Brexit: UK 'risks falling behind' EU on workers’ rights
31/03/2021 | news | business | 2,191
The EU is working to improve conditions but the UK is not keeping pace, says the TUC.
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31/03/2021 09:33:36 76 48
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One of the biggest con jobs of all time getting the working class to vote Tory. Still when they lose even more rights they can keep warm huddled round the forthcoming 'bonfire of rights and regulations'.............
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31/03/2021 09:57:11 59 31
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For the most of the rich donors who - legally or illegally - funded the leave campaigns, this was their intention all along. To them, it's not a "risk" but the whole point of the exercise.
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31/03/2021 11:11:25 5 6
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It was Labours election(s) to lose. And lose they did because they only cared about the London chattering classes or shirkers. The Tories at least did what the majority of voters wanted them to do.
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31/03/2021 12:58:40 3 5
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That con was undertaken by the Labour party - focusing on woke victimhood and intersectionality with a general disdain for Britain and British (English) culture pushed the working class away.
31/03/2021 19:50:38 0 1
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Of course, anyone who does not vote the way you do must be stupid.
The Conservative party's view of British workers was made clear in a book, "Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Does any British worker recognise this description of yourself?
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31/03/2021 09:38:33 51 72
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Very true, people don’t like hearing the truth
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31/03/2021 09:38:35 24 5
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Maybe they are just basing it off what they themselves are like in the office
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31/03/2021 09:39:39 22 9
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More like when you enter the workplace you pay loads of taxes and still need to go to a foodbank to feed your family.
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:43:44 10 12
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And do you deny the statistics that statement's based off?

Nothing wrong with wanting to improve our productivity.
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31/03/2021 10:12:54 22 8
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The problem with UK employment is bosses don't trust the workers and lie, and the workers don't trust the bosses. The bosses are always trying to screw the workers and the workers reciprocate.
Until bosses become trustworthy things will never change
31/03/2021 18:26:47 1 1
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It's pretty obvious from you're statement that you have never lived in a European country. Try getting a tradesman to do a job you'll wait for ever and once they do it will take forever to do the job. British tradesmen in general are faster and do a better job It takes 5 weeks to install a bathroom in Denmark start to finish 5 days in the UK. So you are talking rubbish. Could be you you recognise
31/03/2021 19:40:26 0 1
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As some one that Employs.. the 80 that like Employ the 20 are employed. umm Find your place on the map before commenting, as a business owner there is little difference ... apart from ignorance and fools
31/03/2021 20:29:50 2 0
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thye were projecting their own attributes wrongly across the UK Public. None of them have done a days work in theior lives and their policies knackered UK productivity with over supply of Labour- now comes the age of Automation and Tory Economics and Ideology are no longer a theory-they have proved to be useless and all they know is Entropy and levelling down - unless you are part of the Elite.
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31/03/2021 09:35:25 11 14
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the TUC?
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31/03/2021 09:37:10 17 8
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the Tory Brexiteers?
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31/03/2021 09:37:40 6 2
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Well who else will stand up for workers rights, the tories certainly won't
No. Trade Unions were created by working people to protect their interests. When working conditions are threatened I would absolutely expect the Unions to voice the concerns of the people they represent.
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31/03/2021 09:36:31 28 18
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Even Eurosceptic Corbyn warned about this loss of workers' rights.

Alas, the people who will be affected most didn't listen.
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31/03/2021 09:42:44 14 28
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Sorry you mean comrade corbyn ! I bet you have a pillow with Corby's face on it !
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31/03/2021 09:57:55 3 6
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Yep, the TUC ventriloquist dummy did parrot whatever they told him to. Then they were surprised he was destroyed in the election. Oh well.
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31/03/2021 10:36:42 2 2
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Where does it state any workers rights you currently have will be taken away?
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31/03/2021 09:35:25 11 14
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the TUC?
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31/03/2021 09:37:10 17 8
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the Tory Brexiteers?
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31/03/2021 09:37:21 5 12
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Another HYS on Brexit to keep the sulkers occupied...at least these posts have some purpose
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31/03/2021 09:41:10 13 3
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Well the BBC at least did a fluff piece on the pros of brexit to keep you quitters happy.

Funny though that half of them are pointless or things we could have done anyway.. but hey ho what can you do eh.
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31/03/2021 09:35:25 11 14
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the TUC?
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31/03/2021 09:37:40 6 2
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Well who else will stand up for workers rights, the tories certainly won't
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31/03/2021 09:37:44 6 10
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Breaking news - the unions don't like brexit. That will come as a complete surprise to many
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31/03/2021 09:46:11 9 1
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So, what does that tell you about how brexit will impact workers rights...
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31/03/2021 09:38:07 89 27
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It's difficult to know how much progress was made in workers rights *during* our EU membership against what progress was made *because* of our EU membership.

Yet a fleeting look at some of our history (Black Friday, Peterloo etc) would suggest to me that the EU did help drive our progress, accepting that it wasn't the only factor.
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31/03/2021 10:39:49 74 96
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UK helped drive the EU's progress , more like
31/03/2021 14:04:19 7 1
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If you knew anything about our history you would know that lots of improvements were made well before we joined the EEC.
31/03/2021 19:39:00 0 3
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A very dubious assumption.
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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31/03/2021 09:40:02 5 4
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So, like we always could then?
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31/03/2021 09:40:43 8 2
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The problem we have it that the government never stick to their manifesto pledges. At least being in the EU forced them to maintain our working rights
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31/03/2021 09:44:17 5 0
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The retired Brexiteer boomers don’t care, as workers’ rights don’t affect them.
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31/03/2021 09:51:34 2 2
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"If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will."

That's the quaint, 19th-century theory. IT doesn't actually work like that.
At the last GE, 56% of us who voted, didn't vote Tory.
The 44% who did, gave them an 80-seat majority.

