Democracy is in retreat, warns Dominic Raab
17/03/2021 | news | politics | 1,906
Dominic Raab says the UK should use its "clout" to be "a force for good in the world".
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17/03/2021 10:23:25 24 12
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Democracy is in retreat in the UK.

Bojo hides in a fridge just to avoid media scrutiny.

We need to get our own house in order before lecturing others.
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17/03/2021 10:31:44 12 10
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You should go to China and try posting a similar comment about their leader.
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17/03/2021 10:43:53 3 2
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You get a chance in less than 4yrs to kick him out. That's democracy.
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17/03/2021 10:23:33 241 34
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Ironic for Raab to say this after passing an anti-protesting bill yesterday.
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17/03/2021 10:24:57 130 22
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Which the BBC don't even mention
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17/03/2021 10:30:17 15 55
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Perhaps you should go to Russia or China, and try a street protest. Then you will be able to make a true comparison.
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17/03/2021 11:04:16 45 7
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I've discovered that the only accurate way to get to the truth, is to assume the exact opposite of everything that our government says. Seems to work every time !
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17/03/2021 11:15:27 35 3
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Yes Raab is a threat. UN treaty (NPT) came into force in 1970 recognises 5 countries including the UK, as nuclear-armed states. Article Six commits them "to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament". Boris plan to raise UK cap on nuclear warheads to 260 reverses the spirit of the UN NPT treaty
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17/03/2021 12:03:21 21 2
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Hugely! a very bad step and enough for me not to vote for them.
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17/03/2021 12:07:10 4 11
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Have you heard of "Stay at home"?
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17/03/2021 12:10:50 0 1
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You can tell which ones, it getting easier.
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17/03/2021 12:01:28 2 15
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But the bill doesn’t stop protests or outlaw protests.
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17/03/2021 13:40:11 0 10
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The bill passed yesterday actually makes very few changes to the law on protests. I've seen lots of fake news about it here and on Twitter (including from certain QCs who should know better) about it criminalising "nuisance" and "annoyance" - but you need to understand those terms have very specific meanings in UK common law - and that side of the bill is no different from existing legislation.
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17/03/2021 14:07:29 8 1
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The staggering gall of BBC reporting Raab's ironic comments whilst completely ignoring historically draconian policing legislation tabled in parliament last night & accompanying mass protests!!

Guardian:
https://t.co/FAO2MIXG9I?amp=1

The silence speaks volumes about BBC gatekeeping for the establishment.

You don't think anti-democratic restrictions for post-covid protests is relevant? Really??
SJ
17/03/2021 14:50:15 5 1
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And trying to change mayoral elections to first psst the post. Which the BBC has not mentioned.
17/03/2021 18:34:46 0 4
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Not anti protesting. Insisting on peaceful, thoughtful protest. The Country does not want aggressive and destructive protests at a time when people can protest without even leaving their home!
18/03/2021 08:52:09 1 0
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Dominic Raab should start his democratic agenda with Egypt - where there are atrocious and blatant human rights abuses for past decade and tens of thousands of young people locked up for years in prison, purely for their political views and beliefs.
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17/03/2021 10:25:03 83 12
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This country and other key western countries are not true democracies, they’re oligarchies with democratic principles pasted over as a smokescreen.

Oligarchs who own media outlets and big business influence politicians and voters to act in oligarchy interests, not in the best interest of voters.

None of this will change unless the majority see through this enough to seek their downfall.
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17/03/2021 10:29:07 19 74
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Extreme exaggeration.
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17/03/2021 11:26:26 11 2
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YES ITS CALLED TORY BRITAIN !
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17/03/2021 12:57:41 4 12
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'Oligarchs who own media outlets and big business influence politicians and voters to act in oligarchy interests, not in the best interest of voters.'

Speak for yourself BWhit. I try to gather info from all sides, weight it up myself and then make my own mind up. Just because you may be so easily influenced does not mean the rest of us are.
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17/03/2021 13:47:59 1 5
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So which countries would you say *are* 'true democracies'? I can't think of any where the media isn't owned by a handful of powerful individuals or else directly controlled by the state. You also overestimate the power of media. Just because many voters think differently from you or me, that doesn't mean they're all thick.
Generally the media is shaped by the plebian viewpoint - not vice versa.
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17/03/2021 13:53:24 2 5
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You mean let a bunch of left wing activists and agitators call the shots? No thanks I would rather have our imperfect democracy than what you would have planned for us.
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17/03/2021 10:25:20 71 12
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“Democracy is "in retreat", the foreign secretary warned......” And not just in the UK, he added, as the government attempts to rush the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill through parliament with minimum scrutiny and thereby allow senior police officers and the home secretary to restrict peaceful protest in unprecedented ways!
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17/03/2021 10:27:22 12 64
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Nonsense.
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17/03/2021 10:27:27 21 3
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The Brexit deal was rushed through in one day too and now it's clear what a bad deal it was.
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17/03/2021 10:36:22 6 18
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The left wing anti-Johnson moaners are on this thread today, very likely the same people who were complaining about the defence review yesterday.
If you really think that policing and the justice system operates in the UK as it does in places like Russia, China, or Iran, then you are deeply embittered and totally deluded.
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17/03/2021 13:58:28 0 5
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No they plan to restrict the sort of undemocratic protests we saw last year like black lives matter which were driven by black activists and left wing anarchists intent on destroying our culture and history. There was NO democratic mandate for this.
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17/03/2021 10:23:15 92 15
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Raab talking about democracy, the irony!
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17/03/2021 11:01:37 41 5
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If it takes lies to achieve the end result that's all well and good - for the Tories.

Not so much for the nation.
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17/03/2021 11:27:49 9 1
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Raab dosent even know what DOVER IS USED FOR OR WHERE IT IS !
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17/03/2021 12:13:45 2 2
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We live in a democracy.

