AstraZeneca: UK and EU clot reviews confirm safety of vaccine
18/03/2021 | news | health | 2,620
Regulators give reassurance and advice on rare blood clot symptoms, such as headache lasting days.
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
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18/03/2021 16:03:22 51 10
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absolutely, they sacrifice their own people just to make the point
They just cant let it go can they
Now infection rates are out of control and they are all riddled with covid
Close the borders now
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18/03/2021 16:07:46 12 1
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The benefits of the AZ vaccine far outweigh the dangers. It is irresponsible that some European governments are stopping this vaccine, many more will die because of their action. Shame on Merkel, Macron & Co.
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18/03/2021 16:08:41 17 2
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Yes, they really are quite pathetic. I voted to stay but this nonsense has underlined just how far apart we are from our "friends" in Europe.

Luigi.
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18/03/2021 16:13:30 8 14
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 16:14:50 6 0
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Interestingly, the pro-EU British, are defending the EU when those that remain members across Europe are livid.
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18/03/2021 16:19:07 5 7
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EU just approved it’s use.

Remains to be seen if the individual sovereign nations in the EU follow that guidance or go their own way, which they can do of course.

Meanwhile over on the Daily Mail website “INDIAN VACCINE FIASCO” is the headline.

Poor old Leavers.
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18/03/2021 16:21:22 2 0
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Spot on. It's just unfortunate that lots of vaccines have been wasted by their ideocy. Send them here, we'll have 'em.
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18/03/2021 16:28:39 0 0
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Surely this is being driven by both media and public expectations that there should be zero risk in any thing we do. The politicians are reacting to this.
Meantime I'm sure the folk who will needlessly die of Covid due to lack of vaccination over the next few weeks will be relieved to know that concern for their safety was the deciding factor!
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18/03/2021 16:38:53 2 0
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Last time I looked, Thailand and the Republic of Congo aren't in the EU but they suspended use of AZ pending the review. The only people who seek to blame the EU aren't medics.
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18/03/2021 16:01:12 122 3
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Good to hear. Hopefully the regulators of other countries will come to the same conclusion.
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18/03/2021 16:22:03 21 21
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Regulators outside the EU.
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18/03/2021 16:01:29 168 9
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Well done and good news for those that were anxious ... the risk was too small not to get vaccinated
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18/03/2021 17:37:24 14 117
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Cannot understand why they are encouraging people who have acquired natural immunity to take this vaccine though. This is obviously unnecessary.
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18/03/2021 16:02:05 119 10
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The five UK cases of cerebral sinus vein thrombosis (CSVT), among 11 million people who have received the vaccine, occurred in men aged between 19 and 59. One of the cases was fatal.

Good news and one in the eye for the anti-vaxxers
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18/03/2021 16:43:55 98 20
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Think a bit harder. Why would a 19 year old man get the vaccine??

That hints at terrible underlying health condition.
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18/03/2021 20:32:04 3 0
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Just try to remember you are talking about a very young man who may have been perfectly healthy and he took the jab, as advised, and then died. Maybe nothing to do with the jab but he’s still dead.
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18/03/2021 16:02:12 823 37
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The benefits far outweigh the risk, even if there is a risk. The numbers of reported clots are miniscule. The risk of being killed while driving to the vaccine centre is probably many times higher.
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18/03/2021 16:13:12 632 112
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EU is going to kick itself when the UK comes out of lockdown about a year earlier because we haven;t been playing politics.
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18/03/2021 16:21:25 68 4
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Also the vaccines are being given first to people more at risk - so whilst the incidents are higher than the entire population would get, are they higher than the population getting the vaccine would have had normally? Probably not, but someone will have to do a full study. Yes, it's far better to get the vaccine, either of them (both have similar clotting numbers).
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18/03/2021 16:47:27 35 2
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That's why I walked to get mine.
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18/03/2021 16:53:32 5 12
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Both are outweighed by the risk of catching the virus while there
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18/03/2021 16:55:16 7 16
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For most people the chances of dying from Covid are probably not far off their chances of being killed while driving to the vaccine centre

I'm considered "high risk" & a priority for the vaccine yet the NHS's own risk calculator gives me a mortality risk of less that 1%. The people who are really at high risk, the elderly, suffer less vaccine side effects so great, let's all move on.
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18/03/2021 17:05:31 13 25
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Bit like the miniscule risk of actually being killed "BY" the virus do you mean ???
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18/03/2021 17:17:26 5 35
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The clots are the ones taking the jab.
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18/03/2021 17:29:35 2 4
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Same as the benefits of not shutting down society outweighed the costs of shutting down but that didn’t stop them.
18/03/2021 17:57:24 1 9
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You've just destroyed your own ideology by saying youre more likely to die on the way to vaccine centre, the survival rate is 98.7% and your willing to take a vaccine which you don't know the risks lol
nic
18/03/2021 17:57:06 1 3
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Hope you’d don’t regret that
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18/03/2021 16:02:20 3 37
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... says the UK
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18/03/2021 16:04:28 9 5
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"There is no evidence the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine causes blood clots, the UK's medicines regulator says after a "thorough and careful review"." I mean, it says it all doesn't it
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18/03/2021 16:02:23 83 13
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Funny that, almost as if blood clots aren’t caused by political jealousy
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18/03/2021 16:48:06 34 11
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Highly prevalent north of Berwick on Tweed at the moment
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18/03/2021 16:02:35 586 71
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The only "clots" are in Brussels!
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18/03/2021 16:10:51 491 25
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Macron in particular is doing particular damage to his own folk in the vain attempt to try and save his political position. Sad man
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18/03/2021 16:14:05 21 2
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Don’t forget the clots of media
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18/03/2021 16:27:36 7 27
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Except the EU approves it, the sovereign states are the ones stopping it.

But I guess facts are not your thing...
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18/03/2021 16:41:48 15 3
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Lol nicely put! Perhaps if the EU don't want the AZ vaccines they can send them all here rather than storing them in their fridged.....oh hang on. They've blocked all exports of the vaccines....
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18/03/2021 16:44:10 17 3
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Belgium (Capital, Brussels) were quite resolute in thier intention to continue administering the AZ vaccine.
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18/03/2021 16:48:08 8 44
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The clots of Brussels have killed fewer of their citizens than the clots in Downing Street, that's what matters.
18/03/2021 18:11:35 1 0
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Now that is a very funny joke ??
18/03/2021 18:40:44 0 0
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Brilliant!
18/03/2021 19:30:23 0 1
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Rubbish. Like I have posted my healthy mother got a clot 2.5 weeks after receiving this so called 'wonderful' vaccine. I don't want it near me thanks
18/03/2021 23:24:24 0 0
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this has nothing to do with brussels....
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18/03/2021 16:02:41 630 39
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This simply confirms what any rational person knows already. It's a shame politics is taking precedent over safety.
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18/03/2021 16:04:45 334 25
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Not the first time and certainly won't be the last. Just proves these so called politicians don't give a monkeys about peoples lives.
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18/03/2021 16:33:44 9 23
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Could you share with me the Norwegian political advantage being gained here?
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18/03/2021 16:40:36 28 5
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The trouble with politics is the politicians. Personally I believe no person should serve as MP for more than 2 or 3 elections. We need people in positions that know what they are doing. Health Secretary? How about a Nurse. Education? Teacher. Home Secretary? Police. That would be a refreshing change wouldn't it
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18/03/2021 16:49:47 18 3
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The clots would appear mostly to be in the various medicines agencies of the countries that have stopped the use of AZ.

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18/03/2021 16:56:39 12 3
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How many people will die needlessly because of this. Heads have got to roll but they’ll close ranks and nothing will happen.
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Tom
18/03/2021 17:06:26 14 2
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I agree. The consequences of these political games may also go far beyond a few wasted days. We don't yet know how many people will now refuse the vaccine because of the scaremongering.
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18/03/2021 17:23:38 2 14
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More criminal actions by our Government with another thing we dont actually need.
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18/03/2021 17:47:07 5 11
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Rubbish It seems UK have been doing similar research to the EU and amongst other things, have told people to get medical advice if headaches persist for four days. That info not available before. Anti EU people turning it into politics
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18/03/2021 17:48:50 3 5
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I don't think some of the reaction was unjustified. It happened in a cluster. That's unusual. You would want to investigate that. Bad batches can happen.

For that reason countries that merely stopped certain batches, Italy as one example, made a perfectly acceptable response.