Something Rotten in the State of Britain.
The Conservative party's view of British workers was made clear in a book, "Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Does any British worker recognise this description of yourself?
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31/03/2021 09:38:33 51 72
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Very true, people don’t like hearing the truth
31/03/2021 14:10:12 4 2
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rich from a tory.
The Conservative party's view of British workers was made clear in a book, "Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Does any British worker recognise this description of yourself?
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31/03/2021 09:38:35 24 5
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Maybe they are just basing it off what they themselves are like in the office
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Bob
31/03/2021 09:38:48 54 25
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Obviously, one of the "advantages" of being outside of the union is that one can increase ones competitiveness by, hmmm, trimming down or not keeping up with workers rights. Business ££££ before workers....
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31/03/2021 09:41:47 19 25
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Unless you're trying to export to the EU, then political ideology before business (before workers)
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31/03/2021 12:01:00 0 3
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Did companies such as Sports Direct change their employment practices overnight?
31/03/2021 19:52:28 0 0
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One of the advantages of being outside the Union is that we can strike our own trade deals.
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31/03/2021 09:36:07 6 18
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'Workers rights' is why unemployment is so high in many EU countries. because it is difficult to remove staff if they are not right for the company or not up to the job, employers become wary of taking staff on. The UK has very flexible employment, thus very low unemployment. Main problem in the UK is high accommodation costs, but that is a separate matter.
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31/03/2021 09:42:51 14 5
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Ah yes, unemployment is high because they difficulty sacking people.... do you actually hear yourself, you are literally advocating for zero hour contracts which if you had ever been on you will know are not a good thing
The Conservative party's view of British workers was made clear in a book, "Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Does any British worker recognise this description of yourself?
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31/03/2021 09:39:39 22 9
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More like when you enter the workplace you pay loads of taxes and still need to go to a foodbank to feed your family.
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31/03/2021 12:32:24 4 8
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we pay lower taxes than mainland europe !!!
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:42:02 4 3
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Exactly, and no one's expecting it either. This article is a union stating there is "a risk". Sure, okay, but there is always a risk of things changing.
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31/03/2021 09:42:18 0 3
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Many people already sign contracts that don’t apply all of EU employment rights so some are willing to do so. I am.
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31/03/2021 09:50:24 4 0
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Probably not but a lot of Tories persuaded the gullible to vote for Brexit so they would have fewer rights and thus can be much more easily exploited for their own gain
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31/03/2021 09:54:29 1 4
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Except we didn't and we haven't. Despite what the TUC want you to believe.
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31/03/2021 12:21:43 0 2
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Actually, yes, many of us did. I voted for Brexit knowing that my right to freedom of movement would be removed, thereby effectively giving me less rights. I was happy to accept this reduction in rights for the other benefits I felt would be gained.
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31/03/2021 09:40:00 12 17
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So sometime in the future the EU may/might introduce more unknown legislation which could possibly improve work standards. British unions jump up and down says bbc.
Really? is this the best that the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation "journalists" can come up with.
I think that we might have greater priorities than this!!!
So have you set your priority aside to read and comment on this?
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:40:02 5 4
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So, like we always could then?
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31/03/2021 09:40:38 9 17
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who cares we have seen how the EU move the goal posts to their advantage.. & you think their workers rights are the bible on the subject don't make me laugh !
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31/03/2021 09:48:39 6 1
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"moving the goal posts". Like this, you mean?

Brandon Lewis “I would say to my hon. Friend that yes, this does break international law in a very specific and limited way.”
Robert Buckland: "If I see the rule of law being broken in a way that I find unacceptable then of course I will go"
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31/03/2021 09:37:21 5 12
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Another HYS on Brexit to keep the sulkers occupied...at least these posts have some purpose
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31/03/2021 09:41:10 13 3
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Well the BBC at least did a fluff piece on the pros of brexit to keep you quitters happy.

Funny though that half of them are pointless or things we could have done anyway.. but hey ho what can you do eh.
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31/03/2021 12:16:59 0 3
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Aren't the good things the EU legislate for things that we, across all of Europe, could do anyway without the need for the existence of the EU? Surely it works both ways...
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Bob
31/03/2021 09:38:48 54 25
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Obviously, one of the "advantages" of being outside of the union is that one can increase ones competitiveness by, hmmm, trimming down or not keeping up with workers rights. Business ££££ before workers....
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31/03/2021 09:41:47 19 25
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Unless you're trying to export to the EU, then political ideology before business (before workers)
31/03/2021 21:41:50 0 0
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Is that political ideology in Brussels as it is their barriers that are stopping their members from receiving British goods just to be spiteful
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:42:02 4 3
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Exactly, and no one's expecting it either. This article is a union stating there is "a risk". Sure, okay, but there is always a risk of things changing.
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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31/03/2021 09:42:18 0 3
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Many people already sign contracts that don’t apply all of EU employment rights so some are willing to do so. I am.
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31/03/2021 09:40:10 38 19
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Its the reason the government are quietly importing a compliant workforce by various means
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31/03/2021 09:53:25 38 29
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The only people who actually believed Brexit would help workers were those poor saps, the so-called Lexiters.
31/03/2021 20:01:21 1 0
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Another laughable left wing conspiracy theory.
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:40:43 8 2
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The problem we have it that the government never stick to their manifesto pledges. At least being in the EU forced them to maintain our working rights
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31/03/2021 09:36:31 28 18
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Even Eurosceptic Corbyn warned about this loss of workers' rights.

Alas, the people who will be affected most didn't listen.
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31/03/2021 09:42:44 14 28
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Sorry you mean comrade corbyn ! I bet you have a pillow with Corby's face on it !
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31/03/2021 12:08:58 1 2
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I'd rather a toilet roll with Corbyn's face on it Dazza. I'll await the meltdown and downvotes now haha!!
31/03/2021 13:47:27 0 0
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Rather that than boris’s lying blustering boat race with children’s hair combed with a balloon gawping at you. ??
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31/03/2021 09:36:07 6 18
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'Workers rights' is why unemployment is so high in many EU countries. because it is difficult to remove staff if they are not right for the company or not up to the job, employers become wary of taking staff on. The UK has very flexible employment, thus very low unemployment. Main problem in the UK is high accommodation costs, but that is a separate matter.
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31/03/2021 09:42:51 14 5
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Ah yes, unemployment is high because they difficulty sacking people.... do you actually hear yourself, you are literally advocating for zero hour contracts which if you had ever been on you will know are not a good thing
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31/03/2021 09:53:18 3 3
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Both my boys rely on zero hours contracts to get them through University. In many instances it is a welcome and essential choice.
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31/03/2021 09:46:50 2 5
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Most people on ZHC are perfectly happy with them, surveys always show. It is only the lefty liberal elite who are too privileged to need ZHC who complain about them.
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31/03/2021 09:52:49 2 1
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He's a smug pensioner, presumably ?
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31/03/2021 09:43:06 129 70
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Jacob-Rees Mogg once said that “regulations which are good enough for India are good enough for the UK”. Also, read ‘Britannia Unchained’ authored by some senior members of the government. It may not happen overnight, but I wouldn’t dismiss the warnings too easily.
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31/03/2021 09:51:16 73 39
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Except he said in the negative when discussing emission's and export regulations. Context please.

“We could, if we wanted, accept emissions standards from India, America, and Europe. There’d be no contradiction with that,” Mr Rees-Mogg said.

“We could say, if it’s good enough in India, it’s good enough for here. There’s nothing to stop that.
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31/03/2021 09:51:31 28 17
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In Mogg's world kids would be still crawling up chimneys and clearing out looms in mills
31/03/2021 20:30:44 0 0
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see Leicester Garments factories ...
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31/03/2021 09:43:35 104 65
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Surprise, surprise, Brexit promises not keeping up with the Con reality.

When we start negotiating with Washington over an unfair trade deal watch workers, human and environmental rights go completly missing.

