Biden administration threatens tariffs on UK goods in 'tech tax' row
29/03/2021 | news | business | 3,837
Ceramics, make-up and furniture could be hit amid a row over a new UK tax on tech firms.
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29/03/2021 13:36:09 24 31
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Go do one Biden
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29/03/2021 13:38:43 27 9
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Thank you for such a perceptive comment that makes things clearer for everyone.
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29/03/2021 13:39:53 6 2
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I think that's what he's telling the "busted flush", the UK.
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29/03/2021 13:43:34 6 4
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IF you had read the above story you might have noticed "Washington is pressing ahead with the action, initiated under President Trump, and has scheduled hearings on the list."
But hey ho once a trumpet always a trumpet.
29/03/2021 15:59:41 1 0
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You didn't read the info here did you?

This was set up in the Trump administration, not Biden's.
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29/03/2021 13:36:31 52 28
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And it was all going to be so easy.
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29/03/2021 13:41:16 15 30
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Rather foolish to claim anyone said it would be 'easy'.
29/03/2021 15:57:02 1 0
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It is for those who got what they wanted from Brexit. Biggest con deal since WW1. Protecting the ill gotten goods of the rich taken without the poiitically illiterate serfs even realising what was going on. Believing the level up dogma. It was the Tories who gave us 2 Irelands. A catholic one and a protestant one. Sheer stupidity.
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29/03/2021 13:37:44 1279 55
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As usual, the special relationship is a one way road.
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29/03/2021 13:43:50 860 678
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They told us that there would be no special treatment for the UK once we left the EU and the right wing media gave off saying that Obama should keep quiet and not try to influence the vote...

Well those chickens have now come home to roost
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29/03/2021 13:45:22 157 164
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don't worry about Joe Bidens threat.
he will forget about it in a couple of hours...
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29/03/2021 13:48:53 175 15
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The only country with the special relationship is Ireland.
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29/03/2021 13:53:33 115 3
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It is "so" special that apparently one part doesn't realise there is even a relationship.
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29/03/2021 13:54:11 53 8
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This is old fashioned colonialism. We did it to the Indians to stop them spinning cotton in Victoria’s days.
It shows who really runs the USA and thus the World. The tech giant billionaires. Tax them at your peril.
It is a pity the UK is too weak and craven to tell Uncle Sam where to get off, as the EU did. Lord help us if we do any trade deals with them.
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29/03/2021 13:56:03 27 7
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A strange conclusion, given the story describes the exact opposite. We tax their technology services, they tax our exports in return. And it was very naïve to expect any other outcome.
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29/03/2021 14:00:48 30 7
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May I suggest, this news and the amount given by tech companies to fund the Biden campaign are not mutually exclusive.
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29/03/2021 14:08:42 34 2
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We have to accept 160 new American nukes we will never fire and they can't accept a tax on tech companies.

USA is not our friend.
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29/03/2021 14:12:46 2 1
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That's what is special about an abusive relationship

One side sees no wrong one needs to leave
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:43:11 175 21
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Countries like Luxembourg and Ireland (and maybe others I'm not aware of) benefit hugely from the way that tech giants dodge tax. I wouldn't imagine the EU would be wholely united on this.
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29/03/2021 13:43:24 29 33
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Remoners are getting rather boring now. Read the article " could" does not mean they will. As for sovereignty did France a member of the EU share their windfall from Facebook? No.
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29/03/2021 13:44:32 24 11
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I take it you didn't read the article or any background to digital services tax? For example, the US threatened tariffs that would specifically target the French economy and businesses when they suggested something similar. You of course are aware than France is in the EU yet the EU did nothing to weigh in on France's side, and the US took no note of the EU in targeting one of their members.
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29/03/2021 13:45:55 15 15
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Size doesn't matter, the US has just as much to lose as the UK going down the tariffs route.
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29/03/2021 13:46:52 15 15
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This kind of 'awkward' moment is one of the many international obligations and treaties that was ignored in favour of face book posts and flags with lions with the union jack on..

It really is not as simple as folding your arms, and turning your back on the world in a huff, which is what it really was. No utopia either in or out of a trading block, but sometimes you get more of a say.
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29/03/2021 13:48:30 15 21
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what you lose on one hand you gain on the other, like the vaccine roll out in the UK compared to the s---l---o---w EU dinosaur that can barely move from its own weight.
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29/03/2021 13:49:40 18 14
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Wasn't it the remainers not wanting a trade deal with the USA due to chicken and NHS?
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29/03/2021 13:57:25 6 8
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Yes but which large union...after all the EU are even worse off in this debacle.
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Ed
29/03/2021 14:00:19 15 3
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Didn't help Spain and Austria did it?
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29/03/2021 14:26:59 7 6
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The EU ARE the ones who allowed the tax dodging in the first place. Ireland, Luxemboug - how much tax did they allow to be dodged ! While we were in the EU we couldn't stop them. Now we can !
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29/03/2021 14:27:04 9 2
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the EU isnt even a union they call themselves it then act as individuals just look at how they treat each other over vaccines
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29/03/2021 14:45:55 4 4
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We will eventually negotiate a trade deal with the US. We already have 62 other new trade deals that we could not have negotiated whilst in the EU.
That's sovereignty for you.
29/03/2021 14:48:17 3 1
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Yawn. Play another tune.
29/03/2021 16:20:53 0 0
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I'd rather have vaccines tbh.
29/03/2021 17:43:33 0 0
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Sovereignty is working very well regarding vaccinations. ;-)
29/03/2021 18:23:07 0 0
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Unions are outdated. They served their purposes at the time.
Bit like the USSR and the EU. Perhaps, you have not got sufficient power to form a brain.
29/03/2021 19:42:59 0 0
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What? You mean like the Warsaw Pact?
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29/03/2021 13:38:05 281 11
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Ah yes our friends the good old US of A!!
Joe Biden up for taxing the UK?
He can't even get up a set of stairs....
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29/03/2021 14:02:11 7 14
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They are responding to a threat that we initiated.
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29/03/2021 14:24:06 9 0
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Friends pfft we’re a Customer just like anyone else so are they TAX them let them TAX us, but do not allow them to go untaxed whilst they try to gain an advantage by putting tariffs on our steel. It’s a two way street we’ll protect our interests and they’ll protect theirs. special relationship I don’t even like them.
29/03/2021 15:02:48 0 0
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That's why they had the Boston Tea Party. No taxation without representation.
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29/03/2021 15:27:23 1 0
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With friends like the U.S.

WHO needs enemies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
30/03/2021 04:10:25 0 0
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There is an old saying, “You know what the ‘A’ stands for,” my father joked, “I bet it’s not awesome.”
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Ray
29/03/2021 13:38:06 142 14
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Is it 1929 all over again ? Late 1920/21 saw the end of spanish flu, the decade was known as the 'roaring twenties' as stock markets rose. Then at the end of the decade, depression, wall street crash and protectionism. Is history really repeating ?
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29/03/2021 13:43:03 154 7
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Yes not because it is repeating, but because we have done nothing with decades of wealth other than get lazy, loot the nation, and now are being in panic mode
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29/03/2021 13:49:12 6 0
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In more ways than you can imagine! Again we have a country which was once world power creeping towards a Dictatorship and threatening war.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1415833/china-warning-uk-nuclear-weapons-trident-boris-johnson-russia-hong-kong-taiwan-spt
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29/03/2021 13:52:24 11 1
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The Americans have always been massive protectionists. Even during the height of the Reagan area, they moved to tariffs stop their market being flooded by cheap Japanese electronic components.
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29/03/2021 14:05:32 5 0
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You are absolutely correct!
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29/03/2021 14:17:36 11 0
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Stock markets in the UK haven't performed well at all. In the past 10 years UK stockmarket is up a pitiful 12%. US in the same period is 167%.
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29/03/2021 14:28:47 3 1
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Next I can definitely see a man brainwashing a country and trying to create a world war just like Hitler.
29/03/2021 15:18:18 0 0
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You forgot about the amount of money being printed, and a new Bretton Woods moment is coming, according the IMF and WEF - we should just ensure we vote against the dollar as the world's reserve currency if that happens, then watch Biden's printing presses grind to a halt.
29/03/2021 15:36:07 0 0
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It is - And inter-continental war comes next. Best we stock up on those nukes and not upset the Americans!
29/03/2021 16:00:23 1 0
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No, there is no physical mechanism for time to repeat, time loops only exist on star trek. Covid not equal Spanish flu, just a lot of coincidence and hand waving

Stock markets are designed to rise otherwise they would be pointless
29/03/2021 17:51:05 0 0
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It will because the same drivers are around.
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29/03/2021 13:38:12 42 18
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Oh dear someone woke up sleepy Joe so he can attack a reasonable tax on tech. Probably the tech companies have complained they are only making 10's of billions of $ after paying their fair share of taxable revenue. Someone put him back in his box until 2024 when the next elections are.
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29/03/2021 13:49:21 16 5
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Trump was literally going to do the same thing.
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29/03/2021 13:51:14 5 2
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This action was started by Trump; Biden's merely declined to undo it. Did you even read the article?
29/03/2021 14:56:02 2 5
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I think if they put him in a box between now and 2024 it will be coffin shaped....
29/03/2021 17:46:08 0 0
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A reasonable tax on tech? So if the US or any other country had done that to British companies you'd agree with it? Would it be OK if Saudi Arabia tax us on the profits we make selling them arms?

