Slight Covid uptick in older school children in England
26/03/2021 | news | health | 1,567
Latest figures from the ONS hint at an increase in years 7 to 11 in schools in England.
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dan
26/03/2021 13:13:51 10 14
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does a positive test mean a case? Are they unwell?
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26/03/2021 13:17:17 12 10
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No - it never has done.

Doctor, I have have case of diarrhea.

I see, what are your symptoms ?

Erm, none at all.
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26/03/2021 13:24:13 3 1
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Its means they have the virus and most will have no symptoms at all which is why testing is important as they can/will spread it unwittingly. At least its levelling off now with no increase in hospital admissions or sadly death. Fingers crossed everyone
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26/03/2021 13:29:13 0 2
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Give them all a hundred lines
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26/03/2021 13:34:20 5 2
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THEY may not be, but a positive test means that they can pass it to others!
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26/03/2021 13:14:17 1 3
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Time to tick them off...
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26/03/2021 13:32:30 1 2
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100 lines
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26/03/2021 13:15:08 1 9
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ONS....still using the old "98.5% of statistics are made up" line
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26/03/2021 13:15:57 63 59
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Open the Pubs.
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26/03/2021 13:17:30 49 36
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That's not what the article is about.
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26/03/2021 13:24:44 8 13
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no way pubs is where people socialise
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26/03/2021 14:02:34 9 8
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Are you really that desperate?
868
26/03/2021 16:22:21 2 0
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What IS the big deal about pubs thought everyone spent their time in Costapacket and so on
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26/03/2021 13:16:09 163 27
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This shows that the predictions of a large rise in infections when schools went back have been completely inaccurate. Some schools will be on their Easter holidays from today, others have only 4 days left and cases will inevitably fall in those groups again over Easter.
Meanwhile hospitalisations and deaths have continued to decrease and deaths are now well below average for the time of year.
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26/03/2021 14:00:45 23 52
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Shame we haven’t git enough vaccine in April to take advantage of the Easter school holidays.
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Bob
26/03/2021 14:43:07 9 5
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I suspect you may be referring to Chris Whitty who said that we should expect to see a rise in cases when schools return.

We did. We jumped by about 25%.

He's referring to official data. The ONS data is completely different and is a sampling of people, symptoms or otherwise. The increased testing meant a rise in cases because people now know the have it. But the ONS data knew that all along.
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26/03/2021 14:51:22 7 9
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How can you say that the predictions of a large rise are inaccurate. In only two weeks we have gone from a steep decline in cases to and equally steep increase. The increase is similar to the one that lead to the second wave when schools were reopened in September and then kept open despite an immediate sharp rise in cases.
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26/03/2021 15:16:31 7 4
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No. This is based on people tested between 13 and 20 March. Schools only went started going back on 8 March. Most people won't test positive for a week or so after being infected, so this is only going to pick up the kids that got infected in their first few days back at school.

The detailed figures show the infection rate in secondary school age children rose by over 50% in the last week.
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26/03/2021 15:38:33 2 7
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E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E????

Nope! None at all, all guess work from home professors of "I'm Bored and Sick of My Kids"
714
26/03/2021 15:40:40 2 1
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I think it shows schools are taking hygiene more seriously than previously.
26/03/2021 22:24:18 0 0
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Schools have only been back 17 days.

As shown by events last September, it takes four to five WEEKS for the inevitable tenfold increase in infections.
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JGC
26/03/2021 13:16:22 11 16
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Lots of teenagers that haven't been vaccinated mixing together combined with testing them twice per week when most wern't tested before and hey presto more "cases". But cases don't matter if they are not getting ill.
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26/03/2021 13:18:56 14 7
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Eh? Cases do matter if they transmit onwards to vulnerable people.
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26/03/2021 13:20:13 7 2
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They do if they are passing it on to others....
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26/03/2021 13:24:26 0 0
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alot of EU students at British schools too back from trip to EU
26/03/2021 21:42:40 0 0
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The ONS testing is different to the testing done in schools....
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26/03/2021 13:16:31 17 13
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Let’s hope that they don’t take it back to parents, many of whom will not have been vaccinated yet.
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26/03/2021 13:19:15 8 6
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A significant proportion of them will have been. Around 25% of the 16-49 age group have now been vaccinated and many parents, especially of secondary school children, will also be over 50 so it's likely at least 40-50% of parents of secondary school age children have been vaccinated and all the vulnerable ones.
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26/03/2021 13:22:42 2 1
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If they're vulnerable to it they will have been.
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26/03/2021 13:22:48 1 4
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Presumably their parents are not 82. So what's the problem.
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26/03/2021 13:23:44 2 1
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yeah their parents haven't been vaccinated as most are not in the age group yet
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JWS
26/03/2021 13:16:45 8 16
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Nothing to worry about, people are vaccinated.
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26/03/2021 13:18:43 14 5
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I work in a secondary school, have a chronic condition and am not vaccinated - nothing to worry about?
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26/03/2021 13:19:47 7 2
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Not all of them - yet.
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26/03/2021 13:23:16 1 1
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no schools are not vaccinated yet for covid that is coming soon
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26/03/2021 13:16:55 10 11
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Another ONS lets make up the numbers based on the side of negativity.
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dan
26/03/2021 13:13:51 10 14
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does a positive test mean a case? Are they unwell?
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26/03/2021 13:17:17 12 10
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No - it never has done.

Doctor, I have have case of diarrhea.

I see, what are your symptoms ?

Erm, none at all.
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26/03/2021 13:17:27 493 54
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With vaccine doses now given to around 55% of adults, covering nearly everyone most vulnerable to death and/or hospitalisation, the link is being broken between these and infections.

Like with other respiratory viruses, we must accept risk will never be zero and ensure a balance between covid and non-covid health risks is reached.
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26/03/2021 13:22:55 32 64
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good opportunity to reduce cold flus and covid
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W 6
26/03/2021 13:25:42 93 21
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Absolutely right. I remember the days when lockdown was to stop hospitals from collapsing. NHS is well and truly saved, can we have our lives back now?
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26/03/2021 13:31:47 33 6
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Bingo! Cases were the big thing when that would correlate to hosptilisations and deaths. That's broken now with the cases among the youngest, vaccines and general better weather
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26/03/2021 13:36:43 39 33
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1st dose of vaccine given only. Important detail.
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26/03/2021 13:42:14 7 16
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will be mass vaccinations at schools by autumn for covid
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26/03/2021 13:51:43 13 7
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Not sure what your cut-and-paste comment has to do with the topic?

The topic is about an increase in children becoming infected. Now if you had said we have been programmed to believe that children don't catch or spread the bug, you would have been on-topic.
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me
26/03/2021 13:54:25 15 17
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Most people have only been partially vaccinated.
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26/03/2021 14:23:08 11 15
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Vaccines partially take effect 3 weeks after first dose and only fully 7-210 days after 2nd dose.
To simply unlock and carry on after 55% have it forgetting this information means all the hard work will likely be wasted and future lockdowns are harder and longer.
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26/03/2021 15:03:38 12 11
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"...we must accept risk will never be zero..."

