Covid-19: Few people with symptoms are self-isolating, study finds
01/04/2021 | news | health | 775
And fewer than one in five people request a test if they have symptoms, a report on test-and-trace says.
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01/04/2021 09:41:19 37 2
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Is this a surprise to anyone?
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01/04/2021 09:58:36 35 14
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Not when statuary sick pay isn't enough to feed your family - doesn't surprise me at all.
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01/04/2021 09:58:58 9 6
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No. Not with the government we have at present.
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01/04/2021 10:25:59 6 4
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to TommyAtkins3114

£37bn taxpayers’ money blown with little to show. Wow.

Alan Clarke replied:
Public money transferred into the pockets of Tory party donors. Objective achieved.

twinbob2 replied:
Have you any proof of that and if so,so what?

Yes, below
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/01/29/firm-owned-by-a-tory-donor-who-is-dido-hardings-colleague-wins-5-9-million-in-government-covid-19-deals/
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01/04/2021 09:42:28 69 11
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The way to solve issues like low levels of self isolation is to first try and find facts (like with this study), then be pragmatic in finding solutions and to challenge those with authority to make positive action.

We don't throw petty blame and insults at others, however wrong they are, as this is weak and only fuels divisions and those who exploit them.
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Stu
01/04/2021 09:44:58 7 54
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Ever though your thinking gives them excuses?

part, and a major one, of thee problem not solution.

Leave the thinking to others!
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01/04/2021 09:46:17 9 4
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One of the most level-headed comment I've read with regards to this pandemic. If only everyone could think in this way we would be in a much better position!
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01/04/2021 10:01:41 8 0
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But if somebody is wrong. Just plain wrong, we should say so.
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01/04/2021 10:18:55 7 1
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The last survey found only 8% broke isolation to go to work.

A far larger number were to socialise with friends or family.

As the phrase goes, with friends like that, who needs enemies.
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M12
01/04/2021 10:35:03 6 0
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I'm reminded of the gas mask analogy. If you believed there was a poisonous gas outside, you wouldn't need the threat of criminal sanctions to put on your gas mask - there would be 100% compliance.
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01/04/2021 10:38:20 4 2
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Absolutely. Fix problems, not blame. We need to be pragmatic & seek solutions that will actually work rather than ones that fuel our own self-righteousness!
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01/04/2021 09:42:37 50 12
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Unfortunately systems can only try to be foolproof ... it's impossible to make them idiotproof.
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jon
01/04/2021 10:03:31 17 7
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This is not empirical evidence, merely opinions based on surveys. Something is clearly working compared with France where the pandemic is out of control and hospital ICU’s overwhelmed. Most likely a combination of lockdown and vaccine roll-out.
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01/04/2021 10:04:10 3 8
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Like the amount of idiots I keep seeing wearing masks outside despite government advice that it's unnecessary.

Words fail me!
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01/04/2021 10:16:49 2 11
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Especially when it appears that idiots came up with the idea of pointless lockdowns in the first place.
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01/04/2021 09:42:49 146 31
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Oh ffs people...

It's this kind of stupidity that demoralises the hell out of those of us who actually follow the rules and want to get rid of the virus so we can get on with our lives... we will never get over this if no one actually does what they are supposed to
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01/04/2021 09:46:38 71 46
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Are you willing to pay them then? How are they meant to live if they can't go to work? Not everyone gets help.
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01/04/2021 09:50:20 21 11
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"we will never get over this if no one actually does what they are supposed to"

This is a bit misleading given that what people are supposed to do has been decided quite arbitrarily. Perhaps for these people they feel the pressure to work is so high their family's health is in danger. It isn't all black and white and that's what makes it tricky.
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01/04/2021 10:03:32 22 3
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Get rid of the virus ?

Never going to happen....it's here forever.
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01/04/2021 10:04:05 17 6
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You clearly still don't get it were never getting rid of the virus get on with your life
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01/04/2021 10:26:42 0 1
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I would agree with you, but I don't believe this report truly reflect real life
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01/04/2021 10:21:22 1 1
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We will get out of it because what's going on is unsustainable, and eventually governments will be forced to behave sanely again.

In fact the more this madness hurts, the less likely it is to ever be repeated, which is one small blessing that might come out of this.
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01/04/2021 10:41:32 1 4
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I was following the rules until I saw the actions of Dominic Cummings and Stanley Johnson.
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01/04/2021 10:48:08 1 1
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Listen to science, covid is here to stay
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01/04/2021 13:06:08 0 1
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The government simply had no idea how the poorer people in our community live, Mrs May did at least acknowledge the existence of JAMS, did they really think these people were going to make their position worse?
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01/04/2021 09:43:13 163 4
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I find the figures in this report incredible. How do less than half of people know what the Covid symptoms are?
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:46:37 5 24
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Doesnt sound true does it, more nudge theory from no 10 and earth worm Jim Whitty
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Bob
01/04/2021 09:57:05 11 1
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I tried to tell those people but they probably couldn't hear me over all their coughing.
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GH
01/04/2021 09:59:11 28 5
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Because the avg person is dim and there’s another 50% that are even dimmer.
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01/04/2021 09:47:02 7 29
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Because the government has failed spectacularly
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01/04/2021 10:10:47 9 0
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Population of selfish thikos.
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01/04/2021 10:23:40 13 6
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I don’t. Huge swathes of the population don’t follow news or track down facts, whether because they’re too lazy or find it too depressing, especially if it doesn’t coincide with their own view of the world.

That’s how we end up with the government we have.
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01/04/2021 11:52:09 1 0
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No-one ever got it wrong by underestimating the intelligence of the masses...
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01/04/2021 11:52:32 4 2
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I'd imagine there's a good chance that a large proportion of the results are due to the fact that English isn't their first language.

Anyone who does speak English and still claims they don't know what the main Covid symptoms are probably shouldn't be allowed out in public unsupervised anyway.
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01/04/2021 09:43:15 11 6
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There needs to be strict control when entering or leaving the country when we open back up...People should be holidaying in the UK anyway to contribute to the economy
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01/04/2021 09:56:15 2 6
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So you are happy to spread the virus only amongst uk citizens

I will send my money as I see fit and it won't be holidaying in uk

Oops I forget you probably think uk citizens holidaying in uk can't transmit or get infected
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01/04/2021 10:12:33 0 2
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Yes, we should spend what little money we have left to suit those who want to take it from us rather than on what we want/need.
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01/04/2021 10:18:39 0 2
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Dude, chill, stop panicking.
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01/04/2021 09:44:01 23 27
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I'm self employed. I cannot and will not self isolate unless I'm guaranteed to be compensated there and then.

You can't expect people to put themselves through any more hell unless you pay them.

It's as simple as that, so it is.
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01/04/2021 09:45:34 13 8
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You are right. Selfishness is a human trait!
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01/04/2021 10:00:17 3 2
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So if you are ill from any illness you would still work. If you self employed stamp you would get some help
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01/04/2021 10:17:57 0 1
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Absolutely right.
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02/04/2021 06:51:41 0 0
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Being self-employed I would have thought you'd have, and be able to claim on, your Income Protection insurance.
Exactly as if you hurt yourself and were unable to work for a few days.
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01/04/2021 09:44:30 10 3
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Covid Karens assemble!
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01/04/2021 10:13:36 2 0
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We're trying to demean people for the name they were given now? Really?
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01/04/2021 09:44:38 218 26
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Whilst the government have not been great for a lot of this pandemic, it's obvious that personal responsibility and civic duty has also been found wanting.

