Covid vaccine: AstraZeneca updates US vaccine efficacy results
25/03/2021 | news | world | 911
The vaccine-maker slightly amends its efficacy rates as it awaits US regulatory approval.
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25/03/2021 11:43:01 164 24
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I can think of an uneducated French politician who will disagree.
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25/03/2021 11:50:02 187 18
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Why you are getting downvotes is beyond me. Macron said AZ was “quasi-ineffective” before he had any knowledge of the science. If that isn’t playing politics I don’t know what is. If Boris had said that about a French vaccine, it would spawn-anti Tory riots on our streets.
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25/03/2021 12:40:41 15 1
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"I can think of an uneducated French politician who will disagree."

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Not just French politicians. Just find any country who has screwed up their vaccination program as badly as the French and I'll show you one of their politicians acting the same way as Macron.
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25/03/2021 11:43:39 460 7
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100% effective at preventing severe cases of the disease. That'll do for me!
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25/03/2021 11:46:29 251 3
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Yep. Three days feeling rough was well worth it, bring on the second jab.
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25/03/2021 12:10:25 32 1
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I got lucky, didn't feel too bad but am on day 3 now. Bit under the weather but still able to do everything I needed without worry.
For 100% effective at preventing severe cases? Definitely worth it.
NHS Rollout has been amazing too and the centre was brilliant.
Glad I got AZ and kudos to the volunteers and workers.
Amazing job by the creators too.
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25/03/2021 12:19:17 4 47
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Yeah fine. But unless they give you your freedoms back what is the point?
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25/03/2021 12:26:43 29 1
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60-70% of French and Germans still don't think it's safe. Now they will stay in lockdown and have more deaths. EU have done a great job at spreading the wrong message and the UK will continue to reap the benefits.
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25/03/2021 12:42:29 9 0
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I had my A Z jab three weeks ago and felt fine other than a slight head ache for a couple of days but so worth it compared to hearing about the horror stories of what Covid is like and long Covid. We know so little about it who knows maybe some people will have to live with the effects of it for life.
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25/03/2021 12:36:20 0 3
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Don't know if the concerns have been dispelled but here if you are over 65 you won't get it. looks like pfizer for me.
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25/03/2021 12:49:22 1 2
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The same 3 trolls are back!
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25/03/2021 12:50:06 5 1
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Having both survived testing positive for Covid in January I was down for a day and my wife felt rough for six days after the AZ jab. Now all fine.
Hard to believe that Europe have been so down on it. In the 21stC you would have thought this nationalistic posturing from the French and Germans and the EU would be long gone. Congrats to Oxford, AZ and the Govt. for ordering quickly.
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25/03/2021 12:55:25 6 0
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Lots of comments about feeling rough etc.
I would like to just say then, that I must have been very lucky.

NOTHING, not an ache, no tiredness, just relief!
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25/03/2021 13:27:20 2 0
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I was lucky i guess nothing not even a head ache.
Get everyone vaccinated including Europe, get the digital passport finished, and keep a check on the ports for the next few years then we can get back to some sort of resemblance of a life.
That is not true.
Vaccinated people have died "with covid-19"?

Your chances of becoming critically ill from covid without underlying chronic health conditions or being immune compromised are practically zero without the vax

Thousands have died & tens of thousands suffered injury after being vaccinated for Covid.
Scientifically the most effective & long lasting immunity is natural immunity.
Removed
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25/03/2021 14:05:09 0 1
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No chemicals in me, thank you. We have an immune system for a reason. I'll take the risk with a "virus" with a 99.8% recovery rate.
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25/03/2021 16:15:15 0 0
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Hope they roll it out in all schools
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25/03/2021 11:44:20 165 3
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Like most things these days it all seems to be about politics rather than the public health
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25/03/2021 12:14:49 102 11
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Well, it certainly does for Macron et al. Egg on face much, Emmanuel?

I think he's still playing with his Merit Chemistry Set (Level 1)
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25/03/2021 12:34:21 4 1
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And profits for big pharma companies. The AZ vaccine is the only one being sold not for profit.
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25/03/2021 13:14:26 0 0
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"Like most things these days"? What else did you have in mind?
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25/03/2021 11:43:39 460 7
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100% effective at preventing severe cases of the disease. That'll do for me!
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25/03/2021 11:46:29 251 3
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Yep. Three days feeling rough was well worth it, bring on the second jab.
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25/03/2021 11:52:40 39 1
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Indeed. I felt rough for a couple of days and really tired. But I'm fine now. 100% effective against hospitalisation will do me too
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25/03/2021 12:03:15 38 0
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Tell me about it! Rough as a badger's for 48 hours.

Thought if this is mild compared to Covid....glad I've not had Covid!
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25/03/2021 12:22:15 12 0
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I wasn't too bad. I’d liken the feeling to when you’ve had a big night out you’ve survived the morning after but by the end of the day you’re flagging a bit. That's the feeling I had for a couple of days.
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25/03/2021 12:59:19 0 8
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Not for someone who has already had covid and felt zero effects of it. If you want the vaccine then by all means go and get but don't force it on people who don't need it.
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25/03/2021 11:46:50 174 6
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Cheap, safe, effective, easily stored and not for profit during the pandemic and not for profit to poorer nations. Competitors must really hate that and try a FUD.
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25/03/2021 13:15:02 65 0
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Without this vaccine other companies would be able to charge even more. It's no surprise vested interests are trying to discredit it.
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25/03/2021 13:38:45 0 3
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine (like the USA) because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 11:46:55 38 7
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Fergus. Thanks once again for the balanced view. Is this not all about discrediting AZ in favour of Pfizer to boost the US economy? If the States are given AZ production rights the UK should get more Pfizer jabs in return.
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25/03/2021 12:39:49 4 1
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How would the states ( USA ? ) having production rights ( which they already do ! ) provide an opportunity for more Pfizer, as Pfizer is actually the German Biontech vaccine made in Belgium!! its not imported from the US
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25/03/2021 11:47:59 336 22
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This is fantastic news: an affordable, transportable and quickly produced vaccine can only be good for the world.

It’s extremely disappointing to have witnessed the unbelievable negative press AZ has received from the EU which has irreversibly damaged its reputation. Whilst AZ has been under immense scrutiny, the other vaccines have not. Playing politics with critical healthcare has cost lives.
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25/03/2021 11:59:12 225 28
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Yes any controversies over this vaccine have been spearheaded by spiteful EU leaders who have done everything they can to discredit this vaccine and now wonder why their populace don't trust it. That along with the out to make a profit out of the vaccine pharmas tearing their hair out at AZ's decision to go for not for profit. Well done AZ, you really are saving the world.
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25/03/2021 12:13:23 9 21
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Not EU - 11 countries, not all in the EU. It was a nonsense but please stop blaming the EU (they're getting enough wrong without being blamed unfairly!).
But this was the USA.

Did you fail to understand the article my friend?

And after what happened with the swine flu vaccine a few years ago who can blame any nation for being overly cautious (if you dont understand what i am tefering to then please google it)
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25/03/2021 13:01:02 5 0
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It does seem to have been targeted more viciously than any other vaccine, which makes you wonder if it's being aggressively briefed against by those who have interests in the profits of other vaccines.
I hope they find their reputation is enhanced by the decision to go not-for-profit. Though presumably they will eventually profit from the seemingly inevitable annual top-ups.
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25/03/2021 12:58:14 6 0
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The initial concern expressed within the EU was that the AZ vaccine had not been adequately tested on over 65s, which was acknowledged to be true. But their main complaint was that AZ said they wouldn't be able to meet the EU contractual delivery, despite meeting ours.
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25/03/2021 13:35:51 4 5
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 18:21:07 0 0
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The only thing that has cost lives is AZ appalling track record to deliver vaccines on time to the EU!! Ultimately this will ruin its reputation.
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25/03/2021 11:48:14 2 37
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So as the king clown said it was greed and capitalism that got us the vaccine...that actually is only 76% effective compared to the Russian vaccine Sputnik which is 92% effective you'd have to agree that greed and capitalism are failures.
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25/03/2021 11:50:54 11 0
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Different efficacy figures. With a longer gap between doses the AZ jab is as good as the Sputnik vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:52:17 8 2
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Fine, if you don't want the AZ jab then off you go to Russia. You can even claim that it is for medical purposes & not pay the £5k when leaving the UK. I'm sure that they will welcome you with open arms
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25/03/2021 11:53:16 3 2
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Move to Moscow - I'm sure they'll happily give you a Sputnik.
Good luck with that.
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25/03/2021 12:31:38 1 0
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well if you believe the words of a regime that's know to lie, and who hasn't vaccinated much of its population at all
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25/03/2021 12:32:54 2 0
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The Russians never completed stage 3 trials. The AZ vaccine is very similar to the Sputnik V vaccine in technology so I can’t see its efficacy being very different.
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25/03/2021 11:48:59 47 1
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100% against severe case is brilliant. Can't wait for my jab.
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25/03/2021 11:51:34 26 2
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My only side effect was (and is 3 days later) a bloody sore arm.
If it means I can go to the pub, great. Mine's a pint.
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25/03/2021 12:30:33 0 0
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looks like that will be a while now, with india stooping exports
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25/03/2021 12:31:30 1 0
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Had mine. So grateful. Some minor aches for 24 hours after the jab and a sore arm for a few days. Much better than getting Covid. Can’t wait for my second jab.
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25/03/2021 11:49:18 103 5
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I hope that one day the extent to which politicians in various countries have played vaccine nationalism and other major drug companies have distorted facts, both to imply some lack of efficacy in the AZ vaccine is revealed. The motives of both are scandalous with politics and profits being put ahead of global public health.
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25/03/2021 11:51:18 11 120
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So the fact that they lied about the efficiency of the vaccine is vaccine nationalism on the US' part?
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25/03/2021 12:08:49 12 3
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AZ hasn't done themselves any favours.

