Covid: People aged 50-54 invited for jab in England
17/03/2021 | news | health | 1,329
The England rollout comes as figures show nearly half of UK adults have had one dose.
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17/03/2021 14:10:28 4 37
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No thanks.
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17/03/2021 14:11:36 30 2
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You fool.
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17/03/2021 14:12:00 8 0
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Why not?
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17/03/2021 14:12:24 3 0
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Doh!
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17/03/2021 14:12:50 8 0
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All the more for sensible people then, enjoy your permanent lockdown
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17/03/2021 14:30:33 0 0
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We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us.
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17/03/2021 14:11:22 123 23
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The brave plucky British vaccine was initially slow out of the blocks, stumbled then stumbled again, had many detractors and those simply wishing to put it down.

But still it pushes on, one step in front of the other until it went on to vaccinate most of the world.
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17/03/2021 14:15:07 47 98
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I'll never vote for them because of Brexit but no one can deny that the vaccine roll out has been a staggering success.

However it is a success in isolation unless we start accelerating the lifting of restrictions and let the population work, travel and meet. We need to capitalise on this success and lift all restrictions asap.
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17/03/2021 14:24:05 3 18
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bs - quitter I take it.
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17/03/2021 14:26:28 9 4
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But it's just a vaccine, not a national treasure. What's important is that people are vaccinated properly with whatever is best to hand.

Have you lot ever seen what happens to a typical pharma or vaccine and how many times it gets pulled or questioned? No, unlike me who has worked in pharma, you haven't because this is the first time you cared about vaccines or where they came from.
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17/03/2021 14:52:26 7 12
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When we are out of lock down without having unelected scientists running the country telling us the NHS is going to overwhelmed lets celebrate, until then we are still being criminalised for basic human rights and interactions with loved ones and family and business are still being ruined. Nothing at the moment has changed despite 20 million of the most vulnerable vaccinated, not very promising.
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17/03/2021 15:19:31 3 4
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Interesting America has still not approved it for use...
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dan
17/03/2021 15:21:37 5 2
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Jesus what a load of jingoistic nonsense. Why is it that those who call themselves "Rational" are also blindly nationalistic?

Why the constant us against the world, they all hate us mentality? The AZ vaccine has been a global effort where we played our part. In fact, there's a pretty decent chance the jab that goes into your arm will have been made in Europe or India :)
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17/03/2021 16:26:46 0 1
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Except of course it isn't the vaccine that will "vaccinate most of the world". The Pfizer/BioNTech one is used in more countries and has been used most so far. I don's expect any vaccine to be used by a majority of the world's population, but if we're taking numbers Covaxin will probably end up being the one used most (India is likely to use it for most of their population).
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17/03/2021 16:30:42 1 1
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It's _not_ a British vaccine. Sigh.
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17/03/2021 14:10:28 4 37
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No thanks.
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17/03/2021 14:11:36 30 2
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You fool.
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17/03/2021 14:10:28 4 37
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No thanks.
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17/03/2021 14:12:00 8 0
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Why not?
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17/03/2021 14:12:18 30 1
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Had mine today
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17/03/2021 14:49:40 3 29
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Thanks for letting us have this earth shattering news. A true hero!
17/03/2021 17:10:06 1 0
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Me too
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17/03/2021 14:10:28 4 37
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No thanks.
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17/03/2021 14:12:24 3 0
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Doh!
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17/03/2021 14:11:58 70 23
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Are you watching Europe ? because this is how its done.
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17/03/2021 14:16:59 17 33
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Great news but means nothing unless the lifting of restrictions is accelerated to keep pace with the success of the vaccine roll out.
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17/03/2021 14:25:01 3 7
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bleargh - embarrassing.
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17/03/2021 15:03:22 2 8
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You mean having many more deaths than any EU country? Strange thing to boast about.
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17/03/2021 15:05:08 2 5
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Lies, deceit, cronyism? Proud to state you are for this ?
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17/03/2021 15:28:26 1 2
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Do you honestly think they care about us? You don't travel much, do you?
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17/03/2021 16:32:33 0 1
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... Badly and not in the interests of the EU population.
17/03/2021 17:48:26 0 0
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By ignoring real issues with the Oxford/AZ vaccine?

https://twitter.com/JLRohmann/status/1371833745272156163?s=20

The real question is why the UK approved the vaccine so soon after the patched together trial (the US still hasn't approved it), and why the MHRA hasn't been raising the same concerns as EU regulators.
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17/03/2021 14:10:28 4 37
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No thanks.
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17/03/2021 14:12:50 8 0
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All the more for sensible people then, enjoy your permanent lockdown
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17/03/2021 14:18:03 3 6
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Doesn’t sound like he’s afraid and why should he be if young and healthy. Average age of death from it is over average life expectancy
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17/03/2021 14:43:44 1 5
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You deluded fool. You genuinely think the vaccine is your ticket to freedom don't you? You're in for a very big shock. I almost pity you. Almost, but not quite
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17/03/2021 14:13:25 33 1
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Still some way to go but we're heading in the right direction. ??
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17/03/2021 14:27:59 8 10
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We hope.
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17/03/2021 14:13:34 2 1
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Our local GPs' surgery hasn't done all its over 65s yet.
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17/03/2021 14:19:10 2 0
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very few have. There are always some who cannot for medical reasons.
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17/03/2021 14:22:51 1 0
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Complain, ask why they are so behind. Contact your CCG who are probably coordinating roll out. There are no excuses if roll out to over 50's is now happening.
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17/03/2021 14:13:41 47 3
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From what I see and this post from December predicting almost exactly the panic in other countries based on nothing more than coincidence, the AZ vaccine is safe. Rather like the fake panic about MMR which was also based on coincidence alone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55216047
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17/03/2021 14:24:44 50 2
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Had my first dose yesterday (AZ) and feeling fine - not even an aching arm. Folks really shouldn't let the anti-vax blather get in the way of their health.
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17/03/2021 14:54:48 7 2
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Interesting that the EMA (part of the EU commission) and WHO reckon it is safe but some medical 'expert' in a couple of nations hit the panic button with minimal information and a load of others jumped over the cliff like lemmings. Given the renewed spike on the continent their reaction is wierd.
17/03/2021 17:43:01 0 0
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This is a useful thread about why the issues with the Oxford/AZ vaccine aren't as simple as a lot of people seem to think:

https://twitter.com/JLRohmann/status/1371833745272156163?s=20
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17/03/2021 14:14:09 76 6
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Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.
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17/03/2021 14:23:03 75 2
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Every medication and medical procedure has possible side effects. If everybody took notice of these possibilities nobody would ever have a drug or operation. For example 1 in 1000 people having a hip operation can get blood clots (source NHS website) which is certainly a lot more risky than it seems to be from having the vaccine or catching Covid, so I would NOT be too concerned.
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17/03/2021 14:25:18 3 0
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Correction to numbers on risks after hip surgery - 2% can possibly get DVT
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17/03/2021 14:26:55 0 7
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Pretty normal actually - usual tory crime but you learn to live with it.
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17/03/2021 14:27:36 13 2
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Had mine (AZ) early Feb.

Apart from very mild cold/flu like symptoms for about 3-4 hours the next morning, plus a bit of a stiff arm, I was fine and dandy.

The sense of relief is brilliant.

