Covid vaccine: US trial of AstraZeneca jab confirms safety
22/03/2021 | news | health | 381
Regulators in America have been waiting for these results to decide on approval.
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22/03/2021 16:10:45 34 2
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Well I'm convinced
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22/03/2021 16:19:16 23 2
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I always have been
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23/03/2021 11:23:56 0 0
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Nice to have a crystal ball......
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22/03/2021 16:11:31 51 12
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Classic EU cockup.
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22/03/2021 16:26:27 19 8
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Not EU cock-up, but certainly a cock-up by some EU (and also some non-EU) *countries*. The EU health authority, along with the WHO, has consistently and vocally maintained that the AZ vaccine is safe.
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22/03/2021 16:27:48 4 9
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classic torybot ;)
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22/03/2021 16:34:45 6 4
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So why is the UK moaning about the EU keeping their stock?
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22/03/2021 16:48:32 4 4
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Nice if you had some understanding about what has been going on.
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22/03/2021 16:12:02 108 7
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Had my jab last Tueday without hesitation. Our scientists have been positive about the vaccine for a while and I've had, and continue to have, a huge amount of faith in them.
Sad to see some European politicans ignoring their own scientitsts and this is damaging the vaccine effort in Europe.
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22/03/2021 16:21:18 24 101
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Our scientists?....Many of those who developed the vaccine were not "owned" by the UK....in fact many are European....
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22/03/2021 16:25:05 0 69
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Is that the same vaccine that the manufacturers have absolved all responsibility? The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?

You have more faith in it than the people who made it.
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22/03/2021 16:49:04 1 21
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Yes, we can only really trust "our" scientists about the vaccines, even when our scientists, ones who made it happen, include people from all over the world. Jingoistic, little Britain nonsense.
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22/03/2021 17:02:09 2 9
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'Our scientists...'. You need to educate yourself...only very stupid Tory politicians recognize boundaries... not scientists.
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22/03/2021 16:12:07 101 11
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Another great set of results and another set of results that make the EU look silly.
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22/03/2021 16:19:07 19 113
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So the EU have already said it is safe....the US haven't.....and these results make the EU look silly??. ..your reasoning baffles me...I bet you vote Tory...
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22/03/2021 16:28:03 12 0
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Well, not the EU per se, but most certainly some EU countries (the EU health authority has consistently and strongly maintained the safety of the AZ vaccine).
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23/03/2021 08:55:04 0 0
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This article refers to the results of an additional trial the FDA insisted on after they criticized AZ’s first trial for inconsistencies (timing, dosage, batch quality) and poor transparency regarding safety issues. Did you think they are doing another trial just for fun? The FDA requested additional data before approving AZ. Sounds to me like they are pretty much in line with the EU.
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22/03/2021 16:12:46 16 3
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This is good news. The sooner that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approves it, the better.
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22/03/2021 16:12:58 62 11
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That's a slap in the face for some of the EU countries....
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22/03/2021 16:27:30 8 43
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Silly comment !
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22/03/2021 16:38:28 4 15
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Why is it a slap in the face for EU countries? It just shows that the US were far more cautious in the approval process than the UK and EU. The UK were willing to gamble because of our high covid death rate. Even now we have about 52,000 more covid deaths than Germany.
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22/03/2021 16:14:42 9 28
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Where's the reporting of mass rallies and police brutality on Saturday, Auntie? Not just London, but across Europe and beyond. We're not all enthralled with the cult of covid.
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22/03/2021 16:21:42 6 0
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Perhaps because they didn't happen? Where do you get your news - The Beano?
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22/03/2021 16:32:40 2 0
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It really is only the anti-vaccine crowd who could reasonably be decribed as a cult. Irrational beliefs: check. Rejecting or ignoring mainstream media and science rather “doing their own research” check. No credible motive for their conspiracy: check.
Something needs to be done about the ability of bad actors to broadcast nonsense on social media and affect us all.
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22/03/2021 16:34:39 1 0
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Absolutely disgusting the way the police were throwing fireworks at people and setting fire to vehicles.
PS the rallies were supposed to be about a new bill which I admit does give rise to concern BUT not in Europe and does not justify the violence by a few.
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22/03/2021 16:16:07 61 5
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More good news, and this just further supports all the evidence. Sadly the image of this remarkable vaccine has been damaged in the EU - perhaps when they see 100% effective in preventing serious illness, it will encourage more to have it.
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22/03/2021 16:24:40 49 9
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They know the vaccine is safe already. They had to trash its reputation in order to stop demand for something they simply do not have due to their useless preparations.
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22/03/2021 16:16:51 32 3
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Yes, I like piña coladas
And gettin' caught in the rain
I'm not much into health food
I am into AZ vaccine
I've need to get my jab by tomorrow noon
And cut through all this red tape
At a vaccine centre in Salisbury
Where we'll plan our escape
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22/03/2021 16:31:33 5 5
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I see some appreciate your effort ??
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22/03/2021 16:38:14 5 1
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Love this ! Best post today.
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:21:24 15 1
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Are you comparing the vaccine to thalidomide? I think that you are a disgusting person for doing so & if the BBC moderates me for 'hateful' remarks then I don't give a flying
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22/03/2021 16:23:04 10 0
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!00% certainty that with no vaccine some unfortunate pregnant women would be dead with Covid.
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22/03/2021 16:22:21 10 0
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, lived to a ripe old age and enjoyed a healthy life. By this thinking - no one would take any medication, let alone vaccine.
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22/03/2021 16:25:29 8 0
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Oh dear not another anti-vaxer! It's this sort of drivel that causes damage, not vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:29:13 6 0
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Duh -if you are trying to compare this with drugs like thalidomide then note thalidomide is a drug NOT a vaccine. There is a very BIG difference. As far as I am aware no-one has given birth to a unhealthy baby due to smallpox, flu or polio vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:15:30 93 13
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The EU have acted despicably and have shown themselves for what they are, incompetent self interested bureaucrats
They are acting politically to undermine the UK who they fear as a successful rival
Glad we left
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22/03/2021 16:28:23 10 82
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Up is down, black is white, you torybots are crass and trite.
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22/03/2021 16:34:58 8 19
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Don't you think that you ought to obtain a bit of an understanding about what has been happening before commenting? What is worrying is that quite a few people on here have agreed with you.
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22/03/2021 21:15:08 2 3
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So what was/is individuals such as Dominic Cummings and David Frost to you?
Where else other than vaccines have we been proven to be a "Successful Rival"?