Your perceived irony is vaporware.
18/03/2021 16:17:09 0 0
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You talking sense, how unlikely!
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17/03/2021 10:26:22 117 14
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Hey, first you have to clean up your own backyard before criticizing others.
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17/03/2021 11:03:52 75 16
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Absolutely, it's certainly in retreat in this country. And FPTP? 40% dominate 60%? Very democratic.
18/03/2021 16:12:44 0 0
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You are saying that the UK is as repressive as China or Russia?
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17/03/2021 10:23:33 241 34
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Ironic for Raab to say this after passing an anti-protesting bill yesterday.
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17/03/2021 10:24:57 130 22
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Which the BBC don't even mention
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17/03/2021 11:56:07 19 6
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They are a Tory mouthpiece after all even if they are normally a bit more centre right.
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It’s a plot??!
17/03/2021 15:08:38 0 4
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So get your news from ITV or Sky or the Mail online or anyone else that means you aren't on here bleating about the BBC
18/03/2021 11:05:57 2 0
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Because the BBC is now the State Broadcaster for the Tory Party
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17/03/2021 10:25:36 3 18
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Democracy is in retreat.
That's just in the UK you only have too
See the rejoin brigade .
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17/03/2021 10:31:39 7 0
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It seems to me democracy is thriving in UK - we have had brexit and the underclass have won
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17/03/2021 10:38:58 1 0
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Grow up!!
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17/03/2021 10:25:20 71 12
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“Democracy is "in retreat", the foreign secretary warned......” And not just in the UK, he added, as the government attempts to rush the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill through parliament with minimum scrutiny and thereby allow senior police officers and the home secretary to restrict peaceful protest in unprecedented ways!
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17/03/2021 10:27:22 12 64
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Nonsense.
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17/03/2021 10:25:20 71 12
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“Democracy is "in retreat", the foreign secretary warned......” And not just in the UK, he added, as the government attempts to rush the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill through parliament with minimum scrutiny and thereby allow senior police officers and the home secretary to restrict peaceful protest in unprecedented ways!
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17/03/2021 10:27:27 21 3
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The Brexit deal was rushed through in one day too and now it's clear what a bad deal it was.
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17/03/2021 10:28:18 52 11
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We have just had the policing bill. We are also encouraging trade with countries that engage in the equivalent of sending young children up chimneys. Wow! What a successful Tory government.
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17/03/2021 10:36:47 9 2
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Ahhh, those were the days. :-)
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17/03/2021 14:00:57 0 3
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If we only traded with countries with high morality and ethics we would starve to death
18/03/2021 07:47:15 3 0
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Tories......Bringing Les Mis to life and coming to your town soon.
18/03/2021 16:25:56 0 0
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Wow! Even by the standards of the BBC, this is a wild comment.
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17/03/2021 10:28:54 4 4
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Yes this is true. You only have to look a Ethiopia, Myanmar and Southern Syria where Russia and China have turned their backs, to see the dangers. The UN is toothless. The UN should be sending in peace keepers.
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17/03/2021 11:04:06 0 0
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Peacekeepers with TEETH.
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17/03/2021 10:25:03 83 12
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This country and other key western countries are not true democracies, they’re oligarchies with democratic principles pasted over as a smokescreen.

Oligarchs who own media outlets and big business influence politicians and voters to act in oligarchy interests, not in the best interest of voters.

None of this will change unless the majority see through this enough to seek their downfall.
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17/03/2021 10:29:07 19 74
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Extreme exaggeration.
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17/03/2021 10:42:00 19 3
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as opposed to your two-word answer which does not add any value to the conversation.
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17/03/2021 10:53:36 15 1
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You underestimate the mood.
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17/03/2021 10:39:10 13 2
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tory LIE - you get used to them ;)
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TC
17/03/2021 12:18:20 9 0
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That statement doesn't deny there being an element of truth.
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17/03/2021 12:53:29 13 2
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No he’s correct. It’s only those who are blind to what’s really going on that refuse to accept this truth. The Press have such control over the population that the ordinary person in the street can only come to a position based on their source of information. And The Tories are well versed in this deception. They back the press Barons who have the most to gain from Tory Policy.
18/03/2021 15:22:36 0 0
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Absolutely spot on actually so let’s start counting the months to the next GE.
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17/03/2021 10:29:41 43 7
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Over the past few years, here in the UK, nouns like 'Democracy' and 'Sovereignty' have totally lost any meaning. Might as well take them out of the Oxford Dictionary.
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17/03/2021 11:58:22 10 3
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Democracy? Just three words: House of Lords.
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17/03/2021 14:01:56 0 5
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Brexit was delivered. I believe it was the left that tried to defeat a democratic decision by the majority of people in the uk
18/03/2021 16:29:22 0 0
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Words like 'judgement' and 'proportion' have lost any meaning on this thread. Might as well take them out of the BBC dictionary.
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17/03/2021 10:23:33 241 34
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Ironic for Raab to say this after passing an anti-protesting bill yesterday.
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17/03/2021 10:30:17 15 55
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Perhaps you should go to Russia or China, and try a street protest. Then you will be able to make a true comparison.
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17/03/2021 10:34:37 51 4
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Don't be ridiculous, Russia and China don't claim to be democracies!
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17/03/2021 11:53:27 35 2
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Just because things are bad elsewhere doesn't mean we should follow them down that road.
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17/03/2021 11:57:40 28 2
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So you find a ten year sentence for protesting (I.e. expressing your freedom of speech) appropriate?...
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17/03/2021 12:04:51 25 6
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perhaps you should stop supporting the UK's worst gov in living memory. Why do support stopping the right to protect? is it because you are very rich?
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17/03/2021 12:56:30 14 0
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Are you suggesting that these are countries to emulate?
18/03/2021 11:01:26 1 0
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Myanmar would be a good one tp try atm.
18/03/2021 11:14:30 1 0
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Why, you only have to be a woman, holding a candle, on Clapham Common to feel the full force of the law?
Our rights are being eroded faster than the coast at Happisburgh, Norfolk.
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17/03/2021 10:30:58 8 6
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Raab has stated today that democracy is in retreat.

Yesterday the UK announced that it was increasing its stockpile of nuclear weapons.