The anti-EU commenters and media however will throw words like BANNED around, however, to make it sound 10x worse.
18/03/2021 17:59:38 1 10
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Any rational person would stay well clear of the vaccine
nic
18/03/2021 17:57:26 0 1
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Yep
18/03/2021 19:26:45 1 5
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There were no politics involved in the decisions of the countries that decided to pause their roll-outs of that particular vaccine, merely erring on the side of caution based on their own standards. Only people who made it political were those looking desperately for anything at all to attack the EU on, even though it had nothing to do with them.
18/03/2021 20:41:35 0 3
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No, the following confirms what we need to know:

"...the vaccine may be associated with very rare cases of brain clots and clots in multiple blood vessels (known as disseminated intravascular coagulation or DIC - the EMA has received seven reports of this so far)"

That is all I need to know.
These vaccines have not received the test of time.
They said that thalidomide was safe.
18/03/2021 20:55:17 2 0
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Id the EU dont want the vaccines, ill take mine early. Im sure other countries will take the vaccines off their hands.
18/03/2021 20:55:44 0 3
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I don't know which is worse - Tory voters or the apathetic. The government are:

Cancelling TV programs critical of the government.

Rushing through laws to stop protests.

Telling schools and universities what to teach.

Suppressing voting.

If you can't see what's happening in the UK you probably read The Sun, Mail and Express
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18/03/2021 16:03:02 75 5
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I would have been more worried if the research had shown that the vaccine stops blood from clotting.
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18/03/2021 17:45:58 16 2
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No that's aspirin!
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
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18/03/2021 16:03:22 51 10
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absolutely, they sacrifice their own people just to make the point
They just cant let it go can they
Now infection rates are out of control and they are all riddled with covid
Close the borders now
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18/03/2021 16:10:43 8 5
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Close the borders now, correct all travel from the EU to be blocked from entering and holidays to the EU to be boycotted
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18/03/2021 16:03:31 35 13
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The EU effectively backing the UK's Brexit policy regarding which vaccines to buy and when

The undemocratic bad-losers won't like that!
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18/03/2021 17:09:20 4 5
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What a weird twisted view of the facts.
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Jon
18/03/2021 16:03:33 59 33
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Damn! Another blow to EU loving remainers
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:05:24 17 28
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How so?
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18/03/2021 16:09:05 3 9
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You must have had the Az vaccine you are showning serious symptons of Clotting.????
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18/03/2021 16:12:32 12 9
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 16:04:12 4 2
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I wish Hancock would stop saying the vaccine is lumpy...
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18/03/2021 16:22:49 2 0
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It did look a bit like wallpaper paste in the syringe
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18/03/2021 16:04:22 4 34
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Still waiting for the bombshell awakening from these vaccines ??
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:05:01 13 2
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What awakening would that be then?
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18/03/2021 16:09:09 7 0
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It won’t make you more intelligent if that’s what you’re thinking
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18/03/2021 16:15:04 6 1
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The bombshell that there is a direct link between the people who don't take the vaccine and their low IQ ?
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18/03/2021 16:04:24 249 11
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It sounds as if the vaccine is much safer than aspirin or paracetamol.
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 255 9
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Not to mention chocolate, alcohol, butter, pork sausages and sunshine.
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18/03/2021 16:07:12 29 2
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Just had my AZ shot in the last 10 minutes, and grateful and proud to have done so. Thank you NHS, the UK government and British Scientists and Engineers who made it all possible.

Quite emotional really!
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18/03/2021 16:27:30 2 1
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aspirin isnt a great choice for comparison
it is widely used, yet untested in most applications
it's legacy pharma
where the assumptions upon clinical benefits are exactly that

for a novel vaccine that wasnt possible, nor was it desirable
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18/03/2021 16:36:40 6 0
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And many antibiotics and the Pill!
DT
18/03/2021 17:55:45 6 0
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My dad always says if people read the side effects listed on the leaflet in their paracetamol box they would probably never take it again!
18/03/2021 19:06:36 1 4
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You might want to research that a little yes they are generally safe but already up to over 3000 deaths from these vaccines and that’s a conservative estimate as that’s just reported cases
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18/03/2021 16:02:20 3 37
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... says the UK
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18/03/2021 16:04:28 9 5
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"There is no evidence the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine causes blood clots, the UK's medicines regulator says after a "thorough and careful review"." I mean, it says it all doesn't it
18/03/2021 18:29:19 2 0
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You deliberately missed the "and EU medicines regulators" from your quote. I wonder why that was
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18/03/2021 16:02:41 630 39
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This simply confirms what any rational person knows already. It's a shame politics is taking precedent over safety.
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18/03/2021 16:04:45 334 25
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Not the first time and certainly won't be the last. Just proves these so called politicians don't give a monkeys about peoples lives.
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18/03/2021 17:48:32 2 7
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Wh ich politicians. Talking about Johnson and highest death rate in Europe I hope.
18/03/2021 20:55:40 1 0
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Your comment does not make sense. Did you vote for Jeremy Corbyn in the last election?
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18/03/2021 16:04:45 428 47
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Gosh, what a surprise !!!!!!!

EU are playing political games at the expense of people's lives !!!!!!!!!

Makes you wonder what the rest of the world are thinking about how the EU is dealing with this pandemic

Late to the party and saying they deserve to jump the queue !!!!!!
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18/03/2021 16:08:44 135 216
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Norway isn't part of the EU. They are entitled to review and examine their concerns. It's nothing more than that. Certainly not about Brexit. That has happened; move on.
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18/03/2021 16:12:08 40 29
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 16:21:16 14 18
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If it puts off EU citizens and makes more vaccine available for good people all over the world I won’t be upset. People get the politicians they deserve.
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18/03/2021 16:39:19 18 2
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It wasn't an EU decision! The EMA said carry on. Some countries waited a few days for a review - which does show a few more cases than expected. https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-benefits-still-outweigh-risks-despite-possible-link-rare-blood-clots
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18/03/2021 16:44:32 6 3
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I'm not sure it's politics. I think it's fear of being sued by relatives of anyone dying post vaccination from a blood clot. Have they thought about the potential for being sued by relatives of someone dying of covid, because their vaccination was delayed?
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18/03/2021 16:46:38 2 0
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You could have at least included an exclamation mark!!!!!!!!!
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18/03/2021 16:50:21 5 1
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Stuck4a comment that isn't biased and bigoted
Probably the same as when they look at how the UK handled it.

Dont forget its reckoned that Boris Johnsons dither in locking down and then trying to save Christmas cost many 10,000s British lives

Coupled to that we have the worst prrforming economy of any major nation worldwide!!

Lockdown too late & it must go on for longer & leads to far more deaths

Its textbook how not to handle a pandemic
18/03/2021 19:01:11 1 0
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Canada isn't impressed,

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2021/02/08/heres-why-modernas-covid-19-vaccine-shipments-to-canada-have-been-delayed.html

Nor Australia. Though I'm rather amazed at how Biden gets away with it, he is the cause of India's production troubles, restricting the export of reagents and equipment needed in production plants, yet no major headlines Trump would have got
18/03/2021 21:51:34 2 0
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Should think they have more important things to care about than the EU!!!
18/03/2021 23:24:55 0 0
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you don't know what the eu is do you
18/03/2021 23:51:29 1 0
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Nothing to do with EU it was individual countries stop making it up exercising sovereign rights . DOH
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18/03/2021 16:04:22 4 34
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Still waiting for the bombshell awakening from these vaccines ??
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:05:01 13 2
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What awakening would that be then?
18/03/2021 20:49:39 0 0
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Who knows? ????? time will tell
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18/03/2021 16:05:19 2 2
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Don’t Panic! Don’t Panic!
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18/03/2021 16:06:53 4 0
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Don't tell him your name Pike :)
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18/03/2021 16:05:23 368 8
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I had my AZ vaccine this morning.
All I ask for is all the relevant information to be available, I am more than capable of making my own decisions and will live (or die) with the consequences.
There is no such thing as a risk free life!
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18/03/2021 16:36:02 168 5
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Yes. The past summer I got a nasty skin infection and the antibiotics the dr gave me have a big warning 'sometimes cause liver damage in over-50's, which can appear months after use.' I called up the pharmacist and talked with him, and I decided to go ahead anyway.
18/03/2021 18:36:00 3 0
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Me too. Luckily only negative was I got a bit chilly (it’s cold up north!) waiting in a very long Q. ?? Thankfully everyone is not listening to EU politicians
18/03/2021 19:06:54 6 0
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Risk of blood clot whilst taking the pill : one in a thousand.
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Jon
18/03/2021 16:03:33 59 33
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Damn! Another blow to EU loving remainers
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:05:24 17 28
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How so?
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18/03/2021 16:05:39 190 17
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The benefits of the AZ vaccination far outweigh the dangers. How many more people will die in some european countries because they stopped the AZ vaccine? It is irresponsible what the German, French and other governmnet are doing!
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Less then those that died in the UK as a direct result of Boris Johnson dithering in locking down the nation until far too late

They reckon 25,000 British lives were lost in the 1st lockdown and many more in the 3rd because of his dither

But at least he tried his very best to save Christmas, eh?
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18/03/2021 17:22:14 5 20
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They paused it pending examination of adverse reaction reports. Perfectly responsible . Now being blown up into anti EU propaganda.
The word ‘clot’ has a number of meanings.
There are plenty of clots in the EU when it comes to vaccine rollout. None of which have anything to do with congealed blood.
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18/03/2021 16:06:34 313 11
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35 odd people developed a blood clot out of 17 million doses.