However we in the north needn't worry, Brexit will see the jobs disappear, so we won't need any workers rights as we won't be working
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:45:24 73 51
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The only reality is a trade union complaining about risk. To be fair, that's their job. Nothing has changed or is proposed to change however, so what exactly is your comment based on?
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31/03/2021 09:47:05 16 5
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Oh but Spoons is expanding, that said I’m not sure that Gammon Tim is a good example of model workplace rights.
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31/03/2021 09:50:02 4 21
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Once again the TU C complaint about nothing. As usual Boris keeping his promises.
31/03/2021 19:41:44 0 0
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Surprise, surprise - a BBC Remoaner has found another excuse to whinge and complain.
The Conservative party's view of British workers was made clear in a book, "Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"Once they enter the workplace, the British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Does any British worker recognise this description of yourself?
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:43:44 10 12
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And do you deny the statistics that statement's based off?

Nothing wrong with wanting to improve our productivity.
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31/03/2021 09:53:24 17 1
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Anyone who believes political propaganda is a fool.
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31/03/2021 12:15:23 16 3
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Poor productivity is down to bad management.
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:44:17 5 0
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The retired Brexiteer boomers don’t care, as workers’ rights don’t affect them.
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31/03/2021 12:26:33 0 3
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You seem to have a bit of a problem with a generation - boomers - as you call them. Maybe, just maybe, some of the 'boomers' have children and grandchildren, and the 'boomers' voted for what they thought was best for the entire country going forwards, including the younger generations. You may disagree with their view, but questioning their integrity may appear as bigoted. I'm Gen X by the way.
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31/03/2021 09:40:00 12 17
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So sometime in the future the EU may/might introduce more unknown legislation which could possibly improve work standards. British unions jump up and down says bbc.
Really? is this the best that the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation "journalists" can come up with.
I think that we might have greater priorities than this!!!
So have you set your priority aside to read and comment on this?
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31/03/2021 09:43:35 104 65
bbc
Surprise, surprise, Brexit promises not keeping up with the Con reality.

When we start negotiating with Washington over an unfair trade deal watch workers, human and environmental rights go completly missing.

However we in the north needn't worry, Brexit will see the jobs disappear, so we won't need any workers rights as we won't be working
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:45:24 73 51
bbc
The only reality is a trade union complaining about risk. To be fair, that's their job. Nothing has changed or is proposed to change however, so what exactly is your comment based on?
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31/03/2021 09:47:55 4 1
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Voting intentions. Lol.
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31/03/2021 10:24:24 11 7
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"The only reality is a trade union complaining about risk."

To be fair, all warnings about risks so far have became reality. A full 100%. As opposed to exactly 0% of the promises. Why would this risk be any different? The trend is clear.
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31/03/2021 11:09:17 7 6
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Left wing hyperbole seems to cover it. "risk of" means an absolute truth when it can be used by the BBC.
31/03/2021 14:09:31 0 1
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history - we know the rightwing in Britain.
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31/03/2021 09:37:44 6 10
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Breaking news - the unions don't like brexit. That will come as a complete surprise to many
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31/03/2021 09:46:11 9 1
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So, what does that tell you about how brexit will impact workers rights...
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31/03/2021 09:55:42 2 2
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nothing
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31/03/2021 12:19:31 0 3
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What 'will' happen then Arcangel? Not speculation, or comments to suit an agenda, but facts of what 'will' happen. Or, are you like the rest of us and unable to predict the future?
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31/03/2021 09:43:35 104 65
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Surprise, surprise, Brexit promises not keeping up with the Con reality.

When we start negotiating with Washington over an unfair trade deal watch workers, human and environmental rights go completly missing.

However we in the north needn't worry, Brexit will see the jobs disappear, so we won't need any workers rights as we won't be working
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31/03/2021 09:47:05 16 5
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Oh but Spoons is expanding, that said I’m not sure that Gammon Tim is a good example of model workplace rights.
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31/03/2021 12:46:39 3 3
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I understand that calling people "Gammons" gives the woke a thrill of daring, but it is a racist term and reflects poorly on you. One day you will be embarrassed that you use to use it with such gay abandon.
31/03/2021 21:52:54 0 0
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Only if "government promises there will be no more lock-downs". If I would get promisse from BoJo that I would not be taxed and he gives me a free loan, I could create few tousands of jobs too.
And I will promise to look after staff and their wellbeing too. Really, I do promisse.
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31/03/2021 09:47:33 5 14
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We aren't dropping behind the EU we are just not following them like sheep. The unions need to move on we have left
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31/03/2021 09:50:08 11 1
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Yes, JRMs dream of returning us to Victorian era workers rights & health/ safety is well on track then!!??
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31/03/2021 09:47:35 11 12
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The usual litany of ill-founded snipes on hys. The TUC states that the UK has failed to implement the right of workers to request flexible hours - not true:
https://www.gov.uk/flexible-working#:~:text=All%20employees%20have%20the%20legal,26%20weeks%20to%20be%20eligible.
When Labour stop using workers on ZHC, they and the TUC can pontificate. Till then, those in glass houses...
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31/03/2021 09:52:20 11 2
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I thought Brexit was about improved workers rights & higher wages, now the Tories had gotten rid of the pesky cheap EU labour???

Seems it might be another lie! Just ask the British Gas engineers!??
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OwO
31/03/2021 09:45:24 73 51
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The only reality is a trade union complaining about risk. To be fair, that's their job. Nothing has changed or is proposed to change however, so what exactly is your comment based on?
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31/03/2021 09:47:55 4 1
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Voting intentions. Lol.
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31/03/2021 09:47:56 114 83
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Brexit still delivering its Bonuses... What did you expect??

Cheapo Labour was always on the agenda.
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31/03/2021 09:52:37 81 32
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Screwing your employees doesn't do you much good if you've lost half your customers.
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31/03/2021 09:56:17 12 23
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I think you might find that cheapo labour is exactly what the EU's policy of free movement of people with the accession of the Eastern European block soon to follow was all about. Germany in particular didn't have the people to maintain its manufacturing powerhouse status and the import of cheap labour was their answer.
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31/03/2021 10:00:05 8 21
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In my experience new or old Labour has always been very costly to this country.
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31/03/2021 10:26:14 7 20
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ROFL - Desperate remoaner attempts to deflect from the EU's gutter politics over vaccines. The TUC would sacrifice lives ? You too? Try the Guardian & Socialist Worker on the EU and workers rights

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42434/Six+myths+about+the+European+Union

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/eu-workers-rights-capital-multinationals
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31/03/2021 12:01:00 2 0
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Workers wages have risen since we left?
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31/03/2021 12:42:12 2 3
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"Cheapo Labour was always on the agenda."

Was always the agenda of membership
Why do you think business bring in migrants rather than employ people here?

