Covid: Children 'well protected by Pfizer vaccine'
31/03/2021 | news | health | 1,284
Initial results from trials in 12- to 15-year-olds in the US will be handed to regulators.
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31/03/2021 14:09:08 21 24
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They’re well protected from Covid full stop ??
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31/03/2021 14:20:17 12 19
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How does this have so many dislikes. Children are exceptionally low risk. In fact, adults under 70 are more likely to die in a car crash than of COVID. I hope people start appreciating how much the Gov't has done to inflate the risks.
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31/03/2021 14:11:11 30 22
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They're well protected by their natural immunity too. Stop trying to force medication on people, especially kids. Line in the sand.
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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 16
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But Big Pharma has to get its pound of flesh out of the pandemic.

Especially at >GBP25 per shot.

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31/03/2021 14:50:11 0 2
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As long as parents can refuse then this is good news so that vulnerable children can be vaccinated to protect them without having to try to get herd immunity in children as we do with childhood vaccines.
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31/03/2021 16:12:41 3 0
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Like many things it's much more complicated than that. Children with cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, going on immune suppressing meds etc etc will not be "well protected by their natural immunity" and so this study may prove to be welcome news for this group.
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31/03/2021 14:11:36 25 27
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Get vaccinated, it’s that simple.
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31/03/2021 14:18:35 10 15
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why?
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31/03/2021 14:28:40 3 3
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Why?
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31/03/2021 14:51:10 1 4
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why?... its dosnt work. and germany has again restricted the use of the AZ vaccine.
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31/03/2021 17:13:22 0 0
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Get stuffed, even simpler
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31/03/2021 14:12:00 16 18
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HMG were so keen to roll out the vaccines because they saw it as their get out of jail card.
All the (as yet mainly unseen) horrors of LD justified by a simple jab in the arm... we've saved you!
Fair enough
But asking parents to have their(almost zero risk) children vaxed, with what, even with the best will in the world, is a vaccine as novel as the virus it's designed to fight, must be immoral.
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31/03/2021 16:00:03 2 2
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No it is not immoral. All trials were conducted in accordance with the Declaration of Helsinki (i.e. are ethical). Kids need vaccination to end the pool of people COVID is still circulating in, causing mutations that can affect ANY of us.
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31/03/2021 14:12:13 11 22
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Get them jabbed by the start of the autumn term so we can have a good end to the year too!!
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31/03/2021 14:18:03 8 12
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why?
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31/03/2021 14:32:11 5 4
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People are obsessed with the vaccine as if it's the new messiah or something. Where is the justification for vaccinating those who are at virtually no risk?

Perhaps engaging your brain before you comment might be helpful in the future.
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31/03/2021 14:12:29 37 35
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Why would you need to vaccinate children against an illness that doesn't affect them . More money for big pharma anyone ? Jabbed every year for the rest of their life ! stop this nonsense NOW !!
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31/03/2021 14:16:12 24 21
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Vaccines without a lifting of restrictions is simply lining the pockets of the drug companies.

We need to be accelerating the lifting of restrictions - not this tip toeing about
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31/03/2021 14:25:44 2 6
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They could still get it
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31/03/2021 14:35:15 7 6
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They can get it and pass it on to granny
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31/03/2021 14:30:05 4 1
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I agree. Children have been damaged enough
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31/03/2021 16:16:15 1 0
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If your child was undergoing treatment for leukaemia for example - and nearly 2000 kids in the UK get cancer every year - a vaccine option to prevent COVID will probably be quite useful. So such a study is likely to be helpful, for people in the medical field and parents of affected children. Obviously for people with no medical knowledge, just an excuse to rant about things I guess.
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31/03/2021 14:11:11 30 22
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They're well protected by their natural immunity too. Stop trying to force medication on people, especially kids. Line in the sand.
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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 16
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But Big Pharma has to get its pound of flesh out of the pandemic.

Especially at >GBP25 per shot.

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31/03/2021 14:20:10 3 0
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It's nothing like that at all. $2 to $5 is more like it worldwide.
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31/03/2021 14:20:50 7 0
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AZ/Oxford are doing it at cost
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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 14
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Teachers should be vaccinated as a priority.
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31/03/2021 14:20:13 9 1
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We all know people couldn’t care less about teachers, as long as the schools are open
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31/03/2021 14:16:26 4 0
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From whom would you take the vaccine to vaccinate them?
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31/03/2021 14:14:02 161 26
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I wonder where all this negative press for the AZ vaccine keeps coming from, interestingly Pfizer tried to buy AZ.
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31/03/2021 14:58:47 111 130
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Why would we even consider this.
Since when have we vaccinated people that are at virtually no risk themselves from anything.
Seems to me having gone down the mad route of quarantining the healthy, over a disease with over a 99% survival rate, we're now up for any kind of insanity.
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31/03/2021 14:56:41 15 8
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Looks like German industry. Never mind, sales of their unreliable polluting cars are falling rapidly in the UK!
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31/03/2021 15:05:18 35 6
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This stat from UK vaccination on blood clot events

"Up to February 28, there were 38 reports from about 11.5million doses of Pfizer’s vaccine – compared to 30 from 9.7million AstraZeneca doses"

I simply do not understand the reactionary hokeykokey approach from Europe that is rippling around the world. Vaccines save lives - the needs of the many outweigh the interests of big pharma
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31/03/2021 15:10:23 26 3
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We have to admit AZ made some communication gaffes around the announcement of results (picked up by regulators). But there has also been some scapegoating by politicians. At the end of the day the science on an association with blot clots is inconclusive (possibly a statistical anomaly?) - we have to remember that Covid itself is proven to cause blood clots - so relative risks favour the vaccine.
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31/03/2021 15:18:58 17 2
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US; Canada; South Africa; Norway....lots of countries around the world have doubts about A-Z vaccine, though I would take it if offered. However, let other nations decide their own public health policies, and just concentrate on what our own Government is doing to protect us...that's the important thing! If other nations don't use A-Z, it just means there's more to go round for those that do.
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31/03/2021 15:46:55 5 4
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Well it is because a lot of people have died and had serious life changing side effects, so why would that not be negative? And one never knows who will react or not - Russian Roulette?
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31/03/2021 19:00:46 0 1
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Yes I wonder can Pfizer see profits going out the window hence lets to rubbish AZ even though it was developed by one if not the best vaccine labs in the world.
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31/03/2021 19:06:20 0 0
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Big pharma lobbying at the EU...didnt work as France shuts up shop. Ha bloody ha.
31/03/2021 19:43:40 0 0
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Pfizer are not offering a vaccine - they are offering experimental gene therapy or to quote leaked e-mails.......... a new operating system
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31/03/2021 14:14:39 138 43
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The Pfizer propaganda consortium headed by Merkel and Macron certainly doing their job well.
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31/03/2021 14:25:06 41 156
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I guess we should rejoin the EU then - makes too much sense not to.

Rejoin referendum 2022 anyone?
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baz
31/03/2021 14:52:12 14 36
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What's not important

126,000 deaths
Fraud of £30Bn on track and trace
Complete and utter failure by our government

What is important

Getting one over the EU
Big flags
Boris going to the pub weeeeey what a LAD
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31/03/2021 15:26:43 12 4
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The best bit is that macaroon and meghan merkel want to buy the sputnik vaccine, which was most likely developed from data stolen from AZ hacks.
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31/03/2021 15:28:11 6 1
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I don't think you realise that Pfizer is an American pharma company!
31/03/2021 19:50:04 0 1
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Pfizer is not a vaccine - it is experimental gene therapy (or a new operating system to quote Pfizer leaked e-mails )
01/04/2021 11:08:16 0 0
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Yes, Merkel and Macron are to blame for a study by Pfizer on American teenagers... Jesus...
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31/03/2021 14:14:54 26 2
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What we need to understand next is what is a normal case rate for Covid compared to say 'flu? It's clearly not going to be zero, but if we get rid of the hospitalisations, how many cases are really normal? How many actual cases of flu are there each year?
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31/03/2021 14:20:37 59 17
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Twenty thousand deaths from flu in a normal year, more in some, and society has accepted this.

