Sir Keir Starmer accuses Boris Johnson of 'breaking promise' on Army troop numbers
24/03/2021 | news | politics | 734
Boris Johnson says the government is increasing spending on defence "by the biggest amount since the Cold War".
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24/03/2021 14:52:46 10 5
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Johnson could have brown spots all around his mouth and would still claim he didn't eat the chocolates...
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24/03/2021 15:28:15 3 0
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But he could be right, given what he usually talks.
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24/03/2021 16:29:33 0 0
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The brown spots are not from what he's eaten but from what he utters.
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24/03/2021 14:53:01 107 30
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Did you hear Boris trying to stumble his way through these questions on PMQs? it was comical how he was trying to convince everyone that a reduction in numbers wasn't a cut in any kind to the forces.

pathetic really
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24/03/2021 16:45:31 21 75
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Your comment is pathetic really
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25/03/2021 06:50:31 3 10
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Actually I did and I thought he made some excellent points. Starmer on the other hand still acts like he is in a court of law, weak questions, grey persona and utterly pointless
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25/03/2021 09:13:18 4 8
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Better him than Keir Slimer, who makes a rock look interesting.
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25/03/2021 11:29:30 0 1
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So you normally take a strong interest in defence?
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25/03/2021 14:11:56 0 0
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He is.
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24/03/2021 14:55:19 63 6
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the Tories always cut the armed forces they tried to replace full pay soldiers with territorials promoted to front line duty in 2015.. not only that they scrapped the ark royal and its harrier squadrons
They are now used for spare parts for US Harriers, which America still consider viable fighting planes.
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24/03/2021 14:59:27 13 6
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Apparently the US Marines are keeping their Harriers as a bargaining tool to get more F35s eventually. An intermediate plane would eat into their F35 budget.
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25/03/2021 06:52:46 0 1
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Ther US's Harriers are supersonic, something we dont have...wakey wakey
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24/03/2021 14:55:57 7 4
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I have lost all faith in this Conservative party, sadly there is no real alternative.
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24/03/2021 14:58:06 6 4
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Not yet hopefully Kier starmer can get rid of the 2019 conbynite manifesto that's a ball and chain
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24/03/2021 17:29:34 0 0
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How right you are. There is no better alternative. Absolute lack of vision among our politicians aside from conniving on how to get in power. If there was a meaningful "none of the above" option on the ballot paper, it would receive a landslide.
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24/03/2021 14:56:31 3 3
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fewer people needed to fly drones and take out many enemies with a higher kill ratio
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24/03/2021 14:58:52 2 1
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Good luck occupying Basra or Helmand province with drones
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24/03/2021 14:56:40 4 2
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The articles open to HYS have been quite selective it seems..
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24/03/2021 15:43:25 3 0
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Since inception - nothing on corruption.
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24/03/2021 14:57:14 5 4
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If this benighted country and its allies spent as much money on seeking world peace as they do on armies, failed wars and appalling weaponry - we would have peace.
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24/03/2021 14:57:15 8 9
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If it was up to Labour we wouldn't have any armed forces 'cept Dads Army....
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24/03/2021 15:03:23 5 1
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Some years ago, the Tories claimed voting for the SNP would mean RAF base closures. The first thing the new Tory govt did was try to close RAF bases. The SNP and Labour stopped it from happening. They still managed to close many coastguard stations, though. You still trust them?
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24/03/2021 16:04:49 0 0
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If it was up to Labour we wouldn't have any armed forces 'cept Dads Army, probably not true but now we are not going to have have army because of the clown party.
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24/03/2021 14:57:31 48 4
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This year of all years should have highlighted how useful actual, real, soldiers are. They've manned testing centres, moved vaccines, helped out in hospitals, delivered food parcels to those shielding etc. You can't do that with a trident warhead or a drone. Infantry soldiers are paid less even than nurses so there's no serious cost saving either. Its utter madness.
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24/03/2021 17:05:21 16 2
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Another thank you to the people that have helped the country the most (my opinion) in the pandemic.
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25/03/2021 18:44:38 0 0
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agree there totally,
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jon
24/03/2021 14:57:58 6 7
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Why is Starmer so fixated by troop numbers when he has so often voted against military action? His voting record is actually hypocritical as it was him who voted against any investigation of Labour’s disastrous Iraq adventure. Boris plans technological advantage over pure numbers.
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24/03/2021 15:01:13 4 1
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"Blessed are the peacemakers" says the very religious Jacob Rees Mogg....who has consistently voted for military action.
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24/03/2021 15:01:27 3 0
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You've just made this up. The votes on the Iraq inquiry predate Starmer's entry into parliament by nearly a decade.
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24/03/2021 15:02:00 4 0
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That'll be the invasion of Iraq the Tory party also voted for? TWO tory MPs voted against Iraq out of 148. 84 Labour MPs voted against it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Parliamentary_approval_for_the_invasion_of_Iraq
Starmer wasn't an MP then.
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24/03/2021 15:03:16 2 1
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Why are you conflating deceit over planned troop reductions & votes on how they’re used?

And the extra funding is there to fill the funding void for existing legacy programmes; not any real “technological advantage” at any scale. Otherwise why are we building massive ships that become a vulnerability only to be protected from peer adversaries?

Don’t believe the sound bites...??
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24/03/2021 16:01:40 0 0
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Boris plans technological advantage like the blither tank, and the flying pigs of Bozo.
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24/03/2021 14:55:57 7 4
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I have lost all faith in this Conservative party, sadly there is no real alternative.
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24/03/2021 14:58:06 6 4
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Not yet hopefully Kier starmer can get rid of the 2019 conbynite manifesto that's a ball and chain
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24/03/2021 15:13:28 0 2
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I was hopeful for Kier but as opposition leader he's a damp squib and very disappointing. If only David Miliband's brother hadn't done a deal with the devil and stitched him up.
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24/03/2021 15:56:15 1 0
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Let's pretend no one can see the deflection.
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24/03/2021 14:58:40 3 3
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Anyone remember the US Army recruitment campaign of a few years back? 'Army of One' it was called. As in 'Everyone is an individual - not a faceless cog in a machine'.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/10/us/ads-now-seek-recruits-for-an-army-of-one.html

Bozo has recalled this and is taking it literally. Mind you, we will have one *very* well equipped soldier, and they'll be ever so busy...
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24/03/2021 14:58:44 4 3
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Same old. The UK is trying to be a great power which means a nuclear deterrent, air craft carriers, nuclear subs, amphibious assault ships (all with escorts), an armoured division, an air assault brigade, an amphibious brigade, attack helicopters, tanks, advanced fast jets, transport helicopters, transport planes & now space & cyber.