I wonder how much of this sentiment is a direct result of the UK turning its back on the world to attempt to "go it alone" following Brexit?
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17/03/2021 10:36:13 1 0
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Nuclear weapons are almost certainly increasing because of updates, i.e. The old warhead exists at the same time as the new one. It is unlikely that we would have the launch capacity for more warheads.
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17/03/2021 10:31:21 26 6
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I wonder whether Dominic Raab can give us an example of a country that has been bombed into democracy?
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17/03/2021 10:34:44 15 9
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Germany and Japan?
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17/03/2021 14:04:42 0 1
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Germany and Japan.
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I think I will go on a noisy demo to protest.
You have got to hand it to dangerous men like Raab. Their cheek is astounding.
Exactly how is he going to help increase fairness and democracy? What does he want to do inside the UK? Maybe Proportional Representation.
How is a country bankrupt of ideas and unable to afford a war - see our Iraq and Afghanistan fiascos going to influence anybody?
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17/03/2021 10:25:36 3 18
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Democracy is in retreat.
That's just in the UK you only have too
See the rejoin brigade .
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17/03/2021 10:31:39 7 0
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It seems to me democracy is thriving in UK - we have had brexit and the underclass have won
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17/03/2021 10:45:59 2 0
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Jacob Rees-Mogg is in the underclass?
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17/03/2021 10:37:02 0 1
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Not with out Communist opposition
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17/03/2021 13:25:16 1 0
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Why do you refer to folk who voted for Brexit as 'the underclass'? It comes across as pompous and sneering. I know actuaries, financial advisors, doctors and solicitors who all voted for Brexit. Are they the underclass too???? And besides, someones job or 'social standing' does not make their vote or viewpoint worth any less than yours. 1 person 1 vote is how it works in the UK.
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17/03/2021 10:23:25 24 12
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Democracy is in retreat in the UK.

Bojo hides in a fridge just to avoid media scrutiny.

We need to get our own house in order before lecturing others.
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17/03/2021 10:31:44 12 10
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You should go to China and try posting a similar comment about their leader.
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17/03/2021 10:35:41 7 3
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Bojo is desperate to trade with them though, hence the government's hypocrisy.
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17/03/2021 10:38:05 4 3
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Could be that in a democracy we are, at the moment, allowed to do this.
Why are you comparing UK to a dictatorship?
We are not bound to kowtow to our leaders, perhaps the Tories believe we should?
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17/03/2021 10:39:52 3 1
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Shhhh - 10 years for whispering that HERE IN THE UK .
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17/03/2021 13:19:19 2 0
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Pointing the finger and crying they're worse than us is a very sad argument.
17/03/2021 15:04:40 0 0
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Is that what your aiming for ?????????????????????
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17/03/2021 10:31:50 12 15
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'Democracy is in retreat'

Is it if you ever read HYS, every HYS is filled with anti-democratic comments from the bitter few who cannot move on over the E.U. & the failure of the Left to gain power
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17/03/2021 10:37:29 4 4
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You have to admit it is very amusing reading their endless sanctimonious self-righteous posts though....
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17/03/2021 10:36:43 0 0
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Bent Lies from the likes of cummings do not = 'democracy' thicko.
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17/03/2021 10:32:10 8 5
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The EU was stopping deals with these countries but after Brexit the UK is about to forget all that....
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17/03/2021 10:43:20 0 2
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Which countries was the EI stopping deals with?

The only country meentioned is China, and the EU have just signed a new one.
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17/03/2021 10:32:36 11 5
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Comment posted by fred, today at 10:25fred
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"Democracy is in retreat.
That's just in the UK you only have too
See the rejoin brigade" .

What a strange statement from a brexiteer.
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17/03/2021 10:32:40 47 19
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Democracy is defiantly in retreat in England...it is a one party state!
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What a government voted in power by the people

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17/03/2021 10:57:55 3 9
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Suits me !
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17/03/2021 11:42:49 3 9
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If the other parties were worth voting for they might stand a chance. Labour has poisoned itself with the Corbyn and Blair years, LibUndems are a disappearing joke, and the SNP appears to lie even more than the Conservatives.
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17/03/2021 14:04:08 2 5
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The working classes turned on Labour because they hate this country, supported mass immigration are anti white and smear us all as racists and tried to overturn a democratic vote on brexit
18/03/2021 16:36:12 0 0
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You must be an SNP voter.
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17/03/2021 10:34:09 31 9
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Democracy is in retreat in the U.K. all right: centralised power with local govt starved of cash, crony contracts, a policing bill that values statues over women and which will stamp on protest, right wing newspapers that destroy any opposition and cheer anything from their puppet Prime Minister. Probably the first truth Raab has spoken in quite a while.
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17/03/2021 10:57:04 5 0
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The non-dom owned, EU opposing / Brexit supporting newspapers have been feeding their readers with their alternative facts for years.

One could opine that they are a form of political campaigning....
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17/03/2021 14:06:18 0 1
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You need to spend some time in African and Muslim countries and you will then appreciate how lucky you are.
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17/03/2021 10:34:14 21 5
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Nobody ever talks about the cost of the new F35 fighter.
Just google and see what the US thinks to the cost....
£36,000 per hour to fly and each one costs around $1Bn - NHS, Nurses???
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Get invaded and there will be no NHS...
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They are amazing bits of kit though.

I am glad we have them at our disposal.
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17/03/2021 10:31:21 26 6
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I wonder whether Dominic Raab can give us an example of a country that has been bombed into democracy?
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17/03/2021 10:34:44 15 9
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Germany and Japan?
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You've got him there !!
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No they were bombed to prevent global destruction !
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17/03/2021 12:22:15 2 1
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Germany was a democracy prior to WW2

Japan's Taisho Era (1912-1926) saw major democratic gains, and was on its way to democracy until right-wing ultra-nationalism and the dominance of the armed forces set Imperial Japan on a disastrous geopolitical course after 1930.
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17/03/2021 10:35:19 25 6
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More distraction.

Cummings' work I shouldn't wonder.
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You should go to China and try posting a similar comment about their leader.
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17/03/2021 10:35:41 7 3
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Bojo is desperate to trade with them though, hence the government's hypocrisy.
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17/03/2021 10:34:14 21 5
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Nobody ever talks about the cost of the new F35 fighter.
Just google and see what the US thinks to the cost....
£36,000 per hour to fly and each one costs around $1Bn - NHS, Nurses???
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Get invaded and there will be no NHS...
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17/03/2021 10:42:33 6 2
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Don't abuse international law and stick our noses in where it is none of our business for the sakes of the vested interests of the rich in our society, then no-one will want to invade us.
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17/03/2021 10:38:11 4 1
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Who'd want to invade us?!
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17/03/2021 10:45:38 5 0
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Invasion is last millennium, look what a tiny virus can achieve
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Voting tory is guaranteed to kill the NHS.
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17/03/2021 12:17:09 3 1
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Oh, are the Normans coming again?
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17/03/2021 10:30:58 8 6
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Raab has stated today that democracy is in retreat.