Stands to reason that society will accept it for COVID too. Sure there may be a selfish and vocal minority who call for more restrictions when deaths start creeping up but most people just want to get busy living.
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31/03/2021 15:55:56 1 0
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it has a greater base R rating
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31/03/2021 14:12:29 37 35
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Why would you need to vaccinate children against an illness that doesn't affect them . More money for big pharma anyone ? Jabbed every year for the rest of their life ! stop this nonsense NOW !!
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31/03/2021 14:16:12 24 21
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Vaccines without a lifting of restrictions is simply lining the pockets of the drug companies.

We need to be accelerating the lifting of restrictions - not this tip toeing about
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31/03/2021 14:16:25 123 42
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I think the kids own immune system has proved more than capable of keeping them "well protected" to so far.....
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31/03/2021 14:19:47 128 68
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Do their own immune systems prevent them from spreading the virus to older members of their families?
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31/03/2021 15:40:20 6 10
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What about kids with bad immune system?
What about kids that you don’t know have a bad immune system?
Quite a gamble, so maybe jab all the kids just to be on the safe side.
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31/03/2021 15:54:27 0 1
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snotty noses apparently
no room for anymore
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31/03/2021 16:04:33 4 0
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There are many children like my 6yrs old daughter who has been shielding nearly a whole year, they need vaccine. I can't wait for it, the sooner the better.
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31/03/2021 17:02:32 0 1
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Not so much their immune systems - but their body's own resistance to endothelial damage to their vascular system. They're just able to "wait to out" for longer than adults whose vascular systems have more wear and tear.

http://www.en.usz.ch/media/press-releases/pages/covid-19-endotheliitis.aspx
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31/03/2021 18:53:45 2 1
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People are forgetting virus mutations ie South African variant where if a young person gets it and is a carrier and passes it on to older family members who have been vaccinated but the vaccine has a reduced effect then that person could end up in ICU
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31/03/2021 19:21:46 2 2
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Why would any parent allow a healthy child, who is low risk, to be vaccinated with an essentially experimental vaccine, for which there is currently no data on whether there are long term implications?
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31/03/2021 14:16:26 300 143
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I’m as pro vaccine as anyone and I’ll be taking it when offered but I really don’t like the pressure that’s being applied to get people who don’t really need it to take it. We don’t need domestic vaccine passports and we certainly don’t need kids vaccinated.

We’re lucky to have very low levels of vaccine hesitancy/antivaxx sentiment in the UK. Why are we trying to solve problems that don’t exist?
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31/03/2021 14:17:52 117 89
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hooray for a sensible comment !
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31/03/2021 14:18:37 37 32
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Well said. Plenty of evidence to suggest that we will reach vaccination levels through voluntary means. Vaccine passports -- I would bet -- would just make those reluctant more reluctant, while also locking them out of society. There are plenty of other ethical concerns, but it's worrying.
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31/03/2021 14:32:56 54 38
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If it helps the children stop catching it, they then can't pass it on to granny
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31/03/2021 14:32:56 30 17
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I agree. The idea of vaccine passports is alarming to many, including people like me who are more than happy to take the vaccine when I get the chance. I'm concerned that it is just feeding into the sense of mistrust among a small but not insignificant number of people. Instead of encouraging vaccine take-up it may actually entrench anti-vax sentiment as further evidence of government shenanigans.
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31/03/2021 14:48:39 33 27
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Need to srive down number of infected to minimise the opportunity for the virus to mutate.
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31/03/2021 14:52:51 62 35
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Vaccinated kids means less covid about to
A) pass on to people who can’t have the vaccine for allergy reasons
B) pass on to the 10% (approx) of people that the vaccine isn’t effective for
C)Mutate
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31/03/2021 14:57:24 35 28
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Getting people to take the jab is the only way that we will get back to normal.
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31/03/2021 14:59:03 42 22
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As a scientist and a parent of a child who developed a chronic fatigue aged16, I think we should offer the vaccine to young people including children. I am not saying we bully anyone into this but vaccinating more of our population will protect those for whom vaccination is not an option. More importantly it will protect children from long Covid - like CFS, recovery may take 2-3 years - if at all
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31/03/2021 14:48:58 29 43
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im fully vaccinated for my work, but until robust peer review safety data is published im not touching a covid jab, if i still had kids they wouldnt be anywhere near it.
Its intersting to note germany has again restricted the use of the AZ vaccine and the bbc has now removed the story.
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31/03/2021 14:59:02 11 11
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There are people who are imno compromised who can’t take it though. It offers protection to the vulnerable and idiots as teenagers can spread it.
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31/03/2021 15:07:27 25 17
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How can you claim to be as 'pro vaccine AS ANYONE' and then go on to say you don't like 'the pressure' to encourage people to get vaccinated, and you object to vaccinated kids and vaccine passports! Surely that's not the most 'pro vaccine' stance to take!

The risk of Covid mutations is in itself reason enough to do everything possible to maximise vaccine uptake.
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31/03/2021 15:12:01 18 12
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That's all pretty short-sighted. IF we reach the stage that only children are not vaccinated and we are all carriers then the virus may well mutate to target the kids. We do the research NOW in case these problems arise. It will be too late to do it then if this happens. The need to take vaccines may change, better to have that option.
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31/03/2021 15:13:58 6 16
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Agree, we really need to educate on all prevention measures such as mask wearing and ventilation.

So many people on trains with thier 'chin protectors' doing nothing, whilst train staff say nothing.
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31/03/2021 15:11:46 14 1
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Contrary to popular belief a small minority of highly clinically vulnerable children do need to be vaccinated.
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31/03/2021 15:23:19 19 7
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Why do we not need kids vaccinated? I teach 10 year olds and 3 in my class had it over the Christmas holidays.
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31/03/2021 15:29:45 16 8
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There’s a lot of anti vaccine lobbyists out there that are influencing the vulnerable and are now targeting the young - trying to scare children to talk their parents out of it? To me that’s one of the reasons for low take up in some ethnic groups?
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31/03/2021 15:36:05 6 1
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WE won't get domestic vaccine passports but what other countries decide they need for incomers (& what UK require) is another matter.

Nor will we be vaccinating children unless it is shown to be necessary - as it is with the MMR vaccine.
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31/03/2021 15:42:58 5 9
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Before today I was very pro-Covid vaccination.

I met a friend who told me about her father dying after being vaccinated. I recognise that this could be sheer coincidence but the problem is that nearly six weeks on no one from MRHA has investigated the cause of death or really acknowledged it.

