Covid: Moderna vaccine UK rollout begins in Wales
07/04/2021 | news | uk | 1,601
The vaccine is the third to be used in the UK, with England's rollout due "in the next few days".
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jon
07/04/2021 10:26:41 83 18
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Well done to the government in securing valuable new supplies. The successful vaccine roll-out across all four nations shows we are stronger together as a UK union. Moderna will add greatly to the supply chain and the forthcoming Johnson & Johnson single dose vaccine will likely become the “jab & go” for the younger population.
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07/04/2021 10:29:44 46 14
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Johnson & Johnson is currently the one I am more weary of, there are reports of some major side effects but so true. UK pretty much proving how to vaccine right
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07/04/2021 11:51:33 4 11
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I guess you voted for Brexit.
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07/04/2021 13:30:51 0 0
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The issue with Johnson is the continuous claims there talc caused cancer in millions of people. It's a very long drawn out and dare I say corrupt legal case
07/04/2021 19:18:40 0 1
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Yeah theUK gave everyone a faulty vaccine. Better together... ha ha ha ha ha, no thanks.
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07/04/2021 10:28:49 30 10
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The UK is the vaccination nation.
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07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
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Soon to be the blood clot nation.
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07/04/2021 11:07:58 2 1
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Israel is the vaccination nation. Started early many people have had both Pfizer and it is opening up.
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07/04/2021 11:22:17 0 0
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and the nation with the vaccination and testing stations avoided by the asians
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07/04/2021 10:29:14 17 8
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Great news another vaccine is available to bring us out of the lockdowns safely. Also encouraging how high the uptake has been.
Big thanks to our NHS workers and also all the volunteers helping to distribute the vaccine around the UK. Heroes one and all
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07/04/2021 10:37:52 23 8
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Also the government for great forward thinking.
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07/04/2021 10:29:24 5 15
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Can I have one of each?

Kind of reminds me of an early 90s rave song by Praga Khan - Injected with a Poison!
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jon
07/04/2021 10:26:41 83 18
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Well done to the government in securing valuable new supplies. The successful vaccine roll-out across all four nations shows we are stronger together as a UK union. Moderna will add greatly to the supply chain and the forthcoming Johnson & Johnson single dose vaccine will likely become the “jab & go” for the younger population.
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07/04/2021 10:29:44 46 14
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Johnson & Johnson is currently the one I am more weary of, there are reports of some major side effects but so true. UK pretty much proving how to vaccine right
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07/04/2021 10:40:28 9 3
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This a joke? Look at the safety data from Moderna phase 3 trial - horrific side effects.
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07/04/2021 12:55:08 4 1
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Weary already and it hasn't even started yet?
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07/04/2021 10:29:54 13 3
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Good news and with Novavax potentially not far behind hopefully the vast majority of the country will be vaccinated soon
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07/04/2021 10:40:43 19 34
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And why would that matter? Even if we had 100% of people vaccinated we would STILL be under restrictions, STILL have to wear poxy masks all the time, and STILL not be able to travel. Is there actually a point anymore?

I give up
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07/04/2021 11:30:01 5 11
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Yay good news! Go on sheep, get your vaccine. You'll still never be free though.

But at least you'll have done your duty like a good little citizen. Here, have a sticker with a yellow star on it.
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07/04/2021 10:30:15 46 11
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Great that we have more vaccines available but do we really need yet another HYS on this subject?

Surely we could discuss far more important issues?
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07/04/2021 10:36:11 15 4
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There is literally nothing to say other than 'awww, that's nice init x'... Or 'Cool.. Just so long as it is safe'.
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07/04/2021 10:43:33 7 3
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Like Harry and Meghan
Like Boris's shoddy Brexit deal and the lies he told to hoodwink people into voting leave? Removed
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07/04/2021 10:28:49 30 10
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The UK is the vaccination nation.
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07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
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Soon to be the blood clot nation.
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 33 2
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You certainly fit into the bracket of being a 'clot'.
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07/04/2021 10:38:16 22 3
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Rubbish. Go back to France.
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07/04/2021 10:43:13 20 2
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People get blood clots. The fact that they had the vaccine could be just a coincidence. But what ever way you look at it you are more likely to win the lottery than get a blood clot from the vaccine
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07/04/2021 10:42:41 11 3
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Tin foil hat in the post?
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07/04/2021 11:28:28 0 8
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Soon to be a nation where a natural immune system doesn't exist because:

1: as soon as there's a whiff of illness people will lock themselves in their homes, weakening their natural immunity

2: people are obsessed with vaccines. Shame there isn't a vaccine against stupid people. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
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07/04/2021 12:41:51 1 0
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Cloewn
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07/04/2021 10:31:58 4 18
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This afternoon the EMA will announce that there is a causal link for blood clots with certain age/gender groups taking the AZ vac (pre-announced yesterday). The MHRA will have to follow suit otherwise the regulation world will be thrown into disarray.

This Moderna vac may be the answer. We have waited a year, a few months longer is not a problem.
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LBW
07/04/2021 10:36:26 11 2
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How the hell do you know
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07/04/2021 10:37:00 8 2
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You get blood clots even if you don’t have the vaccine. Project fear by the media.
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07/04/2021 10:33:07 158 23
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The government has done a good job on procuring these vaccines, so rather than give them a salary increase this year can we all clap for them instead?
The procurement of PPE has been a good earner for them. They paid 10x the real price. Plenty of scope for kick backs there. Removed
The NHS has done a good job with these vaccines. Tory policy has killed thousands and their corruption over PPE and Tory failure over Track and Trace STINKS! Removed
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07/04/2021 11:23:37 3 7
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When MPs decided their own salary, they had 0% increases for decades, as it was judged (by govt's of both colours) it wouldn't sit well with the public. Our MPs get paid very little compared with other countries and other professions. The risk is more independently wealthy people will enter politics. The last expenses 'scandal' led to changes, now MPs salaries are set independently of politicians
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07/04/2021 11:41:20 2 2
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I think they all deserve "The Clap".
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07/04/2021 13:55:07 0 1
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I support throwing them all into the river thames
07/04/2021 14:41:59 1 1
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The management of covid in this country has been atrocious. Too late with lockdown, too early to open up, 'Eat out to Help Out', handing millions to chums for substandard ppe, Track & Trace . . . the list gest on.

A slow handclap maybe, laden with sarcasm certainly.
07/04/2021 19:15:23 0 2
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Yes, well done Boris buying faulty vaccines.
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07/04/2021 10:35:28 53 14
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Going forward into 3-4Q uk will be almost 90% producing and/or acquiring its own vaccines that will really hack the EU off, perhaps time for them to work with us instead of against us.
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07/04/2021 10:47:28 38 7
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No chance Ms Van Rental will agree to this.
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07/04/2021 11:03:37 10 13
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perhaps time for you to remember WW2 is over and time for UK to stop its tantrums with EU.
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07/04/2021 11:10:12 6 2
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There are a lot of people in the EU. They really need to get their own production sorted out. Diverting the UK production to the EU might help a bit but it's not the solution to their requirements.
07/04/2021 19:23:20 0 0
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Why will it hack the EU off is some third world country is doing something?
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07/04/2021 10:30:15 46 11
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Great that we have more vaccines available but do we really need yet another HYS on this subject?

Surely we could discuss far more important issues?
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07/04/2021 10:36:11 15 4
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There is literally nothing to say other than 'awww, that's nice init x'... Or 'Cool.. Just so long as it is safe'.
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07/04/2021 10:31:58 4 18
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This afternoon the EMA will announce that there is a causal link for blood clots with certain age/gender groups taking the AZ vac (pre-announced yesterday). The MHRA will have to follow suit otherwise the regulation world will be thrown into disarray.

This Moderna vac may be the answer. We have waited a year, a few months longer is not a problem.
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LBW
07/04/2021 10:36:26 11 2
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How the hell do you know
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07/04/2021 10:38:46 1 2
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Their vac expert trailed it yesterday. Same as our Govt do when an announcement is due.
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07/04/2021 10:31:58 4 18
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This afternoon the EMA will announce that there is a causal link for blood clots with certain age/gender groups taking the AZ vac (pre-announced yesterday). The MHRA will have to follow suit otherwise the regulation world will be thrown into disarray.

