Covid-19: Pubs could require vaccine passports - Boris Johnson
25/03/2021 | news | politics | 5,396
But one Conservative MP says "papers for pubs" would lead the country into "a ghastly trap".
If a room full of vaccinated people can't cope with a non-vaccinated person in their midst, maybe taking the vaccine was a waste of time. Just a thought. Removed
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Beggars belief doesn’t it. Getting the vaccine is up to the individual not the state.
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someone will attend with the mutated version
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24/03/2021 21:43:05 84 21
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Agree. What’s the point of vaccination if this can’t happen. Covid will ultimately have to be managed like flu which also kills a fair few, you don’t refuse to mix with people who haven’t had a flu jab and Covid must ultimately be the same once vaccination is established.
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Absolutely, fantastically elucidated
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Somebody doesn't understand how viruses/vaccines work.
It's not about individuals being scared of catching covid. The bigger picture is what counts.
Increasing the opportunities for it to spread increases the chance of mutation. THAT could make taking the vaccine a waste of time. (also, vaccines don't work equally well for everyone so don't assume you're safe just because you're vaccinated)
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24/03/2021 22:10:32 27 34
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You’re all missing the point - it’s not about those vaccinated it’s about those not vaccinated who then walk in to a pub spread the virus to the non vaccinated and therefore resulting in the pub to close down while it’s deep cleaned and the source of the spread identified...I don’t like the idea but if people refuse to get vaccinated don’t put businesses at risk - simples
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24/03/2021 22:13:30 29 7
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If the vaccine neither stops you from getting the virus or transmitting it, but only stops you from getting bad symptoms, there doesn't seem much point in having vaccine passports, unless there's other motives. When Jonson announces there's no intention of doing something, like he did for vaccine passports, you know it won't be far away. I've nothing against the vaccine itself btw.
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24/03/2021 22:42:11 9 13
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... point totally missed ... it would be foolhardy for an unvaccinated person to frequent a crowded venue like a pub where the virus may be circulating ...
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24/03/2021 22:46:04 1 2
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That is a fair point.
24/03/2021 23:11:19 7 1
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You are not 100% covered even with the jab, you can still carry the virus, but it is actually the not-vaccinated person that is at greatest risk
24/03/2021 23:16:03 3 2
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Starting to think the same,,!! Smell a rat!!
24/03/2021 23:28:20 2 1
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Vaccine stops one becoming seriously ill. It doesn't stop you taking the virus home to your family, some of whom may not have been vaccinated yet.
Some people must be careful, not for themselves, but for others in their lives. Wife pregnant? Will you go to be a pub which doesn't ask for negative tests?
Let it be up to each pub who gets in. Then we can all make our own choices for our own reasons.
24/03/2021 23:29:02 1 1
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Yes, ffs!
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Hark! the the sound of gammon exploding. Go for it lads.
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100s of thousands queuing at food banks, peaceful protesting outlawed, having to show your “papers”, people being tracked. Did China invade without telling anybody?
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Funny how US intelligence agencies are back to sniffing around the Wuhan lab again isn't it? Recent interviews with knowledgeable people suggesting the virus contains too many hallmarks of engineering to be natural mutations, and that the virus may have been created in the process of creating an antidote for something else.....
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I'd buy a fake one on the dark web before I am forced to take this vaccine to go to a cafe or a pub.
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But you are vaccnated, you can not catch it?
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I'd buy a fake one on the dark web before I am forced to take this vaccine to go to a cafe or a pub.
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100s of thousands queuing at food banks, peaceful protesting outlawed, having to show your “papers”, people being tracked. Did China invade without telling anybody?
Check out Yuri Bezmenov if youw ant to understand how the west has been subverted by communism. Removed
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Or how the west has been subverted by far right nationalism, it's laughable how eyes shut the Brits are. Guess you'll be fine seeing all those union jacks flying everywhere!
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I'd buy a fake one on the dark web before I am forced to take this vaccine to go to a cafe or a pub.
Hopefully, proof of vaccine will be electronic to foil idiots like you. Removed
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If you think this will just be for pubs you are in for a rude awakening.
If they get away with this it will then be sports venues supermarkets and eventually everything.
It is a back door to making vaccines mandatory and turn people against each other
we should all be standing together and not accepting any more laws declared by a dictatorship.
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The level of aggression morons like you display toward anyone who cares about freedom is astounding.

