Government's levelling up plans 'need total reorientation'
23/03/2021 | news | business | 143
The Industrial Strategy Council says the government's plans to "level up" regions are flawed.
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23/03/2021 14:09:20 5 3
bbc
If this government has proved anything to me it's that politicians live in a world of make-believe, live a far cry from the daily struggles of Joe Public and will say anything for a vote.

I gave up on politics in 2016, didn't vote in 2929 and certainly don't intend to vote for any of the appalling shower we have for politicians in this country (whatever the colour of their rosette) ever again.
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23/03/2021 14:12:29 6 4
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If the current government has proved anything to me it's that politicians live in a world of make-believe, a far cry from the daily struggles of Joe Public and will say anything for a vote.

I gave up on politics in 2016, didn't vote in 2020 and don't intend to vote for any of the appalling shower we have in Westminster (no matter what party they represent) ever again.
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23/03/2021 20:04:25 0 0
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No. That means the appalling shower get away with it. Vote even if you spoil your paper. just put "none of the above".
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23/03/2021 14:22:34 13 2
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All I read about at the moment is about industries caving in: fishery, agriculture, finance or small- and medium sized exporters.
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23/03/2021 16:56:57 12 1
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No doubt the ToryBots on here will tell us everything is going swimmingly from their warm seats in Conservative Central Office.
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23/03/2021 21:52:40 1 0
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How have you missed hospitality and tourism?
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23/03/2021 14:32:34 18 4
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Let's play HYS bingo, points for the following:

U-turn.
Brexit.
HS2.
WW2.
Sausage rolls.
EU.
Lockdown.
Scotland.

Alternatively I could comment on how little scrutiny was given to the private covid contracts awarded to pals of certain politicians..
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23/03/2021 16:17:09 11 2
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Indeed.

.... and politicians who are accused of breaking the ministerial code should face equal scrutiny, unlike the recent case in Scotland (where the code had not actually been broken) when compared to the free passes issued to ministers and the PM in Westminster.
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23/03/2021 14:36:31 7 2
bbc
Is there a `leveling-up' strategy? All we hear are the usual load of empty assertions in which any policy is badged as `leveling-up'.

The need for strategic industries to sustain society during future crises is more than evident. Surely such manufacturing could be located in the depressed parts of the country. It will require investment, factories, machinery and training. Why not?
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23/03/2021 15:22:40 2 1
bbc
Why not indeed!
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23/03/2021 14:53:32 2 2
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"The government said its new Plan for Growth would drive economic growth."

I wonder if we will have a Northern Powerhouse ...
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23/03/2021 16:17:30 2 0
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It does but will finish at watford gap service station.
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23/03/2021 15:02:46 2 5
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"Levelling" is more likely to drag down successful regions! If we're to improve the UK across the board we need to reorganise "Local" Regions & extend the devolution model. Current Local Councils are not up to the task - as per Liverpool!
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23/03/2021 16:48:28 0 0
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I take your point about councils but the devolution model has been very divisive.
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23/03/2021 15:07:21 5 1
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The idea the Johnson's government will 'level up ' the economy is preposterous. Inequality has been increasing for years and is only set to get worse. The reason for this is simple, he has no 'new ideas' all he can do is repeat the policies of his predecessors only this time 'doing it better.' People need to wake up and demand real change - which BTW will not come from Starmer either!
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23/03/2021 15:32:59 2 2
bbc
We had our chance with Corbyn but chose to believe the lies and slanders.

It didn't help that Corbyn wasn't allowed to keep his promise to respect the Brexit vote (which he wanted to do) by Labour MPs representing remain constituencies.
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23/03/2021 15:08:57 3 1
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Keep changing any experts so thay can't point out the lack of progress on the last strategy whilst you re-brand the re-hash. Strategies take time and persistence, the new initiatives are spread so they can respond to point issues with a media soundbite of saying we allocated a couple of million to fix it.
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23/03/2021 15:12:23 22 3
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'Levelling up' means about as much as 'we're all in it together'.
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23/03/2021 15:29:40 14 1
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I strongly suspect you are right.
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P2
23/03/2021 16:43:54 5 1
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Filed with northern powerhouse....
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23/03/2021 19:47:51 4 1
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And helping "hard working families"
'arf! 'arf!!
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23/03/2021 22:08:02 2 0
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Its been misquoted. They aren't levelling up the North. They are levelling the North. It's part of a project started in 1979 temporarily stopped by Brexit and Covid.
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23/03/2021 15:13:56 2 1
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The Governments notion of infrastructure investing, as a way to level up, will take decades. Voters will not wait that long. However, they have been offered a solution by Covid, which would bring rapid improvements for the English and Welsh regions within this parliament. Our young no longer need to leave for a decent job in London, as they can now work from home.
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23/03/2021 15:28:41 2 0
bbc
Infrastructure investing is what is needed, and it need not take decades to achieve. What we will desperately need because of CV19 and Brexit is a massive jobs' creation project.

It will need to be akin to what the Labour Government did after WW2. In 1956 MacMillan said we had never had it so good, which was probably a little patronising to those still living in slums.
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23/03/2021 15:14:16 31 6
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Which party has been in power the most since World War 2, has created the climate where these disparities exist, and which over saw the Industrial Collapse in the north during the 1980s? The Conservatives of course. Got to give it to them, they create the problem, then manage to con people into thinking that they'll fix it.
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23/03/2021 16:30:45 7 6
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Yes mad Maggie
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23/03/2021 20:48:07 0 2
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What exactly did Labour do in the 90s?
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23/03/2021 14:36:31 7 2
bbc
Is there a `leveling-up' strategy? All we hear are the usual load of empty assertions in which any policy is badged as `leveling-up'.

