Coronavirus: How the common cold can boot out Covid
23/03/2021 | news | health | 358
It looks like the viruses that cause colds wins in the battle to infect our cells.
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DC
23/03/2021 10:18:06 43 3
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Well if you want to catch a cold send your kids to school and you will soon have one.
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23/03/2021 10:29:08 32 2
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I find commuting into London much more effective.
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23/03/2021 10:30:22 12 0
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Joking aside I have had a lot of (fairly minor) colds coming back from my 2 nursery aged children again this winter. If as this research is suggesting the constant circulation effect of these more common viruses has a suppressive effect on Coronavirus then this may be that this why we see much lower levels of Coronavirus in very young children. After all toddlers dont really do social distancing.
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23/03/2021 10:59:14 2 0
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At our local school plenty of kids have a cough and sniffles since returning on March 8th.
To date no positive tests though.
Thankfully their immune systems will be working again and please give me the cold as well so mine is up and running.
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23/03/2021 14:52:47 0 0
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Knowing this, if we see a resurgence in covid-19 variants in the future that have become vaccine resistant - we could just spread Rhinovirus variants over and over again throughout the population. We'd all be sniffly miserable, but at least we wouldn't have to be locked up indoors.
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23/03/2021 10:18:43 12 14
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Yet we've spent the last year hiding away from common colds
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23/03/2021 10:23:25 8 2
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and life
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23/03/2021 10:29:17 1 0
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Yep, we must now hide from all dangers to protect your fellow man.??
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23/03/2021 10:30:20 3 1
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We’ve spent the last year hiding from life, existence and acknowledgment that we are part of the cycle of life.... and death
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23/03/2021 12:25:15 0 0
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True , how well do you think the country would have responded had HMG not said '3 weeks to save the NHS' but had said '67 Million man/woman years to save the NHS and then austerity the like of which even Greece in the EU has not seen.'
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23/03/2021 10:18:46 102 2
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Interesting article. All knowledge about Covid we add is potentially beneficial.
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23/03/2021 10:31:47 8 98
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Not entirely sure how this is beneficial. In layman's it says if you catch a cold you're less likely to catch covid. Who benefits from knowing that exactly?
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nog
23/03/2021 13:04:36 7 4
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I think it’s called common sense. Most of us know colds are a sign of a healthy immune system. The whole process of sneezing; coughing and temperature are our immune systems way of removing pathogens from the body. We’ve just spent a year destroying our immune systems.
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23/03/2021 15:39:54 0 1
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It has been suggested that this mechanism is an alternative explanation as to why flu disappeared - coronavirus out-competed it
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KR
23/03/2021 10:19:04 36 4
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Interesting information in this article. It's not to be sniffed at.
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23/03/2021 10:35:54 11 1
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It certainly is cold comfort to those who might get Covid.
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23/03/2021 10:21:28 21 13
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Don’t put the masks and sanitiser away yet then..... what’s effective for Covid PPE wise should help with other pathogens!
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23/03/2021 11:54:06 9 18
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Keep the sanitiser, ditch the masks, in use by the general public they are nothing more than a comfort blanket at best, a disease multiplier and virtue signal at worst.
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23/03/2021 10:21:52 21 6
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A critical further question then also arises...? If you get a cold when you get your injection can it nullify the vaccination?
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23/03/2021 10:32:34 26 2
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Good question! Something we need to know.

Just asking an intelligent question is NOT anti-vax.
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23/03/2021 10:38:54 7 0
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No
.The immune system will still see the covid spike protein and make antibodies.
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23/03/2021 10:42:52 4 0
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Not sure why you're getting down-votes - it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask, especially considering vaccines like the AstraZeneca one are based on similar viruses. No-one will know for certain unless someone actually does (or has done) an experiment to find out.
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23/03/2021 10:56:04 5 0
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Covid vaccines are not nasal sprays they are injected into the muscle in your arm. The muscle in your arm does not catch a cold.
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23/03/2021 10:22:02 6 14
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So if rhinoviruses can "trump" coronavirus, is it not unreasonable to theorise that the coronavirus has been "trumping" flu viruses - hence the incredibly low prevalence of Flu for the past year? In which case coronavirus deaths may have included up to 50,000 deaths that would have occurred anyway due to flu (as happened in 2017/2018)?
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23/03/2021 10:23:21 18 3
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Flu is low because of social distancing - anyway look at excess deaths. That tells the story
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23/03/2021 10:24:55 7 1
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This may be theoretically possible of course but remember that Flu has a much lower reproduction value than Coronavirus so all the measures we have taken to suppress coronavirus transmission have also worked - and more effectively so - on influenza.
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23/03/2021 10:24:32 12 0
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No, the reason we have had 4,000 deaths from flu (average is 11,000) is because people have been isolating + hands-face-space
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23/03/2021 10:26:55 0 4
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Haha deluded.You mean the government hijacked flu and changed it to covid
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23/03/2021 10:22:12 9 10
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Fascinating.

johnson blaming Europe for 3rd wave already.

He's getting the hang of foresight after all.
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23/03/2021 10:28:20 23 6
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He's blaming travel, not Europe.

About time millions in UK learned the link.

And stopped demanding foreign holidays.
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23/03/2021 12:00:44 1 0
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But Europe is anti-vaxx central, he has every right to blame them, they screw up their vaccine procurement and the contracts, threaten to sue AZ, discover they can't so attack the UK , Europe's most successful vaccine project to date, simply because our contracts are watertight AND we concentrated on getting vaccines not paring down the price.
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23/03/2021 10:22:14 6 11
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But no one will be catching the common cold if masks and distancing is remaining in place so what does this research seek to do?
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23/03/2021 10:24:04 9 3
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Don't worry . Remember the masks don't really work.
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23/03/2021 10:45:18 0 0
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No masks or distancing at nursery or when the toddlers come home to the rest of the family. What do you think is wrong with the 95% of folk who think they may have covid but test shows otherwise?
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23/03/2021 10:54:03 0 0
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Expand our knowledge base? Provide information for further research?
Do try to think before you put fingers to keys
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23/03/2021 10:22:22 1 11
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Ivermectin works. WHO cares ?
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23/03/2021 10:22:43 57 1
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This is the sort of really important research that can be built on opening up potential for further research and scientific discoveries giving us routes to possible post infection treatments. Congrats to all involved.
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23/03/2021 19:38:55 2 6
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But attempting to suppress collective immunity for a virus that is not a High Consequence Infectious Disease was always going to be a dumb move. That is what these clowns have done.
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23/03/2021 10:23:17 4 0
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Maybe could be used as part of care for somebody who has bad Covid?...
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23/03/2021 10:39:27 3 0
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By the time people know they have Covid it's been several days, by the time Covid gets severe it's more like 8-10 days.