This Moderna vac may be the answer. We have waited a year, a few months longer is not a problem.
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07/04/2021 10:37:00 8 2
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You get blood clots even if you don’t have the vaccine. Project fear by the media.
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07/04/2021 11:10:37 1 1
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Not always. For some people - albeit a few, the risks may be too great. For those with blood clotting issues, lupus, autoimmune diseases where their immune system attacks blood cells, it's NOT SO SIMPLE.
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07/04/2021 11:33:35 0 3
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A bit like "don't kill granny" - even though the virus has a 99% survival rate the media paint it as the biggest killer ever and turned everyone into paranoid agoraphobic hypochondriacs.
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07/04/2021 12:20:55 0 0
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True, but some people's risk is higher than others.
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07/04/2021 10:33:07 158 23
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The government has done a good job on procuring these vaccines, so rather than give them a salary increase this year can we all clap for them instead?
The procurement of PPE has been a good earner for them. They paid 10x the real price. Plenty of scope for kick backs there. Removed
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07/04/2021 10:40:06 18 20
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Proof or left wing rumour?
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07/04/2021 11:03:06 2 4
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So cynical.
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07/04/2021 11:36:53 14 8
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There was plenty of scope for you to supply PPE. Did you? Or do you just sit at your keyboard regurgitating rubbish?
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07/04/2021 12:34:33 5 3
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Not sure why ordinary people would vote this down; the facts are out there after all! But I suspect those voting it down are from the Tory Bot Propaganda Factory.
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 3 13
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Great to hear Moderna now an option.

I'm a little concerned by rates of about 1 in 80,000 of rare clotting in Holland and Germany after using AZ vaccine in younger people.
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07/04/2021 10:40:39 1 5
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BBC and other mainstream media don't seem to want to cover such issues.

Perhaps they don't want to spook the population.
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07/04/2021 10:41:32 2 2
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My wife had a blood clot with the AZ Vac, and she is not in the younger group.
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07/04/2021 10:46:25 6 1
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If women are on the pill, they have 1 in 100 chance of blood clots but know one is causing a panic over this fact.
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07/04/2021 11:34:36 1 1
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Boris said it's ok, so I guess it must be. He wouldn't ever lie. Would he?
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07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
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Soon to be the blood clot nation.
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 33 2
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You certainly fit into the bracket of being a 'clot'.
Thank you to all scientists who created Pfizer, Moderna and Sputnik V . Thank you for saving lives and getting world back to a new, better normal as we are much wiser, more appreciative, more life loving people, now.
Thank you Russia and America.
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07/04/2021 10:42:49 5 5
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As if you would allow that Russian thing anywhere near your body. Have you forgotten Salisbury already?
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07/04/2021 11:08:08 2 0
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Another Moscow poster I presume ?
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07/04/2021 12:26:16 2 0
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I'm sure Alexei Navalny doesn't agree with that sentiment.
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07/04/2021 10:27:19 6 30
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Oh, so now people can get the more effective vaccine. Bad luck for the people who've already had the less effective Oxford one.
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07/04/2021 10:41:20 7 2
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They all work the same, produce IgG neutralising antibodies to the SARS cov 2 binding protein
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LBW
07/04/2021 10:58:40 0 2
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Dear oh dear
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07/04/2021 13:56:11 0 1
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So what job do you have in medicine / vaccine production then?
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07/04/2021 10:29:14 17 8
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Great news another vaccine is available to bring us out of the lockdowns safely. Also encouraging how high the uptake has been.
Big thanks to our NHS workers and also all the volunteers helping to distribute the vaccine around the UK. Heroes one and all
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07/04/2021 10:37:52 23 8
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Also the government for great forward thinking.
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07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
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Soon to be the blood clot nation.
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07/04/2021 10:38:16 22 3
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Rubbish. Go back to France.
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LBW
07/04/2021 10:36:26 11 2
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How the hell do you know
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07/04/2021 10:38:46 1 2
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Their vac expert trailed it yesterday. Same as our Govt do when an announcement is due.
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07/04/2021 10:39:28 7 7
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The EU should use U-boats to stop them getting to Britain!
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07/04/2021 11:27:33 0 0
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What ?
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07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
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Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
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07/04/2021 10:40:31 15 4
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Tin foil hat at the ready.
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07/04/2021 10:43:33 5 2
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So, 82% of people had absolutely nothing wrong with them. Cool.

Can't wait to get my 2nd jab. Cheers!
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07/04/2021 10:46:24 7 1
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"This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free."

Spoken like someone who hasn't had the Oxford jab. Nearly all vaccines produce a response, they are training your immune system.
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07/04/2021 10:49:22 2 0
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If by 'needed medical attention' you mean something more than taking a dose or two of paracetamol over the couple of days following vaccination, can you please actually provide a link to the trial data showing this 18% figure? Put like that it does sound worrying.
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07/04/2021 10:49:54 3 0
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What a load of unadulterated tripe!
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07/04/2021 10:51:27 1 2
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You can all have a look for yourself at how lovely this particular vaccine is https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2035389
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07/04/2021 11:02:56 0 0
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CLOT.
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07/04/2021 11:43:12 0 0
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Source? I bet it's not a reputable one.
The procurement of PPE has been a good earner for them. They paid 10x the real price. Plenty of scope for kick backs there. Removed
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07/04/2021 10:40:06 18 20
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Proof or left wing rumour?
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07/04/2021 10:50:20 25 18
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They paid £12.5bn for £2.5bn worth of PPE at 2019 prices.

eg. Gowns £4.50 each instead of 33p.
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07/04/2021 10:52:22 8 20
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Exactly. Like Rees Moggs son at Oxford Uni (not), his Hedge fund in Belgium (not). They talk from a lower orifice.
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07/04/2021 10:55:45 24 12
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It's been confirmed that companies recommended by MPs were given priority, and that several of the companies that were selected, at the very least poorly, were significant party donors or friends of ministers. That PPE was overpaid for, or companies that couldn't provide the product properly were selected is also widely documented.

Kick backs? Maybe, maybe not, but bare minimum its incompetence.
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07/04/2021 11:00:21 16 5
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Ask Handcocks local pub landlord.
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07/04/2021 10:29:44 46 14
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Johnson & Johnson is currently the one I am more weary of, there are reports of some major side effects but so true. UK pretty much proving how to vaccine right
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07/04/2021 10:40:28 9 3
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This a joke? Look at the safety data from Moderna phase 3 trial - horrific side effects.
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07/04/2021 10:46:43 7 0
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Side effects dont seem much different to any jab for any illness
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07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
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Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
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07/04/2021 10:40:31 15 4
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Tin foil hat at the ready.
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07/04/2021 10:44:03 2 11
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Rather than spouting the same old nonsense, do yourself a favour and Google the safety data of this vaccine yourself. Absolutely no way will this vaccine ever be given full approval.
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07/04/2021 11:50:32 1 4
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Standard reply from people that don't or are unable to think for themselves. Good luck, you are going to need it in life as it gets evermore restricted by our "We are just flattening the curve" Government..12 months on....still the same...12 months time....probably the same or worse...and still people won't see they are slowly, step by step, removing our freedoms and liberties until its too late.
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 3 13
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Great to hear Moderna now an option.

I'm a little concerned by rates of about 1 in 80,000 of rare clotting in Holland and Germany after using AZ vaccine in younger people.
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07/04/2021 10:40:39 1 5
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BBC and other mainstream media don't seem to want to cover such issues.

Perhaps they don't want to spook the population.
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07/04/2021 10:46:17 6 1
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You’re actually ON the BBC website commenting on a story you say the BBC won’t run ?
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07/04/2021 10:47:02 3 2
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Correction BBC news covered it for 5 mins last night, realty is any vaccine or drug (inc paracetamol) can cause issues the numbers are extremely low and at present no one knows if people affected have any history or that they are on other medication.
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07/04/2021 11:10:51 0 0
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Perhaps you just chose to miss that news item
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07/04/2021 10:29:54 13 3
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Good news and with Novavax potentially not far behind hopefully the vast majority of the country will be vaccinated soon
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07/04/2021 10:40:43 19 34
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And why would that matter? Even if we had 100% of people vaccinated we would STILL be under restrictions, STILL have to wear poxy masks all the time, and STILL not be able to travel. Is there actually a point anymore?

I give up
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07/04/2021 10:47:32 6 2
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As cases drop restrictions are lifted.
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07/04/2021 11:22:34 5 7
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We may live in a vaccinated country but once we venture outside there is all sorts we can bring back. When the vast majority of countries are safer then is the time to lift restrictions. Caution is the watch word as I for one don't want to have to go back into lockdown just because restrictions are lifted too early.
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07/04/2021 11:23:11 2 1
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Nope. Call Samaritans.
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07/04/2021 11:31:57 2 4
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Thank goodness. Perhaps now you can stop spouting uneducated nonsense.
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07/04/2021 10:27:19 6 30
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Oh, so now people can get the more effective vaccine. Bad luck for the people who've already had the less effective Oxford one.
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07/04/2021 10:41:20 7 2
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They all work the same, produce IgG neutralising antibodies to the SARS cov 2 binding protein
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07/04/2021 10:41:22 444 54
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Infinitesimal risk of a blood clot from the AZ vaccine. Had my 1st shot last week & without doubt would take it as a second dose - happy days.

Go read the list of possible side effects on any headache tablet in your bathroom cabinet then tell me you won't ever take one of those again. Yeah right.
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07/04/2021 10:45:35 300 22
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You hit the nail on the head with you comment!