Does your hypocrisy know no bounds? Do you even bother to research if what you are stating is true?

From your statement, it is clear that you don't, and if you don't care about yourself, why do you expect the EU to care about your opinion?
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22/03/2021 16:15:48 45 9
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I wonder if the EU will stop the scaremongering now, doubt it and I think their politicking has already done the damage.
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22/03/2021 16:25:28 14 18
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The EU and the European regulator have always said that the AZ vaccine is safe. Macron questioned it, i.e. the French President. Like the EU or not, making false statements on here isn't really helpful.
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22/03/2021 16:29:52 11 1
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The EU didn't scaremonger, some EU states did. The first state to overreact to a trivial and easily dealt with doubt was Norway, not a member. The others followed Norway because anti-vax clowns have managed to sow an atmosphere of panic among enough of several European populations that politicians started panicking.
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22/03/2021 16:17:42 16 12
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Darn this wont suit the EU good, UK bad agenda... perhaps thats why they waited 8 hours to open comments....
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22/03/2021 16:21:39 8 8
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Perhaps it doesn't suit your anti-BBC agenda that they reported it as headline news and opened up comments to it.
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22/03/2021 16:33:10 0 3
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Now, you would-n't b-e a tory bo-t would you ?
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22/03/2021 16:18:26 49 1
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I'd like to think this will finally put the doubts about this vaccine to bed, partially with our continental neighbours.. But I'm not hold my breath.
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22/03/2021 16:20:16 8 4
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ing
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22/03/2021 16:21:37 1 20
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What are the long term problems 6 months, a year, a decade later? Noone knows so there is still doubt.
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22/03/2021 16:18:27 23 5
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I wonder - did the EU delay because of concerns or because they didn't have enough vaccine and didn't want to admit it? Either way - what an EUnormos shambles !
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22/03/2021 16:22:14 24 8
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It had nothing to do with the safety of their citizens. It was partly because they messed up with the orders, partly because they hate the UK to be seen doing well outside of their racket.
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22/03/2021 16:28:57 1 6
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what a tory.
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22/03/2021 16:12:07 101 11
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Another great set of results and another set of results that make the EU look silly.
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22/03/2021 16:19:07 19 113
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So the EU have already said it is safe....the US haven't.....and these results make the EU look silly??. ..your reasoning baffles me...I bet you vote Tory...
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22/03/2021 16:21:50 23 3
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Oh jimbo, calm down
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22/03/2021 16:27:02 1 16
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Spot the torybot ??
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22/03/2021 16:27:42 16 8
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I bet you are a remoaner, I hope for your sake you can one day move on with your life :)
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22/03/2021 16:46:05 3 18
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Totally agree. The EU didn't have conclusive data initially and were cautious. We were desperate and took the gamble in approving but we had to. Even now, our covid deaths are about 52,000 higher than that in Germany.
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22/03/2021 17:29:55 10 2
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You can tell a persons political views from a single piece of data? BTW Numerous states in the US have been using the AstraZeneca vaccine since it was first available. Your reasoning baffles me. Try thinking instead of producing a purely emotional response. You voted Remain. You lost. Deal with it and move on. Facts beat subjective opinions every time.
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22/03/2021 18:45:33 8 4
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Nope, the EU procurement program and the consequences and melt down after its failure is what makes the EU look silly. Todays news on USA approval reinforces that. The USA didn't threaten to block exports, rubbish the efficacy, get senior politicians to rubbish it driving down confidence and take up, suspend its use or threaten AZ with legal action during it's approval time frame, that was the EU.
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22/03/2021 20:02:40 0 0
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To be fair, the US have a few vaccines of their own being used, so there is less pressure to ok the AZ vaccine.
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23/03/2021 11:53:44 0 1
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The US has just approved it, wake up Jimbo. The Eu has approved it for 18 years and up. But 7 Eu countries still refuse to give it and France wont give it to anyone under 55.... That is 'silly' and makes them look silly. GET IT NOW JIMBO?
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22/03/2021 16:10:45 34 2
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Well I'm convinced
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22/03/2021 16:19:16 23 2
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I always have been
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22/03/2021 16:18:26 49 1
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I'd like to think this will finally put the doubts about this vaccine to bed, partially with our continental neighbours.. But I'm not hold my breath.
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22/03/2021 16:20:16 8 4
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ing
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22/03/2021 16:20:46 102 6
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Apparently its not effective if you are French and aged above 65 or below 55 but works on everyone else very well.
Must react with over eating onions. Removed
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22/03/2021 18:57:55 1 7
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or not particularly effective if you have the SA variant.
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22/03/2021 16:20:47 2 3
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I'm so glad it is found to be safe now I've had it. I'm not sure anything can ever be proven to be safe. What happens in 10 years time, there is no way to know but wait.
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22/03/2021 16:41:05 3 0
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Nothing in life is 100% safe. What is 100%, is death. So, I take the vaccine, like I took MMR, Polio, Yellow fever, Hep, anti malarial et al. By the way, I did not stick pencils up my nose and put a handkerchief on my head.
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22/03/2021 16:21:14 90 4
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Well done our government for getting a vaccine that doesn’t cost the earth too. Astra Zeneca are not making huge sums of money out of it, unlike other companies.
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22/03/2021 16:23:44 26 2
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Russia expects to make €20bn from Sputnik sales this year. Their own population is 4% vaccinated.
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22/03/2021 16:33:34 1 7
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hancock - jail or promotion ??
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22/03/2021 18:59:03 1 3
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too bad if you buy millions of doses means nothing- it will never arrive unless you live in the uk
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22/03/2021 19:53:44 1 3
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The profit is later, post-pandemic when the world needs annual covid topups like flu vaccines.

