Wetherspoon plans new pubs and jobs if ‘no further lockdowns’
30/03/2021 | news | business | 669
The chain plans to open 18 new pubs and upgrade others, but only if there are no more Covid restrictions.
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30/03/2021 09:13:31 39 8
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Sums us up as a nation, really. It’s all over, lets go to the pub! How very British.
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:16:26 61 35
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After the way this egotistical man dealt with his staff, I won't be going into any of the Awfulspoons places.
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:15:20 10 16
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Nope, after what you did to your staff at the start of the pandemic Mr Martin, I will never will I set foot in a Awfulspoons again!
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30/03/2021 09:20:22 7 4
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How is that going to impact on staff if people boycott Wetherspoons? That will only guarantee redundancies.
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30/03/2021 09:20:58 2 2
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And what was that exactly? Go on, prove your point.
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30/03/2021 09:13:31 39 8
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Sums us up as a nation, really. It’s all over, lets go to the pub! How very British.
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:16:26 61 35
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After the way this egotistical man dealt with his staff, I won't be going into any of the Awfulspoons places.
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30/03/2021 09:42:06 13 9
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And given his track record when it come to accepting the facts/understanding of situations, he deserves to be boycotted.

An individual that clueless and delusional deserves to go broke.
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30/03/2021 10:44:03 5 10
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Don't think you'll be missed
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30/03/2021 11:43:20 4 8
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He furloughed 41,000 of his staff and suggested they could work elsewhere if they wanted to top up their furlough and their jobs would still be there post lockdown ie he gave them flexibility. Their jobs are still there, so like him or loathe him unlike a lot of other employers he kept his word. Historic sensationalist media articles were proved incorrect.
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30/03/2021 12:10:41 3 1
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I doubt you have ever seen the insides of a wetherspoons so no great loss.
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30/03/2021 12:14:20 4 5
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That will please the 50,000 people he employs. You prefer they are unemployed presumably.
How many people did you ever create a job for and pay wages to?
ZERO I PRESUME?
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30/03/2021 09:16:43 160 28
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The one thing Spoons does do well is giving old lovely looking buildings a new lease of life, better that than being torn down for flats.
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30/03/2021 09:40:44 59 31
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That was their plan in the 90s. Then they ran out and had to convert shopfronts into pseudo-pubs with no atmosphere.
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30/03/2021 09:43:31 8 0
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Agreed, lets hope their plans for 'new pubs' are to repurpose existing buildings
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30/03/2021 10:43:19 8 10
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The reality! Open 8am to 1am none of their pubs have any parking Disgusting toilets hidden in some random area upstairs The result is its easier to go on our car park Adjacent business have their car parks abused by staff & customers too lazy to walk This can lead to repeated rows with drunken people Alternatively they find their cars locked in Broken glass uncollected bottles vomit urine & worse
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30/03/2021 13:48:14 1 5
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What a ridiculously rosy view
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30/03/2021 16:48:22 4 3
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Do I remember an earlier announcement from Wetherspoon's (Tim?) that they were going to take over pubs that had gone bust because of the lockdowns?

"It's an ill-wind, that blows no one any good", doesn't seem to be true.

Tory donators/supporters certainly seem to have done well out of it!
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30/03/2021 09:17:48 10 12
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We could make our decisions about how to get out of covid by listening to our brilliant scientists who have led the world in solving the problem.
Or we could listen to a pub landlord who is primarily interested in making a profit.
Just how hard is this choice?
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PAH
30/03/2021 09:37:08 0 8
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are these the same scientists that predicted 20,000 deaths? We are now 6x more than that...
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30/03/2021 09:19:21 103 27
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Whether we like Wetherspoons or not and whatever our own views on lockdowns etc., we cannot have any business dictating future government policy in this area.
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30/03/2021 09:24:00 63 9
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Business dictates all government policy; it has done in the past, it does at present and will do in the future.
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30/03/2021 10:14:59 6 0
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That what business does to Tory governments and the party. It’s business that funds them.
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30/03/2021 10:50:21 1 1
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But the banks do and have done for years pointless post on your behalf
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30/03/2021 12:11:32 0 4
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Shock, horror, business trying to influence government policy that affects business! What on earth do you expect them to do? Leave it to financially illiterate ministers of both parties?
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:15:20 10 16
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Nope, after what you did to your staff at the start of the pandemic Mr Martin, I will never will I set foot in a Awfulspoons again!
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30/03/2021 09:20:22 7 4
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How is that going to impact on staff if people boycott Wetherspoons? That will only guarantee redundancies.
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30/03/2021 09:25:35 4 3
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No - it will shift job creation from one employer to another, and hopefully one with more respect for staff. Overall by going to a different pub (not Wetherspoons) you'll improve working standards.

I also will never spend a £ in one of his pubs after the way he treated his staff. I'll go to other pubs and create jobs and growth there instead
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30/03/2021 09:30:00 3 2
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Tim Martin has spent the entire pandemic claiming his business is on a knife edge. Now it turns out that not only is the business NOT on a knife edge but he plans to expand as he has enough money available for that. His attempts to bully govt are utterly transparent.
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30/03/2021 09:20:48 8 7
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Good news for once.
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30/03/2021 09:47:11 1 13
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Couldn't come at a better time.
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:15:20 10 16
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Nope, after what you did to your staff at the start of the pandemic Mr Martin, I will never will I set foot in a Awfulspoons again!
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30/03/2021 09:20:58 2 2
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And what was that exactly? Go on, prove your point.
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30/03/2021 09:21:47 19 19
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Here come the haters.

Well done Wetherspoons.
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30/03/2021 09:47:38 0 13
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guilty pleasures
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30/03/2021 09:22:55 7 10
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Excellent news what we need is a Spoons on every corner.

