Gigabit broadband: First areas to benefit announced
19/03/2021 | news | technology | 1,086
The government announces first stages of plans to get superfast broadband to the majority of UK homes.
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19/03/2021 10:20:47 4 10
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As i live in cambridgeshire when its rolled out will i have to pay more ?
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19/03/2021 10:28:45 1 1
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BT have been told they can charge upto an additional 1.70 to cover the cost of the roll out from a story i read on another website about this
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19/03/2021 10:21:02 4 7
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Get it done just in time for quantum internet to be ready
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mc
19/03/2021 10:21:38 14 15
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Another empty promise?
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xlr
19/03/2021 10:26:42 9 5
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It escapes that by being irritatingly vague.

A budget has been put aside but there's no deadline and they can cut it whenever they want. A promise that can be changed on a whim.
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19/03/2021 10:28:08 1 1
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Another moan ?

This is progress, seeing things in terms of 'The Tories' or not, is a bit silly given its decades between Labour Governments.
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19/03/2021 11:25:26 0 1
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Of course - this is Spaffer johnson's mob.
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:23:23 15 9
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Who do you think would pay for the "free internet access"?
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EdK
19/03/2021 10:26:24 2 4
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There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
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19/03/2021 10:24:15 3 4
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Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth.
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ljs
19/03/2021 10:33:19 5 4
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Did corbyn even know what the internet was ???????????
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19/03/2021 10:30:45 3 6
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So many people agreed with you that we should have voted for Corbyn, and the paradise he promised - much like he explained when he appeared on Iranian TV.
His close association with that country, and the money they paid him, tells you all you need to know as to why he was rejected.
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19/03/2021 10:59:45 5 5
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As Maggie said, 'the trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money'. Who would pay for these Utopian schemes, the answer will come to you soon, I'm sure.
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19/03/2021 11:44:50 3 2
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Water is only free if you collect it yourself or steal it. However, you might think it's free if someone else is paying for it on your behalf.

As for a backward nation, give people the chance to live off the efforts of others and you'll certainly make at least some of them more backward than ever before.
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19/03/2021 10:22:51 181 24
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"Originally it had promised to roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025 but that was reduced to 85%"

Why do govts make promises everyone knows they'll break?

Wouldn't it be better if they just said "look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"? Surely that's better than lying?
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:24:31 41 119
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Proof they're lying and weren't just overly optimistic?
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19/03/2021 10:24:51 28 4
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That would make them unelectable. We get the politicians we deserve.
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19/03/2021 10:27:23 13 5
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Better to say nothing at all and JFDI
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Bob
19/03/2021 10:33:36 7 12
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It was a post-pandemic reign-in. And I suspect also partly due to BT actually, for once, doing quite well with the rollout. Alt nets are also making good progress.

To that end why throw public money if private is willing to pay.
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19/03/2021 10:54:01 3 2
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It will never be 100% by fibre, the cost would be too high.
The first is an aspiration (which could be met eventually by other means such as Starlink) and the second is the figure the experts come back with.
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19/03/2021 10:56:59 6 9
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Trouble is, if they were more honest and didn't promise 100%, the media would hold that against them too and play on those words in all their articles.
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19/03/2021 11:01:39 3 2
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Why? To gain votes of course.
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19/03/2021 11:06:48 1 8
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You state that the Government is lying and then in your third paragraph prove they aren't. By giving the 85% estimate they have done exactly what you wanted them to do. Try looking at the 85% figure as being the new 100%.
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19/03/2021 11:12:26 4 3
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They make false promises because they expect that when it is found out they will have moved on, or no-one will care enough by then to make a fuss
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19/03/2021 11:20:15 5 1
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Politicians present undeliverable policies because too many people judge success by dreamworld expectations.
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cat
19/03/2021 11:41:12 0 0
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The primary plan is to run it over poles if there is no underground trunking. If they can’t push the cable through they will firstly want to run the cables on poles as it’s much cheaper
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19/03/2021 11:56:42 5 1
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Because the electorate ignore their lies and re-elect them on a first past the post system which means a majority can be achieved from a minority of the votes cast. The lesson they learn is that they can lie as much as they want and get away with it.
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19/03/2021 13:05:19 0 0
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I'm duplicating this comment because it'll be lost in the stand alone post but: the people who run the backbone so to speak, are an organisation called 'Openreach' (BT in disguise) something that generations of back room bungs and jobs for the lads to its regulator OFCOM has ensured that it's not getting really getting better any time soon.
777
19/03/2021 13:47:45 2 0
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Because English voters are stupid and will keep voting Conservative as long as they keep repeating the same lies over and over again to make them feel good.

"bUt laBoUr"
812
19/03/2021 14:21:42 2 0
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Sadly, that's how all political parties work. They make grand (but often impractical) promises in the hope of getting into or staying in power, then fail to deliver. I always bear that in mind whenever they make any promises. Remember Boris's infamous bus advert during the brexit campaign?
891
19/03/2021 19:30:56 0 0
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To get you to vote for them
897
19/03/2021 20:55:45 0 0
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Why? Pick a headline:

"We'll roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025"

""We hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"
973
20/03/2021 07:43:20 0 0
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They call it 'gigabit-capable' because they know that most will not be able to afford a gigabit service. Most will have to settle for cheaper packages giving much lower speeds. The digital divide continues!
975
20/03/2021 08:04:36 0 0
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Boris is " in control"
Unrealistic.
20/03/2021 10:30:11 0 0
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Stop voting for them, it terrifies the Westminster bubble to think that no-one actually cares for them!!
20/03/2021 12:43:56 0 0
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You mean TORY GOVERNMENTS make promises everyone knows they will break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine being able to stream BBCs Mrs Brown Boys on a 1GB connection? It still won't be funny. Removed
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19/03/2021 10:25:19 211 12
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will it not be over, quicker though?
307
19/03/2021 11:17:53 28 3
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I think I'd prefer to watch a 'buffering' screen.
366
19/03/2021 11:31:19 16 3
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Brilliant!
378
19/03/2021 11:33:23 24 7
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100%...I worry for people's mental health who find it funny...and actually find it offensively un-funny...it could be cost cut with 0 pain to 99% of the TV aduience!
475
19/03/2021 11:54:52 4 5
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What you don't realise is the more you keep giving your view on this programme the more people will want to watch it Brendan O'Carroll rubbing his hands on his way to the bank.
612
19/03/2021 12:37:18 10 2
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It'd still be ******* **** - ok, the odd swear word is "funny" in the right context, but the persistence is just irritating
642
19/03/2021 12:48:27 6 6
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I find the programme quite nostalgic. I haven't come across that sort of humour since I left primary school.
685
19/03/2021 12:59:38 4 1
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I'd rather watch the Test Card than mbb!
714
19/03/2021 13:01:41 0 2
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10 million+ disagree and in Toryland the market rules.
745
19/03/2021 13:20:59 1 0
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100% agree, I think some people at the BBC think all men in drag are always funny or entertaining.

It's not 1973 anymore.
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:23:23 15 9
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Who do you think would pay for the "free internet access"?
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19/03/2021 10:23:24 63 22
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Remembering Cameron's promise 11 years ago, which amounted to nothing but hot air. In fairness all parties are to blame for this, 20 years ago they should have been on top of this. But like many of us working with computers back in the mid 90's. Many thought the internet would amount to nothing, why is was ignored. India puts us to shame with broadband and coding, something we should have done.
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19/03/2021 10:26:29 53 15
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"But like many of us working with computers back in the mid 90's. Many thought the internet would amount to nothing"

I quite literally, cannot stop laughing at that comment.
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19/03/2021 10:37:49 22 6
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"India puts us to shame with broadband and coding" - nonsense on both counts!
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19/03/2021 11:14:14 15 5
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British Telecom were "on top of this" over 30 years ago, in the 1980s, with their own factories making fibre internet equipment. Then the Thatcher government decided that they wanted to break BT's monopoly, so they ordered a halt while they invited rivals to lay fibre in urban areas, and forbade BT from using its fibre network for providing services like video streaming. It did not go well ...
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19/03/2021 11:27:21 5 1
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Think John Major is normally thought to be at blame for this. He didn't allow BT to roll out a big fibre Grid (for cable TV) because he wanted competition with the American cable TV companies. I think for some remote areas there may be cheaper ways to do this (i.e statelote internet)
930
20/03/2021 00:09:56 0 0
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India would only shame us on lower wages, if that's desirable...
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19/03/2021 10:24:05 3 5
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Will this also help the roll out of 5G phone system in these areas? Much of the area mentioned has little or no 3G coverage!
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19/03/2021 11:29:50 0 0
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Not much if at all. That's more limited by lack of profitability (too little chargeable usage) and the local (or not so local) NIMBYs who don't want masts anywhere near or even visible to them.
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19/03/2021 10:22:51 181 24
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"Originally it had promised to roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025 but that was reduced to 85%"

Why do govts make promises everyone knows they'll break?