People don’t think twice about plane journeys even though the risk of blood clots is considerably higher. And women taking the contraceptive pill are also at greater risk.
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07/04/2021 10:51:41 15 44
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Headache tablets are not only approved for emergency use.
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07/04/2021 10:59:57 4 52
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"go read" - cringe
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07/04/2021 11:01:24 77 6
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One in a million chance of severe reaction to the flu jab, one in 2.5 million chance of severe reaction to the AZ jab. I’m happy to have both.
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07/04/2021 11:01:50 7 86
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But I supposed that the EU had said it for political reasons. So the EU is right. Az gives blood clots.
Why didn't the uk gov informed us before.
By the way the EU has been using Moderna since day 1
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07/04/2021 11:04:13 14 58
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The vaccine roll out has been a staggering success.

Good on the government for going with the extended gap between doses and not playing politics just because Tony Blair was the first to champion that proposal.

I know TB turned down a knighthood after retiring as PM but surely he'll be offered one again for this triumph.
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07/04/2021 11:06:47 15 8
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Good for you but my GP thinks the second jab might be risky for me. Everyone is different and has different health profiles...
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07/04/2021 11:07:36 7 111
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Rather you than me. Yes I want the vaccine but if I don't get a choice I will walk out.
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RG
07/04/2021 11:21:57 6 39
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You're ok...so far. You have no idea of the long term side effects.
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07/04/2021 11:24:04 2 33
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You won't convince anyone with that argument. To paraphrase:
Have the vaccine; for the vulnerable group 1 in 150,000 of you will die, OR
Don't have the vaccine and let everyone else have it; risk to you is nil and you still get the benefits.
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07/04/2021 11:26:02 6 37
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Oh knowledgeable one, can you explain then why british studies looking at the vaccines impact on younger people has stopped their study on this news.

And also if the UK is halting some work on this does that mean the EU wasn't being political with the AZ vaccine?
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07/04/2021 11:26:40 30 2
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Well said. The chance of getting dying from Covid is 5000 time greater than dying from a blood clot. The chance of dying from Covid is 0.02%
Every medicine has side effects that affect some more than others.
Medicines are only authorised when the benefits far, far greater than any side effects
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07/04/2021 11:40:46 9 21
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Yes, but how would you feel if you didn't have a headache had zero chance of getting a headache but government still wanted to force you to to take an experimental pill just to make others feel better. This is what is happening to our children
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07/04/2021 11:51:32 13 0
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Spot on.
I take daily meds for Epilepsy.
If you read the possible side effects you would not touch them.
Risks then ...... unthinkable , less life than I have now.
Keep taking the tablets
Keep taking the vaccine can't wait for my second shot.
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07/04/2021 11:53:28 5 7
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But the risk for young people of taking the vaccine is becoming greater than the risk of Coronavirus.

More aged under 30s people have now died from the blood clots, than young people under 30s (with no existing conditions) died from Covid19.
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07/04/2021 11:58:38 2 1
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Prothrombotic Thrombocytopenic disorder will only arise in a healthy responsive immune system that identifies the toxin and will do anything to prevent it reaching the brain. If you tap in the AZ vaccine code 1423474 you will discover exactly what youve been infected with.
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07/04/2021 12:01:21 3 2
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There is a risk, that cannot be disputed. People have different biology's, medication regimes with side effects, medical conditions that are not CV19, etc.... To deride people being cautious and pressurise them into vaccination, so that others can feel safe, is wrong on so many levels. People will die, as healthier people lecture about the small risk. Personal choice needs to be paramount.
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07/04/2021 12:03:22 1 0
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been saying exactly that for months.
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07/04/2021 12:10:18 4 2
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Blood clots are nothing new in life.

Next.
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07/04/2021 12:13:19 1 5
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It was nice knowing you.
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07/04/2021 12:23:05 6 0
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Can people stop quoting blanket statistics please? I will no doubt take whatever vaccine is offered to me BUT I'd like to know if there is a greater chance of something happening e.g. a blood clot, happening to me given I'm a young female who has been on the pill for 10+ years. My risk of dying from covid MIGHT be lower than my risk of taking the vaccine, and I believe I have a right to know.
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07/04/2021 12:24:02 2 1
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"Go read the list of possible side effects on any headache tablet"

precisely
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07/04/2021 12:24:19 3 1
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Everything has a risk to it - glad you understand the risk and took the vaccine as it’s clearly the correct thing to do ??
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07/04/2021 12:30:57 0 4
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Wow, the propaganda war is going well!

I just honestly can't see any ordinary person rushing onto HYS to write this.

Let's face it who wants to hear from an ordinary person on matters of science anyway?!
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07/04/2021 12:27:01 1 1
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That thing called choice..
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 3 13
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Great to hear Moderna now an option.

I'm a little concerned by rates of about 1 in 80,000 of rare clotting in Holland and Germany after using AZ vaccine in younger people.
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07/04/2021 10:41:32 2 2
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My wife had a blood clot with the AZ Vac, and she is not in the younger group.
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07/04/2021 10:45:33 1 2
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My wife was very ill after the AZ vaccine. She spent 3 days in bed, didn't eat for 2 of those days, had a terrible migraine, and nausea. She is in the younger higher risk group for clotting so she's nervous about her 2nd jab.
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07/04/2021 11:08:07 0 0
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How is she now?? I really would like to know because my GP has contacted me about the second jab and it's risks, because of my medical condition....
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07/04/2021 10:41:48 4 13
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Blood clots........Another smokescreen, yes they are probably happening in relatively small numbers pro-rata, which makes it easier for experts to justify benefit/risk....but whilst everyone get's wrapped up in the blood clot issue, the other serious side effects are not being publicized or highlighted.
40
07/04/2021 10:44:00 7 1
bbc
Like what?
99
07/04/2021 10:47:18 1 0
bbc
What are they?
34
07/04/2021 10:42:09 288 40
bbc
Pfizer has the same number of "severe reactions" as AZ... both statistically insignificant. Yet, the propaganda war against AZ continues.
51
07/04/2021 10:46:27 123 9
bbc
Stupid politics or brown envelopes?
75
07/04/2021 10:51:09 45 1
bbc
Guess which one is being made available on a not-for-profit basis.
122
07/04/2021 11:00:52 2 6
bbc
Severe ????
123
07/04/2021 11:01:21 10 39
bbc
Pfizer is not associated with blood clots as far as I know. The propaganda seems to come from you.
145
07/04/2021 11:05:54 7 0
bbc
Yes, they all carry some level of risk and it's up to the individual to weigh the risk/benefit ratio, which is not the same for everyone.
151
07/04/2021 11:07:07 24 4
bbc
Astra Zeneca is non profit unlike Pfizer,is British linked. I may be sceptical but are Europe jealous of the number vacinated and could the over zealous so called worrying news about the AZ vacine be something commercially driven?
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07/04/2021 11:36:23 26 0
bbc
I have no problem with the AZ vaccine, I have had it and so have many of my relatives some of who work in the NHS. However according to the UK Yellow Card reporting system only AZ has the association with blood clots. What is never reported by any of the media as far as I can see is that the oral contraceptive carries a risk of clots in 5-7 per 10,000 cases compared to 1 per 600,000 for AZ vaccine
641
07/04/2021 12:32:09 1 7
bbc
Wow, the propaganda war is going well!

I just honestly can't see any ordinary person rushing onto HYS to write this.

Let's face it who wants to hear from an ordinary person on matters of science anyway?!
894
07/04/2021 13:32:31 1 2
bbc
Sulk started the propaganda war for AZ; too much political capital invested to do anything but keep pushing it like his end of year bonus depended on it.
07/04/2021 14:36:40 0 0
bbc
So you have the data for these Pfizer "severe reactions"?
07/04/2021 18:31:53 0 0
bbc
Makes you wonder. The crap that AZ have had to take from the irrational Eu countries is surprising. They could make it at a profit rather than cost. They cold also pull stumps once current contracts have been met to said countries in the same spirit of " Enough! @$8* the lot of you." There may then be some squealing from a certain machine bureaucracy.
Thank you to all scientists who created Pfizer, Moderna and Sputnik V . Thank you for saving lives and getting world back to a new, better normal as we are much wiser, more appreciative, more life loving people, now.
Thank you Russia and America.
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07/04/2021 10:42:49 5 5
bbc
As if you would allow that Russian thing anywhere near your body. Have you forgotten Salisbury already?
60
07/04/2021 10:48:14 0 2
bbc
To be fair, it worked very well !
8
07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
bbc
Soon to be the blood clot nation.
36
07/04/2021 10:43:13 20 2
bbc
People get blood clots. The fact that they had the vaccine could be just a coincidence. But what ever way you look at it you are more likely to win the lottery than get a blood clot from the vaccine
47
07/04/2021 10:45:43 18 2
bbc
31 in 3M, You actually have more chance dying in a car crash on your way to get a vaccine than blood clot.
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Bob
07/04/2021 10:53:12 5 1
bbc
or the fact they were probably on something else at the time.