Screwing up the dosage during the trials hasn't helped their credibility, nor has their focus on younger people during their trials. All these errors have helped drive the negative comments.

All that aside, the millions of successful inoculations will ultimately prove the value of the AZ product, the few 'possible' problems will be long forgotten.
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25/03/2021 13:40:50 0 3
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine (like the USA) because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 11:43:01 164 24
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I can think of an uneducated French politician who will disagree.
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25/03/2021 11:50:02 187 18
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Why you are getting downvotes is beyond me. Macron said AZ was “quasi-ineffective” before he had any knowledge of the science. If that isn’t playing politics I don’t know what is. If Boris had said that about a French vaccine, it would spawn-anti Tory riots on our streets.
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25/03/2021 11:57:39 31 5
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It's macron doing the down voting
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25/03/2021 12:00:09 27 2
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And now he wonders why the French don't trust the vaccine to work,
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25/03/2021 12:02:10 36 9
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We all know the ones down voting as we have to read their pro EU drivel on here most days
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25/03/2021 12:15:28 3 11
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Johnson probably would have - but there isn't one yet!
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25/03/2021 12:28:21 4 27
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it is quasi effective. it doesnt stop everyone catching or spreading the original variant and even less with the SA variant
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25/03/2021 12:32:38 5 16
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If Bojo had said it, the uptake would have been higher as we all know he's a pathological liar!

Macron is doing a passable job of trying to compete with Boris for "Europe's most idiot leader though".
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25/03/2021 12:42:16 2 7
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Likely because many cant distinguish a difference between individual national politicians and the EU as a institution. And between the EUs unhappiness of have little supply, and national rollouts
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25/03/2021 13:04:32 6 11
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Downvotes are from EU peeps who often use this HYS to spread their propaganda, and of course pro-EU traitor Brits.
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25/03/2021 14:08:26 0 0
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Nothing to do with Tory/Labour politics, vaccine success from AZ nothing to do with Boris, it's our brilliant Science LordAngmar
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25/03/2021 11:50:35 591 14
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I actually feel quite sorry for AZ. Whatever they do, somebody complains and critises. They are the only not-for-profit vaccine producer and the world should be thankful.
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25/03/2021 12:02:26 331 10
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I agree. They have commented that they won't be doing a not for profit vaccine again in the future as it's not worth the slander and criticism they're getting and I can't really blame them.
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25/03/2021 12:28:44 64 8
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That’s exactly why they are being targeted. The other big Pharma companies want to sell their expensive for profit vaccines. With the EU it’s all about playing post Brexit politics.
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25/03/2021 12:30:45 64 2
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"...They are the only not-for-profit vaccine producer and the world should be thankful."

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Most of the world is. AZ's problems have been from:
* Parts of the media who lack the skills to analyse the data.
* Nationalistic politicians who wish to divert attention from their own failings.

I suspect that pharmaceutical rivals who are making money on their own vaccine offerings also have influence.
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25/03/2021 12:32:06 28 3
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That' exactly why there are all the complaints, other big pharma trying to undermine AZ!
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25/03/2021 12:38:09 52 3
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They're getting attacked so much because they're doing it for zero profit.

Pharmaceutical companies stand to make billions for vaccine and Astrazeneca threatens that. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the pharmaceutical companies are flexing their vast political muscles in response.
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25/03/2021 12:38:47 22 6
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Not for profit producer CURRENTLY. Let's not kid ourselves, Covid isn't going away and all signs point to an annual jab being necessary for years if not decades to come.

Offering the first billion doses at cost is quite possibly the best marketing strategy any company has done in human history. That said, that doesn't change the fact that we ALL benefit from them doing so!
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25/03/2021 12:40:44 7 0
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Yes, a thankless task and their share price has dropped by 20% since June, whereas Moderna who have done exactly the same saw their share price increase 70%
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25/03/2021 12:52:55 9 1
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No good deed goes unpunished. Look up the psychological term “antisocial punishment”. You’re more likely to be punished than rewarded for trying to help people.
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25/03/2021 13:09:41 7 0
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Funny how that works. I realise how paranoid I sound, but it's almost like vested interests who stand to make a profit from the other vaccines are continually briefing against them.
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25/03/2021 13:14:46 17 1
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After watching newsnight last night, it was amazing to hear talk of other vaccine firms not having supplied one single dose to the EU despite contracts, Pfizer not supplying promised doses to the EU as well as AZ and with the last two also failing to supply the UK with number of doses ordered, it does make you wonder what the EU are playing at.

Not helping themselves but blaming everyone else.
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25/03/2021 13:22:18 6 7
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If AZ's supply chain failed in the supply of drugs to Britain the same way it failed the EU while still exporting drugs to other countries, we would be pressurising AZ in EXACTLY the same way. Don't kid yourself any different.
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25/03/2021 13:23:57 11 0
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Thats probably why they are getting a tough time, a jab of any other vaccine = profit for the makers, now estimated to be into billions, every jab of AZ is a loss of profit to competitors who want to maximise the opportunity to make a profit. It makes sense for them and less than reliable politicians to throw mud at AZ
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25/03/2021 13:32:17 2 8
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 13:32:19 0 0
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The US invested million dollars in the vaccine. They have every reason to check that it's right.https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/21/coronavirus-us-gives-astrazenena-1-billion-for-oxford-vaccine.html
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25/03/2021 13:35:53 2 0
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Totally agree and wonder why the EU are so against a non for profit solution to the Virus? how much does Pfizer, im sure that's just a coincidence. Thankful we are independent of their decisions now.
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25/03/2021 13:47:27 3 1
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AZ have combined a medical miracle with a PR disaster.

Their vaccine works and was one of the first to do so, and to sell it at cost was the right thing to do. However it seems that they decided that if they where making no profits then they should strip back on the roll out (inc marketing communication strategy) which has led to delays in approval and production.

