Coronavirus: EU and UK try to end row with 'win-win' on vaccines
24/03/2021 | news | world | 8,052
After weeks of tension over Covid vaccine supplies, the two sides now say they are working together.
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24/03/2021 14:52:51 1257 161
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& still they - the EU - struggle to understand why we got the hell out of there.....
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24/03/2021 14:58:01 200 1643
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I think we should rejoin.

Then at least we'd be able to resume normal travel this summer and the Home Secretary wouldn't be able to bring in discriminationary immigration rules.
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24/03/2021 14:58:54 46 165
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The EU programme was voluntary. The UK could still have gone it alone. Other EU nations have done just that. It's called sovereignty.

Alas, gratuitous hatred of the EU seems to come naturally for people who have probably received a dose manufactured in a EU country.
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24/03/2021 15:01:26 55 242
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The sensible people in the UK didn't want out .. only the Tory little Englanders
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24/03/2021 15:08:04 7 34
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Because they should continue to act to benefit us even after we left? Typical quitter thinking!
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24/03/2021 15:08:33 8 33
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Sean Mate - what would your benefit of Brexit have been if
A) Corona hadn't happened
B) Oxford hadn't started work in january 2020 two months before Johnson woke up
C) Paris had suceeded and Oxford hadn't
D) the UK hadn't written tighter contracts with suppliers for 3-4 toimes as many does as the UK needs

Could you or another Leaver answer?
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24/03/2021 15:08:06 14 6
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EU showing its true colours. I would suggest people in the UK boycott EU goods for now. Hit them where it hurts.
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24/03/2021 15:16:53 4 12
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One thing we have done well does not make leaving the EU a good idea. Ask any exporter, particularly a food exporter how Brexit is working for them.
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24/03/2021 15:18:15 1 9
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and yet - we are still to se the full effects of BREXIT my friend ....!!
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24/03/2021 15:21:25 3 6
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Nope. In the EU your country is irrelevant, insignificant, ignored and voiceless. That's the price to pay for your hostility.
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24/03/2021 14:53:05 96 12
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i'm taking my football home type stuff...
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24/03/2021 14:53:11 23 2
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This is gonna be fun.
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24/03/2021 14:53:50 5 8
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Thank you EU.
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24/03/2021 14:53:50 1817 129
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'Not an export ban'. Stop pretending. Contracts are worthless when the Eu needs to cover it's backside for it's abysmal procurement errors.
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24/03/2021 14:59:19 262 1452
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How many have we exported?

Pot calling the kettle back?
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24/03/2021 15:13:25 67 1
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Now, they've got the Italian police confiscating 29m doses destined for Belgium because they suspected they might end up in the UK. What an absolute shambles.
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24/03/2021 15:19:56 3 58
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EU signed the contract ahead of UK. Both contracts are free to download in public domain. You're talking pollocks.
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24/03/2021 15:27:50 3 26
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I wonder if BJ would have done differently, if it where the other way around - uk exporting vaccines while there are not enough for your own people. I can imagine the headlines in the tabloids... UK has exported zero, EU over 40m and 10m to UK
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24/03/2021 15:26:40 1 1
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And your opinion on the USAs patriot Act?
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24/03/2021 15:27:44 0 17
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The EU has exported 10 million doses to the UK, the UK has not exported a single dose. It’s a bit late to complain about export bans.
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24/03/2021 14:54:06 1849 135
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So it is wrong that the UK stick to their Contracts with an Independent Supplier, but it is okay for the EU to force Independent Suppliers to break their Contracts and horde the vaccines for themselves.

Makes perfect sense I guess if you exist in a mismanaged authoritarian conglomerate of states,
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24/03/2021 15:02:56 245 1413
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Have you read the contract? Thought not - why don't you get off this hysterical blaming bandwagon and recognise that we are all humans - even Europeans!
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24/03/2021 15:11:54 115 6
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They already have supplies, their vaccination program is a joke and this is a smokescreen
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24/03/2021 15:15:13 14 173
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Except the EU ordered them first, the difference is O-AZ scammed the UK for 8 times the price per dose than the EU did. All the EU is asking for is what they have paid for
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24/03/2021 15:22:38 2 42
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Every stick got 2 ends. You bribed AZ and the EU will retaliate.
24/03/2021 16:06:20 0 5
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Yawn - Mail reader?
24/03/2021 16:12:57 0 14
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Why is it the the EU has recieved no vaccenes from the UK when the EU signed its contract with AstraZeneca before the UK. The UK acts as if the are free now and they do not have to care about its neighbours any more. I believe the UK has also pressured AstraZeneca so that they are not exporting vaccenes, but that is not important to focus on if you are from the UK.
24/03/2021 16:14:14 0 9
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AstraZeneca is in breach of contract for providing the EU (and Australia too btw) less than half the doses they were supposed to provide.
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24/03/2021 14:54:10 35 13
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Luckily we make all the Oxford AZ vaccine here in the UK that we require, so no need for panic.
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24/03/2021 14:57:21 28 4
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Actually, we don't - components come from 19 different countries. It is complex manufacturing vaccines.
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24/03/2021 14:59:36 7 2
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I wish that were the case, sadly it isn't, we rely on many elements that come from the EU.
24/03/2021 20:27:50 1 0
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No we don't, India makes lots of it.
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24/03/2021 14:54:19 780 34
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Blaming everyone else. So childish. This was an own goal.
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The eu has exported over 44 million vaccinnes to 33 nations around the world

The uk received the largest amount (over 10 million) which equates to about 1/3 of the total number we have administered

Not 1 single uk made vaccine has been exported to any nation on earth

When asked about the reason for the uks vaccine success Boris Johnson is quoted as saying "greed and capatilism"
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24/03/2021 15:27:20 12 147
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EU signed the contract ahead of UK, but EU contracted vaccines disaapeared from the continent and resurfaced in UK.
24/03/2021 16:08:36 1 2
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We have our own idiot in charge...
24/03/2021 16:24:27 3 0
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Quite a xenophobic and transphobic remark
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24/03/2021 14:54:24 235 27
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Does anyone believe anything the EU says anymore ?
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24/03/2021 14:56:25 67 294
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A damn sight more than I believe Johnson!
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24/03/2021 14:56:54 11 3
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No
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24/03/2021 15:01:05 17 4
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They are politicians. Therefore they lie to save their own skins and make themselves rich. They are not better than anyone. That said the EU have finally shown their true nature by forcing a company to break a legally binding contract.
24/03/2021 17:35:41 1 0
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I never really believed what the Eu said.
24/03/2021 21:09:07 1 0
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Did anyone believe the Execrable Union in the first place?
25/03/2021 06:01:13 0 0
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Get your news from different sources you find it more accurate. Britain is a very small nation in big world, the news aways fits a common theme ok UK media outlets 'woohoo UK yay and someone else bad'.
Q all the brexiteers with their hate
Then moan they can't go on holiday to Benidorm ??????
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24/03/2021 14:56:09 6 4
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Oh the hypocrisy.
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24/03/2021 14:54:38 943 166
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Anyone still wondering why we left the EU?....anyone?
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24/03/2021 14:56:31 620 166
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Only remoaners
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24/03/2021 14:59:24 45 78
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It's because you hate foreigners. Nothing new to report on that one.
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24/03/2021 14:59:49 53 24
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Ancient One we are finally seeing the EU showing its true colours.
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24/03/2021 15:07:04 32 38
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how are those british exports going since brexit? lol
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24/03/2021 15:17:16 27 23
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mate what would you say was the benefit of leave if the virus hadn't happened? 27 countries, ALL with the same freedom to act just as we did. Nothing we've done we could not have done inside. So, looking at the facts, outside the brexiteer tabloids, yes, wondering
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24/03/2021 15:26:39 10 19
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Because we had a referendum and a bunch of thick people voted "leave" to somehow punish David Cameron.... Those thick people had no idea what they were really doing. Hence the huuuuge spike in Google searches for "what is the EU?" the day after the result.
24/03/2021 15:50:38 1 6
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Probably down voted x47 by Olivia, Harriet and Sophie from the Home Counties.
24/03/2021 16:09:33 8 6
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The eu has exported over 44 million vaccinnes to 33 nations around the world

The uk received the largest amount (over 10 million) which equates to about 1/3 of the total number we have administered

Not 1 single uk made vaccine has been exported to any nation on earth

When asked about the reason for the uks vaccine success Boris Johnson is quoted as saying "greed and capitalism"
24/03/2021 16:22:02 2 0
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I'm starting to wonder what's happened to our country to be honest..
24/03/2021 16:24:43 0 4
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It's worse for trans people
24/03/2021 16:26:42 1 3
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Yes me! I hope you live to regret it!
Ben
24/03/2021 16:35:01 0 2
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Good riddens
24/03/2021 16:57:51 2 5
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Remoaners never wanted UK to make a vaccine
24/03/2021 18:08:45 3 1
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Only the UK, US, Israel & UAE have vaccinated large numbers; the problem of vaccine supply is not confined to EU countries. The UK has exported no doses to other countries. My vaccination was with the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine, invented by a small German biotech company which was already receiving EU grants, manufactured in Belgium & shipped via Germany. I am grateful for international expertise.
24/03/2021 18:20:27 0 1
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You only ever wanted to leave once it became news 5 years ago.
24/03/2021 18:24:18 1 1
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Stop playing Flags
24/03/2021 18:29:24 0 1
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No I'm not that's why I am going to live there away from the daily lies.
24/03/2021 18:38:32 1 1
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I am a remainer but I am appalled by what the EU have done on so many levels in this vaccine fiasco. I hope that all right-minded people think the same.
MT
24/03/2021 18:52:43 1 3
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I was not sure whether to vote to leave or not. I am absolute sure now that we should sever the existing poor trade deal and go to WTO at least its a level playing field. Should exclude EU from our seas, 12 mile exclusion zone, as the EU is doing all it can to punish Uk for leaving, to keep its realm intact and prevent others from leaving. They are trying to succeed something that failed in WWII
24/03/2021 19:05:58 0 1
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Sssooo glad you've gone
24/03/2021 19:49:53 0 0
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Its why I voted BREXIT
24/03/2021 20:59:50 0 1
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You obviously are not an exporter.
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24/03/2021 14:54:40 22 14
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EU looking after its own.

UK looks after itself too.

