Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection
30/03/2021
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In the oldest people, roughly 90% had signs of protection against the virus in their blood.
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Has the BBC sorted out the HYS issues yet?
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So far they've tried turning it off and back on again
That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
This is an issue of the AI trying to getting to grips with the IQ of HYSers.
Is this reality real?
Is this reality real?
Many of us never stopped working!
Never been away from it mate.
Got all of last years rest days to use too as my company needed us at work.
We are wondering how they are going to manage this time off for us as the only way we can see is to shut down for four weeks.
Got all of last years rest days to use too as my company needed us at work.
We are wondering how they are going to manage this time off for us as the only way we can see is to shut down for four weeks.
Not everyone messed about on furlough you know
I hope they have vaccine passports to keep people like you away from me
Ants are completely immune to COVID due to the fact that they have tiny little anty bodies.
Never ant-icipated such a f-ant-astic joke
So can you build up immunity to Covid19 by eating lots of anty bodies? I think maybe you can as I have not seen any reports of anteater deaths in the UK stats, not a single one!
That jke is Formicable
This is one of the most valuable and though provoking comments I have read on Hold Your Sausage for a long time.
Nice on chips though
And are you adamant that includes Adam Ant?
Yes...but this Ant-agonizes immune system!
I love that this is the highest rated comment. They may be hope after all!
Best comment ever.
Love it
And this whole pandemic started by somebody couldn’t resist eating an ant eater!
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Thank you, that has made my day!
Just as well.... their way of life means they really can't be socially dist-ant.
You shouldn't be so frivolous about this serious subject.
I'm really disgr-ant-led
I'm really disgr-ant-led
Largely the result of vaccination - a few more weeks & we will have herd immunity for the current variants..... but we are not there yet. Unfortunately the rest of Europe is months behind us
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
But dont forget that Covid is seasonal
Thankfully cases in the eu will soon start to rapidly decline (same as they did last year)
By the time autumn comes around again they will have more then caught up with vacinations and most of their population will be safe
Thankfully cases in the eu will soon start to rapidly decline (same as they did last year)
By the time autumn comes around again they will have more then caught up with vacinations and most of their population will be safe
Not on death rates though.
No not months check your facts. Had my jab today and very few people using vaccination centre. Why. Vaccine running short.
AZ are making "best efforts" to help europe, it is not Europe's fault that AZ's "best" isn't good enough
And the other half- if we work on the basis those with antibodies have had COVID, or are vulnerable and have had vaccines- have an immune system perfectly capable of handling a COVID infection with no real consequences. Pint anybody?
non-scientrific nonsense. If you have has Covid you have antibodies. As have all of us who have been vaccinated. The rest can pass it about and until ~80% have antibodies there is still the certaintly dropping all constraint will cause admissions to hospital to soar once more.....
That’s not true.
Panic PANIC. Chris Whitty will be excited he as minister of oppression can crush the public beneath Patel's jackboot
Minister of not giving a hoot about politics and just telling you how it is. There, fixed it for you.
And people will still demand lockdown to continue forever and that it is still not safe. Let’s get back on with life and start living again
Try asking the lockdown lover on here ICC256 if they want lockdown forever
Just look at posters on BBC HYS's.
Bob, you don't need to look too hard to find lockdown lovers on BBC HYS's.
I just wish they would shut mup, lock themselves away if that's what they want and the rest of us can start to look forward to resuming a worth-while life.
I just wish they would shut mup, lock themselves away if that's what they want and the rest of us can start to look forward to resuming a worth-while life.
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
Infections are low partially BECAUSE of the lockdown, since as the article points out only half the population have antibodies through previous exposure or vaccination. Without the on-going lockdown, we'd still be in the same mess as the USA and most of Europe.
Boris listened to you lot twice before, and we have 125,000 dead. You still don't understand how this thing works, do you?
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on"
So will this become an annual ritual?
KACHIIINNNG!
So will this become an annual ritual?
KACHIIINNNG!
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on" != "Covid antibodies disappear within a year"
Some people need a primer in logic
Some people need a primer in logic
There’s a big difference between retention of circulating antibodies and having life-long memory cells which can rapidly produce more antibodies upon infection.
So hopefully annual boosters won’t be necessary.
So hopefully annual boosters won’t be necessary.
At least it allowed us to close the borders so we didn't have people coming here from abroad spreading the virus. Oh wait, we didn't....
No, hospital admissions cannot soar now because 75% of the hospital admissions were in the vulnerable groups and they've all been offered a first dose which already reduces hospitalisations by 80% and over10% have had a second dose.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
its still not known if you can continue to spread it after vaccination...
No that's Ant and Dec.
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
Ants get such a bad press, give them a break ??
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.
The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing. Removed
The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing. Removed
It’s easy to donate vaccines when they’ve been imported from places like the eu.
I suppose you’d be in favour of Elitest Johnson sending millions of vaccines abroad if we had t vaccinated enough people ?
