'It is in Man Utd manager's job description to win trophies'
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A first trophy as Manchester United manager remains elusive for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as another opportunity slips through his team's grasp.
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ole, bruce and jose will be gone at the end of the season
Trophies are bought these days not won.
It literally isnt in their job description. The only manu manager that won much was ferguson.
Every United manager since Busby has won trophies - you could even count Moyes winning the Charity Shield if you like!
Ole stays, Fred & Martial need to go and we need 1 or TWO world class centre halves!!!
We need a great st like Kane or haaland
The only player i keep is shaw... the rest of the team can be sold and rebuilt, midfield needs quality players who can attack and defend, playing 4-2-3-1 formation is good if you have those quality front 4.martial must be sold, greenwood and rashford needs to improve their game, bruno doesnt turn up in big games, having mcfred or matic in midfield aint going to get you goals attack is beSt defence
Liverpool are still in the champions league haaa they are actually having a better season than man u despite loads of injuries unlike at man u ??
pool destroyed leipzieg the team man ure failed to beat ????
The two major trophies in the past two seasons, reigning champions, quite happy with our manager thanks, and you’re happy with Ole are you? It’s so obvious that he’s not up to it. Long may he continue.
I'm a neutral fan - but I really like Ole and I think he's doing a decent job. Football comes in waves - Utd have been in the shade for some time but they are moving in the right direction.
Fritz they're not moving in any direction we've stayed still for the last 5years
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Oh dear what can the matter be? ManU are out of the FA Cup and their major supporter, in the shape of the BBC, is crying his eyes out!! Shame on whoever it was that let them lose!! Oh dear, oh dear!
At half time ex United player Dion Dublin made sure United avoided City and Chelsea in the semi final, by full time an ex City player ensured they also avoided Southampton.
Man United fans on Twitter at half time "OMG we drew Southampton, we're gonna be in the FA cup final"
Man United fans on Twitter at full time:
Jokes, they weren't on Twitter. Logged off after 78 minutes!! Hahahahaha
Man United fans on Twitter at full time:
Jokes, they weren't on Twitter. Logged off after 78 minutes!! Hahahahaha
Eh? You suggesting Dion fixed it?? ????
You love United !!
yes he emptied the balls out lined them up and then paired them up everybody noticed it
You mean Leicester lad Dion Dublin made sure his home-town club avoided Manchester City in the semi.
We'll save them for the final and revenge 69.
We'll save them for the final and revenge 69.
That is class my friend...... I applaud
if the pope drew the teams, you would still say that. city played to win the FA CUP. Wembley here we come.
Even a clueless manager, given a squad of top internationals, can get to the latter stages of cups and the top end of the league. The top managers earn their money by winning the big games against the top teams managed by top managers consistently.
That is when the fine margins between success and failure are shown up, and when tactical genius is required.
That is when the fine margins between success and failure are shown up, and when tactical genius is required.
Spot on. Mot
Yes - different manager skills are needed dependant on the team's budget. In this case, OGS main task is to get the most out of the talent in his squad. If he does that he'll be there or thereabouts.
So many players not playing to their value. Only Bruno and Shaw playing to their potential.
MOT.
So many players not playing to their value. Only Bruno and Shaw playing to their potential.
MOT.
Not sure entirely what the wording of the the job description is. However I'm speaking with confidence when I say "don't be a clueless P.E teacher" is very strongly conveyed within it
“As for United, there is still so much in this season for them”
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
I think you mean buying not competing
They should be close to winning g..blunt fact leicester 3 centre defenders are all better than United . FACT Leicester targeted isolating Maguire and Lindyhop and United defence could not cope. Fact leicesters recruitment is better than Uniteds..Fact leicester have a better head coach/manager
Ole has too many excuses when his tactics and team selection is not working. Ole should take up politics rather than football as he is so good on talking nonsense which doesn’t make any sense. It seems like another trophy less season and top players will never join MU unless you pay huge amounts of fee salary for the players.
Yep! The way he stands their smiling his head off, right after he's messed everything up!!
Would fit right in with a certain politician we have right now.....
Would fit right in with a certain politician we have right now.....
That was Klopp this season and at Dortmund when things went wrong for him there.
Is your name olie? "as you is so good on talking nonsense which doesn’t make any sense"
Maybe someone should ask what Woodward or the Glazers are doing. Having a shortlist of top players and ending up with Fred is just not good enough.
Judging from what I read in the US press; apparently Old Trafford roof leaks and Carrington training ground is sparse and old fashioned in comparison with most top clubs. And don't think its just Man United, Tampa Bay had been suffering the same way for years too.
i thought fred was fantastic. best Leicester player on the pitch.
Recently, Chairman Woodward said his task was to monetise the brand. So long as United qualify for the Champion's league will Woodward see his job done? If United don't qualify will their fellow ECA cartel members want to rob UEFA'S income for their invitation only breakaway, to which neither MCFC nor Leicester would be invited.
What they are doing is sucking money OUT of the club and not investing IN the club, for example, facilities. Let's not even mention treatment of the fans. All they wanted was the name!
Why would "top" players go to united, there is nothing there for them.
No chance at trophies, clowns like Pogba, Maguire and Bruno, average manager and that's generous, no ambition, no soul since Fergie left and of course owners that need to loan money to keep the club afloat.