The need for strategic industries to sustain society during future crises is more than evident. Surely such manufacturing could be located in the depressed parts of the country. It will require investment, factories, machinery and training. Why not?
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23/03/2021 15:22:40 2 1
bbc
Why not indeed!
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23/03/2021 15:13:56 2 1
bbc
The Governments notion of infrastructure investing, as a way to level up, will take decades. Voters will not wait that long. However, they have been offered a solution by Covid, which would bring rapid improvements for the English and Welsh regions within this parliament. Our young no longer need to leave for a decent job in London, as they can now work from home.
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23/03/2021 15:28:41 2 0
bbc
Infrastructure investing is what is needed, and it need not take decades to achieve. What we will desperately need because of CV19 and Brexit is a massive jobs' creation project.

It will need to be akin to what the Labour Government did after WW2. In 1956 MacMillan said we had never had it so good, which was probably a little patronising to those still living in slums.
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23/03/2021 15:28:54 6 1
bbc
Infrastructure investing is what is needed, and it need not take decades to achieve. What we will desperately need because of CV19 and Brexit is a massive jobs' creation project.

It will need to be akin to what the Labour Government did after WW2. In 1956 MacMillan said we had never had it so good, which was probably a little patronising to those still living in slums.
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23/03/2021 15:52:33 2 3
bbc
Only idiots would vote this down!
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23/03/2021 15:12:23 22 3
bbc
'Levelling up' means about as much as 'we're all in it together'.
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23/03/2021 15:29:40 14 1
bbc
I strongly suspect you are right.
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I wouldn't bother levelling up especially the north apart from Cheshire where the brains and money are.
Other wise don't bother
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This comment is deliberately offensive to the people of the north, but the moderators removed a comment attacking the poster and left the original offensive post.

You have to laugh at the stupidity of the moderators!
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23/03/2021 16:13:47 2 0
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Funny people are often the most clever. You are not in the slightest funny.
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23/03/2021 16:43:49 0 0
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Negative comment. Why bother to post it?
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23/03/2021 16:45:40 0 0
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Can't be so daft - never voted for your namesake.
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23/03/2021 15:32:43 13 3
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Levelling up? Where does HS2 start? Crossrail, Heathrow expansion and Lower Thames Crossing. Connection? Everyone knows who will benefit from those infrastructure projects. Meanwhile another government drip feeds pennies to the grossly underfunded areas outside of the M25. Are you over sixty years of age but still waiting for your free 'bus pass? Live in London and you get one at age 60. So fair!
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Pip
23/03/2021 15:57:40 7 1
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It also gives free National Rail, Underground, River Services, etc. in 'London', but not elsewhere in the country............?
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23/03/2021 16:42:20 1 3
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Scotland is the best place for freebies, but the Scots don't pay for them.
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23/03/2021 15:07:21 5 1
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The idea the Johnson's government will 'level up ' the economy is preposterous. Inequality has been increasing for years and is only set to get worse. The reason for this is simple, he has no 'new ideas' all he can do is repeat the policies of his predecessors only this time 'doing it better.' People need to wake up and demand real change - which BTW will not come from Starmer either!
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23/03/2021 15:32:59 2 2
bbc
We had our chance with Corbyn but chose to believe the lies and slanders.

It didn't help that Corbyn wasn't allowed to keep his promise to respect the Brexit vote (which he wanted to do) by Labour MPs representing remain constituencies.
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23/03/2021 16:47:20 0 1
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Thank God we did not elect Corbyn. It doesn't bear thinking about.
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23/03/2021 19:48:54 0 0
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Then he shouldn't have been 'leader'....
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23/03/2021 15:33:01 3 11
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If Boris is going to level up, make sure it's with the sensible Tory councils who know how to make it work, and ignore the unions.
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23/03/2021 15:49:34 6 3
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LOL
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23/03/2021 15:45:36 18 5
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'Levelling Up', 'Build back better' these are not real as they were not emblazoned on the side of a bus. Seriously though there is no intention to 'level up' and never was, those who believed this were foolish. Boris and his chums are beholden to their future paymasters and not many of them reside in the North.
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23/03/2021 16:41:02 2 16
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The usual socialist malice and ignorance. Of course everyone who disagrees with you is 'foolish'.
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23/03/2021 20:53:03 0 2
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More chance under the Tories than under Labour. Feel free to come and see the wasteland that is Stoke to see exactly what Labour left behind.
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23/03/2021 15:33:01 3 11
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If Boris is going to level up, make sure it's with the sensible Tory councils who know how to make it work, and ignore the unions.
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23/03/2021 15:49:34 6 3
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LOL
I wouldn't bother levelling up especially the north apart from Cheshire where the brains and money are.
Other wise don't bother
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This comment is deliberately offensive to the people of the north, but the moderators removed a comment attacking the poster and left the original offensive post.

You have to laugh at the stupidity of the moderators!
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23/03/2021 15:28:54 6 1
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Infrastructure investing is what is needed, and it need not take decades to achieve. What we will desperately need because of CV19 and Brexit is a massive jobs' creation project.

