England's Daly replaces injured Slade
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England's Elliot Daly will replace the injured Henry Slade against Ireland in Saturday's Six Nations match, making his first international start at outside centre since 2016.
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That midfield suddenly looks even more lightweight than before
and Daly can't tackle, he does have a great outside break mind you
I'd love to find out if Lawrence is any good?
Me too. I think we lacked the threat of a direct carrying option last week even though the midfield went well.
Lawrence is brilliant - a hybrid of Manu & Robinson. No idea how Daly gets picked ahead of him & Odogwu.
Eddie just won't give youth a go
Eddie just won't give youth a go
Oh goodie, more opportunities for Daly to show just how overrated he is! I assume Odogwu has been released back to wasps then?
Wonder if Daly can be as fantastic as he used to be in the centre? He's a terrible FB but to be fair to him he was always electric as a Centre. Not a bad team all round but we'll see. At least the rumours of him playing Martin at blind side are unfounded.
Always thought 13 was his natural role but Eddie loves playing people out of position and ignoring better talent. Wonder if we’ll see Curry at 8 again soon instead of giving Simmonds or Dombrandt an opportunity.
I've been very critical of Daly for a while now, but he looked much sharper when he came on last week. Hopefully he can bring that to the centre.
I think you are unfair to call him a terrible fullback. He has been asked to play in a way that is not natural to him. I haven't heard people screaming for May's head the way they do for Daly after some appalling failures to catch a ball; I doubt Daly would have gifted the French the first try the way Malins did. But Daly should always have been picked at centre. Hope he shines.
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Elliot Daly is a liability. Lacks concentration, makes poor decisions. I'll be taking bets with my mates at the rugby club on the number of missed tackles and dropped passes he's responsible for before he gets hooked. Poor decision to select him in the centre.
thanks for coming Odogwu. hoped you enjoyed collected cones and chasing box kicks. what a waste of a selection, cant even get a game when our 13 is injured. He hasn't played a game for 10 weeks now, disgraceful and disrespectful
Completely agree! A shameful way to treat a young player. Hope he gives Eddie two fingers and heads off to play for Italy
and the 10 week absence has now gone against him! Very unfair, same for Randall.
Totally agree. At this point with little to play for why not give the younger players a chance to experience the game at the highest level. Test them out. Not to mention tie them to England for the future!
with regard to Paolo Odogwu; I think Regulation 8 applies, so its playing not paying. https://www.world.rugby/wr-resources/WorldRugbyDIR/Handbook/English/pubData/source/files/Regulation8.pdf
Agreed but he'll likely get his chance in the US in the Summer (if, it goes ahead etc etc), I feel for Wasps tho, I'd be p*ssed if a Falcon had been called up and not picked and missed all our matches. I still think it was too early for him, his defence looks like it needs lots of improvement but he fits EJ's bill big time as a Manu replacement
Daly is a better 13 than Odogwu. If he's good enough he will get his time this Summer. Maybe he is injured. Or not training well.
Well we will probably lose Odogwu to Italy and I can see Randall with Wales but to be honest all EJ has to do is see out the next two years he’s not really bothered about building for the future,how many more good players will we lose because Jones won’t give them a chance.As for Daly when was the last serious game he had at centre?
Being in the squad will have helped him to develop as a player so not at all disrespectful. He was unlikely to start but will have benefited from being part of an international training camp.
You do know he has earnt £15,000 everytime he sits in the stands not involved with the matchday team?
I very much doubt Odogwu himself is as upset as some of the people in the forum are haha!!!
I very much doubt Odogwu himself is as upset as some of the people in the forum are haha!!!
Not disrespectful at all. If he's not impressed in training, he wont be picked. International caps aren't given willy nilly. It will encourage him to become a better player and stand a better chance of selection next time.
You never know, maybe Eddie has been watching Odogwu in training. and considered him not ready. If this means he opts for Italy then fair enough. More likely he will work on his game and hope to play for England when he's ready which would be great.
Alternatively you could see it as a young player getting exposure to the international set up? I think he's probably happy and proud of the situation
FFS Eddie we can't win it, go with someone different we have nothing to lose but everything to gain, serves you right if he disappears off to play for Italy still it would give you an excuse to bring another SH reject
He should have at least got SOME game time. Even against Italy maybe. Poor. Maybe Eddie can’t spell his name for the team sheet.
