Morrisons to stop selling plastic carrier bags
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The supermarket chain will remove 100 million plastic carrier bags from its network over the next year.
Plastic isn't perfect but the real issue, as pointed out above, is people, improper disposal aka littering is the real problem
You are not going to stop people littering.
But you can make their litter be less devastating to the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines
But you can make their litter be less devastating to the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines
Of course there is a good reason, plastic bags don't biodegrade any time soon.
Simply charging people for a plastic bag took billions each year out of circulation.
Simply charging people for a plastic bag took billions each year out of circulation.
I disagree. Plastic IS a problem, particularly when used as a "disposable" product or package. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of years to decompose, some types are not easily recyclable and those that are still seem to end up washed up on a beach somewhere despite our best efforts. I agree littering is a problem, but absolutely so is plastic.
I don't think anyone is suggesting removing plastic entirely from life but single use plastic isn't particularly efficient or environmentally friendly. I think everyone can agree that littering is a problem too but we can still solve the single use plastic problem. If we move to paper bags I don't think anyone is advocating more littering.
Correct Single use plastics are not the problem
Incorrect disposal of ALL plastics is the problem
Incorrect disposal of ALL plastics is the problem
Go watch "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" from 21st March this year, S08E06
You'll change your tune, the plastics industry is very much in favour of blaming the end users of plastic for the waste and the inability to recycle an extraordinary amount of plastic, both in type and physical bulk.
You'll change your tune, the plastics industry is very much in favour of blaming the end users of plastic for the waste and the inability to recycle an extraordinary amount of plastic, both in type and physical bulk.
Said a spokesperson for the Society Of Crude Oil Producers.............
Plastic has now been demonised, for no good reason.
Other than a lot of it does not biodegrade.
So it's been demonised for a good reason.
Other than a lot of it does not biodegrade.
So it's been demonised for a good reason.
Oil-based plastics are VERY, VERY much an environmental problem.
At each and every stage they cause environmental issues. From drilling for the oil, through refining, to the plastic manufacture and formation. Then, finally, disposal.
Cellulose-based plastics are much better in all respects for the Planet. The proportion of plant-based plastics is slowly increasing.
Choose wisely...
At each and every stage they cause environmental issues. From drilling for the oil, through refining, to the plastic manufacture and formation. Then, finally, disposal.
Cellulose-based plastics are much better in all respects for the Planet. The proportion of plant-based plastics is slowly increasing.
Choose wisely...
Jeez lad try and think , 100's of tons going to landfill, not a problem yeah ? Btw what type of bin bags do you use currently , magic fairy type ?
Plastic is a problem. We stayed without plastic 50 years ago. Now it seems everything is wrapped in plastic, without any reason. Yes for some fruit and veg it is fine. No need to wrap the layers of plastic in Amazon boxes.
Sorry, could you expand on "nothing wrong with plastic ... problem is people chucking it in the river or wherever"
Littering aside, where does the even recycled plastic go?
I think you are living in an ignorant dream world.
Littering aside, where does the even recycled plastic go?
I think you are living in an ignorant dream world.
Demonised for no good reason?
1. The customer never invented these non-recyclable bags in the first place.
2. It was easier for big companies to turn a blind eye to the world for profits.
3. No one really knows the scale of these non-recyclable bags and the effect it has on our planet considering how much goes into landfills.
4. Regardless who litters, it will end up in a landfill anyway.
1. The customer never invented these non-recyclable bags in the first place.
2. It was easier for big companies to turn a blind eye to the world for profits.
3. No one really knows the scale of these non-recyclable bags and the effect it has on our planet considering how much goes into landfills.
4. Regardless who litters, it will end up in a landfill anyway.
Yes Squeak you do show the real problem. Ditches on our roadside are full of rubbish that will be around for thousands of years. But the problem is as you say, the idiots throwing the rubbish out of their vehicles.
i used their paper bags and in the rain going home it fell apart.
bring back plastic
bring back plastic
Why down-vote, if they fell apart they fell apart. End-off
Jute makes perfectly good carrier bags.
And its bio-degradable.
Plastic bags were always a bad idea.
And now people have literally trashed the planet with them.
And its bio-degradable.
Plastic bags were always a bad idea.
And now people have literally trashed the planet with them.
People have trashed the planet as you say by rapid population growth with it doubling since 1980, plastic bags are just a sideshow that don't even register.
people can trash this planet very easily without the use of carrier bags.