What's the difference?
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24/03/2021 15:01:50 11 3
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We got in first and are doing better!
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24/03/2021 15:25:17 0 1
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The difference in this instance is the demand for 200m vaccines for the distribution of 10m to the UK ...
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24/03/2021 15:29:41 0 0
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The differed is that the U.K. is not interfering in international trade and confiscating legally contracted vaccine supplies.
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24/03/2021 14:54:59 7 21
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When are we rejoining!!
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24/03/2021 14:59:23 11 5
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never
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24/03/2021 14:55:00 644 25
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So the EU confiscated their own vaccines at the weekend. It's like the basis of a political sitcom.
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EUss Minister
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The eu has exported over 44 million vaccinnes to 33 nations around the world

The uk received the largest amount (over 10 million) which equates to about 1/3 of the total number we have administered

Not 1 single uk made vaccine has been exported to any nation on earth

When asked about the reason for the uks vaccine success Boris Johnson is quoted as saying "greed and capitalism"
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24/03/2021 16:33:24 5 0
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Brass neck
24/03/2021 16:48:51 14 0
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That "ll show em not to mess around with , er, themselves i imagine.
24/03/2021 17:11:48 11 0
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Agreed. It would be funny if they weren't killing their own people.
24/03/2021 17:32:28 7 0
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'Allo 'Allo!
24/03/2021 18:36:54 0 7
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So it's their vaccine then
Why has 10million doses gone to UK then. And where were the hidden 29million doses going then. I suppose they hid it themselves.
24/03/2021 21:59:54 0 0
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Fawlty Towers in Brussels..
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24/03/2021 14:55:04 8 7
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What was it Boris said: Capitalism and greed?
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24/03/2021 14:58:30 4 0
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BJ probably meant the EU could do with some ...
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24/03/2021 14:55:23 29 11
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so eu wants to hold us up until hey catch up
That seems fair we all pay for van der liars mess
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24/03/2021 14:57:36 27 6
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Isn't that what the EU is all about ... holding all the capable students back so the slow coaches can try and catch up ... and if not don't allow the achievers to progress any further.

Its why the EU isn't a leader in industry or innovation ...
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24/03/2021 14:55:35 51 6
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Makes the Chuckle Bros look like the A-Team.

Quite unbelievable.
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24/03/2021 14:55:48 167 12
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The rhetoric is still ‘attack’ from the EU. The sooner they pipe-down and start sounding like they’re not a spoiled child the better for everyone in the EU and in the wider world. We need to work together and make the people feel like that’s what’s happening.
24/03/2021 16:45:42 68 11
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Seem to forget who liberated them
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24/03/2021 14:55:54 11 12
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I'd love to see the Astra Zeneca contracts. And unless you know the detail, it's someone's world against someone else's. It's the easiest thing in the world to promise everything to everyone, and then fail to deliver. Countless firms have done it, in this case because they were trying to help? This needs to be done fairly. It is not "our" vaccine.
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24/03/2021 15:06:15 3 2
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The difference in the contracts is that the UK has a penalty clause if AZ doesn't deliver. The EU contract failed to include this.
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24/03/2021 15:05:33 3 1
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Actually, it is 'our' vaccine - the UK government paid for its development and AZ is selling it at cost, not that the BBC ever talk about that. And it is 'our' vaccine in the sense that be ordered and paid for millions of doses, long prior to the EU procurement. What would make sense is for the EU to ask the UK for our help in getting EU production lines up and running instead of persecuting us.
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24/03/2021 14:55:59 2373 116
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It's not good enough for them
It's too risky for them
They have 20 million vaccines doses stockpiled
Yet they refuse to export something they've terrified their own people out of taking
They just look worse & worse
Keep shooting themselves in the foot like this, they'll have no toes left.
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Bob
24/03/2021 15:07:00 580 56
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We have similar levels, once population is accounted for, stockpiled. The reason for stockpiling is not to be some super-hoarder but to make sure that 2nd doses are available should further supply fail for any reason.

That's why despite our Indian shipment being delayed we have been told 2nd doses will be unaffected.
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24/03/2021 15:19:16 123 10
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It would add some credulity to the EU’s case if they were to include their stocks of a vaccine and the rate at which they’re using it, rather than just looking at who’s doing better than they are and deliberately hampering somebody more successful.

As they haven’t it’s clear that this is just post-Brexit vindictiveness on the part of the EU. And they don’t trust us!
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24/03/2021 15:26:48 106 5
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They have already blown both feet of with a double barrel due to their AZ fake news.
Now they are going for their own private parts with a pump action.

Next will be an elephant gun to the head.
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24/03/2021 15:30:16 12 131
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The EU rules. It is cold out there dear brexiters. The uk is powerless now.
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24/03/2021 15:31:32 32 6
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When you say "they", do you mean the EU? Because the EMA (the official EU medical body) has always stood by their approval of the vaccine. It was the decision of individual countries to halt vaccinations by exercising their sovereign rights.
24/03/2021 15:42:49 104 3
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It all comes down to Macrons huge sense of shame over the Sanofi and Pastuer labs failings to provide a French national vaccine.

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24/03/2021 15:49:53 8 0
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already lost both feet and a bit of the ankle I think
24/03/2021 16:12:53 4 48
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England has the highest covid deaths toll in Europe... We are in no position to give lessons here.
24/03/2021 16:22:34 0 10
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Bit racist but ok
MC
24/03/2021 16:24:25 1 18
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That is a fabrication of your media. Most people across the EU would happily take AstraZeneca if they would actually deliver what was ordered.
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EU Rules on Vaccine Export Control.

1. The country must not be an Island
2. U and K must not be in their name
3. They must not have left the EU in the last 2 years
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?? yes. This!
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24/03/2021 15:25:28 10 42
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Over 10m vaccines delivered so far to the UK from the EU. UK export to EU, nada.
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24/03/2021 15:26:05 1 3
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Brilliant. Hope the execution is going to be brilliant as well.
24/03/2021 15:56:10 6 35
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How about the UK accept that they have to treat its neighbours with respect as well. It goes both ways
24/03/2021 16:14:21 9 0
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...you forgot to add Australia in there too.
24/03/2021 16:16:35 5 2
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Nearly a perfect explanation.
24/03/2021 16:23:35 2 16
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Bit racist
24/03/2021 16:54:57 0 5
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Nah. Plain xenophobia this post. Read the article before posting.
24/03/2021 17:08:48 4 0
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Think they need to realise that its 1st come 1st served. We helped and paid for it to be made then got order in before EU. If there is delay in production we get ours 1st then could help them out where possible. They are going to grind to a halt vaccinations not just in eu but elsewhere so we all in the same sinking boat with variants leaking in. Where the eu made vaccinations. Should have a few
24/03/2021 17:10:19 2 5
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Well I won't be driving to Europe this year on British plates and getting all 4 doors kicked in.
24/03/2021 17:36:55 3 0
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Apparently these rules are also applied by India. Odd that there's no criticism of India's unilateral decision to stop AZ shipments to the UK now that Indian cases are rising. Surely contractual obligations apply to them as well?
24/03/2021 17:43:02 0 4
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UK rules on vaccine export control - say there is no ban on exports, but do not export any vaccines.
24/03/2021 18:20:31 0 0
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No surprise to read this comment. Blue brexiteer blinkers on.
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24/03/2021 18:43:27 2 0
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Anyone else did this and it would be considered an Act of War. FACT. its a hostile action aimed directly at the UK, who ironically developed the vaccine that the EU vilified!

We should revoke licensing of the vaccine in EU! We paid for its development, we developed it, we even offered it at zero profit..

Time to throw the existing deal out and have WTO as at least it will be level playing field.
IDIOT!!! Wait until they stop all the exports and see if you are so clever!! Removed
24/03/2021 20:35:29 0 0
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And what are you going to do about it? Send in the Bombers? lol
24/03/2021 20:57:20 1 1
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"1. The country must not be an Island"

Who's going to break the news to Ireland, Cyprus and Malta?
25/03/2021 02:29:59 0 0
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The UK is a series of islands - mainly Great Britain and the northern part of Ireland.
Q all the brexiteers with their hate
Then moan they can't go on holiday to Benidorm ??????
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24/03/2021 14:56:09 6 4
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Oh the hypocrisy.
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24/03/2021 14:56:16 367 20
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You can dress it up any way you want, but it is a ban.
jon
24/03/2021 15:58:49 283 15
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Yes. Banning health products like vaccines is an act of hostility.
25/03/2021 02:50:46 1 0
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EU invested millions into both AZ plants in Britain while Britain invested zip all, the AZ vaccine is a modified Chimpanzee flu/cold, some of its side effects unknown some that are known is blood clotting.
Britain is not exporting the vaccine. EU does though
The UK agreed to purchase at least double the cost. https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-07-19-the-oxford-covid-19-vaccine
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sitting on 29 million doses to be sent to Belgium and presumably distributed among EU countries ..what are they waiting for?
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24/03/2021 15:23:24 54 16
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I think a large portion of those are earmarked for covax.
24/03/2021 15:44:04 11 3
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It's because they think it's Brittish,Muppets,do they think we care how stupid they look,and the people there should tell them that
24/03/2021 15:53:26 8 44
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Some of us read French and Italian media and yes after inspection (ordered by the EU) many of these doses were destined to the UK, but AZ and UK will not admit that these doses need to be distributed to the EU too!

it is incredible, incredibly sad, actually disgraceful that many here seem to blame the EU for everything.
24/03/2021 16:36:57 18 0
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Typical EU incompetence.
24/03/2021 16:59:16 15 0
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They are waiting for the EU to buy a needle
24/03/2021 17:16:37 5 0
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Frau Merkel to give them the order?
25/03/2021 00:41:23 0 0
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They are waiting for :- the batch testing results allowing the vaccines to be used; for the EU regulators to give the export licence allowing export of said vaccines to EU member states; & presumably allowing for negotiations to take place for a more equable distribution (but who's going to decide what's equable?) Whilst politicians cast blame people die. Yes... what ARE they waiting for?
25/03/2021 02:01:22 0 0
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They're hoping Britian will follow them down the tubes.
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Does anyone believe anything the EU says anymore ?
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A damn sight more than I believe Johnson!
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24/03/2021 15:22:59 20 1
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Mate, I'm no lover of anyone or anything Tory. But NO WAY would I believe anything said by the EU over HM Gvmnt
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24/03/2021 15:36:43 2 0
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See, you can fool some of the people all of thw time!
24/03/2021 15:58:42 4 2
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Go live there if you think they are so wonderful
24/03/2021 16:02:17 3 4
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This country knows very well that we cannot trust a word Johnson is saying and yet the EU cannot be trusted, one could not make this up!
24/03/2021 16:09:54 2 0
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still getting over brexit eh
24/03/2021 16:23:16 1 2
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Spot on but people in the UK seem to have incredibly short memories .
24/03/2021 16:38:12 2 1
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Go back to reading your Mirror
24/03/2021 16:39:04 4 1
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Wrong echo chamber mate
24/03/2021 16:44:29 3 1
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Move to Europe mate
25/03/2021 02:11:33 0 0
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Have a nice day.
25/03/2021 02:58:33 0 0
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Amen.
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Anyone still wondering why we left the EU?....anyone?
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Only remoaners
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24/03/2021 15:21:33 21 36
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Xenophobia is why quitters wanted to leave
24/03/2021 16:27:09 2 3
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I hope you live to regret it too!
24/03/2021 18:00:50 3 1
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I'm a proud remoaner and ever more shall be so!! Brexit was ever a ridiculous act of self harm. £400 billion to 'lost economic output' by 2022!! Our food and drink exports are down by 75%!! Beeb don't report this and Murdochy media will never concede that their precious Brexit has turned into a rapidly deteriorating situation. No good will ever come of this foolish isolationist ideology.
24/03/2021 20:54:13 1 1
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Thats about a dozen all told, all on HYS under 1500 different usernames ;-)
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French & German elections will be hilarious.

