Coronavirus: Germany tightens borders amid alarm over pandemic
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France is to be classed a "high-risk" area as Germans are warned of a possible 100,000 infections a day.
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More scaremongering, getting so boring now.
Oh the irony after nearly five years of 'Project Fear'!
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"Negative tests will also be required for airport arrivals from Tuesday."
Why not from today?
Why not from today?
More to the point why are they making everywhere outside the EU go into quarantine as well? This makes no sense. Compare the UK 6000+ cases yesterday vs France 45000+ cases. From the UK its a negative test and quarantine but France is just a negative test, which they may check you have had. This is no time for EU freedom of travel if you are serious about public health.
So Boris' Dad can go visit his holiday home (again) without any inconvenience or extra expense.
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people need time to find where they can obtain the test, especially as it needs to be done 72 hours prior to flight
Germany is significantly larger than the UK and initially had far fewer cases. Even with our measures we saw well in excess of 100,000 cases a day after Xmas. I'd say the German estimate of 100,000 is conservative. It COULD be twice that.
Fortunately for the Germans the country is nowhere near as densely populated as the UK, England in particular. This might help them keep it lower than our worst time.
I wonder how many tests Germany does compared to the UK?
The UK had a peak of 68,053 test cases on the 8th January 2021.
Germany had a peak of 31,553 test cases on 18th Dec 2020.
The UK's rate of testing is 3.02 times that of Germany's.
Neither country will be detecting all cases; Germany will be detecting far less than the UK.
Germany had a peak of 31,553 test cases on 18th Dec 2020.
The UK's rate of testing is 3.02 times that of Germany's.
Neither country will be detecting all cases; Germany will be detecting far less than the UK.
Well if the EU hadn’t been so stupid and put millions of lives in danger the there wouldn’t have been an issue
Perhaps you can explain what the EU should have done to NOT put millions of lives in danger? Magic more vaccine out of thin air? Blocked vaccine exports to the UK & immunised more of their own? Also the EU isn't Germany despite the confusion on HYS.
How come the Germans are lagging behind? They're usually so efficient (ignoring Berlin Airport) May be it's something to do with the EU. I bet they're pleased they have to prop it up with their hard earned cash
The EU is Germany by proxy.
The southern member countries will need continuous bailing out now. Not sure how long the German tax payers/voters will put up with that! It is a shame that the EU made such a fiasco of the vaccines, Europe as a whole, including the UK, was looking like getting on top of the virus.
I though they had done a side deal with Pfizer for an extra 30 million doses outside the EU scheme.
Why are they not using those ?
Why are they not using those ?
Reports are they've bypassed the EU and ordered extra vaccines on the QT.
Exactly - I would have expected Germany to be leading the way. Hopefully they get things quickly under control and cab reduce the effect of a third wave.
Praying for our dear friends and neighbours in Germany. Love from Warsaw ??????????
That'll do a lot of good.
Let’s hope our European friends can get this under control and that we all enjoy a summer without needing restrictions
Not a hope in hell ... even 2022 looks iffy
Let’s also hope that Germany and France can get this under control, as well as our European friends.
How can you call them friends? They are not exactly behaving in a friendly manner. They have failed to manage a crisis and now try to blame the UK and anyone else except themselves. In a word the entire EU Commission is made up of a group of unelected, useless people occupying space that could be better utilised.
They are not our friends. When the chips are down it’s every country for itself. EU is a duplicitous organisation and can never be trusted. We need to reduce dependency on EU countries ASAP. We must be self sufficient in as much as possible. Why do we import millions of Dutch tomatoes in winter when we can grow them here in greenhouses? And Holland is colder than GB in winter. Madness.
Friends? Yes, the vast majority of the populations of the EU Member States are our friends, but their leaders, e.g. Macron, are definitely NOT friends. Remember that!
No chance of UK restrictions being removed for this summer with vaccination only reducing the infection / transmission rate by about 1/2. With the R number without restrictions estimated to be 5 vaccination of all people will only reduce the R number to 2.5 and we all know what that means.
Why is the BBC obsessed with reporting vaccination rates in the EU? Grow up, it is not a competition and only sows discord.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
They are doing it because the EU's and it's members utter incompetence with their vaccination program. It is a real danger that it will affect us, who got our act together early.
Foolish Bobby, the success or otherwise of the EU in vaccination has an impact on our own returns to full normality.
Such a pity to see Germany experiencing this upsurge. They handled the first phase so well monitored closely by the respected The Robert Koch Institute.
They did better in the early part of the pandemic because the virus was introduced into their country mainly by young people returning from ski resorts.
We had a worse situation in the U.K. with the virus being seeded wildly across the country.
As infections have now spread wider in Germany it now shows they are in fact no better than any other western nation.
We had a worse situation in the U.K. with the virus being seeded wildly across the country.
As infections have now spread wider in Germany it now shows they are in fact no better than any other western nation.
I hope the UK takes note of how fast case numbers can rise and not rush to unlock too quickly.
We had large numbers and we started the vaccination process 2 months before they did and even now have hardly started to really get going. They were vaccinating the over 70s here in January.
And yet the German Govt. is unconcerned about the large numbers of German tourists heading overseas to eg, the Balearics, many of them potential spreaders.
Another good reason why Brits should not be going to the same places.
Correct. Over 8,000 have already headed to Majorca for the Easter holidays. Utter stupidity.
Germans are pre programmed to cross borders into other Countries whether they are allowed to or not.
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And the German infection rate at 100/100000 that means that precisely 8 of those 8000 tourists will be carrying a virus with a 0.3% death rate in the unvaccinated population and 0.0% in the vaccinated.
Not exactly The Black Death is it?
Not exactly The Black Death is it?
i love the lingo "potential spreaders " Get a grip its a virus we do not control it.. it did not kill anyone writing comments on here today or many many other people in fact has anyone noticed the sheer amount of people who have simply NOT died of coronavirus ,its sort of slipped off the radar
rubbish there is a travel warning and appeal not to travel (you cannot stay in any hotel in Germany) and there are moves to ban oversease travel but that has to be legally checked whether constitutional to do so.
Just where is the much vaunted German efficiency. We had plenty of experience of that during the war..Oradour, Le Paradis, Babi Yar,Malmedy just for starters
Stay strong and stay safe to all our friends over in Europe and around the World.
And take your safe Astra Zeneca vaccine and don't listen to your politicians.
We're greedy and won't distribute around the world. Sorry. It's called the UK...