Good luck with it Deborah.
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17/03/2021 14:32:46 2 11
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No
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17/03/2021 14:50:48 12 2
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According to reports the Astra vaccine is more LIKELY to produce an adverse reaction on the first jab in you younger people but the Pfizer it is more likley on the second. Either way, better than Covid-19 or even longer lockdown.
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17/03/2021 15:05:31 5 0
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Well done. I was scared of side effects as I've a history of allergic reactions but was fine on the AZ jab.
17/03/2021 16:55:51 1 1
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Ticket out of what? You will still have to wear masks, social distance etc and
there will inevitably be more lockdowns come Sept/October. You are taking the first step to allowing government and big pharma to dictate medical interventions whether you need them or not.
17/03/2021 20:51:16 0 0
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I had one little moment at three in the morning when I went to pee when I felt lousy. Went to sleep for 3 and a half hours , woke up and felt fine. Even the site of the jab was just a very slight twinge. My wife who seems to have a reaction to anything had very little reaction at all. She did egg it on a bit to get some more housework out of me . But's that's wives for you :)
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17/03/2021 14:14:15 3 1
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I live in the North East and am 52 years old. Just been on the NHS website to book my vaccine and it says I am not eligible. So how indeed do you book your vaccine if you are over 50?
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17/03/2021 14:16:44 5 1
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You have to wait until you're invited. If you have, and can't do it online, ring up and speak to an actual person, then you'll be able to get it booked. That's what I did as I prefer to speak to a hooman!
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17/03/2021 14:20:33 3 0
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Try again tomorrow - this was only announced a few hours ago so it's not entirely unexpected that the PR machine runs faster than the NHS website update...
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17/03/2021 14:42:01 0 0
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They have problems with their booking system. I got the same message and when I called them I was told that they can’t do snyhh the info about and to try again in a couple of days !!
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17/03/2021 14:47:37 0 0
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Read the thread and wait 24 hours.
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17/03/2021 14:14:25 154 19
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The programme of mass vaccination
Is helping the health of the Nation
But in Europe it's stalled
I'm frankly appalled
So this year I'll have a Staycation !
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17/03/2021 14:17:39 42 5
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Boom boom!
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17/03/2021 14:55:56 7 2
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Many more of the UK population shoud have them anyway regardless of covid keep some money in this country's pockets
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17/03/2021 15:50:42 5 0
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Very good, but stop using the phrase "staycation" to describe a holiday in the UK! In fact, please drop it completely.
18/03/2021 08:41:01 0 0
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We don't get enough limericks in these comments, so it's a thumbs-up from me! I can't believe the number of misery-guts who voted it down, though. Did Covid suck all the joy out of their lives?
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17/03/2021 14:14:32 106 13
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Fascinated to see how the EU intends to block vaccines bound for the UK etc, when 17 countries within the block don't want them?? Glad to see the EU's messaging is as clear as ever.
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17/03/2021 14:27:48 9 55
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? How do you conclude that ?
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17/03/2021 14:47:59 4 0
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Let's be fair we have not yet exported any of the vaccines manufactured in this country to them yet. We haven't banned export we just haven't exported. Which make me wonder if the panic the EU is having over the Astra vaccine adverse reactions is due to their manufacting plants as the UK doesn't seem to being having the same panic or is it just an over-reaction?
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17/03/2021 15:27:20 2 0
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Pfizer is produced in EU.

And the relative need elsewhere is in EU rule, Aus order blocked using it.

Ingredients flow both ways, closing vacc shipment borders could harm them too.

And not all AZ comes from UK - millions stockpiled in UK cDec came from EU.

Roll out to 50+ today, sits on back of c5m+ delivery from Indian pharma, producing AZ under license.
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17/03/2021 14:14:51 17 5
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Great, once this age group is vaccinated the lockdown should be eased quicker.
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17/03/2021 14:41:58 4 6
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Yeh but it won't, and you know it won't
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17/03/2021 14:11:22 123 23
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The brave plucky British vaccine was initially slow out of the blocks, stumbled then stumbled again, had many detractors and those simply wishing to put it down.

But still it pushes on, one step in front of the other until it went on to vaccinate most of the world.
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17/03/2021 14:15:07 47 98
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I'll never vote for them because of Brexit but no one can deny that the vaccine roll out has been a staggering success.

However it is a success in isolation unless we start accelerating the lifting of restrictions and let the population work, travel and meet. We need to capitalise on this success and lift all restrictions asap.
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17/03/2021 14:27:20 23 8
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You won't vote for them because they actioned the will of the people?
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17/03/2021 14:54:38 7 3
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UK restrictions can only be lifted if the virus/Covid are under control. Travel restrictions (in/out of UK) are also reliant upon other countries also having the virus/Covid under control. Vaccination globally is the only solution. Makes you wonder why the USA is hoarding millions of AZN jabs that they have not approved for use (and won't approve for 2 weeks).
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17/03/2021 15:02:31 11 4
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The restrictions won't be lifted and until the government deems it safe to do so and not a day earlier. What would be the point of opening-up too early and then being in yet another lockdown? We need to get it right this time.
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17/03/2021 15:27:48 3 0
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I agree on point 1, on point 2, don't forget that while they made one, single good decision (ordering LOTS of vaccine VERY early), it's down to the sharp end of the NHS that this has been a success. Nurses, doctors, managers in hospitals and GP practices have made this work.
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17/03/2021 15:30:35 5 2
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You don't seem to have learnt the lessons of the past 12 months.

We are only in lockdown now because we lost control by easing off too soon.

Countries that come down hard early on and have continued to hit back hard at the slightest sign of an outbreak are living and enjoying a near normal life.

Those who ceded to the baying for "human rights" and freedoms are not and are still dying.
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17/03/2021 15:54:48 1 0
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Thank the NHS not the Gov though that Kate bellingham seems to have played a blinder.
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17/03/2021 16:28:53 1 1
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Who? Oxford/Astra-Zeneca, what did they have to with Brexit?
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17/03/2021 14:15:22 4 7
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Has anyone confirmed that having the vaccine stops you carrying and infecting others? It's all very well people in the UK being safe but I don't want to travel abroad if I'm going to infect people who haven't been vaccinated.
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17/03/2021 14:17:45 4 0
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Or be infected by people who've not ben vaccinated.
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17/03/2021 14:25:04 1 0
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Lots of people have died from COVID a month or more after vaccination. Thousands. So caution isnt a bad plan for the older population.
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17/03/2021 14:27:52 2 0
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The latest I read is that the AZ one cuts the risk of infecting others by about 30% but that may have changed. They won’t actually be able to quantify it for several months, I suspect.
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17/03/2021 14:30:28 0 0
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You can still be infected & infect although the strength of the infection is greatly reduced.

Travel to other countries who are not as well vaccinated as us will still (even when allowed) hold the risk of finding oneself locked down abroad or quarantined on return.
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17/03/2021 14:43:16 0 0
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The 'experts' are still awaiting more evidence on whether you can pass it on or not. We may get an decision in three or four years.
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17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
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I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
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17/03/2021 14:18:00 20 3
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Rubbish. Both Pfizer and AZ are similarly effective. Both prevent serious illness and hospitalisation
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17/03/2021 14:18:43 7 2
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Please, enlighten us to your scientific knowledge and provide us with evidence as to why this is?
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17/03/2021 14:19:55 7 2
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And your medical and other evidence for this bold assertion is...??
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17/03/2021 14:23:53 5 1
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Why do you say that Pfizer is the best? When I arrived at the centre for my jab I was told that they were swopping over from one to the other and I had the choice of going to the left or right, just because I was at that point in the queue. I chose the Oxford Jab because it is okay for the 12 week delay between jabs but the wait was not approved by Pfizer for their jab. No blood clots here.
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17/03/2021 14:24:35 4 0
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Your informed opinion? Presume you are highly qualified in drug development to be able to issue this expert advice . All vaccines being used have passed all approvals from the UK medical experts. I hope you are not inferring you won't accept the Oxford - AZ one?
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17/03/2021 14:25:23 4 0
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You won't have a choice of know which you hav e had until afterwards .I had O/A Z many weeks ago and am perfectly happy.
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17/03/2021 14:25:41 2 1
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Yep - take that experimental mRNA vaccine over the others that use more trusted technology. You have swallowed the propaganda whole.

Let's just hope that when long term safety data is available we aren't all left looking stupid - or worse, with long term life affecting conditions.
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17/03/2021 14:28:42 3 0
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Please post your source for your evidence of it being a better vaccine as I would like to read it so I can make an informed judgment
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17/03/2021 14:41:22 1 0
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Astra more likely to have an adverse reaction on first jab especially if younger. Pfizer more likely to have an adverse reaction on the second jab according to the reports. Both good at reducing death and hospitalisation and give us a chance on getting back to a more normal situation. Both better than having covid-19
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17/03/2021 14:46:26 1 0
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Zero evidence to support that statement. It's the kind of nonsense you read on social media - oh, yes I see!
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17/03/2021 15:26:22 0 0
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You were involved in the manufacturing of both were you ?
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17/03/2021 14:16:16 20 9
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The UK’s vaccine rollout has been superb, while some European countries have responded badly to reports of side-effects. As for the hysterical over-reactions from certain commentators in the UK… You won! We left! It’s over! Remember???
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17/03/2021 14:16:31 181 25
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From what i hear on the TV today the EU wants to restrict vaccine exports, even though their vaccines are going off because their rollout is badly organised. Particular targets will be countries whose roll outs are in advance of theirs. Wonder who they're talking about ?
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17/03/2021 14:21:18 162 24
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Yes, it's us.