I have sympathy for those who cannot afford to isolate and do not have the option of working from home but I also feel that there have been some high profile examples of poor behaviour that have gone unpunished.
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01/04/2021 09:55:42 20 152
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Maybe come down off the fence mate - pick a side
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01/04/2021 10:02:03 18 49
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Easy for those on big salaries working from home to get in their high horse and criticise others for not isolating.

Workers who can't feed their families in statuary sick pay or small business owners struggling to stay afloat do not have a choice but to go to work.

It is the government's failing - not the individuals.
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01/04/2021 10:04:39 26 11
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This should come as a surprise to nobody.

Maybe next time the government will take advice from behaviour experts about human nature before gambling £37billion of taxpayer money on it.
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01/04/2021 10:07:00 17 37
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Ignorance works in your favour

If you know you have symptoms, or get a positive test result, you're legally put under enforced house arrest (for all intents and purposes)

Who wouldn't choose ignorance.

Less of the covid dictatorship would have encourage better personal responsibility and civic duty.
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01/04/2021 10:09:56 14 4
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What’s this, one nation, one people, one leader? I’ve seen that before, it doesn’t end well
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01/04/2021 10:15:44 33 7
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Just imagine how the UK could have reduced the number of lockdowns, deaths, unemployment and costs if everyone took a little bit more social responsibly during the pandemic.
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01/04/2021 10:19:42 7 24
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@" it's obvious that personal responsibility and civic duty has also been found wanting"

Civic duty and personal responsibility have not been allowed.

The government unilaterally took responsibility and dictated exactly how we must behave by law

We haven't been allowed to exercise personal responsibility

If responsibility had been GIVEN to the public, they would have exercised it.
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01/04/2021 10:28:10 5 0
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I'm not sure everyone understands the concept of civic duty, this country has been ruled by those with a me first attitude for too long. More people will self isolate if bribed to do so, this would be cheaper in the long run and we will return to some sort of normal life sooner.
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01/04/2021 10:40:06 0 1
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Are you thinking about Dom Cummings?
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02/04/2021 04:25:00 0 1
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Thats it Dick. I along with three other workers were not allowed to work from home even though we could. The owner actually threatened me with the sack when i questioned his policy.
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01/04/2021 09:44:44 84 23
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£37bn taxpayers’ money blown with little to show. Wow...

Imagine what that could have bought if invested in the NHS; potentially some enduring capacity that would help in the medium-long term ability to deal with CV-19, it’s variants and future pandemics.

Unbelievable.
Public money transferred into the pockets of Tory party donors. Objective achieved. Removed
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01/04/2021 10:54:58 2 5
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Write us a list of where that £37Bn has been "blown". I will put money on it that you can't. You won't even come close. Because you see ***£37Bn*** headline and stop reading, everything beyond that is what you get from Karen on Facebook.
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01/04/2021 11:51:11 3 2
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"£37bn taxpayers’ money blown "

You'll find only a fraction of that has been spent
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02/04/2021 20:42:02 0 0
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At this rate Test and trace will be almost as good value as HS2!
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01/04/2021 09:42:28 69 11
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The way to solve issues like low levels of self isolation is to first try and find facts (like with this study), then be pragmatic in finding solutions and to challenge those with authority to make positive action.

We don't throw petty blame and insults at others, however wrong they are, as this is weak and only fuels divisions and those who exploit them.
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Stu
01/04/2021 09:44:58 7 54
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Ever though your thinking gives them excuses?

part, and a major one, of thee problem not solution.

Leave the thinking to others!
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01/04/2021 09:48:36 20 1
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What did you say?
Leave the writing to others!
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01/04/2021 09:45:04 69 18
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No surprise but also, before we all pile in outrage, some sympathy as well. It's all very well for those of us in nice middle class bubbles, a tenured job and a larder full of pasta and polenta. I know many folk who work in the gig economy who would face penury and real problems getting support and basic provisions (i.e. food). The support was never enough, was late, and poorly communicated.
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01/04/2021 10:02:36 16 4
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Well said.
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01/04/2021 09:45:11 6 2
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But they'll all find someone else to blame.
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01/04/2021 09:45:13 29 8
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Test and trace has been poor but not sure we can blame them for general lack of common sense in the population.
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01/04/2021 10:27:39 4 8
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They worked out that the experts telling them that they all risked death had exaggerated by a factor of about 500. So it was common sense to ignore the doom merchants.
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01/04/2021 10:30:43 3 1
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to TommyAtkins3114

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£37bn taxpayers’ money blown with little to show. Wow.

Alan Clarke replied:
Public money transferred into the pockets of Tory party donors. Objective achieved.

twinbob2 replied:
Have you any proof of that and if so,so what?

Yes...
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/01/29/firm-owned-by-a-tory-donor-who-is-dido-hardings-colleague-wins-5-9-million-in-government-covid-19-deals/
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01/04/2021 09:45:17 48 16
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When people need to make money to pay for food and rent then what do you expect them to do?
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01/04/2021 09:47:36 30 37
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There is a whole scheme of self isolation payments for those whose incomes will be affected.
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01/04/2021 09:48:02 18 11
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I think most people on here expect them to starve.
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01/04/2021 10:31:09 4 1
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8% broke isolation to work in biggest nhs survey.

And not all because they needed the money, some just thought it didnt matter.

But as usual many jump on the usual bandwagons.

The message on isolation and 2, then 3 main symptoms has been clear and well publicised.

Ignorance an easy excuse.
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01/04/2021 09:45:20 14 4
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We'll happily go back to letting the flu killed 20,000 people a year because masks and washing hands and staying art home is too much trouble.
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01/04/2021 10:16:20 2 3
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Dude, people die. Especially the very old. And yet life goes on.

Get over it!
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01/04/2021 10:33:06 2 1
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Good and so we should with regard to masks and LD, I am not going through LD again just to stop that happening...its a function of life that people die...I do agree though that more work should be done to keep the improved hygiene measures (not just hand washing, but increased deep cleaning etc that is now basically mandatory in any public space/environment)
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01/04/2021 09:44:01 23 27
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I'm self employed. I cannot and will not self isolate unless I'm guaranteed to be compensated there and then.

You can't expect people to put themselves through any more hell unless you pay them.