The EU have reached a new low.
24/03/2021 15:42:48 50 15
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Maybe not so funny - their ineptitude is opening the door to far right parties to do much better than they should....
24/03/2021 16:38:32 0 2
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Not quite yet.
24/03/2021 16:38:54 0 12
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Then do me a favour and please stay out of the EU I wouldn't want to bump into the likes of you when I'm allowed to go on holiday again!
25/03/2021 00:05:49 0 0
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Macron is probably doomed, but he's looking forward to his new seat in Brussels which is being electrically heated as we speak.

Germany? I don't know. Merkel's party will probably lose but not by much. I expect more of the same from the Germans going forward.
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EU still stinging over Brexit, which is only to be expected given recent events over the Irish Protocol and trade.
We dared to break up the club.
They were also slow to make their minds up and enter a contract, and then kept debating whether AZ was safe.
What do they expect of AZ.
That said, all will return to normal a lot quicker if countries work together.
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ULSTER says never never never,
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24/03/2021 14:56:51 853 54
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The Rhetoric coming out of the EU is simply confusing, You dont want it but your banning exports, reminds me of the kid that takes the ball home as he got picked last at footie....GROW UP
Bit like that comming from boris

We are not practicing vaccine nationalism and have not banned any british made vaccines from leaving the uk

But we are not exporting any to any nation on earth until we have our fill
24/03/2021 15:58:19 21 3
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No, this is the kid who doesn't want to play ball at all but sees how much we are enjoying our ball and so decides that they are going to muscle in and take it away from us.
24/03/2021 15:59:13 29 2
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It all comes down to Macrons huge sense of shame over the Sanofi and Pastuer labs failings to provide a French national vaccine.

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24/03/2021 15:59:29 0 2
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You must be talking about my cousin David who now lives quite happily in France.
24/03/2021 16:09:12 11 35
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The eu has exported over 44 million vaccinnes to 33 nations around the world

The uk received the largest amount (over 10 million) which equates to about 1/3 of the total number we have administered

Not 1 single uk made vaccine has been exported to any nation on earth

When asked about the reason for the uks vaccine success Boris Johnson is quoted as saying "greed and capitalism"
24/03/2021 17:15:26 6 0
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The EU never stopped using AZ. It was individual, sovereign nation states who paused using it.
24/03/2021 17:17:32 3 2
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You're
LEARN TO SPELL
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24/03/2021 14:54:24 235 27
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Does anyone believe anything the EU says anymore ?
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24/03/2021 14:56:54 11 3
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No
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24/03/2021 14:57:03 503 73
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Bizarre political bias that Boris is so rarely applauded for his blistering vaccine success. The media would like us to be in the same situation as Europe. Shameful
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24/03/2021 15:13:49 188 400
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Probably because he's not really got anything to do with it. The vaccine is being rolled out by the NHS, as opposed to a Tory donor's company, so it's actually working.
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24/03/2021 15:20:03 26 35
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That's kind of all lies Jings. Oxford started work in January 2020 - if Johnson had reacted as fast we'd have a fraction of the deaths and economic damage. The NHS rolled out the jab, not some dodgy mate and his private company. Johnson deserves applause for being lucky with hos gambles.
24/03/2021 16:35:08 2 21
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Ha ha hahahahahahahha I can't believe what you've said! Please catch up and make sure you read all the facts before you make such an ill thought out comment!
hvr
24/03/2021 16:36:31 3 36
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What have we got to show for this blistering vaccine success though? Really, anything at all? We were told it would return civil liberties yet week in week out restrictions are tightened. Whilst the eu will use its vaccination rollout to return to normal, the uk gov seems satisfied to just boast about its vaccination figures whilst watching its economy and society continue to implode. Pointless.
MT
24/03/2021 18:54:49 1 3
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A pity that Boris seems to go out of his way to be a complete twit! you have to wonder whether he was a secret remainer.
24/03/2021 19:32:19 1 2
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The success of the vaccine rollout has very little to do with Boris. It's mostly down to Oxford and AZ and of course the NHS and all those helping with the rollout.
24/03/2021 22:05:37 1 1
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I think by the media, you mean the BBC and it's newspaper version the Guardian.
25/03/2021 01:59:43 0 0
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Yours sounds like the logic of a european leader.
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24/03/2021 14:57:07 1631 166
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The EU are embarrassing themselves, I didn't think the benefits of Brexit would be so evident so early. Ursula von der Leyen is out of her depth and showing the EU to be a terrible place to do business.
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24/03/2021 15:06:34 188 837
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how are those exports going? down 60%? LOOOL
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24/03/2021 15:09:06 95 33
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We should all BUY BRITISH and boycott EU products. Breaking away from the EU is a great way to diversify industry in the UK.
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24/03/2021 15:13:58 47 113
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How are the fishermen? How's exports? do you have any common sense or are you just full of irrational hatred for an organization you don't even belong to?
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24/03/2021 15:16:24 20 79
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What, you mean they are asking for what they have paid for.........shocking!
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24/03/2021 15:20:03 66 17
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Ursula van der Liar
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24/03/2021 15:20:53 64 3
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UVDL has a history with poor procurement, going and read the debacle with the German military.
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24/03/2021 15:25:12 9 80
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Your business in the EU is pretty much f... with no alternatives emerging on the horizon. You benefit if you can call it one is being pulled out red faced stealing EU contracted vaccines.
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24/03/2021 15:32:00 3 24
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What are we gonna do when we run out od second doses.
The EU was very helpful. Sent 13 million vaccines to the UK. Now they have had enough
24/03/2021 16:06:56 4 7
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And Boris done so well.....145,000 dead.....ya Brexit worked lol
24/03/2021 16:03:41 4 4
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The UK is still doing far worse off in every other area. Don't fool yourself because. Just because you win one battle doesn't mean you win the war.
24/03/2021 16:14:56 3 4
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We in England have the highest covid death toll in Europe.
24/03/2021 16:30:12 3 3
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Time for her to go and have a proper politician in her place.
24/03/2021 16:43:49 1 5
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Astrazeneca and Oxford's reputation is in tatters. The Trials were rubbish, this stupid half dose idea was bonkers (control was tiny and was outlier), incomplete data sent to America, and now they have been found hiding Trial events from the FDA.

They also broke their pledge.
https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/manufacturing-and-distribution/pledge
24/03/2021 16:52:38 1 3
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I would bet my house that the Queen had the Pfizer jabs 3 weeks apart. She should say thank you to those that created, tested and manufactured the Pfizer jab. But she won't.
24/03/2021 16:53:34 1 1
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Little to do with Brexit this one, much as that would be convenient. Actually more to do with contracts and business...or as Boris would say Greed and Capitalism.
24/03/2021 16:55:58 3 2
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I largely agree that Europe has really made a mess of this. But lets be clear, there was nothing stopping the UK from going through a procurement process for vaccines while inside the EU and if we were still in the EU, there would be no question of a possible 'export ban'. We would have had the best of both worlds.
24/03/2021 16:56:06 2 2
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Ursula Von der Leyden is out of her depth (ask the German army) which is why she is in post at the EU - the high salary paying idyll for politicians who have generally been rejected by their own countries or have miserably failed in other posts.
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24/03/2021 14:57:08 11 29
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Those vaccine export results in full:

UK: 0
EU: 10m to grateful UK citizens

I'm sure they will show their gratitude towards the EU here.
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24/03/2021 15:00:09 6 4
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Because we helped setup production plants within EU countries. How many Pfizer plants exist outside the EU?
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24/03/2021 15:00:32 3 1
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And the components exported from the UK to manufacture Pfizer vaccines don't count in your world?
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24/03/2021 15:01:27 3 1
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How about Pfizer vaccine, none of which could be produced without exports from the UK, this is a very simplistic view
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24/03/2021 15:01:53 3 1
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Countries don't export vaccines, firms do. Can't you understand this?
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24/03/2021 15:02:42 0 0
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Yes, by trying to go on holiday there and boosting their economies by doing so
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24/03/2021 15:03:34 4 1
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I think you're missing out the substances UK companies export to EU based companies for 40million doses over there - but why let the facts get in the way of your narrative. 10million to UK citizens grateful for UK GOV procurement contract ability
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24/03/2021 15:03:50 3 1
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Countries do not import/export vaccines (or cars) companies do. With open trade that works well. With protectionism like the EU it doesn’t.
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24/03/2021 15:03:51 4 1
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yet no components have been exported or rights to manufacture the vaccine in other countries has been allowed by the UK have they!

you are a prize numpty.

And if the AZ vaccine is just sitting in warehouses going to waste in the eu what is the point of wanting more
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24/03/2021 15:05:27 3 1
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The EU don't export vaccines and they don't manufacture vaccines. The EU is merely a bureaucracy trying to save face by controlling the flow of vaccines made by multinational companies.