Passing the buck for being, as usual, too slow to act & not ordering far enough in advance.

Their argument should be with the company NOT the country but they still want their British pound of flesh.
? You are an embarrassment. Removed
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17/03/2021 14:33:06 39 0
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I suspect that the EU countires are allowing politics to sway their decision making. Someone on telly yesterday was saying the figures are only very slightly higher than would be expected in the normal population anyway, and that the Pfizer vaccine had similar occurrence figures. Cutting their nose off to spite their face, as my old Mum would have said.
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17/03/2021 14:35:58 34 0
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I presume then that they won't want the lipids produced in the UK which are required for the production of the Pfizer vaccine.
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17/03/2021 14:37:06 9 3
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Looking to cover their own backs. They have rather mis-managed their vaccine programme and when someone like Boris manages it better it is very very embarassing so they are trying look good now. Bit like Boris is trying to hide his early mistakes in the pandemic with the vaccine success.
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17/03/2021 15:00:31 0 24
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USA doesn't use AZ vaccines, keeps 30 milions in warehouses and won't share with anybody.
How does EU vaccinated 45 millions of citizens badly organized comparing to 45 millions of British vaccinated?
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17/03/2021 15:47:49 0 2
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The EU has exported 25 million doses of vaccine, some to the UK. We have exported none.
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17/03/2021 16:33:42 2 0
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Ursual was giving time on the BBC WS today to talk about the vaccine passports as though she had invented it ...meanwhile the people of Europe are wondering when they will be vaccinated. But hey dont let that get in the way of Ursula trying to scramble out of that massive hole she has dug for herself
17/03/2021 16:53:27 0 0
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It is scandalous if they are letting vaccines "go off"!
If EU countries are so concerned about everything and everyone being fair and equal, they should donate these vaccines to the Covax initiative.
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17/03/2021 14:14:15 3 1
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I live in the North East and am 52 years old. Just been on the NHS website to book my vaccine and it says I am not eligible. So how indeed do you book your vaccine if you are over 50?
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17/03/2021 14:16:44 5 1
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You have to wait until you're invited. If you have, and can't do it online, ring up and speak to an actual person, then you'll be able to get it booked. That's what I did as I prefer to speak to a hooman!
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17/03/2021 14:25:49 2 0
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Deborah the first line of this news item reads "People aged 50 and over in England are now being invited to book their appointment for a Covid vaccine". Have I misunderstood that?
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17/03/2021 14:16:45 11 24
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Once this is done and you’re under 50 and healthy there’s no reason for you to have the vaccine. The chance of death is so so low. Do young people get a flu jab each winter? No, it’s only vulnerable category. The vaccine lessens symptoms if you get the virus. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus or passing it on. Time to open up after the vulnerable have had their jabs. Let’s get moving!
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17/03/2021 14:20:39 16 0
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There is some evidence that vaccinating younger people may prevent transmission, but it's early days. However, being very overweight even in young people is a risk factor, and as we know, there are a lot of very overweight younger people. Unfortunate but true.
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17/03/2021 14:23:21 1 8
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Absolutely - why take a risk of a vaccine that gives you very little benefit, and the ones who we are being guilt tripped about are all vaccinated.
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17/03/2021 14:23:37 4 2
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You might want to take a look again at some of those statements
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17/03/2021 14:24:16 9 3
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This is both wrong and dangerous advice. The virus will mutate in unvaccinated people, perhaps into variants that are resistant to the vaccines already delivered. Shame on you. Shame.
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17/03/2021 14:31:26 4 0
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Bit selfish oldboy. What about transmitting it to others? I know the 'experts' have not yet said oit prevents transmission but it is likely it does.
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17/03/2021 14:32:01 7 0
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Tell that to the fit & healthy under 50s that have died. The vaccine isn't 100% effective. Rushing to open up again will only set a 3rd wave away this time with a lot more younger people dying.
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17/03/2021 14:33:50 5 0
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No the vaccine has also been shown to reduce transmission, and since the risk from the vaccine is tiny compared to that of covid (even in the young and healthy) it makes no sense to pass on it. The faster the virus is contained, the less chance it has to mutate into new vaccine resistant strains.
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17/03/2021 14:43:20 4 1
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A bogus comment which unfortunately will be permeated by others who will then spread it on & cause more harm. The WHOLE POINT of the vaccine is to stop people catching the disease, mutating it into a more deadly strain & passing it on, sending us back to square one - needing a new vaccine, more deaths, more people left with life changing problems, more lockdowns, more misery.
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17/03/2021 14:11:58 70 23
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Are you watching Europe ? because this is how its done.
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17/03/2021 14:16:59 17 33
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Great news but means nothing unless the lifting of restrictions is accelerated to keep pace with the success of the vaccine roll out.
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17/03/2021 14:49:36 3 3
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I can pretty much guarantee that won't happen,,there will be some excuse or other to delay things.
The hospitality industry did everything asked of it and enforced the rules......then got the blame for spreading this deadly virus that affects a tiny % of the population and kills even less.....which carried on spreading after it was shut down so call me a sceptic but...........
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17/03/2021 15:08:36 5 3
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We are all working towards that end but you need more patience! It's only another few months and things will be up and running again.
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17/03/2021 15:13:53 0 0
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Vaccine roll out to 50+, but talking to older colleagues in last late 50s round, saying jab dates c1.5-2 wks from text.

But still appears could be fair bit ahead of mid Apr target.

If continues there may be more marginal things slotted in to next 2 part releases or less likely the 5 wk gap cut.

Scotland seems to be doing it's small steps 3wks.

Flip side case nos increasing, 20%+ in some LAs.
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17/03/2021 14:17:34 271 20
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Great to see progress.

Great to see positivity and action in the UK.

We hope our neighbours in Europe get vaccinated soon too.
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17/03/2021 14:28:16 97 11
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Hopefully because there is no normality until all border restrictions, masks on planes and testing are abolished. Can't come too soon.
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17/03/2021 14:51:55 22 23
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They are threatening to seize vaccine production. They are our enemies, not our friends!
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17/03/2021 14:55:49 26 15
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Good thing we got out of the EU or we would be in a total mess like them!
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17/03/2021 14:56:18 6 13
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In the EU nunber of citizens vaccinated is broadly the same as in UK. However total population is 447 millions hence in it's only 9%
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17/03/2021 15:27:55 14 4
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Isn't our NHS amazing?!

Despite having had its hands tied behind its back it has handled the vaccination programme remarkably well.

Since 2010 it's had a reduction in funding, in GDP terms from 7.6 to 7.1%, which is a massive cut. On top of that unfunded social care has been dumped onto it.

Just think what could have been if the NHS had been left in charge of PPE & test & trace?!
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17/03/2021 15:32:43 2 10
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Billions saved for starters, which ended up in the pockets of Tory backers. Secondly it would have efficiently delivered!

Sick to the back teeth hearing how things would have been handled so much better with hindsight. Other countries managed to have foresight & others adapted. Our Tory Government ignored the findings of "Exercise Cygnus".