Still, they're doing it now at no profit when the world needs it most (estimated $1bn sales this year vs $17bn for Pfizer's vaccine!).
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22/03/2021 20:04:23 3 0
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From what I understand, the other western vaccine developers are also throwing profit out the window for covid-19 vaccines. I couldn't provide a source if you asked though.
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22/03/2021 16:12:02 108 7
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Had my jab last Tueday without hesitation. Our scientists have been positive about the vaccine for a while and I've had, and continue to have, a huge amount of faith in them.
Sad to see some European politicans ignoring their own scientitsts and this is damaging the vaccine effort in Europe.
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22/03/2021 16:21:18 24 101
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Our scientists?....Many of those who developed the vaccine were not "owned" by the UK....in fact many are European....
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22/03/2021 16:39:53 38 4
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I think you need to grow up. Any reasonable person would consider the term "our scientists" to include people of all nationalities who are working for a UK institution, organisation or for the benefit of UK citizens. To take such a narrow minded interpretation of the phrase as implying ownership or some sort of anti-foreign agenda is just childish and unhelpful.
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22/03/2021 16:47:27 5 1
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AstraZeneca Plc is a UK listed company !!
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22/03/2021 17:01:00 5 0
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You hoe an altogether different row to the majority. To be provocative, political or perhaps plain unenlightened I ask myself?
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22/03/2021 17:29:05 8 0
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It was developed by Oxford University scientists and headed by British Scientists and mass produced by a British-Swedish company...oh and the production plants based in Britain have been far more..ahem..productive than EU plants as many will have noticed. Yes OUR Scientists..your displeasure pleases me.
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22/03/2021 18:36:50 1 5
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UK venture capital though. Maybe they should have worked on Sanofi... The collapse of which has placed the EU block in the current mess.
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23/03/2021 11:50:57 0 0
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We are all Europeans we are just no longer part of the Eu Commissions protectionist club, they are different
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:21:24 15 1
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Are you comparing the vaccine to thalidomide? I think that you are a disgusting person for doing so & if the BBC moderates me for 'hateful' remarks then I don't give a flying
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22/03/2021 16:31:37 1 6
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What if something indeed happened? Nobody can say for certain. I’m not taking the vaccine for this reason. Looking to start a family. Not anti-vax in any way but I’ll happily take a pass on it.
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22/03/2021 16:18:26 49 1
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I'd like to think this will finally put the doubts about this vaccine to bed, partially with our continental neighbours.. But I'm not hold my breath.
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22/03/2021 16:21:37 1 20
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What are the long term problems 6 months, a year, a decade later? Noone knows so there is still doubt.
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22/03/2021 17:25:38 7 0
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There's also a list long as a library covering the long term effects of a pathogen infection.
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22/03/2021 16:17:42 16 12
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Darn this wont suit the EU good, UK bad agenda... perhaps thats why they waited 8 hours to open comments....
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22/03/2021 16:21:39 8 8
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Perhaps it doesn't suit your anti-BBC agenda that they reported it as headline news and opened up comments to it.
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22/03/2021 16:27:16 1 1
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I would agree - but I have seen comment sections on breaking new sections before. BBC should really just have a comment section per article or retire the feature. It'd stop all the tiring arguments over whether or not they are trying to steer the narrative.
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22/03/2021 16:14:42 9 28
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Where's the reporting of mass rallies and police brutality on Saturday, Auntie? Not just London, but across Europe and beyond. We're not all enthralled with the cult of covid.
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22/03/2021 16:21:42 6 0
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Perhaps because they didn't happen? Where do you get your news - The Beano?
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22/03/2021 16:29:58 0 2
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Comics provide a better balance of position and events than the shameful MSM, at this point. Your denial is sad, but predictable. Broaden the net when it comes to news. A healthy debate is surely what we all want? Dictats from fearmongering are not in the common interest.
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22/03/2021 16:19:07 19 113
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So the EU have already said it is safe....the US haven't.....and these results make the EU look silly??. ..your reasoning baffles me...I bet you vote Tory...
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22/03/2021 16:21:50 23 3
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Oh jimbo, calm down
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22/03/2021 16:40:55 21 2
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Yes technically the EU (science community) did say it was OK, but it's their politicians (and a few other idiots) that seem unable to grasp the fact that blood clots happen in around 40 per 17 million people anyway. It never occurs to them that the most likely way of having a clot or otherwise dying at present, is to get Covid-19
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22/03/2021 16:21:57 115 6
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So it's really Macron that is "quasi-ineffective".
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22/03/2021 16:48:04 50 3
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It’s bad enough him and his oppos talking out of their ****s to the detriment of their citizens but the ongoing issue of confidence in what has now been proven to be an effective vaccine will no doubt have a fatal knock on effect. Shameful excuses for leaders.
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22/03/2021 18:56:23 1 8
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No its the fact that it is not particularly effective against the SA variant.
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23/03/2021 08:09:49 2 0
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Macron’s problem is that the French effort to develop an effective vaccine in France was a failure. So he felt the need to talk down Britain/ Sweden’s successful Astra-Zeneca vaccine development. But it is his people who will pay the price in excess unnecessary deaths, as they now refuse in large numbers to take the Astra-Zeneca vaccine because of a tiny number of unproven heath issue reports.
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23/03/2021 11:48:51 0 0
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Mega ineffective
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23/03/2021 11:49:04 1 0
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No, not "quasi"!
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22/03/2021 16:18:27 23 5
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I wonder - did the EU delay because of concerns or because they didn't have enough vaccine and didn't want to admit it? Either way - what an EUnormos shambles !
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22/03/2021 16:22:14 24 8
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It had nothing to do with the safety of their citizens. It was partly because they messed up with the orders, partly because they hate the UK to be seen doing well outside of their racket.
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22/03/2021 16:30:47 1 6
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trumper
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22/03/2021 16:31:16 1 3
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Nice if you knew what has been going on.
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:23:04 10 0
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!00% certainty that with no vaccine some unfortunate pregnant women would be dead with Covid.
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22/03/2021 16:23:17 60 7
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"further reassure some EU countries"

The only reason that reassurance is needed is because of Macron / Merkel trying to distract their citizens from the appalling way they've handled their vaccination programme.

First they wanted to jump the queue, then they said it didn't work, now they're trying to stop it being sent abroad by seizing legitimate purchases.

Like a banana republic ...
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22/03/2021 16:28:06 20 3
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Notice how none of the trials have taken place in the EU? What does that tell you about their approach to all of this?
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22/03/2021 16:29:19 6 18
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Reality is that it is Johnson who is trying to distract citizens. Don't forget we still have 52,000 more covid deaths than Germany.
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Banoffee Sanofi!
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22/03/2021 16:21:14 90 4
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Well done our government for getting a vaccine that doesn’t cost the earth too. Astra Zeneca are not making huge sums of money out of it, unlike other companies.
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22/03/2021 16:23:44 26 2
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Russia expects to make €20bn from Sputnik sales this year. Their own population is 4% vaccinated.
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22/03/2021 19:55:25 2 0
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Pfft. No one in the world is modelling Sputnik sales at that level. That's 40% more than the expected global sales of Pfizer's vaccine this year.