In short, they are getting in the way.
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24/03/2021 15:06:41 2 0
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It is AstraZenica Pharma Company that make the vaccine, not EU.Gov or UK.Gov.
It is up to AZ to fulfill contracts but EU Nationals have stopped exports (to Australia) or left doses sat idle. Vaccine goes out of date if not jabbed into arms.
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24/03/2021 15:06:58 3 0
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The eu haven't exported a single thing. The eu haven't manufactured a single dose. The eu is not a pharmaceutical company. This is private companies fulfilling orders according to the contracts they have signed.
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24/03/2021 14:57:10 558 28
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The EU have made a complete mess of the vaccine procurement and rollout and now trying to divert attention from their massive failings. The EU were keen for companies to fulfill their contracts with them but now introduce a ban so that these companies cannot fulfill their contracts with their other customers.
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24/03/2021 15:38:41 468 23
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Yes. Apparently all the vaccine ingredients the UK has exported don’t count!
Ursula Von der Leyen and Charles Mitchel are both failed domestic politicians. What did anyone expect?
24/03/2021 16:02:26 20 1
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It all comes down to Macrons huge sense of shame over the Sanofi and Pastuer labs failings to provide a French national vaccine.

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24/03/2021 17:17:48 14 0
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It makes sense, to me at least, that if the EU does go through with banning exports of the AZ vaccine, AstraZenica have every right to cut back on deliveries TO the EU.

The EU screwed up, plain and simple, and instead of trying to blame their way out of the situation, they should just do the best they can and wait for the ramp-up in vaccine production that is coming, from both AZ and Pfizer.
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24/03/2021 14:57:13 826 56
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An export ban in all but name probably..... and it will start a shutdown across the world.

Well done EU, just because you need to save face, you are prepared to trash the vaccine production network. Truely disgusting behaviour and I hope the individual Countries don't support this failed organisation's decision
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24/03/2021 15:16:16 377 50
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I am afraid they do... I am from the Netherlands and all things from the EU are wonderful, everything from Britain is bad; just read the local press.
24/03/2021 16:01:56 77 3
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It all comes down to Macrons huge sense of shame over the Sanofi and Pastuer labs failings to provide a French national vaccine.

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24/03/2021 16:16:40 9 123
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What's truly disgusting is the UK exporting zero vaccine.
24/03/2021 16:28:20 7 28
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You haven't read the facts either! Disgusting!
24/03/2021 18:31:58 0 21
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For some reason you seem to believe everything Johnson says. Simple question how many doses has UK exported. None is the answer. Haven't you listened to Johnson's answers
25/03/2021 04:06:12 0 0
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How many vaccines has the UK exported answer 0
How many vaccines has the EU exported 40 million to 33 countries. 10 million to UK.
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24/03/2021 14:57:16 19 0
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Astra zeneca are struggling to meet contractual obligations. The contract parties have a lot to sort out and we all would want open honest discussion.
Anything that supports increasing production should be considered
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24/03/2021 15:16:46 5 0
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I suggest you read the AZ/EU contract, I have
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24/03/2021 15:16:55 4 0
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Confiscation of legally purchased vaccines would not seem to be a way to achieve that aim.

If anything it will make pharmaceutical companies think twice about any further investment in production capacity within the EU.
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24/03/2021 14:57:18 36 11
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Maybe we could ban the export of components for the vaccine
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24/03/2021 14:59:30 32 4
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I hope it doesn't come to that but that is a very good negotiating hand to have
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24/03/2021 14:59:56 3 1
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Considering we need the Pfizer from Belgium, that would be pretty stupid, as the components are for Pfizer
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24/03/2021 15:11:52 4 1
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If you do that you'd be on the same level as them.
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24/03/2021 15:14:25 0 0
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I don’t see how that helps, we need millions more Pfizer jabs to give second jabs to those that have had a first of that one, even if we ceased to use it first any first jabs now I suspect there is not sufficient in stock to do that.
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24/03/2021 15:20:24 1 0
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We should, about time for some hard diplomacy.
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24/03/2021 14:54:10 35 13
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Luckily we make all the Oxford AZ vaccine here in the UK that we require, so no need for panic.
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24/03/2021 14:57:21 28 4
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Actually, we don't - components come from 19 different countries. It is complex manufacturing vaccines.
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24/03/2021 15:20:01 2 3
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Time to assist AZ to bring more manufacturing to the UK and Sweden. The management if AZ must be pulling their hair out over past decisions to locate plants in EU. At the time sensible but now, clearly not so. They are a private company, so will quietly reassess the logic of having EU production facilities, which then face export bans and possible EU takeover of private factories.
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24/03/2021 15:27:05 0 0
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Think you should point that out to the EU !!!
24/03/2021 17:23:59 0 1
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We manufacture it here in the UK, and AZ have confirmed we don't receive any doses or components from the EU.

However, Pfizer vaccine does have vital components made here in the UK, which shows how futile this EU exercise is, as should we choose to reciprocate we could prevent that being manufactured too, at our own detriment of course.
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24/03/2021 14:57:26 720 32
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The EU dithering and indecisiveness leave Macron and Merkel with blood on their hands. I’m all for Europe getting vaccines rolled out, but they are behind the curve simply because of some incredibly ill thought out approaches, and the UK should not see our roll out hampered in any way because of EU’s ineptitude.
If you like dither its reckoned that boris johnsons dither in locking dowm the nation last march directly caused over 20,000 British deaths

Many more passed because he tried his very best to "save Christmas" and flatly ignored SAGE.

But you know all this dont you my friend?
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24/03/2021 15:25:38 26 4
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As with all committees (which the EU is), things take far too long to happen and there are too many views without an ability to make a clear, quick decision. This is why the EU is such a dinosaur and way past its sell be date. This kind of incompetence and inaction happens at every level within the EU & is stiffling growth, development, etc etc.
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24/03/2021 15:36:31 8 5
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They are a dictatorship
24/03/2021 15:45:05 3 0
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It all comes down to Macrons huge sense of shame over the Sanofi and Pastuer labs failings to provide a French national vaccine.

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24/03/2021 14:57:34 3199 192
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Whether you're a remainer or leaver, i think we can all agree the EU haven't dealt with this very well.
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24/03/2021 15:04:29 1060 62
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It's nice to agree for a change :)
I bet the 1 person who disliked this, wears a beret and carries a placard saying I MISS EU! Removed
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24/03/2021 15:06:09 102 473
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Blaming the EU is a poor deflection from Bojo's woeful mishandling of the pandemic.
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24/03/2021 15:03:10 107 299
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Nope. Boris Johnson hasn't dealt with this well.
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24/03/2021 15:13:07 278 21
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I am a remainer and I agree. Beggars belief.
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24/03/2021 15:14:11 97 318
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I do agree, the EU have handled their vaccine programme abominably. However that doesn't take away from Brexit having no benefits and Boris being culpable for a huge chunk of the death toll.
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24/03/2021 15:15:23 302 35
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EU are making up for being so slow at placing orders (some 3 months after us) by trying to screw us over.
This plan of theirs will backfire as there are over 200 components and if a ban is imposed tit for tat means they wont get the components.
EU commission (those unelected bureaucrats) increasingly showing it's true colours and it's not looking pretty.
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24/03/2021 15:15:29 10 75
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If only some the EU contracted vaccines didn't disappear.
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24/03/2021 15:17:24 38 3
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So true, this is negative PR++ and I can't understand how apparently "Grown-ups" politicians have fallen for it.
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24/03/2021 15:20:53 77 16
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Don't worry the remainers told us every Country is sovereign so the EU can't actually stop anyone from exporting to other countries. Unless the remainers have been lied to?
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24/03/2021 15:23:25 11 106
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That’s quite rich when 1/3 of the vaccines in the UK were produced in the EU
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24/03/2021 15:29:32 38 5
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I would really love to know why those who have thumbed you down seem to think the EU vaccination rollout has been such a success.
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24/03/2021 15:26:14 5 50
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Yes I agree, imagine letting a country full of foreign bureaucrats have. 10 million doses of the vaccine and getting not a single one in return. It’s almost as if the UK has a ban on exporting it, yet he says he doesn’t. Can any kippers name a country we have sent vaccines to?
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24/03/2021 15:32:22 15 16
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Agreed. Bojo's comments about 'greed' and 'Capitalism' will be sure to fan the flames and give justification to EU's export ban though. He needs to learn the art of keeping his mouth shut, really. i'm sure a Britsh citizen stuck in Iran at the minute would agree with this.
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24/03/2021 15:34:19 33 1
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Almost every sentence in the AZ/EU vaccine supply contract included the phrase 'best effort' to supply, as medicine production can be problematic, but the EU denied this phrase existed.
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24/03/2021 15:38:37 4 35
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They have a just argumnet. The UK got a contract one day after the EU but has had far more doses delivered.
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24/03/2021 15:35:03 0 1
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More the BBC.
24/03/2021 15:44:23 29 4
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Who are these people.....Who do they represent.....how are they elected....where do their get their power come to instruct Italian police to raid a respectable company that is carrying out life saving work in the midst of a global pandemic. All I can say God save all of us from the insanity that is the EU.
24/03/2021 15:50:14 4 24
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but neither have we. The vaccine gamble has paid off and we are all grateful.
But Johnson and his cronies are not off the hook. They ignored the warnings from Europe, the bungled every aspect of the crisis except the vaccine, even ignoring the pleas of scientists. They say we know more now than a year ago, but incredibly OZ, NZ, Singapore and Korea all seemed to know more a year ago than we did.
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24/03/2021 14:55:23 29 11
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so eu wants to hold us up until hey catch up
That seems fair we all pay for van der liars mess
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24/03/2021 14:57:36 27 6
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Isn't that what the EU is all about ... holding all the capable students back so the slow coaches can try and catch up ... and if not don't allow the achievers to progress any further.