Membership of the EU & FoM have decimated wages in this country at the lower end of the wage bracket
31/03/2021 19:49:11 0 0
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Brexit bonuses - 62 trade els.
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31/03/2021 09:48:07 11 11
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Yes we've already seen how uncaring this govt is. Billions and billions spent on furlough and other employment protections. The horror

Just as well we have the unions to keep an eye on them
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31/03/2021 10:07:24 7 1
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Time and again the Tories have shown that, once the bosses have got their money out of a failing business, or screwed up so badly that the money has disappeared, they'll dump the employees on the rubbish heap quicker than a transfer of public money to a bit-on-the-side they're sleeping with.
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31/03/2021 09:58:48 3 0
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https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/tory-donors-resorting-to-stealing-childrens-lunch-money/

By now, most of us are familiar with government’s mismanagement of public money during the pandemic. Ineffective procurement processes have led to the outsourcing of £10.5bn contracts without competitive tender, to companies owned by Conservative Party donors and the relatives of MPs
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31/03/2021 11:03:05 0 2
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How on Earth would such an honest statement get thumbs down.
Unless the little blossoms have an agenda
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31/03/2021 09:48:32 17 15
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Headline: "UK 'risks falling behind' EU on workers’ rights"

Excellent news...... Tory policy right on track then!!!??
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31/03/2021 10:06:55 3 18
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If we didn't want it we wouldn't vote for it.
Equally EU risks falling behind UK workers' rights

It's in our hands.
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31/03/2021 09:43:35 104 65
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Surprise, surprise, Brexit promises not keeping up with the Con reality.

When we start negotiating with Washington over an unfair trade deal watch workers, human and environmental rights go completly missing.

However we in the north needn't worry, Brexit will see the jobs disappear, so we won't need any workers rights as we won't be working
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31/03/2021 09:50:02 4 21
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Once again the TU C complaint about nothing. As usual Boris keeping his promises.
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31/03/2021 10:00:34 23 6
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“As usual Boris keeping his promises”

Which promise is that? No threat to our place in the single market, the queue of countries offering us lucrative trade deals, or us holding all the cards? He lied to his employers, wives/mistresses and even the Queen. Why then, should we trust him on this?
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31/03/2021 09:47:33 5 14
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We aren't dropping behind the EU we are just not following them like sheep. The unions need to move on we have left
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31/03/2021 09:50:08 11 1
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Yes, JRMs dream of returning us to Victorian era workers rights & health/ safety is well on track then!!??
67
31/03/2021 09:56:44 1 4
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Really Grow Up
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31/03/2021 12:46:30 0 2
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You really showed him with that response Slim. No attempts at distortion, embellishment or deflection to avoid answering Shock Horror's comment there then...
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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31/03/2021 09:50:24 4 0
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Probably not but a lot of Tories persuaded the gullible to vote for Brexit so they would have fewer rights and thus can be much more easily exploited for their own gain
45
31/03/2021 09:50:41 6 5
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Plus you have Sobriety Tags as an added bonus.
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31/03/2021 09:50:49 71 36
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So far all the promises of Boris's Bodge-it Brexit have NOT been met including single market access, no impact on trade or our fishing fleet, protecting the global status of the City, less red tape for farmers and business. It is a total mess.

So I doubt anyone seriously believes that we will get stronger worker rights - remember the worker represention on company Boards promise killed off?
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31/03/2021 09:53:32 77 42
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Brexit..... so far it's been one big fat lie after another!!! Ooooh shocker!!!??
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31/03/2021 12:30:44 5 2
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But people knew what they were voting for! They knew Boris couldnt be trusted but still they put their votes behind him to do what he wanted to obtain Brexit.....
So........ who is really to blame?
31/03/2021 19:44:16 0 2
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I doubt if anyone will seriously believe that a Remoaner will ever stop whingeing about Brexit.
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31/03/2021 09:43:06 129 70
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Jacob-Rees Mogg once said that “regulations which are good enough for India are good enough for the UK”. Also, read ‘Britannia Unchained’ authored by some senior members of the government. It may not happen overnight, but I wouldn’t dismiss the warnings too easily.
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31/03/2021 09:51:16 73 39
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Except he said in the negative when discussing emission's and export regulations. Context please.

“We could, if we wanted, accept emissions standards from India, America, and Europe. There’d be no contradiction with that,” Mr Rees-Mogg said.

“We could say, if it’s good enough in India, it’s good enough for here. There’s nothing to stop that.
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31/03/2021 10:25:22 19 4
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have you seen the state of air pollution in Indian cities! quite literally to die for!
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31/03/2021 13:22:54 10 7
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Well I'm reading the quote from Moggy from you, and I'm trying to equate it with the point you made, but I am coming to the opposite conclusion and yet you have got 38 Tory Bot votes so far!!

You, later then said "He said we "could" as an example of why we don't.", when there is no logical basis for your conclusion.

In fact, Rees-Mogg doesn't unequivocally say we will keep high standards!
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31/03/2021 09:43:06 129 70
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Jacob-Rees Mogg once said that “regulations which are good enough for India are good enough for the UK”. Also, read ‘Britannia Unchained’ authored by some senior members of the government. It may not happen overnight, but I wouldn’t dismiss the warnings too easily.
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31/03/2021 09:51:31 28 17
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In Mogg's world kids would be still crawling up chimneys and clearing out looms in mills
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31/03/2021 09:51:51 4 11
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Err we left the EU so we would not have to copy all of their legislative changes, not just employment laws. We are an Independent Country.
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31/03/2021 10:03:15 5 2
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“We are an Independent Country.”

If the Brextremists get their trade deal with Washington, I think that myth will sink very quickly. Even Japan forced us into concessions.
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31/03/2021 09:56:07 1 0
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...ruled by a privileged minority we voted out of power by 56% to 44% at the last GE.

Some "independence" that is.
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31/03/2021 09:35:25 11 14
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Be honest did anyone expect anything different from the TUC?
No. Trade Unions were created by working people to protect their interests. When working conditions are threatened I would absolutely expect the Unions to voice the concerns of the people they represent.
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31/03/2021 09:47:35 11 12
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The usual litany of ill-founded snipes on hys. The TUC states that the UK has failed to implement the right of workers to request flexible hours - not true:
https://www.gov.uk/flexible-working#:~:text=All%20employees%20have%20the%20legal,26%20weeks%20to%20be%20eligible.
When Labour stop using workers on ZHC, they and the TUC can pontificate. Till then, those in glass houses...
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31/03/2021 09:52:20 11 2
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I thought Brexit was about improved workers rights & higher wages, now the Tories had gotten rid of the pesky cheap EU labour???