You've spend a year readily consuming scaremongering from fools about how a virus with more than a 99% survival rate will kill us all. Because of that, you lash out at anyone who dares mention silly things like liberty or rights.

It's pathetic and so are you.
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24/03/2021 22:42:50 12 9
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Don't shout that out on the streets ,they'll 'ave you for a noisy one man protest!
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24/03/2021 21:15:56 25 44
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The passport idea is brilliant. Anyone who refuses to get one doesn’t deserve to be allowed into pubs or to go on holiday. Well done the Government for coming up with this scheme! We’re leading the way in the world in getting out of this mess.
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So, get vaccinated then! No brainer. Move on, nothing to see here.
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100s of thousands queuing at food banks, peaceful protesting outlawed, having to show your “papers”, people being tracked. Did China invade without telling anybody?
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24/03/2021 21:47:56 6 11
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????? YES YES YES ??????

Vaccine passports for pubs, cinemas, trains, planes and everything where we're in close confinement.

The virus kills ????????

The world has been shredded, economies devastated ??????

If you choose to (potentially) spread the virus by not having a vaccine then that's your choice, but don't do it near me!

?? Vaccine passports are coming, like it or not ??
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vaccine passport - for what vaccine? for what strain? Just open up. The majority of those susceptible are vaccinated and the other half of the population often either do not suffer any or have mild effects from the virus. Just open up and resume life as before.
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24/03/2021 21:40:10 2 3
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a pangolin and a bat , thats the cause !!! are you mental !! its man made and its going to wipe out a good 25%of the world population ask the real question from china ? it leaked out of a laboratory run by an american professor
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You have no idea what a totalitarian state is like if you think 2021 UK is one.

You should read some history instead of fiction.
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Given a choice I would choose to go to the pub/cinema/shop that required proof of vaccination. Wouldn't want to risk catching anything from some scrubber.
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24/03/2021 21:39:13 7 15
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All these anti vaxx lunatics should be banished from civil society .Hopefully the great reset they bleat about means they are confined to their hones forever lol
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100s of thousands queuing at food banks, peaceful protesting outlawed, having to show your “papers”, people being tracked. Did China invade without telling anybody?
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24/03/2021 21:16:14 627 52
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Roll up roll up, get ya hooky negative test cert from your local dealer soon.
Time to get on with it, open up fully, and as soon as possible. No social distancing, no virtue signalling masks. If you believe that wearing a bacteria filled rag on your face will stop a virus, you are sadly mistaken. And drop the asymptomatic spread charade too. If covid didn't have a 24/7 publicity campaign, then you wouldn't know it was there. Removed
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And we ride the third wave and the fourth , fifth (? ) lockdown . Be sensible dear!
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Surely your comment is going to be taken down...how dare you talk so much sense!
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Sad... but true
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Somebody doesn't understand how viruses/vaccines work.
It's not about individuals being scared of catching covid. The bigger picture is what counts.
Increasing the opportunities for it to spread increases the chance of mutation. THAT could make taking the vaccine a waste of time. (also, vaccines don't work equally well for everyone so don't assume you're safe just because you're vaccinated)
From what youre saying vaccines are a waste of time as you're ot safe even if vaccinated! Removed
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24/03/2021 22:17:07 3 13
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Guess you have not lost anyone you love, or perhaps you have lost your parents from Covid and are de.ignited with the early inheritance.
I suppose you haven't lost anyone to covid - who cares? We will all die - at least covid normally kills people pretty quick. Many other ways of dying can take months or years but the covid normally finishes off peope fairly quick. If you were suffering in agony of something for years, you might be thankful of a shot of covid! Removed
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The level of aggression morons like you display toward anyone who cares about freedom is astounding.

You've spend a year readily consuming scaremongering from fools about how a virus with more than a 99% survival rate will kill us all. Because of that, you lash out at anyone who dares mention silly things like liberty or rights.