The paper bags are strong enough but rubish when they get wet and difficult to store without getting torn and creased. Just another step in the wrong direction for Morrsisons, like their now expensive prices.
We’ve not purchased any bag for many months as we use the fabric ones (last for years). We keep them in the car so always to hand.
Fully electric or pedal car is it that's also completely made from fabric ? No offence but I'm just highlighting something.
We've done the same it's amazing how convenient it is to just have shopping bags you use every time you go to the shops. Here's the really crazy thing, if or when they tear, you can sew them back together. I find it funny how people try to make fun as if we are some sort of crazy hippies for doing this rather than just sensible people who don't see the point in buying new bags constantly.
Do you keep the fabric bags in the boot of the Range Rover for the 1/2 drive to the shops?
Most are not using shops any more. Saves all bags. Besides the fabric bags never get used enough to be better than the tips in plastic ones. Needs to be thousands of times apparently. Cotton is very intensive.
Actually do something easy and really effective. Stop using a tumble drier, use renewables, wind and sun, as of old. Save vastly more than reusing a few bags. But needs tiny bit of effort.
Actually do something easy and really effective. Stop using a tumble drier, use renewables, wind and sun, as of old. Save vastly more than reusing a few bags. But needs tiny bit of effort.
How do you get your shopping in to the house if you keep the bags in the car?
i used their paper bags and in the rain going home it fell apart.
bring back plastic
bring back plastic
for 30p it would be nice to reuse yes!
morrisons paper bags have a plastic coating on them
Finally a newsworthy article it is about time the news started to cover the more pressing matters right now.
Your local greengrocer, which no longer exists, used to sell things in paper bags.
Your local greengrocer, which no longer exists, used to sell things in paper bags.
"Finally a newsworthy article it is about time the news started to cover the more pressing matters right now."
The people at the BBC simply do what they are told.
The people at the BBC simply do what they are told.
95% of cars are made of plastic good bye car industry, the people moan but still want cars, credit cards and plastic windows lol
Why down-vote, if they fell apart they fell apart. End-off
Finally a newsworthy article it is about time the news started to cover the more pressing matters right now.
Your local greengrocer, which no longer exists, used to sell things in paper bags.
Your local greengrocer, which no longer exists, used to sell things in paper bags.
Ironic decision, coming, as it does, from a plastic supermarket
Paper bags take 4 times the energy to produce as oppose to plastic bags. How many people will use a paper bag 4 times more than they'd use a plastic one? It's never as black and white as people want you to believe!
Our local supermarket (Independent) uses paper bags - two carrots and they split....
If you want black and white evidence search the net for photos showing the dead seagulls whose stomachs became clogged with broken pieces of plastic eventually starving them to death. Reality is grim.
Energy use is only one aspect.
The environment harm of drilling for oil, refining the oil, manufacturing the plastic (inc. dyes), forming the plastic and finally disposing of it. It is virtually impossible to dispose of oil-based plastic from the environment.
Compared to growing trees, bamboo, hemp, etc to use in creating cellulose-based plastic or paper. And the waste rots back into the soil
The environment harm of drilling for oil, refining the oil, manufacturing the plastic (inc. dyes), forming the plastic and finally disposing of it. It is virtually impossible to dispose of oil-based plastic from the environment.
Compared to growing trees, bamboo, hemp, etc to use in creating cellulose-based plastic or paper. And the waste rots back into the soil
Well the science on this is clear, it's not BS. Of course we need to be more responsible how we use plastic but often the alternative to plastic (like paper bags) cause bigger problems for our world due to CO2 foot print mainly. I am not saying the plastic pollution does not need solving but please let's make sure we are creating bigger problems for us somewhere else.
is it plastic?
not funny
your detergent bottles and anti bac wipes, toilet seat made from plastic shoes, cookers, buckets, clothing, medical impliments, TV, sky box, make up, mobiles all plastic so this nonsense about plastic please leave it alone even wind turbines have plastic.
Paper bags, n back to the 1950s. It worked then and will again and they said plastic was progress.
We just signed up to this company called Loop where you can get all your drinks and household stuff refilled in glass/metal containers and when you use them they come and collect them and clean and refill. Another amazing new idea (from the 1950s).
Paper is hopeless when it rains.
Plastic is fine provided people re-use them, and eventually dispose of them properly.
Plastic is fine provided people re-use them, and eventually dispose of them properly.