It's as simple as that, so it is.
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01/04/2021 09:45:34 13 8
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You are right. Selfishness is a human trait!
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01/04/2021 09:50:01 2 5
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What's selfish about that?
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01/04/2021 10:14:08 0 1
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evac1973: Hopefully that is referring to yourself as well.
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01/04/2021 09:45:38 111 15
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Stop paying test and trace consultants several thousand pounds a day and pay those who can't afford to isolate instead.
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01/04/2021 09:48:32 40 10
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How do you identify those who need to isolate if you cannot test and trace?
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01/04/2021 09:53:09 7 6
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Hardly thousands of pounds per day even for the big wigs

Most are civil servants on regular wage and contractors on 250 to 500 per day
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01/04/2021 09:57:08 10 12
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Perhaps the unions should do something practical like paying their members to isolate or make difference up between sick pay and their wages. After all they are still taking their members fees. Perhaps they could make a goodwill gesture of refunding the fees. That would help some of the people who have lost out.
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01/04/2021 10:30:09 4 3
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forget the consultants its a red herring. Test and Trace does work very well if you follow the rules. I know from experience it works but it relies heavily on the cooperation of those who have tested positive. They do follow up, the do chase and they communicate effectively, but it only works if one is honest and follws the rule.
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01/04/2021 14:33:59 0 1
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Yep.
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01/04/2021 19:54:59 1 1
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Or shake the magic Tory money tree and pay them both, give NHS staff a raise while you're at it.
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01/04/2021 09:43:13 163 4
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I find the figures in this report incredible. How do less than half of people know what the Covid symptoms are?
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:49:55 35 21
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EU is handling vaccine roll wonderfully isn't it
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01/04/2021 09:51:21 24 29
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Good point ??
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01/04/2021 09:54:58 45 18
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Have you sought professional help for your obsession?
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01/04/2021 09:56:49 44 20
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Well done for shoe-horning Brexit into this one. Only a true remoaner could do that.
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01/04/2021 09:48:06 25 9
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And just like the referendum, the losers were the ones who decided not to participate.
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01/04/2021 10:01:23 37 16
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Shameless little Referendum dig there because the result wasn't what you wanted

More bitter than 100 lemons dipped in Sherbet aren't you
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01/04/2021 10:02:51 18 10
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Let it go, you lost
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01/04/2021 10:05:42 8 19
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That was precisely what I thought, you beat me to posting exactly that!
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01/04/2021 10:07:58 12 7
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Past the threshold of a psychiatric illness now and an obsession that requires treatment.
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01/04/2021 10:08:14 8 1
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So what are you saying about the other 48 percent?
Removed
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01/04/2021 10:35:13 5 6
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Judging by some of the responses, I think that your point is being validated.

Vote down if you think that there is a correlation between compliance with self-isolation rules and voting for Brexit.

Vote up if you think that those voting down don't have a sense of humour.
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01/04/2021 10:48:10 4 4
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Congratulations. You win today's "Shoe Horn Brexit Award". You should be proud.
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01/04/2021 13:56:26 3 2
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Surely you mean ‘given that 48% voted the way they.did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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02/04/2021 13:13:37 1 0
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and I know what day it is.
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01/04/2021 09:46:02 8 4
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If you threaten people with fines if they fail to self-isolate after a positive test it does not encourage people to take a test.

If someone has a positive test why would they give names of friends and family they have been with to test and trace and put them at risk of being fined?

Worse, someone could tell test and trace they have been with someone they haven't in order to bully/control them.
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01/04/2021 10:14:57 2 1
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"If you threaten people with fines if they fail to self-isolate after a positive test it does not encourage people to take a test."

A very sensible observation.

And if you then snitch on those you have met, you won't have many friends left.
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01/04/2021 09:46:02 32 4
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I'm a bit surprised the numbers getting tested are so low, but not the numbers isolating.

This confirms to me that the test, track and trace should have been public health authority/local community based right from the beginning, using existing expertise and resources as in many other countries, with support for isolating, rather than the commercial, jobs-for-mates extravagance we have seen.
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01/04/2021 10:02:22 7 8
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The govt is attributing the fall in cases to the vaccine. However, cases are much higher this time (x6) than they were last June/July when we were ending the first 3 month lockdown. What will they do in May when we're on the up again?
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01/04/2021 10:45:10 1 1
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If I feel unwell I retreat to my pit. I rarely go to a doctor unless I think I'm going to need medicine... & I doubt I'd go get tested either. What good would it do to hang a label on why I was feeling unwell (especially as I DO know what the symptoms of Covid are)? Wouldn't be going out, though.
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01/04/2021 09:42:28 69 11
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The way to solve issues like low levels of self isolation is to first try and find facts (like with this study), then be pragmatic in finding solutions and to challenge those with authority to make positive action.

We don't throw petty blame and insults at others, however wrong they are, as this is weak and only fuels divisions and those who exploit them.
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01/04/2021 09:46:17 9 4
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One of the most level-headed comment I've read with regards to this pandemic. If only everyone could think in this way we would be in a much better position!
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Pip
01/04/2021 09:46:20 16 6
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Is this really surprising, the result of our gig zero hour economy, if I don't work I don't eat or pay my rent. This isn't a small number of people this is a lot of people for whom there is little or no help..........?
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MVP
01/04/2021 09:46:28 9 9
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Many people think that the pandemic is over and have relaxed their behaviour.

We saw this last summer too with the government's disastrous "eat out to help out" which cost many lives.
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01/04/2021 09:47:49 10 12
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Any proof of that, or do you just like moaning?
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01/04/2021 09:51:34 2 5
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Cost many lives? Prove it.
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01/04/2021 09:43:13 163 4
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I find the figures in this report incredible. How do less than half of people know what the Covid symptoms are?
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01/04/2021 09:46:37 5 24
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Doesnt sound true does it, more nudge theory from no 10 and earth worm Jim Whitty
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01/04/2021 09:42:49 146 31
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Oh ffs people...

It's this kind of stupidity that demoralises the hell out of those of us who actually follow the rules and want to get rid of the virus so we can get on with our lives... we will never get over this if no one actually does what they are supposed to
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01/04/2021 09:46:38 71 46
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Are you willing to pay them then? How are they meant to live if they can't go to work? Not everyone gets help.
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01/04/2021 09:58:45 25 7
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I have been throughout as I've been working throughout and paying my taxes with no complaint
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01/04/2021 10:06:47 17 4
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You're correct, for some it's a significant issue, though i suspect that more than 1 in 5 would be able to isolate, without much financial impact, if they chose to.
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01/04/2021 10:13:09 18 10
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And if these people broke an arm or a leg, or any other temporary debilitating injury ?

Businessmen/small traders should be insured, others have to cope.

People should know the rules and all should obey.

Part of their civic duty.

Ignorance all too often a feigned excuse for willful civil disobedience.

Covid kills, disobeying isolation, especially after +ve test, is now a criminal act.
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01/04/2021 10:34:24 2 2
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your right my neighbours both died of covid maybe because people put money before health caused this ?
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01/04/2021 11:42:55 4 0
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I take it the ravers in manchester whent to the rave because they need money also. Most dont isolate because they are locked in to the selfish culture of me, me, me.
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01/04/2021 12:48:33 1 0
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Sick Pay!
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01/04/2021 14:33:42 0 1
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That is not what our glorious non-lying 'leader' says ?
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02/04/2021 18:16:44 0 0
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Well said you have hit the nail on the head.
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02/04/2021 20:41:12 0 0
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If people followed the rules then the number of cases would have shrunk to what you find in Singapore - then virtually no one would need to be compensated for doing the right thing.
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01/04/2021 09:46:53 13 7
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And yet the government will still be blamed.

The whole idea of self isolation especially if you yourself has tested positive is to prevent the spread.