I suppose you’d be in favour of Elitest Johnson sending millions of vaccines abroad if we had t vaccinated enough people ?
Lol. I wonder what the next hot anti-EU topic will be. Probably back to fish.
Strange those EU leaders haven't been banned from social media for spreading anti-vax disinformation isn't it.
One rule for thee, one rule for me.
Dare say if Trump had made the same statements, the social media giants would have been all over it, with a baying mob of establishment woke worthies all stood with pitchforks in hand, egging them on.
One rule for thee, one rule for me.
Dare say if Trump had made the same statements, the social media giants would have been all over it, with a baying mob of establishment woke worthies all stood with pitchforks in hand, egging them on.
You mean the numpties who've donated 43 million vaccines which were produced within their area. Almost 12 million of those vaccines have been exported to their friends 'THATS US THE UK'. How many of the vaccines produced in the UK have been sent to other countries, ZERO!! The only reason the EU are 'Numpties' Is that they trusted that we would reciprocate their generosity!! They wont do it again!!
Funny isn't it, that when Switzerland, Norway and Iceland (all outside the EU) suspend AZ vaccination the Tory apologists quietly ignore the fact because that does not support their anti-EU message, and indeed it shows that the concern with the AZ vaccine safety is much wider than the EU...
nonsense, more people are dying from the untested gene therapy than directly from the "virus"
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As soon as Sanofi is up and running (if it EVER does!), THEN hear the bile from M. Macron!!!
The EU,s attempts to throw a spanner in our vaccine rollout was too little, too late. Now with the new Novavax vaccine being manufactured from start to finish in the U.K. , by GSK, and 60 mill doses already having been ordered, they would be better concentrating on trying to improve their own vaccine programme, rather than trying to sabotage ours.
Yet they still have lower death rates than us despite our fiddling the figures.
9 people have died from the AZ vaccine in Germany (for example). How are they being political, when they’re stepping back to reassess it? It seems like everyone wants to be cautious with Covid, but then throw caution out the window with the AZ vaccine.
The usual rubbish. Simple question How many vaccine doses exported to other countries. None. Stop going round in circles. Suppose you turned TV off when Panorama programme was aired last night to avoid watching something criticising the Govt.
So far they've tried turning it off and back on again
That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
Herd immunity it’s by 30m people catching it within 4 weeks really isn’t the same.
Natural herd immunity. Just ask Brazilians how they feel about that approach.
I see Vladimir P, aka Vlad the Invader, openly talks about Russia achieving herd immunity and no one either questions him or laughs.
Funny how different countries, different scientists and different journos make such a big difference to a population's view of a pandemic.
Tea, anyone?
Funny how different countries, different scientists and different journos make such a big difference to a population's view of a pandemic.
Tea, anyone?
It was taboo because it was highly risky without a vaccine programme. Quite apart from the deaths in the short term, we now all know that letting the virus rip can also lead to more dangerous new variants -- it isn't a simple short-cut to "take-it-on-the-chin" immunity.
That's not herd immunity.
30 million covid cases would probably result in about 500,000 deaths. So no it's not the same. Not nearly.
Herd immunity was a taboo subject as the chief advisor to the Prime Minister proposed it as "protect the economy and if old people die, so be it".
Never forget that.
Never forget that.
Totally different this time last year. If BoJo & Cummings had gone down that route then we would of had god knows how many more dead than the 126k we have now.
Herd immunity was a taboo subject at the start of the pandemic, when we had no vaccine and there never had been one, for the same reason that a Social Darwinist approach to healthcare tends to be a touchy subject in the NHS.
"Herd immunity" last March would have meant 10, 000's dead/ week, the NHS overwhelmed, and our society in massive trouble.
Controlled vaccination is very different.
But if it helps you to think "I told you so" without understanding any of the facts, then that's fine as educating your type is pointless as you know it all already.
Controlled vaccination is very different.
But if it helps you to think "I told you so" without understanding any of the facts, then that's fine as educating your type is pointless as you know it all already.
It was always the end game, but getting there via vaccinations will cost a hell of a lot less lives than letting it spread naturally!
Herd immunity wasn't a taboo subject, it was the rumoured government's approach to achieving herd immunity through natural infection that was the issue.
I don't know how people like you operate on a day to day basis
There is a difference between herd immunity achieved naturally and achieved through vaccination. The former would work eventually but would kill off tens or even hundreds of thousands more people. That is fine if you don't value life except your own.
Also notable that after 3 months of vaccination drive antibodies detected in just 55%.
I think single jabbed in UK (over 16s is 50%) so just shows how slow natural (ie no vaccination) herd immunity would have taken.
I think single jabbed in UK (over 16s is 50%) so just shows how slow natural (ie no vaccination) herd immunity would have taken.
I suspect some have missed the point of my original comment - I was highlighting the contrast of discussions of herd immunity this time last year versus recent progress towards it. Ultimately it is the end game, and the vaccines have accelerated efforts towards it, and all involved should be congratulated.