All for 2.2% of GDP of a shrinking economy. It won't work.
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24/03/2021 15:08:29 0 0
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But the situation is in regard to a reduction in most of the items on your list. What is it your complaint?
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24/03/2021 15:09:29 0 0
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It's aircraft-less carriers that we have.
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24/03/2021 15:12:07 0 0
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If you look at what we can actually deploy its less conventional forces than our European neighbours. "Brigades" are small formations. 2000 men could be a "brigade". Far too much money goes on "consultations".
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24/03/2021 14:56:31 3 3
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fewer people needed to fly drones and take out many enemies with a higher kill ratio
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24/03/2021 14:58:52 2 1
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Good luck occupying Basra or Helmand province with drones
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24/03/2021 15:12:48 3 0
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no need to occupy just kill the enemy from a distance
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24/03/2021 15:51:50 0 0
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There are drones flying over there all the time which can take out vehicles, all flown from a bunker in the middle of America.
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24/03/2021 14:59:03 21 6
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Making it more difficult to deliver our democracy bullets and freedoms bombs to the sandier parts of the world. Whilst we're in trade talks with the Chinese who are actually a threat to our way of life. I guess ISIS don't own much of London though.
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24/03/2021 19:16:34 1 6
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If you are worried about China spend money on biological weapons defense.
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24/03/2021 14:55:19 63 6
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the Tories always cut the armed forces they tried to replace full pay soldiers with territorials promoted to front line duty in 2015.. not only that they scrapped the ark royal and its harrier squadrons
They are now used for spare parts for US Harriers, which America still consider viable fighting planes.
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24/03/2021 14:59:27 13 6
bbc
Apparently the US Marines are keeping their Harriers as a bargaining tool to get more F35s eventually. An intermediate plane would eat into their F35 budget.
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24/03/2021 19:24:32 1 0
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you really need to read what the (senior armed forces) yanks think about the f35 a total useless plane hence why they sold it to us and why tories brought it
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24/03/2021 14:59:36 3 1
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It is quite frankly appalling to continue cutting troop numbers during a period of record youth unemployment and dueing a period of significant global instability even if it was a not directly breaking one of Boris's key election manifesto promises. As we chart our new way in the world post Brexit (regardless of your views) we confidence in our conventional forces, not just cyber warriors.
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24/03/2021 15:02:15 8 2
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It is most clearly breaking an election manifesto.
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24/03/2021 14:59:57 54 23
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More nukes and less soldiers

Easily the worst government of my lifetime

I’d take May or Cameron back In a heartbeat

The back benches need to start looking font the next leader
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24/03/2021 16:52:10 26 7
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I never thought I'd look back kindly on Cameron. But then, I definitely never thought I'd look back kindly on May, but here we are...
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24/03/2021 16:57:56 2 8
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No - not the worst Government - you must be young - try Mr James Callaghan 74-79.
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Pip
25/03/2021 09:35:09 0 0
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From what I can see, careful what you wish for...........?
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25/03/2021 11:44:32 0 2
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They are not going to replace someone who won an 80 seat majority, who is also defeating the opposition leader.
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25/03/2021 14:16:59 0 0
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And the next party.
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24/03/2021 15:01:00 3 5
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If the commentators without jobs want to bolster the arm forces then why don't the apply, oh sorry they would fail any physical or intelligence test.
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24/03/2021 15:04:50 9 0
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I did 4 years in the Queens Own Yeomanry with attachments to the Light Dragoons. It paid for me to do a Genetics Degree.

I'm amazed that you think opposing troop cuts is a sign of low intelligence.

BTW when I served we had Scimitar light tanks with 30mm cannon. Now we have those stupid Jackal 4x4 things with no roof & a machine gun. Great for Afghanistan but in Europe it rains.
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24/03/2021 15:08:27 1 0
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Anyone unable to spell armed would certainly be excluded.
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jon
24/03/2021 14:57:58 6 7
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Why is Starmer so fixated by troop numbers when he has so often voted against military action? His voting record is actually hypocritical as it was him who voted against any investigation of Labour’s disastrous Iraq adventure. Boris plans technological advantage over pure numbers.
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24/03/2021 15:01:13 4 1
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"Blessed are the peacemakers" says the very religious Jacob Rees Mogg....who has consistently voted for military action.
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jon
24/03/2021 14:57:58 6 7
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Why is Starmer so fixated by troop numbers when he has so often voted against military action? His voting record is actually hypocritical as it was him who voted against any investigation of Labour’s disastrous Iraq adventure. Boris plans technological advantage over pure numbers.
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24/03/2021 15:01:27 3 0
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You've just made this up. The votes on the Iraq inquiry predate Starmer's entry into parliament by nearly a decade.
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24/03/2021 14:58:16 50 11
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BJ breaking promises ?

Surely not.
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25/03/2021 09:38:25 15 1
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He is keeping his "f*** business" promise. Unfortunately it's the only one he ever has.
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jon
24/03/2021 14:57:58 6 7
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Why is Starmer so fixated by troop numbers when he has so often voted against military action? His voting record is actually hypocritical as it was him who voted against any investigation of Labour’s disastrous Iraq adventure. Boris plans technological advantage over pure numbers.
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24/03/2021 15:02:00 4 0
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That'll be the invasion of Iraq the Tory party also voted for? TWO tory MPs voted against Iraq out of 148. 84 Labour MPs voted against it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Parliamentary_approval_for_the_invasion_of_Iraq
Starmer wasn't an MP then.
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jon
24/03/2021 15:12:31 2 0
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Yes the Tories did support the invasion after Blair misled parliament.
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24/03/2021 15:02:05 1 3
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Not much point having a defence service if you are getting invaded on a daily basis and doing nothing about it
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24/03/2021 15:04:29 6 2
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You don't need aircraft carriers and nukes to stop unarmed people in a dinghy.
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24/03/2021 14:59:36 3 1
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It is quite frankly appalling to continue cutting troop numbers during a period of record youth unemployment and dueing a period of significant global instability even if it was a not directly breaking one of Boris's key election manifesto promises. As we chart our new way in the world post Brexit (regardless of your views) we confidence in our conventional forces, not just cyber warriors.
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24/03/2021 15:02:15 8 2
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It is most clearly breaking an election manifesto.
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24/03/2021 15:46:17 0 0
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Nope......... "But that promise wasn't in the 2019 Conservative manifesto"
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24/03/2021 15:02:22 3 9
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I'm not a fan of Boris, but expenditure promises made pre-Covid, are far less likely to be kept. I can't help noticing that, once again, Mr Starmer hasn't mentioned what his own intentions would be.
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24/03/2021 15:01:07 1 9
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Just how is it that the Labour party have attracted such weak leaders for so long, beeb?

