Covid: What might a third wave look like?
26/03/2021 | news | health | 1,163
Restrictions are easing, but with parts of Europe seeing rising infections, should the UK be worried?
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26/03/2021 10:39:30 239 63
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I really think the BBC saying 'Should we be worried' and 'how bad could it be' does not help matters in these difficult times
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26/03/2021 10:49:19 140 82
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As long as there's a significant (and growing?) proportion of the population with denier and/or reckless tendencies it's probably helpful to remind people of the continuing risks. It's far from impossible that we'll end up back where we were 12 months ago with new variants.
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26/03/2021 10:52:59 29 2
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Articles like this can raise anxiety for some but that isn't the BBC's fault, the reader needs to step away from the news.

This article uses data to suggest what may happen, especially with countries like France going into a third lock down. Speculation helps prepare us for a possibility, it might not be great but I'd prefer to know the data rather than ignore it because I don't like it.
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26/03/2021 10:57:10 10 13
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yes a public service broadcaster should not behave like Fox news
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26/03/2021 11:06:35 8 17
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That’s just typical of the BBC. Take that narrative with a truckload of salt.
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26/03/2021 10:59:18 10 16
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I really think that in this case people should damn' well listen, otherwise times will get a whole lot more difficult.
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26/03/2021 11:36:02 0 6
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They are irresponsibly playing it down.
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26/03/2021 11:42:22 5 5
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You are right the BBC are there to report facts not to govern or manage the country but they now believe they are the King makers just listen to them they are a national scandal and a disgrace.
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26/03/2021 11:51:46 2 1
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Don't worry

Everything is fine

We are not all dead

The government is not letting us die so it can rob us even more

And laughing about it

None of that is happening

Feel better yet?
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26/03/2021 12:00:17 4 2
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too many tory MP's want to gamble with our lives. If we'd locked down 4 weeks earlier we could be like taiwan. A gamble may work - injecting over 65's without the test results. Or it may not - no quarantine for incoming flights for 54 weeks, or Track and trace best done by private companies - £37 billion wasted. People need to be fully aware of the risks we might take
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26/03/2021 12:06:21 0 0
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But the BBC's master, Bozo, told us a 3rd wave from Europe is inevitable, so they are only doing what they are told.

And remember it's the Kent variant causing the problems in Europe.

We do not know how effective vaccines will be against variants, which is why the whole world should follow the examples of S Korea, Vietnam, Japan, NZ and Australia.
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26/03/2021 12:30:03 4 2
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Meanwhile, grown-ups reading the article appreciate the information and explanation.
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26/03/2021 12:58:59 3 0
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Whereas The sun, Mail and Express do you mean?
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26/03/2021 13:11:21 1 1
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Yes. Ignorance is bliss.
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26/03/2021 10:39:46 255 43
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If there’s a third wave then it’s a global failure. There’s a vaccine that can almost make this illness on par with a 3 day sickness bug, but it seems the whole world is hell bent on screwing everyone else over. I guess we all need better leadership
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26/03/2021 10:44:39 171 135
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the EU are showing true colours with this, threatening and actually blocking vaccine shipments. and they are even with holding them internally to the block too. Utter madness that if you can do it why would you not. we do a flu one every year and it works, so get on and get this one done.
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26/03/2021 11:01:12 37 0
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We need to get over these “who gets what” battles.

Clearly there is insufficient production yet, not just for Europe but for the world.

Production capacity needs to be increased, not just temporarily but for the long term as the whole world is going to need boosters annually or even more frequently as different variants occur.
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26/03/2021 11:01:35 15 31
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The BBC trying to influence policy with their hypotheticals rather than sorting and reporting the facts.
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26/03/2021 11:10:51 6 8
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Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines are 81% effective at preventing deaths of those aged 70+ according to Public Health England. Not 100%
So we could still get hundreds dying a day even with the vaccine.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/972592/COVID-19_vaccine_impact_on_mortality_240321.pdf
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Hardy
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26/03/2021 11:11:20 4 1
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Mainland Europe has more cases of the South African variant

Antibody testing shows Pfizer 7.6 fold less effective & AZ 9 fold less effective against South African variant than against the original Covid. But it is expected/hoped they will still reduce severe cases.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.12.435194v1.full
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26/03/2021 11:01:23 5 5
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Vaccines may stop you from getting as sick as before but it still allows for the virus to mutate and therefore any vaccine rollout becomes wasted. Every time the virus is spread it runs the risk of mutation and sooner or later it may become a strain that's immune to the vaccines we have developed
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26/03/2021 11:14:29 4 11
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Oh great, more of the pretend socialists planning a NEW WORLD ORDER.
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26/03/2021 11:42:57 2 2
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What happens if there's 250,000 deaths by the end of 2021, continued lockdown or accept defeat and give us our freedom back?
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26/03/2021 13:08:45 2 1
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The UK is not bent on screwing anybody else. We funded the development of a vaccine and also ordered various ones a timely manner. Vaccine panic and vaccine nationalism is not coming from us.
26/03/2021 18:06:33 0 0
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Not the whole world, just the EU's various political agendas. 1 Shift blame from their own inefficiency & dangerous misleading advice. 2 Punish UK for leaving. 3 Bully AZ etc into fixing problems created by their own politicians. For the record, AZ supplies vacc at no profit 'til pandemic is over. EU also gets AZ at about half the price the UK pays (we pay £3.00 a jab, EU pays £1,59)
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26/03/2021 10:40:25 11 17
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We'll find out soon enough. There are plenty of idiots out there who are going to drag the country back down into the next wave. Hopefully it will not be as lethal as the first and our incompetent politicians will have learned their lessons.
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26/03/2021 12:54:24 0 0
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Spot on. It will NOT be anywhere NEAR as lethal.
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26/03/2021 10:40:26 77 36
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Let’s keep the fear going.
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26/03/2021 10:43:57 63 77
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There was a man in my village who uttered exactly those words. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
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26/03/2021 10:43:13 20 18
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You're right - lets put our fingers in our ears and pretend everything will be fine. Worked so well in 2020.
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26/03/2021 11:06:29 5 11
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Let's be sensible & not make silly, emotive claims about people being driven by fear.
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26/03/2021 10:41:12 20 12
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A third wave is now likely even if there is no new mutants. Get a vaccine as soon as you can the only way to get back to normal.
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26/03/2021 10:55:42 13 9
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deluded if you think your old normal is returning,
26/03/2021 21:15:57 0 0
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maybe those not had the vaccine stay in don't go out So the rest of us can have some fun.
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26/03/2021 10:42:30 177 41
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A third wave of positive PCR tests is not a problem. If we had a “wave” of positive flu tests it doesn’t mean anything. The high-risk have been vaccinated. Young people are fine. We need to be pragmatic about this and get on with our lives. Anyone is more than welcome to lock themselves in a cupboard for the rest of their lives if they wish.
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26/03/2021 10:58:00 129 18
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The vaccine protects against 100% of severe disease, every vulnerable person will have been offered it soon. Whatever infection rates are is irrelevant. It's like worrying about common cold infection rates.

If people are really worried about their health they should stop smoking and lose some weight.
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26/03/2021 11:07:57 10 0
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Totally agree - and what is worth bearing in mind is this is largely an increase in +ve tests from 700k a day LF tests not PCR which we all know are not bad, but also not 100% accurate, so a good % of the presented +ve cases could be false positive...it really is not an issue at all, if we had seen a jump in the last 3 weeks from say 5K to 15K then it would be more of a worry.
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26/03/2021 11:33:57 5 9
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Don't try to bring flu into this - this is not flu.
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26/03/2021 11:36:34 9 4
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Correct, would you contact my GP please, he is still in his cupboard (counting his cash I presume.)
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26/03/2021 11:52:48 6 6
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What's the point in explaining the history of virus spread and mutation which means next month it could target and kill young people in the millions, or something else completely, the virus itself needs to be killed, who it kills today isn't the whole problem, we shouldn't be breeding it, we are nearly there, I can wait a bit longer for my drink or wedding or party or god session or whatever!
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26/03/2021 12:37:08 1 1
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Don't be so damned sensible! What are you, some sort sort of pragmatist who lives ion the real world? Tch. (well said).
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26/03/2021 12:55:39 0 1
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Quite, where they'll die of thrombosis anyway!
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26/03/2021 12:58:15 1 1
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Young people are not fine, have you seen the latest infection rates for 5 - 15 year olds?
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26/03/2021 13:07:59 2 0
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@"The high-risk have been vaccinated. Young people are fine. We need to be pragmatic about this and get on with our lives. Anyone is more than welcome to lock themselves in a cupboard for the rest of their lives if they wish"
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Absolutely

Boris is just playing dictator now

Look at deaths vs positive tests.

The fatality rate is now very low.

Doesn't justify the restrictions on freedom
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26/03/2021 10:42:49 9 10
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The BBC know they have a huge, privileged impact on public opinion.
They know HMG doesn't make a move without sampling that opinion.
So as a result(and this article is a good example)are they leading a Govt who know only how to follow, along an agenda of their choice(safety first at any cost) without any ultimate accountability?
I can't make sense of their relentless fear mongering any other way.
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26/03/2021 11:15:28 1 1
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Please provide evidence that this is the case. You over-estimate the BBC's influence both on public opinion and on HMG.
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26/03/2021 11:19:10 0 0
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Does the BBC scare you? Seriously?

