UK government borrowing hits February record as virus impact continues
19/03/2021 | news | business | 1,866
The government borrowed £19.1bn last month, the highest figure for February since records began.
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:35:04 25 23
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Watch them get slated by the same bunch who want everything paid for by the public purse ??
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cb
19/03/2021 10:38:12 24 22
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What? The Tory Toff’s chums?
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19/03/2021 10:35:29 22 16
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Well there is a surprise. Considering this time last year we were all free to go about our normal lives
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19/03/2021 10:47:33 21 7
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I don't think so..19th March 2020 a time when EU countries were closing borders with zero notice, people panic buying fresh bread, toilet rolls, soap, pasta, tinned food etc, shelves of some items were empty. Schools on the 20th were closing. This time last year was far from normal..
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19/03/2021 10:48:02 3 4
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Gold cup day. Didn't a certain Mr Johnson present the trophy last year.
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19/03/2021 11:03:17 5 3
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End of Feb 2020 my local councilor was arranging a meeting with our new Tory MP to flag concerns about the lack of action to prepare for the crisis that we could see coming.
It had been discussed at the local level and we were already worried that action was not being taken to prepare.
A full month went by before the gov got off it's rear end and introduced the lockdown, a month wasted.
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19/03/2021 10:35:41 11 20
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Reckless, carefree borrowing.
Deepest pandemic G7 economic recession.
Hugely abused furlough scheme.
Young healthy people's lives ruined to protect the most aged and unhealthy.
Home secretary allowing mass demonstrations to take place during first lockdown but telling police to arrest people for sitting on a park bench with a friend.
This really is a very strange "Conservative" government.
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19/03/2021 10:38:09 7 6
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Another misleading headline. The impact of the "Lockdown" not "Virus". A political decision in response to the virus.
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19/03/2021 10:39:24 6 5
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and your answers are.... exactly.
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19/03/2021 10:42:47 3 5
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When you finish university you might understand politics and economics a bit better.
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19/03/2021 11:03:37 2 1
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I don't believe that we have the deepest recession in the G7. Anti-British media propaganda.
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19/03/2021 12:49:17 1 0
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I take it you did not get furloughed. People needed the extra help. Dip into your deep pockets and get some spare change out for the unfortunate.
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19/03/2021 10:37:00 150 17
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£19.1bn, that's £500 for every person of working age. You would be at your wits end if you had to borrow that every month just to get by.

Sadly, you just did, and you will do again next month.
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19/03/2021 11:02:09 157 189
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And think, we would be borrowing this much without Covid 19 if JC had won the election
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19/03/2021 11:33:02 11 13
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In these circumstances that have been entirely thrust upon us; the government would be facing even more and louder criticism if they refused to borrow any more money and basically let the country fend for itself.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
473
19/03/2021 11:46:24 14 0
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And we haven't even footed the bill for BREXIT yet!
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19/03/2021 11:54:10 9 0
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Be at wits end then, debt is now over 2 Trillion pounds, that is about £30000 each for every women, man and child. A family of four needs the bread winner to pay off £120000.
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19/03/2021 12:17:49 2 9
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Be glad you aren't in the EU , they'll have to bail out the Eurozone's Southern States as well as themselves.
19/03/2021 13:50:16 0 4
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Some of it will be paid off by business taxes not only personal taxes.
19/03/2021 14:24:40 2 0
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Thats a mere drop in the Ocean to BOE "Free Money Giveaway"

£60,000 per household and counting on QE

That doesn't even include TFS, TFSE.

Lets not forget Covid is only 20% of the actual debt.

Don't let the 3 parties off with that out.
19/03/2021 14:47:29 4 0
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Inflation and a slide in the currency will bring the real shock of Brexit.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
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Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:40:51 22 42
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Sorry I never got past his leg spreading
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19/03/2021 10:42:15 12 3
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As was Professor Valance don't forget.
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19/03/2021 10:44:33 32 12
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Rory was definitely the most realistic and honest Tory in recent times. Wholly agree that we would all have been much better off if he took over instead of the incompetent one.
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19/03/2021 10:42:04 9 21
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Stewart is Tory Lite. Him and Starmer should start a new party.
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19/03/2021 10:46:46 13 18
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I imagine I'd be in a much better position personally if I could make decisions retrospectively.
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19/03/2021 10:50:31 4 13
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Was that before or after he called three black men "gangsters"?
272
19/03/2021 11:19:05 15 5
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We lost a politician with world experience, morality, integrity and honesty for the sake of a buffoon.
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19/03/2021 11:20:00 0 1
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Yes, I watched the full interview where he said that herd immunity was one suggestion and not actually what he was advocating.
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19/03/2021 11:31:03 6 1
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I knew Rory Stewart would never be selected as leader of the the Tory party. The average Tory party member seems to be blinded by some ridiculous political dogma that has driven Brexit, and is driving the UK into the ground. Even now, I doubt most of them can see it.

When Rory was dropped from the leadership race, the Tories lost a big opportunity to drag their party into the 21st century.
763
19/03/2021 12:26:24 0 6
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No. Who is Rory Stewart? I did hear Ursula and the EU in meltdown mind you over the UK's successful vaccine program.
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19/03/2021 12:37:15 0 3
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Thankfully we all treated him as a joke.
19/03/2021 13:57:51 2 0
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"Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic"

I think you'll find his wing of the Tory Party have been expelled
19/03/2021 14:19:14 1 1
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All of those policies have been a disaster from both a health and economic perspective.
19/03/2021 14:54:54 0 2
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We’d still be in a Brexit blockage. We might even have had Corbyn as PM.

Boris has major faults, but at least he’s done what the population voted for. Difficult to argue with the 2019 GE result.
19/03/2021 15:07:41 0 2
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Boris never advocated herd immunity.

Please stop repeating this false & ridiculous claim.
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19/03/2021 10:35:41 11 20
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Reckless, carefree borrowing.
Deepest pandemic G7 economic recession.
Hugely abused furlough scheme.
Young healthy people's lives ruined to protect the most aged and unhealthy.
Home secretary allowing mass demonstrations to take place during first lockdown but telling police to arrest people for sitting on a park bench with a friend.
This really is a very strange "Conservative" government.
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19/03/2021 10:38:09 7 6
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Another misleading headline. The impact of the "Lockdown" not "Virus". A political decision in response to the virus.
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:35:04 25 23
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Watch them get slated by the same bunch who want everything paid for by the public purse ??
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cb
19/03/2021 10:38:12 24 22
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What? The Tory Toff’s chums?
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19/03/2021 11:04:10 1 2
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No, the magic money tree lefties.
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19/03/2021 12:11:58 0 0
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funny how people use the term 'toff' freely, yet go bananas if someone says 'pleb'...
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19/03/2021 10:38:40 2 5
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We'll still be paying this off when the next pandemic rolls around...
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19/03/2021 10:39:01 133 54
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Just get through it and move on. We aren't the only Country borrowing
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19/03/2021 10:49:29 91 126
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Just the worst.
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19/03/2021 10:49:44 12 6
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Every small business is now saddled with debt, more collateral damage from lockdowns. The banks are the only winners.
Funny how we all use comparisons with other other countries when it suits our agenda, and dismiss them as incomparable when it doesn't.
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19/03/2021 10:51:29 17 12
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Go to beach, dig hole, insert head.
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19/03/2021 10:59:30 5 3
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So we ignore it then?
797
19/03/2021 12:20:45 2 2
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Then let's not worry about anything, as other countries have bigger problems than us.
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19/03/2021 13:00:43 0 0
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It doesn’t work like that ??
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19/03/2021 10:35:41 11 20
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Reckless, carefree borrowing.
Deepest pandemic G7 economic recession.
Hugely abused furlough scheme.
Young healthy people's lives ruined to protect the most aged and unhealthy.
Home secretary allowing mass demonstrations to take place during first lockdown but telling police to arrest people for sitting on a park bench with a friend.
This really is a very strange "Conservative" government.
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19/03/2021 10:39:24 6 5
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and your answers are.... exactly.
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19/03/2021 10:43:11 3 4
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The lefties never have answers. Not sensible ones anyway.
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19/03/2021 11:14:00 2 1
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Dunno... maybe try simple slogans for simple people, it seems to be working fine for these clowns. Maybe something like "dates not data" to begin with..... ??
Thanks BJ for this mess
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19/03/2021 10:41:20 2 2
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Very clever
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19/03/2021 10:44:30 0 3
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No. Thank Covid and the CCP.
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19/03/2021 11:01:24 2 1
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Do you honestly think any alternative Prime minster, such as Corbyn, would have done better?
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19/03/2021 10:39:54 34 16
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What this last year has shown is there are some things we can’t afford not to spend both money and time managing full and efficient running of essential services, including having full staff numbers.