Source?
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23/03/2021 16:43:50 0 0
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The profits are despicable. However, Russian vaccine is scientifically interesting. It's similar to Oxford in many ways. Some scientist suggest cross vaccination (one Oxford one Sputnik) could be beneficial in stopping new mutations. Science doesn't have borders and there's plenty of work to be done to confirm this.
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:22:21 10 0
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, lived to a ripe old age and enjoyed a healthy life. By this thinking - no one would take any medication, let alone vaccine.
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22/03/2021 16:16:07 61 5
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More good news, and this just further supports all the evidence. Sadly the image of this remarkable vaccine has been damaged in the EU - perhaps when they see 100% effective in preventing serious illness, it will encourage more to have it.
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22/03/2021 16:24:40 49 9
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They know the vaccine is safe already. They had to trash its reputation in order to stop demand for something they simply do not have due to their useless preparations.
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22/03/2021 16:32:23 0 10
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Cameron's porcine friends agree ;)
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22/03/2021 16:12:02 108 7
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Had my jab last Tueday without hesitation. Our scientists have been positive about the vaccine for a while and I've had, and continue to have, a huge amount of faith in them.
Sad to see some European politicans ignoring their own scientitsts and this is damaging the vaccine effort in Europe.
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22/03/2021 16:25:05 0 69
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Is that the same vaccine that the manufacturers have absolved all responsibility? The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?

You have more faith in it than the people who made it.
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22/03/2021 16:35:03 28 0
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I have faith in the very well established science used to test it. The scientifically illiterate meanwhile would rather take their chances with a disease that kills 3-5 in every 1000 who catch it and hospitalises 5-10x that.
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22/03/2021 16:35:35 35 0
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I think your tin foil hat is ready for collection
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22/03/2021 16:36:23 35 0
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"The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?"

Fake news that we could do very well without.
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22/03/2021 16:39:58 26 0
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I've seen first hand what covid does to people. Scientists across Europe, including some in the UK, have set out how this has been trialled. Good luck to you as you clearly are going to take you chances despite no evidence to suggest that not having the vaccine is a less risky approach
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22/03/2021 16:40:22 30 0
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It's the same vaccine that tens of millions of people have already had with mild side-effects and no evidence of safety issues - you know, the one which is rapidly reducing hospitalisations in our country.
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22/03/2021 16:45:45 15 1
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Care to share details of your insurance policy and the small print which you have so diligently located?
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22/03/2021 16:50:39 12 0
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There is no conspiracy there, it is a standard approach for vaccines ... see the full list of vaccines that are underwritten by the UK Government over many years, it is not new:

https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/eligibility
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22/03/2021 18:37:08 2 2
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Incorrect.
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22/03/2021 16:15:48 45 9
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I wonder if the EU will stop the scaremongering now, doubt it and I think their politicking has already done the damage.
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22/03/2021 16:25:28 14 18
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The EU and the European regulator have always said that the AZ vaccine is safe. Macron questioned it, i.e. the French President. Like the EU or not, making false statements on here isn't really helpful.
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22/03/2021 18:55:18 2 2
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All European countries that suspended the AZ vaccine were part of the EU procurement program. That is what let them down not blood clots or lack of data, that is politics.
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:25:29 8 0
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Oh dear not another anti-vaxer! It's this sort of drivel that causes damage, not vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:28:32 0 6
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Are you saying it is totally safe for pregnant women then?
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22/03/2021 16:25:37 3 19
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Well Done NHS and International Science !!

A shame that International Scientific Collaboration has been reduced by the conservative government.
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22/03/2021 16:26:10 6 11
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The EU never said it was unsafe, countries within the EU (and some outside of it, such as Iceland) paused its rollout. Stop swallowing the Daily Mail / Daily Express's agenda.
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22/03/2021 16:30:54 2 1
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so would their citizens
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22/03/2021 17:03:09 1 0
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Iceland is outside the EU in name only; Schengen, Economic area etc still apply. Sort of zombie statehood the EU hoped UK would adopt when it left

The EU can't act like a sovereign power with foreign policy collective action etc when it suits then hide behind individual gov't actions when it's inconvenient. Germany, France etc have acted horrendously over AZ vaccine to the detriment of everyone
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22/03/2021 16:26:18 45 4
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If only we could be 100% safe from serious mistakes from Macron, Merkel and Ursula Von der Liar then we would all be in a better position.
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22/03/2021 16:11:31 51 12
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Classic EU cockup.
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22/03/2021 16:26:27 19 8
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Not EU cock-up, but certainly a cock-up by some EU (and also some non-EU) *countries*. The EU health authority, along with the WHO, has consistently and vocally maintained that the AZ vaccine is safe.
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22/03/2021 18:52:09 1 3
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The whole mess started with the collapse of the EU procurement program. Everything since has been driven by that and that alone.
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22/03/2021 21:25:48 3 1
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The amount of comments on this HYS and in the country as a whole that are incapable of understanding that fundamental difference, really is shocking.

The EU scepticism of the AZ vaccine ended in January when the EMA approved it, but you still have the same individuals spamming the same 2 month old nonsense and can't even tell the difference between France and the EU...

We should all be worried.
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22/03/2021 16:26:32 4 10
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Perton66
16:12
Had my jab last Tueday without hesitation. Our scientists have been positive about the vaccine for a while and I've had, and continue to have, a huge amount of faith in them.
Sad to see some European politicans ignoring their own scientitsts and this is damaging the vaccine effort in Europe.