No chance at trophies, clowns like Pogba, Maguire and Bruno, average manager and that's generous, no ambition, no soul since Fergie left and of course owners that need to loan money to keep the club afloat.
Oh BBC you are so boring. Quite a few British clubs have been knocked out of competitions this week but you can only focus on your beloved Man U.
BBC and Man U are very similar. Outdated and yesterday's news.
BBC and Man U are very similar. Outdated and yesterday's news.
Don't you know McNutty?
If you think the BBC is out dated and yesterday's news why are you on the BBC's website at all. There is plenty of new out there. Suerly one would agree with your views.
and yet here you are on the BBC website. Strange
Yet another who professes to hate the BBC, yet can't seem to stay away and make the sensible choice if that's the truth ?????
Man U articles are popular and create interest (Whether you love them or hate them). An article about Sheffield Utd for example will generate no interest. So, the journalists write about Man U. This is not particularly hard to understand. PS: I am not a Man U fan either.
As a United fan I think if we don’t win a trophy this season then ok but if we don’t win one this season or next then ole should leave regardless if we finish top 4
United are simply not good enough to win the two big major trophies, papering over the cracks with a FA cup win wouldn't prove anything bar keeping the wolves away from the door, United don't have the financial advantage they used to have, they could simply cherry pick their opponents best, strengthening themselves while weakening their rivals.
Spot on. Not come close to winning the league for 8 years. Not come close to winning the Champions League for 10 years.
They might fluke the odd cup here and there when they get an easy draw (FA cup victory over Palace, League cup victory over Southampton).
But by and large they are a very average team considering they have one of the most expensive squads in world football!
They might fluke the odd cup here and there when they get an easy draw (FA cup victory over Palace, League cup victory over Southampton).
But by and large they are a very average team considering they have one of the most expensive squads in world football!
I disagree, for years the bought from 2nd tiers or young unproven players and made them special, yes they bought a few big players but not many. And I’m anything but a Man U fan but like realism
United are simply not good enough to win the two big major trophies is exactly the point. They must put every effort into winning the FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League each season. There will be some seasons when they do not have the Europa League to aim for.
The sad thing is that there has been no progress at all since last year even though we may have more points at this stage of the season.
The sad thing is that there has been no progress at all since last year even though we may have more points at this stage of the season.
Financials don't come into it. Under Ferguson they spent far less than rivals such as Chelsea and won more trophies. Likewise, the United of the last 5 years have spent way more than Fergusons side and not won a League or CL or even came close. That argument is a red herring
I very much agree about the cherry picking being overlooked, as does the fact that the 3 most expensive PL buys are United's - Maguire, Pogba & Lukak. They simple grumble about the spending of Chelsea, Liverpool etc plus of course the noisy neighbours - who at least don't have United's £455 million debt.
Yeah forgot, injuries exclusive to Anfield, Man U have been missing two World Cup winners for most of the season ya numpty
Ole stays, Fred & Martial need to go and we need 1 or TWO world class centre halves!!!
“As for United, there is still so much in this season for them”
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
Ah yes. United’s real problem is that other teams spend too much money, whilst their squad cost 50p and a prayer.
Harsh words about Liverpool but hey VVD 75 mill Allison 70 mill plus and look where they are. Listen Sunshine it's not the money, all clubs have it now, it's how you spend it and what manager you get to inspire the players. Pep spent10 minutes talking to Redmond and now he's revitalised for Southampton. It's not money, it's management of it
OGS doesn't know what's he's doing. How they are second in the league is anyone's guess. Clueless team, no strength in depth and if you chalk off the penalties where would they be sitting. Lucky they weren't down to 10 men today. The 3-1 scoreline flattered them. Give OGS a new contract and keep the rest of the football world happy.
If you chalk off the penalties, you may as well chalk off all the goals, why not all the points too. Read the rules.
Fernandes, whois a good player, dodgy Var and penalties has got them where they are. Mediocre mid table team worshipped by the Media especially Sly Sports and the BBC - makes loadsa money when they win trophies!
Quite agree no strength in depth as the Glazers are taking all the money. They are 2nd in the league as they more points than everybody else, perhaps you need to look at the table and get somebody to explain it to you.
It’s not just the dubious decisions they get, it’s the ones they get away with. Case in point, Martial’s studs up lunge today wasn’t even given as a foul?
Such a stupid thing to say ?? I never understand dumb comments like this.. like how dare a team get a penalty for repeatedly being fouled in the box by the opposition. The nerve of VAR to gift United so many pens for fouls!!! ??
OGS knows what he wants to happen in the game but it appears that his players have "off-days" and don't perform to the standards expected..
Every team in the Prem League either have or are having "off days".
It's a weird season.
Every team in the Prem League either have or are having "off days".
It's a weird season.
Not going to win any cups with ole in charge. He's decent but lacks tactical nous. And his team lacks winning mentality
Do you know what you're doing writing that contradiction? First get your mind straight before twisting everyone elses
I actually wonder why he chose to start with Martial, Pogba & Van Da Beek well knowing that they've just returned from injuries & to make matters worse partnering Matic and Fred to protect the back 4. Leaving Scott, Bruno & James who are fully fit on the bench for 65 minutes
" Lucky they weren't down to 10 men today."
To be fair, I think most ManU fans would breathe a sigh of relief if Fred got himself sent off in the first minute of any match he starts.
