Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection
30/03/2021 | news | health | 1,891
In the oldest people, roughly 90% had signs of protection against the virus in their blood.
Has the BBC sorted out the HYS issues yet? Removed
5
30/03/2021 13:33:44 6 1
bbc
So far they've tried turning it off and back on again

That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
38
30/03/2021 13:45:02 0 0
bbc
This is an issue of the AI trying to getting to grips with the IQ of HYSers.
Is this reality real?
2
Ian
30/03/2021 13:32:00 49 37
bbc
That's that sorted then. Let's get back to work.
10
30/03/2021 13:37:32 128 7
bbc
Many of us never stopped working!
12
30/03/2021 13:37:57 15 0
bbc
Never been away from it mate.
Got all of last years rest days to use too as my company needed us at work.
We are wondering how they are going to manage this time off for us as the only way we can see is to shut down for four weeks.
63
30/03/2021 13:49:30 23 2
bbc
Not everyone messed about on furlough you know
3
30/03/2021 13:32:37 27 24
bbc
Open the public houses.
60
30/03/2021 13:49:03 8 17
bbc
I hope they have vaccine passports to keep people like you away from me
4
30/03/2021 13:33:44 732 37
bbc
Ants are completely immune to COVID due to the fact that they have tiny little anty bodies.
18
DJP
30/03/2021 13:38:42 183 18
bbc
But they still bug everybody.
19
30/03/2021 13:38:55 17 1
bbc
Ha, that's great!
166
30/03/2021 14:05:59 31 3
bbc
Never ant-icipated such a f-ant-astic joke
182
30/03/2021 14:08:23 48 1
bbc
They got them at NHS Stoke Mandible
225
30/03/2021 14:12:49 27 1
bbc
So can you build up immunity to Covid19 by eating lots of anty bodies? I think maybe you can as I have not seen any reports of anteater deaths in the UK stats, not a single one!
That jke is Formicable
296
DJP
30/03/2021 14:23:37 19 1
bbc
Half Termite cause a few problems for the anty bodies
308
30/03/2021 14:24:49 37 1
bbc
This is one of the most valuable and though provoking comments I have read on Hold Your Sausage for a long time.
464
30/03/2021 14:56:10 4 1
bbc
Nice on chips though
574
30/03/2021 15:12:58 12 3
bbc
Can’t believe this has 8 down votes ??
629
30/03/2021 15:31:44 14 2
bbc
And are you adamant that includes Adam Ant?
652
30/03/2021 15:35:34 3 0
bbc
Nice
738
30/03/2021 15:45:55 5 1
bbc
Yes...but this Ant-agonizes immune system!
849
30/03/2021 16:11:15 10 0
bbc
I love that this is the highest rated comment. They may be hope after all!
900
30/03/2021 16:18:44 6 0
bbc
Best comment ever.
30/03/2021 16:38:48 5 0
bbc
Love it
30/03/2021 16:44:54 3 0
bbc
And this whole pandemic started by somebody couldn’t resist eating an ant eater!

__________________
30/03/2021 17:11:20 3 0
bbc
Thank you, that has made my day!
30/03/2021 17:25:57 3 0
bbc
Good one.
30/03/2021 17:42:26 2 0
bbc
Just as well.... their way of life means they really can't be socially dist-ant.
30/03/2021 17:46:19 2 0
bbc
You shouldn't be so frivolous about this serious subject.
I'm really disgr-ant-led
30/03/2021 21:32:27 0 0
bbc
I cannot believe I've read a comment on the BBC website that I both agree with and find entertaining
Has the BBC sorted out the HYS issues yet? Removed
5
30/03/2021 13:33:44 6 1
bbc
So far they've tried turning it off and back on again

That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
21
30/03/2021 13:39:11 1 1
bbc
If only they had left the old HYS format alone, that worked just fine.
6
30/03/2021 13:34:29 175 50
bbc
Largely the result of vaccination - a few more weeks & we will have herd immunity for the current variants..... but we are not there yet. Unfortunately the rest of Europe is months behind us
40
30/03/2021 13:45:05 152 141
bbc
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
78
30/03/2021 13:52:26 32 50
bbc
Who cares about Europe? They certainly don't care about us.
But dont forget that Covid is seasonal

Thankfully cases in the eu will soon start to rapidly decline (same as they did last year)

By the time autumn comes around again they will have more then caught up with vacinations and most of their population will be safe
666
30/03/2021 15:37:30 2 0
bbc
Not on death rates though.
744
30/03/2021 15:50:33 1 1
bbc
No not months check your facts. Had my jab today and very few people using vaccination centre. Why. Vaccine running short.
868
30/03/2021 16:14:42 3 0
bbc
AZ are making "best efforts" to help europe, it is not Europe's fault that AZ's "best" isn't good enough
7
pTc
30/03/2021 13:34:55 18 18
bbc
And the other half- if we work on the basis those with antibodies have had COVID, or are vulnerable and have had vaccines- have an immune system perfectly capable of handling a COVID infection with no real consequences. Pint anybody?
17
30/03/2021 13:38:39 21 8
bbc
non-scientrific nonsense. If you have has Covid you have antibodies. As have all of us who have been vaccinated. The rest can pass it about and until ~80% have antibodies there is still the certaintly dropping all constraint will cause admissions to hospital to soar once more.....
57
30/03/2021 13:48:35 0 2
bbc
That’s not true.
8
30/03/2021 13:35:21 8 30
bbc
Panic PANIC. Chris Whitty will be excited he as minister of oppression can crush the public beneath Patel's jackboot
66
30/03/2021 13:50:12 6 0
bbc
Minister of not giving a hoot about politics and just telling you how it is. There, fixed it for you.
9
30/03/2021 13:35:38 28 30
bbc
And people will still demand lockdown to continue forever and that it is still not safe. Let’s get back on with life and start living again
13
Bob
30/03/2021 13:38:05 16 11
bbc
Please quote someone asking for that.
23
30/03/2021 13:40:21 7 3
bbc
I don't know what you are doing but last I checked I was alive....all of life works within constraints, this is just a temporary set for a specific purpose - too much melodrama on HYS
2
Ian
30/03/2021 13:32:00 49 37
bbc
That's that sorted then. Let's get back to work.
10
30/03/2021 13:37:32 128 7
bbc
Many of us never stopped working!
241
Ian
30/03/2021 14:14:18 7 0
bbc
Me neither, I meant the country as a whole.
681
30/03/2021 15:40:15 2 1
bbc
Many of us would have liked that choice and would still like the option.
30/03/2021 19:01:26 1 0
bbc
Yep, not had a day off in a year now!
11
30/03/2021 13:35:00 2 3
bbc
HALF FULL or HALF NOT SO FOOL?
2
Ian
30/03/2021 13:32:00 49 37
bbc
That's that sorted then. Let's get back to work.
12
30/03/2021 13:37:57 15 0
bbc
Never been away from it mate.
Got all of last years rest days to use too as my company needed us at work.
We are wondering how they are going to manage this time off for us as the only way we can see is to shut down for four weeks.
31/03/2021 12:41:38 0 0
bbc
Surely you mean lockdown!!
9
30/03/2021 13:35:38 28 30
bbc
And people will still demand lockdown to continue forever and that it is still not safe. Let’s get back on with life and start living again
13
Bob
30/03/2021 13:38:05 16 11
bbc
Please quote someone asking for that.
107
30/03/2021 13:56:28 2 3
bbc
Try asking the lockdown lover on here ICC256 if they want lockdown forever
641
30/03/2021 15:33:43 0 1
bbc
Just look at posters on BBC HYS's.
30/03/2021 17:15:53 2 0
bbc
Bob, you don't need to look too hard to find lockdown lovers on BBC HYS's.

I just wish they would shut mup, lock themselves away if that's what they want and the rest of us can start to look forward to resuming a worth-while life.
14
30/03/2021 13:38:28 13 19
bbc
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
30
30/03/2021 13:43:26 13 9
bbc
Infections are low partially BECAUSE of the lockdown, since as the article points out only half the population have antibodies through previous exposure or vaccination. Without the on-going lockdown, we'd still be in the same mess as the USA and most of Europe.
41
30/03/2021 13:45:14 6 3
bbc
Boris listened to you lot twice before, and we have 125,000 dead. You still don't understand how this thing works, do you?
46
gc
30/03/2021 13:46:15 0 1
bbc
YEH ...LIKE cr az y
15
30/03/2021 13:37:24 7 13
bbc
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on"

So will this become an annual ritual?

KACHIIINNNG!
27
30/03/2021 13:42:19 9 4
bbc
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on" != "Covid antibodies disappear within a year"

Some people need a primer in logic
68
30/03/2021 13:50:53 1 1
bbc
There’s a big difference between retention of circulating antibodies and having life-long memory cells which can rapidly produce more antibodies upon infection.

