Economic outlook 'unusually uncertain' despite 'rapid' vaccine rollout
18/03/2021 | news | business | 917
Bank of England says a rebound is likely in 2021, but it still depends on the "evolution of the pandemic".
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18/03/2021 13:29:24 365 97
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Copy and paste for every other country in the World!

Thank goodness our incredible vaccine roll-out gives us a better chance than many others.
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18/03/2021 13:58:20 155 40
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Exactly.
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18/03/2021 13:58:35 50 42
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I agree. The sooner we can see & understand the negative impact Brexit has had on our economy, & whether it’s in line with the -4% GDP impact from govt figures, the better. For too long the consequences have been swept under the CV19 carpet.
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18/03/2021 13:59:26 71 73
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Not every country in the world has committed economic suicide by voting for Brexit. Wake up!
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18/03/2021 14:17:23 34 12
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Agreed. Although you cannot deny that China are the real winners here unless they are somehow finally held to account.
Their values and culture are exactly the best tools needed to quash a pandemic, yet those same qualities caused the pandemic in the first place, as well as "justify" outrageous human rights violations.
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18/03/2021 14:20:45 26 22
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Vast majority of inoculations have been single dose, though. How long will it take to achieve double dose and real immunity for everyone?
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18/03/2021 14:42:22 16 6
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No, that’s just what the British press are saying to try and level the field and avoid the finger being pointed at these clowns in government. Unless you’re a The Sun, Mail and Express reader you can’t help but notice this SARS virus has little to do with the poor economic performance of the UK, but it’s being used as a cover for a myriad of social and economic problems
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And don't forget our wonderful Track & Trace!
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18/03/2021 16:11:04 2 1
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Pay attention. Do you understand economics? Cheezus.
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18/03/2021 16:20:28 1 0
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apart from wales
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18/03/2021 17:13:51 2 0
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Actually the UK was worse affected both by deaths as well as effect on business.
And compare to other places in the Far East which dealt better and quicker with the pandemic such as China, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, Australia & New Zealand.
And some of them have controlled the virus so well, they do not need to rush a vaccine roll out and China can export vaccines as well.
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18/03/2021 18:11:44 1 0
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Simplistic and wrong. ONS gives an estimate that the loss of growth due to the pandemic is exceeded by the loss of growth due to Brexit by FIFTY Percent. So we are worse than every other country in the world by your measure as we have the double whammy of pandemic and Brexit, with Brexit delivering the more severe financial blow.
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18/03/2021 22:15:26 1 0
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@You

I guess the most stupid thing to do in time like this would be to part company with a huge trade partner and go it alone
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That depends. If all you're interested in is in stoking the population into hating others, and pretending you're ok because you're superior to them - just like in Orwell's 1984 - then you don't care about the actual consequences in terms of wellbeing - just like in 1984
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19/03/2021 11:56:23 0 0
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Troll; shame about just about everthing else; leaving UK with a hugh hit to thje economy and massive borrowing. Still dumb supprters of the current leadership are unable to see beyond a blue rosette.... little changes
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19/03/2021 16:51:44 0 0
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Agreed, but you can't ignore the total incompetence of Boris and the Tories shutting down too late on 3 occasions causing the deaths of many more people than it should have.

Blood on their hands
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18/03/2021 13:29:45 70 17
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They just don't know. Impossible to make predictions in current situation. They usually get ut wrong.
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18/03/2021 14:23:00 40 3
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Things will get better, but it will take a long time. See, easy.
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18/03/2021 15:38:56 1 1
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All they mean by "uncertain" is that it's harder to predict than normal.
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18/03/2021 15:41:22 2 1
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That’s dumb, there’s always data we can look at and make obvious assessments of what’s coming next. The gov and BoE know but they have a vested interest in keeping people calm
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18/03/2021 13:30:16 43 43
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And we know why - we just ripped up a trade deal that was the envy of the world for a heap of magic beans and hollow promises - no wonder the majority now wish we'd never left the EU - and that's even with the vaccine issue!
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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18/03/2021 13:36:32 13 7
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move on Phil, even the Labour Party are pretending to
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18/03/2021 13:50:30 11 6
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What majority? I'd like to see your evidence as opposed to hysterical shouting at the end of Downing St.
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18/03/2021 14:35:33 0 2
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Running a huge trade deficit (circa 800BN) over decades is not the envy of the world. Look around you, it’s leads to high debt and low productivity, clearly you have zero idea what you are talking about.
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18/03/2021 13:32:35 284 93
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The damage has already been done through a year of lockdown and the full impact of Brexit has not yet been felt by many businesses who have been kept in a suspended zombie state through government bail outs.
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18/03/2021 14:14:05 92 248
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Despite the success of the vaccine roll out the government is refusing to accelerate the lifting of restrictions to keep pace. Therefore creating untold damage to the economy and society.
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18/03/2021 14:16:33 28 60
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It's unfortunate for doom mongers like you that brexit didn't turned out to be that much of a disaster. Wipe your eyes.

Pandemic is the only thing affecting our economy by greater percentage now. We will come out of the pandemic more stronger than ever
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18/03/2021 14:27:34 19 27
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Give it a rest already. There was no cliff edge. You might be less pessimistic outside of your cocoon.
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18/03/2021 14:29:34 34 2
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I just hope after summer when the vaccination is completed, we are back to near normal, and we finally begin to feel the effects of Brexit, that those effects are the positive ones we were all promised.

I am very skeptical, but hope I'm wrong. I will also happily apologize for doubting the Brexiteers if things turn our well.
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18/03/2021 14:37:29 12 12
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Always someone has to mention the "B" word
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Brexiteer politicians and sales people must think they've landed in heaven! There is no hope now of disentangling the economic downturn from Brexit from that of the pandemic.
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19/03/2021 11:50:42 0 1
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The full impact of Brexit will be positive over the longer term.
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18/03/2021 13:33:11 21 8
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The Bank of England’s policies have a profound effect on all our lives, but they don’t seem to be getting much scrutiny, beyond occasional appearances infront of the Treasury Select Committee and the odd media report questioning them.

Better scrutiny should question them leaving the money printer running like they have, reconsidering their proposals if doing more harm than good.
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18/03/2021 13:30:16 43 43
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And we know why - we just ripped up a trade deal that was the envy of the world for a heap of magic beans and hollow promises - no wonder the majority now wish we'd never left the EU - and that's even with the vaccine issue!
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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18/03/2021 13:42:00 9 10
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A few - but that's a short-term issue; the lasting economic impact - particularly on youth employment and the damage to GDP as the City of London loses its pre-eminence - will be with us until we inevitably return - on poorer terms than we left
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18/03/2021 13:46:55 4 12
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"After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left."

The EU are pissed that the UK has imported 10M doses of their vaccines and won't export any of ours. Our "world-beating" vaccine roll out has been 50% manufactured in the EU and India, now we'll be reliant on the vaccines we can produce for ourselves.
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18/03/2021 13:54:03 7 6
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No, that's just a poor deflection from Bojo's inept Covid policies. No wonder he wants to avoid the scrutiny of an inquiry,
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18/03/2021 13:55:07 5 9
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Not proud that we are taking vaccine from India who probably need it more than us.
For god's sake!!!!
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18/03/2021 13:30:16 43 43
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And we know why - we just ripped up a trade deal that was the envy of the world for a heap of magic beans and hollow promises - no wonder the majority now wish we'd never left the EU - and that's even with the vaccine issue!
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18/03/2021 13:36:32 13 7
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move on Phil, even the Labour Party are pretending to
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18/03/2021 14:28:30 3 2
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Lol - true - but sadly the country can’t move on - it’s going to be saddled with the consequences for years - and as more young people realise that their friend with an Irish gran has better job prospects than they have so the desire to rejoin will keep growing
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18/03/2021 13:38:59 10 12
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With the BoE (rightly) printing cash like there was no tomorrow - its a relief to many that we didn't have to ask 'The ECB' (aka Germany) if we could be allowed to exceed the ''Stability & Growth Pact''

The BoE did us proud!