Yes and dont lets fall for all the divisive tactics coming from the Eurocrats . We the people need to stand together and refuse to be divided . Its a strategy as old as the hills . Get the people to hate and blame each other whilst the Eurocrats fail on all points.
Nice, one gets the feeling Brits like seeing europeans die like flies reading comments here
Razz, it's not the people in Europe we have an issue with, just the idiotic EU.
This pandemic will be tamed by sovereign governments and not by contrived, artificial bureaucratic modelling.
Great comment
Well if the EU hadn’t been so stupid and put millions of lives in danger the there wouldn’t have been an issue
Oh, I dunno' Not messed about on price. Built factories and infrastructure, not spread panic about vaccine side effects...that sort of thing.
Crikey that isn’t difficult. They should have got their collective finger out and formed ‘joint ventures’ with the vaccine companies to produce a solution at cost. This is what the UK Gov did with AZ. EU signed a commercial agreement with no funding. Stopped criticising the AZ vaccine, and for once put their citizens first, not their own political interests. EU always was, and is a disaster.
Probably ordered the vaccines on time
Oh and not discouraged people from taking it
Cut out the scaremongering about the AZ vaccine for a start, also use the supplies that they already have?
For a start, use the vaccine doses they have. They are doing no good in fridges. And focus on the problem and not on deflecting blame.
Ordered more vaccines earlier and put more money into the R&D and supply chains like the U.K. and the USA did.
It was reported that France and Germany wanted to form a consortium with the UK to produce vaccines but the EU stepped in to veto it , Wanting to drive the price down by collective bargaining the result was a 3-month delay in placing orders. It's worth noting that the AZ vaccine that France and Germany appear not to want because it was derived from Oxford UK is produced at cost price about £3 .
They should have been organised earlier. Signing deals three week later the the UK is very slow.
They should have helped set up Astra production facilities, and had a quick route to sign them off.
They should not have disrespected Astra and their vaccine. None of it has been proved to be true. But it has undervalued the vaccine.
They didn’t lock down early enough. We know a lot about that.
They should have helped set up Astra production facilities, and had a quick route to sign them off.
They should not have disrespected Astra and their vaccine. None of it has been proved to be true. But it has undervalued the vaccine.
They didn’t lock down early enough. We know a lot about that.
For one thing, not pretending that the oxford vaccine was suspect, I’ve read that Denmark are not going to use it for 3 weeks while they see if it’s causing blood clots. The tragic thing is that it was a political move not backed by their own health people. Now with a lower acceptance rate, it’s backfiring on them.
They could and should have done what today they claim they will do going forward. Work collectively with all parties to ensure a greater supply of vaccine for everyone. The EU is good at some things but not complex global supply chains. That has been obvious for years.
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The EU is lead by what Germany wants though - it is by far the biggest financial contributor now that the UK has left and holds a lot of sway
Why did it take the EU 3 months longer than the UK to place orders for the vaccines. Why did France insist that one of the vaccines was from a French company (sanofi) that failed to produce a vaccine. Answer those questions and you will find the answers to your questions!
The Eu is Germany- they run it and even levered in their failed defense minister as president when she wasn't even on the shortlist!
They could have used the tens of millions of vaccines sat on shelves, that would have been a start. Italy just found millions sat doing nothing in a factory...
Perhaps ordering the stuff rather than banking on the failed French vaccine would have helped. Victims of their own protectionism.
Stop talking nonsense about the Oxford AZ jab would be a start
- Used all the vaccines at their disposal, something they are still not doing
- Taken a higher risk approach and ordered more from more suppliers
- Started planning when the UK did, March 2020 not September 2020
- Not had silly rules like no one can start vaccinating until we all can (27th Dec)
- Not encouraged all member states to be part of the joint puchasing scheme
that enough for you?
- Taken a higher risk approach and ordered more from more suppliers
- Started planning when the UK did, March 2020 not September 2020
- Not had silly rules like no one can start vaccinating until we all can (27th Dec)
- Not encouraged all member states to be part of the joint puchasing scheme
that enough for you?
Maybe invested more in the research, helped the companies researching by placing orders, and then not keep changing their minds re safety
They could try not changing the story on AZ every 30 seconds or even use the stock they already have, 22 million doses doing no good in a warehouse
Well if the EU hadn’t been so stupid and put millions of lives in danger the there wouldn’t have been an issue
Absolute highly uneducated, simple-minded, totally insane rubbish. Look, even the world's top scientists CANNOT really predict what will happen in a few weeks time, let alone what will happen next year.
So STOP the imbecilic scaremongering, get your facts right and THINK POSITIVE for a change.
So STOP the imbecilic scaremongering, get your facts right and THINK POSITIVE for a change.
Cassandra!
It's not because of delivery delays it's because the EU took three months to even order anything
You get the impression they never intended to have a very speedy vaccination program and where happy to just plod along slowly.
It seems they have been shown up by other countries and have found their own populations are now demanding they go faster.
It seems they have been shown up by other countries and have found their own populations are now demanding they go faster.
Macron has admitted they they didn’t think vaccines would be available so quickly. They were too slow, too mean and too bureaucratic but they then have to blame the U.K. for getting it right.
The EU concentrated on the cost of vaccines not the lives of its people ...our government is a stand out success
And then phaffed around even after they ordered. Total mess sadly!
I am no lover of the EU but they took the position that vaccines were many months away & chortled as the UK spent money on ordering untested jabs. If none of the vaccines had worked then some people would have been shouting about the vast waste of money (no Meg Hillier, no pack drill). It has turned out that the EU was wrong & their hold on power is so fragile they can't be seen to be wrong.
its good to see man s ego ,greed and vanity have not interfered in this truly altruistic global effort
Yeah, and then ordered too little as well, from what I can tell. The UK suffered from vaccine delivery delays too and is probably well behind the original planned schedule, but because the original schedule and orders were a lot more aggressive than the EU's we've still come out ahead of them despite that.
Unless on minimum wage!
BBC claiming is the UK variant responsible... nothing then to do with the vaccination fiasco then???
Typical BBC.
Typical BBC.
Its not a "British" strain. Its Chinese.
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It’s a variant. The media call it the U.K./Kent variant.
It’s been found to be more transmissable.
Happy with those facts?
It’s been found to be more transmissable.
Happy with those facts?
The UK variant is very contagious though. Raises the natural R number from 3 up to 5.
Good job our government didn't mention the new variant till December even though they knew about it in September......
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Good job our government didn't mention the new variant till December even though they knew about it in September......