I would like them to reassess their menu though, other than the breakfast , what they sell food is basically "diner" food.

Beer is still top notch though and also the correct price.

The other thing Tim needs to think about is educating some of the younger patrons/familes in pub etiquette...saldy lacking I'm afraid
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30/03/2021 09:40:32 0 1
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Try their Pizzas - excellent
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30/03/2021 09:19:21 103 27
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Whether we like Wetherspoons or not and whatever our own views on lockdowns etc., we cannot have any business dictating future government policy in this area.
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30/03/2021 09:24:00 63 9
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Business dictates all government policy; it has done in the past, it does at present and will do in the future.
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30/03/2021 11:06:12 11 1
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Evidently it didn't this time. The Pandemic and the threat of it, is what dictated the policy on lockdowns. That is what the OP was referring to.

Nobody with a sane mind wants individuals like Tim Martin dictating government policy in any respect, in any capacity. He is dangerous in the negligent sense.
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30/03/2021 09:25:23 9 16
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Wait for it..... the down in the mouth remoaners haven't seen this story yet.

Give it 10 minutes and the crap will come flying in.
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30/03/2021 09:31:05 10 2
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You've set the tone.
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30/03/2021 09:44:59 1 1
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Oh yes we have !! ????
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30/03/2021 16:20:05 0 0
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"Give it 10 minutes and the crap will come flying in."

Like opening time at 'spoons then
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30/03/2021 09:20:22 7 4
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How is that going to impact on staff if people boycott Wetherspoons? That will only guarantee redundancies.
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30/03/2021 09:25:35 4 3
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No - it will shift job creation from one employer to another, and hopefully one with more respect for staff. Overall by going to a different pub (not Wetherspoons) you'll improve working standards.

I also will never spend a £ in one of his pubs after the way he treated his staff. I'll go to other pubs and create jobs and growth there instead
Removed
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30/03/2021 09:26:33 40 25
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Nice staff shame about the boss, i wont be visiting ever again...
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30/03/2021 09:40:23 9 6
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48% are very reluctant, most of them with scores of pub-going years ahead of them.
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30/03/2021 10:53:25 3 1
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I doubt youl be missed
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30/03/2021 09:27:06 131 41
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He accuses SAGE Scientists of " ignoring evidence, which contradicts their 'narrative'".

During the brexit campaign he did just that in his magazine. He pretended to give a balanced view by printing some carefully selected Newspaper articles that opposed brexit but he refused to print all those that gave compelling anti-brexit arguments. Hypocrisy, but thankfully he only runs pubs.
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30/03/2021 09:36:40 104 24
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And he did say that no-one has ever caught coronavirus in one of my pubs while his staff were going down like nine pins. Where's the science in that?
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30/03/2021 10:42:25 18 1
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I do love public health by pub owners, airline operators, tourism bosses.
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30/03/2021 12:08:32 3 6
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"How can I make this story about Brexit?"
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30/03/2021 19:02:50 4 0
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He told all his staff to vote for Brexit; as if it was his right.
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31/03/2021 07:59:09 0 1
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He runs them well

Unlike most politician within most governments

The market weeds out the poor performers

Democracy does not appear to do the same with politicians
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30/03/2021 09:27:55 7 9
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good news from wetherspoons,just wish there was one nearer to me ,the local 3 pub cartel charge over £4.50 for a pint of gut rot,sorry real ale.
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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Bob
30/03/2021 09:36:25 5 7
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It’s because he supported Brexit... as simple as that..so the nasty spiteful Rejoiners hate him
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30/03/2021 09:37:30 8 1
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No. The UK really doesn't. We need less liars and clueless individuals like him thank you very much.

A pure Dunning-Kruger effected person. Pretends to be an expert in everything else while in reality knows very little. Typical pub owner.
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30/03/2021 09:37:36 4 1
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And maybe some principles and morality at the same time?
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30/03/2021 09:38:31 6 1
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Bad marketing. Many of us see him as a self-centred pub bore and bully, who plays to the gallery and throws his toys out the pram when he doesn't get his own way. It's as though he considers himself an expert in everything, while simultaneously knocking holes in any contrary opinion.
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30/03/2021 09:39:48 2 4
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People seem to prefer Chinese investors such as the owners of Greene King (previously owned by slave traders ;-))
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30/03/2021 11:10:26 1 1
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Nice to see so many lefty, remoaners thumbs down by comment. The economy does needs successful entrepreneurs to generate the cash to pay for the public sector.
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30/03/2021 09:20:22 7 4
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How is that going to impact on staff if people boycott Wetherspoons? That will only guarantee redundancies.
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30/03/2021 09:30:00 3 2
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Tim Martin has spent the entire pandemic claiming his business is on a knife edge. Now it turns out that not only is the business NOT on a knife edge but he plans to expand as he has enough money available for that. His attempts to bully govt are utterly transparent.
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30/03/2021 09:30:07 17 2
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it is all up in the air at this time. nobody can predict the future. i do hope that the pubs reopen where possible as like so many others i do miss the occasional pint. i like nothing more than to sit in a pub garden. the only problem is so many people will go and pack places out with the same idea. i will bide my time and wait and see. not the same drinking in. best of luck to you all.
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30/03/2021 09:30:25 6 3
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Can't wait to get to the pub!
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30/03/2021 09:25:23 9 16
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Wait for it..... the down in the mouth remoaners haven't seen this story yet.