(Please no lectures on being bankrupt paying it back for decades (what's your solution? borrow from ECB/Euro?) - its just the same as they did in WW2 - that worked out OK)
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18/03/2021 14:14:12 1 2
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Good tag name.

Anyone heard from Pay Birmingham recently ?
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18/03/2021 13:40:01 121 77
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When you knackered a significant part of the economy with Brexit how did you expect it to work out?

You've got to laugh at the fishermen. Stupid enough to believe Farage when he never turned up to represent them! Now left wondering what to do with all the fish and shellfish they can't export to the EU any longer. They voted to be excluded from their biggest market and their best customers!
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18/03/2021 13:51:22 106 31
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The fish only represent a tiny fraction of the economy, which is why fishermen were betrayed - though anyone with two neurons to rub together could have seen THAT coming.

The 40% drop in EU trade and the cost of that is far more worrying. The UK seems to have solved the problem of frictionless trade with the EU by simply having no trade. No trade, no friction...
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18/03/2021 14:28:23 29 3
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...and Farage is gone now. Cheerio, and thanks for all the ... EU pension. Hypocrite...and worse.
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18/03/2021 14:40:32 4 3
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If you have a surplus try reducing the price, that's how supply and demand works.
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18/03/2021 17:37:05 5 0
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But the fish are happy...
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They could sell it to British supermarkets..Tell them.
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19/03/2021 12:49:57 0 0
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We all yawn at the weakness of the left. No foresight and scared of change. Must be genetic.
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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18/03/2021 13:42:00 9 10
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A few - but that's a short-term issue; the lasting economic impact - particularly on youth employment and the damage to GDP as the City of London loses its pre-eminence - will be with us until we inevitably return - on poorer terms than we left
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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18/03/2021 13:46:55 4 12
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"After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left."

The EU are pissed that the UK has imported 10M doses of their vaccines and won't export any of ours. Our "world-beating" vaccine roll out has been 50% manufactured in the EU and India, now we'll be reliant on the vaccines we can produce for ourselves.
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18/03/2021 16:44:56 2 0
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They are not "their vaccines". The Pfizer vaccines are from a contract signed by the UK Government and a private (actually listed) multinational company, that happens to have that plant in Belgium.

Contracts for a vaccine that the UK approved early and signed contracts for early. Hence why the EU's attempt to block exports by a US company fulfilling its contract is bang out of order.
Thank God we didn't elect that Corbyn bloke though Removed
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18/03/2021 13:50:11 31 3
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We didn't elect the Bank Governor either, who's tainted history is coming to light.
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18/03/2021 13:54:59 12 2
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124'000 dead, country is in a mess. Boris signed a Brexit deal that he didn't understand and you are crowing about Corbyn? Typical deflection.
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18/03/2021 13:58:00 9 0
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Response of a 5 year old.
Country wasn't ready for a Marxist anti-semite. Removed
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18/03/2021 14:15:55 6 1
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Almost first thing every morning, I think I really wish Jeremy Corbyn had been elected.
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I think the government has now spent more than Corbyn ever planned to by a large amount.
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I wonder if the 125,000 dead people agree with you?
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18/03/2021 13:49:51 21 19
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Over Brexit we are currently 10-1 down and in extra time.

The trouble is that some keep harping on about the one goal scored and how fortunate that if we had chosen the other possible captain we would have been 12-1 down
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18/03/2021 13:49:54 99 35
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Another piece of government-induced PR to make us all think that the future is bright. People, get a grip, we/you are going to have to pay for this through increased taxes/VAT/ whatever. Unless you’re rich enough to be able to buy into tax avoidance schemes, in which case you don’t give a toss.....
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18/03/2021 17:02:10 7 2
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I'll wait for out-turns and disregard the politically spun forecasts.
Thank God we didn't elect that Corbyn bloke though Removed
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18/03/2021 13:50:11 31 3
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We didn't elect the Bank Governor either, who's tainted history is coming to light.
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18/03/2021 13:30:16 43 43
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And we know why - we just ripped up a trade deal that was the envy of the world for a heap of magic beans and hollow promises - no wonder the majority now wish we'd never left the EU - and that's even with the vaccine issue!
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18/03/2021 13:50:30 11 6
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What majority? I'd like to see your evidence as opposed to hysterical shouting at the end of Downing St.
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18/03/2021 13:40:01 14 23
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Why cant people be upbeat for a change. i`m sick and fed up of the BBC, newspapers, the labour party the S.N.P. constantly trying to derail anything and everything its moan moan moan.
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18/03/2021 13:53:56 13 5
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Calm down Dave these are terrible times but blaming media outlets for it might make you feel better. Personally I have had it up to here with a failed journalist running the country who is not fit in my opinion to deal with the complexities of Brexit and a Pandemic.
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18/03/2021 13:55:00 2 1
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Remove head from ar... Sand.
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18/03/2021 13:55:23 4 2
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Dave the Tory apologist
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18/03/2021 13:59:07 5 1
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I say.

But it is hard when we are suffering the two big hurdles of Covid and a crap Conservative government.
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18/03/2021 13:51:07 97 21
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Not sure we should trust Mr Bailey's analysis in light of recent revelations.
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Whereas you would trust Bojo despite his past misdemeanours being common knowledge for years?
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18/03/2021 14:50:59 9 6
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Strangely it is not the Governor of the Bank of England who does the analysis and writes the reports. But why spoil a needless barb?
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18/03/2021 15:16:27 8 5
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The BOE and FCA are a huge part of the problems we are facing now. Don't forget Covid is only 20% of debt.

Cheap Money
Bailed out stocks
Pumped up house prices
Money Laundering Capital of The World.

What a great job they have done these past 2 decades.
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18/03/2021 13:40:01 121 77
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When you knackered a significant part of the economy with Brexit how did you expect it to work out?

You've got to laugh at the fishermen. Stupid enough to believe Farage when he never turned up to represent them! Now left wondering what to do with all the fish and shellfish they can't export to the EU any longer. They voted to be excluded from their biggest market and their best customers!
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18/03/2021 13:51:22 106 31
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The fish only represent a tiny fraction of the economy, which is why fishermen were betrayed - though anyone with two neurons to rub together could have seen THAT coming.

The 40% drop in EU trade and the cost of that is far more worrying. The UK seems to have solved the problem of frictionless trade with the EU by simply having no trade. No trade, no friction...
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18/03/2021 13:56:43 32 4
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They were only "betrayed" in that they were told Brexit was the answer to all their problems, where it was bleedin' obvious to everyone else that losing access to your biggest market is an extremely bad idea.

There was no way that leaving the SM could turn out anything other than catastrophic for UK fishers.
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18/03/2021 13:57:12 7 5
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And yet trade with the rest of the world was unaffected, it's almost as if companies were stockpiling ahead of 1st Jan and didn't need to import anything.
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18/03/2021 18:13:33 0 3
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Yawn ...get over it.
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18/03/2021 13:51:40 35 14
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The pandemic has proved all these proclaimed experts haven't really got a clue when things get tough. Another 2 years of muddling through until things drop back to semi normal and so called experts can get 15% right again.
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18/03/2021 14:03:45 32 7
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I'm not sure that after 2 years we will have repaid the vast sums borrowed or even paid the interest on that amount without significant tax increases or spending cuts. Nor will we have created enough jobs to compensate for those lost. Back to semi normal? only if you can move your money and assets around the globe easily and can decide what tax you want to pay, if any.
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18/03/2021 15:20:24 5 0
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They didn't have a clue pre Covid hence the state of countries finances.