Those using the term hindsight are just Tory apologists!
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17/03/2021 16:18:36 0 0
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Only if they do exactly as Ursula says .
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17/03/2021 14:14:25 154 19
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The programme of mass vaccination
Is helping the health of the Nation
But in Europe it's stalled
I'm frankly appalled
So this year I'll have a Staycation !
26
17/03/2021 14:17:39 42 5
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Boom boom!
17/03/2021 16:50:34 0 0
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Is that you Boris, practicing your 'new nukes' soundbite?
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17/03/2021 14:15:22 4 7
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Has anyone confirmed that having the vaccine stops you carrying and infecting others? It's all very well people in the UK being safe but I don't want to travel abroad if I'm going to infect people who haven't been vaccinated.
27
17/03/2021 14:17:45 4 0
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Or be infected by people who've not ben vaccinated.
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
28
17/03/2021 14:18:00 20 3
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Rubbish. Both Pfizer and AZ are similarly effective. Both prevent serious illness and hospitalisation
8
17/03/2021 14:12:50 8 0
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All the more for sensible people then, enjoy your permanent lockdown
29
17/03/2021 14:18:03 3 6
bbc
Doesn’t sound like he’s afraid and why should he be if young and healthy. Average age of death from it is over average life expectancy
40
17/03/2021 14:21:08 3 1
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But life expectancy is based on your year of birth. As you get older thhe life expectancy of those left in your cohort increases because of those who have died along the way.
189
17/03/2021 14:43:48 6 1
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So it might not be life threatening to Phil but vaccination minimises the risk of a person catching Covid which in turn minimises transmission rates which in turn minimises the chance of mutations occurring which could make current vaccinations less effective. TOTALLY SELFISH ATTITUDE!
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
30
17/03/2021 14:18:43 7 2
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Please, enlighten us to your scientific knowledge and provide us with evidence as to why this is?
10
17/03/2021 14:13:34 2 1
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Our local GPs' surgery hasn't done all its over 65s yet.
31
17/03/2021 14:19:10 2 0
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very few have. There are always some who cannot for medical reasons.
32
17/03/2021 14:19:26 4 4
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Website still not accepting bookings for those newly included. Spoke to the helpline and it takes 24hrs to update eligibility - as if this came as a massive surprise to those working on it.
56
17/03/2021 14:24:09 2 1
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Thanks for the update Stu, same situation for me.
76
17/03/2021 14:27:02 1 0
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Strange that as I personally know of 4 50-54 year olds who have all booked their appointments this morning
33
17/03/2021 14:19:26 2 6
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We've got a 50+ mile round trip to get ours, so much for the 10 miles that was promised by Hancock. Even so, I would travel the moon to get it.
43
17/03/2021 14:21:41 11 2
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Really? Sounds more like a local admin error than anything else
45
17/03/2021 14:22:50 3 1
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I am sure you could have got one nearer than that.
80
17/03/2021 14:27:28 2 1
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Was initially offered Blackburn or Lancaster, and I'm in North Yorkshire. Waited a day and got one a mile from home.
101
17/03/2021 14:30:16 1 1
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You've obviously booked one of the larger vaccination centres rather than wait for your local GP surgery to contact you. I was offered three locations, Newcastle, Middleborough or Brighton - I live in the North East, north of Newcastle. Instead I waited a week and my local GP surgery did it within a couple of miles of my home.
Your choice - travel and whinge or wait a bit longer.
160
17/03/2021 14:38:56 1 1
bbc
Only if you go to a national centre - your GP won't be that far away but maybe you'll have to wait a few more days.
200
17/03/2021 14:44:59 0 2
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I too was expected to do a round trip of 60 miles It’s not happening I am not boosting tax avoiding Boots profits
17/03/2021 18:01:35 1 0
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No, its not a local admin area and no I can't get one nearer than that. My local GPs vaccination centre was closed after they did the over 65s. I keep trying the NHS website and it says the same. Maybe its because we are very rural.
34
17/03/2021 14:19:46 14 4
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Hospitalisations should now be going down and restrictions easing should be fine, or are we still going off the number of infections? If it’s the latter, we will be in lockdown forever.
44
17/03/2021 14:22:15 8 19
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The goal posts were shifted a while ago. Remember when it was all about hospitalisations, then vaccinating the top 4 groups. I can see lockdowns not getting fully ended ever.
54
17/03/2021 14:24:04 4 0
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Agree, was the argument all along 'to take the pressure off the NHS', which is clearly happening.
324
17/03/2021 15:04:54 1 0
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It's got to be off the number of infections; each new infection is a trillion new chances for the virus to mutate maybe in a way that makes young people very vulnerable or gives a death rate like SARS or MERS. Arguably, vaccinating the most vulnerable before the most likely to pass it on is a flawed strategy. Obviously the right thing to do though . See New Scientist 13/03 p 9
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
35
17/03/2021 14:19:55 7 2
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And your medical and other evidence for this bold assertion is...??
13
17/03/2021 14:14:15 3 1
bbc
I live in the North East and am 52 years old. Just been on the NHS website to book my vaccine and it says I am not eligible. So how indeed do you book your vaccine if you are over 50?
36
17/03/2021 14:20:33 3 0
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Try again tomorrow - this was only announced a few hours ago so it's not entirely unexpected that the PR machine runs faster than the NHS website update...
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17/03/2021 14:16:45 11 24
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Once this is done and you’re under 50 and healthy there’s no reason for you to have the vaccine. The chance of death is so so low. Do young people get a flu jab each winter? No, it’s only vulnerable category. The vaccine lessens symptoms if you get the virus. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus or passing it on. Time to open up after the vulnerable have had their jabs. Let’s get moving!
37
17/03/2021 14:20:39 16 0
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There is some evidence that vaccinating younger people may prevent transmission, but it's early days. However, being very overweight even in young people is a risk factor, and as we know, there are a lot of very overweight younger people. Unfortunate but true.
38
17/03/2021 14:20:53 32 4
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Can't fail to be impressed at the momentum our vaccination programme has. Europe, look on in envy!
142
17/03/2021 14:36:36 20 0
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They have and are still behaving disgracefully!
171
17/03/2021 14:40:43 1 3
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Only time will tell whether Europe took the right approach.

I wouldn't be too quick to celebrate just yet.
39
17/03/2021 14:20:53 2 0
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I'm booked in for next week ??

Although I would like to know:

(i) Does every have to have the first vaccine before we roll out the second one?

(ii) Can we carry/infect others even after being vaccinated?
49
17/03/2021 14:23:07 5 0
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That's why some have already had the second dose.
93
17/03/2021 14:28:48 1 0
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(i) - No
(ii) - still under investigation -as yet our 'experts' have not committed themselves, my feeling is it does, but until they do you have to say those who say 'no jab, no job' do not really have a safety of others point.
105
17/03/2021 14:30:54 0 2
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(i) No, (ii) Yes.
143
17/03/2021 14:36:36 2 0
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Have you been living in a cave since December?
29
17/03/2021 14:18:03 3 6
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Doesn’t sound like he’s afraid and why should he be if young and healthy. Average age of death from it is over average life expectancy
40
17/03/2021 14:21:08 3 1
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But life expectancy is based on your year of birth. As you get older thhe life expectancy of those left in your cohort increases because of those who have died along the way.
41
17/03/2021 14:21:10 55 3
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Text recd this morning. Booked vaccination for tomorrow. Very pleased.
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17/03/2021 14:16:31 181 25
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From what i hear on the TV today the EU wants to restrict vaccine exports, even though their vaccines are going off because their rollout is badly organised. Particular targets will be countries whose roll outs are in advance of theirs. Wonder who they're talking about ?
42
17/03/2021 14:21:18 162 24
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Yes, it's us.

Passing the buck for being, as usual, too slow to act & not ordering far enough in advance.