That's like saying if you got run over by a car and being killed after having your jab then it was the jab that killed you and not the car !

So basically, anyone that develops anything will now have it blamed on the vaccine it seems.
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18/03/2021 16:27:06 254 56
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Yes, it's classic anti-vaxxer thinking and PR. France is well known to be an anti-science anti-vaxxer country, their views on this should have been discounted immediately. Instead the BBC went wild spreading this far and wide - probably because they hire a lot of anti-vax middle-class media-studies types.
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18/03/2021 16:27:53 16 13
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Well, this is nothing new. Anybody that dies within 28 days of a positive Covid test are added to the Covid stats. Considering the age and disease profile of most of those with serious Covid, this is a bit debatable. Did they die of Covid, or old-age, pre-existing lung conditions etc?
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18/03/2021 16:31:00 11 7
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COVID has had the blame for most deaths for the last 12 months.
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18/03/2021 17:14:08 8 1
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With 17 million being vacinated, there must be quite a number of deaths and I'm sure they were all caused by the vacine too... We need to start denying the refuseniks access to hospitals, care homes, flights, public transport etc, etc so as to give them a reason to man up and get the shot.
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18/03/2021 17:19:59 17 2
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The Pfizer vaccination shows higher rate of blood clots but the EU countries ignore this
18/03/2021 18:59:33 0 1
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Well the BBC was perfectly happy to parrot this logic when counting COVID deaths, why should we believe them now?
Jas
18/03/2021 19:24:13 1 0
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Uk DoT states ~4.6 Road deaths a day. 1 clot death in 3 months.

Blinded by Stats?
18/03/2021 19:44:46 0 0
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How can you speak after being killed ¿
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18/03/2021 16:04:24 249 11
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It sounds as if the vaccine is much safer than aspirin or paracetamol.
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 255 9
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Not to mention chocolate, alcohol, butter, pork sausages and sunshine.
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18/03/2021 17:12:10 4 0
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Nooooooo. All the good stuff!
18/03/2021 18:15:46 4 0
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Chocolate should not be injected, not sure about the others.
18/03/2021 18:29:10 4 0
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Or, for that matter, the contraceptive pill which is known to cause blood clots but which has been prescribed for decades!
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And Croissants.
18/03/2021 20:56:53 0 0
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And driving or walking along the pavement.
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 255 11
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You are more likely to be killed on the way to the vaccination than you are to suffer a blood clot.
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18/03/2021 16:21:05 111 8
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Don’t know that’s true or not but either way worth the risk compared to Covid.
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18/03/2021 16:43:49 3 8
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Probably by being run over by an anti-Brexiter driving on the same side of the road as they do in the EU just to show solidarity with them!!
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18/03/2021 17:39:26 2 11
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The EU will finish before the UK.
Don't fall for british propaganda.
We are the only country in the world that went for the delayed jab policy. Wonder why. Maybe to make the numbers look better.
Plus the EU has approved the Johnson & johnson. It is a game changer because it needs a single dose only. And the UK keeps waiting and running out of vaccines. Because India and the EU are not exporting
18/03/2021 17:52:52 3 0
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You keep saying on the way to the vaccination centre completely ignoring the way back from the vaccination centre!
18/03/2021 19:00:17 2 2
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Still not taking it.
18/03/2021 19:32:46 0 0
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Nonsense. I had to break speed limits to race back to my healthy slim mum who out of the blue suffered a blood clot 2.5 weeks later. ...
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 629 53
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We know there is no evidence. Everyone with a medical qualification is saying there is no evidence. Oxford AZ is no more likely to give you a blood clot than any other vaccine. It is just as likely in people who have not been vaccinated.

I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots. Shocking.

BBC need to state this is fake news and stop covering it.
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18/03/2021 16:09:39 599 46
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"I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots."

Now see, this is what infuriates me, people are already describing the AZ vaccine as the "worse one" etc., all on the back of the EU's smear campaign. Not only have they managed to turn off millions of their own people from taking this wonderful vaccine, they've succeeded in some cases here too. Disgrace.
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18/03/2021 16:10:59 74 7
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i also spoke to a woman this week who was invited to get her jab but also claiming she was so glad she hadnt booked yet - more fool her i say and equally as shocking
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18/03/2021 16:13:17 21 53
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The BBC is delivering the news 'AS IS' and NOT flavouring, colouring, bending it in anyway (as far as that is possible for humans).
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18/03/2021 16:24:08 34 2
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It's pointless doing that. Most of the easily persuaded types get their 'news' from Facebook or U Tube videos anyway. If you really want to be shocked, go onto FBs videos, and see what garbage people are imbibing all over the world.
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18/03/2021 16:24:58 43 3
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A neighbour who had her vaccination today, told me that she had had doubts because of the clots issue and almost cancelled. Fortunately, reason prevailed and she had the vaccination despite the false qualms.
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18/03/2021 16:28:26 26 1
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I hope his cancelled appointment was offered to some-one else!
357
18/03/2021 16:39:51 24 4
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I believe there is no evidence the AZ vaccine causes blood clots, but even if it did. Chances of dying from a blood clot following vaccination 1 in 500,000. Chances of dying from Covid should an average person catch it 1 in 100. The decision to get vaccinated is a 'no brainer'.
Well that person is basically an idiot. He's risking ending up in ICU on a ventilator rather than have a jab with a virtually zero chance of getting a blood clot. I hope you pointed that out. Removed
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18/03/2021 17:13:04 2 2
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So they should have ignored it, and then been complained at for ignoring it, should they?

Who in their right mind would be a journalist? -whatever- you you say will have someone moaning it is wrong!
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VoR
18/03/2021 17:34:13 5 1
bbc
It's not fake news. It's real news. However, the real news is about what people who misinterpret data and science are doing (possibly for political reasons).

I think people have a right to know if their leaders are idiots. And if they keep reading the news, that's what they'll discover about those that suspended the use of the vaccine without the data supporting that even as a precaution.
877
18/03/2021 17:37:05 1 1
bbc
Yes, let's shoot the messenger!
nic
18/03/2021 17:57:49 2 6
bbc
I know someone who had a clot from it. Not fake
18/03/2021 17:52:14 5 2
bbc
Absolutely right. It's been a completely bogus issue from the outset. I can only imagine that many politicos on the mainland are desperate for a pretext to discredit AstraZenica, to save a sliver of face themselves.
18/03/2021 18:39:54 3 0
bbc
I agree. I actually think that the story should not have been run at all.
18/03/2021 19:11:17 1 0
bbc
Check out the Vaccine Yellow Card reports published at gov.uk if you want to see the figures on reactions to the vaccine.
18/03/2021 19:22:02 0 4
bbc
The problem is this is not fake news , its the truth but its the risk that needs clarifying and putting in perspective as it is with Covid for that matter or any other risk we face daily .
18/03/2021 19:36:15 0 0
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so did i
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18/03/2021 16:05:19 2 2
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Don’t Panic! Don’t Panic!
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18/03/2021 16:06:53 4 0
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Don't tell him your name Pike :)
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18/03/2021 16:04:24 249 11
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It sounds as if the vaccine is much safer than aspirin or paracetamol.
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18/03/2021 16:07:12 29 2
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Just had my AZ shot in the last 10 minutes, and grateful and proud to have done so. Thank you NHS, the UK government and British Scientists and Engineers who made it all possible.