Its why the EU isn't a leader in industry or innovation ...
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24/03/2021 15:00:21 2 3
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Nicely put.
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24/03/2021 15:03:57 2 3
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totally agree with you
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24/03/2021 14:57:41 15 18
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So when it comes to our relationship with the EU, we don't hold all the cards? Who knew?!
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24/03/2021 15:00:17 2 1
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We do have a rather important 'ace'
The fact an important part of the pfizer vaccine is manufactured here
If the EU want to play silly so n so's, we could stop exports of that essential ingredient
Or as is likely, the UK will be the 'bigger man' & not reciprocate in a mean nasty way just because the EU are being mean & nasty to try & cover their own failings
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24/03/2021 15:01:23 1 0
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You've been in lockdown too long. The UK holds a strong hand of cards including a couple of aces. The EU can't make vaccines without items produces in the UK that are being exported to the EU.
Cut of the raw materials we produce and the EU (and us) are totally screwed.
They depend more on us than we do on them.
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24/03/2021 15:00:38 2 0
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Even in the face of mafia like behavior, remainers continue to blow the EU's trumpet.
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24/03/2021 14:57:48 22 10
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One way or another the EU has been screwing around for decades; so what's new this time? Forget contracts, forget treaties, forget rules and regulations - when the EU messes up or wants its' own way, they just get on with it. And we obey their 'rules'.
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24/03/2021 14:57:53 83 0
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This goes to show (a) the integrated nature of supply chains around the world - no one country can possibly contain the means to produce EVERYTHING in order to produce a product "in house", especially complex ones like vaccines, cars, fridges etc. and (b) what a complete dogs breakfast politicians can make of things when they get involved.
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24/03/2021 15:28:00 36 2
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It does however highlight a weakness in the multinational approach. We are nearly all reliant on other countries as we have run down our own manufacturing base. It makes us weak and dependant on others, so we do not have economic or health system resilience anymore.
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24/03/2021 14:57:58 236 14
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A few weeks ago when this first kicked off, one of the HYS scribes suggested that the EU were ratty because "we got our towels on the loungers before they did..." I'm inclined to agree.
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24/03/2021 15:02:39 157 8
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Yep. Couldnt have said it better. We reacted to all this quicker and now bitterness is trying to drag us back to their level.
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24/03/2021 15:22:31 2 12
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we wrote a toghter contract. were lucky with our gamble of approval before test results were in, and thank god Oxford started january 2020 and didn't wait for dither Johnson
EU signed their deal before UK did.
UK however offered to pay double the price of anyone else.
The AZ vaccine is known to cause blood clots.
The AZ vaccine is a modified Chimpanzee flue/cold see attached link
https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-07-19-the-oxford-covid-19-vaccine

The news is heavily filtered to appease the UK public if you choose to follow EU news maybe it will become clear
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24/03/2021 14:52:51 1257 161
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& still they - the EU - struggle to understand why we got the hell out of there.....
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24/03/2021 14:58:01 200 1643
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I think we should rejoin.

Then at least we'd be able to resume normal travel this summer and the Home Secretary wouldn't be able to bring in discriminationary immigration rules.
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24/03/2021 15:00:54 168 24
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You are most definetly not the voice of reason.
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24/03/2021 15:05:05 127 12
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What makes you think we could resume normal travel? Vaccines were meant to provide that but apparently they won't. And do you think a hundred and fifty people turning up in boats each day is safe, for us or them?
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24/03/2021 15:06:37 191 18
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Rejoin, listen I'm Spanish living in uk and in good time you left the eu is an absolute disaster and a complete mafia full of incompetent politicians.
To be honest you should be proud of pissing of the EU
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24/03/2021 15:07:12 96 12
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So never mind we have been able to vaccinate far more people that we would have if we were in the EU. If it potentially impinges on your ability to travel on holiday, you cant see the benefit.
Talk about blind selfishness .
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24/03/2021 15:07:14 100 10
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Your posting 'name' 'Voice of Reason' is at odds with your comment.
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24/03/2021 15:08:26 24 6
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You must be joking, clearly.
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24/03/2021 15:10:01 22 10
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Perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us as to how many "immigrants" the UK has the resources to support? Is it 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 or ... and over what timescale?
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24/03/2021 15:10:11 32 4
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You have your priorities all wrong. International travel is more important to you than the health of the nation?? The epitome of selfishness.
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24/03/2021 15:10:43 26 3
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And where is the discrimination in asking genuine asylum seekers to enter legally and without hiding in whatever container is put their way. Is Austrailia or any other decent country discriminating when it doesnt allow you to paddle on up the beach and declare yourself resident. Utter rubbish how anyone can accept illeagal migrants to have the right to remain in any country they fancy.
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24/03/2021 15:09:50 7 4
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Is that a series comment?
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24/03/2021 15:14:43 8 3
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Have you any idea how long they have said it would take the UK to rejoin, 8 to 10 years. Don't think you have a grasp of the situation when you talk about being able to resume normal travel this summer ...
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24/03/2021 15:12:40 7 1
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LOL
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24/03/2021 15:24:27 6 3
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How would we be able to resume normal travel? We were never part of Schengen and I doubt the UK population would ever agree to be. And, in case you have forgotten, even EU countries have closed their borders from time to time during the pandemic.
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24/03/2021 15:27:21 8 2
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resume normal travel? within a Europe riddled with Coronavirus???
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24/03/2021 15:32:54 5 2
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I for one think we need a more robust immigration system
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24/03/2021 15:37:58 4 1
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Is enforcing the law discriminatory? Surely it is not discriminatory to treat people who have abided by immigration rules differently from those who have broken them?
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24/03/2021 15:38:28 4 1
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Tell you what, go and live there.
24/03/2021 15:47:41 5 2
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Where in the E.U. would you travel ? German is closed so are France and Italy ,Spain maybe but dangerous ?
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24/03/2021 14:58:03 121 14
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The Commission seems to spend more effort trying to deflect blame than on solving the actual problem.

BTW How's that rejoin campaign coming along?
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24/03/2021 14:58:13 11 8
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I wonder if we would do any different.
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24/03/2021 15:00:34 8 3
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We did and got a better outcome.
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24/03/2021 14:58:17 5 11
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All this because the EU, us and others thought copying the CCP’s oppressive measures was a good way to manage a pandemic (even though no previous pandemic was ever managed this way).
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24/03/2021 14:58:29 69 10
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Imagine defending this organisation whilst smearing your neighbour as racists for the past 5 years.
24/03/2021 15:50:48 3 29
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Imagine taking five years to actually find something an organisation has done that is actually worth moaning about! Congrats!
24/03/2021 18:58:33 3 0
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Yep, uneducated racists who didn't know what they were voting for. Usually by remainers who up until that point had little interest in politics but do like visiting the continent and enjoy their food...
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24/03/2021 14:58:29 641 37
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If I was a manufacturer of vaccines or various key ingredients I’d rethink my future strategy of having my manufacturing plants in the EU. Time will tell.
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24/03/2021 15:12:38 501 34
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If I was a manufacturer of anything I would rethink my future strategy of having my manufacturing plants in the EU
24/03/2021 16:09:12 7 43
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Well you wouldn't put them in the UK would you where there are no skilled personnel to work there and you can't bring any in from Europe!
24/03/2021 16:58:24 20 4
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British made should be the norm now
24/03/2021 17:02:51 22 2
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Pfizer did tell them they'd better not stop them from fulfilling their contracts. Maybe they'll move more production back to the Sandwich plant.
24/03/2021 17:43:53 11 6
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We in the UK are almost self sufficient in vaccines ....all manufactured in the UK
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24/03/2021 14:55:04 8 7
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What was it Boris said: Capitalism and greed?
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24/03/2021 14:58:30 4 0
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BJ probably meant the EU could do with some ...
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24/03/2021 14:56:22 85 8
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Makes me happy we left
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24/03/2021 14:52:51 1257 161
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& still they - the EU - struggle to understand why we got the hell out of there.....
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24/03/2021 14:58:54 46 165
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The EU programme was voluntary. The UK could still have gone it alone. Other EU nations have done just that. It's called sovereignty.

Alas, gratuitous hatred of the EU seems to come naturally for people who have probably received a dose manufactured in a EU country.
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24/03/2021 15:07:03 115 7
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The location of the manufacturing sites is purely coincidental. The fact that many are in the EU does not mean that would not be somewhere else if the EU did not exist. It is no reason to thank them. The EU have done very little to assist anyone, themselves included, during this pandemic. Their leaders comments on the vaccine has massively undermined public support for the AZ vaccine in the EU.
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24/03/2021 15:08:04 73 11
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Mine was manufactured in the UK prove otherwise. The EU don't export vaccines drug companies do As for hate for a 1st the accolade goes to the EU The UK are trying to stay of a war of words but could withhold Pfizer components that we produce and see how useful that is!!
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24/03/2021 15:11:43 5 20
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Absolutely, the level of hypocrisy from many people about the EU is astonishing, eg saying that they would be prepared to live on British products only. Liars.
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24/03/2021 15:12:05 20 3
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The European Commission issued a formal communication after EU member states agreed than no individual national regulator would move fast than the EMA (European Medicines Agency). If we were in the EU, we would have been part of that agreement. Thankfully being outside of the formal agreement gave us the freedom to implement the one of the best vaccination rollouts on the planet.
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24/03/2021 15:12:29 12 3
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If the vote had been to remain then politicians of all colours would have seen that as a green light for closer integration.
As an example of the way this would have played out, tell us which EU country did not take part.
I will give you a pointer - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56286235
So when you say "other EU nations have done just that" who do you mean?
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24/03/2021 15:10:03 8 0
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Unfortunately that is not correct. Name one EU country that has gone 'alone' and ordered Pfizer or OxAZ? They can only order vaccines from Russia and China, and we all know there will be a payback
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24/03/2021 15:20:59 7 1
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You bore on with this every time this subject comes up.

Yes, all countries could go it alone but do you really believe the UK would of. The request came from Frau Merkel.

The idea was sound, seeing a wealthy member of the club doing better would cause resentment.

The failure is with commission for being slow and useless.
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24/03/2021 14:58:57 36 7
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They want to drag us down to their level of roll out, don't look so bad then.
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24/03/2021 14:59:11 244 10
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The EU and the UK do not export vaccines - it's the multinational pharma companies that do. On whose soil a product is actually made is pretty irrelevant.