It's pathetic and so are you.
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24/03/2021 22:22:07 7 11
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The first thing which occurs to me reading through all the comments on here from the rabid anti-vaxxers foaming at the mouth at the thought of doing anything which may help their fellow citizens, is "gosh, and these people are allowed to vote" - that's a scary thought....
Idiot, getting a jab doesn't help fellow citizens. How is someone so plain ignorant allowed to vote?
You haven't a clue how this vaccine works.
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24/03/2021 22:42:17 1 3
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Funny no HYS on the NHS in Scotland getting offered 4% pay increase, but then no stick to hit the Scottish Government with eh? Biased Broadcasting Corporation at its bent best, again.
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24/03/2021 22:26:43 4 4
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Spot on. Why should I be forced to get a vaccine and have to show my papers just because some sheep are afraid of the flu?
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24/03/2021 21:43:58 24 5
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And this is how the new normal will be enforced. People will think it will be "for their own good" when the reality is the opposite is true
Also, all vulnerable people will be vaccinated against covid, meaning should they catch it, it's extremely unlikely they'll need hospital treatment.
As this is the case, what purpose will a "vaccine passport" serve?
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I wonder if the Old Bill will have to produce a vaccine card before they approach/plough in, to arrest people and also have to sanitise their shields?.... Thought Not'
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I would fully support storming parliament and executing every single MP for treason. Are people out there really so stupid that they think the restrictions are even vaguely commensurate with the extremely low levels of danger posed by Covid? Removed
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Very well said.
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Baloney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree well said
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doug doesn't believe in the threat of a virus, he thinks he is invincible. Doug suddenly becomes ill (not with virus) and needs urgent medical treatment, but alas, the hospitals are full with people being treated for said virus and he can't get the treatment he needs. Doug passes away. Be smart, don't be like Doug.
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We're all going to take the vaccine!! ??

Your actually going to split society in 2
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24/03/2021 23:04:51 6 8
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?? A pub is someone's business.

?? It's up to them if they decide to that it's best for their business to only allow in vaccinated people.

?? If you don't like it, go to one of those anti-vaxer pubs. But of course you won't because they tend to be rougher. The vaxer pubs are nicer and everyone wants to get in. So get a jab!
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24/03/2021 22:37:40 21 14
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No it isn't. The Nuremburg code forbids it. It is complete illegal under the ECHR! Read the damn thing.
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He said that it was up to individual pub owners to decide: do you not actually read what he said before commenting????
Trust this odious individual to look for a way to blame someone else(in this case errant publicans) for the next lockdown.I like a pint,but think the vaccines are a cocktail of time untested chemicals I choose not to unleash into my body.Given that no significant reduction in spreadability with a vaccine has been established,I cannot see why I should be discriminated against. Removed
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Pubs. A complete waste of time and money. You're better off staying away from them. The reasons keep mounting up.
What an hideouts thing to say your a moron people who work & no fault of there own there only out let is o talk to people in a Club or pub these people pay there tax & maybe a bit lonely yes I'm one of them i don't get drunk i lost my wife & lost a daughter in a car crash i'm on my own & enjoy a night out to talk to people like i said your a moron Im 61 by the way you must still be at school Removed
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I would hope the same would apply too the house of commons bar which incidently is still open, despite being told that it is not.
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Just put chips on driving licences and update the chip each time you get vaccinated.

In any case, the only people opposed to such are those harbourers of death that are not intending on being vaccinated.

If they don't want vaccinating, fine; but why should the rest of us allow them to share our breathing space and cause mayhem and havoc in our lives post the Covid vaccination programme?
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This has got to be a joke, first the younger generation are forced to isolate to protect others, then we're told we can't go on holiday without a vaccination, we won't get the vaccine any time soon and now potentially not allowed in certain places without something that's not being offered to us!?
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This ??
25/03/2021 05:23:36 2 1
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Shock and horror.
A private business can implement restrictions on entry if they wish. And the BBC turns it into “vaccination passports” ??