I wonder how many face masks they are going to find at the bottom of the oceans and clogging up our rivers from the billions that have just been discarded.
oh god.... let's not look
If idiots can’t be bothered to use waste bins why would you think they’ll go out of their way to Wilko
I'm picking them out of bushes and trees every day on my dog walks, so I imagine there'll be a lot in the rivers too. Shame.
Far too many.
Why are disposable face masks still being sold?
Since this time last year I have built up a stock of 4-layer organic linen masks which get put in the wash after each wearing. Much cheaper in the long term.
Given the social acceptance now of wearing face masks, why are disposable masks still in use. Do these people also wear disposable pants and litter them everywhere?
Why are disposable face masks still being sold?
Since this time last year I have built up a stock of 4-layer organic linen masks which get put in the wash after each wearing. Much cheaper in the long term.
Given the social acceptance now of wearing face masks, why are disposable masks still in use. Do these people also wear disposable pants and litter them everywhere?
It’s a good point, found some discarded in shopping trolleys last week. People just don’t care and will discard them anywhere without a thought.
your detergent bottles and anti bac wipes, toilet seat made from plastic shoes, cookers, buckets, clothing, medical impliments, TV, sky box, make up, mobiles all plastic so this nonsense about plastic please leave it alone even wind turbines have plastic.
Perhaps Morrisons should consider that they are retailers who SELL things, they are not in business to save the planet.
If you want to be environmentally friendly, that's fine, but you need to offer an alternative to plastic bags
If you want to be environmentally friendly, that's fine, but you need to offer an alternative to plastic bags
your detergent bottles and anti bac wipes, toilet seat made from plastic shoes, cookers, buckets, clothing, medical impliments, TV, sky box, make up, mobiles all plastic so this nonsense about plastic please leave it alone even wind turbines have plastic.
You are not going to stop people littering.
But you can make their litter be less devastating to the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines
But you can make their litter be less devastating to the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/whale-dies-88-pounds-plastic-philippines
My supermarket stopped providing plastic bags to put fruit & veg in, and instead give us paper ones. Previously, we would use the plastic ones over and over as freezer bags, before finally recycling them. Now we have to buy plastic freezer bags, as paper ones are useless for that task.
Plastic isn't the whole problem, it's not using them over and over that's the problem
Plastic isn't the whole problem, it's not using them over and over that's the problem
The paper ones are also no good in the fridge - they get damp from condensation. We have to transfer our food from the pper bags into plastic ones when we get home - so twice as much waste.
before finally recycling them.
If by that you mean it was finally added to your household recycling bin, then it ended up being sent in a container to China and dumped there.
Recycling became a euphamism for the government to look as if it had a solution to producing non-biodegradable packaging; which it doesn't.
If by that you mean it was finally added to your household recycling bin, then it ended up being sent in a container to China and dumped there.
Recycling became a euphamism for the government to look as if it had a solution to producing non-biodegradable packaging; which it doesn't.
Hoe did my plastic bag, that I took my shopping home in, ever finish up in a river or on a beach???
Sadly Brass, we are all just pretending. We try (well most dont) our best on things but will fail on others.
Its all about joining up to save whats left of the planet.
But so many (and you cant blame the as its a culture thing) are concerned only in worshipping the money god.
Its all about joining up to save whats left of the planet.
But so many (and you cant blame the as its a culture thing) are concerned only in worshipping the money god.
Morrisons have been backward on this for years.
That's why I shop at Waitrose, the forward looking supermarket
That's why I shop at Waitrose, the forward looking supermarket
In what way are they forward looking?
They might not degrade quickly, but they require much less energy and resource to create.
Paper alternatives were found to use 4x as much and deemed by the EA to be worse than plastic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47027792
The commenter is therefore right. Plastic is the better solution, if handled properly by consumers.
Paper alternatives were found to use 4x as much and deemed by the EA to be worse than plastic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47027792
The commenter is therefore right. Plastic is the better solution, if handled properly by consumers.
Jute makes perfectly good carrier bags.
And its bio-degradable.
Plastic bags were always a bad idea.
And now people have literally trashed the planet with them.
And its bio-degradable.
Plastic bags were always a bad idea.
And now people have literally trashed the planet with them.
Given England is one of the most densely parts of the planet, maybe that conversation should start there.
And of course there is the example shown by the current Tory PM who has 6 children.
He is obviously not worried at all about rapid population growth.
And of course there is the example shown by the current Tory PM who has 6 children.
