Covid: Deaths below average for first time since summer
23/03/2021
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The decline suggests the winter wave of coronavirus deaths has ended, experts say.
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blindwatchmaker
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Why open this to Have Your Say, when you know it's just giving the loonies a platform?
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I think you answered your own question.
Spot on. They are very selective when opening comments. It’s no wonder they are loosing public support.
Well said. We could all do to give it a rest.
Indeed, there are many extreme views doing the rounds, views that I simply can not compute. It astonishes me to see how selfish so many people are. I honestly thought the brits were better than this.
I can appreciate that you believe that the opinions, observations and experiences of the rest of us should not be given an airing, but that is the price you pay for your Sovereign democracy... or is your version of democracy exclusive only to the few who follow your way of thinking?
I agree, there are loads of easily brainwashed loonies that support lockdown.
You sound like one of them
Anyone else remember when lockdown was just for a few weeks to flatten the curve?
And no-one pretended that we would have to sacrifice the entirety of our civil liberties until a vaccine were found and Covid wiped out entirely.
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And no-one pretended that we would have to sacrifice the entirety of our civil liberties until a vaccine were found and Covid wiped out entirely.
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The entirety of your civil liberties haven't gone. You can still say what you want. Go and live in a real dictatorship if you want to see what that's actually like. Grow up.
You know there are 4 stories on this site related to Covid, 4! There is 24/7 coverage in TV, pages and pages in the papers...Time to stop. One 5 minute bulletin a day is plenty. No wonder some people are scared silly. This cannot continue being the be all of everything any more. Take a look around, lockdown? Look outside. People are making their own decisions. Enough of the science and bullshit.
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The death rate is lower because some of those with “underlying health conditions” who were in nursing homes and should have died about now, succumbed a few months earlier, aided by Coronavirus.
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Yep still at least we didn’t spend £400bn extending 350,000 lives by a few months at a cost of £1,142,000 each
'Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this...?'
Interesting that the BBC hasn't got a story on the US Regulator raising serious doubts about the AZ vaccine today when it's one of the top news stories on international media outlets (see also Financial Times). But then we have started talking about vaccines as "ours" and "theirs" as if it were some international football match!
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We should stay in lockdown until 2024 .....
After which time we should then open everything up, but very gradually, and adopting a new 'gold standard' tier system.
Tiers 10 to 1 across the country (10 being the harshest of course, in which you are not allowed to open your curtains before 11am). This needs to remain in place until nobody dies of anything remotely related to coronavirus.
After which time we should then open everything up, but very gradually, and adopting a new 'gold standard' tier system.
Tiers 10 to 1 across the country (10 being the harshest of course, in which you are not allowed to open your curtains before 11am). This needs to remain in place until nobody dies of anything remotely related to coronavirus.
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What a complete load, like saying Jewish deaths were lower 1946 to 1951 than the previous five year period.
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Meet 5 friends outside. You forgot the socially distanced bit. Which is due to stay for several years.
You may be happy shouting to a friend but my children were in relationships. Being told you cannot touch your partner for several years because you don't live together is not a future I want for my kids.
You may be happy shouting to a friend but my children were in relationships. Being told you cannot touch your partner for several years because you don't live together is not a future I want for my kids.
How about posting a proper comment rather than the usual insult at anyone who has a different point of view.
I quoted the person in Andrew Marr. Social distancing set to continue for years other than those in your household
If you think kids should go for years without social contact it's you who should be sterilised Removed
I quoted the person in Andrew Marr. Social distancing set to continue for years other than those in your household
If you think kids should go for years without social contact it's you who should be sterilised Removed
Yeah, avoiderman don't post insults to those that have a different point of view. Only matt's allowed to do that!
Some fail to understand what "average" means...... death rates go up & down every year - a cold snap or a heatwave kills many in a short period. The graph in the article illustrates the fact that the current lower death rate is no guarantee that Covid will not return with renewed venom were lockdown to be lifted totally right now
What's the difference? China has used the pandemic as opportunity to invade the seas and islands to its south. Tories have used the pandemic to shift billions of tax payers money to their mates and not report half of it, effectively 'lost', and to bring in draconian Police state laws. I fill sorry for any recent Hong Kong immigrants to the UK.