Chill ??
Chill ??
True herd immunity is achieved by culling and vaccination neither of which were options 12 months ago
That herd immunity falsehood by was what got the UK and US into such deep doo doo. Only vaccines result in herd immunity. It also resulted in the variant that is proudly named UK variant.
Programme.
No American English please, we're British.
No American English please, we're British.
"Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year"
Herd immunity itself has never been a taboo subject.
To be clear, herd immunity by just letting everyone catch it was - and still is - an appalling idea.
Once the disease spread enough to became irradicable, herd immunity by vaccination was always the solution.
Herd immunity itself has never been a taboo subject.
To be clear, herd immunity by just letting everyone catch it was - and still is - an appalling idea.
Once the disease spread enough to became irradicable, herd immunity by vaccination was always the solution.
Vice signaller.
Why is it you want young people to catch covid and potentially suffer long covid?
Us youngsters are paying taxes to keep the Ponzi scheme known as your pension going
Plus we’re paying off the Tory debt to do so.
Why is it you want young people to catch covid and potentially suffer long covid?
Us youngsters are paying taxes to keep the Ponzi scheme known as your pension going
Plus we’re paying off the Tory debt to do so.
Sheesh. We've been in and out of lockdowns for over 12 months now. You don't have the patience to wait another 1 or 2 to avoid cases spiralling like in France, Germany, Italy etc?
What so we can have scenes like this all over the country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.
Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.
Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.
Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.
Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.
Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
This is as of 14th March, so over 2 weeks ago and as it says in the article is compared to only 1/3 at the start of March, another 6 million people and almost 10% of the population have been vaccinated since then so it's likely we're past 60% by now. That won't give us total herd immunity but is enough to prevent exponential growth in infections, especially as the number will keep growing.
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BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
Next slide please....
So now we want comparisons...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833 look at the charts on this
Sorry can't do that, the BBC has been taken over by the Tory party, all it's senior positions now have Tory party appointees in place. It is now little more than a Tory party propaganda outlet and does not publish information that shows the Tory party to have made an absolute pigs ear of handling this crisis.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/excess-mortality-across-countries-in-2020/
is about the best I have found - does not suggest the UK is in any sense and exemplar but useful context in a world full of statistical confusion.
is about the best I have found - does not suggest the UK is in any sense and exemplar but useful context in a world full of statistical confusion.
For 1 it's not a competition and 2 you'd only question the validity of the graphs anyway.
Paraphrased as I can't think or read without the BBC showing me the facts BUT I'll criticise them when they do......
Spectator have a superb Covid Tracker site which is updated daily.
https://data.spectator.co.uk/city/vaccines
https://data.spectator.co.uk/city/vaccines
On death rates?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Unfortunately UK still has highest death rate in Europe :-(
Unfortunately UK still has highest death rate in Europe :-(
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
@Chris B what do you think wouldn't happen when lockdown is lifted in 4 weeks time that would happen if it was lifted tomorrow?
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
I looked closely at the pictures as Nottingham is my home town.....mainly young idiots causing trash everywhere and the me me ideology out in force! I despair and it's not even Easter yet...glad I moved away.
It's absolutely disgusting that the media is focussing on people going to a park. How many times do people have to be outside is much safer? This will not lead to a spike just like people going to beaches last year did not lead to any spike at all.
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Stop your moaning. Why can’t people start enjoying themselves. We can’t stay in constant fear of covid
They're young , almost certainly won't catch it and don't care what self righteous paranoids like you think. Good luck to them, no reason they should stay inside any longer just to please hysterical geriatrics who've all had the jab now.
We are a year into this pandemic and somehow some people still don't understand that the risk of coronavirus spreading outdoors in a park is negligible compared to a supermarket or workplace.
our bodies are full of virus, this over reaction only benefits big pharma, gives politicians a platform to sprout horns & spout nonsense; never had to deal with more stupid than bojo
Similar scenes to what we witnessed on Clapham Common recently. Different reason but still many not socially distanced and not mask wearing at both events.
Simple answer avoid Nottingham even when restrictions end. Revenue is what all towns and cities will be vying for.
How many times: THEY. ARE. OUT. SIDE. Transmission outdoors is *possible* but largely unheard-of. Over 97% of all transmission takes place indoors among large groups. And yet how many handwringing news stories are about people forced to go to the office or 'just popping over for a cup of tea'? Funny how moral panics always involve young people who tend to socialise outdoors rather than indoors.
Lets see how long it takes for new varients appear and prove the last 12 months has been a waste of time and money
There were no spikes last year after the beach fests or BLM protests, when the Covid Cultists were predicting them.
They’ll catch COVID & be absolutely fine. As is often the case.
I agree with you. But what about mass protests? That's a mass get together too, isn't it?