Drop taxes, increase house prices, get voted in let whoever gets caught eventually with tackling the fundamental issues carry the can, it wont be them though.
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It's not the experts eg. economists, scientists but the useless politicians.
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18/03/2021 13:51:47 84 58
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Brace yourself for 4 more years of economic underachievement. Rejoining the SM & CU will be the key issue for parties at the next election.
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18/03/2021 13:55:36 63 49
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Indeed - the party the proposes it will lose the election.
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That’s probably what the Opposition will try and do and then wonder why they haven’t been elected again
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18/03/2021 13:59:50 18 15
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Correct. And when it slowly dawns on them that they were lied to and they are becoming poorer. Oh hold on it a minute. We can sign a trade deal with Uganda?
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18/03/2021 14:05:14 17 24
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Brace yourself for endless pointless bitter moaning from bitter remoaner losers. Its ok, with Von Liar as the unelected El Presidente of the Junta - she is even worse than Junker !!

Rejoin ? - ha well at least you have some sense of humour in that respect.
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hahahahahahahaha!!!
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18/03/2021 14:24:32 7 8
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Not going to happnen.
You've learned nothing over the last few years have you?
Actually, you knew nothing pre 2016 either.
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18/03/2021 17:52:52 0 0
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no, you can fool some of the people some of the time. 10 years of failing (or less likely good) performance will be needed.
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18/03/2021 13:40:01 14 23
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Why cant people be upbeat for a change. i`m sick and fed up of the BBC, newspapers, the labour party the S.N.P. constantly trying to derail anything and everything its moan moan moan.
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18/03/2021 13:53:56 13 5
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Calm down Dave these are terrible times but blaming media outlets for it might make you feel better. Personally I have had it up to here with a failed journalist running the country who is not fit in my opinion to deal with the complexities of Brexit and a Pandemic.
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Quite right!
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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18/03/2021 13:54:03 7 6
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No, that's just a poor deflection from Bojo's inept Covid policies. No wonder he wants to avoid the scrutiny of an inquiry,
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18/03/2021 13:54:20 20 18
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Brexit can't hide behind covid forever.

The truth is leaking out. Truck numbers back to normal my aunt. Been shopping recently Mr Gove, seen the gaps in the supermarket shelves ?
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18/03/2021 13:55:18 18 6
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No gaps in any supermarket I've been in.
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No gaps here either!
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Nope. No gaps here. I struggled to find fresh olives and Brie for a day or two over Christmas.
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18/03/2021 13:54:48 13 13
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Not a mention of the real drag on the economy in the longer term, Brexit. It's already having an effect (has anyone noticed how many fewer European trucks there are on our roads today?) but it is disguised by Covid. As we emerge from Covid the brown smelly stuff will hit the spinning air circulator and spread far and wide.
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'Fewer European trucks'....... excellent news!
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Not sure we should trust Mr Bailey's analysis in light of recent revelations.
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Whereas you would trust Bojo despite his past misdemeanours being common knowledge for years?
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What misdemeanours?
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18/03/2021 14:21:19 28 6
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Johnson is a proven liar.
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Don't think they said that, did they?
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If you a member of a cult you never question it's leader.
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18/03/2021 14:31:17 25 8
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Has anyone noticed how much and frequently Hancock has started lying in the last 2 months.
Do you think he's got a private bet with BoJo to see who can get away with the biggest whopper?
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18/03/2021 14:58:08 14 22
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Every comment you make (and there is an astonishing volume of them) seems to be anti govt. or anti Brexit. You seem more than a bit obsessed. Or are you employed to do this?
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18/03/2021 15:35:47 3 3
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I wouldn't trust Bailey or Bojo. One day they'll be gone. It can't happen a day too soon.
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Boris is probably the most trusted PM worldwide.
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18/03/2021 13:54:52 42 30
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There's a lot of flag waving and finger pointing by the right wing.

EU ordered 400 million doses from AZ but AZ will only deliver around 40-50% on time.

How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?
None. The UK and AZ have in effect a 'defacto ban' on AZ vaccine exports until Gov orders are fulfilled.

How many vaccines made in EU have AZ and Pfizer exported to UK?
Tens of millions.
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18/03/2021 13:57:10 24 16
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And?
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18/03/2021 13:57:57 11 9
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If I were the EU, I'd be upset too.
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18/03/2021 14:07:54 14 10
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"How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?"

That's not country's decision. That's the private company's choice . They will decide on how much to export.

Vaccines manufactured in EU got exported because they ordered it late

Vaccines manufactured in UK was used in UK because we ordered it early

EU must stop poking its ugly lengthy nose in private company businesses
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18/03/2021 14:33:05 1 6
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Because the UK facilities are for the UK vaccines
And the EU facilities are for the EU supplies
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18/03/2021 14:55:30 6 3
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Be happy that we got enough vaccines. At least our government invested nerarly £2bn in vaccines manufacturing plants in the past year, the EU less than £1bn!
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18/03/2021 15:11:55 5 1
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The EU should not play politics with company contractual business. AZN has a contract with the UK gov which they were paid handsomely for up front. Once they have met that contract they can sell their vaccine where they want. The EU were 3 months behind the UK and did not subsidise the AZN investment (they wanted a contract based on best price). The UK gov had the foresight to do numerous deals..
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18/03/2021 15:37:37 3 0
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You’re a bit behind the curve on that debate. The UK and EU don’t own or export any vaccine production. Only the manufacturer exports to fulfil contracts. But unlike the hapless EU, the UK govt funded supply chain in the UK for a number of manufacturers so that their people would be protected. If other countries fail to protect their population, your anger should be directed at them.
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18/03/2021 13:54:53 3 4
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"get back at the end of this year to where it was at the end of 2019". That's better than being worse, let's not forget, doesn'y change the fact too many people are struggling on min wage, insecure jobs, inadequate benefits, NHS was underfunded for years before pandemic, we should be grateful?
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A more realistic estimate by the OECD is that UK will not get back to q4 2019 GDP until around the end of 2022.
Thank God we didn't elect that Corbyn bloke though Removed
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18/03/2021 13:54:59 12 2
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124'000 dead, country is in a mess. Boris signed a Brexit deal that he didn't understand and you are crowing about Corbyn? Typical deflection.
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18/03/2021 13:40:01 14 23
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Why cant people be upbeat for a change. i`m sick and fed up of the BBC, newspapers, the labour party the S.N.P. constantly trying to derail anything and everything its moan moan moan.
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18/03/2021 13:55:00 2 1
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Remove head from ar... Sand.
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18/03/2021 13:36:09 38 34
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After the way the EU have handled the vaccine situation I would imagine more people than beforehand are glad we left.
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Not proud that we are taking vaccine from India who probably need it more than us.
For god's sake!!!!
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India 115 Covid related deaths per million of population, UK 1,800.

So who needs it most???
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Countries do not manufacture vaccines - companies do.
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18/03/2021 17:02:05 1 0
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What are you gibbering about. We aren't 'taking' the vaccine from India, they are a major manufacturer and we have a contract to purchase from them. You will find that they are happy to have the business.
Plus you will remember that we have already arranged to donate the surplus vaccines that we have contracts for to poorer countries.
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18/03/2021 13:54:20 20 18
bbc
Brexit can't hide behind covid forever.

The truth is leaking out. Truck numbers back to normal my aunt. Been shopping recently Mr Gove, seen the gaps in the supermarket shelves ?
32
Hex
18/03/2021 13:55:18 18 6
bbc
No gaps in any supermarket I've been in.
63
18/03/2021 13:57:48 8 4
bbc
Nope - nor me.
65
18/03/2021 14:01:03 4 6
bbc
No, just prices increasing
70
18/03/2021 13:59:08 6 5
bbc
I haven't seen that either.
314
18/03/2021 15:05:05 2 3
bbc
funny, I was in Tesco on Tuesday and it was shocking how empty the shelves were. My average shopping has gone up £40 per month too, and that is for one person. You'd need to be blind not to see it.
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SP
18/03/2021 13:56:11 15 12
bbc
We can be optimistic about the future of UK.