He is obviously not worried at all about rapid population growth.
Yes and some gas guzzling cars using 2 to 3 times the fuel of smaller engines tend to be cleaner than those smaller engines. Yet the argument would be that the one using more energy or natural resources would be worse for the environment. As I said these things are never black and white like people want you to believe. Materials for plastic are a byproduct from oil and will still need to be used
Perhaps Morrisons should consider that they are retailers who SELL things, they are not in business to save the planet.
If you want to be environmentally friendly, that's fine, but you need to offer an alternative to plastic bags
If you want to be environmentally friendly, that's fine, but you need to offer an alternative to plastic bags
I don't care. None of this stuff will affect the planet whilst anyone reading this is still alive anyway. After that? It's someone else's problem.
Initiatives like these are just virtue signalling by try-hard companies.
Initiatives like these are just virtue signalling by try-hard companies.
So I have had a set of these paper carriers from morrisons and they last. I have used them to do shopping for an elderley couple for over a year now come rain or shine. they havent ripped or got worn and I have really filled them on occasions. I cant see any reason for the majority who go shoppping be car not to use them .
In what way are they forward looking?
From the same article...
"Paper bags require marginally fewer reuses than bags for life to make them more environmentally friendly than single-use plastic bags."
"Paper bags require marginally fewer reuses than bags for life to make them more environmentally friendly than single-use plastic bags."
Yes and some gas guzzling cars using 2 to 3 times the fuel of smaller engines tend to be cleaner than those smaller engines. Yet the argument would be that the one using more energy or natural resources would be worse for the environment. As I said these things are never black and white like people want you to believe. Materials for plastic are a byproduct from oil and will still need to be used
The real problem with litter appears to be young people who are happy to carry their food and drinks to the park, but not take the packaging home. Clearly the message is not getting through to many of the younger generation. Time to increase tax on all drive through coffee and food shops which are a major contributor to rubbish!
Agreed. My local town is awash with empty and half-drunk bottles and cans of soft and fizzy drinks, often chucked just a few yards from a bin. Seems youngsters think it isn't "cool" to use waste bins.
remember it is the young of this country who are the ones always hard done by. They had to put there lives on hold last year and couldn't go out partying.
The real problem is young people.
Please add the crime and we will make them responsible for it.
Please add the crime and we will make them responsible for it.
And yet we’re told that the younger ones are more environmentally aware. I’ve yet to believe that.
I don't think it's just young people - although they may seem like a convenient scapegoat all the time - it's all age groups who litter. Increasing the tax on drive through and coffee shops will not help. They'll still buy, they'll still litter. Better to force the fast food outlets to use biodegradable containers. People may still litter but at least it will break down.
The real problem is not age-blameable - time to ban the sale of all non-disposable/recyle-able food and drink containers I think.
The responsibility should rest with the consumers, not just the retailers.
Certain people of all ages may need re-educating, and sulk over their loss of 'convenience', but no doubt in time they could get used to it ...
The responsibility should rest with the consumers, not just the retailers.
Certain people of all ages may need re-educating, and sulk over their loss of 'convenience', but no doubt in time they could get used to it ...
Yeah this statement is an absolute disgrace and you should hang your head in shame. You want to blame the younger generation for everything that the majority of your generation to blame for. Like ohhhh I don't know ( POLLUTION ) . Get down off of your high horse .
Oh shut up Victor Meldrew! Young people this, young people that, blah blah blah...
Some people are too lazy to even walk a few yards to place their litter in a bin. They just leave it wherever they've been.
It's not just the younger generation I've witnessed old people not using litter bins
Drivel.
Nothing to do with age, more to do with attitude.
I've seen plenty of middle-aged/older people chuck stuff out of their car windows/on the ground.
It's down to laziness and slobbery, not age.
And let's face it, the tired old cries of "it's the yoof wot dun it" applied to us when we were growing up too in the 60s/70s/80s - our parents thought we were lazy litterers as well.
Nothing to do with age, more to do with attitude.
I've seen plenty of middle-aged/older people chuck stuff out of their car windows/on the ground.
It's down to laziness and slobbery, not age.
And let's face it, the tired old cries of "it's the yoof wot dun it" applied to us when we were growing up too in the 60s/70s/80s - our parents thought we were lazy litterers as well.
Demonising young people is so irrelevant. It's people of all ages and needs to be addressed as such
My online shop yesterday no longer in bags so it took twice as long to unload individual items from the delivery crates. Happy to pay for paper bags but can’t see an option for this on home delivery site. Help please Morrison’s?