What is it about the culture of their party that causes this?

They haven't had a serious player since Hugh Gaitskell in 1955. Possibly John Smith at a push.
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24/03/2021 15:30:45 1 0
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Surely being a "weak or strong" leader isn't about how you lead your country into a war. It's about having a leader sensible enough NOT to get into a war that doesn't involve us. So that leaves Harold Wilson, who refused to get involved in Vietnam despite intense pressure from the US. Since then they've been queuing up to have a go at anyone!
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jon
24/03/2021 14:57:58 6 7
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Why is Starmer so fixated by troop numbers when he has so often voted against military action? His voting record is actually hypocritical as it was him who voted against any investigation of Labour’s disastrous Iraq adventure. Boris plans technological advantage over pure numbers.
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24/03/2021 15:03:16 2 1
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Why are you conflating deceit over planned troop reductions & votes on how they’re used?

And the extra funding is there to fill the funding void for existing legacy programmes; not any real “technological advantage” at any scale. Otherwise why are we building massive ships that become a vulnerability only to be protected from peer adversaries?

Don’t believe the sound bites...??
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24/03/2021 14:57:15 8 9
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If it was up to Labour we wouldn't have any armed forces 'cept Dads Army....
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24/03/2021 15:03:23 5 1
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Some years ago, the Tories claimed voting for the SNP would mean RAF base closures. The first thing the new Tory govt did was try to close RAF bases. The SNP and Labour stopped it from happening. They still managed to close many coastguard stations, though. You still trust them?
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24/03/2021 15:03:32 104 18
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"Blessed are the peacemakers" says the religious Jacob Rees-Mogg, who has consistently voted for military action.
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24/03/2021 15:06:41 61 15
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But "God" is always on his side. He has a direct line of communication to his version of the big, bearded, imaginary, benevolent dude in the sky.
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24/03/2021 15:20:02 18 2
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Religious fanatics have been responsible for the majority of wars.
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24/03/2021 17:03:07 5 0
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He must have some off-shore investments" in "peace making".
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24/03/2021 18:52:02 2 1
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JRM one of the Truly Blessed....
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25/03/2021 10:40:11 0 0
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What he said was "Blessed are the cheesemakers"
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25/03/2021 11:27:49 0 1
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The main reason for your comment is not the issue war and peace, but that you hate Rees-Mogg.
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24/03/2021 15:03:41 56 15
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Boris' promise retention period is 11 milliseconds on a good day.
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24/03/2021 17:25:34 21 7
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You are being kind to the man. I suspect that retention period is not something that functions in any respect for the poor man.
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25/03/2021 11:22:37 1 0
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As long as that really!
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24/03/2021 15:03:46 5 16
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Was it not Sir Kier who campaigned heavily to have Corbyn elected as PM and we all know what he would have done to our armed forces, yet when he was appointed as labour leader his first job was to get rid of Corbyn.
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24/03/2021 15:08:20 10 3
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This country is obsessed with militarism. It has been spoon-fed a sanitised version of it for generations. Spend the money on seeking peace and cooperation with other countries and spare a thought for the populations who eternally suffer and die at the hands of these lunatics.
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24/03/2021 15:09:10 2 1
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Sir Keith is a joke, but the Labour manifestos of 2017 and 2019 pledged more investment in the armed forces and more investment in public services that would've helped get our 9k homeless vets off the streets. Moreover, our troops would've been assured they wouldn't be sent to kill and be killed on behalf of US oil companies before being abandoned to the streets with PTSD. Get off your knees.
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24/03/2021 15:29:40 1 2
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Starmer is a slightly less obvious Marxist than Corbyn, but he still is one fundamentally.
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24/03/2021 15:02:05 1 3
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Not much point having a defence service if you are getting invaded on a daily basis and doing nothing about it
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24/03/2021 15:04:29 6 2
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You don't need aircraft carriers and nukes to stop unarmed people in a dinghy.
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24/03/2021 15:11:29 1 0
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One of them armed himself when bombed the Manchester arena
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24/03/2021 15:01:00 3 5
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If the commentators without jobs want to bolster the arm forces then why don't the apply, oh sorry they would fail any physical or intelligence test.
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24/03/2021 15:04:50 9 0
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I did 4 years in the Queens Own Yeomanry with attachments to the Light Dragoons. It paid for me to do a Genetics Degree.

I'm amazed that you think opposing troop cuts is a sign of low intelligence.

BTW when I served we had Scimitar light tanks with 30mm cannon. Now we have those stupid Jackal 4x4 things with no roof & a machine gun. Great for Afghanistan but in Europe it rains.
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24/03/2021 15:05:56 0 2
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Sir Keith there, setting up Dim Jon-Son for a "u-turn" and the introduction of mandatory military service and/or land army/veg-picking duty for 16-25 year old plebs.
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24/03/2021 15:06:06 6 14
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Coming from the man whose party would have denuclearised our country? You could have a million soldiers and we'd be more vulnerable than having 70,000 soldiers with a nuclear arsenal.
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24/03/2021 15:09:51 12 3
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How have those nuclear weapons helped us in our fight against insurgency and terrorism, out of interest?

Because ISIS and Al-Qaeda couldn't give a fig for them. Back in the day it never made a difference in Norn Oireland either. They're just for show, and most of the world gets by perfectly well without them.
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24/03/2021 15:19:18 2 4
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Erm... Labour actually pledged to renew Trident under Corbyn (something that almost cost them my vote), and your grasp of logic is tenuous, at best. Of the 195 nations in the world only 9 have nuclear weapons, and rather than their nukes keeping the peace there's barely an armed conflict on earth in which they are not involved or implicated.
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24/03/2021 15:20:13 2 1
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How do you work that out? We have a no first strike policy. We'll only use our nukes if nukes are used against us. A much larger nuclear deterent didn't stop Argentina walking into the Falklands did it? Lucky we had a proper military back in the early 80s (despite John Nott) and we took them back.
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24/03/2021 15:21:48 1 0
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Maybe that is why Iran wants Nuclear weapons?
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24/03/2021 15:06:09 44 10
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Yes, but just think how useful the carrier strike group has been in contributing to the Covid vaccination programme.

And when there’s a flood in the NE again, we can always ask those extra nukes to build flood defences...??
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24/03/2021 18:21:30 16 4
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We'll just use the submarines as the flood defences, simple solutions for simple problems right!