The study only mentions a 24 hr lead test.

Be interesting to see if this gets trialled on real patients, in a more advanced stage.
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23/03/2021 10:22:02 6 14
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So if rhinoviruses can "trump" coronavirus, is it not unreasonable to theorise that the coronavirus has been "trumping" flu viruses - hence the incredibly low prevalence of Flu for the past year? In which case coronavirus deaths may have included up to 50,000 deaths that would have occurred anyway due to flu (as happened in 2017/2018)?
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23/03/2021 10:23:21 18 3
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Flu is low because of social distancing - anyway look at excess deaths. That tells the story
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23/03/2021 10:27:35 1 10
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Keep telling yourself that. ??
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23/03/2021 12:35:22 0 0
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so if social distancing worked so well for Flu, how come it didn't for Covid? ;-) The article says Flu is 'selfish' a way of saying IT should keep out Covid - hmm, don't tell me the mortality figures are screwed ? ('with' not 'of', 'within 28 days of a +ve test. Then we have Pfizer on vaccine deaths "Very difficult to determine cause of death, they were very old and ill & would have died anyway'
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Rae
23/03/2021 16:15:00 1 0
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Again I ask , how do you know how many people have had a cold or flu , do you know everybody in the country , and what was wrong with those who tested negative for covid .... another respiratory virus ...
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23/03/2021 10:18:43 12 14
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Yet we've spent the last year hiding away from common colds
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23/03/2021 10:23:25 8 2
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and life
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Bob
23/03/2021 10:23:52 33 17
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OH wow you mean most people have a working immune system.

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23/03/2021 11:01:56 11 3
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This is absolutely not what the article is about.
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23/03/2021 10:22:14 6 11
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But no one will be catching the common cold if masks and distancing is remaining in place so what does this research seek to do?
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23/03/2021 10:24:04 9 3
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Don't worry . Remember the masks don't really work.
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23/03/2021 10:27:27 3 0
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Exactly. They would have a minor effect if you decided to sneeze/cough in someone's face, but don't have the magic 'force field' effect most people think they do.
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23/03/2021 10:22:02 6 14
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So if rhinoviruses can "trump" coronavirus, is it not unreasonable to theorise that the coronavirus has been "trumping" flu viruses - hence the incredibly low prevalence of Flu for the past year? In which case coronavirus deaths may have included up to 50,000 deaths that would have occurred anyway due to flu (as happened in 2017/2018)?
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23/03/2021 10:24:55 7 1
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This may be theoretically possible of course but remember that Flu has a much lower reproduction value than Coronavirus so all the measures we have taken to suppress coronavirus transmission have also worked - and more effectively so - on influenza.
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23/03/2021 10:22:02 6 14
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So if rhinoviruses can "trump" coronavirus, is it not unreasonable to theorise that the coronavirus has been "trumping" flu viruses - hence the incredibly low prevalence of Flu for the past year? In which case coronavirus deaths may have included up to 50,000 deaths that would have occurred anyway due to flu (as happened in 2017/2018)?
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23/03/2021 10:24:32 12 0
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No, the reason we have had 4,000 deaths from flu (average is 11,000) is because people have been isolating + hands-face-space
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23/03/2021 10:25:12 63 3
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Fascinating. This may help to-explain why those with young children have not had as much Covid. When my kids were small they always had colds which they invariably “Shared “ with me.
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23/03/2021 10:33:00 23 18
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Or they were asymptomatic and merrily spreading it.
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DJG
23/03/2021 11:14:51 8 6
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It also means that the schools should never have been closed.
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23/03/2021 12:07:17 1 0
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That's an amazing coincidence that so many parents caught a common cold from their children 24 hours before catching SARS-CoV-2 in order for the rhinovirus to block the SARS virus.
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23/03/2021 12:12:07 0 0
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This needs a study to determine the excess prevalence of rhinovirus (compared to the population in general) in families of school-age children and their teachers, grouped by age, atmospheric conditions at time of testing, etc. If it comes up trumps it could explain a lot, at least in this cold-prevalent country.
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23/03/2021 21:35:12 0 0
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Most try and teach kids to share, sometimes success is not good ??
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23/03/2021 10:25:36 0 23
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How the hell is anyone going to catch a cold! Waste of time story...
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23/03/2021 10:41:09 11 0
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No scientific research is a waste of time. Our modern world is built from discoveries by scientists & often the usefulness of a discovery is only realised years after such research.

Who do you think developed the vaccines? The Oxford one was mostly developed BEFORE Covid existed. All that the scientists had to do was tweak it to make it specific to Covid. Was that prior research a waste of time?
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23/03/2021 10:25:36 12 29
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So basically masks,social distancing etc has helped covid take hold.Herd immunity,colds would have helped our immune systems better.Well done government.
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23/03/2021 10:39:14 9 1
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Easy to say that and be wise after the event [if indeed that turns out to be true.]. I dislike this government for many reasons, but I do not envy them right now having to deal with this.
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QED
23/03/2021 11:04:32 2 0
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No, once your cold has gone the covid gets you. Only protects while you have the cold so very short term. Vaccine protects much longer, and with boosters potentially for life.
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23/03/2021 10:24:04 9 3
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Don't worry . Remember the masks don't really work.
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23/03/2021 10:27:27 3 0
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Exactly. They would have a minor effect if you decided to sneeze/cough in someone's face, but don't have the magic 'force field' effect most people think they do.
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23/03/2021 10:27:29 0 4
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Quick get spreading it , protect the NHS
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23/03/2021 10:31:57 10 1
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"However, Covid would be able to cause an infection again once the cold had passed and the immune response calmed down."

It's a temporary protection, not a permanent one.
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23/03/2021 10:23:21 18 3
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Flu is low because of social distancing - anyway look at excess deaths. That tells the story
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23/03/2021 10:27:35 1 10
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Keep telling yourself that. ??
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23/03/2021 10:22:12 9 10
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Fascinating.

johnson blaming Europe for 3rd wave already.

He's getting the hang of foresight after all.
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23/03/2021 10:28:20 23 6
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He's blaming travel, not Europe.

About time millions in UK learned the link.

And stopped demanding foreign holidays.
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37p
23/03/2021 10:34:40 4 1
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He's not blaming anyone as far as I can see.
He merely made a statement that everyone knows about already.