So hopefully annual boosters won’t be necessary.
30/03/2021 17:13:33 0 0
bbc
Nobody had been vaccinated a year ago to find out if they last years.
16
30/03/2021 13:38:11 7 15
bbc
I blame Brexit.
74
30/03/2021 13:52:00 5 1
bbc
At least it allowed us to close the borders so we didn't have people coming here from abroad spreading the virus. Oh wait, we didn't....
7
pTc
30/03/2021 13:34:55 18 18
bbc
And the other half- if we work on the basis those with antibodies have had COVID, or are vulnerable and have had vaccines- have an immune system perfectly capable of handling a COVID infection with no real consequences. Pint anybody?
17
30/03/2021 13:38:39 21 8
bbc
non-scientrific nonsense. If you have has Covid you have antibodies. As have all of us who have been vaccinated. The rest can pass it about and until ~80% have antibodies there is still the certaintly dropping all constraint will cause admissions to hospital to soar once more.....
77
30/03/2021 13:52:15 5 1
bbc
No, hospital admissions cannot soar now because 75% of the hospital admissions were in the vulnerable groups and they've all been offered a first dose which already reduces hospitalisations by 80% and over10% have had a second dose.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
207
Bob
30/03/2021 14:10:11 0 3
bbc
its still not known if you can continue to spread it after vaccination...
213
pTc
30/03/2021 14:11:09 3 2
bbc
You're right. Lets just stayed locked up forever. Pointless getting the vaccine then, as a prisoner of HMP England, never going out again.
4
30/03/2021 13:33:44 732 37
bbc
Ants are completely immune to COVID due to the fact that they have tiny little anty bodies.
18
DJP
30/03/2021 13:38:42 183 18
bbc
But they still bug everybody.
44
30/03/2021 13:45:57 23 1
bbc
No that's Ant and Dec.
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050

Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
Removed
251
30/03/2021 14:16:20 10 1
bbc
Ants get such a bad press, give them a break ??
4
30/03/2021 13:33:44 732 37
bbc
Ants are completely immune to COVID due to the fact that they have tiny little anty bodies.
19
30/03/2021 13:38:55 17 1
bbc
Ha, that's great!
20
bbc
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.

The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.

Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing.
Removed
55
30/03/2021 13:47:39 20 144
bbc
It’s easy to donate vaccines when they’ve been imported from places like the eu.

I suppose you’d be in favour of Elitest Johnson sending millions of vaccines abroad if we had t vaccinated enough people ?
70
30/03/2021 13:51:08 11 20
bbc
Lol. I wonder what the next hot anti-EU topic will be. Probably back to fish.
123
30/03/2021 13:58:42 36 7
bbc
Strange those EU leaders haven't been banned from social media for spreading anti-vax disinformation isn't it.

One rule for thee, one rule for me.

Dare say if Trump had made the same statements, the social media giants would have been all over it, with a baying mob of establishment woke worthies all stood with pitchforks in hand, egging them on.
175
30/03/2021 14:07:42 5 48
bbc
You mean the numpties who've donated 43 million vaccines which were produced within their area. Almost 12 million of those vaccines have been exported to their friends 'THATS US THE UK'. How many of the vaccines produced in the UK have been sent to other countries, ZERO!! The only reason the EU are 'Numpties' Is that they trusted that we would reciprocate their generosity!! They wont do it again!!
258
30/03/2021 14:17:50 2 18
bbc
Funny isn't it, that when Switzerland, Norway and Iceland (all outside the EU) suspend AZ vaccination the Tory apologists quietly ignore the fact because that does not support their anti-EU message, and indeed it shows that the concern with the AZ vaccine safety is much wider than the EU...
nonsense, more people are dying from the untested gene therapy than directly from the "virus" Removed
542
LH
30/03/2021 15:16:07 1 0
bbc
As soon as Sanofi is up and running (if it EVER does!), THEN hear the bile from M. Macron!!!
548
DMT
30/03/2021 15:17:09 3 0
bbc
The EU,s attempts to throw a spanner in our vaccine rollout was too little, too late. Now with the new Novavax vaccine being manufactured from start to finish in the U.K. , by GSK, and 60 mill doses already having been ordered, they would be better concentrating on trying to improve their own vaccine programme, rather than trying to sabotage ours.
662
30/03/2021 15:36:45 0 0
bbc
Yet they still have lower death rates than us despite our fiddling the figures.
708
30/03/2021 15:43:59 1 0
bbc
9 people have died from the AZ vaccine in Germany (for example). How are they being political, when they’re stepping back to reassess it? It seems like everyone wants to be cautious with Covid, but then throw caution out the window with the AZ vaccine.
732
30/03/2021 15:48:57 0 0
bbc
The usual rubbish. Simple question How many vaccine doses exported to other countries. None. Stop going round in circles. Suppose you turned TV off when Panorama programme was aired last night to avoid watching something criticising the Govt.
751
30/03/2021 15:51:57 0 0
bbc
Just spiteful pro-government political posturing
5
30/03/2021 13:33:44 6 1
bbc
So far they've tried turning it off and back on again

That didn't work so they're completely flummoxed
21
30/03/2021 13:39:11 1 1
bbc
If only they had left the old HYS format alone, that worked just fine.
22
30/03/2021 13:40:11 300 51
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
47
30/03/2021 13:46:29 89 109
bbc
Herd immunity it’s by 30m people catching it within 4 weeks really isn’t the same.
53
30/03/2021 13:47:31 43 16
bbc
Natural herd immunity. Just ask Brazilians how they feel about that approach.
94
30/03/2021 13:54:28 18 8
bbc
I see Vladimir P, aka Vlad the Invader, openly talks about Russia achieving herd immunity and no one either questions him or laughs.

Funny how different countries, different scientists and different journos make such a big difference to a population's view of a pandemic.

Tea, anyone?
120
30/03/2021 13:57:59 29 14
bbc
It was taboo because it was highly risky without a vaccine programme. Quite apart from the deaths in the short term, we now all know that letting the virus rip can also lead to more dangerous new variants -- it isn't a simple short-cut to "take-it-on-the-chin" immunity.
133
30/03/2021 13:59:55 9 16
bbc
That's not herd immunity.
137
30/03/2021 14:00:09 23 21
bbc
30 million covid cases would probably result in about 500,000 deaths. So no it's not the same. Not nearly.
214
30/03/2021 14:11:20 14 14
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject as the chief advisor to the Prime Minister proposed it as "protect the economy and if old people die, so be it".

Never forget that.
264
Trs
30/03/2021 14:18:59 17 16
bbc
Totally different this time last year. If BoJo & Cummings had gone down that route then we would of had god knows how many more dead than the 126k we have now.
299
xlr
30/03/2021 14:23:56 13 6
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject at the start of the pandemic, when we had no vaccine and there never had been one, for the same reason that a Social Darwinist approach to healthcare tends to be a touchy subject in the NHS.
362
30/03/2021 14:37:03 6 9
bbc
"Herd immunity" last March would have meant 10, 000's dead/ week, the NHS overwhelmed, and our society in massive trouble.
Controlled vaccination is very different.
But if it helps you to think "I told you so" without understanding any of the facts, then that's fine as educating your type is pointless as you know it all already.
411
30/03/2021 14:47:13 7 2
bbc
It was always the end game, but getting there via vaccinations will cost a hell of a lot less lives than letting it spread naturally!
441
30/03/2021 14:51:04 4 1
bbc
Herd immunity wasn't a taboo subject, it was the rumoured government's approach to achieving herd immunity through natural infection that was the issue.
476
30/03/2021 14:59:06 0 2
bbc
I don't know how people like you operate on a day to day basis
511
30/03/2021 15:08:02 1 3
bbc
There is a difference between herd immunity achieved naturally and achieved through vaccination. The former would work eventually but would kill off tens or even hundreds of thousands more people. That is fine if you don't value life except your own.
544
30/03/2021 15:16:32 1 0
bbc
Also notable that after 3 months of vaccination drive antibodies detected in just 55%.
I think single jabbed in UK (over 16s is 50%) so just shows how slow natural (ie no vaccination) herd immunity would have taken.
551
30/03/2021 15:18:24 4 0
bbc
I suspect some have missed the point of my original comment - I was highlighting the contrast of discussions of herd immunity this time last year versus recent progress towards it. Ultimately it is the end game, and the vaccines have accelerated efforts towards it, and all involved should be congratulated.

Chill ??
637
30/03/2021 15:27:20 0 0
bbc
True herd immunity is achieved by culling and vaccination neither of which were options 12 months ago
894
30/03/2021 16:17:34 0 3
bbc
That herd immunity falsehood by was what got the UK and US into such deep doo doo. Only vaccines result in herd immunity. It also resulted in the variant that is proudly named UK variant.
965
30/03/2021 16:26:56 1 0
bbc
Programme.
No American English please, we're British.
bob
30/03/2021 16:43:45 0 0
bbc
me
30/03/2021 16:47:00 1 1
bbc
"Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year"

Herd immunity itself has never been a taboo subject.

To be clear, herd immunity by just letting everyone catch it was - and still is - an appalling idea.