In this case not spending these things on the NHS over several years has led to spending an extra double its annual budget in a year, shutting down the economy so it's 'protected'.
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19/03/2021 10:47:49 70 38
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The NHS is an unsustainable luxury that throws money away. It needs root and branch reform to take it back to its original purpose of treating the sick from this country that pay taxes.
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19/03/2021 11:00:27 5 3
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Common sense would suggest to spend the money in increasing NHS capacity, rather than inflict the carnage that lockdowns have done on small to medium businesses, which are now all crippled with debts. It hasn't affected the multi nationals or billionaires etc, if it had done then there would've been no lockdowns that's for sure.
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19/03/2021 12:10:15 4 1
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which country had funded its health service so amazingly that covid had no effect on their economy then?
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19/03/2021 12:13:20 4 3
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The NHS is full of dossers. It's a black hole of stupidity and inefficiency. I have done business with NHS trusts for years and they're the stupidest org in existence.
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19/03/2021 12:15:37 1 3
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Sorry, you're wrong about that.
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19/03/2021 10:40:03 6 14
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Rishi Sunak will go down in history as the most reckless chancellor of all time, and what is amazing is he’s not labour!!!!
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Kaa
19/03/2021 10:45:11 5 4
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No, but you can bet that this will all be Labours fault once the election comes around.
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19/03/2021 10:43:55 2 3
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I hope you enjoy him being your Prime Minister one day.
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19/03/2021 10:46:56 2 0
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Yet the policies he introduced to allow furlough, amongst others, are essentially Socialist.

Reckless? I expect you'd be happier if he'd just let people starve?
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19/03/2021 10:40:04 5 2
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Regardless of the political views of the rights and wrongs of what has happened, the one universal truth is that our economy and society will be paying for this for a long long time, both financially, mentally and physically.
19/03/2021 16:30:08 1 0
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The other universal truth is that what we are seeing is the end game of 2007, Covid will provide the excuses for the financial consequences and US, EU and UK politicians will try and put the blame on it.
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19/03/2021 10:40:29 0 6
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Justified. 100 % . We must borrow as much as we can just to spend it all and enjoy our lives. Carpe Diem, Seize the day. Memento Mori can wait. You only have one life. Enjoy while it lasts. Without borrowing and living beyond our means we cannot achieve the 10th level of perfection aka socialism.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
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Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:40:51 22 42
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Sorry I never got past his leg spreading
726
19/03/2021 12:20:41 1 0
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well that's your level of political engagement made obvious then. Kind of sad. Someone sounds fun and you'll follow him. So many popular leaders have shafted countries. Even Kohemeni was welcomed
19/03/2021 16:49:55 0 0
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Well that speaks volumes about you.
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19/03/2021 10:40:54 1 9
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It makes sense in the midst of an economic contraction for the government to spend more, not less.

Just as long as it does not impact on the measly NHS 1%
All hail the mighty magic money forest.
Thanks BJ for this mess
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19/03/2021 10:41:20 2 2
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Very clever
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19/03/2021 10:41:28 14 14
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Our lockdowns have saved an estimated 50,000 lives. Given an average age of death from covid at 80, losing 10 years of life, we've saved 500,000 years of human life with lockdowns. For any other illness, the NHS assign £30,000 per year of life saved, so they'd spend £15billion to have this much impact. We seem to have valued the life of a Covid victim much, much higher than for any other illness.
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19/03/2021 10:45:34 11 9
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Given a starting position of 600,000 direct deaths, rising to over 2 million if hospitals are overwhelmed, you've massively underestimated the number of lives saved. The cost of not locking down is far, far, higher than the cost of lockdown so far.
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19/03/2021 10:44:13 2 7
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Your estimate is very wrong

Without lockdowns we’d have had 500,000 dead

And more potentially worse mutations
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19/03/2021 10:53:02 5 1
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I guess your conclusion depends heavily on how many lives were saved, which is an unknown quantity. Could be much higher.

But I agree with your sentiment, the brazen bias shown to Covid over and above every disease in existence is nothing short of bizarre. But like the Reddit Wallstreet thing, it's easy to whip up hysteria and popularity for a cause and crush any dissenting voices & opinions.
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19/03/2021 10:58:53 1 1
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You are right, but the difference is that Covid was new and unexpected, and so caused much more fear and worry than other illnesses with which we are are more familiar.
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19/03/2021 10:42:00 16 10
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Look at history we had to borrow a fortune to fight WW2 and that was not finally repaid until 2006.
This pandemic is little different , it needs to be beaten and this will cost, a cost which will be repaid over the next 40 years or so.
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19/03/2021 10:46:11 8 10
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Unfortunately, it isn't as black and white as that and there are various levels of beating the virus, from eradicating completely to letting it rip. Some might argue we have been too close to trying to eradicate completely, hence the high cost.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
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Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:42:15 12 3
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As was Professor Valance don't forget.
19/03/2021 15:09:31 0 0
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No, he didn't.
He said herd immunity would POSSIBLY be a result of doing nothing to halt the spread of the virus & in the same statement, he said this could result in 4-500,000 deaths,
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19/03/2021 10:35:41 2 6
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It’s all about Brexit I mean covid furlough

More billions chucked away for bent passports and no exports
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19/03/2021 10:55:08 2 3
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Remoaner rubbish.
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19/03/2021 10:37:48 273 95
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Scrap HS2 save 150 billion!
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19/03/2021 10:48:33 230 112
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Bojo would just spend the money on some other vanity project, like extra nuclear warheads or a feasibility study into a bridge to America.
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19/03/2021 11:07:29 32 21
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you dont save money by scrapping HS2, what you do is put 1000's of construction workers out of a job for the next 30 years, so instead of building something useful, we will just be paying for these people to be on benefits.
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19/03/2021 11:13:25 26 12
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HS2 isn't about speed!!
Speed is a by-product of increased capacity.
HS2 is about getting freight off the road and onto rail.
It's like turning a dual carriageway into a motorway.
It will increase branch line traffic and take thousands of polluting trucks of the road.
Having an additional line also means maintenance will have less impact on services.
It will create 10,000+ jobs.
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19/03/2021 11:21:47 6 4
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But it wouldn’t because thousands if not a million jobs would be lost and that’s effectively money that wouldn’t be recirculated through direct and indirect taxes back to treasury, and I can think of one steelworks that specialises in producing the steel rails and if that goes under so does the town it supports??
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19/03/2021 11:25:15 12 9
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Absolutely.

For £150bn we could probably put together a British space mission that would allow some lucky British women to plant a British flag on the moon!

Imagine the jobs, tech and prestige that would generate.