Quite emotional really!
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ian
18/03/2021 16:11:25 13 1
bbc
Well said!
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18/03/2021 16:20:18 17 0
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I had mine yesterday, which was the AZ variety, apart from some minor side effects (muscle ache and the snuffles), which should disappear in a day or two, really glad I got vaccinated. Can only echo your remark re. those behind the development of these vaccines.
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18/03/2021 16:31:58 1 0
bbc
One side effect of the vaccine !!!
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18/03/2021 17:42:35 3 0
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Me too - had mine (AZ) yesterday and very happy about it. After 30 hours I've only had a barely detectable ache in my upper arm.
The Clot Review presumably identified one in Paris called Macron? Removed
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18/03/2021 16:25:24 0 1
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Is he a quasi-effective clot do do think?
33
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Brussels trying to stir up trouble again!! If they keep taking supplies of the Oxford vaccine but refuse to give it to their citizens maybe they ought to send them poorer countries instead of going to waste!

Despite the years since the WW1&2. attitude towards Britain (and anyone else who disagrees with them or doesn’t toe the line) is still the same as ever!!

Glad to be free of them!
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18/03/2021 16:24:38 0 1
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You really think the World Wars were between Britain and Europe? Boris and Nige had it easy convincing you to jump on the Eton gravy train!!!
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18/03/2021 16:28:57 0 0
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It wasn't Brussels, it was the individual nations exercising their sovereignty in making decisions that did this. Sure, the decision was wrong, but it wasn't the EU. The EMA said it was entirely safe.
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18/03/2021 16:30:02 0 0
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The same as Britain's attitude to most of Europe really. Half the country seem to think WWII is still on.
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
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18/03/2021 16:07:46 12 1
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The benefits of the AZ vaccine far outweigh the dangers. It is irresponsible that some European governments are stopping this vaccine, many more will die because of their action. Shame on Merkel, Macron & Co.
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18/03/2021 16:08:02 13 2
bbc
Good, lets all get on with vaccinating without the politics. China and Russia have their state sponsored vaccines but those in the free world should be traded by the manufacturers per their contracts - unless the EU says otherwise!
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18/03/2021 16:08:11 116 13
bbc
Apparently if you get run over by a bus when you come out of the vaccination centre that's classed as a side effect by deniers :)
911
18/03/2021 17:41:15 52 22
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And if you get run over by a bus within 28 days of a positive test you get counted as a Sars-Cov2 death as well.
18/03/2021 17:54:17 1 0
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They will say it blurred your senses
18/03/2021 21:23:42 0 0
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If you get run over by a bus while infected by Covid that's counted as a Covid death. Fact. Not denying 80% of deaths are caused by Covid but have never understood why death for any reason if infected is counted.
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18/03/2021 16:08:32 119 25
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the only clots to do with the vaccines is the EU because they didnt get it right and we did and are trying to make out its a fault of someone else - therefore trying and failing to cover there own incompetence up
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18/03/2021 16:15:54 64 102
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 16:58:48 6 11
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However, it is the only thing that Johnson's inept government did get right.
Some soverign european nations chose to ban it

Some soverign european nations chose to keep using it

And you think this is an EU plot against poor little Blighty?

Lol
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18/03/2021 16:04:45 428 47
bbc
Gosh, what a surprise !!!!!!!

EU are playing political games at the expense of people's lives !!!!!!!!!

Makes you wonder what the rest of the world are thinking about how the EU is dealing with this pandemic

Late to the party and saying they deserve to jump the queue !!!!!!
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18/03/2021 16:08:44 135 216
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Norway isn't part of the EU. They are entitled to review and examine their concerns. It's nothing more than that. Certainly not about Brexit. That has happened; move on.
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18/03/2021 16:31:20 23 25
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If you actually believe that this is not about politics and slowing down the UK vaccination program, even at the expense of theirs then you are very naïve.
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18/03/2021 16:51:23 11 17
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Here we go again, 'Norway not part of EU' etc etc. We do know that. But Norway has no doubt been influenced by what the EU has done. Just as people in the UK are now nervous about the AZ vaccine because of the EU's actions.
596
18/03/2021 17:02:28 3 1
bbc
What about other vaccines? No mention on Pfizer or Moderna
607
18/03/2021 17:03:48 8 8
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It's not about Brexit? It's about an anti-UK sentiment amongst certain EU leaders and bureaucrats. Shameful that they have put the lives of their own people at risk as a result of their political posturing
725
18/03/2021 17:18:05 5 8
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No they’re not part of the EU, they just have to do whatever the EU rules tell them to do.
730
18/03/2021 17:18:47 3 6
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It is in the EEA though. That's where the EU wanted us - no vote but all the drawbacks!
816
18/03/2021 17:29:49 2 4
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Don’t be an apologist for stupid politicians in Norway, it only makes them feel vindicated.

When they should actually be whipped though the streets of Oslo wearing fools’ caps!
994
18/03/2021 17:52:03 4 0
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You're wasting your time talking common sense. Very little about in UK.
18/03/2021 17:54:12 0 1
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>That has happened; move on

well that's precisely the problem - we cant move on becuase what has been said and done cant be unsaid and undone. this has happened and a whole lot of additional vaccine hesitancy will follow as a result whatever brexity "move on" mantras you feel like quoting.
18/03/2021 17:58:00 2 4
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Norway IS part of the EU for medicines and vaccines regulation
18/03/2021 17:58:05 0 2
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Sad deluded statement there John!
18/03/2021 19:04:25 0 2
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If you believe that you you'd believe anything. Norway was equally careful over Pfizer's vaccine and 33+ deaths from it - did the EU respond? Yes, but by attacking the AZ vaccine shortly after, no suspensions for Pfizer. As far as the EU is concerned the UK is the target and it is because of Brexit, they can't have us a success on their doorstep particularly after only 2 months
18/03/2021 20:29:58 0 1
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Correct, its part of the EEA, which means it follows EU rules, has freedom of movement to and from the EU, has access to the EU markets in a customs union. In fact the only real difference is that they cant vote on EU rules, have Euro MPs or have to share their fishing grounds. Other than that it might as well be a member.
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18/03/2021 16:08:55 6 28
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To all you EU haters, Germany had 7 times the normal number of a certain type of clot & 3 people died it would have been totally irresponsible for them not to stop & check
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18/03/2021 16:11:07 9 1
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As opposed to 3-400 people a day dieting in Germany from Covid, you pause rollout due to 3? Someone’s logic seriously flawed. 400 die to save 3? Complete senseless.
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18/03/2021 16:18:05 0 0
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Source of the evidence for this claim?
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18/03/2021 16:23:43 1 0
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What, 7 cases then? Put comparable facts out then. How many DIDN'T have clots?

In millions please - answers on a postcard....
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18/03/2021 16:36:16 0 0
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I don't understand why so many thumbs down, European colleagues are telling me that its being reported the bloodclots are affecting one sex and one age group more than expected so thats why the precaution
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18/03/2021 16:05:39 190 17
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The benefits of the AZ vaccination far outweigh the dangers. How many more people will die in some european countries because they stopped the AZ vaccine? It is irresponsible what the German, French and other governmnet are doing!
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Good news. Let's all get on with the protection this vaccine gives. If the EU don't want it then more fool them. Using the vaccine to hide their own stupidity. Removed
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Jon
18/03/2021 16:03:33 59 33
bbc
Damn! Another blow to EU loving remainers
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18/03/2021 16:09:05 3 9
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You must have had the Az vaccine you are showning serious symptons of Clotting.????
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18/03/2021 16:04:22 4 34
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Still waiting for the bombshell awakening from these vaccines ??
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18/03/2021 16:09:09 7 0
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It won’t make you more intelligent if that’s what you’re thinking
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18/03/2021 16:09:14 3 3
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To the few;
We are sorry.
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18/03/2021 16:09:20 155 6
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My partner was discovered to have blood clots in both lungs about 10 years ago. Nothing whatsoever to do with any vaccination. He has a genetic predisposition to suffer from clots and now takes a blood thinning medication every day. I assume there are other people who have this blood clotting problem but are simply not aware of it.
18/03/2021 20:05:11 20 0
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i was asked if I was taking warfrin (blood thinner) etc before my first AZ vaccine, 3 weeks ago, long before any of these stories came out. Presumably NHS is being cautious and ensuring they catch all the people susceptible to clotting as a precaution - clot risk applies to ANY vaccine, I believe.