Once the disease spread enough to became irradicable, herd immunity by vaccination was always the solution.
9
30/03/2021 13:35:38 28 30
bbc
And people will still demand lockdown to continue forever and that it is still not safe. Let’s get back on with life and start living again
23
30/03/2021 13:40:21 7 3
bbc
I don't know what you are doing but last I checked I was alive....all of life works within constraints, this is just a temporary set for a specific purpose - too much melodrama on HYS
24
30/03/2021 13:40:29 19 31
bbc
Open now and stop this nonsense, NOW,
Mor. On Removed
45
30/03/2021 13:46:03 3 8
bbc
Vice signaller.

Why is it you want young people to catch covid and potentially suffer long covid?

Us youngsters are paying taxes to keep the Ponzi scheme known as your pension going

Plus we’re paying off the Tory debt to do so.
98
30/03/2021 13:54:53 4 1
bbc
Sheesh. We've been in and out of lockdowns for over 12 months now. You don't have the patience to wait another 1 or 2 to avoid cases spiralling like in France, Germany, Italy etc?
217
30/03/2021 14:11:51 2 0
bbc
What so we can have scenes like this all over the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
25
30/03/2021 13:40:54 7 14
bbc
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.

Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.

Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.

Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
43
30/03/2021 13:45:55 3 0
bbc
This is as of 14th March, so over 2 weeks ago and as it says in the article is compared to only 1/3 at the start of March, another 6 million people and almost 10% of the population have been vaccinated since then so it's likely we're past 60% by now. That won't give us total herd immunity but is enough to prevent exponential growth in infections, especially as the number will keep growing.
24
30/03/2021 13:40:29 19 31
bbc
Open now and stop this nonsense, NOW,
Mor. On Removed
31
30/03/2021 13:43:36 4 6
bbc
Matty =Brainwashed
39
30/03/2021 13:45:04 2 3
bbc
baby
15
30/03/2021 13:37:24 7 13
bbc
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on"

So will this become an annual ritual?

KACHIIINNNG!
27
30/03/2021 13:42:19 9 4
bbc
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on" != "Covid antibodies disappear within a year"

Some people need a primer in logic
Removed
29
30/03/2021 13:39:28 38 12
bbc
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
34
30/03/2021 13:44:20 17 1
bbc
Next slide please....
36
30/03/2021 13:44:46 2 3
bbc
So now we want comparisons...
37
30/03/2021 13:45:00 1 0
bbc
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833 look at the charts on this
230
30/03/2021 14:13:25 4 17
bbc
Sorry can't do that, the BBC has been taken over by the Tory party, all it's senior positions now have Tory party appointees in place. It is now little more than a Tory party propaganda outlet and does not publish information that shows the Tory party to have made an absolute pigs ear of handling this crisis.
300
30/03/2021 14:23:05 0 0
bbc
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/excess-mortality-across-countries-in-2020/
is about the best I have found - does not suggest the UK is in any sense and exemplar but useful context in a world full of statistical confusion.
339
30/03/2021 14:30:08 2 2
bbc
For 1 it's not a competition and 2 you'd only question the validity of the graphs anyway.
380
30/03/2021 14:40:14 3 1
bbc
Paraphrased as I can't think or read without the BBC showing me the facts BUT I'll criticise them when they do......
474
L_W
30/03/2021 14:58:52 0 0
bbc
Spectator have a superb Covid Tracker site which is updated daily.
https://data.spectator.co.uk/city/vaccines
676
30/03/2021 15:39:44 1 0
bbc
On death rates?
30/03/2021 19:32:59 0 0
bbc
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Unfortunately UK still has highest death rate in Europe :-(
14
30/03/2021 13:38:28 13 19
bbc
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
30
30/03/2021 13:43:26 13 9
bbc
Infections are low partially BECAUSE of the lockdown, since as the article points out only half the population have antibodies through previous exposure or vaccination. Without the on-going lockdown, we'd still be in the same mess as the USA and most of Europe.
167
30/03/2021 14:05:59 1 0
bbc
@Chris B what do you think wouldn't happen when lockdown is lifted in 4 weeks time that would happen if it was lifted tomorrow?
Mor. On Removed
31
30/03/2021 13:43:36 4 6
bbc
Matty =Brainwashed
30/03/2021 16:43:48 1 0
bbc
Well let’s hope you and yours catch it soon aye m-o-r-o-n-I-c fool
32
30/03/2021 13:43:58 181 103
bbc
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
72
30/03/2021 13:51:27 177 29
bbc
I looked closely at the pictures as Nottingham is my home town.....mainly young idiots causing trash everywhere and the me me ideology out in force! I despair and it's not even Easter yet...glad I moved away.
88
30/03/2021 13:53:58 30 35
bbc
It's absolutely disgusting that the media is focussing on people going to a park. How many times do people have to be outside is much safer? This will not lead to a spike just like people going to beaches last year did not lead to any spike at all.
132
30/03/2021 13:59:53 26 38
bbc
Stop your moaning. Why can’t people start enjoying themselves. We can’t stay in constant fear of covid
357
30/03/2021 14:35:08 7 12
bbc
They're young , almost certainly won't catch it and don't care what self righteous paranoids like you think. Good luck to them, no reason they should stay inside any longer just to please hysterical geriatrics who've all had the jab now.
369
30/03/2021 14:39:05 4 12
bbc
Covid has a 99% plus survival rate. What's the big deal?
704
30/03/2021 15:43:51 4 4
bbc
We are a year into this pandemic and somehow some people still don't understand that the risk of coronavirus spreading outdoors in a park is negligible compared to a supermarket or workplace.
709
30/03/2021 15:44:05 0 3
bbc
our bodies are full of virus, this over reaction only benefits big pharma, gives politicians a platform to sprout horns & spout nonsense; never had to deal with more stupid than bojo
842
30/03/2021 16:07:51 3 1
bbc
Similar scenes to what we witnessed on Clapham Common recently. Different reason but still many not socially distanced and not mask wearing at both events.
853
30/03/2021 16:11:40 2 2
bbc
Simple answer avoid Nottingham even when restrictions end. Revenue is what all towns and cities will be vying for.
889
30/03/2021 16:16:33 5 5
bbc
How many times: THEY. ARE. OUT. SIDE. Transmission outdoors is *possible* but largely unheard-of. Over 97% of all transmission takes place indoors among large groups. And yet how many handwringing news stories are about people forced to go to the office or 'just popping over for a cup of tea'? Funny how moral panics always involve young people who tend to socialise outdoors rather than indoors.
898
30/03/2021 16:18:19 1 2
bbc
Lets see how long it takes for new varients appear and prove the last 12 months has been a waste of time and money
30/03/2021 17:02:41 4 0
bbc
There were no spikes last year after the beach fests or BLM protests, when the Covid Cultists were predicting them.
30/03/2021 17:45:03 1 0
bbc
They’ll catch COVID & be absolutely fine. As is often the case.
30/03/2021 17:49:45 0 0
bbc
I agree with you. But what about mass protests? That's a mass get together too, isn't it?
30/03/2021 19:00:41 1 0
bbc
They just want to live their lives. What is your right to deny them that? I presume you've been vaccinated, wear a mask 24 hours a day. Shouldn't you be happy with yourself and mind your own business? You've been following the rules= you're not going to die!
30/03/2021 19:39:58 0 0
bbc
Well most appeared to be students. They try to fight so 16 year old can vote but during covid I think we have all seen that anyone under 21 does not appear to have the intelligence to vote
30/03/2021 21:36:47 1 0
bbc
Why would a young person be bothered, in the slighest, about catching an illness that is nothing more than a mild cough to them? Assuming their older relatives have been sensible enough to be vaccinated.
33
30/03/2021 13:44:01 15 22
bbc
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
51
30/03/2021 13:46:49 12 13
bbc
There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed

WRONG !
58
Bob
30/03/2021 13:48:55 3 4
bbc
All the vulnerable groups vaccinated but still we get 330-350 hospitalisations per day, and that is with the measures in place.

Now imagine you took those measures away.