Give it 10 minutes and the crap will come flying in.
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30/03/2021 09:31:05 10 2
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You've set the tone.
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JWS
30/03/2021 09:31:31 6 8
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Good man. Hold their feet to the fire. Substantial meals, total nonsense..
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30/03/2021 09:31:59 73 44
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I don’t care if they open one in every street, I will never set foot in one, when we go out for a meal or a drink with friends the last thing we want is Tim Martin leering at us from posters and his nasty divisive politics, leave spoons to the kids the unemployed and quitters.
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30/03/2021 09:55:57 33 16
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You might be tempted when he puts sea snails on the menu to support the fishermen he has put out of work.
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30/03/2021 10:00:47 9 7
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Great, more room for the rest of us!
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30/03/2021 10:37:17 8 7
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Wetherspoons pubs serve a purpose. Personally, I don't use them but I find that they are useful for containing the type of clientele that they attract and stop them from spoiling the decent pubs.
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30/03/2021 10:51:20 11 2
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His politics are not only divisive but flat out wrong! And can consistently be proven to be so.

His delusions about Brexit and Someone who claims to know more about COVID-19 than Virologists means he deserves nothing but contempt for openly and deliberately spreading misinformation.
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30/03/2021 10:52:03 2 5
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Any facts to show with that post my my your a bitter nasty person
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30/03/2021 12:08:20 2 5
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I’m no fan of Tim Martin but “nasty divisive politics”?! You want to take a look at yourself.
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30/03/2021 12:17:08 1 5
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A bigoted comment from a person who voted remain?
The EU apparently don't do devisive politics!!!!!! Of coarse not.
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30/03/2021 09:34:48 29 5
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Not my sort of venue but I believe the beer is cheap and they provide jobs.
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30/03/2021 10:30:49 10 8
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This is just the sort of balanced view that makes my blood boil :)
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SJ
30/03/2021 10:47:48 3 1
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"They provide jobs" is the penultimate refuge we Brits offer to cads. One step short of "he's a patriot".
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30/03/2021 09:34:51 69 18
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Mr Martin appears to believe that it is the Government that is controlling the virus! He is completely delusional, it is the Virus that dictates if we need to go back into another lock down. Shame he can’t guarantee the quality of his pubs beer and food, so how does he expect anyone to guarantee that there will not be another lockdown?
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30/03/2021 10:13:46 37 16
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You cant deny the Goverrnment could’ve handled this a lot better.
I’d give Boris a D-
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30/03/2021 10:28:02 4 2
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No more delusional than Andrew Marr on Sunday asking a government minister to guarantee that we wouldn't go into another lockdown!
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30/03/2021 22:59:29 0 1
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What "virus"? The Media?
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30/03/2021 09:35:03 27 13
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When we enter lockdown 4.0 because people tear the a*+ out of the lifted restrictions Mr Martin can say 'look at what you made me do' when he pulls the imaginary investment. I like a Spoons don't get me wrong, but the political wrangling of their oddball MD shouldn't be headline news. Creating more minimum wage zero hours jobs for students is not going to help the country get back on it's feet.
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30/03/2021 09:50:57 14 4
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But at least they are minimum wage jobs, unlike Deliveroo who take no responsibility for their staff
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30/03/2021 12:23:28 0 3
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Why do we even bother vaccinating everyone when we will inevitably have another wave and lock down again? Because it makes it much less likely, that's why.
Not creating any jobs at all is far worse for people and the country. Students that need jobs are likely to be on low wages where ever they work, better that than no job .
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Bob
30/03/2021 09:35:24 8 17
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Good for Spoons. Rejoiners hoped the lockdown would sink Spoons but... Brexit Britain set to bounce back
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30/03/2021 09:39:15 7 2
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You can now start your list of Brexit successes?
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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Bob
30/03/2021 09:36:25 5 7
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It’s because he supported Brexit... as simple as that..so the nasty spiteful Rejoiners hate him
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30/03/2021 09:42:17 8 1
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No it isn't. It's because he's a gobshte who thinks he has the right to impose his beliefs on the rest of us. The guy who runs Ryanair is the same and he was a remainer.
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30/03/2021 09:27:06 131 41
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He accuses SAGE Scientists of " ignoring evidence, which contradicts their 'narrative'".

During the brexit campaign he did just that in his magazine. He pretended to give a balanced view by printing some carefully selected Newspaper articles that opposed brexit but he refused to print all those that gave compelling anti-brexit arguments. Hypocrisy, but thankfully he only runs pubs.
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30/03/2021 09:36:40 104 24
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And he did say that no-one has ever caught coronavirus in one of my pubs while his staff were going down like nine pins. Where's the science in that?
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30/03/2021 09:49:54 27 7
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Individuals like him who purposely spreads misinformation or ignorance are truly the lowest forms of individuals out there.

Not only that, but as you have shown, puts the lives of his staff and customers at risk because of his lack of basic understanding about COVID-19.

What an abhorrent man.
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30/03/2021 09:17:48 10 12
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We could make our decisions about how to get out of covid by listening to our brilliant scientists who have led the world in solving the problem.
Or we could listen to a pub landlord who is primarily interested in making a profit.
Just how hard is this choice?
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PAH
30/03/2021 09:37:08 0 8
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are these the same scientists that predicted 20,000 deaths? We are now 6x more than that...
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30/03/2021 14:40:53 0 0
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Well done Captain Hindsight , I suppose you had a better idea !
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30/03/2021 16:17:57 0 0
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Name these scientists
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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30/03/2021 09:37:30 8 1
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No. The UK really doesn't. We need less liars and clueless individuals like him thank you very much.

A pure Dunning-Kruger effected person. Pretends to be an expert in everything else while in reality knows very little. Typical pub owner.
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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30/03/2021 09:37:36 4 1
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And maybe some principles and morality at the same time?
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30/03/2021 09:37:39 7 3
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And here was me thinking that there would be no benefits from future or further 'Covid restrictions'. Every cloud...........
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30/03/2021 09:37:56 29 7
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Exactly how can the Govt confirm that Mr Martin?