It will need to be akin to what the Labour Government did after WW2. In 1956 MacMillan said we had never had it so good, which was probably a little patronising to those still living in slums.
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23/03/2021 15:52:33 2 3
bbc
Only idiots would vote this down!
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23/03/2021 15:32:43 13 3
bbc
Levelling up? Where does HS2 start? Crossrail, Heathrow expansion and Lower Thames Crossing. Connection? Everyone knows who will benefit from those infrastructure projects. Meanwhile another government drip feeds pennies to the grossly underfunded areas outside of the M25. Are you over sixty years of age but still waiting for your free 'bus pass? Live in London and you get one at age 60. So fair!
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Pip
23/03/2021 15:57:40 7 1
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It also gives free National Rail, Underground, River Services, etc. in 'London', but not elsewhere in the country............?
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23/03/2021 16:09:40 7 2
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If the Plan and the execution of it is as dire as I am experiencing with the Green Homes Grant Scheme then it's going to fail
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23/03/2021 16:10:15 14 2
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Levelling up is about as real as
Building Affordable Homes (still 0)
Santa
Easter Bunny &
The Tooth Fairy

A typical announcement about the commitment "Levelling Up" was a month or 2 ago on railines where 96%+ was heading for the very deprived Oxford / Cambridge Area and the 3%+ was Blyth. Still better than the usual 0% I suppose.
Moan, whinge, complain. Removed
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23/03/2021 16:11:37 3 10
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Boris has made a start at closing the gap between countries and regions. No plan will be perfect but lets give him a chance. No point being miserable listening to the usual partisan claptrap you get on this channel.
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23/03/2021 16:38:37 0 7
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I agree, but you will get downvoted by the BBC lefties and Remoaners if you make pro-government or even neutral comments on this forum.
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23/03/2021 16:11:46 24 7
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It seems so far that levelling up means spending more money in Tory held northern seats than in others. Can't think why.
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23/03/2021 16:36:41 5 20
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You can't think why because it isn't true.
I wouldn't bother levelling up especially the north apart from Cheshire where the brains and money are.
Other wise don't bother
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23/03/2021 16:13:47 2 0
bbc
Funny people are often the most clever. You are not in the slightest funny.
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23/03/2021 14:32:34 18 4
bbc
Let's play HYS bingo, points for the following:

U-turn.
Brexit.
HS2.
WW2.
Sausage rolls.
EU.
Lockdown.
Scotland.

Alternatively I could comment on how little scrutiny was given to the private covid contracts awarded to pals of certain politicians..
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23/03/2021 16:17:09 11 2
bbc
Indeed.

.... and politicians who are accused of breaking the ministerial code should face equal scrutiny, unlike the recent case in Scotland (where the code had not actually been broken) when compared to the free passes issued to ministers and the PM in Westminster.
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23/03/2021 14:53:32 2 2
bbc
"The government said its new Plan for Growth would drive economic growth."

I wonder if we will have a Northern Powerhouse ...
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23/03/2021 16:17:30 2 0
bbc
It does but will finish at watford gap service station.
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23/03/2021 16:22:54 2 7
bbc
You can see why the Industrial Strategy Council is being disbanded.
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23/03/2021 16:45:53 6 0
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Yes. If they start throwing a light on government's fake political schemes they will be toast.
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23/03/2021 16:25:36 10 1
bbc
Move all government out of London
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23/03/2021 17:01:46 7 0
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Hear! Hear! And let us have a proper, civilised, debating chamber instead of that commons cockpit of confrontation which is costing a fortune to refurbish.
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23/03/2021 17:07:10 5 0
bbc
Ahhh, but London is the home of the Gravy Train. Round and round the Circle Line all day long. Which minister wants to 'work' in the Midlands, or Cornwall?
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23/03/2021 16:27:21 2 0
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I find the levelling up agenda very ironic. I am cramped into a terrace in London while my wife's Northern family are rolling it. No mortgage for them on a large 4 bed house, cheaper restaurants and cheaper private school fees. If you have a public sector job in the North, you are doing great, job for life and cheap living costs. Only way to level up is to improve education.
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23/03/2021 16:43:28 4 0
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Education up here in the North is just fine, but they don't stay after university. London is a magnet. And yes, if you have money here, it goes a lot further.
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23/03/2021 20:15:12 0 0
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Simple solution. Move north. If you don't want to, stop complaining. Your choice.
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23/03/2021 15:14:16 31 6
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Which party has been in power the most since World War 2, has created the climate where these disparities exist, and which over saw the Industrial Collapse in the north during the 1980s? The Conservatives of course. Got to give it to them, they create the problem, then manage to con people into thinking that they'll fix it.
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23/03/2021 16:30:45 7 6
bbc
Yes mad Maggie
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23/03/2021 16:25:02 6 3
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Boris,
Go where the money is, and that's in Tory areas.
Throw a few pebbles, and you won't find it in Liverpool, that's for sure
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23/03/2021 16:11:46 24 7
bbc
It seems so far that levelling up means spending more money in Tory held northern seats than in others. Can't think why.
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23/03/2021 16:36:41 5 20
bbc
You can't think why because it isn't true.
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23/03/2021 20:09:35 7 1
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Lol. Remind me of the proportion of tory held seats that were given grants recently. 40 out of 45? Not sure what your definition of true is, but mine follows the facts.
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24/03/2021 14:50:11 0 0
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Why do you always try to pull the wool over peoples eyes?
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23/03/2021 16:11:37 3 10
bbc
Boris has made a start at closing the gap between countries and regions. No plan will be perfect but lets give him a chance. No point being miserable listening to the usual partisan claptrap you get on this channel.
40
23/03/2021 16:38:37 0 7
bbc
I agree, but you will get downvoted by the BBC lefties and Remoaners if you make pro-government or even neutral comments on this forum.
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23/03/2021 16:10:15 14 2
bbc
Levelling up is about as real as
Building Affordable Homes (still 0)
Santa
Easter Bunny &
The Tooth Fairy