AZ is safe, painless and WORTH that miniscule risk! go for it, everyone, for society's sake!
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
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18/03/2021 16:08:41 17 2
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Yes, they really are quite pathetic. I voted to stay but this nonsense has underlined just how far apart we are from our "friends" in Europe.

Luigi.
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18/03/2021 16:23:19 2 0
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So because they chose to be a bit over the top careful, we're very different for them?

True. We do run into things with our eyes closed. Not saying they did the wrong thing, but they just did it differently.
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 629 53
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We know there is no evidence. Everyone with a medical qualification is saying there is no evidence. Oxford AZ is no more likely to give you a blood clot than any other vaccine. It is just as likely in people who have not been vaccinated.

I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots. Shocking.

BBC need to state this is fake news and stop covering it.
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18/03/2021 16:09:39 599 46
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"I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots."

Now see, this is what infuriates me, people are already describing the AZ vaccine as the "worse one" etc., all on the back of the EU's smear campaign. Not only have they managed to turn off millions of their own people from taking this wonderful vaccine, they've succeeded in some cases here too. Disgrace.
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18/03/2021 16:13:37 37 3
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Well if they don't want it; all the more for us!
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18/03/2021 16:15:20 84 19
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Indeed. For a short time yesterday, the BBC's lead story on their website was about a gentleman's side effects from the vaccination.

Totally and utterly misguided to place that as a lead story, bearing in mind the millions that have benefited.
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18/03/2021 16:15:44 56 18
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The EU is a disgrace. I think most people will be able to see through it after the pandemic. The bail outs for the south are almost nothing compared to what is needed, and are only there really to protect the badly exposed German and French banks. EU should have followed the science, rather than p;lay greedy and political games.
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18/03/2021 16:22:12 63 5
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I suspect the smear is because it’s not for profit unlike the Pfizer one at 5 times the price.
The worst one is the Glaxo-Sinofi one. It doesn't work. The second worst is the Chinese one. It barely works.

That said the Oxford/AZ one does have a MASSIVE flaw the Pfizer/BioNtech or Moderna doesn't.... because its chimp-virus based you can only give it twice ever. Forget getting an annual Oxford jab. Thats why its called a first generation vaccine.
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caz
18/03/2021 16:59:48 10 4
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Should be put to the back of the queue then plenty of people wpupd jump at the chance.
It is the worst one

Less effective then pfizer

Side effects much more common with AZ compared to pfizer

Small risk of blood clots
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18/03/2021 17:09:32 25 3
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I got my vaccine after the surgery phoned me and asked me to go straightaway. A woman had been in and when she found out it was the AZ vaccine on offer she walked out. Her loss.
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18/03/2021 17:10:16 18 3
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If they develop Covid and need hospital treatment, then they should foot the bill. This is probably the only way to teach these anti vaxxers and those who refuse the vaccine because only a handful of cases had clots not to think twice.
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18/03/2021 17:25:40 6 8
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The EU didn't drive any smear campaign, try to give yourself a break from blaming the EU for anything and everything!
It was the single governments driven by the legal challenges into the deaths of some people that had the AZ vaccine.
Inform yourself better!!!
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nog
18/03/2021 17:34:47 4 10
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I’m quite content to sit and wait until the U.K. trials finish in May. If people were allowed to discuss safety concerns in a rational way instead of being called selfish or stupid or worse then we wouldn’t have so many refusals.
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VoR
18/03/2021 17:35:58 2 1
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To be honest, it is very difficult to describe any of the vaccines as "worse", once you get into the detail of the testing. The ones with the lower "success rates" tend to have defined success as something that is harder to attain. e.g. Being symptomless at 14 days, vs being symptomless from day 14 to day 28 (harder).
980
18/03/2021 17:50:05 2 7
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So safety precautions a smear campaign. Grow up. Just say you hate EU and read the Daily Mail.
18/03/2021 19:31:02 3 0
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Fine by me, If people in the EU or this country don't want the AZ jab the sooner I can get my second one. Their choice
When you know that as German defence minister VDL forced German troops in NATO exercise to carry broomstick as she had not purchased enough guns for the German Army.

You just knew she was going to be an ideal candidate for EU leadership.

A clot of the first order.
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18/03/2021 16:10:32 3 5
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It's revealing that the rational vaccine supporters point to the research, statistics and public statements from trustworthy organisations, whereas the "anti-" just make dramatic statements, for example:
"Ayewhavingalaugh 16:04
Still waiting for the bombshell awakening from these vaccines"
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18/03/2021 16:21:48 1 1
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Yup, lets all defer to "Ayewhavingalaugh" who clearly knows more that all of medical science....
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18/03/2021 16:03:22 51 10
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absolutely, they sacrifice their own people just to make the point
They just cant let it go can they
Now infection rates are out of control and they are all riddled with covid
Close the borders now
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18/03/2021 16:10:43 8 5
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Close the borders now, correct all travel from the EU to be blocked from entering and holidays to the EU to be boycotted
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18/03/2021 16:10:48 9 0
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as the general public under fifity havent been jabbed , then either they were at risk from some other health problem or essential workers
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18/03/2021 16:02:35 586 71
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The only "clots" are in Brussels!
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18/03/2021 16:10:51 491 25
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Macron in particular is doing particular damage to his own folk in the vain attempt to try and save his political position. Sad man
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18/03/2021 17:00:58 16 2
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He should be blocked in all social media platforms for spreading false information. He has indirectly being the cause of death of many people that the vaccine arrived a few days late.
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18/03/2021 17:01:15 36 5
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Macron has shown himself to be a total ass with his petty hatred of Britain during this pandemic. He is doing anything and everything to smear us. The only time he wants us is to go and spend our money. Remember his actions when the ports open. Boycott French holidays and goods.
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18/03/2021 17:24:50 7 3
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I feel sorry for the French people being lead by such a wacko.
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18/03/2021 17:51:03 4 1
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Your political bias typical of division that will never heal in the UK.
18/03/2021 18:41:48 1 0
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A quasi effective man ... referring to AZ as quasi effective... oh the irony !!
Thousands of lives will be lost in France because of this “enfant terrible”...
EU is no longer fit for purpose ...
18/03/2021 19:09:40 2 0
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Has to do something to with the French made vaccine he wanted all the EU to buy , that was not up to scratch ?
18/03/2021 20:58:02 0 0
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He's a sad man child.
18/03/2021 21:10:54 0 0
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Monsieur Le Clot.
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18/03/2021 16:06:37 629 53
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We know there is no evidence. Everyone with a medical qualification is saying there is no evidence. Oxford AZ is no more likely to give you a blood clot than any other vaccine. It is just as likely in people who have not been vaccinated.

I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots. Shocking.

BBC need to state this is fake news and stop covering it.
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18/03/2021 16:10:59 74 7
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i also spoke to a woman this week who was invited to get her jab but also claiming she was so glad she hadnt booked yet - more fool her i say and equally as shocking
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18/03/2021 16:08:55 6 28
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To all you EU haters, Germany had 7 times the normal number of a certain type of clot & 3 people died it would have been totally irresponsible for them not to stop & check
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18/03/2021 16:11:07 9 1
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As opposed to 3-400 people a day dieting in Germany from Covid, you pause rollout due to 3? Someone’s logic seriously flawed. 400 die to save 3? Complete senseless.
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18/03/2021 16:15:44 0 0
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With your logic stopping vaccine for 2 days would have saved 400 lives i think your logic is seriously flawed,
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18/03/2021 16:17:54 0 0
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Dieting? can catching Covid stop me being fat?
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18/03/2021 16:09:59 2 30
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You’d be a clot not to ask for Pfizer instead
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jon
18/03/2021 16:13:35 8 2
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UK usage data shows more clots with Pfizer.
The EU needs to rid itself of their elected clots. Vaccinations will then begin. Removed
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18/03/2021 16:07:12 29 2
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Just had my AZ shot in the last 10 minutes, and grateful and proud to have done so. Thank you NHS, the UK government and British Scientists and Engineers who made it all possible.

Quite emotional really!
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ian
18/03/2021 16:11:25 13 1
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Well said!
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:11:45 13 14
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Once more, for the record: A successful vaccine rollout is not "one in the eye" for remainers. It doesn't change a single damn thing about the Brexit catastrophe.

