Mobile phones should be banned in schools - Gavin Williamson
07/04/2021 | news | technology | 1,727
Phones should not be used or seen during the school day, the education secretary says.
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07/04/2021 14:00:15 745 98
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Absolutely they should be banned. They are a huge distraction and a major bullying tool.
In which case - Priti Patel shouldn't be allowed a smartphone. Removed
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Bob
07/04/2021 14:32:30 23 58
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If I am being bullied by text message or social media I can block them.
If I am being bullied in the real world, I can't.
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07/04/2021 14:43:16 40 1
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Quite agree. They should also ban their hand held use while driving. Oh wait!
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07/04/2021 14:52:19 21 4
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No reason for any child under to have a smart phone. If they need a phone for emergencies a £ 10 pay as you go mobile regularly topped up by parents is more than sufficient.
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07/04/2021 15:44:11 1 1
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I think we should ban this commenter, look at the thread. Their nonsense opinion has caused untold distraction and bullying!
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07/04/2021 14:01:56 80 10
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Totally agree - whats the point if you're concentrating on a mobile phone
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07/04/2021 15:48:59 18 7
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Because their is a thing called a rule where they have to be 'Switched off and in your bag'. They are banned anyways.
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kh
07/04/2021 16:00:26 3 1
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Teach kids to use them responsibly like in the workplace?
07/04/2021 16:30:41 0 1
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https://i.redd.it/ztaglf1d84q61.jpg

NYUUURRRHH!!!

They're already banned you clown.
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07/04/2021 14:02:20 54 6
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Agree, they should be allowed on outside of the school premises only.
07/04/2021 17:25:49 2 30
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What if a teacher has just put his hand up her skirt? Should they wait until home time to report? Mobile phone is a lot easier to do than approach another member of staff.

Besides, this has been in effect since mobiles came out. There probably isn't 1 school that allows mobile phones in class so what is the problem here?

Clueless Gavin fishing out of the "already in place" pond again.
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07/04/2021 14:02:24 29 11
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Yes please to banning phones in schools.

Can we also ban Frank Spencer lookalike Williamson ? He's totally out of his depth.
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07/04/2021 14:03:11 400 33
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Why has it taken so long for him finally to say this? It's blindingly obvious to a half witted baboon that letting kids carry their mobiles around at school is not good for anyone. They are constantly on it when they get chance. The school should have numbers to call in case of emergency. There should be no NEED whatsoever for kids to have mobiles.
This baboon says schools only want a ban so they can avoid the obvious backlash of why they have not stopped bullying. Oh and to hide teacher incompetence. Removed
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07/04/2021 14:23:41 35 16
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Most schools don't allow them in class anyway.... What Gavin is doing here is stating something obviously popular but technically redundant just to make themselves look relevant (and maybe make us forget how dire he has been in post)
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07/04/2021 14:42:28 10 20
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In my experience teachers have developed many techniques to keep phone use to appropriate times.

If teachers cannot stop their pupils from using a phone when it's not appropriate during a lesson, perhaps that teacher needs to find a new career.

So the half witted baboon may not be right after all!
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07/04/2021 15:13:19 5 4
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Wilkeynes, isn't it blindingly obvious to the Education Secretary that most secondary schools have already done this? Why the "talking down to the youngsters" always?
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07/04/2021 15:14:07 2 6
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Mobile connected devices are here to stay. They open up a whole new world of opportunity and should be fully integrated into use within school. It's a wonder this government allow children to read books just in case they see through the short comings of their policies. Gove previously kicked out a lot of classical literature.
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07/04/2021 15:25:23 1 0
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Give him a break, hes learning on the job, no experience in eductation previous.
Like them all
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ET
07/04/2021 15:31:11 1 0
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Harsh. Clearly it hasn’t been obvious to many for a long long time.
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07/04/2021 15:45:06 2 0
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"It's blindingly obvious to a half witted baboon" - there is a flaw in that argument when it comes to Williamson.....
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07/04/2021 15:45:28 2 2
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Agree that phones should be banned during the school day including break time. However, kids need to have phones on them to contact parents and for safety before and after school
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07/04/2021 15:52:04 0 0
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That's not his job! Get organised with the things for which you are responsible. Please. We can't have another exams fiasco like last year.
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07/04/2021 16:02:27 1 2
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Funny how you don't refer to the Government at the time when mobiles came out......just kick/insult the bloke who is actually looking to do something about it.

You might want to look in the mirror when throwing around your 'half-witted baboon' comments.
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07/04/2021 16:00:26 2 0
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Because Gavin Williamson couldn't find his own bottom in a dark room.
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07/04/2021 16:14:27 2 0
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Constantly on it, and why wouldn't they be?: I do not know how many parents I've seen walking, pushing prams, or with older kids - paying them no attention at all and the adult glued to their mobile phone

It is the norm of their upbringing; it has become an obsession, - like father, like son etc applies

"Religion is the opiate of the masses", then it was TV, now mobile phones & trolling people
07/04/2021 16:42:15 1 0
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Don't insult half-witted baboons!!
RLB
07/04/2021 16:51:49 1 2
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My son's phone is connected to his diabetes monitor on his arm and gives him constant blood readings. So how is he meant to monitor his levels with no phone. So there is a need so times.
07/04/2021 17:06:33 1 1
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You are right, nice to see you mentioned the Primeminister 'a half witted baboon'. They live in colonies so is Gavin what's his name one too?
07/04/2021 18:32:08 0 1
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Phones can be useful. Gavin can't be bothered to tackle the problem, which is lack of education in how to use them properly
08/04/2021 09:04:15 0 0
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You say they are not needed - fine, your opinion. But when happens when a girl is gang raped by a group of sex predators? No phone for help then.
08/04/2021 10:49:50 0 0
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Because phone are not allowed out in most schools anyway. Because this is an attempt at distracting you from his actual incompetence.
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07/04/2021 14:03:40 548 38
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It shouldn't even be a discussion. How can kids learn when they are distracted by social media like Facebook and TikTok etc?
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07/04/2021 14:32:53 359 15
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Social media has been an atomic bomb of mental distress for a lot of young children, ridding them of these horrible pressures within school time would be incredible and should have been done years ago.
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07/04/2021 14:48:43 16 11
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But what will the gormless thickos do then? Poor wee souls will be bored brainless.
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07/04/2021 15:03:40 7 30
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far better to put a school app on the phone that prevents the use of social media in lessons.. the comments on here lead me to believe that children are still being taught using text books ( instead of internet) .. hand writing their work out.(never learning to touch type ) wasting hours copying out what a teacher is writing on a board. (instead of taking a photo using banned phone) -I hope not
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07/04/2021 15:39:23 8 18
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The irony is most mobiles state that Gavin Williamson needs to be banned from schools/education; another dimwit who does more harm than mobiles.

Though I don't see a need for children to access mobiles during the school day but should have access to them before & after school. Maybe access also allowed in the main break each day.
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07/04/2021 15:58:51 8 12
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Only allow VERY basic phones (not smart phones) that will just do a text or a phone call or take a low resolution picture. That should be all they need to get home.
07/04/2021 18:23:33 1 5
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The issue is caused by children not being taught how to use their phones constructively. Phones aren't a distraction when used properly. What needs to happen is they need to be incorporated into learning properly.
07/04/2021 22:37:09 4 0
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b9dzb6

^^^ Even adults are effected. Even you. You feel something when your phone goes off, your brain is reacting. Even ignoring the fact you've received a text, you'll be thinking of it.