They should be left to run their businesses and fulfil their contracts as they see fit, without the threats of what amounts to confiscation of their products and even their intellectual property.
24/03/2021 16:05:44 137 15
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Watching the demise of the EU is rather exciting !
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24/03/2021 14:59:12 773 60
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EU punishes the UK because we got it right and they didn't, it is like dealing with children
The UK threw its toys out the pram because it didn't want to share it's island with foreigners. How childish. Removed
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24/03/2021 15:05:02 16 45
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If we got it right how come we have a 130k deaths and counting
DG
24/03/2021 16:13:49 2 0
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agree....not helped by sensationalist European media regarding vaccines in Italy which are actually destined for European market not the UK market anyway. European AstraVeneca vaccines are planned to be produced entirely in Europe. May be best for EU to help Astrazeneca third party vaccine producers to improve productivity and amalgamate other vaccine factories....
24/03/2021 16:30:59 0 1
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And you're one of them because you haven't read all the facts, child!
24/03/2021 17:02:56 1 1
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The eu soldat the uk 10 000 000 vaccines. You re calling that a punishment ?
24/03/2021 18:33:11 0 1
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So whose hiding 29million doses in Italian warehouse. Astra zenica. Why.
24/03/2021 22:29:57 0 0
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Codswallop
24/03/2021 23:53:17 0 0
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We got it right? Try telling that to the familes of the 100,000+ people that have died as a direct result of our Governments incompetence.
25/03/2021 02:54:30 0 0
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Yes, but they are very patient with us.
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24/03/2021 14:59:19 1250 68
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I believe that the Irish Taoiseach has pointed out that the Pfizer vaccine requires 230 different parts made by 86 different companies in 19 different countries. The arrogant EU halfwits might like to bear that in mind before they convince themselves that they can control exports of anything.
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24/03/2021 15:00:50 672 14
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and a number made in the UK,
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24/03/2021 15:04:54 7 0
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Not much can go wrong with those variables I suppose ...
24/03/2021 15:53:26 55 0
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Croda of Snaith in Yorkshire produce the lipids used in every dose of Pfizer vaccine produced in the EU.
24/03/2021 15:57:44 0 14
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Which begs the question.....what the hell is in it!?!
EJ
24/03/2021 16:00:35 7 0
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Precisely.
Halfwits........and yet Boris the full idiot caused 145,000 dead by his useless mis actions. Removed
24/03/2021 16:15:48 3 55
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The UK should have kept that in mind before voting brexit like idiots.
24/03/2021 16:52:18 15 2
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The critical lipids (which are in short supply worldwide) are made in the UK.

If the UK reciprocates "proportionately" to the EU threats, they might find they will run out of Pfizer vaccine and have nothing to take but a trickle of the AZ vaccine they so strongly campaigned against.

Only Covidiots would want to holiday in the festering EU this summer.
24/03/2021 16:56:55 0 6
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And you should remember that ChAdOx1 was created by Prof Adrian Hill in 2012 who is Irish (from the EU) and using EU funding.

Are you calling him a halfwit?

You should be ashamed of your ignorance.
Troll de rol...is halfwit intended irony? Removed
24/03/2021 16:45:37 5 0
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Well as much as the Irish like to pretend otherwise, the 27 members are far from equal. Ireland has a very small voice.
24/03/2021 18:22:22 0 1
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So UK not controlling vaccine. Can you look at evidence before backing the brexiteer crusade.
24/03/2021 18:24:33 0 2
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Blah blah yawn!
24/03/2021 18:25:48 6 1
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No good deed goes unpunished.
Astra offer the world an affordable, easy to transport, and highly effective vaccine.... stops 100% of fatalities according to latest US data.

In return they get bullied by the EU who ignore the short comings of the other big pharma companies. Let's not forget that Pfizer are charging 700% more for their vaccine; ruthless protectionism on an epic scale.
24/03/2021 18:39:42 0 6
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So considering that the US has banned exports of raw materials under the defence production act and the UK hoarding of vaccines, the EU export ban is justified to counter any raw materials shortage.
24/03/2021 18:51:17 1 1
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The "Irish Taoiseach." I'm glad you cleared that up for us. We might have thought, without the "Irish" that you were referring to the Greek Taoiseach, or the Chinese Taoiseach. The Taoiseach was, of course, making a good point.
24/03/2021 19:56:03 0 1
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The UK might ask where they will get their Pfizer vaccines without all the ingredients.
24/03/2021 20:46:03 0 1
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Ah, so you're with the pm, them. It's all about greed and not about saving lives.
24/03/2021 21:58:30 1 0
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Well said.

And of course the EU can control exports.... and result will be fewer vaccines manufactured for them or anyone else.

But the almighty religion that is the EU ideology will have been duly worshipped and sacrifices (ie citizens) offered.
24/03/2021 23:43:31 0 0
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so, Brexit was the correct way ahead. funny how things change.
25/03/2021 00:11:38 0 0
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Why the vitriol against the EU, who have supplied us with 10 million vaccines in the last 2 months alone? How many doses did our special friends in America sent us? Why the blind hatred?
CP
25/03/2021 01:06:38 0 0
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With all the unpleasantness going around I am suprised that the drug companies in question dont pull out of the EU and shift all manufacturing elsewhere, that will solve the problem. After all it was and remains BEST EFFORTS.
LH
25/03/2021 01:42:19 0 0
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TOO RIGHT!!
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24/03/2021 14:53:50 1817 129
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'Not an export ban'. Stop pretending. Contracts are worthless when the Eu needs to cover it's backside for it's abysmal procurement errors.
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24/03/2021 14:59:19 262 1452
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How many have we exported?

Pot calling the kettle back?
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24/03/2021 15:01:47 281 12
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The EU haven’t exported any. As Michael Martin said,they don’t belong to the EU.

We export raw materials to other countries for production.
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24/03/2021 15:06:56 280 18
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It still sounds like the EU blaming Britain for the EU's failings.
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24/03/2021 15:08:58 234 6
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It's not the UK exporting but AstraZeneca. It has nothing to do with the UK government.
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24/03/2021 15:10:21 219 3
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probably more than you know.
Also how about all the designs and rights to make vaccines which were developed here along with Sweden at cost hence no profit unlike the Pfizer jab.
Plus the components for Pfizer.

Even you must admit the eu have mucked up
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24/03/2021 15:10:22 210 7
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Just because something is manufactured in a country does not mean that county owns it. If a country took that view then no one would base a manufacturing centre in that country. The company manufacturing the vaccine owns them until they are bought, at which point the buyer owns them. That applies to all goods outside of a state owned manufacturing site, which these are not.
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24/03/2021 15:10:37 149 12
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We have never blocked exports, that's the difference
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24/03/2021 15:10:45 145 14
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I can only hazard a guess but I'm assuming all the down-ticks on here in support of the EU are from EU residents.
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24/03/2021 15:11:59 85 5
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Actual vaccines or vital components or intellectual property?
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24/03/2021 15:12:35 205 7
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OUr contracts are with private pharmaceutical companies, not the EU. The EU are effectively taking private companies into state ownership in order to redirect the supply of vaccines. The reason the UK havent exported any is because our contract states that the UK order is fulfilled first. EU are shameful and this might backfire on them massively.
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24/03/2021 15:12:53 62 2
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It is not the UK government who export them it is Astra zrneca and according to them the EU do not gave a contract to receive any of the UK manufactured vials. The EU contract with astra zeneca is for vaccines manufactured within the EU. EU suffering fro their own protectionist policies.
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24/03/2021 15:13:23 51 0
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Not at all we don't produce enough for the UK hence AZ using its Dutch plant. It would be pretty stupid to export vaccines only to have to import a greater number. Remember the EU don't export anything AZ do. What don't you understand? But we do export components of the PFizer vaccine as a supplier
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24/03/2021 15:13:47 78 5
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The UK funded the Oxford vaccine program and it is sold on a no profit basis. The EU has continually raised unfounded concerns and had temporary bans, thereby damaging their own peoples confidence. Their campaign seems to be purely a political one, trying to punish the UK for its good vaccine progress, for daring to leave the EU and deflecting criticism from its own failures.
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24/03/2021 15:08:54 72 2
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Forgive me for stating the obvious, but companies tend to export stuff bought by customers outside the country. The EU contract is 'best efforts' and was signed months after the UK's. The reason AZ have not exported from the UK is because these are already sold - to the NHS. It's not rocket science - do try and keep up.
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24/03/2021 15:14:51 51 3
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The UK has only received imports of the Pfizer vaccine from the EU, as that is the closest production base.

In terms of AZ the EU obviously has the capacity to produce the vaccine with 29m vials sat in an Italian warehouse. Send them to the UK and we'll vaccinate the 30-50 year olds, as well as 2nd jabs.

In the end the EU are being shown up in the vaccination stakes and dont like it.
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24/03/2021 15:16:59 40 2
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"How many have we exported?" seems to be the latest mantra that FBPE cult members chant daily on social media. Given that they're meant to be the clever ones, it's amazing how few seem to understand that vaccines are "produce of more than one country". Most of the manufacturing chains that end up as 'finished + filled' vials in the EU are dependent on precursors made in the UK - and vice versa.
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24/03/2021 15:18:10 43 3
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Neither we nor the EU have exported any. That is down to companies trying to fulfil the contracts they have.
509
24/03/2021 15:20:36 22 2
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The voice of treason.
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24/03/2021 15:22:07 24 2
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We export the raw materials to make the vaccines and are the only country in the Europe that produce the "fatty molecule" that the vaccines require.
retarded answer, Removed
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24/03/2021 15:28:28 30 2
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The supply chain is complex. Materials and expertise are being exported from the UK to Pfizer and AZ manufacturing.
The UK have also directly funded £585m for vaccine to be manufactures locally where it is needed through COVAX. This is more than any EU state.
The Exports the EU talk about are mainly vaccine purchased by other countries from Pfizer and AZ - not exactly a gift of the EU!
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24/03/2021 15:30:18 9 0
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None the same as the EU and India. AX and Pfizer are exporting them, and I wonder what gives the Eu the right to prevent it? Can someone please explain on the remain side?
752
24/03/2021 15:30:23 18 0
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Have you looked at tge Covax programme run by WHO. They are planning to ensure 2bn doses of tge vaccine are given world wide to the poorest countries by end 2021.. Governmwnts can help by contributing to this programme. UK has contributed 600m€ while the EU as a whole have contributed 400m€. Germany and France have chosen not to contribute directly. Too many folk willing to diss their own country
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OwO
24/03/2021 15:30:33 10 0
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100% of those obliged to have been exported.
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24/03/2021 15:34:24 11 0
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WE're not blocking them. But we signed the contracts months earlier, and paid up front before they were approved. (The one good thing this govt has done.)
EU is complaining that AZ is not honouring its contracts...seems to me that they are complaining BECAUSE AZ is honouring its contracts (at least those that were signed first)
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24/03/2021 14:54:59 7 21
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When are we rejoining!!
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24/03/2021 14:59:23 11 5
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never
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24/03/2021 14:54:38 943 166
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Anyone still wondering why we left the EU?....anyone?
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24/03/2021 14:59:24 45 78
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It's because you hate foreigners. Nothing new to report on that one.
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24/03/2021 15:06:11 44 19
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I pity you.
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Ads
24/03/2021 15:08:14 16 10
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If they're not here, how can they be Foreigners?
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24/03/2021 15:11:31 49 16
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That's obviously not true. More likely a dislike for bureaucratic behemoths that can't see the consequences of their own actions. The EU makes its own people suffer with every poorly considered regulation and dictat, the vaccine debacle is nothing new.
Don't try to blur the lines between dislike of the EU and dislike of Europeans, most of us have friends / family still suffering under their chaos
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24/03/2021 15:22:40 40 8
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You're starting to loose the argument if you just throw in 'your just a racist' in your replies.
24/03/2021 16:18:03 6 2
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Hate speech.
24/03/2021 16:18:03 6 3
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Nope NOT foreigners, not even european citizens JUST the EU
24/03/2021 16:45:22 3 1
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Is that it , seriously ?
24/03/2021 18:02:33 1 1
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'foreigners', offensive racist language.
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24/03/2021 14:57:18 36 11
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Maybe we could ban the export of components for the vaccine
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24/03/2021 14:59:30 32 4
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I hope it doesn't come to that but that is a very good negotiating hand to have
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24/03/2021 14:54:10 35 13
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Luckily we make all the Oxford AZ vaccine here in the UK that we require, so no need for panic.
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24/03/2021 14:59:36 7 2
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I wish that were the case, sadly it isn't, we rely on many elements that come from the EU.
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24/03/2021 14:59:37 25 6
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The EU needs to ban long lunches and acutely do some work ...
24/03/2021 15:59:51 11 0
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Investing in vaccine production like the UK did, and actually sticking jabs in arms would be a start....
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24/03/2021 14:59:40 20 6
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EU covering itself in glory as usual
UK media tarnishing our EU most compassionate reputation yet themselves (HO secretary Patel) show the most inhumane side.I shall speak for EU's Poland only as I am a Polander. We shared our vaccine supply with our wonderful neighbours from Belarus and Ukraine and also welcomed till 2020 over 1 mln refugees and our dear friends from the war torn Ukraine.British media should scrutinise the Tories
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24/03/2021 15:02:34 1 2
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Okay troll
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24/03/2021 15:09:29 0 0
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Those crossing the channel to illegally enter the U.K. have already traveled through multiple safe countries.