To be fair, I think most ManU fans would breathe a sigh of relief if Fred got himself sent off in the first minute of any match he starts.
OGS is as good as managing a football club as Phil McNulty is at writing articles and opinion pieces.
OGS doesn’t know what he’s doing but you do George. Thanks for your insight and enjoy the pies.
They’re second for one reason alone: Liverpool have been useless
Fred played poor but what annoys me is he gets abused so to put into perspective any mistake a player makes they will get abused
Oh BBC you are so boring. Quite a few British clubs have been knocked out of competitions this week but you can only focus on your beloved Man U.
BBC and Man U are very similar. Outdated and yesterday's news.
BBC and Man U are very similar. Outdated and yesterday's news.
Fred played poor but what annoys me is he gets abused so to put into perspective any mistake a player makes they will get abused
Got racially abused on Social media
Fred and Harry, United would be in safer hands with Fred and Rose ??
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It don't help having a £80m flop at the back who takes 5 seconds to do a 360 ??
And a manager who says "winning a trophy is not a sign of progress"
Yet this was the same guy who last season, said that "losing 2-0 to Liverpool shows you how far we've come"
Yet this was the same guy who last season, said that "losing 2-0 to Liverpool shows you how far we've come"
Turns like a u-boat
I've never seen such an important player at MU so bad. Can you even imagine in recent years Rio, Vidic or Jaap Stam getting megged the same way Maguire did today? And it's all the time. Absolute shambles
Utd were poor, and highly unlikely to win anything with the current defence.
I looked for a similar article from McNutley after Klopp’s first two seasons, but couldn’t find anything:
Klopp appointed 8 October 2015
Final league position 8-4
No trophies
OGS appointed 19 December 2018
Final league position 6-3
No trophies
BTW perch, 20>19.
I looked for a similar article from McNutley after Klopp’s first two seasons, but couldn’t find anything:
Klopp appointed 8 October 2015
Final league position 8-4
No trophies
OGS appointed 19 December 2018
Final league position 6-3
No trophies
BTW perch, 20>19.
Having watched the game I thought Leicester were the far better team and the result showed that.
any manager watching that match will take a leaf out of Leicester's tactics, stopping United's mid field from any sort of functionality with the exception of the goal, and finally quite a few players dived to try and get free kicks, poor sportsmanship and not worthy of a team of United stature
any manager watching that match will take a leaf out of Leicester's tactics, stopping United's mid field from any sort of functionality with the exception of the goal, and finally quite a few players dived to try and get free kicks, poor sportsmanship and not worthy of a team of United stature
That was the best bit of transfer business ever done by Leicester City.
Your obsessed i bet your over 30 and still living with your mum and dad and still a virgin
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My dog does 360s quicker than Harry. 80 million and terrible. Crazy. On a fortune a week and terrible at his job. Football is mad.
Has anybody else noticed that the gobs seem to be commenting on ManU and Everton HYS a lot more than Liverpool HYS nowadays?
Wonder why that is?
Wonder why that is?
Maguire has been superb for most of he season, especially versus all the top sides, and over the last few weeks United's defence has been almost impregnable.
Don't let the truth get in the way though.
Don't let the truth get in the way though.
Can't understand why they brought a guy that is so slow and shit as a defender, should be sold in the summer
Ah my favourite t r o l l u admit to umber one haha
Isn’t it about time you changed your name? KICKED OFF OUR PERCH ..... ???????? CENTURIONS??
Maguire was solid, you absolute moron. Watch the game and not the rhetoric
Never an 80 million pound player, he doesn’t have any agility and can be very clumsy
Don't let one away loss in over a year on english soil detract your teams pathetic defence of the title, one season wonders ??
Maguire has been outstanding this season, hence Man Utds Europa Cup win and 2nd place finish. He's been way better than Van Dijk.
Good bit of business by Leicester though, paid 80% of a world class training facility we now have! Add in a Danny Drinkwater and we have ourselves a 100m facility and £10m + change to invest! I like how Leicester do football.
Fred and Harry, United would be in safer hands with Fred and Rose ??
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Oh dear Margaret, you’re not happy. Complain to the bbc
Poor little Bruno has skipped and jumped his way to absolutely zero trophies.
Bruno sucking his thumb again tonight.
Only this time he's doing it lying in bed, crying, and dreaming of a move to Spain! Hahaha
Only this time he's doing it lying in bed, crying, and dreaming of a move to Spain! Hahaha
You love United !!
Like most of the players in the league they are all going to Man City
Stop whining Manures - sort YOUR team out - or prepare for the wilderness years..
Let’s put some context to this Phil.
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
High- flying AC Milan, you can't showing your bias towards a club who constantly tries reminding every body their the biggest club in the world, 100% serious, United are NOT the biggest club in the world, realism is needed fatboyslick
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three (or five) times is Missing In Action.
This article merely asks what's the common denominator. I like Ole, I prefer good competition but these results are becoming a habit.
This article merely asks what's the common denominator. I like Ole, I prefer good competition but these results are becoming a habit.
By your context: Was it not Man u who lost to the same worst team back in Jan (they have only had like 2 non cup wins this season) + Leicester also scored 5 past the best team in the world (away) who else can say that in recent times.