I wish people would stop reading their own fears into every statement ministers or the government makes.
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23/03/2021 12:03:37 1 0
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Remoaners will accuse us of Xenophobia, because IF this coming tourist season is as bad as last years tourist season, then the 4 EU tourist economies which happen to be in the world's top 10 debtor nations, are likely to default on debt & bring down the Eurozone. It isn't just a vaccine war the EU is obsessed with, Brexit Britain has to fail to remove hope from Italy of life outside the Euro.
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23/03/2021 10:22:02 6 14
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So if rhinoviruses can "trump" coronavirus, is it not unreasonable to theorise that the coronavirus has been "trumping" flu viruses - hence the incredibly low prevalence of Flu for the past year? In which case coronavirus deaths may have included up to 50,000 deaths that would have occurred anyway due to flu (as happened in 2017/2018)?
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23/03/2021 10:26:55 0 4
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Haha deluded.You mean the government hijacked flu and changed it to covid
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DC
23/03/2021 10:18:06 43 3
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Well if you want to catch a cold send your kids to school and you will soon have one.
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23/03/2021 10:29:08 32 2
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I find commuting into London much more effective.
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23/03/2021 21:38:03 0 0
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And the bozos at many companies want people back in trains busses planes and offices to share colds etc. I wonder if anyone has studied how many sick days have been taken in the last year compared to normal
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23/03/2021 10:18:43 12 14
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Yet we've spent the last year hiding away from common colds
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23/03/2021 10:29:17 1 0
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Yep, we must now hide from all dangers to protect your fellow man.??
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23/03/2021 10:27:39 10 25
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Right = bin the masks and open society, the vunerable are vaccinated so let the rest of us get on with our lives.
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23/03/2021 10:32:39 1 22
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Absolutely. But hold on Boris has now up’d the fearporn with the 3rd wave nonsense. So apparently getting vaxxed is worthless! Let the sheep carry on.??????
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23/03/2021 10:29:38 1 17
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Does this mean if you've had a flu jab you're more likely to get covid?
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QED
23/03/2021 11:02:34 2 0
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No.
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23/03/2021 10:29:48 78 6
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When some Scientists were saying this, their reputations were besmirched, their voices silenced! Lesson? Never stifle debate, never ignore those who seem like mavericks. They may just turn out to be right!
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23/03/2021 10:34:18 58 15
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Unfortunately if you don’t follow ‘the narrative’ you are labelled as a crack pot because the real crack pots are in charge for some reason
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23/03/2021 10:36:36 14 3
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Absolutely. Thinking outside of the box is crucial for problem solving and advancing science. Trouble is, during these trying times, anything other than mainstream thinking has been labelled as 'science-denying'. We need the "science-deniers" in order to investigate ALL avenues available to us!
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23/03/2021 10:48:42 6 1
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Remember when: Prince Charles was ridiculed for saying that we were damaging the environment - Green Peace saying we were damaging the seas - scientists saying there was a hole in the ozone layer - scientists saying that cutting down trees in the rain forests was causing weather problems - scientists saying that using fossil fuel was causing acid rain, etc etc? Yes we do need to open ears & minds.
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23/03/2021 10:57:41 9 1
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There should have been a TV debate between scientists on the benefits and downsides of lockdown measures and how long that benefit could last for.
The fact many who have been proven correct in some areas were silenced initially explains a lot.
There's more to come from the Mavericks.The current hysteria of Covid as the 'New Black-death' is going to be kicked into touch. The cure, worse than the diseaser will kill more. Covid Cultists will rush to deny they were ever for the cure. As professional protestors have suddenly discovered anti-lockdowners were right, - freedoms once lost don't just come back. Covid Cult has a lot to answer for Removed
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23/03/2021 12:19:37 0 0
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And then there's Andrew Wakefield...

Maverick scientist? Or dangerous scientist?
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SJ
23/03/2021 16:19:22 0 0
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Which scientists ?
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23/03/2021 10:18:43 12 14
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Yet we've spent the last year hiding away from common colds
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23/03/2021 10:30:20 3 1
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We’ve spent the last year hiding from life, existence and acknowledgment that we are part of the cycle of life.... and death
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DC
23/03/2021 10:18:06 43 3
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Well if you want to catch a cold send your kids to school and you will soon have one.
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23/03/2021 10:30:22 12 0
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Joking aside I have had a lot of (fairly minor) colds coming back from my 2 nursery aged children again this winter. If as this research is suggesting the constant circulation effect of these more common viruses has a suppressive effect on Coronavirus then this may be that this why we see much lower levels of Coronavirus in very young children. After all toddlers dont really do social distancing.
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23/03/2021 10:31:38 39 1
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A very interesting article with many implications that could work either for or against us. Lockdown also surpasses the common cold, which in turn might mean Covid has more freedom to infect us. Conversely, if many people catch a cold next winter, it could help them fight Covid.

Keep up the good work - I look forward to reading more about research in this area.

Cold-catching parties anyone?
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DJG
23/03/2021 11:16:02 9 1
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I suspect the problem with your excellent suggestion is figuring out in advance what is a cold and what is covid...
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23/03/2021 11:42:30 0 4
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I doubt it, given the vitriol poured on the heads of young students at their parties, or last summer's beach fests. They should have been given medals, striving for herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine. Mind you given they weren't risking their lives and ALL the lock-down cultist were safe in their lock-down world, maybe a medal is a bit over the top.
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23/03/2021 10:18:46 102 2
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Interesting article. All knowledge about Covid we add is potentially beneficial.
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23/03/2021 10:31:47 8 98
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Not entirely sure how this is beneficial. In layman's it says if you catch a cold you're less likely to catch covid. Who benefits from knowing that exactly?
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23/03/2021 10:53:01 17 1
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Well I would say it is beneficial to know that if you have a common cold you are less likely to catch Covid.
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23/03/2021 10:58:23 12 3
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knee jerk again - CD1966 said "potentially". Just try thinking a bit before commenting, if you can that is
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23/03/2021 11:01:13 24 0
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I think the word you are missing there is "potentially."
Knowledge is good, although uncomfortable at times. Ignorance is not and denial worse still.
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23/03/2021 10:58:17 20 1
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Ummm you missed it. Try reading it again.