Then you are an idiot, in China, upset the State and you disappear and end up providing organs on demand to foreign transplant tourists. We haven't yet got there, but the 'assumption of opting in' to organ donation and the threat of a left wing Socialist mob in power, it is possible. Then former HK residents would have moved on I suspect or vote to keep out socialists!
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Looks like most the gammon are going to dodge the COVID bullet. Still, a hard cold snap next Feb and a virulent flu season should get that excess death chart pointing upwards again
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Who are ‘the gammon’ ? - are you using racist terminology? (accepted because its anti white?)
You don't sound like someone that should be trusted with children.
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How about posting a proper comment rather than the usual insult at anyone who has a different point of view.
I quoted the person in Andrew Marr. Social distancing set to continue for years other than those in your household
If you think kids should go for years without social contact it's you who should be sterilised Removed
I quoted the person in Andrew Marr. Social distancing set to continue for years other than those in your household
If you think kids should go for years without social contact it's you who should be sterilised Removed
"I quoted the person in Andrew Marr"
What -are- you talking about?
And maybe you should think about the proverb about Glass Houses, if you don't want people to throw insults...
What -are- you talking about?
And maybe you should think about the proverb about Glass Houses, if you don't want people to throw insults...
Save the NHS die !!!!!!!
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I have lockdown fatigue and going doolally replying to my own post so my apologies
People can't die twice - who'd have thunk it.
Let's face it, about 80% or so (wild guess) of the Covid deaths we've had were people with one foot in the grave anyway, most of whom in some God's waiting room somewhere, aka nursing homes.
To all intents and purposes, we've destroyed livelihoods and businesses of young people with decades to live to prolong the life of people who've had their life.
Let's face it, about 80% or so (wild guess) of the Covid deaths we've had were people with one foot in the grave anyway, most of whom in some God's waiting room somewhere, aka nursing homes.
To all intents and purposes, we've destroyed livelihoods and businesses of young people with decades to live to prolong the life of people who've had their life.
We should stay in lockdown until 2024 .....
After which time we should then open everything up, but very gradually, and adopting a new 'gold standard' tier system.
Tiers 10 to 1 across the country (10 being the harshest of course, in which you are not allowed to open your curtains before 11am). This needs to remain in place until nobody dies of anything remotely related to coronavirus.
After which time we should then open everything up, but very gradually, and adopting a new 'gold standard' tier system.
Tiers 10 to 1 across the country (10 being the harshest of course, in which you are not allowed to open your curtains before 11am). This needs to remain in place until nobody dies of anything remotely related to coronavirus.
everythinginmoderation
15:17
"Bristol "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-52019720
"Iceland vans torched in Bristol minutes after PM's lockdown order"
This was Southmead Bristol .... Top Brexity voting area in Bristol - high unemployment, high levels of poverty ...
.. not happy with austerity and voted for Brexit for more of it:
.. taking back control I suppose. Removed
15:17
"Bristol "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-52019720
"Iceland vans torched in Bristol minutes after PM's lockdown order"
This was Southmead Bristol .... Top Brexity voting area in Bristol - high unemployment, high levels of poverty ...
.. not happy with austerity and voted for Brexit for more of it:
.. taking back control I suppose. Removed
Perhaps they think that since they got away with vandalism and throwing statues in the river before then they will get away with it again...
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Forestfan
14:37
"Uk had very low flu death years in 2018 n 2019 compared to mainland Europe."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
"Make NHS staff have flu jabs, says minister as hospitals treat EIGHT TIMES more patients than a year ago and 40% of health workers still have not been vaccinated"
Better show us that reference.
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"Uk had very low flu death years in 2018 n 2019 compared to mainland Europe."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
"Make NHS staff have flu jabs, says minister as hospitals treat EIGHT TIMES more patients than a year ago and 40% of health workers still have not been vaccinated"
Better show us that reference.
everythinginmoderation
15:17
"Bristol "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-52019720
"Iceland vans torched in Bristol minutes after PM's lockdown order"
This was Southmead Bristol .... Top Brexity voting area in Bristol - high unemployment, high levels of poverty ...