I think its awful full stop for kids. But adults are majorly affected also.
Food for thought... great episode too.
08/04/2021 10:48:57 0 1
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Distracted, or inspired? Have you been on these platforms? Do you understand what kids are doing on them? Probably not. If they were picking up the encyclopedia every 2 mins you wouldn't be bothered.... guess what the internet is.
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07/04/2021 14:03:54 29 15
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Absolutely me I would ban then anywhere in public.
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07/04/2021 14:28:02 2 6
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Nope.
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07/04/2021 14:04:07 151 15
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I can agree with this. They don't bring any benefit to learning. Modern mobile phones are a social luxury (despite how relatively cheap the lesser models are). Children can focus on their social status in their own time. The bigger challenge is getting feckless parents to work with schools on this.
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Leo
07/04/2021 14:34:05 40 79
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Rather than a "social luxury" mobile phones are rapidly becoming an essential tool of our increasingly connected society. What I would agree with is that changing phones frequently for the latest model is nothing more than faddism, but mobile phones in general are useful tools in modern society.
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07/04/2021 15:56:06 12 0
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"an essential tool of our increasingly connected society". You don't need a phone to "connect" to the teacher standing in front of you. All you need to do is look up: is that so hard for a schoolkid these days?
07/04/2021 17:46:52 2 0
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The same feckless parents, who as pupils, needed to be surgically removed from their own mobile phones 20 years ago
07/04/2021 18:06:29 1 0
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"feckless parents"

Makes you wonder how having no phone benefitted their learning does it not?

And social status? I mean the very existence of education was only ever been about social status to be "learned" and has been ever since.

The "geeks" were bullied during school. The "geeks" now bully the thickos who did not take school seriously in the real world outside school.
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07/04/2021 14:04:07 13 5
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When I went to school we has no mobiles, computers and no hope. I loved my school and never missed a day.
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07/04/2021 14:08:15 13 0
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Same for me except for the hope bit.

There was lots of hope.
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07/04/2021 14:00:15 745 98
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Absolutely they should be banned. They are a huge distraction and a major bullying tool.
In which case - Priti Patel shouldn't be allowed a smartphone. Removed
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07/04/2021 14:22:35 19 30
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Brilliant!
I wouldn't trust her with a sharp pencil let alone a smart phone.
Certainly shouldn't be allowed a passport in case she tries implementing a treasonous* personal foreign policy... again...

*Allegedly, in my opinion, etc etc.
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Labour Party investigated by the ECHR for anti semitism....just sayin. Removed
Racist much? Removed
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07/04/2021 14:44:40 25 30
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Excellent comment, and heartening to see the Tory HQ trolls on here trying to vote it down.
Priti Patel shouldn't be allowed ... period Removed
And why not she has not been found wanting as to your inferred post, but mediators like to let the loony left have a pop at the government and will not remove this and others, so my question is who would You like to see do the job, just the unions maybe? Removed
Well done Champaign socialist - you fly that red flag. Removed
She shouldn't be in this country the disgusting way she treats immigration.
In my humble opinion its a shame what she has done to foreigners didnt happen to her parents...
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07/04/2021 15:13:18 6 1
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We are not talking about Pritt Patel she is nothing to do with this story. We are talking about kids in schools unable to learn because of tat on their phone.
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07/04/2021 15:13:13 2 4
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She shouldnt be allowed to be an MP, fact .
Neither should Meghan Markle Removed
And Dianne Abbott should not be allowed to teach maths! Removed
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07/04/2021 15:23:30 1 1
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Shes got 7, all cost £10,000 each off her neighbour
Grow up troll Removed
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07/04/2021 15:32:36 2 3
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Keep the mobile phones and ban Williamson,Johnson and Patel,those responsible for the A level fiasco and child poverty
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07/04/2021 14:05:06 35 8
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They need to ensure all schools have enough computers for all pupils to use when required. No need at all for mobiles and they should be collected at the start of the school day, stored safely, then returned at home time.
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:16:33 32 69
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Schools DO NOT NEED computers,

they NEED teachers who can TEACH and BOOKS.

I did not have access to a computer till I when to University.
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ajc
07/04/2021 15:29:30 3 0
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You have clearly never worked in a school.
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07/04/2021 16:13:09 0 2
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You've obviously not thought this through. !600 students in my last school. Safe storage, collection and return might leave limited teaching time. How about taking responsibility for at least £8000 + worth of delicate electronic equipment?
07/04/2021 16:27:18 1 1
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And who, pray, would have the job of doing this?
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07/04/2021 14:05:32 115 10
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I'm surprised they are not already.. showing my age.
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07/04/2021 14:23:49 106 29
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A lot of schools already have bans. He's making it sound like he's leading, but isn't.
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07/04/2021 14:24:13 12 0
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They're not. This is just a dead cat distraction
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07/04/2021 16:00:13 3 1
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Doubt there's a school in the country that allows students to use their phones during the school day.
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07/04/2021 16:26:34 0 2
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Have you shagged your flag recently?
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THD
07/04/2021 14:06:04 24 14
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Phones should be off in class but many pupils use their phones to access necessary apps after school such as for the bus home and homework submission. Just because something didn’t exist in 1900 doesn’t mean it’s evil.
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07/04/2021 14:11:03 13 1
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Yes indeed! Try finding a working payphone nowadays
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07/04/2021 14:32:09 0 0
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Don't remember reading anything about once school is over for the day as for homework that is exactly what it is
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07/04/2021 14:03:11 400 33
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Why has it taken so long for him finally to say this? It's blindingly obvious to a half witted baboon that letting kids carry their mobiles around at school is not good for anyone. They are constantly on it when they get chance. The school should have numbers to call in case of emergency. There should be no NEED whatsoever for kids to have mobiles.
This baboon says schools only want a ban so they can avoid the obvious backlash of why they have not stopped bullying. Oh and to hide teacher incompetence. Removed
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07/04/2021 14:25:03 6 3
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You got a link to the bit in the PGCE where it says teachers are responsible for mobile phones?
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07/04/2021 14:32:26 33 4
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So you think all teachers are incompetent? I would suggest you get off your ars*s and start teaching then instead of just moaning about them.
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07/04/2021 14:39:04 5 10
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Salty gammon is always delicious.
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07/04/2021 14:46:27 11 5
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I hope you have evidence of teacher incompetence, otherwise I might feel offended at the way you presume to know what we're doing and if we're good at it or not.
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07/04/2021 15:02:07 12 5
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"to hide teacher incompetence."

Of course, you could do the job -so- much better, couldn't you?
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07/04/2021 14:06:25 15 22
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Dear God, how did he end up in charge of education. All that's happened in the last year and this is his input.
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07/04/2021 14:32:21 2 1
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He's a good little Tory, and he knows where the bodies are buried, and he has previous for telling tales out of school. Keep your friends close and all that.
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07/04/2021 14:07:45 19 7
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This is the correct thing to do as long as it also applies to staff and teachers are supported by the parents and teachers must be allowed to check that they are switched off full stop if anyone found to be using one should have it confiscated until school out for the day
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07/04/2021 14:04:07 13 5
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When I went to school we has no mobiles, computers and no hope. I loved my school and never missed a day.
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07/04/2021 14:08:15 13 0
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Same for me except for the hope bit.

There was lots of hope.
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07/04/2021 14:08:26 310 14
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100%, weird it took this long for ministers to realise this..

1. They are a distraction.

2. They are a frequent cause of problems between pupils (bullying, sexting etc)

3. They make pupils a target for crime. Teens with £1000 pound phones are too tempting a target for muggers..

Just ban them..
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07/04/2021 14:36:16 143 8
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Smartphones with internet access should have been for over 18 year olds because of the lack of censorship to adult content, de-regulated advertising and stranger danger. But they weren't so parents and teachers can only manage the situation the best they can. I have been through the angst and managed to nip cyber bullying and inappropriate on-line conversations in the bud. Keep your eyes peeled.
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07/04/2021 15:15:41 10 0
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Weird that it has taken you and Gavin Williamson this long to realise that they are already banned or locked-up during the day in most secondary schools already.
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07/04/2021 15:27:20 13 1
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"100%, weird it took this long for ministers to realise this.."