This vaccine episode proved that UK can achieve a lot if we have innovation, creativity and agility

If we can achieve this in vaccine we can achieve the same in everything

We just need to be more united . With unity UK can succeed in so many things
54
18/03/2021 13:59:09 7 5
bbc
Couldn't agree more.
81
18/03/2021 14:06:01 1 3
bbc
The Govt has probably spent far over the odds at aquiring the vaccines. Businesses can't aford to spaff money about like this govt has on PPE and other pandemic related expenditure. It is telling that the govt are refusing to open their books to what has actually been spent and who contracts were given to. Companies have to ensure that their investments are going to give a return.
346
18/03/2021 15:16:34 0 3
bbc
Why should i give the first flying fig about the country which has betrayed me. I have no confidence in this country and will do nothing to support it.
34
18/03/2021 13:56:27 16 10
bbc
Not a Tory voter per se, but clearly their cash injections seemed to have been more or less spot on, going by the estimated time to reach Q4 2019 GDP. My only concern is that they've been too generous.

Still not appreciating why furlough will continue until September though vaccines are supposed to be complete in June/July. That's a lot of money to hand out for people who would likely rather work
50
Hex
18/03/2021 13:58:39 12 1
bbc
Takes 3 weeks for immunity to build up fully, assuming 2nd jab is complete by end of July business will then have a few weeks to prepare to bring staff back.
71
18/03/2021 14:02:35 0 0
bbc
Not everyone of working age will still be on furlough. Some Cos. have already ceased needing to furlough large swathes of their workforce.
145
18/03/2021 14:20:55 1 0
bbc
You have to pay attention and listen carefully - 2 doses of the vaccination are required, and with a government-stated target date of the end of July for completion of the 1st dose to the whole UK adult population, completion of the 2nd dose wouldn't then be achieved until the end of Oct, and it will be the younger ones (those more likely to be of working age, ) who will be at the tail end of that
450
18/03/2021 15:49:46 0 1
bbc
Not a Tory voter that old chestnut !!
525
18/03/2021 16:11:29 1 0
bbc
An awful lot of companies, especially in things like 'hospitality' and tourism won't ever get going again. I suspect that the government is now worried what will happen when they are no longer paying half the nation's workers and is putting off the evil day as long as possible.
19
xlr
18/03/2021 13:51:22 106 31
bbc
The fish only represent a tiny fraction of the economy, which is why fishermen were betrayed - though anyone with two neurons to rub together could have seen THAT coming.

The 40% drop in EU trade and the cost of that is far more worrying. The UK seems to have solved the problem of frictionless trade with the EU by simply having no trade. No trade, no friction...
35
18/03/2021 13:56:43 32 4
bbc
They were only "betrayed" in that they were told Brexit was the answer to all their problems, where it was bleedin' obvious to everyone else that losing access to your biggest market is an extremely bad idea.

There was no way that leaving the SM could turn out anything other than catastrophic for UK fishers.
36
18/03/2021 13:56:54 45 31
bbc
Of course there is. The effects of austerity havent gone away. Brexit hasnt gone away. Expect a pretty pitiful future under this Tory gvmt. They limit spending, dont encourage it. Just as they have presided over the last 10 years of pitiful economic performance. The party of economic ruin. FACT. Check the data
320
18/03/2021 15:06:33 13 16
bbc
Mystic Meg is here! Hurrah!
328
18/03/2021 15:09:48 1 2
bbc
Ok say I agree with you - who replaces them and what would they do better?
37
18/03/2021 13:54:11 12 10
bbc
The Tories gross incompetence in the handling of the pandemic ,3 lockdowns, has bankrupted the country . Heads should roll.
82
18/03/2021 14:02:23 6 9
bbc
Yep - Starmer's will when they lose the next election.
17
18/03/2021 13:40:01 14 23
bbc
Why cant people be upbeat for a change. i`m sick and fed up of the BBC, newspapers, the labour party the S.N.P. constantly trying to derail anything and everything its moan moan moan.
38
18/03/2021 13:55:23 4 2
bbc
Dave the Tory apologist
21
18/03/2021 13:51:47 84 58
bbc
Brace yourself for 4 more years of economic underachievement. Rejoining the SM & CU will be the key issue for parties at the next election.
39
18/03/2021 13:55:36 63 49
bbc
Indeed - the party the proposes it will lose the election.
40
18/03/2021 13:55:45 15 8
bbc
The vaccene wont make us any better at making money
61
18/03/2021 14:00:02 42 2
bbc
Or any better at spelling, either :)
27
18/03/2021 13:54:52 42 30
bbc
There's a lot of flag waving and finger pointing by the right wing.

EU ordered 400 million doses from AZ but AZ will only deliver around 40-50% on time.

How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?
None. The UK and AZ have in effect a 'defacto ban' on AZ vaccine exports until Gov orders are fulfilled.

How many vaccines made in EU have AZ and Pfizer exported to UK?
Tens of millions.
41
18/03/2021 13:57:10 24 16
bbc
And?
19
xlr
18/03/2021 13:51:22 106 31
bbc
The fish only represent a tiny fraction of the economy, which is why fishermen were betrayed - though anyone with two neurons to rub together could have seen THAT coming.

The 40% drop in EU trade and the cost of that is far more worrying. The UK seems to have solved the problem of frictionless trade with the EU by simply having no trade. No trade, no friction...
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Hex
18/03/2021 13:57:12 7 5
bbc
And yet trade with the rest of the world was unaffected, it's almost as if companies were stockpiling ahead of 1st Jan and didn't need to import anything.
89
18/03/2021 14:09:12 33 5
bbc
"And yet trade with the rest of the world was unaffected"

And why should it be affected when EU membership wasn't stopping Britain from trading then? It was a lie that the EU did stop global trade, and if anything, we had more trade deals via the EU. But putting barriers up to your biggest market is always going to damage you.
21
18/03/2021 13:51:47 84 58
bbc
Brace yourself for 4 more years of economic underachievement. Rejoining the SM & CU will be the key issue for parties at the next election.
43
18/03/2021 13:57:26 19 12
bbc
That’s probably what the Opposition will try and do and then wonder why they haven’t been elected again
213
18/03/2021 14:35:06 12 7
bbc
The sheeple will vote how Murdoch and his billionaire mates tell them to.
44
18/03/2021 13:57:30 44 7
bbc
Uncertain economy? That's new! Thank you, BoE.

Has the economy ever looked 'certain'?

Generic statements like these can be made at any point in time, and they'd still look apt.
168
18/03/2021 14:24:48 49 55
bbc
Under Brown it was certain.

Bust.
431
18/03/2021 15:43:53 4 1
bbc
Brown sold off the gold to help the banks!! I would of let go under !
45
18/03/2021 13:57:45 1 5
bbc
in other words we are all cattle trucked, typical bank statement blame someone else.
163
18/03/2021 14:24:21 1 0
bbc
Yeah - that darn Covid pandemic and response by every other country in the World - what are you playing at BoE - why aren't you accepting that it is ALL YOUR RESPONSIBILITY and "blaming" someone else ??
27
18/03/2021 13:54:52 42 30
bbc
There's a lot of flag waving and finger pointing by the right wing.

EU ordered 400 million doses from AZ but AZ will only deliver around 40-50% on time.

How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?
None. The UK and AZ have in effect a 'defacto ban' on AZ vaccine exports until Gov orders are fulfilled.