It always gets me that no one really pays attention to the value of the armed forces OUTSIDE of warfare. They provide a valuable reserve of personnel when needed for disasters, a reserve that probably saves far more money in the long run than the actual cost of just paying the infantry their wages.
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25/03/2021 11:36:34 0 0
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If you want peace, be ready for war. Many hostile agencies and countries would love to see an unarmed UK.
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SJ
25/03/2021 18:46:14 0 0
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And use the flags to make masks.
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24/03/2021 15:03:32 104 18
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"Blessed are the peacemakers" says the religious Jacob Rees-Mogg, who has consistently voted for military action.
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24/03/2021 15:06:41 61 15
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But "God" is always on his side. He has a direct line of communication to his version of the big, bearded, imaginary, benevolent dude in the sky.
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25/03/2021 11:28:48 0 2
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Irrelevant, ludicrous, deranged comment.
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24/03/2021 15:07:31 55 7
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We barely had enough soldiers to take Basra in Iraq and no where near enough for Helmand in Afghanistan

So as long as we don’t have any proper fights which involve us being responsible for occupying a tiny part of a big country we’ll be finen
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24/03/2021 16:14:05 57 14
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Still, the Downing Street flat will look nice, eh?
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24/03/2021 16:46:40 2 15
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Old Corbyn, and what's here name, the one that cannot count, + many more in the Labour party wanted to do away with all our armed forces.
Now we have Starmer who thinks the reductions are a bad thing - leading a party that would lie down before fighting - someone should tell him!!
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24/03/2021 16:53:08 4 1
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there was never justification for being in Afghanistan in the first place - completely stupid waste of lives.
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24/03/2021 17:00:49 4 2
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thanks to those pointless wars uk has refugees now
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24/03/2021 18:59:48 0 3
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Tony and Cherie spent lots of cash refurbishing there at the time of the Basra offensive.

£70 rolls of wallpaper, Derry Irvine must have been their interior decorator.
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24/03/2021 15:03:46 5 16
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Was it not Sir Kier who campaigned heavily to have Corbyn elected as PM and we all know what he would have done to our armed forces, yet when he was appointed as labour leader his first job was to get rid of Corbyn.
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24/03/2021 15:08:20 10 3
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This country is obsessed with militarism. It has been spoon-fed a sanitised version of it for generations. Spend the money on seeking peace and cooperation with other countries and spare a thought for the populations who eternally suffer and die at the hands of these lunatics.
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24/03/2021 15:01:00 3 5
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If the commentators without jobs want to bolster the arm forces then why don't the apply, oh sorry they would fail any physical or intelligence test.
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24/03/2021 15:08:27 1 0
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Anyone unable to spell armed would certainly be excluded.
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24/03/2021 15:24:50 2 0
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Sadly thats not true. The Army spend a lot of time teaching basic literacy to new recruits.
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24/03/2021 14:58:44 4 3
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Same old. The UK is trying to be a great power which means a nuclear deterrent, air craft carriers, nuclear subs, amphibious assault ships (all with escorts), an armoured division, an air assault brigade, an amphibious brigade, attack helicopters, tanks, advanced fast jets, transport helicopters, transport planes & now space & cyber.

All for 2.2% of GDP of a shrinking economy. It won't work.
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24/03/2021 15:08:29 0 0
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But the situation is in regard to a reduction in most of the items on your list. What is it your complaint?
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24/03/2021 15:11:42 0 0
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Well you either spend more and do the things on the list properly or you accept we are not a great power and concentrate on home defence.

Make your mind up!
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24/03/2021 15:03:46 5 16
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Was it not Sir Kier who campaigned heavily to have Corbyn elected as PM and we all know what he would have done to our armed forces, yet when he was appointed as labour leader his first job was to get rid of Corbyn.
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24/03/2021 15:09:10 2 1
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Sir Keith is a joke, but the Labour manifestos of 2017 and 2019 pledged more investment in the armed forces and more investment in public services that would've helped get our 9k homeless vets off the streets. Moreover, our troops would've been assured they wouldn't be sent to kill and be killed on behalf of US oil companies before being abandoned to the streets with PTSD. Get off your knees.
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24/03/2021 15:56:49 0 0
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Thank you for taking time to respond to my comment and I can assure you I am not on my knees, you may not like my comment but it is factual, perhaps you need to get off your high horse.
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24/03/2021 14:58:44 4 3
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Same old. The UK is trying to be a great power which means a nuclear deterrent, air craft carriers, nuclear subs, amphibious assault ships (all with escorts), an armoured division, an air assault brigade, an amphibious brigade, attack helicopters, tanks, advanced fast jets, transport helicopters, transport planes & now space & cyber.

All for 2.2% of GDP of a shrinking economy. It won't work.
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24/03/2021 15:09:29 0 0
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It's aircraft-less carriers that we have.
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24/03/2021 15:15:46 0 0
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No we don't. We have 18 F35s deployed with HMS QE along with various helicopters.
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24/03/2021 15:06:06 6 14
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Coming from the man whose party would have denuclearised our country? You could have a million soldiers and we'd be more vulnerable than having 70,000 soldiers with a nuclear arsenal.
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24/03/2021 15:09:51 12 3
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How have those nuclear weapons helped us in our fight against insurgency and terrorism, out of interest?

Because ISIS and Al-Qaeda couldn't give a fig for them. Back in the day it never made a difference in Norn Oireland either. They're just for show, and most of the world gets by perfectly well without them.
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24/03/2021 15:13:10 3 3
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How has invading Iraq helped? It hasn't, it made the problem worse.

It's not about little groups like ISIS that are far from our shores and don't really give a rats about countries who aren't involved with them, it's so that superpowers like China and Russia don't try what they shouldn't, because they know we can retaliate. If you had no nukes, we'd get walked all over in an instant.
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24/03/2021 15:15:56 3 3
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Also, please, do tell when we were last invaded. And I mean actually invaded, not just dealt with a few terrorists (which by the way are a police matter on our shores not an army matter).
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24/03/2021 15:04:29 6 2
bbc
You don't need aircraft carriers and nukes to stop unarmed people in a dinghy.
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24/03/2021 15:11:29 1 0
bbc
One of them armed himself when bombed the Manchester arena
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24/03/2021 15:13:59 0 0
bbc
He didn't cross the channel illegally. He was invited in because his parents were "anti-Gadaffi".
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24/03/2021 15:08:29 0 0
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But the situation is in regard to a reduction in most of the items on your list. What is it your complaint?
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24/03/2021 15:11:42 0 0
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Well you either spend more and do the things on the list properly or you accept we are not a great power and concentrate on home defence.

Make your mind up!
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MVP
24/03/2021 15:11:50 105 33
bbc
Boris Johnson breaking a promise?

Sounds about right.