But this kind of selfish attitude, I did not know it was so widespread.
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01/04/2021 09:47:09 7 5
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It really isn't surprising that people with mild symptoms - easily mistaken for common cold or hayfever - don't request a test or self-isolate. They have much to lose by doing so and NOTHING to gain.
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01/04/2021 09:49:45 6 3
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The gain the health of their loved ones and a quick return to normality.
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01/04/2021 10:13:20 2 0
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Very proud to say that when I had a good old fashioned cold a few weeks ago I didn't become a quivering snowflake and run to my nearest test centre. I just got on with my life, and had a few extra handkerchiefs to wash.

In big friendly pink letters: DON'T PANIC!
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01/04/2021 09:47:10 11 6
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The UK's levels of social compliance seem to have been much lower than other European countries throughout.
Perhaps it just filters down from the top.
The mixed messages, longer and harsher lockdown, government rule bending and general bamboozlement over why you can visit a crowded indoor shop but not stand in the middle of a field watching a local sports team ?
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01/04/2021 09:49:31 4 1
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Not just the 50 European countries but lower than most globally

No flag waving then
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01/04/2021 09:53:56 3 0
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Obviously because we Brits know best, we won't be told anything, instead of just doing it we have to challenge everything. Had we been grown up, (and fitter), we wouldn't have lost as many as we have.
It is no use blaming instructions, things didn't need qualifying, we should have done as told.
As for the rule bending by civil servants, I hope they will get their come-uppance at the debrief.
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01/04/2021 10:04:29 1 0
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It is very strange though that across Europe and parts of Scandinavia that countries that were seen as role models to us are now in a big mess.

With bars and restaurants still open, have these countries only themselves to blame now?

It can't just be down to the diabolical vaccine situation.
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01/04/2021 10:11:36 2 0
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Think you'll find France has been similar. Macron brought in curfews for Paris a couple of weeks ago, 2 days notice, so all the Parisiens sodded off to the rural areas. So, surprise surprise, as a result, yesterday he extended the curfews nationwide.
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01/04/2021 09:45:17 48 16
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When people need to make money to pay for food and rent then what do you expect them to do?
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01/04/2021 09:47:36 30 37
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There is a whole scheme of self isolation payments for those whose incomes will be affected.
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01/04/2021 09:55:06 11 3
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80% of claimants for which were rejected in parts of Wales.
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01/04/2021 10:04:24 9 3
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There isn't, that's the problem.
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01/04/2021 10:10:09 13 4
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JohnSmith: Oh come on, please be up to date with the news. There have been many people who have received absolutely NOTHING whatsoever over the past year to compensate them for loss of earnings. If they cannot provide properly for themselves and families then their situations are nothing but hell.

So get your facts right.
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01/04/2021 10:13:45 8 3
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Have you tried to claim on it? Easier said than done.
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01/04/2021 10:14:54 10 3
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Are you serious? You do know that the vast majority of the working population don't qualify for the payments - try actually looking into the qualifying rules before casting judgement
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JWG
01/04/2021 10:18:47 6 3
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Ignorance abound here in the I'm alright Jack finger pointing loons
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01/04/2021 10:24:43 3 3
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that pays out very little
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GS
01/04/2021 11:16:53 2 2
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I was a contractor in the Pharma industry. I'd had a month off in 4 years. Covid hit and I have had 6 months without work. Because of the setup of my business I was entitled to nothing other than delaying my income tax by 6 months. As a result I have given up contracting and taken a staff role to give me some security.
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MVP
01/04/2021 09:46:28 9 9
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Many people think that the pandemic is over and have relaxed their behaviour.

We saw this last summer too with the government's disastrous "eat out to help out" which cost many lives.
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01/04/2021 09:47:49 10 12
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Any proof of that, or do you just like moaning?
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01/04/2021 09:52:07 4 2
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It's a statistical thing, and correct.
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01/04/2021 09:47:52 8 6
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No, no, no!.... everything has to be BoJo's fault personally!
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01/04/2021 09:50:57 5 6
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bootlicker
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01/04/2021 10:00:09 2 1
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It is his fault he should have sacked cummings instantly. Everything changed after excuses were made for him and people were told never mind rules you should use common sense when deciding how far to travel. That incident was when it was clear there was one rule for us and another for them.
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01/04/2021 09:52:17 0 0
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Not at all.

But there's a lot that is.
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01/04/2021 09:45:17 48 16
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When people need to make money to pay for food and rent then what do you expect them to do?
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01/04/2021 09:48:02 18 11
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I think most people on here expect them to starve.
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01/04/2021 10:01:58 14 5
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Indeed. There seems to be a lot of folk here who cannot see beyond the end of their nose into other people's situations and motivations.
Yet they claim the moral high ground regardless.
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01/04/2021 11:50:36 3 1
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Hard to starve here with food so cheap. It takes stupidity to be paying a penny more for food than the value ranges from supermarkets. Yes I do expect them to do so. I do. If you have a garden at all grow potatoes, not decking or flowers or lawn. I am still eating ones I grew last year.
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01/04/2021 09:48:10 61 18
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Not at all surprised. Even if the Government compensated them for isolating, I'm guessing they would take the money and still work.
Then of course it's everyone elses fault when a loved one gets ill.
For some, going just what they want is a way of life.
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01/04/2021 09:59:55 34 17
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People cannot afford to take 2 weeks off work. If the Govt had have spent a fraction of the £37bn on compensating them then we would not have had to endure 8 months of lockdown in the past year.
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01/04/2021 10:01:50 12 6
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And yet, if you read the story, you'd have seen that the report found that most people only break self-isolation because they had no choice, and that is down to government policy, not to have prepared in previous years, and limit the help they've given now along ideological lines.
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01/04/2021 10:12:31 3 4
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" I'm guessing "

That's your problem.

Try not guessing and looking at facts.
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01/04/2021 09:44:44 84 23
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£37bn taxpayers’ money blown with little to show. Wow...

Imagine what that could have bought if invested in the NHS; potentially some enduring capacity that would help in the medium-long term ability to deal with CV-19, it’s variants and future pandemics.

Unbelievable.
Public money transferred into the pockets of Tory party donors. Objective achieved. Removed
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01/04/2021 10:01:52 3 7
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Have you any proof of that and if so,so what?
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01/04/2021 09:45:38 111 15
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Stop paying test and trace consultants several thousand pounds a day and pay those who can't afford to isolate instead.
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01/04/2021 09:48:32 40 10
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How do you identify those who need to isolate if you cannot test and trace?
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01/04/2021 10:06:53 10 5
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You can; it doesn't require people to be paid upwards of £6k a day to stand as an advisor to a scheme that has been shown to be ineffective.
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01/04/2021 11:04:34 2 1
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If you get covid, you call your close contacts and tell them immediately?

It is much quicker than having to test and trace who your contact were and waiting for them to call
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01/04/2021 09:48:33 27 11
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One of the biggest issues through out the pendemic. If more had taken responsibility. We wouldn't have been as badly effected. The government put financial help in place to avoid this situation. Clearly reading the item some missed out.
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01/04/2021 10:00:56 5 1
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Sadly, I feel as if I've missed out by sticking to the rules but during the first lockdown, everybody seemed scared and worried by the situation and then it all changed.
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Stu
01/04/2021 09:44:58 7 54
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Ever though your thinking gives them excuses?

part, and a major one, of thee problem not solution.

Leave the thinking to others!
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01/04/2021 09:48:36 20 1
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What did you say?
Leave the writing to others!
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01/04/2021 09:49:04 13 5
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37 billion.