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Many workplaces have far more strict policies on the use of personal mobile phones than a typical school.

Distraction and bullying aside, the sense of entitlement to use a smart phone throughout the day makes school leavers that bit more unemployable.
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07/04/2021 15:44:13 5 4
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They are banned anyways. Plus... It's up to the parents if they want their kids having valuable phones. Just remember, it's not just us kids need to be told, it's parents too. It's the parents job to discipline them are make sure their revising.
Plus, Bullying and sexting on smart devises are stereotyped and it does not happen a lot as you think, yes it does still happen but not a lot.
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07/04/2021 16:20:09 1 1
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Going to ban expensive shoes becaue they are attractive to muggers?
07/04/2021 17:17:32 2 0
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£1000 pound phones ....eh???
07/04/2021 19:49:45 0 0
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Any parent that spends £1,000 on a phone for their child to take to school is a mug.
07/04/2021 22:39:47 0 0
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"100%, weird it took this long for ministers to realise this"

They were all on their phones...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/25/what-were-labour-mps-doing-on-their-mobile-phones-in-parliament
08/04/2021 10:50:34 0 0
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They are mostly banned.... this man isn't God he's about a decade behind.
08/04/2021 12:16:14 0 0
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Abusus non tollit usum
- Abuse of a right does not invalidate its use
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07/04/2021 14:08:31 71 2
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Can't remember where I saw it written but I remember a teacher did an experiment, where every time a student got a push notification they had to put it on the board.

In the 50 minute class they were more than 30 snap chats, 40 Facebook notifications and several others...

This is a good idea in my book.
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07/04/2021 14:15:45 21 8
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Book? What's that??? :)
07/04/2021 17:28:59 3 0
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I find it hard to believe there were “Only” 30 and 40.
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07/04/2021 14:08:49 3 31
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Luddites. Embrace technology, don't fear it.
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07/04/2021 14:12:42 15 1
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I agree, embrace technology - but don't encourage addiction to it... Especially at the expense of learning and social interaction.
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07/04/2021 14:08:55 14 7
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Williamson is behind the times yet again and shows he is just not up to the job.

My daughter's current and former Secondary Schools have banned mobile phones in class/on premises for years.
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07/04/2021 14:11:55 7 5
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one school in thousands.....who's behind the times?
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07/04/2021 14:09:34 62 4
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In school phone off, unless an emergency......
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07/04/2021 14:50:46 61 8
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NO in an emergency they should be talking and getting help from staff.
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07/04/2021 14:10:45 20 3
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Well this one will certainly get all the parents jumping on the safety aspect of when their child walks home alone or with schoolmates.

However, I agree with Williamson, the subjective WhatsApp type bullying and messaging and whether you are in the group or not invited would benefit from no mobiles in school, they really serve no purpose during the tuition periods.
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07/04/2021 14:42:42 5 9
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2021 wants to say hello...we’re over here waiting for you.
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07/04/2021 14:10:49 6 7
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We need more advice from Williamson. Seems to know what he’s talking about.
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07/04/2021 14:14:21 4 0
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sarcasm?
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07/04/2021 14:20:39 0 0
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no, no we don't. Teachers have been saying this for ages, but to too many tories and tabloids teachers are "lefty know-nothings". Williamson is catching up? Good. But not an endorsement of him
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07/04/2021 14:06:04 24 14
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Phones should be off in class but many pupils use their phones to access necessary apps after school such as for the bus home and homework submission. Just because something didn’t exist in 1900 doesn’t mean it’s evil.
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07/04/2021 14:11:03 13 1
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Yes indeed! Try finding a working payphone nowadays
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07/04/2021 14:11:28 198 13
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Great idea, pupils are at school to learn, not mess around on mobiles, its common sense.
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07/04/2021 15:15:17 41 217
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So you would deny access to modern technology. Its typical that older folk see progress as a threat rather than an opportunity.
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kh
07/04/2021 15:57:41 4 12
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You can learn from a mobile. You can use it as a calculator. It's not all about social media.
08/04/2021 10:52:13 0 0
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SIan, do you actually think children are allowed their phones in lessons?
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07/04/2021 14:11:47 1 7
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The horse has well and truly bolted on this subject. At a cricket training camp weekend I took the phones away from the teenagers/ young adults attending on Saturday morning and by that evening the coaches asked me to give them back because training went so badly because they could not concentrate knowing they wouldn't be getting them back until Sunday afternoon! They would turn feral in schools.
07/04/2021 23:38:35 0 0
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Well it happened (even the 28 year old physio said she felt uncomfortable just switching hers off!). Maybe the feral part was an exaggeration but a total ban as opposed to switched off and in your bag would be pushing it.
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07/04/2021 14:08:55 14 7
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Williamson is behind the times yet again and shows he is just not up to the job.

My daughter's current and former Secondary Schools have banned mobile phones in class/on premises for years.
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07/04/2021 14:11:55 7 5
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one school in thousands.....who's behind the times?
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:11:58 190 19
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"Mobile phones should be banned in schools"

DEFINITELY,

this is the first sensible suggestion from a Tory Education secretary in decades.
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07/04/2021 14:36:07 83 84
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there is very rarely a labour education minister,thank goodness .ho ho ho
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07/04/2021 14:49:48 11 1
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But sadly he's not suggesting anything new. Schools already do it.
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07/04/2021 15:26:10 17 1
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They should also be banned in the chamber if the the House of Commons. Too many MPs looking at screens and not listening to debates
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07/04/2021 15:47:58 4 1
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The were banned anyways
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07/04/2021 17:48:48 0 0
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It's incredible the lengths people are going to agree with the government, yet slate it at the same time.
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07/04/2021 14:12:05 4 13
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Schoolchildren are British Citizens and by law free to own and use mobiles, but need to learn etiquette and not use them in class in the same way as they are not allowed to talk to each other in class. Rule should be 'all mobiles face down on top of desk where teacher can see them' during the lesson. Including teacher's.
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07/04/2021 14:15:03 5 0
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Which law is that - please quote the statue under which it is covered.
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07/04/2021 14:08:49 3 31
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Luddites. Embrace technology, don't fear it.
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07/04/2021 14:12:42 15 1
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I agree, embrace technology - but don't encourage addiction to it... Especially at the expense of learning and social interaction.
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07/04/2021 14:12:47 38 4
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Fine to ban kids from using phones at school. But, equally, I wish this government didn't have an expectation that we all carry digital devices around with us all the time such that we can produce 'digital passports' upon request. Some of us neither own nor want a smartphone.
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07/04/2021 14:42:56 13 1
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Not just the government, it's everywhere. My NHS dentist now has all 'paperwork' available only via app which they text to the patient's smartphone.
When I told them I needed paper because I don't have a smartphone, they suggested I should change dentists!
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07/04/2021 15:02:00 5 1
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Totally agree. I have never had a mobile phone but I feel under more & more pressure to get one because of the expectation that I do have one - like buying a new computer and not being able to "sign in" to it because it demands a mobile number.
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07/04/2021 14:13:17 19 8
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Well done .about time. It will stop a lot of online bullying.
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07/04/2021 14:29:23 14 5
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Yes, because online bullying only takes place on school grounds during school hours...
07/04/2021 17:40:57 1 0
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Most online bullying takes place outside classroom hours. A lot of it in kids' bedrooms. That's where you've really got to worry about it.
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07/04/2021 14:13:25 29 2
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Phones are banned in schools - the issue is the parents giving all their children uncontrolled phone access with free internet even at primary school age.