And what on earth does "paying their fair share of taxable revenue" mean?
29/03/2021 19:00:28 0 0
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Your jealousy over the preeminence of USA technology and AI companies blinds you to reality. There was a time we ruled the world. No longer. Wars are expensive and best avoided for as long as is reasonably possible. They should be a last resort.
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29/03/2021 13:38:24 8 0
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Well, the US could just impose the same tax on non US companies operating in the USA. No one would complain then. Oh wait....
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29/03/2021 13:38:38 379 26
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It seems that 2% is not enough... lets go for 4% then.
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29/03/2021 14:06:39 99 167
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Then they'll just up their tariffs.

You don't seem to realise the problem.
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29/03/2021 14:17:27 17 18
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"It seems that 2% is not enough... lets go for 4% then."

Bloodthirsty Angry Brexit Grandads talk utter nonsense about trade part 999994

WE pay tarriffs not the companies that sell the products.

You clapped out clowns struggle with every single last part of this
29/03/2021 18:10:37 1 1
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And they take tax increase out of your pocket. Always thus.
29/03/2021 19:48:47 1 0
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Amazon and Google just passed on the 2% charge to the UK small businesses that use their platforms. So in reality its not hitting the big tech companies bottom lines as its those UK small businesses who are effectively paying these taxes for them when it should only apply to business with UK turnover over £25M. It was another badly thought out law that needs rethinking before they just up it to 4%
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29/03/2021 13:38:40 170 55
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So much for the Special Relationship and Johnson’s Trade Deal
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There is no such things as the special relationship, its little more than figment of some Tories and their right wing press supporters imagination.
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29/03/2021 14:08:44 8 9
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Pray tell; what's has this got to do with Brexit? Absoluely zero
29/03/2021 18:26:57 0 2
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It is the government in charge and NOT Johnson. He is the leader of the tories.
Do not be personal about politics.
29/03/2021 21:25:02 1 0
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four years of Trump, what treaty did he give the UK? Which president imposed these duties. Let me think. Trump. Brexiteers lied to us
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29/03/2021 13:36:09 24 31
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Go do one Biden
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29/03/2021 13:38:43 27 9
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Thank you for such a perceptive comment that makes things clearer for everyone.
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Tom
29/03/2021 13:38:49 25 23
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Sleepy Joe doesn't have a clue
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29/03/2021 13:42:23 23 5
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But - Sleepy Joe has the clout - as the UK will soon find out in the upcoming trade deal negotiations. I think UK negotiators will start to miss Barnier...
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29/03/2021 13:48:42 4 0
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This was Dumb Donald’s play - America first.

I bet you liked it much more when he did the same thing.
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29/03/2021 13:39:14 23 35
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Falling out with the EU, USA and China over trade etc.

Those post-Brexit sunlit uplands are as far away as ever.
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29/03/2021 13:43:18 7 11
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You can tie it to Brexit if you want but it's not really about that is it?
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29/03/2021 13:39:14 119 11
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Just shows the limitations of national governments to raise tax rates on large businesses.
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And also shows how a large, unified collection of countries like the EU can.
29/03/2021 15:24:33 5 2
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No, it shows the limitations of national goverments to tax businesses operating from other countries.
29/03/2021 17:57:05 1 1
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No, there is no limitation. We have to decide what we want to do. Kowtow like a bunch of slaves or stand up and be counted. I am not a slave. The song says Britons never never never will be slaves. So stand up. Announce that whatever the highest tariff imposed on any British goods by the USA is then we will impose double it on ALL their goods and 100% tax on any US company doing business here.
29/03/2021 17:57:55 2 0
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And cancel theF35, its crap anyway, along with all other US military contracts, build our own stuff even if that means going and building another batch of Harriers - at least they work in any weather.
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29/03/2021 13:39:16 26 40
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The Tories have fallen out with Europe and now the US. What a pathetic mess they are making of our new found "independence".
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29/03/2021 13:48:12 5 0
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Its more Biden paying back the lobbying support he gained throughout the elections, USA work on a donations for policies and political individuals can benefit, its legal and this shows it in motion.
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29/03/2021 13:58:30 0 1
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The Tories haven't fallen out with anyone Hadleigh. The Government is quite reasonably insisting on a level playing field and it should stand firm on that. It would be very unwise of the US to start a tariff war because it will not end well. How would the US react if the boot was on the other foot, I wonder?
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29/03/2021 13:39:22 23 17
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We don't take kindly to threats, Mr President!
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29/03/2021 14:13:57 8 1
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well the last democrat prez said back of the line.with a smirking cameron behind him.that worked well in the referendum.didnt it boys.
29/03/2021 15:46:26 0 0
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So said the Romans to the Greeks; the Visigoths to the Roman Empire; the USA to the British in 1776. Good national resources and a strong military are the prerequisites to real power; hard or soft.
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29/03/2021 13:39:39 356 31
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Call their bluff, double the digital services tax, or just let them keep shifting all the profit out of this company whilst our legimate tax paying companies go to the wall.
Either way, the outcome will be the same, except doubling the tax the US will suffer also, and maybe see sense and pay their way.
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29/03/2021 13:41:47 165 17
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Good idea, I'm up for it.
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Ben
29/03/2021 13:42:50 23 0
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Unlikely. It's an unequal partnership, as the UK only represents one market these giants operate in. If all the countries cooperated and introduced taxes on the digital services, we'd be getting somewhere.
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29/03/2021 13:45:06 8 4
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Thought we wanted a massive trade desk with them?

Not sure this is the right way to go.
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29/03/2021 14:06:10 12 0
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And you don't think they would just double import duties on our exports?

We really aren't big enough to bully a country the size of the USA.
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29/03/2021 14:12:41 9 6
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"Call their bluff, double the digital services tax, or just let them keep shifting all the profit out of this company whilst our legimate tax paying companies go to the wall."

After all they need us more than we need them... errr... hows that working out as an approach to the world, Grandad?
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29/03/2021 14:16:28 6 0
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Yes, double the tax. It may also lead to these companies leaving the UK. Leading to ..... Eventually the tech, social and media businesses will strangle us. You will not own anything, it will soon be available only on line. Forget access to an old film either because it is not offered any more or is so expensive you cant afford it. DVDs and CDs will be a thing of the past.
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29/03/2021 14:31:06 6 2
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There is another option shut Google and Co down replace with UK version. Tech and knowledge has moved on decade since Internet giants created.
Additionally all money and data sets that Google / Facebook etc are collecting just enables them to monopolise tech, profits, online space, rules, AI more and more each year.
Even taxation won't harm their monolopy.
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29/03/2021 14:32:08 6 0
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What about those UK companies that rely heavily on US sales?

What about the fantastic trade deal we're supposed to do with the US?

We need the support of the EU on a DST. Otherwise, if it's just us, the US will walk all over us.
29/03/2021 15:32:45 0 0
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So First it was the EU, China are not best pleased with Bojo and then to really throw a spanner in the works upsets the USA ..Tail thinking it can wag the dog again??
29/03/2021 16:28:07 3 1
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First of all look at the offshore tax havens and reign them in, and all these shell companies too

Put an embargo on the Isle of Man, and the Channels Islands

Hang on, that would affect our Tory Masters too much, so do nothing and just suck it up

The Augean stables need to be cleansed
29/03/2021 16:32:10 0 0
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How about we try investing in our own home-grown technology rather than trying to tax somebody else's? Chances are you have a microprocessor in your mobile phone that was designed in Cambridge. Does the UK see any revenue as a result? Nope - we sold it all off.
29/03/2021 18:43:06 0 0
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Last person who threatened to tax them/break them up/regulate them was erased from Digital Existence.

No politician would dare risk going challenging them. Pretty easy to come up with justification to do erase a person Thanos-style with the type of mental gymnastics and smearing the Silicon Valley/Bay Area thugs get up to.
29/03/2021 19:24:29 0 0
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Man does not understand that there is such a thing as power in relationships.
30/03/2021 05:06:53 0 0
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I think that America has the Whip Hand there. Is it not what we need to survive? This new relationship in Trade that we left the EU for. When will we get the benefits?
30/03/2021 07:09:22 0 0
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And when they shift the companies out of main land Britain to the EU what will happen then ?No one needs the UK these days as only they feel like they are in the big boy league.
30/03/2021 09:26:26 0 0
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If Google and Amazon cloud services shut down on the UK, UK businesses would be totally *. You are not understanding the very large part they play in our lives
And of course the old dears would have nowhere to shop that offers 'next day delivery'.
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29/03/2021 13:39:50 185 4
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In summary, we want to tax the huge sums of money being made for nothing (or near enough nothing, IP only and services very much targeted here where all profits are off-shored) and in return they want to tax smaller sums of money being made on actual products.

Seems a bit one-sided, doesn't it?
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29/03/2021 14:20:52 26 16
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If you live here but your business is based overseas and you bring any profits back home is that "off shoring"? That's the question of globalisation. Who's shore are you looking at?
29/03/2021 15:19:02 1 2
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What we want to tax is profit made and declared in another country. If another country wanted to tax a British export company on profits made here there would be uproar.
29/03/2021 18:46:48 1 0
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Ah the brave new world of globalisation. The world of open borders and free movement of goods, capital etc.