If you catch COVID, and are then deliberately infected with a common cold, COVID loses the battle. It's not a long term answer and won't confer any kind of immunity, but if you're going down bad with COVID, it might just save your life.
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23/03/2021 11:12:49 6 4
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In Layman's terms it is very interesting, (though to be fair what do you mean by Layman, there are large numbers of us not virologists who have degrees in Biochemistry and can reason) IF Flu is the 'most selfish' virus, why is it that it has almost disappeared when it comes to mortality stats? Same with the cold viruses, IF they are as claimed, why are all respiratory deaths apparently Covid?
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23/03/2021 11:29:31 10 2
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Well I would rather have a cold for 3 months if it reduced the chances of me dying of Covid before I have the chance of vaccinations
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23/03/2021 13:07:15 2 0
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Knowledge is power - if we can work out how they do it then....
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23/03/2021 14:17:18 2 0
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It may be of limited use to us as individuals, but for those responsible for modelling how Covid19 may respond when restrictions ease, it's highly relevant. We would expect other endemic viruses such as rhinovirus or flu to start spreading again, and this research suggests this will help to dampen down any resurgence of Covid19, which is very good news. This information can help to shape policy.
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23/03/2021 10:31:54 19 0
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"The benefits might be short-lived but rhinovirus is so widespread, they add, it could still help to suppress Covid"

Is this the viral version of fighting fire with fire?
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23/03/2021 10:31:57 5 9
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Nature wins again... can we get on with life now...?
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23/03/2021 10:34:54 1 3
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No, you must obey your government! ??
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23/03/2021 10:27:29 0 4
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Quick get spreading it , protect the NHS
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23/03/2021 10:31:57 10 1
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"However, Covid would be able to cause an infection again once the cold had passed and the immune response calmed down."

It's a temporary protection, not a permanent one.
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23/03/2021 10:32:33 4 4
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It was the cowpox virus that was used as a vaccine to help your immune system fight the smallpox virus. We seem to over estimate human achievements a lot, we are very stone age when it comes to medicine, we cant kill viruses so we are forced to use smoke and mirrors to combat them, a bit like arming dolphins with limpet mines to plant on the hull of ships. Devious and sneaky.
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23/03/2021 10:21:52 21 6
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A critical further question then also arises...? If you get a cold when you get your injection can it nullify the vaccination?
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23/03/2021 10:32:34 26 2
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Good question! Something we need to know.

Just asking an intelligent question is NOT anti-vax.
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23/03/2021 11:08:53 4 0
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Exactly. I not anti-vax at all. If people have a cold they may need to be re-injected or perhaps delay a week until the cold clears, if that could negate its effectiveness. Something I hope the researchers might look at for a definitive answer. Certainly I'm not cocky enough to think I have the answer to that.
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23/03/2021 11:56:26 1 2
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A very intelligent question, 'the appliance of reason' - not often found on the BBC, and no doubt we'll have the Covid Cult on now asking if Jon from Billy is 'an expert' as only an expert question is considered intelligent or acceptable.
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23/03/2021 10:27:39 10 25
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Right = bin the masks and open society, the vunerable are vaccinated so let the rest of us get on with our lives.
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23/03/2021 10:32:39 1 22
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Absolutely. But hold on Boris has now up’d the fearporn with the 3rd wave nonsense. So apparently getting vaxxed is worthless! Let the sheep carry on.??????
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23/03/2021 10:50:58 6 1
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A pair of stupid comments. Very selfish and unhelpful
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23/03/2021 10:25:12 63 3
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Fascinating. This may help to-explain why those with young children have not had as much Covid. When my kids were small they always had colds which they invariably “Shared “ with me.
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23/03/2021 10:33:00 23 18
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Or they were asymptomatic and merrily spreading it.
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23/03/2021 10:59:35 1 4
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Or asymptomatic and not spreading it, as we are led to believe the vaccine will be the effect of the vaccine roll out.
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23/03/2021 11:14:10 5 7
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No, the data is now firm, Children (not teenagers - the effects wear off with the approach of adulthood) not only don't spread it to adults, they don't spread it to each other, Children invariable catch it from adults.
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23/03/2021 14:37:32 0 0
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rubbish
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23/03/2021 10:33:13 108 9
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Love how comments after an article brings all the pub scientists out, and their inevitable 'theories'! Usually this involves anyone who is more intelligent than them, being wrong.

Research like this brings new knowledge. It may turn out to be useful, it may not be. It might lead to new vaccines, or help with decision making. Who knows, but its better to have the knowledge, than not.
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23/03/2021 10:41:14 15 3
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I would love to be a pub scientist. Luckily I stayed safe last Summer by having bowl of cheesy chips with my drinks.
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23/03/2021 11:35:44 1 7
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A theory follows a hypothesis, just thought you might like to know the next time you wish to try and deflect from what may be a very uncomfortable exposure to reality for the Covid Cult.
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23/03/2021 11:39:27 2 3
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First you guess... if it disagrees with experience the guess is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't matter how beautiful your guess is or how smart you are or what your name is. If it disagrees with experience it's wrong. That's all there is to it.

Richard Feynman

Ferguson guessed, then he, SAGE & HMG ignored the fact his models disagreed with experience.
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23/03/2021 13:20:28 2 3
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But it’s not new knowledge just hidden so we wouldn’t question lockdown. I was always brought up to know colds were part of a healthy immune system. This winter will be horrific as we will all be vulnerable.
318
23/03/2021 19:42:55 0 0
bbc
Patronizing and arrogant way of saying next to nothing.
345
23/03/2021 23:22:46 0 1
bbc
You do not need to be a Scientist to realise there is a hell of a lot of fraud in this....
357
24/03/2021 16:25:58 0 0
bbc
What is a "Pub" scientist? I am retired ex-Porton/Oxford etc. I do not visit Pubs.
44
23/03/2021 10:31:26 1 0
bbc
Will non allergic rhinitis have the same effect?
59
23/03/2021 10:37:43 3 0
bbc
Don’t think so. It’s just a runny nose.
31
23/03/2021 10:29:48 78 6
bbc
When some Scientists were saying this, their reputations were besmirched, their voices silenced! Lesson? Never stifle debate, never ignore those who seem like mavericks. They may just turn out to be right!
45
23/03/2021 10:34:18 58 15
bbc
Unfortunately if you don’t follow ‘the narrative’ you are labelled as a crack pot because the real crack pots are in charge for some reason
91
23/03/2021 10:49:01 3 7
bbc
stupid comment
46
23/03/2021 10:34:36 1 25
bbc
No one on earth is a expert, no such thing as a professional, no one on earth is perfect and never will be, they come up with fake news. wear that mask even had two vaccines why because viruses mutate the Flue as been with us since, humans came to earth by the Adam and Eve. Stop listen to people, and listen to your heart. do what's right for you to stay safe.
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Rob
23/03/2021 10:37:58 7 3
bbc
"Adam and Eve".......Do people still believe in that fairy tale....?
110
23/03/2021 10:57:11 2 0
bbc
So you say, listen to people but not experts? I think I'll listen to the experts and then decide for myself!
25
23/03/2021 10:28:20 23 6
bbc
He's blaming travel, not Europe.