.. not happy with austerity and voted for Brexit for more of it:
.. taking back control I suppose. Removed
15:17
"Bristol "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-52019720
"Iceland vans torched in Bristol minutes after PM's lockdown order"
This was Southmead Bristol .... Top Brexity voting area in Bristol - high unemployment, high levels of poverty ...
.. not happy with austerity and voted for Brexit for more of it:
.. taking back control I suppose. Removed
"Winter wave is over". Hope so.
But last year we had 3 waves to Europe's 2, purely because of Bozo's renewed incompetence in the Autumn.
The 3rd wave hitting the Continent now is largely due to the Kent variant (UK 3rd wave).
Yet Johnson arrogantly states that Europe's wave will "wash over" our shores.
Is he getting his excuses in early for our 4th wave when he opens up too early?
Of course he is!
But last year we had 3 waves to Europe's 2, purely because of Bozo's renewed incompetence in the Autumn.
The 3rd wave hitting the Continent now is largely due to the Kent variant (UK 3rd wave).
Yet Johnson arrogantly states that Europe's wave will "wash over" our shores.
Is he getting his excuses in early for our 4th wave when he opens up too early?
Of course he is!
If you're worried about other 'idiots' then you can hide yourself away.
Why are you locking up seventy million perfectly healthy people just because you are frightened?
How selfish is that?
Why are you locking up seventy million perfectly healthy people just because you are frightened?
How selfish is that?
"Winter wave is over". Hope so.
But last year we had 3 waves to Europe's 2, purely because of Bozo's renewed incompetence in the Autumn.
The 3rd wave hitting the Continent now is largely due to the Kent variant (UK 3rd wave).
Yet Johnson arrogantly states that Europe's wave will "wash over" our shores.
Is he getting his excuses in early for our 4th wave when he opens up too early?
Of course he is!
But last year we had 3 waves to Europe's 2, purely because of Bozo's renewed incompetence in the Autumn.
The 3rd wave hitting the Continent now is largely due to the Kent variant (UK 3rd wave).
Yet Johnson arrogantly states that Europe's wave will "wash over" our shores.
Is he getting his excuses in early for our 4th wave when he opens up too early?
Of course he is!
Cmon BBC,
how dare you have a article that is not smearing Nicola Sturgeon..
You what the boss said, doesnt matter if she is found innocent stick something negative about her on every news page we have ...
Boris? hes doing a great job dealing with Covid Brexit and his wife..
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how dare you have a article that is not smearing Nicola Sturgeon..
You what the boss said, doesnt matter if she is found innocent stick something negative about her on every news page we have ...
Boris? hes doing a great job dealing with Covid Brexit and his wife..
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This has to be the final lockdown , the country cannot afford another one , more people would die from the economic and social consequences of the economy squeeze than the current death toll , no matter how awful that is.
good news , but no thanks to the conservative vermin , 130,000 dead from this virus , 120,000s dead from austerity , murdering etonian gravy dribblers policies against the proles
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If only they'd all dressed up as statues of long-dead politicians, they'd have had more protection from this lot.
Not quite off topic, as the cause is the virus, why no report on BBC about all the hate crimes, incluidng physical assault, on E. Asians in Britain? Many were born here and don't even have Chinese ancestry, some are Vietnamese. See today's Al jazeera.
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I blame Farage!!!
But why stop here?
Why not go the whole hog and try to eliminate deaths entirely?
We’re humans after all so we’re exceptional and can defeat anything because us humans rule!!!!
No.
Of we course we can’t defeat death, and the sooner we accept its inevitability the sooner we can focus on getting a better quality of life, not quantity.
Why not go the whole hog and try to eliminate deaths entirely?
We’re humans after all so we’re exceptional and can defeat anything because us humans rule!!!!
No.
Of we course we can’t defeat death, and the sooner we accept its inevitability the sooner we can focus on getting a better quality of life, not quantity.
"Sturgeon survives Holyrood confidence vote over Salmond row"
LOL - the only thing this has done up here is increased her already massive popularity.
If you put any stock on what the Union Jocks on here say (and boy do they talk rot!) then you're in for rather a big shock.
Scotland is behind Nicola Sturgeon in a big way - but listening to the tory led BBC doesn't give you that impression! LOL Removed
LOL - the only thing this has done up here is increased her already massive popularity.