Most of the money for HS2 is to dig holes and buy up land at inflated prices. It's a project no one cares about, except those rich Tory donors who are being made even richer.
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19/03/2021 11:00:24 7 9
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Too late. There will be cancellation clauses, so won;t save an awful lot. It was a Blair idea anyway originally. But I still think it is a terrible idea.
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19/03/2021 11:35:33 8 6
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Invent a vaccine to stop the tory leadership lying; would save even more!
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19/03/2021 11:11:45 1 3
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You will need HS2 when nobody has cars anymore ??
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19/03/2021 11:49:05 2 2
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How do those BBC employees that will be moved to Birmingham get back and forward to London. Build it and it will be used.
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19/03/2021 11:49:45 2 2
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Its large scale infrastructure projects that boost the economy. Besides, you will only moan when the railway network falls apart or at all the delays on the current line when they have to pull it apart one bit at a time to upgrade it over the next 50 years
510
19/03/2021 11:52:19 5 3
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Scrap our Tory Government and save 150 Trillion! - they are systematically trashing this country and plundering its resources to support their mates. Why aren't there people demonstrating on the streets? Oh I forgot, they are banning that too!
565
19/03/2021 11:59:47 2 3
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Rubbish!
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19/03/2021 12:18:26 1 1
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Under the impression that the sky is falling, Chicken Little sounds the alarm to his community. Telling everyone to run for their lives, he sets in motion a series of chaotic events. Chicken Little’s self-generated incident of mass chaos and confusion results in tremendous damage to his community, which later turns on him after they realise that his panicked warnings were all entirely unnecessary.
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19/03/2021 12:38:29 1 0
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economics do not actually work like that
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19/03/2021 12:43:40 1 2
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Don't talk stupid. This country will need infrastructure projects to get back on its feet. Billions have already been spent on HS2. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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19/03/2021 12:46:43 1 1
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Stop Trident you mean.
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19/03/2021 10:39:02 3 5
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Stand by for inane comments about "What a surprise we are borrowing"

For the smarter people the interest is why the level isn't falling and whatimpact is lost tax revenue due to Brexit having.
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19/03/2021 10:54:29 1 4
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Yes, an inane predictable anti-Brexit comment.
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19/03/2021 10:39:50 59 20
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People who are not even born yet will be paying this back all their lives ??
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19/03/2021 10:53:43 46 30
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This is true, but what alternative was there? No government could have avoided spending and borrowing this money.
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19/03/2021 10:59:28 7 4
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Nothing new there.
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19/03/2021 11:13:55 13 3
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Just the same as taking five decades paying for the Second World War
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19/03/2021 11:35:54 5 3
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The government borrowed almost all of it from themselves.
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19/03/2021 11:18:37 6 3
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What a ridiculous things to say.

Arguably, we're currently still paying for the 1990s sub-prime mortgage fiasco ... probably the 1970's recession .. probably even WW2.

If you think our economy should only pay for 'today' .. then maybe you should stop writing comments on finance.
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19/03/2021 12:06:01 6 1
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I spent most of my working life paying off the debts incurred by WWII which ended before I was born.
However I don't begrudge it as without that expense I might not even exist.
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19/03/2021 12:32:51 2 1
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What's new? Has always been the case unless you default.
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19/03/2021 12:40:43 1 1
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we were paying back debt from 200 years ago until recently, just a big never never scheme, those debt payments paid for private pensions, just how things are
19/03/2021 13:43:28 0 0
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We're still paying back war debt. Nothing has changed here.
19/03/2021 14:13:33 1 0
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Same as any tax payers now, I was paying back war debt for my 1st few decades in work, despite being born in the 60's
19/03/2021 15:20:34 0 0
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I’m 48 and our debt to the U.S. from the war was still being paid most of that time.
The alternative to length of debt is higher more frequent repayments....?
19/03/2021 16:50:46 0 0
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Throughout our working lives we paid back money to the USA which our grandparents age-group of politicians borrowed to see the UK through WWII. This is how wars are paid for, and the Covid situation is equally serious. This is what society is about. Childless couples paid for education of generations of children, and for previous generation's pensions. Why don't people understand this?
20/03/2021 09:55:59 0 0
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Better than being born into a country with a collapsed economy.
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19/03/2021 10:42:39 7 7
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Most of which Bozo will spaff up a wall.
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19/03/2021 10:42:44 11 12
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Bloody socialists - can't be trusted with the economy and always happy to spend other people's money.
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19/03/2021 10:42:58 2 11
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Who cares. The people who are going to have to pay all this back haven't even been born yet.
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19/03/2021 10:52:09 2 1
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I and lots of other people care.
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19/03/2021 10:42:58 68 32
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A massive but completely necessary level of borrowing.
Its how well we cope with recovery now that will count and hopefully we are in a better position than other countries as to when that may start.
I also think there is a big pent up demand from the public many who will be out there making 'feel good' purchases and enjoying holidays in this country, so that will help the economy massively.
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19/03/2021 10:59:42 65 19
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Well, some of the country. The poorer ones, the ones who have had to keep working , had the most infections, may well not have spare money to spend. It would be good to remember this
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19/03/2021 11:08:23 8 9
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No not necessary.

Had the government acted decisively at the beginning of March 2020, had they introduced quarantine last year, had they locked down in September as called for by SAGE, these costs would have been a fraction of what has been incurred due to the incompetent handling of the crisis.
Add in failed Test and trace, dodgy contracts to cronies, etc... and the figures are way over.
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19/03/2021 11:12:21 6 10
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Last 10 years of austerity has increased our debt massively and we're paying back less and less. That wasn't necessary borrowing.

The COVID borrow has been necessary...

but I wonder how much we would have had to borrow if there was no Austerity, if the NHS had been properly invested in, had we locked down harder and sooner, instead of the dithering our government has done.
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dan
19/03/2021 11:24:40 11 2
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Funny how when the conservatives spend its "completely necessary" but when labour did during the financial it was reckless.

Spaffing billions up the wall on a rubbish test and trace system and paying millions to your mates as middle men isn't necessary, it's incompetence and cronyism wrapped into one.
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19/03/2021 11:30:01 2 1
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No. Much furlough money has been wasted.
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19/03/2021 11:33:08 4 4
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Don't forget we've got the double whammy of Brexit.

It's looking quite likely our economy is not going to recover very well compared to rest of Europe. Which will make it all the harder to start repaying that debt.
19/03/2021 14:36:13 1 0
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A country where £2,500 (£5,000 a couple) £60,000 a year is deemed not enough and £73 JSA too much.

Morally bankrupt.
Throw in unnecessary schemes
Eat Out to Spread About
£10,000 Holiday Let money
Stamp Duty a few others
£Billions wasted or "stolen"