If the U.K. is so bad why do so many wish to come here ?
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24/03/2021 15:11:46 0 0
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I also have relations with Poland and you need the Ukrainians (I am one) as so many good Polish workers have left to work elsewhere in part due to the ridiculous politics there - not compatible with the EU - Law and Order!!
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24/03/2021 15:16:39 0 0
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Do the maths.. because of the UK successful vaccination roll out for 65m people the EU are DEMANDING 200m doses for 50% of their 400+m population .
And you think that's Fare ...
PROTECTIONISM AND Communism.
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24/03/2021 15:20:38 0 0
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See that 30m doses of Oxford vaccine been found locked up in an Italian storage by investigators ??????????
Applorable
24/03/2021 15:59:18 0 0
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If the UK hadn't invested in the AZ vaccine there wouldn't be one. The UK is the second highest donor to the covax program with two thirds of a billion pounds worth of vaccines donated. Not one country in the EU has matched that - and the AZ jab is made on a not for profit basis. The UK invested heavily in vaccine production, and the EU refused. They also signed contracts too late.
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24/03/2021 14:54:38 943 166
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Anyone still wondering why we left the EU?....anyone?
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24/03/2021 14:59:49 53 24
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Ancient One we are finally seeing the EU showing its true colours.
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24/03/2021 14:59:49 129 6
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The EU should focus on their dispute with a Private company, part owned by one of their members.

Instead of threating innocent populations around the globe.
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24/03/2021 14:59:53 190 6
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EU "Reciprocity" = everyone needs to do as badly as us on the vaccine rollout
24/03/2021 16:49:23 60 0
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It's gonna sting if reciprocity means we halt the export of components used in the Pfiser vaccine. Not many other places have a surplus right now. Good luck finding those.
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24/03/2021 14:57:18 36 11
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Maybe we could ban the export of components for the vaccine
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24/03/2021 14:59:56 3 1
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Considering we need the Pfizer from Belgium, that would be pretty stupid, as the components are for Pfizer
24/03/2021 16:27:47 0 0
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It looks like a complete ban would set the UK back by 1 or 2 months, but Pfizer supply is already assured to make all second jabs. It doesn't look like we are reliant on the Pfizer jab as there are enough AZ on order to vaccinate the population by late Summer, but it would slow us.
If we did ban export of components, it may proportionally hit the EU more, but I think the UK will rise above that.
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24/03/2021 14:59:58 140 7
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One final time "neither the UK nor the EU export vaccines, AZ and other pharmaceutical firms do". Provided the UK don't ban exports of the vaccine which they don't then nor should the EU. To threaten to do so on the basis that other countries are more succesful at vaccinating their populations is spiteful in the extreme.

Cue the FBPE crowd to pile in with why the EU is right and the UK wrong
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24/03/2021 15:07:09 137 2
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Yes apparently they are willing to ban exports purely on the basis that other countries are running a better vaccination program.

So that would be the rest of the entire planet then.
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24/03/2021 15:12:42 0 9
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But the Oxford vaccines is sub contracted to the EU so in effect they control the distribution .
Hence the EU restricted distribution...
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24/03/2021 14:57:08 11 29
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Those vaccine export results in full:

UK: 0
EU: 10m to grateful UK citizens

I'm sure they will show their gratitude towards the EU here.
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24/03/2021 15:00:09 6 4
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Because we helped setup production plants within EU countries. How many Pfizer plants exist outside the EU?
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24/03/2021 15:17:58 0 0
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Well there are clearly some in the US as Pfizer are a US company.
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24/03/2021 15:00:16 6 20
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Let’s just rejoin quickly before we decimate our economy even further
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24/03/2021 15:02:02 3 3
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Evidence?
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24/03/2021 15:02:16 2 1
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After the EU’s actions the last few months. No thank you.
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24/03/2021 15:03:54 2 1
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A comedian in the making.
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24/03/2021 15:00:16 55 4
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How can they say that they haven’t suggested an export ban,when those very words have come out of their mouths?

The EU are practically in Australia considering the massive hole they’ve dig themselves in.
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24/03/2021 14:57:41 15 18
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So when it comes to our relationship with the EU, we don't hold all the cards? Who knew?!
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24/03/2021 15:00:17 2 1
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We do have a rather important 'ace'
The fact an important part of the pfizer vaccine is manufactured here
If the EU want to play silly so n so's, we could stop exports of that essential ingredient
Or as is likely, the UK will be the 'bigger man' & not reciprocate in a mean nasty way just because the EU are being mean & nasty to try & cover their own failings
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24/03/2021 15:00:19 149 8
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They turned down Astra-Z. They don't know what they want......political mis-management at it best.....they have the death of their own citizens on their hands.
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24/03/2021 15:18:11 8 43
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and it looks like on ours as well
SJ
24/03/2021 23:33:14 0 1
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Astra-Z breached their contract.
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24/03/2021 14:57:36 27 6
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Isn't that what the EU is all about ... holding all the capable students back so the slow coaches can try and catch up ... and if not don't allow the achievers to progress any further.

Its why the EU isn't a leader in industry or innovation ...
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24/03/2021 15:00:21 2 3
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Nicely put.
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Fug
24/03/2021 15:00:22 145 11
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I was definitely in camp remain, and still think brexit was a colossal waste of time...

But the EU are being bloody unreasonable.
24/03/2021 16:12:53 52 0
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Welcome to the party pal !
MC
24/03/2021 17:22:17 0 10
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Why is it unreasonable to do what the US, the UK and India are doing? It is unreasonable if the EU tries to take care of their people first but fine for the UK to do it? The UK embedded the UK first approach into their contracts, not the EU is finally responding. As a citizen of the EU I expect them to respond just like India has.
24/03/2021 18:10:50 3 6
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Even if we had remained in the EU we were still sovereign enough to have done just as we have now done.

No EU country was compelled to join the EU vaccine syndicate and I’m sure the UK would have still gone its own way even if it was still an EU member.
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24/03/2021 14:57:08 11 29
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Those vaccine export results in full:

UK: 0
EU: 10m to grateful UK citizens

I'm sure they will show their gratitude towards the EU here.
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24/03/2021 15:00:32 3 1
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And the components exported from the UK to manufacture Pfizer vaccines don't count in your world?
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24/03/2021 14:58:13 11 8
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I wonder if we would do any different.
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24/03/2021 15:00:34 8 3
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We did and got a better outcome.
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24/03/2021 15:00:40 74 3
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Time for the UK to become self 100% sufficient in vaccines and medicines
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24/03/2021 15:02:43 1 29
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You sink now we import a lot of our vaccines... and don't export any.
24/03/2021 17:17:17 0 0
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Sadly , i believe that ship sailed a while ago .
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24/03/2021 15:00:40 70 1
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Maybe they should use the 29 million doses that were sitting in a warehouse in Italy.
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24/03/2021 15:04:55 48 1
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Which, regardless of the fake news from Italy, have nothing to do with the U.K. supply. They are for covax and the EU itself.
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24/03/2021 14:59:19 1250 68
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I believe that the Irish Taoiseach has pointed out that the Pfizer vaccine requires 230 different parts made by 86 different companies in 19 different countries. The arrogant EU halfwits might like to bear that in mind before they convince themselves that they can control exports of anything.
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24/03/2021 15:00:50 672 14
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and a number made in the UK,
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24/03/2021 15:07:30 14 1
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At least one major component - do you need anymore?????
24/03/2021 16:08:48 2 58
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But wouldn't be unless funded by Europe. Europe released funds so the two sites in UK could install machines and go into production. UK government invested zip all.
24/03/2021 17:59:48 0 5
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Oh that is why jhonson is so desperate to stop the EU export ban. ??
The Uk is powerless
24/03/2021 18:11:43 0 0
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Don't you ever think before you type?
24/03/2021 19:56:43 0 1
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But 10 million doses exported from the EU to the UK!
24/03/2021 21:46:34 0 0
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Made in India
24/03/2021 22:30:06 0 0
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But fewer than flowing to UK from EU. Still, I'm sure we hold all the cards.
24/03/2021 23:29:59 0 0
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One ingredient, one of the vital ones, is only made in the US and UK and Us has banned export of it.
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24/03/2021 15:00:53 83 6
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EU engaging in piracy.
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24/03/2021 14:58:01 200 1643
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I think we should rejoin.