That's about £500 for every person in the country, or £1000 for every taxpayer.

Ridiculous amount of money.
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01/04/2021 09:51:02 4 4
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That 37 billion is the amount of money ALLOCATED mot spent.
This is one of the biggest lies, only a fraction has been spent, with most of it being spent on test kits.
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01/04/2021 09:50:38 2 1
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So you wouldn't pay £1,000 to stay alive........ Or just wouldn't pay for someone else?
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01/04/2021 10:25:41 2 0
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We spent £400bn in support to save 350,000 lives

That’s £1,142,000 per life extended or saved depending on your view of the covid death age data
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01/04/2021 09:47:10 11 6
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The UK's levels of social compliance seem to have been much lower than other European countries throughout.
Perhaps it just filters down from the top.
The mixed messages, longer and harsher lockdown, government rule bending and general bamboozlement over why you can visit a crowded indoor shop but not stand in the middle of a field watching a local sports team ?
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01/04/2021 09:49:31 4 1
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Not just the 50 European countries but lower than most globally

No flag waving then
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01/04/2021 09:49:45 50 16
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My take away from this is that it is not Test and trace that is failing, it is us.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
JFK 20/01/61

It is called Social Responsibility.

We all need some
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01/04/2021 10:13:59 13 11
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When the government left it until the day before furlough was due to end to announce its extension last November, you can't blame some people for prioritising their ability to pay rent and buy food over their social responsibility. Especially when delays and exclusions in the help provided where caused by people who idealise someone who said, "There is no such thing as society."
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01/04/2021 10:16:20 4 2
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Nothing to do with the appalling mismanagement and misinformation from government and the lack of financial support, it's lack of moral fibre. Silly me.
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01/04/2021 09:47:09 7 5
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It really isn't surprising that people with mild symptoms - easily mistaken for common cold or hayfever - don't request a test or self-isolate. They have much to lose by doing so and NOTHING to gain.
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01/04/2021 09:49:45 6 3
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The gain the health of their loved ones and a quick return to normality.
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01/04/2021 09:55:48 0 3
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In the previous comment you can clearly see the whole problem! The "What's in it for me attitude"!
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01/04/2021 09:57:38 1 0
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Rather intangible, uncertain and situational gains really.
When off-set against the threat of fines, possible loss of income, increased difficulty in daily tasks due to not being allowed out, responsibility of causing all above one their friends and colleagues.

OP has a point.
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:49:55 35 21
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EU is handling vaccine roll wonderfully isn't it
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01/04/2021 09:49:59 22 6
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I get the sense that as vaccination reduces the severe impact of the pandemic, officials are starting to veer away from the original goal of preventing the NHS from being overwhelmed, and towards simply encouraging "compliance" with "the rules"
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01/04/2021 09:51:52 14 7
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They are trying to avoid a third wave of the type now in Europe.
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01/04/2021 09:45:34 13 8
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You are right. Selfishness is a human trait!
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01/04/2021 09:50:01 2 5
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What's selfish about that?
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01/04/2021 09:42:49 146 31
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Oh ffs people...

It's this kind of stupidity that demoralises the hell out of those of us who actually follow the rules and want to get rid of the virus so we can get on with our lives... we will never get over this if no one actually does what they are supposed to
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01/04/2021 09:50:20 21 11
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"we will never get over this if no one actually does what they are supposed to"

This is a bit misleading given that what people are supposed to do has been decided quite arbitrarily. Perhaps for these people they feel the pressure to work is so high their family's health is in danger. It isn't all black and white and that's what makes it tricky.
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01/04/2021 10:22:47 10 0
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Obvious some folk just can't afford to take a few days off work but I don't believe that applies to the high numbers reported here.
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01/04/2021 09:50:43 5 7
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What a surprise! I have been saying this throughout, but keep hearing it is all the governments fault, the people have been doing as they have been asked
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01/04/2021 09:47:52 8 6
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No, no, no!.... everything has to be BoJo's fault personally!
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01/04/2021 09:50:57 5 6
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bootlicker
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01/04/2021 09:49:04 13 5
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37 billion.

That's about £500 for every person in the country, or £1000 for every taxpayer.

Ridiculous amount of money.
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01/04/2021 09:51:02 4 4
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That 37 billion is the amount of money ALLOCATED mot spent.
This is one of the biggest lies, only a fraction has been spent, with most of it being spent on test kits.
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01/04/2021 09:55:04 1 0
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Even 1 billion is too much.
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:51:21 24 29
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Good point ??
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01/04/2021 09:51:26 16 11
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Just goes to show how stupid/ selfish people are!
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01/04/2021 09:55:33 6 9
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Just like you must be for making such and idiotic and insulting comment.

Beware of using the word selfish, because that is a simple word and very insulting when used in the WRONG context, like you have.
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01/04/2021 10:07:35 2 0
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No. Just goes to show that people are sick of the scaremongering, and aren't going to go all Chicken Little over a slight cough or sore throat.

People just want to get on with their lives!
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01/04/2021 10:36:26 1 0
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what? So people are supposed to starve, go without heating etc to satisfy your concept of being protected?..either grow a pair or shut up.
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MVP
01/04/2021 09:46:28 9 9
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Many people think that the pandemic is over and have relaxed their behaviour.

We saw this last summer too with the government's disastrous "eat out to help out" which cost many lives.
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01/04/2021 09:51:34 2 5
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Cost many lives? Prove it.
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01/04/2021 09:51:46 4 2
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We live in a capitalist society driven by money and greed. If you are greedy enough and have enough money then you can do whatever you like. All those at the other end of the scale could not give a monkeys about test and trace, isolation, and all the nice things that privileged people can do at the drop of a hat. Privileged people cannot and will not see it.
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01/04/2021 09:52:02 1 5
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Western world is in self isolation anyway. Has been for quite some time. Destruction of family is to take blame. Freedom, really ? World of lonely hearts why then apply yet another drastic measure on already lonely people? People cannot cope without it. Loneliness ( not sin! ) is first bad thing on pages of the Bible.
Also gatherings 6 + never happen anyway. 1000+ friends only happen on FB.
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01/04/2021 09:47:49 10 12
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Any proof of that, or do you just like moaning?
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01/04/2021 09:52:07 4 2
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It's a statistical thing, and correct.
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01/04/2021 10:05:48 0 1
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Something the government actively encouraged.
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01/04/2021 09:52:08 4 2
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Many do take care, but they therefore tend to avoid passing infection on. If the "don't care" group mix, infect and people die as a result this seems to be ok with them. We have developed a very selfish culture. It is all about "I".

(For info. currently 200/day infected in hospital by Covid. That is much better than the 3000/week infected in hospital in the second wave peak. Lets clap)
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01/04/2021 09:52:11 7 2
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Aggressive test and trace doesn't work within the complex web of British culture, doesn't take a genius to work that out before you waste £billions trying it.
Before you start defaming British values and culture, ask yourself first, what have you done to change things for the "better"? Why do you still continue to live here if you don't agree?
Truth is this country is not a bad place to live.
We are not going to 'Get Rid Of This Virus' by hiding as timid mice in our houses, making ourselves ill.