Spot the bot ??
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22/03/2021 16:26:36 9 0
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This news won’t reach the hard core of anti-Vaxxers who now don’t trust the bbc and think all mainstream media is colluding with the drug companies and government to control and inject us with poisons. Or a whole host of other irrational sets of beliefs. Something needs to be done about the ability of bad actors to broadcast nonsense on social media and affect us all. It’s so, so dangerous.
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22/03/2021 16:35:43 7 0
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Agree, work with vulnerable adults and they are targeted with this rubbish on Whatsapp etc. As fast as they block one, another pops up. If you want a laugh check out Matt Hancocks Facebook page, they're out in force there. I get a perverse pleasure in debunking their claims.
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23/03/2021 11:37:46 0 0
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.....and you know the short/long term effects? Many approved vaccines have later to be proven to do more harm than good.
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22/03/2021 16:26:54 13 1
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No doubt the EU will still find a reason not to launch a desperately needed publicity marketing campaign to drive take-up of it. At the moment, they would find it difficult to find 4 million EU citizens, let alone 400 million to match what they ordered, to take the doses.... and they are worried about supply issues!
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22/03/2021 22:04:31 1 1
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But the EU and the EMA have consistently stated that the AZ vaccine is safe to use ever since they approved it.

They are not responsible if citizens in it's member states still refuse to take it. That is on the anti-vaxxers for being their notorious selves and being utterly delusional as they always are.

Stop spreading misinformation.
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22/03/2021 16:19:07 19 113
bbc
So the EU have already said it is safe....the US haven't.....and these results make the EU look silly??. ..your reasoning baffles me...I bet you vote Tory...
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22/03/2021 16:27:02 1 16
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Spot the torybot ??
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22/03/2021 16:21:39 8 8
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Perhaps it doesn't suit your anti-BBC agenda that they reported it as headline news and opened up comments to it.
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22/03/2021 16:27:16 1 1
bbc
I would agree - but I have seen comment sections on breaking new sections before. BBC should really just have a comment section per article or retire the feature. It'd stop all the tiring arguments over whether or not they are trying to steer the narrative.
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22/03/2021 16:12:58 62 11
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That's a slap in the face for some of the EU countries....
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22/03/2021 16:27:30 8 43
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Silly comment !
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23/03/2021 11:58:57 0 0
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Nope its not, it underlines how they have misused the precautionary principle and how they ignore hard data. Rather like you
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22/03/2021 16:27:36 0 17
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The EU has allowed up to now export of AZ to UK, how much AZ has been exported from UK to the EU (0)
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22/03/2021 16:31:36 1 3
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UK gets the Vaccine from India
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TV
22/03/2021 16:34:28 4 1
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Glad to see you understand how all our supply chains are connect, and thw fragility of supply.

Your comment shows you understand how if the UK retaliates in a vaccine export ban by banning the export of certain lipids to the EU (manufactured in the UK) that manufacturing of vaccines in the EU gets hit.
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22/03/2021 16:38:50 4 1
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The 'EU' are 28 countries the UK is one. Let's not forget that. They want to stop our vaccines while sitting on stockpiles we should stop the ingredients they need to make the phizer jab. Simple. They are not our friends.
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22/03/2021 17:12:23 0 0
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Initial certification batches were sent to UK to allow production to start in EU. The EU doesn't produce. AZ, Pfizer etc produce. Countries (and the EU) secure delivery from these companies. The UK, US etc orders were placed 3 MONTHS ahead of EU orders. EU is winging because it wants access to already built supply chain rather than waiting for its own lines to come up to speed
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22/03/2021 20:03:05 1 0
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The U.K. has not banned any exports unlike Italy using an EU law.??
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22/03/2021 16:19:07 19 113
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So the EU have already said it is safe....the US haven't.....and these results make the EU look silly??. ..your reasoning baffles me...I bet you vote Tory...
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22/03/2021 16:27:42 16 8
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I bet you are a remoaner, I hope for your sake you can one day move on with your life :)
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22/03/2021 16:11:31 51 12
bbc
Classic EU cockup.
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22/03/2021 16:27:48 4 9
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classic torybot ;)
Classic momentum idiot, mean in deed and word Removed
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22/03/2021 16:12:07 101 11
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Another great set of results and another set of results that make the EU look silly.
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22/03/2021 16:28:03 12 0
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Well, not the EU per se, but most certainly some EU countries (the EU health authority has consistently and strongly maintained the safety of the AZ vaccine).
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22/03/2021 16:23:17 60 7
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"further reassure some EU countries"

The only reason that reassurance is needed is because of Macron / Merkel trying to distract their citizens from the appalling way they've handled their vaccination programme.

First they wanted to jump the queue, then they said it didn't work, now they're trying to stop it being sent abroad by seizing legitimate purchases.

Like a banana republic ...
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22/03/2021 16:28:06 20 3
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Notice how none of the trials have taken place in the EU? What does that tell you about their approach to all of this?
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23/03/2021 17:18:48 0 0
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Because a trial needs a place full of plague, like the UK, US, Brazil or S. Africa, and unlike most of the places within the EU?
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22/03/2021 16:28:15 9 0
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AZ is safe and actually works. What a surprise.
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22/03/2021 16:15:30 93 13
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The EU have acted despicably and have shown themselves for what they are, incompetent self interested bureaucrats
They are acting politically to undermine the UK who they fear as a successful rival
Glad we left
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22/03/2021 16:28:23 10 82
bbc
Up is down, black is white, you torybots are crass and trite.
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22/03/2021 16:33:12 17 5
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Have you ever thought that it is your opinion that is wrong? I guess no
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22/03/2021 16:37:43 9 5
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Merkel bots going into meltdown lol
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22/03/2021 18:48:13 2 2
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Well yours does appear to be a popularly supported position all this.lol
Tosser Removed
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23/03/2021 11:55:40 0 0
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There are none so blind as those that dont wish to see or are hollow in the head!
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22/03/2021 16:28:26 29 4
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Don't tell the EU, you'll burst their bubble. But I suspect all their fuss was because certain pharmaceutical companies who stand to make a fortune put pressure on them to target the vaccine made and sold at cost price.
No wonder Pfizer issued dire warnings not to start a war with the UK, they won't want their component parts of the vaccine blocking.

They'll be no ban on Thursday.
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22/03/2021 21:38:09 3 3
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You have no evidence to prove your stories. Borderline (and nonsensical) conspiracy theory.