About time millions in UK learned the link.

And stopped demanding foreign holidays.
47
37p
23/03/2021 10:34:40 4 1
bbc
He's not blaming anyone as far as I can see.
He merely made a statement that everyone knows about already.

I wish people would stop reading their own fears into every statement ministers or the government makes.
142
23/03/2021 11:12:12 2 0
bbc
How do you think the virus was going to cross the channel ?

Whether by essential travel like food/medicine deliveries or non essential like hols.

People in NZ and Australia and others have had near normal domestic life for most of the year, as they controlled their borders.

Would you rather have had last 52 wks of near normality, or 1-2 wks in sun or ski and 6-9 months of LD, 125k+ dead etc.?
37
23/03/2021 10:31:57 5 9
bbc
Nature wins again... can we get on with life now...?
48
23/03/2021 10:34:54 1 3
bbc
No, you must obey your government! ??
57
23/03/2021 10:37:29 1 0
bbc
Not mine matey
49
23/03/2021 10:35:11 7 18
bbc
It's the 3rd day of Spring and someone is already issuing warnings about a 'hard winter ahead'. Lady, you know about as much on what's going to happen in 9 months as a £5 fortuneteller.
56
23/03/2021 10:37:01 11 0
bbc
£5 ? They saw you coming
224
23/03/2021 12:36:02 0 0
bbc
The £5 fortune teller wouldn't have the surname 'Whitty' by any chance?
4
KR
23/03/2021 10:19:04 36 4
bbc
Interesting information in this article. It's not to be sniffed at.
50
23/03/2021 10:35:54 11 1
bbc
It certainly is cold comfort to those who might get Covid.
51
23/03/2021 10:36:02 3 19
bbc
Dr Susan Hopkins, from Public Health England: "could this, could that, could the other" PHE has been sadly lacking in all of this and it does not help at all to scaremonger. There has actually been a massive DROP in respiratory illness overall - probably because we are not mixing - and this 'could' continue. Please please please stop PHE from scaremongering - or maybe, BBC, don't report it
70
23/03/2021 10:40:36 10 1
bbc
And you obviously know so much more about highly infectious diseases
Let's take a guess that it was an add on to your degree in media studies
Four years watching TV, literally the definition of a waste of a life
105
23/03/2021 10:55:42 1 0
bbc
Ah, the expert in all things apart from reading or understanding the article - no surprise that this guy is a know-nothing know-it-all - https://www.heart.co.uk/bristol/news/local/survey-on-residents-parking-schemes/
52
23/03/2021 10:36:03 35 0
bbc
More great work by scientists to establish this link, so well done them. All information is useful in this fight against Covid.
53
23/03/2021 10:36:20 11 8
bbc
So what they are really saying is
"We just haven't got a clue what to do!
Does anyone know the way?
There's got to be a way
To Block Covid!"
62
23/03/2021 10:38:23 6 2
bbc
That was a SWEET joke
69
23/03/2021 10:40:10 1 0
bbc
Thanks for your 'Sweet' joke,made me laugh.
138
23/03/2021 11:08:34 2 0
bbc
Who'd have thought the common cold would see the pox on the run ...
307
23/03/2021 18:29:45 0 0
bbc
doof doof doof de doo de doof doof doof de doo de
343
23/03/2021 23:13:48 0 0
bbc
You can start at the famous guys funding labs in Wuhan, I think that is serious do you? Start at the Patents on Coronavirus..
31
23/03/2021 10:29:48 78 6
bbc
When some Scientists were saying this, their reputations were besmirched, their voices silenced! Lesson? Never stifle debate, never ignore those who seem like mavericks. They may just turn out to be right!
54
23/03/2021 10:36:36 14 3
bbc
Absolutely. Thinking outside of the box is crucial for problem solving and advancing science. Trouble is, during these trying times, anything other than mainstream thinking has been labelled as 'science-denying'. We need the "science-deniers" in order to investigate ALL avenues available to us!
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QED
23/03/2021 11:01:56 9 5
bbc
I’m not sure that people who believe the earth is flat, vaccines are going to sterilise us, 5g masts spread covid etc etc are the people I want advising us. Maybe you mean brilliant scientists who are prepared to consider and investigate new theories rather than science deniers.
152
23/03/2021 11:21:51 7 0
bbc
Time to remind the Cultists, as I said I would when I first reproduced this quote some 8 months ago,

“Science is the organized skepticism in the reliability of expert opinion.”

Richard Feynman
55
23/03/2021 10:36:36 53 5
bbc
I guess there'll be people out there who'll deny that the common cold exists :)
64
23/03/2021 10:38:57 18 73
bbc
lots of viruses exist, it's just that ONLY covid matters to this Govt & their ProjectFear 'advisers'
68
23/03/2021 10:39:32 2 7
bbc
Well let's be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they say the common cold has been eradicated soon. I mean, flu cases this last winter were pretty much non-existent.

Covid is wonderful, it has the power to kill off other viruses.
174
23/03/2021 11:45:10 1 8
bbc
The Covid Cult would, Flu and Colds kill the very old and very frail usually, but this year Flu and Colds and a number of other normal killer conditions have all been cured by Covid, certainly not appearing in the mortality stats. The again, a cynic might wonder if Pfizer & Norway had it right, 'the vaccine didn't kill, these people were very old & very ill and would have died anyway.'
253
23/03/2021 13:31:41 1 0
bbc
Not at all. Coronaviruses are also a cause of the common cold. Surprised this article doesn't mention that. Going by this you'd think Covid was the only coronavirus; it isn't. Spreading information wouldn't help spread the fear though so they ignore that.
49
23/03/2021 10:35:11 7 18
bbc
It's the 3rd day of Spring and someone is already issuing warnings about a 'hard winter ahead'. Lady, you know about as much on what's going to happen in 9 months as a £5 fortuneteller.
56
23/03/2021 10:37:01 11 0
bbc
£5 ? They saw you coming
76
23/03/2021 10:41:15 2 0
bbc
Well being a fortune teller they probably did :)
82
23/03/2021 10:43:38 1 0
bbc
;-)
48
23/03/2021 10:34:54 1 3
bbc
No, you must obey your government! ??
57
23/03/2021 10:37:29 1 0
bbc
Not mine matey
58
23/03/2021 10:37:34 6 28
bbc
My God, do you think these people have ever peeled an orange without an extensive risk assessment first??? Why do the BBC keep pandering to ProjectFear?
96
23/03/2021 10:52:43 2 0
bbc
Read the article - this is good news. Information shared does not = ProjectFear!