I wouldn't watch it if that was the case for you.

Really very simple.,
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26/03/2021 10:42:58 36 17
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if the third wave is in mainland europe, do what NZ did and properly shut down the boarders! let that wave flatten and then go back to travel.. we seem to be banned from Holidays anyway so what real harm will a full shutdown do..
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26/03/2021 10:47:58 18 4
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That's holidays for most. The Rich will just pay the fine and the businesses will right it off to expenses. Should have made it £50k
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26/03/2021 10:48:37 9 0
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What is your definition of a full shutdown? If it is 'completely close the borders and never let anyone in' then the answer to your question 'what real harm will a full shutdown do' is that we starve.
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26/03/2021 10:52:52 3 1
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What have residential school pupils got to do with this?
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26/03/2021 11:55:54 1 0
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if New Zealand ran the same PCR tests that we did, they might find they had a lot of asymptomatic patients they didn't know about.
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26/03/2021 13:01:18 0 0
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Go on an educational course. Travel for education is still allowed. Try doing a yachting course in Croatia.
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26/03/2021 10:43:01 8 9
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BBC....Big Bad Covid!
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26/03/2021 11:14:01 1 1
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For once, I'm on the side of the BBC.
They're doing their job as a public information service.

What do you want them to do; say nothing & pretend everything is hunky-dory?

That's a guaranteed way to ensure a future wave is far worse than it could have been.
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26/03/2021 10:43:05 49 20
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Any reaction at this point, in the UK anyway, will be much worse than just letting things run its course. More kids getting infected? So what? Close schools again for no good reason? Everyone who's vulnerable and old has already had the vaccine, so let's just get on with things. Some numbers matter, and others do not.
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26/03/2021 10:51:42 36 16
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Everyone who's old and vulnerable has NOT already had the vaccine. I've a 35 year old friend with MS still not had her first shot and its unclear how well it works on people with limited immune systems (like people on chemo etc).
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26/03/2021 11:21:01 3 5
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The vast majority have only had half a vaccine.
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26/03/2021 11:15:54 5 8
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Utter nonsense.
The majority have had ONE of their doses of the vaccine & thus are NOT fully protected.
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26/03/2021 11:29:54 4 3
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That's a very glib attitude to take with other peoples lives. Did you not read the article where it stated that school kids aren't an issue at school, it's when they get home that there could be problems.

Also numbers do matter, you would certainly not want yours in the debit column.
26/03/2021 17:47:15 0 0
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Wow just wow the lack of education is astonishing....we are only a modicum less vulnerable as we were this time last year even with all the vaccination, why because it is a global pandemic, not enough people in this world have been vaccinated to control Coroni, add to that the mutations and you should realise this all still very much matters.
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26/03/2021 10:43:06 177 28
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Fear is addictive to many. It's like a drug they need. Stop feeding people the fear drug, because if you continue, the whole point of vaccination will come into question.
Vaccination is supposed to be a way out of this, so let it be so.
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26/03/2021 10:55:58 107 42
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The vaccine is 100% effective against severe disease. Anybody with the vaccine should have no fear. It doesn't matter what anybody else does, YOU are safe.
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26/03/2021 10:57:02 9 8
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Agreed, but fear is what sells papers (or internet hits) and the BBC are no better at fuelling this fire than any other media outlet
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26/03/2021 11:03:18 14 7
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If fear of a third wave prompts more people to get vaccinated then this is a good thing. We can't keep lurching from one lockdown to another, most of us want our lives back to normal.
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26/03/2021 11:12:58 19 7
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Do you think it would be responsible for the BBC to be making headlines like 'everything is fine there won't be any more problems' all of a sudden? They're not publishing these articles just to scare you. Just because the news is sometimes scary doesn't mean it's all just scaremongering. It's just basic public information.
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26/03/2021 11:15:55 19 12
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I got vaccinated mainly to try to do my bit to end the restrictions and the lethal lockdowns.
With the passing of the extension of the powers in the Coronavirus Bill, it looks like I was vaccinated for nothing.
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26/03/2021 11:39:25 4 2
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An extension of your argument could be that alcohol is addictive to some and therefore we should stop its sale. You probably don't agree with that (neither do I) and are free to make your own choice with regards to its consumption. We should allow the same latitude with an article from the BBC , let people take from it what they will.
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26/03/2021 12:06:08 4 1
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But the BBC's master, Bozo, told us a 3rd wave from Europe is inevitable, so they are only doing what they are told.

And remember it's the Kent variant causing the problems in Europe.

We do not know how effective vaccines will be against variants, which is why the whole world should follow the examples of S Korea, Vietnam, Japan, NZ and Australia.
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26/03/2021 13:20:02 2 1
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But ignorance is so much more preferable. If the BBC had told no-one about covid-19 in the first place, there would have been no fear! What you assume (on the basis of what's going on in your head) causes fear for many is valuable information as to how to live their lives over the next few months.
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26/03/2021 13:46:23 0 0
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Because ignorance is bliss, right?

Ironic, is it not, that our excellent vaccination program is a direct result of foresight - actually taking account and acting on the "dire predictions" by scientists.

There's an (evolutionary) reason why humans and other animals experience fear: it's to discourage them from doing stupid things and harming themselves.
26/03/2021 15:03:04 0 1
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Project Fear is Huxley's Soma in Brave New World.
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26/03/2021 10:43:12 7 14
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Ban travel to and from the UK until there are safe zones around the world. Then at least ,we in the UK can get on with our lives.
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26/03/2021 10:50:22 4 1
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That'll include all the trucks from Europe bringing 60% of our food will it? The EU doesn't need to worry about a vaccine export ban... you've just imposed an import ban!
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26/03/2021 10:54:03 0 1
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Agree!
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26/03/2021 10:43:47 300 73
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Was this article really necessary?

What exactly does it bring to the table other than wild speculation and fear?

I am constantly defending the BBC and its news coverage especially but you don't help matters when a 'news' article is not based on the facts of what is happening but on speculating what could happen in such & such a case.

Stick to news - facts of the day. Not speculation.
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26/03/2021 11:08:15 116 146
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The BBC are simply following their Government directive to spread fear in support of their subjugation of Parliamentary process and scrutiny
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26/03/2021 11:11:00 24 10
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If you go to gov.uk you'll find that the SAGE group have modelled what will happen when restrictions are lifted, including how many are likely to die. In that sense this article is only serving up in a more accessible form what the scientists and politicians expect to happen. Call that speculation if you like but I think people have a right to know.
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26/03/2021 11:33:49 18 15
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Actually reporting news, not one of the BBC's strongpoints.
Expressing opinion, and even worse, trying to sway opinion is what they seem to be about.
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26/03/2021 11:30:02 25 7
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Why are you using emotive terms like "wild speculation" & "fear" to describe what is for once, a pretty well balanced article?
What it brings to the table is information which helps explain to the hard of thinking why, when restrictions are lifted, they still need to be somewhat circumspect in their social mixing.
Seems sensible to me.
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26/03/2021 11:48:03 9 6
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BoJo has been talking about a third wave, so why can't the BBC................?

Obviously doesn't support your narrow narrative.........?
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26/03/2021 11:53:25 5 1
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Surely the speculation is that of the scientists quoted, rather than the BBC. Imagine the news over the last 12 months if it only reported facts and not speculation or opinion.
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26/03/2021 12:05:54 1 7
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But the BBC's master, Bozo, told us a 3rd wave from Europe is inevitable, so they are only doing what they are told.

And remember it's the Kent variant causing the problems in Europe.

We do not know how effective vaccines will be against variants, which is why the whole world should follow the examples of S Korea, Vietnam, Japan, NZ and Australia.
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26/03/2021 12:11:18 4 1
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You don't think it is important to be aware of potential developments? Isn't failure to do so EXACTLY what lead to disastrous decision-making at the start of the pandemic (re. border closures, rapid lockdown and the care-home debacle)? By contrast, our successful vaccination program was a DIRECT result of well-thought-out future planning.
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26/03/2021 12:19:20 4 8
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Exactly what I thought. The media in general now are getting frustrated at the lack of a rise in numbers and finding little negative to report in the UK so now are focusing on things that might never happen all reported with a solemn, negative and scaremongering tone.
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26/03/2021 12:26:32 4 2
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they're just being honest - the untested vaccine isnt the magic bullet a lot of the oldies think it is
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26/03/2021 12:37:01 8 0
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You're wrong. Information does not cause fear. Ignorance does.
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26/03/2021 12:38:23 1 8
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My thoughts entirely. Keep scaring people at every turn unnecessarily. BBC are useless anyway.
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26/03/2021 12:47:36 3 2
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So much of the pandemic coverage has been speculation by various members of the media, designed to sell their particular product rather than anything else. Now that the threat is receding we can expect more of this type of speculative junk. I would say I expect better of the BBC but after this last year I really don't...
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26/03/2021 13:08:40 6 0
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It's called informing people. What the BBC is supposed to do. I suppose you are one of those for whom ignorance is bliss.
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26/03/2021 13:18:57 0 3
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sadly, that has been the BBC way all along throughout this pandemic. towing the govt line and promoting its fear-laden diatribe to cover-up from the mess they made at the outset!!
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26/03/2021 13:23:29 1 3
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It is predictive programming to create normalcy bias so people accept further lockdowns.
This whole thing has been a huge PsyOp from the start.