Remember when the Left were opposed to globalisation? Now they are it's greatest advocate. The Tories certainly aren't going to challenge it so we really are screwed.

In the world of global markets, where the "nation state" is evil (according to the Left) you have no right to that revenue.
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29/03/2021 13:39:58 217 5
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Tech firms must be taxed fairly to ensure fairer competition and to gain much needed tax revenue.

The US might claim to be looking out for its interests, as it’s done since this debate/row begun, but given the importance of gaining tax revenue, especially now, unless a fair agreement for such a tax is eventually reached, they’re not currently looking out for its citizens’ interests.
29/03/2021 17:24:48 107 103
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A trade war with the USA and the EU?

Way to go Boris!

You don't give a stuff what a mess you leave behind, do you!
29/03/2021 18:13:38 3 4
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Increased revenue for Govt. Price hike for public to sustain profits. Common sense
30/03/2021 08:49:04 0 0
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The UK should join a powerful and wealthy bloc to have leverage on USA tax liabilities
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29/03/2021 13:40:40 7 4
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No change Trump or Biden then!
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i thought when Biden was elected and Trump kicked out the USA would become all lovely and less authoritarian?
be careful what you wish for, woke generation.
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29/03/2021 13:42:58 41 27
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I wish people would stop throwing the insult 'woke' at others. It assumes yje person wasn't awake in the first place.
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29/03/2021 13:47:18 10 4
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I thought Biden was a push over and america last?

Becasreful what you wish for vice signaller
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29/03/2021 13:52:01 16 0
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This tariff probably sounds like great news to an American, wanting to protect "US business interests" and all. But seeing as how you asked, the "woke generation" see Biden as little more than the lesser of two evils.
29/03/2021 15:16:31 5 0
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Biden is a catholic of Polish and Irish ancestry. I'm sure he knows the history of catholicism in the UK. He is only the 2nd catholic to be elected President.
29/03/2021 17:01:13 3 1
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Biden was always clear on being upfront unlike Dodgy Don! So just wake up!
29/03/2021 18:19:05 0 0
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Unfortunately for tories Biden is no Trump
29/03/2021 20:58:55 0 0
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Biden sent one right wing fool his P45 and is now handing the other his arse on a plate. What's not to like for the "woke" generation?!
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29/03/2021 13:41:05 4 5
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Harry Styles Endorses Joe Biden:

'If I Could Vote in America, I’d Vote With Kindness'

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"Come on, man" ?????

??
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29/03/2021 13:36:31 52 28
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And it was all going to be so easy.
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Rather foolish to claim anyone said it would be 'easy'.
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"Sunlit uplands"
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Tim
29/03/2021 13:48:55 11 0
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Your memory is very short. There were all sorts of claims about how easy it would be outside the EU. Look it up.
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29/03/2021 14:00:22 11 0
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I was a easy as an oven ready meal, if I remeber correctly
Just pop it in and so on
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29/03/2021 14:13:46 12 0
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"Easiest deal in history" was the claim
29/03/2021 15:12:15 4 0
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Liam Fox was one of those who claimed it would be easy.
29/03/2021 16:01:13 2 0
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But it was said it would be easy...
29/03/2021 17:24:05 1 0
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"Easiest trade deal ever" was the term used for the EU trade deal.

You know, the one that has signed the death warrant for the fishing industry and many export businesses.
But on the outbreak of WW1 they did. Over by Xmas they said. They equated war with the Huns like war with the Dervishes or the South African Boers Removed
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Except Boris did just that!
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If only there were a President in the US that was friendly towards us, supported fair trade and was fantastic economically and not a crazy socialist in charge.

Oh yeh, the left hated him for being orange.
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29/03/2021 13:43:41 8 2
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Did you miss the "initiated under Trump" bit of this situation or did you deliberately choose to ignore it?
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29/03/2021 13:45:39 2 1
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You think Biden is a 'socialist'...?

Stop reading Reichbart, it's not a news site.
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29/03/2021 13:46:20 4 1
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Trump slapped more taxes on UK than any other US president.
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29/03/2021 13:46:23 3 1
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No the left loves him because he was damaging the US and they were becoming a regional power.

Which is great because the US is toxic.
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29/03/2021 13:39:26 10 15
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Bring back Trump. That Biden looks well shifty to me... never trust a 'nice' person.
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29/03/2021 13:43:30 8 3
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He's a puppet
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29/03/2021 13:48:08 0 1
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If you watch his latest TV appearances (very few I know) I suspect he won't be in office much longer.
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Payback to big tech for helping him win the Whitehouse....discuss.
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29/03/2021 13:44:31 83 111
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Fake news.
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29/03/2021 13:47:19 30 14
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Hard to argue with that one. Especially when you see how complicit they were in covering up the Hunter Biden scandal when it looked to affect his chances of election.
29/03/2021 15:13:09 10 11
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Or, you know, Trump having less than 30% popularity in the polls for his entire term might be responsible.

But no according to right wing loons everytime they lose it must be a conspiracy.
A 3 legged blind dog could have beaten Trump, he got about 45% of the vote and that was as High as his approval got during his presidency..Even though he got 74 million votes, Biden got over 81 million votes a record because Trump was despised by those who voted for Biden.. Removed
29/03/2021 16:38:59 2 2
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You don't have to read very far to invalidate your own argument:
"Washington is pressing ahead with the action, initiated under President Trump, and has scheduled hearings on the list."
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29/03/2021 13:41:42 692 28
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First they protect Anne Schoolas, now this. So much for the so-called "Special relationship" we like to boast about.
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29/03/2021 14:18:48 10 46
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We initiated this dispute. It seems rather bizarre to be blaming the US for responding.
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29/03/2021 14:20:46 75 1
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Quite. Had the situation been reversed we would have handed over the culprit immediately. As other countries have when similar things happened in the USA. The USA is the only civilised country that thinks it's above international law. American 'exceptionalism' they call it.
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29/03/2021 14:24:19 70 0
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Interesting isn't it. Only the UK refers to it as a "special relationship". The US will cosy up to whoever keeps them number one. We are just another "ally" that they can walk all over when it suits them
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29/03/2021 14:37:18 7 21
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We share intelligence and security information in a way that few countries do.
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29/03/2021 14:42:37 44 1
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The Special Relationship was a term coined in 1946 to describe Churchill's work with Roosevelt/Truman.
Times have changed a lot since then.
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29/03/2021 14:43:28 1 25
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We are the ones you are deciding to tax their businesses differently from others. We would rightly complain if any country treated our businesses differently from others
29/03/2021 14:58:00 14 51
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Trump didn't do this, this is Biden, then man every socialist remoaner in the UK wanted, along with taxes on the internet giants. Now what to do? Their man is actually proving worse than Trump. Locking up kids of the Mexico border, putting a news blackout on it, now helping the left's pet hates avoid paying 'their fair share of tax'. All the Biden boys & girls try and blame Brexit & Boris!
UK protected several criminals we were trying to get to court of justice in the post communist PL .Extradition had been denied on several occasions,innocent people were murdered yet Britain was protecting former communist judges because they became British citizens.
America does the same so please look first in the mirror before you criticize USoA, yes I thought Britain was our ally. I was wrong
29/03/2021 18:45:05 3 0
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They say bend over; we say how far? but remember we are.....'taking back control'...... well somewhere I guess. Though clearly not here and there many other examples.

Trade negiogiations are just dirty unfair fights..
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29/03/2021 13:39:39 356 31
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Call their bluff, double the digital services tax, or just let them keep shifting all the profit out of this company whilst our legimate tax paying companies go to the wall.
Either way, the outcome will be the same, except doubling the tax the US will suffer also, and maybe see sense and pay their way.
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29/03/2021 13:41:47 165 17
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Good idea, I'm up for it.
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29/03/2021 13:50:56 8 1
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No doubt Boris and Co are readying for war, trade or otherwise on the back of that comment but for now you get stuck in!

You lead the way mate, we'll be right behind cheering you on. Those mouths aren't laughing at you, we're cheering you on.
29/03/2021 18:11:20 1 0
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Who'll pay. Joe public.
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29/03/2021 13:41:48 1172 21
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When will people realise that the US is an ally but not our 'friend' . They act of the basis of pure self interest and so should we. This spat is a smokescreen - £700 million per year is a drop in the ocean to what really should be paid in country. The big tech giants also stifle innovation and diversity - even the US will wake up to this one day (but it might be too late by then).
The far left have always counted these tech companies as their luvvies, just look at the recent presidential election to see how they stifled any reasonable debate against the dems.
The tech companies will get away with this for aslong as they grease the wheels of the far left democrats and SJW culture in general.
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:56:47 49 23
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All the big trade blocs do the same.