Man U are SUPPOSED to be the biggest and best club in the world, they are supposed to be challenging on all fronts, it doesn't matter what Leicester have played, they simply are not good enough,Man City bought Ruben Diaz to do a specific job and does it very well,some Man U players would struggle in the Championship
I also feel theirs bias shown to United, not only by the BBC, but by the people who operate VAR, ex-players (pundits) repeatedly up united every week on television, as though United are entitled to win things and it's not right
Is this for real? You’ve got Keown, Jenas and Shearer who despise UTD and are riding a crest of a wave since Fergie left, picking them apart at every opportunity. Shearer backed UTD before the game but it was so he could rip them apart if they lost. Any pundit worth their salt would have favoured a team who’ve played 2 games in 15 days v. Relegation teams, compared to UTDs schedule in pat 2 weeks
Spot on about VAR and the decisions they've had prove this. The BBC love in with United & Liverpool is nauseating.
Excellent comment. ??????????????????????
I'm sory..What? Shearer, Jenas, Keown, Thierry Henry, Jose Mourinho, Jamie Redknapp, Roy Keane(brutally honest) Graham Souness and Jamie Carragher are upping United? You're kidding, right. If anything, they have become ABU's, just like ESPN FC and they look to bash them every time they lose. No other team seems to get treated as horribly as that, though Liverpool and Spurs come close to it.
Check your spell checker, you need it and see a psychiatrist whilst you’re at it, no doubt you think Antifa are behind the conspiracy?
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100% , you would think Liverpool and Man Utd (and maybe increasingly Man City now) have a god given right to win everything the way the BBC (and Sky) carry on. These broadcasters now seem to have forgotten that football existed before the Premier League era. Between the, they are ruining football.
Not as if your cause wasn’t an own goal (pun intended) is it. You have Marcus Rashford Manchester United’s former manager Jose Mourinho telling “him* to go down to get a penalty”. You couldn’t make it up.....oh wait. *players?
There is a media love in for both Liverpool and Man U. You can argue who they love more of the two tho
Liverpool are still in the champions league haaa they are actually having a better season than man u despite loads of injuries unlike at man u ??
We'll see ??
Please no. This is the ONE TIME I want Liverpool to go through as at least their team is not full of cheats and UEFA stooges lead by Florentino Perez. I want Madrid out because integrity in the CL is at stake!
A regular on here who’s a Man U season ticket holder apparently told me yesterday that winning the league doesn’t necessarily mean you the best team, he said that because United have taken 4 points off City this season this means that they’re a better team than City even if City go one to win the title, it will be interesting to hear what he thinks if City go on to win 2, 3 or even 4 trophies
Well in that case Man U are worse than Sheffield United!
Sounds about right to be fair......
Sounds about right to be fair......
Why are you making up friends? And in a HYS none the less. You need help.
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Weren't Liverpoor claiming to be the best team in Europe a couple of seasons ago even though City were league champions so Liverpoor weren't even the best team in England?
Well that's not the worst I heard.a spurs fan said he'd rather see Harry Kane be all time top scorer in league than spurs winning a trophy and there was another spurs fan said that he seen an article on an ex spurs player (sandro) about his happiest time in football was when he was with spurs and that article was more important to him( the Fan )than spurs winning a trophy.??
Sheffield Utd have took 3 points off Utd this season..means Sheffield are a better team...and man Utd took 4 points off city..so Sheffield utd are the best team in the league mate.
That is the problem of man united, they can raise their game for a derby, but then fail to keep that momentum against teams below them in the premiership, which to be honest shows just how lucky united have been.
The best team wins the league, the cup competitions are different. The best team doesn’t always win the champions league for example, as luck plays a part
Scotland claimed they were world champions after handing England their first defeat in twenty matches in 1967!
Most (not all) Entitled Utd. supporters on here are the same, totally deluded along with their manager....."winning the league doesn’t necessarily mean you're the best team" just you shows you how far their delusion has gone....
By that way of thinking Arsenal are better than Utd as they has taken 4 points from them, and Arsenal were the best team in the league as 2016 as they were the only team to do the double over Leicester
Let's be honest. If City really needed to beat Utd to win a trophy they would.
He's right in a way, under ferguson manu were only the best team about 3 years out of all the times they won. Referees giving help doesnt make the team good.
It wonder what makes Spurs then who hammered United and their £260m Back 4.
Typical Utd supporters, that's why they are disliked so much. I asked a Utd fan to name the best ever PL players and he reeled off 11 Utd players not considering any other team or player. Just shows their mentality and this considered right to purchase any player they want rather than developing their youth. £80 m for Maguire they could have bought him off Hull for a tenner. Pogba et al useless
Well his logic is flawed. City are by far the best team this season just like Liverpool were by far the best last season.
No need to make excuses about VAR or even worse Null & Voices.
As a Liverpool fan, it has to be said City are the best team in England this year.
No need to make excuses about VAR or even worse Null & Voices.
As a Liverpool fan, it has to be said City are the best team in England this year.
Let’s put some context to this Phil.
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
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Most of the BBC journos never seem to proof read these days. The number of spelling and grammatical mistakes in many articles is astonishing.
They wait and read the comments where we point out the mistakes, then they correct them. I think they sacked all the editors in place of more diversity officers
McNulty is terrible. I didn't read this article when I saw his name on it and skipped to the comments. Spelling mistakes and logical errors are to be expected.
Its the BBC. Staffed with second rate journos. So my guess is no.
This is the BBC paid for by us, the tax payer. They're not paid to proof read like most public institutes.