If you put any stock on what the Union Jocks on here say (and boy do they talk rot!) then you're in for rather a big shock.
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The who saga is because of infighting between 2 SNP politicians and you are talking as if its increasing SNP's popularity . Are people really that dull in Scotland?
Either Salmond lying or Nicola is lying so one of the leaders of 2014 yes camp is lying .
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The who saga is because of infighting between 2 SNP politicians and you are talking as if its increasing SNP's popularity . Are people really that dull in Scotland?
Either Salmond lying or Nicola is lying so one of the leaders of 2014 yes camp is lying .
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"Sturgeon survives Holyrood confidence vote over Salmond row"
LOL - the only thing this has done up here is increased her already massive popularity.
If you put any stock on what the Union Jocks on here say (and boy do they talk rot!) then you're in for rather a big shock.
Scotland is behind Nicola Sturgeon in a big way - but listening to the tory led BBC doesn't give you that impression! LOL Removed
LOL - the only thing this has done up here is increased her already massive popularity.
If you put any stock on what the Union Jocks on here say (and boy do they talk rot!) then you're in for rather a big shock.
Scotland is behind Nicola Sturgeon in a big way - but listening to the tory led BBC doesn't give you that impression! LOL Removed
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The who saga is because of infighting between 2 SNP politicians and you are talking as if its increasing SNP's popularity . Are people really that dull in Scotland?
Either Salmond lying or Nicola is lying so one of the leaders of 2014 yes camp is lying .
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The who saga is because of infighting between 2 SNP politicians and you are talking as if its increasing SNP's popularity . Are people really that dull in Scotland?
Either Salmond lying or Nicola is lying so one of the leaders of 2014 yes camp is lying .
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BBC don’t like this as they are only into negative new . Defund BBC now
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But they still reported it.
This is absolute bs and manipulated data - no more people have died than in a normal year or winter - thats right guys COVID has only killed people that would have naturally died anyway this year - many elderly people and many people that have severe health problems. Just think how many peoples lives have been ruined this year by lockdowns and restrictions for nothing.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
It might be worth looking towards Russia for the potential impact of minimal restrictions. Estimated 450K deaths from a population of 144 million in the world largest country. More people have died in the last year probably more than for many years. I want it to end as well but don't spout nonsense.
Blatantly untrue; people dying from Covid would have died in 5-10 years time. That's how much of their lives has been taken away by Covid.
Just think how many lives would have been ruined had we not locked down.
Just think how many lives would have been ruined had we not locked down.
Less people dying is certainly good news. I think we should all listen to independent Doctors and scientists as well as the politicians, Doctors and scientists employed by the government.
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All the (( experts )) that get media coverage are all on the payroll, we never hear the other side ( typical leftist behavior )! Same with the climate change hoax agenda #convid #influenza #globohomowarming #basedandredpilled
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It has been noted that the 'government' could not have done a better job of spreading covid19 had they tried.
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Almost a quarter of those who died had dementia, diabetes, blood pressure or respiratory disease. Only about 6% had no underlying health condition. We need to concentrate on having a healthy weight and getting fit for the future - it's a lifesaver, and is why some countries have a much lower death rate than the UK.
BBC - 'The UK holds a national day of reflection'.
More utter fake news. The only thing we're reflecting on is our civil liberties being removed, laws passed through the back door and that the State can only push us so far without mass non- socially distanced protest way above the new drawn up decibel ratings. Removed
More utter fake news. The only thing we're reflecting on is our civil liberties being removed, laws passed through the back door and that the State can only push us so far without mass non- socially distanced protest way above the new drawn up decibel ratings. Removed
Some of the posts and those demonstrators on the streets are freedom craving wimps
They seem to get easily broken by our necessary restrictions
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They seem to get easily broken by our necessary restrictions
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Lock up the lefty #marxistsluts that piss on coppers shoes!
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Less people dying is certainly good news. I think we should all listen to independent Doctors and scientists as well as the politicians, Doctors and scientists employed by the government.
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Just a question ...
... why do most pictures of the NHS show Fat Nurses ?
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Just a question ...
... why do most pictures of the NHS show Fat Nurses ?