The difference is we just left one, and we can never be part of the USA, so we're out in the shark-infested water alone, and something is bleeding...
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29/03/2021 14:25:03 0 1
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I know it was a comedy....but you wonder.... that scene in Love Actually; how close is that to the truth?
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29/03/2021 14:28:50 0 0
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Quite a long time ago, that's when I and most people I know, realised that.
29/03/2021 14:53:30 0 13
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We should stop supporting US led wars, curiously Biden has been involved in starting more of them than ever Trump did. Now we note Biden is locking up kids on the Mexican border AND demanding Amazon, Google etc DON'T pay their fair share of UK taxes - watch the remoaners/left whingers wriggle on that news.
29/03/2021 16:05:54 5 2
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The US is not an ally any more than a friend, it is a user, it uses other people for their own ends. Time to walk away, we need them even less than we 'needed' the EU. It is long over time to stop the continual bleating and get on with building a vibrant manufacturing economy, of COURSE we can make it ourselves - everything, whatever it is can be made better here.
29/03/2021 16:55:03 2 0
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You have virtually no friends left...thank your government for being isolated from the civilised world
29/03/2021 17:04:29 2 3
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I do nt see how the big tech companies stiffle innovation. In fact competition between them only enhaces innovation as seen with Intel, AMD and the new Apple M1 chip. Apple in particular has been innovating since the Apple 1. With out them you would not have smartphones, Tablets and potetially even Windows on your computers
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29/03/2021 17:09:54 0 2
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Very true and the same for the EU
29/03/2021 17:28:47 1 0
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You do not invent prejudicial taxes targeted at your 'friends'. It is a completely unacceptable basis for tax. Created by the incompetent taxing of profits that are totally manipulated instead of local turnover. Charge people, businesses here, pay tax here. Tax first. Profits your worry. It is not acceptable to tax on line differently to off line.
29/03/2021 18:14:47 2 0
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Google giveth (Open source projects like Chrome and Android) and Google taketh away (e.g by gaining a monopoly in the browser market and adding features that benefit their services over others).

At least Google made a standards compliant browser, the same can't be said for Microsoft, when they had the browser monopoly with Internet Explorer. The latest Edge browser is just Chrome re-branded BTW.
29/03/2021 20:26:12 0 0
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That is a bunch of bull and you know it. The US is just acting in defense of its industries as would any other country when targeted so specifically. The US only acts in self-interest on issues of defense because they are more paranoid than many others, and for some, not all, good reason.
29/03/2021 20:40:47 0 0
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The US is not an ally, it just uses other countries to suit its own needs. The only interest in all its dealings is what's best for the USA and it will use any means to get what it wants
30/03/2021 09:12:56 0 0
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Precisely so. The big prize is not this kind of tax, but the repatriation to the UK from EU tax havens of UK related activity. Ireland, Netherlands, Lux, Belgium etc., all enjoy disproportionate benefits at our expense.
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29/03/2021 13:41:57 903 34
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Ignore the threats. TAX them. We pay it and so should they.
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29/03/2021 13:48:49 353 327
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Lolz this has got "They need us more than we need them" vibes, how did that work out?
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xlr
29/03/2021 14:04:00 27 14
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We'd just lose as much in trade as we take in extra tax. Defiant but pointless.

And by the way the government are actively promoting "emerging markets" to any UK companies having problems with the new Brexit paperwork. As our trade with the US increases, so does their power over us. We wouldn't want to annoy our new masters would we?
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29/03/2021 14:07:59 18 6
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Ignore the threats? You mean ignore the punitive US import taxes that will make our exports uncompetitive? What sound business acumen you have.
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29/03/2021 14:20:31 5 3
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Ah yes, they tax us so we tax them, then they tax us higher in return and we reciprocate....

Then everybody's a winner right? Except the consumer of course.... aka the public, they lose.

I mean if we had a government that spends their money in a way that benefits the public (i.e. not HS2, extra nukes, unfair awarding of contracts etc.) then I'd be right with you... but we have the Tories.
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29/03/2021 14:23:27 4 0
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Absolutely. Someone has to be first. Other countries will then follow suit. When the only market left not taxing the likes of Amazon, Facebook et-al properly is the U.S one, they may just finally 'get it'.
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29/03/2021 14:41:48 2 0
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You do realise that all taxes are ultimately paid for by the consumer, so the more you tax companies the higher the price becomes, and if it gets too high and people stop buying, it leads to job losses. Can already see that Rates are too high, which has driven loads of companies from the high street
29/03/2021 14:47:17 1 0
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Couldn't agree with you more!!
29/03/2021 15:10:09 2 1
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You are correct WE will pay this tax.

Anyone that sees an advert on social media or uses the internet will be paying this extra cost because adverts cost money and advertising costs are passed to the consumer.
The only way theses taxes will not be passed to you is if never buy anything that is advertised on line!
29/03/2021 15:14:02 0 0
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They do pay tax. They pay in the country where they are based (the USA). In just the same way that when a British company sells products worth millions in Asia the tax on the profits is paid here and not in Asia.
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29/03/2021 15:42:21 2 0
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They'll just pass it on the the customers, yep you and I they won't loose out....
29/03/2021 16:27:32 1 0
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They are in a different country though. Tricky thing for HMRC to tax foreigners...
29/03/2021 17:30:29 0 0
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Wrong. The concept of such a tax is fundamentally immoral and wrong. Spite not fairness. Down to bad old tax systems.
29/03/2021 18:01:13 1 0
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What has happened to Johnson's great trade deal with US. Has it even got off the ground.
29/03/2021 18:16:12 1 0
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Yes, who needs Google, Facebook, Amazon etc?
Many people, it seems, until they realize that there is more to life that those greedy twits.
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29/03/2021 13:41:57 10 19
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At a guess, this will wake the remainers from their slumber
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Ben
29/03/2021 13:44:43 6 5
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I mean, that's one way to admit Brexit finds ever more ways to screw us over.
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29/03/2021 13:36:09 24 31
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Go do one Biden
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29/03/2021 13:39:53 6 2
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I think that's what he's telling the "busted flush", the UK.
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29/03/2021 13:40:19 91 82
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If only we had the muscle of a large trading bloc strong enough to make the Americans back off...
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29/03/2021 13:45:19 37 43
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Wow that’s out of the box thinking. It’ll never catch on. We ruled the world once don’t you know. Well be fine.
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29/03/2021 14:08:08 6 7
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Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit; everything to do with the USA doing what it always does with tariffs when it doesn't get it's own way...still, don't let the truth get in the way of your agenda and opinion eh?
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29/03/2021 14:08:27 4 2
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What difference would a 'large trading bloc' do? A large trading bloc did sweet FA when the French had the same thought ...

https://www.ft.com/content/f51be172-746f-48f2-9b9d-ac782b707c76
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29/03/2021 14:15:13 2 2
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Funny, I thought that the French were still in the EU yet the Americans placed additional duties on their goods? Hey ho, let's go.
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29/03/2021 14:15:53 2 1
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That's really getting boring now. How many times does it have to be pointed out that EU countries have had no more success taxing the tech giants. the US has also threatened France, and some EU countries (Luxembourg, Ireland) prefer to act as tax havens.
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29/03/2021 14:18:21 3 3
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Except that it didn't work for us when we were in the EU, did it?

Double-Dutch Irish Sandwich, Luxembourg etc. etc.

If we had had a unified taxation system in the EU than certain countries wouldn't have been creaming it in at our expense.

In short, we got screwed in the EU, we get screwed out of the EU.
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29/03/2021 14:27:35 1 0
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Like we did in the EU when Apple paid 0.05% tax through Ireland....
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29/03/2021 14:25:09 5 1
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You mean some sort of union, based around the geography of Europe? That sounds like a good idea.
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29/03/2021 14:35:39 1 0
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The EU are not United on anything. Taxing tech giants? Ask Ireland and Luxembourg. Nordstream 2 ? Only Germany want it. Vaccines? Let's not go there!!
29/03/2021 14:49:51 1 0
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Yawn. Play another tune.
If only we hadn't given up the colonies; if only the moon was made of green cheese.
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29/03/2021 13:40:23 3 8
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Donald was not the best guy in the world, but a difficult act to follow LOL

God Bless
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29/03/2021 13:45:20 5 0
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Trump slapped lots of taxes on UK
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lg
29/03/2021 13:40:44 4 5
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Pointless tax anyway, the Google Digital Tax was just passed onto advertisers like me, hiking my prices by 2%. The extra "£300m" raised for HMRC has not affected the digital companies at all.
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29/03/2021 13:43:38 6 2
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But has collected extra £300m. Which is the point
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29/03/2021 13:42:20 31 27
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Ahahahahahahaha, i know this negatively impacts us all but this must be a big FU to all those who said that the US could help fill the gap in our trade from leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU means we have less leverage on other countries and will be a much smaller fish.... other countries will obviously take advantage of this. welcome to little britain
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29/03/2021 13:44:25 7 3
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I don't think anyone said that, I remember all the protests and backlash over chicken and NHS, I think most of the UK gives USA a big FU
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Tom
29/03/2021 13:38:49 25 23
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Sleepy Joe doesn't have a clue
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29/03/2021 13:42:23 23 5
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But - Sleepy Joe has the clout - as the UK will soon find out in the upcoming trade deal negotiations. I think UK negotiators will start to miss Barnier...
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29/03/2021 13:42:37 329 156
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Interesting - the US is throwing its weight around with the UK but has avoided taking on the EU.... wonder why that is.