Contraceptive pills for example have been linked to blood clots for years.
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07/04/2021 11:12:28 2 0
bbc
I would suggest you do the research. A doctor in the US died from a clot because of an underlying condition with his blood cells - and those people with similar conditions should take care. Not everyone is the same.
37
07/04/2021 10:43:28 148 20
bbc
I just hope if gives people a sense of safety and security. All we want is to get back to a sense of “normal” life. I’m young (36) and had the AZ vaccine without hesitation.
It’s literally more than a 1 in a million chance of getting a blood clot.
I didn’t get the vaccine for myself, I got it for everyone else.
52
07/04/2021 10:46:43 68 8
bbc
?? good for you!
67
07/04/2021 10:49:54 4 17
bbc
I'm the same age and will be having it so I can go on holiday again. Literally the only reason.
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Bob
07/04/2021 10:51:53 8 3
bbc
I think there is nearly 0% chance of getting a blood clot if you are healthy 36 and not on contraceptive pills.
121
07/04/2021 11:00:42 9 22
bbc
Thanks for having it for me......such a hero
142
07/04/2021 11:05:12 5 10
bbc
I did the same and had my first jab but now am in discussions with my GP because I have conditions that could make me higher risk, now the AZ jab has been proven to have a connection with blood clots. It's not the same for everyone.
209
07/04/2021 11:16:15 2 3
bbc
Nearer 1 in 150,000 for the vulnerable groups.
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RG
07/04/2021 11:25:09 3 7
bbc
So brave
418
07/04/2021 11:54:28 6 6
bbc
I applaud you for your virtue signalling.
450
07/04/2021 12:02:02 2 2
bbc
Top Human Being!

Thank you1
878
07/04/2021 13:27:42 2 0
bbc
How have you had a vaccine already if your only 36, still waiting for mine in my 40s
999
07/04/2021 13:57:07 0 0
bbc
It will not stop you transmitting.
7
07/04/2021 10:30:15 46 11
bbc
Great that we have more vaccines available but do we really need yet another HYS on this subject?

Surely we could discuss far more important issues?
38
07/04/2021 10:43:33 7 3
bbc
Like Harry and Meghan
572
07/04/2021 12:20:18 3 0
bbc
Who are they?
24
07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
bbc
Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
39
07/04/2021 10:43:33 5 2
bbc
So, 82% of people had absolutely nothing wrong with them. Cool.

Can't wait to get my 2nd jab. Cheers!
46
07/04/2021 10:45:40 1 3
bbc
Erm no, that's 18% had grade 3 systemic adverse events. 80% had grade 1 or more.
33
07/04/2021 10:41:48 4 13
bbc
Blood clots........Another smokescreen, yes they are probably happening in relatively small numbers pro-rata, which makes it easier for experts to justify benefit/risk....but whilst everyone get's wrapped up in the blood clot issue, the other serious side effects are not being publicized or highlighted.
40
07/04/2021 10:44:00 7 1
bbc
Like what?
27
07/04/2021 10:40:31 15 4
bbc
Tin foil hat at the ready.
41
07/04/2021 10:44:03 2 11
bbc
Rather than spouting the same old nonsense, do yourself a favour and Google the safety data of this vaccine yourself. Absolutely no way will this vaccine ever be given full approval.
42
07/04/2021 10:44:23 3 33
bbc
WOW, lucky Welsh, at least you can have a chance to avoid a jab of the UK Oxford AZ vaccine that could cause a deadly blood blot - horrified !!!
58
07/04/2021 10:47:36 7 4
bbc
You must have had AZ then as you are a massive clot, Oh sorrysorrysorry Blot, You can't spell
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07/04/2021 10:48:23 3 0
bbc
Wow the hysteria ramping up today. If you're worried about a less than 1 in a million chance then you better just give up on life now. There are hundreds of risks most people face every day with higher chances than that.
89
07/04/2021 10:55:31 1 0
bbc
Please .. the risk is minimal and no more than . Flying. Taking the contraceptive pill. Enough of the hysteria. My goodness how do you get through the day with this hysteria and anxiety?
115
07/04/2021 11:00:11 1 0
bbc
I see you have a" blot" over you
idiot Removed
728
07/04/2021 12:47:51 1 0
bbc
Conspiracy clown
43
07/04/2021 10:45:12 323 44
bbc
Scandalous too that certain UK media seem to be gleefully doing their very best to undermine trust in the UK-developed AZ vaccine, which has undoubtedly played a major part in bringing down the Covid figures since the January peak in this country. Lockdown will undeniably have had some impact, but the game-changer has been vaccine. Compare the EU.
Calm down. It is just being investigated for your and mine safety. Nothing wrong with it. I know it hurts your English pride as it is your baby but it is all about human lives and they are sacred. Be patient. All will be good and well.
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07/04/2021 10:59:00 54 9
bbc
All to do with profit - AZ supply it at cost, the others for profit. Hence a campaign against AZ.

Always follow the money.
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07/04/2021 11:05:07 28 92
bbc
The EU has been using moderna since day one. The EU was right about Az blood clots. The EU vaccine rollout is accelerating the Uk's is slowing down. The EU will get J&J next week. It needs one jab only.
The Uk has not even approved it yet.
The wind has changed
The EU exported 77 million vaccines abroad. The Uk zero.
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07/04/2021 11:37:51 30 2
bbc
Sadly in the UK we have some of the most toxic press and media organisations imaginable. They routinely undermine this country and the people, big time. I believe in freedom of the press, but question the 'fitness for purpose' of some organisations.
417
07/04/2021 11:54:19 1 17
bbc
Its not safe for young people. The risk of taking the vaccine is greater than the risk of Covid.
432
07/04/2021 11:57:46 4 2
bbc
You'd have the opposite opinion if they never referenced it at all, something like "scandalous that the media would bury the risk of blood clots blah blah!"

So scandalous that we should be informed of a potential risk don't ya know? Its almost as if that's what the news is for!
That will be the Guardian. Which has about 1/0th the circulation of the Mail. It is only a small left wing minority hate their country. Most of us support it. Just watch Labour flop at the next GE. Removed
637
07/04/2021 12:31:35 2 3
bbc
Wow, the propaganda war is going well!

I just honestly can't see any ordinary person rushing onto HYS to write this.

Let's face it who wants to hear from an ordinary person on matters of science anyway?!
820
07/04/2021 13:10:51 2 2
bbc
All vaccines carry some risks and some will be more risky for one group and some for another. We need to know which is which and who needs which and provide the right vaccine to the right set of patients accordingly. Why would anyone have a problem with that? Scandalous that anyone would want to get in the way of that information coming to light.
32
07/04/2021 10:41:32 2 2
bbc
My wife had a blood clot with the AZ Vac, and she is not in the younger group.
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07/04/2021 10:45:33 1 2
bbc
My wife was very ill after the AZ vaccine. She spent 3 days in bed, didn't eat for 2 of those days, had a terrible migraine, and nausea. She is in the younger higher risk group for clotting so she's nervous about her 2nd jab.
165
07/04/2021 11:09:03 2 0
bbc
Is she on the pill? Have a conversation with your GP. Not scaremongering but everyone should weigh their own personal risks based on their individual medical issues.
305
07/04/2021 11:35:22 0 1
bbc
Then she shouldn't have it. FGS when will people learn to say no?!
31
07/04/2021 10:41:22 444 54
bbc
Infinitesimal risk of a blood clot from the AZ vaccine. Had my 1st shot last week & without doubt would take it as a second dose - happy days.

Go read the list of possible side effects on any headache tablet in your bathroom cabinet then tell me you won't ever take one of those again. Yeah right.
45
07/04/2021 10:45:35 300 22
bbc
You hit the nail on the head with you comment!

People don’t think twice about plane journeys even though the risk of blood clots is considerably higher. And women taking the contraceptive pill are also at greater risk.
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07/04/2021 11:15:15 33 2
bbc
Thanks NFHH. Honestly, just think this is causing unnecessary panic & I've taken time to read & listen to enough of the science to understand there's virtually no risk to the vast majority of us hence the fact that when it's offered I'll take my 2nd AZ vaccine without question.
39
07/04/2021 10:43:33 5 2
bbc
So, 82% of people had absolutely nothing wrong with them. Cool.

Can't wait to get my 2nd jab. Cheers!
46
07/04/2021 10:45:40 1 3
bbc
Erm no, that's 18% had grade 3 systemic adverse events. 80% had grade 1 or more.
36
07/04/2021 10:43:13 20 2
bbc
People get blood clots. The fact that they had the vaccine could be just a coincidence. But what ever way you look at it you are more likely to win the lottery than get a blood clot from the vaccine
47
07/04/2021 10:45:43 18 2
bbc
31 in 3M, You actually have more chance dying in a car crash on your way to get a vaccine than blood clot.
28
07/04/2021 10:40:39 1 5
bbc
BBC and other mainstream media don't seem to want to cover such issues.