Not exactly a man of his word is he?
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24/03/2021 15:20:03 52 18
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He got Brexit done.....

/sarcasm

[The above was a joke]
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Gaz
24/03/2021 17:32:11 0 2
bbc
What MP is?
525
25/03/2021 06:51:41 1 1
bbc
Brexit? Oh sorry that is something he got done, vaccine, Oh sorry thats something else isnt it...my what a myopic mind you have.
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25/03/2021 10:35:18 1 0
bbc
Never has been never will be.
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25/03/2021 11:31:52 0 0
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I am sure you are a person who normally takes great interest in defence policy and military affairs, and not just looking for an excuse to insult Johnson.
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24/03/2021 14:58:44 4 3
bbc
Same old. The UK is trying to be a great power which means a nuclear deterrent, air craft carriers, nuclear subs, amphibious assault ships (all with escorts), an armoured division, an air assault brigade, an amphibious brigade, attack helicopters, tanks, advanced fast jets, transport helicopters, transport planes & now space & cyber.

All for 2.2% of GDP of a shrinking economy. It won't work.
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24/03/2021 15:12:07 0 0
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If you look at what we can actually deploy its less conventional forces than our European neighbours. "Brigades" are small formations. 2000 men could be a "brigade". Far too much money goes on "consultations".
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24/03/2021 15:02:00 4 0
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That'll be the invasion of Iraq the Tory party also voted for? TWO tory MPs voted against Iraq out of 148. 84 Labour MPs voted against it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Parliamentary_approval_for_the_invasion_of_Iraq
Starmer wasn't an MP then.
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jon
24/03/2021 15:12:31 2 0
bbc
Yes the Tories did support the invasion after Blair misled parliament.
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24/03/2021 15:17:50 0 0
bbc
Did you believe Blair? Sorry anyone else who did isn't fit to sit in Parliament. WMD ready to target the UK in 45 mins??? Yeah right. Blair wanted to cosy up to Bush and the Tories were all up for that too.

To add to it Cameron then tried getting us involved in Syria against Assad. That would have put us on the same side as ISIS!!!!! How stupid could he be??
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24/03/2021 14:58:52 2 1
bbc
Good luck occupying Basra or Helmand province with drones
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24/03/2021 15:12:48 3 0
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no need to occupy just kill the enemy from a distance
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24/03/2021 15:09:51 12 3
bbc
How have those nuclear weapons helped us in our fight against insurgency and terrorism, out of interest?

Because ISIS and Al-Qaeda couldn't give a fig for them. Back in the day it never made a difference in Norn Oireland either. They're just for show, and most of the world gets by perfectly well without them.
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24/03/2021 15:13:10 3 3
bbc
How has invading Iraq helped? It hasn't, it made the problem worse.

It's not about little groups like ISIS that are far from our shores and don't really give a rats about countries who aren't involved with them, it's so that superpowers like China and Russia don't try what they shouldn't, because they know we can retaliate. If you had no nukes, we'd get walked all over in an instant.
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24/03/2021 14:58:06 6 4
bbc
Not yet hopefully Kier starmer can get rid of the 2019 conbynite manifesto that's a ball and chain
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24/03/2021 15:13:28 0 2
bbc
I was hopeful for Kier but as opposition leader he's a damp squib and very disappointing. If only David Miliband's brother hadn't done a deal with the devil and stitched him up.
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24/03/2021 15:58:24 2 0
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Blither, blither said Bozo
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24/03/2021 15:11:29 1 0
bbc
One of them armed himself when bombed the Manchester arena
54
24/03/2021 15:13:59 0 0
bbc
He didn't cross the channel illegally. He was invited in because his parents were "anti-Gadaffi".
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24/03/2021 15:17:52 0 0
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He must have crossed the channel at some point no other way of getting here or did you not know Britain is a island
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24/03/2021 15:09:29 0 0
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It's aircraft-less carriers that we have.
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24/03/2021 15:15:46 0 0
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No we don't. We have 18 F35s deployed with HMS QE along with various helicopters.
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24/03/2021 15:09:51 12 3
bbc
How have those nuclear weapons helped us in our fight against insurgency and terrorism, out of interest?

Because ISIS and Al-Qaeda couldn't give a fig for them. Back in the day it never made a difference in Norn Oireland either. They're just for show, and most of the world gets by perfectly well without them.
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24/03/2021 15:15:56 3 3
bbc
Also, please, do tell when we were last invaded. And I mean actually invaded, not just dealt with a few terrorists (which by the way are a police matter on our shores not an army matter).
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24/03/2021 15:23:08 0 1
bbc
Sounds like you are from the 'We have a plan, the plan worked. Probably didn't need a plan' group.
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24/03/2021 17:42:35 0 0
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I thought every Briton knew that - it's one of the most famous dates in British history
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24/03/2021 15:15:57 9 6
bbc
This all smells once again of Dominic Cummings the techno believer/obsessive. Who thinks that Twitter will turn back Russian armour? Comparing cyber attack with physical attack is negligent nonsense. A credible military needs both boots and bots.
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24/03/2021 15:17:37 9 8
bbc
Dominic Cummings quit last year. Keep up.
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24/03/2021 15:20:43 1 2
bbc
Have you heard one about the dog with no nose ?
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24/03/2021 15:29:32 0 1
bbc
TBH 200 30 year old Challengers aren't going to turn Russian armour back either.

If you believe the stories in the media the Russians are messing with the GPS for RAF transports flying in and out of Cyprus. That could quite easily cause 100s of deaths. Likewise taking down the UK power grid for 48 hours would cause a phenomenal amount of deaths (start with hospitals blacked out)
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24/03/2021 15:15:57 9 6
bbc
This all smells once again of Dominic Cummings the techno believer/obsessive. Who thinks that Twitter will turn back Russian armour? Comparing cyber attack with physical attack is negligent nonsense. A credible military needs both boots and bots.
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24/03/2021 15:17:37 9 8
bbc
Dominic Cummings quit last year. Keep up.
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24/03/2021 15:22:04 4 1
bbc
The work behind this plan was started many months ago, unless you think Johnson et al really are idiotic enough make policy over this morning’s breakfast.
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24/03/2021 15:17:43 136 39
bbc
In ten years of the flag waving Tories army cut from 104,000 to 72,500
AND people still believe a word they say?
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24/03/2021 16:12:54 92 22
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Easier when you've got 90% of the press in your corner, towing the party line. Literally.
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24/03/2021 16:35:16 30 4
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and dropped the Police numbers nationally by 20K, a figure they're hurriedly trying to restore...