Their argument should be with the company NOT the country but they still want their British pound of flesh.
121
17/03/2021 14:32:50 49 7
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This is all part of the ongoing war that the EU has declared on the UK for daring to leave the corrupt bloc. Shellfish exports suddenly banned over night, Huge red tape imposed on our exports at every turn. Then their fiasco over vaccines. AZ is safe but because we got it 1st and ordered enough to cover our people the EU have gone mardy
460
17/03/2021 15:18:49 28 1
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Ursula von der Leyen is now casting blame across the Channel. What an eff-ing surprise!
17/03/2021 16:40:12 3 0
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Feels rather like the French blaming us for them being occupied in WW2.
33
17/03/2021 14:19:26 2 6
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We've got a 50+ mile round trip to get ours, so much for the 10 miles that was promised by Hancock. Even so, I would travel the moon to get it.
43
17/03/2021 14:21:41 11 2
bbc
Really? Sounds more like a local admin error than anything else
167
17/03/2021 14:39:39 1 1
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You always get this when you first try and book, I think that it is because they set the appointments up expecting students to be back in university so there are lots of availability in university towns, not so much in working towns I live in Swindon and they tried to send me to Oxford, Bristol, Bath etc, I held out and finally got a local one)
34
17/03/2021 14:19:46 14 4
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Hospitalisations should now be going down and restrictions easing should be fine, or are we still going off the number of infections? If it’s the latter, we will be in lockdown forever.
44
17/03/2021 14:22:15 8 19
bbc
The goal posts were shifted a while ago. Remember when it was all about hospitalisations, then vaccinating the top 4 groups. I can see lockdowns not getting fully ended ever.
154
17/03/2021 14:37:59 2 0
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And why do you think the government would do that? To keep the tax take down so it's more difficult to repay the debt? Try thinking!
33
17/03/2021 14:19:26 2 6
bbc
We've got a 50+ mile round trip to get ours, so much for the 10 miles that was promised by Hancock. Even so, I would travel the moon to get it.
45
17/03/2021 14:22:50 3 1
bbc
I am sure you could have got one nearer than that.
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17/03/2021 14:29:35 1 1
bbc
I would have thought so - I was offered 3 venues, all within 8 miles of my home. I just booked at the one that had the earliest availability. Although I suppose it does vary according to where you live.
10
17/03/2021 14:13:34 2 1
bbc
Our local GPs' surgery hasn't done all its over 65s yet.
46
17/03/2021 14:22:51 1 0
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Complain, ask why they are so behind. Contact your CCG who are probably coordinating roll out. There are no excuses if roll out to over 50's is now happening.
74
17/03/2021 14:26:53 0 0
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I understand it's because the vaccine is going to the mass vaccination centres, instead of to the local GPs. Not everyone can/wants to make a 40 mile round trip to the suggested mass vaccintation centre.
47
17/03/2021 14:23:00 4 18
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The earlier you get a jab the sooner you can get away from the UK.
That surely has to be an incentive .
88
17/03/2021 14:28:14 1 5
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The only reason to have one in my mind...
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17/03/2021 14:14:09 76 6
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Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.
48
17/03/2021 14:23:03 75 2
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Every medication and medical procedure has possible side effects. If everybody took notice of these possibilities nobody would ever have a drug or operation. For example 1 in 1000 people having a hip operation can get blood clots (source NHS website) which is certainly a lot more risky than it seems to be from having the vaccine or catching Covid, so I would NOT be too concerned.
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nic
17/03/2021 14:32:58 0 19
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You’re wrong
501
17/03/2021 15:26:36 4 0
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Totally agree - I wonder how many people ever bother to read the leaflet of possible side effects on a packet of over- the- counter medication, like, say, Paracetamol, before popping a couple.
39
17/03/2021 14:20:53 2 0
bbc
I'm booked in for next week ??

Although I would like to know:

(i) Does every have to have the first vaccine before we roll out the second one?

(ii) Can we carry/infect others even after being vaccinated?
49
17/03/2021 14:23:07 5 0
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That's why some have already had the second dose.
50
17/03/2021 14:23:10 271 32
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Got mine tomorrow, not bothered if AZ or Pfizer, the key is getting vaccinated. I can't help but feel that the reluctance of the EU member states to use AZ is driven by their desire to create some smoke/cover for their gross ineptitude in managing anything COVID related. The AZ story is just smoke and mirrors from a Union with no effective leadership. BTW I am an remainer before anyone starts...
193
17/03/2021 14:44:17 100 49
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I'd just point out that it's individual countries making that choice, not the EU as an organisational entity. It's as though they have their own sovereign right to make decisions or something...
207
17/03/2021 14:46:44 31 5
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France and Italy are approaching 500 Covid deaths a day and still rising because of the EU's ineptitude in getting a good vaccine order in early.
The EU have failed their biggest test, dreadfully too.
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17/03/2021 14:41:35 49 1
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Here-here ... got mine Saturday ... but the paranoia out there is mind-boggling ... talk about people being frightened of their own shadows !!!

The anti-vaxers call it being a sheep, if we follow respected science ... whereas of course they to are also sheep ... but just following mindless and unfounded nonsense on paranoiacs-r-us.com !!
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17/03/2021 14:47:22 23 4
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Well said all round. Good luck and hopefully you'll not suffer adverse side effects. I didn't.
The EU is too big and cannot react rapidly to changes in situation when centralising procurement of vaccines, or anything. Whether they're scapegoating OAZ vaccine or not is irrelevant. Too much power in the hands of people without the necessary skills combined with control freakery.
272
17/03/2021 14:57:57 1 7
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USA keeps unused 30 millions of AstraZeneca vaccines in the warehouses. You can start b*tching now.
282
17/03/2021 14:59:55 23 0
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The Pfizer one has had more blood clot issues linked to it than the OAZ, still a tiny amount but they re keeping quite about that!

BTW, Italy has admitted that the ban on the OAZ Is political!

Search other news outlets, they won't admit that on here!
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17/03/2021 15:07:15 12 11
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So what about the non-EU countries who have paused the AZ vaccine roll-out? And in case you hadn't noticed, the EU regulator said it's safe. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your quitter narrative.
540
17/03/2021 15:30:56 9 0
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I agree theres more to this. They dont "want" the AZ vaccine but have threatened to boycott exports of vaccines particularly to countries doing well with their vaccination programmes.
562
17/03/2021 15:34:55 1 19
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You really should be bothered about which vaccine you choose.
584
17/03/2021 15:38:46 3 1
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Well said. I'm looking forward to getting mine in athe nextfew weeks as well. I'm also a remainer but honestly cannot fathom what the EU is up to here - they're having an absolute shocker on this one.
695
17/03/2021 15:58:32 1 0
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Oh you Remoaner.lol.
I am a Leaver btw. Fair play to you.??
710
17/03/2021 15:59:53 4 0
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Me too, looking forward to having it... as well as a Maccy D on the way home, which is a treat I only usually get after donating blood, so tomorrow is a win/win for me! :-)
861
17/03/2021 16:22:17 0 0
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Nothing like a remainer finally seeing the truth about the EU. Many good things there but many bad as well and now its all beginning to emerge . Merkel put her in that position and decided to dismiss her corruption case. No she is turning into some kind of dictator
17/03/2021 16:39:32 0 0
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I think you might be right. I did hear one commentary that said that those countries who have put a pause on the AZ vaccine can do so because they are low on supplies anyway so a few days' pause makes little difference.
17/03/2021 16:40:47 0 0
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Of course it is. Trying to spin their slow ineptitude into a prudent and caring narrative. Pure spin.
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17/03/2021 14:16:45 11 24
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Once this is done and you’re under 50 and healthy there’s no reason for you to have the vaccine. The chance of death is so so low. Do young people get a flu jab each winter? No, it’s only vulnerable category. The vaccine lessens symptoms if you get the virus. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus or passing it on. Time to open up after the vulnerable have had their jabs. Let’s get moving!
51
17/03/2021 14:23:21 1 8
bbc
Absolutely - why take a risk of a vaccine that gives you very little benefit, and the ones who we are being guilt tripped about are all vaccinated.
150
17/03/2021 14:37:19 6 2
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Plenty of people in their 20s, 30s and 40s have died, been extremely ill, suffered organ damage, ended up with long Covid... You don't even need to be overweight. You can't necessarily predict who is at risk of becoming severely ill. Millions have had the vaccine and it is safe, so why not have it?
23
17/03/2021 14:16:45 11 24
bbc
Once this is done and you’re under 50 and healthy there’s no reason for you to have the vaccine. The chance of death is so so low. Do young people get a flu jab each winter? No, it’s only vulnerable category. The vaccine lessens symptoms if you get the virus. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus or passing it on. Time to open up after the vulnerable have had their jabs. Let’s get moving!
52
17/03/2021 14:23:37 4 2
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You might want to take a look again at some of those statements
184
17/03/2021 14:43:30 1 1
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No point looking - if you don't have the brains to work it out first time there's little chance you will second time. This kind of nonsense needs taking down.
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
53
17/03/2021 14:23:53 5 1
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Why do you say that Pfizer is the best? When I arrived at the centre for my jab I was told that they were swopping over from one to the other and I had the choice of going to the left or right, just because I was at that point in the queue. I chose the Oxford Jab because it is okay for the 12 week delay between jabs but the wait was not approved by Pfizer for their jab. No blood clots here.
91
17/03/2021 14:27:51 1 3
bbc
'I chose the Oxford Jab because it is okay for the 12 week delay between jabs but the wait was not approved by Pfizer for their jab. '

Pfizer approved it against advice to make a few bob. It was never emprically tested at 12 weeks. Boris paid for approval. Only one clot I'm afraid.
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17/03/2021 14:19:46 14 4
bbc
Hospitalisations should now be going down and restrictions easing should be fine, or are we still going off the number of infections? If it’s the latter, we will be in lockdown forever.
54
17/03/2021 14:24:04 4 0
bbc
Agree, was the argument all along 'to take the pressure off the NHS', which is clearly happening.
2
17/03/2021 14:11:22 123 23
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The brave plucky British vaccine was initially slow out of the blocks, stumbled then stumbled again, had many detractors and those simply wishing to put it down.