They just want to live their lives. What is your right to deny them that? I presume you've been vaccinated, wear a mask 24 hours a day. Shouldn't you be happy with yourself and mind your own business? You've been following the rules= you're not going to die!
Well most appeared to be students. They try to fight so 16 year old can vote but during covid I think we have all seen that anyone under 21 does not appear to have the intelligence to vote
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed
WRONG !
WRONG !
All the vulnerable groups vaccinated but still we get 330-350 hospitalisations per day, and that is with the measures in place.
Now imagine you took those measures away.
You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
Now imagine you took those measures away.
You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
HMG are releasing lockdown in stages - it would be truly stupid to allow another peak
That's still 30+million people who don't have antibodies. And as the virus is actively seeking to mutate so that it can find more hosts, perhaps Johnson has finally learnt a lesson that being cautious is better than having yet another lockdown later in the year.
The NHS needs to try and catch up with the backlog so they really don’t need another wave.
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
All the money spent on a briefing room and still nothing spent on the technology
"Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, either through infection or vaccination"
I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
Ah no, your not naturally immune, you're thinking of asymptomatic
I suspect someone is making stuff up....
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833 look at the charts on this
Most people don't holiday in Equatorial Guinea or Suriname, not to mention that most of our tourism also comes from Europe compared to South America and Africa, so I'd say focusing on Europe is entirely appropriate.
Probably because they are our closest neighbours and that we will want to travel to and from their counties as soon as possible. It's quite logical.
Because many of us would dearly love to have had a summer holiday in Europe this year and are looking on in horror at the utter mess they are making of things over there.
Because it 26 miles from us, not thousands FGS!
Because we expect the EU to keep up with UK and USA.
The others not so much.
The others not so much.
It's a deep unrequited love for certain people that voted negatively in a certain ref, gotta bring up the crush at every opportunity then be like "urghh nah uh don't even like them"
because they are our nearest neighbour?
You wait until June, biggest party ever. Best that you don't go out for a few months then. Yes its against the law at the moment, but will have little impact over all.
People (remoaners) have been questioning the fact that we have left the EU by a majority vote. And saying that we will be worse off without them. Brexiteers say the EU are shambolic and we can do better without them...
Because that’s where most people go on holiday. Makes sense.
if your neighbours house was on fire you be rightfully worried - a few streets away not so much.
Because it's comparing like with like.
Africa has far fewer cases as most people there die before they become old enough for Covid to be a threat.
Africa has far fewer cases as most people there die before they become old enough for Covid to be a threat.
Because they are only 22 miles away from us across the channel in France, and bang next to us in Eire...
And note Canada now paused astra zenica rollout. Don't see anti EU brigade criticising them
Because that is where the greatest risk for the UK lies. Look at the headline in the Mail today. "40 MPs demand all restrictions are lifted and foreign holidays allowed."
We may be ahead but the vaccine does not prevent transmission, it may reduce it. The last thing countries need is millions of British tourists adding to their infection rates.
We may be ahead but the vaccine does not prevent transmission, it may reduce it. The last thing countries need is millions of British tourists adding to their infection rates.
Because it's next door, and so a bigger source of infection.
We’re far more vulnerable to importing cases from Europe than we are from other continents. Our first wave was mostly imported from Italy, France and Spain
"Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?"
Are you familiar with the layout of the world?
Are you familiar with the layout of the world?
coz we it is on our doorstep and they are determined to wreck the UK's vaccine program - and that's but 2 of many reasons
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
@sticksinmud yes I do understand how it works. "Protect the NHS" was the mantra for lockdowns being introduced and there are 26 people in ICU in Scotland. We've vaccinated (at least one dose) almost everyone at risk.
Maybe it's you who doesn't quite understand?
Maybe it's you who doesn't quite understand?
I'm really looking forward to the UK getting a handle on this, then we can proceed with a public enquiry into the handling of covid - £bns or our money possibly given away in dodgy contracts, likely 100,000+ dead.
An impartial enquiry should be held - with the amount of damage that's been done we need to know if someone is accountable and act justly.
An impartial enquiry should be held - with the amount of damage that's been done we need to know if someone is accountable and act justly.
Country multi-billions in debt due to government covering peoples jobs and lively-hoods, mine not one of those lucky people unfortunately, for an act of nature that no one could foresee or have been prepared to deal with.. Yep, lets spend a bit more of my hard-earned tax contributions on a pointless blame-game exercise .. get real..
The people/country that are responsible are China for releasing this illness in the first place. As well as this it was the PM fault for not closing borders as soon as this illness was heard of. At least now we will hopefully close our borders when future new illnesses are spoken of from around the world.
Marvellous idea, let's spend billions on an enquiry that will have the same result as the Leveson one, i.e. nothing changes.