You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
62
30/03/2021 13:49:30 5 3
bbc
HMG are releasing lockdown in stages - it would be truly stupid to allow another peak
67
30/03/2021 13:50:23 4 1
bbc
That's still 30+million people who don't have antibodies. And as the virus is actively seeking to mutate so that it can find more hosts, perhaps Johnson has finally learnt a lesson that being cautious is better than having yet another lockdown later in the year.
105
30/03/2021 13:56:13 0 0
bbc
The NHS needs to try and catch up with the backlog so they really don’t need another wave.
355
30/03/2021 14:34:49 1 1
bbc
The successful will know how the virus is spread.
Some variants may undermine the Vax in some unknown measure.
The government is trying to take best path decisions.
29
30/03/2021 13:39:28 38 12
bbc
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
34
30/03/2021 13:44:20 17 1
bbc
Next slide please....
259
30/03/2021 14:17:50 4 4
bbc
All the money spent on a briefing room and still nothing spent on the technology
35
30/03/2021 13:44:40 4 10
bbc
"Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, either through infection or vaccination"

I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
52
30/03/2021 13:47:27 8 2
bbc
Yet not one scientific study has proven this
56
30/03/2021 13:48:11 0 0
bbc
Ah no, your not naturally immune, you're thinking of asymptomatic
65
30/03/2021 13:49:56 2 0
bbc
I suspect someone is making stuff up....
29
30/03/2021 13:39:28 38 12
bbc
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
36
30/03/2021 13:44:46 2 3
bbc
So now we want comparisons...
29
30/03/2021 13:39:28 38 12
bbc
BBC can we have a table or a graph so we can compare with other countries please.
37
30/03/2021 13:45:00 1 0
bbc
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833 look at the charts on this
Has the BBC sorted out the HYS issues yet? Removed
38
30/03/2021 13:45:02 0 0
bbc
This is an issue of the AI trying to getting to grips with the IQ of HYSers.
Is this reality real?
Mor. On Removed
39
30/03/2021 13:45:04 2 3
bbc
baby
6
30/03/2021 13:34:29 175 50
bbc
Largely the result of vaccination - a few more weeks & we will have herd immunity for the current variants..... but we are not there yet. Unfortunately the rest of Europe is months behind us
40
30/03/2021 13:45:05 152 141
bbc
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
80
30/03/2021 13:52:48 127 9
bbc
Most people don't holiday in Equatorial Guinea or Suriname, not to mention that most of our tourism also comes from Europe compared to South America and Africa, so I'd say focusing on Europe is entirely appropriate.
95
30/03/2021 13:54:31 23 11
bbc
Because they are wealthier, developed countries.
106
30/03/2021 13:55:02 96 2
bbc
Probably because they are our closest neighbours and that we will want to travel to and from their counties as soon as possible. It's quite logical.
148
30/03/2021 14:01:41 36 6
bbc
Because many of us would dearly love to have had a summer holiday in Europe this year and are looking on in horror at the utter mess they are making of things over there.
177
30/03/2021 14:07:22 60 2
bbc
Because it 26 miles from us, not thousands FGS!
188
30/03/2021 14:08:30 32 3
bbc
Because we expect the EU to keep up with UK and USA.

The others not so much.
317
30/03/2021 14:26:12 4 8
bbc
It's a deep unrequited love for certain people that voted negatively in a certain ref, gotta bring up the crush at every opportunity then be like "urghh nah uh don't even like them"
331
30/03/2021 14:26:12 8 1
bbc
because they are our nearest neighbour?
366
Rob
30/03/2021 14:38:34 0 4
bbc
You wait until June, biggest party ever. Best that you don't go out for a few months then. Yes its against the law at the moment, but will have little impact over all.
370
30/03/2021 14:39:08 12 5
bbc
People (remoaners) have been questioning the fact that we have left the EU by a majority vote. And saying that we will be worse off without them. Brexiteers say the EU are shambolic and we can do better without them...
409
30/03/2021 14:46:52 8 0
bbc
You mean you really can't work that out!
467
30/03/2021 14:57:06 8 2
bbc
Because that’s where most people go on holiday. Makes sense.
471
30/03/2021 14:57:48 11 0
bbc
if your neighbours house was on fire you be rightfully worried - a few streets away not so much.
504
30/03/2021 15:06:09 7 5
bbc
because we just escaped the dictatorship
525
30/03/2021 15:01:22 4 3
bbc
Because it's comparing like with like.
Africa has far fewer cases as most people there die before they become old enough for Covid to be a threat.
670
30/03/2021 15:38:37 1 0
bbc
Because they are only 22 miles away from us across the channel in France, and bang next to us in Eire...
749
30/03/2021 15:51:41 2 4
bbc
And note Canada now paused astra zenica rollout. Don't see anti EU brigade criticising them
858
30/03/2021 16:12:57 4 0
bbc
Because that is where the greatest risk for the UK lies. Look at the headline in the Mail today. "40 MPs demand all restrictions are lifted and foreign holidays allowed."
We may be ahead but the vaccine does not prevent transmission, it may reduce it. The last thing countries need is millions of British tourists adding to their infection rates.
984
30/03/2021 16:28:42 0 0
bbc
Because it's next door, and so a bigger source of infection.
30/03/2021 16:40:06 1 0
bbc
We’re far more vulnerable to importing cases from Europe than we are from other continents. Our first wave was mostly imported from Italy, France and Spain
30/03/2021 16:48:36 1 1
bbc
"Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?"

Are you familiar with the layout of the world?
30/03/2021 16:48:51 0 1
bbc
coz we it is on our doorstep and they are determined to wreck the UK's vaccine program - and that's but 2 of many reasons
14
30/03/2021 13:38:28 13 19
bbc
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
41
30/03/2021 13:45:14 6 3
bbc
Boris listened to you lot twice before, and we have 125,000 dead. You still don't understand how this thing works, do you?
158
30/03/2021 14:03:45 1 3
bbc
@sticksinmud yes I do understand how it works. "Protect the NHS" was the mantra for lockdowns being introduced and there are 26 people in ICU in Scotland. We've vaccinated (at least one dose) almost everyone at risk.

Maybe it's you who doesn't quite understand?
42
30/03/2021 13:45:38 14 16
bbc
I'm really looking forward to the UK getting a handle on this, then we can proceed with a public enquiry into the handling of covid - £bns or our money possibly given away in dodgy contracts, likely 100,000+ dead.

An impartial enquiry should be held - with the amount of damage that's been done we need to know if someone is accountable and act justly.
102
30/03/2021 13:55:43 13 8
bbc
Country multi-billions in debt due to government covering peoples jobs and lively-hoods, mine not one of those lucky people unfortunately, for an act of nature that no one could foresee or have been prepared to deal with.. Yep, lets spend a bit more of my hard-earned tax contributions on a pointless blame-game exercise .. get real..
112
30/03/2021 13:56:58 0 7
bbc
The people/country that are responsible are China for releasing this illness in the first place. As well as this it was the PM fault for not closing borders as soon as this illness was heard of. At least now we will hopefully close our borders when future new illnesses are spoken of from around the world.
113
30/03/2021 13:57:06 7 2
bbc
Marvellous idea, let's spend billions on an enquiry that will have the same result as the Leveson one, i.e. nothing changes.
Its essential that we have a full, fair and independant enquiry into the Govts handling of the virus

Its estimated that Boris Johnsons dither in locking down the nation last March cost 20,000 british lives

Many more were lost because he failed to learn and tried his very best to "save Christmas"

And not to mention dodgy PPE contracts and 37 billion spent om track and trace
193
30/03/2021 14:08:53 1 2
bbc
ONS figures released now show 150,000 dead due to Covid. (including those who clung on to life in ICU beyond 28 days from 1st diagnosis before their bodies finally gave out as a result of the damage done by the virus)

In countries like Norway, Denmark, & Finland that handled the crisis effectively they managed to restrict the death rate to a fraction of what the UK has suffered.
25
30/03/2021 13:40:54 7 14
bbc
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.

Give yourself a pat on the back... REALLY.

Now think about a glass being half full or half empty.
That analogy gives the virus a lot of scope to invade a host, replicate and mutate.

Let us not get complacent and keep an eye out for other viruses that are on the horizon which may be worse than this "weakling"
A more careful normal.
43
30/03/2021 13:45:55 3 0
bbc
This is as of 14th March, so over 2 weeks ago and as it says in the article is compared to only 1/3 at the start of March, another 6 million people and almost 10% of the population have been vaccinated since then so it's likely we're past 60% by now. That won't give us total herd immunity but is enough to prevent exponential growth in infections, especially as the number will keep growing.
320
30/03/2021 14:26:40 0 0
bbc
Why was this such a bad pandemic?
Because it was (is) "The wrong sort of virus."

Next one please.
18
DJP
30/03/2021 13:38:42 183 18
bbc
But they still bug everybody.
44
30/03/2021 13:45:57 23 1
bbc
No that's Ant and Dec.
24
30/03/2021 13:40:29 19 31
bbc
Open now and stop this nonsense, NOW,
45
30/03/2021 13:46:03 3 8
bbc
Vice signaller.

Why is it you want young people to catch covid and potentially suffer long covid?