Seems it might be another lie! Just ask the British Gas engineers!??
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31/03/2021 09:59:16 2 2
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The article implies that workers rights will be reduced - that isn't true. To try and deflect by saying that Brexit "was about improved workers rights" is also untrue - where was that stated ? This is simply an attempt by the TUC to get a response from the government that they can then distort. The Labour conference under Corbyn famously used ZHC for security, stewards & cleaners - evil Tories ?
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31/03/2021 12:49:01 0 1
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More deflection and 'whataboutery' there Slim??? To make it entertaining, you could at least try to answer the point made about flexible hours by lvred, instead of this constant deflection....
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31/03/2021 09:47:56 114 83
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Brexit still delivering its Bonuses... What did you expect??

Cheapo Labour was always on the agenda.
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31/03/2021 09:52:37 81 32
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Screwing your employees doesn't do you much good if you've lost half your customers.
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31/03/2021 09:58:19 10 3
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But it still goes on though. After all that new Jag needs paying for.
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31/03/2021 10:22:14 6 2
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losing half your customers will encourage people to do over their employees to claw back some cash!!
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31/03/2021 10:27:21 5 15
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See my reply to Humpty - this is old hat desperate attempt to distract from the EU's gutter politics and vaccine war.

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42434/Six+myths+about+the+European+Union
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31/03/2021 12:23:54 2 0
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That doesnt stop employers from doing just that by using the argument, Booh hoo we lost loads of customers so guess what you lot can either be fired and rehired or made redundant. Win win for the profit margin loose loose for the workers
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31/03/2021 13:01:57 0 3
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Could the BBC do an HYS on its customers? You know. The ones who pay the licence tax?

The ones the BBC are forever screwing?
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31/03/2021 09:42:51 14 5
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Ah yes, unemployment is high because they difficulty sacking people.... do you actually hear yourself, you are literally advocating for zero hour contracts which if you had ever been on you will know are not a good thing
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31/03/2021 09:53:18 3 3
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Both my boys rely on zero hours contracts to get them through University. In many instances it is a welcome and essential choice.
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31/03/2021 09:40:10 38 19
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Its the reason the government are quietly importing a compliant workforce by various means
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31/03/2021 09:53:25 38 29
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The only people who actually believed Brexit would help workers were those poor saps, the so-called Lexiters.
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31/03/2021 12:35:50 3 2
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And so you have worked out how to read the minds of everyone in the county to be able to make that statement - well done you. Now, what number am I thinking of???
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31/03/2021 13:08:40 3 2
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Wrong, I'm a right-wing remainer and I thought brexit would help the workers - primarily by limiting FOM mass migration and closing "the reserve pool of labour" which will increase workers bargaining position on labour, secondarily by reducing competition for accommodation and moderating rents.
31/03/2021 20:03:44 1 0
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How many BBC Remoaner complaints have been like yours? " I voted Remain because I am of superior intelligence to the stupid Brexit supporters".
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31/03/2021 09:53:29 8 6
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Complying with a set of standards is not conducive to being able to screw the most poorly paid workers. This and the EU tax avoidance directive is why we left the EU.
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31/03/2021 09:50:49 71 36
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So far all the promises of Boris's Bodge-it Brexit have NOT been met including single market access, no impact on trade or our fishing fleet, protecting the global status of the City, less red tape for farmers and business. It is a total mess.

So I doubt anyone seriously believes that we will get stronger worker rights - remember the worker represention on company Boards promise killed off?
56
31/03/2021 09:53:32 77 42
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Brexit..... so far it's been one big fat lie after another!!! Ooooh shocker!!!??
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31/03/2021 11:00:07 4 8
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Nice to hear "Your Truth"
31/03/2021 19:45:12 0 2
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The EU - one mess up after another. Remoaners - one whinge after another.
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31/03/2021 09:53:55 173 122
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Err - this was the point of Brexit, wasn't it? Unchain Britannia and its idle Britons (per Priti, Kwasi et al) by undercutting those nasty Europeans who insist on things like workers' rights?

We voted for this, and we're jolly well going to have it *waves flag*
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31/03/2021 10:34:15 135 91
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It is also possible for the electorate to vote for improved workers' rights now we've taken back control
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31/03/2021 11:02:38 6 21
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Ha ha sit down man and get over it
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31/03/2021 10:57:50 2 9
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Doubt those who start a statement with Err
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31/03/2021 11:14:34 4 9
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we aren't undercutting anything yet this has happened yet. Feel free to vote for another party at the next election.
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31/03/2021 12:36:26 8 2
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Thats right! Who cares about workers' rights, you wont need it if you dont have a job! Brexitannia!
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31/03/2021 13:35:20 0 0
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‘those nasty Europeans’ include citizens of ROÍ which has special, historical, genetic, cultural links with the northern part of the same island. Anybody higher than a third rate PM would have grasped the significance of this. Fact is, unionists feel utterly betrayed by Johnson and republicans can’t stand him. Fact two, Brexit will never be ‘done’ like this. How come they’re still negotiating?!
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31/03/2021 13:43:55 0 0
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What workers rights? Because I recall pre-EU the cost of living relative to wages being significantly lower, and now we work long weeks just to earn enough to get by with 60%+ of income going on rent alone.

"Workers rights" is nothing but a cover up of the real damage that system does to what you and I are able to earn.

We didn't even need a minimum wage until we had a near unlimited work force.
31/03/2021 13:46:42 0 0
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’Nasty Europeans’ include ROÍ who are at least as closely linked to citizens of Northern Ireland as those in Britain. Fact is unionists feel utterly betrayed by Johnson, and Republicans can’t stand him. Brexit will never be ‘done’ by upsetting the fragile, painstakingly negotiated GFA. How come, e.g., they are STILL negotiating (in a never ending unsquarable circle? ‘Done’? How absurd !
31/03/2021 19:37:52 0 1
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So who said during the Brexit campaign that British workers were idle? What prejudiced Remoaner rubbish.
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31/03/2021 09:54:19 4 8
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"European Union makes itself a less attractive place to do business" is another headline you could use.

As always a balance is required. No one wants China like slave labour, but EU like unemployment is not so attractive either.
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31/03/2021 09:58:29 8 1
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Race to the bottom? Compete on low pay?
Britain is a consumer economy. We need high pay so the workers buy stuff so our econimy grows.
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31/03/2021 09:39:52 16 5
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Did anyone vote Brexit so they can have fewer rights? I don't think so.
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31/03/2021 09:54:29 1 4
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Except we didn't and we haven't. Despite what the TUC want you to believe.
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31/03/2021 09:46:11 9 1
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So, what does that tell you about how brexit will impact workers rights...
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31/03/2021 09:55:42 2 2
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nothing
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31/03/2021 09:47:56 114 83
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Brexit still delivering its Bonuses... What did you expect??

Cheapo Labour was always on the agenda.
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31/03/2021 09:56:17 12 23
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I think you might find that cheapo labour is exactly what the EU's policy of free movement of people with the accession of the Eastern European block soon to follow was all about. Germany in particular didn't have the people to maintain its manufacturing powerhouse status and the import of cheap labour was their answer.
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31/03/2021 10:06:06 21 4
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Wrong. The minimum wage is set by the national government. The UK simply doesn't want to pay more and Brits don't want to do the work. Then they blame foreigners anyway.
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31/03/2021 10:09:37 16 5
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Eh, would minimum wage requirements not mean that this "cheap labour" from the accessionist countries have to be paid the same as us? so your point doesnt stand.