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The bulk of testing worldwide has been done by responsible countries like the UK. Just because a strain is found in Kent doesn't mean it originated there. At the end of the day all of it (probably) came from China. I thought I would get that in before the "influencers of the CCP" start to give me the thumbs down.
"Spanish Flu" originated in the USA... it is only called Spanish Flu because the Spanish identified it.
It’s call the Kent variant because we identified it first.
It doesn’t mean it originated in Kent.
It doesn’t mean it originated in Kent.
Discovered in Kent but who knows who brought it in? It might even have come from a French channel port! Nobody really knows for sure, but we all know we didn’t invent the virus!
So that's why it's called the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation
The BBC merely stated that the "Kent" variant is now the most prevalent, it's just stating a fact. What's your problem? Why typical BBC?
Exactly, what happened to the variant starting in China?
No the EU claim its theUK variant and the BBC just reported this. You need to learn the way to read and listen, not spout incorrect facts. And as you obviously work for Sky get off this platform.
That would be because it *is* the UK variant. Not all facts are convenient.
It's funny how they also don't like you referring to the virus as the chinese virus but are more than happy calling the variant the UK variant. The usual double standards from the leftwing luvvies.
Thats true, in Frankfurt german we were down to 50 cases per week for 100 000, in lockdown, without any change but increase of UK Mutant (now ca 85%) we are at 130 less than 10 days down. Thank you Brits for exporting UK mutant to the continent.
If the BBC can find anyway to be critical of the UK ,whether real or imagined, they will be on it in a flash. A wholly discredited outfit
It was publicised in Britain first, the gene sequence has been found in Italy and France in way Bigger numbers at roughly the same time before we reported it they just didn't get around to sequencing it as fast as our boffins.
First time the frenchies have let us own anything they had first.
First time the frenchies have let us own anything they had first.
It's only called the UK variant as it was first detected in the UK, Kent I do believe which gives a big hint it came from France in the first place.....
Why is it perfectly acceptable to refer to the 'UK variant', and 'Spanish flu', but not OK to refer to Covid-19 as the 'Chinese virus' or 'Wuhan virus'?
In this instance - just check the numbers of Polish kids at UK schools who had been travelling between the UK and family back home in Poland.
In my daughter's school alone3 different families have been back and forth to Poland since September 2020. That may be how the Kent variant travelled particularly to the Czech Republic and other Slavic nations.
In my daughter's school alone3 different families have been back and forth to Poland since September 2020. That may be how the Kent variant travelled particularly to the Czech Republic and other Slavic nations.
This comment made me laugh out loud for how daft it is.
Ouchhhh!
BUT 'biting the hand that feeds' does come to mind!
BUT 'biting the hand that feeds' does come to mind!
And today a rise in infections amongst school kids. Here we go again!
What your practical alternative Tony?
A very small rise, they said this was likely to happen. The good thing is it does not seem to have caused a massive explosion of case numbers.
It’s not possible to completely eradicate this virus so we will have to lean to live with some cases permanently. As long as these vaccines prevent serious illness and death then it becomes no worse than the flue.
It’s not possible to completely eradicate this virus so we will have to lean to live with some cases permanently. As long as these vaccines prevent serious illness and death then it becomes no worse than the flue.
REWILDER: You really are full of the joys of spring aren't you? Look it was ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL for the kids to go back to school for their well-being and education, because they COULD NOT carry on as they were.
So think positive for a change instead of being completely negative, because that is NOT needed at present.
So think positive for a change instead of being completely negative, because that is NOT needed at present.
Population density doesn't matter. Urbanisation does.
It's not likely a population is spread evenly across a country.
You could have a massive country, but if 95% of the population is concentrated in a few cities, then so what?
Not to mention the most densely populated country in the world (Singapore) has had 30 deaths during the entire pandemic......
It's not likely a population is spread evenly across a country.
You could have a massive country, but if 95% of the population is concentrated in a few cities, then so what?
Not to mention the most densely populated country in the world (Singapore) has had 30 deaths during the entire pandemic......
I hope the UK takes note of how fast case numbers can rise and not rush to unlock too quickly.
There is still no definite data on whether vaccinated people can still transmit the disease. Until that information is available it is wise to maintain masks & distancing. In addition, the numbers who have had their second dose are low and highest immunity comes with the 2nd dose. Until we have almost the whole population fully vaccinated it would be foolish to remove all safety measures.
Is nowhere near complete yet...
Not that effective you need strong controls as well to keep the R number below 1
Of course vaccines are important for everybody's future protection - it is the way out of this - but the UK have been a strict lockdown in the last three months and now cases are falling - France did not and sadly this is the consequence of it. Their approach of using a night curfew to stop transmission clearly wasn't enough.
Nobody told the virus it should not transmit during the day.
Feels a little de ja vu to me, ie us towards the end of the 2020, having undone all the hardworking through the first lockdown by throwing caution to the wind over the summer. While we have been locked down for the third time and focused on vaccination, it feels like the Continent has dithered, shown a lack of direction and become very political blaming everyone else for its lack of action.
Imagine a company with 27 main board Directors. Decision making would be virtually impossible.
But that was the highly incompetent government's fault in its entirety. Had they had acted properly last summer when the cases were much lower, then in no way would the UK have got itself in the state it is in. Instead, all they did was pussy foot around with their half baked, totally insane ideas (like the tier system) that DID NOT work and never ever will. And that put the UK back to square one
Yes all very British traits normally
And there was a large spike in France before we had our September to Dec rise of the B1 variant
Ther's been no point to any of the lockdwons or restrictions! It'a ll been a lie! It's impossible to prevent the spread! Only vaccines where 'EVER' going to make a difference! The recession and debt creation were predicted by my 'associates' in 2019 long before the Pandemic!
I was reading about Germany's now cancelled "tough lockdown" over Easter. You could still socialise with one other household indoors under the rules, something that is illegal here till mid May. Even with nearly all the over 50s and clinically vulnerable offered a vaccine.
Our easing is a joke. We're squandering the success of the vaccine rollout every day we stay in these ridiculous measures.
Our easing is a joke. We're squandering the success of the vaccine rollout every day we stay in these ridiculous measures.
We don't know if the vaccine rollout will be successful unless we control the parameters and ease gently. That's what the virologists are suggesting and I'm guessing they know more about this than random people on HYS.