Perhaps they don't want to spook the population.
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07/04/2021 10:46:17 6 1
bbc
You’re actually ON the BBC website commenting on a story you say the BBC won’t run ?
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07/04/2021 11:11:33 1 3
bbc
The 1 in 80000 ratio experienced in both Holland and Germany has widely gone unreported.

Never seen any reporting of the fact AZ vaccine still has not been approved in the US. There's a lot of anti EU sentiment and flag waving which I consider is blinding people to the facts at hand.

Let's put it this way, if there is a problem with AZ vaccine, my guess is the UK will be the last to accept it.
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07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
bbc
Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
49
07/04/2021 10:46:24 7 1
bbc
"This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free."

Spoken like someone who hasn't had the Oxford jab. Nearly all vaccines produce a response, they are training your immune system.
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07/04/2021 10:37:26 3 13
bbc
Great to hear Moderna now an option.

I'm a little concerned by rates of about 1 in 80,000 of rare clotting in Holland and Germany after using AZ vaccine in younger people.
50
07/04/2021 10:46:25 6 1
bbc
If women are on the pill, they have 1 in 100 chance of blood clots but know one is causing a panic over this fact.
34
07/04/2021 10:42:09 288 40
bbc
Pfizer has the same number of "severe reactions" as AZ... both statistically insignificant. Yet, the propaganda war against AZ continues.
51
07/04/2021 10:46:27 123 9
bbc
Stupid politics or brown envelopes?
891
07/04/2021 13:31:31 3 0
bbc
Here? Both
07/04/2021 14:13:56 2 0
bbc
Pfizer costs 10 times the price of the AstraZeneca vaccine, is that the reason the AstraZeneca is being rubbished by some and much of the media?
A large amount of money at stake if non AstraZeneca vaccines are promoted.
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07/04/2021 10:43:28 148 20
bbc
I just hope if gives people a sense of safety and security. All we want is to get back to a sense of “normal” life. I’m young (36) and had the AZ vaccine without hesitation.
It’s literally more than a 1 in a million chance of getting a blood clot.
I didn’t get the vaccine for myself, I got it for everyone else.
52
07/04/2021 10:46:43 68 8
bbc
?? good for you!
26
07/04/2021 10:40:28 9 3
bbc
This a joke? Look at the safety data from Moderna phase 3 trial - horrific side effects.
53
07/04/2021 10:46:43 7 0
bbc
Side effects dont seem much different to any jab for any illness
54
07/04/2021 10:46:52 56 6
bbc
It is great we have another vaccine available.
However there are lots of risks for blood clots in our lives
Flying, the contraceptive pill, Covid 19, being in hospital. All have a known higher risk than any possible vaccine linked risk.
We need to look at risk against all factors. All drugs have side effects. Many things we do in our lives have risks. Let's us look at all vaccines sensibly.
66
07/04/2021 10:49:52 30 47
bbc
you forgot to add not everybody actually needs the jab to 'survive'.
133
07/04/2021 11:03:28 6 1
bbc
The risks for healthy people are low but if you have certain conditions, not so much. It's a personal choice.
28
07/04/2021 10:40:39 1 5
bbc
BBC and other mainstream media don't seem to want to cover such issues.

Perhaps they don't want to spook the population.
55
07/04/2021 10:47:02 3 2
bbc
Correction BBC news covered it for 5 mins last night, realty is any vaccine or drug (inc paracetamol) can cause issues the numbers are extremely low and at present no one knows if people affected have any history or that they are on other medication.
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07/04/2021 11:14:19 0 0
bbc
It's a mistake and foolish imo to compare the risks of a new novel vaccine type (AZ is known as a DNA vaccine type) that has never been approved before with paracetamol or the pill.
See this white paper from Moderna before the pandemic started:

https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/RNA_Vaccines_White_Paper_Moderna_050317_v8_4.pdf
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07/04/2021 10:35:28 53 14
bbc
Going forward into 3-4Q uk will be almost 90% producing and/or acquiring its own vaccines that will really hack the EU off, perhaps time for them to work with us instead of against us.
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07/04/2021 10:47:28 38 7
bbc
No chance Ms Van Rental will agree to this.
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:11:29 4 9
bbc
Still in the playground, are we?
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07/04/2021 10:40:43 19 34
bbc
And why would that matter? Even if we had 100% of people vaccinated we would STILL be under restrictions, STILL have to wear poxy masks all the time, and STILL not be able to travel. Is there actually a point anymore?

I give up
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07/04/2021 10:47:32 6 2
bbc
As cases drop restrictions are lifted.
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07/04/2021 10:51:40 11 6
bbc
Believe it when I see it.
283
07/04/2021 11:30:53 5 10
bbc
Yet here we are, with restrictions lifted and replaced with another set of restrictions. It's an illusion!
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07/04/2021 10:44:23 3 33
bbc
WOW, lucky Welsh, at least you can have a chance to avoid a jab of the UK Oxford AZ vaccine that could cause a deadly blood blot - horrified !!!
58
07/04/2021 10:47:36 7 4
bbc
You must have had AZ then as you are a massive clot, Oh sorrysorrysorry Blot, You can't spell
07/04/2021 18:32:27 1 0
bbc
Is this necessary? Instead of debunking his claims about the statistical insignificance of the blood clots you just straight up insult him? Strategies like this doesn't get people changing their mind on a subject.

Also, calling someone out for poor spelling whilst your name is 'Scuicidebadger' makes you out to be a bit of a hypocrite.

Have a nice day.
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07/04/2021 10:47:56 5 15
bbc
Death for 'Any Reason' within 28 days of +test= Covid death
Death within 28 days of a jab= Natural causes or underlying health condition.
101
07/04/2021 10:58:02 0 0
bbc
I expect you blame Liverpool losing last night on covid.
342
07/04/2021 11:40:13 0 0
bbc
And switch around for the anti vax narrative.
35
07/04/2021 10:42:49 5 5
bbc
As if you would allow that Russian thing anywhere near your body. Have you forgotten Salisbury already?
60
07/04/2021 10:48:14 0 2
bbc
To be fair, it worked very well !
42
07/04/2021 10:44:23 3 33
bbc
WOW, lucky Welsh, at least you can have a chance to avoid a jab of the UK Oxford AZ vaccine that could cause a deadly blood blot - horrified !!!
61
07/04/2021 10:48:23 3 0
bbc
Wow the hysteria ramping up today. If you're worried about a less than 1 in a million chance then you better just give up on life now. There are hundreds of risks most people face every day with higher chances than that.
62
07/04/2021 10:48:35 55 9
bbc
If this insignificant risk causes them to pull AZ, then we will really be in for that predicted baby boom when you look at the contraceptive pill's rate.
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07/04/2021 11:29:52 61 5
bbc
AZ is getting appalling bias against it.

Why are the risks with Pfizer and Moderna not being publicised too?

Then compare with risks from the flu vaccine, Paracetamol, the contraceptive pill and many many others.
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:34 2 19
bbc
Stay away from this one
93
07/04/2021 10:56:20 2 0
bbc
Because? What’s your professional knowledge of these vaccines and provide evidence of your qualifications.
95
07/04/2021 10:57:00 1 0
bbc
"You keep that one Nic and let the rest of us get on with taking ours".
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07/04/2021 10:57:30 1 0
bbc
Why??
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07/04/2021 11:02:42 2 0
bbc
Why?
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:45 1 17
bbc
This is the worst one of them all
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07/04/2021 10:50:29 10 0
bbc
How do you know?
24
07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
bbc
Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
65
07/04/2021 10:49:22 2 0
bbc
If by 'needed medical attention' you mean something more than taking a dose or two of paracetamol over the couple of days following vaccination, can you please actually provide a link to the trial data showing this 18% figure? Put like that it does sound worrying.
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07/04/2021 10:46:52 56 6
bbc
It is great we have another vaccine available.
However there are lots of risks for blood clots in our lives
Flying, the contraceptive pill, Covid 19, being in hospital. All have a known higher risk than any possible vaccine linked risk.
We need to look at risk against all factors. All drugs have side effects. Many things we do in our lives have risks. Let's us look at all vaccines sensibly.
66
07/04/2021 10:49:52 30 47
bbc
you forgot to add not everybody actually needs the jab to 'survive'.
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07/04/2021 10:58:54 8 4
bbc
Like playing Rusian roulette then?
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:13:31 7 0
bbc
Your comment is not sensible, because:
a) vaccination does more than help you survive. It protects against long-covid.
b) vaccination does more than help you survive. It helps others survive.
c) vaccination normally helps reduce the incidence of mutations that are even worse.

My comment is not sensible because you will ignore it.
07/04/2021 18:36:22 0 0
bbc
Whilst that is true with the survival rates being estimated 99% to 2sf, these vaccines help prevent you becoming a vector which allows this virus to mutate into something potentially much worse and far less discriminatory.