You didn't need to be Einstein to figure it out beforehand either.
19/03/2021 17:19:34 0 0
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You must be intelligent unlike most of the comments
bob
20/03/2021 10:26:33 0 0
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Only if it is spent in the UK economy and not on a load of imports.
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19/03/2021 10:43:14 6 4
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The government has been spending like there is no tomorrow. I guarantee this will not be paid back to even pre covid levels within 10 years.
Inflation is how the government is hoping to cushion the huge blow to the public debt burden.
However interest rates would naturally rise to combat inflation. This could seriously damage finances even further.
Spend yes, but not to the hilt and back.
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19/03/2021 10:43:39 5 7
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The response to COVID really has ripped up the Tory orthodoxy of the last 10 years - austerity was never a necessity but a political choice. With a fiat currency government debt is practically meaningless.
No surprises, however, when it will be the poorest who feel the effects of COVID for years to come. Will the Tories continue to blame labour for a sub-prime mortgage collapse in the 2000s?
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19/03/2021 10:46:34 3 1
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oh dear. 'debt is meaningless'. is this Dianne abbot speaking? we pay interest on the debt, currently a higher interest bill than the entire education budget. and given some peoples understanding of debt...that education budget needs all the help it can get...
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19/03/2021 10:51:28 0 1
bbc
Will Labour have any alternative to offer? All they do is demand even more spending.
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19/03/2021 10:44:07 3 4
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But still there are journalists and members of the public who egg Whitty, Van Tam and Vallance to be ultra cautious and extend Lockdown. The BOE could have generated money to pay for Furlough through Sovereign money creation QE, but instead they continue with the failed old QE to entice companies to but Gilts.
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19/03/2021 10:44:28 4 3
bbc
If we follow Andy Verity's analysis we'll end up like the Socialst Utopia of Venezuela.
Perhaps that's the intention.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
bbc
Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:44:33 32 12
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Rory was definitely the most realistic and honest Tory in recent times. Wholly agree that we would all have been much better off if he took over instead of the incompetent one.
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19/03/2021 11:04:30 3 8
bbc
Are you referring to Theresa May as the 'incompetent one'?
19/03/2021 15:54:06 1 0
bbc
We'd have been better off if Mr Blobby had taken over instead of Boris, and indeed most of the speeches would have made more sense....
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19/03/2021 10:44:34 3 12
bbc
So they borrowed £19.1bn in a month! That's almost £300 for every man, woman and child in the UK.

Gordon Brown's "borrow now pay later" economic "miracle" did untold damage but that should have been largely sorted with years of austerity. What on earth are they spending it on? Not me or my family for sure.

The only crumb of comfort is that it is not Corbyn in charge, it would be £19.1tr..
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19/03/2021 10:49:30 4 1
bbc
Another One

Please focus on the real not the imaginary

Corbyn is not in charge nor are a host of other people

It's Boris's Tories that put or their acts and no one else
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19/03/2021 10:44:38 13 13
bbc
We could have single handedly ended world hunger for less than what we've borrowed in the last year (around £250bn), and this would have saved many more lives of all ages globally than just focusing on Covid.
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19/03/2021 10:50:03 5 6
bbc
I don't see how any government of this country, whether Labour or Conservative, could have ignored Covid and avoided spending all that money. It was socially and politically impossible. A fantasy comment.
310
19/03/2021 10:51:27 0 0
bbc
"e could have single handedly ended world hunger for less than what we've borrowed in the last year"

No you couldn't. Bunging money at 3rd world nations in the vain hope that they'll somehow use it to end hunger, is like bunging even more money at the NHS.

Pointless.
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MVP
19/03/2021 10:44:58 14 8
bbc
We must not forget that this not not the government being generous here.

This is our money they are spending and the that our our children and grandchildren.
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19/03/2021 11:12:51 2 8
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It is not 'our money' as it is the rich who actually pay most of our taxes
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joe
19/03/2021 10:45:01 226 99
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Ress Mogg the famous quote ''50 years of pain'' ( As he moved assets to Dublin)

And that was just Brexit. Add Covid on top. Get the abacus out.
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19/03/2021 10:47:16 148 249
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Anti-Conservative complainer. Nothing new to say.
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19/03/2021 11:25:21 5 52
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As usual Joe you misinterpret the quote just the like the rest of the EU apologists do.

Economics is a longterm process ... it has taken 50 years to turn the EEC into the EU with negative interest rates and declining GDP ... it is not the roaring economic success promised when the UK joined.

Equally it will take decades for Brexit to alter the impact of EU policy in the UK.
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19/03/2021 11:27:05 31 2
bbc
I love that you referred to an abacus as presumably UK won't be able to afford the relevant IT systems...
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19/03/2021 10:59:01 3 21
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Don't tell obvious lies Jo. He didn't move his assets to Dublin.
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19/03/2021 12:16:40 0 8
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Look of the bright side Joe, you don't have to cringe at being in the EU when they spread false news over vaccines, false news that will cost lives across the globe.
19/03/2021 13:11:11 6 0
bbc
I think JRM’s most famous quote is calling Welsh a ‘foreign’ language!
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19/03/2021 10:45:02 8 11
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Is this the best Journalism you can do from the 22000 journalist you employ BBC....its obvious and no surprise
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19/03/2021 10:49:30 1 4
bbc
I would use the word 'journalist' very loosely when it comes to the BBC
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19/03/2021 10:56:04 1 1
bbc
How should they have reported this differently.. ??
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19/03/2021 10:40:03 6 14
bbc
Rishi Sunak will go down in history as the most reckless chancellor of all time, and what is amazing is he’s not labour!!!!
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Kaa
19/03/2021 10:45:11 5 4
bbc
No, but you can bet that this will all be Labours fault once the election comes around.
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19/03/2021 10:45:13 10 13
bbc
1 year on and still the BBC run the same predictable 'news' stories. In case no one noticed this is the first February during the pandemic. Good to see journalistic standards are being maintained! How is this story any different to the last twelve months?
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19/03/2021 10:55:35 7 3
bbc
It's a report on February's finances...

You suggesting it should be suppressed because you knew what the exact figures would be beforehand ?
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19/03/2021 10:56:01 2 3
bbc
Because, if you have noticed, it gives the BBC the opportunity to further their agenda of baiting the Government to raise Income Tax so they can then have headlines about that too.
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19/03/2021 10:41:28 14 14
bbc
Our lockdowns have saved an estimated 50,000 lives. Given an average age of death from covid at 80, losing 10 years of life, we've saved 500,000 years of human life with lockdowns. For any other illness, the NHS assign £30,000 per year of life saved, so they'd spend £15billion to have this much impact. We seem to have valued the life of a Covid victim much, much higher than for any other illness.
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19/03/2021 10:45:34 11 9
bbc
Given a starting position of 600,000 direct deaths, rising to over 2 million if hospitals are overwhelmed, you've massively underestimated the number of lives saved. The cost of not locking down is far, far, higher than the cost of lockdown so far.
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19/03/2021 10:52:49 4 1
bbc
you should probably read this, and the articles referenced: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/06/how-much-did-the-covid-19-lockdown-really-cost-the-uk. Ferguson's model estimated 80,000 for Sweden without a lockdown and they've so far had 13,000, so we need to adjust for that. One study estimated our first lockdown saved 20,000 lives.
19/03/2021 16:10:56 2 0
bbc
Lock-downs hardly made any difference to the overall results.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
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Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:42:04 9 21
bbc
Stewart is Tory Lite. Him and Starmer should start a new party.
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19/03/2021 11:00:08 24 4
bbc
Stewart has led one of the most decent lives of any politician...

But you appear to prefer the credentials of the current incompetent.
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19/03/2021 11:26:55 1 1
bbc
Tory Proper being The Reform Party, I presume?

I love a bit of right with vote splitting.
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xlr
19/03/2021 12:21:34 1 1
bbc
Boris is Tory Lite, more like.

He's got the backstabbing, lying and exploiting the vulnerable part. He just doesn't seem to know how to run an economy - not even the subset the Tories keep fenced off for the rich.
19/03/2021 14:35:57 0 0
bbc
Probably the most sensible thing I've seen on here for some time.
You are a fascist. And highly unlikeable. Removed
I TOLD YOU BREXIT WAS A BAD IDEA.

But no one listened to me.
Removed
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19/03/2021 10:48:25 8 9
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And how did Brexit cause COVID?
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19/03/2021 10:51:06 5 6
bbc
Actually Brexit is our only long term salvation. If we can grow our economy without the protectionist constraints of the EU we have a much better chance of getting back on our feet without having to inflate our way out of the problem.
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19/03/2021 10:52:21 0 0
bbc
Nearly half of all those who voted DID only the goofs did not
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19/03/2021 10:42:39 6 11
bbc
If only Johnson had shut borders 13 months ago & locked down in time like other countries did.