The real conspiracy theory is that Western nation states are the permanent epicentre of a "deadly" pandemic out of Asia with 99.9% survivability, average age of death of 84+ & annual mortality average when deducting 60k excess deaths caused by lockdowns!
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26/03/2021 16:36:56 1 2
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I suspect you will find the purpose of the News is not to tell you the facts of the day, but to tell you what to think. It wants you to be scared. It also wants to lube your mind for the planned "third wave" of this scam.
26/03/2021 17:27:14 1 0
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I'm fed up with the media constantly putting the fear of God into us over this virus . Unfortunately it needs to be done . Think back to last summer when we were in a rush to ease restrictions , the virus was spreading quietly just waiting for the inevitable surge . Now people think we've got it beat but we've got a way to go and another surge is more likely than not
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26/03/2021 10:40:26 77 36
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Let’s keep the fear going.
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26/03/2021 10:43:57 63 77
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There was a man in my village who uttered exactly those words. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
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26/03/2021 10:45:19 17 7
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He should’ve followed government advice.
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26/03/2021 10:52:35 32 9
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Tune in next week for another exciting episode of, 'Things Which Didn't Happen'
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26/03/2021 10:59:50 23 7
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He should've got the vaccine then, it's 100% effective against severe disease.
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26/03/2021 11:09:35 6 1
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Why did he die?
Just the one idiot left now? Removed
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26/03/2021 11:45:17 10 4
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Good story, didn't happen though did it.
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26/03/2021 12:01:58 5 1
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who cares
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PJ
26/03/2021 12:04:33 7 0
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And? We all will die.
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26/03/2021 12:19:03 5 0
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Source: Trust me dude.
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26/03/2021 12:36:14 1 1
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Sounds like you made that up.
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26/03/2021 13:11:27 1 1
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You had better stay in permanent isolation then, if this is true. Good luck.
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26/03/2021 13:20:58 4 1
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You sound like that Lex Luther bloke who told us last month that he personally knew 4 healthy twenty year olds who had died in the previous week. Another lockdown zealot making stuff up.
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26/03/2021 14:15:11 1 1
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Ran over by a bus? Struck by lightening both far more likely than being killed BY covid.
26/03/2021 16:14:25 0 0
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there were also millions of others who didn't
26/03/2021 17:31:09 0 0
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Nope. Made up or exaggerated
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26/03/2021 10:43:58 134 39
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When did the BBC stop reporting the news which has happened and started to troll out endless 'Chicken Little' articles?

I remember when it broke stories like the drought in Ethiopia and had cutting edge journo's...

Once a respected and trust media source it's now just another one of those 'if it bleeds, it leads' media click baiters...
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26/03/2021 10:52:07 23 16
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Journo's what?
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26/03/2021 10:53:35 8 5
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***STOP PRESS***
Actual news is still available on channels like AlJazeera and some other foreign outlets. I do realise Brits used to their own rolling "news" outlets may find this difficult to believe.
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26/03/2021 11:24:37 9 5
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They can't afford real journalists... got to pay for those Diversity Advisors and Ethics Managers somehow
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26/03/2021 12:06:39 1 0
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It started with the 'success' of the Aberfan reporting and the accolades that sticking a microphone in a grieving mother's face received in the reporting world.

Then Murdock picked this sensationalist style and took it to extremes, sadly now the BBC think it's the only way to compete.
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mm
26/03/2021 12:09:57 0 0
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well said - it's encouraging a self-centred trend
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26/03/2021 13:00:47 2 0
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So what are you doing here then?
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26/03/2021 13:09:00 1 0
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It's what the BBC thinks 'dumbed down England' wants.
Look how well the Daily Mail, Express and Sun profit, as an example.
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26/03/2021 14:23:03 0 0
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‘If it bleeds... More like if it’s a bleeding Heart story.
26/03/2021 16:23:15 0 1
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The BBC reports what it's told to report. There are no journalists. Even the foreign correspondents are fed the script.....rarely to they investigate and challenge,
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26/03/2021 10:44:23 46 19
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Articles like this only encourage the already terrified Government and population into even more draconian measures. We should be looking at steps forward not back.
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26/03/2021 10:51:38 17 37
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126,000+ !
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26/03/2021 10:57:16 4 1
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Doesn't say much about our government if they base their policies on random news articles......
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26/03/2021 11:32:36 3 8
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Hyperbolic nonsense.
The government isn't terrified.
The population isn't terrified.
The measures aren't draconian.
We ARE making steps forward.

But don't let that get in the way of you making wild & unsubstantiated claims...
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26/03/2021 10:44:32 16 10
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Get to the continent if you want to see a third wave there is little chance of a third wave here. Ps I'm still waiting for the much heralded spike in infections after the schools went back. Another case of the media wringing every last drop out of an old news story? Discuss.
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26/03/2021 10:57:51 2 2
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Infections are going up rapidly in school age children tbf
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26/03/2021 11:09:01 1 0
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Still waiting? Just look at the data; infections have stopped falling and started rising again.
Which is what was expected, and was accepted by the government as an acceptable risk. Whether they'll get away with it remains to be seen.
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26/03/2021 11:10:31 0 0
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If you read the story, you’ll see that there is a small rise in infections which is being linked to schools returning. Especially in the south east of England.
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26/03/2021 11:38:43 0 0
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Schools went back 17 days ago.
What did you expect to happen; mass infections beginning on day 1?

Child A is infectious & asymptomatic, goes to school & 2 days later has infected 2 chums.
It takes 7-10 days for infections to be noted & another 7-10 before those THEY have infected are noted.
As the article says, there IS a small uptick in child infections.
It'll be 2 weeks before the spike shows.
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26/03/2021 10:39:46 255 43
bbc
If there’s a third wave then it’s a global failure. There’s a vaccine that can almost make this illness on par with a 3 day sickness bug, but it seems the whole world is hell bent on screwing everyone else over. I guess we all need better leadership
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26/03/2021 10:44:39 171 135
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the EU are showing true colours with this, threatening and actually blocking vaccine shipments. and they are even with holding them internally to the block too. Utter madness that if you can do it why would you not. we do a flu one every year and it works, so get on and get this one done.
63
26/03/2021 10:52:12 41 52
bbc
Should the UK get all the vaccines produced ahead of everyone else ?

And please don't justify a response with "we signed contracts first".
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26/03/2021 10:56:29 48 7
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The EU have messed up, that's clear. Here in Germany recently 1 million people in Berlin were invited to have their first jab, 65% of them didn't turn up!!
I've asked friends and family in the UK about the vaccine, they all want it (can't wait in fact).
I've asked friends and colleagues here and I'd say 80% of them don't want it.
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26/03/2021 10:57:17 49 19
bbc
Ironically the EU has actually received more Astra Zeneca doses than the UK even though they got their order in months later! Their spat with AZ has nothing to do with AZ its politically motivated! Why are they not shouting at Pfizer?
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26/03/2021 10:53:06 27 16
bbc
The EU have exported more vaccines than any other area in the world though.

I guarantee you if we were the ones exporting millions of vaccines whilst our own people had not being vaccinated. You would be baying for Johnson to do exactly what the EU have done and prioritise our own people first........
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26/03/2021 11:14:18 18 3
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Turned out factory the EU raided was stuck full of vaccines for Belgium and COVAX. THe EU hasn't exported any vacciness only private companies with plants in the EU. Talkpof the EU sequestering the IP involved, though their bogey man AZ has given it away , will deter companies that rely on IP from building plants in the EU. Even Macron says the EU response has been shambolic.
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26/03/2021 11:21:50 9 15
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How many jabs have been stopped from coming to the UK so far?

Are you going to flag up India? No? That’s a little odd. So what’s your real beef? Not difficult to see you real agenda... ????
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dan
26/03/2021 11:34:46 7 8
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Unfortunately it's shown the absolute worst in human nature, and that includes OUR response as well. I wonder what poorer countries think of us ordering SEVEN vaccines per person while they're struggling to get any. I'm not saying I'm not thankful and that I would prefer the gov to do different, but maybe we need some reflection that we are the good guys in pretty much our minds only.
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26/03/2021 11:56:35 5 10
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What, the promised Brexit la-la land not quite working out then? You’ve got sovereignty what else do you need? Are the nasty European’s not playing by your rules anymore? Didn’t Johnson discuss the trade deals as part of his ‘no deal’ approach to bringing about Brexit at the end of December? The NHS are still waiting for their first £350m per week payment, any news on that?
525
26/03/2021 11:57:23 2 8
bbc
Nope be accurate. The USA didn't approve the oxford jab till the start of the week, yet you go for the EU who approved and used it for under 65's and then for voer 65's when the testing had been done - Johnson gambled as you know. Then reports of blood clots - check - not a serious problem restart.
Too much need to show a success from brexit clouds the truth
531
26/03/2021 11:50:07 7 14
bbc
Why do you care?

The EU is nothing to do with you any more

Ignore them and have a look at your own government that you elected

A criminal gang of callous lying grasping thieves
735
26/03/2021 12:40:47 6 0
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Its not the EU is it... its not the European people is it?... its politicians and bureaucrats who are looking for anything that they can use to hide their own ineptitude??
783
26/03/2021 12:50:26 4 7
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The EU has exported 46m vaccines, the biggest recipient (10m) of which went to the UK. The UK has exported a grand total of ZERO vaccines.