The problem this presents is that given we’re using a black triangles vaccine the MRHA should be...
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31/03/2021 15:45:39 5 8
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A very sensible comment at last on the BBC. Some people can die or get auto-immune conditions or severe allergy from peanuts or gluten, some don't. If the vaccine makers can come under scrutiny, there should not be concerns. However, they don't come under scrutiny and they have legal protection against prosecution. Car manufacturers trying experimental cars, are not protected. Wonder why?
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31/03/2021 15:57:18 10 6
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Bollocks. My kids need healthy parents and grandparents, and long-term covid damage is a big tail risk. The vaccines are safe. They’ll all be getting them.
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31/03/2021 16:11:32 9 2
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Alas I’m afraid you are wrong. While the death rates for Covid are almost exclusively for the over 50s, the people struggling with Long Covid are much often younger. Furthermore, it is the young who get many forms of Leukaemia (especially school age) and the first presentation for loss of that immunity could be a Covid fatality.
The morbidity and mortality from Covid in under 50s is still huge.
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31/03/2021 16:15:34 2 0
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To get ahead of the game this time.
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31/03/2021 16:19:44 3 1
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Simple answer: MONEY!!!!!!!!
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31/03/2021 16:39:57 6 1
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Kids catch Covid just like adults, very rarely get seriously ill but they can transmit it to others. So kids do need to be vaccinated. Also, according to a charity helping children who have long Covid, one in ten who contract Covid then develop long Covid. Still think kids don't need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 17:24:07 0 6
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Well said
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31/03/2021 18:02:44 3 1
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Why don't we need children vaccinated? I'd be interested in your medical opinion
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31/03/2021 18:34:39 1 5
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Best comment in a long time, completely with you.
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31/03/2021 18:52:01 1 1
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Kids might not need vaccinating with the current variants in circulation, but if a new mutation appears which does make kids sick, it would be helpful to have the vaccine already approved, so an updated version could be rolled out without delay.
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31/03/2021 19:01:59 1 2
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While the numbers are very low some children die from Covid, and some suffer long Covid. So if it is safe why not vaccinate. The issue is proving it is safe enough that the benefits outweigh the risks. And that means a far larger trial because even rare detrimental effects from vaccination could shift the balance against vaccination. Problem then is children volunteering when they are children.
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31/03/2021 14:17:51 15 14
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Another good piece of news, were on our way out of this torture. This is significant as the teenyboppers are guilty of spreading the virus. Not all of them of course but by being able to extinguish the spread among groups case numbers can stay low.
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31/03/2021 14:41:40 12 2
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Not true by a long shot! Follow the science, schools are open and rates of infection, hospitalization and deaths are all going down significantly. The kids don't need the vaccine
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31/03/2021 15:52:54 0 0
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Torture only brought on by the Governments reponse!
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31/03/2021 14:16:26 300 143
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I’m as pro vaccine as anyone and I’ll be taking it when offered but I really don’t like the pressure that’s being applied to get people who don’t really need it to take it. We don’t need domestic vaccine passports and we certainly don’t need kids vaccinated.

We’re lucky to have very low levels of vaccine hesitancy/antivaxx sentiment in the UK. Why are we trying to solve problems that don’t exist?
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31/03/2021 14:17:52 117 89
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hooray for a sensible comment !
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 14:21:31 67 86
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So that schools can open safely
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31/03/2021 14:24:36 10 29
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Because they won't always be children...?
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31/03/2021 14:24:46 10 23
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Yes I know it’s low chance of getting and even less dying but they could still get it
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31/03/2021 14:28:41 31 21
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Its not about children. Its about spreading. Schools, like churches pubs, workplaces and other large scale indoor environments remain superspreader conduits into whole families. There's no chance of getting down to v low levels and mutations without vaccinating attendees of all.
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31/03/2021 14:23:39 16 15
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Mutations and community transmission
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31/03/2021 14:54:37 7 7
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Because if it’s stopping kids getting it entirely (which seems to be the case) -then they’re not carriers.
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31/03/2021 14:56:23 7 9
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To protect others!! jeez
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31/03/2021 15:25:26 4 5
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They can still transmit it to adults.
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31/03/2021 16:06:46 2 0
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On majority kids don't need one, there is still a significant number of children with underlying health problems who need protection.
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31/03/2021 17:00:58 1 2
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Because nearly all uk adults are paranoid
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31/03/2021 17:37:44 0 3
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Vaccinating kids is ridiculous. Bit why stop there, let’s vaccinate unborns in the womb! Just so the bedwetters feel ‘safe’ ??
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31/03/2021 17:46:53 1 0
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Measles, mumps and rubella are usually fairly mild in children too, but devastating as adults. That's why children will be vaccinated. As we see how bad this really is it'll either be added to childhood vacinnations, given like flu jabs to the vulnerable or stopped as it becomes part of the cold pantheon.
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31/03/2021 17:47:53 0 1
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Oh, and because the folk on social media are thick and won't send their children to school because they're scared of Covid.
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Ian
31/03/2021 18:26:53 1 0
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There is mounting evidence of children having long term issues from Covid plus kids are best looked after by healthy parents and teachers.
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31/03/2021 19:16:29 0 0
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To prevent vaccine avoiding mutations which would put us back to square one.
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31/03/2021 14:12:13 11 22
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Get them jabbed by the start of the autumn term so we can have a good end to the year too!!
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31/03/2021 14:18:03 8 12
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why?
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31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
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Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
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31/03/2021 14:21:32 17 13
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So we should have lockdown until there is no risk to anyone of dying from COVID? Presumably then we should all have liberties taken away to reduce the risk of diabetes and heart attack. No soft-drinks and chocolate for anyone until there is no risk of diabetes! Nobody's safe until we're all safe!
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31/03/2021 14:25:56 1 1
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What area ???
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31/03/2021 14:29:18 4 0
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My 2nd jab was brought forward so 8 1/2 weeks between doses.
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31/03/2021 14:37:38 4 1
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One dose prevents severe disease and blocking up the NHS.

Since when did you move the goal posts and who gave you the right to put people under house arrest because “someone might get a cough”.
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31/03/2021 14:38:44 3 2
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Go away. Lockdown is ending
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31/03/2021 14:48:00 2 0
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Firstly I don’t believe you as there are still a large amount of vaccinations per day and the second doses are a long way ahead of the first dose total 12 weeks ago.
Secondly, we don’t need to give all the vulnerable groups a second dose before easing lockdown, the first dose makes by far the biggest difference to protection, the second is mainly a booster which only increases protection slightly
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31/03/2021 15:52:48 0 0
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Do you support the vaccination effort - if so, please tell us.
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31/03/2021 14:18:24 8 18
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Of course they are, they don't need the vaccine
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31/03/2021 14:11:36 25 27
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Get vaccinated, it’s that simple.
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31/03/2021 14:18:35 10 15
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why?
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31/03/2021 14:16:26 300 143
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I’m as pro vaccine as anyone and I’ll be taking it when offered but I really don’t like the pressure that’s being applied to get people who don’t really need it to take it. We don’t need domestic vaccine passports and we certainly don’t need kids vaccinated.

We’re lucky to have very low levels of vaccine hesitancy/antivaxx sentiment in the UK. Why are we trying to solve problems that don’t exist?
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31/03/2021 14:18:37 37 32
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Well said. Plenty of evidence to suggest that we will reach vaccination levels through voluntary means. Vaccine passports -- I would bet -- would just make those reluctant more reluctant, while also locking them out of society. There are plenty of other ethical concerns, but it's worrying.
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31/03/2021 14:25:13 7 9
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I missed the word "required" in this. ".. we will reach required vaccination levels..."
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31/03/2021 14:16:25 123 42
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I think the kids own immune system has proved more than capable of keeping them "well protected" to so far.....
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31/03/2021 14:19:47 128 68
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Do their own immune systems prevent them from spreading the virus to older members of their families?
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31/03/2021 14:35:45 30 13
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The vulnerable are vaccinated. Nigh on 100% successful at preventing severe disease.

Remember authoritarian thugs stole our freedoms to “save the NHS”. Not to prevent cases.

I don’t care how many have Covid versus how many have the common cold. It’s the numbers clogging up ICU that I care about.
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31/03/2021 14:26:27 24 12
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No, and neither will the vaccine.
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dc
31/03/2021 14:49:30 3 0
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I don't know... do they?
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31/03/2021 14:59:58 11 11
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The jabs do not do this either, for anyone.
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31/03/2021 15:26:05 12 6
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But the older have had their jabs, so why fear children not vaccinated? Or you're salesman for Pfizer? You people lost your mind and if vaccines are magic solution then why scientists and government want whole Europe and rest of the world to get vaccinated before we go back to normality? Seems to me they've invested in pharmaceutical shares and want everyone to get the jab!
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31/03/2021 15:43:01 3 1
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In a number of instances yes, because they are largely asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms so less likely to pass it on. Not so true in older children though where this might be of benefit.
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31/03/2021 15:53:14 1 0
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The ones that should be vaccinated?
Removed
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31/03/2021 17:44:07 5 0
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Both comments are wrong.
Children's immune systems aren't that well developed, but neither are their respiratory systems.
They don't tend to get infected with Covid as they're not able to inhale enough virus to overload their immune system, thus can't she'd virus to infect others.
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31/03/2021 19:14:18 0 1
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Also do their own immune systems prevent mutations that are resistant to the vaccine?
31/03/2021 21:43:31 0 0
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Yes... do you know how vaccines work?
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31/03/2021 14:20:01 16 24
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children are also well protected from covid via their own immune systems. The vaccine to a child serves no purpose other than to make big pharma billions. if you're a parent with young kids, do not let big pharma or government cronies inject the covid vaccine into your kids, their immune system will do the job.
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31/03/2021 14:21:34 14 13
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You must have a sad life to be so mistrustful and suspicious.
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31/03/2021 14:25:19 0 2
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Couldn't agree more.
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31/03/2021 14:22:22 0 2
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how dare you tell me what to do.
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31/03/2021 16:17:24 0 0
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And for the children with immune systems damaged by cancer etc? Or did you not think that far?
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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 16
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But Big Pharma has to get its pound of flesh out of the pandemic.