Yesterday the UK announced that it was increasing its stockpile of nuclear weapons.

I wonder how much of this sentiment is a direct result of the UK turning its back on the world to attempt to "go it alone" following Brexit?
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17/03/2021 10:36:13 1 0
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Nuclear weapons are almost certainly increasing because of updates, i.e. The old warhead exists at the same time as the new one. It is unlikely that we would have the launch capacity for more warheads.
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17/03/2021 11:11:07 0 0
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Don't confuse them with basic common sense Granola....
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It’s terrible isn’t it. Govts that close down their parliaments, turn a blind eye to cronyism absorbing vast sums of taxpayers’ money, accept bullying from senior leadership & deliberately go about breaking international law. All enabled by voting systems that favour existing large parties & disenfranchise millions of voters.

I hear there are other nations where democracy is in retreat as well...
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17/03/2021 10:43:05 48 4
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And are now acting to restrict the right to protest.
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17/03/2021 14:05:22 2 0
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Correct, I regard myself as non partisan in this two party democracy.
17/03/2021 18:18:29 4 0
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Totally agree. And they get away with it because their media friends do not hold them to account despite their bleatings. They claim their riggt for free speech but have no sense of responsibility for being honest and truthful and fair.
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Can you suggest a truly democratic country where someone of your pure morality might live?
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17/03/2021 10:25:20 71 12
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“Democracy is "in retreat", the foreign secretary warned......” And not just in the UK, he added, as the government attempts to rush the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill through parliament with minimum scrutiny and thereby allow senior police officers and the home secretary to restrict peaceful protest in unprecedented ways!
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17/03/2021 10:36:22 6 18
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The left wing anti-Johnson moaners are on this thread today, very likely the same people who were complaining about the defence review yesterday.
If you really think that policing and the justice system operates in the UK as it does in places like Russia, China, or Iran, then you are deeply embittered and totally deluded.
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17/03/2021 10:42:02 19 3
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Is that the new yardstick? As long as we’re not quite as bad as Russia, China or Iran? Well that’s a reassuring thought... ??

And it’s not a left wing “thing”. Won’t be long until David Davis pipes up about restrictions on liberty.

Since when do you need to be a socialist to believe in liberty & due process?
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17/03/2021 10:38:46 14 3
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saddo. get some morality in your brief spell on earth.
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17/03/2021 12:09:48 10 1
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You don't have to be 'left-wing' - whatever you mean by that - to be opposed to Johnson.

The argument that we should put up with an undemocratic, unrepresentative, incompetent chancer just because others are even worse is the politics of the gutter.
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17/03/2021 10:28:18 52 11
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We have just had the policing bill. We are also encouraging trade with countries that engage in the equivalent of sending young children up chimneys. Wow! What a successful Tory government.
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17/03/2021 10:36:47 9 2
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Ahhh, those were the days. :-)
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Ahh, that was a brainless comment.
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17/03/2021 10:37:26 9 17
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Democracy is ignored by many on here who cannot move.
Take leaving the E.U. for example
5 years on and we same the same rants daily
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17/03/2021 10:40:19 7 3
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That's because it was a stitch up and abuse of democracy.
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(hope you are whispering)
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We have lost the ability to move
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17/03/2021 11:19:27 0 0
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Yes we are a bit poor in relation to our second album. The Tories and the right are very successful with their rollout of their systematic approach to dismantling our society.
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17/03/2021 10:31:50 12 15
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'Democracy is in retreat'

Is it if you ever read HYS, every HYS is filled with anti-democratic comments from the bitter few who cannot move on over the E.U. & the failure of the Left to gain power
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17/03/2021 10:37:29 4 4
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You have to admit it is very amusing reading their endless sanctimonious self-righteous posts though....
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Germany and Japan?
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You've got him there !!
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17/03/2021 12:03:12 5 1
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Yes, but to be fair to the OP, I bet Raab couldn't have given those examples. He doesn't seem that bright, does he? But then the bar for being FS was set very low for the previous encumbent.
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v
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You should go to China and try posting a similar comment about their leader.
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17/03/2021 10:38:05 4 3
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Could be that in a democracy we are, at the moment, allowed to do this.
Why are you comparing UK to a dictatorship?
We are not bound to kowtow to our leaders, perhaps the Tories believe we should?
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17/03/2021 10:38:11 33 5
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Unsure how Raab defines 'Democracy'. These Tories need to produce a Dictionary of all their favourite buzzwords so we can be clear what the they are talking about.
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17/03/2021 13:13:03 10 4
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Western aggression causing millions of deaths and displacements in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya was the freedom loving kind.
But anything China, Russia and Iran do in their own backyards is the real threat to the planet.
Or whatever planet this Raab hypocrite comes from.
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Democracy is in retreat?

Integrity is invisible in Boris’ Tory Government.

Boris is a chancer who would cosy up with the Devil for a photo opportunity or a profit.
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17/03/2021 10:42:00 56 7
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So true
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17/03/2021 12:14:07 0 5
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True and Labour happily kneels before Satan.
18/03/2021 16:14:41 0 0
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The same people make the same complaints no matter what happens, and you are one of them.
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17/03/2021 10:25:36 3 18
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Democracy is in retreat.
That's just in the UK you only have too
See the rejoin brigade .
????????
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17/03/2021 10:38:58 1 0
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Grow up!!
I really, really struggle to fathom how anyone can defend this govt? The break international and national laws, lie, award our money to their mates in dodgy contracts, hide personal wealth, ignore inconvenient reports like the one about Patel bullying...