True colours indeed.
810
26/03/2021 12:55:13 2 5
bbc
You mean like the UK as already blocked exports of the vaccine produced within its borders?
848
26/03/2021 13:05:52 1 2
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Utter nonsense from you. Bet you voted for the brexit debacle.
903
26/03/2021 13:19:40 2 0
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The US have banned the export of vaccines...

It would be interesting to actually find out how many vaccines made in the UK have been exported around the world too...

I'm in no way bashing the UK here but I can't help but feel that the full story isn't known
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26/03/2021 13:48:11 0 3
bbc
As opposed to the good old UK breaking international law in the Brexit negotiations I suppose. Joker.
26/03/2021 14:49:20 0 1
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The good old EU, Eh!!!
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26/03/2021 10:44:48 101 47
bbc
With all those over 50 and the vulnerable jagged we shouldn't fear Covid at all. We cannot carry on being petrified by something that cannot harm the vast majority of the population. Our leaders have completely lost sight of the level of threat Covid now is, if they won't stop the fear mongering we have to stop them.
71
26/03/2021 10:53:29 62 67
bbc
they hugely over stated the threat from the start and ever since have been trying to save face rather than admit it
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26/03/2021 10:58:44 25 2
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Spot on.

"After all, 99% of Covid deaths have been in the groups now vaccinated"

Move on ffs
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26/03/2021 11:06:11 11 20
bbc
So you would be happy to cause tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths and cause millions of people to have chronic long term health conditions, simply because you don't understand how bad this thing really is?
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26/03/2021 10:55:50 10 13
bbc
Well it can harm people if it mutates and causes the vaccine to become less effective.

That's kind of the whole point of the article......
880
26/03/2021 13:13:18 0 1
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Just take long, hard look at who those 'leaders' are. No surprise. They want to control everything.
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26/03/2021 10:44:54 35 17
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Not another speculative, doom mongering article - too many people who don't have a life and resent the majority that do. It would be sensible to ramp down general testing, but increase targeted testing and sequencing for new variants, further develop treatments and more agile vaccines. The fear has to be replaced by a pragmatic acceptance of risk to regain freedom.
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26/03/2021 11:15:52 15 5
bbc
Imagine what the money currently spent on testing could be spent on instead
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26/03/2021 12:08:21 1 1
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Not one mention from the BBC that when you're doing so many lateral flow tests per day in an environment where prevalence of the virus is low you're going to get a number of false positives that far outweigh the false negatives. But SAGE want some nice big numbers so that they can blackmail Boris into abandoning the easing of house arrest.
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26/03/2021 10:45:12 1 4
bbc
You can hear the click of Triggle's heals as Davie walks past.
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26/03/2021 10:43:57 63 77
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There was a man in my village who uttered exactly those words. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
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26/03/2021 10:45:19 17 7
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He should’ve followed government advice.
26/03/2021 16:15:04 0 0
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he was probably 82... obese and smoked 40 a day
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26/03/2021 10:45:57 58 7
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I don't think that Joe Public will put up with another lockdown over Summer and Autumn. I'm fervently hoping the vaccine take up will break the chain of infection / lockdown / closures.
111
26/03/2021 10:50:56 15 7
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We will.. look at all the jobs that have gone.. and people still are apathetic.
214
26/03/2021 11:12:27 14 6
bbc
Sadly Joe Public seem rather oblivious to the damage lock down causes, partly because the media are so obsessed with covid covid covid screw everything else
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26/03/2021 11:17:26 10 1
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I really wish I believed that. We seem to have failed to give the young the training we all had in civics from family members who had seen two world wars and the rise and fall of Europe's catastrophic experiment in [not]communism. And the old have been terrified. I don't like to think of the health consequences for the older relative who hasn't left the house for a year - osteoporosis and...?
527
26/03/2021 11:48:50 10 3
bbc
Just read through some of the comments on here then. There are a lot of morons who think we can lockdown forever without any consequences.
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26/03/2021 13:11:02 2 0
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DOn't worry: there won't be.
886
26/03/2021 13:15:15 0 0
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What exactly do you think Joe would do?
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26/03/2021 10:46:11 3 4
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I wish I knew what a thirs wave would ook like but hope we can avoid it. But Johnson and the scientists can't keep hiding behind "we did know this 12 months ago". Incredibly Singapore, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, Cambodia and China all seem to have realised very very soon what the danger was and reacted accordingly.
I know where i'd like to be right now
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26/03/2021 10:52:24 6 3
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maybe go there then if you find it so appealing
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26/03/2021 10:48:57 1 0
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Hahahahahaha! What a ridiculous comment. Youd like to live in a society controlled by a social credit system? Madness.
25
26/03/2021 10:46:14 11 7
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Speculation is not news.
Speculation can be twisted into a set agenda.
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26/03/2021 11:43:54 0 0
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Scientists make models and plan ahead (not enough, unfortunately). Governments make policy based on this, so it is worth reporting.

.. and frankly "opinion, not news" seems to the raison d'être of the British press, so I presume to pay no attention to any of that?
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amb
26/03/2021 10:46:24 78 18
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Maybe it's time to be a bit more positive
Giving people some hope that they might actually get their lives back sometime soon wouldn't be a bad thing
All this negativity all the time is so draining
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26/03/2021 10:46:29 17 7
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A third wave is coming, there's little doubt of it. As soon as lockdown is lifted, cases will spike. The vaccination program should greatly blunt it though.
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26/03/2021 13:12:01 0 0
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and it will mainly affect the young who are at very low risk.
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26/03/2021 10:46:35 8 14
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So this one is orange, shockarooney, the fourth, fifth, and sixth waves will be sky blue, lime green, and a whiter shade of pale, we will of course all be fine as we will be vaccinated.
Unfortunately the governments, including devolved, will use them to enforce further business closures and internment throughout the UK.
Extended powers are there for reasons,all political, not health.
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26/03/2021 10:46:59 4 5
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Could, maybe, possibly, perhaps..everything apart from a definitive statement. It’s either an issue or it’s not. If people in the top priority groups have not yet had the jab get it done now just in case.
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26/03/2021 10:47:08 34 3
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I am hopeful that with the majority of vulnerable groups now vaccinated then whilst we may see a spike in cases there will be a much smaller increase in hospitalisations and deaths.
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26/03/2021 11:42:52 22 20
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They're NOT fully vaccinated.
How many times does it have to be pointed out that you need BOTH doses to become fully protected.
528
26/03/2021 11:57:35 4 0
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Yes, in fact it's likely that even if cases rise hospitalisations and deaths would continue falling. We've seen this since schools went back, cases have risen in school age children (though a lot of this will be due to increased testing) but continued to fall in all other age groups and are down over 20% week on week in the over 60s and hospitalisations and deaths have continued to plummet.
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26/03/2021 10:47:18 10 6
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It will mean we have to put up with the every day doom and gloom media bombarding us.
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26/03/2021 10:42:58 36 17
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if the third wave is in mainland europe, do what NZ did and properly shut down the boarders! let that wave flatten and then go back to travel.. we seem to be banned from Holidays anyway so what real harm will a full shutdown do..
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26/03/2021 10:47:58 18 4
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That's holidays for most. The Rich will just pay the fine and the businesses will right it off to expenses. Should have made it £50k
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26/03/2021 10:48:03 5 10
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There will now be a wave every year ad infinitum, just like the flu.
In other news we are all going to die.
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26/03/2021 11:13:41 0 0
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Yeah but I really feel we should insist on living first rather sitting in boxes waiting for it to happen.
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26/03/2021 10:48:09 2 6
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The hair of BoJo!
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26/03/2021 10:48:15 6 12
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My fear is that everyone gets C19 vaccinated and then the usual/common flu, which kills 10,000's a year is then re-interpreted as C19 and we're go back into lockdown from Oct - April every single year
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26/03/2021 10:50:42 7 4
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It won't happen
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26/03/2021 10:48:21 8 14
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Third Wave is going to be the last experiment of imposing the total and ultimate control as in the book The Wave. Obey and follow for your furlough money. Otherwise will cut you off. Stay quiet, save the Tory control and their never ending ruling which will last 1000 years.
Total control of society. There won't be any sign of Covid but we shall still have the Tories. That's the saddest part.
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26/03/2021 10:42:58 36 17
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if the third wave is in mainland europe, do what NZ did and properly shut down the boarders! let that wave flatten and then go back to travel.. we seem to be banned from Holidays anyway so what real harm will a full shutdown do..
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26/03/2021 10:48:37 9 0
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What is your definition of a full shutdown? If it is 'completely close the borders and never let anyone in' then the answer to your question 'what real harm will a full shutdown do' is that we starve.
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26/03/2021 10:49:15 32 2
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Two givens for future waves:

The virus will spread.

The vaccine should prevent a good number of severe cases and deaths.

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26/03/2021 10:50:45 30 2
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Covid is here to stay. Just got to get used to it and adapt.

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kh
26/03/2021 11:57:56 0 0
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You're so missed out the economy will suffer more damage.

And people are getting increasingly bored and hostile to the policies of the government.