Pubs will not ask for proof of vaccination ????
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Someone’s not been replied to on Tinder.
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100s of thousands queuing at food banks, peaceful protesting outlawed, having to show your “papers”, people being tracked. Did China invade without telling anybody?
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This is a Tory suggestion I actually welcome. Anti-vaxxers should kept under house arrest until they've woken to the modern world, and played catch-up. I don't want to sit in a pub full of tinfoil-hat loons, all thinking they're so smart and clever for putting everyone else at risk.
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And we ride the third wave and the fourth , fifth (? ) lockdown . Be sensible dear!
If you didn’t notice, several US states dropped their restrictions 3 wks ago. Bad move screamed the hysterical (and liar Fauci), it has made no difference, cases have continued to fall. We’ve never tested people en masse before like we are, how do we know in a normal winter flu season we don’t have the same amount of a virus around? If this were a real pandemic, we wouldn’t need telling every day Removed
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I suspect "show us your papers" businesses will quickly end up out of business. The idea cash strapped businesses will turn away customers after the year they've had if fanciful.
Show your papers now the uk is becoming like nazi Germany or a police state we need to all get together & stop this now. Removed
Ha ha ha, BBC didn't like me saying to a remainer "get over it loser" what a woke bunch this (about to be de-funded) BBC is ! Removed
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Can't stand the bbc, but you really should drop that phrase...
25/03/2021 06:53:18 0 1
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Such a clever boy!
Wow show me your papers feels like we are in ww2 I can't believe the government are planning this its a stupid idea were is our freedom & our human rights the uk is becoming like nazi Germany we need to all get together & stop this now. Removed
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Covid passports are a great idea. Far too many silly Anti Vax Covid deniers in the UK. The likes of Steve Baker have always been anti something. Now that Brexit is finished looks like he's now anti public health.
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NOW AND THEN I'm tempted to scan USA news sites and find they are open to articles, expert opinions, and public posts that are diverse and sometimes highly critical of vaccines, Government and Big Pharma.

Sadly, UK has not enshrined this level of FREEDOM OF SPEECH so the BBC does not allow them. I accept vaccines are beneficial but feel wide ranging views are crucial to giving 'informed consent'.
Total codswallop. From our Chinese friend here. Tell take signs? Odd use of capitals (no grammatical purpose). Misunderstanding conflation of internet generally and BBC (we all know an individual Western organisation cannot control entire WWW - whereas a political organisation CCP can and does within China).

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Do you really think pubs can afford to loose that much money???
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I hope my local Wetherspoons will show the Festival of Brexit on live TV.
I'm looking forward to that.
It'll be like 'It's a Royal Knockout' from 1987 when members of the royal family and celebrities like Eddy Grant, Toyah Wilcox and Pamela Stephenson etc dressed up as giant vegetables and threw fake hams at each other.
It'll be such a great opportunity to show the world England at its best.
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My business certainly won’t be asking to see any proof.
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Just ban alcohol! Problem solved!
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Do not bribe us into having this vaccine if we are uncomfortable about it. Governments who impose such restrictions are always sorry come election time......Boris, you're a loon, you had a stonking majority and your throwing it all away with you totalitarian state ideas. Removed
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Unworkable as many working in a restaurant or pub will NOT have been vaccinated - or indeed be old enough to qualify for an offer of one. Not just bar staff, but waiters, waitresses (who are often students working at weekends) and any number of people in the kitchens on the “black economy”.
Total unworkable nightmare!
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The vaccine rollout in my area is a joke: I paid £140 for my vaccine and when I got there they had failed to put my name on the list! You couldn't make it up!
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Would you need to show it at a knocking shop when your rock up for a knee trembler?
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My business certainly won’t be asking to see any proof.
Yes it will. Your staff will use it to discriminate against minorities. They already make blacks sit out of sight because an institutionally racist ONS has convinced the world of the lie that BAME suffer the worst. Removed
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Yes and are a perfect breeding ground for new strains. Clearly there are people out there who see maintaing their lifestyles as more important than the health of others. The truly generous.
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Peaceful protests - they couldn't even hold a vigil without getting violent and pre-prepared banners are not items you take to vigil. Shouting F### the police - disgraceful.
You don't want a vaccine - fine but stay out of my way you selfish person, stayout of public places and pubs so you cant spread it
Vaccine ID for pub why not we already have age ID
What are the rest trying to hide
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Top post! These anti-vaccine minorities need to be told the majority rules - not the few selfish idiots who for some obscure reason will not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated!
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“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” - Aldous Huxley
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Once inside the pub, every customer then should insist seeing every members of staff certificate before asking for their drink. Fight stupid with stupid and see how long it lasts.
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So you dont already carry a driving license, a passport, take vaccinations to go to some holiday locations?