And when you how someone can defend them all they can come up with is "It would be worse if Comrade Corbyn was in charge"

This country is mad.
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The EU is just as bad if not worse. A Tory government out of the EU is want the people voted for. Labour and the remainers have lost the arguement. Removed
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17/03/2021 11:05:45 2 0
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Asides from anything
1) Corbyn isn't in charge of labour anymore
2) We do have other parties, who do have MPs, this isn't like the us.
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crooks like crooks.
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But Corbyn prefers everyone else in other countries to English people
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17/03/2021 11:27:18 0 0
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Your first sentence indicates why all the other parties are becoming irrelevant. Failure to understand the people of the UK and what they want.
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I read the headline and thought he was talking about the UK.............
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17/03/2021 10:54:05 94 16
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With an 80 seat majority the Tories can (and likely will) do quite a lot of unexpected (by those who facilitated the majority on a single issue in 2019) damage before their term is up - and they've got another 45 months to go....
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He is.
18/03/2021 11:16:51 1 0
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Wasn't he?
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17/03/2021 10:37:26 9 17
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Democracy is ignored by many on here who cannot move.
Take leaving the E.U. for example
5 years on and we same the same rants daily
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17/03/2021 10:40:19 7 3
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That's because it was a stitch up and abuse of democracy.
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17/03/2021 10:41:00 43 12
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Today the dfail,exp,sxx readers, tomorrow the world
Every day they come out with some lie or fairytale
No money for NHS staff yet Billions to keep the OAPs happy,let's talk about the war!!!
Britt people now so brainwashed,I wonder how they know the time of day.
A very sad nation.
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OAP's fair less well in this country than they do in a lot of the EU
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17/03/2021 14:00:01 1 3
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Are you young, left wing and woke by any chance?
18/03/2021 16:31:27 0 0
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Dear me, some people have not taken their tablets today. Another illiterate left wing rant from an attic somewhere.
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17/03/2021 10:41:29 6 3
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Democracy is the opposite of freedom. What is Hancock on about?
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*Raab
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Extreme exaggeration.
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as opposed to your two-word answer which does not add any value to the conversation.
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17/03/2021 10:38:13 113 18
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Democracy is in retreat?

Integrity is invisible in Boris’ Tory Government.

Boris is a chancer who would cosy up with the Devil for a photo opportunity or a profit.
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17/03/2021 10:42:00 56 7
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So true
18/03/2021 16:15:10 0 0
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So stupid a comment.
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17/03/2021 10:36:22 6 18
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The left wing anti-Johnson moaners are on this thread today, very likely the same people who were complaining about the defence review yesterday.
If you really think that policing and the justice system operates in the UK as it does in places like Russia, China, or Iran, then you are deeply embittered and totally deluded.
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17/03/2021 10:42:02 19 3
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Is that the new yardstick? As long as we’re not quite as bad as Russia, China or Iran? Well that’s a reassuring thought... ??

And it’s not a left wing “thing”. Won’t be long until David Davis pipes up about restrictions on liberty.

Since when do you need to be a socialist to believe in liberty & due process?
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17/03/2021 10:29:36 9 0
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from the man that you gives the impression,
he doesn't know what day it is !
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17/03/2021 10:54:35 1 0
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He is just today's person put up to give that very same impression over and over again!
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17/03/2021 10:30:28 5 1
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China has HSBC by the short and curleys
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and HYS
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Very useful, cheers for the heads up . . .
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Get invaded and there will be no NHS...
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17/03/2021 10:42:33 6 2
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Don't abuse international law and stick our noses in where it is none of our business for the sakes of the vested interests of the rich in our society, then no-one will want to invade us.
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17/03/2021 10:50:45 2 2
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Tell that to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania...or maybe Tibet ? Talk about being dangerously naive !!
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And don't forget plucky Belgium of course !!
I really, really struggle to fathom how anyone can defend this govt? The break international and national laws, lie, award our money to their mates in dodgy contracts, hide personal wealth, ignore inconvenient reports like the one about Patel bullying...

And when you how someone can defend them all they can come up with is "It would be worse if Comrade Corbyn was in charge"

This country is mad.
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The EU is just as bad if not worse. A Tory government out of the EU is want the people voted for. Labour and the remainers have lost the arguement. Removed
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17/03/2021 10:57:11 6 1
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Is that a joke?

One day our PM calls his deal "fantastic", and when it turns out it screws over the oh-so important fisherman, risks the peace in NI, adds more red tape to trade, leads to an increase in support for another Scottish independence ref etc, then he blames the EU?

And when govt act outside the law your defence is "The EU is just as bad if not worse" - you are part of the problem.
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It’s terrible isn’t it. Govts that close down their parliaments, turn a blind eye to cronyism absorbing vast sums of taxpayers’ money, accept bullying from senior leadership & deliberately go about breaking international law. All enabled by voting systems that favour existing large parties & disenfranchise millions of voters.

I hear there are other nations where democracy is in retreat as well...
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And are now acting to restrict the right to protest.
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YEP ITS CALLED A FACIST STATE !
17/03/2021 17:12:18 4 0
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Lockdown is a perfect time to introduce these laws. Anyone who protests against them is labelled as an anti-lockdown protester without seeing the bigger picture. In the Netherlands, they have got the first curfew since Nazi occupation. I support temporary lockdown measures but people seem to be turning a blind eye to more general measures being introduced under the radar as "covid legislation".
18/03/2021 16:21:03 0 0
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The right to protest is intact, but there is no reason why ordinary people should have their lives disrupted by protestors.
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The EU was stopping deals with these countries but after Brexit the UK is about to forget all that....
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17/03/2021 10:43:20 0 2
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Which countries was the EI stopping deals with?

The only country meentioned is China, and the EU have just signed a new one.
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17/03/2021 10:43:29 85 7
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Democracy is in retreat that is true, but more importantly morality is in retreat. We have a government that does not champion morality,. They avoid scrutiny by the H of C. The cronyism is rife. When a devout catholic, a senior member of the Government, is disparaging about food banks then any hope for moral behaviour from this Government is gone.
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17/03/2021 11:35:09 22 50
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The Tories have a long way to go to catch up with the immorality of the Labour party and the Iraq war. Blair has still not paid the price for misleading parliament and over one million innocent Iraqi citizens lost their lives in his war and the unplanned aftermath.
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17/03/2021 11:44:13 1 3
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Democracy sets one group against others unless the "unit" of democratic accountability is very clear - is it street, town, city, region, nation?

A policy that a city regards as undemocratic may be entirely reasonable on a national level.

Societies can only functions effectively where there is a balance between pure democracy and totalitarian centralised control.
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Wokeness loses votes. About time opposition parties, or the fragments that remain of them, realise that.
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17/03/2021 13:56:18 0 8
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Food banks do good work, but lets not kid ourselves, and I have seen this first hand, a significant number who use food banks are people who make bad choices, they gamble their money away, they smoke, they drink and take drugs or spend money on inappropriate purchases which their income cannot fund
18/03/2021 16:16:21 0 0
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Yes, we should have voted for Corbyn. He had plenty of integrity. Just ask the Jewish community.
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17/03/2021 10:23:25 24 12
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Democracy is in retreat in the UK.