Teachers and schools can only do so much to enforce no phone policy.
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07/04/2021 14:13:40 8 0
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We are responsible for the effects of technology in the hands of children, good or bad. We need to control what access they have through the devices, not that they have them. The internet is today’s Pandora’s box, what do we expect when we give children access to devices capable of accessing all the good and bad the world has to offer, especially when that access is virtually anonymous?
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07/04/2021 14:13:40 258 28
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And so should false nails and make-up. School is not a fashion parade, hence schools have prescribed uniforms........
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07/04/2021 14:26:44 27 113
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There's a campaign to drop uniforms too.
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07/04/2021 14:35:19 27 7
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Why are they being allowed to go to school with false nails, make-up, etc, etc. Lack of parental control.
669
07/04/2021 15:47:15 16 22
bbc
So, tell me. How can false nails and make up effect a young persons education? I don't wear make up because I have severe reactions if I wear it.
I'm with you for wearing uniforms but why nails and make up? They don't dress up for you adults, they dress up for them selves to make them feel happy and good.
727
07/04/2021 15:54:36 8 5
bbc
Try finding a school where there is a 'no uniform' policy. I don't want my g'children to wear prescribed clothing but ............ who cares what I think?
972
07/04/2021 16:24:15 8 4
bbc
So never wore your tie skinny side out? Or wore your uniform in a slightly different way? Shorter skirt than the approved length? It’s funny how when people become adults they turn into their parents. Complaining about false nails and make-up... stinks of you having nothing better to worry about in your life if you’re that outraged.
07/04/2021 16:33:37 4 0
bbc
Great deal of phone snobbery amongst pupils as well to go alongside it
07/04/2021 17:51:35 0 1
bbc
Comment posted by Choosy54, today at 15:13Choosy54
15:13
And so should false nails and make-up. School is not a fashion parade, hence schools have prescribed uniforms........
Reply

Totally agree. The teachers need to sharpen there own dress code
07/04/2021 17:56:11 5 1
bbc
Or we could just stop getting so offended by the way other people choose to present themselves?

Why does it bother you if a 16 year old girl wears make up to school?

Would you be so enraged at a boy wearing hair gel?
08/04/2021 10:51:43 0 0
bbc
Back to ye olde school rules of 1954 eh.... cos they worked.
37
07/04/2021 14:13:49 120 23
bbc
Don't ban phones.

Just turn schools into Faraday cages so that no signals can get in or out.

Any student carrying a phone will find it's a brick until they leave the building.

Problem solved.
105
07/04/2021 14:28:24 63 13
bbc
Wouldn't that affect staff communication devices too, and anything used in educating the kids that needs a signal?
118
NM
07/04/2021 14:30:37 6 1
bbc
The school that my kids go to effectively is as, due to the materials used, you can't get a signal anywhere within the building.
244
07/04/2021 14:48:22 10 4
bbc
We use the internet a lot in teaching, so not sure how that would work.
288
07/04/2021 14:53:15 18 2
bbc
You add a wifi point inside the faraday cage it will provide signal to the devices that have access to it. The physical wired connection to the AP is not affected by the faraday cage, or just have the teaching resources wired in to the network.
366
07/04/2021 15:09:14 14 3
bbc
wow, Faraday cages
who up votes this nonsense

you'd be lucky to get funding for a decent flat roof repair on that temporary building that's been in place for 22 years
let alone a structural retro-fit to put in place electromagnetic security

prisons don't even have this
(and won't anytime soon)
656
07/04/2021 15:45:17 0 1
bbc
Make the whole school TEMPEST compliant. Might cost a few quid...
Or just confiscate the damn phones on arrival and put them in secure storage until 'home time'
873
ian
07/04/2021 16:10:39 1 0
bbc
You that’s a good idea block all signals in and around school buildings and when governments want kids to get technical creative in technology when they leave school and the governments and businesses are been hacked in the future you can blame the governments of the day
951
07/04/2021 16:18:11 1 0
bbc
Wi-Fi is used very productively in schools so you cannot turn it off
989
07/04/2021 16:25:38 1 0
bbc
There are 24000 schools in the UK.

If you think that whilst we've got the biggest deficit since WW2 that idea has any merit then you're mad as a box of frogs.

And yes, I've worked inside a faraday cage many times - but I'd never suggest putting it around a whole building, let alone tens of thousands of them :D
07/04/2021 17:01:51 0 0
bbc
You do realise there is a lot you can do on a smartphone without a signal don't you? Games, taking photos, watching downloaded videos....
07/04/2021 19:54:37 0 0
bbc
It wouldn't stop bullying in the playground.
38
07/04/2021 14:13:50 3 4
bbc
We should issue all pupils with a standard tablet

Only capable of displaying a fireplace web shop on eBay
39
07/04/2021 14:13:58 189 10
bbc
Why were they ever allowed? I was baffled then, and I'm baffled now.
449
07/04/2021 15:22:05 79 227
bbc
Times change - if you are:

- over 60 you may find it difficult to work a smart phone
- over 40 and you never had one when you were at school
- over 20 you possibly never used a land line
- under 20 and they are part of the fabric of existence

Find ways to work with them, a ban is dark ages behaviour.
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kh
07/04/2021 15:58:34 6 16
bbc
Are you surprised people are allowed anything other than chalk and slate?
07/04/2021 16:54:30 6 2
bbc
Parents say that they are 'essential' to keep in touch with their children! What is school reception for, if not for that? Detentions do not work for repeat offenders. Students know this and exploit the system.

It would cut down quite a bit of bullying too!

Mobile phones should not be on the premises. Full stop, whatever parents say!
08/04/2021 07:05:32 0 1
bbc
Is there anything that doesn't baffle you?
ww
08/04/2021 08:43:49 0 0
bbc
They arrived before they were known about - you couldn't ban them before they were invented. And originally they were few and limited. Just a phone. Now they are different and invade the classroom without permission.
40
07/04/2021 14:14:18 14 2
bbc
Pretty sure that this is already a thing in all schools right? You're not allowed your mobile in the classroom? Just kind of shows how out of touch with reality this govt is...sounds like a great soundbite, but is actually a pretty meaningless gesture from this govt.
87
07/04/2021 14:24:25 6 8
bbc
Rubbish, we've received numerous texts from our granddaughter whilst she's been in school, when we challenged her about it she said the teachers don't mind..
24
07/04/2021 14:10:49 6 7
bbc
We need more advice from Williamson. Seems to know what he’s talking about.
41
07/04/2021 14:14:21 4 0
bbc
sarcasm?
56
07/04/2021 14:19:04 1 1
bbc
No. He’s always talking sense and has no history of error like the others in the cabinet. Got to be a strong favourite for next Prime Minister. Merkel and the other EU leaders would be instantly impressed with his intellect.
90
07/04/2021 14:24:53 0 0
bbc
Hopefully.
116
07/04/2021 14:29:58 1 0
bbc
God, I hope so
42
07/04/2021 14:14:25 21 1
bbc
Most schools have this policy anyway. You are to have them off during lesson and allowed to access them for emergencies only during school time.
43
07/04/2021 14:14:47 14 1
bbc
I work in a numbe rof secondary schools and they all have mobile phone polices which ban their use during the school day. If one is seen it is confiscated until the end of the school day. My son had a phone in order to contact us if he missed the school bus but he was so worried it might make a noise and be confiscated that he didn't take it. Now he is at uni and it is difficult to get him off it
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:25:11 7 14
bbc
If your son is at Uni and doing a REAL course,

he is not going to have time to use his phone !!!!!!!!!!!
115
07/04/2021 14:17:53 1 0
bbc
Not teaching English, I hope!
44
07/04/2021 14:14:50 51 5
bbc
Just like life in general with other "adults", it will be the few who ruin it for everyone else. Unfortunately this means smart phones being banned in class & possibly even in the whole school

Why?
Err lets see

1. distraction
2. malicious communication
3. access to porn & other questionable material
4. lacking understanding of boundaries

There are positive uses but nobody has shown it to them
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Leo
07/04/2021 14:26:09 25 35
bbc
You argue as if none of those "negatives" existed before the advent of mobile phones.