Scientists failed by salesmen.
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25/03/2021 13:49:02 6 2
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Spot on! But why the BBC is not pointing out vociferously and on a daily basis the downright lies and deceit of the EUSSR spokespersons and now the Med.Auth. in the USsr (United States soviet style regime) can only be because the Betraying Britain Cabal (BBC)dislike the UK as much as those two. We can't do much about them, but the BBC we can get rid of. It has got to go!
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25/03/2021 13:56:48 4 0
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They know the British people are grateful.
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25/03/2021 14:11:14 1 0
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Has it occured to you that it is because they are not for profit that they are having these issues.
There's a lot of folk in high office who are making a fortune from this pandemic and free vaccine doesn't help their botton line.
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25/03/2021 16:29:37 0 0
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Not true, Germany funded the BioNTech vaccine research and the UK funded the Oxford vaccine research. The EU funded the Pfizer production scaling and the UK funded AstraZeneca production. Pfizer have exceeded their production quota while AstraZeneca are not meeting theirs.
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25/03/2021 16:53:35 0 0
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Why?. They have knowingly taken orders they know they can't fulfill.
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25/03/2021 11:50:36 441 6
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So, as I understand it, the Oxford-AZ vaccine has undergone two separate Phase 3 trials (one run by Oxford and one by AZ). Both trials have shown that the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing hospitalisation and serious illness, in tens of thousands of people. Both have shown it to be safe. It is cheap and practical to roll out across the world. Incredible achievement by both AZ and Oxford.
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25/03/2021 12:09:04 36 391
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Problem is that we won't export any. How can we expect to return to normalty with open borders while the UK continues to hog all the vaccines.
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25/03/2021 12:27:31 53 3
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Real world data in the U.K. after millions of doses being given has also shown it is 90% effective at preventing severe Covid after one dose and 95% effective after two doses across all age groups. This is brilliant efficacy data for a vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:48:14 2 37
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So as the king clown said it was greed and capitalism that got us the vaccine...that actually is only 76% effective compared to the Russian vaccine Sputnik which is 92% effective you'd have to agree that greed and capitalism are failures.
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25/03/2021 11:50:54 11 0
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Different efficacy figures. With a longer gap between doses the AZ jab is as good as the Sputnik vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:49:18 103 5
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I hope that one day the extent to which politicians in various countries have played vaccine nationalism and other major drug companies have distorted facts, both to imply some lack of efficacy in the AZ vaccine is revealed. The motives of both are scandalous with politics and profits being put ahead of global public health.
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25/03/2021 11:51:18 11 120
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So the fact that they lied about the efficiency of the vaccine is vaccine nationalism on the US' part?
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25/03/2021 11:59:53 13 2
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No lie. Mistake.
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25/03/2021 12:24:02 30 3
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What a ridiculous and ignorant comment. They released the data they had because it was important to reassure people that the vaccine was safe and effective as soon as possible. They updated their report 3 days later and came to the same conclusion. The US were wrong to do what they did publicly, stirring up even more misplaced doubt in AZ.
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25/03/2021 12:28:58 15 2
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they wanted to get the figures out as soon as possible, wit the revised figures one went down one went up
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25/03/2021 12:29:56 17 2
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They haven’t lied about efficacy. 76-79% isn’t a statistically significant difference. In real world data it was even more effective.
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25/03/2021 12:51:29 12 0
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I think you will find the headline says "updates vaccine efficacy" not "Lies about Vaccine efficacy" but you crack on.
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25/03/2021 12:51:04 10 0
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How quick to judge. They did not lie its a long trial so some of the results were outside of the parameters. On the one hand I understand why the U.S wanted the latest stats but its not a simple situation. The updated numbers added a minus of 3 % and took 3 days to produce as its a lot of data. How many poeple died in the US in that time. It has a 100% record in preventing death. way to go
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25/03/2021 13:44:56 1 0
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They didn't lie, they published results a day too soon, and now have published the latest, which stioll shows the same. Do try to keep up, it's the EU that's been playing with people's l;ives and we all know why that is.
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25/03/2021 11:51:38 4 21
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I see Fergus.

"The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%"

Its an Anglo-Swedish today when the efficacy is downgraded but it was a British company when the 79% was announced a few days ago.
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25/03/2021 12:00:27 5 0
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Well I didn't see the Swedes getting too much grief from the EU.
In fact, they didn't get any grief or threats from the EU.
Did you notice that?
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25/03/2021 12:02:26 2 0
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The greatest problem the AZ vaccine has is the designation 'British' vaccine. The minute British was added to the designation the EU (and others) were going to find fault.

I suspect the vaccine developed by AZ relied heavily on people and support from all nationalities. Then relied heavily on people across the globe to actually make the vaccine.

Stop fighting and focus on saving lives!
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25/03/2021 12:25:44 2 0
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76-79% is hardly any difference.
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25/03/2021 11:51:51 93 4
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I think it will go down in the history books just how disproportionately unfair many nations have been on AZ.
True.

Like here in the uk we are refusing to export any AZ vaccine to any nation until we have our fill.

None to the EU (despite importing over 10 million vaccines from them)

None to any poor 2nd or 3rd world nations who badly need them

The "terrible" "dreaded" EU have exported over 44 million doses

Plucky little Blighty has exported none

I to wonder how future historians will view this....
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25/03/2021 11:48:14 2 37
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So as the king clown said it was greed and capitalism that got us the vaccine...that actually is only 76% effective compared to the Russian vaccine Sputnik which is 92% effective you'd have to agree that greed and capitalism are failures.
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25/03/2021 11:52:17 8 2
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Fine, if you don't want the AZ jab then off you go to Russia. You can even claim that it is for medical purposes & not pay the £5k when leaving the UK. I'm sure that they will welcome you with open arms
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25/03/2021 11:59:26 0 11
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I have no intention of getting vaccinated until the current human trials or inoculation program as you probably call it, has revealed its results. Maybe sometime next year.
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25/03/2021 11:52:31 4 10
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How odd the BBC isn't reporting Finland's extended probe and only recommending for over 65s.
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25/03/2021 12:24:49 4 0
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Why bother? Numerous trials,, real world data and reviews have proved it’s is highly effective in the over 65s and there is a lower risk of blood clots than in the general unvaccinated population. Stop spreading anti vaccine misinformation.
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25/03/2021 12:26:07 0 0
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yes they are
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25/03/2021 11:52:33 293 12
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Every single dose of AZ vaccine is lost profit for Pfizer and Moderna. Are we surprised by a pointless and ridiculous reaction from US regulators ? I'm not.
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25/03/2021 12:38:05 100 1
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As ever, follow the money...
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25/03/2021 13:01:39 0 5
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Not really. There is a huge shortfall of vaccines worldwide so if the EU don't want them then they could easily sell to the rest of the world.
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25/03/2021 12:42:18 0 4
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At least modernas share price is up over 100% in the last year, AZ has had a share price drop
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25/03/2021 13:37:04 2 5
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine (like the USA) because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 14:28:40 0 0
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Argument may hold water if not for the fact that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, with similar cost, efficacy and storage requirements was approved in US. Plus, the single $10 dose is much easier to administer at scale than two $4 doses.
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25/03/2021 20:58:40 0 0
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If I recall, those vaccine developers are also taking no profit from their vaccines. As for this incident, it kinda falls on AZ. Don't publish things unless you are sure of the numbers.
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25/03/2021 11:46:29 251 3
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Yep. Three days feeling rough was well worth it, bring on the second jab.
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25/03/2021 11:52:40 39 1
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Indeed. I felt rough for a couple of days and really tired. But I'm fine now. 100% effective against hospitalisation will do me too
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25/03/2021 11:52:52 30 1
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I think we also have to take into account that AZ found that the spacing out of the second dose appeared to increase efficiency.
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25/03/2021 11:58:31 1 14
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Only for AZ.
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25/03/2021 12:10:20 9 1
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Agree. While the EU criticised the spacing out until 2nd jab of 12 weeks was too long, the UK and AZ proved that leaving it longer until 2nd jab, was the best method of efficiacy. Also, the AZ vaccine is the best vaccine for Covid-19 having the least transmission once vaccinated. AZ vaccine is easier to keep in a fridge. I would say AZ is the best vaccine out of all the Covid-19 vaccines. ????
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25/03/2021 11:53:00 145 2
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I really feel that AZ are being treated appallingly over the vaccine they have developed in conjunction with the team at Oxford and commited to supply to the World at cost or to licence local production.

They are not responsible for every delay, especially inspections by official regulators and review boards.
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25/03/2021 12:44:57 30 1
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Yes and the long tern likely hoood is they will not assist next time and their will be a next time
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25/03/2021 13:23:26 3 0
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Yes. And at any rate, the EU have literally millions of them sat on shelves. The EU have delayed themselves and blamed everyone else.
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25/03/2021 11:53:17 129 8
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic."

This here is the crux of the situation. The US are obviously more interested in the profits of Pfizer in particular. The EU Commission have cocked their vaccine rollout up and see it as an easy political football.

Kindness gets you absolutely nowhere.
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25/03/2021 12:00:02 126 2
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Furthermore AZ went for an easily stored vaccine.

Pfizer and others went for the quick -80 degC option. OK for Western countries, not much cop for Asia, South America or Africa.

AZ tried to make their vaccine affordable and flexible and have received nothing but abuse.
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25/03/2021 12:49:56 6 0
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"...Kindness gets you absolutely nowhere."

===

But my Buddhist friends assure me no-one ever regretted being kind...
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25/03/2021 13:45:48 2 0
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The US have ordered 300 million.
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25/03/2021 11:54:19 18 1
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As usual its all about money. What a depressing world we live in. This is always going to be the case when governments are owned by large corporations like big pharma.

People don't actually matter if there's a lot of money to be grifted.
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25/03/2021 11:56:37 20 6
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WRONG!

It is all about politics - the EU has a lot to answer for and should be investigated by the WHO.
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25/03/2021 11:58:04 3 9
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A couple of points - EVERYTHING is about money.