Hardly seems fair to play him for 5 minutes just to make sure he can't play for anyone else then never play him again - If he's not good enough to progress from training squad to the team then he might be better of playing for Italy - that way he gets to play some international rugby to tell his grand kids about
Odogwu will return to Wasps twice the player with all that experience training with Watson, May, Daly etc. Not a complete waste
Exactly.
Championship gone - chance to give a player experience (with the pressure effectively off).
Total waste of a golden opportunity.
Championship gone - chance to give a player experience (with the pressure effectively off).
Total waste of a golden opportunity.
Odogwu ? ..a good ingleesh name ha ha
yup, another young player confused and disillusioned by the 'privilege' of getting into the Eng camp...
I couldn't agree more. So frustrating to see so much young talent (too many to name but we all know who) withering on the vine. Trouble is the win v France gives Eddie the told you so attitude that's been holding England back. Let's not forget it was a narrow win secured with less than 3 minutes to play albeit against a superb France side. We could be doing so much better with some imagination
This is surely not the strongest team England could have picked, EJ what have you done???? Ireland will win by a lot.
Really? Who is missing from the match day squad and who would you drop?
If England beat Ireland and France beat Wales (which they will) then England will be remembered as the champions in this odd year of the Six Nations.
Think it’s universally accepted that top of the table gets remembered as champions!
How? England win with a Bonus point = 15, Wales are already on 19, only France or Wales can win the championship (France need 2 x bonus point wins)
How did you work that out? Not possible for England to be champions.
illogical reasoning at best
Buddy, you are literally the saddest keyboard warrior I've read comment from. Talk to your mates, have a beer and enjoy your life.
France have yet to play Scotland which you forgotten about, so how could England become champions if France beat Wales and then beat Scotland - Did you miss your expresso this morning?
England champions? Please explain.........alternatively can I have a pint of whatever you've been drinking?
So two players playing at centre, that aren't centres. Makes perfect sense....
Hmmm, Daly is a centre, played at 13 for Wasps. he has been playing out of position at Full back.
Daly is a centre ...
Daly played outside centre for his most successful club period with Wasps.
Its his best position imo.
Its his best position imo.
That's the point mate, Daly IS a centre. He always was, Jones just did his thing of playing him out of position where he's been, quite frankly, dire. Not sure if it's the correct decision but let's see what happens. Billy is more of a concern to me with Earls on the bench again when he would be more that useful against Ireland.
Daly has always been the most obvious outside centre to everybody except Jones. If you think Daly isn't a centre you shouldn't be on this site.
I thought Daly looked far better when he came on last week. That said he not an international full back and it will be good to see what he does in his actual position now he’s been given the chance
How many games has he actually played at 13? My guess would be not actually that many?
The answer is 4 (out of 54). Not sure that's enough evidence to state that his best position would be 13
Really? What would you have done?
True but Marchant has been showing great form since his NZ sejour and was unlucky not to get a call earlier. Jones selection always bizarre and illogical.
Unfortunately.. a sad reflection of EJ muddled selection thinking... pick a guy then dump them..
I don't. I hope Eddies caps him asap
So much weaker looking without Tuilagi, Nowell, Simmonds and now Slade! No panic just yet. 2.5 years from the showpiece tournament.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
Any team would miss Tuilagi. Slade and Nowell are both great players but we have other quality options although I'd have preferred to see Lawrence rather than Daly at 13.
I prefer to watch the best rugby each year, not just every 4 years
Not sure that this will do much for Lawrence's confidence.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
I think his defence may be less of an issue at 13 especially if he is used to blitz from 13 as Slade was. I agree he's out of his depth at FB in defence. He looked good in attack when he came on last week.
Henshaw will waltz through our centre field, you watch, neither of them can tackle
I'd like to see that too but it won't happen unless we're are miles clear of Ireland and we won't be.
what is the point of having Lawrence in the squad
I thought Daly looked far better when he came on last week. That said he not an international full back and it will be good to see what he does in his actual position now he’s been given the chance
If we lose Odogwu to Italy we only have Eddie to blame. Unbelievable having him in the bubble all this time only for someone else to come in who fulfils the same role.
Great talent
Surprised not even a bench against Italy at the very minimum
Surprised not even a bench against Italy at the very minimum
I'm hoping the £75K he earnt will keep him interested(!), and that EJ has made clear he will get his opportunity on the next England tour
Will he really go to Italy?! Pulls on that shirt and gets pumped every week over a possible 10 yr career with England that he’s so close too?