Especially at >GBP25 per shot.

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31/03/2021 14:20:10 3 0
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It's nothing like that at all. $2 to $5 is more like it worldwide.
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31/03/2021 14:48:11 1 0
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This is about the Pfizer vaccine, not AZ and they are charging more than £25 per shot. It is only AZ who are providing vaccines at cost.
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31/03/2021 14:48:18 0 0
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Not for the Pfizer vaccine which this study was for.

RTA

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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 14
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Teachers should be vaccinated as a priority.
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31/03/2021 14:20:13 9 1
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We all know people couldn’t care less about teachers, as long as the schools are open
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31/03/2021 14:09:08 21 24
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They’re well protected from Covid full stop ??
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31/03/2021 14:20:17 12 19
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How does this have so many dislikes. Children are exceptionally low risk. In fact, adults under 70 are more likely to die in a car crash than of COVID. I hope people start appreciating how much the Gov't has done to inflate the risks.
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31/03/2021 14:32:18 6 2
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Although children still get infected they show little to no symptoms. BUT , recent studies are showing even although this is the case they are fully capable of spreading the virus including to the vulnerable. It also give the virus a platform to mutate with possibly more dangerous mutations.
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dc
31/03/2021 14:35:49 5 6
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The dislikes on this topic are extremely suspicious to say the least. I know of nobody personally with whom vaccinating kids against covid sits well morally or ethically.
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31/03/2021 14:50:40 0 0
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I agree with your sentiment but the death toll in road traffic collisions in the UK is approximately 2000 per year so Covid is killing a fair few more than RTCs.

Fair balance: Covid 150k in a pandemic year, cancer + dementia + circulatory disease 500k _every_ year
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31/03/2021 15:39:18 0 0
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I'm not - I don't get into cars at the moment.
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31/03/2021 16:11:26 0 0
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Apart from the children with cancer, heart disease, congenital diseases, rheumatological conditions, about to go on immune suppressing therapy etc.
For these children, the fact we now know this vaccine to be safe and effective may prove to be very important.
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31/03/2021 14:14:54 26 2
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What we need to understand next is what is a normal case rate for Covid compared to say 'flu? It's clearly not going to be zero, but if we get rid of the hospitalisations, how many cases are really normal? How many actual cases of flu are there each year?
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31/03/2021 14:20:37 59 17
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Twenty thousand deaths from flu in a normal year, more in some, and society has accepted this.

Stands to reason that society will accept it for COVID too. Sure there may be a selfish and vocal minority who call for more restrictions when deaths start creeping up but most people just want to get busy living.
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31/03/2021 15:29:14 13 3
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Absolutely. But in this age of pandering to the minority I really do fear that we've started down a slippery slope where the removal of rights isn't seen as a shocking act of violation.
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31/03/2021 15:31:35 9 8
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Interesting that anti-Vaxxers claim 20k die "from Flu" in a normal year, but that those reported by HMG died "with Covid, not from Covid"

You need to make up your minds guys
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Ian
31/03/2021 18:15:52 7 1
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We do not accept flu deaths which is why there is so much work on flu vaccinations each year.
Moron Tory BOT. Bet he gets a hissy fit and this post is taken down within 5 mins. Bloody thin skinned Tory scum. Can dish it out but can't take it. Removed
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31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 16
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But Big Pharma has to get its pound of flesh out of the pandemic.

Especially at >GBP25 per shot.

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31/03/2021 14:20:50 7 0
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AZ/Oxford are doing it at cost
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 14:21:31 67 86
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So that schools can open safely
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31/03/2021 14:23:37 32 19
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They are open and they are safe. Next question?
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31/03/2021 14:25:46 18 11
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How will they open safely? The vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus, it simply prevents you from getting ill. You can still transmit it.
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31/03/2021 15:06:32 8 4
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But it doesn’t stop transmition to others. Also, if the vulnerable have been vaccinated, they should be safe anyway. This would have been the opportunity for natural immunity to build in the younger age group without the need for vaccines
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31/03/2021 15:44:29 3 1
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The schools are open safely. Been open 3.5 weeks and infections have dropped 25% since then.
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31/03/2021 15:55:00 0 3
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Why are the staff not vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 15:58:08 4 1
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then vaccinate the vulnerable
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31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
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Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
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31/03/2021 14:21:32 17 13
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So we should have lockdown until there is no risk to anyone of dying from COVID? Presumably then we should all have liberties taken away to reduce the risk of diabetes and heart attack. No soft-drinks and chocolate for anyone until there is no risk of diabetes! Nobody's safe until we're all safe!
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31/03/2021 14:35:58 3 4
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Spoken like a true covid cult member
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31/03/2021 15:54:42 0 0
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People all have a responsibility to society at large. Apparerently, you don't want to do your bit.
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31/03/2021 14:20:01 16 24
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children are also well protected from covid via their own immune systems. The vaccine to a child serves no purpose other than to make big pharma billions. if you're a parent with young kids, do not let big pharma or government cronies inject the covid vaccine into your kids, their immune system will do the job.
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31/03/2021 14:21:34 14 13
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You must have a sad life to be so mistrustful and suspicious.
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31/03/2021 14:24:03 3 4
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Mistrustful of a Gov't that has overseen one disastrous COVID policy after another? Whatever do you mean!
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31/03/2021 14:22:01 56 21
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The Pfizer war on AstraZeneca continues!
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31/03/2021 18:20:23 6 14
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To promote a vaccine that is unnecessary for the healthy population ie. nearly everyone.
31/03/2021 22:50:58 0 0
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Gathering data is not a war .
01/04/2021 11:10:41 0 0
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AstraZeneca are very good at waging a war against themselves... by being dishonest with US authorities and by only delivering a fraction of the doses they were supposed to deliver in Q1: in EU and India only 25%, in Australia about 10%...
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31/03/2021 14:21:31 67 86
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So that schools can open safely
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31/03/2021 14:23:37 32 19
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They are open and they are safe. Next question?
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31/03/2021 14:23:46 42 15
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What a sorry state of affairs, pharma companies wasting years of scientific experience and knowledge in doing these tests when they could have just come to the combined wisdom of the Have Your Say crowd who of course know far better!
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31/03/2021 14:26:26 28 18
bbc
Of course, a public concerned over their safety and of their children are to be discarded. We should listen to multi-billion dollar companies who are guided by profits.
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31/03/2021 14:26:51 5 6
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the same pharma companies that over the years have had to pay out billions , let strust everything they say as gospel shall we
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
31/03/2021 19:47:28 0 1
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Unfortunately, Pfizer have a history, and not one that makes then a trustworthy provider.
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31/03/2021 14:21:34 14 13
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You must have a sad life to be so mistrustful and suspicious.
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31/03/2021 14:24:03 3 4
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Mistrustful of a Gov't that has overseen one disastrous COVID policy after another? Whatever do you mean!
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 14:24:36 10 29
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Because they won't always be children...?
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31/03/2021 14:35:09 20 8
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Wow, so vaccine protects children for most of their life does it? I don't remember reading about this. Please do publish the data to support this important research
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31/03/2021 14:45:19 21 3
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@"Because they won't always be children...?"