1) What do you do for free?
2) AZ are supplying the vaccine at cost
3) Doing things for the 'greater good' has been tried in the USSR and many others - all that happens is a few ultra-rich and lots of very poor
4) Doctors, nurses, scientists don't work for free - if you work hard you should be rewarded
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25/03/2021 12:17:24 1 3
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Of course it is "all about money". No different to when you visit the supermarket, or the cinema. But that doesn't mean people don't matter. Just that there is a price to pay for healthcare - in any form it takes.
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25/03/2021 11:54:25 4 9
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So the AZ jollop is safe and effective !! - doh!!, my cotton wool lined bunker building company may see staff furloughed from May. Come on people, we have new variants, Brazilian covid makes your hairs drop out and hospital staff have been issued with upgraded PPE to protect against Lynx and fake tan fumes from 1000's of young people now in hospital ( according to someone on here ).
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25/03/2021 11:54:30 93 2
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Makes me pause to wonder if other drug companies are behind the moves to cast doubts on the at-cost AZ vaccine to boost the sales of the sold-for-profit vaccines.
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25/03/2021 13:18:10 22 0
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The other companies are making vast profits and so are the countries they come from. No wonder there is such an effort to discredit AZ.
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25/03/2021 11:54:37 71 2
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic."
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25/03/2021 11:55:58 22 3
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I've really got to stop visiting this site for my own sanity
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25/03/2021 11:56:26 51 5
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Fergus Walsh saysThis is the latest in a string of controversies surrounding the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, over dosing, efficacy in the elderly, clots and supplies to the EU. I would counteract that by saying controversy driven by a spiteful group of EU leaders who need to grow up and accept the UK have left the EU and who have been utterly incompetent in their management of the vaccine rollout
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25/03/2021 12:03:45 40 2
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Politics at play, EU wanted to push Pfizer as it was part German, and costs 5 times as much. Yet Pfizer actually had more blood clotting incidents than AZ, go figure...
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25/03/2021 14:08:32 0 1
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But most of those things you have posted about have been proved to not to be true and had no basis to ever have been called into doubt
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25/03/2021 11:56:32 132 3
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I can't help thinking that the companies making billions will be trying their hardest to discredit AstraZeneca's effectiveness, just to ensure they continue to profit.
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25/03/2021 12:57:48 3 111
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People don't need to try to discredit AstraZeneca, they seem to be very good at doing it themselves. As a result most of mainland Europe now distrusts their vaccine.
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25/03/2021 13:40:01 0 12
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine (like the USA) because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 13:56:49 1 0
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You can't help thinking it? Or you can't help repeating the conspiracy theory nonsense here?
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25/03/2021 11:54:19 18 1
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As usual its all about money. What a depressing world we live in. This is always going to be the case when governments are owned by large corporations like big pharma.

People don't actually matter if there's a lot of money to be grifted.
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25/03/2021 11:56:37 20 6
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WRONG!

It is all about politics - the EU has a lot to answer for and should be investigated by the WHO.
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25/03/2021 12:11:12 3 0
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I heard that Roger Daltrey is fuming...
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25/03/2021 12:19:10 4 2
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The WHO has no power over the EU, or anyone else for that matter. And you cannot investigate people for expressing a concern, however much you may disagree with it.
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25/03/2021 12:21:33 2 0
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It’s both.
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25/03/2021 11:56:46 36 1
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It’s difficult to understand the reasons behind the public bashing of a drug and company that is working for the common good, other than to discredit it for commercial and political reasons. On issue of production should we not be busy in building more of our own production sites so reliance on other countries is reduced. More production has to be good globally as well as nationally?
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25/03/2021 12:11:22 1 17
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This is not for the "common good" in the way many like to believe. Pharmaceutical companies with shareholders do not suddenly become charities, nor should anyone expect them to.
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25/03/2021 11:56:50 36 0
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The fewer countries willing to use AstraZeneca the more doses there should be for British people.
I’ve had my first jab and can’t wait for my second.
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25/03/2021 11:56:59 75 1
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So great to see a company doing this not for profit for the good of everyone (eventually EU!)

Such a shame that others are trying to profit from all this
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25/03/2021 13:20:15 14 0
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In the long term this vaccine will dominate. Who would want the Pfizer vaccine next year? Well done Oxford / AZ.
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25/03/2021 11:49:15 86 3
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It's a great shame that the EU are sitting on millions of Oxford jabs - if they're not going to use them, they should give them to countries that will. If the EU don't want to save their own citizens lives, that's up to them.
I had mine on Mon and feel fine. Glad to have had it.
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25/03/2021 12:19:59 47 0
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I’ve had it to. So have many of my friends and family. Some have had minor side effects for a couple of days but we are all fine and feel very lucky to have had it.
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25/03/2021 14:06:55 0 0
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No doubt some of those does will end up expiring before they use them
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25/03/2021 18:08:31 0 0
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They're sitting on the second doses cos they're unsure of actual delivery, so second doses stored in fridges for 12 weeks. When a company promises 120m, then 30m and deilvers 17m, it's a problem. Curiously, exactly 13m to EU missing was found in Italy. Whatever about trial data missing to EU and US, production has clearly failed to meet promises. And the death toll is rising.
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25/03/2021 11:57:19 32 1
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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25/03/2021 11:57:22 240 4
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic. "

Wonder if this one of the real reasons they are having so many "problems" in certain countries.
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25/03/2021 12:03:15 169 3
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Yes, it does seem that those who are set to make a profit will benefit if the 'at cost' vaccine is refused. Perhaps there is a connection somewhere. It seems suspicious that AZ is being given such a hard time when it clearly works as the UK rollout shows.
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25/03/2021 12:07:22 3 10
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I don't know if the 'at cost' claim has ever been verified. And it may well include costs such as executive bonuses. But that is fair enough, they are not a charity.
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25/03/2021 13:03:24 1 10
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They may be selling at cost but they have already received billions in grants to get it off the ground - far more than what is needed for an older generation vaccine and the cost of the trials.
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25/03/2021 11:57:39 0 26
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Fergus

There were 8 cases of severe covid in the trial, all in the control group.

This is good news but it most certainly does not mean the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing severe cases of the disease. (no vaccine is) The sample space is just too small to assume that.

It would be best if AZ did not lie and not try to trump up assumptions that can't be verified.
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25/03/2021 12:18:33 3 0
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They can only report what the results are in the trials. If there weren’t any serious cases of Covid in the vaccinated group they can’t report them. The real world vaccination programme in the U.K. showed a 90% efficacy rate against severe Covid after the first jab and a 95% efficacy rate after the second jab. By any measure that is a very effective vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:50:02 187 18
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Why you are getting downvotes is beyond me. Macron said AZ was “quasi-ineffective” before he had any knowledge of the science. If that isn’t playing politics I don’t know what is. If Boris had said that about a French vaccine, it would spawn-anti Tory riots on our streets.
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25/03/2021 11:57:39 31 5
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It's macron doing the down voting
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25/03/2021 11:57:52 47 3
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Sorry, I am not really interested in what the US, EU or anyone else does as regards which/when/ vaccination takes place. It is their affair. The UK vaccination programme has been hugely successful and hopefully will continue to be so.
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25/03/2021 12:00:55 14 1
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they just cant stand it or let it go
They deserve their success
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25/03/2021 12:03:14 3 1
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You should be, in a global pandemic.
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25/03/2021 12:06:28 7 1
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For our sakes it IS important what happens in the EU, US and everywhere.
If the world is not vaccinated we will have outbreak after outbreak and there will never be a return to a semblance of normality.
You can see that already in Europe - what happens there will hit us at some point.
We have to work with the biotech industry and world governments and vaccinate everyone..
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25/03/2021 12:08:21 6 1
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Sorry, but I really get interested when they start thr strong arm stuff to relieve us of our share of vaccine for their own consumption. ??
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25/03/2021 11:57:59 15 4
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Its all very well having high efficacy rates but if you don't have the facilities to produce the vaccines at the required number then it all becomes a moot point.
I think the US will be far more troublesome than the EU when they fail to deliver as they have failed to deliver in the EU.
Not that I have much sympathy for the EU who have shot themselves in the foot so many times..
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25/03/2021 12:02:13 7 0
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It's a pity they didn't shoot the vaccine into the arms!
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25/03/2021 12:02:21 5 0
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if the eu and us dont want Az or things british more like
Then use something else and we will have all that Az has
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25/03/2021 12:12:24 5 0
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There are 29 million doses of the OxfordAZ vaccine sat in a warehouse in Italy that were produced in Belgium at a factory the EU cannot be bothered to safety certify. The EU countries also have more millions of OAZ vaccine unused yet complain they are not receiving sufficient supplies from Astra Zeneca . All the other vaccines have deaths also, so why no publicity about those?
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25/03/2021 12:15:36 4 0
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The EU has millions of doses of the AZ vaccine sitting in fridges unused. Maybe they should administer them before shouting about getting more. This situation is of their own creation.
There been any research on the claim it can made you sterile? Removed
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Ant
25/03/2021 12:02:31 3 0
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Claimed by whom?
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25/03/2021 12:02:59 2 0
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then dont take it, let it go
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25/03/2021 12:06:37 4 0
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No, because that's untrue and you are just a very stupid anti-vax scaremonger!
For the vaccine to make anyone sterile then their reproductive system cells would have to be 'shaped' the same as the exterior of the covid-19 virus, where we know that they are not.
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25/03/2021 12:12:44 2 0
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They're looking for a volunteer for one large dose. Whose genes wont be missed
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25/03/2021 12:12:46 2 1
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That’s a myth. No vaccine has ever had any adverse effects on certify, stop spreading dangerous misinformation.
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25/03/2021 12:46:45 0 0
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There is a very strong correlation between those refusing the jab and those beleiving made up mumbo jumbo such as:

Downs syndrome - the vaccine adds an extra chromosome
Chip insertion - Bill Gates, the philanthropic bogeyman
Vaccines kill million of people - and of course diseases don't
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25/03/2021 11:54:19 18 1
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As usual its all about money. What a depressing world we live in. This is always going to be the case when governments are owned by large corporations like big pharma.