Us youngsters are paying taxes to keep the Ponzi scheme known as your pension going

Plus we’re paying off the Tory debt to do so.
14
30/03/2021 13:38:28 13 19
bbc
You'd have to actively go looking for covid but we're still in lockdown for another 4 weeks minimum? Crazy.
46
gc
30/03/2021 13:46:15 0 1
bbc
YEH ...LIKE cr az y
22
30/03/2021 13:40:11 300 51
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
47
30/03/2021 13:46:29 89 109
bbc
Herd immunity it’s by 30m people catching it within 4 weeks really isn’t the same.
325
30/03/2021 14:27:10 4 0
bbc
You are Neil Ferguson and I claim my £5
557
30/03/2021 15:19:07 1 0
bbc
Which was only ever a stick to loudly bash the drum with - in the minds of those with an agenda, detached from reality. Heard immunity was always going to be the way out of this, hooray it's now close! (60%+ I believe)
716
30/03/2021 15:45:42 0 0
bbc
Anybody any idea how long immunity lasts. No answers.
48
30/03/2021 13:46:41 1 7
bbc
The activities in Nottingham today will be just 1 example used by the Government to justify another impending lockdown...
61
30/03/2021 13:49:13 8 7
bbc
Well if monkeys listened to the government and didn't do stupid things we wouldn't have a lockdown
Removed
129
30/03/2021 13:59:19 3 1
bbc
What really irked me was the amount of litter. What sort of people think that's OK? I would call them animals, but that would be rude to animals, who don't litter!
150
30/03/2021 14:02:43 4 2
bbc
Stop your moaning we have to start living again. If your that worried stay at home
168
30/03/2021 14:06:27 2 0
bbc
Can we make it just Nottingham then? - Maybe its biased reporting or police forces...but nearly all these illegal events (except protesting which seems to be a Bristol/London special!) are reporting by, Nottinghamshire / Derbyshire / West Midlands / Greater Manchester police forces?
209
30/03/2021 14:10:14 0 1
bbc
I think more in terms of -->The upshot from those activities --some people are going to die; others seriously ill for a time; some with this 'long-covid'; others needing to quarantine everyone at home (absent from work, school); the unlucky spreading it everywhere they go ... I hope not to meet them.
Alarming to think that many people may break the Rules, they live in your own street and town.
49
30/03/2021 13:46:41 107 12
bbc
So like bon jovi we are half way there. More people need to get vaccinated but with a slow and methodical approach that we are having to releasing lockdown we should be fine
121
30/03/2021 13:57:59 81 3
bbc
Well done for getting Bon Jovi in there.
145
30/03/2021 14:01:19 16 2
bbc
Very apt , as the other half are “living on a prayer “ at the moment.
152
30/03/2021 14:03:01 8 0
bbc
More than half way there because you don't need to reach 100% of people with antibodies to stop it spreading (and this was the number with antibodies over 2 weeks ago). We don't what the exact number we need is to make it impossible for R to go above 1 but it's likely to be in the region of 70%.
212
30/03/2021 14:10:04 11 1
bbc
Problem is a significant proportion of our people are livin' on a prayer instead of getting vaccinated!
337
zan
30/03/2021 14:29:29 8 1
bbc
I told the vaccinator Lay your hands on me. She said I’ll be there for you, just keep the faith. I wanted to Runaway but she said We got it going on . Now We got it going on and I’m ready for Summertime
934
30/03/2021 16:22:58 2 0
bbc
Keep the faith
50
30/03/2021 13:46:45 499 128
bbc
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
Well, apparently it's the fault of the government for not 'building trust' with some ethnic groups Removed
75
gc
30/03/2021 13:52:06 59 20
bbc
Appreciate and concur, and if you can get one of the dummies on this site to vaccinate you've scored a hit!
83
30/03/2021 13:53:26 30 14
bbc
Bang on!
173
30/03/2021 14:07:10 69 9
bbc
Flat earthers - found all around the world :)
236
30/03/2021 14:14:05 27 18
bbc
"The quicker the R number lowers"

The R number isn't going to lower which is why any real scientist you ask will tell you it's a terrible way to measure infections when statistically zero people are infected.
253
30/03/2021 14:16:37 11 7
bbc
Insulting people rarely work - don't join the diplomatic service just yet
335
30/03/2021 14:29:16 22 54
bbc
Tell me what the long term effects of the vaccine are and I'll consider it.
363
30/03/2021 14:37:20 22 52
bbc
You can get vaccinated if you want, mate, but there is no way on earth I am going to allow an experimental drug, whose long-term effects are unknown, to be put inside my body. I'd rather take my chances with Covid, for which the survival rate is 99%-plus.
374
30/03/2021 14:39:51 13 37
bbc
It does not protect you from illness it just reduces the chance of serious illness.
Those individuals who would most likely suffer serious illness have all been vaccinated, assuming they wanted the jab.
I am unlikely to develop serious illness and I do not trust the scientific claims of pharmaceutical companies who place profits above all else, including saving lives.
Keep your vaccine..
Removed
Removed
Removed
Removed
Removed
487
30/03/2021 15:00:52 1 0
bbc
do you also sell bottles of 'DR FEEL GOOD'?
517
30/03/2021 15:09:41 3 13
bbc
R number is really imaginary number. We can only know R number by testing 100% of people with 100% percent accurate test.
606
30/03/2021 15:26:26 4 12
bbc
What a fool. You actually think you’re going to be free in the future.
631
nfn
30/03/2021 15:32:01 4 0
bbc
The earth is flat isn't it? Please tell me you're having me on.
650
30/03/2021 15:35:08 3 7
bbc
More virtue signalling:

" So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good."

Well if they had enough supply, they'd be on the other groups by now.

"So as soon as you can" for the rest of us, is May... but well done on your virtual points..I'd happily have it now otherwise.
33
30/03/2021 13:44:01 15 22
bbc
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
51
30/03/2021 13:46:49 12 13
bbc
There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed

WRONG !
59
30/03/2021 13:48:56 1 1
bbc
Pray do tell.
201
30/03/2021 14:09:31 3 1
bbc
It isn't wrong. There is zero chance of the NHS being overwhelmed in the next few months. Winter's always the busiest time and total admissions with covid are now just over 4,000 when it was almost 40,000 at the peak and that number has more than halved since schools went back.
We've vaccinated enough people it's just not possible for hospitalisations to soar enough to overwhelm the NHS from covid
35
30/03/2021 13:44:40 4 10
bbc
"Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, either through infection or vaccination"

I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
52
30/03/2021 13:47:27 8 2
bbc
Yet not one scientific study has proven this
22
30/03/2021 13:40:11 300 51
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
53
30/03/2021 13:47:31 43 16
bbc
Natural herd immunity. Just ask Brazilians how they feel about that approach.
682
jki
30/03/2021 15:40:23 1 0
bbc
Most are ok with it....the media, of course are not.
765
30/03/2021 15:54:30 0 0
bbc
They should be happy with their low death rate compared to us
54
30/03/2021 13:47:33 7 4
bbc
We estimate that maybe, probably that there could be approximately a significant number of guesses made in the compilation of the numbers used throughout this fiasco.
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.

The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.

Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing.
Removed
55
30/03/2021 13:47:39 20 144
bbc
It’s easy to donate vaccines when they’ve been imported from places like the eu.

I suppose you’d be in favour of Elitest Johnson sending millions of vaccines abroad if we had t vaccinated enough people ?
139
30/03/2021 14:00:31 31 2
bbc
The AZ vaccine is being made in many countries now so there is no reliance on the EU, just the EU that is sooooooo slow with the EMA holding up production in the Netherlands.
151
30/03/2021 14:02:52 33 2
bbc
Vaccines are owned by the companies that produce them initially and then the customers that they are sold to. They not automatically owned by the government of the country that they are produced in. That's communism or just plain theft.
162
30/03/2021 14:05:14 39 2
bbc
UK is one of the worst affected countries on the planet. If it was any other country with any other problem, resources would be rightfully prioritised to help them. We shouldn't feel guilty about having the foresight to order sufficient vaccines and treat our own first. Remember, in the event of a loss of cabin pressure, make sure you secure your own oxygen mask before helping others...
450
30/03/2021 14:51:12 12 0
bbc
Funny how you ignore the origin of the AZ vaccine & all the precursor components the UK is producing for use in EU based production facilities.
Oh & the EU hasn't made one single dose of vaccine. In fact they've DELAYED both production & distribution through their bungling.
479
30/03/2021 14:59:45 7 0
bbc
They’ve been imported from private companies, not a government or power bloc. Wakey wakey..... ??
767
30/03/2021 15:54:43 0 0
bbc
You've been mentally mugged by cynical EU messages trying to hide their own failures. The EU don't make vaccines nor do the UK. Vaccines are supplied by companies who make them to those that purchase them, hense the EU is exporting vaccines becuase it screwed up not becuase its generous.
35
30/03/2021 13:44:40 4 10
bbc
"Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, either through infection or vaccination"

I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
56
30/03/2021 13:48:11 0 0
bbc
Ah no, your not naturally immune, you're thinking of asymptomatic
7
pTc
30/03/2021 13:34:55 18 18
bbc
And the other half- if we work on the basis those with antibodies have had COVID, or are vulnerable and have had vaccines- have an immune system perfectly capable of handling a COVID infection with no real consequences. Pint anybody?
57
30/03/2021 13:48:35 0 2
bbc
That’s not true.
33
30/03/2021 13:44:01 15 22
bbc
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
58
Bob
30/03/2021 13:48:55 3 4
bbc
All the vulnerable groups vaccinated but still we get 330-350 hospitalisations per day, and that is with the measures in place.

Now imagine you took those measures away.