The Govt has made it clear it doesn't want another lockdown but if COVID-19 managed to evade vaccine immunity through a series of mutations (this is unlikely) there would be another one.

Finally what would you do in that situation? Attempt to sue the Govt? Lockdowns have been necessary in the past. Stop moaning and make your business decision.
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30/03/2021 10:41:24 16 6
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Why even ask for the opinion of Tim Martin in what he would do to handle COVID-19? He isn't qualified. I don't think even to this day understands how the disease even works or how it spreads.

Given his track record when it comes to accepting scientific facts, he should be permanently ignored, because someone as clueless as he is, is a criminally negligent dangerous individual.
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30/03/2021 09:38:28 166 52
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Wetherspoons are going to 'upgrade pubs'?

It's what other pubs call 'shampooing the carpet'.
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30/03/2021 09:50:57 126 41
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My Local Wetherspoons is in a converted mill building and really nice. The people that drink there tend not to spill their drinks all over the carpet.

You can't blame Spoons for the clientele in some areas.
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30/03/2021 10:12:26 30 7
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An anti spooner no doubt? You can find scruffy carpets in any pub chain in any part of UK.
It all depends on the clientele too as pointed out .Perhaps you drink in a crumby part of some crumby town?
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Dee
30/03/2021 10:21:58 15 1
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My local Wetherspoons is having a complete renovation at the moment. It needs it! Not a pub person but it looks smart so far.
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30/03/2021 10:22:53 3 8
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???????? Well said
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30/03/2021 11:18:49 6 5
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That made me smile, exactly what I thought.
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30/03/2021 11:58:01 5 4
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Snob.
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30/03/2021 14:08:22 0 4
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"It's what other pubs call 'shampooing the carpet' - I though that spoons used glue instead to stop their customers getting out.
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30/03/2021 17:33:38 1 0
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Tim Martin is your ultimate 'Marmite' man as are his pubs but I wouldn't mind at all if he took over my local : 250 years old and a big barn of a place and Greene King have run it into the ground. Expensive drinks, truly appalling food and after three lockdowns they still have ripped furniture. Unsurprisingly empty most of the time. At least he would bring life to the place
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30/03/2021 21:13:18 1 0
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Ah, look at all the up ticks from your colleagues in Brighton and North London who would never mix with ordinary plebs.
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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30/03/2021 09:38:31 6 1
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Bad marketing. Many of us see him as a self-centred pub bore and bully, who plays to the gallery and throws his toys out the pram when he doesn't get his own way. It's as though he considers himself an expert in everything, while simultaneously knocking holes in any contrary opinion.
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Bob
30/03/2021 09:35:24 8 17
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Good for Spoons. Rejoiners hoped the lockdown would sink Spoons but... Brexit Britain set to bounce back
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30/03/2021 09:39:15 7 2
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You can now start your list of Brexit successes?
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30/03/2021 09:39:20 74 20
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"he warned the project would not go ahead if there are further lockdowns"

Empty guff from Martin then. No leader can categorically promise that.

This article is not even news.
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30/03/2021 09:48:10 64 16
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He could have said 'no new pubs until we get the duty free imports that I promised my customers during the brexit campaign', but he's given up on that little nugget.
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30/03/2021 17:59:27 0 0
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Best he scrap plans now because the way people behave, especially in pubs, there will be more restrictions.
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30/03/2021 09:39:22 32 11
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Spoons refurbish many old listed buildings nobody else wants and create jobs so good on 'em.
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PAH
30/03/2021 09:39:43 3 1
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We have the first spoons where the hoover has mudguards!
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30/03/2021 09:28:50 12 23
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Why does Mr Martin and Wetherspoons generate such hatred from so many. The UK needs entrepreneurs of mr Martin's flair and ability.
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30/03/2021 09:39:48 2 4
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People seem to prefer Chinese investors such as the owners of Greene King (previously owned by slave traders ;-))
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30/03/2021 09:26:33 40 25
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Nice staff shame about the boss, i wont be visiting ever again...
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30/03/2021 09:40:23 9 6
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48% are very reluctant, most of them with scores of pub-going years ahead of them.
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30/03/2021 10:49:06 6 0
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I'm a remainer but I'll be honest if I'm out with a group of mates where budget is an issue for someone, I won't insist on skipping a 'Spoons for my political ideals.

My mates come first.
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30/03/2021 09:22:55 7 10
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Excellent news what we need is a Spoons on every corner.

I would like them to reassess their menu though, other than the breakfast , what they sell food is basically "diner" food.

Beer is still top notch though and also the correct price.

The other thing Tim needs to think about is educating some of the younger patrons/familes in pub etiquette...saldy lacking I'm afraid
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30/03/2021 09:40:32 0 1
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Try their Pizzas - excellent
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30/03/2021 09:16:43 160 28
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The one thing Spoons does do well is giving old lovely looking buildings a new lease of life, better that than being torn down for flats.
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30/03/2021 09:40:44 59 31
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That was their plan in the 90s. Then they ran out and had to convert shopfronts into pseudo-pubs with no atmosphere.
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30/03/2021 10:26:59 16 5
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They create jobs, and it's not like you are forced to go into them.
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30/03/2021 21:41:04 1 1
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The other things they do well are liver disease, obesity and heart attacks
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30/03/2021 09:40:50 42 24
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Whether it's 'Spoons, Costa, Starbucks or any of the national / international chains, I prefer to to avoid them as much as is possible. If I can find a family owned / run pub / restaurant / café I'll use it every time.