Mobile phones aren't a problem. Being "connected" isn't a problem. People's behaviour and attitude is the problem, and that won't be resolved by issuing some draconian ban on technology. In fact I don't think this issue can ever be "resolved" as there will always be dissent and disturbance.
450
07/04/2021 15:22:10 2 0
bbc
So surely they need to be taught responsible use?!
768
07/04/2021 15:58:57 3 2
bbc
You can't access Porn on a School computer. Plus according to scientific research Pornography can actually be beneficial to your health and decreases the risk for men to have cancer. Plus what you are using now... a device to comment on this article is a distraction to you. So it's double standards really.
45
07/04/2021 14:14:55 499 13
bbc
We did this in our secondary school in Sept last year - barely a murmur of dissent from any student or parent, and virtually 100% compliance when the school's been open. Just do it!
347
07/04/2021 15:04:57 9 168
bbc
Sure saw another report that it resulted in widespread problems with withdrawal symptons!
363
07/04/2021 15:08:30 7 10
bbc
Like most things this Gov't claims as being a major success, I see no evidence to support the view that remote learning has been beneficial to the majority of students at all.
Motivated middle class kids, with motivated at home parents... perhaps. Otherwise a completely, unnecessarily wasted year.
394
07/04/2021 15:13:44 15 1
bbc
Well said im behind this. Just do it! yes!
527
ET
07/04/2021 15:30:12 17 2
bbc
Over ten years since we did this. The real question is how come some schools have failed to ban them?
536
07/04/2021 15:31:50 22 1
bbc
Ours too - they are allowed them to have available for emergency use, or contacting parents outside school hours (ie the bus does not turn up / they miss a lift after an after school club), but use within break times and lesson times is banned and items removed if any pupil found using them.
556
07/04/2021 15:33:40 6 1
bbc
We've tried this. The parents ring them on the phones during school!!!
597
07/04/2021 15:38:43 17 3
bbc
One problem - we live in the sticks with hardly any bus service (in fact only maintained for school). Phone kiosks are now pretty much a thing of the past. So when something goes wrong I want my son to be able to reach me rather than be stranded in town. It has happened. So at his schools phones were allowed, and on pain of confiscation, were not misused. Surely better to teach kids how to behave!
46
07/04/2021 14:15:27 16 2
bbc
Give a Minister time and he will eventually start listening to teachers advice. Sometimes those who do a thing know what they are talking about.
(not always I grant you)
19
07/04/2021 14:08:31 71 2
bbc
Can't remember where I saw it written but I remember a teacher did an experiment, where every time a student got a push notification they had to put it on the board.

In the 50 minute class they were more than 30 snap chats, 40 Facebook notifications and several others...

This is a good idea in my book.
47
07/04/2021 14:15:45 21 8
bbc
Book? What's that??? :)
351
07/04/2021 15:05:07 4 0
bbc
It's something you read on your mobile phone, using an e-book reader like Kindle.
48
07/04/2021 14:15:52 221 47
bbc
Kids may need phones on way to and from school.

Phones should be in Lockers while at school.
68
07/04/2021 14:20:59 40 56
bbc
Thieves charter?
88
07/04/2021 14:24:38 10 38
bbc
Do you have to put your phone in a locker when you're at work?
139
DWM
07/04/2021 14:33:25 36 6
bbc
Kids have survived for years and years going to and from school without a phone.
245
07/04/2021 14:48:29 17 5
bbc
Why? 20 years ago kids would not have had a phone, and they seemed to survive OK. A phone just makes a kid a target for thieves and bullying.
289
07/04/2021 14:35:19 7 3
bbc
Lockers? Few school have such storage facilities these days.
295
07/04/2021 14:55:06 10 1
bbc
A £10 pay as you go mobile from Tesco will cover that one. Bet they wouldn't be showing those off around the school. If they get stolen, easy to replace and worthless to any thief.
534
07/04/2021 15:31:32 7 3
bbc
By need read want.
924
07/04/2021 16:17:29 3 2
bbc
Why do children need phones on way to and from school? I sure they managed to travel to and from school before the wide spread use of mobiles by school age children. Phones should be left at home.
07/04/2021 16:37:19 3 0
bbc
Why?
07/04/2021 18:44:03 1 3
bbc
They can be stolen from lockers.
Also, using phones in the school can aid learning.
Also, if they didn't have their phone, and a teacher was not present, who would they talk to if they're threatened with a knife by another student? Because their only option would be to dial 999 but how can they with no phone?
08/04/2021 08:44:31 0 0
bbc
Why do they NEED them. I'm sure some parents will scream human rights but just ignore them they will soon go away. We never had mobile phones and any urgent contact was done through the school office. It's about time the schools took back control and remind both children and parents it's a place to learn.
08/04/2021 18:16:45 0 0
bbc
Provision of space for individual lockers for quite possibly 1,000 or more students? Not forgetting keys and replacements for lost keys. Sharing lockers inevitably leads to theft. Problems also for schools and insurance of phones. These aren't excuses, they're reality.
49
07/04/2021 14:16:31 95 14
bbc
Talk about stating the bleedin obvious. Should have been done years ago!
398
07/04/2021 15:14:03 8 6
bbc
has
07/04/2021 16:31:43 1 0
bbc
It was done years ago. I left in early 2000s, was the rule back then and hasn't changed.

Tory yawn fest or what.
11
07/04/2021 14:05:06 35 8
bbc
They need to ensure all schools have enough computers for all pupils to use when required. No need at all for mobiles and they should be collected at the start of the school day, stored safely, then returned at home time.
50
ljs
07/04/2021 14:16:33 32 69
bbc
Schools DO NOT NEED computers,

they NEED teachers who can TEACH and BOOKS.

I did not have access to a computer till I when to University.
71
07/04/2021 14:21:39 26 3
bbc
While I agree with you that they need teachers that are able to teach and to use books, it is wholly impractical and ignorant to say they do not computers in this day and age.

Education about and using computers has been necessary for well over 25 years now.
100
NM
07/04/2021 14:27:02 21 1
bbc
Do you propose removing computers from the workplace, as schools are there to educate and ensure that pupils are capable of joining the workforce.
120
07/04/2021 14:31:19 5 9
bbc
I partially agree, kids are given access to computer learning far too early, even before some can be considered numerate and literate.

Computers could be considered from a couple of years before leaving school and before their final exams.
229
07/04/2021 14:45:45 24 3
bbc
Was that because a 16Mhz 386 with a 40mb hard disc used to cost £2,500? Back in the day if you wanted to make a silly comment on the BBC you had to write a letter to points of view. Things change.
271
07/04/2021 14:51:31 17 1
bbc
Yes, we could continue to teach as if it's the 1950s.....but all our pupils have chromebooks, which allows us to use Google classroom for all resources. Those with literacy difficulties can speech type and have texts read to them and we have various platforms to improve literacy and numeracy. Having learned all this in lockdown it seems silly to throw it all away like Luddites.
304
07/04/2021 14:56:14 14 2
bbc
Personally, I very much doubt that you went to University. This is evidenced by your use of capital letters and the fact that you are unable to differentiate between when and went.
365
07/04/2021 15:09:00 6 1
bbc
Many schools do not have libraries now, so the only place for students to do any reading or independent research (both valuable skills for university and many workplaces) is on computers in schools. Not everyone has a computer at home, or can afford the data package on their phone to do this at home. Besides which, learning should be at school and home should be for recreation and relaxation.
425
07/04/2021 15:17:20 6 0
bbc
whereas I wrote my first computer program at the age of six.... I wonder which of us is more computer literate and employable in the modern workplace?
485
07/04/2021 15:25:36 4 0
bbc
If we want to step back in time and fall behind other nations that all sounds great.
If however, we want to train world leading professionals of the future, we need 21st century technology in every classroom.
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ajc
07/04/2021 15:29:02 4 0
bbc
Hi. It’s 2021...
640
07/04/2021 15:40:40 4 0
bbc
Really!
I am assuming that you are happy to widen the already cavernous gap between those with internet/laptop/tablet access and those without.