Also as a country becomes more developed they usually take on more migrant labour as people find low skill jobs below them and thats why there are always vacancies in these areas.
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31/03/2021 10:10:58 13 6
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They have to pay the going rate ion the EU not like the UK wanting to screw it’s employees at every turn. I don’t expect you saw the Deliveroo programme the other night where the average pay for a nights shift was 21 pounds. Which explains why their recently floated share price plunged today by 30%
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31/03/2021 11:25:15 5 2
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Is that why Germany only allowed free movement 7 (seven!) years after the UK? As a matter of fact, most of the EU only extend freedom of movement to the new eastern members, many years after the UK did.
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31/03/2021 13:40:06 2 0
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That's not true...Western European nations like Germany and France blocked Eastern European free movement into their countries for the first 7 years, to protect wages for their own workers, but Tony Blair choose not to do this, allowing Eastern Europeans to come here directly, and many did. The Germans & French are very vigorous at protecting the interests of their own workforce!
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31/03/2021 09:46:27 97 56
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A Prime Minister twice sacked for lying, who lied to the Queen when he unlawfully prorogued Parliament, who broke his agreement with the EU before the ink was dry, whose minority-party government is happy to break the law, and whose Business Secretary started to erode standards and then hurriedly backed down.
Only the terminally blue-blinkered would believe a single word they say.
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31/03/2021 10:38:10 38 55
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believe it?

preferred it to the alternatives that were on offer more like
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31/03/2021 11:12:57 9 3
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Agreed, but sadly there are many millions who do. Add to that the easily conned.
31/03/2021 18:47:19 0 4
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The PM:
* Never lied to the Queen and it was only declared 'unlawful' AFTER the event by creating a new law.
* Never broke any agreement with the EU.
* Holds an 80 seat majority under the same rules that gave Blair a 179 seat majority.
* Leads a Government that has not broken the law.

And the Business Secretary did no such thing.

Only the terminally red blinkered peddle such lies.
31/03/2021 19:43:02 0 3
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Only the terminally red-blinkered would make this type of anti-Tory rant.
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31/03/2021 09:42:51 14 5
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Ah yes, unemployment is high because they difficulty sacking people.... do you actually hear yourself, you are literally advocating for zero hour contracts which if you had ever been on you will know are not a good thing
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31/03/2021 09:46:50 2 5
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Most people on ZHC are perfectly happy with them, surveys always show. It is only the lefty liberal elite who are too privileged to need ZHC who complain about them.
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31/03/2021 09:40:38 9 17
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who cares we have seen how the EU move the goal posts to their advantage.. & you think their workers rights are the bible on the subject don't make me laugh !
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31/03/2021 09:48:39 6 1
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"moving the goal posts". Like this, you mean?

Brandon Lewis “I would say to my hon. Friend that yes, this does break international law in a very specific and limited way.”
Robert Buckland: "If I see the rule of law being broken in a way that I find unacceptable then of course I will go"
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31/03/2021 12:34:17 0 2
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Wasn't that a response to the EU threat to restrict foot imports to N Ireland though? Considering the history of the country, threatening to potentially starve folk in any part of Ireland is pretty inflammatory. And besides, two wrongs don't make a right.
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31/03/2021 09:50:08 11 1
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Yes, JRMs dream of returning us to Victorian era workers rights & health/ safety is well on track then!!??
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31/03/2021 09:56:44 1 4
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Really Grow Up
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31/03/2021 09:57:00 9 7
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Oh? Didn't R-M and Gove say we would quickly outstrip the EU with control of our laws regarding worker's rights or is it a case of "here, have a jab now get back to work"?
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31/03/2021 10:03:58 2 5
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Seeing as, so far, there is nothing to prove or disprove that statement I fail to see what your point is.
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31/03/2021 09:33:36 76 48
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One of the biggest con jobs of all time getting the working class to vote Tory. Still when they lose even more rights they can keep warm huddled round the forthcoming 'bonfire of rights and regulations'.............
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31/03/2021 09:57:11 59 31
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For the most of the rich donors who - legally or illegally - funded the leave campaigns, this was their intention all along. To them, it's not a "risk" but the whole point of the exercise.
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31/03/2021 10:15:28 7 8
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Unlike the Labour funded TUC who have now destroyed the Labour party three times in my lifetime. To them it is the whole point of the exercise I guess?
31/03/2021 19:51:27 0 1
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So 17.4 million people voted Leave because of rich donors?
31/03/2021 21:42:53 0 0
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Forgetting of course that the remain campaign leaflet was funded by Cameron's government
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31/03/2021 09:57:26 8 4
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Freeman
"European Union makes itself a less attractive place to do business" is another headline you could use.

As always a balance is required. No one wants China like slave labour, but EU like unemployment is not so attractive either.

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The majority of the UK working population benefits from the employment rights and not the attractiveness of its business.
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31/03/2021 10:01:46 4 4
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Without businesses, employment rights are not much use.
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31/03/2021 09:36:31 28 18
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Even Eurosceptic Corbyn warned about this loss of workers' rights.

Alas, the people who will be affected most didn't listen.
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31/03/2021 09:57:55 3 6
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Yep, the TUC ventriloquist dummy did parrot whatever they told him to. Then they were surprised he was destroyed in the election. Oh well.
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31/03/2021 11:48:05 3 4
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Corbyn?

The guy who was born and raised in a manor house, surrounded by great wealth and opulence, having had the best private education?

The guy who despite all these great advantages conferred by unearned wealth, totally flunked school, flunked uni as well and consequently has never had a real job in his life? Yet still is a multi-millionaire?

That Corbyn?

Typical leftie!
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31/03/2021 09:52:37 81 32
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Screwing your employees doesn't do you much good if you've lost half your customers.
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31/03/2021 09:58:19 10 3
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But it still goes on though. After all that new Jag needs paying for.
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31/03/2021 09:54:19 4 8
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"European Union makes itself a less attractive place to do business" is another headline you could use.

As always a balance is required. No one wants China like slave labour, but EU like unemployment is not so attractive either.
73
31/03/2021 09:58:29 8 1
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Race to the bottom? Compete on low pay?
Britain is a consumer economy. We need high pay so the workers buy stuff so our econimy grows.
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31/03/2021 10:04:05 1 0
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Hence why I said balance not scrap rights...