But it does seem to indicate that some people can only hold a single idea in their head at once.
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18/03/2021 16:14:35 3 2
bbc
You seem annoyed with something or someone!
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18/03/2021 16:15:57 2 0
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It absolutely changes a hell of a lot about leaving, not just confirming the decision was correct but also highlighting to what extremes this elite club will go to protect their own positions and backs, utterly disgraceful from VDL Merkel and Macron to play politics with the lives of their citizens with a planned political attack on AZ that will come back to haunt them all.
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18/03/2021 16:20:29 2 0
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i.e. YOU can only hold one single idea in your head.

The EU brinkmanship on the vaccines is merely ONE example to which people refer, but you've twisted that to suit your own (single-minded) agenda. The irony...
18/03/2021 17:53:06 0 0
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Oh dear. You still haven't managed to move on, have you. Chamomile tea may help.
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18/03/2021 16:12:02 112 9
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40 ish cases of blood clots from 17 million doses.
1 million covid cases = 22,000 dead.
How many die each day in car crashes, why not ban cars.
How many die from smoking cigarettes?.
Mountain, molehill, but its bad news, so lets spread it
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18/03/2021 16:15:33 15 147
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OK if it's not one of your family then?
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18/03/2021 16:16:49 4 11
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So we should just report all the good news and never the bad? "Today, all buses arrived without crashing". How informative. What a useless comment, you're right, let's ban cars and not report on a pandemic that caused hundreds of thousands if excess deaths this year (on top of all the usual like smoking).
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18/03/2021 16:04:45 428 47
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Gosh, what a surprise !!!!!!!

EU are playing political games at the expense of people's lives !!!!!!!!!

Makes you wonder what the rest of the world are thinking about how the EU is dealing with this pandemic

Late to the party and saying they deserve to jump the queue !!!!!!
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18/03/2021 16:12:08 40 29
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 17:43:04 2 0
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Nailed it
18/03/2021 19:20:33 0 1
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In that case it's worse than we thought. Not only did the EU mess up their Joint Procurement Program but so did all the individual national governments. Thanks for those facts. The optics get worse. Glad we didnt.
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18/03/2021 16:12:16 9 7
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"But anyone with a headache lasting more than four days after vaccination should seek medical advice, as a precaution.

The same advice applies if someone develops unusual bruising, it says.

That is because the MHRA has received a very small number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in the brain."

That's known as a "safety signal" and the EU is right to check it out.
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18/03/2021 16:16:53 5 1
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Anybody not having had the vaccine who has a headache lasting more than 4 days or experiencing unexplained bruising should also seek medical attention.

I don’t believe there is anywhere near enough evidence to constitute a safety signal.
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18/03/2021 16:21:16 5 0
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Yes, but the checking could have been done behind the scenes, rather than announced it with a flourish of publicity, which has simply served to frighten their citizens into refusing the vaccine.
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EMA announces AZ jab safe and effective. Leaders of EU states forced to admit their unscientific precautionary principle and vaccine suspension was wrong headed and lacking reason. Will the quasi-ineffective Macron now apologise for ignoring the original advice of the EMA? Removed
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Jon
18/03/2021 16:03:33 59 33
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Damn! Another blow to EU loving remainers
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18/03/2021 16:12:32 12 9
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Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
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18/03/2021 17:50:12 1 1
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It is just so sad, scrolling down these comments, seeing slayerules posting the same one over and over again. If you're that unoriginal (or obsessed), try not sneering at others.
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18/03/2021 16:12:49 62 13
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Thought so. Well done MHRA, AstraZeneca and Boris

Please ignore the EU
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18/03/2021 16:14:50 21 13
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Did Boris review the data?
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18/03/2021 16:14:50 8 10
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Boris did nothing! Except kill thousands through his inaction
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18/03/2021 17:06:07 2 0
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“Please ignore the EU”

—-

That’s the problem. Many EU member states are ignoring the advice of the EU about AstraZeneca.
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18/03/2021 16:12:54 144 26
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Just a simple request. Please moderate headlines. Life has been anxious enough for a year. Play down any bad news and play up any good.

Thankyou
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18/03/2021 17:04:08 71 68
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Or just present straight facts - positive or negative - with no bias either way. I actually believe the BBC is doing this well.
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18/03/2021 17:22:21 8 8
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The BBC give good news. Dont make me laugh. I honestly think the majority of the BBC think it is their job to pump out negativity in the blind hope we will not vote Tory
I guess they have not seen the polls
We dont believe the BBC anymore
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18/03/2021 16:13:03 52 10
bbc
What is really sad that the EU put politics above the lives of their citizens... centralised political ordering as an EU ideal.

This, and the 'clot scare' has cost people lives..

In any country the people would vote her out at the next election but with the EU that is not possible... no democratic control left for the EU citizens after years of fighting for such rights.
82
18/03/2021 16:14:57 19 45
bbc
Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
104
18/03/2021 16:17:30 5 3
bbc
It's as if we didn't have elections for the EU every few years when we were a member. Anyway, the EU always said the vaccine was safe even through this blood clot episode, it was some individual nations exercising the power to make their own decisions (even as a member of the EU) that banned it.
162
18/03/2021 16:22:59 6 5
bbc
This was some EU member states and non EU states, not the EU!
The EMA approved the AZ vaccine and even the UK has now issued new advice regarding blood clots.

The EU has many faults, but in this instance, they are not to 'blame'.
18/03/2021 19:59:52 1 0
bbc
How many more times: it's NOT the EU: EMA has stressed it's safe? It's the individual nations, some of which are not in the EU. Still, I guess to a Brexiteer they're all 'foreigners'.
29
18/03/2021 16:06:37 629 53
bbc
We know there is no evidence. Everyone with a medical qualification is saying there is no evidence. Oxford AZ is no more likely to give you a blood clot than any other vaccine. It is just as likely in people who have not been vaccinated.

I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots. Shocking.

BBC need to state this is fake news and stop covering it.
67
18/03/2021 16:13:17 21 53
bbc
The BBC is delivering the news 'AS IS' and NOT flavouring, colouring, bending it in anyway (as far as that is possible for humans).
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
68
18/03/2021 16:13:30 8 14
bbc
Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
109
18/03/2021 16:18:49 4 9
bbc
It's sad that the actual facts are voted down by the Brexiteer morons.
127
18/03/2021 16:20:13 3 1
bbc
Would that be the EMA that was actually based in England before Brexit? The one that our very own MHRA were always independent of?
55
18/03/2021 16:09:59 2 30
bbc
You’d be a clot not to ask for Pfizer instead
69
jon
18/03/2021 16:13:35 8 2
bbc
UK usage data shows more clots with Pfizer.
178
18/03/2021 16:25:21 1 1
bbc
What a surprise.
47
18/03/2021 16:09:39 599 46
bbc
"I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots."