Wouldn't it be better if they just said "look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"? Surely that's better than lying?
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:24:31 41 119
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Proof they're lying and weren't just overly optimistic?
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19/03/2021 11:20:02 7 2
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The track record suggests that lying is much more likely.
420
19/03/2021 11:20:53 9 2
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£350 million to NHS ring any bells ?
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Pip
19/03/2021 11:43:41 4 0
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They're politicians, it has to be lies............?
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19/03/2021 12:07:04 0 3
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"look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated" doesn't win you any votes.
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VoR
19/03/2021 12:13:47 3 0
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They moved their lips.
584
19/03/2021 12:26:54 2 2
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We are in a pandemic and spending is througfh the roof, no surprise that priorities change.
715
19/03/2021 13:03:09 3 0
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It's Boris.
756
19/03/2021 13:27:43 4 0
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They opened their mouths. That's when I knew they were lying.
906
19/03/2021 22:21:51 0 0
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If they weren't lying then they would be woefully ill-informed, neither of which is a desirable attribute to govern the U.K.

Unfortunately for us were lumbered with them for now.
976
20/03/2021 08:05:40 0 0
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Johnson is always " mightily optimistic".
Or lying?
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19/03/2021 10:24:47 6 10
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More promises. The brutal truth for rural areas is that if the private sector can't see a profit, it won't happen. It needs government funding. You cannot both supply a social function and reward shareholders.
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:26:02 6 1
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I mean.... that's exactly why they're funding the rollout to rural areas.
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19/03/2021 10:22:51 181 24
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"Originally it had promised to roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025 but that was reduced to 85%"

Why do govts make promises everyone knows they'll break?

Wouldn't it be better if they just said "look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"? Surely that's better than lying?
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19/03/2021 10:24:51 28 4
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That would make them unelectable. We get the politicians we deserve.
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19/03/2021 10:29:24 30 20
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Nobody deserves this lot surely
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19/03/2021 10:57:17 16 3
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No, we get the ones on offer - or some of them. We cannot choose the best people for the job, only those offering themselves for election, and once we vote they forget all about us for 5 yrs anyway.

Swiss-style direct democracy looks more and more attractive every year; has to be better than the same old, same old, for decades.
Imagine being able to stream BBCs Mrs Brown Boys on a 1GB connection? It still won't be funny. Removed
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19/03/2021 10:25:19 211 12
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will it not be over, quicker though?
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19/03/2021 11:37:42 2 1
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only if you download rather than stream it! LOL
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19/03/2021 11:39:23 1 3
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and the market will pick our pockets
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19/03/2021 10:25:20 14 11
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"Every home in Britain promised fast broadband by 2025" Pah! All areas named are in England. Scotland is still part of UK and although we are inundated by leaflets promising this when we enquire we are not eligible being in rural Galloway. Sending these leaflets is a form of Chinese water torture!
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19/03/2021 10:25:39 5 11
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Let's see how this roll out of connectivity can rendered locally ineffective by the parochial concerns of those in power at Holyrood. Already Scottish politicians have weakened the 2021 UK wide 'moment in time' census collection, postponing collection of data in Scotland for 12 months. The century of regularity 'instant in time' UK data undermined. Will Scot's be any better connected by then ?
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19/03/2021 10:25:53 11 8
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Every home in Britain??? Don’t see any areas in the devolved nations in the early list.
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19/03/2021 10:33:08 8 3
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You're correct there. Seems to be another BBC News article that doesn't clarify any other areas apart from England. The gap feels like it's widening and UK often means England. Please don't forget us in Wales and the rest please BBC News.
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19/03/2021 10:24:47 6 10
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More promises. The brutal truth for rural areas is that if the private sector can't see a profit, it won't happen. It needs government funding. You cannot both supply a social function and reward shareholders.
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:26:02 6 1
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I mean.... that's exactly why they're funding the rollout to rural areas.
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19/03/2021 10:26:18 6 10
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There is not a chance that target will be met. It will involve visiting every premises in the UK to replace their copper wires with fibre and the admin of that alone is going to take years to sort out never mind the time it will take the engineers to do their part
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19/03/2021 10:38:05 0 2
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You can use cheap 5G modems now to connect to a fibre-enabled tower – it bypasses the problem you correctly identify. Wired connections would take decades!
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ljs
19/03/2021 10:38:05 1 3
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I think you mean technicians,

all REAL Engineers have degrees these days.

A Chartered Engineer who graduated over 40 years ago.
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
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EdK
19/03/2021 10:26:24 2 4
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There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Of course there is, Comrade . In the mouse trap. Free cheese for all.
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mc
19/03/2021 10:21:38 14 15
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Another empty promise?
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xlr
19/03/2021 10:26:42 9 5
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It escapes that by being irritatingly vague.

A budget has been put aside but there's no deadline and they can cut it whenever they want. A promise that can be changed on a whim.
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:29:30 2 2
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"Gigabit speed to 85% of homes by 2025"

Did you even look at the article?
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19/03/2021 10:27:02 11 19
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Another manifesto promise broken. Ah well, who cares, the Tories certainly don’t.
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19/03/2021 10:36:44 3 1
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Unfortunately the Tory manifesto failed to mention spending on a global pandemic which came just 14 months later. If it had, then there wouldn't be anything for superfast internet.
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19/03/2021 10:38:54 1 2
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Boohoo, will Labour losers ever stop crying? Is there any reprieve for your failed party? Will you ever admit you were led by a man who was completely beyond his depth? I guess the only reason you lost the worst results in a century is because the Tories were keeping you down.
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19/03/2021 10:27:07 115 34
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What about the real rural areas that have next to nothing speed's like up to 1.5mb on a good day if were lucky ????????????????????????????????????? promises promises promises
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19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
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It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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19/03/2021 10:58:29 2 5
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Starlink, Oneweb?
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19/03/2021 11:23:07 1 2
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These are rural areas: Cambridgeshire, Cornwall, Cumbria, Dorset, Durham, Essex, Northumberland, South Tyneside and Tees Valley and later: Shropshire, Suffolk, Worcestershire, Hampshire and the Isle of Wight.

At least in most part!
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VoR
19/03/2021 12:16:22 1 0
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That's actually better than what I had (it was about 3 miles to the cabinet so even "high speed broadband" was about what you describe), and now have fttp. At least some rural areas are getting done. Prior to fttp I used mobile broadband (expensive, and has data limit), but that used to lose the signal multiple times per day).
576
19/03/2021 12:21:18 4 0
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We were in the same boat. Small village with awful speeds but two weeks ago we got fibre to the premises and now we're enjoying 500Mbts.