===

It certainly won't be zero while the kids on the way to and from the local comp continue to group in their small gangs and not a face covering in sight - which is all we have witnessed since they re-opened.
576
26/03/2021 15:09:48 0 1
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Well that's what we are doing
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Dan
26/03/2021 15:11:51 4 0
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In some ways that is right but as many pointed out most only had 1 jab. Also the antivax lot are not helping at all providing chains to transmit and mutate. If everyone just had their jab to get back to normality we would be back to normal much sooner. There's also alot of asthmatics who are very vulnerable been missed off the lists
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26/03/2021 15:24:17 0 4
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BrExIt MeAnS bReXiT tHo!!!!! nyyuurrrrr!!!!!
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26/03/2021 15:33:25 4 3
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yes, time to focus on hospitalisations/deaths rather than infections as the main measure for getting the country back to some normality.
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26/03/2021 15:50:00 4 3
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I've found it interesting what people refer to as an acceptable risk over the last year. Some people are convinced they'll be immune - "it's just a nasty cold". Unless of course you die or you end up with long Covid. I'm sure your life post both of those will have been worth the risk and you're future normal will involve not being able to breathe properly. But it'll be worth it for a pint, right?
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26/03/2021 16:03:58 2 0
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Agreed. So let's be sensible and careful over the next few months to confirm that the vaccines are really working as we think they are. Seems to me the government plan considers this with the step by step slow opening. Let's follow the steps and not destroy what we have achieved. Otherwise we will prolong this situation for much longer.
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26/03/2021 13:17:30 190 94
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any opportunity for a bit of doom-mongering from the BBC. At-risk people are being vaccinated every day - what's the problem?
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NM
26/03/2021 13:35:52 43 11
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If anything it's the opposite as it lays any hysteria that there would be a large jump when schools go back.
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26/03/2021 13:57:49 14 6
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The BBC are reporting the news, and the story points out the sharp fall in deaths and hospital admissions "as a result" of vaccinations.

If you don't want to read the news, go and look at the Daily Mail website. If you don't think the news should be reported, go and live somewhere else and be careful what you wish for.

Shameful so many people have upvoted your cheap comment.
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me
26/03/2021 13:58:07 7 9
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Most at risk are only partially vaccinated. Government ignored the pfizer data on dates. Some have had their second vaccine deferred or cancelled so 'we could have a world beating' vaccine roll out. Not much good if you don't do it properly
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26/03/2021 15:39:29 2 4
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The fact that you need 2 doses of vaccine to be protected.

Wasn't hard to work that one out. You a Home Professor of Everything?
26/03/2021 18:30:44 4 1
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STOP KNOCKING THE BBC. We are lucky to have this national treasure which trie its hardest to be even handed. Trouble is if they take the opposite view to you then they are wrong - heaveb forbid that you might be wrong.
26/03/2021 23:09:35 0 0
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I don’t want long covid
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26/03/2021 13:15:57 63 59
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Open the Pubs.
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26/03/2021 13:17:30 49 36
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That's not what the article is about.
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26/03/2021 13:22:18 14 11
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Well the abscence of a significant rise in infections and deaths and hospitallisations falling means the data shows that we can safely open hospitality.
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26/03/2021 13:18:10 12 7
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The word "estimates" is used in this article twice. Says a lot.
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NM
26/03/2021 13:24:55 8 1
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Are you expecting that they test every single person to ensure that it's not an estimate?
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26/03/2021 13:26:47 3 0
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But it’s the ONS which is doing the estimating, not the author of the article.

If the Office of National Statistics makes an estimate, we should assume it’s an accurate one, based on data and analysis.
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26/03/2021 13:18:21 339 59
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Shock horror!! We're never going to eliminate this virus entirely, when we learn to live with it the better for everyone. More lockdowns for the foreseeable future will pile on more misery and damage.
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26/03/2021 13:40:43 176 223
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If we don't do this properly there will be more lockdowns. Let's not get carried away until we manage to get out both vaccine doses please.
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26/03/2021 13:55:11 22 43
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If we had done, or do what S Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Australia and NZ have done, the virus would have/will be very much under control/wiped out, and we could all go back to living a normal life.

The sooner, the better!!
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26/03/2021 14:58:36 12 18
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OK the testing regime is more widespread than 6-9 months ago but the daily rate of infections remains at around 5500-6000. Scale it up and that comes to a quarter of a million new infections in a quarter. We won't be out of the woods until a much large % of the population are fully vaccinated. Reluctantly I have to accept this doesn't justify a too-rapid removal of all lockdown measures.
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26/03/2021 15:33:52 7 8
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Oh boohoo you're stuck at home. Have a whingey woo and tell mummy about it.
Ray
26/03/2021 22:06:40 0 1
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Never say never. All plagues fizzle out. From black death to Spanish flu, eventually the virus fades away. It may be four or five years away, it may be months but certainly it won't be around forever.
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26/03/2021 13:18:25 3 9
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Range please BBC or ONS

1 in 340 is way too accurate for a statistical estimate based on this small a sample (also not mentioned)

No one is going to be upset by the inevitable inaccuracy

Anyone with a brain knows your artificial accuracy is suspicious
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26/03/2021 13:22:27 4 1
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Fine.

Instead of 1 in 340, let's use 0.3% - which is a range between 0.25% and 0.34%.

Problem solved :)
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26/03/2021 13:26:00 1 1
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The ONS do put a range on this and it's the BBC that are lazy

Essentially the figures for Wales, Scotland (imho this one ONS own up to the other 2) and NI are really too inaccurate to quote or be useful

England is 1 in 300 to 380 which is within the range of the last 3 weeks so may mean nothing

The sample sizes really aren't big enough as the virus reduces incidence in the population
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26/03/2021 13:26:04 4 0
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Read the ONS report then.

"162,500 people within the community population in England had COVID-19 (95% credible interval: 143,200 to 183,100), equating to around 1 in 340 people."
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26/03/2021 13:18:30 343 112
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Nothing to do with massive increase in testing? But some people will still be screaming for school to be closed and lockdown to go on forever.
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26/03/2021 13:30:09 121 64
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These are ONS figures, so nothing to do with the increase in testing, which appears to not be adding any value and is causing major disruption for schools and parents.
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26/03/2021 13:30:57 27 1
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Its the ONS sampling which is the same number each week. Nothing to do with increased testing.
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26/03/2021 13:34:57 27 5
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Nope. It's not quantity of testing, it's a real increase. Which is what you would expect if you allow people to mix more.
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26/03/2021 13:57:33 10 0
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Nothing to do with it because these are ONS surveillance figures not routine testing figures.
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26/03/2021 13:57:42 11 29
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All the testing has proven is what we knew all along that is, that children catch and spread CV19!!

If we had done, or do what S Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Australia and NZ have done, the virus would have/will be very much under control/wiped out, and we could all go back to living a normal life.

The sooner, the better!!
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26/03/2021 14:06:24 7 6
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Who? Certainly not unions who have clearly stated their belief that schools must be open. Certainly not school staff who have been in the classroom throughout. Not parents who have struggled to work from home with their children at home too. Not the students who were relieved to get back to their friends. Seems an empty, unfounded comment.
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Bob
26/03/2021 14:31:19 9 0
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Two things.
1. This is ONS data which is a sampling of random people - symptoms or not.
2. It is looking at the 2nd week of return, in other words even if it was based on the testing since their return then this is looking at how it has grown since that was in place.
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26/03/2021 14:35:47 1 3
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Massive increase in testing. That’s a joke. Kits aren’t being given out to students here because they can’t get hold of them. Plus apparently in 55% of the local secondary schools, children aren’t testing anyway.
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Dan
26/03/2021 14:39:39 10 2
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No-one - but no-one - is "screaming for school to be closed and lockdown to go on forever".