You dont prove your age to enter some establishments, or buy some products?

Or allow your phone to track your every move, your every contact?

Yet if a business wants to ensure you dont harm their other customers because of your fear or laziness - you scream freedom?
I rather think it's the fear of a small percentage of the population that has stolen a year (so far - and looking like at least 18 months) from seventy million perfectly healthy people.

Remember?

We were supposed to be b ing locked up to 'save granny'.

Well granny has had her jab.

Why are we still locked up to 'save' bedwetting fifty year olds who have next to no chance of dying?
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You are challenged to be over 18 before being served alcohol in a licensed premises, proof of id etc so what is the problem with a proof of covid test, get real you bunch of wokes. No doubt the human rights unwashed unemployed mob will riot over this but wont riot about getting all their benefits paid because its too easy not to work this country is doomed ( as said by private Fraser) Removed
25/03/2021 07:55:35 1 1
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How long does a vaccine passport last
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Therfore I will be demanding that anybody serving me food or drink show me proof of when they last went to the toilet and more importantly that they washed there hands. I may also insist to see full medical records just to make sure there is no contagious underlying health condition. The "conspiracy theorists" (hate that term) are winning.
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I think we should go further and make it law that anyone who has not been vaccinated should wear some sort of distinct b/w striped clothing, or maybe some sort of very visible insignia on their chest, to show they are unclean and a deadly, deadly danger to society.
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Er, I was being ironic. It is the thin end of a very dangerous wedge as far as I'm concerned.
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25/03/2021 07:58:10 0 2
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Let’s just wait and see what your Squad say about this shall we.
25/03/2021 07:59:56 1 1
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I'm no fan of our pm and his party but let's be civil eh?
25/03/2021 07:53:47 4 3
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If the selfish bar stewards bleating on about freedom won’t get vaccinated then they don’t deserve to join in with everyone else. It’s about reducing this damn virus as much as possible - not the ‘Well *I’m* ok so sod everyone else’ attitude. The next mutation might not be so harmless to the young. Then what? We will be letting thick people breed and vote next! Then we will be in trouble!
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I think we should go further and make it law that anyone who has not been vaccinated should wear some sort of distinct b/w striped clothing, or maybe some sort of very visible insignia on their chest, to show they are unclean and a deadly, deadly danger to society.
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25/03/2021 08:11:54 0 1
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only those that dont follow the house rules - as ever
25/03/2021 08:01:16 6 2
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It's not worth doing. Just wait a bit longer for the double doses of all the vulnerable to complete and then open it up. Make recommendations to avoid too much contact until you've had the vaccine and then go. Catching the virus and getting over it is as good/better than taking the vaccine so a vaccine pass wouldn't help with that anyway.
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A passport is not mandatory, but good luck with leaving the country without one
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The BBC moderation on this HYS is somewhat curious.

Apparently I "risk breaking UK law" by responding to a comment that implied that vaccines were ineffective and stating that.

I wonder what the law is that I risk breaking?

Out of interest ww.ihysdb.com shows all comments, including removed ones
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1. Conspiracy theorists said this was going to happen.
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3. The idea was floated.
4. 300,000 people signed a petition against it.
5. It was debated in parliament and all of the MPs argued that it's against human rights.
6. It's happening anyway.