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Because obese nurses are a 'thing' even the NHS has a good laugh about.
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Wuft i know and i can answer, for my x wife was one,, sat at her station eating biscuits most of the time however seen her not so long ago and this year she has lost a lot of weight
When does this start!
Grenfell was June 2017 but the enquiry has found cladding failing fire test 2005 onwards- these things never start on the day they always have earlier roots.
NHS not fit for pandemic (any) Mar 2020, but where are roots?
Lansley review 2011? Health act 2012, Cygnus and Pandemic planning being ignored? Austerity, not publishing acting on staffing review
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Grenfell was June 2017 but the enquiry has found cladding failing fire test 2005 onwards- these things never start on the day they always have earlier roots.
NHS not fit for pandemic (any) Mar 2020, but where are roots?
Lansley review 2011? Health act 2012, Cygnus and Pandemic planning being ignored? Austerity, not publishing acting on staffing review
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Drivel
Sars-CoV-2 is NOT an influenza virus
And we only have some sort of influenza herd immunity because it has been around for 100 years, and there is some sort of herd immunity, and there are vaccines
Yet it can still kill hundreds of thousands worldwide per year - and mostly those who are not vaccinated, I suspect (but don't have the proof at hand)
Sars-CoV-2 is NOT an influenza virus
And we only have some sort of influenza herd immunity because it has been around for 100 years, and there is some sort of herd immunity, and there are vaccines
Yet it can still kill hundreds of thousands worldwide per year - and mostly those who are not vaccinated, I suspect (but don't have the proof at hand)
Covid: Deaths below average for first time since summer'
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Just saying.How many of the vaccine fanatics on here who slag off the so called anti vaxxers for their lack off medical knowledge have actually sat in front of their gp and asked exactly what they are getting in their arm. Thought so
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Nope. Didn't want to trouble my GP. So just read what I could find.
Depends on which vaccine you get for the most part. What do you think you are getting mercury or a microchip?
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The south could be open at the May level already
If the idiots in Barnsley weren't meeting up illegally we'd be out of this by now
Can we in the South just abandon the North to it's fate - evolution will see it die out soon enough - it has no economic reason except for productive southerners to go to see rugged beauty and industrial heritage
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If the idiots in Barnsley weren't meeting up illegally we'd be out of this by now
Can we in the South just abandon the North to it's fate - evolution will see it die out soon enough - it has no economic reason except for productive southerners to go to see rugged beauty and industrial heritage
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Go on a protest.
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All of the C-19 deaths worldwide have been replaced (births) in the last week.
Energy saving lightbulbs won’t quite cut it with that rate of population growth...not something the climate change warriors will accept any time soon, but the reality is that humans need more pandemics and fewer survivors.
The pan bashers will be cheering, but Gran might not want another 6 months on the dementia ward?
Energy saving lightbulbs won’t quite cut it with that rate of population growth...not something the climate change warriors will accept any time soon, but the reality is that humans need more pandemics and fewer survivors.
The pan bashers will be cheering, but Gran might not want another 6 months on the dementia ward?
They are an established drug company with an excellent reputation who supply the NHS with millions on medications every year...
Oxford university collaborated with them to produce a global vaccine made at cost (zero profit for AZ).
The government and EU quite sensibly provided support.
What is your specific concern?
Oxford university collaborated with them to produce a global vaccine made at cost (zero profit for AZ).
The government and EU quite sensibly provided support.
What is your specific concern?
They are an established drug company with an excellent reputation who supply the NHS with millions on medications every year...
Oxford university collaborated with them to produce a global vaccine made at cost (zero profit for AZ).
The government and EU quite sensibly provided support.
What is your specific concern?
Oxford university collaborated with them to produce a global vaccine made at cost (zero profit for AZ).
The government and EU quite sensibly provided support.
What is your specific concern?
The more I find out about Big Pharma the more shocking it becomes. How, I'm wondering , did the PM choose Astra Zeneca to research and produce their vaccine? Did he get references> Did he he interview their bosses? Did he get independent advise as tot heir suitability? Did he get someone from our Civil Service to do some research - possibly look at the US Supreme Court Judgments?
If only he had!
If only he had!