Must be another Brexit-Bonus
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29/03/2021 13:55:47 122 83
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Or maybe your missing the details ;-)
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29/03/2021 14:03:27 14 27
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So how do you link up your failed theory when the same taxes being applied to Austria and Spain?, a little clue for you , they are still in the EU LOL
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29/03/2021 14:10:02 17 21
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Rubbish. I guess you carefully avoided the threats from the US to tax French products when the French government also talked about trying to make the tech giants pay up. Noticing that story would have interfered with your one-note interpretation of everything!
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29/03/2021 14:22:51 34 16
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It is almost as if the EU is bigger, and has more leverage in international trade than we do now.

Still, tally ho chaps with the new British Empire.
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29/03/2021 14:38:51 9 29
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Must be another complaining Remoaner.
29/03/2021 15:21:02 5 10
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LOL you are desperate! They are throwing their weight around to save the UK taxing Amazon & Google, Luxembourg (the EU's onshore tax haven) protects Amazon & Google from EU taxes, so they've no need to target the EU. But don't worry the time they are a changin' as they say and the economic consequences of last year & 'helicopter money' will hammer the EU & maybe the US.
29/03/2021 15:33:26 6 4
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No, same issue with the EU.
29/03/2021 18:36:15 2 6
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Another one bamboozled by the EU rhetoric.
Absolutely miffed as to why so many are obsessed with this wretched controlling organisation.
The proof is in the pudding in recent weeks !!!
Take those rose tinted specs off and respect your country instead of the remain/leave drivel??
30/03/2021 08:56:33 1 0
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Correct and right.
Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving.
A disaster foisted upon the people by right wing gutter media and right wing gutter politicians
30/03/2021 15:07:25 0 0
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They didn't avoid it with the EU. France tried to tax the tech giants and the US made them back down before it could even become a law. The UK didn't back down.
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29/03/2021 13:39:39 356 31
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Call their bluff, double the digital services tax, or just let them keep shifting all the profit out of this company whilst our legimate tax paying companies go to the wall.
Either way, the outcome will be the same, except doubling the tax the US will suffer also, and maybe see sense and pay their way.
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Ben
29/03/2021 13:42:50 23 0
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Unlikely. It's an unequal partnership, as the UK only represents one market these giants operate in. If all the countries cooperated and introduced taxes on the digital services, we'd be getting somewhere.
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29/03/2021 13:40:44 90 48
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i thought when Biden was elected and Trump kicked out the USA would become all lovely and less authoritarian?
be careful what you wish for, woke generation.
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29/03/2021 13:42:58 41 27
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I wish people would stop throwing the insult 'woke' at others. It assumes yje person wasn't awake in the first place.
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29/03/2021 13:44:59 14 7
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'WOKE' Grow up!
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29/03/2021 14:37:36 5 12
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We all know what WOKE means, and it isn't anything to do with being awake. See Australian school making boys stand up and apologise for being boys. Prime example of this BS.
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29/03/2021 13:43:00 12 10
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Biden doesn’t like us. Fact.
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Ray
29/03/2021 13:38:06 142 14
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Is it 1929 all over again ? Late 1920/21 saw the end of spanish flu, the decade was known as the 'roaring twenties' as stock markets rose. Then at the end of the decade, depression, wall street crash and protectionism. Is history really repeating ?
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29/03/2021 13:43:03 154 7
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Yes not because it is repeating, but because we have done nothing with decades of wealth other than get lazy, loot the nation, and now are being in panic mode
29/03/2021 17:10:48 0 0
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Loot the nation? Developing nations? Third World nations?
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:43:11 175 21
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Countries like Luxembourg and Ireland (and maybe others I'm not aware of) benefit hugely from the way that tech giants dodge tax. I wouldn't imagine the EU would be wholely united on this.
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29/03/2021 14:02:03 10 4
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You mean that countries in the Eu have sovereignty and that brexiters are just a bunch of liars?

That what you mean?
29/03/2021 15:30:21 0 0
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They aren't but the US frightens the EU too.
29/03/2021 16:12:49 2 0
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The EU do not look kindly on Ireland or Luxembourg for their tax arrangements with the Techs, but the EU made the laws and the two tiddlers are able to argue their rights in court and get away with it.
29/03/2021 16:36:10 1 1
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Seems your just "not aware of" period. The EU has strictly enforced UE wide policies for tech giant taxation - hence the US wont mess with the EU. Meanwhile in Brexit Britain??
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29/03/2021 13:43:14 2 2
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The UK is one the US biggest trading partners and vice versa so you would expect an agreement before the tit for tat games start.
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29/03/2021 13:43:15 29 22
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Lost a fair bit of our bargaining power by not being part of that big neighbouring trading bloc. I'm sure the Cultists thought this through though......
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29/03/2021 13:39:14 23 35
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Falling out with the EU, USA and China over trade etc.

Those post-Brexit sunlit uplands are as far away as ever.
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29/03/2021 13:43:18 7 11
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You can tie it to Brexit if you want but it's not really about that is it?
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29/03/2021 13:48:30 5 0
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The fact that we don't have the weight of a massive trading bloc behind us and that the USA doesn't appear to be taking the EU on indicates that it's very much linked to Brexit.
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:43:24 29 33
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Remoners are getting rather boring now. Read the article " could" does not mean they will. As for sovereignty did France a member of the EU share their windfall from Facebook? No.
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29/03/2021 14:29:39 0 0
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Oh we're back to that "could" word again. It doesn't mean they won't either.
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29/03/2021 13:39:26 10 15
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Bring back Trump. That Biden looks well shifty to me... never trust a 'nice' person.
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29/03/2021 13:43:30 8 3
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He's a puppet
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29/03/2021 13:52:27 1 0
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Yep, big business runs America by, among other things, financing political campaigns and 'lobbying' - nothing is really democracy by the people.
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29/03/2021 13:43:31 23 19
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Oh, Brexit, Brexit ... does the United Kingdom have ANY friends left?

Myanmar & North Korea?
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29/03/2021 13:45:47 13 8
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It's stuff like this that really shows how clueless so many are. You do realise the EU is having the exact same issue on the exact same subject and faces a far bigger issue than the UK does?

No, didn't think so, wouldn't suit your preconceived notions.
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29/03/2021 13:48:33 0 0
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we'll find out come eurovision. I predict we'll be last
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29/03/2021 13:36:09 24 31
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Go do one Biden
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29/03/2021 13:43:34 6 4
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IF you had read the above story you might have noticed "Washington is pressing ahead with the action, initiated under President Trump, and has scheduled hearings on the list."
But hey ho once a trumpet always a trumpet.
29/03/2021 19:34:24 0 0
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ah I didn't see your post when I commented before until now, you beat me too it haha
How did the OP completely miss this part of the story?
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lg
29/03/2021 13:40:44 4 5
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Pointless tax anyway, the Google Digital Tax was just passed onto advertisers like me, hiking my prices by 2%. The extra "£300m" raised for HMRC has not affected the digital companies at all.
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29/03/2021 13:43:38 6 2
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But has collected extra £300m. Which is the point
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lg
29/03/2021 13:45:27 2 2
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Yes from UK tax payers! Not from the digital companies lol.
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29/03/2021 13:38:59 11 19
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If only there were a President in the US that was friendly towards us, supported fair trade and was fantastic economically and not a crazy socialist in charge.

Oh yeh, the left hated him for being orange.
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29/03/2021 13:43:41 8 2
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Did you miss the "initiated under Trump" bit of this situation or did you deliberately choose to ignore it?
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29/03/2021 13:37:44 1279 55
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As usual, the special relationship is a one way road.
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29/03/2021 13:43:50 860 678
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They told us that there would be no special treatment for the UK once we left the EU and the right wing media gave off saying that Obama should keep quiet and not try to influence the vote...

Well those chickens have now come home to roost
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29/03/2021 13:47:44 109 23
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US Interference in a foreign election. Hilarious isn’t it.
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29/03/2021 13:50:20 96 20
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They welcome Donald’s input to Brexit tho
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29/03/2021 13:50:35 149 140
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Do you not feel even a little bit silly trying to link this with leaving the EU when it has nothing to do with that whatsoever?
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29/03/2021 13:50:36 116 33
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The thing is, this is exactly how Trump treated the UK - just in a more tacit way. Biden is just coming out and saying it as it is - we're back of the queue.
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29/03/2021 13:53:45 74 28
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The only issue with what you are saying is that the EU and US are increasingly confrontational on trade, their treatment of each other certainly could be described as "special" if by special you mean difficult, fractious and deteriorating.

On this basis, I think the UK will be quite happy to receive "no special treatment" from the US.
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29/03/2021 13:54:59 33 62
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Get over yourself. Brexit has happened and there are many trade deal we have and many more on their way. The USA has a lot more to sell us than we have to sell them back
You're spineless. Removed
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29/03/2021 14:00:21 38 1
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Now there's an idea. Increase the tax on Kentucky Fried Chicken.
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29/03/2021 14:04:40 34 40
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Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit; don't let that spoil your agenda and opinion though...
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29/03/2021 14:05:23 38 37
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Oh, FGS, get over it. You attempt to blame it on Brexit might hold water were it not for the fact that the US has already had run-ins with several EU countries (notably France) over their attempts to tax the tach giants.
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29/03/2021 14:06:21 28 10
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You're so right!

I admit I was wrong - they're all the same.... the 'special relationship' only woks in their favour - time and again!