How many vaccines made in EU have AZ and Pfizer exported to UK?
Tens of millions.
46
18/03/2021 13:57:57 11 9
bbc
If I were the EU, I'd be upset too.
Thank God we didn't elect that Corbyn bloke though Removed
47
18/03/2021 13:58:00 9 0
bbc
Response of a 5 year old.
1
18/03/2021 13:29:24 365 97
bbc
Copy and paste for every other country in the World!

Thank goodness our incredible vaccine roll-out gives us a better chance than many others.
48
18/03/2021 13:58:20 155 40
bbc
Exactly.
1
18/03/2021 13:29:24 365 97
bbc
Copy and paste for every other country in the World!

Thank goodness our incredible vaccine roll-out gives us a better chance than many others.
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18/03/2021 13:58:35 50 42
bbc
I agree. The sooner we can see & understand the negative impact Brexit has had on our economy, & whether it’s in line with the -4% GDP impact from govt figures, the better. For too long the consequences have been swept under the CV19 carpet.
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18/03/2021 13:56:27 16 10
bbc
Not a Tory voter per se, but clearly their cash injections seemed to have been more or less spot on, going by the estimated time to reach Q4 2019 GDP. My only concern is that they've been too generous.

Still not appreciating why furlough will continue until September though vaccines are supposed to be complete in June/July. That's a lot of money to hand out for people who would likely rather work
50
Hex
18/03/2021 13:58:39 12 1
bbc
Takes 3 weeks for immunity to build up fully, assuming 2nd jab is complete by end of July business will then have a few weeks to prepare to bring staff back.
358
18/03/2021 15:19:39 0 0
bbc
But, the majority of vulnerable people will have been vaccinated way before the end of July.
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Ron
18/03/2021 13:58:58 5 6
bbc
The UK economy has performed astonishingly well during the lockdown. Output in January 2021was higher than any January prior to 2014 when there was no lockdown.

What happens from now on depends entirely on how fast the lockdown is lifted but monthly output by this time next year will reach all time records.

The real risk now is inflation owing to spending all this borrowed money.
105
18/03/2021 14:10:21 1 1
bbc
Do you have Amazon shares Ron ?
162
18/03/2021 14:24:15 0 1
bbc
Output will generally increase just because population has gone up, technology has improved and costs have reduced.

Normalized output, the output you should expect for the environment, should be level in a mature economy. Rising us a bubble risk, reducing is a recession risk.

That's the number you want, not the net.
52
18/03/2021 13:59:04 117 37
bbc
The truth is nobody knows what's going to happen.

The double whammy of Covid and Brexit will have a profound affect on the EU/UK, their businesses and their citizens

We should all just be happy for now that we are still alive
122
18/03/2021 14:15:39 133 98
bbc
The government will blame it on COVID though and deny that their mishandling of the brexit fiasco has caused any damage.
138
18/03/2021 14:18:20 3 14
bbc
It seems 2 people aren't happy they're alive what a shame
148
18/03/2021 14:21:23 7 1
bbc
Seeing the positive is good.

Seeing and fixing the negative has to be in there too.

Think of it like a meal. Just as with food groups, you need a healthy, balanced perspective.
159
18/03/2021 14:23:34 1 0
bbc
You say nobody knows what will happen?

And then in the very next sentence you say what's going to happen?

I agree with your third sentence, though!
276
18/03/2021 14:50:26 5 6
bbc
don't be so wet! Its hardly as though its been the bubonic plague and as far as economy news goes they make their own narrative to suit. I have worked hard and always been employed throughout my adult life. Im in my early 40s have paid 80% of my mortgage off have what most people would consider large savings (never inherited or given anything) and still enjoy my life, have holidays newish cars etc
363
18/03/2021 15:22:04 6 6
bbc
Brexit’s had a profound effect on the EU? Surely not. We will be the ones to suffer - or so we’ve been told often enough!
890
19/03/2021 11:57:22 0 0
bbc
Brexit will not be a whammy but will increase our prosperity given time.
17
18/03/2021 13:40:01 14 23
bbc
Why cant people be upbeat for a change. i`m sick and fed up of the BBC, newspapers, the labour party the S.N.P. constantly trying to derail anything and everything its moan moan moan.
53
18/03/2021 13:59:07 5 1
bbc
I say.

But it is hard when we are suffering the two big hurdles of Covid and a crap Conservative government.
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SP
18/03/2021 13:56:11 15 12
bbc
We can be optimistic about the future of UK.

This vaccine episode proved that UK can achieve a lot if we have innovation, creativity and agility

If we can achieve this in vaccine we can achieve the same in everything

We just need to be more united . With unity UK can succeed in so many things
54
18/03/2021 13:59:09 7 5
bbc
Couldn't agree more.
1
18/03/2021 13:29:24 365 97
bbc
Copy and paste for every other country in the World!

Thank goodness our incredible vaccine roll-out gives us a better chance than many others.
55
18/03/2021 13:59:26 71 73
bbc
Not every country in the world has committed economic suicide by voting for Brexit. Wake up!
111
18/03/2021 14:13:50 43 51
bbc
Mmm, so you would prefer to still be in the wonderful EU then? i.e. have the deadweight of EU bureaucracy weighing you down like a millstone around your neck as we start to move on from Covid.

Why are there no EU equivalents of Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook etc? Mmm, I wonder why?
497
18/03/2021 16:01:38 2 7
bbc
If we were still in the EU just imagine the awful mess we would be in where in the early stages the EU would be shoving EU patients down our throats due to our free healthcare. They would also make us wait for the vaccine and not allow us to take this chance of ordering all those early vaccines due to fear which would have left in more deaths in our country.
26
18/03/2021 13:54:48 150 87
bbc
Whereas you would trust Bojo despite his past misdemeanours being common knowledge for years?
56
18/03/2021 13:59:35 8 22
bbc
What misdemeanours?
101
18/03/2021 14:12:24 19 7
bbc
You can type, go to google?
414
18/03/2021 15:40:29 5 2
bbc
Drug use, domestic violence, repeated adultery, repeatedly sacked for lying.
57
18/03/2021 13:59:40 6 5
bbc
Usual vague comments from BoE

These guys wouldn't commit to anything if their life depended on it.

Just get on with your job and stop wasting our time.
58
18/03/2021 13:59:48 18 11
bbc
every country will face financial difficulty and an uncertain future. its to be expected at this time. we have a lot to be thankful for and need to be as possitive as we can be. stop the doom and gloom culture. no wonder we are stressed .
68
18/03/2021 14:01:47 36 23
bbc
Why? The English just shot the country in the foot. Nothing to be happy about, poorer already and lots more to come.
75
18/03/2021 14:03:34 6 3
bbc
But other countries haven't deliberately increased their trade barriers like the UK, and personally I want to hear how it is, not how I would like it to be!
98
18/03/2021 14:11:25 5 5
bbc
I think we are stressed because of the governments poor handling of the pandemic
137
18/03/2021 14:18:17 1 1
bbc
If your car is on fire, enjoying the CD player isn't helpful.

Something is only doom and gloom if nothing is done. That's noticing the car is on fire and staying in it.

Spotting problems and taking action is how you get things done. Seeing the car is on fire, getting out and extinguishing the blaze before there's significant damage.

Confusing these three is how you end up with nothing.
21
18/03/2021 13:51:47 84 58
bbc
Brace yourself for 4 more years of economic underachievement. Rejoining the SM & CU will be the key issue for parties at the next election.
59
18/03/2021 13:59:50 18 15
bbc
Correct. And when it slowly dawns on them that they were lied to and they are becoming poorer. Oh hold on it a minute. We can sign a trade deal with Uganda?
221
18/03/2021 14:36:05 12 6
bbc
And when it slowly dawns on them that they were lied to and they are becoming poorer.