But still it pushes on, one step in front of the other until it went on to vaccinate most of the world.
55
17/03/2021 14:24:05 3 18
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bs - quitter I take it.
32
17/03/2021 14:19:26 4 4
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Website still not accepting bookings for those newly included. Spoke to the helpline and it takes 24hrs to update eligibility - as if this came as a massive surprise to those working on it.
56
17/03/2021 14:24:09 2 1
bbc
Thanks for the update Stu, same situation for me.
114
17/03/2021 14:31:51 1 0
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I know of 52 Yr old got her text yesterday booked in for jab tomorrow.
57
17/03/2021 14:24:10 14 4
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GB for the win!
23
17/03/2021 14:16:45 11 24
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Once this is done and you’re under 50 and healthy there’s no reason for you to have the vaccine. The chance of death is so so low. Do young people get a flu jab each winter? No, it’s only vulnerable category. The vaccine lessens symptoms if you get the virus. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus or passing it on. Time to open up after the vulnerable have had their jabs. Let’s get moving!
58
17/03/2021 14:24:16 9 3
bbc
This is both wrong and dangerous advice. The virus will mutate in unvaccinated people, perhaps into variants that are resistant to the vaccines already delivered. Shame on you. Shame.
109
17/03/2021 14:31:25 1 5
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This is true mate. I get my information from a virus expect who was on Joe Rogan. Don’t know where your sources are from.
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
59
17/03/2021 14:24:35 4 0
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Your informed opinion? Presume you are highly qualified in drug development to be able to issue this expert advice . All vaccines being used have passed all approvals from the UK medical experts. I hope you are not inferring you won't accept the Oxford - AZ one?
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17/03/2021 14:13:41 47 3
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From what I see and this post from December predicting almost exactly the panic in other countries based on nothing more than coincidence, the AZ vaccine is safe. Rather like the fake panic about MMR which was also based on coincidence alone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55216047
60
17/03/2021 14:24:44 50 2
bbc
Had my first dose yesterday (AZ) and feeling fine - not even an aching arm. Folks really shouldn't let the anti-vax blather get in the way of their health.
726
17/03/2021 16:01:54 2 2
bbc
Me too. I understand it's quite likely we will both have a rough night...1 in 2 said my nurse, but should be OK by tomorrow with luck.
61
17/03/2021 14:22:52 5 5
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'what has baffled experts is why some nations have paused rollout in the meantime.'

It won't baffle the experts who have decided to pause usage. You mean 'some experts'

'EVEN the European regulator says vaccination should continue'

Why 'even'?

This article has been written by a child, surely?
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17/03/2021 14:36:58 8 1
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Baffling experts because as Prof Timsit from the University of Paris put it "if you vaccinate 100,000 people over 50 years (old) today rather than tomorrow you have 15 fewer deaths". That's 15 for every day of delay. Multiply x10 for every million doses not given. Dwarfs any potential side effect
360
17/03/2021 15:07:45 0 0
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The BBC and indeed all expert driven media are selective about use of word “expert”. It’s “expert” only when it fits the narrative. Otherwise as you say we rarely get to hear if there are multiple “expert” opinions, or even what “expert” means in a particular domain of knowledge (eg planetary orbits with decades of scientific data, vs a coronavirus with a few months data)
7
17/03/2021 14:11:58 70 23
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Are you watching Europe ? because this is how its done.
62
17/03/2021 14:25:01 3 7
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bleargh - embarrassing.
12
17/03/2021 14:14:09 76 6
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Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.
63
17/03/2021 14:25:18 3 0
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Correction to numbers on risks after hip surgery - 2% can possibly get DVT
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
64
17/03/2021 14:25:23 4 0
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You won't have a choice of know which you hav e had until afterwards .I had O/A Z many weeks ago and am perfectly happy.
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Tim
17/03/2021 14:25:33 25 0
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Having mine today. Hopefully it is the AZ but I am not really fussy either way.
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17/03/2021 14:16:31 181 25
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From what i hear on the TV today the EU wants to restrict vaccine exports, even though their vaccines are going off because their rollout is badly organised. Particular targets will be countries whose roll outs are in advance of theirs. Wonder who they're talking about ?
66
bbc
? You are an embarrassment. Removed
19
17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
67
17/03/2021 14:25:41 2 1
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Yep - take that experimental mRNA vaccine over the others that use more trusted technology. You have swallowed the propaganda whole.

Let's just hope that when long term safety data is available we aren't all left looking stupid - or worse, with long term life affecting conditions.
533
17/03/2021 15:30:27 1 0
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Did your Tin Foil Hat come with a safety data sheet too?
22
17/03/2021 14:16:44 5 1
bbc
You have to wait until you're invited. If you have, and can't do it online, ring up and speak to an actual person, then you'll be able to get it booked. That's what I did as I prefer to speak to a hooman!
68
17/03/2021 14:25:49 2 0
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Deborah the first line of this news item reads "People aged 50 and over in England are now being invited to book their appointment for a Covid vaccine". Have I misunderstood that?
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17/03/2021 14:31:52 0 0
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It really is very simple and both impressive, you will just get a text or equivalent and then simply book a slot - can't see how anybody could possibly moan about it - 30 seconds max to book - 10 mins for jab - great work to all involved
69
17/03/2021 14:26:01 30 2
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The UK could donate any spare vaccine to the internationally agreed COVAX scheme to help less advantaged countries. The EU can apply to Covax if it feels it has a case.
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Tim
17/03/2021 14:30:57 28 1
bbc
Lol, this is about politics and Brexit so don't apply any logic to what the E.U leaders may do next. The only thing that is for sure is this will cost them in the polls when their public realise they gambled with their citizens lives try to score points over the U.K.
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17/03/2021 14:31:24 7 2
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If there is any spare, should be Commonwealth first
530
17/03/2021 15:30:06 0 1
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UK citizens living in France would love to use up any you can spare, the french system is so hopeless we may have to wait another year to get vaccinated here.
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KP
17/03/2021 14:26:27 135 15
bbc
Had mine today (AZ), no side effects yet. Very well organised at the The Black Country Living museum. Judging by the throughput while I was there the EU attempts to derail /discredit the AZ vaccine have fallen on deaf ears in the UK.
86
17/03/2021 14:28:08 29 4
bbc
Bostin'!
98
17/03/2021 14:29:47 12 0
bbc
Mine was done 3 weeks ago in Dudley,no prob's apart from a sore are which cleared in a couple of days.
183
17/03/2021 14:43:30 3 0
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KP had mine last week. Only side effect for me was a slightly sore arm the day after.
626
17/03/2021 15:45:01 6 0
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Might have seen you/let you through...I was stewarding on the front gate...????, Glad you had a good experience, nice to hear positivity x x
673
17/03/2021 15:54:14 5 5
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Had mine a couple weeks back (Pfizer 1st). I can honestly say it was the best experience I've had this last year - excellent management, efficient, safe, friendly and quick and the low murmur of conversation (remember that?) from those waiting was a joy. Thanks to the health professionals and volunteer staff involved. As far as I'm concerned 10% pay rise is a minimum - get onto it Boris!
855
17/03/2021 16:21:44 4 0
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Had mine today as well. Hundreds of volunteers, tens of NHS staff all doing a fantastic job. I applaud them all.
2
17/03/2021 14:11:22 123 23
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The brave plucky British vaccine was initially slow out of the blocks, stumbled then stumbled again, had many detractors and those simply wishing to put it down.