I voted for Brexit... I may have made yet another error!
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29/03/2021 14:08:14 21 43
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Still whining about Brexit?.Hasn't the disgusting behaviour of the EU in recent weeks opened up your eyes,or are you lefties blind with hatred of your own country?.
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29/03/2021 14:16:46 14 4
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There is no special treatment for the EU either. USA looks after itself
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29/03/2021 14:20:25 8 21
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Remainers were the chickens. If you want to walk to the other side of the road I am sure the EU will welcome you :)
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29/03/2021 14:33:47 4 17
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In case you failed to notice the US replaced the pro-British Mr Trump with the anti-British, pro-IRA Mr Biden.
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29/03/2021 14:35:20 1 7
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There will be a US/UK trade deal eventually.
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29/03/2021 13:43:51 27 22
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Brexit Britain finding out another 260 million folks dont seem to bothered about her.Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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29/03/2021 13:51:01 10 11
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Russian Bot speak if ever I heard it!
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UKG
29/03/2021 14:10:53 1 0
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Bit like the French then....because the EU werent too bothered about them either in the same scenerio
https://www.ft.com/content/f51be172-746f-48f2-9b9d-ac782b707c76
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29/03/2021 13:43:57 1 3
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It's increasingly obvious that the days of global trade are coming to an end. Unfair polluting and used a means of control time to produce locally and trade only in raw materials and only then if you have to. We have the technology and the means to create a better society
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29/03/2021 13:43:59 23 17
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"Similar actions have proceeded against similar taxes in India, Austria and Spain, but action against the European Union as a whole was dropped."
More great news from Brexitland.
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29/03/2021 13:53:27 13 0
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No idea what point u are making.. Aren't Austria and Spain in the EU? Seems its nothing to do with Brexit..Just asking for a friend
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29/03/2021 13:54:40 1 0
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So being in the EU wouldn't have protected you or benefited you at all from this tax war, in other words.
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Ed
29/03/2021 13:57:57 4 0
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I don't like Brexit either but you really need to be a little more objective. Spain and Austria are still in the EU and also on the receiving end of retaliatory sanctions from the US as you yourself just quoted.
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29/03/2021 13:44:01 15 8
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He little fish move aside your in the the big blue sea now....
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29/03/2021 13:50:14 4 5
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U-Kippers tend to be swallowed whole by larger denizens of the deep. Comparatively, the US is a leviathan
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29/03/2021 13:44:01 14 16
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Interesting how the far left were outraged at the big corps not paying their fair share in taxes with regular outcry of taxing the rich yet when the policy is implemented they now cry foul of the government for damaging the relationships between the US and EU.....

Hypocrites much?
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29/03/2021 13:46:24 6 5
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You just invented a position that doesn't exist. Have fun with your strawman ??
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29/03/2021 13:46:31 4 1
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Since when are the democrats and Joe Biden "far left"?
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KRR
29/03/2021 13:51:59 2 1
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No. Domestic taxation and trade tariffs are entirely different. You are misunderstanding trade, taxation, 'the far left' and the actions of Bungling Bonzo's, for want of a better word, Government.

As with all understanding-limited Brexiteers, I recommend you read up on stuff.
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29/03/2021 13:44:02 12 10
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This has nothing to do with Brexit. We got slapped with tariffs along with the EU over the Airbus farce, which have since been removed by the US. This is protectionism by the USA at it's worst. A continuation of the Trump "America First" policies. Mr Zimmer-frame hasn't got any policies of his own.
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KRR
29/03/2021 13:49:45 2 2
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Mr Zimmer-frame, eh? Nice I thought you had given up on Social Media, Mr Trumpet?

So WE DON'T NEED DA YANKS now follows WE DON'T NEED DA EU FORNERS as kne-jerk Brexiteer responses to their hero's idiocy.

One wonders who will be left for us to trade with...
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29/03/2021 13:44:06 39 31
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https://westcountrybylines.co.uk/when-financial-services-leave-we-all-lose/

Scroll down the page (it’s not far) & have a look at the top 10 exports to the EU & the %

Incredible!

Truly tragic for those impacted.

The Daily Express will still tell you what a tremendous success Brexit has been though.
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29/03/2021 13:50:14 15 8
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The problem is there is no indication that those drops are only due to Brexit, covid has also had an impact, especially on good sold in supermarkets and within the food chain.
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29/03/2021 13:53:10 3 2
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Wasn't it the EU that said we were too small to negotiate our own trade deals. Remind us how many we have signed so far please. The last time I looked it was 40 trade deals covering 70 countries. That's a few more than they expected right remoaner?
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29/03/2021 14:07:04 2 1
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Brexit is a massive success.
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29/03/2021 13:44:08 84 23
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UK is done the right thing ... US. under Biden hasntand won't change.
29/03/2021 15:54:56 25 6
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Why is one bad and one good?

Both countries are just looking out for their self interests.
don't worry about what Joe Biden has threatened.
this time next week he will have forgotten about it.
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29/03/2021 13:46:09 4 1
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He will remember it for a whole week ?.
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29/03/2021 13:44:19 7 4
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I hope people are now starting to understand that a Government can stand up for its own national interest without having to shout their mouths off on Twitter.
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29/03/2021 13:42:20 31 27
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Ahahahahahahaha, i know this negatively impacts us all but this must be a big FU to all those who said that the US could help fill the gap in our trade from leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU means we have less leverage on other countries and will be a much smaller fish.... other countries will obviously take advantage of this. welcome to little britain
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29/03/2021 13:44:25 7 3
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I don't think anyone said that, I remember all the protests and backlash over chicken and NHS, I think most of the UK gives USA a big FU
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29/03/2021 14:29:51 0 0
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Of course there was criticism about a deal with the US, but it didn't come from the government. They did try to tell us that we could replace EU trade with US trade. That's why they brought in legislation last summer to be able to lower our agricultural standards when such a deal is struck.
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29/03/2021 13:41:42 203 59
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Payback to big tech for helping him win the Whitehouse....discuss.
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29/03/2021 13:44:31 83 111
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Fake news.
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29/03/2021 14:03:22 28 6
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Big tech silenced the New York Post's esposé on Hunter Biden and possible tax fraud as 'fake news'. They banned the newspaper from posting any articles on Twitter until they removed their Hunter Biden story one.

A few weeks after the election the FBI launched a formal investigation of Hunter's taxes and are continuing to do so.
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29/03/2021 14:03:39 25 7
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Funny how Facebook would not take electoral advertising from the Republicans. That's interference not fake news. Lazy comment there pal.
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29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:44:32 24 11
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I take it you didn't read the article or any background to digital services tax? For example, the US threatened tariffs that would specifically target the French economy and businesses when they suggested something similar. You of course are aware than France is in the EU yet the EU did nothing to weigh in on France's side, and the US took no note of the EU in targeting one of their members.
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29/03/2021 14:03:38 10 4
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The EU respects the sovereignty of countries, and each country decides on tax matters.

You do not like that about the EU? Would you rather they intervened in tax matters of member states?
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29/03/2021 14:11:09 5 0
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Of course they didn't read it. Amazon bad! Swerving taxes all over the place! So they need punishing because the high street! (the same high street that got slaughtered by the rise in shopping centres and out of town supermarkets of course)
29/03/2021 15:41:25 3 0
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Each EU state is responsible for its own tax rates.
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29/03/2021 13:44:36 27 25
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Welcome to the real post brexit reality of no mates Britain.
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29/03/2021 13:46:17 12 7
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Who needs mates with friends like you.
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29/03/2021 13:46:54 1 3
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He will have forgot by tomorrow.
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29/03/2021 13:46:06 2 1
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Sorry you lost.
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29/03/2021 13:50:01 3 1
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Funny how you Remoaners find an angle at every opportunity regardless of how ridiculous it sounds. Who needs friends like the US? They're always in it for themselves.
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29/03/2021 13:41:57 10 19
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At a guess, this will wake the remainers from their slumber
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Ben
29/03/2021 13:44:43 6 5
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I mean, that's one way to admit Brexit finds ever more ways to screw us over.
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29/03/2021 13:42:58 41 27
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I wish people would stop throwing the insult 'woke' at others. It assumes yje person wasn't awake in the first place.
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29/03/2021 13:44:59 14 7
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'WOKE' Grow up!
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29/03/2021 13:39:39 356 31
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Call their bluff, double the digital services tax, or just let them keep shifting all the profit out of this company whilst our legimate tax paying companies go to the wall.
Either way, the outcome will be the same, except doubling the tax the US will suffer also, and maybe see sense and pay their way.
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29/03/2021 13:45:06 8 4
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Thought we wanted a massive trade desk with them?

Not sure this is the right way to go.
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29/03/2021 13:54:36 10 1
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The idea is for trade to go in two directions, not just to funnel money straight to America. This tax is long overdue and is a mere rounding error to the tax cos anyway.
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29/03/2021 13:45:19 9 4
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How about the USA join the UK in turning the tide on global tech firms hiding their profits and avoiding paying their fair share of tax into the global system?
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29/03/2021 13:40:19 91 82
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If only we had the muscle of a large trading bloc strong enough to make the Americans back off...
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29/03/2021 13:45:19 37 43
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Wow that’s out of the box thinking. It’ll never catch on. We ruled the world once don’t you know. Well be fine.
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29/03/2021 14:00:31 10 0
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Maybe we should try telling them about how we won World War Two. That'll do it.
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29/03/2021 14:05:11 8 1
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That'll never happen again. We're in irreversible decline.
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Ken
29/03/2021 14:11:02 10 1
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And when we ruled the world we did exactly the same as the tech companies are now doing - we made enormous profits in other countries and brought it all back to UK leaving underdeveloped countries stripped of assets.
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29/03/2021 14:20:33 5 1
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That was then now we couldn't rule a sheet of paper
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29/03/2021 14:27:04 3 0
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Let us know how ruling the world again works out.