Agreed, but does it REALLY matter? Solskjaer, Solksjaer... we all know who he was talking about!
Let’s put some context to this Phil.
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
Ole was beaten by a better coach today. Woodward and co will see how things go next season regardless of if they win Europa league or not. But then again according to Solskjaer this week trophies are just for ego's .
You have to ask yourself what Alex Ferguson would've put up with. His team's didn't win them all, but, they never went down meekly......too inconsistent they are....
Leicester beat soon 9-0 and now face them in the semis.
In 1990, Liverpool beat Palace 9-0 and faced them in the semis. Liverpool lost 4-3. Fantastic game.
In 1990, Liverpool beat Palace 9-0 and faced them in the semis. Liverpool lost 4-3. Fantastic game.
Utter Rubbish. This is a manager who has had more success than ponchetino in a shorter space of time. How many 1/4 finals or semi finals did pooch get to ? Has to win a Trophy ? Get off your high horse, Ferguson was in the job longer before he won one at United. Ole has to be the most slated and disliked manager at the beeb. He is ahead of the crop of more respected mangers . Look long term .
I also feel theirs bias shown to United, not only by the BBC, but by the people who operate VAR, ex-players (pundits) repeatedly up united every week on television, as though United are entitled to win things and it's not right
Is this for real? You’ve got Keown, Jenas and Shearer who despise UTD and are riding a crest of a wave since Fergie left, picking them apart at every opportunity. Shearer backed UTD before the game but it was so he could rip them apart if they lost. Any pundit worth their salt would have favoured a team who’ve played 2 games in 15 days v. Relegation teams, compared to UTDs schedule in pat 2 weeks
...and then there's Michael Owen, McNulty, Simon Stone, the list goes on. These so called "pundits" are supposed to be experts in the game. They (somehow) get into a position where they can voice their opinion on all things football. So shouldn't they be fair? Then they should call it fair instead of favoring one or two (City, Liverpool).
What comes around goes around!
What comes around goes around!
Its becoming very easy for the so called pundits to find fault, when in fact , none of them could manage at a high level. Its so plain that punditry , at present does not mean they know the game. Jenas in partic for me, is so poor, and state the obvious.
I’m a Utd fan and agree with you in part pal, but would you not also back the squad that cost half a billion to assemble over the one for a fraction of that. Sod what Shearer et al say, facts are we have improved and first 11 is decent and young so will get better, but Utd of old squad could play on all fronts and still roll over a good but not great Leicester team.
Ole was beaten by a better coach today. Woodward and co will see how things go next season regardless of if they win Europa league or not. But then again according to Solskjaer this week trophies are just for ego's .
He said only this week that hes looking for progress....not necessarily trophies. A statement hes made presumably to keep the heat off him if they dont land anything.
Utter Rubbish. This is a manager who has had more success than ponchetino in a shorter space of time. How many 1/4 finals or semi finals did pooch get to ? Has to win a Trophy ? Get off your high horse, Ferguson was in the job longer before he won one at United. Ole has to be the most slated and disliked manager at the beeb. He is ahead of the crop of more respected mangers . Look long term .
Top 4 has been considered successful since the Champions league came into being. He Finished 3rd in his first full season. Pooch has been often lauded as the one who should have got the job. What's he won? Difference between successful and winning trophies, believe it or not.
OGS doesn't know what's he's doing. How they are second in the league is anyone's guess. Clueless team, no strength in depth and if you chalk off the penalties where would they be sitting. Lucky they weren't down to 10 men today. The 3-1 scoreline flattered them. Give OGS a new contract and keep the rest of the football world happy.
The point is, many of the penalties they got were illegitimate.
Since the beginning of last season, United have had as many penalties as Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham combined!!
You don't really think that's down to the style of play do you?
United are full of divers and players who scream in the referees ear. Without that, they would be 10th!
Since the beginning of last season, United have had as many penalties as Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham combined!!
You don't really think that's down to the style of play do you?
United are full of divers and players who scream in the referees ear. Without that, they would be 10th!
You are talking out of your backside pal, Leicester have had more penalties, and a goal is a goal whether it is a penalty or not
Why is that even a question?
“As for United, there is still so much in this season for them”
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
You mean the Europa League, and what else?
Putting that aside, I sighed when I saw this headline, and the article was just as insipid as I anticipated. Pray tell, why exactly “MUST” Solskjaer win trophies? There are lots of other top teams competing for the same titles. United are not special, even if they’re your favourite club.
As a Spurs fan can someone remind me what a Trophy is or what one looks like ?
Look at the Brighton side at least the trophy cabinet is still nice and clean
Spurs and trophies is one of the biggest rivalries in football they both hate each other
It's the fee they get paid for all the TRO's they collect... ??????
Should have started with Bruno and Calvani. Matic is past it and we left out Shaw was is along with Bruno was best player. Such naivety and he will cock it up in the Europa league when he repeats the same mistakes:(
Not necessarily he usually goes strong in europa
I think it will be a while before Man United win another trophy. Overall they are not very good at player shopping, and they have an average manager.
They don't have an average manager. They have a very poor completely out of his depth who was a failure at Cardiff City and should be sacked.
Average? With the players at his disposal I would say he is below average, poor even.
Utd need to get rid, today’s game was the final straw for me. The subs were a joke, should have done that at HT and keeping Fred on till he did was the final straw.