If they catch covid as children, then that's likely to build up their immunity naturally ready for adulthood

Some scientists think that if the common cold had appeared out of nowhere right now, we'd have the same problems with that.

The reason colds aren't serious is because we build up broad immunity from regular infection when younger
31/03/2021 21:46:09 0 1
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Vaccines don’t last long
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 14:24:46 10 23
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Yes I know it’s low chance of getting and even less dying but they could still get it
31/03/2021 19:40:48 0 1
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On this basis children should not travel in cars, walk near a road, go swimming, climbing trees or any other activity that they have a minimal chance of coming to harm from
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31/03/2021 14:24:52 4 4
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It might be a good idea to differentiate between pre pubescent children and post pubescent adolescents in any reporting not just for covid. Headline using the word "children" is misleading when the body copy correctly states "adolescents".
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31/03/2021 14:35:04 1 1
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How do you do that? Many kids aren't pre or post, they are in the middle of it!
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31/03/2021 14:14:39 138 43
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The Pfizer propaganda consortium headed by Merkel and Macron certainly doing their job well.
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31/03/2021 14:25:06 41 156
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I guess we should rejoin the EU then - makes too much sense not to.

Rejoin referendum 2022 anyone?
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31/03/2021 14:28:49 17 3
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Good luck with that !!!
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31/03/2021 14:35:51 17 4
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Why?
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31/03/2021 14:48:43 21 5
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What on earth for? It took long enough to get out of it! Why are you talking about? What a peculiar comment, unless you are being ironic
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31/03/2021 16:48:09 2 5
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Only a fool would join the EU now, after them completely and falsely claiming our vaccine was a problem, stopping exports etc and basically destroying any credibility they had left ! The EU is finished now, there will be a massive exodus of investment after this.
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31/03/2021 17:02:10 2 3
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Lol no thanks. That Hilarious
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31/03/2021 17:39:04 3 3
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Rejoin the Eu that corrupt bunch who only want U.K. money you must be joking.
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31/03/2021 18:03:22 1 1
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I think you missed the irony
01/04/2021 11:06:34 0 0
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Never the EU , is finished
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31/03/2021 14:18:37 37 32
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Well said. Plenty of evidence to suggest that we will reach vaccination levels through voluntary means. Vaccine passports -- I would bet -- would just make those reluctant more reluctant, while also locking them out of society. There are plenty of other ethical concerns, but it's worrying.
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31/03/2021 14:25:13 7 9
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I missed the word "required" in this. ".. we will reach required vaccination levels..."
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31/03/2021 14:20:01 16 24
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children are also well protected from covid via their own immune systems. The vaccine to a child serves no purpose other than to make big pharma billions. if you're a parent with young kids, do not let big pharma or government cronies inject the covid vaccine into your kids, their immune system will do the job.
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31/03/2021 14:25:19 0 2
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Couldn't agree more.
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31/03/2021 14:25:25 95 10
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I note Pfizer feels 2260 subjects are sufficient for safety data, yet the number in the AZ trial in the US being greater wasn't sufficient.
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DG
31/03/2021 14:49:03 17 7
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yes...a very tiny trial submitted to US regulators. Children have so infinitesimally small chance of serious covid-19 that they are usually more likely to develop serious conditions with than from covid-19 with exceptions. More important to vaccinate higher risk children, assess chance of vaccines reducing infectivity in children and modelling of feasibility when adult herd immunity reached
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31/03/2021 14:12:29 37 35
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Why would you need to vaccinate children against an illness that doesn't affect them . More money for big pharma anyone ? Jabbed every year for the rest of their life ! stop this nonsense NOW !!
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31/03/2021 14:25:44 2 6
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They could still get it
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31/03/2021 14:25:50 15 21
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Quite happy to take the vaccine myself, but it wont be going anywhere near my kids.
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31/03/2021 14:34:12 3 2
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Why?
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31/03/2021 14:34:49 3 1
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Why?
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31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
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Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
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31/03/2021 14:25:56 1 1
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What area ???
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31/03/2021 14:23:46 42 15
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What a sorry state of affairs, pharma companies wasting years of scientific experience and knowledge in doing these tests when they could have just come to the combined wisdom of the Have Your Say crowd who of course know far better!
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31/03/2021 14:26:26 28 18
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Of course, a public concerned over their safety and of their children are to be discarded. We should listen to multi-billion dollar companies who are guided by profits.
QED
01/04/2021 10:49:04 0 0
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No you should listen to medical experts who have spent their lives understanding risks and benefits of vaccines, rather than the concerned parents who believe that any adverse incident that happens after vaccination must be due to the jab.
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31/03/2021 14:26:43 6 14
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I think once all adults have been offed they should offer it to kids because I know there is 99% survival rate but they could still get it or even die
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31/03/2021 14:35:47 8 3
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There’s 100% chance we will all die of something. The trouble with this entire cockup is that it is the first time people became aware of their own mortality. Now they falsely believe if we stamp out covid they’ll love forever. Well you won’t. Get over it.
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31/03/2021 14:37:29 4 1
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At least 99.99% of those under 20. The very, very few at risk already have very serious life limiting conditions & those very, very few should be vaccinated - if they (or their parents) want it.
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31/03/2021 14:23:46 42 15
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What a sorry state of affairs, pharma companies wasting years of scientific experience and knowledge in doing these tests when they could have just come to the combined wisdom of the Have Your Say crowd who of course know far better!
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31/03/2021 14:26:51 5 6
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the same pharma companies that over the years have had to pay out billions , let strust everything they say as gospel shall we
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
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31/03/2021 14:26:58 7 9
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protected from what?
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31/03/2021 14:30:13 3 0
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Madness
8
31/03/2021 14:13:31 14 14
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Teachers should be vaccinated as a priority.
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31/03/2021 14:16:26 4 0
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From whom would you take the vaccine to vaccinate them?
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dc
31/03/2021 14:28:13 13 19
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Children don't need it! End of conversation. Next.
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31/03/2021 14:11:36 25 27
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Get vaccinated, it’s that simple.
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31/03/2021 14:28:40 3 3
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Why?
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
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31/03/2021 14:28:41 31 21
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Its not about children. Its about spreading. Schools, like churches pubs, workplaces and other large scale indoor environments remain superspreader conduits into whole families. There's no chance of getting down to v low levels and mutations without vaccinating attendees of all.
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31/03/2021 14:45:24 5 9
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What a load of tosh!
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31/03/2021 14:51:13 3 8
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That’s just made up rot! There is no solid reliable unbiased valid evidence to suggest that at all.
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31/03/2021 15:08:25 6 5
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Ha, and so the selfishness of the lockdown brigade is laid bare.
You would enforce a vaccination on children for almost entirely the benefit of older people?
The benefit to the children themseles is negligible.
Since when did our own youth become cattle required for innoculation? Your hipocrisy stinks.
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31/03/2021 17:50:16 2 2
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Children don't spread it!
Numbers in schools reflect spread from adults, not the other way round!
I'd sell my soul to get to the pub but I do not want to live in a world where schools are closed but pubs are open, even if they're being run by militant lefties who have created the Batley Grammar school fiasco!
31/03/2021 20:45:17 0 1
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You mean very low level such as maybe 4000 "cases" a day?
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31/03/2021 14:25:06 41 156
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I guess we should rejoin the EU then - makes too much sense not to.

Rejoin referendum 2022 anyone?
55
31/03/2021 14:28:49 17 3
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Good luck with that !!!
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31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
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Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
56
31/03/2021 14:29:18 4 0
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My 2nd jab was brought forward so 8 1/2 weeks between doses.
57
31/03/2021 14:29:41 14 14
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Here we go. So begins the unnecessary vaccination of our young. They are the least at risk, therefore they don't need this.
68
31/03/2021 14:33:36 9 6
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But they spread it same as the next person.
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31/03/2021 15:40:00 1 0
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Yes they do need vaccinating. Until the virus is snuffed out by vaccination, it can mutate into forms which may affect everyone. The job is only half done.
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31/03/2021 14:30:02 10 2
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Much as I loathe conspiracy theories, but Germany and France keep coming up as the protagonists when talking about AZ. Is it jealousy or profit behind it all?