Its essential that we have a full, fair and independant enquiry into the Govts handling of the virus
Its estimated that Boris Johnsons dither in locking down the nation last March cost 20,000 british lives
Many more were lost because he failed to learn and tried his very best to "save Christmas"
And not to mention dodgy PPE contracts and 37 billion spent om track and trace
Its estimated that Boris Johnsons dither in locking down the nation last March cost 20,000 british lives
Many more were lost because he failed to learn and tried his very best to "save Christmas"
And not to mention dodgy PPE contracts and 37 billion spent om track and trace
ONS figures released now show 150,000 dead due to Covid. (including those who clung on to life in ICU beyond 28 days from 1st diagnosis before their bodies finally gave out as a result of the damage done by the virus)
In countries like Norway, Denmark, & Finland that handled the crisis effectively they managed to restrict the death rate to a fraction of what the UK has suffered.
In countries like Norway, Denmark, & Finland that handled the crisis effectively they managed to restrict the death rate to a fraction of what the UK has suffered.
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.
Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.
Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.
Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.
Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.
Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
This is as of 14th March, so over 2 weeks ago and as it says in the article is compared to only 1/3 at the start of March, another 6 million people and almost 10% of the population have been vaccinated since then so it's likely we're past 60% by now. That won't give us total herd immunity but is enough to prevent exponential growth in infections, especially as the number will keep growing.
Why was this such a bad pandemic?
Because it was (is) "The wrong sort of virus."
Next one please.
Because it was (is) "The wrong sort of virus."
Next one please.
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
Which was only ever a stick to loudly bash the drum with - in the minds of those with an agenda, detached from reality. Heard immunity was always going to be the way out of this, hooray it's now close! (60%+ I believe)
The activities in Nottingham today will be just 1 example used by the Government to justify another impending lockdown...
Well if monkeys listened to the government and didn't do stupid things we wouldn't have a lockdown
What really irked me was the amount of litter. What sort of people think that's OK? I would call them animals, but that would be rude to animals, who don't litter!
Stop your moaning we have to start living again. If your that worried stay at home
Can we make it just Nottingham then? - Maybe its biased reporting or police forces...but nearly all these illegal events (except protesting which seems to be a Bristol/London special!) are reporting by, Nottinghamshire / Derbyshire / West Midlands / Greater Manchester police forces?
I think more in terms of -->The upshot from those activities --some people are going to die; others seriously ill for a time; some with this 'long-covid'; others needing to quarantine everyone at home (absent from work, school); the unlucky spreading it everywhere they go ... I hope not to meet them.
Alarming to think that many people may break the Rules, they live in your own street and town.
Alarming to think that many people may break the Rules, they live in your own street and town.
So like bon jovi we are half way there. More people need to get vaccinated but with a slow and methodical approach that we are having to releasing lockdown we should be fine
Very apt , as the other half are “living on a prayer “ at the moment.
More than half way there because you don't need to reach 100% of people with antibodies to stop it spreading (and this was the number with antibodies over 2 weeks ago). We don't what the exact number we need is to make it impossible for R to go above 1 but it's likely to be in the region of 70%.
Problem is a significant proportion of our people are livin' on a prayer instead of getting vaccinated!
I told the vaccinator Lay your hands on me. She said I’ll be there for you, just keep the faith. I wanted to Runaway but she said We got it going on . Now We got it going on and I’m ready for Summertime
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
Well, apparently it's the fault of the government for not 'building trust' with some ethnic groups
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Appreciate and concur, and if you can get one of the dummies on this site to vaccinate you've scored a hit!
"The quicker the R number lowers"
The R number isn't going to lower which is why any real scientist you ask will tell you it's a terrible way to measure infections when statistically zero people are infected.
The R number isn't going to lower which is why any real scientist you ask will tell you it's a terrible way to measure infections when statistically zero people are infected.
Insulting people rarely work - don't join the diplomatic service just yet
Tell me what the long term effects of the vaccine are and I'll consider it.
You can get vaccinated if you want, mate, but there is no way on earth I am going to allow an experimental drug, whose long-term effects are unknown, to be put inside my body. I'd rather take my chances with Covid, for which the survival rate is 99%-plus.
It does not protect you from illness it just reduces the chance of serious illness.
Those individuals who would most likely suffer serious illness have all been vaccinated, assuming they wanted the jab.
I am unlikely to develop serious illness and I do not trust the scientific claims of pharmaceutical companies who place profits above all else, including saving lives.
Keep your vaccine..
Those individuals who would most likely suffer serious illness have all been vaccinated, assuming they wanted the jab.
I am unlikely to develop serious illness and I do not trust the scientific claims of pharmaceutical companies who place profits above all else, including saving lives.
Keep your vaccine..
R number is really imaginary number. We can only know R number by testing 100% of people with 100% percent accurate test.
What a fool. You actually think you’re going to be free in the future.
More virtue signalling:
" So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good."
Well if they had enough supply, they'd be on the other groups by now.
"So as soon as you can" for the rest of us, is May... but well done on your virtual points..I'd happily have it now otherwise.
" So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good."
Well if they had enough supply, they'd be on the other groups by now.