Instead the clown was shaking hands & being Superman
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19/03/2021 10:48:37 2 4
bbc
These somments are so innacurate and dull. we shut down in our pandamic long before others did; Italy was losing 200 people a day before they shutdown; we shut down much sooner than that.
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19/03/2021 10:52:20 0 1
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Like those other countries that are now in a third wave and introducing new lockdowns then?
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rob
19/03/2021 10:50:43 0 0
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we went into lockdown 23rd march same day as germany all the statistics you need are on worldometers
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19/03/2021 10:35:41 11 20
bbc
Reckless, carefree borrowing.
Deepest pandemic G7 economic recession.
Hugely abused furlough scheme.
Young healthy people's lives ruined to protect the most aged and unhealthy.
Home secretary allowing mass demonstrations to take place during first lockdown but telling police to arrest people for sitting on a park bench with a friend.
This really is a very strange "Conservative" government.
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19/03/2021 10:42:47 3 5
bbc
When you finish university you might understand politics and economics a bit better.
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19/03/2021 11:08:15 1 1
bbc
Wow!! ................ :-)
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19/03/2021 10:39:24 6 5
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and your answers are.... exactly.
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19/03/2021 10:43:11 3 4
bbc
The lefties never have answers. Not sensible ones anyway.
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19/03/2021 10:45:47 14 13
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I think other countries will be borrowing too.

The key is our attitude going forward.

The UK needs to get its debt down.

The UK needs to get its trade deficit down.

We need to start inventing things the world wants again.

Fortunately the UK has the best track record in the world at doing this.

We need to create the next Apple, Amazon and Google.

Innovation and technology is the way forward
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cb
19/03/2021 10:47:57 15 16
bbc
We have the best track record in the world. We need to create more Apple, Amazons and Googles.
You’re hilarious.
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19/03/2021 11:03:53 4 2
bbc
So why did the government sell jewels in the crown such as ARM
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19/03/2021 11:11:17 2 1
bbc
We also need to make, deliver and market the goods and services that we invent, and prevent British companies being taken over by foreign companies so that the profits from innovation and technology are retained for our benefit
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19/03/2021 12:21:34 0 0
bbc
With Minford then - and if the UK doesn't well it doesn't deserve to flourish
50
19/03/2021 10:46:07 5 7
bbc
What did the Tory's say, Oh Yes! No magic Money Tree!!! Well Rishi Sunak thinks has found it however he's spent it 40 times over!!! Never mind he always looks pleased with himself.
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19/03/2021 10:42:00 16 10
bbc
Look at history we had to borrow a fortune to fight WW2 and that was not finally repaid until 2006.
This pandemic is little different , it needs to be beaten and this will cost, a cost which will be repaid over the next 40 years or so.
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19/03/2021 10:46:11 8 10
bbc
Unfortunately, it isn't as black and white as that and there are various levels of beating the virus, from eradicating completely to letting it rip. Some might argue we have been too close to trying to eradicate completely, hence the high cost.
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19/03/2021 11:29:39 0 0
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some might argue that, but people more capable of rational thought would realise that we have been too close to letting it rip, leading to more sick, more demand on the health system, longer lockdowns.
But it seems it was necessary to let the virus close to getting out of control to convince the general population action was necessary.
Pointing at NZ and AUS 'overeacting to 5 cases'
19/03/2021 15:30:39 0 0
bbc
'We'? What have we done different (except for our vaccine project) than the EU?
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19/03/2021 10:46:22 9 14
bbc
Think this is bad - imagine if Corbyn had been in charge...
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SJ
19/03/2021 10:50:14 1 1
bbc
And that's Deficitwang !
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19/03/2021 10:51:45 2 1
bbc
Excuse wearing thin. Corbyn was never in charge. The Nasty Party have been for the last 11 years. What progress can they show? None or backwards
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19/03/2021 10:52:41 2 1
bbc
Yes imagine... The death toll would have been lower because he would have prioritised people and borrowing would be lower because he wouldn't have given billions to his mates. How's that for you?
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19/03/2021 10:50:58 1 0
bbc
They would have had to do the same things as this government and you'd have been screaming. Oh and by the way it's MISTER CORBYN to any "nice guy" I hope this is clear
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19/03/2021 10:46:29 7 10
bbc
The Tory Magic Money Tree

Available to you if you are a Tory voter. Fill your boots pensioners and members of the Chumocracy
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19/03/2021 10:43:39 5 7
bbc
The response to COVID really has ripped up the Tory orthodoxy of the last 10 years - austerity was never a necessity but a political choice. With a fiat currency government debt is practically meaningless.
No surprises, however, when it will be the poorest who feel the effects of COVID for years to come. Will the Tories continue to blame labour for a sub-prime mortgage collapse in the 2000s?
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19/03/2021 10:46:34 3 1
bbc
oh dear. 'debt is meaningless'. is this Dianne abbot speaking? we pay interest on the debt, currently a higher interest bill than the entire education budget. and given some peoples understanding of debt...that education budget needs all the help it can get...
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19/03/2021 10:46:39 6 11
bbc
And did 'The Tories' borrow this money to waste on Marxist vanity projects (like free broadband for all and renationalising everything) or to pay 80% of your wages during a world wide pandemic?
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19/03/2021 10:50:37 0 1
bbc
Everything I don't like is Marxist syndrome
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Kaa
19/03/2021 10:51:18 1 1
bbc
A large chunk of it went on our "world class" track and trace system, which has really proved to be a rousing success.
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19/03/2021 10:49:18 0 0
bbc
Bogus comparison mate A government of ANY hue would have had to borrow record amounts due to a pandemic. If a Labour chancellor had borrowed as much as Mr. Sunak you'd have howled your little heart out. Have a good day in Tory party HQ.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
bbc
Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:46:46 13 18
bbc
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I imagine I'd be in a much better position personally if I could make decisions retrospectively.
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19/03/2021 10:53:24 25 4
bbc
Is it hindsight or a complete lack of foresight. Remember Stewart worked on the Ebola outbreak in africa... he knew what he was talking about and was completely right,but was ignored by the tories as he was a challenge to their leader
19/03/2021 15:56:30 0 0
bbc
Isn't it funny how that is exactly the opposite view the Tories were pushing after the financial crash in 2008, despite the fact that the Tories had been pushing for less regulation not more before the crash...
Nope after the crash it was all 'blame Labour' no 'hindsight' considered at all...
19/03/2021 16:51:14 0 0
bbc
I doubt it.
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SJ
19/03/2021 10:47:14 47 25
bbc
Before the pandemic, Conservatives had planned for higher borrowing than Labpur in their manifestos, according to the IFS. But no doubt we will get endless "it would have been worse under Labour" comments in this HYS.

Forgive me if I refuse to live by "post truth" rules.
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19/03/2021 11:02:29 10 5
bbc
It would of course depend what it was spent on.
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19/03/2021 12:06:17 2 5
bbc
Forgive me if I refuse to accept that a Corbyn government would have spent less money than Conservative one, or managed the crisis better.
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19/03/2021 12:37:04 2 3
bbc
Could you please provide a link for that made up claim?