I understand that the UK supplies are going down a bumpy road at the moment, so why sacrifice the vulnerable by giving their much needed vaccines to children, who are the largest source of infection, but the least likely group to suffer?
887
31/03/2021 18:28:08 1 0
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Did you ever wonder why the UK government has decided to not give AZ to under 50s and instead switch them to Moderna?
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31/03/2021 14:26:58 7 9
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protected from what?
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31/03/2021 14:30:13 3 0
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Madness
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31/03/2021 14:31:27 5 5
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Nope, not a chance........
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31/03/2021 14:31:53 0 1
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p21259

Harrow in Middlesex
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31/03/2021 14:12:13 11 22
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Get them jabbed by the start of the autumn term so we can have a good end to the year too!!
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31/03/2021 14:32:11 5 4
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People are obsessed with the vaccine as if it's the new messiah or something. Where is the justification for vaccinating those who are at virtually no risk?

Perhaps engaging your brain before you comment might be helpful in the future.
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31/03/2021 14:32:13 149 45
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Hey BBC, what happened to that story you ran about Covid wards full of kids?

Is that why we need vaccines for kids? Please do tell us what the outcome of that highly ethical piece of reporting was?

Still waiting to see the photos of these wards.
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31/03/2021 14:56:54 68 26
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spot on. even having the jab does not guarantee you will not catch covid or be able to pass it on. It means the chances are you will not be hospitalised or die from it. So where are all these very ill children?
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pTc
31/03/2021 15:02:49 16 5
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Turns out that the Paediatric Registrar covering those wards the weekend they announced it, said it was scaremongering nonsense. The Matron who claimed it came back and said, it was not 'her' wards, but what she had 'heard about other paediatric departments'
254
31/03/2021 15:21:50 1 0
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Read this and understand..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55518248
502
31/03/2021 15:50:10 12 0
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A FOI request shut that story down.. and there werent wards full of children.
587
31/03/2021 16:43:27 4 8
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I think you may have just made that up. Come on, let's have a link to that particular BBC story. Can't find it - perhaps because it never existed.
772
31/03/2021 17:35:40 3 2
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So the fact that the vaccine is being tested to see if it is safe for kids is not an indication that it will be rolled out for kids. But kids too can suffer awful health issues that make them more susceptible so it's got to be a positive to know that they too can get protection that make make a difference to their lives.
846
31/03/2021 18:03:48 2 4
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They never ran that story, nice try though
923
31/03/2021 18:49:40 1 2
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Well said.

Liars.
994
31/03/2021 19:33:39 1 1
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Give me your address and I’ll post you pics of my friends 5 yr old in hospital
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31/03/2021 14:20:17 12 19
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How does this have so many dislikes. Children are exceptionally low risk. In fact, adults under 70 are more likely to die in a car crash than of COVID. I hope people start appreciating how much the Gov't has done to inflate the risks.
64
31/03/2021 14:32:18 6 2
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Although children still get infected they show little to no symptoms. BUT , recent studies are showing even although this is the case they are fully capable of spreading the virus including to the vulnerable. It also give the virus a platform to mutate with possibly more dangerous mutations.
31/03/2021 19:57:25 0 0
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As far as I was aware the vaccines point was not to stop transmission but rather it was to stop serious illness and death. And as there's still uncertainty over whether it even stops transmission in older recipients what is the actual reason it would be given to children? Because as it stands it surely couldn't be to stop serious illness and death in this age range.
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31/03/2021 14:32:53 11 15
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Good, now vaccinate all the kids too! The way out of this nightmare is that everyone gets vaccinated and we all have annual boosters for variants. At the same time we need to vaccinate the WORLD!
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31/03/2021 14:35:01 1 1
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Not everyone will need a booster. Otherwise we will be vaccinating forever.
84
31/03/2021 14:35:52 3 2
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No its not! Young health people do not need it. Protect the older and vulnerable and the problem is solved without sticking unnecessary chemicals in your arm.
Removed
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W 6
31/03/2021 14:16:26 300 143
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I’m as pro vaccine as anyone and I’ll be taking it when offered but I really don’t like the pressure that’s being applied to get people who don’t really need it to take it. We don’t need domestic vaccine passports and we certainly don’t need kids vaccinated.

We’re lucky to have very low levels of vaccine hesitancy/antivaxx sentiment in the UK. Why are we trying to solve problems that don’t exist?
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31/03/2021 14:32:56 54 38
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If it helps the children stop catching it, they then can't pass it on to granny
820
31/03/2021 17:52:16 3 4
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It doesn’t matter if they pass it on to granny as she’s vaccinated.
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W 6
31/03/2021 14:16:26 300 143
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I’m as pro vaccine as anyone and I’ll be taking it when offered but I really don’t like the pressure that’s being applied to get people who don’t really need it to take it. We don’t need domestic vaccine passports and we certainly don’t need kids vaccinated.

We’re lucky to have very low levels of vaccine hesitancy/antivaxx sentiment in the UK. Why are we trying to solve problems that don’t exist?
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31/03/2021 14:32:56 30 17
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I agree. The idea of vaccine passports is alarming to many, including people like me who are more than happy to take the vaccine when I get the chance. I'm concerned that it is just feeding into the sense of mistrust among a small but not insignificant number of people. Instead of encouraging vaccine take-up it may actually entrench anti-vax sentiment as further evidence of government shenanigans.
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Sam
31/03/2021 16:02:22 3 2
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A vaccine passport to enable travel to and from abroad seems entirely sensible, at least initially as it will get the industry back on track for everyone sooner. Don't support it domestically. I support vaccinating children if proven safe as we do for measles etc. seems silly not to.
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Ian
31/03/2021 19:08:01 3 0
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Whether we have to prove we are vaccinated or not is going to be decided by the countries that we may wish to visit.
Our government will have little say.

We already need proof of inoculations to visit certain countries and this has been 'normal' for many years.
57
31/03/2021 14:29:41 14 14
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Here we go. So begins the unnecessary vaccination of our young. They are the least at risk, therefore they don't need this.
68
31/03/2021 14:33:36 9 6
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But they spread it same as the next person.
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Lim
31/03/2021 14:42:20 1 1
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The scientific literature shows that kids aren't the main drivers of the spread. The ECDC summarise it here "Younger children appear to be less susceptible to infection, and when infected, less often lead to onward transmission than older children and adults." https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/children-and-school-settings-covid-19-transmission
69
31/03/2021 14:33:42 68 20
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What’s wrong with their immune systems? I thought levels of covid illness in the young were statistically nonexistent.
198
31/03/2021 15:06:05 67 45
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We need to vaccinate 80% (at a minimum) of the population in order to achieve herd immunity.

We're not vaccinating kids to stop them from dying. We're vaccinating them to achieve herd immunity. Thus protecting the older people (some of whom can't/won't take the vaccine).

This protects our hospitals and allows us to get our lives back to normal.

Not that hard to understand.......
505
31/03/2021 16:16:59 4 0
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Obesity effects immunity.
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Ian
31/03/2021 18:20:25 3 2
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There have even been babies dying from Covid and we still are not sure of the long term harm that Covid may cause to people that show no initial symptoms.