It's taken 10 years but it's definitely happening!
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19/03/2021 12:29:38 0 0
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I'm not even in a rural area and struggle to get 1.5mb most of the time! All the providers are selective as to where they will install and only if enough of an update in the area - never going to happen as the end of the road already has fibre so don't need to sign up for a new scheme leaving the rest of us stuck with rubbish broadband
634
19/03/2021 12:45:52 2 0
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Not any problem they did my area. All they do is put the fibres along the telegraph poles, or ducts where it goes underground. The 'lie' it is hard to do rural areas is rubbish. It is a con to avoid doing it where there is less money to be made. I now have fibre to the house. Easy simple. When a local group of active bureaucracy coping, busting, types got the available grants, conditions, sorted.
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19/03/2021 12:53:36 0 1
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689
19/03/2021 13:01:16 0 0
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Rural is getting more more in terms of upgrades that suburbs. People forget that BT had some 100's of millions 7 or 8 years ago to bring rural areas to 10Mbs minium. In many cases they just did FTTP so 330Mbs. Meanwhile suburbs such as mine are left with flakey and oversubsribed FTTC and no plan for anything else. Of course the 50Mbps or so I get is better that some rural areas but not enough.
739
19/03/2021 13:17:33 2 0
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Same here in rural Scotland. 1.3mb so long as it's not raining. I wish they would sort out the percentage that current don't get superfast broadband before they start bragging about who's going to get the super duper speedy stuff.
769
19/03/2021 13:41:08 0 1
bbc
You can by Starlink today.
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RSW
19/03/2021 13:40:11 1 0
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Have you looked at 4G internet? We were in a similar position and went for a package from EE which, with an external aerial, improved speeds to between 20-50Mbps and very reliable. If I were to do the same now I would buy a third party 4G router and insert an unlimited sim from the provider that has the strongest signal in the area. LA grants might help with the cost but all depends on 4G strength
You could always move to a city and get polluted, blighted with traffic noise and stabbed in the street if broadband speed is that important.
912
19/03/2021 22:41:28 0 0
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Move. You chose the rural place for a reason, wouldn't do yo go digging up everything.
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19/03/2021 10:22:51 181 24
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"Originally it had promised to roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025 but that was reduced to 85%"

Why do govts make promises everyone knows they'll break?

Wouldn't it be better if they just said "look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"? Surely that's better than lying?
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19/03/2021 10:27:23 13 5
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Better to say nothing at all and JFDI
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19/03/2021 10:27:55 77 10
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And for millions we still can't get local BBC tv in HD.
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19/03/2021 10:37:22 69 37
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Ah, so there is a silver lining :)
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don
19/03/2021 10:48:11 9 20
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BBC, you're not missing anything !
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19/03/2021 10:58:05 6 2
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Like the rest of us Local TV is not HD as local areas drop off the HD carrier to transmit local programmes.
221
19/03/2021 10:59:53 7 12
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Why do you need to? It's at the resolution that all channels were broadcast in 10 years ago and we all coped perfectly well.
273
19/03/2021 11:09:52 1 5
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And difficult to get Radio 3 and 4 in some parts of Devon. Radio Gaga, no problem.
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19/03/2021 11:19:18 6 8
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Yes, but that's not because of a lack of fibre, it's BBC priorities. Maybe now they're getting the old to pay for a TV licence it will become possible (unless of course the revenue is already earmarked for a pay rise to the talent and/or to sort out their gender pay gap, which costs a lot when dealing with lofty salaries).
525
19/03/2021 12:05:15 1 0
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They literally announced regionalised BBC One HD just yesterday.
Do keep up.
724
19/03/2021 13:11:06 2 0
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you get tv -when did that happen.
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19/03/2021 10:28:17 9 12
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Only £1.2bn available until 2024 just shows the lack of vision this sorry Government has. A mere drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things, a rounding error.

Still we can get that comms room fitted out seemingly in no time at all, for a mere £2.6m, flags and all.........
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:31:09 9 3
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£1.2b is a "mere drop in the ocean", but you see fit to complain about something that's only 0.2% of the cost?
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19/03/2021 10:28:34 1 3
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Hampshire already has super fast broadband ? Both of NATS’ ATC main hubs are based there. You’re not going to route infrastructure to there alone, what would be the point ?
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CJ
19/03/2021 10:36:32 0 2
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There are MANY parts of Hampshire that are fibre-less. Living in a town I only got fibre a few yrs ago. Now 42meg Fttc. Was just 4.2meg on a very good day. 1.5meg on all copper wires being standard max
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19/03/2021 10:28:39 2 7
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How representative of the actuality is the article first image? Some people will think the whole thing's worth doing just for the light show - as we used to say "Far Out - Man!"
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19/03/2021 10:27:07 115 34
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What about the real rural areas that have next to nothing speed's like up to 1.5mb on a good day if were lucky ????????????????????????????????????? promises promises promises
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19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
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It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:33:16 37 32
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Maybe don't live in the absolute middle of nowhere? The idea that you have some entitlement to instant communication just because is ridiculous.
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19/03/2021 10:34:18 25 11
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There's pluses and minuses to living in the country as there are in urban environments - e.g. houses are generally cheaper in the 'country' so perhaps you should expect less infrastructure, etc..
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19/03/2021 10:35:04 20 3
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Did you geniuses not read the article? The areas mentioned ARE rural!
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19/03/2021 10:37:09 25 2
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Agreed, if a website is too slow to load not because of internet speed but because of bad design I'll simply find another one. Things like do you want to subscribe/give opinion/take a survey etc. I also think auto playing videos are the spawn of Satan.
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19/03/2021 11:03:29 4 5
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In Africa they have built networks based on old WiFi router's and tin cans to direct the signal. It can reach 5 miles by line of sight.

Try looking for inventive solutions.
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19/03/2021 10:57:04 4 1
bbc
Are you serious?! Website's aren't making their websites slow on purpose you're obviously just visiting ones with 1000s of ads/trackers. Use incognito mode or ad blockers and you'll see how "slow" the average website actually is
869
19/03/2021 18:01:58 0 0
bbc
Its poor programming tht does not consider the user on low grade signal as they think everyone they know has superfast broadband
900
19/03/2021 22:02:16 0 0
bbc
Most of the country don't have 5g
Even those with 4g is basicly enough to watch YouTube stood day on 4g in my town is 5-6mb
1
19/03/2021 10:20:47 4 10
bbc
As i live in cambridgeshire when its rolled out will i have to pay more ?
29
19/03/2021 10:28:45 1 1
bbc
BT have been told they can charge upto an additional 1.70 to cover the cost of the roll out from a story i read on another website about this
202
19/03/2021 10:55:23 2 1
bbc
It's a bit like going in to a restaurant and ordering champagne instead of beer, you'd expect to pay more. Besides this you can always stick to the slower speed and pay the same as you do now.

Like everything it's the consumer who ultimately pays.
30
19/03/2021 10:28:55 3 6
bbc
Hopefully some substance to this latest promise and not just more hot air, because broadband speed and efficiency has been over promised and under delivered on by government and providers for as long as we can remember.
31
19/03/2021 10:28:59 5 8
bbc
It will get done, so long as there is a guaranteed profit for millionaires.
62
19/03/2021 10:33:16 2 2
bbc
We don't live in a communist country, and companies are not charities, so yes, someone will make a profit. You get paid to work don't you? Isn't that you making a 'profit'?

Profit should be a goal, not a dirty word.
32
19/03/2021 10:29:00 98 17
bbc
No doubt yet another justification for our internet service providers to charge us an arm and leg for the privilege to access it along with their regular price rises.
We have already had enough price hikes this year, council tax, utility bills etc
44
19/03/2021 10:31:45 46 110
bbc
So don't have it then. And obviously you are ASSUMING there will be price hikes, even though no pricing has been announced.

Jeez, some people just cannot be happy.
263
19/03/2021 11:06:56 7 4
bbc
Then just use your phone for internet access, the prices of mobile connectivity are tumbling!