Party of Law & Order, anyone?
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24/03/2021 16:47:09 16 5
bbc
and to add a bit of fiscal context: 2019 Defence budget for the UK = £35Bn - funds committed to Test & Trace in the last 12 months = £37Bn (on an app and supportive infrastructure that remains largely ineffective in the broad scheme of things)
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24/03/2021 16:45:00 7 21
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Read carefully - the overall number is NOT being cut.
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24/03/2021 17:03:45 0 9
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Needs to go much lower!
505
24/03/2021 23:13:07 3 11
bbc
labour wanted to get rid of them all
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25/03/2021 07:52:05 2 0
bbc
Cutting UK armed forces at a time when should increase, we are entering a period of unease China Taiwan war on the horizon, and we should understand if war did breakout with the USA intervening, then we should expect other countries to make a move another land grab by Russia for instance, I don't know who decides what number of troops we need but I think they need to reassess before its too late
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25/03/2021 11:26:07 0 2
bbc
We should not be cutting troop numbers, but I have a strange feeling that you are someone with no interest in defence but who is losing for any excuse to slate the Conservatives.
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25/03/2021 14:08:21 0 0
bbc
No, no-one believes them, at least if they have any intelligence.
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jon
24/03/2021 15:12:31 2 0
bbc
Yes the Tories did support the invasion after Blair misled parliament.
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24/03/2021 15:17:50 0 0
bbc
Did you believe Blair? Sorry anyone else who did isn't fit to sit in Parliament. WMD ready to target the UK in 45 mins??? Yeah right. Blair wanted to cosy up to Bush and the Tories were all up for that too.

To add to it Cameron then tried getting us involved in Syria against Assad. That would have put us on the same side as ISIS!!!!! How stupid could he be??
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24/03/2021 15:13:59 0 0
bbc
He didn't cross the channel illegally. He was invited in because his parents were "anti-Gadaffi".
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24/03/2021 15:17:52 0 0
bbc
He must have crossed the channel at some point no other way of getting here or did you not know Britain is a island
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24/03/2021 15:24:06 0 0
bbc
Unfortunately for you salman abedi was actually born in Manchester. Why don't you check before making a fool of yourself.
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24/03/2021 17:35:25 0 0
bbc
Geography isn't your strong suit is it, by the channel I assume you mean the English Channel - you don't always need to cross that
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24/03/2021 15:19:13 5 5
bbc
The nature of warfare has changed drastically since the days of the trenches, these days it's all about air power, nuclear power and processing power.
You know bugger all Removed
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24/03/2021 15:35:11 3 0
bbc
Look around you wars are still waged by lots of soldiers on the ground, the nukes, aircraft, cyber are merely their 21st century weapons. If the only wars we can imagine fighting are those of annihilation ditch the man power and beef up the nukes. However unlike 19th century North America the stolen land won’t be worth much.
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24/03/2021 15:06:06 6 14
bbc
Coming from the man whose party would have denuclearised our country? You could have a million soldiers and we'd be more vulnerable than having 70,000 soldiers with a nuclear arsenal.
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24/03/2021 15:19:18 2 4
bbc
Erm... Labour actually pledged to renew Trident under Corbyn (something that almost cost them my vote), and your grasp of logic is tenuous, at best. Of the 195 nations in the world only 9 have nuclear weapons, and rather than their nukes keeping the peace there's barely an armed conflict on earth in which they are not involved or implicated.
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24/03/2021 15:03:32 104 18
bbc
"Blessed are the peacemakers" says the religious Jacob Rees-Mogg, who has consistently voted for military action.
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24/03/2021 15:20:02 18 2
bbc
Religious fanatics have been responsible for the majority of wars.
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24/03/2021 15:38:21 15 0
bbc
Aye that's Jacob Rees-Mogg for you.
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24/03/2021 16:49:51 3 5
bbc
It's a line that's often trotted out, but simply isn't true. Surveys of military history have shown that perhaps 7% of wars have had religion as the primary motivator. Greed (whether for resources or power) is the main cause.
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24/03/2021 16:58:06 10 7
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And responsible for the destruction of nations and civilizations. Just like Brexiteers are attempting to do with ours.
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24/03/2021 19:18:58 5 0
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without religion good people do good things and bad people are tories but it takes religion to make good people do bad things
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MVP
24/03/2021 15:11:50 105 33
bbc
Boris Johnson breaking a promise?

Sounds about right.

Not exactly a man of his word is he?
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24/03/2021 15:20:03 52 18
bbc
He got Brexit done.....

/sarcasm

[The above was a joke]
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24/03/2021 16:03:15 15 3
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sadly the reality is not so amusing....
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24/03/2021 16:11:05 17 4
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It was us that got 'done' by Brexit. The disaster capitalist rich boys did very nicely though. Oh, and where's the extra £350 million a week?
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25/03/2021 10:40:44 1 0
bbc
No he got "done" by Brexit
642
25/03/2021 11:32:46 0 0
bbc
He has got Brexit done.
692
25/03/2021 13:09:04 1 0
bbc
So is 'leave' - a very sick one.
694
25/03/2021 13:35:59 2 0
bbc
Sadly Brexit is no joke. Possibly the most appalling act of self harm in British history
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24/03/2021 15:06:06 6 14
bbc
Coming from the man whose party would have denuclearised our country? You could have a million soldiers and we'd be more vulnerable than having 70,000 soldiers with a nuclear arsenal.
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24/03/2021 15:20:13 2 1
bbc
How do you work that out? We have a no first strike policy. We'll only use our nukes if nukes are used against us. A much larger nuclear deterent didn't stop Argentina walking into the Falklands did it? Lucky we had a proper military back in the early 80s (despite John Nott) and we took them back.
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24/03/2021 17:45:59 0 1
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They work because they have deterred the other side from using them so far, best example to use is India and Pakistan, if only one of those had nukes you can bet your boots the other would have used them by now
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24/03/2021 15:15:57 9 6
bbc
This all smells once again of Dominic Cummings the techno believer/obsessive. Who thinks that Twitter will turn back Russian armour? Comparing cyber attack with physical attack is negligent nonsense. A credible military needs both boots and bots.
67
24/03/2021 15:20:43 1 2
bbc
Have you heard one about the dog with no nose ?
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24/03/2021 15:06:06 6 14
bbc
Coming from the man whose party would have denuclearised our country? You could have a million soldiers and we'd be more vulnerable than having 70,000 soldiers with a nuclear arsenal.
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24/03/2021 15:21:48 1 0
bbc
Maybe that is why Iran wants Nuclear weapons?
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24/03/2021 15:17:37 9 8
bbc
Dominic Cummings quit last year. Keep up.
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24/03/2021 15:22:04 4 1
bbc
The work behind this plan was started many months ago, unless you think Johnson et al really are idiotic enough make policy over this morning’s breakfast.
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24/03/2021 15:29:21 1 1
bbc
Perhaps you haven't been reading the news much, but we've had a pandemic and the largest increase in debt and spending since WW2. So, it might be news to you, that the original fiscal plans have been made somewhat impossible. It's not just some right wing conspiracy like you like to think it all is.
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24/03/2021 15:15:56 3 3
bbc
Also, please, do tell when we were last invaded. And I mean actually invaded, not just dealt with a few terrorists (which by the way are a police matter on our shores not an army matter).
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24/03/2021 15:23:08 0 1
bbc
Sounds like you are from the 'We have a plan, the plan worked. Probably didn't need a plan' group.
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24/03/2021 15:23:52 8 3
bbc
So, a £24bn increase in modernising our Armed Forces, but how much of that goes paying for the overspend currently in the system? How much goes on the bombs? Who is to man the cyber unit - are these numbers over and above the 72,500.