A typical announcement about the commitment "Levelling Up" was a month or 2 ago on railines where 96%+ was heading for the very deprived Oxford / Cambridge Area and the 3%+ was Blyth. Still better than the usual 0% I suppose.
Moan, whinge, complain. Removed
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23/03/2021 20:13:08 2 0
bbc
Ignore. Deflect. Blame. Insult.
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23/03/2021 15:45:36 18 5
bbc
'Levelling Up', 'Build back better' these are not real as they were not emblazoned on the side of a bus. Seriously though there is no intention to 'level up' and never was, those who believed this were foolish. Boris and his chums are beholden to their future paymasters and not many of them reside in the North.
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23/03/2021 16:41:02 2 16
bbc
The usual socialist malice and ignorance. Of course everyone who disagrees with you is 'foolish'.
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23/03/2021 19:44:58 1 0
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They usually are....at best.
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23/03/2021 20:12:49 5 0
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What proportion of the last year's emergency non-tendered contracts went to Tory friends. Enough that the NAO and the Public Accounts Committee are both unimpressed. But hey, you keep up with the silly comments, people need a laugh right now.
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24/03/2021 17:24:42 0 0
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Socialism and Remoaners. Useless words which have no place in honest discussion. Do you know farmers are paid subsidies by governments?
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23/03/2021 16:41:39 4 1
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Decades of the graduates from the North moving south for better jobs and opportunities has left its mark. It has stripped the North of its future and left a spiral of decline.
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23/03/2021 15:32:43 13 3
bbc
Levelling up? Where does HS2 start? Crossrail, Heathrow expansion and Lower Thames Crossing. Connection? Everyone knows who will benefit from those infrastructure projects. Meanwhile another government drip feeds pennies to the grossly underfunded areas outside of the M25. Are you over sixty years of age but still waiting for your free 'bus pass? Live in London and you get one at age 60. So fair!
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23/03/2021 16:42:20 1 3
bbc
Scotland is the best place for freebies, but the Scots don't pay for them.
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23/03/2021 16:27:21 2 0
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I find the levelling up agenda very ironic. I am cramped into a terrace in London while my wife's Northern family are rolling it. No mortgage for them on a large 4 bed house, cheaper restaurants and cheaper private school fees. If you have a public sector job in the North, you are doing great, job for life and cheap living costs. Only way to level up is to improve education.
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23/03/2021 16:43:28 4 0
bbc
Education up here in the North is just fine, but they don't stay after university. London is a magnet. And yes, if you have money here, it goes a lot further.
I wouldn't bother levelling up especially the north apart from Cheshire where the brains and money are.
Other wise don't bother
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23/03/2021 16:43:49 0 0
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Negative comment. Why bother to post it?
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23/03/2021 15:12:23 22 3
bbc
'Levelling up' means about as much as 'we're all in it together'.
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P2
23/03/2021 16:43:54 5 1
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Filed with northern powerhouse....
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23/03/2021 16:44:00 9 1
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The ISC should realise that this is a political gimmick, it isn't real.
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23/03/2021 16:58:48 5 0
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Like the Green Homes Grant scheme
I wouldn't bother levelling up especially the north apart from Cheshire where the brains and money are.
Other wise don't bother
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23/03/2021 16:45:40 0 0
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Can't be so daft - never voted for your namesake.
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23/03/2021 16:22:54 2 7
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You can see why the Industrial Strategy Council is being disbanded.
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23/03/2021 16:45:53 6 0
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Yes. If they start throwing a light on government's fake political schemes they will be toast.
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23/03/2021 16:47:04 12 2
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To improve the north bin HS2 and invest in today's roads and railways.

Practical infrastructure not vanity projects
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23/03/2021 18:29:31 1 8
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HS2 is practical infrastructure. Very expensive, yes, but it will have considerable benefits to Northern towns and cities, both directly (e.g. travel times) and indirectly - employment and development resulting from the project.
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23/03/2021 18:40:18 0 1
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Do you mean the roads that the environmental agitators and tree huggers dont want either? Improving the roads to a level that would be needed would cost a lot more than HS2 and result in even more harm. Wise up.
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23/03/2021 15:32:59 2 2
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We had our chance with Corbyn but chose to believe the lies and slanders.

It didn't help that Corbyn wasn't allowed to keep his promise to respect the Brexit vote (which he wanted to do) by Labour MPs representing remain constituencies.
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23/03/2021 16:47:20 0 1
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Thank God we did not elect Corbyn. It doesn't bear thinking about.
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23/03/2021 16:47:49 24 2
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Strong and stable, unleash Britain's potential, Britain deserves better, all in it together, oven ready brexit deal, take back control, open for business...