Unless of course you live in Glastonbury where the council have banned 5G because it is has been taken over by conspiracy theorists!
267
19/03/2021 11:07:51 2 10
bbc
It is a "utility" when you want to complain about poor service, yet it's one which you think can be provided for free. Notwithstanding, that it gives access to products and services that earlier generations couldn't even dream of, let alone take for granted.
382
19/03/2021 11:34:17 3 8
bbc
We could be sitting here with free nationalised broadband by now if people voted differently (albeit I am sure there would have been tax hikes elsewhere to compensate).
468
19/03/2021 11:43:40 2 0
bbc
On the website it is £50 for 500mbps and £60 for 1gbps. Virgin Media is roughly the same. If copper goes though, you'll get a 50mpbs for about £20 a month ish. not breaking the bank really, but that is faster and cheaper than my full speeed 'up to 70mbps' 30mpbs connection in have now, in the middle of Cramlington.
482
19/03/2021 11:57:03 3 0
bbc
Considerer yourself lucky! In the US your broadband has data caps.
974
20/03/2021 07:45:26 0 0
bbc
Ofcom have just given Openreach permission to charge what they want for ISPs that are offering the fastest connections for the next 10 years.
979
20/03/2021 08:21:27 1 0
bbc
In my area Talk-talk were charging 34.50 pm, for 27Mb Sometimes)over Openreach aluminium cable.
Virgin put in FTTP, 54Mb stable for £33 pm, with 3 months free, + paid early disconnect charges. for TT.
Installed last August, nothing to be paid until April, when it is £9, then £33 fixed til the end of 2 year contract.
TT wtas unreliable, but only because they had to rely on Openreach.
33
19/03/2021 10:29:18 4 10
bbc
As usual the North West gets a kick in the teeth
204
19/03/2021 10:55:40 0 1
bbc
Hey, you've got electricity up there now. Is that not enough?
252
19/03/2021 11:04:06 0 1
bbc
Isn't Cumbria and IS included in the northwest, maybe you're one of those southern jessies in Cheshire. LOL
34
19/03/2021 10:29:22 63 10
bbc
That's great it's coming to Northumberland. We're normally the last people to get anything - and so it's a welcome change.
147
19/03/2021 10:45:08 31 6
bbc
Appropriately, Cragside should be the first to get it. Amazing place.
236
19/03/2021 11:02:14 9 1
bbc
In my (reasonably built up) part of Wiltshire we're still waiting for a mobile phone signal. And I don't mean 4G, I mean a...phone...signal.
352
19/03/2021 11:29:41 2 6
bbc
Once Northumberland gets the fast broadband the next step is to move in the people who will use it!
627
19/03/2021 12:44:45 4 0
bbc
We live in semi-rural Northumberland, near Amble; and get almost 80Mbps with FTTC. I do however presume more rural areas around here, struggle to get anywhere near that...
640
19/03/2021 12:47:51 0 5
bbc
You live in a beautiful place the internet is less necessary
671
19/03/2021 12:56:34 1 0
bbc
You should be very happy about some of the things that you haven't got!
12
19/03/2021 10:24:51 28 4
bbc
That would make them unelectable. We get the politicians we deserve.
35
19/03/2021 10:29:24 30 20
bbc
Nobody deserves this lot surely
118
NM
19/03/2021 10:40:27 10 10
bbc
It's who we collectively chose, so we deserve them.
213
19/03/2021 10:57:45 6 6
bbc
The alternative came across as even worse so it was a case of picking the least worst option.
I was hoping Keir had started to look like a leader by now, instead he's become invisible. I fear he's not got much time to start turning things around.
20
xlr
19/03/2021 10:26:42 9 5
bbc
It escapes that by being irritatingly vague.

A budget has been put aside but there's no deadline and they can cut it whenever they want. A promise that can be changed on a whim.
36
OwO
19/03/2021 10:29:30 2 2
bbc
"Gigabit speed to 85% of homes by 2025"

Did you even look at the article?
37
19/03/2021 10:29:48 56 24
bbc
All England then hardly a UK wide roll out.
229
19/03/2021 11:01:30 56 15
bbc
Why is it everytime England arranges something that is devolved in Wales, Scotland and NI, people jump out complaining that it's "All England". Yes, that's what devolution means!

Scotland "claim" to already have 100% superfast broadband (scotlandsuperfast.com says "Superfast broadband is reaching 100% of premises in Scotland")

England has over 24 of the 29 million homes in the UK.
239
19/03/2021 11:02:26 5 9
bbc
My thoughts exactly. Nothing for the devolved regions- probably find it becomes a devolved matter in a few months
283
19/03/2021 11:11:53 9 1
bbc
Depends if it is controlled by Westminster or the devolved parliaments.
354
19/03/2021 11:29:55 1 6
bbc
Scotland won't let us Sassenachs dig up their pavements!
629
19/03/2021 12:45:08 2 1
bbc
Disappointed- nothing in Wales!!
723
SCJ
19/03/2021 13:10:51 4 5
bbc
We are governed by an English nationalist cabal who don't care about the union - unless there's votes or money in it
38
KDC
19/03/2021 10:30:18 31 24
bbc
Excellent news but some are still looking for negatives. I feel sorry for them if they’re glass is always half empty.
78
19/03/2021 10:35:16 26 31
bbc
You 'feel sorry for them'.
How gracious of you.
91
19/03/2021 10:36:40 15 2
bbc
They don't have glass, they have copper... and some of the poor sods have uluminium.
194
19/03/2021 10:53:54 6 5
bbc
Get your wallet out and fill up their glass then.
606
19/03/2021 12:34:41 4 0
bbc
I 'feel sorry for you' being uneducated....
39
19/03/2021 10:30:23 8 11
bbc
This is the measure of how stupid and ignorant the occupant of No10 is. This is a million times more important that any HS2 yet what is the priority?. Get the idiot out.
116
19/03/2021 10:40:12 2 1
bbc
You are deriding the last in a long line of occupants of No.10. All of whom have done the same. Who would you replace him with? The shower on the other side of the house who can't even add... yes I am thinking of a certain MP
189
19/03/2021 10:52:43 0 1
bbc
They are both high priority for different reasons. You can't board a train at your nearest backbone node, and you can't surf the internet from the nearest ballast!

If you're already getting fast internet, but have to endure a slow crowded train journey, they will say HS2 is a million times more important than any internet speed upgrade project!
40
19/03/2021 10:30:25 5 10
bbc
Westminster doing its best to bolster a sense of equality within the Union by leaving Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales until last.
Boris will then be wondering why there is so much support for devolution.
47
OwO
19/03/2021 10:32:06 1 3
bbc
Is there? Funny how the polls keep showing the opposite.
182
19/03/2021 10:50:13 0 1
bbc
It's because of devolution that this is only for England. You can't ask for devolution then expect those you devolved from to pick up the tab!
41
19/03/2021 10:30:46 6 6
bbc
Split Openreach out of BT
82
19/03/2021 10:35:59 1 2
bbc
This is absolutely essential. Without it, we'll just get more of the same.
42
ljs
19/03/2021 10:31:05 7 16
bbc
IF we had a COMPETENT goverment and BT were not so UTTERLY USELESS,

we would have had this for the LAST TEN YEARS,

like numerous other countries !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
927
19/03/2021 23:59:17 0 0
bbc
Why do people always knock BT? If Mrs Thatcher had left BT alone we would have had a world class fibre network in the 80's.
25
19/03/2021 10:28:17 9 12
bbc
Only £1.2bn available until 2024 just shows the lack of vision this sorry Government has. A mere drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things, a rounding error.

Still we can get that comms room fitted out seemingly in no time at all, for a mere £2.6m, flags and all.........
43
OwO
19/03/2021 10:31:09 9 3
bbc
£1.2b is a "mere drop in the ocean", but you see fit to complain about something that's only 0.2% of the cost?
98
19/03/2021 10:37:31 3 2
bbc
My point was this government can make speedy decisions and fund them on follies yet can't manage to spend a relatively modest sum on national infrastructure (that would likely pay itself back many times over through increased productivity).
292
19/03/2021 11:13:57 1 1
bbc
Well it is in comparison with the spend on HS2 and the fibre will start to deliver something worthwhile to (probably) a similar number of people sooner and in the long term far many more people than HS2 will, even if they extended it into Scotland.
32
19/03/2021 10:29:00 98 17
bbc
No doubt yet another justification for our internet service providers to charge us an arm and leg for the privilege to access it along with their regular price rises.
We have already had enough price hikes this year, council tax, utility bills etc
44
19/03/2021 10:31:45 46 110
bbc
So don't have it then. And obviously you are ASSUMING there will be price hikes, even though no pricing has been announced.