The only option is mass civil disobedience. Pubs should refuse to enforce it, people should refuse vaccination.
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25/03/2021 08:38:15 0 1
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The majority want it , or do you not believe in democracy?
25/03/2021 08:38:59 0 1
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I totally agree with you it is against our human rights & freedom welcome to Germany 1939 ????????
Total codswallop. From our Chinese friend here. Tell take signs? Odd use of capitals (no grammatical purpose). Misunderstanding conflation of internet generally and BBC (we all know an individual Western organisation cannot control entire WWW - whereas a political organisation CCP can and does within China).

Comrade, you realise we in UK can Google all US news organisations right? You’ve failed
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1. Conspiracy theorists said this was going to happen.
2. People ridiculed it.
3. The idea was floated.
4. 300,000 people signed a petition against it.
5. It was debated in parliament and all of the MPs argued that it's against human rights.
6. It's happening anyway.

The only option is mass civil disobedience. Pubs should refuse to enforce it, people should refuse vaccination.
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Being Vaccinated doesn't stop anyone from getting the virus, it merely, (quote official papers): "reduces the chance of suffering from Covid19 when/once infected"
Why are the BBC not reporting this I wonder?
Are you being given something bogus to discuss to stop you considering real things in life?
The association everyone has with the two words vaccine and eradication is interestingly incorrect.
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25/03/2021 08:43:06 1 2
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That is just too many difficult words for them to digest...
25/03/2021 08:42:43 11 5
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New laws, fines, lockdowns, business closures, banned travel abroad, can't move anymore than several miles from your home, no family contact, masks, social distancing.

Freedom is hard fought and yet the UK are quite happy to allow tyranny.
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25/03/2021 08:41:19 2 6
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Not fair on younger people
Better they stay in pubs here than go to riddled eu countries
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25/03/2021 08:52:56 0 3
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Great Idea. Until Covid is fully under control there is the need to ensure that those who have been vaccinated can return to normal life.
Those who choose to put the lives of themselves and more importantly the lives of others, at risk should not be able to return to normal life.
Arrangements will have to be made for the few who cannot be vaccinated
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24/03/2021 21:35:54 572 94
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If the vaccine i’ve been given is so effective, as I’ve been repeatedly assured, then why should I worry about bumping into an unvaccinated person in the pub?
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24/03/2021 21:27:27 237 57
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and so the march to tyranny continues....
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24/03/2021 22:42:45 21 12
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We shouldn't even have it for travel. People shouldn't have to have the vaccine to visit family abroad.
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24/03/2021 22:14:02 13 54
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You really are grumpy!

Get over it, or die of Covid-19!
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25/03/2021 09:26:05 0 2
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Try taking your head out the covid clouds and just have a think what is being suggested.
Forcing people to get a vaccine that doesnt stop anyone catching or spreading covid ( IMPORTANT !!!!!)
To fight a virus that over 99% of people are capable of fighting off with their own immune system.
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25/03/2021 09:40:43 9 10
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The only people who should not be allowed into pubs for covid reasons are those who refuse, for no medical reason, to have the jab. Maybe then, the ridiculous anti-vax brigade would accept that having a vaccination is a good and sensible thing to do. Otherwise barring them form public life seems entirely fair to me - they are being selfish and irresponsible
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A lot of controlling people calling me deplorable today!

Good! ??

Your not taking away my freedoms

Your going down in history as a fascist

Not the woke lets throw big dramatic words around type!  ??

A real life fascist! ??

??
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25/03/2021 09:59:10 0 0
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People don't deplore you, it's envy....how invigorating it must be not to have a brain.
25/03/2021 09:47:05 5 6
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It seems perfectly sensible to me. People who have not had the jab risk catching Covid off those of us who have. Banning them from pubs protects them and, more importantly, protects the NHS. It's not about restricting their individual freedoms. It's not their "right" to cost the taxpayer an NHS hospital bed.
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25/03/2021 10:21:06 0 0
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Wrong website.....
No sign of SNP ideas on passports...yet can offer 4% to NHS.
How are they going to fund this... oh yes, an election bribe.
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25/03/2021 10:09:00 0 0
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Perhaps they’re going to fund it by not buying a load of unnecessary nukes, or giving billions of pounds to their old school friends.
You’re the one being dramatic

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I see the BBC license fee is being increased again and no review until 2027 ! and over 75 can b off as they still have to pay. It is shoved way down in the news and no HYS . Well what a surprise Removed
25/03/2021 10:15:59 0 0
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This diversion away from that and other important REAL issues
The more i look at Laura Kuensberg and actually see her on TV the more i think of an SNP Scottish Egg..!! She does't only talk out of the 'Side of her Mouth'! I'm sure i saw a 'wokey' girl like her working in Mcdonalds the other day! She also had a worthless degree in 'Misinformation and scaremongering'!! Removed
25/03/2021 10:12:23 1 0
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Full house!!!