Bojo hides in a fridge just to avoid media scrutiny.

We need to get our own house in order before lecturing others.
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17/03/2021 10:43:53 3 2
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You get a chance in less than 4yrs to kick him out. That's democracy.
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17/03/2021 10:52:20 5 2
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But when there's an election, Bojo hides from the media...
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"Democracy is in retreat, warns Dominic Raab"

As evidenced by the Conservative Party vote in the HoC to silence peaceful demonstrations.
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When the Prime Minister isn't even required to apologise for lying in the House of Commons we know that something is amiss.

Introducing a ban on peaceful demonstrations simply reinforces the lack of accountability of a Government more interested in dishing out juicy contracts to pals (without publishing them in a timely manner, if at all), among other things.

I doubt it will end well.
17/03/2021 18:37:39 0 3
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Interestingly you are protesting about it successfully online. Who needs to superglue themselves to anything?
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You should try doing a peaceful demonstration in Hong Kong or Iran.
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Democracy is in retreat, says the man from the party who is trying to restrict the rights of people who want to protest.
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Absolutely. Rank hypocrisy by politicians, at its finest.

Do as i say, not as i do.
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It's still fine for legitimate protest, just not a rabble intent on a riot.
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17/03/2021 11:23:37 4 12
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Protest is not an absolute right, nor should it be. People who need to get to work or trade from their shops and offices also have a legitimate right not to have their livelihoods disrupted by noisy, uncontrolled or violent protesters.
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Don't forget the China-level internet spying of us all the UK government brought in and we all pay for through higher broadband prices.
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17/03/2021 10:31:39 7 0
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It seems to me democracy is thriving in UK - we have had brexit and the underclass have won
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17/03/2021 10:45:59 2 0
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Jacob Rees-Mogg is in the underclass?
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17/03/2021 10:47:08 52 6
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Democracy????????????????????

Go on ban protests, hopefully MILLIONS will PROTEST at what's going on in this Country.
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To be ignored by tory/tory lite - 2 million against Iraq.
18/03/2021 16:22:25 0 0
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And what is going on? Things that people voted for but which you disagree with?
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In the last election we had a choice, we had Bojo & Tories spouting soundbites & lots of lies, & we had Corbyn & Co who whether you like thier policies or not told more truths. The party that lied the most won! This is in spite of the guy reputation for lies! A PM who has openly threatened to break international law because he has a problem with a treaty he signed! who we going to influence?
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17/03/2021 10:51:48 4 7
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Or we could have gone with a party that wanted to go against a referendum. How low can you get.
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17/03/2021 11:00:16 4 0
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Well said Unfortunately the press and the talking heads on the tele brush these aside and shout Johnson's latest meaningless slogan
Remember "Get Brexit Done" now Johnson as set up a new costly gov't dept to sort out the mess he make of Brexit and to break international law doing so.
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17/03/2021 10:48:57 3 6
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Who needs external enemies? Democracy is in retreat from the forces of woke. Tanks and nukes ain't gonna make much difference.
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17/03/2021 10:57:03 3 0
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The only people who use the word 'woke' are those who fail to understand there are a range of issues dubbed as 'woke' & that those deemed as 'woke' likely have a spectrum of opinions about those various issues. Very intellectually lazy, even ignorant to put everyone with whom you disagree in one great big basket, labelled 'woke'.
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17/03/2021 10:41:29 6 3
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Democracy is the opposite of freedom. What is Hancock on about?
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17/03/2021 10:49:11 0 0
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*Raab
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17/03/2021 10:49:34 5 9
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Like 'Woke' bedwetters who want to try silence what they do not agree with.
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17/03/2021 10:52:46 5 1
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Like those who use the word 'woke', when what they actually mean is 'I want to express my opinion, however outrageous it may or may not be, and if anyone dares to challenge me, to push back..... I will claim victimhood & say they are trying to shut me down, whilst simultaneously trying to SHUT THEM UP'.