The EU themselves have supported the use of the AZ vaccine ever since the EMA approved it in the end of January. Stop spreading misinformation.
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22/03/2021 16:25:29 8 0
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Oh dear not another anti-vaxer! It's this sort of drivel that causes damage, not vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:28:32 0 6
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Are you saying it is totally safe for pregnant women then?
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22/03/2021 16:18:27 23 5
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I wonder - did the EU delay because of concerns or because they didn't have enough vaccine and didn't want to admit it? Either way - what an EUnormos shambles !
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22/03/2021 16:28:57 1 6
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what a tory.
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22/03/2021 17:45:09 4 0
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Have you actually anything tangible to say or do you just throw out insults towards anyone you don't agree with?
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22/03/2021 16:17:32 1 36
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Not one person on this planet has had the vaccine, got pregant and given birth 9 months later to a heathly baby - but "the vaccine is safe".
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22/03/2021 16:29:13 6 0
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Duh -if you are trying to compare this with drugs like thalidomide then note thalidomide is a drug NOT a vaccine. There is a very BIG difference. As far as I am aware no-one has given birth to a unhealthy baby due to smallpox, flu or polio vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:32:23 0 5
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Smallpox vaccine can cause fetal vaccinia.
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22/03/2021 16:29:15 2 6
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The US has already vaccinated 100 million plus. And they also have a ban in place so they are not exporting what they manufacture. Whereas the EU has no such ban in place. However they are all guilty of being too cautious and therefore slow in purchasing enough doses. I think China and Russia will win out of this fight as individual nations seek alternatives
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22/03/2021 16:31:06 3 1
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UK has no ban either....UK manufactures its vaccines in India
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22/03/2021 16:43:57 3 0
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USA does not have a total ban they have just agreed to supply Canada and Mexico
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22/03/2021 16:23:17 60 7
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"further reassure some EU countries"

The only reason that reassurance is needed is because of Macron / Merkel trying to distract their citizens from the appalling way they've handled their vaccination programme.

First they wanted to jump the queue, then they said it didn't work, now they're trying to stop it being sent abroad by seizing legitimate purchases.

Like a banana republic ...
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22/03/2021 16:29:19 6 18
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Reality is that it is Johnson who is trying to distract citizens. Don't forget we still have 52,000 more covid deaths than Germany.
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23/03/2021 11:58:00 0 0
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Your point is pointless. The figures have been published endlessly, the 400000 that have died of non covid are the tragedy.
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22/03/2021 16:29:45 20 4
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I think the EU would prefer the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine because of what company makes it. Discredit ours to make a German company more money.
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22/03/2021 16:39:01 2 5
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You are wrong as Pfizer is not exported from the US at all. So this is not the case at all. Please read up on it. But if you want to do a song and a dance about Germany please don't let me rain on your parade
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22/03/2021 21:57:41 1 1
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No evidence at all to support your nonsensical conspiracy theory. The EU and the EMA actually endorses the use of the AZ vaccine ever since they have approved it.

It is also not "our" vaccine either. It doesn't belong to the UK government.
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22/03/2021 16:15:48 45 9
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I wonder if the EU will stop the scaremongering now, doubt it and I think their politicking has already done the damage.
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22/03/2021 16:29:52 11 1
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The EU didn't scaremonger, some EU states did. The first state to overreact to a trivial and easily dealt with doubt was Norway, not a member. The others followed Norway because anti-vax clowns have managed to sow an atmosphere of panic among enough of several European populations that politicians started panicking.
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22/03/2021 16:21:42 6 0
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Perhaps because they didn't happen? Where do you get your news - The Beano?
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22/03/2021 16:29:58 0 2
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Comics provide a better balance of position and events than the shameful MSM, at this point. Your denial is sad, but predictable. Broaden the net when it comes to news. A healthy debate is surely what we all want? Dictats from fearmongering are not in the common interest.
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22/03/2021 16:30:28 0 11
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BBC - why do you allow the cons to swamp your site with trite lines so often ?

They all read from the day's memo - same wording and theme ??
Removed
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22/03/2021 16:30:30 1 9
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The Russian vaccine is safer and more effective and actually more innovative.. east european countries are all using it
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22/03/2021 16:42:03 3 0
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Please quote the reference for this statement.
Without a reference you are just talking bs.
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22/03/2021 16:42:09 0 0
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You could quite possibly be right but like the chinese vaccines there seems to be either poor evidence of proper testing or just a political case not to use them
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22/03/2021 17:11:45 1 0
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You are right... that is all_bs.
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22/03/2021 19:57:34 1 0
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Wrong.
It’s the same Adenovirus vector technology. The only difference is that it uses two different Adenoviruses for the pair of shots. This is to cut down issues with host immunity the vector.
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22/03/2021 16:22:14 24 8
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It had nothing to do with the safety of their citizens. It was partly because they messed up with the orders, partly because they hate the UK to be seen doing well outside of their racket.
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22/03/2021 16:30:47 1 6
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trumper
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22/03/2021 16:26:10 6 11
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The EU never said it was unsafe, countries within the EU (and some outside of it, such as Iceland) paused its rollout. Stop swallowing the Daily Mail / Daily Express's agenda.
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22/03/2021 16:30:54 2 1
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so would their citizens
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22/03/2021 16:30:55 35 5
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Oh dear EU....

What will next excuse be?

Type face on the virals not up to scratch?
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22/03/2021 16:39:33 12 2
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"wrong font" on the box used to carry the paper work.
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LH
23/03/2021 12:13:34 0 0
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Cheese and ham in it??!
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LH
23/03/2021 12:15:17 0 0
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Great Britain, not UK on box!;
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22/03/2021 16:22:14 24 8
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It had nothing to do with the safety of their citizens. It was partly because they messed up with the orders, partly because they hate the UK to be seen doing well outside of their racket.
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22/03/2021 16:31:16 1 3
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Nice if you knew what has been going on.
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22/03/2021 16:16:51 32 3
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Yes, I like piña coladas
And gettin' caught in the rain
I'm not much into health food
I am into AZ vaccine
I've need to get my jab by tomorrow noon
And cut through all this red tape
At a vaccine centre in Salisbury
Where we'll plan our escape
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22/03/2021 16:31:33 5 5
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I see some appreciate your effort ??
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22/03/2021 16:21:24 15 1
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Are you comparing the vaccine to thalidomide? I think that you are a disgusting person for doing so & if the BBC moderates me for 'hateful' remarks then I don't give a flying
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22/03/2021 16:31:37 1 6
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What if something indeed happened? Nobody can say for certain. I’m not taking the vaccine for this reason. Looking to start a family. Not anti-vax in any way but I’ll happily take a pass on it.
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22/03/2021 16:37:42 1 6
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At last, a sensible rational person on this forum. The vaccine has not been tested on any pregnant women and the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists say the vaccination should only be considered "when the potential benefits outweigh any potential risks for the woman and her baby." i.e. the risks are unknown.
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22/03/2021 16:31:38 37 4
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Meanwhile, the EU umms and ah's over the best way to punish us over Brexit: to ban the vaccine, or to stop exports to us. And this is coming from me, someone who didn't vote Brexit.
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22/03/2021 21:30:45 5 9
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If you think the EU is "Punishing us over Brexit", then it just shows you don't understand what Brexit means, regardless of the way you voted.