Now see, this is what infuriates me, people are already describing the AZ vaccine as the "worse one" etc., all on the back of the EU's smear campaign. Not only have they managed to turn off millions of their own people from taking this wonderful vaccine, they've succeeded in some cases here too. Disgrace.
70
18/03/2021 16:13:37 37 3
bbc
Well if they don't want it; all the more for us!
674
18/03/2021 17:11:38 4 1
bbc
Well, not at the moment... because AstraZeneca have to fulfil an order for India before they get back to UK deliveries. Unless you're saying that you should get your vaccines before our loyal imperial trading partners?
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nog
18/03/2021 17:35:54 6 1
bbc
That’s a positive comment; rare on here!
18/03/2021 18:44:06 5 0
bbc
Except they don't want us to have it either, Ursula threatened to stop exports to the UK IF we don't give them some of our vaccines. They have so trashed the reputation of the AZ vaccine they now have stockpiles of it, better that we inject it into our people than have them put it on shelves as they try and undo the damage done in their vaccine war.
71
18/03/2021 16:13:50 32 2
bbc
I've had a AZ jab. I now chatter a lot and have a constant craving for bananas. Fine apart from that.
86
18/03/2021 16:15:25 9 4
bbc
We'll get a vet to treat you in a zoo...if you catch Covid that is..
169
18/03/2021 16:23:54 4 0
bbc
Are you sure that you are not pregnant?
jmw
18/03/2021 18:58:41 0 0
bbc
Very good. I’m assuming your craving for bananas is in reference to the chimpanzee element of the vaccine?
8
18/03/2021 16:02:35 586 71
bbc
The only "clots" are in Brussels!
72
18/03/2021 16:14:05 21 2
bbc
Don’t forget the clots of media
151
18/03/2021 16:22:09 29 3
bbc
In particular our own which seems to be revelling in our "bump in the road" - World at One today was appalling.
73
18/03/2021 16:14:08 38 1
bbc
What a surprise - EU Medical agency says it’s all safe.
18/03/2021 20:01:17 3 2
bbc
Never said otherwise.
18/03/2021 21:31:40 0 0
bbc
As they've been saying for a while now.
It was verious countries (EU and non-EU) that idiotically paused AZ vaccines against the UK, EU, and WHO's guidance.
74
18/03/2021 16:14:08 3 4
bbc
Headache seems a common side effect.when i had my first jab,the headache,(which was only mild),lasted about 1 hour.
252
18/03/2021 16:31:11 0 0
bbc
I wouldn’t even call that a side effect. I’d call it completely normal physiology associated with normal immune responses.
18/03/2021 20:52:25 0 0
bbc
That is a conspiracy theory, please report to the ministry of truth for reduction immediately
75
18/03/2021 16:14:20 39 5
bbc
Sadly most politicians and many in the media don't understand statistics. You have a greater risk of being struck by lightning than of getting a blood clot from any Covid-19 vaccine.
76
18/03/2021 16:12:39 19 4
bbc
We all knew what the outcome would be and will be after EMA produce theirs later, it was criminally irresponsible for these countries to suspend the AZ vaccine and restarting them now to skeptical public has only driven one more nail in somebodies coffin.
5
18/03/2021 16:02:12 823 37
bbc
The benefits far outweigh the risk, even if there is a risk. The numbers of reported clots are miniscule. The risk of being killed while driving to the vaccine centre is probably many times higher.
77
18/03/2021 16:13:12 632 112
bbc
EU is going to kick itself when the UK comes out of lockdown about a year earlier because we haven;t been playing politics.
292
18/03/2021 16:34:32 30 8
bbc
Although out of lockdown EU travel will still suffer because of vaccinations.
325
18/03/2021 16:36:25 71 36
bbc
The EU said carry on using it. Some countries decided to pause until today's report. Use facts, from the horses mouth not gossip.
330
18/03/2021 16:36:45 27 80
bbc
While I agree with you more or less don't kid yourself we're not playing politics. The EU making itself a target by being silly covers up a lot of failures in the EU deal. Our shellfish are suddenly forgotten too. Plus Boris is claiming credit for the Oxford vaccine which actually started under Gordon Brown! (not that Brown had anything to do with it either)
342
18/03/2021 16:38:09 58 14
bbc
And you still cannot go anywhere, it is not a competition. All countries need to make progress.
453
18/03/2021 16:48:39 18 30
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Rubbish. Spain restrictions very limited compared to. UK. Kids in school since September. What you never refer to are deathtotals in EU countries. I wonder why.
prat comment Removed
562
18/03/2021 16:59:48 38 13
bbc
The EU has only itself to blame for shooting itself in the foot over it's vaccine roll out. I voted remain, but the EU has let remainers down very badly and has made the right wing bigots heroes.

I want to return to travelling in the EU, but not until they've vaccinated their people and got their own house in order. The president President Ursula von der Leyen should resign immediately.
604
18/03/2021 17:03:23 21 24
bbc
Childish remark.
The uk has been locked down for many months more then any EU nation in the last year

Are you kicking yourself because of that?

Remember that due to these lockdowns the UK has the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

Also cases of Covid will naturally disappear in the spring / summer months, same as last year

By the time autumn comes around they will be more then caught up
640
18/03/2021 17:07:35 16 19
bbc
Of course, they'll also have tens of thousands less dead people because they locked down earlier and more effectively, so they'll also be wondering why our rabid jingoists are getting so excited about one and pretending not to remember the other.
817
18/03/2021 17:29:54 4 7
bbc
Unless they cut off our supplies first. Showing their true colours during at the moment.
850
18/03/2021 17:34:24 14 5
bbc
It's the EU (or it's medicines agency) that's just said it's safe. It was the Governments of some countries (including some OUTSIDE Europe) who should be ashamed of their scare-mongering.
851
18/03/2021 17:34:24 3 17
bbc
The EU will vaccinate before the UK in the End. They have approved the Johnson & johnson. One jab and job done.
The UK still waiting with people not fully vaccinated
858
18/03/2021 17:35:15 13 6
bbc
The EU regulator had already declared it safe, and besides some of the countries who paused it weren't in the EU - but why let the facts interfere with your anti-EU narrative?
18/03/2021 18:04:08 4 9
bbc
Dont get carried away with notions of UK superiority. We still have had the highest death rate per head of population in Europe and probably the World.
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Jim
18/03/2021 16:11:45 13 14
bbc
Once more, for the record: A successful vaccine rollout is not "one in the eye" for remainers. It doesn't change a single damn thing about the Brexit catastrophe.

But it does seem to indicate that some people can only hold a single idea in their head at once.
78
18/03/2021 16:14:35 3 2
bbc
You seem annoyed with something or someone!
79
18/03/2021 16:14:41 2 9
bbc
Cover up?
64
18/03/2021 16:12:49 62 13
bbc
Thought so. Well done MHRA, AstraZeneca and Boris

Please ignore the EU
80
18/03/2021 16:14:50 21 13
bbc
Did Boris review the data?
213
18/03/2021 16:28:14 0 4
bbc
He has minions to do that !!
18/03/2021 18:01:19 1 0
bbc
No, he's not a scientist. As PM, his job is to make decisions on the basis of expert advice. And that's exactly what he did. Fortunately, this time it was the right advice, instead of Great Barringtonian nonsense peddled by Prof Gupta and her followers.
18/03/2021 19:29:52 1 1
bbc
No but unlike Ursula and the rest of the EU he ensured the UK vaccine project was a success and not the debacle the EU's has turned into even worse the EU has played politics with lives and weaponised vaccines - so has Biden ,but you don't hear much about him.
The only clots are in the EU from Ursula downwards. Removed
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Ads
18/03/2021 16:14:50 6 0
bbc
Interestingly, the pro-EU British, are defending the EU when those that remain members across Europe are livid.
66
18/03/2021 16:13:03 52 10
bbc
What is really sad that the EU put politics above the lives of their citizens... centralised political ordering as an EU ideal.

This, and the 'clot scare' has cost people lives..

In any country the people would vote her out at the next election but with the EU that is not possible... no democratic control left for the EU citizens after years of fighting for such rights.
82
18/03/2021 16:14:57 19 45
bbc
Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
207
18/03/2021 16:27:18 6 6
bbc
You know that it is just spite against the UK that these EU countries are doing it. But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
263
18/03/2021 16:23:20 6 6
bbc
It's only their attempts to scupper our success that made them trash our vaccine and suspend it in their countries. Then again, if they suspend it for a week or so, then it will look better when they restart as they will appear to have better stocks.
E.U Political obstruction has barely started yet. We'll soon see how petulant they will get.
921
18/03/2021 17:43:43 2 3
bbc
The irony of this limp-wristed little sneer from someone who's cutting and pasting his comments...
18/03/2021 19:34:59 0 1
bbc
According to the Italian regulator IT is politics, Germany and France the 2 overlords of the EU up to their necks in it, tho' Germany cleverly doesn't say it out loud, they leak to 'handelsblatt & Bild' who refuse to say who said what to whom, then they retract. ;-)

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/suspension-astrazeneca-shots-political-decision-064011319.html
15
18/03/2021 16:04:22 4 34
bbc
Still waiting for the bombshell awakening from these vaccines ??
83
18/03/2021 16:15:04 6 1
bbc
The bombshell that there is a direct link between the people who don't take the vaccine and their low IQ ?
166
18/03/2021 16:23:18 1 3
bbc
Hahaha nice flex keyboard warrior
47
18/03/2021 16:09:39 599 46
bbc
"I had a person tell me today he had cancelled his vaccine after reading about blood clots."

Now see, this is what infuriates me, people are already describing the AZ vaccine as the "worse one" etc., all on the back of the EU's smear campaign. Not only have they managed to turn off millions of their own people from taking this wonderful vaccine, they've succeeded in some cases here too. Disgrace.
84
18/03/2021 16:15:20 84 19
bbc
Indeed. For a short time yesterday, the BBC's lead story on their website was about a gentleman's side effects from the vaccination.