...could you say to yourself "convenience is overrated" & use the time you're unloading shopping to think of something productive?
I disagree. Plastic IS a problem, particularly when used as a "disposable" product or package. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of years to decompose, some types are not easily recyclable and those that are still seem to end up washed up on a beach somewhere despite our best efforts. I agree littering is a problem, but absolutely so is plastic.
"Plastic IS a problem"
I presume you don't know anyone with contact lenses, then?
I presume you don't know anyone with contact lenses, then?
I don't care. None of this stuff will affect the planet whilst anyone reading this is still alive anyway. After that? It's someone else's problem.
Initiatives like these are just virtue signalling by try-hard companies.
Initiatives like these are just virtue signalling by try-hard companies.
Plastic bags are the life blood of disposable nappy generation.
Really? I didn't know that.
How about reusable cotton nappies? We used them and they were brilliant and much easier than we feared. Disposable nappies create tons of nasty waste.
Brilliant initiative by Morrisons. Fully supported given the scourge of plastic waste
Given England is one of the most densely parts of the planet, maybe that conversation should start there.
And of course there is the example shown by the current Tory PM who has 6 children.
He is obviously not worried at all about rapid population growth.
And of course there is the example shown by the current Tory PM who has 6 children.
He is obviously not worried at all about rapid population growth.
Plastic bags really aren't the problem but if the virtue signalling middle classes think they are saving the planet by switching to paper based ones then so be it.
...interested to know your thoughts on what really is the problem... & also how are shoppers going to shop without some kind of bag?
Surely the last year as demonstrated that the most important factor is keeping healthy is hygiene. How can it be hygienic for people to keep taking their old bags back to the supermarket and having them sat in the trolley that other people then have to use. No point cleaning our hands if we then put how food into dirty bags.
How silly.
Hmm Morrisons. The same Morrisons which has been busy selling off sizeable chunks of all it's car parks around here for Macdonald's drive-throughs with a resultant huge plastic littering problem.
The only plastic in McDonald's packaging are drinks lids. Straws are paper. The bags are paper. The wrappers are paper. The fries box is cardboard. Napkins are paper.
Never mind you got your upvotes anyway.
Never mind you got your upvotes anyway.
I get it but we can dislike something they do whilst also agreeing with something positive. Because they sell land to mcdonalds (who really should be responsible for their own litter) doesnt mean they should be plastic and littering champions.
None of my bags ever turned up in the sea, they were recycled as rubbish bags. Now I have to buy rubbish bags. What was the point?
It's not you, Andy....when the planet's struggling to cope with approaching 8 Billion humans, it's the behaviour of the majority that matters...and sadly most of us are selfish, shortsighted and ill-educated shitbags.
Else how would you explain the park in Leeds, the roadside verges covered in a blizzard of plastic, or the great Pacific garbage patch?
Else how would you explain the park in Leeds, the roadside verges covered in a blizzard of plastic, or the great Pacific garbage patch?
My supermarket stopped providing plastic bags to put fruit & veg in, and instead give us paper ones. Previously, we would use the plastic ones over and over as freezer bags, before finally recycling them. Now we have to buy plastic freezer bags, as paper ones are useless for that task.
Plastic isn't the whole problem, it's not using them over and over that's the problem
Plastic isn't the whole problem, it's not using them over and over that's the problem
Tupperware is the answer (to so many problems) & it can be put in the dishwasher without melting for a hygienic clean using less water than a bowl. What's not to love?
You've got too much time and plastic bags by the sound of it.
I never leave good in a plastic bag in the fridge - it goes all sweaty, especially vegetables. I just take them out of the bag altogether and put them in loose.
Surely the last year as demonstrated that the most important factor is keeping healthy is hygiene. How can it be hygienic for people to keep taking their old bags back to the supermarket and having them sat in the trolley that other people then have to use. No point cleaning our hands if we then put how food into dirty bags.
Excellent news. I have been putting them in the black bin up to now.
I've never seen a Wilko in Cornwall. Is it American? Like Sgt Bilko? Am I in the wrong county? Or country, even?
You can recycle plastic bags too but that’s beyond some people.
Instead of flat-packing all of the cardboard outer boxes that bring products into supermarkets from suppliers, they could have an area where you can help yourself to these.
They do.