That said, I'd wager the more sensible among us are prepared to put up with restrictions for a little longer to be sure that when we *DO* open up, it will be pretty much for good. It's precisely because we don't want lockdowns to carry on forever that there's a bit of caution.
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26/03/2021 14:46:21 1 1
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“Some” I.e. teachers
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26/03/2021 15:17:53 2 3
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they're called teachers
lmao you idiot.

Tory HQ hard at upvoting again.
Removed
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26/03/2021 15:57:13 7 1
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Screw it. Go to the pub. Have a pint. Go to a football match. Breathe and spit over as many people as you like. Demonstrate how little you care about your fellow man. Humanity is just terrible - we had the opportunity to save the world by staying at home and watching TV but even we managed to screw that up.
26/03/2021 21:50:54 1 0
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No, the ONS do their own sampling.
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JGC
26/03/2021 13:16:22 11 16
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Lots of teenagers that haven't been vaccinated mixing together combined with testing them twice per week when most wern't tested before and hey presto more "cases". But cases don't matter if they are not getting ill.
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26/03/2021 13:18:56 14 7
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Eh? Cases do matter if they transmit onwards to vulnerable people.
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26/03/2021 13:24:41 2 5
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Thought most of the vulnerable were vaccinated. I’m sorry but I can’t keep worrying about Doris who’s 88 down the road everyday. My son education is more important.
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26/03/2021 13:19:08 92 63
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Quick, quick, close all the schools now !

Panic, panic, flap, flap, hide, hide, close the country down immediately.
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26/03/2021 13:22:51 77 36
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The bedwetters will be revving up, demanding your quote is acted on immediately ??
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26/03/2021 13:37:27 14 16
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No one's saying "close all the schools", but an uptick shouldn't be dismissed out of hand or we'll have another wave on our hands before we realize.
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26/03/2021 13:59:28 9 2
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No-one is panicking about it. Get a grip.
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baz
26/03/2021 14:18:16 7 8
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Is that the opposite to slow, slow, delay, pause, skyve a few meetings, give a billion to your mate immediately?

Btw... How big of a flag do you need to cover up 126,000 dead bodies? Asking for a fat friend.
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26/03/2021 16:06:09 8 3
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Yeah! You're right! Screw the teachers and their families! It's their fault for teaching your children! Their lives don't matter because we're all desperate to go to the pub! Me, me, me! Screw what happens to others!

We really are a despicable selfish species.
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26/03/2021 13:19:15 44 36
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More scare mongering by the BBC against a virus that a great proportion of people get over and does not generally affect the young.Move on BBC and start publishing more positive stories
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26/03/2021 13:22:22 48 17
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"a great proportion" of people "get over" food poisoning. Does this mean we should stop asking restaurants to follow food safety standards?

Just because you want positive stories doesn't mean the BBC should stop publishing the ACTUAL stories, be they positive or otherwise.
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26/03/2021 13:22:17 7 8
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well the young spread it
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26/03/2021 13:27:03 12 5
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When did it become the BBC's job to cheerlead for the incumbent government. This is a reported story carried on several networks. It is not offering a value judgement.
I strongly suggest if you cannot deal with reports that deviate from your views then you should stop reading the news and go back to your comics.
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26/03/2021 14:05:28 4 4
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It’s been shown over and over again that although the young don’t generally get sick from this virus when it’s starts spreading in younger age groups there is no way to stop it spreading into older more vulnerable age groups. There is N argument here to vaccinate all secondary school children before September.
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26/03/2021 13:16:31 17 13
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Let’s hope that they don’t take it back to parents, many of whom will not have been vaccinated yet.
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26/03/2021 13:19:15 8 6
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A significant proportion of them will have been. Around 25% of the 16-49 age group have now been vaccinated and many parents, especially of secondary school children, will also be over 50 so it's likely at least 40-50% of parents of secondary school age children have been vaccinated and all the vulnerable ones.
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W 6
26/03/2021 13:19:17 190 42
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Cases are becoming less and less important with every vaccine. We'd never have considered these levels of restrictions for a virus that will most likely give you a few days in bed for the under 50s. Time to start looking at hospital admissions. If they rise to unsustainable levels then there may be cause to delay the roadmap.
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26/03/2021 13:43:45 57 108
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its highly contagious you have to self isolate for 14 days
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26/03/2021 13:50:56 38 20
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This virus is so severe that 1 in 3 people with it don't have any symptoms, so are not even ill! Yet we've locked down for a year over it, crashing the economy and causing untold misery and other health problems. Time to get a grip.
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VoR
26/03/2021 13:57:01 16 23
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Don't forget long Covid. The non-fatigue subset appears to increase your risk from all sorts of nasty conditions
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Sam
26/03/2021 14:06:16 8 19
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If hospital admissions rise to unsustainable levels, it will be too late. The horse won’t have bolted, he will already be in the glue factory.
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xlr
26/03/2021 14:31:02 7 12
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Vaccination well help short term and solve long term, but it is not a magic bullet. People looking at mainland Europe and thinking "Hah, that won't happen to us, we got vaccinated!" are probably going to be angry and disappointed by the time summer comes.
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26/03/2021 15:36:53 4 7
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Yeah let's just risk even more people dying because I can't be arsed looking after my children!

Great idea.

Not.
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26/03/2021 16:26:02 1 2
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But the covidiots will be out and about next week some picking up the virus and bringing it home and spreading it around. We still need to be careful at the moment and watch out for new mutations which the vaccines might be powerless against bringing more hospital admissions. So yes open up but be sensible very sensible and dont become a covidiot
26/03/2021 19:42:10 0 0
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"Cases are becoming less and less important with every vaccine".

Every case means it's still spreading, mutating, and infecting the weak. We get old and weak with age. Immunity fluctuates and wanes with time.
Not everyone becomes immune.

How long do we have immunity from 1 jab, or 2 jabs?