You credit the general public with more intelligence than they merit.
25
18/03/2021 13:54:48 13 13
bbc
Not a mention of the real drag on the economy in the longer term, Brexit. It's already having an effect (has anyone noticed how many fewer European trucks there are on our roads today?) but it is disguised by Covid. As we emerge from Covid the brown smelly stuff will hit the spinning air circulator and spread far and wide.
60
18/03/2021 13:57:24 5 7
bbc
'Fewer European trucks'....... excellent news!
349
18/03/2021 15:17:51 0 3
bbc
Why? they aren't exactly being replaced with british ones, and even if they were it's still bad news. More European trucks = more variety for consumers.
40
18/03/2021 13:55:45 15 8
bbc
The vaccene wont make us any better at making money
61
18/03/2021 14:00:02 42 2
bbc
Or any better at spelling, either :)
663
18/03/2021 17:16:30 0 0
bbc
Worst part is, the device he posted that on did try to correct him!
Removed
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Hex
18/03/2021 13:55:18 18 6
bbc
No gaps in any supermarket I've been in.
63
18/03/2021 13:57:48 8 4
bbc
Nope - nor me.
64
18/03/2021 14:00:06 30 33
bbc
Wait till the full horror show of Brexit is seen.
77
18/03/2021 14:04:05 24 12
bbc
Go live in the EU then, oh wait
135
18/03/2021 14:17:29 3 1
bbc
Or not as the case may be. I hope you are foolish and wrong only time will tell.
176
18/03/2021 14:26:31 5 1
bbc
I've been waiting for years for the 'horror of Brexit'.
181
18/03/2021 14:28:26 5 2
bbc
I have been waiting a very long time...

Brexit: Apocalypse Not Quite Now...
It will be along in a bit.
315
18/03/2021 15:05:06 5 0
bbc
Thanks Nostradamus. Got any tips for the National this year?
32
Hex
18/03/2021 13:55:18 18 6
bbc
No gaps in any supermarket I've been in.
65
18/03/2021 14:01:03 4 6
bbc
No, just prices increasing
72
Hex
18/03/2021 14:02:44 6 3
bbc
No price increases either. Any other straws to clutch at?
215
18/03/2021 14:35:21 4 2
bbc
Lots of products same price less quantity, look how many packs have dropped 10% in weight. Out of curiosity I replicated an online shop from Dec this week, Cost £3.27 more and was 8% lower in weight. Price increase by stealth.
66
18/03/2021 14:01:05 202 85
bbc
Unusually uncertain.........are you sure? Certainly the toffs at the top are quite happy with how things are going. Their investments are doing quite nicely while they bankrupt the rest of the country. At least they can spend public money on extra missiles to make sure our cheap imports from China and Indonesia are protected. Chin chin chaps????
171
18/03/2021 14:25:44 140 21
bbc
Yes. Missiles are no protection from terrorism. Why do we need more? The world should cut down the number. There is zero chance of getting rid completely. Sadly.
255
18/03/2021 14:45:14 4 3
bbc
Great post.
441
18/03/2021 15:47:06 6 2
bbc
They're not buying more missiles, just more warheads, presumably for the Trident missiles that we, basically, hire from the US. And no, I can't see the point either. The truth is a conflict with any peer opponent (who would inevitably be nuclear armed) would result in the UK being reduced to a smoking cinder. China and Russia may calculate they could survive. Dodgy and pointless.
494
18/03/2021 16:01:09 3 2
bbc
The only certainty is uncertainty.

I am surprised they bother wasting their time with these reports. Still I supposed they have to be paid for been seen to be doing something...
535
18/03/2021 16:15:20 4 5
bbc
The poor must be even happier. They still get their indexed link benefits and freebies??
679
18/03/2021 17:27:52 2 2
bbc
I assume the wearhead purchases are part of the back door deal with the US so they can flood us with the low quality produce they call food. The UK independent nuclear missiles are wholly controlled and manged by Lockheed Martin, were a british PM to hit the button I guess they would then check with Biden before launching.
769
18/03/2021 18:41:49 0 3
bbc
What a narrow minded and stupid thing to say.
772
18/03/2021 18:45:18 0 0
bbc
Couldn’t have put it better myself!
885
19/03/2021 11:53:38 0 0
bbc
An incorrect and prejudiced comment. Socialist class warfare never increased the prosperity of any country.
67
18/03/2021 14:01:42 145 17
bbc
The Bank is right. Many companies have folded, more people are unemployed. With fewer people paying taxes, how is the government going to pay for public services?
203
18/03/2021 14:32:23 145 23
bbc
Make rich people and big corporations pay more tax (or indeed, just the tax they are supposed to be paying without offshore account tac loophole exploiting shenanigans)
234
18/03/2021 14:39:58 18 1
bbc
Same way we can afford trident, the 2008 crash, HS2, Brexit and everything else.

We print money and the BoE buys up bad debts with bonds.

If we wanted growth, we'd give people jobs and and cash to spend.
298
18/03/2021 15:00:34 30 6
bbc
I was paid off last December after 44 years of service.
Dept of Work & Pensions says that I can not "sign on" until my redundancy payment and total of any other savings falls below £16,000.
What a splendid way to suppress the real unemployment figures.
I will not appear "in the figures" until August/September now.
306
18/03/2021 15:03:52 2 0
bbc
by having a run on bank accounts
347
18/03/2021 15:17:43 3 1
bbc
Youll get the same answer more unsustainable tax cuts. Covid is only a small proportion of the debt.
372
18/03/2021 15:26:54 9 0
bbc
We'll pay for it. Remember, "We're all in it together!"
Higher tax rates, & public sector pay freezes/cuts a cert.
Could mothball HS2 ...
411
18/03/2021 15:40:20 0 0
bbc
Printing press go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
438
18/03/2021 15:46:37 5 5
bbc
The same way they have been paying for the last 40 years by borrowing. Our national debt is more than a GDP now, our triple A rating has been lost. These tories are running the country like a teenager with their parents credit card. Still you wont have to worry but your kids and grand kids will.
444
18/03/2021 15:47:50 1 1
bbc
They spend and then tax, taxes are important but they do not pay for services. 92.7% of government borrowing has been from itself....
515
18/03/2021 16:07:46 5 3
bbc
What public services? They'll just flog everything off to their mates' businesses
534
18/03/2021 16:13:30 0 0
bbc
The govt will borrow, borrow and borrow again
557
18/03/2021 16:22:08 1 0
bbc
"how is the government going to pay for public services?"

By privatising them, I would imagine.
576
18/03/2021 16:28:29 0 1
bbc
"With fewer people paying taxes, how is the government going to pay for public services?"

I'm amazed after the last year that the penny hasn't dropped (so to speak). Taxes have nothing to do with paying for public services.
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Al
18/03/2021 16:51:17 3 0
bbc
I work in Insolvency and have not seen more insolvencies than normal, in fact slightly less. With companies on Government grants and using the furlough scheme they can survive in a suspended state.
The rush will come, I expect, when the Government schemes stop. They simply will not have the working capital to fund getting back to normal again.
686
18/03/2021 17:33:41 2 0
bbc
"Office for Budget Responsibility, forecasts that unemployment will peak at 6.5% instead of the 11.9% predicted last July"

When the OBR predicted 11.9% that was based on furlough & Gov't grant schemes ending Autumn 2020. Instead, they have been extended to Autumn 2021. The can has just been kicked down the road at great cost. Could easily reach 11.9% in 2022.
758
18/03/2021 18:27:14 0 0
bbc
Ask the BoE about their dodgy QE policies.
775
18/03/2021 18:56:48 0 0
bbc
They'll just create the money, you think there is some geezer waiting on the government USA just gave everyone 1600bucks... all they really worry about is inflation.
58
18/03/2021 13:59:48 18 11
bbc
every country will face financial difficulty and an uncertain future. its to be expected at this time. we have a lot to be thankful for and need to be as possitive as we can be. stop the doom and gloom culture. no wonder we are stressed .
68
18/03/2021 14:01:47 36 23
bbc
Why? The English just shot the country in the foot. Nothing to be happy about, poorer already and lots more to come.
120
18/03/2021 14:15:37 3 2
bbc
Today is another day the future is as bright as you want to be. It's your responsibility to respond so going on about what you wanted and what you've got isn't going to change anything concentrate on what you can do
333
18/03/2021 15:11:07 2 3
bbc
If you are not English why are you worried (or commenting)?
69
18/03/2021 14:01:52 8 8
bbc
The pandemic will result in many people financially worse off but also many better off. I predict a bounce-back summer for the economy.