He hasn’t a clue.
Utd need to get rid, today’s game was the final straw for me. The subs were a joke, should have done that at HT and keeping Fred on till he did was the final straw.
He hasn’t a clue.
Lazy bit of Ole bashing there. He’ll be judged over a sensible period of time by more worthy folk than Phil McNulty. As a fan I’ll make my own decision about what is “good enough” and I won’t base it on a handful of one off games against pretty decent rivals. That Ole stays in the job and keeps proving the doubters wrong is some comfort. I’m happy but Phil sounds so cross, I assume he gets paid?
Actually Ole is, sadly, proving the doubters right by, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in CL with poor, poor decisions. Limply capitulated in every later stage cup match and don't even mention how he pooped his pants when meaningful tilt at the title beckoned, weak beyond belief.
I also feel theirs bias shown to United, not only by the BBC, but by the people who operate VAR, ex-players (pundits) repeatedly up united every week on television, as though United are entitled to win things and it's not right
Meant brighter
It sounds arrogant but when you're placed in the same bracket as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich when it comes to global stature you really need to be winning trophies to truly belong there. The three teams above consistently win silverware and Man Utd no longer deliver on that guarantee.
"It sounds arrogant but when you're placed in the same bracket as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich"
Not arrogant just deluded, the only thing that Utd are in the same bracket as those clubs is financial clout, the only English club in the same bracket as those clubs in footballing terms is Liverpool as their European successes show.
Not arrogant just deluded, the only thing that Utd are in the same bracket as those clubs is financial clout, the only English club in the same bracket as those clubs in footballing terms is Liverpool as their European successes show.
That's true. Real had this problem as well(though I despise them) as it was the same club who won 2 La Ligas in 10 seasons. At least they kept winning the Champions League. United have to find a way to do that if they are up there with the Real Madrids, Juventuses, and Bayern Munich.
Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern have all dominated Europe at various stages over last 50 years. Same applies to Liverpool and AC Milan. Man U have never dominated Europe - even under Alex Ferguson. To put it simply, their players were not nearly as good in Europe as in English league. CRonaldo being an exception. Now some of these ex-players are pundits who seem to believe they ruled Europe!!False.
Your comparison is not like for like. These 3 clubs have dominated their domestic leagues more consistently than is possible in England. History shows teams in England having temporary dominance but always the balance of power shifts eventually. Bayern (since late 1960s), Real and Barca (through history) have always dominated their countries. No one in England has sustained such dominance
A definition of intelligence is:able to learn by experience. But Ole’seems to have learnt nothing following elimination from the champions’ league after some stupid decisions he made. In a winnable decisive away game against theTurks he fielded an understrength side and we lost. Again today he against dangerous opponents started this knock out game by leaving some of his best players on the bench.
Spot on. When players win, they just want to play the next game. OGS paid the the price for stupid rotation, disrespecting Leicester and the FA cup. I just hope the United board wait until the season has finished before even thinking about contract talks.
Team has no direction, passing is terrible, link up play is non existance, team is boring and slow, too much backward football, no spark, no tempo, no pressure to chase opponents down
2 weeks ago, loads of Utd fans were kicking off because OGS didn't rest Fernandes and others for an important league game. Now you're kicking off because he did rest them! Not a lot of logic there, is there, boyo? Not much intelligence on show either. Make your mind up, eh...
To me he is a poor coach/man manager..Ole is just a figurehead for other coaches, without them hes clueless at the top level and with the money they spend they should be competitive on the trophy front.
Look at the Brighton side at least the trophy cabinet is still nice and clean
Ole doesn't know what he is doing, no strategy, no shape, no spine, no leadership, no nothing, bottled the league when in pole and every other game that has mattered since he got the job.
Rubbish. As you don't know anything about football, go and eat some of your prawn sandwiches instead
I agree on the last point about bottling the league and games that matter. Apart from that, it's not his fault Paul Pogba is a selfish fool, not his fault Martial dives all the time, and not his fault that Ed Woodward doesn't seem to know what he's doing 75% of the time.
McNulty trying to get managers the sack again.
At the start of the season, I would not have had Man Utd in the top 3 and I personally think Solskjaer is over-achieving with this current Utd squad.
Utd sacked both Van Gaal and Mourinho after they won Cup competitions so a precedent has been set there. The priorities are progression in the league and European success.
Solskjaer is still on target.
At the start of the season, I would not have had Man Utd in the top 3 and I personally think Solskjaer is over-achieving with this current Utd squad.
Utd sacked both Van Gaal and Mourinho after they won Cup competitions so a precedent has been set there. The priorities are progression in the league and European success.
Solskjaer is still on target.
Let’s put some context to this Phil.
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
MUFC have played 5 games in 2 weeks. Inc away wins v City (best team in the world) and high flying AC Milan in the past 7 days.
Leicester have had TWO games in 15 days: Brighton and Sheff UTD - one of the worst performing teams in the country this season
So does this really warrant War & Peace about how Ole has let slip a trophy opportunity?
Utter Rubbish. This is a manager who has had more success than ponchetino in a shorter space of time. How many 1/4 finals or semi finals did pooch get to ? Has to win a Trophy ? Get off your high horse, Ferguson was in the job longer before he won one at United. Ole has to be the most slated and disliked manager at the beeb. He is ahead of the crop of more respected mangers . Look long term .