But slapping that label on all news does prevent education, although I guess you could not be educated about anything as you know it all.
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QED
23/03/2021 10:56:54 2 0
bbc
I always wonder how these idiots who consider risk assessment to be some nebulous project fear have survived this long. Risk assessment is something we all do every day, when we cross a road, drive on a road etc etc. So will you be telling kids not to look first on the grounds that being run over is just project fear. Or is it just project fear when the risk is one you don’t want to admit exists?
44
23/03/2021 10:31:26 1 0
bbc
Will non allergic rhinitis have the same effect?
59
23/03/2021 10:37:43 3 0
bbc
Don’t think so. It’s just a runny nose.
46
23/03/2021 10:34:36 1 25
bbc
No one on earth is a expert, no such thing as a professional, no one on earth is perfect and never will be, they come up with fake news. wear that mask even had two vaccines why because viruses mutate the Flue as been with us since, humans came to earth by the Adam and Eve. Stop listen to people, and listen to your heart. do what's right for you to stay safe.
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Rob
23/03/2021 10:37:58 7 3
bbc
"Adam and Eve".......Do people still believe in that fairy tale....?
74
23/03/2021 10:41:12 0 4
bbc
Keep to the subject about the virus and corona virus do not insult no one you have no power over anyone so grow up.
61
23/03/2021 10:38:16 1 16
bbc
No need for a vaccine then eh? Just get a cold and you're cured :)
53
23/03/2021 10:36:20 11 8
bbc
So what they are really saying is
"We just haven't got a clue what to do!
Does anyone know the way?
There's got to be a way
To Block Covid!"
62
23/03/2021 10:38:23 6 2
bbc
That was a SWEET joke
6
23/03/2021 10:21:52 21 6
bbc
A critical further question then also arises...? If you get a cold when you get your injection can it nullify the vaccination?
63
23/03/2021 10:38:54 7 0
bbc
No
.The immune system will still see the covid spike protein and make antibodies.
55
23/03/2021 10:36:36 53 5
bbc
I guess there'll be people out there who'll deny that the common cold exists :)
64
23/03/2021 10:38:57 18 73
bbc
lots of viruses exist, it's just that ONLY covid matters to this Govt & their ProjectFear 'advisers'
153
23/03/2021 11:21:55 4 5
bbc
I doubt the Gov are pleased to have Covid 19 but can't help feeling they will use "Project Fear" to keep us all in place while they push through draconian legislation, such as the Police and Crime Bill. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone the violence.
They are even now talking about another wave of infections next winter to keep peoples attention away from uncomfortable policies elsewhere.
279
23/03/2021 14:59:14 0 0
bbc
More like project dumbass
284
23/03/2021 15:16:01 3 0
bbc
They’re always called Dave.
Every armchair clown is a Dave
314
23/03/2021 19:10:35 3 1
bbc
Considering how covid-19 has nearly collapsed healthcare systems without lockdown measures, I would say they are right to "ONLY" care about it.
315
23/03/2021 19:12:40 1 1
bbc
Tell that to the families of 126 thousand people who have died from Covid
65
23/03/2021 10:39:13 5 0
bbc
So, engineer a mimic which triggers the same immune response as rhinovirus, and sell it as a nasal spray to be used every so often to reduce the prevalence of corona virus.
144
23/03/2021 11:02:51 2 0
bbc
Why bother, why not just use the existing common cold pathogen against anyone whos COVID infection is becoming more serious, and accept they'll have a cold for 7-10 days. It's not like there's a shortage of it.
21
23/03/2021 10:25:36 12 29
bbc
So basically masks,social distancing etc has helped covid take hold.Herd immunity,colds would have helped our immune systems better.Well done government.
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23/03/2021 10:39:14 9 1
bbc
Easy to say that and be wise after the event [if indeed that turns out to be true.]. I dislike this government for many reasons, but I do not envy them right now having to deal with this.
12
23/03/2021 10:23:17 4 0
bbc
Maybe could be used as part of care for somebody who has bad Covid?...
67
23/03/2021 10:39:27 3 0
bbc
By the time people know they have Covid it's been several days, by the time Covid gets severe it's more like 8-10 days.

The study only mentions a 24 hr lead test.

Be interesting to see if this gets trialled on real patients, in a more advanced stage.
55
23/03/2021 10:36:36 53 5
bbc
I guess there'll be people out there who'll deny that the common cold exists :)
68
23/03/2021 10:39:32 2 7
bbc
Well let's be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they say the common cold has been eradicated soon. I mean, flu cases this last winter were pretty much non-existent.

Covid is wonderful, it has the power to kill off other viruses.
88
23/03/2021 10:47:26 14 0
bbc
If we spend the rest of this year in lockdown, then they'll be no winter flu this year either. If you take protect actions against one respiratory virus you protect against them all.
53
23/03/2021 10:36:20 11 8
bbc
So what they are really saying is
"We just haven't got a clue what to do!
Does anyone know the way?
There's got to be a way
To Block Covid!"
69
23/03/2021 10:40:10 1 0
bbc
Thanks for your 'Sweet' joke,made me laugh.
51
23/03/2021 10:36:02 3 19
bbc
Dr Susan Hopkins, from Public Health England: "could this, could that, could the other" PHE has been sadly lacking in all of this and it does not help at all to scaremonger. There has actually been a massive DROP in respiratory illness overall - probably because we are not mixing - and this 'could' continue. Please please please stop PHE from scaremongering - or maybe, BBC, don't report it
70
23/03/2021 10:40:36 10 1
bbc
And you obviously know so much more about highly infectious diseases
Let's take a guess that it was an add on to your degree in media studies
Four years watching TV, literally the definition of a waste of a life
71
23/03/2021 10:41:02 3 4
bbc
The common cold makes C19 look rather unimpressive. Although keep getting vaccinated people.
72
23/03/2021 10:41:07 7 14
bbc
Ask an 'expert' about Brexit and you'll get endless 'coulds'.

In fact, ask any 'expert' about the future and the same applies...

And I 'could' win the lottery tonight, I 'could' get hit by a car crossing the street, I 'could' be the one in three who succumb to cancer etc...