What is the government to do force compliance more than they have already done so? Or do they just relax and let us make decisions for ourselves.
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26/03/2021 10:39:30 239 63
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I really think the BBC saying 'Should we be worried' and 'how bad could it be' does not help matters in these difficult times
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26/03/2021 10:49:19 140 82
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As long as there's a significant (and growing?) proportion of the population with denier and/or reckless tendencies it's probably helpful to remind people of the continuing risks. It's far from impossible that we'll end up back where we were 12 months ago with new variants.
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26/03/2021 11:13:18 18 13
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The deniers are the people who say we should just suck it up when talking about the prolongation of restrictions, they don't seem to care about deaths and other deleterious effects of blanket restrictions and lockdowns. And the reckless are those who back a failed experiment (lockdown) over previously successful methods of containing an epidemic.
If these fanatics are stopped things will improve.
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26/03/2021 11:27:27 16 1
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The variants would have to completely evade any protection from infection and severe symptoms for us to be back where we were 12 months ago
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26/03/2021 11:31:57 11 18
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WE HAVE A VACCINE WITH 100% EFFECTIVENESS AGAINST SEVERE DISEASE
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dan
26/03/2021 11:32:15 18 12
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Maybe it's time to ask the question of whether it is actually WORTH destroying our economy and lives for an illness where the average age of mortality is only a couple years less than the average life expectancy in the UK anyway.

I'm all for doing our bit while there's hope of a vaccine working, if that gets to a point where it isn't possible, maybe it's time to accept that we all die eventually
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26/03/2021 11:48:06 8 0
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Actually, it is impossible. The chance of a new variant for which the existing vaccines have no effect at all is negligible and it's far quicker to adjust the vaccine to any variant than it is to tweak the vaccine for any new variants (which will only require a single booster dose anyway) than it was to develop a vaccine from scratch.
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26/03/2021 11:51:37 7 4
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What is actually reckless is to have the restrictions we have in place now when the data is clearly showing they're no longer necessary.
Temperatures are rising, which we know reduces transmission, despite whan many predicted children returning to school has not led to a rise in cases and hospitalisations and deaths are falling just as quickly as beforer and are now below normal levels.
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mm
26/03/2021 12:04:18 6 2
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denier is a grade of stockings - try 'denyer'.
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26/03/2021 12:44:06 2 3
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Lets face it there have been 'new' variants around since last April (ie 2020) and thousands have been identified. Funny how in the UK new variants didn't make an appearance until they were really useful to try and deflect from the shambles of poor decisions made by the UK government re the Christmas 'rules'
BC
26/03/2021 16:38:08 0 0
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This proportion of the population happen to be the only ones who have been predicting what is going to happen correctly. I dare say it might be prudent to open your heart a little to possibilities, not reject outright?
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26/03/2021 10:49:19 6 6
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The death rate will be 76.123% in the third wave... and everybody will have a mustache... even women and kids. It will be that bad.
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26/03/2021 10:49:22 30 18
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Every action so far has been aimed at stopping our hospitals being overwhelmed and people dying a nasty death at home or in a hospital corridor. With so many vaccinated now, this is unlikely to happen. I'd like to see anti-vaccers charged for their care if they end up ICU.
347
26/03/2021 11:23:00 10 2
bbc
How about he charge fat people for their type 2 diabetes drugs? Or drinkers for their liver disease? Or lung cancer patients for their smoking?

You see how INSANE that attitude is????
587
26/03/2021 12:05:29 2 0
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Look up how few people are in hospital and ICU. This is no longer about the virus and it hasn't been for some time. Will you still hold that view on anti-vaccers when the government are mandating a different jab every week, for whatever they decide is necessary?
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26/03/2021 10:49:24 7 4
bbc
'What might a third wave look like?'

You can see Calais from Dover.
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26/03/2021 10:49:34 68 29
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Why bring in fines for foreign travel, why not just ban it outright. Airports and ports should be open for freight only, with truckers and aircrews being regularly tested.

With that and our vaccine program the third wave should be little more than a ripple.
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26/03/2021 11:01:24 16 25
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The South Africa and Brazillian variants are already in our country.

The government is keeping that quiet for now but we already have 100's of cases of both of them.

The numbers are relatively low for now because we are in lockdown. But as this reopening progresses they'll start to go up rapidly. It's then a question of how effective the AZ vaccine is against them!
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26/03/2021 11:45:36 3 2
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Because there IS such a thing as essential travel.
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26/03/2021 10:49:48 16 11
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A comment about modelling predicting that up to 30000 could die by summer 2022 even with vaccine and other measures has to make you wonder whether this wonder vaccine actually works at all! Although then again Ferguson's predictions were so inaccurate for previous waves it makes you wonder if they get the numbers from the barcode on a fag packet
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26/03/2021 11:01:28 5 5
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The scientific predictions were pretty accurate. The reason they didn't come to pass was because of the response - restrictions and lockdowns reduced the impact dramatically.
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26/03/2021 11:53:00 0 0
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Deaths are currently averaging 75 a day with infections at 6,000, therefore it's quite possible if infections go back up to 20,000 a day (they peaked at 60,000) for us to see 30,000 deaths by mid September 2022, which is 55 a day.
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26/03/2021 10:50:05 5 5
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Ultimately, the important question for strategy is not 'how bad could a third wave be?' but 'Is there anything that can be done to reduce the impact which passes a cost-benefit analysis?'.
Delaying infections kicks the can down the road. The question is whether that is worth the cost, given that any third wave will be massively reduced by vaccination
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26/03/2021 10:43:12 7 14
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Ban travel to and from the UK until there are safe zones around the world. Then at least ,we in the UK can get on with our lives.
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26/03/2021 10:50:22 4 1
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That'll include all the trucks from Europe bringing 60% of our food will it? The EU doesn't need to worry about a vaccine export ban... you've just imposed an import ban!
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26/03/2021 10:50:28 62 32
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We've done our bit to protect the old and the sick.
We're extremely compliant and doing really well in the vaccination programme.
We're totally sick of the brutal lockdown some (even low rate) areas have suffered for almost a year and want to get on with our lives and socialise and travel again.
Please BBC just stop this project covid fear nonsense.
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FF
26/03/2021 11:17:21 30 21
bbc
Is the BBC scaring you? Don't watch it.

SIMPLE.
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26/03/2021 11:28:14 5 11
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So, your approach to walking across a minefield is that you'd just rather not know it was there. That way when you get blown up it comes as a complete surprise without any of that distressing anxiety beforehand. Each to his own.
540
26/03/2021 11:53:57 3 9
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It's NOT a "brutal lockdown".
That's sheer hyperbole.
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26/03/2021 12:54:13 1 0
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your article is spot on apart from the 'extremely compliant' point. Have you seen the essential journey traffic volumes in Lockdown.....
897
26/03/2021 13:17:45 1 0
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Well 'project fear' turned out to be correct for brexit, so why not Covid?
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26/03/2021 13:30:53 1 1
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It's easy to blame the BBC isn't it...

I'm sure it's all their fault.
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26/03/2021 10:50:32 18 12
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The 3rd wave will unfortunately look like whatever you, the media want it to look like. Your scaremongering sees no bounds and people are not allowed to see any light. By the time you stop banging on about wave 3 and wave 4, it will be that back to the start of the queue as the vaccine is waring off. Too soon, too soon. Wave 5 wave 246. Get off the peoples backs for crying out loud
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26/03/2021 11:23:21 1 6
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This isn't scaremongering, it's forward planning and we could have done with a bit more of it before now.
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26/03/2021 10:48:15 6 12
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My fear is that everyone gets C19 vaccinated and then the usual/common flu, which kills 10,000's a year is then re-interpreted as C19 and we're go back into lockdown from Oct - April every single year
49
26/03/2021 10:50:42 7 4
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It won't happen
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26/03/2021 10:52:15 0 3
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Which bit?
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26/03/2021 10:41:43 4 11
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Rolling lockdowns forever.. another conspiracy theory coming true. After covid itll be about the climate.. too much apathy to prevent it.
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26/03/2021 10:40:26 77 36
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Let’s keep the fear going.
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26/03/2021 10:43:13 20 18
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You're right - lets put our fingers in our ears and pretend everything will be fine. Worked so well in 2020.
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26/03/2021 10:40:25 11 17
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We'll find out soon enough. There are plenty of idiots out there who are going to drag the country back down into the next wave. Hopefully it will not be as lethal as the first and our incompetent politicians will have learned their lessons.
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26/03/2021 10:49:15 32 2
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Two givens for future waves:

The virus will spread.

The vaccine should prevent a good number of severe cases and deaths.

________________________
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26/03/2021 10:50:45 30 2
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Covid is here to stay. Just got to get used to it and adapt.