You either choose a flip-flopping society where we go from lockdown to freedom to lockdown to freedom or you put up with a balanced and slow roadmap that means you won't need to flip-flop.
216
30/03/2021 14:11:44 2 0
bbc
Actually it's lower than that now, the whole UK is under 300 hospital admissions a day and England is under 220. The dashboard is always a bit out of date as the figures are updated by the NHS after 4PM.
30/03/2021 17:20:23 0 1
bbc
Some of those hospitalisations are FROM the vaccine effects. Less bad than real CV but still putting folks in hospital
51
30/03/2021 13:46:49 12 13
bbc
There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed

WRONG !
59
30/03/2021 13:48:56 1 1
bbc
Pray do tell.
3
30/03/2021 13:32:37 27 24
bbc
Open the public houses.
60
30/03/2021 13:49:03 8 17
bbc
I hope they have vaccine passports to keep people like you away from me
172
30/03/2021 14:07:06 4 4
bbc
Come out from under that sofa, you silly little kitten you.
226
30/03/2021 14:12:59 2 0
bbc
Be careful what you wish for
669
30/03/2021 15:38:22 2 0
bbc
Or you could just stay indoors.
30/03/2021 17:12:50 4 0
bbc
I hope there are no vaccine passports to keep people like you away from me.
30/03/2021 17:37:51 1 1
bbc
If you’ve had the vaccine you’ll be fine. Do you wear safety shoes to keep someone else’s feet from breaking? No. No you don’t. Please go away and learn how vaccines work and what they are for.
48
30/03/2021 13:46:41 1 7
bbc
The activities in Nottingham today will be just 1 example used by the Government to justify another impending lockdown...
61
30/03/2021 13:49:13 8 7
bbc
Well if monkeys listened to the government and didn't do stupid things we wouldn't have a lockdown
89
30/03/2021 13:54:03 2 1
bbc
@badger Strange comment - it was the government that decided to do essentially nothing throughout Feb and early March 2020 - if they had listened to the warnings then (or used the slightest bit of common sense), the disease need never have become out of control. That is how we would have avoided the lockdown (or certainly, such a long series of lockdowns).
161
30/03/2021 14:05:10 0 4
bbc
Alternatively if the monkey running the government listened to the experts and didn't do stupid things then:
1. he wouldn't have got Covid himself
2. we would have locked down in early March 2020 instead of waiting for Carrie to have her baby shower and saved 30,000 lives.
3. we would have locked down again in September and saved another 80,000 lives
etc...
33
30/03/2021 13:44:01 15 22
bbc
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
62
30/03/2021 13:49:30 5 3
bbc
HMG are releasing lockdown in stages - it would be truly stupid to allow another peak
2
Ian
30/03/2021 13:32:00 49 37
bbc
That's that sorted then. Let's get back to work.
63
30/03/2021 13:49:30 23 2
bbc
Not everyone messed about on furlough you know
64
30/03/2021 13:49:33 52 23
bbc
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..

If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
84
30/03/2021 13:53:27 84 16
bbc
Less admin, just easier to vaccinate everybody. And how do you prove someone really had it? Having the vaccine isn't much different from being re-infected in real life, so there's no health risk.
86
30/03/2021 13:53:45 12 2
bbc
You're in the wrong place for sensible replies. Vaccine is not the same as body's reaction to the virus itself.. but go and look it up if you do actually want to know. A simple question to Google will find the answers if you're careful who is publishing it. Don't ask Facebook / Twittergram
87
30/03/2021 13:53:51 11 4
bbc
Because the NHS doesn't know who has had it so we have to jab them all just to be sure.
97
30/03/2021 13:54:53 11 5
bbc
Antibodies are the result of recent infection and don't indicate if there is long term immunity. They're the bullets still flying around from the fighting. Better safe than sorry.
101
30/03/2021 13:55:40 9 12
bbc
Jabs gives greater protection because the body makes more antibodies of the correct type than it does when facing the real virus.
119
gc
30/03/2021 13:57:59 2 3
bbc
There are somethings we know and somethings we don`t know, then there are things we know that we don`t know, and just maybe there are some things that we know we don`t know and would rather like to not know. I think?
128
30/03/2021 13:59:15 6 7
bbc
Their immunity is more likely to be short lived and the vaccine enhances it.
218
30/03/2021 14:11:53 6 4
bbc
Because otherwise Bill Gates wouldn't be able to get his nanobots into everybody.
268
30/03/2021 14:19:15 4 2
bbc
Because it effectively multiplies the level of immunity
312
bex
30/03/2021 14:25:21 5 6
bbc
Because 2 doses of the vaccine gives antibodies with greater longevity than antibodies generated from past infection, also some people don’t generate an antibody response to the virus, they use T cells and other immune response mechanisms to fight off the virus ( long covid).
360
30/03/2021 14:36:24 2 2
bbc
Belt and braces.
470
30/03/2021 14:57:33 2 0
bbc
Realistically, I suspect that you're better off having caught it. If any "passport" was to be introduced, then it should be based on having antibodies. I don't think it'll be necessary as most of the population will have had the vaccine in a few months.

If you get the vaccine, you'll most likely boost your antibodies further and kill it much quicker than those who have not caught it.
589
30/03/2021 15:20:36 0 5
bbc
Because Covid induced antibodies don't appear to last very long compared to those from the vaccine.
932
30/03/2021 16:22:22 1 5
bbc
Because the jab provides a better level of cover and makes it far easier to establish an absolute baseline.
992
30/03/2021 16:29:36 0 3
bbc
Hey! You can get this answer from TWIV, a podcast about virology that does a weekly Covid clinical update. It's a bit technical but detailed, mature and non-hysterical, unlike news sources. In short: you should still get the vaccine because the "antibody training" that the vaccine gives to your body is stronger and longer-lasting than your body's memory in response to natural infection.
30/03/2021 16:32:03 1 4
bbc
I thought the vaccine antibodies were generally more and lasted longer, but also admin is easier.
30/03/2021 16:50:44 2 3
bbc
Because in time the antibodies wear off, that’s why we will probably have to have a top up jab every 12 months as we do with the flu vaccine
30/03/2021 17:03:47 3 2
bbc
You really haven't been following have you! Just go and get your jab like a big boy.
30/03/2021 17:42:00 1 1
bbc
So basically the answer is because we still don't know exactly how the immunity will work from catching and recovering from Covid 19. It is likely that in most cases you will have a period of immunity we just don't know how long for.

The vaccine would act as a sort of booster shot to your own immunity and may provide additional benefits on top.

I'm a Paramedic Practitioner and trained vaccinator
30/03/2021 17:46:13 1 2
bbc
They don't appear to last, as many cases of second infection has occurred. Think about it, even if you get a really nasty flu, say Flu A...you will have immunity for a while but certainly within a year or two you can catch it again.
35
30/03/2021 13:44:40 4 10
bbc
"Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, either through infection or vaccination"

I suspect there's at least a small % who are naturally immune
65
30/03/2021 13:49:56 2 0
bbc
I suspect someone is making stuff up....
8
30/03/2021 13:35:21 8 30
bbc
Panic PANIC. Chris Whitty will be excited he as minister of oppression can crush the public beneath Patel's jackboot
66
30/03/2021 13:50:12 6 0
bbc
Minister of not giving a hoot about politics and just telling you how it is. There, fixed it for you.
33
30/03/2021 13:44:01 15 22
bbc
And still the Government talks variants and third waves in its desperate attempts to justify its 'road map'. Imagine we're not under lockdown restrictions now, half the population has antibodies, all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. There is zero chance the NHS can be overwhelmed and summer is coming, but the PM says we should lock down until June just to make sure. Any takers?
67
30/03/2021 13:50:23 4 1
bbc
That's still 30+million people who don't have antibodies. And as the virus is actively seeking to mutate so that it can find more hosts, perhaps Johnson has finally learnt a lesson that being cautious is better than having yet another lockdown later in the year.
15
30/03/2021 13:37:24 7 13
bbc
"Vast majority retain Covid antibodies six months on"

So will this become an annual ritual?

KACHIIINNNG!
68
30/03/2021 13:50:53 1 1
bbc
There’s a big difference between retention of circulating antibodies and having life-long memory cells which can rapidly produce more antibodies upon infection.