The world we live in is governed by IT. Turn on your washing machine=IT.
Schools have books but your statements are as extinct as the dinosaurs!
744
07/04/2021 15:56:10 2 0
bbc
To late, with out computers, us students now can not get educated without computers because of the COVID pandemic. We need computers to learn and have virtual lessons.
915
07/04/2021 16:16:42 3 0
bbc
You're from a different time. Limiting access to technology will cripple the generation.

They need more tech education, not less.

If you don't believe me, look up average developer salaries.
985
07/04/2021 16:20:45 3 0
bbc
Computers are valuable in all kinds of courses. You are totally misguided.
07/04/2021 17:18:38 2 0
bbc
And the award for most ridiculous, out of touch comment goes to...
Yeah let's go back to 1940 just because grandma didn't have a school, ze Germans blu it uppe!!

Idiot statement.
Removed
07/04/2021 17:38:33 1 0
bbc
Books?? Namby-pamby nonsense. I had a slate and the teacher at the board. And a map of the word with lots of red on it! That's what kids need more of today. Not "technology".
08/04/2021 11:16:05 0 0
bbc
It's a shame you didn't learn to spell. A computer might have helped you learn the difference between the words when and went.
51
07/04/2021 14:16:44 10 19
bbc
More nonsense. Phones won't be and don't need to be banned.

Proper classroom management which actually encourages their use is far more effective,

Daughter uses them in class for receiving info from presentations, taking photos of what is being taught, videoing sport sessions for analysis, research.

She does this once she gets to school and for that she uses a bus. The pass is on her phone!
58
07/04/2021 14:19:09 6 4
bbc
Probably uses it whilst crossing the road as well.......
61
07/04/2021 14:20:01 3 3
bbc
You are so wrong things have got too soft in UK..
67
07/04/2021 14:20:39 4 0
bbc
I don’t believe for a second teachers have the tools to manage the kids today , it’s hard to deny someone’s “rights” but it does seem to be used against the running of school discipline
72
07/04/2021 14:22:00 1 0
bbc
Yes, they should whilst in school
317
Si
07/04/2021 14:58:10 1 0
bbc
That’s idealistic thinking in my opinion, realistically they are an undeniable issue on several levels.
52
07/04/2021 14:17:30 75 9
bbc
There is no need for any student to have a mobile phone in class, so either left in jacket or rucksack at minimum, preferably secured in a locker and used only at lunchtime/end of school day.

This is rather like so many things today too politically correct, cannot say or do anything, no deterrent and minimal action on any consequences.
140
07/04/2021 14:33:38 35 46
bbc
Thanks to decades of cuts, most kids don’t have lockers, they don’t have desks, they do not even have textbooks these days. When will Williamson demand the compulsory use of Quill pens?
628
07/04/2021 15:42:16 3 0
bbc
Mp's should not have phones in the chamber
53
07/04/2021 14:18:28 10 15
bbc
Gavin should really leave the kids alone, a blanket phone ban is the worst idea I've ever heard, typical conservative draconian schitt.
76
07/04/2021 14:22:56 6 4
bbc
It’s back to basics..if you cannot do without a mobile for c6 hours then you have a very sad life.
54
07/04/2021 14:18:35 9 20
bbc
Mobile phones are a part of life now, and will become even moreso. Get used to it. Evolution
70
07/04/2021 14:21:36 7 4
bbc
That's why more and more kids are leaving school thick as two short planks.
55
07/04/2021 14:18:56 10 2
bbc
All schools should ban handguns
41
07/04/2021 14:14:21 4 0
bbc
sarcasm?
56
07/04/2021 14:19:04 1 1
bbc
No. He’s always talking sense and has no history of error like the others in the cabinet. Got to be a strong favourite for next Prime Minister. Merkel and the other EU leaders would be instantly impressed with his intellect.
117
07/04/2021 14:30:20 1 0
bbc
Also sarcasm?
57
07/04/2021 14:19:06 2 6
bbc
This article only applies to England, another headline grabbing reactionary distraction from a government which is as incompetent as it is inconsistent!

At one moment they insist on devolving as many powers as possible to school boards, and the next, micromanaging day to day operations.
51
07/04/2021 14:16:44 10 19
bbc
More nonsense. Phones won't be and don't need to be banned.

Proper classroom management which actually encourages their use is far more effective,

Daughter uses them in class for receiving info from presentations, taking photos of what is being taught, videoing sport sessions for analysis, research.

She does this once she gets to school and for that she uses a bus. The pass is on her phone!
58
07/04/2021 14:19:09 6 4
bbc
Probably uses it whilst crossing the road as well.......
59
07/04/2021 14:19:39 7 9
bbc
Distraction from a bumbling covid passport response.

Populist government
80
07/04/2021 14:23:35 3 1
bbc
Gav has plenty of actual education issues to solve, but no, let's talk about mobile phones
60
Leo
07/04/2021 14:20:01 3 8
bbc
I would suggest punishing the use of mobile phones in the classroom would be sufficient, but that's probably already being done. The rest of Williamson's comments just show how divorced he is from the modern reality of our connected society, and how supercilious he is when talking about young people who have just as much right to stay "connected" as adults do.
51
07/04/2021 14:16:44 10 19
bbc
More nonsense. Phones won't be and don't need to be banned.

Proper classroom management which actually encourages their use is far more effective,

Daughter uses them in class for receiving info from presentations, taking photos of what is being taught, videoing sport sessions for analysis, research.

She does this once she gets to school and for that she uses a bus. The pass is on her phone!
61
07/04/2021 14:20:01 3 3
bbc
You are so wrong things have got too soft in UK..
62
07/04/2021 14:20:10 19 2
bbc
Got absolutely no chance of policing that one. Teacher will spend all lesson going from one kid to the next checking rather than teaching.
Thing is who let the thing become the norm in the 1st place? Who encourages kids at such a young age to even have a phone at all?
63
07/04/2021 14:20:13 17 1
bbc
If it reduces children staring at the screen, shuffling their feet with no idea what’s in front of them then good (not just children before anyone comments).
106
07/04/2021 14:28:34 4 7
bbc
You’re aware they’ve got a massive great big screen in nearly every classroom, right?
64
07/04/2021 14:20:26 16 2
bbc
Didn't know they weren't already! It seems crazy to me that this isn't the case - and very sensible and logical for many many reasons to ban phones from schools. Furthermore I think there should be specific education on the benefits BUT also harmful aspects of Smart phones & social media etc. and teach young people to become less hooked on it all.
682
Jay
07/04/2021 15:48:01 0 2
bbc
Yes, we should encourage them to go out and do all those things that we shut down in the name of covid that is effectively irrelevant for young people...
65
07/04/2021 14:20:35 5 1
bbc
I suspect it is certain schools in certain neighbourhoods with aggressive parents and weak SLTs & possibly Governors
24
07/04/2021 14:10:49 6 7
bbc
We need more advice from Williamson. Seems to know what he’s talking about.
66
07/04/2021 14:20:39 0 0
bbc
no, no we don't. Teachers have been saying this for ages, but to too many tories and tabloids teachers are "lefty know-nothings". Williamson is catching up? Good. But not an endorsement of him
102
07/04/2021 14:27:56 0 1
bbc
Got to listen to Gavin Williamson. Like Gove he’s a breath of fresh air to the Education sector.
51
07/04/2021 14:16:44 10 19
bbc
More nonsense. Phones won't be and don't need to be banned.