We know infection based immunity drops rapidly after 6months, and might be mostly gone by 9 to 12 months.
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26/03/2021 13:19:19 203 50
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"Have risen slightly", meaning nothing to worry about. Sounds like we should just carrying on with trying to get back to normality.
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26/03/2021 13:36:03 100 259
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Do you want a third wave? Failing to take it seriously again will see our 'world-beating' death rate get out of hand again.
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26/03/2021 13:37:03 6 48
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Unless you are a teacher in the school where an outbreak has occurred - like in our school- your grip on the reality and perspective changes somewhat! CLOSE THEM
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DrR
26/03/2021 13:37:39 14 5
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Yes another non-story from the BBC trying to fill column inches.
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xlr
26/03/2021 14:20:18 6 10
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Exponential growth always starts with a "slight rise". Pretty soon it's precipitous.
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Ric
26/03/2021 14:31:25 3 7
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You clearly don't understand the maths behind exponential growth. It starts off small and then very quickly gets very large.
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26/03/2021 14:37:21 5 0
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As can be seen above despite presence of numerous vaccines and an immense rollout program people still buy into project frar
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26/03/2021 14:55:47 3 5
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"Have risen slightly" means "possible cause for concern", not "nothing to worry about"
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JWS
26/03/2021 13:16:45 8 16
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Nothing to worry about, people are vaccinated.
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26/03/2021 13:18:43 14 5
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I work in a secondary school, have a chronic condition and am not vaccinated - nothing to worry about?
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26/03/2021 13:24:04 1 4
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Why not vaccinated then, that’s chronic!
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JWS
26/03/2021 13:16:45 8 16
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Nothing to worry about, people are vaccinated.
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26/03/2021 13:19:47 7 2
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Not all of them - yet.
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26/03/2021 13:20:02 3 10
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We are coming out smoothly out of this crisis but Tories will invent something just to retain power.
Do not let a good crisis go to waste by Dabya Ch. is written above Pfeffel's bed. His idol. He knows him inside put. Written a book about him.
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JGC
26/03/2021 13:16:22 11 16
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Lots of teenagers that haven't been vaccinated mixing together combined with testing them twice per week when most wern't tested before and hey presto more "cases". But cases don't matter if they are not getting ill.
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26/03/2021 13:20:13 7 2
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They do if they are passing it on to others....
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26/03/2021 13:20:23 27 9
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So no impact at all then really, particularly as tests have more than doubled since schools have gone back, with pupils, teachers and parents testing twice each week.

So, all good.
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26/03/2021 13:25:08 17 1
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But this is a consistent random sample, nothing to do with increasing test numbers.
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26/03/2021 13:20:24 1 23
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CLOSE SCHOOLS
You are either fishing or you are a moron! Removed
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26/03/2021 13:27:02 2 0
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Bore off
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26/03/2021 13:21:08 6 6
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Let the hysteria begin. Anyways, open the golf courses
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26/03/2021 13:25:06 2 1
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Golf is DULL DULL DULL.
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26/03/2021 13:21:49 7 8
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If you test more you will find more, how many are getting ill or needing medical intervention.. I suggest nil.. A other scare story to imprison the population some more...
46
26/03/2021 13:23:30 5 1
bbc
This is the ONS who test the same sized sample. So it isn't skewed by increased testing. It is to be expected however.
48
26/03/2021 13:23:55 1 0
bbc
We have been testing more for the last three weeks. It's not a conspiracy and it's also not a disaster that we should panic over.
32
26/03/2021 13:21:53 3 5
bbc
Quick, lets react disproportionately based on a data fluctuation that is ultimately irrelevant and moot...
33
26/03/2021 13:22:17 4 5
bbc
Wait until that dude from the teachers union gets his teeth around this. If they don’t close the schools on the back of this this he’ll have them on strike.
205
26/03/2021 13:44:46 0 1
bbc
Schools should be open, generally everybody is in agreement with that, education unions included- they have stated this. Will it increase the spread of Covid? Logically yes. Are staff in schools complaining about this? No. If my kid’s teachers hadn’t been in school everyday of every lockdown, I wouldn’t have been able to work in hospital with Covid patients throughout. What part did you play?
13
26/03/2021 13:17:30 49 36
bbc
That's not what the article is about.
34
26/03/2021 13:22:18 14 11
bbc
Well the abscence of a significant rise in infections and deaths and hospitallisations falling means the data shows that we can safely open hospitality.
764
26/03/2021 15:54:44 1 1
bbc
Evidence?
20
26/03/2021 13:19:15 44 36
bbc
More scare mongering by the BBC against a virus that a great proportion of people get over and does not generally affect the young.Move on BBC and start publishing more positive stories
35
26/03/2021 13:22:22 48 17
bbc
"a great proportion" of people "get over" food poisoning. Does this mean we should stop asking restaurants to follow food safety standards?

Just because you want positive stories doesn't mean the BBC should stop publishing the ACTUAL stories, be they positive or otherwise.
82
26/03/2021 13:27:12 8 5
bbc
The equivalent would not be requiring them to follow food standards but rather to ban any and all food outlets.
159
26/03/2021 13:38:13 6 6
bbc
If the trade off was the entire population of the world losing its freedom and civil liberties, a ticking timebomb of undiagnosed or untreated serious illness and mental health issues, kids education being ruined, and people, especially the elderly, suffering and dying alone, then yes, I think we probably should
452
26/03/2021 14:35:40 1 6
bbc
It would be a nice change if the BBC published "the ACTUAL stories" rather than opinion pieces written by unqualified journalists.
16
26/03/2021 13:18:25 3 9
bbc
Range please BBC or ONS

1 in 340 is way too accurate for a statistical estimate based on this small a sample (also not mentioned)

No one is going to be upset by the inevitable inaccuracy

Anyone with a brain knows your artificial accuracy is suspicious
36
26/03/2021 13:22:27 4 1
bbc
Fine.

Instead of 1 in 340, let's use 0.3% - which is a range between 0.25% and 0.34%.

Problem solved :)
37
26/03/2021 13:22:41 6 7
bbc
Here we go, fuel for the Lockdown forever brigade. Forget the massive amount of testing and the fall in deaths, the vaccine roll out etc. Anything to keep us in a state of societal paralysis due to a virus that for the vast majority barely affects.
7
26/03/2021 13:16:31 17 13
bbc
Let’s hope that they don’t take it back to parents, many of whom will not have been vaccinated yet.
38
26/03/2021 13:22:42 2 1
bbc
If they're vulnerable to it they will have been.
7
26/03/2021 13:16:31 17 13
bbc
Let’s hope that they don’t take it back to parents, many of whom will not have been vaccinated yet.
39
26/03/2021 13:22:48 1 4
bbc
Presumably their parents are not 82. So what's the problem.
40
26/03/2021 13:21:32 2 5
bbc
We know schools spread covid...anyone surprised ?

Will be mass school Covid vaccinations by autumn
80
26/03/2021 13:27:03 0 0
bbc
No we don't, schools reflect what happens in the community.
Do you know the difference between correlation and causation?
19
26/03/2021 13:19:08 92 63
bbc
Quick, quick, close all the schools now !

Panic, panic, flap, flap, hide, hide, close the country down immediately.
41
26/03/2021 13:22:51 77 36
bbc
The bedwetters will be revving up, demanding your quote is acted on immediately ??
433
26/03/2021 14:38:50 3 3
bbc
?????? new mattress please!
42
26/03/2021 13:22:54 14 11
bbc
Well, that's the Daily Mail's headline for tomorrow sorted out

"RECKLESS STUDENTS SPREAD COVID"

Will make a nice change to them constantly having a go at Harry, I suppose.
83
26/03/2021 13:27:28 16 2
bbc
Actually since Harry was interviewed by Oprah cases have gone up in schools. Also the EU have threatened to withhold exports of vaccines, that’s no coincidence. He needs to hang his head in shame.
43
26/03/2021 13:23:01 72 10
bbc
So the plan is working ... and every day more people are vaccinated.

Great, I can get my haircut in just over 2 weeks time.
175
26/03/2021 13:39:52 63 11
bbc
If it's anything like mine you are likely to trip over it and end up in A&E - would Covid be to blame?
728
26/03/2021 15:43:56 1 6
bbc
Vaccine doesn't stop you catching & spreading virus. Just protects against serious symptoms, so you going to get your haircut in 2 weeks could kill a lot of people.
Also, only above 50s have been vaccinated. And that's only the first dose out of two. Even after 2nd dose, you have to wait for it to take effect.