"So as soon as you can" for the rest of us, is May... but well done on your virtual points..I'd happily have it now otherwise.
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
Pray do tell.
It isn't wrong. There is zero chance of the NHS being overwhelmed in the next few months. Winter's always the busiest time and total admissions with covid are now just over 4,000 when it was almost 40,000 at the peak and that number has more than halved since schools went back.
We've vaccinated enough people it's just not possible for hospitalisations to soar enough to overwhelm the NHS from covid
We've vaccinated enough people it's just not possible for hospitalisations to soar enough to overwhelm the NHS from covid
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
We estimate that maybe, probably that there could be approximately a significant number of guesses made in the compilation of the numbers used throughout this fiasco.
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.
The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
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The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
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The AZ vaccine is being made in many countries now so there is no reliance on the EU, just the EU that is sooooooo slow with the EMA holding up production in the Netherlands.
Vaccines are owned by the companies that produce them initially and then the customers that they are sold to. They not automatically owned by the government of the country that they are produced in. That's communism or just plain theft.
UK is one of the worst affected countries on the planet. If it was any other country with any other problem, resources would be rightfully prioritised to help them. We shouldn't feel guilty about having the foresight to order sufficient vaccines and treat our own first. Remember, in the event of a loss of cabin pressure, make sure you secure your own oxygen mask before helping others...
Funny how you ignore the origin of the AZ vaccine & all the precursor components the UK is producing for use in EU based production facilities.
Oh & the EU hasn't made one single dose of vaccine. In fact they've DELAYED both production & distribution through their bungling.
Oh & the EU hasn't made one single dose of vaccine. In fact they've DELAYED both production & distribution through their bungling.
They’ve been imported from private companies, not a government or power bloc. Wakey wakey..... ??
You've been mentally mugged by cynical EU messages trying to hide their own failures. The EU don't make vaccines nor do the UK. Vaccines are supplied by companies who make them to those that purchase them, hense the EU is exporting vaccines becuase it screwed up not becuase its generous.
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
All the vulnerable groups vaccinated but still we get 330-350 hospitalisations per day, and that is with the measures in place.
Now imagine you took those measures away.
You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
Now imagine you took those measures away.
You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
Actually it's lower than that now, the whole UK is under 300 hospital admissions a day and England is under 220. The dashboard is always a bit out of date as the figures are updated by the NHS after 4PM.
There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed
WRONG !
WRONG !
Be careful what you wish for
Or you could just stay indoors.
I hope there are no vaccine passports to keep people like you away from me.
@badger Strange comment - it was the government that decided to do essentially nothing throughout Feb and early March 2020 - if they had listened to the warnings then (or used the slightest bit of common sense), the disease need never have become out of control. That is how we would have avoided the lockdown (or certainly, such a long series of lockdowns).
Alternatively if the monkey running the government listened to the experts and didn't do stupid things then:
1. he wouldn't have got Covid himself
2. we would have locked down in early March 2020 instead of waiting for Carrie to have her baby shower and saved 30,000 lives.
3. we would have locked down again in September and saved another 80,000 lives
etc...
1. he wouldn't have got Covid himself
2. we would have locked down in early March 2020 instead of waiting for Carrie to have her baby shower and saved 30,000 lives.
3. we would have locked down again in September and saved another 80,000 lives
etc...
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..
If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
Less admin, just easier to vaccinate everybody. And how do you prove someone really had it? Having the vaccine isn't much different from being re-infected in real life, so there's no health risk.
You're in the wrong place for sensible replies. Vaccine is not the same as body's reaction to the virus itself.. but go and look it up if you do actually want to know. A simple question to Google will find the answers if you're careful who is publishing it. Don't ask Facebook / Twittergram
Because the NHS doesn't know who has had it so we have to jab them all just to be sure.
Antibodies are the result of recent infection and don't indicate if there is long term immunity. They're the bullets still flying around from the fighting. Better safe than sorry.
Jabs gives greater protection because the body makes more antibodies of the correct type than it does when facing the real virus.
There are somethings we know and somethings we don`t know, then there are things we know that we don`t know, and just maybe there are some things that we know we don`t know and would rather like to not know. I think?
Their immunity is more likely to be short lived and the vaccine enhances it.
Because otherwise Bill Gates wouldn't be able to get his nanobots into everybody.
Because it effectively multiplies the level of immunity
Because 2 doses of the vaccine gives antibodies with greater longevity than antibodies generated from past infection, also some people don’t generate an antibody response to the virus, they use T cells and other immune response mechanisms to fight off the virus ( long covid).
Belt and braces.
Realistically, I suspect that you're better off having caught it. If any "passport" was to be introduced, then it should be based on having antibodies. I don't think it'll be necessary as most of the population will have had the vaccine in a few months.
If you get the vaccine, you'll most likely boost your antibodies further and kill it much quicker than those who have not caught it.