Exactly and to the bores suggesting his defence is suspect please note LRZ's performances for Wales this 6N. They know his attacking abilities more than make up for any defensive frailties plus his defence can be coached and will develop WITH EXPERIENCE! Clearly Wales appreciate the value of attacking flair. From a frustrated England fan
Daly back in his most natural position.
Got to feel for Odogwu. Holds tackle bags for 10 weeks. I wonder what Blackett thinks.
Got to feel for Odogwu. Holds tackle bags for 10 weeks. I wonder what Blackett thinks.
Well if we,re honest he,s been made to look a fool at FB & that,s the fault of the coach. Decent replacement for Slade, hope je can remember how to play there.
Yep, got to feel sorry for him, he has spent the last 10 weeks training and only has £75k to show for it.
Bet he would rather be working as a nurse in the NHS.
Bet he would rather be working as a nurse in the NHS.
I hope Daly shines in the position in which he should have been selected from the outset, but I feel sorry for Odogwu.
If we’d lost a prop Jones would have put Daly in. Seems to be operating a closed shop.
A closed shop of a bubble - correct. People are not meant to be interchangeable in a bubble during a global pandemic, how observant of you
Ridiculous comment, Daly's natural position is 13, I fail to see the controversy behind it?
No space for Sam Simmons again!
That’s not surprising. It would have been very peculiar if they parachuted someone in from outside the bubble 48 hours before kick off.
I’ve always liked Daly at 13, but Eddie does have a pattern of shifting position of the key established players rather than bringing in new faces: Faz to 12, Curry to 8, Itoje / Lawes to 6 and now Daly to 13. I’m not saying that these decisions were all wrong, but it does support the argument that certain players have a gold card.
I agree in principle, except if you ask CL he will tell you he is a 6, who can play SR,
Daly is hopeless at 13. I've been watching him for years and his lateral running lines are a curse for the attacking shape of the back division...and don't get me going on his defensive frailties. If anything, Daly is a winger.
1 good performance out of 4 is simple not good enough. Even if we win on Saturday massive question marks still surround the captaincy, out attack, our discipline and 8, 9, 10, 12, 15.
Are you implying 13 has been solved with Daly starting there??
1 out of 4, we were terrible against Scotland and cheated, (whether we would have won no one knows, but the game was ruined), versus Wales, Italy who knows/cares and France pretty good. Fill you glass past the half pint line mate
No space for Sam Simmons again!
So much weaker looking without Tuilagi, Nowell, Simmonds and now Slade! No panic just yet. 2.5 years from the showpiece tournament.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
i'd only miss Tuilagi if decoy runs and the odd bulldozer play was my only attacking pattern. Speed (of thought and action) and a bit of power at least makes for a different and more attractive rugby in my opinion ... which is why no Smith, S Simmonds and Odogwu is a real shame
Play for Italy I’d say ..like the rest conveyer belt of English talent that realise they’ll never get a game !
... well almost certainly train incredibly well, show that he is fit enough and that he has the flexibility to play as Jones wants him too on top of that he probably would have needed some "luck" in terms of injuries to promote him. He's an incredibly exciting player but you'd think he was the second coming rather than a good club player who's had a couple of exceptional games in the last season.
I thought Daly looked far better when he came on last week. That said he not an international full back and it will be good to see what he does in his actual position now he’s been given the chance
I'm talking about club rugby where I saw him week in week out for Wasps well before EJ started picking him as a wing/fullback. Speaking as someone who was a wing and latterly full back, the back 3 is more or less interchangeable. On the odd occasion I played centre, it was horrible - all the angles/decision making/space/ distribution wasn't natural. Same for Daly the other way round. Lets see
St Patrick's Day yesterday, and now the news that England are still ignoring Sam Simmonds for the match on Saturday ! What a great time to be Irish!
That's the point mate, Daly IS a centre. He always was, Jones just did his thing of playing him out of position where he's been, quite frankly, dire. Not sure if it's the correct decision but let's see what happens. Billy is more of a concern to me with Earls on the bench again when he would be more that useful against Ireland.
I'd love to find out if Lawrence is any good?
I'm not sure Lawrence is direct carrying option. He's not really that big and from what I've seen of him for Worcester, most of his line breaks are based more on speed and guile.
Agreed but with Farrell at inside centre Jones has ruled out any flexibility in his 3s. I don't believe you can have Farrell in that position and also use a Lawrence type centre on the outside. Fundamental issue for Jones who continuously backs himself into a corner with the Ford/Farrell axis. No room for manouevre...literally.