The down arrow is there if you are a pessimist.
87
18/03/2021 14:08:28 5 4
bbc
£50B is estimated to be just waiting to be spent.

Oh, how the moaners will be miserable - again.
(when they realise their pointless UK-hating envy is shot down)
92
18/03/2021 14:10:17 2 1
bbc
Or realist
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Hex
18/03/2021 13:55:18 18 6
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No gaps in any supermarket I've been in.
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18/03/2021 13:59:08 6 5
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I haven't seen that either.
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18/03/2021 13:56:27 16 10
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Not a Tory voter per se, but clearly their cash injections seemed to have been more or less spot on, going by the estimated time to reach Q4 2019 GDP. My only concern is that they've been too generous.

Still not appreciating why furlough will continue until September though vaccines are supposed to be complete in June/July. That's a lot of money to hand out for people who would likely rather work
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18/03/2021 14:02:35 0 0
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Not everyone of working age will still be on furlough. Some Cos. have already ceased needing to furlough large swathes of their workforce.
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18/03/2021 14:01:03 4 6
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No, just prices increasing
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Hex
18/03/2021 14:02:44 6 3
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No price increases either. Any other straws to clutch at?
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18/03/2021 15:05:46 1 2
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mine has gone up about 25%
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18/03/2021 14:03:10 5 12
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Typically negative BBC headline.

The economy was stronger in January than forecast. If you look at ONS forecasts they are always on the side of doom and gloom, and usually revised upwards.

Unemployment is set to fall by much less than expected, and significantly less than the 4 million figure trumpeted by the BBC and Labour, & the economy will return to growth earlier than previously forecasted.
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18/03/2021 14:03:19 10 3
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They still have most of all that taxpayers bail out money from 2008, so should've earnt quite alot of interest by now

Unless of course they kept paying out massive bonuses etc
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18/03/2021 13:59:48 18 11
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every country will face financial difficulty and an uncertain future. its to be expected at this time. we have a lot to be thankful for and need to be as possitive as we can be. stop the doom and gloom culture. no wonder we are stressed .
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18/03/2021 14:03:34 6 3
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But other countries haven't deliberately increased their trade barriers like the UK, and personally I want to hear how it is, not how I would like it to be!
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18/03/2021 13:51:40 35 14
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The pandemic has proved all these proclaimed experts haven't really got a clue when things get tough. Another 2 years of muddling through until things drop back to semi normal and so called experts can get 15% right again.
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18/03/2021 14:03:45 32 7
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I'm not sure that after 2 years we will have repaid the vast sums borrowed or even paid the interest on that amount without significant tax increases or spending cuts. Nor will we have created enough jobs to compensate for those lost. Back to semi normal? only if you can move your money and assets around the globe easily and can decide what tax you want to pay, if any.
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18/03/2021 15:21:28 3 0
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As the previous decade has shown.
You can't
They won't
Carry on regardless
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18/03/2021 14:00:06 30 33
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Wait till the full horror show of Brexit is seen.
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18/03/2021 14:04:05 24 12
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Go live in the EU then, oh wait
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18/03/2021 14:10:47 5 4
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Please, try to think globally
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18/03/2021 14:10:48 6 6
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"Go live in the EU then, oh wait"

Yes, we can't do that any more can we because we have no freedom of movement. Thanks.
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18/03/2021 14:16:40 5 4
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... if I had been given a Euro for every time someone had said that pointless comment....
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18/03/2021 14:04:28 15 16
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We keep hearing about how British innovation, creativity, and flexibility will enable us to thrive outside the EU. That's like saying that a healthy, intelligent athlete stands a good chance of a medal in the Paralympics - after deliberately blowing off his own two legs.
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18/03/2021 14:13:22 3 3
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Love the creative metaphor, but it's not valid if you hold the view that being inside the EU is not intrinsically better than being outside.
What's done is done, we just have to make the best of the situation now, I'm excited to see what new opportunities are now open to us outside the Bloc.
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18/03/2021 13:51:47 84 58
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Brace yourself for 4 more years of economic underachievement. Rejoining the SM & CU will be the key issue for parties at the next election.
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18/03/2021 14:05:14 17 24
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Brace yourself for endless pointless bitter moaning from bitter remoaner losers. Its ok, with Von Liar as the unelected El Presidente of the Junta - she is even worse than Junker !!

Rejoin ? - ha well at least you have some sense of humour in that respect.
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18/03/2021 14:37:07 5 4
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Are you exercising your "fury" with the EU for moving on?
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18/03/2021 14:05:30 16 14
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Unfortunately we have to deal with the Brexit carnage to come and whilst there will be a shed load of cash to be spent when things open up unfortunately this will be in the hands of the people least inclined to spend it and once again the trickle down effect will be empty Tory rhetoric.........
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18/03/2021 14:06:32 10 4
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.......and a few months later the Conservatives will win the election.
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18/03/2021 13:56:11 15 12
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We can be optimistic about the future of UK.

This vaccine episode proved that UK can achieve a lot if we have innovation, creativity and agility

If we can achieve this in vaccine we can achieve the same in everything

We just need to be more united . With unity UK can succeed in so many things
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18/03/2021 14:06:01 1 3
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The Govt has probably spent far over the odds at aquiring the vaccines. Businesses can't aford to spaff money about like this govt has on PPE and other pandemic related expenditure. It is telling that the govt are refusing to open their books to what has actually been spent and who contracts were given to. Companies have to ensure that their investments are going to give a return.
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18/03/2021 13:54:11 12 10
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The Tories gross incompetence in the handling of the pandemic ,3 lockdowns, has bankrupted the country . Heads should roll.
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18/03/2021 14:02:23 6 9
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Yep - Starmer's will when they lose the next election.
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18/03/2021 14:12:38 2 0
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If Major disaster followed some of Captain hindsight’s ideas we wouldn’t be in this mess
Because people like you will vote for scum ?? Removed
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18/03/2021 13:55:07 5 9
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Not proud that we are taking vaccine from India who probably need it more than us.
For god's sake!!!!
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18/03/2021 14:06:34 2 3
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India 115 Covid related deaths per million of population, UK 1,800.

So who needs it most???
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18/03/2021 14:29:03 1 1
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Proof that large countries more densely populated than the UK have handled thing better than the UK. Would still say India need it as much if not more. As if it does get a hold there it would be far worse numbers than we have seen.
Thank God we didn't elect that Corbyn bloke though Removed
Country wasn't ready for a Marxist anti-semite. Removed
.... and the country got a Fascist anti-proletariat Removed
Only the Israeli lobby called him an anti-semite. Jews with no affiliation to Israel did not identify him as anti-semitic. I think we can see exactly where the shit was coming from and it wasn't corbyn. Removed
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18/03/2021 13:54:52 42 30
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There's a lot of flag waving and finger pointing by the right wing.

EU ordered 400 million doses from AZ but AZ will only deliver around 40-50% on time.

How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?
None. The UK and AZ have in effect a 'defacto ban' on AZ vaccine exports until Gov orders are fulfilled.