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26/03/2021 11:02:20 1 1
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Got it in Feb 2020 when it wasn't meant to be here. Did it mess me up quite badly for a month and was worse than flu? Yes. Am I scared of it? No.
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26/03/2021 11:13:53 1 1
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We adapted - we asked the appropriate scientists to come up with vaccines, we used them/are still getting them. The end.
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26/03/2021 10:50:47 55 6
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Lockdown is, step-by-step, beginning to ease across the UK and is irreversible. Any third wave will involve a rise in Covid cases. However, we have 30 million people including the most vulnerable with a jab in their arms. The continued roll to of the vaccine which has been an outstanding success is the key to our future socially and economically. We have to learn to live with Covid and move on.
545
26/03/2021 11:55:16 23 13
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Those 30 million still need another jab in their arms to ensure protection for more than a few months.
26/03/2021 16:34:50 0 0
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Completely agree with you.
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26/03/2021 10:51:20 5 7
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If the vaccines work as we are told then the third wave will be a casedemic, with lots of people tested positive but minimal people actually ill and even less hospitalized. therefore if we stop this insane testing of everyone there won't be a third wave same as there isn't hysteria around lots of people having colds
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26/03/2021 10:51:23 6 4
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What might a third wave look like, well, like all the others really apart from the first. Whenever a new disease strikes, there will be a spike in deaths and serious illness, this will then drop off naturally, especially aided by a working vaccine. Subsequent waves featuring mutations will have a lower toll, but will still result in illness. This is like other viruses, we have to live with them
547
26/03/2021 11:57:07 0 0
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Right until SARS CoV-2 mutates into something more akin to the original SARS, with its 30% death rate, then we'll die with them.
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bbc
Not much social distancing outside Bateley Grammar in Yorkshire at the moment.Interesting to see how that pans out after recent events. Removed
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26/03/2021 10:53:59 22 0
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I live near Batley and can tell you that those of different cultures and heritage have a different view of the rules, especially if they impinge on the activities of those cultures.
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26/03/2021 10:57:47 11 1
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Why do we tolerate this superstitious claptrap in the 21st Century?
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26/03/2021 10:57:55 10 0
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I live down the road from Batley Grammar, drove past and there was a ridiculous crowd outside! It's just been business as usual in Batley all throughout this coronavirus!
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26/03/2021 11:01:09 14 2
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Aye, the police were quick enough to arrest nurses and women. Funny how theres never a similar response to our muslim friends kicking off about percieved insults to their imaginary friend! Oh no! What have I said, thats a jihad on me now too!
We dont need their brand of stupdity alongside everything else going on.
Ever heard... when in Rome? If you dont like it the airpirts are still open!
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26/03/2021 11:04:17 2 0
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Never mind the death threats to a school teacher for showing Charlie Hebdo cartoons. Anyone heard of Thomas Paty????
158
26/03/2021 11:06:41 3 0
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Added to the ever-growing list of exemptions for the 'ah but' brigade.
16
26/03/2021 10:44:23 46 19
bbc
Articles like this only encourage the already terrified Government and population into even more draconian measures. We should be looking at steps forward not back.
58
26/03/2021 10:51:38 17 37
bbc
126,000+ !
131
26/03/2021 11:02:03 13 3
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News came out today that 40,600 people caught covid in hospital from January to March.

If you took a random sample of hospital patients and gave them the common cold and constantly hyperventilated over common cold PCRs and 'common cold related deaths' - what proportion of those hospital patients would become 'common cold-related deaths'????

Think about it.
146
26/03/2021 11:04:45 12 2
bbc
One quarter of the average UK deaths per annum, and probably not all attributable to the current virus.
161
26/03/2021 11:07:06 18 3
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You stay safe cowering behind that sofa if you want to for the rest of your miserable existence. Life is for living, we all die of something at some point, that is guaranteed. The majority have now had enough and want to live, not merely exist!
241
26/03/2021 11:16:36 9 0
bbc
There is now a vaccine!!!!
Removed
727
26/03/2021 12:37:45 2 0
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...of people who died within 28 days of a positive PCR test result. Given the pre existing issue of PCR test's accuracy and that the criteria we use to report the number of people who died with Covid, i.e. you test positive and get hit by a bus still gets recorded as a Covid death, we are naturally going to have a high number of reported deaths with Covid.
10
26/03/2021 10:43:05 49 20
bbc
Any reaction at this point, in the UK anyway, will be much worse than just letting things run its course. More kids getting infected? So what? Close schools again for no good reason? Everyone who's vulnerable and old has already had the vaccine, so let's just get on with things. Some numbers matter, and others do not.
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26/03/2021 10:51:42 36 16
bbc
Everyone who's old and vulnerable has NOT already had the vaccine. I've a 35 year old friend with MS still not had her first shot and its unclear how well it works on people with limited immune systems (like people on chemo etc).
359
26/03/2021 11:34:09 4 1
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Agreed. I have a relative...wheelchair user with MS...still not vaccinated.
GP surgery said...”we are slowly doing the house bound”
Oh yea...
60
26/03/2021 10:52:00 18 13
bbc
Any attempt to lockdown again will almost certainly meet with mass resistance.
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26/03/2021 10:57:13 4 8
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You do not speak for the "mass resistance"

Wise up.
99
26/03/2021 10:58:20 2 2
bbc
speak for yourself
463
01
26/03/2021 11:41:16 0 0
bbc
Not a chance, there would've been massive riots by now.
15
26/03/2021 10:43:58 134 39
bbc
When did the BBC stop reporting the news which has happened and started to troll out endless 'Chicken Little' articles?

I remember when it broke stories like the drought in Ethiopia and had cutting edge journo's...

Once a respected and trust media source it's now just another one of those 'if it bleeds, it leads' media click baiters...
61
26/03/2021 10:52:07 23 16
bbc
Journo's what?
116
26/03/2021 11:00:31 3 8
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I'll give you a clue, look at the ellipsis, it means something.
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mm
26/03/2021 12:07:53 2 1
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that would journalists
854
26/03/2021 13:08:08 1 0
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Given that we appear not to be allowed to edit out our imperfect typing, maybe we could cut each other a little slack and try to encourage the Beeb to employ some copy editors and proof readers. I don't know what their excuse is for the shoddy text all over this site. I've had a non native speaker on a language learning site try to convince me that an error was fine because they could see it here!
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26/03/2021 10:52:08 12 10
bbc
Well, If there is a third wave, I don't mean to unnerve or offend, but I think we should just get everyone who wants it vaccinated and leave the others who don't want it to be infected. I'm happy to lockdown until everyone is vaccinated but I'm not prepared to stay indoors to protect covid-deniers and anti-vaxxers.
98
26/03/2021 10:58:14 3 9
bbc
The vaccine does NOT stop you contracting or spreading the virus, it merely mitigates the symptoms. Your 'immunity' is also over in six months!
18
26/03/2021 10:44:39 171 135
bbc
the EU are showing true colours with this, threatening and actually blocking vaccine shipments. and they are even with holding them internally to the block too. Utter madness that if you can do it why would you not. we do a flu one every year and it works, so get on and get this one done.
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26/03/2021 10:52:12 41 52
bbc
Should the UK get all the vaccines produced ahead of everyone else ?

And please don't justify a response with "we signed contracts first".
76
26/03/2021 10:54:40 53 20
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Why not it's a justified reason
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26/03/2021 11:02:54 29 11
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I don't understand.

Of course precidence should be given to the terms of a signed contract. In this case it is not just the timing, although the EU was months after, the wording was so wooley in the EU contract. If that is the might of the EU procurement and legal minds, I do worry for them.

And still there is Merkel saying the joint EU approach was the right one/
245
26/03/2021 11:04:53 20 3
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The UK is producing & exporting significant amounts of precursor materials used in the manufacture of vaccines, so we're "doing our bit".
Supply contracts ARE a perfectly valid reason for the UK having a degree of priority & we're NOT "getting all the vaccines produced ahead of everyone else".
255
26/03/2021 11:19:04 22 5
bbc
Thats how is works! You sign a law abiding contract.

The UK were on the ball. The EU, as per usual didn't have a clue what to do.
627
26/03/2021 12:15:35 11 0
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Its not just about contracts its about when the supply chain was built to deliver those contracts. No supplier will start large scale manufacture of something with a short shelf life if they are uncertain that it will be purchased. All the contracts were subject to clinical approval to use the vaccine. The UK approved much earlier than the EU and so the UK supply chain was built first.
26/03/2021 18:19:57 0 0
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The fact we signed contracts first isn't why we could start vaccinating first. That's because our scientists & regulators found a way to run all the necessary tests in parallel rather than in sequence. So we were clear to start vaccinating before EU managed to carry out the same tests. Signing contracts late just made it harder for suppliers (including Phizer btw) to ramp up production.
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26/03/2021 10:52:15 15 10
bbc
Is there any wonder why some folk, particularly older ones, are scared to leave the house? Scaremongering waffle. Nobody knows what will happen in the future, but we are in a far better position than a year ago for sure. Stop the fear inducing stories BBC
435
26/03/2021 11:45:55 1 0
bbc
If you don't want to know what your government is planning for you, look away now.
49
26/03/2021 10:50:42 7 4
bbc
It won't happen
65
26/03/2021 10:52:15 0 3
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Which bit?
469
26/03/2021 11:43:45 0 0
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Your wild speculation.
66
26/03/2021 10:52:20 7 11
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Perhaps we need a bit of a reality check? Firstly, as Sir Patrick Vallance said earlier this week, the vaccine offers cover for 6 months. After that period expires, everyone will need another vaccination.

Most people under the age of 40 have not been vaccinated.