He is rubbish, but I think they will be still too strong for us even at home.
No space for Sam Simmons again!
So much weaker looking without Tuilagi, Nowell, Simmonds and now Slade! No panic just yet. 2.5 years from the showpiece tournament.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
Should be a great day of rugby on Saturday. What an impressive turnaround if Wales clinch a Grand Slam. Best of luck all.
yep me too but you won’t see the best version of England or any side with the more talented players injured.
Wales, shrewdly, took the losses last year and blooded new players. England for now are stuck selecting the same old.
Wales, shrewdly, took the losses last year and blooded new players. England for now are stuck selecting the same old.
I’m thinking wattson at full back, and daly and may as wingers. If Jack nowell was fit I would choose him in Daly’s place.
I'd have liked to see Nowell at Full Back, he was superb there for Exeter in 2019. Not sure it will ever happen now consistently with Hogg at Chiefs. Watson at 15, Nowell and May wing would be good.
So you'd pick a winger at full back, a centre on the wing and a winger at centre?
Bobble??
and Daly can't tackle, he does have a great outside break mind you
What has to happen before Jones does not select Daly?
He's not impressed at his fist choice position of Full Back so there's even less chance of him excelling at Centre.
Ireland will be licking their lips at the prospect!
Makes one wonder if Daly has something over Jones??
He's not impressed at his fist choice position of Full Back so there's even less chance of him excelling at Centre.
Ireland will be licking their lips at the prospect!
Makes one wonder if Daly has something over Jones??
Will all you people calling for this, that or the other player to be picked, please remember that EJ can only select from the 28 players in the bubble.
And don't forget that Aussie p***k selected the said 28 bubble......leaving out better players and players who were in form...
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So pick Ben Earle at 13. That would give Henshaw something to think about, not laugh about
I'm intrigued to know how Scotland were able to call up Skinner into their squad.
Rubbish - he called up Marchant who has played for Quinn during 6N. It’s a question of won’t not can’t with Eddie
Clearly not the case with Marchant's selection. Not a hard and fast rule as Ewels was originally shadow
Players have been called in to the 28 like Sinckler at the start so Eddie could call others up
Rubbish. Joe Marchant wasn’t in the bubble if 28 players. He’s come from nowhere. Eddie Jones is a stubborn pig-head who doesn’t like to take advice or criticism from anyone. Very thin-skinned.
No he can't.
Joe Marchant is only 24, he's actually younger than Odogwu. So surely this is giving a chance to a young player?
Daly started life as a centre and a bloody good one. I'm afraid I'm more concerned about Farrell.
We haven't won anything and haven't developed anything this tournament. I'm a Ford fan but he's been a shadow of his former self... We have no successor at 9 10 11 12 13 or 15. All of whom are either nowhere near the best in their position in the premiership or are playing way off form. I just can't see what Jones is trying to achieve. Only watson is in any form at the moment.
No space for Sam Simmons again!
That's the point mate, Daly IS a centre. He always was, Jones just did his thing of playing him out of position where he's been, quite frankly, dire. Not sure if it's the correct decision but let's see what happens. Billy is more of a concern to me with Earls on the bench again when he would be more that useful against Ireland.
To be honest it's not the ideal selection and a bit of a back-stab to the three guys in the squad that could have played there. Having said that I'd rather see Daly in the centre than Slade. Never understood people's love affair with him. Can't remember ever seeing him have a good match in an England shirt and last week he was a liability.
So instead of striving to improve to get in the side they bugger off to another country.
Who would want to play for Italy, 28 straight loses? TBH Italy fortunate the contract says they have to stay in the competition. Really the place should be offered to another 'emerging' nation, Georgia/Romania maybe.
It's becoming a joke this. Daly will be at no 8 next! He's past it. Why are Simmonds (x2), Marcus Smith, Big Joe etc not being picked????
Yawwwwwwwwn - because they are not in the squad - blimey this has been more than well documented...
Totally agree, at this rate the British Lions are going to include English players ( back row and midfield ) who cant get a game for England
Because they are not good enough for test Rugby in the coaches opinion - I am certain that Eddie Jones like him or loathe him wants to win matches and picks the team that HE thinks will win not the team WE think will win - he has had Marcus Smith, and Sam Simmonds and Dumbrandt in a few camps and for whatever reason he doesnt fancy them
Assuming by "Big Joe" you mean Marler, because he chose not to accept selection in order to stay out of the bubble with his pregnant wife and kids.