At the end of the day, it's a personal choice so whether you choose to get the vaccine or not so do whatever you feel most comfortable with.
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07/04/2021 10:43:28 148 20
bbc
I just hope if gives people a sense of safety and security. All we want is to get back to a sense of “normal” life. I’m young (36) and had the AZ vaccine without hesitation.
It’s literally more than a 1 in a million chance of getting a blood clot.
I didn’t get the vaccine for myself, I got it for everyone else.
67
07/04/2021 10:49:54 4 17
bbc
I'm the same age and will be having it so I can go on holiday again. Literally the only reason.
730
07/04/2021 12:48:50 2 2
bbc
Me, me, me!
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07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
bbc
Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
68
07/04/2021 10:49:54 3 0
bbc
What a load of unadulterated tripe!
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07/04/2021 10:50:02 252 22
bbc
Please take on board the following:
The AZ vaccine is safe. Safer than the flu vaccine, safer than taking the pill, safer than flying. Safer than catching covid.
Blood clots happen. Get over that and get the jab.
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07/04/2021 10:56:02 60 86
bbc
If you want it, have it, if you don't, don't....simple.
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07/04/2021 11:02:24 16 3
bbc
It's not that simple IF you have a particular condition - like autoimmune disease, which I have. Having such puts you at higher risk of antibodies attacking your blood eg and I already have low platelets and other red-flag markers. One size does not necessarily fit everyone remember!
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07/04/2021 11:18:11 9 5
bbc
Ok, blood clots happen, then you die. Get over that if you can.
Vaccination is always safest if everyone but you gets the jab, that's the problem.
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RG
07/04/2021 11:24:04 12 32
bbc
No one under 50 needs a vaccine for this virus.
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07/04/2021 11:14:21 4 8
bbc
No.
421
07/04/2021 11:55:06 4 24
bbc
Its not safe. That is why regulators are banning it for under 50s.

How much science do you want to ignore.
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:01:35 12 2
bbc
Because it's a particularly rare type of clot, it may well be down to the vaccine. However, that doesn't mean it isn't still a good idea to take the vaccine; you are more likely to die of Covid if you delay than a clot if you don't.
539
07/04/2021 12:11:35 3 3
bbc
The possible long-term side effects of all Covid vaccines have not been examined as clinical trials were curtailed. Neither have possible interactions with other medications a person is already taking. So I will not be getting a vaccine, no matter how much pressure the government and vaccine zealots put on the public.
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nic
07/04/2021 12:16:39 1 3
bbc
Erm no
644
07/04/2021 12:32:24 1 4
bbc
Wow, the propaganda war is going well!

I just honestly can't see any ordinary person rushing onto HYS to write this.

Let's face it who wants to hear from an ordinary person on matters of science anyway?!
Removed
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07/04/2021 13:50:29 2 2
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people have a choice. Have the jab or don't have the jab. If don't and they get Covid then pass away, at least the gene pool is improved.
07/04/2021 14:51:32 1 0
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No!
07/04/2021 14:43:25 1 0
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I'm starting to wonder if you really are a professor at all.
07/04/2021 14:51:16 1 0
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Says who? The scientists that developed it and claim it's the best thing since sliced bread! Let's wait and see!
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07/04/2021 10:50:11 31 9
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Yet another vaccine, this is great. there is no reason, bar medical, to not get the jab when offered. I have had mine and no problems. Just a serious case of headache, but given before now I have been physically ill and lose the ability to feel heat. Azs has surprised me by not reacting the way I thought I would have. Thanks to all who have helped with the vaccine
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07/04/2021 10:54:16 17 49
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Reason for not wanting jab......How about 40% don't get any symptoms anyway.
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07/04/2021 12:13:59 5 5
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Why anyone would want a vaccine against a virus with in excess of 99% survival rate is beyond me.

At this stage, Covid has become a religion hasn't it?
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:18:51 7 3
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I had a horrible reaction to the AZ jab. High fever, violent shivers and shakes, pain all over and the worst headache of my life. Took about 60 hours to recover. Still plan to get my second jab and would not hesitate to make the same decision again about my first. People need to understand the covid risk is more than risk of death.
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CT
07/04/2021 12:43:24 2 3
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The vacine is ONE way to reduce the virus outbreak.
The government could show a stronger mettle by enforcing testing and ventilation at workplaces. A working track and trace system would also be of benefit.
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Bob
07/04/2021 13:44:52 1 2
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I'm 29 and have had Covid - That's a reason not to want the jab
25
07/04/2021 10:40:06 18 20
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Proof or left wing rumour?
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07/04/2021 10:50:20 25 18
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They paid £12.5bn for £2.5bn worth of PPE at 2019 prices.

eg. Gowns £4.50 each instead of 33p.
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07/04/2021 11:39:22 5 4
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This is what happens when demand exceeds supply, 68 countries started restricting PPE exports in March 2020. PPE costs trebled overnight, as did the cost of air freight, because so many jets were grounded. At the height of the crisis in China, the government was buying virtually all the medical supplies, that Chinese companies produced, and withheld exports.
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:45 1 17
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This is the worst one of them all
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07/04/2021 10:50:29 10 0
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How do you know?
94
07/04/2021 10:56:46 1 1
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I expect he read it in the Beano.
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07/04/2021 10:30:18 13 115
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Soon to be the blood clot nation.
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07/04/2021 10:42:41 11 3
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Tin foil hat in the post?
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07/04/2021 10:45:12 323 44
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Scandalous too that certain UK media seem to be gleefully doing their very best to undermine trust in the UK-developed AZ vaccine, which has undoubtedly played a major part in bringing down the Covid figures since the January peak in this country. Lockdown will undeniably have had some impact, but the game-changer has been vaccine. Compare the EU.
Calm down. It is just being investigated for your and mine safety. Nothing wrong with it. I know it hurts your English pride as it is your baby but it is all about human lives and they are sacred. Be patient. All will be good and well.
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07/04/2021 10:57:58 41 6
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50million plus doses in the UK alone and suddenly it's a big issue.

Yeah, right. This is the media having a field day.
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07/04/2021 10:58:49 48 2
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Please note: the UK is not the same as 'England'. 'British' is not the same as ‘English'.
Go back to France. Removed
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Ian
07/04/2021 11:15:42 15 2
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Not the point that was being made and you kinda proved the point that was.
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07/04/2021 11:29:28 9 45
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Brexiters have a very feagile ego.
They prefer to be lied. Az is not that fantastic and they cannot stand that pfizer biontech because it is German EU -American and made by turkish scientists.
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07/04/2021 11:41:22 22 1
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"Calm down. It is just being investigated for your and mine safety"

Of course it is .... presumably none of the millions of people vaccinated with Pfizer / Moderna etc have ever developed blood clots ?

If nobody has developed blood clots this is abnormal ... if they have then they need to be investigated with the same rigour as the Astra Zeneca vaccination.
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:00:32 5 2
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Fine to investigate, but not to pause vaccination in the general population whilst doing it. Delays cause more additional Covid deaths than would die of clots. You could potentially make an argument for pausing vaccination of those with low platelet count, for now, until it's determined whether that's cause or effect. But even that would need to be weighed against the vaccine's benefits.
It's triggered the flagsha55ers something awful. Even the anti-vaxxers amongst them are out fighting on it's behalf. Weird bunch. Removed
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07/04/2021 12:27:16 3 0
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Its manufactured in Wales, as well as England. Prynhawn da.
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07/04/2021 10:42:09 288 40
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Pfizer has the same number of "severe reactions" as AZ... both statistically insignificant. Yet, the propaganda war against AZ continues.
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07/04/2021 10:51:09 45 1
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Guess which one is being made available on a not-for-profit basis.
07/04/2021 21:26:17 0 0
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My thoughts exactly
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07/04/2021 10:39:29 9 30
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Absolutely scandalous that this vaccine is being given to an age group with a 99.99% covid survival rate. Check the phase 3 trial data for yourself - 18% of participants needed medical attention or hospital admission after dose 2. This vaccine floors people for days who would be covid symptom free.
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07/04/2021 10:51:27 1 2
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You can all have a look for yourself at how lovely this particular vaccine is https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2035389
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07/04/2021 11:08:07 5 1
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Have you actually had a look at what Grade 3 classes as?

Use of Pain Relievers required, i.e. Paracetamol
or
Discomfort at rest i.e. sore arm whilst sitting down
or
Redness over 10cm around the injection site

Grade 4 (of which no case were reported)
ER Visit required or hospitalization.

So basically, mild symptoms can occur as per every other vaccine every given.
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07/04/2021 11:11:39 1 0
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I suspect its % based on proportion of side effects, no way is 18% of total people taking this vaccine ending up in hospital, hospitals would be overwhelmed even more than with covid.