Vaccines aren't cures - why are there so many of you Home Professors so clueless??
44
HT
26/03/2021 13:23:03 127 40
bbc
"Uptick". Really? Why have BBC journalism levels stooped so low?
268
26/03/2021 13:59:06 54 7
bbc
uptick, pushback, doubled down, named for... suddenly it’s all over UK journalism!
288
26/03/2021 14:02:07 7 14
bbc
What’s wrong with uptick? It’s a recognised term in scientific communities.
319
26/03/2021 14:08:12 8 1
bbc
'flipside' is another that they use and abuse on a regular basis....
362
xlr
26/03/2021 14:22:14 4 4
bbc
It has risen at above current infection trend with a statistical confidence of 95% assuming a Gaussian distribution.

Uptick is quicker.
389
26/03/2021 14:27:50 4 1
bbc
Just means "a small increase or slight upward trend" but conversely it is of North American origin so that is certainly be a factor that should influence a British company using it.
503
26/03/2021 14:52:41 2 8
bbc
What headline would you use HT ?Enlighten us with your journalistic skills.
574
26/03/2021 15:09:41 8 0
bbc
Perhaps its because the "journalists" can't spell incrase...er, increeze..er, increaze..er, oh yeah, "increase"!, that's it!
587
26/03/2021 15:11:48 3 1
bbc
It doesn't sound as bad as "an increase" in cases
644
26/03/2021 15:25:12 5 0
bbc
Don't forget the absolutely crass "Roadmap"
736
26/03/2021 15:45:28 5 3
bbc
Because they are paid by the license fee payers to talk rubbish
757
26/03/2021 15:52:29 2 2
bbc
Well, Media Studies is the easiest degree to get ;-)
26/03/2021 19:06:57 2 0
bbc
The worst being "slash" and "hike" when what they really mean is a slight drop and a small rise.
26/03/2021 20:51:10 2 0
bbc
What? The BBC employ Journalists? Since when?
26/03/2021 21:09:58 0 0
bbc
As long as they keep "across" things
45
26/03/2021 13:23:20 1 8
bbc
Weren't we told that Covid didnt affect children or was that just a lie to 'safely' re-open schools and nurseries..... Schools have systems in place to limit the spread, the problem now is with those, obsinate young and old who dont follow the rules and mix regardless
71
26/03/2021 13:26:14 2 1
bbc
Bore off now. Don’t you have any friends you want to see or live your life again
31
26/03/2021 13:21:49 7 8
bbc
If you test more you will find more, how many are getting ill or needing medical intervention.. I suggest nil.. A other scare story to imprison the population some more...
46
26/03/2021 13:23:30 5 1
bbc
This is the ONS who test the same sized sample. So it isn't skewed by increased testing. It is to be expected however.
29
26/03/2021 13:20:24 1 23
bbc
CLOSE SCHOOLS
You are either fishing or you are a moron! Removed
31
26/03/2021 13:21:49 7 8
bbc
If you test more you will find more, how many are getting ill or needing medical intervention.. I suggest nil.. A other scare story to imprison the population some more...
48
26/03/2021 13:23:55 1 0
bbc
We have been testing more for the last three weeks. It's not a conspiracy and it's also not a disaster that we should panic over.
49
26/03/2021 13:23:59 2 3
bbc
What the hell is an uptick? Is there a downtick?
86
IJB
26/03/2021 13:27:52 0 1
bbc
It's worth paying the license fee for this quality use of the English language ?????
24
26/03/2021 13:18:43 14 5
bbc
I work in a secondary school, have a chronic condition and am not vaccinated - nothing to worry about?
50
26/03/2021 13:24:04 1 4
bbc
Why not vaccinated then, that’s chronic!
224
26/03/2021 13:48:53 1 1
bbc
NHS don't include my condition in the priority group however, I am very likely to suffer the effects of long covid if I was to get the virus - don't judge!
51
bbc
So, nothing to look at here, but meanwhile, no HYS on Batley Grammar School.
Maybe Auntie should do some Bitesize creationism and intelligent design pages?
A group of thugs intimidate a school but no discussion from the Beeb about there needing to be arrests or that they're basically extremists!
Sort your priorities out Auntie, you won't bring in much license money when only the SNP want you!
Removed
118
26/03/2021 13:32:37 25 3
bbc
We know why
213
26/03/2021 13:46:19 4 1
bbc
You can behave however you want, as long as you're not white working class. When will the most downtrodden part of society rebel? Considering that cohort is the majority of the country.
219
26/03/2021 13:47:09 1 0
bbc
I cant believe your post wasn't censored, I did the same when the BBC had HYS on cat food but completely ignored the Harry and Megan saga on the same day and every post was removed
235
26/03/2021 13:52:54 1 2
bbc
You're right Calum - we need to discuss how groups of extremists (religious and white supremacists) can be allowed to intimidate a school in this way
244
VoR
26/03/2021 13:55:07 0 0
bbc
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about something entirely unrelated to this article.
266
26/03/2021 13:58:47 0 0
bbc
Dont know what the fuss about Bately GS is, both main religons are nothing less than perpetual fake news, Fac,t not one word of it can be proven, I mean one bloke fed 5000 people with 5 fishes and 2 loaves of bread.
273
26/03/2021 13:59:39 0 0
bbc
It seems it’s now ok to intimidate kids at school and brandish knives in public. Disgraceful.
1
dan
26/03/2021 13:13:51 10 14
bbc
does a positive test mean a case? Are they unwell?
52
26/03/2021 13:24:13 3 1
bbc
Its means they have the virus and most will have no symptoms at all which is why testing is important as they can/will spread it unwittingly. At least its levelling off now with no increase in hospital admissions or sadly death. Fingers crossed everyone
20
26/03/2021 13:19:15 44 36
bbc
More scare mongering by the BBC against a virus that a great proportion of people get over and does not generally affect the young.Move on BBC and start publishing more positive stories
53
26/03/2021 13:22:17 7 8
bbc
well the young spread it
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jki
26/03/2021 15:06:13 1 5
bbc
Evidence?
11
26/03/2021 13:17:27 493 54
bbc
With vaccine doses now given to around 55% of adults, covering nearly everyone most vulnerable to death and/or hospitalisation, the link is being broken between these and infections.

Like with other respiratory viruses, we must accept risk will never be zero and ensure a balance between covid and non-covid health risks is reached.
54
26/03/2021 13:22:55 32 64
bbc
good opportunity to reduce cold flus and covid
88
26/03/2021 13:27:58 38 7
bbc
Issue is that the damage to length and quality of life from taking this 'opportunity' would outweigh the gains by orders of magnitude
55
26/03/2021 13:23:01 4 6
bbc
So what? We know kids aren't affected. No doubt will be used by the respective government's to keep us locked up.
77
26/03/2021 13:25:35 3 1
bbc
they are super spreaders
167
26/03/2021 13:39:05 1 0
bbc
Some kids are affected, and they're capable of spreading it to others.
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JWS
26/03/2021 13:16:45 8 16
bbc
Nothing to worry about, people are vaccinated.
56
26/03/2021 13:23:16 1 1
bbc
no schools are not vaccinated yet for covid that is coming soon
57
26/03/2021 13:24:30 5 3
bbc
Who’d have thought it?
18
26/03/2021 13:18:56 14 7
bbc
Eh? Cases do matter if they transmit onwards to vulnerable people.
58
26/03/2021 13:24:41 2 5
bbc
Thought most of the vulnerable were vaccinated. I’m sorry but I can’t keep worrying about Doris who’s 88 down the road everyday. My son education is more important.
14
26/03/2021 13:18:10 12 7
bbc
The word "estimates" is used in this article twice. Says a lot.
59
NM
26/03/2021 13:24:55 8 1
bbc
Are you expecting that they test every single person to ensure that it's not an estimate?
114
26/03/2021 13:32:12 1 1
bbc
Have to fill in ONS forms at work, and they're usually legal obligations. Since they're using real historical data they shouldn't be estimating anything.