Why is the BBC obsessed with reporting vaccination rates in the EU? Grow up, it is not a competition and only sows discord.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
I really think their reversal of lockdown over Easter is a huge mistake, they only need to look to the U.K. and what happened when millions ignored the just Christmas Day rule.
Case number exploded shortly afterwards.
Case number exploded shortly afterwards.
No they didn’t. They were going up before Christmas and the trend tailed off with the lockdown, largely unaffected by the one day granted to us to meet.
Governments aren't going to stop things like Christmas/Easter holiday's with family and friends because they'd no longer be in office.
No they did not. That is completely fake news. The trajectory of infections was locked in prior to the Christmas Day rule and subsequent analysis has confirmed the actual Christmas period made very little difference.
Yes, I agree. Merkel was right with her first decision, the U-turn is a mistake IMO.
I know, everyone screeching about how they had to see their granny at Christmas as she's old and it might be her last Christmas. Unfortunately for many grannies it was. I read accounts online of elderly people who would've preferred not to join their families for Christmas but their offspring insisted on it, seems like the danger was obvious to many of the old people but ignored by their families.
Angela is hog-tied by business and her party's sponsors, same as Boris.
We are in shutdown in Geermany, actually non stop since October, restrictions were slightly lifted 2 weeks ago, only to be again imposed. All restaruants have been closed non stop, all non essential shops are also closed, etc. The only back down is that Thurdsday is not a public holiday. So much for misinforming UK press. (or lost in translation)
You don't know what you are talking about I am 69 years and have had covid so if you think that I am scaring or boring you try to get it your self I got it in the first lockdown and still recovering from it 12 months long
Really sorry to hear that. Hope that you recover.
Eminently sensible precaution. Would be easier if they were an island.
Perhaps it just wants to be called by a name of it's own choice ?
Yes its Chinese
That's something else the Chinese should own up too , but of course they won't .
Bring all our manufacturing back Home, it'll still be cheaper than what this lot has cost.
Bring all our manufacturing back Home, it'll still be cheaper than what this lot has cost.
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How come the Germans are lagging behind? They're usually so efficient (ignoring Berlin Airport) May be it's something to do with the EU. I bet they're pleased they have to prop it up with their hard earned cash
Should really be assigned the full term of "The variant first discovered in Kent" but yeh!
Agree but lets look also at Kent I am not sure they have large populated areas but they do have 2 major ports. It is not beyond the possibility it was brought in from Europe freight deliveries.
Unfortunately, lots out there don't know what a fact is, and even if they did they would find them inconvenient. Poor old BBC !
Sovereign nation controls its borders.
The UK could learn a lot from that.
The UK could learn a lot from that.
Bravo for using a story about EU failures and the hypocrisy of claiming to act as one entity as a chance to bash the UK.
This strain (so called UK(Kent) strain) was caused because people in the 'The South', unlike 'The North' were allowed to mingle and go about their everyday life allowing the virus to mutate. The pubs in Sheffield have not been open since October! The English tier system was a failure and caused this 3rd wave.
Perhaps if Europe concentrated on getting the stockpile of AZ jabs they have into arms instead of trying to blame the UK for their own incompetence they may start to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
So if we'd have stayed in the EU we'd have had full control of our borders after all....
Ths is exactly the problem.
"France and Germany have used only about half of the AstraZeneca jabs according to the ECDC. As of 26 Mar, France had distributed 1.6 million out of 2.9 million doses available, while Germany received 3.4 million but used only 1.9 million. The Netherlands had used only 36% of its supply.
"France and Germany have used only about half of the AstraZeneca jabs according to the ECDC. As of 26 Mar, France had distributed 1.6 million out of 2.9 million doses available, while Germany received 3.4 million but used only 1.9 million. The Netherlands had used only 36% of its supply.
That is exactly the problem.
"France and Germany have used only about half of the AstraZeneca jabs according to the ECDC. As of 26 Mar, France had distributed 1.6 million out of 2.9 million doses available, while Germany received 3.4 million but used only 1.9 million. The Netherlands had used only 36% of its supply.
"France and Germany have used only about half of the AstraZeneca jabs according to the ECDC. As of 26 Mar, France had distributed 1.6 million out of 2.9 million doses available, while Germany received 3.4 million but used only 1.9 million. The Netherlands had used only 36% of its supply.
Maybe if the UK thought of others rather than the usual me.. me.. me?
I said from the beginning of the Brexit debate there was no reason to leave.
All we had to do is treat rules in the same way as other EU countries do.
That is ignore any rule that you don’t agree with and complain that others break the rules.
The trouble was and still is British senior Civil Servants are on the whole products of the Public School system and as flexible as a rod of titanium.
All we had to do is treat rules in the same way as other EU countries do.
That is ignore any rule that you don’t agree with and complain that others break the rules.
The trouble was and still is British senior Civil Servants are on the whole products of the Public School system and as flexible as a rod of titanium.
So much for freedom of movement and no internal EU borders. It’s at times like this that the fallacy of a united Europe becomes evident.
Given that Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all imposed their own rules and borders in a localised effort to stem transmission, are you going to conclude that the concept of a United Kingdom is a fallacy as well?
In the current situation I don’t see why they couldn’t suspend the aggrement for a set time due to this current crisis. I would not see this as any failure of the FoM rule but a temporary sensible decision
Yes, and Germany was thinking about ordering it's own vaccinations! So much for unity!!
There has never been freedom of movement in the EU for UK citizens. There was always a restriction of a maximum of 90 consecutive days in an EU country and 183 maximum in a year whilst we were members.
FOM is another EU lie.
FOM is another EU lie.
It’s at times like this that the fallacy of a loss of sovereignty becomes evident.
If a lot of eu leaders had signed up for the vaccines there probably wouldn't have been the problems there are now. In effect it's probable that there will be more fatalities because of misinformation. At least with more than half the adult population vaccinated in this country hopefully a return to some form of normality.
I'm not a fan of our own leaders, but greatly respected how bravely they made the difficult, unpopular decision to cancel Christmas at very short notice. I'm surprised that Merkel backed down in the same situation; to allow an unlockdowned Easter in Germany's current situation is surely catastrophic.
Yes it’s a real shame millions ignored the Christmas rule, it’s what lead to the explosion of cases.
Perhaps Frau Merkel feared that the German population would be non compliant if ordered to cancel Easter.
The problem was that our 'brave leaders' (sic) delayed unnecessarily at every point, forcing last-minute U-turns such as that one. An urgent enquiry is needed, and not one that simply kicks the issue down the road. It has to have teeth. Unfortunately, with this collection of entitled self-serving liars in charge it's probably not going to happen.