People don't actually matter if there's a lot of money to be grifted.
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25/03/2021 11:58:04 3 9
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A couple of points - EVERYTHING is about money.

1) What do you do for free?
2) AZ are supplying the vaccine at cost
3) Doing things for the 'greater good' has been tried in the USSR and many others - all that happens is a few ultra-rich and lots of very poor
4) Doctors, nurses, scientists don't work for free - if you work hard you should be rewarded
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25/03/2021 12:21:06 3 2
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That's funny. Downvotes for saying doctors and scientists don't work for free.

I despair at many of the people here.
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25/03/2021 11:52:52 30 1
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I think we also have to take into account that AZ found that the spacing out of the second dose appeared to increase efficiency.
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25/03/2021 11:58:31 1 14
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Only for AZ.
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25/03/2021 12:23:10 5 1
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He said AZ. AZ can’t comment on other companies vaccines. Pfizer haven’t tested the 12 week strategy so don’t have the data available.
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25/03/2021 11:47:59 336 22
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This is fantastic news: an affordable, transportable and quickly produced vaccine can only be good for the world.

It’s extremely disappointing to have witnessed the unbelievable negative press AZ has received from the EU which has irreversibly damaged its reputation. Whilst AZ has been under immense scrutiny, the other vaccines have not. Playing politics with critical healthcare has cost lives.
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25/03/2021 11:59:12 225 28
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Yes any controversies over this vaccine have been spearheaded by spiteful EU leaders who have done everything they can to discredit this vaccine and now wonder why their populace don't trust it. That along with the out to make a profit out of the vaccine pharmas tearing their hair out at AZ's decision to go for not for profit. Well done AZ, you really are saving the world.
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25/03/2021 12:04:41 31 0
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Sadly you’re completely correct. I’m sure many countries hate AZ simply because it lessens the profits from their own vaccines.

Sadly, this whole episode has revealed the brilliance of humankind (the science) but especially the ugliness- counties playing politics and big pharma companies behaving as we all know they do.
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25/03/2021 12:30:28 19 4
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In fact, the EMA, the EU regulator, has always supported use of the AZ vaccine.

EU members, as sovereign states, can take or leave the EU advice.
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25/03/2021 12:34:48 2 9
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The EU are not the problem with regard to the image of the OAZ vaccine. Its notable leaders of coutries. Their politicians being no better than ours
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25/03/2021 12:35:47 13 0
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Re "vaccine pharmas tearing their hair out at AZ's decision to go for not for profit"
I understand that the Oxford team stipulated the not for profit nature of the deal, then went looking for a manufacturer. But good on them for being happy to work on this basis.
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25/03/2021 11:59:14 3 24
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Anyone who believes that AZ is acting out of altruism doesn't understand big business.
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25/03/2021 12:06:12 6 0
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Maybe so, but it probably makes less profit long-term than the other companies that will be making billions from this and is more beneficial to the poor nations.
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25/03/2021 12:06:46 1 1
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EU has probably guarenteed that no pharma company of repute will sell any drug or vaccine at cost or share its research and development.
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25/03/2021 12:07:20 4 0
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Indeed it’s rare to find anyone behaving altruistically, it’s a human trait to want to have some benefit from any action, even if they are unaware of that need. No doubt AZ would hope for positive publicity and increased sales of their other products for example but It doesn’t detract from their actions on this vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:52:17 8 2
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Fine, if you don't want the AZ jab then off you go to Russia. You can even claim that it is for medical purposes & not pay the £5k when leaving the UK. I'm sure that they will welcome you with open arms
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25/03/2021 11:59:26 0 11
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I have no intention of getting vaccinated until the current human trials or inoculation program as you probably call it, has revealed its results. Maybe sometime next year.
It’s utter morons like you who will prolong this pandemic. What do you know that the BMA, WHO and CDC don’t? Stick to your infantile conspiracy BS and don’t bore the arse off the grown ups in the room! Removed
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25/03/2021 11:51:18 11 120
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So the fact that they lied about the efficiency of the vaccine is vaccine nationalism on the US' part?
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25/03/2021 11:59:53 13 2
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No lie. Mistake.
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25/03/2021 13:36:48 0 1
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Yes, they mistakenly forgot to use their more recent, lower efficacy figures.
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25/03/2021 11:53:17 129 8
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic."

This here is the crux of the situation. The US are obviously more interested in the profits of Pfizer in particular. The EU Commission have cocked their vaccine rollout up and see it as an easy political football.

Kindness gets you absolutely nowhere.
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25/03/2021 12:00:02 126 2
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Furthermore AZ went for an easily stored vaccine.

Pfizer and others went for the quick -80 degC option. OK for Western countries, not much cop for Asia, South America or Africa.

AZ tried to make their vaccine affordable and flexible and have received nothing but abuse.
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25/03/2021 11:50:02 187 18
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Why you are getting downvotes is beyond me. Macron said AZ was “quasi-ineffective” before he had any knowledge of the science. If that isn’t playing politics I don’t know what is. If Boris had said that about a French vaccine, it would spawn-anti Tory riots on our streets.
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25/03/2021 12:00:09 27 2
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And now he wonders why the French don't trust the vaccine to work,
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25/03/2021 11:51:38 4 21
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I see Fergus.

"The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%"

Its an Anglo-Swedish today when the efficacy is downgraded but it was a British company when the 79% was announced a few days ago.
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25/03/2021 12:00:27 5 0
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Well I didn't see the Swedes getting too much grief from the EU.
In fact, they didn't get any grief or threats from the EU.
Did you notice that?
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25/03/2021 11:57:52 47 3
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Sorry, I am not really interested in what the US, EU or anyone else does as regards which/when/ vaccination takes place. It is their affair. The UK vaccination programme has been hugely successful and hopefully will continue to be so.
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25/03/2021 12:00:55 14 1
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they just cant stand it or let it go
They deserve their success
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25/03/2021 12:01:03 31 3
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You would think with a world wide pandemic all producers of a vaccine would be selling it like AZ at cost price. Greed by Pfizer etc is the typical American way of profiteering from people loss, in this case lives.

I suspect the scientists in the US are the opposition looking to delay/stop AZ from getting approval.
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25/03/2021 12:01:06 112 2
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Definitely some lessons learned for AZ in the future from all this, mostly around managing perception.

But then they weren't a vaccine producer before the pandemic, and are new to this, and only got involved because of the funding and underwriting offered by the UK Gov.

They are also producing at cost, which makes them a big target for the other Pharma companies.
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25/03/2021 12:48:11 39 0
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Exactly this. AZ are using it to get in to the market and will be learning all along the way. It was good work by the Govt to partner Oxford and AZ and set the parameters. It also reduced nationalism and protectionism in supply (Trump) and hopefully wont be so affected by EU effects
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25/03/2021 13:40:28 0 0
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They are a pharmaceutical company who produce medicines and educational materials. There's no point managing perceptions when the EC is distributing fake news.
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25/03/2021 14:10:59 0 0
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It is only at cost until the pandemic is over, which AstraZeneca can say in July this year.

https://www.ft.com/content/c474f9e1-8807-4e57-9c79-6f4af145b686
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25/03/2021 11:48:59 47 1
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100% against severe case is brilliant. Can't wait for my jab.
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25/03/2021 11:51:34 26 2
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My only side effect was (and is 3 days later) a bloody sore arm.
If it means I can go to the pub, great. Mine's a pint.
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25/03/2021 12:42:51 2 0
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Had mine last Wednesday, muscle aches and snuffles for 24 - 48 hours now back to being my old self, much to the annoyance of her in drawers.
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25/03/2021 11:48:14 2 37
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So as the king clown said it was greed and capitalism that got us the vaccine...that actually is only 76% effective compared to the Russian vaccine Sputnik which is 92% effective you'd have to agree that greed and capitalism are failures.
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25/03/2021 11:53:16 3 2
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Move to Moscow - I'm sure they'll happily give you a Sputnik.
Good luck with that.
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25/03/2021 11:50:02 187 18
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Why you are getting downvotes is beyond me. Macron said AZ was “quasi-ineffective” before he had any knowledge of the science. If that isn’t playing politics I don’t know what is. If Boris had said that about a French vaccine, it would spawn-anti Tory riots on our streets.
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25/03/2021 12:02:10 36 9
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We all know the ones down voting as we have to read their pro EU drivel on here most days
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25/03/2021 11:57:59 15 4
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Its all very well having high efficacy rates but if you don't have the facilities to produce the vaccines at the required number then it all becomes a moot point.
I think the US will be far more troublesome than the EU when they fail to deliver as they have failed to deliver in the EU.
Not that I have much sympathy for the EU who have shot themselves in the foot so many times..
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25/03/2021 12:02:13 7 0
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It's a pity they didn't shoot the vaccine into the arms!
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25/03/2021 11:55:15 40 5
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I hope the history books are kind to AZ. What they have achieved is phenomenal.