I'm looking at a chart produced by the IFS entitled "Labour would push total UK spending to level never previously sustained in UK"
They have another slide showing expected public sector net debt (EXCLUDING labour plans to nationalise electric, gas, water, rail) which has Labour massively increasing debt while under the Tories it levels off
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joe
19/03/2021 10:45:01 226 99
bbc
Ress Mogg the famous quote ''50 years of pain'' ( As he moved assets to Dublin)

And that was just Brexit. Add Covid on top. Get the abacus out.
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19/03/2021 10:47:16 148 249
bbc
Anti-Conservative complainer. Nothing new to say.
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19/03/2021 10:59:54 63 10
bbc
Didn’t deny tho just deflect
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19/03/2021 11:00:17 77 13
bbc
Blind Tory supporter. Incapable of seeing the truth :)
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19/03/2021 11:02:33 55 10
bbc
Just because it's repeating something doesn't make it untrue - does it?
Anti-Brexit rather than anti old-conservative as well, if you could be honest.
The ERG style Conservatives threw out the conservatives who didn't think 50 years before we saw serious benefits was a good idea.
How about a leaver like yourself telling us a benefit of brexit?
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19/03/2021 11:06:37 58 7
bbc
What's the matter, truth hard to swallow.
Keep doffing your cap to yer betters Removed
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19/03/2021 11:28:52 34 3
bbc
problem the number of peole who are anti current bunch of idiots some people laughingly call a 'leadership team' is growing daily but they are not anti-conservative. Understand the difference.
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19/03/2021 10:58:07 47 3
bbc
Tory apologist. Nothing new to say.
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19/03/2021 11:31:02 50 6
bbc
You support the party that wiped 40% of our exports to the EU purely out of political zealotry.
The party that can't fund a pay rise for nurses but has somehow found the necessary money for nuclear weapons and a new media centre in Downing St.
The party led by a Bullingdon club member sacked twice for lying.
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FF
19/03/2021 11:33:17 19 2
bbc
Could you work the Boris shaft any harder?
505
19/03/2021 11:51:06 15 1
bbc
Happy clapper
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Pip
19/03/2021 12:02:03 10 1
bbc
It's not difficult, they're a pretty useless bunch.............?
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19/03/2021 12:08:26 4 0
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I thought you were pro-Conservative - I'll have to find my programme to check who is who again!
682
19/03/2021 12:14:00 11 0
bbc
What have you got to say? Where has the £37 billion gone that Boris borrowed and the hard working tax payers will have to pay back. Are the elite fined or in lockdown. NO
Removed
873
19/03/2021 12:48:09 8 0
bbc
Yup. Coz you let them get away with anything.

Now, can I sell you a second hand boat? One previous owner and only a few holes.
896
19/03/2021 12:35:01 0 7
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Well you are on a left wing communist sympathising website. It attracts them.
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19/03/2021 12:58:26 7 0
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Some years ago I had the dubious 'privilege' of seeing close up the machinations of the Tory party in my home town.

Met many activists from a number of political parties. Some good some bad.

Just my personal impression, but the Tories were overwhelmingly sleazy, treacherous and venal. The more I see of them the less they change. I have never voted for them since.
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19/03/2021 13:00:49 7 0
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Franky you'd have to be a literal psychopath to not be anti-Tory. 120,000 dead. Repeat that to yourself. Over and over and over. That is the human cost of incompetence, carelessness, and right wing ideology.
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19/03/2021 13:04:45 6 0
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As opposed to your highly informative post...
19/03/2021 13:28:29 5 0
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Not necessarily. Many lifelong Tories are disgusted by the current leadership and long for a return to a competent and honest Conservative government
Parasites Removed
19/03/2021 14:02:49 2 2
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Anti-Conservative complainer.

Brexit delusional cultist. Shuffle off.
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20/03/2021 09:21:27 0 0
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At least you admit the Tories are responsible.
20/03/2021 15:49:36 0 0
bbc
I have not seen a Conservative in ages.. They protect way of life , wont build on the Green Space and dont like mass immigration ...Seen one of them lately in the Tory party ?
20/03/2021 20:40:07 0 0
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Exactly, JRM is certainly not my cuppa tea but I defend his right to be in British politics as much as I defend David Lammy. "Joe" above is spreading bitter slander, as JRM had his assets all over the world prior to Brexit, and like like many UK firms/investors has opened a shell office in the EU to facilitate investment after Brexit as has more EU firms have done more in reverse in the UK.
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19/03/2021 10:43:35 1 4
bbc
The Correction here again is ....Policy impact. We all get viruses. There nothing new.
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19/03/2021 10:40:03 6 14
bbc
Rishi Sunak will go down in history as the most reckless chancellor of all time, and what is amazing is he’s not labour!!!!
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19/03/2021 10:43:55 2 3
bbc
I hope you enjoy him being your Prime Minister one day.
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19/03/2021 10:52:10 2 2
bbc
Will he have all his peacock feathers by then?
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19/03/2021 10:41:28 14 14
bbc
Our lockdowns have saved an estimated 50,000 lives. Given an average age of death from covid at 80, losing 10 years of life, we've saved 500,000 years of human life with lockdowns. For any other illness, the NHS assign £30,000 per year of life saved, so they'd spend £15billion to have this much impact. We seem to have valued the life of a Covid victim much, much higher than for any other illness.
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19/03/2021 10:44:13 2 7
bbc
Your estimate is very wrong

Without lockdowns we’d have had 500,000 dead

And more potentially worse mutations
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19/03/2021 10:54:37 2 1
bbc
again, follow the links here for an analysis: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/06/how-much-did-the-covid-19-lockdown-really-cost-the-uk.
Even if all those papers were wrong and the lives saved are ten times higher (unlikely), that's £150bn when we've already spent/lost far more.
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19/03/2021 11:37:54 4 0
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Actually we would have had less harmful mutations. Making it harder for the virus to spread favours the more virulent (more infectious) strains thus increasing the frequency of the virulent strain within the population. Basic Natural Selection.
Thanks BJ for this mess
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19/03/2021 10:44:30 0 3
bbc
No. Thank Covid and the CCP.
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19/03/2021 10:47:25 6 4
bbc
Boris has got out the note Labour laft the Tory's, "All the money has gone" and added for ever and ever!
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19/03/2021 10:35:29 22 16
bbc
Well there is a surprise. Considering this time last year we were all free to go about our normal lives
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19/03/2021 10:47:33 21 7
bbc
I don't think so..19th March 2020 a time when EU countries were closing borders with zero notice, people panic buying fresh bread, toilet rolls, soap, pasta, tinned food etc, shelves of some items were empty. Schools on the 20th were closing. This time last year was far from normal..
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19/03/2021 11:07:20 5 3
bbc
You forget that the borrowing was for February and not March - or was that conveniently overlooked to be able to slag off the Government?
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19/03/2021 11:10:02 0 2
bbc
The article is talking about data for February
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19/03/2021 10:39:54 34 16
bbc
What this last year has shown is there are some things we can’t afford not to spend both money and time managing full and efficient running of essential services, including having full staff numbers.

In this case not spending these things on the NHS over several years has led to spending an extra double its annual budget in a year, shutting down the economy so it's 'protected'.
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19/03/2021 10:47:49 70 38
bbc
The NHS is an unsustainable luxury that throws money away. It needs root and branch reform to take it back to its original purpose of treating the sick from this country that pay taxes.
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19/03/2021 10:56:32 3 18
bbc
People who can afford to should be made to pay for NHS treatment - simples, doesn't require a phd to think this up....
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19/03/2021 11:01:17 12 4
bbc
Healthcare is only a luxury for those (99%) of the population that can afford private.

Only elitests want nhs gone
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19/03/2021 11:04:15 6 1
bbc
good ol lapthorn, yes, US style medicine so cheap so available for all
Or French medicien - pay 2% more GDP for a better result...
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19/03/2021 11:14:41 6 3
bbc
Too many chiefs and no enough indians.
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19/03/2021 11:27:03 7 2
bbc
Are you Dominic Cummings?
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19/03/2021 11:35:37 5 4
bbc
Complete rubbish.
753
19/03/2021 12:24:56 2 0
bbc
Toby Young is that you? Sounds like the opinion of an eugenics fan.
19/03/2021 14:45:52 1 0
bbc
Are you suggesting that the NHS shouldn't treat people who don't pay taxes?