It was us to chose to leave, so it is us who bares the responsibility and the consequences for leaving. Placing economic sanctions on ourselves...

Also the UK hasn't exported any vaccines, the EU has exported 10 million to the UK, but you still complain?
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22/03/2021 16:31:43 28 5
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Stick that in your pipe Macron and all the other doubters
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22/03/2021 16:29:15 2 6
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The US has already vaccinated 100 million plus. And they also have a ban in place so they are not exporting what they manufacture. Whereas the EU has no such ban in place. However they are all guilty of being too cautious and therefore slow in purchasing enough doses. I think China and Russia will win out of this fight as individual nations seek alternatives
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22/03/2021 16:31:06 3 1
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UK has no ban either....UK manufactures its vaccines in India
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22/03/2021 16:36:48 1 1
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And within the EU. I am aware that India is manufacturing multiple vaccines including the astra zeneca.
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22/03/2021 16:48:56 4 0
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The "UK" does not manufacture the vaccines, neither do the "EU", the vaccines are manufactured by private companies, AstraZeneca, Pfizer-BioNTech, etc..... AstraZeneca manufactures its vaccines in the UK and the EU, and it sub-contracts production to third party's, such as Serum Institute of India (a private company).
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22/03/2021 20:00:29 0 0
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BS.
AZ arranges manufacture in India . The “UK” doesn’t make anything.
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22/03/2021 16:27:36 0 17
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The EU has allowed up to now export of AZ to UK, how much AZ has been exported from UK to the EU (0)
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22/03/2021 16:31:36 1 3
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UK gets the Vaccine from India
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22/03/2021 16:24:40 49 9
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They know the vaccine is safe already. They had to trash its reputation in order to stop demand for something they simply do not have due to their useless preparations.
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22/03/2021 16:32:23 0 10
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Cameron's porcine friends agree ;)
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23/03/2021 11:56:16 0 0
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Oh my my such a kiddie, grow up
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22/03/2021 16:29:13 6 0
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Duh -if you are trying to compare this with drugs like thalidomide then note thalidomide is a drug NOT a vaccine. There is a very BIG difference. As far as I am aware no-one has given birth to a unhealthy baby due to smallpox, flu or polio vaccines.
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22/03/2021 16:32:23 0 5
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Smallpox vaccine can cause fetal vaccinia.
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Rae
22/03/2021 18:34:49 1 0
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Smallpox was totally eradicated solely by the effects of vaccination , or would you rather have us all dying of fatal diseases such as smallpox , dypthaeria ,polio etc etc .....
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22/03/2021 16:14:42 9 28
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Where's the reporting of mass rallies and police brutality on Saturday, Auntie? Not just London, but across Europe and beyond. We're not all enthralled with the cult of covid.
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22/03/2021 16:32:40 2 0
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It really is only the anti-vaccine crowd who could reasonably be decribed as a cult. Irrational beliefs: check. Rejecting or ignoring mainstream media and science rather “doing their own research” check. No credible motive for their conspiracy: check.
Something needs to be done about the ability of bad actors to broadcast nonsense on social media and affect us all.
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22/03/2021 16:32:49 8 5
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The EU and the European regulator have always said that the AZ vaccine is safe. Macron questioned it. Merkel's hand was forced by the German regulator.

Like the EU or not, making false statements on here isn't really helpful to anyone.
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22/03/2021 16:17:42 16 12
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Darn this wont suit the EU good, UK bad agenda... perhaps thats why they waited 8 hours to open comments....
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22/03/2021 16:33:10 0 3
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Now, you would-n't b-e a tory bo-t would you ?
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22/03/2021 17:47:31 0 0
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Same tired rhetoric from you

Please try posting something this isn't just a hackneyed cliché insult
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Ian
22/03/2021 16:33:12 24 0
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I am sure that the Oxford-AstraZeneca scientists are way too busy working on a new version to combat the strains of Covid coming from Brazil and South Africa to worry so much about the EU, but that must be pleased that it passed another test.

These people are the ones we should thank.
Some of them (not all) may be well paid, but I am sure that they work hard to get results.

We need these people.
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22/03/2021 19:53:20 7 0
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They are and they have been for some time.
A coronavirus vaccine will be part of the annual ‘flu jab’ from now on.
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22/03/2021 22:15:29 2 1
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Or worry about the UK and other nations for that matter. They are a global company. Why single out the EU when they endorse the use of the AZ vaccine?

Also according to Brexiteers, we don't need these people (as most are from Europe) and that they should be replaced by home grown talent (Where we have a significant shortage of).

There is a clear discrepancy in what you actually want here.
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Jen
22/03/2021 16:21:14 90 4
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Well done our government for getting a vaccine that doesn’t cost the earth too. Astra Zeneca are not making huge sums of money out of it, unlike other companies.
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22/03/2021 16:33:34 1 7
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hancock - jail or promotion ??
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22/03/2021 16:32:20 6 2
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AZ vaccine is made in UK and India. Gets facts right everyone
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22/03/2021 16:36:57 2 0
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And in Europe
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22/03/2021 16:38:38 1 0
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If you want to get facts right add Netherlands, USA, and there are others either in production or about to start production
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22/03/2021 16:40:17 1 0
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...and Italy, and The Netherlands, and Australia, and other countries too.
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22/03/2021 16:44:19 1 0
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Manufacturing is in multiple sites (15 countries and 25 manufacturing sites). Some of which are in Europe. The German facility is at a company called. IDT Biologika and in Belgium at AZs own facility.
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22/03/2021 16:28:23 10 82
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Up is down, black is white, you torybots are crass and trite.
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22/03/2021 16:33:12 17 5
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Have you ever thought that it is your opinion that is wrong? I guess no
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22/03/2021 16:34:21 17 4
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A successful UK, the EU and Remainers will absolutely hate that
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22/03/2021 21:44:03 1 1
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In terms of vaccines only.

Brexiteers REALLY hate it if you start talking about anything else recently, because it proves that the UK is anything but.