However because of it's owner / founder and his attitudes I absolutely won't step inside one of his homogenised pubs. There are plenty of alternatives.
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30/03/2021 09:47:21 26 29
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your loss our gain , nice to know I won't bump into you result !
Are you a rejoiner loser then hahahaha Removed
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30/03/2021 09:41:44 10 6
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There's no excuse for Brexiteers to say there is no work now. After all, they're always going on about the success of the vaccine rollout, even though it's nothing to do with Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:45:36 6 5
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Strawcat your work is posting on HYS bet you havnt done a stroke for years !
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30/03/2021 09:48:13 2 5
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What on earth are you wittering on about?

This has nothing to do with Brexit, except your hatred for Tim Martin for supporting Brexit.
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30/03/2021 15:38:47 0 0
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yep serving in spoons, picking crops, wiping geriatrics backsides, seize the reins brexiteers and do them jobs jonny foreigner used to do and BACK BRITAIN
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Fay
30/03/2021 09:16:26 61 35
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After the way this egotistical man dealt with his staff, I won't be going into any of the Awfulspoons places.
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30/03/2021 09:42:06 13 9
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And given his track record when it come to accepting the facts/understanding of situations, he deserves to be boycotted.

An individual that clueless and delusional deserves to go broke.
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Bob
30/03/2021 09:36:25 5 7
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It’s because he supported Brexit... as simple as that..so the nasty spiteful Rejoiners hate him
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30/03/2021 09:42:17 8 1
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No it isn't. It's because he's a gobshte who thinks he has the right to impose his beliefs on the rest of us. The guy who runs Ryanair is the same and he was a remainer.
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30/03/2021 09:16:43 160 28
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The one thing Spoons does do well is giving old lovely looking buildings a new lease of life, better that than being torn down for flats.
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30/03/2021 09:43:31 8 0
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Agreed, lets hope their plans for 'new pubs' are to repurpose existing buildings
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30/03/2021 12:29:43 2 0
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Plenty of Banks will be available methinks
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30/03/2021 09:44:11 9 6
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Well done Tim can see see a few remoaners frothing at the mouth with your good news. My boy works part time in one of your establishments & even though furloughed throughout spoons have been in touch every week with an update, puts my business to shame. Now lets hear the usual bland rubbish comments. Bet his glad his moved his supply chain to the rest of the world rather than rely on the EU
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30/03/2021 09:44:22 23 4
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Love or hate Wetherspooons the guy has a business model and it works. The pub trade has endlessly been used as a cash cow by tied breweries and taxed to virtual extinction by moronic governments - if we want pubs to al but disappear just keep on going UK governments
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30/03/2021 09:44:38 6 2
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Isn’t it great to see such high quality work with forward thinking employers in post-Brexit Britain ??
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30/03/2021 09:25:23 9 16
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Wait for it..... the down in the mouth remoaners haven't seen this story yet.

Give it 10 minutes and the crap will come flying in.
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30/03/2021 09:44:59 1 1
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Oh yes we have !! ????
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30/03/2021 09:45:01 55 12
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Schrödinger's Gammon

Martin wanting a categorical assurance from the Government that pubs will not need to be closed in future whilst simultaneously allowing unvaccinated patrons to congregate inside his pubs.
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30/03/2021 18:00:19 4 2
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Spot on!!
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31/03/2021 11:25:20 0 0
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Smacks of blackmail - toys and prams!
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30/03/2021 09:41:44 10 6
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There's no excuse for Brexiteers to say there is no work now. After all, they're always going on about the success of the vaccine rollout, even though it's nothing to do with Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:45:36 6 5
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Strawcat your work is posting on HYS bet you havnt done a stroke for years !
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30/03/2021 13:22:27 0 0
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Good one.
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30/03/2021 09:46:12 9 6
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I am sure I am not the only one, but, due to their stance on Covid, they can expand all they like but they will not be seeing any of my hard earned.
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30/03/2021 09:46:21 5 5
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British culture alive and well (greed and capitalism)
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30/03/2021 09:20:48 8 7
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Good news for once.
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30/03/2021 09:47:11 1 13
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Couldn't come at a better time.
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MVP
30/03/2021 09:47:16 10 10
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I would prefer to pay a few pennies more for my pint and go somewhere that was clean and had full range of drinks than set foot in one of Tim Martin's Wetherspoon slop houses.
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30/03/2021 10:11:15 2 0
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Ah, typical metropolitan elite leftie. That is fine, you will not be missed.
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30/03/2021 09:40:50 42 24
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Whether it's 'Spoons, Costa, Starbucks or any of the national / international chains, I prefer to to avoid them as much as is possible. If I can find a family owned / run pub / restaurant / café I'll use it every time.

However because of it's owner / founder and his attitudes I absolutely won't step inside one of his homogenised pubs. There are plenty of alternatives.
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30/03/2021 09:47:21 26 29
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your loss our gain , nice to know I won't bump into you result !
It is also nice to know that you will stay in there and not plague the rest of society with your presence!

At least we will know where all the village loonies are located.
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30/03/2021 09:21:47 19 19
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Here come the haters.

Well done Wetherspoons.
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30/03/2021 09:47:38 0 13
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guilty pleasures
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30/03/2021 09:39:20 74 20
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"he warned the project would not go ahead if there are further lockdowns"

Empty guff from Martin then. No leader can categorically promise that.