So hopefully annual boosters won’t be necessary.
50
30/03/2021 13:46:45 499 128
bbc
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
69
bbc
Well, apparently it's the fault of the government for not 'building trust' with some ethnic groups Removed
155
30/03/2021 14:03:19 38 126
bbc
Perhaps you should find out why there's a lack of trust?
163
30/03/2021 14:05:17 167 44
bbc
I blame the media (particularly The Guardian, Independent, Sky News and BBC) who constantly spin a narrative without conclusive evidence about 'systemic racism' that builds distrust. This distrust doubtlessly has resulted in lower vaccine uptake and lives lost in minority communities.
185
30/03/2021 14:08:25 77 8
bbc
You'll find it is always 'someone elses fault'...
252
30/03/2021 14:16:22 47 8
bbc
I think people would blame the government if their loo collapsed under them. The people to blame here are those that peddle lies and those stupid enough to believe them. I wonder if an injection is on the horizon for common sense? as it seems people have lost this over the last few years.
255
30/03/2021 14:17:13 12 51
bbc
Er, if you write that as the Government doing very little on systemic racism and actively encouraging income , educational and opportunity inequality, then yes (much of the impact on ethnic communities is because of the impacts around those last ones)
379
30/03/2021 14:40:12 10 0
bbc
Well, apparently its the fault of EVERY government
And if I were to refuse to have dealings with folk from certain ethnic groups on the grounds that they were less likely to have been vaccinated and therefore more likely to infect me, that - presumably - would be construed as racist. Removed
477
Pip
30/03/2021 14:59:27 1 0
bbc
Or any group..............?
498
30/03/2021 15:03:45 21 5
bbc
are these the same ethnic groups that avoid the census poll and keep below the radar?
535
30/03/2021 15:14:06 6 7
bbc
Well the now 150,000 deaths are UK govs fault.
Taiwan, singapore, Japan, S Korea, ozz, New Zealand haven't had that level of deaths, covid+ or economic damage.
The vaccines.. Weren't ukgovs idea or invention.
630
30/03/2021 15:32:01 22 4
bbc
If Black Lives Matter, why not get vaccinated? Confused.com.
This is good news. The vaccination programme is undoubtedly helping the country to get back on its feet.

The UK gov has made the largest contribution to GAVI/Covax so that other nations can benefit.

Now all we need to do is sort out the numpties in the EU who have tried so hard to undermine the AZ vaccine to their own detriment. Just spiteful anti-UK political posturing.
Removed
70
30/03/2021 13:51:08 11 20
bbc
Lol. I wonder what the next hot anti-EU topic will be. Probably back to fish.
71
30/03/2021 13:51:20 7 1
bbc
T-cell immunity seems to be more important in providing younger people with their greater natural resistance to the virus. The antibodies appear to be more relevant for the older, higher-risk population, so it is great that the vaccines provide this.
537
30/03/2021 15:14:58 2 2
bbc
T cells help stimulate the production of antibodies on a supply and demand basis although this ability reduces with age hence the need for older people to be vaccinated for flu and other respiratory ailments.
32
30/03/2021 13:43:58 181 103
bbc
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
72
30/03/2021 13:51:27 177 29
bbc
I looked closely at the pictures as Nottingham is my home town.....mainly young idiots causing trash everywhere and the me me ideology out in force! I despair and it's not even Easter yet...glad I moved away.
85
30/03/2021 13:53:41 6 0
bbc
Before there are comments, I moved to a village in Leicestershire, nowhere near Leicester either!
712
30/03/2021 15:44:39 4 5
bbc
they are trying to live normally, we are not a police state yet
798
30/03/2021 15:58:18 7 1
bbc
I saw that too. And there I was thinking that poll after poll keep telling us how important the young think the environment is. Yeh, looking at the mess afterwards it really seems like it!
bob
30/03/2021 16:45:34 1 2
bbc
The problem is there is no effective sanction. If they pass the virus on and kill someone, who will punish them?
73
30/03/2021 13:51:51 3 5
bbc
Surely Auntie Bodies is a term used to describe people who work for the BBC.
92
30/03/2021 13:54:21 5 1
bbc
There's also a term for people who claim not to like the BBC, but still create an account, validate it, then log into HYS almost every day to find stories to upset themselves with and comment on them. But I suspect that term is filtered.
16
30/03/2021 13:38:11 7 15
bbc
I blame Brexit.
74
30/03/2021 13:52:00 5 1
bbc
At least it allowed us to close the borders so we didn't have people coming here from abroad spreading the virus. Oh wait, we didn't....
50
30/03/2021 13:46:45 499 128
bbc
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
75
gc
30/03/2021 13:52:06 59 20
bbc
Appreciate and concur, and if you can get one of the dummies on this site to vaccinate you've scored a hit!
76
30/03/2021 13:52:13 1 5
bbc
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.

Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.

That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
96
30/03/2021 13:54:46 4 0
bbc
No, because one dose gives you more than 50% protection.
17
30/03/2021 13:38:39 21 8
bbc
non-scientrific nonsense. If you have has Covid you have antibodies. As have all of us who have been vaccinated. The rest can pass it about and until ~80% have antibodies there is still the certaintly dropping all constraint will cause admissions to hospital to soar once more.....
77
30/03/2021 13:52:15 5 1
bbc
No, hospital admissions cannot soar now because 75% of the hospital admissions were in the vulnerable groups and they've all been offered a first dose which already reduces hospitalisations by 80% and over10% have had a second dose.
At that point the level of cases you'd need to see hospitalisations soar is unrealistically high, especially as it would take weeks for cases to rise.
6
30/03/2021 13:34:29 175 50
bbc
Largely the result of vaccination - a few more weeks & we will have herd immunity for the current variants..... but we are not there yet. Unfortunately the rest of Europe is months behind us
78
30/03/2021 13:52:26 32 50
bbc
Who cares about Europe? They certainly don't care about us.
289
30/03/2021 14:22:01 21 14
bbc
They do care this is why they demanded free access to the UK for their goods. And that is what they got. What did they give in return ? Nothing.
758
30/03/2021 15:53:21 1 0
bbc
Rightly
866
30/03/2021 16:14:22 1 3
bbc
oh boo hoo poor you
79
30/03/2021 13:49:54 60 30
bbc
BBC's very own undercover investigator shows that 'tests' on Covid are being compromised through a mix of incompetence and couldn't carelessness!

When people here and there and everywhere questioned the reliability of Covid testing they were labelled as 'conspiracy nuts'!
118
30/03/2021 13:57:56 28 6
bbc
Fair point
384
30/03/2021 14:41:44 1 2
bbc
Mmmm, conspiracy nuts, tasty....
584
Roy
30/03/2021 15:23:21 6 2
bbc
Absolutely. The testing at Milton Keynes should be suspended pending an investigation. Inadequate recruitment & selection, induction and training. Absence of management and leadership. Boris & Co are only concerned with bigging up the numbers. No concern for the integrity of the testing. Scandalous@
596
30/03/2021 15:24:47 8 1
bbc
That's not really true. People who said we shouldn't test, or contended that numbers were fake, grossly overstated etc. were called conspiracy nuts.

The undercover reporting merely shows that they will be less accurate, not defunct.
ems
30/03/2021 18:04:17 0 1
bbc
That test and trace system that cost the UK tax payer billions too. They can’t take criticism- our government
40
30/03/2021 13:45:05 152 141
bbc
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
80
30/03/2021 13:52:48 127 9
bbc
Most people don't holiday in Equatorial Guinea or Suriname, not to mention that most of our tourism also comes from Europe compared to South America and Africa, so I'd say focusing on Europe is entirely appropriate.
81
30/03/2021 13:52:59 12 0
bbc
I'd be interested to know the % in young adults and children. When Schools and Unis went back last September, infection rates rocketed. A friend told me his daughter got it in her accommodation at Leeds Medical school (she was fine) and it seemed like it just fired trough the everyone living there. Newcastle and Northumbria Unis reported 1000 cases in one week.
90
30/03/2021 13:54:10 4 4
bbc
Our 5 year old is currently self isolating after a case in his class
270
30/03/2021 14:19:22 1 1
bbc
my friend, that ever reliable source of information
So Berlin is now pausing the Oxford astra zeneca vaccine for the under 60s... Good that's more for the sensible brits who are looking forward to a lovely summer of freedom.. Good old Germans always thinking they know best. Removed
111
30/03/2021 13:56:55 27 7
bbc
They're on the beach proving it right now!
117
30/03/2021 13:57:41 4 2
bbc
True, but the Germans already have their freedom, and are flooding Majorca as we speak.
130
30/03/2021 13:59:38 8 14
bbc
Or maybe they like Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and a number of other developed countries have serious concerns over the safety of the AZ vaccine.

Personnally I'd argue it is still safer than getting Covid, but then as most of Europe has been much better at suppressing the virus they perhaps have less of a critical need to vaccinate their populations.
238
SH
30/03/2021 14:14:16 4 0
bbc
Vaccine roll out is generally only paused for medical reasons, i.e when a person who's given the vaccine subsequently develops a life threatening medical condition, but to prevent further potential occurrences the vaccine has to be ruled out as the cause.
In the UK people die all the time, some of which will have been vaccinated, probably the 2 are not related so not reported but how do you know?
247
30/03/2021 14:15:58 3 3
bbc
Gives the EU Leadership more ammunition to fire at UK.
30/03/2021 16:31:24 1 2
bbc
I belive Canada suspended AZ today.
30/03/2021 18:33:54 0 0
bbc
Canada too
50
30/03/2021 13:46:45 499 128
bbc
The science says it protects you and those around you, not 100%, but substantially. So get vaccinated as soon as you can, dont mess about trying to find excuses not to, its for all of our good. The quicker the R number lowers, the sooner we get our freedoms back - except for some, it will always be 1984 and the earth will always be flat for them.
83
30/03/2021 13:53:26 30 14
bbc
Bang on!
64
30/03/2021 13:49:33 52 23
bbc
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..