Try to prove us wrong, because you won't get far before you start seeing loopholes in your arguments.
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22/03/2021 16:27:36 0 17
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The EU has allowed up to now export of AZ to UK, how much AZ has been exported from UK to the EU (0)
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TV
22/03/2021 16:34:28 4 1
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Glad to see you understand how all our supply chains are connect, and thw fragility of supply.

Your comment shows you understand how if the UK retaliates in a vaccine export ban by banning the export of certain lipids to the EU (manufactured in the UK) that manufacturing of vaccines in the EU gets hit.
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22/03/2021 16:14:42 9 28
bbc
Where's the reporting of mass rallies and police brutality on Saturday, Auntie? Not just London, but across Europe and beyond. We're not all enthralled with the cult of covid.
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22/03/2021 16:34:39 1 0
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Absolutely disgusting the way the police were throwing fireworks at people and setting fire to vehicles.
PS the rallies were supposed to be about a new bill which I admit does give rise to concern BUT not in Europe and does not justify the violence by a few.
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22/03/2021 16:11:31 51 12
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Classic EU cockup.
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22/03/2021 16:34:45 6 4
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So why is the UK moaning about the EU keeping their stock?
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22/03/2021 16:46:27 12 1
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I am pro EU but it is not EU stock. It is in a factory in the EU but already sold to the UK. If I buy a European car, and it is ready to ship to the UK, having paid for it I expect it to be delivered. Not 'kept for EU citizens'.
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22/03/2021 18:53:04 0 4
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They are not. Reciprocity is the EU line.
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22/03/2021 16:15:30 93 13
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The EU have acted despicably and have shown themselves for what they are, incompetent self interested bureaucrats
They are acting politically to undermine the UK who they fear as a successful rival
Glad we left
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22/03/2021 16:34:58 8 19
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Don't you think that you ought to obtain a bit of an understanding about what has been happening before commenting? What is worrying is that quite a few people on here have agreed with you.
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22/03/2021 18:49:21 1 3
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but not you.. That in itself should tell you something. Confirmation bias is not a good thing. Just saying.
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22/03/2021 21:09:30 3 3
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They are just venting at the EU because it is what they have always done. It doesn't matter if what they are saying is right or wrong, they simply don't care.

The UK as a state is failing and the government is cherry picking the vaccine success (Which had little to do with them in the first place) to try and deflect their continuous blunders and failures in every other aspect of society.
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22/03/2021 16:25:05 0 69
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Is that the same vaccine that the manufacturers have absolved all responsibility? The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?

You have more faith in it than the people who made it.
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22/03/2021 16:35:03 28 0
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I have faith in the very well established science used to test it. The scientifically illiterate meanwhile would rather take their chances with a disease that kills 3-5 in every 1000 who catch it and hospitalises 5-10x that.
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22/03/2021 16:35:17 3 2
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Only what the British have been saying from day one.. We knew the EU was being political and I think the leader of France.. Macron should come out and apologise to its citizens and the rest of the world for declaring it quas effective and potentially killing many people that otherwise would have been vaccinated. The EU will have to pay the price.. A 3rd wave and many thousands losing their life's
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22/03/2021 16:35:22 0 11
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Well, they would say that wouldn't they, they stand to make billions selling the vaccine, then "boosters" to the world, for the foreseeable future.
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22/03/2021 16:39:03 5 1
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Do you understand the phrase "not for profit"?
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22/03/2021 16:39:33 3 1
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Why would the US say "that"about a UK/Swedish vaccine which is being supplied at cost? There's no profit and even if there was the US wouldn't receive any of it.
You really need to educate yourself before posting.
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22/03/2021 16:25:05 0 69
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Is that the same vaccine that the manufacturers have absolved all responsibility? The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?

You have more faith in it than the people who made it.
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22/03/2021 16:35:35 35 0
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I think your tin foil hat is ready for collection
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22/03/2021 16:26:36 9 0
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This news won’t reach the hard core of anti-Vaxxers who now don’t trust the bbc and think all mainstream media is colluding with the drug companies and government to control and inject us with poisons. Or a whole host of other irrational sets of beliefs. Something needs to be done about the ability of bad actors to broadcast nonsense on social media and affect us all. It’s so, so dangerous.
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22/03/2021 16:35:43 7 0
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Agree, work with vulnerable adults and they are targeted with this rubbish on Whatsapp etc. As fast as they block one, another pops up. If you want a laugh check out Matt Hancocks Facebook page, they're out in force there. I get a perverse pleasure in debunking their claims.
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22/03/2021 16:39:37 3 0
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Yes, so depressing. And so damaging. Makes you realise how Islamic extremism reached and converted so many through social media too. We should have learned and acted then.
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22/03/2021 16:36:13 1 0
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Of course it works. But it is a difficult thing to help some foreigners by vaccinating them. Colonel Walter E. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now would agree. Inject the vaccine into the arms of the kids of savages and next morning you will find the savages have cut off their kids arms and arranged them in a neat little pile for you. This is the sort of mindset we are often dealing with. Take your jab.
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22/03/2021 16:25:05 0 69
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Is that the same vaccine that the manufacturers have absolved all responsibility? The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?

You have more faith in it than the people who made it.
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22/03/2021 16:36:23 35 0
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"The same vaccine where life insurance won't pay out as it is classed as an experimental vaccine?"

Fake news that we could do very well without.
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22/03/2021 16:36:38 9 2
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EU, I don't want to say we told you so but ... ah who am I kidding, we did!
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23/03/2021 00:19:08 0 1
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They told themselves that the AZ vaccine was safe right from when they approved it. But that doesn't fit with your narrative does it?

Clueless sod.
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22/03/2021 16:31:06 3 1
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UK has no ban either....UK manufactures its vaccines in India
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22/03/2021 16:36:48 1 1
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And within the EU. I am aware that India is manufacturing multiple vaccines including the astra zeneca.
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22/03/2021 16:36:53 2 9
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You'd think johnson hadn't delayed and trashed our recovery.
3rd wave clearly due to evil EU already ?? ??
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22/03/2021 16:32:20 6 2
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AZ vaccine is made in UK and India. Gets facts right everyone
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22/03/2021 16:36:57 2 0
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And in Europe
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22/03/2021 16:49:48 4 1
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Not by Europe or the EU. Private companies after our scientists created it.