But all people can see is "free stuff!"
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31/03/2021 10:06:12 1 1
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Such a flawed view. A falsely inflated wage structure leads to both inflation and higher costs. We as an economy are not here simply to "consume" the product of other economies. If we are then we are truly f.......
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31/03/2021 09:59:09 129 84
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That's one of the key drivers of Brexit... to enable Tory cronies to reverse anything done for the benefit of citizens of the UK.
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31/03/2021 10:36:51 68 62
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The citizens of the UK rejected EU workers' rights for UK workers' rights

direct democracy, though
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31/03/2021 11:22:23 4 9
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Wrong. Sadly, no main party backed brexit, they were all the enemy of the people's will. Then tried on ways to avoid it.

Your party politicking prejudice will not gain support for the others. Note democracy kept backing whoever would get us out. That is why parties are scared on single issue votes. Their self interests are undermined. See HS2.
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31/03/2021 12:27:57 4 1
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so why did so many working class vote for it then?
31/03/2021 19:40:28 0 0
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This is one of the key drivers of Remoaners - complain about everything linked to a Conservative government, whether true or not.
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31/03/2021 09:59:12 108 71
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This was the Tory plan all along.
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31/03/2021 10:19:19 68 31
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Some of them. Others just saw Brexit as a way to make progress in their own careers, get one over their old school rivals, maybe get enough money to keep up with alimony payments, and shower their bits-on-the-side with money.
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31/03/2021 10:19:57 2 22
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but it was said they didn't have a plan, though
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31/03/2021 11:09:31 3 10
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The Tories like all the other main Parties campaigned for Remain.
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31/03/2021 11:07:34 3 5
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Really? Yet Labour is still hemorrhaging supporters to the Conservative Party. Funny that!
31/03/2021 19:48:42 1 1
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And what is Labour's plan? Is there a Labour plan?
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31/03/2021 09:52:20 11 2
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I thought Brexit was about improved workers rights & higher wages, now the Tories had gotten rid of the pesky cheap EU labour???

Seems it might be another lie! Just ask the British Gas engineers!??
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31/03/2021 09:59:16 2 2
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The article implies that workers rights will be reduced - that isn't true. To try and deflect by saying that Brexit "was about improved workers rights" is also untrue - where was that stated ? This is simply an attempt by the TUC to get a response from the government that they can then distort. The Labour conference under Corbyn famously used ZHC for security, stewards & cleaners - evil Tories ?
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31/03/2021 09:50:14 4 12
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The headline should be "TUC want to put more people out of work"
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31/03/2021 10:03:24 9 4
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Brexit has put over 436k people out of work so far.

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

How's that for a headline?
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31/03/2021 09:50:29 6 11
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I'd rather have UK employment law.

Than EU unemployment rates!
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31/03/2021 10:00:59 4 2
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ok, quid a hour it is then
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31/03/2021 10:14:30 3 1
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You can keep the UN report on child poverty in the UK as a bonus?
French healthcare workers received a payrise 2 weeks ago, averaging 183 euros pm.
A UK nurse, on 30k pa, received the cost of a gallon of fuel pw.
UK pensioners also receive one of W. Europes lowest retirement pensions.
Sounds just great!
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31/03/2021 09:47:56 114 83
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Brexit still delivering its Bonuses... What did you expect??

Cheapo Labour was always on the agenda.
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31/03/2021 10:00:05 8 21
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In my experience new or old Labour has always been very costly to this country.
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31/03/2021 10:07:00 22 6
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Debt 2010- 500 Billion
Debt 2021- 2.3 Trillion.
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31/03/2021 09:50:02 4 21
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Once again the TU C complaint about nothing. As usual Boris keeping his promises.
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31/03/2021 10:00:34 23 6
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“As usual Boris keeping his promises”

Which promise is that? No threat to our place in the single market, the queue of countries offering us lucrative trade deals, or us holding all the cards? He lied to his employers, wives/mistresses and even the Queen. Why then, should we trust him on this?
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31/03/2021 10:04:19 13 5
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Not promises to his various wives and mistresses, feckless chancer that he is
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31/03/2021 10:16:24 13 5
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>> As usual Boris keeping his promises
> Which promise is that?

"F*** business."
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31/03/2021 12:41:24 0 4
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Did he lie to the queen or did he give her inaccurate info because he was poorly informed? There is a difference. For example, I could 'promise' to pick my g/f up from work this evening. On the way I get a puncture and it takes me an hour to get it fixed. By that point she has phoned and said she will walk home / get the bus. Have I lied, or have circumstances changed? There is a difference.
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31/03/2021 09:57:26 8 4
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Freeman
"European Union makes itself a less attractive place to do business" is another headline you could use.

As always a balance is required. No one wants China like slave labour, but EU like unemployment is not so attractive either.

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The majority of the UK working population benefits from the employment rights and not the attractiveness of its business.
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31/03/2021 10:01:46 4 4
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Without businesses, employment rights are not much use.
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31/03/2021 10:01:47 0 4
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If the price of bread is the same the world over then you can have the same worker rights, if you have a need to make money they country with the most expensive workers makes the least amount
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31/03/2021 10:11:11 4 0
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Workers rights cover a lot more than pay.
If someone is being paid peanuts elsewhere, for doing the same work someone in the UK does for much more, the worker being paid less has the same right to be treated properly regardless of pay.
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31/03/2021 10:01:58 13 7
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It is an absolute disgrace that soon to be father's are not entitled to paid leave to attend important antinatal scans.
The law needs to change!!!
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31/03/2021 10:13:01 3 8
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Why should they be paid?Isn't that what Annual leave is for?. Next you will be saying that you should get paid time off to go to a wedding. The bottom line is paid time off means more cost to the company. More cost means higher prices to the consumer and arguably fewer jobs
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31/03/2021 10:15:36 1 6
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use your annual leave
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31/03/2021 10:02:03 97 64
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So many of our workers' protections came from our time in Europe.....Equal pay....Working Time directive.., but Tories see these as red tape.....and restrictions on Employers.....Dignity counts and we are in danger of "backsliding"....Then this is what Boris wanted....Singapore on Thames!!
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31/03/2021 10:13:51 98 47
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The irony is that many export businesses are drowning in a sea of red tape thanks to Brexit and the piss-poor deal Johnson got.
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31/03/2021 10:14:02 13 3
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Indeed. The risk to workers' rights was obvious - as was the support for Brexit from those who see worker's rights as a problem to be solved rather than necessary protections.
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31/03/2021 10:33:31 15 4
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Equal Pay Act 1970 did not come from Europe. It is UK legislation.
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31/03/2021 12:21:54 4 1
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The EU was not responsible for the Equal Pay Act or the Sex Discrimination Act. Nor was it Brussels that led to the passing of the Health and Safety at Work Act or the Employment Protection Act. EU minimum holidays 4 weeks - we get over 5 1/2 weeks,
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31/03/2021 10:02:04 14 9
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Irony of all ironies
"Britannia Unchanged" co-authored by 5 Ministers: Patel; Raab; Truss; Kwarteng; Skidmore.
"We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

nice to see some candour from these vile buttwipes for once, albeit a bit understated lol

but there's nothing in there about job-preservation by brown-nosing the boss tho'

bit of an omission, if you ask me
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Why should gammons care, it’s only their grandkids? Removed
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31/03/2021 10:12:00 18 21
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ooooh, casual bigotry. I though you modern day socialists hated that sort of thing? Guess only when it suits..
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31/03/2021 09:38:12 8 15
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This is one of the reasons we left the EU so that we could choose which bits of legislation we want to apply here. If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will.
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31/03/2021 09:51:34 2 2
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"If people don’t like that the government may not bring in these measures then they always have the opportunity to vote in a government that will."