If they were forecasting, different matter but they're not. They're simply reporting actual numbers.
488
26/03/2021 14:49:05 1 0
bbc
In a word yes
30
26/03/2021 13:21:08 6 6
bbc
Let the hysteria begin. Anyways, open the golf courses
60
26/03/2021 13:25:06 2 1
bbc
Golf is DULL DULL DULL.
28
26/03/2021 13:20:23 27 9
bbc
So no impact at all then really, particularly as tests have more than doubled since schools have gone back, with pupils, teachers and parents testing twice each week.

So, all good.
61
26/03/2021 13:25:08 17 1
bbc
But this is a consistent random sample, nothing to do with increasing test numbers.
877
26/03/2021 16:27:03 0 0
bbc
True, but it backs up the official daily figures that have settled around 6k per day for the last couple of weeks.
62
26/03/2021 13:25:12 7 3
bbc
More sun so more Vit D things will get better
108
26/03/2021 13:31:12 1 2
bbc
Thanks mr researcher- if only we’d all
just dosed up on vitamin D...

Second helping of mushroom stoganov please....

ps leaving mushrooms in the sun (UV) before using them boosts their Vit.D level
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JB
26/03/2021 13:25:14 336 20
bbc
Cases will go up in the next few weeks. That is to be expected as more people mix and schools have re-opened.

Lockdowns were in place to protect those most vulnerable and ensure that the NHS is not overwhelmed due to the admission of patients.

The vaccine protects the elderly and vulnerable now.

Cases are not the key metric moving forward, it is hospital admissions (and deaths).
170
26/03/2021 13:39:31 115 13
bbc
Since treatments have improved, hospital admissions is the only true metric we can use
253
26/03/2021 13:57:37 27 4
bbc
And all this data is freely available from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Deaths down 31% in a week
Hospital admissions down 18%
People in hospital down 21% (England only as figures most up to date)
8.5 million test conducted in the last week (that's around 12% of the population)
Yet people still concerned that 0.3% have a virus that most of the country has some form of protection against
349
26/03/2021 14:15:32 16 9
bbc
You are indeed right that cases are no longer the key metric, but catching it is still not a walk in the park - the parents of most school children, being under 50, are now key Covid targets themselves, as well as having to self-isolate if their children do test positive. As parents gather outside school gates they'd be sensible not to drop their guard.
409
26/03/2021 14:32:29 9 27
bbc
You may not die of it, but you may have a living death with Long Covid instead.
670
26/03/2021 15:31:28 10 2
bbc
The key metric seems to change to suit as we go along. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the longer it goes on, the more it's difficult not to question certain things. At this point there's no good reason for lockdown to be as severe as it currently is, all it's doing is causing unnecessary misery. Look at the 5 level thing, we're basically between 3 and 2, whilst level 1 is almost impossible...
695
26/03/2021 15:35:31 12 6
bbc
Not even hospital admissions.

Now that the vulnerable are vaccinated there is no other solution on the horizon.

They've shot their load.

So if hospitals start to get full now, the solution is to expand hospitals, not act like a bunch of Nazi's.

We go back to normal lives and build more intensive care beds/train more ICU nurses.

It's cheaper than the total destruction of our economy.
696
26/03/2021 15:35:57 8 12
bbc
It doesn't though, as all had 1st jab. Only 2nd jab gives full protection and that is way after they've actually had it.

Once again boys and girls, comments made by the clueless because they're bored at home and can't be arsed about looking after their kids.
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DPG
26/03/2021 17:10:59 2 2
bbc
Agree that it will be necessary to live with some levels of COVID as per flu. Just a note of caution, though: greater infection numbers means higher likelihood of vaccine-resistant variants developing. So vaccines for the vulnerable do not justify a gung-ho approach.
26/03/2021 17:49:16 1 2
bbc
"The vaccine protects the elderly and vulnerable now."
Really? You are a medical expert then?
The fact that it takes weeks to take effect and many have not yet had their vital second jab is a!so immaterial is it?
26/03/2021 18:52:54 1 2
bbc
Cases ARE a critical metric - double the cases and you quadruple the opportunities for variants (it's a slightly more complex formula than that, but you get the drift) - and a variant could very easily be much much more serious.

This isn't like flu viruses, or even other coronaviruses - remember that!
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26/03/2021 13:25:25 63 14
bbc
Dear BBC, please update the article with the actual figure for the "slight" change in secondary school-age children.
774
26/03/2021 15:56:35 1 1
bbc
Well, dahh!
65
26/03/2021 13:25:28 4 8
bbc
The page showing the latest updates shows the infection rates in children is around 0.5% which is equivalent to 500 per 100,000 which is much higher than the rate for other groups. Interesting they are reporting it in a different way - are they trying to hide how high the school children rates are ?
97
26/03/2021 13:29:21 4 2
bbc
By engineer, do you mean mechanic or brickie?
98
26/03/2021 13:29:37 1 1
bbc
Stop your moaning. What the point in the vaccine is we are worrying about cases?
142
26/03/2021 13:36:49 0 0
bbc
They also report ca 0.3% in England: aka 300 in 100 000
I too do not like the different reporting methods. Worried that the BBC does not put everything into the main unit reported sd it seems to with salaries (£ € $)
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26/03/2021 13:17:27 493 54
bbc
With vaccine doses now given to around 55% of adults, covering nearly everyone most vulnerable to death and/or hospitalisation, the link is being broken between these and infections.