I hope the same history books tell an accurate story of how damaging the EU dictatorship has been to its vaccine roll out and protecting their vulnerable citizens.
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25/03/2021 11:57:59 15 4
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Its all very well having high efficacy rates but if you don't have the facilities to produce the vaccines at the required number then it all becomes a moot point.
I think the US will be far more troublesome than the EU when they fail to deliver as they have failed to deliver in the EU.
Not that I have much sympathy for the EU who have shot themselves in the foot so many times..
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25/03/2021 12:02:21 5 0
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if the eu and us dont want Az or things british more like
Then use something else and we will have all that Az has
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25/03/2021 11:50:35 591 14
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I actually feel quite sorry for AZ. Whatever they do, somebody complains and critises. They are the only not-for-profit vaccine producer and the world should be thankful.
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25/03/2021 12:02:26 331 10
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I agree. They have commented that they won't be doing a not for profit vaccine again in the future as it's not worth the slander and criticism they're getting and I can't really blame them.
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25/03/2021 12:19:40 12 18
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Have they now? That sounds very unlikely to me. A reference please to this alleged comment from AZ.
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25/03/2021 12:32:00 2 11
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Really? Link please.
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25/03/2021 12:54:55 20 1
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Probably the goal of a lot of the critism.
Not good for money-making companies if a competitor does it not-for-profit.
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25/03/2021 12:40:22 1 20
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AstraZeneca have said no such thing.
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25/03/2021 13:48:11 5 0
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AZ vaccine is a threat to big pharma profits, all countries should be backing them, if they don't carry on we'll be paying big pharma via aid to low and middle income countries.
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25/03/2021 13:54:01 0 4
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Have you ever considered the fact that much of the criticism is from people in the know. Anything that involves our government stinks of “capitalist greed” . The vaccine generally works and is cheap, it’s the business element that mostly raises valid questions of integrity and transparency
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25/03/2021 13:56:54 4 0
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They've made the other big pharma companies look bad and so they are out for their pound of flesh.

Sad that they haven't received more global support.

Though history will rightfully laud them in time.
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25/03/2021 14:21:02 0 0
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AZ wasnt the first pharma co. to be approached as Oxford's partner...whichever company(ies) said "no thanks" could see the aggravation coming.
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Deb
25/03/2021 15:47:28 0 0
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That’s a shame, but understandable.
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25/03/2021 11:51:38 4 21
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I see Fergus.

"The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%"

Its an Anglo-Swedish today when the efficacy is downgraded but it was a British company when the 79% was announced a few days ago.
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25/03/2021 12:02:26 2 0
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The greatest problem the AZ vaccine has is the designation 'British' vaccine. The minute British was added to the designation the EU (and others) were going to find fault.

I suspect the vaccine developed by AZ relied heavily on people and support from all nationalities. Then relied heavily on people across the globe to actually make the vaccine.

Stop fighting and focus on saving lives!
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25/03/2021 12:02:31 3 0
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Claimed by whom?
Not a fan of AZ but objectively speaking how Americans would give a green light or be positive about it when they want to make healthy profits selling their own tsunami of vaccines Pfizer and others ready to be shipped around the world any moment.
Special relationship my neck. They will backstab your AZ without any hesitation. EU did so the capitalist USoA would not? Wait and see.
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25/03/2021 12:18:28 0 0
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Makes sense for them to protect their own businesses. Sadly the UK never did that and now all the key British businesses are are foreign owned. German minis, Polish/US Cadbury bars etc.
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25/03/2021 12:02:59 2 0
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then dont take it, let it go
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25/03/2021 12:03:05 14 0
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We are talking about the world needing to be vaccinated, and that’s not going to happen unless the vaccine is cheap enough and also can be transported safely and quickly. All this and the Chinese, and Russian wait and supply vaccines and up their status. The West again shots it’s self in the foot by bad mouthing A/Z
I had my jab so even if I got Covid it would keep me out of hospital.
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25/03/2021 11:57:22 240 4
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic. "

Wonder if this one of the real reasons they are having so many "problems" in certain countries.
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25/03/2021 12:03:15 169 3
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Yes, it does seem that those who are set to make a profit will benefit if the 'at cost' vaccine is refused. Perhaps there is a connection somewhere. It seems suspicious that AZ is being given such a hard time when it clearly works as the UK rollout shows.
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25/03/2021 12:19:47 18 0
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It works really well. My mother is in a care home, they had an outbreak of Covid, three of the residents tested positive. No one displayed any symptoms!

Prior to the vaccine some would have been really ill or worse.
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25/03/2021 13:38:13 2 6
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If only AZ had followed proper scientific protocol (ie test data) on realeasing their vaccine, we wouldn't have this problem.
I live in Switzerland and the Swiss still have not approved the vaccine (like the USA) because AZ still have not supplied the data on their tests!
Very poor company practice by AZ - no wonder the scientific comunity are angry about this
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25/03/2021 13:18:20 2 0
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All companies benefit if their competitors are excluded from a market. It has nothing to do with their selling price.
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25/03/2021 11:46:29 251 3
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Yep. Three days feeling rough was well worth it, bring on the second jab.
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25/03/2021 12:03:15 38 0
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Tell me about it! Rough as a badger's for 48 hours.

Thought if this is mild compared to Covid....glad I've not had Covid!
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25/03/2021 12:26:27 14 2
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I did get CoViD and this felt like it's back ... but gladly just for 48 hours ... trust me CoViD itself is like this but worse for 7-14 days with psychological effects added ... lucky for some who didn't feel CoViD or the jab ...
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25/03/2021 14:27:51 1 0
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I've had Covid, and the AZ jab. Trust me, the jab's side effects were nothing compared to Covid and the year of long Covid I've suffered since. Covid nearly killed me, I just felt like I had flu for a day or two after the jab.
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25/03/2021 12:03:22 25 0
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I'd quite like to see the same level of scrutiny given to both Pfizer and Moderna. I also look forward to seeing both companies donate a huge chunk of the $billions they stand to make from their vaccines back into academic research.
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25/03/2021 12:03:27 19 1
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Only in the times we're living in now could people find something to complain about with this vaccine.
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25/03/2021 11:56:26 51 5
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Fergus Walsh saysThis is the latest in a string of controversies surrounding the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, over dosing, efficacy in the elderly, clots and supplies to the EU. I would counteract that by saying controversy driven by a spiteful group of EU leaders who need to grow up and accept the UK have left the EU and who have been utterly incompetent in their management of the vaccine rollout
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25/03/2021 12:03:45 40 2
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Politics at play, EU wanted to push Pfizer as it was part German, and costs 5 times as much. Yet Pfizer actually had more blood clotting incidents than AZ, go figure...
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25/03/2021 12:03:56 35 1
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I'm wondering if some of the targetting of AZ is actually coming from the "big pharma" competition. AZ are selling not-for-profit that's a huge hit to the other companies who are seeking profit. The best approach is to knock confidence in AZ and get people to buy yours instead. Slightly suspicious that none of the questions have been raised at the for-profit vaccines with similar stats and issues
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25/03/2021 13:35:03 5 0
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'Slightly suspicious'? - It stinks like a rotting corpse!
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25/03/2021 12:04:06 43 2
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There is so much vaccine politics at play. Pfizer and Moderna want to make money from covid...this is the chief reason that Astra Zeneca is being attacked by EU and US. Interesting that the EU has only used 30% of the astra zeneca supplies... but yet wants more from the UK? Is it to stop the UK's vaccine programme... dirty politics
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25/03/2021 12:10:58 21 1
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Well spotted. The AZ vaccine is being sold not for profit. The others are being sold at a profit.
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25/03/2021 12:04:08 21 2
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AZ owners deserve knighthoods even if not all are Brits.
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25/03/2021 12:06:24 8 1
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Irish citizens can still get it
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25/03/2021 12:04:18 74 1
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It is as if certain governments have a problem with a pharmaceutical company offering vaccines at cost.
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25/03/2021 12:16:42 29 0
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The reason AZ is selling 'at cost' is that Oxford University, who developed it insisted so; otherwise they would have dealt with another company. In India they are producing it under another name.
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25/03/2021 11:57:52 47 3
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Sorry, I am not really interested in what the US, EU or anyone else does as regards which/when/ vaccination takes place. It is their affair. The UK vaccination programme has been hugely successful and hopefully will continue to be so.
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25/03/2021 12:03:14 3 1
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You should be, in a global pandemic.
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25/03/2021 11:59:12 225 28
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Yes any controversies over this vaccine have been spearheaded by spiteful EU leaders who have done everything they can to discredit this vaccine and now wonder why their populace don't trust it. That along with the out to make a profit out of the vaccine pharmas tearing their hair out at AZ's decision to go for not for profit. Well done AZ, you really are saving the world.
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25/03/2021 12:04:41 31 0
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Sadly you’re completely correct. I’m sure many countries hate AZ simply because it lessens the profits from their own vaccines.