This article is not even news.
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30/03/2021 09:48:10 64 16
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He could have said 'no new pubs until we get the duty free imports that I promised my customers during the brexit campaign', but he's given up on that little nugget.
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30/03/2021 10:42:13 7 15
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What do you mean. Martin changed all his alcohol to either British or Non EU. He was ahead of the game on Brexit. He doesn't have to Import anything from the EU to run his Wetherspoons pubs. And many companys have now changed Importing from EU to other Non EU Suppliers. That's how it works. And Company's who moan about Brexit problems in import & export - have had years to get ready. Stoo moaning.
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30/03/2021 09:41:44 10 6
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There's no excuse for Brexiteers to say there is no work now. After all, they're always going on about the success of the vaccine rollout, even though it's nothing to do with Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:48:13 2 5
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What on earth are you wittering on about?

This has nothing to do with Brexit, except your hatred for Tim Martin for supporting Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:54:46 3 1
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It is an example of showing how delusional Tim Martin is. He has spouted verifiable falsehoods and demonstrably untrue nonsense consistently in the past.

Another example is him whinging about lockdown because of his complete inability to understand the necessity of containing COVID-19. Claiming to know more than the scientists.....

Such an individual deserves to be hated, boycotted and vilified.
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30/03/2021 09:49:39 7 2
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Spoons is OK for a meal and a drink at lunchtime, but it’s not your classic “local” is it?.

Mr Martin will make his decisions long term based on business. It’s just bluster because he’s fed up (like the rest of us)
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30/03/2021 10:10:33 4 0
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They tend to be large town centre pubs, so no, not your small local. But provide a valued and appreciated service.
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30/03/2021 09:36:40 104 24
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And he did say that no-one has ever caught coronavirus in one of my pubs while his staff were going down like nine pins. Where's the science in that?
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30/03/2021 09:49:54 27 7
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Individuals like him who purposely spreads misinformation or ignorance are truly the lowest forms of individuals out there.

Not only that, but as you have shown, puts the lives of his staff and customers at risk because of his lack of basic understanding about COVID-19.

What an abhorrent man.
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30/03/2021 09:50:09 5 7
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Mr Martin and Wetherspoon have not had a very good pandemic.

Mr Martin showed his empathy for his staff by announcing he wouldnt be paying their wages in lockdown and suggesting they go off to get jobs in Tesco's.

Then Wetherspoon continually put selfish interests ahead of the national interest by regularly arguing pubs should be allowed to stay open in the middle of a pandemic.
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30/03/2021 09:55:44 8 2
bbc
He didn't say that at all. His workers were furloughed, so he didn't have to pay their wages. He suggested that while they were furloughed, they could find other work, like Tesco, which they could do and still get their furlough money, so a win-win.

But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant.......
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jk
30/03/2021 09:59:16 1 1
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Martin is only interested in making money and himself.
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30/03/2021 09:50:21 0 0
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Some logic
Some bluster

Should be a full open public enquiry
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30/03/2021 09:38:28 166 52
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Wetherspoons are going to 'upgrade pubs'?

It's what other pubs call 'shampooing the carpet'.
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30/03/2021 09:50:57 126 41
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My Local Wetherspoons is in a converted mill building and really nice. The people that drink there tend not to spill their drinks all over the carpet.

You can't blame Spoons for the clientele in some areas.
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30/03/2021 09:58:17 22 31
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Wetherspoons is literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to pubs...
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30/03/2021 10:40:49 10 4
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You kind of can blame them. The cheap prices attract a certain clientele. But not everywhere, as you say. It was for good reason that they stopped allowing dogs in as well.
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30/03/2021 18:59:11 0 1
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But you blame them for giving Martin a platform to mouth off his political beliefs.
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30/03/2021 09:35:03 27 13
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When we enter lockdown 4.0 because people tear the a*+ out of the lifted restrictions Mr Martin can say 'look at what you made me do' when he pulls the imaginary investment. I like a Spoons don't get me wrong, but the political wrangling of their oddball MD shouldn't be headline news. Creating more minimum wage zero hours jobs for students is not going to help the country get back on it's feet.
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30/03/2021 09:50:57 14 4
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But at least they are minimum wage jobs, unlike Deliveroo who take no responsibility for their staff
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30/03/2021 12:51:05 2 1
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Tim Martin didn't take much responsibility for his staff when he told them all to get jobs at Tesco so he didn't have to pay them anything. The man's an opinionated, self-aggrandising leech. And I used to work for him!
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30/03/2021 09:52:29 13 5
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20,000 new jobs is somewhat optimistic, but still far less than the number of jobs lost from the Brexit that Martin helped create.

Still, the redundant fishermen can take a huge pay cut and get work on Martin's poverty wage scheme. Certainly not a step forward for anyone except Martin himself.
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30/03/2021 12:27:42 1 3
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2000 new jobs, not 20,000. You have mis-read.
Still remoaning even though it is very clear the EU hate us and wish to do
us down at every opportunity
That surely has to be the definition of deluded and self hating.
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30/03/2021 09:53:29 12 5
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Very kind of the BBC to run a HYS on Tim Martin, as Rejoiners are running out of things to froth over.

Only bitter, narrow-minded people would sneer at the planned creation of 20,000 jobs over the next 10 years because they disagree with the views of the owner on Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:54:45 3 5
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Yawn
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30/03/2021 09:59:32 2 3
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Most at minimum wage to make maximum profit for Martin.
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30/03/2021 10:15:04 2 0
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You're the one who mentioned Brexit my dear.
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30/03/2021 14:21:15 1 0
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Given his track record when it comes to treating his staff. It seems that they would be better off, never setting foot into Tim's establishments and doing something else far more worthwhile.

It isn't just about Brexit. His business practices are abhorrent, and is a borderline COVID-19 denier.

Not interested in helping someone like that Monopolize the Pub industry thank you very much.
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30/03/2021 09:53:52 50 23
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Knock Tim Martin all you like (& many will)... but he creates British jobs....