A man in my village said Covid was just a way of the government controlling people. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
85
26/03/2021 10:56:41 6 2
bbc
Sad about the man, but not a reason to justify bullying everyone into taking the vaccine. I ride motorcycles, others climb mountains, but we still have a choice with what to do with our own bodies. Someone once suggested I stop riding a bike just in case I crash and traumatise someone - imagine a society like that - snowflakes all the year round.
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26/03/2021 11:01:15 1 0
bbc
No he didn't, stop lying

"A man in my village said Covid was just a way of the government controlling people. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week." - yeah whatever
147
26/03/2021 11:04:49 0 0
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Its too soon to assume that you will need another vaccination after 6 months ... At the moment the evidence shows that the vaccine offers cover for 6 months simply because it hadnt been administered to anybody 9 months or a year ago ... that number will increase over time but probably not indefinately
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26/03/2021 10:46:11 3 4
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I wish I knew what a thirs wave would ook like but hope we can avoid it. But Johnson and the scientists can't keep hiding behind "we did know this 12 months ago". Incredibly Singapore, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, Cambodia and China all seem to have realised very very soon what the danger was and reacted accordingly.
I know where i'd like to be right now
67
26/03/2021 10:52:24 6 3
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maybe go there then if you find it so appealing
14
26/03/2021 10:43:57 63 77
bbc
There was a man in my village who uttered exactly those words. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
68
26/03/2021 10:52:35 32 9
bbc
Tune in next week for another exciting episode of, 'Things Which Didn't Happen'
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26/03/2021 10:42:58 36 17
bbc
if the third wave is in mainland europe, do what NZ did and properly shut down the boarders! let that wave flatten and then go back to travel.. we seem to be banned from Holidays anyway so what real harm will a full shutdown do..
69
26/03/2021 10:52:52 3 1
bbc
What have residential school pupils got to do with this?
263
26/03/2021 11:20:02 1 1
bbc
How do you know this was what he meant? He may be referring to those in inflatables crossing the channel.
1
26/03/2021 10:39:30 239 63
bbc
I really think the BBC saying 'Should we be worried' and 'how bad could it be' does not help matters in these difficult times
70
26/03/2021 10:52:59 29 2
bbc
Articles like this can raise anxiety for some but that isn't the BBC's fault, the reader needs to step away from the news.

This article uses data to suggest what may happen, especially with countries like France going into a third lock down. Speculation helps prepare us for a possibility, it might not be great but I'd prefer to know the data rather than ignore it because I don't like it.
26/03/2021 14:45:37 0 0
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"Data to suggest what may happen.."

Newspeak for 'our agenda is Project Fear and this is the data we have produced to back this project. We have other data that projects the possibility of opening the economy and freedoms but there is no way you are seeing those.'
19
26/03/2021 10:44:48 101 47
bbc
With all those over 50 and the vulnerable jagged we shouldn't fear Covid at all. We cannot carry on being petrified by something that cannot harm the vast majority of the population. Our leaders have completely lost sight of the level of threat Covid now is, if they won't stop the fear mongering we have to stop them.
71
26/03/2021 10:53:29 62 67
bbc
they hugely over stated the threat from the start and ever since have been trying to save face rather than admit it
462
26/03/2021 11:40:40 9 12
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126,000 dead, WITH all the restrictions & measures in place.

I guess "freedom!!!" & 500,000 dead would have been your preferred course of action.
881
26/03/2021 13:13:52 0 1
bbc
I don't think that's right at all.
15
26/03/2021 10:43:58 134 39
bbc
When did the BBC stop reporting the news which has happened and started to troll out endless 'Chicken Little' articles?

I remember when it broke stories like the drought in Ethiopia and had cutting edge journo's...

Once a respected and trust media source it's now just another one of those 'if it bleeds, it leads' media click baiters...
72
26/03/2021 10:53:35 8 5
bbc
***STOP PRESS***
Actual news is still available on channels like AlJazeera and some other foreign outlets. I do realise Brits used to their own rolling "news" outlets may find this difficult to believe.
840
26/03/2021 13:03:43 1 0
bbc
I'm told AJ is very good. I must watch. They also do world news unlike the BBC much since Brexit.
Not much social distancing outside Bateley Grammar in Yorkshire at the moment.Interesting to see how that pans out after recent events. Removed
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26/03/2021 10:53:59 22 0
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I live near Batley and can tell you that those of different cultures and heritage have a different view of the rules, especially if they impinge on the activities of those cultures.
133
26/03/2021 11:02:18 11 0
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Too true and has been like that from the first lockdown and it has reflected in the high infection rates in the region.
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26/03/2021 10:43:12 7 14
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Ban travel to and from the UK until there are safe zones around the world. Then at least ,we in the UK can get on with our lives.
74
26/03/2021 10:54:03 0 1
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Agree!
75
26/03/2021 10:54:24 10 6
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I don't know what the press and the BBC are talking about. If you look at the figures from the beginning of the Covid outbreak, the UK has had three waves already. Any future wave would be a fourth. The UK has had a terrible record when dealing with the pandemic which was only made worse by the slow reaction to it in the beginning.
63
26/03/2021 10:52:12 41 52
bbc
Should the UK get all the vaccines produced ahead of everyone else ?

And please don't justify a response with "we signed contracts first".
76
26/03/2021 10:54:40 53 20
bbc
Why not it's a justified reason
125
26/03/2021 11:01:36 5 13
bbc
Not again?
193
26/03/2021 11:10:45 9 23
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In your mind perhaps. Clearly humanity does not occupy a great space there.
645
26/03/2021 12:19:40 1 4
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Sure it is, to the mean-spirited among us.
26/03/2021 15:33:24 0 0
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And if the EU had signed the contracts first you would say the same? I don't think so!
77
26/03/2021 10:54:58 4 12
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UK has already had the 3rd wave

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

'Should we be worried' and 'how bad could it be' ????!!!!!!

AHHHH bababababababad..............of course

WHY?

Because the current Oxford vaccine has poor efficacy against the new variants

SO, lockdown is the only solution until Sept when hopefully the new vaccine against the UK variants is developed
143
26/03/2021 11:03:57 0 0
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A microcosm of everything that's wrong now
560
26/03/2021 12:01:06 1 0
bbc
Except you're spouting nonsense.
The Oxford vaccine IS proving to be effective against new variants.
78
26/03/2021 10:55:22 3 0
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perhaps ensuring only those entering the UK have been vaccinated but strangely no mention of this anywhere.
79
26/03/2021 10:55:27 6 7
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here we go again more rubbish media and pomp and covid restrictions as well. turn the TV off don't listen to it. everyone on news and bozo put the scare into people's minds. I've had 2 vaccines and it still going on.? never ever will stop a virus, just like flu. and for one person saying masks will be with us for years, and distance god get a life. they dare not put another lockdown, pathetic ??
5
26/03/2021 10:41:12 20 12
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A third wave is now likely even if there is no new mutants. Get a vaccine as soon as you can the only way to get back to normal.
80
26/03/2021 10:55:42 13 9
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deluded if you think your old normal is returning,
115
26/03/2021 11:00:11 2 2
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Let’s hope there is a better new normal to come ??
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26/03/2021 12:37:11 0 0
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Why do you think that?
809
26/03/2021 12:54:57 0 0
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Fair dinkum, but I never liked the "old normal" anyway,
Rae
26/03/2021 15:20:22 0 0
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my normal is not your normal , I WILL live a normal life once I am allowed ,
stick that in your pipe and smoke it .....
11
26/03/2021 10:43:06 177 28
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Fear is addictive to many. It's like a drug they need. Stop feeding people the fear drug, because if you continue, the whole point of vaccination will come into question.
Vaccination is supposed to be a way out of this, so let it be so.
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26/03/2021 10:55:58 107 42
bbc
The vaccine is 100% effective against severe disease. Anybody with the vaccine should have no fear. It doesn't matter what anybody else does, YOU are safe.
148
26/03/2021 11:05:06 14 19
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But you could still be spreading it.
300
26/03/2021 11:16:59 18 15
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Nonsense.
It's NOT 100% effective.
344
26/03/2021 11:32:36 6 3
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100% effective against severe illness applies only to the current variants circulating where and when the trials were undertaken - so months ago. We know it is less effective against both the SA and latest Brazilian variants. It's those and inevitably others which present the greatest risk of a third wave. And only a small percentage have had the second dose and time to get to 100%.
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26/03/2021 13:50:47 1 1
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Not if it mutates and the vaccine become ineffective - this happens with flu every year.
26/03/2021 16:07:05 0 0
bbc
Unlike yourself many of the people who have been vaccinated are concerned about still being able to pass covid on to those who haven't been vaccinated.

I may be safe, that doesn't mean I shouldn't take full precautions to make sure others are safe too.
26/03/2021 16:15:26 0 0
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Evidence? Who should we believe?
BC
26/03/2021 16:38:49 0 0
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what about my grandad who collapsed and died after the first jab?
26/03/2021 22:19:55 0 0
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Vaccine is only 80% effective in over 80s and not against new variants. We are f....d.
82
26/03/2021 10:56:03 7 6
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Yet more scaremongering from the BBC, what could there agenda be?
367
26/03/2021 11:34:56 1 1
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To report the news, in this cases the decisions taken by your betters as to how many of you it is OK to let die.
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26/03/2021 10:44:39 171 135
bbc
the EU are showing true colours with this, threatening and actually blocking vaccine shipments. and they are even with holding them internally to the block too. Utter madness that if you can do it why would you not. we do a flu one every year and it works, so get on and get this one done.
83
26/03/2021 10:56:29 48 7
bbc
The EU have messed up, that's clear. Here in Germany recently 1 million people in Berlin were invited to have their first jab, 65% of them didn't turn up!!
I've asked friends and family in the UK about the vaccine, they all want it (can't wait in fact).
I've asked friends and colleagues here and I'd say 80% of them don't want it.
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26/03/2021 10:56:34 21 4
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Few things...

"After all, 99% of Covid deaths have been in the groups now vaccinated". So a pretty compelling argument to open up and get on.

In the graph public help england; why are more women vaccinated in the lower age groups?

And finally the huge elephant in the room. That map of the Midlands, and I'm from Birmingham but live in Leicester now, it is very clear why the take up is so low.
924
26/03/2021 13:30:18 3 1
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RE: In the graph, why are more women vaccinated in the lower age groups?'