Are you kidding? They did everything they could try to and keep the country open until after Christmas.
Eventually they cancelled it (for most people not all) because they had no choice!
But they should never have tried to reopen in December in the first place. If we hadn't of done that, we'd be pretty much reopen by now.
Eventually they cancelled it (for most people not all) because they had no choice!
But they should never have tried to reopen in December in the first place. If we hadn't of done that, we'd be pretty much reopen by now.
Unfortunately it’s win win for Merkel. Cases rise and she says what a good decision she made; cases fall and she says what a good decision she made.
That’s politics!
That’s politics!
Are you for real? They offered the false hope to millions of people that they would be able to have a 'normal' christmas when all the evidence was pointing to rising infections and new lockdown measures being necessary. They only cancelled at the last minute under intense pressure. Then they opened schools for one day before enforcing a national lockdown. No bravery, just utter incompetence.
She has a reputation to live up to Misses Do nothing
Thank god we're doing well on the vaccine front. It could be the make or break factor for a country's quality of life in 2021.
It's funny, when the UK had high deaths per 100 people everyone kept comparing us to other European countries (but convenientally not US or South America) and blaming 'Boris' (no last name apparently).
Now we look to be moving in the right direction with fewer deaths and an infinitely better vaccine roullout, the same people spout "It's not a competition you know!"
Now we look to be moving in the right direction with fewer deaths and an infinitely better vaccine roullout, the same people spout "It's not a competition you know!"
I suspect Boris would like you to thank him personally. In a year's time we will no doubt be told how the govt planned this 'Great Vaccine Escape' all along.
Unfortunately if everyone (including children) are vaccinated it will reduce the R number by about 1/2. Since the predicted R number with no restrictions is 5 we still need restrictions to keep it below 1 so don't think we are near the end yet.
GB has sea all around their island and very obviously still can't even police the 100 miles or so of coastline where people can actually cross over in dinghies. Need the help of the - much vilified - French for that. Now imagine how 'easy' it is to control thousands of miles of continuous land borders/forest etc, the type of border many EU countries have. Maybe you shouldn't shout so loud.
How come the Germans are lagging behind? They're usually so efficient (ignoring Berlin Airport) May be it's something to do with the EU. I bet they're pleased they have to prop it up with their hard earned cash
Unless we all work together with the EU, Russia, China and indeed the rest of the World the infections will spread at dangerous levels on and on.
This is not the time for Governments here or abroad to be parochial.
This is not the time for Governments here or abroad to be parochial.
This is so true but I guess the WHO is the only organisation who could do that Maybe we need all countries to sign up to a global approach which, taking Iceland’s example, would be led by the scientists without political interference.
Unfortunately there's nothing the UK can do to fix the EU's vaccine screw-ups. They didn't build out enough vaccine production capacity or do it early enough because they were busy penny pinching, and there is no way for us to fill in all that the missing capacity. Maybe if the UK's AstraZeneca production had gone better and we'd vaccinated every adult here already, but it didn't.
This strain (so called UK(Kent) strain) was caused because people in the 'The South', unlike 'The North' were allowed to mingle and go about their everyday life allowing the virus to mutate. The pubs in Sheffield have not been open since October! The English tier system was a failure and caused this 3rd wave.
Good to see that the mandatory medical-grade masks are working
Yes it looks like masks actual do nothing to stop the virus spreading , question is , given this fact why are they still being mandated.
Well if the EU hadn’t been so stupid and put millions of lives in danger the there wouldn’t have been an issue
It has been proven that giving the second vacine so soon is less effective than waiting around 12 weeks. So not only are they not bothering to vaccinate people full stop, those that they are they are doing wrong anyway.
It is the first dose of the vaccine that counts. The second dose is just insurance. After the first dose chances of catching the virus are greatly reduced and if you do chances of serious illness from it are almost zero.
yes but this was a calculated risk, you get about 76% protection from first jab then 2nd upto to 82% (On AZ that is) so we took the risk to spread out gap to 2nd dose to get more people 76% protection. It turns out that risk was right decision as we have almost all our most vulnerable done.
I hope the UK takes note of how fast case numbers can rise and not rush to unlock too quickly.
They did better in the early part of the pandemic because the virus was introduced into their country mainly by young people returning from ski resorts.
We had a worse situation in the U.K. with the virus being seeded wildly across the country.
As infections have now spread wider in Germany it now shows they are in fact no better than any other western nation.
We had a worse situation in the U.K. with the virus being seeded wildly across the country.
As infections have now spread wider in Germany it now shows they are in fact no better than any other western nation.
I was reading about Germany's now cancelled "tough lockdown" over Easter. You could still socialise with one other household indoors under the rules, something that is illegal here till mid May. Even with nearly all the over 50s and clinically vulnerable offered a vaccine.
Our easing is a joke. We're squandering the success of the vaccine rollout every day we stay in these ridiculous measures.
Our easing is a joke. We're squandering the success of the vaccine rollout every day we stay in these ridiculous measures.
Tell the UK that...
Praying for our dear friends and neighbours in Germany. Love from Warsaw ??????????
Unfortunately the leadership of the countries is not up to the task. But then when you get paid more to run a university than a country not to be expected. Left with those whose answer is to pontificate, then throw money, blame others to run the show n
I thought this HYS would alteady be upto 2,000 comments with Brexiters gleefully shouting "seeeeee we told you Brexit would be good.... all it needed was a global pandemic!" Or just hurling abuse at the EU!
Have they all taken a long weekend???
Have they all taken a long weekend???
Nothing more needs to be said. QED.
Oh no!!!! You just mentioned Brexit in a thread that has nothing to do with it.
No but we don’t see the need to resort to such childish remarks - especially by belittling such a major global crisis to mud slinging. Get real
Slim: Will you do everyone a favour and NOT condemn or blame Brexit for everything you do not like. You have to face the fact that we HAVE left the EU, so you have to think positive for a change and get on with life.
But your extremely childish remarks DO NOT help anything, let alone getting to grips with a pandemic. So get real for once.
But your extremely childish remarks DO NOT help anything, let alone getting to grips with a pandemic. So get real for once.
Feels a little de ja vu to me, ie us towards the end of the 2020, having undone all the hardworking through the first lockdown by throwing caution to the wind over the summer. While we have been locked down for the third time and focused on vaccination, it feels like the Continent has dithered, shown a lack of direction and become very political blaming everyone else for its lack of action.