All meaningless, vacuous phrases selected to con those incapable of critical thinking.
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23/03/2021 20:17:16 2 1
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Levelling up mean levelling up.
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24/03/2021 17:18:03 0 0
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Which goes to show the poor level of education in this country. Include economics and philosophy in curricula. Encourage discussion and political systems.
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23/03/2021 15:02:46 2 5
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"Levelling" is more likely to drag down successful regions! If we're to improve the UK across the board we need to reorganise "Local" Regions & extend the devolution model. Current Local Councils are not up to the task - as per Liverpool!
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23/03/2021 16:48:28 0 0
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I take your point about councils but the devolution model has been very divisive.
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23/03/2021 16:51:25 23 2
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15:33Corbyn 19

If Boris is going to level up, make sure it's with the sensible Tory councils who know how to make it work, and ignore the unions.

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Haha, like the bankrupt tory run Northamptonshire Council that had to be bailed out by the government you mean? ??
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:37:21 2 11
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Better than Liverpool where the council could be going to jail. Incompetance is one thing criminality another.
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23/03/2021 18:38:43 1 6
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Or you could have Liverpool Council! That went well.....again. Labour cant run a bath successfully.
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23/03/2021 14:22:34 13 2
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All I read about at the moment is about industries caving in: fishery, agriculture, finance or small- and medium sized exporters.
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23/03/2021 16:56:57 12 1
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No doubt the ToryBots on here will tell us everything is going swimmingly from their warm seats in Conservative Central Office.
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23/03/2021 16:44:00 9 1
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The ISC should realise that this is a political gimmick, it isn't real.
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23/03/2021 16:58:48 5 0
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Like the Green Homes Grant scheme
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23/03/2021 16:25:36 10 1
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Move all government out of London
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23/03/2021 17:01:46 7 0
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Hear! Hear! And let us have a proper, civilised, debating chamber instead of that commons cockpit of confrontation which is costing a fortune to refurbish.
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23/03/2021 18:41:22 0 0
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Here here even.
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23/03/2021 16:25:36 10 1
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Move all government out of London
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23/03/2021 17:07:10 5 0
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Ahhh, but London is the home of the Gravy Train. Round and round the Circle Line all day long. Which minister wants to 'work' in the Midlands, or Cornwall?
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23/03/2021 17:07:31 10 1
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Hope it goes better than Georgie's Northern Power House....
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23/03/2021 17:08:51 10 2
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When I make a snipe at the Govt people think I'm a lefty socialist. I could not be further from it. What does my head in is THIS Tory Govt is behaving like a socialist Government Far too many handouts to people that DON'T NEED handouts
Nor do I trust them - levelling up is a political whim - as is the Green Homes Govt Grant scheme, which is frankly 'shambolic' - six year olds could do better
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:36:00 2 2
bbc
Its a bit like the two guys being chased by a leopard; one puts his running shoes on. The other says you cannot outrun a leopard. He replies that he need only outrun him not the leopard. Boris can count on your vote.
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23/03/2021 17:18:24 16 1
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There is no levelling up, it’s just words - have people not actually realised that yet?
If folks in the north believed that new industries and businesses of the future we going to set up new HQs in Stockton, Doncaster, Rochdale or Burnley then they need their bumps felt.
The UK has poor infrastructure, poor education, poor housing & a population with a myriad of drink, drugs & mental problems.
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23/03/2021 17:34:08 4 1
bbc
Really looking forward to my staycation now....
Hence the new Labour Party slogan: "Britain is awful, you people are all scum" Removed
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24/03/2021 17:21:22 0 0
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And a too great population density.
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23/03/2021 17:22:06 2 0
bbc
However, the Industrial Strategy Council (ISC) said, the government's Plan for Growth, which was released alongside the Budget, was "over reliant on infrastructure spending".

Exactly it assumes that the problem is merely connectivity.
The very same caveat appears in reports on the economic impact of HS2
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23/03/2021 17:26:43 8 0
bbc
Johnson is looking at the next general election and will say what it takes to appease the public ,north and south. E.g re money for NHS, what was said recently by Johnson and co was’ Vote for us, if we win, we'll put in lots into the NHS.’ Well , similarly, e.g. if we get back into power, we’ll level up.’ I’m convinced Johnson doesn’t know what levelling up is!
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23/03/2021 18:37:30 1 10
bbc
I think Boris could say pretty much what he wanted. The fact is the majority realise that a socialist/pseudo Marxist government (and thats what we would get.....Momentum are still pulling the strings) would wreck the UK. Until Labour get rid of the militants (and that will require break up of the party), they have zero chance of power. When they split, they will have even less.
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23/03/2021 17:33:03 5 5
bbc
You can only level up and create new business in areas where the people are prepared to work on minimum wage jobs.

This is the reason so many Eastern Europeans came here over the last 20 years to do the jobs that Brits did not want to do.

Brits in the UK are more prepared to go on UC than do any manual labour job and this is a fact.
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23/03/2021 18:11:16 3 1
bbc
Ignorant .. Even right wing USA has realised the Globalists had corrupted Capitalism (dtopped floating all boats and profiteered off cheap Labour) ... The USA has £12.00 min wage by 2025 in legislation ... If you so ignorant of what has been done to wages and living standards please dont comment..
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23/03/2021 18:35:06 0 1
bbc
We are too soft with benefits for the feckless thats why! Allowing anyone from anywhere else to come into the country to do a basic manual labour job whilst we pay our own to sit at home on their backsides is stupid thing to do. Its like paying someone to come and walk your dog and do the dishes whilst your kids sit on their backsides playing Xbox.....when you are already skint!
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23/03/2021 17:18:24 16 1
bbc
There is no levelling up, it’s just words - have people not actually realised that yet?
If folks in the north believed that new industries and businesses of the future we going to set up new HQs in Stockton, Doncaster, Rochdale or Burnley then they need their bumps felt.
The UK has poor infrastructure, poor education, poor housing & a population with a myriad of drink, drugs & mental problems.
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23/03/2021 17:34:08 4 1
bbc
Really looking forward to my staycation now....
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23/03/2021 17:33:03 5 5
bbc
You can only level up and create new business in areas where the people are prepared to work on minimum wage jobs.