Life is a game of dice - About time we were allowed to play again...
216
23/03/2021 12:30:36 0 0
bbc
One thing we can tell you about Brexit, the success of Brexit Britain's Vaccine project has caused a bout of mass insanity to break out in the EU, even their favourite Pharma company has a view,

"Exclusive: Pfizer warns EU to back down on Covid vaccine threat to UK

Drugmaker warns Brussels that UK has power to retaliate against any export ban by withholding raw materials shipped from Yorkshire"
20
23/03/2021 10:25:36 0 23
bbc
How the hell is anyone going to catch a cold! Waste of time story...
73
23/03/2021 10:41:09 11 0
bbc
No scientific research is a waste of time. Our modern world is built from discoveries by scientists & often the usefulness of a discovery is only realised years after such research.

Who do you think developed the vaccines? The Oxford one was mostly developed BEFORE Covid existed. All that the scientists had to do was tweak it to make it specific to Covid. Was that prior research a waste of time?
225
23/03/2021 12:38:13 0 0
bbc
Cold fusion research didn't exactly prove fruitful, though I suppose you could claim it confirmed the general opinion there isn't such a thing.
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Rob
23/03/2021 10:37:58 7 3
bbc
"Adam and Eve".......Do people still believe in that fairy tale....?
74
23/03/2021 10:41:12 0 4
bbc
Keep to the subject about the virus and corona virus do not insult no one you have no power over anyone so grow up.
43
23/03/2021 10:33:13 108 9
bbc
Love how comments after an article brings all the pub scientists out, and their inevitable 'theories'! Usually this involves anyone who is more intelligent than them, being wrong.

Research like this brings new knowledge. It may turn out to be useful, it may not be. It might lead to new vaccines, or help with decision making. Who knows, but its better to have the knowledge, than not.
75
23/03/2021 10:41:14 15 3
bbc
I would love to be a pub scientist. Luckily I stayed safe last Summer by having bowl of cheesy chips with my drinks.
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LH
23/03/2021 14:37:08 2 0
bbc
'Pub scientist'; degrees in Brewing are available!!
56
23/03/2021 10:37:01 11 0
bbc
£5 ? They saw you coming
76
23/03/2021 10:41:15 2 0
bbc
Well being a fortune teller they probably did :)
77
TCM
23/03/2021 10:35:07 10 0
bbc
It's like war of the worlds!
78
23/03/2021 10:42:26 25 0
bbc
Read War of The Worlds

The common cold did for the Martians !
181
23/03/2021 11:52:48 7 23
bbc
Are you sure? Did they die 'of' it or 'with' it, or maybe they developed a test and counted dying within 28 days of passing the test? That and the historical example of the Americas isolation broken by Europeans is why a general lock-down is madness. The young and immune should NEVER have been locked-down, Chinese CCP madness repeated in the west & now our freedoms don't appear to be coming back
6
23/03/2021 10:21:52 21 6
bbc
A critical further question then also arises...? If you get a cold when you get your injection can it nullify the vaccination?
79
23/03/2021 10:42:52 4 0
bbc
Not sure why you're getting down-votes - it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask, especially considering vaccines like the AstraZeneca one are based on similar viruses. No-one will know for certain unless someone actually does (or has done) an experiment to find out.
80
23/03/2021 10:43:02 3 23
bbc
They really are clueless. What a useless profession.
104
23/03/2021 10:54:50 2 0
bbc
Clearly your the clueless luddite here
81
23/03/2021 10:43:06 13 0
bbc
So it turns out it is a good thing scientists have never managed to cure the common cold.
163
23/03/2021 11:30:19 8 0
bbc
They could cure one strain but it would just mutate and make the vaccine ineffective. Sound familiar?
56
23/03/2021 10:37:01 11 0
bbc
£5 ? They saw you coming
82
23/03/2021 10:43:38 1 0
bbc
;-)
83
23/03/2021 10:43:46 52 3
bbc
So much scientific knowledge gained about a brand new virus and how to treat infections in such a short space of time. It really shows the value of funding scientific research and development within universities and businesses. Shows what can be done when all attention is focused on humanity's shared goals.
155
23/03/2021 11:24:34 22 3
bbc
All we need now is a vaccine against stupidity. Sadly that seems a forlorn hope, reading some of these comments.
176
23/03/2021 11:47:36 3 3
bbc
wait until the consequences of ignoring Humanity's need to earn a living to focus on the new Not the Black-Death, comes home roost, before you rejoice at the 67 Million man/woman years the UK sacrificed to 'save the NHS'.
269
23/03/2021 14:43:04 0 0
bbc
Yet, there is no treatment recommended to stop you needing hospital admission. NHS website says, rest, fluids and paracetamol. Surely there is something better! //www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/how-to-treat-symptoms-at-home/
84
23/03/2021 10:43:48 3 0
bbc
But I never get colds. Does that mean I am super-immune or super-vulnerable?
95
23/03/2021 10:52:23 1 14
bbc
I always get colds when the new term starts in September but never get flu
perhaps the common cold boots influenza out too
It's a shame this article conflates the two.
203
23/03/2021 12:16:27 0 1
bbc
IF you are alive and well, and haven't been living in a space suit for the past year, then maybe you are super-immune as vast numbers of the population are. Though it didn't stop HMG for locking us down. (The did well with the vaccine however, brilliantly compared to others)
85
23/03/2021 10:45:07 6 8
bbc
Keep to the subject and stop your insults because they never work on me. open ones eyes see what's real a virus killing millions when this Government got it all wrong from the start not like South Korea they hardly had cases like we have, they did track and trace faster and we did and lock down faster and masks word so blame our slow Government who have got it all wrong. truth hurts weak people.
90
23/03/2021 10:48:58 3 1
bbc
SE Asia has generally been less affected than the west, and previous SARS Coronavirus outbreaks may have given those populations a mild protection from the severe diseases.

Thats research that I would love to see.
209
23/03/2021 12:21:50 0 0
bbc
South Korea, old bean, like much of Asia is now believed to have a very similar thing to the subject of this article, cross viral immunity, tho' based on MERS and SAARS, Africa's cross viral immunity is believed to be based on other viruses, including chicken-pox. OR Prof Ferguson's model was just based on cr@p assumptions and poor programming, as many now suggest but the BBC don't report.
86
23/03/2021 10:45:09 5 1
bbc
Interesting! Perhaps this is why young people are less affected? They tend to have a lot more colds, whereas older adults without children have fewer, especially those of retiring age where there is much less interaction with youngsters. Should we have 'cold parties' (like chicken pox ones) to create bubbles. Food for thought!
9
23/03/2021 10:22:14 6 11
bbc
But no one will be catching the common cold if masks and distancing is remaining in place so what does this research seek to do?
87
23/03/2021 10:45:18 0 0
bbc
No masks or distancing at nursery or when the toddlers come home to the rest of the family. What do you think is wrong with the 95% of folk who think they may have covid but test shows otherwise?
68
23/03/2021 10:39:32 2 7
bbc
Well let's be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they say the common cold has been eradicated soon. I mean, flu cases this last winter were pretty much non-existent.