Jeez, some people just cannot be happy.
111
19/03/2021 10:39:23 23 5
bbc
Don't have internet? Are you serious?
It's a neccesarry utility now.
155
19/03/2021 10:46:23 13 6
bbc
Of course there will be price hikes. How else do you pay shareholder dividends and company bonuses? Look at any other nationalised utility, including BT.
197
19/03/2021 10:54:41 7 1
bbc
Then don't read those comments then.
226
19/03/2021 11:01:00 3 1
bbc
OH yes it has.
422
19/03/2021 11:21:48 1 0
bbc
Some people learn from experience.
458
Pip
19/03/2021 11:51:09 3 0
bbc
Naive comments..........?
832
19/03/2021 15:15:16 0 0
bbc
Openreach were determined to get rid of the price cap, so they must be planning to increase the price. The others who use openreach's network will obviously have to increase their prices too, when that happens. If they don't, they'll loose money, and no business is going to do that.
19
EdK
19/03/2021 10:26:24 2 4
bbc
There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Of course there is, Comrade . In the mouse trap. Free cheese for all.
46
19/03/2021 10:32:01 2 3
bbc
i live in rural scotland get 300kb on a good day and get decent phone signal too if i drive a couple of miles , hoping we get a turn soon but pretty sure it won't happen
117
19/03/2021 10:40:16 2 1
bbc
I live a horrible city in England. I get fast broadband and a great signal.

BUT, I also get litter, feral children loitering outside and abuse from the parents if I ask the children not to keep throwing their rubbish into my garden, car vandalised, traffic fumes as my road is a rat run.

Oh, and neighbours that think lock-down does not apply to any of them.

Want to swap?
172
19/03/2021 10:48:50 0 1
bbc
Might want to ask your local MSP why you're only getting 300kb, they are saying that the Digital Scotland Superfast Broadband (DSSB) programme successfully achieved its aim of delivering access to broadband speeds of 24Mbps to 95% of premises in Scotland in 2017. Their tagline now reads Superfast broadband is reaching 100% of premises in Scotland. 300kb isn't what I call superfast!
40
19/03/2021 10:30:25 5 10
bbc
Westminster doing its best to bolster a sense of equality within the Union by leaving Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales until last.
Boris will then be wondering why there is so much support for devolution.
47
OwO
19/03/2021 10:32:06 1 3
bbc
Is there? Funny how the polls keep showing the opposite.
187
19/03/2021 10:52:20 0 1
bbc
It's weird how when it comes to actual voting people support devolution and show polls to be wrong.
48
19/03/2021 10:32:06 4 4
bbc
We got FTTP last year and speed rarely drops below 200mb so nearly there. We also live in a leafy rural area of Suffolk. High BB speed, low Covid rate and beautiful fresh air.
103
19/03/2021 10:38:11 1 1
bbc
Come on, what's the catch?
113
19/03/2021 10:39:29 1 2
bbc
Thank you Margo, how's Gerry, Tom and Barbara.......??
119
19/03/2021 10:40:39 0 3
bbc
I think that is 200Mb.
49
19/03/2021 10:32:49 28 3
bbc
We had Virgin installed all around our village and over quite a wide area around 2yrs ago, (Yorkshire) they then had a Government grant towards the ground works etc, before that it was BT at a snail speed of 3mb/s, now we get up to 800mbs with an average after doing weekly speed checks of around 750mb/s through Virgin, it's not expensive compared to paying BT and Sky TV.
169
19/03/2021 10:48:34 15 8
bbc
It will become expensive since they've got you over a barrel. I can only use Virgin if I want more than 5mb/s. I'm also aware of a block of flats who only have Virgin connection. They wanted £70 a month for cheapest package.
219
19/03/2021 10:58:46 4 1
bbc
Once the introductory cheap first year ends the price will double. If you want to cancel it then good luck trying to through to them.
792
19/03/2021 13:57:57 1 0
bbc
Likewise, our village worked with Gigaclear back in 2012 to install fibre to every house. Only 7 miles from Oxford, but with BT it used to be around 0.7 - 2 Mb (depending on how far you were from the exchange), now it averages 700Mb in both directions bursting to nearly 1GB at times. Completely unlimited data.
924
19/03/2021 23:51:52 0 0
bbc
... the later is the biggest rip off.
50
19/03/2021 10:32:58 61 7
bbc
We all needed this a decade ago.
432
19/03/2021 11:44:26 9 38
bbc
why?
853
19/03/2021 16:19:45 3 0
bbc
A decade ago we were advertised 10Mbit/s and, on average, got 5.2Mbit/s. We have already come a long way! A private company is laying fibre around here with gigabit speeds for roughly the same cost as the major operators want for 64Mbit/s.
51
19/03/2021 10:33:00 20 12
bbc
Another scheme to give big bonuses to Openreach’s directors, snouts in the trough all round!
232
19/03/2021 11:01:44 4 5
bbc
Proof?
277
19/03/2021 11:10:36 4 2
bbc
BT is a business, it makes profits.
52
19/03/2021 10:20:07 2 4
bbc
No mention of the SNP brand and roll out being four years late?
132
19/03/2021 10:39:51 0 2
bbc
Isn't that fiction?
135
19/03/2021 10:42:42 0 1
bbc
no mention of every city in Scotland having started gigabit works years ago with a rival to openreach.
178
19/03/2021 10:50:03 0 1
bbc
Different story so no.
53
19/03/2021 10:20:40 4 9
bbc
So 20% of the budget released to cover 80% of the time available to the target.....

Yet another Boris broken promise of jam tomorrow on it's way.

As reliable as his year old oven ready Care System Plan.
83
19/03/2021 10:36:01 1 1
bbc
Not heard that one before. Glass still half empty ?
54
19/03/2021 10:21:54 1 6
bbc
Gigabit broadband: First areas to benefit announced

Yeah, we all love bread and circuses, moving pictures - you know the stuff.

But so much NOT announced, eh BBC ?

How usual.
55
19/03/2021 10:22:13 7 6
bbc
It'll still take 20mins for HYS moderators to post my comments....
153
19/03/2021 10:40:55 2 2
bbc
Here to, but I am in Wales, either broadband is poor here or Moderator has a major hang up with Welsh.

Posted some criticism of Corbyn last year, have had very few posts removed recently, and many of those reinstated when questioned, but 40mins + to have posts on BBC Sports 'double checked' and a little less here.

Broadband is difficult due to topography here, but Moderator has marked my card
167
19/03/2021 10:48:26 0 2
bbc
Irrelevant.
56
19/03/2021 10:23:30 51 3
bbc
South Korea has fantastic gigabite service pretty much all around the country, and it's taken for granted.

This is an important step for the UK development, so this is really good news. No surprise that our topography etc will be particularly challenging to some more remote communities.
295
19/03/2021 11:14:07 47 5
bbc
So does some urban parts of India. Students come from places like Israel, South Korea, India etc to study and find it surprising that the UK has such low internet speeds. They realise what they took for granted in their country, and assumed they would get the same, if not even higher speeds in the UK!
538
19/03/2021 12:08:24 3 0
bbc
And Japan
672
19/03/2021 12:56:35 4 0
bbc
So why did ukgov / biz decide on copper and not fibre?
Fibres been about for decades.
Going copper, rip out copper and equipment, lay down fibre and new equipment was in long term a waste of money.
UKpublic will end up paying twice.
20/03/2021 18:58:21 0 0
bbc
Korean and Japanese populations live in a very condensed space. It's easy to connect hundreds of people in one instance as they're all living in the same apartment block. UK it's the case of digging up entire pavements and individually connecting up fibre to homes. Not making excuses, just we shouldn't compare ourselves to some Asian countries.
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
57
19/03/2021 10:24:15 3 4
bbc
Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth.
8
19/03/2021 10:23:24 63 22
bbc
Remembering Cameron's promise 11 years ago, which amounted to nothing but hot air. In fairness all parties are to blame for this, 20 years ago they should have been on top of this. But like many of us working with computers back in the mid 90's. Many thought the internet would amount to nothing, why is was ignored. India puts us to shame with broadband and coding, something we should have done.
58
19/03/2021 10:26:29 53 15
bbc
"But like many of us working with computers back in the mid 90's. Many thought the internet would amount to nothing"