Like with other respiratory viruses, we must accept risk will never be zero and ensure a balance between covid and non-covid health risks is reached.
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W 6
26/03/2021 13:25:42 93 21
bbc
Absolutely right. I remember the days when lockdown was to stop hospitals from collapsing. NHS is well and truly saved, can we have our lives back now?
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26/03/2021 13:30:13 39 31
bbc
Yes a lot of people have had the first vaccination. but they aren't fully vaccinated until they get the second jab. We can ease the restrictions over the next 12 weeks as we are and i'm sure we will have a much better time.
414
26/03/2021 14:34:17 8 11
bbc
Lockdown has prevented hospitals reaching capacity+ by limiting infection rates. Remove lockdown, infection rates rise, hospitals go into crises due to third wave and another hard lockdown needed.
645
26/03/2021 15:25:35 6 6
bbc
Hi! You don't get infections do you? The risk of it MUTATING into something else is still massively high. The NHS isn't safe YET. Just stay at home, wait a little longer and the pub will be open again ok??
802
26/03/2021 16:02:05 3 3
bbc
still far too soon. just look at the rest of the world
7
26/03/2021 13:16:31 17 13
bbc
Let’s hope that they don’t take it back to parents, many of whom will not have been vaccinated yet.
67
26/03/2021 13:23:44 2 1
bbc
yeah their parents haven't been vaccinated as most are not in the age group yet
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JGC
26/03/2021 13:16:22 11 16
bbc
Lots of teenagers that haven't been vaccinated mixing together combined with testing them twice per week when most wern't tested before and hey presto more "cases". But cases don't matter if they are not getting ill.
68
26/03/2021 13:24:26 0 0
bbc
alot of EU students at British schools too back from trip to EU
16
26/03/2021 13:18:25 3 9
bbc
Range please BBC or ONS

1 in 340 is way too accurate for a statistical estimate based on this small a sample (also not mentioned)

No one is going to be upset by the inevitable inaccuracy

Anyone with a brain knows your artificial accuracy is suspicious
69
26/03/2021 13:26:00 1 1
bbc
The ONS do put a range on this and it's the BBC that are lazy

Essentially the figures for Wales, Scotland (imho this one ONS own up to the other 2) and NI are really too inaccurate to quote or be useful

England is 1 in 300 to 380 which is within the range of the last 3 weeks so may mean nothing

The sample sizes really aren't big enough as the virus reduces incidence in the population
16
26/03/2021 13:18:25 3 9
bbc
Range please BBC or ONS

1 in 340 is way too accurate for a statistical estimate based on this small a sample (also not mentioned)

No one is going to be upset by the inevitable inaccuracy

Anyone with a brain knows your artificial accuracy is suspicious
70
26/03/2021 13:26:04 4 0
bbc
Read the ONS report then.

"162,500 people within the community population in England had COVID-19 (95% credible interval: 143,200 to 183,100), equating to around 1 in 340 people."
45
26/03/2021 13:23:20 1 8
bbc
Weren't we told that Covid didnt affect children or was that just a lie to 'safely' re-open schools and nurseries..... Schools have systems in place to limit the spread, the problem now is with those, obsinate young and old who dont follow the rules and mix regardless
71
26/03/2021 13:26:14 2 1
bbc
Bore off now. Don’t you have any friends you want to see or live your life again
92
26/03/2021 13:28:50 0 0
bbc
No I am a recluse that spends my life in a dark room with just a laptop for company - what's your excuse !
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TMS
26/03/2021 13:26:36 20 5
bbc
Surely this is a good thing , nearly all the oldies have now had their jab and should have some sort of protection ..... The young ones catch it at school increasing herd immunity and are unlikely to suffer any problems ..quids in jobs a good un
100
26/03/2021 13:30:06 9 14
bbc
The trouble is that vaccination only reduces the risk of infection / transmission by between 1/3 and 1/2. Factor in that the R rate without controls is estimated to be about 5 means vaccination even if all are vaccinated is not enough.
221
26/03/2021 13:46:06 1 5
bbc
no such thing as Herd immunity. Covid has mutated
14
26/03/2021 13:18:10 12 7
bbc
The word "estimates" is used in this article twice. Says a lot.
73
26/03/2021 13:26:47 3 0
bbc
But it’s the ONS which is doing the estimating, not the author of the article.

If the Office of National Statistics makes an estimate, we should assume it’s an accurate one, based on data and analysis.
74
26/03/2021 13:24:39 6 4
bbc
This metric has very little value. If you are using a statistic about a group that are essentially unaffected by covid to produce policy, you have got it wrong.
132
26/03/2021 13:35:49 5 3
bbc
They may be 'unaffected' but they can get infected and pass it on. The rate in children is 500 per 100,000 (from the BBC page) higher than the rate of 1 in 330 in the general population. No vaccination of children to reduce the rate either.
4
26/03/2021 13:15:57 63 59
bbc
Open the Pubs.
75
26/03/2021 13:24:44 8 13
bbc
no way pubs is where people socialise
124
26/03/2021 13:33:53 12 3
bbc
I think that's the idea.....
76
26/03/2021 13:24:59 103 21
bbc
We're continually testing millions of children and there's a 'slight uptick' in recorded cases in their age group. Well, I'd never have expected that. What, exactly, is the point of this 'news' story?

More importantly, what's the shift in the test to positive ratio? Oh hang on, that would sound a bit too much like balanced journalism.
445
26/03/2021 14:39:53 39 18
bbc
Now steady on there with your reasonable comment - what will the bed wetters think?!
55
26/03/2021 13:23:01 4 6
bbc
So what? We know kids aren't affected. No doubt will be used by the respective government's to keep us locked up.
77
26/03/2021 13:25:35 3 1
bbc
they are super spreaders
122
26/03/2021 13:33:41 0 0
bbc
importantly the parents of kids are not vaccinated. so it is important that kids don't spread it too much.
283
26/03/2021 14:01:14 0 0
bbc
Oh well done for deploying some tabloid concocted meaningless phrase.
78
26/03/2021 13:26:55 113 19
bbc
Cases amongst school children were bound to rise, none are vaccinated and they are socialising. Add in that there is far more testing and this was inevitable. The difference this time is that secondary kids are not going home and passing it on to vulnerable people. Cases will go up again when the Uni’s go back full time. Cases are not the metric, the only Metric is hospital admissions!
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VoR
26/03/2021 13:58:27 31 62
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But not all hospital admissions are immediate. Covid can increase your risk of future admissions.
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26/03/2021 15:08:28 7 3
bbc
Few parents will have been vaccinated yet
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26/03/2021 15:22:32 11 3
bbc
Most parents will be under 50, so won't be vaccinated - they're therefore at risk of catching Covid.

But on the flipside, most parents are under 50, so if they do catch Covid it will be extremely unlikely they will be hospitalized let alone die from it.
707
26/03/2021 15:38:40 4 9
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A vaccine doesnt stop you catching and spreading covid.

What is it with people on HYS not being able to grasp this?

We are also definately going to have a third wave, because the longevity of the jab is unknown, it is inevitable so we need to prepare for that. Vacinate EVERY adult with two jabs then keep social distancing measures within reason. Its not difficult to understand.
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26/03/2021 13:20:24 1 23
bbc
CLOSE SCHOOLS
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26/03/2021 13:27:02 2 0
bbc
Bore off
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26/03/2021 13:32:23 1 3
bbc
No I will make my stand, I do not consent to you cancelling me.

An increase in infections leads to an increase in death.

Schools must close immediately
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26/03/2021 13:21:32 2 5
bbc
We know schools spread covid...anyone surprised ?

Will be mass school Covid vaccinations by autumn
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26/03/2021 13:27:03 0 0
bbc
No we don't, schools reflect what happens in the community.
Do you know the difference between correlation and causation?
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26/03/2021 13:19:15 44 36
bbc
More scare mongering by the BBC against a virus that a great proportion of people get over and does not generally affect the young.Move on BBC and start publishing more positive stories
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26/03/2021 13:27:03 12 5
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When did it become the BBC's job to cheerlead for the incumbent government. This is a reported story carried on several networks. It is not offering a value judgement.
I strongly suggest if you cannot deal with reports that deviate from your views then you should stop reading the news and go back to your comics.
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26/03/2021 13:22:22 48 17
bbc
"a great proportion" of people "get over" food poisoning. Does this mean we should stop asking restaurants to follow food safety standards?