This is the reason so many Eastern Europeans came here over the last 20 years to do the jobs that Brits did not want to do.

Brits in the UK are more prepared to go on UC than do any manual labour job and this is a fact.
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23/03/2021 18:11:16 3 1
bbc
Ignorant .. Even right wing USA has realised the Globalists had corrupted Capitalism (dtopped floating all boats and profiteered off cheap Labour) ... The USA has £12.00 min wage by 2025 in legislation ... If you so ignorant of what has been done to wages and living standards please dont comment..
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23/03/2021 18:31:29 0 2
bbc
Thats coz the President is a massive leftie
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23/03/2021 18:15:28 3 1
bbc
Lets level up at the 2024 Election .. USA policies on Min wage and Child Support now Embarass the Tory Ideology of sweatshop / Tenant , no hope Britain. Aspiration and Opportunity killers ..
How did the people let them do this after 2008 ?
2024 is time to level up the Labour and Tory MP numbers. Rebuild the Red Wall as no party could allow more people into the Country or more loss of Green Space.
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23/03/2021 18:30:45 0 6
bbc
USA have generous policies on min wage etc because they are now controlled by a hard core left wing Socialist President. I pity the Americans i really do. The well off and big earners will soon be leaving in droves.
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:44:28 0 3
bbc
Good to see that only 199 MPs take the Labour party whip now. Down four since the election. Alan Hall resigned due to the tribunal. Apsana Begum and Claudia Webbe are awaiting trial and then there is that pariah Corbyn. Poor Kerry Stammered he hasn't got a chance.
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23/03/2021 18:12:04 12 2
bbc
The day normal people are levelled up to the wealth enjoyed by Government cronies, tax dodgers etc, will be the day Brexit unicorns fly in on golden geese
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SCRAPPED TALKING SHOP OF "GREAT AND GOOD" CRITICAL OF SCRAPPER.
Oh come on Faisal why have you omitted to mention that the ISC has been Scrapped by Boris and replaced with https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/968403/PfG_Final_Web_Accessible_Version.pdf
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23/03/2021 18:28:44 0 5
bbc
I hope levelling up doesnt translate into taking away the incentive to work hard for those people who are minded to do so, to give to the feckless.
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23/03/2021 18:59:18 4 0
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people on UC work harder than you John ....
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23/03/2021 20:23:42 0 0
bbc
Unless you're a hippy living in a field growing all your own food and growing wood for fuel, anything you earn requires building on the work of others. You want hospitals to be there, you want roads to be there. And police. Fire service. But for some reason don't want to pay for it.
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23/03/2021 16:47:04 12 2
bbc
To improve the north bin HS2 and invest in today's roads and railways.

Practical infrastructure not vanity projects
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23/03/2021 18:29:31 1 8
bbc
HS2 is practical infrastructure. Very expensive, yes, but it will have considerable benefits to Northern towns and cities, both directly (e.g. travel times) and indirectly - employment and development resulting from the project.
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23/03/2021 19:42:01 1 0
bbc
It'll never happen beyond Birmingham - and nor should it
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23/03/2021 20:16:52 1 0
bbc
Rubbish. The original economic justification just doesn't exist (time travelling by train is lost business time). It's only purpose is to make the commuter belt larger.
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23/03/2021 18:15:28 3 1
bbc
Lets level up at the 2024 Election .. USA policies on Min wage and Child Support now Embarass the Tory Ideology of sweatshop / Tenant , no hope Britain. Aspiration and Opportunity killers ..
How did the people let them do this after 2008 ?
2024 is time to level up the Labour and Tory MP numbers. Rebuild the Red Wall as no party could allow more people into the Country or more loss of Green Space.
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23/03/2021 18:30:45 0 6
bbc
USA have generous policies on min wage etc because they are now controlled by a hard core left wing Socialist President. I pity the Americans i really do. The well off and big earners will soon be leaving in droves.
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23/03/2021 19:37:47 3 0
bbc
On what grounds do you name yourself as you do?
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23/03/2021 19:43:22 1 0
bbc
Left wing ????? Biden would be drummed out of the ERG for being too radical.
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23/03/2021 20:21:03 1 0
bbc
Lol. Hard core left.
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23/03/2021 21:17:37 2 0
bbc
You wouldn't recognise a "hard core left wing socialist" if they set about you with a chainsaw. If Biden is a socialists what does that make Angela Merkel (who is a conservative by the way).