I quite literally, cannot stop laughing at that comment.
134
19/03/2021 10:42:37 18 4
bbc
Many did think the internet would amount to nothing why supermarkets and many others were very slow with online sales. People laughed at Amazon selling books, the bookshops all laughed. HMV who were selling DVD;'s out of Jersey for tax reasons were not worried. I am not talking about me, I knew it would be huge but many ignored it. Don't misunderstand my point.
136
19/03/2021 10:43:17 8 4
bbc
Quite, he shouldn't have been in IT then because we saw coming back in the 80s with early networks.
158
ian
19/03/2021 10:47:07 7 1
bbc
Early 90s maybe. The first version of Microsoft Internet Explorer was released in August 1995, before that, Microsoft thought the Internet would amount to nothing.
163
prw
19/03/2021 10:47:54 2 10
bbc
I felt the same. If someone thought the Internet was a flash in the pan?............I question why that person was even working in IT. No wonder the IT systems in most companies are still a load of c***p.
393
19/03/2021 11:36:54 4 0
bbc
Why, for the average joe that would probably be true. The internet may have been around for years by then, but the WWW (which is what people recognise as the internet) was only just getting off the ground. If you don't remember using Mosaic or even Netscape, you were not there either!
491
19/03/2021 11:51:12 0 0
bbc
Easy to amuse you.
729
19/03/2021 13:13:49 4 0
bbc
I guess you'll be younger than 30, then. Before you were born, we were allowed to have real jokes.
991
20/03/2021 09:09:40 0 0
bbc
Bill Gates wrote in one of his books that the WWW wasn’t going to amount to much. By the time the book got published it was clear he had got things very wrong. The book was withdrawn and a revised edition published. But there are still a lot of early versions out there.
20/03/2021 12:44:04 0 0
bbc
He was probably in NHS IT!
59
19/03/2021 10:27:27 3 5
bbc
The headline for this news item is "the majority of homes in the UK", but every single specified area is in England. Presumably the 15% of homes that the (Westminster) government have allowed BT to wriggle out of will be in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
133
19/03/2021 10:42:26 1 3
bbc
24 out of 29 million UK homes are in England. Therefore the majority of homes in the UK are in England.

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have each voted to "go it alone" with devolution, don't keep asking England to pay for stuff or grumble when England only policies are introduced!

Scotland? Check scotlandsuperfast.com
Wales? Check gov.wales/broadband-in-wales
NI? Check nidirect.gov.uk
206
19/03/2021 10:56:28 0 1
bbc
or maybe it's a devolved power? None of the areas listed benefit from a Barnet formula boost & are almost always last in the queue for investment or infrastructure spend.

No HS2 in the South West or East Anglia; nor Cumbria & Northumbria, which are not part of the north (who knew it ends at Leeds), so don't see HS2 either. Scotland, Wales & NI can't always be first, or rather first after London.
3
mc
19/03/2021 10:21:38 14 15
bbc
Another empty promise?
60
19/03/2021 10:28:08 1 1
bbc
Another moan ?

This is progress, seeing things in terms of 'The Tories' or not, is a bit silly given its decades between Labour Governments.
16
19/03/2021 10:25:53 11 8
bbc
Every home in Britain??? Don’t see any areas in the devolved nations in the early list.
61
19/03/2021 10:33:08 8 3
bbc
You're correct there. Seems to be another BBC News article that doesn't clarify any other areas apart from England. The gap feels like it's widening and UK often means England. Please don't forget us in Wales and the rest please BBC News.
31
19/03/2021 10:28:59 5 8
bbc
It will get done, so long as there is a guaranteed profit for millionaires.
62
19/03/2021 10:33:16 2 2
bbc
We don't live in a communist country, and companies are not charities, so yes, someone will make a profit. You get paid to work don't you? Isn't that you making a 'profit'?

Profit should be a goal, not a dirty word.
105
19/03/2021 10:38:13 2 2
bbc
Creating a national infrastructure helps small companies to profit, so put the national investment in to 100% of the country, don't leave it to profiteers who won't finish the job once the profit margin runs out.
207
19/03/2021 10:56:55 2 2
bbc
Getting paid to work isn't necessarily making a profit, the profit is what's left over after the bills and for a lot of us that's nothing.
463
19/03/2021 11:53:05 0 0
bbc
Profit is just a word but seeking to increase it by making employees poorer is unacceptable.
28
19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
bbc
It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
63
OwO
19/03/2021 10:33:16 37 32
bbc
Maybe don't live in the absolute middle of nowhere? The idea that you have some entitlement to instant communication just because is ridiculous.
237
19/03/2021 11:02:18 9 3
bbc
I thought it had been added to the, ever growing, list of human rights!
309
19/03/2021 11:18:15 13 2
bbc
The idea that everyone lives in the same place is ridiculous. Perhaps they are a farmer, vet, utility worker. Access to good communications is a necessity in the modern age hence why the Government have been trying to push the broadband rollout.
746
19/03/2021 13:21:42 1 0
bbc
That argument didn’t work when all those who holed up in compact towns weren’t allowed out. Then it was stampy feet it’s not fair I haven’t got a garden I want to drive miles into the country
821
19/03/2021 14:35:11 1 0
bbc
What makes you think that it's only people "in the absolute middle of nowhere" that are in this situation. There are towns and businesses in rural areas who are in this situation. Openreach are required to provide connections to everyone, but because even dial-up is still considered to be a connection, they get away with denying people an adequate connection. Should everyone abandon rural areas?
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
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ljs
19/03/2021 10:33:19 5 4
bbc
Did corbyn even know what the internet was ???????????
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19/03/2021 10:33:33 14 11
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It's a start, but of course it won't stop people moaning.

Meanwhile I look forward to my ultra-fast broadband connection when it comes. If I get it before the next general election, then who knows? I might actually vote to reelect the government that finally got off its backside to do something about the UK's broadband situation!
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19/03/2021 10:47:44 6 2
bbc
If people have issues with a service they pay for the they're entitled to moan, you gonna pay extortionate prices for a service you're not getting and be all smiles? More fool you if so.
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19/03/2021 10:22:51 181 24
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"Originally it had promised to roll out gigabit-speed broadband to every home in Britain by 2025 but that was reduced to 85%"

Why do govts make promises everyone knows they'll break?

Wouldn't it be better if they just said "look, we're going to do our best and we hope for 100%, but this may not be achievable - we'll work towards 100% and keep you all updated"? Surely that's better than lying?
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Bob
19/03/2021 10:33:36 7 12
bbc
It was a post-pandemic reign-in. And I suspect also partly due to BT actually, for once, doing quite well with the rollout. Alt nets are also making good progress.