The word is HYPOCRISY.
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17/03/2021 10:54:08 4 1
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Clear you dont understand the word and are you laughing at people who wet the bed? You are pathetic
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17/03/2021 10:50:22 5 1
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Democracy is in retreat. Tragically, to be expected in nations with a poor historic record on democracy, like Myanmar. However, we have seen the same trend in nations that have established democracies with ample checks & balances, when they are taken over by populist demagogues using spin & lies. Very apparent in the USA. Perhaps Raab & the rest of the Front Bench should look in the mirror.
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I don't mean to be disparaging but I think they have been looking at Trump and following everything he does. The looking in the mirror opportunities are well gone!
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17/03/2021 10:42:33 6 2
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Don't abuse international law and stick our noses in where it is none of our business for the sakes of the vested interests of the rich in our society, then no-one will want to invade us.
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Tell that to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania...or maybe Tibet ? Talk about being dangerously naive !!
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17/03/2021 13:51:55 2 0
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No one has invaded the Baltic states for nearly 80 years and unlikely too. What goes on in the Far East is also very different. We are talking about the UK in the 21st century. We shouldn't go sticking our necks out anymore and then we'll be less of a target. There's no need to involve ourselves in dubious foreign adventures to further feather the nests of the rich. It smacks of imperialism.
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17/03/2021 10:42:33 6 2
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Don't abuse international law and stick our noses in where it is none of our business for the sakes of the vested interests of the rich in our society, then no-one will want to invade us.
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17/03/2021 10:51:15 2 2
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And don't forget plucky Belgium of course !!
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17/03/2021 10:51:28 9 3
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The biggest threat to democracy is here within the UK. That's where we should start. Just look at Parliament. The Tories have complete control of it yet the majority of the electorate didn't vote for them. Spending good money on arms is a complete waste. When we do get involved elsewhere we leave countries in a shambles. Support NATO etc, yes, but that's it.
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17/03/2021 10:47:54 11 1
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In the last election we had a choice, we had Bojo & Tories spouting soundbites & lots of lies, & we had Corbyn & Co who whether you like thier policies or not told more truths. The party that lied the most won! This is in spite of the guy reputation for lies! A PM who has openly threatened to break international law because he has a problem with a treaty he signed! who we going to influence?
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17/03/2021 10:51:48 4 7
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Or we could have gone with a party that wanted to go against a referendum. How low can you get.
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17/03/2021 11:02:26 2 0
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Wrong you could have voted for a party that was giving you a second ref based on what we new 2 years on. e.g. nearly fisherman voted out! what do you think they would vote for now? especially fish was used as one of the primary reasons for leaving. Democracy does allow you to change your mind especially when circumstances changes or somebody just didn't ell the truth & lied! simples!
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17/03/2021 13:15:17 1 0
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A lot of people confuse a referendum with democracy. A referendum shows the degree to which the population agrees to a particular course of action. if the population is almost equally divided, a democratically elected government should seek ways to reconcile the differnt views, not simply ignore amost half the country's people.
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17/03/2021 13:16:22 1 0
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Advisory referendum.
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17/03/2021 10:43:53 3 2
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You get a chance in less than 4yrs to kick him out. That's democracy.
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17/03/2021 10:52:20 5 2
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But when there's an election, Bojo hides from the media...
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17/03/2021 10:59:55 2 4
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Why does that matter? Despite the tactics of a political party they can't hide they've already been in power for 4+ years, you know them. Why do you need the media to make your decision? You have all the relevant information you need from the last period of government and opposition. Why let the glossy adverts or photocalls, slick speeches sway your decision.
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17/03/2021 12:48:53 2 2
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Whats that got to do with whether we live in a democracy or not? Whether Boris does that or not does not change the fact we hold democratic elections and referendums (whether the results are respected by the losing side or not is a different matter). The fact you are able to make such a comment is also evidence of the UK being a democratic country. Try making such complaints in China or N Korea.
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17/03/2021 10:52:33 4 3
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I have lost my freedom of movement in Europe
I am no longer protected under European human rights
It’s illegal to travel abroad
It’s illegal to leave home under certain circumstances
I will be attacked by police if I dare to protest
Soon I will lose the right to peaceful protest
And it won’t be long before we are turfed out of cities and made to work in the fields
Some democracy Raab
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17/03/2021 11:02:47 2 4
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Suck it up buttercup...stop being a victim !!
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17/03/2021 11:03:13 1 3
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Get a grip mate. Put things into context!
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17/03/2021 10:52:39 6 3
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"He [Raab] will say that the UK has "a moral responsibility".

Is this the same UK that is lead by an immoral government?
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17/03/2021 10:49:34 5 9
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Like 'Woke' bedwetters who want to try silence what they do not agree with.
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17/03/2021 10:52:46 5 1
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Like those who use the word 'woke', when what they actually mean is 'I want to express my opinion, however outrageous it may or may not be, and if anyone dares to challenge me, to push back..... I will claim victimhood & say they are trying to shut me down, whilst simultaneously trying to SHUT THEM UP'.

The word is HYPOCRISY.
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17/03/2021 10:34:23 4 5
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Democracy is in retreat

Libs greens and half the labour rave.

Somes it up with the lefty exitbrexit,rejoin, revoke ,people march Communist ideology movement in the UK
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17/03/2021 10:55:13 2 0
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Have you been using Duolingo again, Fred?
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17/03/2021 11:00:47 1 0
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The odd spelling mistake is to be expected on HYS...... But please proof read what you post. You might have a good point to make, for all I know.... But the post above is unintelligible.
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Perhaps you should go to Russia or China, and try a street protest. Then you will be able to make a true comparison.
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17/03/2021 10:34:37 51 4
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Don't be ridiculous, Russia and China don't claim to be democracies!
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What does Russia class itself as these days?
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17/03/2021 10:53:34 2 0
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Democracy in retreat?

Then don't reward dictatorships with trade agreements Raab!

Don't give succour to dictators.

Or take their money.

How difficult is that to understand.
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Extreme exaggeration.
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17/03/2021 10:53:36 15 1
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You underestimate the mood.
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'Democracy is in retreat'

Is it if you ever read HYS, every HYS is filled with anti-democratic comments from the bitter few who cannot move on over the E.U. & the failure of the Left to gain power
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17/03/2021 10:36:43 0 0
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Bent Lies from the likes of cummings do not = 'democracy' thicko.
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17/03/2021 11:09:56 1 0
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Another sad leftie riled....loving it !!
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17/03/2021 10:31:39 7 0
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It seems to me democracy is thriving in UK - we have had brexit and the underclass have won
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17/03/2021 10:37:02 0 1
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Not with out Communist opposition
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17/03/2021 10:39:44 142 13
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I read the headline and thought he was talking about the UK.............
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With an 80 seat majority the Tories can (and likely will) do quite a lot of unexpected (by those who facilitated the majority on a single issue in 2019) damage before their term is up - and they've got another 45 months to go....
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at least 45 months...suspect many many more than that...just to keep the HYS lefties happy !
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17/03/2021 11:14:28 6 18
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Yes I voted for them, given the difficult choice... That's democracy.
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17/03/2021 11:41:29 12 0
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The way it’s going we will have prime minister for LIFE Clown Prince Boris
18/03/2021 15:19:22 0 0
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It’s about 70 seats now and dwindling.
18/03/2021 16:10:33 0 0
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Another Remoaner, in effect saying that the stupid Brexit voters are not as intelligent as those who wanted to remain. We have heard this many times.
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17/03/2021 10:49:34 5 9
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Like 'Woke' bedwetters who want to try silence what they do not agree with.
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17/03/2021 10:54:08 4 1
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Clear you dont understand the word and are you laughing at people who wet the bed? You are pathetic
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17/03/2021 10:29:36 9 0
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from the man that you gives the impression,
he doesn't know what day it is !
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17/03/2021 10:54:35 1 0
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He is just today's person put up to give that very same impression over and over again!
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17/03/2021 10:37:11 3 6
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Democracy in retreat.

EU prime example, democracy is for the people voted by the people, EU made sure it’s for politicians and stuff the citizens
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17/03/2021 10:58:34 4 0
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Usual tory rubbish, forget the tory press,we have people in Portugal who are so upset with the UK press.In their village they had vaccines,no deaths and reminder total deaths in Portugal under 17,000..Compare that with the UK
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17/03/2021 10:59:11 3 1
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EU is arguably more democratic than the UK.