Is this to help out Capita who have failed to provide the Armed Forces with their recruit requirements? How much is to be spent on the housing unfit to live in?
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24/03/2021 15:17:52 0 0
bbc
He must have crossed the channel at some point no other way of getting here or did you not know Britain is a island
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24/03/2021 15:24:06 0 0
bbc
Unfortunately for you salman abedi was actually born in Manchester. Why don't you check before making a fool of yourself.
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24/03/2021 15:08:27 1 0
bbc
Anyone unable to spell armed would certainly be excluded.
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24/03/2021 15:24:50 2 0
bbc
Sadly thats not true. The Army spend a lot of time teaching basic literacy to new recruits.
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24/03/2021 15:27:29 4 11
bbc
Shut up Starmer you incompetent buffon.
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24/03/2021 15:30:24 8 2
bbc
I'm sure you meant to say "Shut up Bojo the Brexit Blobby you incompetent buffon" ....
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24/03/2021 15:30:43 5 1
bbc
Call names all you want but the truth hurts, doesn’t it?
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24/03/2021 15:33:47 4 0
bbc
incompetent buffoon. Yeah that's Bozo's job.
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24/03/2021 15:38:18 3 0
bbc
Bozo is the incompetent one. He was warned before Xmas that there was a lockdown required over the Xmas period. Bozo claimed Starmer was the Man who wanted to wreak Xmas. The Bozo locked down later the same day but it was too late and the UK suffered a massive increase in deaths later on. But Hey don’t let your myopic viewpoint worry you
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24/03/2021 15:54:42 0 0
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Shut up john you tory pleb.
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24/03/2021 14:52:46 10 5
bbc
Johnson could have brown spots all around his mouth and would still claim he didn't eat the chocolates...
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24/03/2021 15:28:15 3 0
bbc
But he could be right, given what he usually talks.
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24/03/2021 15:22:04 4 1
bbc
The work behind this plan was started many months ago, unless you think Johnson et al really are idiotic enough make policy over this morning’s breakfast.
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24/03/2021 15:29:21 1 1
bbc
Perhaps you haven't been reading the news much, but we've had a pandemic and the largest increase in debt and spending since WW2. So, it might be news to you, that the original fiscal plans have been made somewhat impossible. It's not just some right wing conspiracy like you like to think it all is.
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24/03/2021 15:15:57 9 6
bbc
This all smells once again of Dominic Cummings the techno believer/obsessive. Who thinks that Twitter will turn back Russian armour? Comparing cyber attack with physical attack is negligent nonsense. A credible military needs both boots and bots.
77
24/03/2021 15:29:32 0 1
bbc
TBH 200 30 year old Challengers aren't going to turn Russian armour back either.

If you believe the stories in the media the Russians are messing with the GPS for RAF transports flying in and out of Cyprus. That could quite easily cause 100s of deaths. Likewise taking down the UK power grid for 48 hours would cause a phenomenal amount of deaths (start with hospitals blacked out)
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24/03/2021 15:50:54 0 0
bbc
U.K. cyber attacked leading 100s of deaths due to systems failures, U.K. does the same back to the aggressor. Assuming the two protagonists don’t then annihilate each other, both states revert to 25 year old technology which isn’t even as old as the world the Brexity folks were after.
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24/03/2021 15:03:46 5 16
bbc
Was it not Sir Kier who campaigned heavily to have Corbyn elected as PM and we all know what he would have done to our armed forces, yet when he was appointed as labour leader his first job was to get rid of Corbyn.
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24/03/2021 15:29:40 1 2
bbc
Starmer is a slightly less obvious Marxist than Corbyn, but he still is one fundamentally.
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24/03/2021 15:24:05 1 8
bbc
Ukip get my vote next time.
Boris is trying to do to the army what he has done to the economy...... Wreck it!
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24/03/2021 15:32:48 4 2
bbc
Ukip?

Are they still a thing?
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24/03/2021 15:54:15 1 0
bbc
ucrap - the fools who voted 'berxit' ?? ?? ?? ??
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24/03/2021 15:27:29 4 11
bbc
Shut up Starmer you incompetent buffon.
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24/03/2021 15:30:24 8 2
bbc
I'm sure you meant to say "Shut up Bojo the Brexit Blobby you incompetent buffon" ....
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24/03/2021 15:27:29 4 11
bbc
Shut up Starmer you incompetent buffon.
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24/03/2021 15:30:43 5 1
bbc
Call names all you want but the truth hurts, doesn’t it?
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24/03/2021 15:01:07 1 9
bbc
Just how is it that the Labour party have attracted such weak leaders for so long, beeb?

What is it about the culture of their party that causes this?