Sadly, this whole episode has revealed the brilliance of humankind (the science) but especially the ugliness- counties playing politics and big pharma companies behaving as we all know they do.
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25/03/2021 13:45:26 1 1
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Certainly OUR Prime Minister highlighted how important Capitalism and Greed were in his world-view!
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25/03/2021 12:04:51 34 0
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I've had it and am very grateful to some clever people for the wonderful things they have done.

I wish I was as clever as them and I then too could help people the way that these geniuses have.

Thank you.
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25/03/2021 12:05:04 9 3
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I'm sure that the anti-AZ and anti-UK 'Europeans' will jump on this and stop using the AZ vaccine and stop everyone else from using it through export bans

Oh wait a minute, they already have!
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25/03/2021 12:05:30 5 16
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A very important piece of information missing from this BBC article is that the 76% efficacy rate claimed by Astra Zeneca is based upon 2 doses being given 4 weeks apart.

Since the British population are being given doses 12 weeks apart this is hardly relevant.
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25/03/2021 12:07:30 5 3
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Best not have the first dose then?

You'll show 'The Tories'!

PMSL
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25/03/2021 12:09:48 4 0
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AZ has the data to prove that their vaccine is even more efficacious with an 8-12 week delay. They only used 4 weeks in the trials to get them completed sooner.
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25/03/2021 11:59:14 3 24
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Anyone who believes that AZ is acting out of altruism doesn't understand big business.
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25/03/2021 12:06:12 6 0
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Maybe so, but it probably makes less profit long-term than the other companies that will be making billions from this and is more beneficial to the poor nations.
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25/03/2021 12:04:08 21 2
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AZ owners deserve knighthoods even if not all are Brits.
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25/03/2021 12:06:24 8 1
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Irish citizens can still get it
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25/03/2021 12:06:24 15 3
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I don't understand the furore in Europe over this vaccine. Considering the criticism levelled at the vaccine, and all the problems they think it causes, you would think they would be extremely grateful that we are taking it all away? Ah well, there's gratitude for you!
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25/03/2021 11:57:52 47 3
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Sorry, I am not really interested in what the US, EU or anyone else does as regards which/when/ vaccination takes place. It is their affair. The UK vaccination programme has been hugely successful and hopefully will continue to be so.
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25/03/2021 12:06:28 7 1
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For our sakes it IS important what happens in the EU, US and everywhere.
If the world is not vaccinated we will have outbreak after outbreak and there will never be a return to a semblance of normality.
You can see that already in Europe - what happens there will hit us at some point.
We have to work with the biotech industry and world governments and vaccinate everyone..
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25/03/2021 12:06:37 4 0
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No, because that's untrue and you are just a very stupid anti-vax scaremonger!
For the vaccine to make anyone sterile then their reproductive system cells would have to be 'shaped' the same as the exterior of the covid-19 virus, where we know that they are not.
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25/03/2021 11:59:14 3 24
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Anyone who believes that AZ is acting out of altruism doesn't understand big business.
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25/03/2021 12:06:46 1 1
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EU has probably guarenteed that no pharma company of repute will sell any drug or vaccine at cost or share its research and development.
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25/03/2021 12:06:47 47 1
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Isn't it suspicious that the "at cost" Oxford A/Z vaccine is getting a kicking in the west. Do you think that multi billion dollar pharma companies may be lobbying politicians to discredit it?
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25/03/2021 12:13:45 3 20
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No. There were supply issues in Europe that AZ themselves accepted. But you could make up a conspiracy theory if you want.
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25/03/2021 11:59:14 3 24
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Anyone who believes that AZ is acting out of altruism doesn't understand big business.
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25/03/2021 12:07:20 4 0
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Indeed it’s rare to find anyone behaving altruistically, it’s a human trait to want to have some benefit from any action, even if they are unaware of that need. No doubt AZ would hope for positive publicity and increased sales of their other products for example but It doesn’t detract from their actions on this vaccine.
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25/03/2021 12:05:30 5 16
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A very important piece of information missing from this BBC article is that the 76% efficacy rate claimed by Astra Zeneca is based upon 2 doses being given 4 weeks apart.

Since the British population are being given doses 12 weeks apart this is hardly relevant.
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25/03/2021 12:07:30 5 3
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Best not have the first dose then?

You'll show 'The Tories'!

PMSL
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25/03/2021 12:05:54 12 1
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The murky connection between Big Pharma and the people in power becoming more evident by the hour.
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25/03/2021 12:12:28 1 5
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Wing nut conspiracy theorists will be making up more imaginative nonsense now.
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25/03/2021 11:57:52 47 3
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Sorry, I am not really interested in what the US, EU or anyone else does as regards which/when/ vaccination takes place. It is their affair. The UK vaccination programme has been hugely successful and hopefully will continue to be so.
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25/03/2021 12:08:21 6 1
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Sorry, but I really get interested when they start thr strong arm stuff to relieve us of our share of vaccine for their own consumption. ??
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25/03/2021 12:08:27 13 1
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For whatever reason this vaccine should now be available to do its ultimate function, a life saver for the world
Was disheartening to see it trashed in the eyes of those countries who so desperately need a vaccine to help them and our own futures
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25/03/2021 12:08:35 9 2
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Many will look back in the years to come at the politics at play here over a health issue that will cost thousands of extra lives. Disgusting.
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25/03/2021 11:49:18 103 5
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I hope that one day the extent to which politicians in various countries have played vaccine nationalism and other major drug companies have distorted facts, both to imply some lack of efficacy in the AZ vaccine is revealed. The motives of both are scandalous with politics and profits being put ahead of global public health.
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25/03/2021 12:08:49 12 3
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AZ hasn't done themselves any favours.

Screwing up the dosage during the trials hasn't helped their credibility, nor has their focus on younger people during their trials. All these errors have helped drive the negative comments.

All that aside, the millions of successful inoculations will ultimately prove the value of the AZ product, the few 'possible' problems will be long forgotten.
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25/03/2021 12:29:47 8 0
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but with the smaller doses they did discover a better result
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25/03/2021 12:47:49 1 5
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"...All that aside, the millions of successful inoculations will ultimately prove the value of the AZ product, the few 'possible' problems will be long forgotten."

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Look up "inoculation". The word you are struggling to find is "vaccine". Different things. I believe the Sputnik treatment is an inoculation but AZ is a vaccine.
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25/03/2021 14:24:06 0 0
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Thank god someone who talks sense.
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25/03/2021 11:50:36 441 6
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So, as I understand it, the Oxford-AZ vaccine has undergone two separate Phase 3 trials (one run by Oxford and one by AZ). Both trials have shown that the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing hospitalisation and serious illness, in tens of thousands of people. Both have shown it to be safe. It is cheap and practical to roll out across the world. Incredible achievement by both AZ and Oxford.
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25/03/2021 12:09:04 36 391
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Problem is that we won't export any. How can we expect to return to normalty with open borders while the UK continues to hog all the vaccines.
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25/03/2021 12:14:22 53 11
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We will when we've jabbed our own. On balance not unreasonable.
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25/03/2021 12:14:41 104 3
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It's being used all over the world -as the Oxf-AZN 'technology' has been exported '
at cost
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25/03/2021 12:15:33 78 2
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Because we export some of the ingredients and there are manufacturing facilities outside the UK
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25/03/2021 12:16:09 99 2
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I have to say I admire your constant postings which are wide of the mark.