I called it first (in our beloved game of Bigotry Bingo).

HYS offers such a plentiful supply for the game.
If someone was to barricade the doors to parliament and burn it down with all MPs inside. I would start break dancing in the street, skipping and singing. They would not be a terrorist but a freedom fighter. All that it takes for evil to succeed is good men to do nothing, and it appears a good dose of state sponsored brainwashing. Removed
25/03/2021 10:10:12 1 0
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A hard line, given that only one party is ruining this country. The opposition, which includes many in his own party, are trying to give some balance to the lunacy in Cabinet.

How about giving them a 10-minute warning to evacuate?
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If someone was to barricade the doors to parliament and burn it down with all MPs inside. I would start break dancing in the street, skipping and singing. They would not be a terrorist but a freedom fighter. All that it takes for evil to succeed is good men to do nothing, and it appears a good dose of state sponsored brainwashing. Removed
Nope you'd be condoning/complicit to murder. What a nice fellow you must be. Removed
If you have already had Covid with no/modest symptoms, are young & healthy, or have no underlying health conditions, then there is no reason to have a 'vaccine?' who's long term effects are unknown and side effects do present a real risk. Why take something that could kill you when you don't really need it? As for Passports of any kind in this regard, sheer madness. Masks 4 Years? Our Freedom! Removed
25/03/2021 10:26:35 0 0
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Why can this guy post the truth but I cant?
25/03/2021 10:02:45 3 4
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This is the worst of both worlds. There are strong arguments for and justified concerns against. Both need to be debated and the cases for/against explained.

But that' just too much like hard work for our lazy PM.

So it's just a case of "whatever ...".
Yet another numpty who has fallen for the narrative without bothering to understand the PM s words or how they came about, frogs legs is short supply in Britain off you go! Removed
Those bedwetting snowflakes worried about being next to a non vaxed person are irrelevant anyway as they'll all still be hiding under their duvets in terror as they have been for the last year. Removed
25/03/2021 10:27:59 0 0
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Nice CCHQ stereotyping! Rather out of date though!??
25/03/2021 10:28:28 0 0
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Or holding their breath and facing away as they pass you in the street.
25/03/2021 10:35:20 0 0
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What on earth is your point? All you are doing is constructing a straw man and then attacking him. Let me ask you, if you had to choose a crowded room to walk through, on full of people who had been vaccinated and the other where no one had been vaccinated which would you choose?
25/03/2021 10:11:12 3 3
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To be honest to understand anything Boris says, you need a Galactic Translator.....
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Going for a pint:
"Papers?"
"Sign in."
"Is your Bluetooth switched on for track and trace?"
"Pint of the usual Bob?"

Flying into the country:
"Passport?"
"Welcome to the UK."
Getting a dinghy into the country:

"Welcome to The UK"
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25/03/2021 10:08:28 1 3
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Wake up Boris we are not a communist state yet
25/03/2021 10:10:47 0 2
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80 seat majority....Boris will storm next GE.
25/03/2021 10:27:07 0 3
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A law abiding citizen must show a bit of paper to say they've been vaccinated to get into a pub but violent criminals with a history of alcohol fueled crime can wander straight in if they've had the jab!! Who would you rather bump into at the bar?
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25/03/2021 10:26:58 3 3
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ABSOLUTELY the right approach. I for one won't be entering any building voluntarily unless I know that a jab and a mask is compulsory. I will quite happily order everything via the internet until conspiracy theorists and nay-sayers are effectively quarantined at home until they take responsibility for the lives of others they put in jeopardy.
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25/03/2021 10:26:49 1 2
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Not only should pubs have covid passports but they should be made to fly really big union flags, one outside by the entrance, one by the toilet doors and if they have a beer garden then one there too.
That’ll show the EU we are a serious country and not to be messed around with.
I know what I voted for etc...
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25/03/2021 10:19:39 0 3
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great idea i love Boris, he's so clever and gawjus
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25/03/2021 10:18:29 2 6
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Those who refuse a vaccine should be treated differently to those who take responsibility towards others.
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Fortunately most people in the UK aren't like the illiterate morons on here. If everyone was like you we would be like France that has low uptake and suffer lockdown after lockdown until people started taking it up. This virus isn't going away those saying it's my freedom not to take it, you've only been afforded that freedom by the millions who have. Removed
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You go in a pub. If you've had the vaccine, then you're about 90% protected. If you haven't then you're not protected but that's your risk. So if you're that worried about catching the ol' Kung-Flu, then either get vaccinated or don't go in but let the rest of us get back to living our lives with some semblance of freedom! Removed
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25/03/2021 11:05:15 0 0
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90 % of what ?

This is nonsense.
25/03/2021 11:17:31 0 0
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Having to carry biometric ID and provide my private health information in order to purchase goods and services is not my idea of freedom.
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25/03/2021 11:18:01 0 0
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Yes. Landlords have always been allowed to have bouncers that decid who is allowed on premises and who isn't.
25/03/2021 10:46:48 5 2
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I thought overseas travelling was banned? If so, how did we all end up in North Korea?
25/03/2021 10:49:42 3 1
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Ill just good luck and move to a free country

There will be plenty! ??

My skills are excepted anywhere

Its a free market ??
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25/03/2021 10:35:12 0 1
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As he said - this might / could / perhaps will be a local pub management decision or that of the brewery - it is not a Government policy. Get a grip.
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25/03/2021 11:05:14 2 4
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Old people–time to put something back NOW! Lockdowns have been about protecting us old as we are much more likely to die or block hospitals. A huge number of us have sat this out on good boomer pensions, no fear of losing our homes, income, career plans etc. The younger have lifted us out of this mess (NHS, key workers, scientists etc). Vax passports is a kick in the teeth to them. Show respect
25/03/2021 11:10:16 1 3
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vaccination only reduces transmission by 30% - Glasgow research. So pointless.
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Have any of the hard right on here tried to blame Corbyn for this yet, who is not in charge and never will be? If not perhaps leave voters are at fault for this? Removed
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25/03/2021 11:23:12 2 7
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i think its called discrimination , solicitors get ready for a killing
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Well done BBC for letting this HYS run.

I intend to buy loads of pints when I'm next in the pub and put them on a long pole and dangle them out of the window in front of queueing millennials trying to get in with their fake jab id.

It's a good thing too as these morons flout the law, don't want to get jabbed, whine and complain all day and it's all me me me me me me then stampy foot time.
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25/03/2021 11:46:30 3 2
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Is all about freedom; anyone should be free to set conditions as to who can or can't enter their premises. If people want to exercise the freedom not to get vaccinated they are free not to go to establishments that have feely decided to require one. True freedom!
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Here's an interesting stat for old farts who enjoy their sport. Which I assume is the majority of pub goers, who also enjoy a good burger.

There will be people old enough to buy a pint this year who weren't alive when England won the rugby world cup

Enjoy ????
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25/03/2021 12:29:05 0 0
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Pub - Yes
Burger - Yes
Sport - No thanks
25/03/2021 11:52:14 1 5
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As we know landlords are capitalists and greedy ( see yesterday) . And so they’ll dodge this bullet and let a free for all exist as the tills tap out the the theme to Wave Three!
It's been nice (mostly) on these HYS boards.

Now that the BBC has chosen to moderate comments which don't match the house rules there's no point trying to make any coherent or valid statements.

I'm no longer interested in trying to debate reasonably under these circumstances.

Watch this one disappear as well!
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The HYS forum seems as good a place as any to start a revolution to overthrow the Government.
?? = Out
?? = In
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25/03/2021 12:51:38 1 0
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Do you like teargas?
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