A definition of intelligence is:able to learn by experience. But Ole’seems to have learnt nothing following elimination from the champions’ league after some stupid decisions he made. In a winnable decisive away game against theTurks he fielded an understrength side and we lost. Again today he against dangerous opponents started this knock out game by leaving some of his best players on the bench.
Use your brain most of those players have overplayed in the past 5/6 weeks that’s why they are picking up injuries. The players he put out today in the place of others are internationals.
Quite agree players want to play if they win, probably 7 days ago not 3, like it has been for last 5/6 weeks. He has not disrespected the Cup, Van de Beek, Telles, Matic, Pogba, Martial all internationals. I get fed of you so called Utd fans who one minute are shouting from the rooftops great result, the next sack him. GO & SUPPORT SOMEONE ELSE
Solskjær spouts absolute nonsense week in week out. He was never the right choice for permanent manager as his Cardiff City credentials proved. He is beyond a joke and United are going nowhere with him as manager. A new contract is suicidal for the club and will just hold them back even more. Sack him now otherwise prepare for more years in the wilderness.
Well, he certainly doesn't spout as much nonsense as you. You're living in cloud cuckoo land, pal. And what wilderness would the club be in? Oh yes, the one that gives you CL football every year. Get behind the team and stop whingeing
Can you even LIFT an axe? You seem to want to wield it a lot.
Liverpool are still in the champions league haaa they are actually having a better season than man u despite loads of injuries unlike at man u ??
At one point Liverpool had 9 players out with serious injuries. This has been highlighted in the media as to how many days missing by players in each PL club, Utd were on 426, Liverpool were on 1,147! Liverpool have suffered injuries that dwarf any other club, that being the only reason they aren't in contention this season, so make the excuses for utd all you want, they have none! Liverpool do!
Pogba has missed 8 games through injury this season and Martial has missed 3.
But yeah, that's really comparable to having your best 3 centrebacks injured for the rest of the season.......
If United had Maguire/Bailly/Lindelof out for the whole season, they would be relegated. Even Rio Ferdinand said so.
But yeah, that's really comparable to having your best 3 centrebacks injured for the rest of the season.......
If United had Maguire/Bailly/Lindelof out for the whole season, they would be relegated. Even Rio Ferdinand said so.
The board and a lot of our fans have losers the bar for the fraud . Europa league? keep it. Didn't value it under Jose and still don't. Ole will get a new deal, we 'll continue to hear "progress ", with absolutely zero proof of it. If you're man utd and not within touching distance of the prem, and making the latter stages of the CL, then you're not a success.2 and a half years of this bluffer??
Man City have gone on an unbelievable run- 21 wins in a row was it? And who ended it? No other club's got near them, it's not Solskjaer's fault if another club is so far ahead. What do you want OGS to do against City's squad? Where are Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal this season? Where were Utd three or four years ago? Hanging around 4th-7th. You're blind or trolling if you think otherwise.
So who do you replace OGS with. Moyes destroyed the back room system. LGV & Mourinho both pedigree managers failed. What next.
Having witnessed his managerial decisions first-hand at Cardiff City, I can confirm that we might as well have had Ronald McDonald in charge. The whole club was a circus then, mind you, but that's besides the point.
Anyway, I'm enjoying Man United under OGS. FantasTICK fun!
Anyway, I'm enjoying Man United under OGS. FantasTICK fun!
That’s what they said about Ferguson before he won his first trophy after five years with the club. The clamour to sack him because he was useless in his third season when they finished 11th was almost deafening.
Man Utd had a good run. You could say their days as Manchester's premier club, never mind England's are done for a few years yet...
A definition of intelligence is:able to learn by experience. But Ole’seems to have learnt nothing following elimination from the champions’ league after some stupid decisions he made. In a winnable decisive away game against theTurks he fielded an understrength side and we lost. Again today he against dangerous opponents started this knock out game by leaving some of his best players on the bench.
My view is Ole is doing his best and he has taken the team as far as he can. Look to Chelsea and see what an experienced coach can achieve with the same team. Old Trafford will be looking at what happened at Chelsea and will be thinking hard how to progress. I don’t think we will be in top 4 at the end of the season
Solskjær is killing the club and has lost the fan base. Just go, and now.
One defeat and you start mouthing off. What sort of a supporter are you? A fair weather one, obviously. It's clear to anyone looking on objectively that Utd are making real progress, so get behind the team and the manager instead of trying to stab them in the back. As for McNulty's article, it's the usual simplistic bull we've come to expect from him
Snowflakes like you are an absolute disgrace. Go and support city, fan boy
Every United manager since Busby has won trophies - you could even count Moyes winning the Charity Shield if you like!
The board and a lot of our fans have losers the bar for the fraud . Europa league? keep it. Didn't value it under Jose and still don't. Ole will get a new deal, we 'll continue to hear "progress ", with absolutely zero proof of it. If you're man utd and not within touching distance of the prem, and making the latter stages of the CL, then you're not a success.2 and a half years of this bluffer??
Man City have gone on an unbelievable run- 21 wins in a row was it? And who ended it? No other club's got near them, it's not Solskjaer's fault if another club is so far ahead. What do you want OGS to do against City's squad? Where are Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal this season? Where were Utd three or four years ago? Hanging around 4th-7th. You're blind or trolling if you think otherwise.