Totally and utterly misguided to place that as a lead story, bearing in mind the millions that have benefited.
71
18/03/2021 16:13:50 32 2
bbc
I've had a AZ jab. I now chatter a lot and have a constant craving for bananas. Fine apart from that.
86
18/03/2021 16:15:25 9 4
bbc
We'll get a vet to treat you in a zoo...if you catch Covid that is..
87
18/03/2021 16:15:25 4 4
bbc
the eu and liar van de liar just cant let it go, its so sad
The Az is now safe according to ema.
How many lives have they cost to keep the eu dream alive, almost criminal negligence
103
18/03/2021 16:17:29 1 1
bbc
Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
59
18/03/2021 16:12:02 112 9
bbc
40 ish cases of blood clots from 17 million doses.
1 million covid cases = 22,000 dead.
How many die each day in car crashes, why not ban cars.
How many die from smoking cigarettes?.
Mountain, molehill, but its bad news, so lets spread it
88
18/03/2021 16:15:33 15 147
bbc
OK if it's not one of your family then?
273
18/03/2021 16:33:02 21 2
bbc
There is more chance of winning the Lottery jackpot two weeks on the trot than one of my family dying from a blood clot that could possibly be caused by the Astra-Zeneca vaccine !!!!
600
18/03/2021 17:02:53 20 2
bbc
40 ish cases of blood clots from 17 million doses.
1 million covid cases = 22,000 dead.

What if you are one of the family of the 22,000 who perished if vaccinations hadn't been paused to protect the 40?
627
18/03/2021 17:06:14 18 5
bbc
What a very juvenile comment
18/03/2021 18:17:28 6 1
bbc
Wise words , Not!
18/03/2021 18:49:29 1 0
bbc
Ridiculous.
18/03/2021 19:23:29 0 0
bbc
I hate to be the one to inform you Andrew, but even Religions don't offer you eternal life BEFORE death.
18/03/2021 19:54:11 0 0
bbc
Doesn't change the science or statistics.
89
18/03/2021 16:15:41 4 4
bbc
A lot of comments are about the EU procurement, Pro EU but I would never trust them as they are incompetent. Its always annoyed me that the UK and other countries never took them to task.
The cleaver countries in the EU either never used them or did both.

Cannot wait to shove the great success of the Covid vaccine down the anti vax idiots throats
54
18/03/2021 16:11:07 9 1
bbc
As opposed to 3-400 people a day dieting in Germany from Covid, you pause rollout due to 3? Someone’s logic seriously flawed. 400 die to save 3? Complete senseless.
90
18/03/2021 16:15:44 0 0
bbc
With your logic stopping vaccine for 2 days would have saved 400 lives i think your logic is seriously flawed,
91
18/03/2021 16:15:47 5 3
bbc
If the want imperial proof that it does not cause the growth of small clots they should test it on Macron.
92
18/03/2021 16:15:47 10 0
bbc
It was the correct decision to review the potential risk identified, but it’s also good to see the decision taken was to continue with the AZ vaccine, which will save more lives c/w the number of people contracting Covid-19 and dying as a consequence.

Now we have to wait and see if the decision makes any difference to people’s opinions about vaccination, which may have become more cautious!
121
18/03/2021 16:19:26 9 0
bbc
It was the correct decision to review the potential risk, but it was an utterly stupid decision to suspend vaccinations while that review took place.
421
18/03/2021 16:46:19 0 0
bbc
The fact that the online bookings were still going like hot cakes suggests that confidence wasn’t dented at all here.
18/03/2021 19:40:20 0 0
bbc
Certainly any serious side effects or deaths should be investigated, but suspending the AZ vaccination programme seems totally unnecessary for such a small number of deaths. It will have undermined confidence in the AZ vaccine and so fewer will be vaccinated and as a result more will die of covid.
37
18/03/2021 16:08:32 119 25
bbc
the only clots to do with the vaccines is the EU because they didnt get it right and we did and are trying to make out its a fault of someone else - therefore trying and failing to cover there own incompetence up
93
18/03/2021 16:15:54 64 102
bbc
Well it's not actually the EU - the European Medicines Agency has recommended people keep giving the vaccine. It's the national governments that have been stopping it as they have sovereignty over healthcare.

You know....that thing you Brexiteers said we didn't have.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your blinkered view?
275
18/03/2021 16:33:14 14 5
bbc
Maybe the EMA is sane and responsible. Maybe the first country to report a possible problem with the vaccine was behaving responsibly. What was absurdly irresponsible was most of the other EU countries jumping on the band-wagon of banning the vaccine on grounds that were no stronger than "EU solidarity" - a cause that is particularly dear to their hearts as Oxford AZ is seen as "anti-EU" British
397
18/03/2021 16:43:46 7 3
bbc
I do love this straw man that's being pumped out of every FBPE account on Twitter at the moment with no thought as to whether it makes sense or not.
It's just possible there may be more to sovereignty in some peoples' eyes than the right of a nation to determine its own vaccination policy!
605
18/03/2021 17:03:25 18 13
bbc
Will Remainers never accept that they were wrong. The fact that the European Commission is accountable to no one has been made absolutely clear by this debacle. The peoples of Europe now find that there is no democratic way in which they can doing anything to prevent the Commission from doing exactly what it wants. Wake up and see the reality that people have died because of this arrogance.
769
18/03/2021 17:23:01 11 2
bbc
Well, you tell me where the slurs against AZ efficacy originated?

The EU and VDLs insane quest against the UK.
I think I have seen the same stupid post multiple times. Idiot. Removed
18/03/2021 19:27:29 1 0
bbc
They followed Germany and France. Germany was also implicated in the false news about the AZ vaccine to start with. At least Macron had the b***s to attack AZ out loud. Germany used 'Yes Minister style 'unattributed leaks' so when it was proved false, they couldn't be blamed.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/suspension-astrazeneca-shots-political-decision-064011319.html
94
18/03/2021 16:16:34 2 3
bbc
What did you expect them to say, after 20-odd million injections? I mean, it's a bit late for a re-call.
95
18/03/2021 16:16:40 7 3
bbc
All just a big scene because someone’s not happy about the EU gravy train coming to an end.
96
18/03/2021 16:16:47 7 2
bbc
EU Medicines Agency has just confirmed AZ vaccine is safe and effective. Perhaps now EU countries who haven't used them will unlock their supplies and stop threatening to stop exports
370
18/03/2021 16:41:31 1 0
bbc
two different issues.
The EU are not stopping AZ doses being shipped to the UK, as the UK supply is made in the UK, and the EU supply is made in the EU.
They might threaten to block Pfizer vaccines which are all made in the EU. And European countries have no issues using pfizer vaccines
97
18/03/2021 16:16:48 3 2
bbc
Still not approved in US .
131
18/03/2021 16:20:20 0 1
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AZ will never be approved in US.
59
18/03/2021 16:12:02 112 9
bbc
40 ish cases of blood clots from 17 million doses.
1 million covid cases = 22,000 dead.
How many die each day in car crashes, why not ban cars.
How many die from smoking cigarettes?.
Mountain, molehill, but its bad news, so lets spread it
98
18/03/2021 16:16:49 4 11
bbc
So we should just report all the good news and never the bad? "Today, all buses arrived without crashing". How informative. What a useless comment, you're right, let's ban cars and not report on a pandemic that caused hundreds of thousands if excess deaths this year (on top of all the usual like smoking).
18/03/2021 18:45:40 2 0
bbc
I can’t help think you missed to point by a country mile ??
18/03/2021 19:24:28 2 1
bbc
The EU reaction was political, nowt to do with fact, Italy's regulator actually said so.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/suspension-astrazeneca-shots-political-decision-064011319.html
61
18/03/2021 16:12:16 9 7
bbc
"But anyone with a headache lasting more than four days after vaccination should seek medical advice, as a precaution.

The same advice applies if someone develops unusual bruising, it says.

That is because the MHRA has received a very small number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in the brain."

That's known as a "safety signal" and the EU is right to check it out.
99
18/03/2021 16:16:53 5 1
bbc
Anybody not having had the vaccine who has a headache lasting more than 4 days or experiencing unexplained bruising should also seek medical attention.

I don’t believe there is anywhere near enough evidence to constitute a safety signal.
100
18/03/2021 16:17:17 1 0
bbc
Now there's a shock... Not