When should we start plundering the natural resources of third world countries?
29/03/2021 15:33:11 1 0
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We used to use apostrophes, don't you know? The dinosaurs used to rule to the world too.
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29/03/2021 13:45:19 0 8
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Time to look East.
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29/03/2021 13:48:50 1 2
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Why not? To the west is USA, to east is gentle China to the south horrible Europe.

What's up north? oh yeah, the wall.
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29/03/2021 13:40:23 3 8
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Donald was not the best guy in the world, but a difficult act to follow LOL

God Bless
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29/03/2021 13:45:20 5 0
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Trump slapped lots of taxes on UK
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29/03/2021 13:37:44 1279 55
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As usual, the special relationship is a one way road.
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29/03/2021 13:45:22 157 164
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don't worry about Joe Bidens threat.
he will forget about it in a couple of hours...
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29/03/2021 13:48:56 117 21
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Did you even read the article?This action was started under Trump, and Biden's merely let it continue.
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29/03/2021 14:19:53 13 5
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Has your hero Trump remembered yet that he lost the election?
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29/03/2021 13:43:38 6 2
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But has collected extra £300m. Which is the point
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lg
29/03/2021 13:45:27 2 2
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Yes from UK tax payers! Not from the digital companies lol.
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29/03/2021 13:45:33 21 6
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I thought all those EU flag wavers wanted tech companies to pay more tax ?
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29/03/2021 13:48:12 13 9
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They did, but it doesn't actually matter because regardless of what happens, even if it is at odds with their ideas, it always boils down to Brexit = Bad, even when Brexit = Good.

Such as the fact we replaced the EU student scheme with our own which gives 3x the amount of cash to students to study globally and not just in the EU, the argument just descended into "but but something must be worse".
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29/03/2021 13:49:25 1 1
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Yes, I do. Obviously, UK govt wants that too. Now tell me: who has more chance to implement those higher tech taxes, the UK on its own or the EU?
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29/03/2021 13:38:59 11 19
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If only there were a President in the US that was friendly towards us, supported fair trade and was fantastic economically and not a crazy socialist in charge.

Oh yeh, the left hated him for being orange.
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29/03/2021 13:45:39 2 1
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You think Biden is a 'socialist'...?

Stop reading Reichbart, it's not a news site.
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29/03/2021 13:43:31 23 19
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Oh, Brexit, Brexit ... does the United Kingdom have ANY friends left?

Myanmar & North Korea?
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29/03/2021 13:45:47 13 8
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It's stuff like this that really shows how clueless so many are. You do realise the EU is having the exact same issue on the exact same subject and faces a far bigger issue than the UK does?

No, didn't think so, wouldn't suit your preconceived notions.
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29/03/2021 13:52:19 1 1
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Err not really. You seem to have missed the bit in the article where it says action against the EU has been dropped.
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29/03/2021 13:53:29 1 1
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Action against the EU was dropped. Didnt you bother to read the whole article before posting your misguided opinion?
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29/03/2021 13:45:51 757 80
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So lovely, lovely liberal hero Mr Biden turns out to be in favour of helping the tech giants dodge tax in the UK, so their billionaire owners can maximise their profits from spreading hate and making our kids miserable.

Nice.
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29/03/2021 13:49:34 466 175
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He's not a liberal hero, he was just the better choice in the elections.
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29/03/2021 13:56:18 55 8
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He was never a liberal. Voted for segregationist policies in the 70s and against Gay rights policies until quite recently. Loves wars as well.
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29/03/2021 13:58:27 23 18
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mr trump started it, joes just carrying it on ,
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29/03/2021 14:03:14 55 20
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"lovely liberal hero Mr Biden"

The US Democrats are roughly equivalent to the Tories; the Republicans to the ERG.
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29/03/2021 14:10:41 43 6
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Biden is US President so it is only natural that he should stick up for US businesses. If you don't want your kids feeling miserable then remove their tech & give them a book to read (if they can read that is).
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29/03/2021 14:30:25 9 1
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The us political system is a wonderous advert for going with a communist dictatorship instead. At least you know you’re bent over a barrel and not being told you’re being wined and dined.
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29/03/2021 14:32:22 10 2
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The problem is with the US, no matter who is in charge.

A lot of the hate spreading comes from the right. The anti immigration, anti vaccine, pro religious pro gun anti women anti choice anti empathy bunch
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29/03/2021 14:34:05 9 0
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'America first' Trump would have done exactly the same.
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29/03/2021 14:44:51 9 5
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All this just shows the UK's right is left of the USA's so-called 'left'.
The Democrats would privatise oxygen in the atmosphere if they knew a way to. Yet Democrat politicians are celebrated over here. (Hilary Clinton on the One Show or Graham Norton Show for example) She makes Theresa May look like Mother Teresa.
29/03/2021 14:46:34 8 6
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Biden is no better than Trump. In fact for the rest of the world he will be worse. Can't stand the bloke, thoroughly obnoxious. He is a snake, at least Trump didn't pretend to be decent!
29/03/2021 15:11:25 3 2
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What does him being a Liberal have to do with it. I see you right wing types have already forgotten Trump slapping tariffs on us too.

Selective memory is something you all need curing.
29/03/2021 15:42:46 2 0
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It's called "Taking Back Control" and "America First"
29/03/2021 15:48:47 3 0
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Who has ever called Joe Biden a liberal other than ignorant folk?

The man is about as liberal as Boris Johnson. US politics don't work like UK politics.
29/03/2021 17:30:02 3 0
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Anyone who equates the american use of the word liberal with our own political context is making a mistake. Biden is as 'liberal' as David Davies.
29/03/2021 18:04:05 2 1
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So US in UK sights now. Any attempts to stem trade with China in view of human rights issues. Doubt it, if record with Saudi Rabia an example.
29/03/2021 18:09:53 1 1
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So you'd prefer Johnson hero Trump.
29/03/2021 19:23:43 0 0
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What on earth makes you think the democrats are liberal? They are to the right of the Tories.
djf
29/03/2021 19:39:50 1 0
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Liberal hero that has already ordered assasinations by drone strikes in the middle east.
29/03/2021 20:39:48 2 0
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Trump is gone but the same people are still pulling the strings. America is one corrupt, rotten dump of a country.
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:45:55 15 15
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Size doesn't matter, the US has just as much to lose as the UK going down the tariffs route.
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xlr
29/03/2021 14:09:21 6 0
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Are you seriously suggesting that a tid-for-tat tariff war with the UK (worth $9.6bn) would damage the US more than one with the EU ($1.1 trillion)?

Because it sounds like that's what you're suggesting.
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29/03/2021 14:41:26 0 3
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It isn't a matter of the US or UK losing. It is about customers in both countries paying more because of a trade war. One that we started, thinking it would be a good idea. And it isn't.
29/03/2021 18:22:35 0 0
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Not true.
29/03/2021 21:57:23 1 0
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Of course size matters. Their economy is 8-10x our size... not that we’re anywhere near it but if there were an actual trade war who on earth do you think would blink first?!
don't worry about what Joe Biden has threatened.
this time next week he will have forgotten about it.
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29/03/2021 13:46:09 4 1
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He will remember it for a whole week ?.
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29/03/2021 13:46:15 3 1
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TRADE WAR!
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29/03/2021 13:44:36 27 25
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Welcome to the real post brexit reality of no mates Britain.
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29/03/2021 13:46:17 12 7
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Who needs mates with friends like you.
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29/03/2021 13:38:59 11 19
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If only there were a President in the US that was friendly towards us, supported fair trade and was fantastic economically and not a crazy socialist in charge.

Oh yeh, the left hated him for being orange.
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29/03/2021 13:46:20 4 1
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Trump slapped more taxes on UK than any other US president.
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29/03/2021 13:38:59 11 19
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If only there were a President in the US that was friendly towards us, supported fair trade and was fantastic economically and not a crazy socialist in charge.

Oh yeh, the left hated him for being orange.
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29/03/2021 13:46:23 3 1
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No the left loves him because he was damaging the US and they were becoming a regional power.

Which is great because the US is toxic.
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29/03/2021 13:44:01 14 16
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Interesting how the far left were outraged at the big corps not paying their fair share in taxes with regular outcry of taxing the rich yet when the policy is implemented they now cry foul of the government for damaging the relationships between the US and EU.....

Hypocrites much?
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29/03/2021 13:46:24 6 5
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You just invented a position that doesn't exist. Have fun with your strawman ??
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29/03/2021 13:41:48 1172 21
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When will people realise that the US is an ally but not our 'friend' . They act of the basis of pure self interest and so should we. This spat is a smokescreen - £700 million per year is a drop in the ocean to what really should be paid in country. The big tech giants also stifle innovation and diversity - even the US will wake up to this one day (but it might be too late by then).
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The far left have always counted these tech companies as their luvvies, just look at the recent presidential election to see how they stifled any reasonable debate against the dems.
The tech companies will get away with this for aslong as they grease the wheels of the far left democrats and SJW culture in general.
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29/03/2021 13:50:20 59 15
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Buy a dictionary and look up the term "the far left". You'll see communists etc, but not the many millions of centre left voters in the UK & the US.