Really who is still using supermarkets? Actually going out to shops. Times are or have changed. Not been in a high street shop or supermarket in a decade. Not needed any plastic bags either as a result! Have to scrounge them where I can for re uses.
?????? well done Morrison’s !
How silly.
Supermarkets also need to address the issue of products being wrapped in plastic during transportation and storage. When staff are stacking items on shelves, they often have to remove large quantities of plastic. Surely other materials could be used?
Instead of flat-packing all of the cardboard outer boxes that bring products into supermarkets from suppliers, they could have an area where you can help yourself to these.
What is the environmental impact of using paper bags? It may give us a warm feeling inside and stop plastic going into the ocean, but producing paper packaging is heavily resource reliant on trees, energy and water. I understand that plastic bags were invented to address the environmental impact of paper packaging on forests. Reuse, recycle and control waste is the solution - not more production
Environmentalism is cyclical.
I grew up in the 90s and I distinctly remember that cardboard was the devil at one stage. It was causing mass deforestation and we need to make sure we recycle it and stop cutting all these trees down. A lot of cardboard packaging was switched to plastic as a result.
Now we're going backwards...
I grew up in the 90s and I distinctly remember that cardboard was the devil at one stage. It was causing mass deforestation and we need to make sure we recycle it and stop cutting all these trees down. A lot of cardboard packaging was switched to plastic as a result.
Now we're going backwards...
Most of the paper products come from pine etc specifically planted for pulp products. These are quick growing and very sustainable. Paper itself is recyclable so at least banning plastic bags has a point, paper at least degrades if it ends up out of the waste cycle, plastic takes in some cases hundreds of years.
Well done Morrisons, sadly we cannot trust people to do the right thing anymore and too many plastic products end up dumped, littering our roadsides and beaches.
It's hard to figure out the British, one minute we have demonstrations by hoards of young people to help the environment, the next you have parks festooned in garbage mainly down to you people again. Dumb Britain !!
It's hard to figure out the British, one minute we have demonstrations by hoards of young people to help the environment, the next you have parks festooned in garbage mainly down to you people again. Dumb Britain !!
You can move, einstein.
too many plastic products end up dumped, littering our roadsides and beaches.
That is nothing compared to the mass of plastic in the oceans.
That is nothing compared to the mass of plastic in the oceans.
You say 'hard to figure out the British' as though they are one single group and not fractionated into dozens of subtypes of person. You really think the same people are dumping rubbish in parks and also being environmentalists?
What is the environmental impact of using paper bags? It may give us a warm feeling inside and stop plastic going into the ocean, but producing paper packaging is heavily resource reliant on trees, energy and water. I understand that plastic bags were invented to address the environmental impact of paper packaging on forests. Reuse, recycle and control waste is the solution - not more production
Environmentalism is cyclical.
I grew up in the 90s and I distinctly remember that cardboard was the devil at one stage. It was causing mass deforestation and we need to make sure we recycle it and stop cutting all these trees down. A lot of cardboard packaging was switched to plastic as a result.
Now we're going backwards...
I grew up in the 90s and I distinctly remember that cardboard was the devil at one stage. It was causing mass deforestation and we need to make sure we recycle it and stop cutting all these trees down. A lot of cardboard packaging was switched to plastic as a result.
Now we're going backwards...
Yep, that's the problem. The whole damn human race is going backwards.
In what way are they forward looking?
Thankyou for listening to your customers.
Keep on eliminating plastic & waste please.
Keep on eliminating plastic & waste please.
Good for Morrisons....but why are our legislators BEHIND, not AHEAD OF, businesses??
The Govt's own Climate Change Committee is repeatedly saying that Govt is not moving far or fast enough in proportion to the scale of the developing crisis.
We would get more visionary leadership from Prince Charles - once derided for his views but who has been proven to be right - AND 30yr ahead as well.
The Govt's own Climate Change Committee is repeatedly saying that Govt is not moving far or fast enough in proportion to the scale of the developing crisis.
We would get more visionary leadership from Prince Charles - once derided for his views but who has been proven to be right - AND 30yr ahead as well.
Why is the BBC not reporting on the return to violence in NI because of the madness that is Brexit John Major and Tony Blair warned leavers what the consequences of a leave vote would be to NI the Good Friday Agreement and peace for 20 years
Johnson and co did not care and went ahead with a deal that has a border in the Irish sea Removed
Johnson and co did not care and went ahead with a deal that has a border in the Irish sea Removed
but thats not the hot topic. Tell us what do you prefer, Paper or plastic bags?