Indeed! Apparently, a Camel, was a Horse, designed by a committee.
Been saying that for years now. The whole concept was and remains flawed from day one. At least in your company analogy, one imagines a business with a common goal. The 27 "member states" have widely differing backgrounds, views, heritage, etc. The idea of them all working in harmony is frankly madness.
It’s not impossible, just slow.............
And you wouldn’t believe the size of the boardroom table.
And you wouldn’t believe the size of the boardroom table.
EU structure not the best for making decisions quickly and moving fast when needed.
UK was always going to be a better performer without being shackled to and having to tow the EU line.
UK was always going to be a better performer without being shackled to and having to tow the EU line.
In addition another 'board' who make policy and a workers collective to rubber stamp decisions
You will find some large companies do have that number they too are slow to react. Factions form just the same as within political groups. Hence why the UK took a while realise the severity of Covid, Why the The US struggled at the onset. Why the EU still are. Countries with leaner Governments were able to be more decisive and there was less infighting to contend with.
27 you mean 2 it's always been that way and I don't seeing anything changing soon
As the Greece economic crisis showed, there is only one director of the EU - Germany. What they say, goes.
In reality just the German & French ones have any clout!!
And it's been a stunning success so far ;-))))
And it's been a stunning success so far ;-))))
It was the EU countries that stopped using the AZ vaccine, criticised it they now complain when they are not getting enough vaccines, double standards.......
..and they just found 29 million doses in Italy just sitting there
"Abundance of caution" , does that not mean anything to you ? Especially when you are dealing with the well being of others.
No ?
No ?
Yep. Maybe our press shouldn't have kept banging on about how well our vaccine roll out was doing until we were finished while criticising the eu. Just asking for a backlash. It's almost like the press wanted eu to slow us down as theres a few more pages to print then.
AZ should have pulled the plug as soon as the EU started their nazi style propaganda. Someone grateful could be using it now.
Fortunately for the Germans the country is nowhere near as densely populated as the UK, England in particular. This might help them keep it lower than our worst time.
Population density doesn't matter. Urbanisation does.
It's not likely a population is spread evenly across a country.
You could have a massive country, but if 95% of the population is concentrated in a few cities, then so what?
Not to mention the most densely populated country in the world (Singapore) has had 30 deaths during the entire pandemic......
It's not likely a population is spread evenly across a country.
You could have a massive country, but if 95% of the population is concentrated in a few cities, then so what?
Not to mention the most densely populated country in the world (Singapore) has had 30 deaths during the entire pandemic......
If we hadn't left the group we would have been restricted and the UK would have seen this happening here again..
The pandemic has exposed the EU's true nature: overly-bureaucratic, arrogant and ruthlessly tyannical.
Thank goodness we left.
Thank goodness we left.
Yes, it only took a global pandemic to give you something to crow about over Brexit! Lucky that!??
Praise the lord that we do not have an overly-bureaucratic, arrogant and ruthlessly tyannical (sic) government
Our own governments over the years have got things seriously wrong. Yet (if you’re English) you haven’t clamoured to leave the UK.
Is that why the SNP want to be in the EU!?
Each eu country was making their own vaccine arrangements then pulled back as the eu said they’d organise it all for a better price. Meaning more wasted time Before the 3 months delay by the eu whilst trying to get a better price+who to go with. I think that was the problem of more delay+vac.numbers were so great to imagine than each ind. states totals+knocked out smaller manufacturers
So I guess you’d support the EU being disbanded and a return to nationalism and division. Not for me. I lost ancestors in last two world wars that started in Europe. The main reason the EU was created was to prevent another one. Despite its bureaucracy it’s brought peace prosperity and stability to a once volatile region.
oh yes nothing like our own government at all (sarcasm)
Most deaths per capita in major western nations... I care more about that
Sad but true. The UK has been propping up the EU for years and people may now realise it. It doesn't mean we cannot work together and look out for each other, but simply as neighbours with common interest.
Meanwhile Pritti Patel claims £70,000 on expenses for eyebrow treatment yet the BBC fail to mention it.
Bet you are not in business trying to trade with the Brexit rules.
You're still obsessed with them and will be for the rest of your lifetime lol
The pandemic shows the morality of peoples. UK and USA export nothing, send no help to Czech republic, Brazil etc. Shame on you
So untrue and so sad to see how the nationalistic propaganda has started to be the thing people believe. The UK incites EU hatred because it feels it want to control it and sadly it can't. In addition, it feels big and should command respect but, sadly it is now small corrupt and getting more insignificant every day ...Enjoy Brexit UK , it is what you wanted....
Anyone booking a holiday to the continent this year needs their head examining
Not really Tony, the risk is probably higher the local Aldi.
Why? Look at where the UK was in January and where we are now - it's a good 3 or 4 months to summer holiday period. I've booked, all fully refundable, if I can go then great. If not, no problem
We are only in March. Think back 3 months ago to what was happening here. July is 4 months away. Things can change and quickly. Just the EU need to get their vaccines in arms instead of pontificating.
It's going to be very funny watching all those Brexit voters being turned away at the airport because their passport has less than 6 months on it. And then watch the others join the massive non EU passport queue. But they'll be clutching a blue passport which will make it all worthwhile.
No they don't. There is something called seasonality that has a major impact on the virus with or without lockdowns. Most places will have much reduced cases come July regardless of their vaccine progress.
No. Everyone who took holidays abroad last year need their heads examined.
I think even without covid we seem to be regarded as the enemy. Oh what short memories they have
Yes, especially holidays to certain ‘Tourism reliant Countries that have not reported their CV cases in accordance with WHO requirements ......
IanG2012: Obviously with you first in the queue to have their head examined for making such a highly uneducated, simple-minded comment.
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I'm going to the Greek islands again. All booked. Far less risky than overcrowded Cornwall that's for sure.
But there are still flights to India, work that out while we are in lockdown.
Im booked in for my 'Head Examination' on your advice as I have booked 2 trips to Europe this year. Thank you for pointing me to the error of my ways.
Or B&M, patio chairs, hose pipes, pictures of New York at night time ?? just don’t understand how they get away with it, police happy to book two people out for a walk, ??
Sadly Ian I think you are right and, also sadly, I bet a LOT of people really really need their holidays and just can't do it at home.
PS thank you...you made me smile !
PS thank you...you made me smile !
Great to see the EU's open border policy is not so open ??