I guess excluding poor people and pensioners would get the waiting lists down. But it certainly wasn't the original purpose of the NHS.
20/03/2021 09:29:50 1 0
bbc
So children, tax dodgers etc DON’T get health care.
Cognitive skills not your strength I suggest.
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19/03/2021 10:45:47 14 13
bbc
I think other countries will be borrowing too.

The key is our attitude going forward.

The UK needs to get its debt down.

The UK needs to get its trade deficit down.

We need to start inventing things the world wants again.

Fortunately the UK has the best track record in the world at doing this.

We need to create the next Apple, Amazon and Google.

Innovation and technology is the way forward
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cb
19/03/2021 10:47:57 15 16
bbc
We have the best track record in the world. We need to create more Apple, Amazons and Googles.
You’re hilarious.
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19/03/2021 10:49:40 4 6
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Search "British inventions".

You're welcome.
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19/03/2021 11:11:09 1 1
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You forget that a lot of our tech companies have been bought up by American techs because they realise that we are actually good at it as well
19/03/2021 16:09:15 1 0
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Odd then that the markets seem to think Brexit Britain is a better bet than the Eurozone .
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19/03/2021 10:35:29 22 16
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Well there is a surprise. Considering this time last year we were all free to go about our normal lives
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19/03/2021 10:48:02 3 4
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Gold cup day. Didn't a certain Mr Johnson present the trophy last year.
I TOLD YOU BREXIT WAS A BAD IDEA.

But no one listened to me.
Removed
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19/03/2021 10:48:25 8 9
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And how did Brexit cause COVID?
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19/03/2021 10:51:34 0 0
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COVID is being used as a cover for the Brexit cost.

When did you hear Rishi mention Brexit in the budget, despite it being 80bn of the 300bn?
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19/03/2021 12:23:59 0 0
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Plastic Earth - read the comment, he didn't. Put the net out, watch the brexiteer fall in
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19/03/2021 10:48:32 0 2
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Sooner we can open the better, how France can have the same lockdown measures as us as they enter the third wave either they have got it wrong or we have in comparison
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19/03/2021 10:37:48 273 95
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Scrap HS2 save 150 billion!
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19/03/2021 10:48:33 230 112
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Bojo would just spend the money on some other vanity project, like extra nuclear warheads or a feasibility study into a bridge to America.
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19/03/2021 11:08:14 14 9
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Didn't he want to build a bridge to Northern Ireland?
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19/03/2021 11:09:32 31 18
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Nuclear weapons that wont be used because you can't fight terrorism with nuclear weapons. Modern day wars will be cyber. But Tory lemmings can't be told.
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19/03/2021 11:13:40 10 10
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You are too late, contracts are let, land is bought & construction is well underway. Stopping it now would only save a fraction. Perhaps delete the Northern sections but that would a political disaster.
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19/03/2021 11:16:37 27 14
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How many more times does it have to be explained that HS2 isn't a Tory vanity project? It comes straight from Gordon Brown's Labour administration.
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19/03/2021 11:05:12 1 4
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All of which would create jobs to feed families but yes he needs a vanity project when he's already PM of Britain, it's not like that's one of the most coveted positions in the world. How are you in the vanity department Strawcat? High flyer I'd imagine?
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19/03/2021 11:59:24 1 2
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Nuclear warheads are not a vanity project, but part of our essential defences.
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19/03/2021 12:14:42 3 3
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Fortunately he won't be forced to spend it on bailing out the Eurozone.
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19/03/2021 10:42:39 6 11
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If only Johnson had shut borders 13 months ago & locked down in time like other countries did.

Instead the clown was shaking hands & being Superman
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19/03/2021 10:48:37 2 4
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These somments are so innacurate and dull. we shut down in our pandamic long before others did; Italy was losing 200 people a day before they shutdown; we shut down much sooner than that.
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19/03/2021 10:53:10 0 0
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Our Government was warned by a Italy in late Feb 2020.

What did Superman Johnson do?

Tally Ho off to Cheltenham 250,000 super spreaders

Borders were not shut until December.

Plane loads flying in from Italy, Spain, USA, Brazil etc etc

No wonder the UK has its own nasty covid variant

All down to Johnson & Cummings
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19/03/2021 10:48:58 5 5
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And despite record borrowing, with hundreds of thousands not being able to work normally, the selfish who have been in work all along, experience little fiscal impact. Unions are now all lining up protesting about pay increase levels. This degree of selfishness is damning. What ever became of " we are all in this together" Public sector pay requires tax funding. There is no money now, only debt
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19/03/2021 11:33:33 1 0
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But we never "all in this together" , the friends of the tories did well, but everyone else suffered.
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19/03/2021 10:49:16 2 3
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No faeces Sherlock, what a non story!
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19/03/2021 10:49:18 23 11
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Fear not - the Brexit dividend will save us.
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19/03/2021 10:51:37 29 10
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Look. Its heading towards us on the back of a Unicorn floating majestically over sunlit uplands
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19/03/2021 10:51:53 6 11
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Get over Brexit you snowflake.
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19/03/2021 10:53:45 9 5
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Are you the boy who keeps going back to the lit firework?
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19/03/2021 11:34:51 2 0
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Ha ha your a funny guy!
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19/03/2021 12:44:38 0 2
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Has saved a lot already, - vaccine project so successful it has become an obsession with the EU who fail to protect their citizens so intent are they on harming ours by vaccine wars.
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19/03/2021 10:39:01 133 54
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Just get through it and move on. We aren't the only Country borrowing
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19/03/2021 10:49:29 91 126
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Just the worst.
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19/03/2021 10:54:19 23 8
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Not by a long shot, have you seen Japan's debt ?
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19/03/2021 10:59:53 11 8
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Plain wrong
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19/03/2021 12:00:03 9 6
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If you feel that way, move somewhere else.
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19/03/2021 12:20:01 7 6
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Usual lies, we are not the worst at anything, the EU always has a number who are worse than us at everything, in the case of Vaccinations ALL of them are worse than us ;-)
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19/03/2021 12:30:12 2 2
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This sharp insight is based on what?
19/03/2021 15:06:29 0 1
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We're a long way from that.
20/03/2021 12:17:14 0 0
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and much of it would have been avoided by a competent government
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19/03/2021 10:45:02 8 11
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Is this the best Journalism you can do from the 22000 journalist you employ BBC....its obvious and no surprise
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19/03/2021 10:49:30 1 4
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I would use the word 'journalist' very loosely when it comes to the BBC
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19/03/2021 10:44:34 3 12
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So they borrowed £19.1bn in a month! That's almost £300 for every man, woman and child in the UK.

Gordon Brown's "borrow now pay later" economic "miracle" did untold damage but that should have been largely sorted with years of austerity. What on earth are they spending it on? Not me or my family for sure.

The only crumb of comfort is that it is not Corbyn in charge, it would be £19.1tr..
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19/03/2021 10:49:30 4 1
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Another One

Please focus on the real not the imaginary

Corbyn is not in charge nor are a host of other people

It's Boris's Tories that put or their acts and no one else
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19/03/2021 10:47:57 15 16
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We have the best track record in the world. We need to create more Apple, Amazons and Googles.
You’re hilarious.
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19/03/2021 10:49:40 4 6
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Search "British inventions".