Some health conditions are more prevalent in one sex, but I suspect what you are seeing there is the fact that about 90% of nurses are women. From what I've seen the same applies to paid carers too.
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26/03/2021 10:52:20 7 11
bbc
Perhaps we need a bit of a reality check? Firstly, as Sir Patrick Vallance said earlier this week, the vaccine offers cover for 6 months. After that period expires, everyone will need another vaccination.

Most people under the age of 40 have not been vaccinated.

A man in my village said Covid was just a way of the government controlling people. He caught Covid-19. They buried him last week.
85
26/03/2021 10:56:41 6 2
bbc
Sad about the man, but not a reason to justify bullying everyone into taking the vaccine. I ride motorcycles, others climb mountains, but we still have a choice with what to do with our own bodies. Someone once suggested I stop riding a bike just in case I crash and traumatise someone - imagine a society like that - snowflakes all the year round.
86
26/03/2021 10:56:44 2 1
bbc
I guess the EU were asking themselves the same question when they were waiting for the English variant to 'wash up on their shores'
11
26/03/2021 10:43:06 177 28
bbc
Fear is addictive to many. It's like a drug they need. Stop feeding people the fear drug, because if you continue, the whole point of vaccination will come into question.
Vaccination is supposed to be a way out of this, so let it be so.
87
26/03/2021 10:57:02 9 8
bbc
Agreed, but fear is what sells papers (or internet hits) and the BBC are no better at fuelling this fire than any other media outlet
88
26/03/2021 10:57:03 0 3
bbc
Whitty already rowing back from a 3rd wave

Doing a very good impression of someone who knows they know something.

Bug starting to realise they don't know enough to be useful

1 year on little has changed

Can we get scientists who can be honest and tell us how they will know if their models are actually showing what might be happening and ar what point they will abandon them or not use anymore
89
26/03/2021 10:57:10 3 2
bbc
Was the article written in the future and sent back in time to today.
"does this matter? After all, 99% of Covid deaths have been in the groups now vaccinated."
No we expect to have those groups vaccinated by 15 April, so with 3 weeks to build up immunity they will be protected by 7 May.
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26/03/2021 10:39:30 239 63
bbc
I really think the BBC saying 'Should we be worried' and 'how bad could it be' does not help matters in these difficult times
90
26/03/2021 10:57:10 10 13
bbc
yes a public service broadcaster should not behave like Fox news
206
26/03/2021 11:00:06 5 9
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In this case, they're not.
551
26/03/2021 12:00:09 4 0
bbc
The BBC are reporting this almost identically to the Mirror and Guardian.

Fox are the Murdock side of the press and you wouldn't confuse the BBC with the Express would you?
91
26/03/2021 10:57:13 2 3
bbc
Nick Triggle looks a bit of a J Arthur to me - not the sort of chap who'd be let stand at the Bar of our local shouting his head off with such as "The threat is already on these shores!" and "How bad could it be?" - he'd soon be told to Ferme La Bouche. But the BBC seems to have a place for him.
60
26/03/2021 10:52:00 18 13
bbc
Any attempt to lockdown again will almost certainly meet with mass resistance.
92
FF
26/03/2021 10:57:13 4 8
bbc
You do not speak for the "mass resistance"

Wise up.
100
26/03/2021 10:58:33 1 3
bbc
Yes I do.
123
26/03/2021 11:01:29 2 3
bbc
Speaks for me pal!
126
26/03/2021 11:01:40 2 3
bbc
who do you speak for then? the brainwashed?
130
26/03/2021 11:01:57 3 2
bbc
But it clearly will, enough is enough now. Those who want to live the rest of their miserable existence cowering behind their sofa are free to do so, the rest want to get back to living.
18
26/03/2021 10:44:39 171 135
bbc
the EU are showing true colours with this, threatening and actually blocking vaccine shipments. and they are even with holding them internally to the block too. Utter madness that if you can do it why would you not. we do a flu one every year and it works, so get on and get this one done.
93
26/03/2021 10:57:17 49 19
bbc
Ironically the EU has actually received more Astra Zeneca doses than the UK even though they got their order in months later! Their spat with AZ has nothing to do with AZ its politically motivated! Why are they not shouting at Pfizer?
235
26/03/2021 11:15:40 7 4
bbc
Because it was developed in Germany, ironically by a team of Turks.
26/03/2021 15:53:28 0 0
bbc
Most of the EU doses are made in Holland and Belgium with Fill and Finish in Italy and much of it is for Covax and approval to use in countries are given by the national governments through their medicinal drug bodies
26/03/2021 18:29:05 0 0
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I agree. I cannot understand how EU politicians get such an easy ride from media here and across the channel. Political agendas seem more important to them than the people they affect. Supposedly bright, well briefed leaders have consistently fed misinformation and even (certainly in Macron's case) downright lies, that have put, and are putting, people's lives at risk.
94
26/03/2021 10:57:18 4 7
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I feel really blessed to live in the UK and to have been afforded the Covid vaccine. I feel so much safer now knowing the risk of serious illness has been dramatically reduced. We are blessed to have a brilliant science/medical community that worked at such an incredible pace to develop, test and roll out this life saving vaccine. The UK have absolutely nailed the vaccine rollout.????
104
26/03/2021 10:59:42 1 0
bbc
Your positivity is refreshing, but I fear your optimism needs a little caution.
122
26/03/2021 11:01:28 0 2
bbc
Look at the fool down voting. Must be exhausting to hate the UK so much.
Not much social distancing outside Bateley Grammar in Yorkshire at the moment.Interesting to see how that pans out after recent events. Removed
95
26/03/2021 10:57:47 11 1
bbc
Why do we tolerate this superstitious claptrap in the 21st Century?
Not much social distancing outside Bateley Grammar in Yorkshire at the moment.Interesting to see how that pans out after recent events. Removed
96
26/03/2021 10:57:55 10 0
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I live down the road from Batley Grammar, drove past and there was a ridiculous crowd outside! It's just been business as usual in Batley all throughout this coronavirus!
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26/03/2021 10:42:30 177 41
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A third wave of positive PCR tests is not a problem. If we had a “wave” of positive flu tests it doesn’t mean anything. The high-risk have been vaccinated. Young people are fine. We need to be pragmatic about this and get on with our lives. Anyone is more than welcome to lock themselves in a cupboard for the rest of their lives if they wish.
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26/03/2021 10:58:00 129 18
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The vaccine protects against 100% of severe disease, every vulnerable person will have been offered it soon. Whatever infection rates are is irrelevant. It's like worrying about common cold infection rates.

If people are really worried about their health they should stop smoking and lose some weight.
132
26/03/2021 11:02:15 5 11
bbc
Look for new mutants not infections
185
26/03/2021 11:09:14 29 3
bbc
Exactly this, instead of bleating on about vaccine passports why not look at the factors that have led to most of those losing their lives? Obesity is right up there but we've closed gyms, limited time outside and effectively promoted being a couch potato whilst leaving fast food restaurants open. If this is about protecting health and the NHS they've got a funny way of 'protecting'
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26/03/2021 12:41:17 1 0
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Being fat, sedentary and unhealthy is of course a choice (for most, not all) and I agree with you. People are quick to whine about "how tough it is for me" but many need to get a grip and realise how lucky they are. There are people out there who lose limbs but they still make the best of it. I am not a counsellor by the way, if you hadn't guessed.
751
26/03/2021 12:44:41 2 1
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Many asthmatics have been kicked out of group 6 - thanks to JCVI's policy on deaths not long term implications. Many GPs refusing to vaccinate under 50s asthmatics.

Explain why young people with a lung condition have had vaccine delayed when covid is a lung condition making asthmatics even worse.
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26/03/2021 13:03:33 2 0
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You're correct with the first part but wrong with the second. If infection rates are not kept very low there is a greater chance of mutation to a strain that the vaccine is less or ineffective against. So vaccine protection also relies on low infection (not just here but worldwide).
26/03/2021 17:33:42 0 0
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You didn't put stop drinking alcohol so I take it you're partial to a bottle in some poncey wine bar. X
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26/03/2021 10:52:08 12 10
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Well, If there is a third wave, I don't mean to unnerve or offend, but I think we should just get everyone who wants it vaccinated and leave the others who don't want it to be infected. I'm happy to lockdown until everyone is vaccinated but I'm not prepared to stay indoors to protect covid-deniers and anti-vaxxers.
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26/03/2021 10:58:14 3 9
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The vaccine does NOT stop you contracting or spreading the virus, it merely mitigates the symptoms. Your 'immunity' is also over in six months!
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26/03/2021 11:06:05 1 0
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Absolute lies on all points
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26/03/2021 11:25:19 0 0
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Really!! And that's a fact is it?? The vaccine 100% prevents serious illness and hospitalisation so the NHS will not be overwhelmed. Now that is a fact!!
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26/03/2021 10:52:00 18 13
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Any attempt to lockdown again will almost certainly meet with mass resistance.
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26/03/2021 10:58:20 2 2
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speak for yourself
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26/03/2021 11:02:41 4 2
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Wrong. I speak for many who are fed up with the lunacy of lockdown.
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26/03/2021 10:57:13 4 8
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You do not speak for the "mass resistance"

Wise up.
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26/03/2021 10:58:33 1 3
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Yes I do.