And pays all taxes here....

Unlike so many other High Street establishments.....
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30/03/2021 10:08:21 33 14
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Yeah, unlike remoaner Branson on his tax exile private island!
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SJ
30/03/2021 10:45:58 13 6
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He shifts jobs away from other, better pubs. He destroys as much as he creates.
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30/03/2021 10:54:12 8 5
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But they are not very productive jobs are they? Given his track record when it comes to treating his staff. It seems that they would be better off never setting foot into his establishments and doing something else far more worthwhile.
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30/03/2021 12:18:44 3 2
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And has remainer Steve Coogan left yet like like he promised us?
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30/03/2021 09:53:29 12 5
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Very kind of the BBC to run a HYS on Tim Martin, as Rejoiners are running out of things to froth over.

Only bitter, narrow-minded people would sneer at the planned creation of 20,000 jobs over the next 10 years because they disagree with the views of the owner on Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:54:45 3 5
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Yawn
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30/03/2021 09:48:13 2 5
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What on earth are you wittering on about?

This has nothing to do with Brexit, except your hatred for Tim Martin for supporting Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:54:46 3 1
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It is an example of showing how delusional Tim Martin is. He has spouted verifiable falsehoods and demonstrably untrue nonsense consistently in the past.

Another example is him whinging about lockdown because of his complete inability to understand the necessity of containing COVID-19. Claiming to know more than the scientists.....

Such an individual deserves to be hated, boycotted and vilified.
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MVP
30/03/2021 09:55:28 5 7
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Many will remember the disgraceful way that Wetherspoon chief pub landlord Tim Martin treated its staff last year and told them to "get a job at Tesco" and will vote with their feet
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30/03/2021 09:59:20 6 1
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Another comment in denial of the facts.

Wetherspoon's staff, like many others in the pub sector, were furloughed. He suggested, quite rightly, that they could work in Tesco and still get their furlough pay, and Tesco needed more staff.

This was twisted by the anti-Brexit sections of the media, and sucked up by the likes of you.
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30/03/2021 09:50:09 5 7
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Mr Martin and Wetherspoon have not had a very good pandemic.

Mr Martin showed his empathy for his staff by announcing he wouldnt be paying their wages in lockdown and suggesting they go off to get jobs in Tesco's.

Then Wetherspoon continually put selfish interests ahead of the national interest by regularly arguing pubs should be allowed to stay open in the middle of a pandemic.
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30/03/2021 09:55:44 8 2
bbc
He didn't say that at all. His workers were furloughed, so he didn't have to pay their wages. He suggested that while they were furloughed, they could find other work, like Tesco, which they could do and still get their furlough money, so a win-win.

But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant.......
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30/03/2021 09:31:59 73 44
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I don’t care if they open one in every street, I will never set foot in one, when we go out for a meal or a drink with friends the last thing we want is Tim Martin leering at us from posters and his nasty divisive politics, leave spoons to the kids the unemployed and quitters.
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30/03/2021 09:55:57 33 16
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You might be tempted when he puts sea snails on the menu to support the fishermen he has put out of work.
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30/03/2021 10:03:08 15 10
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From my understanding a lot of spoons establishments are dirty and serve chips with everything, add the owners nasty political views and disgraceful treatment of staff during the pandemic I can’t see anything tempting me into one of his premises.
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30/03/2021 09:29:43 6 8
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Shame on you Wetherspoons. Nothing less than blackmail. If a lockdown is needed then so be it. All decent citizens should boycott this outfit.
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30/03/2021 09:56:06 5 4
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Tim Martin is an expert in exploitation & will divide opinion in order to benefit from it. He currently supports Boris but that will change when a new administration is in power.
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30/03/2021 09:57:37 3 3
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Tim Martin uses all the practices that the EU wished to legislate for such as the Working Time Directive, Zero-hours contracts, Basic low minimum wage & Health & Safety adherence. (Ironically a lot of these were initiated by the UK.) I do not begrudge Mr Martin his success but at what expense? I question his social conscience & attitude to those that have not been so lucky as himself.
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30/03/2021 10:00:59 2 1
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So you want to put all of his thousands of employees on the done then????
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30/03/2021 09:58:16 4 4
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The remoaner snowflakes will be so happy with this news..a new ‘Spoons’ coming to your area soon...you’ll be able to go and drown your sorrows ??
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30/03/2021 10:06:32 4 0
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I hope he buys their favourite pubs, particularly where there isn't an alternative. :-)
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30/03/2021 09:50:57 126 41
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My Local Wetherspoons is in a converted mill building and really nice. The people that drink there tend not to spill their drinks all over the carpet.

You can't blame Spoons for the clientele in some areas.
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30/03/2021 09:58:17 22 31
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Wetherspoons is literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to pubs...
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30/03/2021 09:58:51 5 4
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Didn't Dim Tim the Spoons boss tell his staff to get jobs at Tesco? ??
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30/03/2021 10:02:43 3 2
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He started out with nothing and has created a huge business in no time at all...

Dim? I dont think so.
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30/03/2021 10:02:49 3 0
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Tesco would be a safer place to work. No Gammons drinking too much and getting wound up...??
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30/03/2021 10:06:02 1 1
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He advised them that during the lockdown they might be better off looking for other work, because of pandemic policy his pubs had to close. Nothing wrong with that, sound advice, they would be better off than on furlough. And he also said their jobs would be open when normality returned. So a caring and considerate employer.
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30/03/2021 09:50:09 5 7
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Mr Martin and Wetherspoon have not had a very good pandemic.

Mr Martin showed his empathy for his staff by announcing he wouldnt be paying their wages in lockdown and suggesting they go off to get jobs in Tesco's.