The EU is falling apart at the seems......
and yes i voted remain
The EU is falling apart at the seems......
and yes i voted remain
How come the Germans are lagging behind? They're usually so efficient (ignoring Berlin Airport) May be it's something to do with the EU. I bet they're pleased they have to prop it up with their hard earned cash
Oh no!!!! You just mentioned Brexit in a thread that has nothing to do with it.
Why is the BBC obsessed with reporting vaccination rates in the EU? Grow up, it is not a competition and only sows discord.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
Should be better than the red-tops, but definitely not.
The British disease spreads through Germany and the gammonistas love it.
Just because we were the first to find it doesn't make it ours. Just means we were looking harder than anyone else.
Your user name sounds like a disease! Ughh go & troll some other place.
Absolute rubbish.
are you having a laugh. the reason it is not safe in the EU is because it's politicians are too busy looking after their own self interests and not those of the people it represents.
Yes indeed. No hate or malice or blame. Just love and support. Why not all of the time.
Maybe, but the issue of the EU's lack of agility when it comes to approval and rollout of the vaccine does need to be examined.
Oh no!!!! You just mentioned Brexit in a thread that has nothing to do with it.
We've left now so give it a rest.....the EU have been exposed & their reputation tarnished over their shameful scaremongering of the AZ jab & their inability to deal with a pandemic so they lie to their population & create a quarrel where there isn't one to hide their stupidity!
COVID has been a useful event under which to bury the Brexit fall out - food exports down 71.5% being one example
No, everyone except remainers already knew what they were and are like.
Exactly, it's taken the worst thing in the world to wake people up and see how better off we are.
Ignorance is bliss wake up and smell the coffee you are playing the wrong tune.
But it is a good indicator as to how they conduct themselves isn't it?
An enemy to all but themselves.
Thoughtless and arrogant.
An enemy to all but themselves.
Thoughtless and arrogant.
We have Lidl and Aldi who need Europe now??
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To be fair, being on the opposite side to the EUs vaccine fiasco IS something to be glad about. But it’s clearly niggling you. Bitter much?
Nope. Just one of many benefits of Brexit.
What a predictable daft comment
That's not crowing, it's simply the truth. But remoaners can call it what they like - you lost!
It won't just be covid jabs will it?
EU has made covid jab mess.. And will not be honest about it.
Only because EU publics can see dead bodies, full icus, lockdowns and jab shortages is the truth known.
How truthful would EU be over less public issues? Covid seems to show they'd lie.
EU has made covid jab mess.. And will not be honest about it.
Only because EU publics can see dead bodies, full icus, lockdowns and jab shortages is the truth known.
How truthful would EU be over less public issues? Covid seems to show they'd lie.
Nope not true - not crowing myself.
Perhaps it sadly took a pandemic for you to open your eyes, ears and mind.
Brexit has issues but also benefits.
Perhaps it sadly took a pandemic for you to open your eyes, ears and mind.
Brexit has issues but also benefits.
No sensible person should be crowing about loss of life and all the suffering this Chinese coronavirus is causing. As for these idiots protesting in Bristol about that we hope can save lives they sicken me.
the majority of this lot will be spitting out their tea , at your comment cant have the the tory dystopia party being being questioned .
All depends on how you count the death rate. Far more accurate is to count excess deaths over the normal rate for an average year. If you did the the European figures would be much higher.
Yes and I was wondering at which point reprocity and proportionality would apply considering we gave the formulas to the world for the AZ vaccine and have applied the eu with many products and chemicals to make both the AZ an some Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines. We may have two production plants for AZ Here as does the continent- however they also have many other production plants and vaccines.
Currently. That certainly won't be the case when this is done with. That's not to say the Tories didn't completely mess this whole thing up at the start. However, they have pulled it out of the bag by getting orders in early, building the infrastructure etc. while the EU were wandering about kicking tyres, whining about price.
Distribution is all thanks to the NHS, who have been outstanding.
Distribution is all thanks to the NHS, who have been outstanding.
EU getting worse by the day, whereas the UK is getting better by the day. They have had 12mths to figure out what to do and still can't get it right.
There is a new word for twice as less called half!
That's what happens when you fudge the numbers and don't count them the same as the UK does. If they counted their infections the same way as we do, there would be an outcry at the numbers that have gone unreported across the EU.
But I suppose that doesn't suit your agenda so you'll no doubt ignore it.
But I suppose that doesn't suit your agenda so you'll no doubt ignore it.
"twice as less" ???
Based on what scientific facts would that be Gary?
Or was your remark just that of another throw away comment?
Or was your remark just that of another throw away comment?
That's a heck of a lot of votes against your daft comment Gary, hope that tells you something
What has Aldi got to do with it? Unless you mean a certain Aldi in a certain country in the EU.
Germany get a grip its the same virus as last year I'm tired of the media and governments trying to convince us all we are constantly struggling to deal with a virus we are no longer struggling with .The only struggle i can see is the media finding another source as good as covid in the next 50 years
Idiotic comment of the day.
The last 3 letters of your name are incredibly apt
If you have ever seen someone dying with Co-vid you might want to think about that fatuous remark.
complete and utter rubbish
I didn’t know they let you access HYS in the big house, as Jim McDonald used to call it.
So all you need from France is a negative test and no quarantine but come from the UK and it's a negative test and quarantine. Yes that makes perfect sense with 45000+ cases in France yesterday vs 6000+ in the UK. Nothing stops the EU can't upset the other EU countries even in a pandemic.
Totally agree. France should be on the red list. Only reason it seems not to be is the flow of lorries and drivers coming in. Appreciate it's not easy but we need unaccompanied freight if we are to keep this wave on the continent from entering our country in much higher rates.
I am really hoping Germany (and other European countries) do not follow the UK's failed Christmas policy;
Travel is ok,
Travel is ok,
Travel is ok,
Travel is NOT OK,
Too late ...
Travel is ok,
Travel is ok,
Travel is ok,
Travel is NOT OK,
Too late ...
Like last summer you mean, when Europe said it was safe for us to visit for a holiday
Sadly. It’s too late already. France and Germany get the Gold medal for dithering and indecisiveness. Sadly not fully reported by the BBC. This disaster should open your eyes to what the EU is really likely. An expensive, ineffective, back stabbing collective that ignores its own citizens
The bulk of testing worldwide has been done by responsible countries like the UK. Just because a strain is found in Kent doesn't mean it originated there. At the end of the day all of it (probably) came from China. I thought I would get that in before the "influencers of the CCP" start to give me the thumbs down.
"Just because a strain is found in Kent doesn't mean it originated there."