Proper classroom management which actually encourages their use is far more effective,

Daughter uses them in class for receiving info from presentations, taking photos of what is being taught, videoing sport sessions for analysis, research.

She does this once she gets to school and for that she uses a bus. The pass is on her phone!
67
07/04/2021 14:20:39 4 0
bbc
I don’t believe for a second teachers have the tools to manage the kids today , it’s hard to deny someone’s “rights” but it does seem to be used against the running of school discipline
48
07/04/2021 14:15:52 221 47
bbc
Kids may need phones on way to and from school.

Phones should be in Lockers while at school.
68
07/04/2021 14:20:59 40 56
bbc
Thieves charter?
994
07/04/2021 16:26:18 0 3
bbc
Fear mongering. You sound a lot like the Tory government. They control you by making you fearful of your life, your family’s well-being and loss of material property.
69
07/04/2021 14:21:29 17 1
bbc
Video game consoles should not be taken into school
54
07/04/2021 14:18:35 9 20
bbc
Mobile phones are a part of life now, and will become even moreso. Get used to it. Evolution
70
07/04/2021 14:21:36 7 4
bbc
That's why more and more kids are leaving school thick as two short planks.
112
Leo
07/04/2021 14:29:35 1 0
bbc
I would place the blame more on the quality of education that is geared towards rote learning in order to answer exam questions rather than any in-depth understanding of the subjects.
50
ljs
07/04/2021 14:16:33 32 69
bbc
Schools DO NOT NEED computers,

they NEED teachers who can TEACH and BOOKS.

I did not have access to a computer till I when to University.
71
07/04/2021 14:21:39 26 3
bbc
While I agree with you that they need teachers that are able to teach and to use books, it is wholly impractical and ignorant to say they do not computers in this day and age.

Education about and using computers has been necessary for well over 25 years now.
51
07/04/2021 14:16:44 10 19
bbc
More nonsense. Phones won't be and don't need to be banned.

Proper classroom management which actually encourages their use is far more effective,

Daughter uses them in class for receiving info from presentations, taking photos of what is being taught, videoing sport sessions for analysis, research.

She does this once she gets to school and for that she uses a bus. The pass is on her phone!
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07/04/2021 14:22:00 1 0
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Yes, they should whilst in school
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07/04/2021 14:22:24 17 5
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Maybe you should sort the actual issues in schools. Gav, the ones you and your Tory predecessors caused.
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07/04/2021 15:21:04 2 3
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distraction works fella

expect policy announcements on ex-servicemen leading flag waving sessions for the under-fives
In which case - Priti Patel shouldn't be allowed a smartphone. Removed
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07/04/2021 14:22:35 19 30
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Brilliant!
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07/04/2021 14:22:39 6 9
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Maybe he should have asked someone who knows something about how schools work before embarrassing himself yet again, phone usage during school lessons is already banned in most schools but not actually having them. My children have always had theirs on them but switched off during lessons. They can be a lifeline for most children especially those with mental health issues.
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07/04/2021 14:37:45 1 0
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No, you just think they're turned off because your kids tell you that.
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07/04/2021 14:18:28 10 15
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Gavin should really leave the kids alone, a blanket phone ban is the worst idea I've ever heard, typical conservative draconian schitt.
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07/04/2021 14:22:56 6 4
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It’s back to basics..if you cannot do without a mobile for c6 hours then you have a very sad life.
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07/04/2021 14:34:19 0 0
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Forget 6 hours, my 14 year old step-niece can't cope without her mobile for 6 minutes! Total, total phone addiction.
Last time she visited, she forgot her charger so her battery died. That was apparently everyone's fault but her own and she ended up having a screaming, hysterical tantrum like a toddler. I became genuinely scared of her behaviour.
Lockdown with no visits has been pure joy
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07/04/2021 14:36:42 1 0
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So, every MP then?
In which case - Priti Patel shouldn't be allowed a smartphone. Removed
I wouldn't trust her with a sharp pencil let alone a smart phone.
Certainly shouldn't be allowed a passport in case she tries implementing a treasonous* personal foreign policy... again...

*Allegedly, in my opinion, etc etc.
Removed
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07/04/2021 14:23:28 4 7
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This oxygen thief needs to disappear into the sunset... Hopeless! !!
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07/04/2021 14:23:29 4 1
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Good luck Gavin getting that Genie back in the bottle....
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07/04/2021 14:19:39 7 9
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Distraction from a bumbling covid passport response.

Populist government
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07/04/2021 14:23:35 3 1
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Gav has plenty of actual education issues to solve, but no, let's talk about mobile phones
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07/04/2021 14:23:39 2 8
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Phones are already banned in class (and rightly so). If anyone is caught messing round on the internet, their phone gets confiscated for collection by parents only. If they're banned from taking phones in, how are my kids supposed to let me know if theres any drama on the way home from school? Private Borlbag shouldn't be anywhere near this level of decision-making.
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07/04/2021 14:29:42 1 0
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Williamson and co will have blood on their hands if kids can’t communicate with parents etc after school.
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07/04/2021 14:36:50 0 1
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How did kids cope before mobile phones?
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07/04/2021 14:37:41 1 0
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When is Williamson going to demand the exclusive use of Quill pens in schools? Will he bring back the birch and 6 of the best?
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07/04/2021 14:41:32 0 1
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How on earth did we manage before mobiles were invented?
We just did.
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07/04/2021 14:03:11 400 33
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Why has it taken so long for him finally to say this? It's blindingly obvious to a half witted baboon that letting kids carry their mobiles around at school is not good for anyone. They are constantly on it when they get chance. The school should have numbers to call in case of emergency. There should be no NEED whatsoever for kids to have mobiles.
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07/04/2021 14:23:41 35 16
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Most schools don't allow them in class anyway.... What Gavin is doing here is stating something obviously popular but technically redundant just to make themselves look relevant (and maybe make us forget how dire he has been in post)
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ET
07/04/2021 15:32:17 6 0
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Sadly not. I’ve come across schools that do allow them, recently. The fact they have disciplinary issues might be related. I couldn’t comment.
FSG
07/04/2021 17:40:16 1 0
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When I worked with apprentices, the rule in college was phones off and away. "That's turn it off and put it in your bag". I took a phone of one of the lads in class and put it on the front desk. The poor 19 yr old was almost in tears that he could see his phone but wasn't able to touch it. The following week, he turned it off and put it his bag, like all the rest of the class.
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07/04/2021 14:23:43 4 6
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They don’t need banning. Existing rules need to be strictly adhered to and parents need to back the school in banning phones where pupils don’t follow those rules.
They can be great tools to aid education, cyber security (for example 2 factor authentication) and for safety. They just need using correctly. And if the school doesn’t have a use for them in the classroom, they don’t get used.
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07/04/2021 14:23:49 3 8
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In general, yes, phones shouldn't be used in schools. However, sometimes, when used correctly they can help with learning - which can include kids who may not feel confident in contributing in the "usual" way.

Teacher discretion is important and we can't assume that technology will stay out of the "average" classroom forever.
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07/04/2021 14:05:32 115 10
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I'm surprised they are not already.. showing my age.
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NM
07/04/2021 14:23:49 106 29
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A lot of schools already have bans. He's making it sound like he's leading, but isn't.
07/04/2021 16:30:27 1 0
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Yes, but a lot don’t - he’s suggesting it should be official ?
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07/04/2021 14:05:32 115 10
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I'm surprised they are not already.. showing my age.
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07/04/2021 14:24:13 12 0
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They're not. This is just a dead cat distraction
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07/04/2021 14:14:18 14 2
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Pretty sure that this is already a thing in all schools right? You're not allowed your mobile in the classroom? Just kind of shows how out of touch with reality this govt is...sounds like a great soundbite, but is actually a pretty meaningless gesture from this govt.
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07/04/2021 14:24:25 6 8
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Rubbish, we've received numerous texts from our granddaughter whilst she's been in school, when we challenged her about it she said the teachers don't mind..
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07/04/2021 14:35:42 9 0
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And you believed her???
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07/04/2021 14:38:50 8 0
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Yeah, I'm sure she was being honest with you about that...
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07/04/2021 14:15:52 221 47
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Kids may need phones on way to and from school.