They announced this last year. From the time: "Morrisons said there was evidence bags for life are being used once before being binned."
However studies show that a paper bag requires four times as much energy to produce and has to be reused just one time fewer than a plastic bag to equal out.
Given that the initial claim is people using bags once then binning them, it solves nothing.
However studies show that a paper bag requires four times as much energy to produce and has to be reused just one time fewer than a plastic bag to equal out.
Given that the initial claim is people using bags once then binning them, it solves nothing.
I thought that a study had show that alternatives to plastic bags were far worse for the environment.
Its not plastic that is the problem it’s inadequate recycling and allowing manufacturers to use plastics that cannot be recycled.
All food should be in one type of recyclable plastic.
Then householder would not need a degree in material technology when deciding which bin to use.
Its not plastic that is the problem it’s inadequate recycling and allowing manufacturers to use plastics that cannot be recycled.
All food should be in one type of recyclable plastic.
Then householder would not need a degree in material technology when deciding which bin to use.
Plus it's educating and encouraging people to re-use the bags they already have. It's amazing how much , with care, you can re-use a plastic bag or bag for life!
The real problem is this, there is a seems to be a generation of people maybe up to middle age when they have finished with something, they believe its no longer their property. I remember 20 years ago a young chap in front of me dropped a fag packet on the pavement, I said excuse me is this yours? He said, they pay people to clear stuff up.
There's already enough bags in the world to last a life time. We don't need any more. Re-use ones you already have. They will last forever.
Stopped using Morrisons because they charge so much for plastic bags 'for life', when all i need is a cheap one. Trouble is I and many others have to call in unexpectedly and dont have one with me. Have walked out as a matter of principle with the shopping on the till a couple of times when faced with a daft cost for a bag for life. Just taking the mick!
Sounds like someone needs to address your expectations for shopping and then we will all be better off. If you don't have a bag - don't go shopping
Just more pressure on the overworked underpaid retail staff, well done you.
People like you should be charged double for a bag.
Selfish idiots like you are responsible for a lot of the ills we suffer today. Buy two or three cloths bags that you can fold up and put in a briefcase, plan your shopping, and support small local shops like butchers bakers and greengrocers rather than the Big Four.
Don't be a muppet! Removed
Don't be a muppet! Removed
The real problem with litter appears to be young people who are happy to carry their food and drinks to the park, but not take the packaging home. Clearly the message is not getting through to many of the younger generation. Time to increase tax on all drive through coffee and food shops which are a major contributor to rubbish!
And not a few “olds” too - It’s definitely not just the kids so why not stop demonizing them - I assume you’re not a “kid”?!
Plastic bags really aren't the problem but if the virtue signalling middle classes think they are saving the planet by switching to paper based ones then so be it.
They already have DOZENS of bags. I guarantee it. And you can pay for a new bag for life at any time.
Also, consider this, how about bringing a rucksack or gym bag to the supermarket? I can easily fit a week's food for 2 in a medium sized backpack/rucksack. A big gym bag can easily fit 4 peoples' worth.
Also, consider this, how about bringing a rucksack or gym bag to the supermarket? I can easily fit a week's food for 2 in a medium sized backpack/rucksack. A big gym bag can easily fit 4 peoples' worth.
It's not you, Andy....when the planet's struggling to cope with approaching 8 Billion humans, it's the behaviour of the majority that matters...and sadly most of us are selfish, shortsighted and ill-educated shitbags.
Else how would you explain the park in Leeds, the roadside verges covered in a blizzard of plastic, or the great Pacific garbage patch?
Else how would you explain the park in Leeds, the roadside verges covered in a blizzard of plastic, or the great Pacific garbage patch?
The best environmental solution is to stop supermarkets and other shops selling or providing bags. Only sell them through authorised bag shops (not on line). Then the material used to make them becomes irrelevant as people will make doubly sure they keep their bags and reuse them
Great. Now get to work on minimising the use of plastic packaging and bottles.
Plastic bottles have carbon footprint 180x that of tap water :(
Who knew?!
Who knew?!
Why is the BBC not reporting on the return to violence in NI because of the madness that is Brexit John Major and Tony Blair warned leavers what the consequences of a leave vote would be to NI the Good Friday Agreement and peace for 20 years
Johnson and co did not care and went ahead with a deal that has a border in the Irish sea Removed
Johnson and co did not care and went ahead with a deal that has a border in the Irish sea Removed
My online shop yesterday no longer in bags so it took twice as long to unload individual items from the delivery crates. Happy to pay for paper bags but can’t see an option for this on home delivery site. Help please Morrison’s?