If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
84
30/03/2021 13:53:27 84 16
bbc
Less admin, just easier to vaccinate everybody. And how do you prove someone really had it? Having the vaccine isn't much different from being re-infected in real life, so there's no health risk.
114
30/03/2021 13:57:20 5 9
bbc
I think that the presence of antibodies is all thats required.. and you can test for that.
126
30/03/2021 13:59:02 12 29
bbc
I think that the presence of antibodies is all thats required.. and you can test for that. My issue is that the vacinne has been rushed through and there isnt enough long term data yet
30/03/2021 16:54:16 0 0
bbc
Yes . v sensible answer.
72
30/03/2021 13:51:27 177 29
bbc
I looked closely at the pictures as Nottingham is my home town.....mainly young idiots causing trash everywhere and the me me ideology out in force! I despair and it's not even Easter yet...glad I moved away.
85
30/03/2021 13:53:41 6 0
bbc
Before there are comments, I moved to a village in Leicestershire, nowhere near Leicester either!
64
30/03/2021 13:49:33 52 23
bbc
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..

If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
86
30/03/2021 13:53:45 12 2
bbc
You're in the wrong place for sensible replies. Vaccine is not the same as body's reaction to the virus itself.. but go and look it up if you do actually want to know. A simple question to Google will find the answers if you're careful who is publishing it. Don't ask Facebook / Twittergram
64
30/03/2021 13:49:33 52 23
bbc
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..

If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
87
30/03/2021 13:53:51 11 4
bbc
Because the NHS doesn't know who has had it so we have to jab them all just to be sure.
32
30/03/2021 13:43:58 181 103
bbc
Whether half the country has Anti-bodies or not, let's see how long it takes for the likes of Nottingham locking down because all those idiots in the park congregating without masks thought themselves clever in holding a massive get together. Sorry but I will have no sympathy and it will serve them right, vaccine or no vaccine if they catch Covid and shame on them if they give it to someone else.
88
30/03/2021 13:53:58 30 35
bbc
It's absolutely disgusting that the media is focussing on people going to a park. How many times do people have to be outside is much safer? This will not lead to a spike just like people going to beaches last year did not lead to any spike at all.
153
30/03/2021 14:03:19 57 8
bbc
There is absolutely nothing wrong with meeting friends and family in this lovely sunshine, having picnics, strolling etc but brawling drunkenly in large crowds and leaving trash for others to pick up is both unsavoury and unsafe. What is it about sunshine that tends to attract selfish little oiks?
578
30/03/2021 15:15:37 7 6
bbc
Baseless nonsense.
The timing of rises in Covid cases in late summer correlated with the increase in stupid, selfish behaviour by people.
61
30/03/2021 13:49:13 8 7
bbc
Well if monkeys listened to the government and didn't do stupid things we wouldn't have a lockdown
89
30/03/2021 13:54:03 2 1
bbc
@badger Strange comment - it was the government that decided to do essentially nothing throughout Feb and early March 2020 - if they had listened to the warnings then (or used the slightest bit of common sense), the disease need never have become out of control. That is how we would have avoided the lockdown (or certainly, such a long series of lockdowns).
81
30/03/2021 13:52:59 12 0
bbc
I'd be interested to know the % in young adults and children. When Schools and Unis went back last September, infection rates rocketed. A friend told me his daughter got it in her accommodation at Leeds Medical school (she was fine) and it seemed like it just fired trough the everyone living there. Newcastle and Northumbria Unis reported 1000 cases in one week.
90
30/03/2021 13:54:10 4 4
bbc
Our 5 year old is currently self isolating after a case in his class
165
30/03/2021 14:05:43 5 2
bbc
i remember the good old days when kids couldn't catch it!!! Anyone else remember that?
91
30/03/2021 13:51:35 3 1
bbc
What amazing reporting, surely if 50% of the population have been vaccinated then it stands to reason that 50% are likely to antibodies.
124
30/03/2021 13:58:55 2 1
bbc
Its BS reporting

The ONS Study knows how old people are.

They could easily report the percentage in the over 50s group (which should be 80% plus due to vaccination) and the percentage under 50 (mostly unvaccinated so naturally acquired).

I suspect Covid has been doing most of the under 50s and the Vax has been doing most of the over 50s.
127
30/03/2021 13:59:09 0 0
bbc
Except that’s not what’s been found, half are vaccinated, there’s no way of knowing how many have had antibodies form naturally, and yet only half have antibodies
It should surely be, half and the additional numbers of natural immunity?
206
30/03/2021 14:10:08 0 1
bbc
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050

Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
73
30/03/2021 13:51:51 3 5
bbc
Surely Auntie Bodies is a term used to describe people who work for the BBC.
92
30/03/2021 13:54:21 5 1
bbc
There's also a term for people who claim not to like the BBC, but still create an account, validate it, then log into HYS almost every day to find stories to upset themselves with and comment on them. But I suspect that term is filtered.
170
30/03/2021 14:06:51 0 1
bbc
BBC is the only site I use. Dont read papers at all as I find them a waste of time.
224
30/03/2021 14:12:40 0 1
bbc
I agree with you. I like the content the BBC provides. This was merely a joke and was meant to be taken as such.
93
Ian
30/03/2021 13:54:22 84 31
bbc
?????? Half of UK citizens have the antibodies already! ??????

This proves what an amazing country we are and what amazing citizens we have?

Clearly, we're the best at growing antibodies.
122
30/03/2021 13:58:38 98 42
bbc
We're going to need those antibodies and jabs if we've got idiots like these in our towns and cities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050

Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
Removed
452
30/03/2021 14:52:52 15 3
bbc
Some amazing citizens maybe but there are still plenty of idiots around like in Nottingham the few spoiling it for the majority again. They should close the park and anyone arrested should be made to clear all the litter up in the park and then open up again
754
30/03/2021 15:52:35 0 3
bbc
Grow up. Not many antibodies when death rate soared.
22
30/03/2021 13:40:11 300 51
bbc
Herd immunity was a taboo subject this time last year, but every jab is another step closer to it. Well done to all involved in delivering the vaccination program!
94
30/03/2021 13:54:28 18 8
bbc
I see Vladimir P, aka Vlad the Invader, openly talks about Russia achieving herd immunity and no one either questions him or laughs.

Funny how different countries, different scientists and different journos make such a big difference to a population's view of a pandemic.

Tea, anyone?
492
Pip
30/03/2021 15:01:46 2 1
bbc
Trouble is, you only cross Putin once, and you're not heard of again. Good reason to keep shtumm...........?
30/03/2021 16:38:38 0 0
bbc
With just about the worst excess death rate in the world.
40
30/03/2021 13:45:05 152 141
bbc
Why just talk about Europe. How about South America, or Africa. Why so fixated on Europe?
95
30/03/2021 13:54:31 23 11
bbc
Because they are wealthier, developed countries.
76
30/03/2021 13:52:13 1 5
bbc
Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection.

Did you remember that millions of people have not had their second injection so will not be fully protected for 2 - 3 months.

That "half done" is only 1/8 th - 1/4 th actually done.
96
30/03/2021 13:54:46 4 0
bbc
No, because one dose gives you more than 50% protection.
292
30/03/2021 14:22:44 0 0
bbc
Never get complacent.
64
30/03/2021 13:49:33 52 23
bbc
A question I am still waiting to get a sensible reply for..

If someone has had Covid 19 and recovered and now has antibodies in their system.. why do they need to have the Jab too?
97
30/03/2021 13:54:53 11 5
bbc
Antibodies are the result of recent infection and don't indicate if there is long term immunity. They're the bullets still flying around from the fighting. Better safe than sorry.
180
30/03/2021 14:08:17 24 22
bbc
so catching covid and having antibodies as a result doesn't mean your safe? but having the jab does... what a population of brainwashed sheep the UK has become
24
30/03/2021 13:40:29 19 31
bbc
Open now and stop this nonsense, NOW,
98
30/03/2021 13:54:53 4 1
bbc
Sheesh. We've been in and out of lockdowns for over 12 months now. You don't have the patience to wait another 1 or 2 to avoid cases spiralling like in France, Germany, Italy etc?
99
30/03/2021 13:55:02 53 2
bbc
Don't forget the role of memory B-cells. The transient supply of antibodies in the blood is a very handy marker of gained immunity but they do naturally decline with time as the provision of these antibodies in the longer term is based on your B-cells remembering the recipe so they can quickly make more of them as/when needed.
How many out there have SUPER antibodies against COVID-19 eg John Hollis who do not need a vac? :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050

Why the stifling silence on this issue??? Whilst the government and others boast about the vac targets achieved.
What about the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY VULNERABLE many of whom have been advised not to be vacced by their specialist medical doctors ?
Removed
30/03/2021 17:51:46 0 0
bbc
Petronius Philips...great name.
100
30/03/2021 13:53:27 3 2
bbc
Hopefully all our poor multi millionaire celebrity victims have had the jab so they can go off to Dubai to recover