Exactly so. Now, what has been going on in Kent for months, unreported because it doesn't suit the agenda? What people are being distributed throughout the country despite all this "stay at home" nonsense?
And more to the point, when are we going to stop these arrivals?
Exactly so. Now, what has been going on in Kent for months, unreported because it doesn't suit the agenda? What people are being distributed throughout the country despite all this "stay at home" nonsense?
And more to the point, when are we going to stop these arrivals?
This is 100% correct first detected in Kent - this does not mean originated.
It may indeed have come from France as it popped up next door to France - the UK tests more variant genomes in a week than France does in a year, so the French were unlikely to detect it.
Following your logic:
Just because a strain was found in China does not mean it originated there. It probably came from America. Without proof it is just an opinion.
The Kent variant is a UK or British variant because it was found in Britain before anywhere else in the world probably because it originated here. Later it was detected on the continent as well.
It doesn't mean the UK manufactured it.
Just because a strain was found in China does not mean it originated there. It probably came from America. Without proof it is just an opinion.
The Kent variant is a UK or British variant because it was found in Britain before anywhere else in the world probably because it originated here. Later it was detected on the continent as well.
It doesn't mean the UK manufactured it.
Can somebody explain why all import trailers into the UK are now not unaccompanied?
Surely it would boost UK haulage and stop the flow of unnecessary European drivers.
The move would be relatively straight forward and prudent.
Surely it would boost UK haulage and stop the flow of unnecessary European drivers.
The move would be relatively straight forward and prudent.
...because unaccompanied trailers would have to be kept in unsanitary condition on this side of the border, separated from their parents, thus causing a furore.
Fascinating that the French foreign minister is accusing the UK of blackmail when the absolute inverse is true!
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French politicians have no shame!
There's an election coming up . Macron cant allow the UK to look too good as it makes him look bad ...hence all the strutting and talking nonsense
The French media spitting out lots of propaganda to their people
Is it? You're accusing him of being accusing. Without any evidence do the see the problem with that?
Why the emphasis on UK(Kent) variant name - a variant first identified in the UK in the area of Kent is a more sensible label surely - we are leaders in identification of Covid variants - and we all know that Kent is close to Europe and has a lot of beaches...........
Why doesn't the EU also add to the reason cases have soared. Because they each country in turn refused to vaccinate older people stating A Z was not safe. Then and now threatening to stop supply to the UK
You reap what you sowe.
You reap what you sowe.
More to the point why are they making everywhere outside the EU go into quarantine as well? This makes no sense. Compare the UK 6000+ cases yesterday vs France 45000+ cases. From the UK its a negative test and quarantine but France is just a negative test, which they may check you have had. This is no time for EU freedom of travel if you are serious about public health.
Brexiteers will fail to see the irony of your comment.
Crikey that isn’t difficult. They should have got their collective finger out and formed ‘joint ventures’ with the vaccine companies to produce a solution at cost. This is what the UK Gov did with AZ. EU signed a commercial agreement with no funding. Stopped criticising the AZ vaccine, and for once put their citizens first, not their own political interests. EU always was, and is a disaster.
The EU negotiated a deal with AZ that covered development, liability and other costs faced by the vaccine maker. The EU also made a down payment of EUR 336 million, last August.
So please explain the "no funding" you refer to.
So please explain the "no funding" you refer to.
This strain (so called UK(Kent) strain) was caused because people in the 'The South', unlike 'The North' were allowed to mingle and go about their everyday life allowing the virus to mutate. The pubs in Sheffield have not been open since October! The English tier system was a failure and caused this 3rd wave.
Good to see that the mandatory medical-grade masks are working
Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?
Can't hear you?
Can't hear you?
Deaths per million:
UK - 1,855
Germany - 902
Maybe if I was German my mother would still be alive right now......
We're in no position to mock others.
UK - 1,855
Germany - 902
Maybe if I was German my mother would still be alive right now......
We're in no position to mock others.
Even if we had remained in the EU we were still sovereign enough to have done just as we have now done.
No EU country was compelled to join the EU vaccine syndicate and I’m sure the UK would have still gone its own way even if it was still an EU member.
No EU country was compelled to join the EU vaccine syndicate and I’m sure the UK would have still gone its own way even if it was still an EU member.
but they got economies of scale.....
I wonder how this can turn out to be the fault of the UK? Ah there we go, the 'UK Variant'. Or as you could call it, the 'variant first identified in the UK'.
UK, South African, Brazilian variant. We all know what that means. No need to go for the unnecessarily more wordy ‘variant first identified in...’
but it really started in France - see the data
Its called 'Shoot the Messenger' that old deflection of blame technique. Better not to look too hard then you will not find!
The UK accounts for 50% of the virus genome tests globally. We test a lot, so are likely to find and map more variants and that is bourne out in the number we have mapped.
But if we find them first they become a UK variant and French politicians then use this to beat us over the head.
In countries with low testing, there are variants we don't even know about yet.
But if we find them first they become a UK variant and French politicians then use this to beat us over the head.
In countries with low testing, there are variants we don't even know about yet.
Well because France does practically no genome testing, they can rest on their laurels that the world will never be referring to a 'French variant', because the chances of them finding one are practically non existent.
There was a period in Oct/Nov where WALES did more genome testing in 2 weeks than France had done since the beginning of the pandemic!
There was a period in Oct/Nov where WALES did more genome testing in 2 weeks than France had done since the beginning of the pandemic!
Strange how you arent allowed to call the original variant as the chinese version though...
The BBC seem fine when it's denigrating the UK but heaven forbid you mention anywhere else incase you upset the left wing luvvies.
The BBC seem fine when it's denigrating the UK but heaven forbid you mention anywhere else incase you upset the left wing luvvies.
Perhaps one solution would be for everyone to calm down and step away from the nationalism re Covid? If C-19 mutates, it's of little comfort to the infected that they or their loved ones can wave a big jingoistic stick about the name of the variant...!
Wait till they hear about the double covid variant from India
It was first identified in the UK by our UK scientists mainly because they are so much better than most other countries. I believe that as it was first found in Kent it is more than likely that it came across the channel from Europe with Kent being the fist point of arrival in the UK. The EU will never accept that as it doesn't fit their narrative. UK has to be the source of all evil to the EU.
I do find it kind of funny how the WHO cautioned against using names attached to nations and such when defining covid-19 but the variants are fair game.
It is a wonder they haven't called it the Brexit variant..... They have blamed us for everything else.