You're welcome.
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cb
19/03/2021 10:52:15 7 4
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Did you? Is that where you came up with Apple, google and amazon?
Where you using the British version of Google by any chance?
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19/03/2021 10:56:09 2 0
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Ignore the overseas posters insults. They would be better looking at their own economies. Have you seen the state of the EU? I reckon the Euro is about finished, and without it, there is no point in the EU any more.
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19/03/2021 10:39:01 133 54
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Just get through it and move on. We aren't the only Country borrowing
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19/03/2021 10:49:44 12 6
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Every small business is now saddled with debt, more collateral damage from lockdowns. The banks are the only winners.
19/03/2021 14:35:37 0 0
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Because they have lots of bad loans. How is that a benefit to them?
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19/03/2021 10:49:48 2 5
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As one of the Economists said on the BBC news today, this was planned for, designed into the budget, and was no surprise to anybody. Bit of a dud really.
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19/03/2021 12:22:16 1 0
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and the BBC haters would have piled in complaining the BBc didn't mention it
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19/03/2021 10:49:54 11 6
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Some COVID spending is necessary, but the waste on Track and Trace and Chumocracy contracts for PPE are a national disgrace

Neither is it time for splashing out on nukes, HS2, and other vanity projects. You'd think Johnson would feel he has left enough of a legacy through the 6 or more children he has knocking around out there

Time to focus the spending on workers and business crushed by Brexit
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19/03/2021 10:53:25 3 6
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you spend on workers by spending on work not people..Cancel HS2 - 350,000 more unempolyed
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19/03/2021 12:55:06 0 0
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LOL if ignorance were bliss, you'd as happy as a pig in s*** !
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19/03/2021 10:44:38 13 13
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We could have single handedly ended world hunger for less than what we've borrowed in the last year (around £250bn), and this would have saved many more lives of all ages globally than just focusing on Covid.
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19/03/2021 10:50:03 5 6
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I don't see how any government of this country, whether Labour or Conservative, could have ignored Covid and avoided spending all that money. It was socially and politically impossible. A fantasy comment.
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Vid
19/03/2021 10:50:13 2 5
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Hardly a surprise or even a news story.
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19/03/2021 10:53:16 0 2
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Probably could care less.
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19/03/2021 10:46:22 9 14
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Think this is bad - imagine if Corbyn had been in charge...
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SJ
19/03/2021 10:50:14 1 1
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And that's Deficitwang !
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19/03/2021 10:39:01 133 54
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Just get through it and move on. We aren't the only Country borrowing
Funny how we all use comparisons with other other countries when it suits our agenda, and dismiss them as incomparable when it doesn't.
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19/03/2021 10:37:05 116 64
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Did anyone recently hear the interview by rory Stewart before the pandemic where he stressed the need to work from home,social distancing etc while boris was advocating herd immunity.

Imagine what could have been if he took over instead, we might not have lost so many people or be in such a bad state financially
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19/03/2021 10:50:31 4 13
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Was that before or after he called three black men "gangsters"?
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19/03/2021 10:46:39 6 11
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And did 'The Tories' borrow this money to waste on Marxist vanity projects (like free broadband for all and renationalising everything) or to pay 80% of your wages during a world wide pandemic?
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19/03/2021 10:50:37 0 1
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Everything I don't like is Marxist syndrome
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19/03/2021 10:51:00 16 9
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The Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, said: "Coronavirus has caused one of the largest economic shocks this country has ever faced."

Incorrect:
The Governement's handling of coronavirus and spaffing away of billions of pounds has caused one of the largest economic shocks this country has ever faced.
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19/03/2021 10:53:32 13 4
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Alongside the disaster of Brexit ... spot on
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19/03/2021 10:51:03 7 3
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Let’s see what awful policies and charges we are going to have to face over the next 10 years, I dread to think...
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19/03/2021 10:52:21 1 5
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is that why you don't?
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19/03/2021 10:55:01 0 0
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Yers had the money, yers gotta pay it back. FACT
I TOLD YOU BREXIT WAS A BAD IDEA.

But no one listened to me.
Removed
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19/03/2021 10:51:06 5 6
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Actually Brexit is our only long term salvation. If we can grow our economy without the protectionist constraints of the EU we have a much better chance of getting back on our feet without having to inflate our way out of the problem.
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19/03/2021 11:02:39 2 1
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You prey that Brexit is our only long term salvation...

But all the advise suggests it will be otherwise.
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19/03/2021 10:51:10 7 4
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This is on top of all the massive borrowing of the previous four Conservative administrations (whilst claiming austerity for the masses), what it shows is the Conservatives cannot be trusted with the economy. Additionally, consider all the dodgy contracts and efforts to hide the spending. And they are still have another 3 1/2 years. Be afraid, be very afraid!
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19/03/2021 10:53:02 3 4
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Just sleep with the light on, you'll be OK
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19/03/2021 10:46:39 6 11
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And did 'The Tories' borrow this money to waste on Marxist vanity projects (like free broadband for all and renationalising everything) or to pay 80% of your wages during a world wide pandemic?
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Kaa
19/03/2021 10:51:18 1 1
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A large chunk of it went on our "world class" track and trace system, which has really proved to be a rousing success.
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19/03/2021 10:55:35 1 2
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It has indeed, after initial teethiing troubles

It found that rogue South Africa case, didn't it!
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19/03/2021 10:43:39 5 7
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The response to COVID really has ripped up the Tory orthodoxy of the last 10 years - austerity was never a necessity but a political choice. With a fiat currency government debt is practically meaningless.
No surprises, however, when it will be the poorest who feel the effects of COVID for years to come. Will the Tories continue to blame labour for a sub-prime mortgage collapse in the 2000s?
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19/03/2021 10:51:28 0 1
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Will Labour have any alternative to offer? All they do is demand even more spending.
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19/03/2021 10:39:01 133 54
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Just get through it and move on. We aren't the only Country borrowing
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19/03/2021 10:51:29 17 12
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Go to beach, dig hole, insert head.
19/03/2021 13:37:26 1 0
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Yeah you're right. We should all dwell on it and get stressed over something out of our control ??
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19/03/2021 10:51:29 1 3
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"Governments... can't go bankrupt"... that's right, like Argentina, Mexico, Greece etc. Brilliant analysis.
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19/03/2021 10:55:22 4 1
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I just checked..they're all still there?
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19/03/2021 10:49:18 23 11
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Fear not - the Brexit dividend will save us.
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19/03/2021 10:51:37 29 10
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Look. Its heading towards us on the back of a Unicorn floating majestically over sunlit uplands
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19/03/2021 11:09:47 1 4
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Yeah - one that has left its sh*t behind on the other side of the Channel!
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19/03/2021 12:45:01 0 2
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Had your vaccination yet?
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19/03/2021 10:46:22 9 14
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Think this is bad - imagine if Corbyn had been in charge...
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19/03/2021 10:51:45 2 1
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Excuse wearing thin. Corbyn was never in charge. The Nasty Party have been for the last 11 years. What progress can they show? None or backwards
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19/03/2021 10:51:50 5 4
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High death rate, high social cost, high economic cost. Johnson won’t care though. Don’t suppose his voters will care either.
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19/03/2021 10:49:18 23 11
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Fear not - the Brexit dividend will save us.
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19/03/2021 10:51:53 6 11
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Get over Brexit you snowflake.
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19/03/2021 11:47:13 3 0
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I wish I was generation snowflake, I would be 15 years younger. But, to address your well thought out response, I am over Brexit - just waiting for the promised economic benefits and dividends, as this would no doubt help balance the public purse during these difficult times. Do you not agree, or are you doubtful of this promised outcome?
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19/03/2021 10:42:58 2 11
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Who cares. The people who are going to have to pay all this back haven't even been born yet.
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19/03/2021 10:52:09 2 1
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I and lots of other people care.