Phones should be in Lockers while at school.
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07/04/2021 14:24:38 10 38
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Do you have to put your phone in a locker when you're at work?
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07/04/2021 14:49:48 12 2
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No, I'm an adult.
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07/04/2021 15:34:25 13 0
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"Do you have to put your phone in a locker when you're at work?"

===

I have worked on many different sites in my career. If you are on any site which has business with the Ministry of Defence then the answer is a resounding YES!

In many parts of industry, smart phone addiction will get you fired. Teach kids self control at school before they have to learn the hard way.
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07/04/2021 15:38:41 5 0
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He's not a Kid.
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07/04/2021 15:47:55 7 0
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Yes, I gave done for 10years.
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07/04/2021 15:57:58 9 0
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You will find that in many jobs where you have access to customer personal information on screen you do have to leave your phone in a locker. The employer will not risk a photo being taken of customer information, failure to comply is a sacking offence.
Not being permanently attached to a phone doesn't hurt, really it doesn't.
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07/04/2021 16:06:43 3 0
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I did when I worked at Littlewoods.
07/04/2021 16:50:19 4 0
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Most employers discourage people from making personal phone calls while they are being paid to work. Doesn't yours?
07/04/2021 22:51:56 2 0
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Actually, some companies do as they ban the phone from being on the work floor. Disciplinary action if you're found with a phone on the work floor unless previously approved by a manager (waiting for an important call - doctors, for example). If your mobile is on the work floor, you could potentially steal company data, so they strictly enforce the bans.
08/04/2021 15:16:51 0 0
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>Do you have to put your phone in a locker when you're at work?
Yes
There are some places where I work where all personal tech, including car keys, have to be left with security, for collection on exit.
08/04/2021 22:52:24 0 0
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Umm, yes some people do have to put their phone in a locker at work, at the leisure centre where I work as a swimming teacher you would get fired for having it on poolside with you, same for the lifeguards, even smart watches are not allowed.
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07/04/2021 14:24:51 33 3
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Same for the House of Commons. If MPs feel it is appropriate to be texting/playing Candy Crush during committee meetings, this malaise goes deeper than kids at school.
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07/04/2021 14:14:21 4 0
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sarcasm?
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07/04/2021 14:24:53 0 0
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Hopefully.
This baboon says schools only want a ban so they can avoid the obvious backlash of why they have not stopped bullying. Oh and to hide teacher incompetence. Removed
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07/04/2021 14:25:03 6 3
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You got a link to the bit in the PGCE where it says teachers are responsible for mobile phones?
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07/04/2021 14:25:07 4 12
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Gavin should really just "Shut up and go away". Seriously, leave the kids out of these terrible tory Draconian measures.
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07/04/2021 14:14:47 14 1
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I work in a numbe rof secondary schools and they all have mobile phone polices which ban their use during the school day. If one is seen it is confiscated until the end of the school day. My son had a phone in order to contact us if he missed the school bus but he was so worried it might make a noise and be confiscated that he didn't take it. Now he is at uni and it is difficult to get him off it
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:25:11 7 14
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If your son is at Uni and doing a REAL course,

he is not going to have time to use his phone !!!!!!!!!!!
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07/04/2021 14:38:19 3 0
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1876 called, but you were too busy to answer your phone
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07/04/2021 15:26:40 2 0
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unless the REAL course requires any research....
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07/04/2021 14:25:34 28 3
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Having mobile phones on them all the time is turning them in to junkies. I watch them walking past my house everyday, phone in their hands continually looking, not taking note of what is going on around them.
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07/04/2021 14:38:49 22 0
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Or walking home with a mate and, instead of talking together, each one is on their phone!
The same with young mothers pushing babies in buggies; they're on their phones instead of talking to the child who will not develop its vocabulary at all.
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07/04/2021 14:26:11 1 0
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Yes, and that's just the teachers.
07/04/2021 18:15:48 0 0
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These kids never play outside anymore, they've always got their heads in those books! All they can think about is words and pages! It can't be good for their brains. I've never read a book in my life and I don't intend on starting now!
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MVP
07/04/2021 14:25:41 5 10
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That is like saying that computers should be banned in schools.

I do not think that Mr WIlliamson understands the modern world
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07/04/2021 14:28:02 1 2
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He and Gove want a return to Victorian values. Those were appalling for all but controlling men like them.
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07/04/2021 14:14:50 51 5
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Just like life in general with other "adults", it will be the few who ruin it for everyone else. Unfortunately this means smart phones being banned in class & possibly even in the whole school

Why?
Err lets see

1. distraction
2. malicious communication
3. access to porn & other questionable material
4. lacking understanding of boundaries

There are positive uses but nobody has shown it to them
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Leo
07/04/2021 14:26:09 25 35
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You argue as if none of those "negatives" existed before the advent of mobile phones.

Mobile phones aren't a problem. Being "connected" isn't a problem. People's behaviour and attitude is the problem, and that won't be resolved by issuing some draconian ban on technology. In fact I don't think this issue can ever be "resolved" as there will always be dissent and disturbance.
07/04/2021 16:30:52 3 0
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The pupils are at school. They are there to 'connect' with their teachers and their class mates IRL.
07/04/2021 17:01:03 3 0
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Methinks Leo doesn’t want to be parted from his mobile fwend.

Being “connected” whilst at school absolutely is a problem - concentration levels are already low, but banning the use of mobile phones during the school day may help. I would suggest good parenting would see the same ban being extended outside of school hours - I shudder at the lack of real play and socialising that exists now.
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07/04/2021 14:12:19 0 0
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I thought they already were.
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07/04/2021 14:26:20 6 6
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here we go, all the frantic, stressed, anxious parents bleating my child NEEDS a mobile phone what c..p.
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07/04/2021 14:45:02 0 0
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Hope you’ve got a padlock on that codpease
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07/04/2021 14:31:33 0 0
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Yes Victor Meldrew.
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07/04/2021 14:13:40 258 28
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And so should false nails and make-up. School is not a fashion parade, hence schools have prescribed uniforms........
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07/04/2021 14:26:44 27 113
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There's a campaign to drop uniforms too.
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Pip
07/04/2021 14:41:17 12 8
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Careful what you wish for, this has been tried before, that's why they were quickly back into school uniforms...........?
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kh
07/04/2021 15:56:44 13 28
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Uniforms are something you would expect from a communist country like China. Conform, conform, conform, totally the opposite of what our society should be about.
07/04/2021 16:27:29 3 0
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Keep the uniforms but change to them speciying just the colour e.g shade raneg of blue or grey etc; then only provide school badges which have to be appear on certain items e.g blazer/cardigans etc. that way still have a uniform look but make school uniforms much cheaper.
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:16:33 32 69
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Schools DO NOT NEED computers,

they NEED teachers who can TEACH and BOOKS.

I did not have access to a computer till I when to University.
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NM
07/04/2021 14:27:02 21 1
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Do you propose removing computers from the workplace, as schools are there to educate and ensure that pupils are capable of joining the workforce.
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ljs
07/04/2021 14:31:49 9 20
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They are ONLY needed for Computer studies.

Anything, else a basic calculator is perfectly adequate.

They NEED to learn the basics about everything before they get near a computer.