But still it pushes on, one step in front of the other until it went on to vaccinate most of the world.
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xlr
17/03/2021 14:26:28 9 4
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But it's just a vaccine, not a national treasure. What's important is that people are vaccinated properly with whatever is best to hand.

Have you lot ever seen what happens to a typical pharma or vaccine and how many times it gets pulled or questioned? No, unlike me who has worked in pharma, you haven't because this is the first time you cared about vaccines or where they came from.
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OwO
17/03/2021 14:45:38 5 1
bbc
Citations and statistics please, not just some vague assertion that because you pretend to work in pharma on an anonymous forum, you must be correct.
499
17/03/2021 15:26:29 0 4
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so tell us as youre such an expert - how many aborted babies does it take to harvest all the cells needed to make a batch?
72
17/03/2021 14:26:31 3 6
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While I applaud the fast roll out of the vaccines to give the impression that all who are over 55 have been vaccinated is a bit misleading. I am in the 60/65 age group and got my invite on the first of March. After more than 100 attempts to book an appointment I eventually got one for the 5th April. That is still nearly 3 weeks away and they are now saying that they are on to the 50/55 age group??
95
17/03/2021 14:29:08 2 0
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What part of the country do you live in?
99
17/03/2021 14:29:55 2 0
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Yes. Specifically they’re on to inviting the 50/55 age group. Some areas of the country that age group will even get their vaccine straight away.
127
17/03/2021 14:33:41 0 0
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The online booking system is a bit quirky. You could ask your GP for help?
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17/03/2021 14:43:06 0 3
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I too have been trying for over a week to get my jab Offering me appointments over 30 miles away is ridiculous in a pandemic Why have the local independent pharmacies not been utilised There is no way I am running through to the nearest city to boost tax avoiding Boots profits
188
17/03/2021 14:43:47 0 0
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Unfortunately you probably live in a working town, move to a university town where there is lots of availability as the students are still off.
73
17/03/2021 14:26:35 85 13
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Meanwhile the EU has gone off on one again. Not only have they tried to rubbish the AZ jab repeatedly. Now they have said they will ban its export from the EU to the rest of the world and in particular the UK. EU screwed up, blaming everyone but themselves and still people like Sturgeon wants to let these useless idiots run her country. Brexit will get worse before it gets better.
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17/03/2021 15:01:45 35 60
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You seem to forget that over 125,000 people have died from Covid in this country, vastly more than any other country in Europe. Rolling out the vaccine quicker than the EU doesn't make up for that.
46
17/03/2021 14:22:51 1 0
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Complain, ask why they are so behind. Contact your CCG who are probably coordinating roll out. There are no excuses if roll out to over 50's is now happening.
74
17/03/2021 14:26:53 0 0
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I understand it's because the vaccine is going to the mass vaccination centres, instead of to the local GPs. Not everyone can/wants to make a 40 mile round trip to the suggested mass vaccintation centre.
104
17/03/2021 14:30:52 1 0
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You just need to persevere with the booking system, give it a few hours and a local centre will come up.
12
17/03/2021 14:14:09 76 6
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Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.
75
17/03/2021 14:26:55 0 7
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Pretty normal actually - usual tory crime but you learn to live with it.
32
17/03/2021 14:19:26 4 4
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Website still not accepting bookings for those newly included. Spoke to the helpline and it takes 24hrs to update eligibility - as if this came as a massive surprise to those working on it.
76
17/03/2021 14:27:02 1 0
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Strange that as I personally know of 4 50-54 year olds who have all booked their appointments this morning
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17/03/2021 14:27:07 2 5
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Deborah Geller
14:14
Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.'

Pretty normal actually - usual tory crime but you learn to live with it.
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17/03/2021 14:32:04 4 1
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Some small side effects or Covid19? You choose. It’s perfectly safe. Go for it!
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17/03/2021 14:15:22 4 7
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Has anyone confirmed that having the vaccine stops you carrying and infecting others? It's all very well people in the UK being safe but I don't want to travel abroad if I'm going to infect people who haven't been vaccinated.
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17/03/2021 14:25:04 1 0
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Lots of people have died from COVID a month or more after vaccination. Thousands. So caution isnt a bad plan for the older population.
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17/03/2021 14:15:07 47 98
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I'll never vote for them because of Brexit but no one can deny that the vaccine roll out has been a staggering success.

However it is a success in isolation unless we start accelerating the lifting of restrictions and let the population work, travel and meet. We need to capitalise on this success and lift all restrictions asap.
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Ads
17/03/2021 14:27:20 23 8
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You won't vote for them because they actioned the will of the people?
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17/03/2021 15:05:42 5 12
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the will of a mere quarter of the people, it was only a quarter of the population who voted for Brexit, get it right, poorly thought out self harming referendum with just a minority of ill informed people dictating the future of the majority. Still, the vaccines going well and who wanted to go to Europe anyway, 3/4 of the people probably :-)
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Sam
17/03/2021 15:30:12 3 3
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I won't vote for them because they lied and coerced people into voting for Brexit. Just because people vote for stuff doesn't make it a good idea - there are plenty of examples through history which prove that. Not having the courage to tell their voters that Brexit was a terrible idea is what is shameful.
826
17/03/2021 16:17:27 2 2
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Oh dear, are you seriously still yelling 'the will of the people'? You lot must be even more desperate than I realised.
17/03/2021 16:37:32 3 1
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They dont see it that way . Democracy took a real beating over Brexit with remainers refusing to accept the will of the people regardless of the margins
33
17/03/2021 14:19:26 2 6
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We've got a 50+ mile round trip to get ours, so much for the 10 miles that was promised by Hancock. Even so, I would travel the moon to get it.
80
17/03/2021 14:27:28 2 1
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Was initially offered Blackburn or Lancaster, and I'm in North Yorkshire. Waited a day and got one a mile from home.
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17/03/2021 14:14:09 76 6
bbc
Bring it on - got mine next week. Yes, I'm a bit nervous about side-effects, but it's got to be done. I know loads of people who have had the first one weeks ago. The last year has been horrendous for everyone, and this is our only ticket out of it, like it or not.
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17/03/2021 14:27:36 13 2
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Had mine (AZ) early Feb.

Apart from very mild cold/flu like symptoms for about 3-4 hours the next morning, plus a bit of a stiff arm, I was fine and dandy.

The sense of relief is brilliant.

Good luck with it Deborah.
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17/03/2021 15:10:29 4 0
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Thank you. Nice to get a kind remark.
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17/03/2021 14:27:45 123 8
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I can't make up my mind whether the mess the EU got itself into over the AstraZeneca vaccine is due to sour grapes cut-off-nose-to-spite-face anti-UK sentiment, or another manifestation of the precautionary principle the EU always takes to extremes.