As for Sam Simmonds, good as he is, realistically he's too light to play between Curry & Underhill (both also relatively light and mobile) vs Chiefs' bruiser flankers, and Eddie doesn't want to replace the whole back row just to fit him in.
As for Sam Simmonds, good as he is, realistically he's too light to play between Curry & Underhill (both also relatively light and mobile) vs Chiefs' bruiser flankers, and Eddie doesn't want to replace the whole back row just to fit him in.
Such a tiresome comment, it's been the same on this forum week in week out since January. Sam Simmonds is clearly not deemed an international player. If he was, he would have been selected after his form over the last 2 seasons or so. Daly's prime position is 13, I fail to see the controversy behind it. Just get behind the team and support them regardless of omissions/selections
Because me you, Dallaglio, numerous ex-players plus the media are telling Eddie to pick them. And he knows best. Small mans syndrome.
Joe Cokanasiga's defence is suspect. (Yes, I know Daly is no Sam Underhill either)
Will all you people calling for this, that or the other player to be picked, please remember that EJ can only select from the 28 players in the bubble.
Not sure that this will do much for Lawrence's confidence.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
Not sure that this will do much for Lawrence's confidence.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
In attack Daly was good last week but his defence this season has been a revolving door. Personally I think it's a mistake.
I would like to see Lawrence and Marchant at 12 and 13 later in the game though.
Will all you people calling for this, that or the other player to be picked, please remember that EJ can only select from the 28 players in the bubble.
Or Sam Simmonds even.
Earl and Simmonds as a centre partnership would be interesting!
Earl and Simmonds as a centre partnership would be interesting!
To be honest it's not the ideal selection and a bit of a back-stab to the three guys in the squad that could have played there. Having said that I'd rather see Daly in the centre than Slade. Never understood people's love affair with him. Can't remember ever seeing him have a good match in an England shirt and last week he was a liability.
The answer is 4 (out of 54). Not sure that's enough evidence to state that his best position would be 13
I'm talking about club rugby where I saw him week in week out for Wasps well before EJ started picking him as a wing/fullback. Speaking as someone who was a wing and latterly full back, the back 3 is more or less interchangeable. On the odd occasion I played centre, it was horrible - all the angles/decision making/space/ distribution wasn't natural. Same for Daly the other way round. Lets see
And don't forget that Aussie p***k selected the said 28 bubble......leaving out better players and players who were in form...
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Its where he should be playing as its his best position.
I’ve always liked Daly at 13, but Eddie does have a pattern of shifting position of the key established players rather than bringing in new faces: Faz to 12, Curry to 8, Itoje / Lawes to 6 and now Daly to 13. I’m not saying that these decisions were all wrong, but it does support the argument that certain players have a gold card.
If I asked him and he told me that then I wouldn’t be foolish enough to argue with him!
What are you talking about? Lawes is a second row who can play at 6. He certainly doesn't see himself as a 6 over a lock.
totally agree and if you look at the way Itoje plays - he plays like a backrow in any case - so yes best to play him at second row cause he does his SR job as well as the BR job -the ability to do this is rare and should be celebrated in my opinion
Don't forget now guys....."In Eddie we trust" is the mantra.
I'm English (for rugby only, otherwise I'm British) but I think Ireland will beat England in a close game. The Irish team have some excellent players and I think their desire to win will be greater than ours. Also, we still have Farrell, Youngs and the Vunipolas in the team! Farrell and Young are just not good enough and the Vunipolas are past their best. They are burnt out.
I believe this is Daly's natural position but we will see.
Will all you people calling for this, that or the other player to be picked, please remember that EJ can only select from the 28 players in the bubble.
Not sure how EJ ended up with having to limit himself to 28 players ..... no other country did.
Maybe ask the Premiership clubs or RFU ?
Plenty players in the other countries were getting game time when not in match day 23.
Skinner might have had more game time for Scotland but had to return for club games in fallow weeks so that limited time in squad
Maybe ask the Premiership clubs or RFU ?
Plenty players in the other countries were getting game time when not in match day 23.
Skinner might have had more game time for Scotland but had to return for club games in fallow weeks so that limited time in squad
No such thing in 6 nations
Completely agree! A shameful way to treat a young player. Hope he gives Eddie two fingers and heads off to play for Italy
I wonder if Daley has learned to catch a rugby ball since the Wales game, personally I have little confidence in him as an international rugby player, he certainly lacks the silky skills of Slade. Jones is still not looking ahead to the next World Cup, half these guys will be turning up with zimmer frames!!