To that end why throw public money if private is willing to pay.
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19/03/2021 10:34:03 40 10
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I live less than 4 miles outside of Macclesfield and am still waiting for mains drainage and gas supply............
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19/03/2021 10:38:13 41 11
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when you bought the house sadly you forgot the 3 most important matters to consider

Location
Location
Location
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19/03/2021 11:09:59 7 1
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You will not get a gas supply now, global warming.
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19/03/2021 11:29:32 2 2
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We have no mains drainage or gas - it's brilliant. But, despite a massive internet connection upgrade 5 years ago, it's still rubbish. If you have an important conference, you have to get the rest of the household off the internet and then cross you fingers. What really helps is all the houses they keep building. Just hope they get it right this time - a proper improvement rather than a quick fix.
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19/03/2021 12:43:22 3 7
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A
Comment posted by alanmm, today at 10:34alanmm
10:34
I live less than 4 miles outside of Macclesfield and am still waiting for mains drainage and gas supply

Why don’t you move a decent area?
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19/03/2021 10:34:04 6 6
bbc
As always just focussing on the large profitable areas rather than providing a fully inclusive service.
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19/03/2021 10:44:26 2 1
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Cornwall, Cumbria, Dorset... did you even read the article?
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19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
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It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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19/03/2021 10:34:18 25 11
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There's pluses and minuses to living in the country as there are in urban environments - e.g. houses are generally cheaper in the 'country' so perhaps you should expect less infrastructure, etc..
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19/03/2021 10:54:43 15 19
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Even though you pay the same taxes, expect less. That sounds fair....
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19/03/2021 13:22:13 0 0
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Agreed but only if we can pay less into it
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19/03/2021 14:40:28 1 0
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So you think that a connection fast enough to use modern internet services is too much to ask? The money being spent on the gigabit upgrades could be used to add extra boxes to boost the signals in the existing cables, to give an adequate connection in rural areas first. Then upgrade connections for the rest of us. It wouldn't stop the upgrade to gigabit, just delay it a bit.
987
20/03/2021 08:45:25 0 0
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Not any more, with citydwellers buying holiday homes.
Look at this week's news.
Houses in Cornwall have highest demand, since Covid forced WFH.
Locals are even less likely to afford a home.
20/03/2021 21:34:22 0 0
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So maybe tax should also be geographical. Live outside of a suburban toilet- sorry - area and in return to putting up with those who do fleeing every so often to spread Covid and leave their rubbish and excrement everywhere, we can pay 10%. It works it's way up to those who have the advantages of trains in their sewers and can pay 50%! Less infrastructure - less tax.
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19/03/2021 10:34:26 3 5
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Whilst many think that this is good news just remember guys that it has to be paid for.

Price rises will be coming from an internet provider near you.
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19/03/2021 10:45:41 0 1
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Well even without that happens anyway.
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19/03/2021 10:34:33 1 4
bbc
Yay, now we can stream woke programs even faster. Thanks to all of you, we can't even watch the Muppets anymore.

Besides, not really sure we are concentrating on download speeds when uploads are so dire
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19/03/2021 10:42:05 0 1
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That's to do with service providers using ADSL instead of SDSL, which uses more of the bandwidth for downloads than uploads because that's what most people need.
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19/03/2021 10:45:01 0 1
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Yeah you can watch the muppets, it's available to all, nothing has been cancelled, you're just a sucker that believes the lies you are told, about 12 episodes have a short disclaimer on them is all, go watch them and enjoy or are you too afraid to be proven wrong?
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19/03/2021 10:34:42 14 9
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So much for BRITISH Telecom rolling this out to the UK, no mention of Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland then..?
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19/03/2021 10:41:36 11 5
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Don't mention these far off lands. The government will have to get a map out to find out where they are!
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19/03/2021 14:49:17 1 0
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well to be fair we will soon be separate countries.
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19/03/2021 10:34:45 338 11
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I live in a remote part of Scotland. A non profit organisation set up to get broadband to remote areas and the signal is bounced around on land based satellite dishes from places that have fibre. I get about 60 mbps for £15 a month. No need for a landline. When a profit builds we get upgraded equipment and faster speeds. Just shows you what can be achieved when the profit motive is removed.
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19/03/2021 10:55:29 21 147
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Precisely, leave it to the market.
I live in Orkney and use mobile bb - but I don't get 60mbps for £15 a month!
Tell me more please - peter.breingan@gmail.com
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19/03/2021 11:03:04 15 1
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We have the same - but with fibre brought to the village and then 'bounced around'. A bit more expensive than your example, but very competitive (especially as it is the only possibility of fast broadband).
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19/03/2021 11:13:57 8 21
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But the infrastructure behind your broadband only exists due to companies who make a profit.
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19/03/2021 11:26:51 12 0
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What's the latency like though? Bandwidth at 60mbps is good going, I'm on FTTC and get less than that, but plenty for a house of three.

Latency, if it's poor it rules out things like online gaming and video chat
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19/03/2021 11:26:55 5 48
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So presumably you would also like food to be made available on a profit-free basis. How immoral for companies to make profits on that.
Let's nationalise supermarkets and have a central committee decide which products should be on the shelves.
Let's make them free of charge, with availability based on need not ability to pay. It would be so much fairer.
We could call it the National Food Service.
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19/03/2021 11:24:44 5 3
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im 85 miles from london, a high ranking member of the armed forces, someone that should not be in a position where my own internet is on a par with eritrea, they get 3.5-5mb a second, i get 3-3.5mb/s this is BT in south cambridgeshire.
509
19/03/2021 12:01:41 2 0
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Wow, we get between 1 and 2.5 Mbps from BT, pay for line rental plus broadband (Rural area) Just hope the upgrade doesn't cost even more!
512
19/03/2021 12:01:48 4 3
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All of this investment might be a big waste when (if) Elon Musk's Starlink gets going. No more wired connections. Indeed, if you can get a good mobile signal now, then Tesco mobile is doing unlimited data for £30 per month. Get a mobile, set it up as a wireless hotspot and Bob's your fifth uncle half-removed. Wonderful.
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19/03/2021 12:06:40 0 0
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What you call "land based satellite dishes" are probably microwave antenna (which are of limited capacity); perfect for remote, low population density areas and for feeding broadcast TV from the studio to a TV antenna in a remote location but about as useful as a chocolate fireguard for internet access in more highly populated areas.
551
19/03/2021 12:11:57 0 3
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"land based satellite dishes"... Clearly an expert opinion.
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19/03/2021 12:18:48 2 0
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Similarly I'm in North Scotland with a 40 Mbps fixed wireless broadband network funded by community windfarm benefit money. We gave up waiting for BT and the government.
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19/03/2021 12:32:39 2 0
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If they could guarantee me 60Mbps, I'd move to a remote part of Scotland today....somewhere on the NW coast would be lovely!?
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19/03/2021 12:52:36 0 1
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There is oneweb and starlink rolling out.. Satellite broadband.. No cable required.
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19/03/2021 13:08:05 2 0
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Absolutely I'm paying a fortune to Virgin & on average it goes down about once a month
765
19/03/2021 13:39:07 1 1
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Can you really have a part of Scotland that is TOO remote? :-)
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19/03/2021 10:34:46 1 2
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The end of the world will be streamed
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Didnt see any places other than England - Wales is such a backward country Removed
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19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
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It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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19/03/2021 10:35:04 20 3
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Did you geniuses not read the article? The areas mentioned ARE rural!
552
19/03/2021 12:12:36 1 0
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Thanks for calling me a genius, my teacher said that I wouldn’t amount to much and now I’ve proved her wrong ??
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19/03/2021 14:48:29 0 0
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But there's no confirmation that it will cover more than the biggest towns. Those areas are large. I sincerely hope that they will cover the whole of those areas, and move on to other rural counties. But I, and judging by other comments on here, many others, have doubts.
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19/03/2021 10:35:06 29 6
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Huge areas across Scotland - if not the rest of upland Britain - remain mobile blackspots. Not even 2 G signal is obtainable.
Wafting money to a few service providers expecting change is naive. Across most profitable areas connectivity will accelerate away. What need to happen is for full Local grants be given to remote community to connect themselves back, as best they may, using wifi to fibre.
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KDC
19/03/2021 10:30:18 31 24
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Excellent news but some are still looking for negatives. I feel sorry for them if they’re glass is always half empty.
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19/03/2021 10:35:16 26 31
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You 'feel sorry for them'.
How gracious of you.
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19/03/2021 10:35:33 213 6
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I would have commented earlier but my broadband is too slow
It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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833
19/03/2021 15:19:15 4 0
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Very droll!
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19/03/2021 22:08:04 0 0
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Pardon ?
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19/03/2021 10:35:50 2 2
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Can I get mobile phone signal too? Not even 3G, I'll take just a bar.
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19/03/2021 10:35:58 1 3
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Meanwhile Cityfibre are years ahead and are already providing gigabit connections to several cities.
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19/03/2021 10:30:46 6 6
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Split Openreach out of BT
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19/03/2021 10:35:59 1 2
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This is absolutely essential. Without it, we'll just get more of the same.
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19/03/2021 10:20:40 4 9
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So 20% of the budget released to cover 80% of the time available to the target.....