Try not to let your ignorance be too obvious.
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23/03/2021 18:11:16 3 1
bbc
Ignorant .. Even right wing USA has realised the Globalists had corrupted Capitalism (dtopped floating all boats and profiteered off cheap Labour) ... The USA has £12.00 min wage by 2025 in legislation ... If you so ignorant of what has been done to wages and living standards please dont comment..
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23/03/2021 18:31:29 0 2
bbc
Thats coz the President is a massive leftie
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23/03/2021 17:18:24 16 1
bbc
There is no levelling up, it’s just words - have people not actually realised that yet?
If folks in the north believed that new industries and businesses of the future we going to set up new HQs in Stockton, Doncaster, Rochdale or Burnley then they need their bumps felt.
The UK has poor infrastructure, poor education, poor housing & a population with a myriad of drink, drugs & mental problems.
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PWG
bbc
Hence the new Labour Party slogan: "Britain is awful, you people are all scum" Removed
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23/03/2021 18:35:00 9 2
bbc
Johnson and his Government's levelling up plans were very clear in February 2020 when they all took special time to vote against robust measures being introduced to stop Tax Avoidance and Evasion. Their idea of level up, 1% for nurses, Billons to Tax avoiders evaders and tory party donors.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/divisions/pw-2020-02-25-35-commons/mp/10426
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23/03/2021 17:33:03 5 5
bbc
You can only level up and create new business in areas where the people are prepared to work on minimum wage jobs.

This is the reason so many Eastern Europeans came here over the last 20 years to do the jobs that Brits did not want to do.

Brits in the UK are more prepared to go on UC than do any manual labour job and this is a fact.
77
23/03/2021 18:35:06 0 1
bbc
We are too soft with benefits for the feckless thats why! Allowing anyone from anywhere else to come into the country to do a basic manual labour job whilst we pay our own to sit at home on their backsides is stupid thing to do. Its like paying someone to come and walk your dog and do the dishes whilst your kids sit on their backsides playing Xbox.....when you are already skint!
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23/03/2021 17:08:51 10 2
bbc
When I make a snipe at the Govt people think I'm a lefty socialist. I could not be further from it. What does my head in is THIS Tory Govt is behaving like a socialist Government Far too many handouts to people that DON'T NEED handouts
Nor do I trust them - levelling up is a political whim - as is the Green Homes Govt Grant scheme, which is frankly 'shambolic' - six year olds could do better
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:36:00 2 2
bbc
Its a bit like the two guys being chased by a leopard; one puts his running shoes on. The other says you cannot outrun a leopard. He replies that he need only outrun him not the leopard. Boris can count on your vote.
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23/03/2021 16:51:25 23 2
bbc
15:33Corbyn 19

If Boris is going to level up, make sure it's with the sensible Tory councils who know how to make it work, and ignore the unions.

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Haha, like the bankrupt tory run Northamptonshire Council that had to be bailed out by the government you mean? ??
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:37:21 2 11
bbc
Better than Liverpool where the council could be going to jail. Incompetance is one thing criminality another.
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23/03/2021 17:26:43 8 0
bbc
Johnson is looking at the next general election and will say what it takes to appease the public ,north and south. E.g re money for NHS, what was said recently by Johnson and co was’ Vote for us, if we win, we'll put in lots into the NHS.’ Well , similarly, e.g. if we get back into power, we’ll level up.’ I’m convinced Johnson doesn’t know what levelling up is!
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23/03/2021 18:37:30 1 10
bbc
I think Boris could say pretty much what he wanted. The fact is the majority realise that a socialist/pseudo Marxist government (and thats what we would get.....Momentum are still pulling the strings) would wreck the UK. Until Labour get rid of the militants (and that will require break up of the party), they have zero chance of power. When they split, they will have even less.
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23/03/2021 20:20:21 3 1
bbc
Oh wise one, you need to learn what Marxism is. Labour isn't it.
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23/03/2021 16:51:25 23 2
bbc
15:33Corbyn 19

If Boris is going to level up, make sure it's with the sensible Tory councils who know how to make it work, and ignore the unions.

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Haha, like the bankrupt tory run Northamptonshire Council that had to be bailed out by the government you mean? ??
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23/03/2021 18:38:43 1 6
bbc
Or you could have Liverpool Council! That went well.....again. Labour cant run a bath successfully.
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23/03/2021 19:50:22 5 1
bbc
And this government can??? PPE scandal, test and trace, etc, etc, etc.
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23/03/2021 16:47:04 12 2
bbc
To improve the north bin HS2 and invest in today's roads and railways.

Practical infrastructure not vanity projects
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23/03/2021 18:40:18 0 1
bbc
Do you mean the roads that the environmental agitators and tree huggers dont want either? Improving the roads to a level that would be needed would cost a lot more than HS2 and result in even more harm. Wise up.
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23/03/2021 17:01:46 7 0
bbc
Hear! Hear! And let us have a proper, civilised, debating chamber instead of that commons cockpit of confrontation which is costing a fortune to refurbish.
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23/03/2021 18:41:22 0 0
bbc
Here here even.
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23/03/2021 18:15:28 3 1
bbc
Lets level up at the 2024 Election .. USA policies on Min wage and Child Support now Embarass the Tory Ideology of sweatshop / Tenant , no hope Britain. Aspiration and Opportunity killers ..
How did the people let them do this after 2008 ?
2024 is time to level up the Labour and Tory MP numbers. Rebuild the Red Wall as no party could allow more people into the Country or more loss of Green Space.
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PWG
23/03/2021 18:44:28 0 3
bbc
Good to see that only 199 MPs take the Labour party whip now. Down four since the election. Alan Hall resigned due to the tribunal. Apsana Begum and Claudia Webbe are awaiting trial and then there is that pariah Corbyn. Poor Kerry Stammered he hasn't got a chance.
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23/03/2021 18:58:19 3 0
bbc
The Red Wall verdict is already in .... The Tories have not changed ... £12570 tax threshold ...... and millions have seen the whites of the eyes of panic increased UC...they will see more of our rubbish safety net when the £20 a week is removed. The harsh environment attempted to be hidden by the Tories.
the only chaage is the Tories have the highest ever UK taxes and Borrowing.. spend and tax.
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23/03/2021 18:28:44 0 5
bbc
I hope levelling up doesnt translate into taking away the incentive to work hard for those people who are minded to do so, to give to the feckless.
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23/03/2021 18:59:18 4 0
bbc
people on UC work harder than you John ....
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23/03/2021 19:10:18 2 1
bbc
When you heavily subsidise one town it has a negative effect on another.
When the subsidise stop the town is left in a bigger mess than before it started
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23/03/2021 19:22:40 10 1
bbc
18:37PWG

Better than Liverpool where the council could be going to jail. Incompetance is one thing criminality another.