Covid is wonderful, it has the power to kill off other viruses.
88
23/03/2021 10:47:26 14 0
bbc
If we spend the rest of this year in lockdown, then they'll be no winter flu this year either. If you take protect actions against one respiratory virus you protect against them all.
31
23/03/2021 10:29:48 78 6
bbc
When some Scientists were saying this, their reputations were besmirched, their voices silenced! Lesson? Never stifle debate, never ignore those who seem like mavericks. They may just turn out to be right!
89
23/03/2021 10:48:42 6 1
bbc
Remember when: Prince Charles was ridiculed for saying that we were damaging the environment - Green Peace saying we were damaging the seas - scientists saying there was a hole in the ozone layer - scientists saying that cutting down trees in the rain forests was causing weather problems - scientists saying that using fossil fuel was causing acid rain, etc etc? Yes we do need to open ears & minds.
158
23/03/2021 11:26:37 3 3
bbc
Issues that have or are being addressed. Science doesn't stand still. We were living in best times in human history that there has ever been. Poverty was on the way to being eliminated until the Covid lock-downs destroyed the global economy. Bjorn Lomborg is worth listening to, not the apocalyptic Malthusians who love mankind but hate people.
85
23/03/2021 10:45:07 6 8
bbc
Keep to the subject and stop your insults because they never work on me. open ones eyes see what's real a virus killing millions when this Government got it all wrong from the start not like South Korea they hardly had cases like we have, they did track and trace faster and we did and lock down faster and masks word so blame our slow Government who have got it all wrong. truth hurts weak people.
90
23/03/2021 10:48:58 3 1
bbc
SE Asia has generally been less affected than the west, and previous SARS Coronavirus outbreaks may have given those populations a mild protection from the severe diseases.

Thats research that I would love to see.
45
23/03/2021 10:34:18 58 15
bbc
Unfortunately if you don’t follow ‘the narrative’ you are labelled as a crack pot because the real crack pots are in charge for some reason
91
23/03/2021 10:49:01 3 7
bbc
stupid comment
165
23/03/2021 11:33:15 6 1
bbc
only in your mind, it is exactly true. The BBC banned 2 of my usernames some months back because I repeatedly posted links to the likes of Professor Heneghan & Oxford's Centre for Evidence Based Medicine, who early on in this pandemic contradicted Ferguson's doomsday model assumptions by using actual data. Also Prof Sunetra Gupta who was vilified, probably by the likes of you for her views.
92
23/03/2021 10:50:08 2 9
bbc
The total nonsense being spouted about this what they called covid 19. With the record amount of aging population across the world I am surprised the death rates are so low because of the amount of elderly people. An even faster way of getting the numbers down is to stop keep saying that people died of covid when they died of something else. Tens of thousands of falsified death certificates.
129
23/03/2021 10:55:08 0 0
bbc
Very true, the died within 28 days of a positive test figure is almost laughable. How many of them did not die of covid?
145
23/03/2021 11:13:26 2 0
bbc
"Tens of thousands of falsified death certificates" and you know this how?
93
23/03/2021 10:50:45 8 3
bbc
One article in one journal, no evidence of repeat findings elsewhere , no peer reviews, no support elsewhere and the journalists publish this as if it is fact. Such poor Science education among journalists.....
98
23/03/2021 10:53:00 2 15
bbc
It seems to conflate influenza and the common cold.
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L_W
23/03/2021 12:33:54 0 0
bbc
You could add many of the papers published without peer review on Covid-19 this past year & the bias of publications refusing to publish papers where the results contradict the approved narrative. One could also comment on the standard of scientific understanding in the general population too.... Again poor reporting by the scientific journalists.
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23/03/2021 10:32:39 1 22
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Absolutely. But hold on Boris has now up’d the fearporn with the 3rd wave nonsense. So apparently getting vaxxed is worthless! Let the sheep carry on.??????
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23/03/2021 10:50:58 6 1
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A pair of stupid comments. Very selfish and unhelpful
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23/03/2021 11:06:21 0 2
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AstraZeneca translates to weapon that kills
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23/03/2021 10:43:48 3 0
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But I never get colds. Does that mean I am super-immune or super-vulnerable?
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23/03/2021 10:52:23 1 14
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I always get colds when the new term starts in September but never get flu
perhaps the common cold boots influenza out too
It's a shame this article conflates the two.
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23/03/2021 10:37:34 6 28
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My God, do you think these people have ever peeled an orange without an extensive risk assessment first??? Why do the BBC keep pandering to ProjectFear?
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23/03/2021 10:52:43 2 0
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Read the article - this is good news. Information shared does not = ProjectFear!

But slapping that label on all news does prevent education, although I guess you could not be educated about anything as you know it all.
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23/03/2021 12:40:36 0 0
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LOL the most censorius media in history and you say that! I've have 2 username banned by the BBC for repeatedly posting links to eminent scientists who almost from the start disputed Fergusons now debunked modelling, and the Covid Cult hysteria, and now their views are having to be reported because they were right!
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23/03/2021 10:52:59 4 3
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So we may have been better carrying on as normal and letting nature take care of it rather than politicians .
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23/03/2021 10:50:45 8 3
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One article in one journal, no evidence of repeat findings elsewhere , no peer reviews, no support elsewhere and the journalists publish this as if it is fact. Such poor Science education among journalists.....
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23/03/2021 10:53:00 2 15
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It seems to conflate influenza and the common cold.
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23/03/2021 10:31:47 8 98
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Not entirely sure how this is beneficial. In layman's it says if you catch a cold you're less likely to catch covid. Who benefits from knowing that exactly?
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23/03/2021 10:53:01 17 1
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Well I would say it is beneficial to know that if you have a common cold you are less likely to catch Covid.
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23/03/2021 11:04:47 1 10
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To say it is beneficial would imply anyone would have a choice in which virus they contract; it would also imply that person could tell the difference and know what they had.
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23/03/2021 10:53:10 1 7
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""We could see surges in flu. We could see surges in other respiratory viruses and other respiratory pathogens," she said,"

The Corona grift that never ends. These jokers will have us in lockdown forever if they get their way. Best thing Trump ever did was spot what a phoney flip-flop expert Dr Fauci was in the States.
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23/03/2021 11:00:07 2 2
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Flip-flop expert indeed. Luckily Trump was wise enough to kill tens of thousands of Americans through his studied ignorance.