EU bicameral legislature: BOTH chambers elected. EU top civil servants / equiv of Spads elected by members' elected representatives. Electoral system PR.

UK bicameral legislature: ONE chamber elected, the other LARGER one NOT elected. UK top civil servants / Spads NOT elected.  And now one member of the Cabinet NOT elected. Electoral system FPTP.
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17/03/2021 11:41:38 1 0
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People voted for by the people?

You mean like all the people Bozo stuffed into the House of Lords, including former MPs who were voted out by their constituents and his own flippin' brother?
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17/03/2021 10:27:22 12 64
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Nonsense.
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17/03/2021 10:34:09 31 9
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Democracy is in retreat in the U.K. all right: centralised power with local govt starved of cash, crony contracts, a policing bill that values statues over women and which will stamp on protest, right wing newspapers that destroy any opposition and cheer anything from their puppet Prime Minister. Probably the first truth Raab has spoken in quite a while.
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17/03/2021 10:35:58 6 19
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Get invaded and there will be no NHS...
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17/03/2021 10:38:11 4 1
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Who'd want to invade us?!
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17/03/2021 10:57:37 1 3
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Who knows ?!....I haven't got a crystal ball....that's the point ! Russia and China aren't exactly benevolent towards us...hence Russian planes constantly invading our airspace testing out our defences...now why on earth would they do that then BDD ??
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17/03/2021 10:34:23 4 5
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Democracy is in retreat

Libs greens and half the labour rave.

Somes it up with the lefty exitbrexit,rejoin, revoke ,people march Communist ideology movement in the UK
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17/03/2021 10:55:13 2 0
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Have you been using Duolingo again, Fred?
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17/03/2021 10:55:25 11 0
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What is really in retreat is common sense of the PM and cabinet, just ask Patel
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17/03/2021 10:36:22 6 18
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The left wing anti-Johnson moaners are on this thread today, very likely the same people who were complaining about the defence review yesterday.
If you really think that policing and the justice system operates in the UK as it does in places like Russia, China, or Iran, then you are deeply embittered and totally deluded.
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17/03/2021 10:38:46 14 3
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saddo. get some morality in your brief spell on earth.
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17/03/2021 10:29:07 19 74
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Extreme exaggeration.
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17/03/2021 10:39:10 13 2
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tory LIE - you get used to them ;)
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17/03/2021 10:31:50 12 15
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'Democracy is in retreat'

Is it if you ever read HYS, every HYS is filled with anti-democratic comments from the bitter few who cannot move on over the E.U. & the failure of the Left to gain power
Removed
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17/03/2021 10:31:44 12 10
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You should go to China and try posting a similar comment about their leader.
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17/03/2021 10:39:52 3 1
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Shhhh - 10 years for whispering that HERE IN THE UK .
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17/03/2021 10:32:40 47 19
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Democracy is defiantly in retreat in England...it is a one party state!
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17/03/2021 10:40:07 15 20
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What a government voted in power by the people

??????????????
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17/03/2021 11:30:06 4 2
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WHICH SAYS IT ALL REALLY !
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17/03/2021 12:26:39 8 2
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Wish we had a government voted for by the majority of the people. With the archaic FPTP system 43% of the vote gets you a 80 seat majority in parliament. Democracy, don't make me laugh.
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17/03/2021 12:13:18 8 4
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56% of us who voted, didn't vote Tory.

The 44% who did, gave them an 80-seat majority.

Let's see your argument that 44% is a democratic majority.
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17/03/2021 10:48:57 3 6
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Who needs external enemies? Democracy is in retreat from the forces of woke. Tanks and nukes ain't gonna make much difference.
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17/03/2021 10:57:03 3 0
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The only people who use the word 'woke' are those who fail to understand there are a range of issues dubbed as 'woke' & that those deemed as 'woke' likely have a spectrum of opinions about those various issues. Very intellectually lazy, even ignorant to put everyone with whom you disagree in one great big basket, labelled 'woke'.
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17/03/2021 11:06:37 1 3
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Sorry for my intellectual laziness. You defined it much better above as HYPOCRISY, you diligent, hard-working, industrious intellectual, you.
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17/03/2021 10:34:09 31 9
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Democracy is in retreat in the U.K. all right: centralised power with local govt starved of cash, crony contracts, a policing bill that values statues over women and which will stamp on protest, right wing newspapers that destroy any opposition and cheer anything from their puppet Prime Minister. Probably the first truth Raab has spoken in quite a while.
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17/03/2021 10:57:04 5 0
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The non-dom owned, EU opposing / Brexit supporting newspapers have been feeding their readers with their alternative facts for years.

One could opine that they are a form of political campaigning....
The EU is just as bad if not worse. A Tory government out of the EU is want the people voted for. Labour and the remainers have lost the arguement. Removed
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17/03/2021 10:57:11 6 1
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Is that a joke?

One day our PM calls his deal "fantastic", and when it turns out it screws over the oh-so important fisherman, risks the peace in NI, adds more red tape to trade, leads to an increase in support for another Scottish independence ref etc, then he blames the EU?

And when govt act outside the law your defence is "The EU is just as bad if not worse" - you are part of the problem.
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17/03/2021 11:10:08 4 1
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I voted to remain and would have voted Labour if they stuck with the referendum result as that's what the majority voted for. You're part of the problem as people couldn't vote for Labour that went against the peoples vote.
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17/03/2021 10:57:23 4 0
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Raab how about using our mighty influence to get that woman being held in Iran free? Send the aircraft carrier into the gulf see if it makes any difference? Oh i forgot Iranians took several of our naval personnel fro supposedly straying into their waters! yer & thier mother ship with all its fire power sat there & did nothing! Yep we couldn't stop a small gun boat, our mighty frigate helpless!
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17/03/2021 10:38:11 4 1
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Who'd want to invade us?!
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17/03/2021 10:57:37 1 3
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Who knows ?!....I haven't got a crystal ball....that's the point ! Russia and China aren't exactly benevolent towards us...hence Russian planes constantly invading our airspace testing out our defences...now why on earth would they do that then BDD ??
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17/03/2021 14:36:08 2 0
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Little men with massive ego's mostly to blame. Have we learned anything from history? Do you really think the Russian public have enough respect for him to form a Red Army of millions in these days of international social media? If we go down it will be done through cyber-infiltration of our infrastructures.