How many vaccines made in EU have AZ and Pfizer exported to UK?
Tens of millions.
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18/03/2021 14:07:54 14 10
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"How many vaccines made in the UK have AZ exported to EU?"

That's not country's decision. That's the private company's choice . They will decide on how much to export.

Vaccines manufactured in EU got exported because they ordered it late

Vaccines manufactured in UK was used in UK because we ordered it early

EU must stop poking its ugly lengthy nose in private company businesses
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18/03/2021 14:15:39 11 11
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How wrong are you?

1. The private company's (AZ) customer was the UK Gov. They both call the shots with regard to who gets what.

2. EU did not order late, they simply ordered after UK. They agreed with AZ volumes and timescales but AZ failed to deliver. They were ripped off by AZ.

Let's stick to the facts.
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18/03/2021 14:08:24 6 3
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It’s not just this country. Things are the same all over the world. The slow down and closed down of economies interwoven with one another throughout a year of pandemic is going to be very noticeable. The good take up of vaccines in this country will enable us to open up our domestic markets ahead of other countries and hopefully put us in a better place to expand trade beyond our borders.
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18/03/2021 14:12:26 3 3
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Others can recover much quicker then us as they've not erected pointless trade barriers and made it undesirable to trade with them. It's also worth noting while our vaccine roll out is good (because the NHS is handling it) there's better roll outs elsewhere in the world.
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18/03/2021 14:01:52 8 8
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The pandemic will result in many people financially worse off but also many better off. I predict a bounce-back summer for the economy.

The down arrow is there if you are a pessimist.
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18/03/2021 14:08:28 5 4
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£50B is estimated to be just waiting to be spent.

Oh, how the moaners will be miserable - again.
(when they realise their pointless UK-hating envy is shot down)
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18/03/2021 14:05:30 16 14
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Unfortunately we have to deal with the Brexit carnage to come and whilst there will be a shed load of cash to be spent when things open up unfortunately this will be in the hands of the people least inclined to spend it and once again the trickle down effect will be empty Tory rhetoric.........
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18/03/2021 14:06:32 10 4
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.......and a few months later the Conservatives will win the election.
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18/03/2021 14:19:27 4 1
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Because in our system most people can vote against you and you still get an 80 seat majority!
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18/03/2021 15:12:16 1 0
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As baffling as it is, yes, quite probably.
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18/03/2021 15:16:10 0 1
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I think you're saying there's no accounting for stupid Tory voters, couldn't agree more champ
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18/03/2021 13:57:12 7 5
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And yet trade with the rest of the world was unaffected, it's almost as if companies were stockpiling ahead of 1st Jan and didn't need to import anything.
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18/03/2021 14:09:12 33 5
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"And yet trade with the rest of the world was unaffected"

And why should it be affected when EU membership wasn't stopping Britain from trading then? It was a lie that the EU did stop global trade, and if anything, we had more trade deals via the EU. But putting barriers up to your biggest market is always going to damage you.
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18/03/2021 14:14:11 4 4
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Maybe not stopped in that sense, but I'm sure it stop's member countries striking trade deals with the rest of the world? Or no?
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18/03/2021 14:09:18 64 35
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Brexit and the 40% cliff-edge drop in trade that occurred in January after the transition period ended?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56370690
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18/03/2021 14:16:27 51 39
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Mainly due to December stockpiling and now levels returning to more pre-December levels
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18/03/2021 14:16:29 17 12
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We should have a referendum on rejoining this summer.

I vote YES
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18/03/2021 14:21:10 8 22
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Absolute nonsense. Brexit offers us huge opportunities to trade with the rest of the world. The centre of the universe is not Europe!
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18/03/2021 14:22:00 11 8
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Irrelevant.

1. Stockpiling in Oct-Dec because of uncertainty meant firms required fewer imports on both sides of Channel in January.
2. Lockdown. See the massive drop in exports and imports last March.
3. One month of data is not sufficient to draw any long term conclusions.

You absolutely cannot judge success/failure of Brexit on one month of import/export data, to do so is just silly!
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SJ
18/03/2021 16:09:24 3 0
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Michael Gove said that people are tired of exports.
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18/03/2021 16:19:16 0 4
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It’s called stockpiling!
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18/03/2021 14:10:01 2 4
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The Wishy Washy BoE about as much use as the proverbial ashtray on a Motorcycle.
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18/03/2021 14:12:34 2 3
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Clearly coming from someone who has expert knowledge about the role of the Bank of England.
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18/03/2021 14:01:52 8 8
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The pandemic will result in many people financially worse off but also many better off. I predict a bounce-back summer for the economy.

The down arrow is there if you are a pessimist.
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18/03/2021 14:10:17 2 1
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Or realist
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18/03/2021 13:54:20 20 18
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Brexit can't hide behind covid forever.

The truth is leaking out. Truck numbers back to normal my aunt. Been shopping recently Mr Gove, seen the gaps in the supermarket shelves ?
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18/03/2021 14:10:26 4 4
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No gaps here either!
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18/03/2021 14:10:27 1 10
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This is the price we, and very very sadly, generations to come have to pay for prioritising the elderly for Covid protection. The people who really matter and need support are the ones who will get the economy going long after all the old people have gone by virtue of age anyway. Generations to come, through no fault of their own will be paying the price of all this silly shielding of the old.
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18/03/2021 14:13:13 6 1
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Unpleasant to class those over 60, many still working, as people who "don't matter".
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18/03/2021 14:13:34 3 0
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I expect you will change your view as you get older, if you have children they won't want you dead just to make it a bit easier economically.
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18/03/2021 14:41:15 2 0
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Clearly some feel being economic well-being is all that matters - even at the cost of being morally bankrupt.

How sad.
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18/03/2021 14:04:05 24 12
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Go live in the EU then, oh wait
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18/03/2021 14:10:47 5 4
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Please, try to think globally
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18/03/2021 14:04:05 24 12
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Go live in the EU then, oh wait
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18/03/2021 14:10:48 6 6
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"Go live in the EU then, oh wait"

Yes, we can't do that any more can we because we have no freedom of movement. Thanks.
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18/03/2021 14:21:41 8 1
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Yes you do.

People of UK travelled, worked and lived across the world before we joined the EUSSR.

Guess what - you can still do that now.
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18/03/2021 15:47:11 1 0
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If you have the skills or cash that any other country wants you will find that they will welcome you.
If you haven't then why should they have to have you move there?
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18/03/2021 13:54:53 3 4
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"get back at the end of this year to where it was at the end of 2019". That's better than being worse, let's not forget, doesn'y change the fact too many people are struggling on min wage, insecure jobs, inadequate benefits, NHS was underfunded for years before pandemic, we should be grateful?
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18/03/2021 14:10:52 1 0
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A more realistic estimate by the OECD is that UK will not get back to q4 2019 GDP until around the end of 2022.
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18/03/2021 13:59:48 18 11
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every country will face financial difficulty and an uncertain future. its to be expected at this time. we have a lot to be thankful for and need to be as possitive as we can be. stop the doom and gloom culture. no wonder we are stressed .
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18/03/2021 14:11:25 5 5
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I think we are stressed because of the governments poor handling of the pandemic
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18/03/2021 14:04:28 15 16
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We keep hearing about how British innovation, creativity, and flexibility will enable us to thrive outside the EU. That's like saying that a healthy, intelligent athlete stands a good chance of a medal in the Paralympics - after deliberately blowing off his own two legs.
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18/03/2021 14:12:22 25 3
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How quickly the BoE changes its tune from optimism to uncertainty in just a quick breath. The fact is they have no more idea of what is likely to happen than any person in the street.
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18/03/2021 17:32:58 3 3
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"The fact is they have no more idea of what is likely to happen than any person in the street."

It fooled you well enough last time by the sounds of it! :P