Shock Horror, folks have realised that this is no more than a Common Cold.
Diets high in fibre, carbs (sugar), low in nutrients (Mg, Zn, Vits B, C & D) plus alcohol use have made this thing.

Allied to Control Freakery & flat-out panic from Government backed up by heavy-handed ugly policing
Removed
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01/04/2021 10:05:33 0 0
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"We are not going to 'Get Rid Of This Virus' by hiding as timid mice in our houses, making ourselves ill."

In fact, an article a couple of months ago in Scientific American, indicates that the scaremongering HAS CAUSED a lot of mental health problems!
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01/04/2021 09:52:46 8 4
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Experts said the findings suggested the impact of the £37bn NHS Test and Trace system was "limited"(This page)

Another reason to have a full independent judge led inquiry into the handling of the pandemic NOW.
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01/04/2021 09:53:52 7 0
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Quite, I imagine that they'll find it could have cost a lot less if people did what was asked of them.
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01/04/2021 10:00:03 3 0
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NOW?, - an inquiry is useless until the event is completed. However, it could be embarrassing for the general population to discover why we have the worst health in Europe, highest diabetes rate, obesity, and that was the underlying cause of the high death rate.
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01/04/2021 09:53:01 59 22
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It's OK - because we will just isolate everyone by lockdown. That is the impact of lack of personal responsibility - and saying its the Gov't's fault is just a cop out

I do not want the gov't to manage me as an individual - but to get to that point everyone needs to take individual responsibility. Time to stop blaming Boris and start putting the expectation back on your neighbour
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01/04/2021 10:06:50 33 9
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100% correct. And not just with this virus, but with everything in life. Nowadays, everyone wants help or a handout from the government the moment anything goes wrong for them - even if the issue is self-inflicted.
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01/04/2021 10:25:28 5 2
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Boris showed a total lack of personal responsibility and the beginning of the pandemic with his shaking of hands etc.
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01/04/2021 14:35:55 1 0
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johnson is my neighbour and he's a spreading slob. nice try.
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01/04/2021 09:53:09 12 7
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Half of people do not know the symptoms of COVID. Really. They must be so dim. Let them get it and see if they know them then. They clearly serve no purpose in society.
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01/04/2021 09:58:02 6 6
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Add you with them, you offensive little person
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01/04/2021 10:03:26 1 0
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"They must be so dim. Let them get it and see if they know them then."

You really are very funny. It's so not a deal for most people that they probably won't even notice it.

Not everyone is cowering under a stone.
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01/04/2021 09:45:38 111 15
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Stop paying test and trace consultants several thousand pounds a day and pay those who can't afford to isolate instead.
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01/04/2021 09:53:09 7 6
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Hardly thousands of pounds per day even for the big wigs

Most are civil servants on regular wage and contractors on 250 to 500 per day
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01/04/2021 11:07:22 1 1
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Which adds up to thousands of pounds a day as there are many of them.
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01/04/2021 13:35:24 0 1
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PAC "An astounding number [around 2,500 in early February] of people earning, on average, £1,100 PER DAY. Highest paid get £6,624 PER DAY."
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01/04/2021 09:53:15 3 6
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what is the point if our ports and border are fully open to the virus ravaged world
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01/04/2021 09:57:22 1 1
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Virus ravaged ?! Try comparing to TB or just access to water - those a real issues.... not this nonsense
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01/04/2021 09:56:09 0 0
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The point is that 99%+ of the infections don't come through the borders.
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ARB
01/04/2021 09:53:47 8 4
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I think part of the problem is the fact that Brits are mostly staunchly independent. As a nation and as individuals. We don't like being told what to do. Even if it is for our own good.
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01/04/2021 09:56:29 7 5
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Well most of the population has cowered behind the sofa for a year so I'm not sure about your statement....
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01/04/2021 09:57:19 2 2
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Disagree - if Boris doesn't tell you in exact detail how to do your weekly ship we are apparently completely flummoxed
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01/04/2021 10:00:03 1 3
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yes we do. We're a nation of bootlickers who love to be subservient to our superiors such as Rees Mogg
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01/04/2021 10:08:38 1 2
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'Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.'
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bbc
Good. Sounds like most people realize that Covid is a very mild virus that isn't worth bothering with. The restrictions have been the biggest over-reaction in all of recorded history. Removed
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01/04/2021 10:00:23 2 0
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And the daftest comment of the day award goes to doug
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01/04/2021 10:00:33 2 0
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Where TF have you been for the past 12 months.....
At last! Someone who realises the truth. Covid-19 has not been proven to exist in the way the public have been led to believe. We have all been had, and all these totally unwarranted restrictions must stop immediately. And yes, i am an `anti-vaxxer` and proud of it. Vallance, Hancock, and Whitty should all be facing a court charged with crimes against humanity. Removed
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01/04/2021 10:21:17 0 0
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Agreed
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01/04/2021 09:52:46 8 4
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Experts said the findings suggested the impact of the £37bn NHS Test and Trace system was "limited"(This page)

Another reason to have a full independent judge led inquiry into the handling of the pandemic NOW.
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01/04/2021 09:53:52 7 0
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Quite, I imagine that they'll find it could have cost a lot less if people did what was asked of them.
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01/04/2021 09:47:10 11 6
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The UK's levels of social compliance seem to have been much lower than other European countries throughout.
Perhaps it just filters down from the top.
The mixed messages, longer and harsher lockdown, government rule bending and general bamboozlement over why you can visit a crowded indoor shop but not stand in the middle of a field watching a local sports team ?
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01/04/2021 09:53:56 3 0
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Obviously because we Brits know best, we won't be told anything, instead of just doing it we have to challenge everything. Had we been grown up, (and fitter), we wouldn't have lost as many as we have.
It is no use blaming instructions, things didn't need qualifying, we should have done as told.
As for the rule bending by civil servants, I hope they will get their come-uppance at the debrief.
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01/04/2021 09:54:37 61 22
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This sloppy attitude can be linked to the declining standards of discipline at a young age, both at home and in schools. It is the same sloppiness that results in littering, putting feet on seats in public transport. I imagine that if this pandemic had occurred during the 1950s or earlier, there would have been better co-operation by the public in following guidelines.
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01/04/2021 09:59:57 14 37
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Can you explain why some of the worst culprits have been the elderly? It was my experience during the 1st lockdown that the only people out initially were the elderly, obviously children noticed that and decided they weren't going to stay in either!
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01/04/2021 10:04:18 5 6
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If it had happened in the 50s there wouldn't have been such a damaging overreaction.
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01/04/2021 10:13:55 5 12
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OMG, most young people have put their lives on hold for a year for a disease which doesn’t kill them to keep the elderly safe