Then there is the very real risk of mutations and the only way to minimise that risk without locking down for ever is through mass vaccination.
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31/03/2021 14:34:09 39 25
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There is only very small probability children would develop any more serious form of Covid 19, therefore there's no need to vaccinate them. Argument that they can infect others doesn't stand if the more vulnerable have been immunised.
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Ron
31/03/2021 14:37:34 30 15
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The Vaccine does not stop you getting the virus 100% and it is not 100% effective in preventing serious illness so your argument does not stack up.
99
31/03/2021 14:40:42 6 8
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"There is only very small probability children would develop any more serious form of Covid 19, therefore there's no need to vaccinate them" Completely wrong, if you give the virus a breeding platform (children) it is going to mutate freely and possibly to a current variant immune to the vaccine.
358
31/03/2021 15:45:31 4 2
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"Argument that they can infect others doesn't stand if the more vulnerable have been immunised."

And what about all the old people who can't take the vaccine for medical reasons, what about all the pregnant women who can't take the vaccine, what about the anti-vaxxers who won't take the vaccine?

There are plenty of vulnerable people who are not immunised. Hence we need to keep vaccinating.
45
31/03/2021 14:25:50 15 21
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Quite happy to take the vaccine myself, but it wont be going anywhere near my kids.
71
31/03/2021 14:34:12 3 2
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Why?
482
31/03/2021 16:13:05 1 1
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Because the vaccines are still at an early stage of development and covid poses a minimal risk to youngsters. I'm happy to take one for the team but they wont be. Talk of herd immunity is boolers, if you have the jab you personally have protection and i'll not be using my kids to boost the numbers to protect those who choose not to have it.
72
31/03/2021 14:34:41 5 7
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If children don’t need a vaccine, why would they even be bothering with these trials? They must know a bit more than Karen on the internet about this stuff.
98
31/03/2021 14:40:32 3 5
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Gotta be seen to be Doing Something - and as Governments the world over have an open cheque book so far as the coronavirus is concerned, keep refreshing the fear >8-(
114
31/03/2021 14:47:15 2 1
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It’s all about the money
126
31/03/2021 14:49:45 0 2
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Maybe they want to be prepared in case future variants emerge that affect children more.
45
31/03/2021 14:25:50 15 21
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Quite happy to take the vaccine myself, but it wont be going anywhere near my kids.
73
31/03/2021 14:34:49 3 1
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Why?
65
31/03/2021 14:32:53 11 15
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Good, now vaccinate all the kids too! The way out of this nightmare is that everyone gets vaccinated and we all have annual boosters for variants. At the same time we need to vaccinate the WORLD!
74
31/03/2021 14:35:01 1 1
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Not everyone will need a booster. Otherwise we will be vaccinating forever.
93
31/03/2021 14:38:27 4 0
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We will be vaccinating forever.
39
31/03/2021 14:24:52 4 4
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It might be a good idea to differentiate between pre pubescent children and post pubescent adolescents in any reporting not just for covid. Headline using the word "children" is misleading when the body copy correctly states "adolescents".
75
31/03/2021 14:35:04 1 1
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How do you do that? Many kids aren't pre or post, they are in the middle of it!
76
31/03/2021 14:35:06 164 20
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AstraZeneca £3 a jab given at cost, Pfizer £15 a jab and £10 profit.
206
31/03/2021 15:07:44 185 83
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Not related to this comment.

But is anyone else starting to come across a disturbing number of anti-vaxxers in this HYS?

Go back to worrying about whether or not the earth is flat. At least that doesn't harm anyone around you!!
212
31/03/2021 15:08:53 12 2
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Moderna's is £28
237
31/03/2021 15:08:32 34 20
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The EU is desperate, economically it grows weaker all the time. That is why they want governments to spend on their overpriced vaccines, rather than the brilliant AZ one that is being supplied to the world at cost, largely thanks to investment by the UK government.
251
31/03/2021 15:19:44 25 4
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Makes you wonder why Germany seem to dislike the AZ vaccine so much...
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xlr
31/03/2021 15:25:25 30 4
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AZ is the lesser vaccine in terms of raw effectiveness but it is the better vaccine all around. You can store it in a normal fridge and it's much easier to manufacture.
275
31/03/2021 15:26:40 17 1
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Is this factually correct? I thought Pfizer was £38 a jab here in the UK! To be fair the production costs and storage costs for the Pfizer are probably higher than A-Z. But I accept your point that in a pandemic, pharma manufacturers shouldn't be trying to profiteer out of this health crisis. Pfizer is American, but I think their vaccine was developed by a German company BioNtech.
281
31/03/2021 15:28:05 16 5
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Anecdotally AZ has more transient side-effects. I had some for a few days. But in the broad scheme of things this is unimportant
285
31/03/2021 15:29:23 9 4
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Totally correct, so you can see why so many organizations would want to fund investigations into AZ.
364
31/03/2021 15:45:59 6 4
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AZ are doing it at cost price, all the others are doing it for profit, yet AZ are the ones getting the flack particularly from the EU. Something across the channel stinks.
451
31/03/2021 16:05:54 3 4
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The pfizer has to be stored at low temperatures which is the cost difference.
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Amy
31/03/2021 16:13:36 2 1
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Can you tell us how much government money has gone into the various vaccines.

Hint: By far (several billions) AZ has received the most. Look it up.
704
31/03/2021 17:16:07 0 0
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Evidence? Proof|?
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nog
31/03/2021 17:29:28 0 3
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Quality is key here. Quite simply you get what you pay for.
764
31/03/2021 17:32:35 1 0
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Yea, if only buisnesses esses could operate without making a profit and thus money to pay their staff...
??
897
31/03/2021 18:32:37 1 0
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Plus the hundreds of millions from the taxpayer to fund its development.

A sound investment, certainly, and well done them for selling it at cost price “until the pandemic is declared over”, but let’s not kid ourselves we’re only paying £3 a jab...??
31/03/2021 19:37:09 0 2
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Special discount for blood clots and low immunization against certain strains.
37
31/03/2021 14:24:36 10 29
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Because they won't always be children...?
77
31/03/2021 14:35:09 20 8
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Wow, so vaccine protects children for most of their life does it? I don't remember reading about this. Please do publish the data to support this important research
818
31/03/2021 17:51:53 1 0
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MMR?
Polio?
Tetanus?
Tuberculosis?
Notice they're not big problems, but barring a rusty nail you only get them in your youth?
And people think tiny Blair's education policies weren't a race to the bottom!
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31/03/2021 14:12:29 37 35
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Why would you need to vaccinate children against an illness that doesn't affect them . More money for big pharma anyone ? Jabbed every year for the rest of their life ! stop this nonsense NOW !!
78
31/03/2021 14:35:15 7 6
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They can get it and pass it on to granny
773
31/03/2021 17:37:04 0 0
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And there’s that old chestnut god give me strength
79
31/03/2021 14:35:24 70 9
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Kids "well protected" from what? Hardly any kids will even notice if they contract Covid.

Protecting adults from kids is a completely different matter!
668
31/03/2021 17:08:05 14 5
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No doubt Germany and France will find problems with it !
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Ian
31/03/2021 18:23:53 2 0
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The more that get Covid, the more likely there will be mutations and they could be a hell of a lot more serious.

There is also a question make about long term problems caused by Covid even when the initial infection gave few symptoms.
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31/03/2021 14:19:47 128 68
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Do their own immune systems prevent them from spreading the virus to older members of their families?
80
31/03/2021 14:35:45 30 13
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The vulnerable are vaccinated. Nigh on 100% successful at preventing severe disease.

Remember authoritarian thugs stole our freedoms to “save the NHS”. Not to prevent cases.

I don’t care how many have Covid versus how many have the common cold. It’s the numbers clogging up ICU that I care about.
48
31/03/2021 14:26:43 6 14
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I think once all adults have been offed they should offer it to kids because I know there is 99% survival rate but they could still get it or even die
81
31/03/2021 14:35:47 8 3
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There’s 100% chance we will all die of something. The trouble with this entire cockup is that it is the first time people became aware of their own mortality. Now they falsely believe if we stamp out covid they’ll love forever. Well you won’t. Get over it.
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31/03/2021 14:20:17 12 19
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How does this have so many dislikes. Children are exceptionally low risk. In fact, adults under 70 are more likely to die in a car crash than of COVID. I hope people start appreciating how much the Gov't has done to inflate the risks.
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dc
31/03/2021 14:35:49 5 6
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The dislikes on this topic are extremely suspicious to say the least. I know of nobody personally with whom vaccinating kids against covid sits well morally or ethically.
143
31/03/2021 14:54:02 0 0
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Ummm, yeah - I think you've struck the real reason why there is such a resistance to the MMR jab - measles alone is a lot more of a risk to humans aged 1-20 than Covid, mumps is much more dangerous to adults than kids & rubella really isn't an issue except to pregnant women.
40
31/03/2021 14:25:06 41 156
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I guess we should rejoin the EU then - makes too much sense not to.