That's the quaint, 19th-century theory. IT doesn't actually work like that.
At the last GE, 56% of us who voted, didn't vote Tory.
The 44% who did, gave them an 80-seat majority.

Something Rotten in the State of Britain.
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31/03/2021 10:33:46 1 2
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When asked about alternative methods of voting, we rejected them in favour of FPTP.

Nothing is rotten, no govt has been in power with over 50% of the vote in over 100 years.
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31/03/2021 09:42:51 14 5
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Ah yes, unemployment is high because they difficulty sacking people.... do you actually hear yourself, you are literally advocating for zero hour contracts which if you had ever been on you will know are not a good thing
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31/03/2021 09:52:49 2 1
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He's a smug pensioner, presumably ?
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31/03/2021 09:51:51 4 11
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Err we left the EU so we would not have to copy all of their legislative changes, not just employment laws. We are an Independent Country.
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31/03/2021 10:03:15 5 2
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“We are an Independent Country.”

If the Brextremists get their trade deal with Washington, I think that myth will sink very quickly. Even Japan forced us into concessions.
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31/03/2021 09:50:14 4 12
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The headline should be "TUC want to put more people out of work"
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31/03/2021 10:03:24 9 4
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Brexit has put over 436k people out of work so far.

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

How's that for a headline?
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31/03/2021 10:13:03 2 0
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Wow! Confusing Yorky with facts!! He really won't like that!!!??
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31/03/2021 10:03:52 1 2
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Test
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31/03/2021 09:57:00 9 7
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Oh? Didn't R-M and Gove say we would quickly outstrip the EU with control of our laws regarding worker's rights or is it a case of "here, have a jab now get back to work"?
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31/03/2021 10:03:58 2 5
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Seeing as, so far, there is nothing to prove or disprove that statement I fail to see what your point is.
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31/03/2021 09:58:29 8 1
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Race to the bottom? Compete on low pay?
Britain is a consumer economy. We need high pay so the workers buy stuff so our econimy grows.
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31/03/2021 10:04:05 1 0
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Hence why I said balance not scrap rights...

But all people can see is "free stuff!"
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31/03/2021 10:00:34 23 6
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“As usual Boris keeping his promises”

Which promise is that? No threat to our place in the single market, the queue of countries offering us lucrative trade deals, or us holding all the cards? He lied to his employers, wives/mistresses and even the Queen. Why then, should we trust him on this?
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31/03/2021 10:04:19 13 5
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Not promises to his various wives and mistresses, feckless chancer that he is
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31/03/2021 10:04:41 9 8
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Brexit now gives employers a free hand to treat workers poorly. Cheap labour was always the name of the game with no rights or benefits such as pension.
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31/03/2021 09:56:17 12 23
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I think you might find that cheapo labour is exactly what the EU's policy of free movement of people with the accession of the Eastern European block soon to follow was all about. Germany in particular didn't have the people to maintain its manufacturing powerhouse status and the import of cheap labour was their answer.
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31/03/2021 10:06:06 21 4
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Wrong. The minimum wage is set by the national government. The UK simply doesn't want to pay more and Brits don't want to do the work. Then they blame foreigners anyway.
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31/03/2021 10:29:25 2 10
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Ah, Kitty ,you've turned up, now we have the 3 stooges trying to turn the spotlight from the EU's gutter politics over vaccines to very old news, used to try and influence the referendum vote. Poor Kitty, here's an article from the Guardian on the very subject.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/eu-workers-rights-capital-multinationals
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31/03/2021 12:54:39 1 1
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Actually it was partly true Strawman. It's correct the UK doesn't want to pay more, and that many UK folk don't want to work, because they cannot make a reasonable living on it or will need in work benefits to make ends meet. To get around that problem, the jobs are filled with cheaper labour from the EU who are willing to do the work. And the poster was referring to German industry, not the UK.
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31/03/2021 09:58:29 8 1
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Race to the bottom? Compete on low pay?
Britain is a consumer economy. We need high pay so the workers buy stuff so our econimy grows.
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31/03/2021 10:06:12 1 1
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Such a flawed view. A falsely inflated wage structure leads to both inflation and higher costs. We as an economy are not here simply to "consume" the product of other economies. If we are then we are truly f.......
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31/03/2021 10:13:29 1 0
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econimy? Please excuse my typo doesn't add to my erudition.

Our exchequer has always relied on duties and indirect taxes for its income. If the population does't get out there and spend less duty and VAT and so on.
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31/03/2021 09:48:32 17 15
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Headline: "UK 'risks falling behind' EU on workers’ rights"

Excellent news...... Tory policy right on track then!!!??
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31/03/2021 10:06:55 3 18
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If we didn't want it we wouldn't vote for it.
Equally EU risks falling behind UK workers' rights

It's in our hands.
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31/03/2021 10:19:42 1 1
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"It's in our hands."

Literally NOTHING is in your hands any more. You signed a blank cheque in 2016 and another one in 2019. With that, you have given away your right to anything.
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31/03/2021 10:00:05 8 21
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In my experience new or old Labour has always been very costly to this country.
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31/03/2021 10:07:00 22 6
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Debt 2010- 500 Billion
Debt 2021- 2.3 Trillion.
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31/03/2021 10:31:37 2 11
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Yet we aren't in the top 10 debtor nations, the US are, (better hope the 'new Bretton Woods' doesn't drop the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Then there are the 4 Southern European Tourist economies in there too, Italy, Portugal, Spain and Greece. Draghi got shoved into Italy as unelected PM to try and save them, IF they default, bye, bye, Eurozone!
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31/03/2021 11:32:27 2 4
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deficit when Labour left office 155bn a year, hence the debt rose. It took 'austerity', ie raising Govt spending slower, to reign in the over blown spending, in the meantime yearly deficit creates bigger debt pile.
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31/03/2021 12:27:45 1 1
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Yep but financial mismangement wasn'y the issue in 2020-2021 its was a Global Pandemic which shafted every economy on the Globe. So if alot of the nay sayers on here fancied loosing their homes, and all the other accoutrements when their employers had no income to pay their wages so Government stepped in hence the debt 9 months paid holiday can't be that bad really ;-)
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31/03/2021 12:56:01 2 4
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And your point is??? Please don't be one of those folk who have no understanding of a budget deficit, total debt and how the former influences the latter.