Then at least we'd be able to resume normal travel this summer and the Home Secretary wouldn't be able to bring in discriminationary immigration rules.
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24/03/2021 15:00:54 168 24
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You are most definetly not the voice of reason.
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24/03/2021 15:00:59 64 4
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The EU has so much bureaucratic red tape, by the time they figure out their own small print we'd all be vaccinated!
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24/03/2021 14:59:12 773 60
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EU punishes the UK because we got it right and they didn't, it is like dealing with children
The UK threw its toys out the pram because it didn't want to share it's island with foreigners. How childish. Removed
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24/03/2021 15:14:58 42 2
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what are you talking about - we have already shared it with 600K extra a year since the early 2000s....
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24/03/2021 15:23:42 45 5
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Not sure what you are on about Strawcat, what is the context of the remark. Toys, pram and didn't want to share......?? The UK has helped develop a World leading vaccine with AstraZeneca and sharing it with the World. The EU are the control freaks, but they fail to manage their self-sown vaccine sourcing problems.
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24/03/2021 15:25:39 30 2
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Some of us didn't appreciate the reduction in democracy and sovereignty. As for sharing with foreigners, this is a small and already too densely populated island.
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24/03/2021 15:36:00 32 5
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nope we just didn't want to be governed by the eu.
They are not a state but want full ambassador privilege's.
They muck up a vital order then start illegal acts to cover there backsides
petulant child i'd say
24/03/2021 15:41:20 8 3
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Yawn!
24/03/2021 15:46:40 13 2
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No we didn't want the dictatorship or Markel and Macron,and the rest of Europe can't see if they don't want it no one can have it.
24/03/2021 15:56:54 20 4
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As soon as restrictions on travel are eased, you should relocate to europe. You might get your vaccine by Xmas if you are lucky
24/03/2021 16:00:34 8 0
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If you read a lot of the feedback on why people voted to leave the EU, then you will note that the majority voted yes, to recover sovereignty and the ability to make and control UK laws. There was a proportion who objected to the uncontrolled immigration, but this was in the minority in comparison. Check your facts before leaving the village next time please.
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24/03/2021 16:10:44 7 1
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I joined my local club so I could be friends with others in the club as we shared the same values ... then some of the club members decided to create a committee which would tell everyone in the club what and how to do things because they knew it all ... I decided to leave the club and now those former friends are angry with me
24/03/2021 16:13:26 2 0
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If you don't like living here, you know where to go. Just tell Boris it's a one way trip, no £5k fine for you.
24/03/2021 16:15:37 3 1
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Haha, good joke.

Last time I went to London I barely anyone speak English.
24/03/2021 16:33:07 4 1
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lol. You are such a bigot. I thought modern socialists didn't like that sort of exclusivity?
24/03/2021 16:36:45 4 0
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Your a fool
24/03/2021 16:50:59 0 0
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Actually t's not true. The UK left because Cameron's attempt to get reform in the EU was laughed at by the EU. Then we left.
24/03/2021 17:02:27 0 0
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No, we share plenty. What we didn't want is spending money for a bunch of paper shufflers to make up rules for us we had no say in.
24/03/2021 17:09:47 0 2
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With the the rampant state of Covid-19 in Europe, the last thing the U.K. needs are foreigners coming here and bringing Covid-19 with them. For the present, we should prohibit ALL immigration from the EU.
24/03/2021 17:14:26 1 0
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The U.K. population consists of people from all ethnicities and cultural backgrounds. Either you are not here or you have never left your home.
24/03/2021 17:33:32 1 0
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Grow up Cat!
24/03/2021 17:42:41 1 1
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..and thank god we did ...its only the remainers who started chucking toys out of the prams ...most leavers are quite relaxed about it all
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24/03/2021 15:01:04 1 13
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Don't know why we blame the EU. Numbers are clear that UK has exported zero yet imported 10M vaccines from the EU. So this is either the fault of AstraZenica because they decided to not respect the contract or the fault of the UK for some backhanded measure to block AstraZenica exporting to the EU.
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24/03/2021 15:03:46 6 1
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Utter tosh
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24/03/2021 15:04:15 3 0
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How about the EU's fault for trashing the reputation of if the AZ vaccine plus the EU hasn't exported any vaccines, AZ and Pfizer have. Jeez how difficult is this to understand
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24/03/2021 15:08:58 1 0
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Maybe zero filled and finished, but a lot of constituents... And we don't know what it really says in the AZ contract with either the UK government or the EU, despite them publishing a redacted part of it. I suspect that in exchange for the funding put in by UK government, there is a clause that gives UK priority and EU on a 'best endeavours' basis.
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24/03/2021 15:07:35 1 0
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Weren't the 10m doses the EU exported to the UK the Pfizer vaccine produced in Belgium? I thought AZ said recently that all the UK doses (apart from a very small batch) were prduced in the UK - could be mistaken but that's what I thought I'd read
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24/03/2021 14:54:24 235 27
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Does anyone believe anything the EU says anymore ?
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24/03/2021 15:01:05 17 4
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They are politicians. Therefore they lie to save their own skins and make themselves rich. They are not better than anyone. That said the EU have finally shown their true nature by forcing a company to break a legally binding contract.
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24/03/2021 15:05:40 9 27
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They're trying to force a company to honour its legally binding contract.
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24/03/2021 15:01:09 192 17
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Don't forget an act of anti-British sabotage that came from Nicola Sturgeon - refusing to keep confidential the number of doses given to Scotland.

Hoping to get chummy with the EU - so she could beg for a future Scotland to be allowed in - she betrayed her own people and bit the hand that was feeding her

Never mind a vote of no confidence, how about a prosecution under the Official Secrets Act?
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24/03/2021 15:02:53 19 122
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Comments are becoming more and more pathetic by the day!
24/03/2021 16:13:49 3 1
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While it was not tactful to reveal how many doses they were getting at a time when AZ were not meeting EU demands. I would not have been difficult for the EU to work out roughly how many doses in total UK had received based on which groups were reaching the front of the queue and the number of people in each.
24/03/2021 18:19:42 8 0
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There are many things that Toxic Sturgeon should be prosecuted for.
24/03/2021 19:49:08 6 2
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Wonder if any ones asked her about the fact if she was with her eu chums then instead of 50% of scotlands population having been vaccinated with the first dose we would be sitting at the average eu rate of 12%.
24/03/2021 21:04:29 1 0
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this needs to be voted higher, everyone. She has likely cost British lives just to help her career.
25/03/2021 02:13:43 0 0
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She's forgotten all about that, by now.
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24/03/2021 15:01:23 170 5
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All they're doing is destroying their reputation to try and cover up their incompetence. Why would any business want to set up in the EU if they can arbitrarily steal products that you have contracted to another country, and keep them for themselves?
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24/03/2021 15:21:14 93 7
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Quite. It is a direct take from the 'Book Of Corbyn' and look what happen to him.
24/03/2021 16:33:58 0 11
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And how is it that the UK treats it neighbours? This is a special situation and it makes little sence that no vaccenes are exported to the EU that signed its contract before the UK
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24/03/2021 14:57:41 15 18
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So when it comes to our relationship with the EU, we don't hold all the cards? Who knew?!
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24/03/2021 15:01:23 1 0
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You've been in lockdown too long. The UK holds a strong hand of cards including a couple of aces. The EU can't make vaccines without items produces in the UK that are being exported to the EU.
Cut of the raw materials we produce and the EU (and us) are totally screwed.
They depend more on us than we do on them.
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24/03/2021 14:52:51 1257 161
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& still they - the EU - struggle to understand why we got the hell out of there.....
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24/03/2021 15:01:26 55 242
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The sensible people in the UK didn't want out .. only the Tory little Englanders
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24/03/2021 15:05:22 31 79
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They're particularly angry today because the Express is running an anti-BBC story. Hence the swarm of them here.
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24/03/2021 15:08:24 40 8
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"only the Tory little Englanders"

That's why remain lost & will continue to lose, still blind to the facts, blinkered by their own hate

Brexit was & is across the political spectrum
> 37% Lab, 31% Lib, even 25% greens all voted brexit
It wasn't even a con supporters majority when you look at the totals from supporters of different politics to the Cons
Only 58% of Con supporters voted for it
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24/03/2021 15:08:54 19 3
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All 17 million of them???
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24/03/2021 15:09:12 28 3
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This isn't a brexit issue because we are out did nobody tell you?
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24/03/2021 15:09:58 27 5
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You clearly didn’t study the demographic of the people who voted leave. Better to make an educated comment or don’t comment.
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24/03/2021 15:10:23 31 2
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How many Labour seats were lost on the back of their EU indifference? When will you learn?
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24/03/2021 15:15:16 13 1
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Think you will find a lot of Labour voters. Voted leave, hence why Labour lost all those seats in the GE
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24/03/2021 14:57:08 11 29
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Those vaccine export results in full:

UK: 0
EU: 10m to grateful UK citizens

I'm sure they will show their gratitude towards the EU here.
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24/03/2021 15:01:27 3 1
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How about Pfizer vaccine, none of which could be produced without exports from the UK, this is a very simplistic view
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24/03/2021 15:01:28 2 7
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The EU hasn't handled this well but AstraZeneca is not sticking to the contract and playing games.
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24/03/2021 15:01:39 1 3
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Given that the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is being sold as a wholly British success story by the government, the EU banning exports should affect us one jot.

Or is it not wholly British after all?
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24/03/2021 15:05:06 1 0
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Quite a few Pfizer vaccines are imported from the EU
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24/03/2021 15:01:40 28 0
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Clearly EU objective is to ensure no other country appears to be doing better than them. If UK exports 10 million AZ doses to EU and EU exports 10 million to UK the net result is 0 so what is the point. UK is exporting Covid vaccine ingredients from Croda sites in UK to Pfizer in various EU sites to make their vaccine.
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24/03/2021 14:57:43 2 0
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Indefensible.
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24/03/2021 14:57:53 45 3
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This behaviour shows exactly why the UK left the EU.

Is this the beginning of the end of the EU? Watch this space!
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24/03/2021 15:27:01 19 0
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I live in hope...my money is on 1 of the med countries who have been shafted in recent times or one of the Eastern block groups, especially when the central funding starts to dry up and DE/FR start hoarding even more
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24/03/2021 15:28:05 0 2
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EU Leadership needs to change its attitude and get EU put right because UK needs EU just as much as UK needs EU for trade and prosperity and food.