They haven't had a serious player since Hugh Gaitskell in 1955. Possibly John Smith at a push.
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24/03/2021 15:30:45 1 0
bbc
Surely being a "weak or strong" leader isn't about how you lead your country into a war. It's about having a leader sensible enough NOT to get into a war that doesn't involve us. So that leaves Harold Wilson, who refused to get involved in Vietnam despite intense pressure from the US. Since then they've been queuing up to have a go at anyone!
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24/03/2021 15:30:50 5 5
bbc
When I served in BAOR there was 50k+ serving alongside me, now do not have those bases in Germany, Iraq and Afghanistan forces reduces, where does Starmer think these people are going to be based.
We do not need forces for protecting the empire anymore, better equipped more mobile forces are the future.
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24/03/2021 15:59:09 0 0
bbc
Sounds like common sense.
I'm all for the force multiplier approach, better IT, Comms, transportation etc but not sure about the nukes. West needs the deterrent, agreed but I would rather see it fully in NATO and located in UK, they are counted as a NATO asset after all.
Might be a numbers thing to keep our Defence/GDP rate up and satisfy the USA.
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24/03/2021 15:32:30 43 13
bbc
More lies exposed from Crime Minister Bojo and his corrupt law breaking ToryBrexit government. This corrupt government is rotten to the core.
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25/03/2021 09:51:02 1 6
bbc
The career politicians are all the same, Tory and Labour. They are all warmongers.
Starmer is the right size, though. And midgets like Napoleon are always more dangerous.
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25/03/2021 11:42:19 0 1
bbc
They have an 80 seat majority and there is no election until 2024. Hard luck, mate.
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24/03/2021 15:27:29 4 11
bbc
Shut up Starmer you incompetent buffon.
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24/03/2021 15:33:47 4 0
bbc
incompetent buffoon. Yeah that's Bozo's job.
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24/03/2021 15:34:14 5 7
bbc
Starmer breaks wind.
Again.
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24/03/2021 15:38:02 5 1
bbc
So that's why Bozo's hair looks like that.
Here 's me thinking it was Bozo using a balloon to comb his hair.
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24/03/2021 15:42:39 1 1
bbc
Is that all you've got to contribute? Probably.
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24/03/2021 15:29:17 4 7
bbc
Just hilarious isn't it.
The human rights lawyer and pacifist Sir Sneer Starmless bringing up defense.
I wouldn't trust these Socialists to defend our country. Just look at their record. Anti nato, anti nuclear, pro handing over the Falklands to the Argies.
They want the army to be a glorified Peace corps.
Pathetic
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24/03/2021 15:36:48 7 3
bbc
I wouldn't trust these Socialists to defend our country And yet you trust the clown party...................priceless
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24/03/2021 15:41:44 2 0
bbc
Labour took this country into war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not saying it was a good thing but it wasn't an act of pacifism or surrender either.
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24/03/2021 15:52:27 0 0
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keep em coming Einstein.
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24/03/2021 15:29:50 25 6
bbc
Bozo lying? Surely not?
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25/03/2021 11:52:19 0 6
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BBC Tory-haters ranting and complaining? Surely not?
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24/03/2021 15:19:13 5 5
bbc
The nature of warfare has changed drastically since the days of the trenches, these days it's all about air power, nuclear power and processing power.
You know bugger all Removed
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24/03/2021 15:40:06 0 0
bbc
Enlighten us with your wisdom then.
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24/03/2021 15:34:44 3 7
bbc
Cutting the British forces is criminal.
Mind you the way they are treated means people don't want to join anyway.
Starmer does not give a damn about it only that its a points scoring exercise for him. Typical labour worm
Typical scum comment.
I voted LD by the way :)
Removed
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24/03/2021 15:56:30 4 0
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So you back Mr Honest on his reduction of ten thousand troops. Johnsons problem is he cannot remember his own lies.
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24/03/2021 15:31:20 5 9
bbc
Bottom lip quivering Starmer says in hindsight that tories have reduced troop numbers, well there’s a thing called technology that negates huge troop numbers, I thought socialist would be up for that, but starmer more akin to Blair so capitalism socialism, strange mix of views, anyway Sir Starmer London based working mans hero an irrelevance as no way the guy will ever get keys to number 10
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24/03/2021 15:43:32 6 3
bbc
My word it's almost as if you are quoting the bumper book of Bozo fibs. Only the clown loons believe all that guff.
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24/03/2021 15:50:46 3 0
bbc
fevered r/wing supporter writes today's pap whilst dunking biscuit.
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24/03/2021 15:24:05 1 8
bbc
Ukip get my vote next time.
Boris is trying to do to the army what he has done to the economy...... Wreck it!
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24/03/2021 15:32:48 4 2
bbc
Ukip?

Are they still a thing?
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24/03/2021 15:43:09 1 0
bbc
They're not so much of a party, more of a sort code.
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24/03/2021 15:19:13 5 5
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The nature of warfare has changed drastically since the days of the trenches, these days it's all about air power, nuclear power and processing power.
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24/03/2021 15:35:11 3 0
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Look around you wars are still waged by lots of soldiers on the ground, the nukes, aircraft, cyber are merely their 21st century weapons. If the only wars we can imagine fighting are those of annihilation ditch the man power and beef up the nukes. However unlike 19th century North America the stolen land won’t be worth much.
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24/03/2021 15:40:13 0 1
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I suggest you revisit the original The Day The Earth Stood Still and think long and hard about Gort and why war was no longer a problem for advanced society.
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24/03/2021 15:35:27 31 6
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100 more nukes @ £25 mill a nuke =£ 2.5 billion , 10,000 soldiers not recruited by Crapita £300 mill a year . This Government is unable to pass an 11+ in maths
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24/03/2021 15:29:17 4 7
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Just hilarious isn't it.
The human rights lawyer and pacifist Sir Sneer Starmless bringing up defense.
I wouldn't trust these Socialists to defend our country. Just look at their record. Anti nato, anti nuclear, pro handing over the Falklands to the Argies.
They want the army to be a glorified Peace corps.
Pathetic
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24/03/2021 15:36:48 7 3
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I wouldn't trust these Socialists to defend our country And yet you trust the clown party...................priceless
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24/03/2021 15:34:14 5 7
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Starmer breaks wind.
Again.
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24/03/2021 15:38:02 5 1
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So that's why Bozo's hair looks like that.
Here 's me thinking it was Bozo using a balloon to comb his hair.
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24/03/2021 15:27:29 4 11
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Shut up Starmer you incompetent buffon.
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24/03/2021 15:38:18 3 0
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Bozo is the incompetent one. He was warned before Xmas that there was a lockdown required over the Xmas period. Bozo claimed Starmer was the Man who wanted to wreak Xmas. The Bozo locked down later the same day but it was too late and the UK suffered a massive increase in deaths later on. But Hey don’t let your myopic viewpoint worry you
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24/03/2021 15:20:02 18 2
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Religious fanatics have been responsible for the majority of wars.
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24/03/2021 15:38:21 15 0
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Aye that's Jacob Rees-Mogg for you.
93
24/03/2021 15:35:11 3 0
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Look around you wars are still waged by lots of soldiers on the ground, the nukes, aircraft, cyber are merely their 21st century weapons. If the only wars we can imagine fighting are those of annihilation ditch the man power and beef up the nukes. However unlike 19th century North America the stolen land won’t be worth much.
99
24/03/2021 15:40:13 0 1
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I suggest you revisit the original The Day The Earth Stood Still and think long and hard about Gort and why war was no longer a problem for advanced society.
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24/03/2021 15:40:33 11 6
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Perhaps Starmer could remind uf any promise the conservatives have kept.

Time for PR.