Either way, I hope for all our sakes that they don't have to pay too high a price for their (in)decisions. We all want to return to normal asap.
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17/03/2021 14:37:20 121 20
bbc
The EU have behaved disgracefully!
756
17/03/2021 16:06:54 5 2
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Anti British 100%. EU are so bitter we left EU. EU So Jealous that we organised and arranged Vaccination program over 3 months ahead of any other country. While the EU Vaccination program turned in to a DISASTER, while EU governments argued over money, who get's what, supply's etc. EU as per norm, are a total Undemocratic, Narcissistic, British 'hating' 'Organisation'. Spoiled Bratts comes to mind
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17/03/2021 16:18:53 0 1
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Its the product of hubris. The EU procurement program made assumptions on supply chains that they are now having to deal with aggressively. Not uncommon in business supply chains with the exception that this feud is being played out in public.
17/03/2021 16:59:33 0 0
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Unfortunately we have already paid the price of 125000 deaths
17/03/2021 17:00:31 0 0
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Does returning to normal include returning to the EU?
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17/03/2021 14:14:32 106 13
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Fascinated to see how the EU intends to block vaccines bound for the UK etc, when 17 countries within the block don't want them?? Glad to see the EU's messaging is as clear as ever.
83
17/03/2021 14:27:48 9 55
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? How do you conclude that ?
478
17/03/2021 15:23:31 2 0
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Have a look at today's Le Monde (your browser cn translate it for you I expect) it says much the same as famousnumbernine.
17/03/2021 16:51:06 0 0
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Watch the news.
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17/03/2021 14:15:22 4 7
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Has anyone confirmed that having the vaccine stops you carrying and infecting others? It's all very well people in the UK being safe but I don't want to travel abroad if I'm going to infect people who haven't been vaccinated.
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17/03/2021 14:27:52 2 0
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The latest I read is that the AZ one cuts the risk of infecting others by about 30% but that may have changed. They won’t actually be able to quantify it for several months, I suspect.
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17/03/2021 14:30:10 0 0
bbc
Where did you read that? Seriously, can you reference, I'd like to read it. So hard to ask a genuine question on here, I feel like I have to over egg the sincerity.
9
17/03/2021 14:13:25 33 1
bbc
Still some way to go but we're heading in the right direction. ??
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17/03/2021 14:27:59 8 10
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We hope.
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KP
17/03/2021 14:26:27 135 15
bbc
Had mine today (AZ), no side effects yet. Very well organised at the The Black Country Living museum. Judging by the throughput while I was there the EU attempts to derail /discredit the AZ vaccine have fallen on deaf ears in the UK.
86
17/03/2021 14:28:08 29 4
bbc
Bostin'!
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bbc
Why is there no reporting on the EU’s latest posturing on vaccine exports given the potential impact on the UK ? Better ask Sky News..... Removed
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17/03/2021 14:23:00 4 18
bbc
The earlier you get a jab the sooner you can get away from the UK.
That surely has to be an incentive .
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17/03/2021 14:28:14 1 5
bbc
The only reason to have one in my mind...
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17/03/2021 14:36:02 2 0
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Wrong again - it'll be in your arm!
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17/03/2021 14:17:34 271 20
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Great to see progress.

Great to see positivity and action in the UK.

We hope our neighbours in Europe get vaccinated soon too.
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17/03/2021 14:28:16 97 11
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Hopefully because there is no normality until all border restrictions, masks on planes and testing are abolished. Can't come too soon.
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17/03/2021 14:48:08 15 7
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Unlikely in the near future.

France and other EU nations were polling at sub 50% take up, one in Feb put Fra at 40pc cf UK over 80pc.

That was done pre the AZ negativity and current suspensions. Likely to inevitably harden anti vaxx/ hesitency scaring more away.

Normal is not going to be normal for years if ever.
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17/03/2021 15:00:48 1 11
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I am worried about all the variants. I read today in the paper that there is now a 'Phillipine' variant. Whatever next!
514
17/03/2021 15:28:29 1 2
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That will take years - expect to require evidence of vaccination to travel overseas for at least 5 years I reckon
757
17/03/2021 16:06:56 1 0
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You're kidding yourself if you think you can inject freedom.
17/03/2021 16:45:10 1 0
bbc
Apparently 8 people like having all these restrictions in their lives. It must be that this is all very exciting compared to their normal life. There’s nowt as queer as folk !
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17/03/2021 14:28:31 17 4
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Let us protect British Healthcare after this - no US buy-outs :)
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17/03/2021 14:32:01 3 7
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Would you rather Russian, Chinese or French?

Capital is global, by the way. And American investors are predictable and governed by law at least as tough as ours.
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17/03/2021 14:39:10 1 1
bbc
You'll be sorely disappointed won't you? The systematic shuttering of certain services was to help pave the way to privatisation and you've all been clapping and smashing your pots and pans together and allowed it to happen.

Mark my words, the NHS will cease to exist by the end of the decade
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17/03/2021 14:23:53 5 1
bbc
Why do you say that Pfizer is the best? When I arrived at the centre for my jab I was told that they were swopping over from one to the other and I had the choice of going to the left or right, just because I was at that point in the queue. I chose the Oxford Jab because it is okay for the 12 week delay between jabs but the wait was not approved by Pfizer for their jab. No blood clots here.
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17/03/2021 14:27:51 1 3
bbc
'I chose the Oxford Jab because it is okay for the 12 week delay between jabs but the wait was not approved by Pfizer for their jab. '

Pfizer approved it against advice to make a few bob. It was never emprically tested at 12 weeks. Boris paid for approval. Only one clot I'm afraid.
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17/03/2021 14:15:31 1 40
bbc
I'll get it, if it's Pfizer on offer that day
By far the better vaccine
92
17/03/2021 14:28:42 3 0
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Please post your source for your evidence of it being a better vaccine as I would like to read it so I can make an informed judgment
39
17/03/2021 14:20:53 2 0
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I'm booked in for next week ??

Although I would like to know:

(i) Does every have to have the first vaccine before we roll out the second one?

(ii) Can we carry/infect others even after being vaccinated?
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17/03/2021 14:28:48 1 0
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(i) - No
(ii) - still under investigation -as yet our 'experts' have not committed themselves, my feeling is it does, but until they do you have to say those who say 'no jab, no job' do not really have a safety of others point.
94
17/03/2021 14:28:25 2 16
bbc
I just hope the vaccine is safe, beeb.
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17/03/2021 14:32:32 8 0
bbc
You don't need to hope (or ask the 'Beeb'). Knowledgeable scientists have done that already.
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17/03/2021 14:26:31 3 6
bbc
While I applaud the fast roll out of the vaccines to give the impression that all who are over 55 have been vaccinated is a bit misleading. I am in the 60/65 age group and got my invite on the first of March. After more than 100 attempts to book an appointment I eventually got one for the 5th April. That is still nearly 3 weeks away and they are now saying that they are on to the 50/55 age group??
95
17/03/2021 14:29:08 2 0
bbc
What part of the country do you live in?
134
17/03/2021 14:35:10 0 0
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North east
96
17/03/2021 14:29:14 89 8
bbc
I had my AZ jab today (51). Very happy to have had it, and was really impressed with the smooth efficiency of the centre and the cheery folk who staffed it.
585
17/03/2021 15:38:51 27 2
bbc
I had mine on Sunday in Essex and can't speak highly enough of the NHS staff and volunteers. I also think the impact of the Brigadier and his team from the army has helped with the organisation
692
17/03/2021 15:58:00 2 7
bbc
Well done. However, for the fit and healthy who are not very elderly, they will be taking a vaccine for something that cannot harm them. But it's an individual choice and each to their own.
45
17/03/2021 14:22:50 3 1
bbc
I am sure you could have got one nearer than that.
97
17/03/2021 14:29:35 1 1
bbc
I would have thought so - I was offered 3 venues, all within 8 miles of my home. I just booked at the one that had the earliest availability. Although I suppose it does vary according to where you live.
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KP
17/03/2021 14:26:27 135 15
bbc
Had mine today (AZ), no side effects yet. Very well organised at the The Black Country Living museum. Judging by the throughput while I was there the EU attempts to derail /discredit the AZ vaccine have fallen on deaf ears in the UK.
98
17/03/2021 14:29:47 12 0
bbc
Mine was done 3 weeks ago in Dudley,no prob's apart from a sore are which cleared in a couple of days.
128
17/03/2021 14:33:46 10 0
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I meant arm, Lol sorry.
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ant
17/03/2021 14:34:37 23 0
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Did you mistype M or miss out the S?
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17/03/2021 16:00:22 0 0
bbc
Lol.????
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17/03/2021 14:26:31 3 6
bbc
While I applaud the fast roll out of the vaccines to give the impression that all who are over 55 have been vaccinated is a bit misleading. I am in the 60/65 age group and got my invite on the first of March. After more than 100 attempts to book an appointment I eventually got one for the 5th April. That is still nearly 3 weeks away and they are now saying that they are on to the 50/55 age group??
99
17/03/2021 14:29:55 2 0
bbc
Yes. Specifically they’re on to inviting the 50/55 age group. Some areas of the country that age group will even get their vaccine straight away.
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17/03/2021 14:30:14 2 6
bbc
The NHS booking site is broken. The front page says over 50's are able to book a vaccination, but when you try to book it says you are not eligible yet....
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17/03/2021 14:31:51 4 0
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Not broken necessarily, just not updated yet to include younger age groups.