Rejoin referendum 2022 anyone?
83
31/03/2021 14:35:51 17 4
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Why?
65
31/03/2021 14:32:53 11 15
bbc
Good, now vaccinate all the kids too! The way out of this nightmare is that everyone gets vaccinated and we all have annual boosters for variants. At the same time we need to vaccinate the WORLD!
84
31/03/2021 14:35:52 3 2
bbc
No its not! Young health people do not need it. Protect the older and vulnerable and the problem is solved without sticking unnecessary chemicals in your arm.
31
31/03/2021 14:21:32 17 13
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So we should have lockdown until there is no risk to anyone of dying from COVID? Presumably then we should all have liberties taken away to reduce the risk of diabetes and heart attack. No soft-drinks and chocolate for anyone until there is no risk of diabetes! Nobody's safe until we're all safe!
85
31/03/2021 14:35:58 3 4
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Spoken like a true covid cult member
86
31/03/2021 14:37:05 30 20
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The more it’s forced on us the more it will be rejected. Haven’t they worked this out yet?
100
31/03/2021 14:41:18 20 4
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So .... if vaccines are available but kept secret you’ll demand them in your loudest voice?
201
31/03/2021 15:06:26 6 1
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Who mentioned forced?

Every vaccine this country has ever given has been voluntary, and Covid vaccination for children will be the same.
958
31/03/2021 19:09:51 2 0
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Really? If I'm forced to do something I agree with anyway (like wearing a seatbelt) I just get on with it. Why endanger myself just to make a statement of puerile resistance? I'm not a toddler.
48
31/03/2021 14:26:43 6 14
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I think once all adults have been offed they should offer it to kids because I know there is 99% survival rate but they could still get it or even die
87
31/03/2021 14:37:29 4 1
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At least 99.99% of those under 20. The very, very few at risk already have very serious life limiting conditions & those very, very few should be vaccinated - if they (or their parents) want it.
70
31/03/2021 14:34:09 39 25
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There is only very small probability children would develop any more serious form of Covid 19, therefore there's no need to vaccinate them. Argument that they can infect others doesn't stand if the more vulnerable have been immunised.
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Ron
31/03/2021 14:37:34 30 15
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The Vaccine does not stop you getting the virus 100% and it is not 100% effective in preventing serious illness so your argument does not stack up.
273
31/03/2021 15:26:21 2 4
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So your argument is the vaccine doesn't work so lets go stick it into some kids?
24
31/03/2021 14:20:01 16 24
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children are also well protected from covid via their own immune systems. The vaccine to a child serves no purpose other than to make big pharma billions. if you're a parent with young kids, do not let big pharma or government cronies inject the covid vaccine into your kids, their immune system will do the job.
89
31/03/2021 14:22:22 0 2
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how dare you tell me what to do.
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31/03/2021 14:17:59 109 59
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Covid on the whole is a mild illness in children...why do they need to be vaccinated?
90
31/03/2021 14:23:39 16 15
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Mutations and community transmission
19
31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
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Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
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31/03/2021 14:37:38 4 1
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One dose prevents severe disease and blocking up the NHS.

Since when did you move the goal posts and who gave you the right to put people under house arrest because “someone might get a cough”.
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31/03/2021 14:37:51 84 12
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It’s not fair to solely criticise Pfizer , it’s the EU governments that are advising against the AZ vaccine weekly .

Maybe it is partly political , to deflect hugely damaging criticism away from their vaccination fiasco.
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31/03/2021 14:53:02 40 6
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Of course it is.....
189
31/03/2021 15:00:23 3 3
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We should boycott EU products. The Eu is going to need every penny it can get after this. Let's keep our money in the EU.
465
31/03/2021 16:08:31 2 0
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Actually it is not the EU, their EMA is currently supporting the use of AZ it is specific individual countries such as Germany that are suspending it's use.

First Germany suspended it for over 65's now they are allowing it for over 65's but not under 55.

But despite it's German name it was founded in the USA.
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31/03/2021 16:15:50 1 1
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It’s totally political
01/04/2021 11:09:08 0 0
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It's also India, and Japan, and Australia, and Canada, and Switzerland. All have problems with AZ. The list goes on an on.
74
31/03/2021 14:35:01 1 1
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Not everyone will need a booster. Otherwise we will be vaccinating forever.
93
31/03/2021 14:38:27 4 0
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We will be vaccinating forever.
102
31/03/2021 14:41:47 2 1
bbc
Or at least so long as Big Pharma finds it profitable >8-(
19
31/03/2021 14:18:09 8 10
bbc
Spoke to two people today in the vulnerable group (over 70’s) who both stated that their second doses had been put back at least 2 weeks due to lack of vaccines supply.

Has the Astra Zeneca vaccine been tested for efficacy at 14/15 weeks?

Not good if lockdown is ending before many of the vulnerable have received a second dose.
94
31/03/2021 14:38:44 3 2
bbc
Go away. Lockdown is ending
30
31/03/2021 14:21:31 67 86
bbc
So that schools can open safely
95
31/03/2021 14:25:46 18 11
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How will they open safely? The vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus, it simply prevents you from getting ill. You can still transmit it.
261
31/03/2021 15:23:34 6 1
bbc
The vaccines do have data that they significantly reduce the risk of even getting infected with a low viral load.

They do reduce transmission.
823
31/03/2021 17:53:08 1 0
bbc
That depends entirely on whether your immune system fights it off before you can shed vaccine.
Why are you allowed to vote, can you spell X?
932
31/03/2021 18:58:29 1 0
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The care home data suggests the vaccine can prevent c. 60% of spreading, so you're wrong on that score.
31/03/2021 22:19:43 0 1
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Fairly clear by now that it doesn't even stop you getting ill. It's an IQ test at this point.
23
31/03/2021 14:19:47 128 68
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Do their own immune systems prevent them from spreading the virus to older members of their families?
96
31/03/2021 14:26:27 24 12
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No, and neither will the vaccine.
97
31/03/2021 14:26:36 7 7
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No thanks
72
31/03/2021 14:34:41 5 7
bbc
If children don’t need a vaccine, why would they even be bothering with these trials? They must know a bit more than Karen on the internet about this stuff.
98
31/03/2021 14:40:32 3 5
bbc
Gotta be seen to be Doing Something - and as Governments the world over have an open cheque book so far as the coronavirus is concerned, keep refreshing the fear >8-(
393
31/03/2021 15:51:55 0 0
bbc
Stop supporting the liars.
70
31/03/2021 14:34:09 39 25
bbc
There is only very small probability children would develop any more serious form of Covid 19, therefore there's no need to vaccinate them. Argument that they can infect others doesn't stand if the more vulnerable have been immunised.
99
31/03/2021 14:40:42 6 8
bbc
"There is only very small probability children would develop any more serious form of Covid 19, therefore there's no need to vaccinate them" Completely wrong, if you give the virus a breeding platform (children) it is going to mutate freely and possibly to a current variant immune to the vaccine.
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31/03/2021 15:06:28 6 0
bbc
If people are still as likely to get it when vaccinated, this is where mutations will occur.
86
31/03/2021 14:37:05 30 20
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The more it’s forced on us the more it will be rejected. Haven’t they worked this out yet?
100
31/03/2021 14:41:18 20 4
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So .... if vaccines are available but kept secret you’ll demand them in your loudest voice?