Just because you want positive stories doesn't mean the BBC should stop publishing the ACTUAL stories, be they positive or otherwise.
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26/03/2021 13:27:12 8 5
bbc
The equivalent would not be requiring them to follow food standards but rather to ban any and all food outlets.
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26/03/2021 13:32:21 8 6
bbc
According to a YouGov poll, 86% of people think banning all food outlets "does not go far enough". We need to ban all food and implement a ZeroFood policy or else we will never be safe.
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26/03/2021 13:22:54 14 11
bbc
Well, that's the Daily Mail's headline for tomorrow sorted out

"RECKLESS STUDENTS SPREAD COVID"

Will make a nice change to them constantly having a go at Harry, I suppose.
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26/03/2021 13:27:28 16 2
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Actually since Harry was interviewed by Oprah cases have gone up in schools. Also the EU have threatened to withhold exports of vaccines, that’s no coincidence. He needs to hang his head in shame.
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26/03/2021 13:40:57 2 0
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Comment of the week!
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26/03/2021 14:06:10 1 1
bbc
Plot and lost comes to mind here !!
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26/03/2021 13:27:41 13 7
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a slight up tick

let us not forget this virus started with 1 person and has now infected over 126 million people .from that staring point .

I do question what is the point of lock downs if you do not test 1 single person arriving
at UK ports out of the 30'000 that arrive a day
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26/03/2021 13:26:50 2 4
bbc
When the new school year starts this autumn the vaccines will be ready to mass vaccinate at schools
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26/03/2021 13:23:59 2 3
bbc
What the hell is an uptick? Is there a downtick?
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IJB
26/03/2021 13:27:52 0 1
bbc
It's worth paying the license fee for this quality use of the English language ?????
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26/03/2021 13:27:57 0 7
bbc
I think the next set of Vaccinations to the under 50's should be on risk of exposure, either you are at school and exposed to lots of other older kids, you still work in an office or in the service industry or you have had lots of "hits" on the NHS app. There are a great many 20-50 year olds who will keep themselves to themselves and should be to the back of the queue.
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26/03/2021 13:22:55 32 64
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good opportunity to reduce cold flus and covid
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26/03/2021 13:27:58 38 7
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Issue is that the damage to length and quality of life from taking this 'opportunity' would outweigh the gains by orders of magnitude
643
26/03/2021 15:25:09 1 3
bbc
Not to mention the rocketing cases of serious allergies that would occur if we lived in such a near sterile environment.
Cases amongst young children are already bad enough as it is.
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26/03/2021 13:28:03 36 6
bbc
I thought this was the plan. It was going to go up but that’s why we eased it first as to help control.

Why is it containment and controlling replaced by zero cases ever? People will get this disease for decades yet
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26/03/2021 14:06:39 17 15
bbc
I haven’t seen anyone expect Nicola Sturgeon and New Zealand claim that they are aiming for zero Covid.
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26/03/2021 13:28:24 2 9
bbc
And Boris said this wouldn't happen..wrong again
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26/03/2021 13:29:58 5 1
bbc
Wrong, he said it would be expected and a risk we have to take
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26/03/2021 13:31:17 2 0
bbc
Did he, did he really or did you just make it up!
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26/03/2021 13:28:49 10 3
bbc
Walked the dog yesterday ~ 6 pm -

The secondary school playing field had large groups of students eating, drinking, etc. This am its covered in cans, broken glass, wrappers, burned out campfires, ...

Clearly for those students they'd had enough of the 'Stay At Home'
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26/03/2021 13:26:14 2 1
bbc
Bore off now. Don’t you have any friends you want to see or live your life again
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26/03/2021 13:28:50 0 0
bbc
No I am a recluse that spends my life in a dark room with just a laptop for company - what's your excuse !
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26/03/2021 13:29:08 9 7
bbc
Ridiculous article from the BBC yet again. A slight uptick which is actually very good as it means no major outbreak. And anyway, most vulnerable have had one or two jabs so they will not be affected
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26/03/2021 13:32:33 5 1
bbc
What's ridiculous about it? Genuinely curious. It's quite literally just a summary of the ONS infection statistics, reporting both increases and decreases of infections in various school-aged groups. How you interpret those facts is up to you and nothing to do with the BBC. Time to take responsibility and think of the bigger picture rather than in black and white.
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26/03/2021 13:29:10 3 4
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Have the government relaxed the lockdown too soon? We know that schools played a large role in spreading the virus from the last wave. Has the vaccination program immunised enough people so that the NHS won't become overwhelmed?
How big will the third wave be?
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26/03/2021 13:31:34 2 2
bbc
Incorrect the second wave was nothing to do with schools, it had everything to do with people not following the rules especially those who thought going to illegal raves over christmas and new year was acceptable
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26/03/2021 13:32:31 0 1
bbc
No the vaccine is not effective enough to stop transmission & infection even if all the population including children are vaccinated.
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dan
26/03/2021 13:13:51 10 14
bbc
does a positive test mean a case? Are they unwell?
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26/03/2021 13:29:13 0 2
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Give them all a hundred lines
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26/03/2021 13:29:19 7 5
bbc
"the ONS estimates" That's a new one on me. Since when have they started doing estimates? Are they doing it with a fag in their mouth?
Oh look some school children mixing with other school children and teachers are producing rising levels of Covid. Who'd have thought?
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26/03/2021 13:32:09 7 0
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Erm, they’ve been estimate the rates from the beginning (using their sampling process)
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26/03/2021 13:25:28 4 8
bbc
The page showing the latest updates shows the infection rates in children is around 0.5% which is equivalent to 500 per 100,000 which is much higher than the rate for other groups. Interesting they are reporting it in a different way - are they trying to hide how high the school children rates are ?
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26/03/2021 13:29:21 4 2
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By engineer, do you mean mechanic or brickie?
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26/03/2021 13:36:35 0 2
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No - a qualified engineer now retired
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26/03/2021 13:25:28 4 8
bbc
The page showing the latest updates shows the infection rates in children is around 0.5% which is equivalent to 500 per 100,000 which is much higher than the rate for other groups. Interesting they are reporting it in a different way - are they trying to hide how high the school children rates are ?
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26/03/2021 13:29:37 1 1
bbc
Stop your moaning. What the point in the vaccine is we are worrying about cases?
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26/03/2021 13:28:24 2 9
bbc
And Boris said this wouldn't happen..wrong again
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26/03/2021 13:29:58 5 1
bbc
Wrong, he said it would be expected and a risk we have to take
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TMS
26/03/2021 13:26:36 20 5
bbc
Surely this is a good thing , nearly all the oldies have now had their jab and should have some sort of protection ..... The young ones catch it at school increasing herd immunity and are unlikely to suffer any problems ..quids in jobs a good un
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26/03/2021 13:30:06 9 14
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The trouble is that vaccination only reduces the risk of infection / transmission by between 1/3 and 1/2. Factor in that the R rate without controls is estimated to be about 5 means vaccination even if all are vaccinated is not enough.
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TMS
26/03/2021 13:46:24 4 1
bbc
Thanks for sharing that bit of positive news with everyone , any suggestions how we get our lives back to normal or are you just a bearer of bad news . Your not an engineer for the BBC by any chance