You are welcome.
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29/03/2021 13:52:17 68 6
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The tech companies could hardly be more capitalist if they tried. The last thing they are is liberal. I didn't notice the republicans making any special effort to tax tech companies.
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29/03/2021 13:53:35 54 9
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I don't think banning Trump from twitter for crazy conspiracy theories really counts as banning 'reasonable debate'.
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29/03/2021 13:56:07 67 10
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You are so badly uninformed. You have a hatred of things you don’t understand. There is not a single ‘left wing’ Tech company! They are as capitalist as capitalism can be. Sheesh!
What reasonable debate was stifled against the dems?

If you're talking about the Qanon conspiracies, you're a nutter. Hillary Clinton is not the head of an internation paedophile ring, the ship currently stuck isn't carrying 1000's of immigrant children for child sex slavery on behalf of clinton either.
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29/03/2021 14:00:40 42 25
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What an inept post. When we were in the EU we blocked the idea of taxing American tech companies. Now we’re sinking we’re looking around for tax revenue, the EU , free from our negative shackles can power ahead with immunity whilst we get screwed again??
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29/03/2021 14:00:47 17 36
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Jack Dorsey the CEO of Twitter has recently apologised for wrongly interfering in the Election by blocking legitimate news about Hunter Biden and people are actually downvoting you thinking they're right to do so.

Breathtaking.
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29/03/2021 14:03:48 29 7
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I think it's time people declared their nationality on this board - are you American or Russian?
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29/03/2021 14:05:03 25 2
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How long have you been a spokesperson for the 'far left'?

Maybe, possibly, potentially you are just making stuff up to suit your fantasist delusions? Possibly.
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29/03/2021 14:08:51 10 1
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What are you talking about, tech is neo-liberal capitalist.
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29/03/2021 14:09:52 16 0
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"The far left have..."

This is when I stopped reading this comment. I don't imagine I missed much.
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29/03/2021 14:10:17 13 1
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"The far left have always counted these tech companies as their luvvies, just look at the recent presidential election to see how they stifled any reasonable debate against the dems."

Go and bite yourself to death, fool. Tech is about as capitalist as its possible to be.

All those 'far left' multi billionaires.... I'm sure you can reel off their names

Pathetic
I'm intrigued. Define the far left, what do they stand for.

we all know what the far right consists of (Nazis, Fascists, ultra conservatives etc) but what does the far left look like to most of you?
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29/03/2021 14:12:19 9 2
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RE far left??? but, but blither but .....................The usual lame Tory excuse for everything they don't like or understand
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29/03/2021 14:12:46 7 0
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oh god the first good laugh of the day. A woke - so stupid even farage wouldn't have said it
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29/03/2021 14:15:02 8 0
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A Woke, A sleep more like it, it was Trump who tried to protect these companies, now show me one other "leftie" initiative Trump championed.
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29/03/2021 14:15:57 6 0
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Far left to you is a Tory lol
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29/03/2021 13:44:01 14 16
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Interesting how the far left were outraged at the big corps not paying their fair share in taxes with regular outcry of taxing the rich yet when the policy is implemented they now cry foul of the government for damaging the relationships between the US and EU.....

Hypocrites much?
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29/03/2021 13:46:31 4 1
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Since when are the democrats and Joe Biden "far left"?
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29/03/2021 13:51:32 3 0
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They are if you are as far right as this guy
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29/03/2021 13:46:39 1 2
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I hope all those calling for DST's read this - will simplify future HYS discussion! No doubt from our perspective Amazon etc should pay more in the UK.... but there is the other side of the transaction to consider, which is why this is not as easy as people make out
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xlr
29/03/2021 13:37:50 289 205
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If only we were in some large union of countries with sufficient power to go tell the Americans to take a long walk off a short pier.

However we're not, so bend over. That's sovereignty for you.
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29/03/2021 13:46:52 15 15
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This kind of 'awkward' moment is one of the many international obligations and treaties that was ignored in favour of face book posts and flags with lions with the union jack on..

It really is not as simple as folding your arms, and turning your back on the world in a huff, which is what it really was. No utopia either in or out of a trading block, but sometimes you get more of a say.
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29/03/2021 13:44:36 27 25
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Welcome to the real post brexit reality of no mates Britain.
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29/03/2021 13:46:54 1 3
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He will have forgot by tomorrow.
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KRR
29/03/2021 13:47:01 11 12
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I see Bungling Bonzo and his Clueless Tory Toffs are all over delivering that 'Global Britain' they promised after crashing out of the EU.
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29/03/2021 13:49:50 3 4
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Crashing out of the EU? Thank god we did as they’ve shown their true colours!
Even my liberal lefty neighbour is now glad we left German rule!
Get a grip and get over it
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29/03/2021 13:51:49 3 0
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The Tories faced electoral destruction if they didn't finally back a proper Brexit, because leaving the EU is a majority position in the UK. Get real.
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29/03/2021 13:40:44 90 48
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i thought when Biden was elected and Trump kicked out the USA would become all lovely and less authoritarian?
be careful what you wish for, woke generation.
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29/03/2021 13:47:18 10 4
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I thought Biden was a push over and america last?

Becasreful what you wish for vice signaller
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29/03/2021 13:41:42 203 59
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Payback to big tech for helping him win the Whitehouse....discuss.
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29/03/2021 13:47:19 30 14
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Hard to argue with that one. Especially when you see how complicit they were in covering up the Hunter Biden scandal when it looked to affect his chances of election.
29/03/2021 16:39:45 1 1
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It's very easy to argue with it. Read the 6th paragraph.
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29/03/2021 13:47:26 884 19
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I don't care if retaliatory measures cancel out the benefit of taxing tech giants fairly. The amount of profit they make worldwide compared to the tax they pay is obscene, they contribute to the decline on our highstreets and the knock negative effect that has on local economies. We should absolutely push ahead with taxing tech giants appropriately, regardless of any attempts to dissuade us.
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29/03/2021 13:53:48 264 23
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They just pass it on to their customers anyway. The 2% DST was just added to Google bills. What are we advertisers supposed to do when Google are a monopoly and control 95% of the market?
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29/03/2021 13:58:41 24 17
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The tariffs will be passed on and paid by the US consumers purchasing the products. May result in less sales due to increased cost on the shelves but not any direct cost. Only Brexiters believe that tariffs are paid by the exporter and in their defence they have been repeatedly lied to on this issue by Farage, Johnson etc on numerous occassions.
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29/03/2021 14:18:07 17 3
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so change the law so the tax cannot be avoided. These companies pay the tax the law requires. If the government is too stupid to frame the law correctly who is at fault - clue it's not the company involved.
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29/03/2021 14:23:43 4 4
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You would if you worked for a company that exports to the US.
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29/03/2021 14:27:21 7 0
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It's also issues over privacy, security, fake news, over influencing elections trump, brexit. Over foreign governments weaponising Facebook etc.
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29/03/2021 14:28:04 18 1
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The amount of profits they make worldwide is inconsequential. The amount of taxes they pay in the UK should be proportion to the profit they make in UK, not worldwide. UK's tax laws need reflect this reality. They should pay taxes as everyone else
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29/03/2021 14:30:46 1 0
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The tariffs they apply will make goods more expensive for Americans, so it may harm our firms sales, but equally it may harm American wallets.
29/03/2021 14:58:22 2 0
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We can stop them any time we wish by not buying their products and purchasing in our local stores. If we can find them.
29/03/2021 15:09:07 1 1
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Of course there is another option, and that is no tax, no business, stop adverts etc and even block if necessary, yes it will hurt the addicts of social media but in the end it will be better, the amounts of money that the big tech companies syphon out of the country without paying a tax on the business they are doing is just too much, of and as for a trade deal with the USA, no thanks
MJM
29/03/2021 15:09:18 0 0
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Unfortunately the retaliatory measures affect individual industries who are nothing to do with the dispute and certainly not benefiting from the digital tax so it's not a case of 'cancelling out', it's moving the burden elsewhere.
29/03/2021 16:29:12 0 0
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This is like Trump's "Mexico will pay for the wall" mentality. We tax them, they tax us in retaliation, who really pays?
29/03/2021 17:18:46 1 0
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you are totally correct. Our high st. was dead even before lockdown.
29/03/2021 17:45:33 0 1
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The dst doesn't cost companies anything extra - it just changes where they pay it. You're wrong on everything else too. But enjoy your anger.
29/03/2021 18:31:04 0 1
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So you prefer to actively damage UK businesses and interests vs a negligible proportion of revenue of a global giant. Well done... But hey, our new trade deal with the US will fix all this. Gravy tomorrow chaps. Let me know when tomorrow gets here.
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29/03/2021 13:47:28 10 9
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Brexit Britain about to realise how small a minnow they are in a pond full of minnow eating giant sharks.
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29/03/2021 13:47:32 3 3
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Ah, now I know why we built that multi billion pound boat. We want to fight the Americans as well as China, Russia and the EU. Are we sending it to the Pacific to defend our only ally North Korea?