If you get the vaccine, you'll most likely boost your antibodies further and kill it much quicker than those who have not caught it.
Because Covid induced antibodies don't appear to last very long compared to those from the vaccine.
Because the jab provides a better level of cover and makes it far easier to establish an absolute baseline.
Hey! You can get this answer from TWIV, a podcast about virology that does a weekly Covid clinical update. It's a bit technical but detailed, mature and non-hysterical, unlike news sources. In short: you should still get the vaccine because the "antibody training" that the vaccine gives to your body is stronger and longer-lasting than your body's memory in response to natural infection.
I thought the vaccine antibodies were generally more and lasted longer, but also admin is easier.
Because in time the antibodies wear off, that’s why we will probably have to have a top up jab every 12 months as we do with the flu vaccine
You really haven't been following have you! Just go and get your jab like a big boy.
So basically the answer is because we still don't know exactly how the immunity will work from catching and recovering from Covid 19. It is likely that in most cases you will have a period of immunity we just don't know how long for.
The vaccine would act as a sort of booster shot to your own immunity and may provide additional benefits on top.
I'm a Paramedic Practitioner and trained vaccinator
The vaccine would act as a sort of booster shot to your own immunity and may provide additional benefits on top.
I'm a Paramedic Practitioner and trained vaccinator
Panic PANIC. Chris Whitty will be excited he as minister of oppression can crush the public beneath Patel's jackboot
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
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I blame the media (particularly The Guardian, Independent, Sky News and BBC) who constantly spin a narrative without conclusive evidence about 'systemic racism' that builds distrust. This distrust doubtlessly has resulted in lower vaccine uptake and lives lost in minority communities.
You'll find it is always 'someone elses fault'...
I think people would blame the government if their loo collapsed under them. The people to blame here are those that peddle lies and those stupid enough to believe them. I wonder if an injection is on the horizon for common sense? as it seems people have lost this over the last few years.
Er, if you write that as the Government doing very little on systemic racism and actively encouraging income , educational and opportunity inequality, then yes (much of the impact on ethnic communities is because of the impacts around those last ones)
Well, apparently its the fault of EVERY government
And if I were to refuse to have dealings with folk from certain ethnic groups on the grounds that they were less likely to have been vaccinated and therefore more likely to infect me, that - presumably - would be construed as racist.
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are these the same ethnic groups that avoid the census poll and keep below the radar?
Well the now 150,000 deaths are UK govs fault.
Taiwan, singapore, Japan, S Korea, ozz, New Zealand haven't had that level of deaths, covid+ or economic damage.
The vaccines.. Weren't ukgovs idea or invention.
Taiwan, singapore, Japan, S Korea, ozz, New Zealand haven't had that level of deaths, covid+ or economic damage.
The vaccines.. Weren't ukgovs idea or invention.
If Black Lives Matter, why not get vaccinated? Confused.com.
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.
The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing. Removed
The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.
Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing. Removed
T-cell immunity seems to be more important in providing younger people with their greater natural resistance to the virus. The antibodies appear to be more relevant for the older, higher-risk population, so it is great that the vaccines provide this.
T cells help stimulate the production of antibodies on a supply and demand basis although this ability reduces with age hence the need for older people to be vaccinated for flu and other respiratory ailments.
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
Before there are comments, I moved to a village in Leicestershire, nowhere near Leicester either!
they are trying to live normally, we are not a police state yet
I saw that too. And there I was thinking that poll after poll keep telling us how important the young think the environment is. Yeh, looking at the mess afterwards it really seems like it!
Surely Auntie Bodies is a term used to describe people who work for the BBC.
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.
Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.
That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.
That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
non-scientrific nonsense. If you have has Covid you have antibodies. As have all of us who have been vaccinated. The rest can pass it about and until ~80% have antibodies there is still the certaintly dropping all constraint will cause admissions to hospital to soar once more.....
No, hospital admissions cannot soar now because 75% of the hospital admissions were in the vulnerable groups and they've all been offered a first dose which already reduces hospitalisations by 80% and over10% have had a second dose.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
BBC's very own undercover investigator shows that 'tests' on Covid are being compromised through a mix of incompetence and couldn't carelessness!
When people here and there and everywhere questioned the reliability of Covid testing they were labelled as 'conspiracy nuts'!
When people here and there and everywhere questioned the reliability of Covid testing they were labelled as 'conspiracy nuts'!
Fair point
Absolutely. The testing at Milton Keynes should be suspended pending an investigation. Inadequate recruitment & selection, induction and training. Absence of management and leadership. Boris & Co are only concerned with bigging up the numbers. No concern for the integrity of the testing. Scandalous@
That's not really true. People who said we shouldn't test, or contended that numbers were fake, grossly overstated etc. were called conspiracy nuts.
The undercover reporting merely shows that they will be less accurate, not defunct.
The undercover reporting merely shows that they will be less accurate, not defunct.