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Are you kidding me, the Liverpool mayor is accused of corruption in the awarding of building contracts in the city, show me how that differs from this governments awarding of contracts?
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23/03/2021 20:24:46 4 1
bbc
The government shady contracts were much bigger. That's the only difference I can think of.
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23/03/2021 19:28:04 6 1
bbc
Thanks to the likes of The Good Law Project. We all know exactly what Tory ‘ Levelling up ‘ means and it’s unsurprising how this illegal government behaviour is resulting adding greater fuel toward violent protests. What did anyone think was going to happen when politics is lost to corruption . Blame the Tories ? Personally, I blame a system corrupt to its core and change WILL happen.
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23/03/2021 19:28:58 0 1
bbc
Serious number of good jobs and real opportunities for long term careers required in the north. Which new sector can be based in the north? Tech? ?? Will this be a real effort creating a million new jobs?
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23/03/2021 19:45:07 0 4
bbc
Fracking would be awesome for the North. The geology shows potential, there are already suitable industry's here already (due to likes of Morecambe bay) and these are skillsets that will be required all over the world. The hysteria of the media about fracking has stalled this for the moment but it would certainly help with unemployment and Northern economy.
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23/03/2021 18:30:45 0 6
bbc
USA have generous policies on min wage etc because they are now controlled by a hard core left wing Socialist President. I pity the Americans i really do. The well off and big earners will soon be leaving in droves.
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23/03/2021 19:37:47 3 0
bbc
On what grounds do you name yourself as you do?
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23/03/2021 18:29:31 1 8
bbc
HS2 is practical infrastructure. Very expensive, yes, but it will have considerable benefits to Northern towns and cities, both directly (e.g. travel times) and indirectly - employment and development resulting from the project.
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23/03/2021 19:42:01 1 0
bbc
It'll never happen beyond Birmingham - and nor should it
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23/03/2021 18:30:45 0 6
bbc
USA have generous policies on min wage etc because they are now controlled by a hard core left wing Socialist President. I pity the Americans i really do. The well off and big earners will soon be leaving in droves.
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23/03/2021 19:43:22 1 0
bbc
Left wing ????? Biden would be drummed out of the ERG for being too radical.
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23/03/2021 16:41:02 2 16
bbc
The usual socialist malice and ignorance. Of course everyone who disagrees with you is 'foolish'.
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23/03/2021 19:44:58 1 0
bbc
They usually are....at best.
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23/03/2021 19:28:58 0 1
bbc
Serious number of good jobs and real opportunities for long term careers required in the north. Which new sector can be based in the north? Tech? ?? Will this be a real effort creating a million new jobs?
95
23/03/2021 19:45:07 0 4
bbc
Fracking would be awesome for the North. The geology shows potential, there are already suitable industry's here already (due to likes of Morecambe bay) and these are skillsets that will be required all over the world. The hysteria of the media about fracking has stalled this for the moment but it would certainly help with unemployment and Northern economy.
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23/03/2021 21:12:31 0 0
bbc
And kill them all eventually. Just because you can....
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23/03/2021 21:55:23 0 0
bbc
Interesting how its the 'media' that create the hysteria... or is it reporting the hysteria... or is there no hysteria just reasonable people with reasonable reservations - especially after earthquakes in areas not known for them... before fracking - am I hysterical - are you gas lighting the issue?
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23/03/2021 19:44:04 1 4
bbc
it will improve when we leave the European Union
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23/03/2021 20:42:12 4 1
bbc
Yes, Rees-Mogg gave it fifty years. Which now seems a tad over-optimistic.
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23/03/2021 21:11:45 4 0
bbc
But, but, Brexit's been done hasn't it? And no it won't improve. Brexit hits the people in the Red Wall particularly hard.
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23/03/2021 15:12:23 22 3
bbc
'Levelling up' means about as much as 'we're all in it together'.
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23/03/2021 19:47:51 4 1
bbc
And helping "hard working families"
'arf! 'arf!!
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23/03/2021 15:32:59 2 2
bbc
We had our chance with Corbyn but chose to believe the lies and slanders.

It didn't help that Corbyn wasn't allowed to keep his promise to respect the Brexit vote (which he wanted to do) by Labour MPs representing remain constituencies.
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23/03/2021 19:48:54 0 0
bbc
Then he shouldn't have been 'leader'....
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23/03/2021 18:38:43 1 6
bbc
Or you could have Liverpool Council! That went well.....again. Labour cant run a bath successfully.
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23/03/2021 19:50:22 5 1
bbc
And this government can??? PPE scandal, test and trace, etc, etc, etc.
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23/03/2021 18:30:45 0 6
bbc
USA have generous policies on min wage etc because they are now controlled by a hard core left wing Socialist President. I pity the Americans i really do. The well off and big earners will soon be leaving in droves.
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