And this is the thanks they get

Hence we should have carried on as normal
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01/04/2021 10:15:40 2 0
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We did have a pandemic in the 1950s that was of comparable magnitude in terms of average lifetime lost per person (1957 flu).
We will never find out what the adherence to lockdown would have been, because it wasn't implemented then
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01/04/2021 11:01:09 3 4
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So how many teenagers own houses to have these house parties in? Round here it's all middle-aged and elderly people having parties, 'popping round for a cup of tea' etc. My gran had more people round per day than I've had in over a year. For some reason it's people outdoors who get all the media attention cos they're visible (and yet, ironically, less of a risk than people assembling indoors
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:54:58 45 18
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Have you sought professional help for your obsession?
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01/04/2021 09:55:02 12 1
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Without financial incentives most people can't or won't comply. On a plus note the vaccines will save the day. Encouraging data from Isreal and Gibraltar imply that the more people that are vaccinated, the easier it is to control the pandemic
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01/04/2021 09:51:02 4 4
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That 37 billion is the amount of money ALLOCATED mot spent.
This is one of the biggest lies, only a fraction has been spent, with most of it being spent on test kits.
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01/04/2021 09:55:04 1 0
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Even 1 billion is too much.
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01/04/2021 09:47:36 30 37
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There is a whole scheme of self isolation payments for those whose incomes will be affected.
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01/04/2021 09:55:06 11 3
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80% of claimants for which were rejected in parts of Wales.
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01/04/2021 10:30:08 5 1
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Unfortunately this is another example of the selfishness and blatant illegality that has been thrown up over the last year. The rules have to be strict as there are tens of thousands of people whose only aim is to defraud the government (i.e. us as our taxes pay for this). Look at the statistics, a quarter of loans to businesses went to fake companies set up just to get the loans.
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01/04/2021 09:55:20 2 7
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Given the amount of lies the government and all politicians have told about 'case' numbers, deaths and about masks, I'm not surprised that so many people refuse to comply with rules that will only do them harm.

I don't believe a single word this government says, and the same goes for 99.9% of the rest of Parliament/politicians. I will use common sense and my own knowledge to decide what to do.
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01/04/2021 10:01:17 0 0
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So the great leader has spoken, and will make us all safe.
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01/04/2021 09:55:29 17 5
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What about our current situation suggests that either the govt of the people have been doing what they can to prevent the spread?

We have a culture of seeing what we can get away with instead of what we can do to help.

Yes, some other countries have done worse, but if my house was on fire I wouldn't stop worrying if my neighbours house was more on fire.
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01/04/2021 10:06:03 3 11
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I agree with you; we need to get rid of these ridiculous border restrictions asap.
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01/04/2021 10:08:09 4 1
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I dont think it's a simple as this. Yes, there a some selfish people who will do what they want and when they want. However, there are a great number of people who have stuck to the advise as well. Plus, there are those who have to work (zero hours gig economy) and must go out. I think the government were useless to begin with and slowly they are getting their act together. Its complicated really.
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01/04/2021 09:55:29 7 7
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The massive fail of Test & Trace,
compounded by the lack of automatic compensation,
worsened by the lunatic antics of :
Boris with handshaking, self isolating AWAY from No10,
Mr Cummings' infamous jaunt,
Stanley in Greece,
MPs trotting about after being tested
and other fine examples of what NOT to do,

I'm not exactly surprised that self-isolation is disregarded.
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01/04/2021 09:51:26 16 11
bbc
Just goes to show how stupid/ selfish people are!
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01/04/2021 09:55:33 6 9
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Just like you must be for making such and idiotic and insulting comment.

Beware of using the word selfish, because that is a simple word and very insulting when used in the WRONG context, like you have.
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01/04/2021 09:44:38 218 26
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Whilst the government have not been great for a lot of this pandemic, it's obvious that personal responsibility and civic duty has also been found wanting.

I have sympathy for those who cannot afford to isolate and do not have the option of working from home but I also feel that there have been some high profile examples of poor behaviour that have gone unpunished.
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01/04/2021 09:55:42 20 152
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Maybe come down off the fence mate - pick a side
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01/04/2021 09:59:46 82 5
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Why should he 'pick a side'?

Being level headed and blaming all involved, Government and the common man alike is the most sensible, rational way of thinking

Not the judgemental one-sided view you seem to want everyone to adopt
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Jim
01/04/2021 10:11:36 41 1
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My lads argue. Do I pick a side? No I listen carefully and attempt to apply reason and sense that they can both see. Life is more than black and white, left and right, up or down. It requires consideration, interpretation and balance. What is the rush to pick a side? It’s not fence sitting, it is wise judgment. We would be in a better place were we to collectively and sensibly embrace it.
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01/04/2021 10:12:08 38 1
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That's been the problem for years. Folk picking "sides"
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01/04/2021 10:24:39 17 0
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Yeah pick a side then never see things from the other point of view. It's more emotionally gratifying and you don't have to think as much.
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01/04/2021 10:43:09 2 0
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Learn to understand nuance mate. Pick an education.
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01/04/2021 11:39:22 3 0
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I suppose all those people trashing the parks not social distancing are all leave voters by your logic?
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01/04/2021 14:39:25 0 0
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Useless comments.
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02/04/2021 04:25:35 0 0
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I found it funny Ram.
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01/04/2021 09:55:45 201 19
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Just look at the s**t left lying around this weekend, this country has turned into a cesspit of selfish morons.
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01/04/2021 09:58:36 71 9
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It's disgusting isn't it. What goes through people's minds?
Mostly students/youngsters who have little respect for anything.... Removed
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01/04/2021 10:16:03 23 0
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Selfish morons - spot on.
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01/04/2021 10:18:46 17 2
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It's been a cesspit of selfish morons for decades, it hasn't just become one.
Tear gas and water cannon for them!! Let's get some southern European policing going! Behave like scum, get treated like scum! Removed
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2LO
01/04/2021 10:38:24 6 21
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What do you EXPECT when people have been treated like morons and are then let out of their cages for a while? Boris Johnson and his Bullingdon chums used to smash up RESTAURANTS when THEY were out on binges.
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01/04/2021 11:28:05 1 6
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We are nation used to employed people picking up after us. This is not an excuse, we should/must be tidying up after ourselves. But would the parks be this bad if stuff was open, I would bet most of the people would be in pubs and bars.
This is the result of built up frustration with nowhere to release it.
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01/04/2021 11:46:27 6 0
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I'm sure they aren't reading this. Still out there spreading more s**t. They get all their 'news' from social media.
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01/04/2021 11:59:39 5 0
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Yep,

and looks like 90% of them are under 25. This country is screwed in the long term.
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02/04/2021 06:40:53 2 0
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Not surprised, but apparently the under 30s seem to think they are immune from Covid because of their age even though 11 day old babies have died in the UK from Covid.

But apparently dead babies isn't enough to stop people behaving badly.
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01/04/2021 09:49:45 6 3
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The gain the health of their loved ones and a quick return to normality.
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01/04/2021 09:55:48 0 3
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In the previous comment you can clearly see the whole problem! The "What's in it for me attitude"!
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-_-
01/04/2021 09:55:59 20 5
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How many lives does it have to have saved to say if it was value for money?

If it's saved 100 lives, I'm sure the person, their families and friends would think it's worthwhile.
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01/04/2021 10:09:34 10 11
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No, you are wrong here. Your thinking is what is making everything so hard.

Life does carry risk and sometimes terrible things happen.

What the government had to do was weigh up the cost to all against the reward.

Saving 100 lives does not justify the expense. Why cannot today's society understand that life is not 100% safe?
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01/04/2021 09:43:15 11 6
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There needs to be strict control when entering or leaving the country when we open back up...People should be holidaying in the UK anyway to contribute to the economy
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01/04/2021 09:56:15 2 6
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So you are happy to spread the virus only amongst uk citizens

I will send my money as I see fit and it won't be holidaying in uk

Oops I forget you probably think uk citizens holidaying in uk can't transmit or get infected
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01/04/2021 10:49:54 1 0
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And thanks to people like you we have imported Covid to the uk twice.