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
I'd be interested to know the % in young adults and children. When Schools and Unis went back last September, infection rates rocketed. A friend told me his daughter got it in her accommodation at Leeds Medical school (she was fine) and it seemed like it just fired trough the everyone living there. Newcastle and Northumbria Unis reported 1000 cases in one week.
So Berlin is now pausing the Oxford astra zeneca vaccine for the under 60s... Good that's more for the sensible brits who are looking forward to a lovely summer of freedom.. Good old Germans always thinking they know best.
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They're on the beach proving it right now!
True, but the Germans already have their freedom, and are flooding Majorca as we speak.
Or maybe they like Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and a number of other developed countries have serious concerns over the safety of the AZ vaccine.
Personnally I'd argue it is still safer than getting Covid, but then as most of Europe has been much better at suppressing the virus they perhaps have less of a critical need to vaccinate their populations.
Personnally I'd argue it is still safer than getting Covid, but then as most of Europe has been much better at suppressing the virus they perhaps have less of a critical need to vaccinate their populations.
Vaccine roll out is generally only paused for medical reasons, i.e when a person who's given the vaccine subsequently develops a life threatening medical condition, but to prevent further potential occurrences the vaccine has to be ruled out as the cause.
In the UK people die all the time, some of which will have been vaccinated, probably the 2 are not related so not reported but how do you know?
In the UK people die all the time, some of which will have been vaccinated, probably the 2 are not related so not reported but how do you know?
Gives the EU Leadership more ammunition to fire at UK.
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
I think that the presence of antibodies is all thats required.. and you can test for that.
I think that the presence of antibodies is all thats required.. and you can test for that. My issue is that the vacinne has been rushed through and there isnt enough long term data yet
Yes . v sensible answer.
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with meeting friends and family in this lovely sunshine, having picnics, strolling etc but brawling drunkenly in large crowds and leaving trash for others to pick up is both unsavoury and unsafe. What is it about sunshine that tends to attract selfish little oiks?
Baseless nonsense.
The timing of rises in Covid cases in late summer correlated with the increase in stupid, selfish behaviour by people.
The timing of rises in Covid cases in late summer correlated with the increase in stupid, selfish behaviour by people.
Well if monkeys listened to the government and didn't do stupid things we wouldn't have a lockdown
@badger Strange comment - it was the government that decided to do essentially nothing throughout Feb and early March 2020 - if they had listened to the warnings then (or used the slightest bit of common sense), the disease need never have become out of control. That is how we would have avoided the lockdown (or certainly, such a long series of lockdowns).
I'd be interested to know the % in young adults and children. When Schools and Unis went back last September, infection rates rocketed. A friend told me his daughter got it in her accommodation at Leeds Medical school (she was fine) and it seemed like it just fired trough the everyone living there. Newcastle and Northumbria Unis reported 1000 cases in one week.
What amazing reporting, surely if 50% of the population have been vaccinated then it stands to reason that 50% are likely to antibodies.
Its BS reporting
The ONS Study knows how old people are.
They could easily report the percentage in the over 50s group (which should be 80% plus due to vaccination) and the percentage under 50 (mostly unvaccinated so naturally acquired).
I suspect Covid has been doing most of the under 50s and the Vax has been doing most of the over 50s.
The ONS Study knows how old people are.
They could easily report the percentage in the over 50s group (which should be 80% plus due to vaccination) and the percentage under 50 (mostly unvaccinated so naturally acquired).
I suspect Covid has been doing most of the under 50s and the Vax has been doing most of the over 50s.
Except that’s not what’s been found, half are vaccinated, there’s no way of knowing how many have had antibodies form naturally, and yet only half have antibodies
It should surely be, half and the additional numbers of natural immunity?
It should surely be, half and the additional numbers of natural immunity?
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
Surely Auntie Bodies is a term used to describe people who work for the BBC.
BBC is the only site I use. Dont read papers at all as I find them a waste of time.
I agree with you. I like the content the BBC provides. This was merely a joke and was meant to be taken as such.
?????? Half of UK citizens have the antibodies already! ??????
This proves what an amazing country we are and what amazing citizens we have?
Clearly, we're the best at growing antibodies.
This proves what an amazing country we are and what amazing citizens we have?
Clearly, we're the best at growing antibodies.
We're going to need those antibodies and jabs if we've got idiots like these in our towns and cities.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
Some amazing citizens maybe but there are still plenty of idiots around like in Nottingham the few spoiling it for the majority again. They should close the park and anyone arrested should be made to clear all the litter up in the park and then open up again
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.
Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.
That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.
That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
Never get complacent.
Don't forget the role of memory B-cells. The transient supply of antibodies in the blood is a very handy marker of gained immunity but they do naturally decline with time as the provision of these antibodies in the longer term is based on your B-cells remembering the recipe so they can quickly make more of them as/when needed.
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ? Removed
Hopefully all our poor multi millionaire celebrity victims have had the jab so they can go off to Dubai to recover