WE don't export vaccines - AZ do. AZ are exporting their part in the manufacture of the Pfizer vaccine. We, as in the UK, have a contract with AZ amongst others to supply complete vaccines. Others have contracts, some would say with imprecise language, many months after ours were negotiated.
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25/03/2021 12:27:52 67 2
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Shipments were dispatched last week to Ghana and Cote D’Ivoire, and more are due to begin arriving this week in the Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Mongolia and Moldova. This supply represents the first COVID-19 vaccine for many of these countries.

The majority of these doses, manufactured by AstraZeneca and its licence partner Serum Institute of India, will go to low and middle-income countries.
Which is better? Exporting the capacity and intellectual property to 20 sites globally so the world have access to it at cost or manufacturing a tenth of that capacity in the UK and exporting that?

Idiot.
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25/03/2021 12:31:50 13 3
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It is reported 30M AZ doses in storage in the US , now that appears like hogging supplies
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25/03/2021 12:35:41 27 0
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Except it is being manufactured around the world (India USA, Belgium, Netherlands etc)
We didn't drag our feet over the Approval process and continue to throw buckets of money to get Jabs in arms where the EU have dithered and now under pressure to explain what went wrong, easier to blame someone else.
I can't find the link, but think it is 14 Million AZ Vaccines the EU have but not used.
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25/03/2021 12:37:41 23 2
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We are NOT hoarding vaccines we are in fact short because of supplies from India. Don’t forget we took the early risk of funding increased production facilities in the UK . If the EU had done the same they wouldn’t have had the delays they did. The Uk was also one of the first to send funds to purchase overseas vaccines for poorer countries
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25/03/2021 12:40:37 27 6
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You apparently wish to overlook that the world will have a cheap not for profit vaccine which is by far the most easily stored and distributed one, ALL DEVELOPED AS A RESULT OF UK GOVERNMENT's FUNDING AND UK TAXPAYERS. As a result it is already being produced around the world by highly populous poorer nations and many other less capable nations will benefit too. Be grateful in Nevada etc.
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25/03/2021 12:41:10 3 33
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It was D.Trump who started vaccine nationalists and Boris followed albeit through the back door with approval of AstraZeneca....they could be the big losers in the end!
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25/03/2021 12:42:58 18 1
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If only there were a vaccine to prevent comments like this
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25/03/2021 12:43:02 23 3
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WHAT!!!!
UK stashing all the Oxford vaccines away ????????????
What about the 30m doses stashed away , as you call it , in a port in Italy????
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25/03/2021 12:46:23 5 0
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As the aircraft safety announcement goes ...

"In the event of emergency, oxygen masks will deploy. Put yours on first before helping a child. If you have more than one child, take time now to decide which one you love more. "
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25/03/2021 12:46:48 20 1
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Which is better? Exporting the capacity and intellectual property to 20 sites globally so the world have access to it at cost or manufacturing a tenth of that capacity in the UK and exporting that?

lol
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25/03/2021 12:37:48 16 0
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AZ vaccines are also being manufactured in other parts of the world so no one is hogging anything, if the Europeans got their act together instead of banning the jab every other week they might make a little bit of progress.
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25/03/2021 12:49:14 7 0
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Don't you read the newspapers? Why do you think the EU have not put any embargo on us? Are you von der leyen in disguise?
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25/03/2021 12:51:57 1 2
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UK got in early and paid for guaranteed supplies, so AZ have to supply us.

All very sound legally.

In truth, the ethics of it don't sit very easily with me as things have played out; we're absorbing supplies that would save more lives elsewhere.

The fundamental responsibility lies with those that didn't prepare ahead, not saying otherwise, but still.
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25/03/2021 12:52:07 11 1
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The UK doesn't own any vaccines, they belong the AZ who distribute according to any contracts they have. As a country we have given £528m to COVAX, this will allow countries to obtain vaccine.

That second coffee may help!
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25/03/2021 13:01:43 12 1
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You’re pathetic!
AZ have far more plants overseas producing the vaccine than they have in the UK!
If other countries had’t been playing stupid politics, they would have been able to access this vaccine as quickly as the uK did!
The EU haven’t even approved the vaccine produced out of The Netherland’s plant yet!
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25/03/2021 12:42:56 5 0
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I am sure we will share in fact thats exactly what Covax achieves so your first point is untrue. Second point. Imagine turning up to a bring a bottle party empty handed and (3 months late) complaining your supply of drinks is limited and trying to block drinks to all the other poeple their. charging a kings ransome for their product but expecting everyone else to suply the raw ingrediants.
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25/03/2021 13:06:04 4 0
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I'm sure that it has been pointed out that AZ vaccine is being made around the world and UK plants are supplying UK. However, it appears from BBC just now that UK offered vaccines to Ireland to keep them in step as part of the UK/Ireland CTA and Ireland declined to stay aligned with the EU? If I were and Irish citizen right now I would be asking some serious questions off my government
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25/03/2021 13:07:58 4 1
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Given the low quality of your daily comments, you really should change you ID to the Voice of Idiocy.
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25/03/2021 13:10:22 3 1
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The trouble is with media, social media, HYS and even some politicians tgat fact seems to be less important than opinion. There is no "we" no exporting - the jab is owned and exported by the company. The jabs the EU are waiting for are made in the EU ... but not owned by the EU. Also, Uk is doing well re numbers,but that's due to advance planning not jab snaffling.
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25/03/2021 13:16:34 4 1
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we don't hog all the vaccines. Don't be silly.
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25/03/2021 13:23:49 3 0
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It is not unreasonable at all, plus, of course, the UK exports components of vaccines to other countries.
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25/03/2021 13:30:33 1 0
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what is the global production of AZ vaccine? what is the UK production capacity?
Do you think the only way to share the benefit is to move little bottles of liquid around the world, or is moving IP and producing in many places just as effective?
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25/03/2021 13:30:56 5 1
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Swallowed the EU lies? You must be a remainer. We aren't returning to open borders so criminals can swamp our health service and benefits system. You haven't be paying attention, or too dim to take it in.
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25/03/2021 13:33:03 1 1
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The vaccine is currently in short supply, which is why the schedule for April has been lowered. So, if you don't think we should "hog all the vaccines", then presumably you're in favour of diverting some destined for UK residents (who paid for the research by the way) to people abroad.

Is the one reserved for you included in that diversion or have you already had yours?
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25/03/2021 13:49:53 0 0
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Not true. We have not hogged all the vaccines but we have protected our people. We have made massive investment in the protection of poor countries through the global vaccine initiative.
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25/03/2021 13:52:37 1 1
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And there it is again! The daily reminder that the ironically named 'Voice of Reason' doesn't have a clue how international vaccine production chains work... Probably visualising a big cartoon-style factory with raw ingredients being fed in at one end and boxes of filled vials coming out of the other on a conveyor belt!
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25/03/2021 14:06:01 0 0
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I agree, certainly when all the high risk people have received their jab we should be sending it to countries where healthcare workers and very high risk people have no vaccine. In normal times I travel all around the world and I find the British and the Americans are not liked, this would have been the perfect opportunity to have some good PR now we need it after Brexit
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25/03/2021 14:07:53 0 0
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We?
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25/03/2021 14:08:32 0 0
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AZ doesn't NEED to export any from the UK as they've been paid for and are being administered. AZ have however produced millions of vaccines in Europe, but they're unfortunately sitting on shelves because European leaders have scared their citizens out of taking them for political point scoring...
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25/03/2021 14:16:34 0 0
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I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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25/03/2021 11:57:22 240 4
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"While other companies are set to make billions from their Covid vaccines, AstraZeneca is producing theirs at cost throughout the pandemic. "

Wonder if this one of the real reasons they are having so many "problems" in certain countries.
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25/03/2021 12:07:22 3 10
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I don't know if the 'at cost' claim has ever been verified. And it may well include costs such as executive bonuses. But that is fair enough, they are not a charity.
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25/03/2021 12:09:48 2 4
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Very frustrating AZ continually mess up their PR in such a serious way. Their actions adds significantly to the mistrust in their very effective vaccine.
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25/03/2021 12:05:30 5 16
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A very important piece of information missing from this BBC article is that the 76% efficacy rate claimed by Astra Zeneca is based upon 2 doses being given 4 weeks apart.

Since the British population are being given doses 12 weeks apart this is hardly relevant.
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25/03/2021 12:09:48 4 0
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AZ has the data to prove that their vaccine is even more efficacious with an 8-12 week delay. They only used 4 weeks in the trials to get them completed sooner.
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25/03/2021 12:14:33 0 1
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That is still no justification for the BBC article omitting the fact that the 76% efficacy rate quoted is based on doses given 4 weeks apart.