For example, if 0.5% experience side effects and of those 18% needed hospital care then its miniscule.
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07/04/2021 10:47:32 6 2
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As cases drop restrictions are lifted.
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07/04/2021 10:51:40 11 6
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Believe it when I see it.
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07/04/2021 11:37:44 3 1
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You just promised that you were giving up.
674
07/04/2021 12:38:55 0 0
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Don't give up, we will get freedoms back or else just go underground and do what we want anyway. People smugglers will be smuggling us out to the Costa's! Fake vaccine passports anyone?
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07/04/2021 10:41:22 444 54
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Infinitesimal risk of a blood clot from the AZ vaccine. Had my 1st shot last week & without doubt would take it as a second dose - happy days.

Go read the list of possible side effects on any headache tablet in your bathroom cabinet then tell me you won't ever take one of those again. Yeah right.
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07/04/2021 10:51:41 15 44
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Headache tablets are not only approved for emergency use.
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SP
07/04/2021 10:51:46 205 31
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Covid kills 1 in 8 of people above 75

And kills 1 in 1000 of people above 40

And covid affects 1 in 3 by long term neurological issues

Don't ignore any vaccine even if it's proven to affect 1 in million

Do some risk analysis. Don't fall in to vaccine scare stories
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07/04/2021 11:00:40 31 28
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Fair enough but if you have a medical condition that moves you up higher up the risk list, it's a different matter.
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07/04/2021 11:08:13 8 3
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Go back and take a second look at your stats.....they are way out.
1 in 60000 =40's and that's with associated c19, not direct. (ie U H C )
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:03:18 1 1
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Still a bit early to describe covid effects as long-term. But certainly there are persistent issues.
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07/04/2021 12:17:23 9 2
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Your figures are a bit off there my friend. 12.5% of over 75s aren't dying from this otherwise the death toll would be much higher. Keep your exaggerations to yourself.
666
07/04/2021 12:36:49 2 1
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Perhaps you should do an age analysis of those suffering from the blood clots? Is the figure then still 1 in a million?
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07/04/2021 13:54:07 2 3
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But fall into scare stories about a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to know you have it, and so deadly that over 99% of people are mostly unaffected?

The vaccine is unnecessary.
kh
07/04/2021 14:12:05 2 2
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Government policy is what is creating the neurological issues.
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07/04/2021 10:43:28 148 20
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I just hope if gives people a sense of safety and security. All we want is to get back to a sense of “normal” life. I’m young (36) and had the AZ vaccine without hesitation.
It’s literally more than a 1 in a million chance of getting a blood clot.
I didn’t get the vaccine for myself, I got it for everyone else.
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Bob
07/04/2021 10:51:53 8 3
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I think there is nearly 0% chance of getting a blood clot if you are healthy 36 and not on contraceptive pills.
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dan
07/04/2021 11:11:39 7 23
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there is also a statistically 0% chance of you dying of Covid
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07/04/2021 10:46:07 4 11
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I am by no means anti-vaccination, but one does wonder about longer term side effects given how rapidly these drugs were developed and used on the general population. After 1 year, 2 years, 10? How can we possibly know when these vaccines were developed using entirely new genetic processes?
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07/04/2021 10:58:54 3 3
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Long term side effects from Covid-19 are far worse than a minimal vaccination risk
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LEO
07/04/2021 10:59:50 1 0
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A whole Continent vaccinated in one day - with the Chinese Vaccine.

Miss Jones of Antarctica had her Vaccine today.

Everything went well she said …. no more Covid ….. although she is now also sterilised !!!!
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07/04/2021 11:01:28 1 0
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You have a point but people are dying. What is the alternative? We don't have a decade to test the drugs thoroughly.

From over two 2000 daily deaths to mere 20. Obviously it seems to be working. I wouldn't vaccinate kids though.
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07/04/2021 11:04:47 1 0
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It is the same with any treatment for any condition. Long term effects may happen but you also don't know whether you might get cancer or get hit by a bus so why worry. If you want to wait 10 years to make sure these vaccines don't have side effects then crack on but don't blame anyone if you succumb to the lurgy
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07/04/2021 11:31:01 1 0
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Vaccines don’t work that way, they simply stimulate an immune response and are very unlikely to have any long term side effects.
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07/04/2021 11:39:27 1 0
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Stick to the AZ one then, it is a much more conventional vaccine with much more conventional side effects.

Not that any vaccine hangs around for long, drug side effects are mainly from long term use.
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07/04/2021 10:40:06 18 20
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Proof or left wing rumour?
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07/04/2021 10:52:22 8 20
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Exactly. Like Rees Moggs son at Oxford Uni (not), his Hedge fund in Belgium (not). They talk from a lower orifice.
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07/04/2021 11:47:08 4 1
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His Hedge fund is in Dublin.??????
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07/04/2021 10:43:13 20 2
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People get blood clots. The fact that they had the vaccine could be just a coincidence. But what ever way you look at it you are more likely to win the lottery than get a blood clot from the vaccine
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Bob
07/04/2021 10:53:12 5 1
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or the fact they were probably on something else at the time.

Contraceptive pills for example have been linked to blood clots for years.
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07/04/2021 11:12:58 1 0
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Yes, so if you have a jab, might that not increase your risk further?
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07/04/2021 10:53:19 3 2
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So let's assume there is a possible risk of blood clots, then why don't the medical people state that the risk is elevated if you have x, y or z. Those people get a blood test or something else that is required prior to the AZ jab? or simply put them on the Pfizer list?
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07/04/2021 10:59:46 2 1
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You make very good points. I am in discussions with my GP about this very thing. I have lupus, which causes sticky blood and antibodies which might put me at risk (with low platelets) so I am taking my time over the decision and may need tests. I had the first jab with no issues but might have just been lucky with that! Pfizer is no use to me because I also have allergies though.
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dan
07/04/2021 11:17:06 1 0
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Because they dont know yet, 'vaccines' are still under trial!
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07/04/2021 10:50:11 31 9
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Yet another vaccine, this is great. there is no reason, bar medical, to not get the jab when offered. I have had mine and no problems. Just a serious case of headache, but given before now I have been physically ill and lose the ability to feel heat. Azs has surprised me by not reacting the way I thought I would have. Thanks to all who have helped with the vaccine
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07/04/2021 10:54:16 17 49
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Reason for not wanting jab......How about 40% don't get any symptoms anyway.
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07/04/2021 11:03:38 7 7
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For now but you know the virus is strengthening by the day with new variants popping out.
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07/04/2021 11:04:13 4 2
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Well no one is forcing you to have the vaccine
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07/04/2021 11:09:21 12 7
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Most people don't have a car crash but wear a seat belt & have insurance. Both totally pointless things that you will probably never need but there is the chance. Mitigation of risk. Also you may be asymptomatic & potentially be a 'murderer' wandering around spreading potential death. If you can live with that then don't have the jab
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07/04/2021 11:19:33 2 2
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Name that 40%?
252
07/04/2021 11:23:30 6 1
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Doesn't mean that 40% can't be infected and infect others.
406
07/04/2021 11:52:28 5 9
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Shocking isn't it? that this deadlu virus has the compassion to cause no illness in 1/3 of those that it infects! And 99.97% recovery rate for the under 70s... Very very deadly though, so definately get injected with experimental untested technologies as soon as possible! Wonder how many will end up in hospital in the autumn/winter who have had both jabs, and still test positive for covid?
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07/04/2021 10:54:42 131 29
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The vaccination rollout in the UK has been outstanding.

Macron et al in the E.U. made a real mess of theirs
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07/04/2021 10:56:17 53 158
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It is not a competition. Assume you voted Brexit?
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TBM
07/04/2021 11:00:18 22 16
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Not true. Some EU states have done very well in their vaccine rollout.
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07/04/2021 12:40:39 6 8
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OK, you make this comment on every vaguely CV19 topic, but this has nothing to do with this topic, has it?!

The Tories for once let the NHS get on to do what it is brilliant at; pity it didn't leave PPE procurement and test & trace to the NHS, instead they hived it off to their mates to make billions out of us!!
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07/04/2021 13:07:44 4 4
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What isn't outstanding is how the UK pandemic was handled in the early days, and premature easing of restrictions last summer / autumn. 5th highest death toll in the world (the highest in Europe*). 12th highest deaths per 1M population.

This can't be swept under the carpet - those responsible should be held to account.

*waiting for some daft beggar to say the UK isn't in Europe because Brexit..
925
07/04/2021 13:40:43 2 1
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""Macron et al in the E.U'' so you believe the propaganda that the UK press have sold you......so sad really ...
955
07/04/2021 13:47:48 1 2
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Another Brit bashing the EU, nothing to see here.
07/04/2021 19:17:21 0 1
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Yeah well done Boris, giving half the country a faulty vaccine, which both the USA and the EU pointed out could be faulty.
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07/04/2021 10:54:55 80 15
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Follow the money.

AZ supplied at cost, no profit motive. Other vaccines sold at marked-up prices for profit.