Yet another Boris broken promise of jam tomorrow on it's way.

As reliable as his year old oven ready Care System Plan.
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19/03/2021 10:36:01 1 1
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Not heard that one before. Glass still half empty ?
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19/03/2021 10:49:35 0 1
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Yes if you're waiting for a refill promised by Boris.
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19/03/2021 10:36:02 1 5
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I do wonder if after all this investment, will most of us be using 5G and not bothering with a broadband subscription.
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19/03/2021 10:36:03 0 5
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BT Openreach has ignored East London for ages, ludicrously low (sub 5mb) broadband and no road map for improvement. Good news though, tech is leapfrogging the laggards at BT: Three broadband now offers 300mb connection over 5G and Community Fibre/Hyperoptic are putting lots of fibre down that you can wirelessly connect to... Progress at last...
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19/03/2021 10:40:55 1 2
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East London is a small town in Cape Province South Africa. I take it you are actually refering to the East End of London UK. Maybe this is the cause of the confusion
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19/03/2021 10:36:03 6 3
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Might be needed for businesses, but for home use, a bit unecessary. Even with 4g, I get 60 mb dowbload, 50mb upload and a ping in the low 20's. You can easily get a 4g router, and it's only about £20 per month unlimited incl call etc. That's before we even look at 5g
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19/03/2021 10:43:38 4 2
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I live in rural west Oxfordshire and get 7 mb download and 0.50 upload and pay £35 a month for that to EE. I could go to Gigaclear but that's around £30 a month for 30mb and a lot more for higher speeds and then I still haven't got the free phonecalls. On another note, we also have no bus service.
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19/03/2021 12:28:38 1 0
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Lucky you!
You’re right that it’s a good option for some but many in rural areas can’t get 4G ( or even reliable 3G).
It would do us all good to refrain from imagining our own experience is universal.
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19/03/2021 10:36:04 11 8
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The first to benefit will be homes and businesses in Cambridgeshire, Cornwall, Cumbria, Dorset, Durham, Essex, Northumberland, South Tyneside and Tees Valley.

The next areas are expected to be Norfolk, Shropshire, Suffolk, Worcestershire, Hampshire and the Isle of Wight.

Mark in red the ones in Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland. Not got a red pen? Don’t matter you don’t need one!
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19/03/2021 10:42:15 6 2
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So one of the largest counties has to wait behind ones that have low populations- obviously the levelling up does not include Lancashire!
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19/03/2021 11:30:14 0 0
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Ask the question of those elected to run those other parts of the country then: I know it's only the vanity projects that appeal to the separatist minority in Scotland that get funded, and the last thing that they want is an informed electorate so keep the speeds low & the people stupid.
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19/03/2021 11:36:01 0 0
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That is what devolution means! If you need this in Wales lobby the Welsh government, don't complain about an English bias!
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DDC
19/03/2021 10:36:20 139 14
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Maybe they can fix all the pot holes in our roads while digging up the country to install the super fast broadband cabling?
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19/03/2021 10:38:54 38 25
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The cabling is primarily done under the pathways.
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19/03/2021 11:15:16 10 2
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Unfortunately that is not their remit, but they will be creating huge numbers of patches in the roads that are prone to becoming potholes
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19/03/2021 15:37:33 2 0
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The plan is to create more potholes until they merge and hey presto flat road.
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19/03/2021 10:28:34 1 3
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Hampshire already has super fast broadband ? Both of NATS’ ATC main hubs are based there. You’re not going to route infrastructure to there alone, what would be the point ?
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CJ
19/03/2021 10:36:32 0 2
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There are MANY parts of Hampshire that are fibre-less. Living in a town I only got fibre a few yrs ago. Now 42meg Fttc. Was just 4.2meg on a very good day. 1.5meg on all copper wires being standard max
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19/03/2021 10:36:32 7 7
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Is there anything that -wouldn't- get the professional moaners out on here in force?

I'm really looking forward to the end of lockdown, so that I can get back to going out, enjoying my retirement, rather than ending up looking at the rubbish the "experts" spout on here!
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19/03/2021 10:38:57 6 6
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Hmmm, nobody forces you to read the comments.

A bit of masochism in that....
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19/03/2021 10:46:43 2 3
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Is that not a moan in itself?
Maybe you're only an amateur.
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19/03/2021 10:49:18 3 2
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Momentum
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KDC
19/03/2021 10:30:18 31 24
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Excellent news but some are still looking for negatives. I feel sorry for them if they’re glass is always half empty.
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19/03/2021 10:36:40 15 2
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They don't have glass, they have copper... and some of the poor sods have uluminium.
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19/03/2021 11:05:53 4 0
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And when they get fibre they will have glass
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19/03/2021 10:27:02 11 19
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Another manifesto promise broken. Ah well, who cares, the Tories certainly don’t.
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19/03/2021 10:36:44 3 1
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Unfortunately the Tory manifesto failed to mention spending on a global pandemic which came just 14 months later. If it had, then there wouldn't be anything for superfast internet.
Should have voted Corbyn's Labour. Everything would have been nationalised by now with free internet access / broadband to all. Internet is like water. Should be a part of basic human rights. Access to education, new jobs, new opportunity. Sky is the limit.
Want to make people a backward nation?Deprive them of it or make it really expensive so only the Tories and their mates make profits from it
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19/03/2021 10:30:45 3 6
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So many people agreed with you that we should have voted for Corbyn, and the paradise he promised - much like he explained when he appeared on Iranian TV.
His close association with that country, and the money they paid him, tells you all you need to know as to why he was rejected.
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19/03/2021 13:00:37 0 1
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Indeed he was so awful that Johnson could even wallop him
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19/03/2021 10:31:50 0 2
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It would be nice just to have fast broadband without daily drop outs and no I do not live in the "sticks" but in a town of 14000
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19/03/2021 10:33:00 1 5
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Bread and circuses :)

" C'mon Pelaton !!! " ?? ??

But so little on the Anti-Freedom laws bbc.
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19/03/2021 10:28:42 118 22
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It's always the same. Broadband speeds get updated, 90% of the country get connected, IT firms (thinking they are clever) make their websites more complicated, and the 10 in rural areas that are not connected (we've not even got 3G let alone 5G) get left behind.

So much for levelling up!
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19/03/2021 10:37:09 25 2
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Agreed, if a website is too slow to load not because of internet speed but because of bad design I'll simply find another one. Things like do you want to subscribe/give opinion/take a survey etc. I also think auto playing videos are the spawn of Satan.
988
20/03/2021 08:48:59 0 0
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Agreed, but block rhem.
Easily dond qith good software.
I block pictures displaying on email automatically, security purposes not bandwidth reasons.
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19/03/2021 10:27:55 77 10
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And for millions we still can't get local BBC tv in HD.
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19/03/2021 10:37:22 69 37
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Ah, so there is a silver lining :)
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OwO
19/03/2021 10:31:09 9 3
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£1.2b is a "mere drop in the ocean", but you see fit to complain about something that's only 0.2% of the cost?
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19/03/2021 10:37:31 3 2
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My point was this government can make speedy decisions and fund them on follies yet can't manage to spend a relatively modest sum on national infrastructure (that would likely pay itself back many times over through increased productivity).
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19/03/2021 10:23:24 63 22
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Remembering Cameron's promise 11 years ago, which amounted to nothing but hot air. In fairness all parties are to blame for this, 20 years ago they should have been on top of this. But like many of us working with computers back in the mid 90's. Many thought the internet would amount to nothing, why is was ignored. India puts us to shame with broadband and coding, something we should have done.
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19/03/2021 10:37:49 22 6
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"India puts us to shame with broadband and coding" - nonsense on both counts!
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19/03/2021 10:43:25 7 6
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No it's not, they have been teaching children for years. Investing in the infrastructure and will be a global superpower for too long.
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19/03/2021 10:37:54 1 2
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Plenty of areas of the UK already have gigabit broadband but not with BT.

Stop waiting on Openreach. They won't do anything unless their mouths are stuffed full with taxpayer's gold.