I've always thought outside centre was his best position, at least it was at Wasps. He was so good at arcing runs from first-phase ball. Sadly, he's been sub-par for England for a while now.
Feel bad for Odogwu, who has been used as a tackling bag all 6N. A crying shame that there has been so little new talent blooded - surely have to build up towards the next World Cup?
Feel bad for Odogwu, who has been used as a tackling bag all 6N. A crying shame that there has been so little new talent blooded - surely have to build up towards the next World Cup?
How many games has he actually played at 13? My guess would be not actually that many?
Elliot Daly is a liability. Lacks concentration, makes poor decisions. I'll be taking bets with my mates at the rugby club on the number of missed tackles and dropped passes he's responsible for before he gets hooked. Poor decision to select him in the centre.
Picking a bloke who was on form 4 years ago is Jones's trouble. Daly has been very poor this 6 Nations, in fact he has been very poor for a while now for England.
Yeah funny that. He was also brilliant at 13 for Wasps. I'm sure Angry Beast's "mates" will enjoy taking his money off him.
2017 was 4 years ago... He was playing well then. He's been poor for a good 18 months now... And most times he gets the ball he gives it to the opposition or gives away a penalty or passes it to the floor
On the wing where he doesn't have to think. And 4 years ago when he was a different player, and in form. Rory Underwood played well 30 years ago but we're not picking him.
The answer is 4 (out of 54). Not sure that's enough evidence to state that his best position would be 13
Cant england find an actual centre... It must be dissheartening for players who are doing well in the club game.
There is nothing on the match... Playing for 3rd or 4th place. Hardly matters.
Centre is a very weak area for England anyway, so nothing to lose by trying someone new.
Its likley that they wont have time to integrate into the squad...
There is nothing on the match... Playing for 3rd or 4th place. Hardly matters.
Centre is a very weak area for England anyway, so nothing to lose by trying someone new.
Its likley that they wont have time to integrate into the squad...
What has to happen before Jones does not select Daly?
He's not impressed at his fist choice position of Full Back so there's even less chance of him excelling at Centre.
Ireland will be licking their lips at the prospect!
Makes one wonder if Daly has something over Jones??
He's not impressed at his fist choice position of Full Back so there's even less chance of him excelling at Centre.
Ireland will be licking their lips at the prospect!
Makes one wonder if Daly has something over Jones??
When did he last play there?
Play for Italy I’d say ..like the rest conveyer belt of English talent that realise they’ll never get a game !
If I was young & playing outstandingly well but not getting picked I might look at what’s happened with Simmons brothers, Marcus Smith & a few previous winners of European player of the year but not getting a sniff of an England cap. Like or loathe him, one thing is obvious if eddie doesn’t think you fit into his game plan it doesn’t matter how much you “strive” or improve you don’t get a sniff.
I’ve always liked Daly at 13, but Eddie does have a pattern of shifting position of the key established players rather than bringing in new faces: Faz to 12, Curry to 8, Itoje / Lawes to 6 and now Daly to 13. I’m not saying that these decisions were all wrong, but it does support the argument that certain players have a gold card.
Cant england find an actual centre... It must be dissheartening for players who are doing well in the club game.
There is nothing on the match... Playing for 3rd or 4th place. Hardly matters.
Centre is a very weak area for England anyway, so nothing to lose by trying someone new.
Its likley that they wont have time to integrate into the squad...
There is nothing on the match... Playing for 3rd or 4th place. Hardly matters.
Centre is a very weak area for England anyway, so nothing to lose by trying someone new.
Its likley that they wont have time to integrate into the squad...
Let's face it, the Ireland game would have been the perfect opportunity to 'blood' players who were in the bubble but have been ignored so far. The game is meaningless in terms of the 6n championship. It was time to take a look at those who could step up. EJ needs to think more clearly.
its good to know you are more knowledgeable than Eddie. Id give him quick call if I were you. The time to blood new players is on this Summers tour. Randall Odogwu etc will get their chance then
Possibly. It could also be argued that EJ needs England to win to ensure he keeps his job. 3 losses in the 6N might not be tolerated
This game is the difference between 3rd and 5th - we don't want to end up like Wales who either win it or crash and burn. Consistency of performance and selection required. Would give PO a game though otherwise will be lost to another nation!