Then Wetherspoon continually put selfish interests ahead of the national interest by regularly arguing pubs should be allowed to stay open in the middle of a pandemic.
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jk
30/03/2021 09:59:16 1 1
bbc
Martin is only interested in making money and himself.
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MVP
30/03/2021 09:55:28 5 7
bbc
Many will remember the disgraceful way that Wetherspoon chief pub landlord Tim Martin treated its staff last year and told them to "get a job at Tesco" and will vote with their feet
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30/03/2021 09:59:20 6 1
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Another comment in denial of the facts.

Wetherspoon's staff, like many others in the pub sector, were furloughed. He suggested, quite rightly, that they could work in Tesco and still get their furlough pay, and Tesco needed more staff.

This was twisted by the anti-Brexit sections of the media, and sucked up by the likes of you.
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30/03/2021 10:07:56 3 0
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Lefties don't seem to have a good grasp of reality. Mr Martin did indeed give his staff sensible and considered advice.
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30/03/2021 09:59:29 6 6
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Remoaners just don't like aspiration.... They dislike Tim, not because of his business practices but simply because he supports leave, which means he supports the UK.
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30/03/2021 10:04:19 4 1
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No, sorry, he only support himself. F the rest is his motto, a bit like Boris and business.
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30/03/2021 09:53:29 12 5
bbc
Very kind of the BBC to run a HYS on Tim Martin, as Rejoiners are running out of things to froth over.

Only bitter, narrow-minded people would sneer at the planned creation of 20,000 jobs over the next 10 years because they disagree with the views of the owner on Brexit.
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30/03/2021 09:59:32 2 3
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Most at minimum wage to make maximum profit for Martin.
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30/03/2021 10:00:35 61 17
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My favourite pub is a Wetherspoons. No-one is more surprised than me. Good products well priced, friendly staff and table service pre-Covid in a lovely restored building I remember from my childhood. It's such a shame Tim Martin is such a Brexit supporting berk.
Get over it sad boy Removed
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30/03/2021 18:11:23 0 0
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Who your subsidising, smart move.
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30/03/2021 09:31:59 73 44
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I don’t care if they open one in every street, I will never set foot in one, when we go out for a meal or a drink with friends the last thing we want is Tim Martin leering at us from posters and his nasty divisive politics, leave spoons to the kids the unemployed and quitters.
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30/03/2021 10:00:47 9 7
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Great, more room for the rest of us!
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30/03/2021 09:57:37 3 3
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Tim Martin uses all the practices that the EU wished to legislate for such as the Working Time Directive, Zero-hours contracts, Basic low minimum wage & Health & Safety adherence. (Ironically a lot of these were initiated by the UK.) I do not begrudge Mr Martin his success but at what expense? I question his social conscience & attitude to those that have not been so lucky as himself.
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30/03/2021 10:00:59 2 1
bbc
So you want to put all of his thousands of employees on the done then????
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30/03/2021 10:00:59 5 4
bbc
I went into Weatherspoons a few times before lockdown. But after this nasty piece of works comments at the beginning of lockdown and now I wont be going back.
Spend your free time in an English class instead :-) Removed
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30/03/2021 10:02:08 5 3
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I think that picture of the staff with a face-mask predates the pandemic!

Its a necessity in all Wetherspoons.
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30/03/2021 09:58:51 5 4
bbc
Didn't Dim Tim the Spoons boss tell his staff to get jobs at Tesco? ??
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30/03/2021 10:02:43 3 2
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He started out with nothing and has created a huge business in no time at all...

Dim? I dont think so.
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30/03/2021 09:58:51 5 4
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Didn't Dim Tim the Spoons boss tell his staff to get jobs at Tesco? ??
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30/03/2021 10:02:49 3 0
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Tesco would be a safer place to work. No Gammons drinking too much and getting wound up...??
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30/03/2021 10:03:03 2 1
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If conditional on never closing pubs again regardless of the scientific evidence, then it will never happen.
Mr Martin is of course a keen supporter of him making money so will not allow anything to stand in the way of profits.
He can't be serious, he's just lobbying to keep pubs open. Brexit was fine because we brew beer here and can buy wines outside the EU. Nothing else mattered.
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30/03/2021 09:55:57 33 16
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You might be tempted when he puts sea snails on the menu to support the fishermen he has put out of work.
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30/03/2021 10:03:08 15 10
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From my understanding a lot of spoons establishments are dirty and serve chips with everything, add the owners nasty political views and disgraceful treatment of staff during the pandemic I can’t see anything tempting me into one of his premises.
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30/03/2021 10:36:27 10 7
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Then try visiting one and see how wrong you are
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30/03/2021 10:32:41 4 2
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'From your understanding' - does that mean you have never been to one? Try one, you may be pleasantly surprised! And, by the way, they don't serve chips with everthing and are not dirty.
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30/03/2021 10:00:35 61 17
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My favourite pub is a Wetherspoons. No-one is more surprised than me. Good products well priced, friendly staff and table service pre-Covid in a lovely restored building I remember from my childhood. It's such a shame Tim Martin is such a Brexit supporting berk.
Get over it sad boy Removed
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30/03/2021 11:58:24 6 2
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like you lot got over the referendum before the Brexit one? You know as well as everyone else, there will be another referendum in 20 years and we'll be joining afterwards... of course you'll be 90 then.
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30/03/2021 09:59:29 6 6
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Remoaners just don't like aspiration.... They dislike Tim, not because of his business practices but simply because he supports leave, which means he supports the UK.
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30/03/2021 10:04:19 4 1
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No, sorry, he only support himself. F the rest is his motto, a bit like Boris and business.