Last Feb and last summer.

We had 2m of freedom/low cases, then travel corridors & Covid to be reseeded in UK.

Read up on genomics.

If as EU does, labelled virus as Italian or French, or in summer the Spanish, rather than being so PC.

Perhaps more would have learned the basic fact, that travel/hols have killed others.
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01/04/2021 09:56:18 5 4
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Most can't afford to
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ARB
01/04/2021 09:53:47 8 4
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I think part of the problem is the fact that Brits are mostly staunchly independent. As a nation and as individuals. We don't like being told what to do. Even if it is for our own good.
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01/04/2021 09:56:29 7 5
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Well most of the population has cowered behind the sofa for a year so I'm not sure about your statement....
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01/04/2021 10:11:33 2 4
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Agreed. A worryingly large number of people in this country seem to have embraced the removal of freedoms and fear-based controlling methods now ubiquitous every day. Without even batting an eye lid.

Hopefully there is a silent majority that still possess the grit and independence the Brits are known for. This report suggests as much.
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01/04/2021 09:46:00 115 166
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Given that 52% voted the way they did in 2016, your question must be rhetorical.
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01/04/2021 09:56:49 44 20
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Well done for shoe-horning Brexit into this one. Only a true remoaner could do that.
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01/04/2021 11:37:19 3 1
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what pointing out the obvious - also my obsession but its anti brexiteer (the obvious that is)
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01/04/2021 09:56:52 1 0
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How come, the PM repeatedly said the British public have been magnificent so it must be true!
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01/04/2021 09:56:58 5 4
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Symptomatic of ignorance, just like Brexit
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01/04/2021 09:43:13 163 4
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I find the figures in this report incredible. How do less than half of people know what the Covid symptoms are?
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Bob
01/04/2021 09:57:05 11 1
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I tried to tell those people but they probably couldn't hear me over all their coughing.
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01/04/2021 09:45:38 111 15
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Stop paying test and trace consultants several thousand pounds a day and pay those who can't afford to isolate instead.
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01/04/2021 09:57:08 10 12
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Perhaps the unions should do something practical like paying their members to isolate or make difference up between sick pay and their wages. After all they are still taking their members fees. Perhaps they could make a goodwill gesture of refunding the fees. That would help some of the people who have lost out.
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01/04/2021 10:29:25 5 1
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Do you know anything about Unions. They do not have the money to pay for employees wages.
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ARB
01/04/2021 09:53:47 8 4
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I think part of the problem is the fact that Brits are mostly staunchly independent. As a nation and as individuals. We don't like being told what to do. Even if it is for our own good.
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01/04/2021 09:57:19 2 2
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Disagree - if Boris doesn't tell you in exact detail how to do your weekly ship we are apparently completely flummoxed
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01/04/2021 09:57:19 0 0
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Report last night on BBC North West news re foreign travel with fake papers and reason for travel. Please watch before it's buried.
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01/04/2021 09:53:15 3 6
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what is the point if our ports and border are fully open to the virus ravaged world
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01/04/2021 09:57:22 1 1
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Virus ravaged ?! Try comparing to TB or just access to water - those a real issues.... not this nonsense
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01/04/2021 09:42:36 1 1
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TEST AND TRACE costs should not be billed to the tax payer then.

.. or perhaps bill it ONLY to those who did not follow the intended instruction.

In any case don't bill it to those who haven't had covid or who followed it.

I expect tax code changes as a result of my request, beeb. And i'm not joking.

IT COST BILLIONS.
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01/04/2021 09:42:41 2 1
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We've still got no idea how many people died as a result of the Grenfell Tower fire, so we had no chance with 'test & tracing' COVID... too many 'unofficial' citizens.
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01/04/2021 09:42:45 3 9
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We’re all dead

It’s hard to regret it too much

Because, to be honest, as a country, we don’t deserve to live
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01/04/2021 10:01:17 1 0
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Repeat, repeat repeat poster has just woke up!!!!, again.
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01/04/2021 10:03:07 0 0
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I'll just get jet my cyanide.....
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01/04/2021 09:49:45 6 3
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The gain the health of their loved ones and a quick return to normality.
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01/04/2021 09:57:38 1 0
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Rather intangible, uncertain and situational gains really.
When off-set against the threat of fines, possible loss of income, increased difficulty in daily tasks due to not being allowed out, responsibility of causing all above one their friends and colleagues.

OP has a point.
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01/04/2021 09:57:58 3 5
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the first lockdown worked with 98% of the public going along with even thought the messaging was very mixed .

since then the messaging has been a complete shambles

we have been put into lock down while watching 20 to 30'000 people a day arriving
at UK ports without a single one being tested on arrival .

THE PUBLIC HAVE LOST ALL TRUST IN BORIS AND HIS CLOWNS
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01/04/2021 10:08:51 0 0
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Try reading the report.
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01/04/2021 09:53:09 12 7
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Half of people do not know the symptoms of COVID. Really. They must be so dim. Let them get it and see if they know them then. They clearly serve no purpose in society.
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01/04/2021 09:58:02 6 6
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Add you with them, you offensive little person
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rl
01/04/2021 09:58:25 9 1
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This has been the elephant in the room for some time. Whilst the system has it's faults, there is no hope of it making an impact if compliance is poor (for whatever reason that might be).
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01/04/2021 10:51:51 1 1
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Because they realised it was an exaggerated threat.
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01/04/2021 09:55:45 201 19
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Just look at the s**t left lying around this weekend, this country has turned into a cesspit of selfish morons.
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01/04/2021 09:58:36 71 9
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It's disgusting isn't it. What goes through people's minds?
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01/04/2021 11:09:40 1 0
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The alcohol from the empty cans?
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01/04/2021 11:47:46 2 1
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Nothing at all I suppose. I bet they're mainly students, studying media studies.
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01/04/2021 11:50:05 3 0
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very little and therein lies the problem...
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01/04/2021 13:14:52 2 0
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You are assuming they have minds, while the evidence suggests they are simply mindless.
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01/04/2021 14:16:43 1 0
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That's the trouble - they are mindLESS.
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01/04/2021 14:32:51 2 0
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McMuck
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01/04/2021 09:41:19 37 2
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Is this a surprise to anyone?
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01/04/2021 09:58:36 35 14
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Not when statuary sick pay isn't enough to feed your family - doesn't surprise me at all.
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01/04/2021 10:10:44 7 9
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Statutory. Statuary is what certain groups like to pull down and throw into rivers............
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01/04/2021 10:22:49 8 2
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Biggest survey to date showed only 8% broke isolation to go to work.

What is your solution for the other 92% who just thought they knew better or simply just didnt care.
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01/04/2021 10:39:47 4 3
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its for 2 weeks. Rainy day fund?
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01/04/2021 11:47:25 5 1
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Well let's hope these hapless types learn from this not to spend the money they get given! No holidays, no fashion, no eating out no alcohol, no phone based purchases. Get several thousands behind you before spending a penny over the most basic survival on basic value range supermarket food. Until rich money is for not spending!