Of course there is a good reason, plastic bags don't biodegrade any time soon.
Simply charging people for a plastic bag took billions each year out of circulation.
Simply charging people for a plastic bag took billions each year out of circulation.
They might not degrade quickly, but they require much less energy and resource to create.
Paper alternatives were found to use 4x as much and deemed by the EA to be worse than plastic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47027792
The commenter is therefore right. Plastic is the better solution, if handled properly by consumers.
Paper alternatives were found to use 4x as much and deemed by the EA to be worse than plastic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47027792
The commenter is therefore right. Plastic is the better solution, if handled properly by consumers.
Stopped using Morrisons because they charge so much for plastic bags 'for life', when all i need is a cheap one. Trouble is I and many others have to call in unexpectedly and dont have one with me. Have walked out as a matter of principle with the shopping on the till a couple of times when faced with a daft cost for a bag for life. Just taking the mick!
If you don't have anything intelligent to say, keep quiet. How about that? Sometimes you need to get some things unexpectedly, surely thats obvious even to you? ps....in the context of your sentence, using 'someone' , it should be 'their' expectations not 'your'. Use 'you in place of someone and it would work, dropping the 's' of needs obviously.
Can I can still buy a bin bag to put my shopping in?
Stopped using Morrisons because they charge so much for plastic bags 'for life', when all i need is a cheap one. Trouble is I and many others have to call in unexpectedly and dont have one with me. Have walked out as a matter of principle with the shopping on the till a couple of times when faced with a daft cost for a bag for life. Just taking the mick!
Morrisons staff are very well paid and based on the ones I see, you can not accuse them of being overworked thats for sure. They are paid a fair market rate for basic manual work.
It's not difficult to take your own bags - why do people think this is a problem? Laziness I suspect.......
Hmm Morrisons. The same Morrisons which has been busy selling off sizeable chunks of all it's car parks around here for Macdonald's drive-throughs with a resultant huge plastic littering problem.
The boxes that hold the burgers are expanded polystyrene that does not biodegrade......
And the deforestation to rear cheap cattle for burgers?
What you can't see can't hurt you.
What you can't see can't hurt you.
Yea McDonalds don't pollute at all. Really green company. Producing thousands of tonnes of paper packaging is hardly eco-friendly. Don't even start on the actual food they sell. That company is a blight on our planet. We will see in time.
Stopped using Morrisons because they charge so much for plastic bags 'for life', when all i need is a cheap one. Trouble is I and many others have to call in unexpectedly and dont have one with me. Have walked out as a matter of principle with the shopping on the till a couple of times when faced with a daft cost for a bag for life. Just taking the mick!
Yeah, that will work. Sir, you bag is double the price because ..... what exactly?What they need to do is focus on customer needs & wants, then they'd perhaps be more successful.
In protest at the amount of unnecessary plastic packaging on Easter eggs, I'm not buying any more for a year.
Same joke same time next year?
Well it's a good start for Morrisons but it is irritating the amount of packaging on their products in-store; bananas and cabbages covered in plastic, 4 packs of beans in plastic, bottled water, you guessed it, in plastic.
I'm sure that all of the above can be moved from their shelves to my car without swathes of the stuff going to landfill!
C+. More effort required!
I'm sure that all of the above can be moved from their shelves to my car without swathes of the stuff going to landfill!
C+. More effort required!
Son't buy so much from supermarkets, use proper shops like butchers, greengrocers and bakers: they're much more deserving of our hard earned cash.
What is the environmental impact of using paper bags? It may give us a warm feeling inside and stop plastic going into the ocean, but producing paper packaging is heavily resource reliant on trees, energy and water. I understand that plastic bags were invented to address the environmental impact of paper packaging on forests. Reuse, recycle and control waste is the solution - not more production
Most of the paper products come from pine etc specifically planted for pulp products. These are quick growing and very sustainable. Paper itself is recyclable so at least banning plastic bags has a point, paper at least degrades if it ends up out of the waste cycle, plastic takes in some cases hundreds of years.
There's nothing wrong with plastic, it's a very good material.
But the problem is people chucking it in the river or wherever.
Plastic really isn't the problem - our littering is the real issue.