Capitalist campaign to undermine AZ.
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07/04/2021 11:04:12 14 63
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A/Z were given big investment bung by gov

Back door payment to keep the price low

Pharms don't do it for nothing the research costs are too high are
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:07:19 8 1
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I don't think it is a capitalist campaign. Rather it is a bunch of politicians who didn't source enough vaccines to keep their populations happy, misinterpreting and misusing data in order to deflect and distract from their own shortcomings.
690
07/04/2021 12:38:05 0 5
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1st dose at cost, 2nd dose is not at cost.
07/04/2021 19:19:36 0 0
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Yet they charged the UK, 7 times what they charged the EU, someone’s making a profit...
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07/04/2021 10:55:02 85 16
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The risk of the AZ Vax is so tiny that it's almost negligible but the media seem so focused on possible side effects that it will no doubt discourage people from having it.

If I didn't already know most news outlets have no scruples I'd say they had an agenda.
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SH
07/04/2021 11:01:38 18 31
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The media has been responsible for creating the anxiety behind peoples opinion of the AZ vaccine overseas
The problem is generally that any death due to complications is an unacceptable risk from a vaccine which is meant to prevent death. Try explaining to a family that their loved one who never had the virus but died as a result of a reaction to the vaccine that that person was an acceptable loss
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07/04/2021 11:06:17 1 12
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News outlets are reporting news. I suppose you would prefer censorship of the news you don't like. It is you who have an agenda, not them.
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07/04/2021 12:45:52 6 2
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The science will eventually show how small the risk is, not ignorant comments from the public on social media!
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07/04/2021 10:44:23 3 33
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WOW, lucky Welsh, at least you can have a chance to avoid a jab of the UK Oxford AZ vaccine that could cause a deadly blood blot - horrified !!!
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07/04/2021 10:55:31 1 0
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Please .. the risk is minimal and no more than . Flying. Taking the contraceptive pill. Enough of the hysteria. My goodness how do you get through the day with this hysteria and anxiety?
25
07/04/2021 10:40:06 18 20
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Proof or left wing rumour?
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07/04/2021 10:55:45 24 12
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It's been confirmed that companies recommended by MPs were given priority, and that several of the companies that were selected, at the very least poorly, were significant party donors or friends of ministers. That PPE was overpaid for, or companies that couldn't provide the product properly were selected is also widely documented.

Kick backs? Maybe, maybe not, but bare minimum its incompetence.
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07/04/2021 12:32:43 4 1
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I suppose I should add that I have no evidence of kick backs. But it has been a great opportunity for well connected people to earn a handsome commission. Leave that for journalists to dig into.
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07/04/2021 10:50:02 252 22
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Please take on board the following:
The AZ vaccine is safe. Safer than the flu vaccine, safer than taking the pill, safer than flying. Safer than catching covid.
Blood clots happen. Get over that and get the jab.
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07/04/2021 10:56:02 60 86
bbc
If you want it, have it, if you don't, don't....simple.
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07/04/2021 11:17:05 2 12
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Exactly.

My life is my universe.
Your life is your universe.

Non off us will ever meet.
So I care not if you lot die, just as you lot wouldn't care if I died.

Peace and Freewill.
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07/04/2021 12:47:00 4 2
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It's not all about 'you'!
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07/04/2021 10:54:42 131 29
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The vaccination rollout in the UK has been outstanding.

Macron et al in the E.U. made a real mess of theirs
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07/04/2021 10:56:17 53 158
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It is not a competition. Assume you voted Brexit?
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07/04/2021 11:06:11 41 23
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No it is not, however if the boot was on the other foot, the chorus of remainer jibes would be deafening
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07/04/2021 11:11:32 36 17
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Whats brexit got yo do with his comment, nothing mentioned your obviously insecure
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07/04/2021 11:16:58 33 5
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It may not be a competition but iam sure your happy that you live in the UK at this time?
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07/04/2021 11:06:59 40 12
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We are doing so much better than them, what's wrong with pointing that out ?? does the health of this country not matter to you ? .

Assume you vote remain ?
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07/04/2021 11:37:03 36 9
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They made it a competition, by incessantly attacking the Uk and deliberately conflating AZ with the Uk. It the old trope of creating a conflict with someone to cover up for domestic failures.
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07/04/2021 11:52:35 29 13
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£50 says you'd be on here waving your EU flag if we was at the bottom doing badly with vaccines.
You know I'm right??
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VoR
07/04/2021 12:05:13 25 4
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I didn't (I voted Remain and still believe Brexit was a colossal mistake), but in this case, I agree with him. The UK vaccine rollout has been very good. The European ones have been very poor. My European medical colleagues who advise us are unanimous in their view that the suspension of the AZ vaccine was politically driven rather than medically driven.
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07/04/2021 12:05:23 7 3
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The 'it is not a competition line' gets rolled out a lot these days. We even had panellists on BBC R4 using that one when pressed to praise the programme.

There were lots of comparisons trotted out at the start of the pandemic when the UK was slow to act, but now we are turning it around, apparently it is no longer cricket.

I hope the EU-philes remember this when and if the tide turns again.
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07/04/2021 12:14:47 9 0
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It isn't a competition but if by having it faster you are saving more lives then yes speed is the critical point.
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07/04/2021 12:55:32 4 6
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No its not a competition but we should never trust the EU again on anything
We need to be completely independent for vaccines and PPE we dont need their spite
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07/04/2021 13:26:37 0 1
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Assume you didn’t!
07/04/2021 14:21:54 0 0
bbc
They made a hash of the whole thing...

I voted Remain
07/04/2021 14:23:59 1 1
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Just stating facts I believe it matters not a jot who they voted for if at all it seems your the one with a chip on ya shoulder time to stop trolling and grow up
07/04/2021 15:31:46 1 0
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Assume you didn't ??
07/04/2021 17:32:47 1 0
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Well even if he or she did, its turned out to be a shrewd one based on where we would have been with an EU vaccine procurement policy. And it is a competition... one to protect as many lives as fast as possible... one we are winning.
07/04/2021 18:45:22 2 0
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This comment really isn't necessary. Anyone worth their salt knows this isn't a competition, however that doesn't mean people are prevented from making comparisons between the UK's progress and the EU's progress.

Also, what does Brexit have to do with this? You just look like you're out here trying to start a pointless argument and by the looks of the responses has worked out poorly for you.
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:34 2 19
bbc
Stay away from this one
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07/04/2021 10:56:20 2 0
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Because? What’s your professional knowledge of these vaccines and provide evidence of your qualifications.
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07/04/2021 10:50:29 10 0
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How do you know?
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07/04/2021 10:56:46 1 1
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I expect he read it in the Beano.
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:34 2 19
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Stay away from this one
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07/04/2021 10:57:00 1 0
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"You keep that one Nic and let the rest of us get on with taking ours".
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07/04/2021 10:57:26 4 3
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All this talk of the dangerous side effects is scare mongering. Have these people banging on about the dangers ever read the possible side effects of taking paracetamol, aspirin and ibuprofen - the 3 most common painkillers or what happens if you have to take a morphine prescription as I do. Just get over yourselves the risk is tiny. Let's get back to the way we were.
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07/04/2021 11:08:50 3 1
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It is news not "scare mongering". People are entitled to have the facts on any medicine or vaccine, and make their own decision.
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07/04/2021 11:19:51 1 0
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My risk is NOT tiny. I have lupus with sticky blood, antibodies that can attack my blood cells and cause either bleeding or abnormal clotting. It's not so simple for everyone and if you are healthy and don't have this problem, no need to be smug.
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07/04/2021 10:57:28 1 2
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I am glad that there is now another vaccine in this battle. The AZ vaccine is under scrutiny and no matter how much they try to reassure people, there will always be doubt in some people's minds now. It's no good just quoting stats - as there are people who have rare diseases that may predispose them to the risk of clotting to start with. One size does not fit all in this situation!
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07/04/2021 11:29:54 0 1
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Think it’s a case of take what your offered or it’s back of the queue for you.
Vaccines are in short supply so if you wish to pick and choose be prepared for a long wait.
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nic
07/04/2021 10:41:34 2 19
bbc
Stay away from this one
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07/04/2021 10:57:30 1 0
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Why??
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07/04/2021 10:41:48 4 13
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Blood clots........Another smokescreen, yes they are probably happening in relatively small numbers pro-rata, which makes it easier for experts to justify benefit/risk....but whilst everyone get's wrapped up in the blood clot issue, the other serious side effects are not being publicized or highlighted.
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07/04/2021 10:47:18 1 0
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What are they?
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07/04/2021 11:46:22 0 0
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For me two days in bed / chair zonked with flu like. Not great, but probably less bad than real CV. The days zonked out may even explain the extreme minority clot issue.

Pretty much as expected really but denying there are some ill effects is only making space for anti-vax nutters.

So be ready for a few days of being ill, don't plan anything much, and hope you are not ill.
Calm down. It is just being investigated for your and mine safety. Nothing wrong with it. I know it hurts your English pride as it is your baby but it is all about human lives and they are sacred. Be patient. All will be good and well.
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50million plus doses in the UK alone and suddenly it's a big issue.

Yeah, right. This is the media having a field day.