That's because they did not play Leicester in them 21 games...
who was it again who beat them 5-2 in their home ground at the start of the season? + the same team has also beaten the rest of the so called top 6 this season.
who was it again who beat them 5-2 in their home ground at the start of the season? + the same team has also beaten the rest of the so called top 6 this season.
Team that beat you yesterday easy beat them 5 2.away .get with it. Erm OGS for starter improve crecruitment esp centre defence..keep going Ole we love you lol
so much foolishness and incorrect facts in this comment , 400 characters isn't enough to reply to it all. I'll just say, you're incorrect on every point you've made. Google a few things before replying moving forward
Would United be as strong if Liverpool had 2 FIT CB's? Like stars aligned for Leicester to win PL the stars have been favourable to United and the best they can do is limp to second. At least Liverpool gave City a good run for their money in the last 2 seasons when injuries didn't decimate their team.
Yup, a great win for Leicester City, but of course the Phil McNulty flips it around, barely mentions Leicester City and he turns into yet another article about Manchester United.
Just why are the BBC SO obsessed with Man Utd ?
Well done, Leicester City. A club that just gets on with playing good football consistently.
Just why are the BBC SO obsessed with Man Utd ?
Well done, Leicester City. A club that just gets on with playing good football consistently.
Because this HYS has got 1000 comments. Look at other teams lucky if they get a couple of hundred. Still the biggest show in town..
The Leicester articles are elsewhere you clown. If you don't want to read about Man United, scroll past.
Abramovich cut loose Lampard when it was obvious he wasn't going to get the PL/CL trophies...
...the Man Utd board seem far less ruthless but Ole is no different to Lampard...tactically inept.
...the Man Utd board seem far less ruthless but Ole is no different to Lampard...tactically inept.
Ole's United can finish second in current season. If the win remaining 9 matches they will have 84 points. Jose's united in 2017-18 got 2nd position with 81 points. So it is tough job for Ole to pass Jose 81 points records. Jose in 2and half year won 3 trophies for United. Ole in his 2 and half years spell yet to win his first trophy. Ole is getting extension. Great.
Where were Man Utd in Jose's third season?
And where is Jose now?
And where is Jose now?
Charity shield is not a trophy its charity match and that's coming from a fan of the team that won it this year. Its embarrassing when people include this in trophy hauls.
Keep him at wheel.. coupled with recruitmnt resign United to going losing big games
Ole is nothing more than the Glazer's tool. No ambition, just content with a top-four finish - even though they cant even compete in the UCL. Ole hasn't got United to second, they've been carried by
Bruno. Nearly everyone else is underperforming. Worser than LVG and Jose's reigns.
Bruno. Nearly everyone else is underperforming. Worser than LVG and Jose's reigns.
I hope you're not a red
Solskjaer out !!! NOW !!! I find it funny that Jesse Lingard is scoring every game for West Ham but couldnt even get in the United team. That means Solskjaer cannot manage players.
Valid point well put..though Lingard should have left by now , content sit on fat wages
No, not really..he was absolutely hopeless. Don't use Lingard as an example
Jesse's best spot is at number 10. I like him, but I would rather have Bruno in my first squad than Lingard.
BTW I believe Juan Mata was a natural CAM as well. He was misused by 3 managers at Man Utd, which is a pity. That boy had talent and it was wasted out wide.
BTW I believe Juan Mata was a natural CAM as well. He was misused by 3 managers at Man Utd, which is a pity. That boy had talent and it was wasted out wide.
Lazy bit of Ole bashing there. He’ll be judged over a sensible period of time by more worthy folk than Phil McNulty. As a fan I’ll make my own decision about what is “good enough” and I won’t base it on a handful of one off games against pretty decent rivals. That Ole stays in the job and keeps proving the doubters wrong is some comfort. I’m happy but Phil sounds so cross, I assume he gets paid?
Manchester United standards are not being met. The players are not good enough. The board are not helping Ole. They should be buying 4-5 world class players this summer for him eg Mbappe, Sancho then trophies will be won. Ole cant win with a poor squad such as this.
Mbappe is world class.
Sancho is a bluffer playing in an open league.
Haaland is world class.
Can’t see Mbappe or Haaland going to Penchester
Sancho is a bluffer playing in an open league.
Haaland is world class.
Can’t see Mbappe or Haaland going to Penchester
What I want to know is who brought in VDB to the club, may as well of played with 10 men today, he’s been awful since he came to the club, and how the hell does Martial get away with so many pathetic performances, Ole out please.
VDB was a good player in the Netherlands and should have been a good purchase but I don't think he was OGS choice. Alledgedly Martial is kept, and played, because the Glazers like him. Personally I would move both on.
He’s young so has some hope but he obviously wasn’t one of the key players making Ajax so good.
It’s a bit like if someone bought Sergio Busquets. Sure he a Barca player with loads of trophies but they aren’t down to him. He’s the Spanish Fabian Delph.
It’s a bit like if someone bought Sergio Busquets. Sure he a Barca player with loads of trophies but they aren’t down to him. He’s the Spanish Fabian Delph.
Ole's United can finish second in current season. If the win remaining 9 matches they will have 84 points. Jose's united in 2017-18 got 2nd position with 81 points. So it is tough job for Ole to pass Jose 81 points records. Jose in 2and half year won 3 trophies for United. Ole in his 2 and half years spell yet to win his first trophy. Ole is getting extension. Great.