Green Brexit didn't happen, says environmental coalition
16/03/2021 | news | politics | 513
But the government says Brexit enables the UK to set its own rules to deliver better environmental outcomes.
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16/03/2021 12:18:06 131 34
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Gove promised a Green Brexit.

So it was obviously never going to happen.
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16/03/2021 12:26:52 73 21
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And neither will the green jobs revolution happen
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16/03/2021 15:03:56 20 1
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Nothing Gove or the leave campaign promised has come to fruition. Not a thing.. its still just lies and more damned lies.
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16/03/2021 16:33:38 13 3
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No, we don't need pay rises for nurses, a cleaner environment or overseas aid. We have to cut funding for these to buy more nukes. In what universe is this a good idea?
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16/03/2021 18:11:53 3 8
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It is far too early to say as we only left on 1st January 2021 any agricultural changes we make will take several years to take affect. So this is a non story BBC and you should have rebutted their statements.
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17/03/2021 09:32:31 1 0
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So all the labour, green & lib dem supporters have already given up all hope of ever being in power and setting the environmental agenda.
But just to remind everyone the next election is May 2024 latest, vote for who you believe you should vote for, if the environment is your most critical concern vote accordingly. Free from the EU the new Govt can set what ever environmental rules they want
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16/03/2021 12:18:46 87 18
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Ah well, that was sort of predictable. Apart from that, UK is mulling to allow GE-modified crops to be legalized in the UK. US Monsanto domination of the UK agricultural market, here we come...
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16/03/2021 12:46:53 31 86
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Who wants a "green" Brexit anyway? People still need to make a living, drive to work, go on holiday.

Just look at their policies in Scotland (and the bloke leading them), enough to send a shiver down anyone's spine.
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16/03/2021 13:14:28 10 10
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GM, if used carefully, could actually reduce the use of harmful pesticides on farms. Obviously it needs to be treated cautiously, but if used carefully could be a force for good.
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16/03/2021 20:19:10 0 0
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No chance, orange man gone. Democrats don't, won't do anything bad, you not heard ?
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17/03/2021 00:40:29 0 0
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Nkt just crops, but animals.
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16/03/2021 12:23:34 66 10
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Politicians promise something they were never going to deliver - shocker. This is the UK we have for the foreseeable future.
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16/03/2021 13:06:28 23 50
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What about the vaccines EU countries promise to their people but can;t deliver? All politicians make dodgy promises.
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16/03/2021 15:33:30 5 2
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No it is mostly the Tories.
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16/03/2021 19:16:24 0 0
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Like the mayor of London eh! cheaper fares for all!
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16/03/2021 12:18:06 131 34
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Gove promised a Green Brexit.

So it was obviously never going to happen.
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16/03/2021 12:26:52 73 21
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And neither will the green jobs revolution happen
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16/03/2021 13:39:18 22 4
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Not under the Tories they wont. Not unless they can find a way to ensure their cronies make a few millions out of it.
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16/03/2021 12:28:07 51 11
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Since when do we believe promises made by the government?
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16/03/2021 12:44:22 55 20
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Not when it is the Tories
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16/03/2021 12:28:17 13 14
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I didn't vote for a green,or any other coloured Brexit,just Brexit,& I never heard of any greenie helping us win it either.
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16/03/2021 12:53:26 10 0
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The greens were against Brexit.
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16/03/2021 12:33:29 30 10
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"fewer"

How many does Bojo have?
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16/03/2021 12:31:31 41 15
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If its not profitable then the tories aren't interested.
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17/03/2021 08:41:28 1 3
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So why are they subsidising renewable energy to the tune of £400 per family per annum? They seem to be very interested in the expensive green madness that we are all paying for.
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16/03/2021 12:33:29 30 10
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"fewer"

How many does Bojo have?
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16/03/2021 12:48:54 6 7
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Why is relevant how many sprogs Bozo the Clown has? I mean it's not as if he's actually 'green' is it? ... Yes, yes, I know he SAID he was, but did anyone actually believe him? I know I didn't, and I voted for him, I mean anyone who believes someone who wants to build on every scrap of green space in England is interested in the environment is a fool. Why did I vote for him? Corbyn, why else?
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16/03/2021 12:56:44 5 5
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However Bojo isn't a full time and lifelong environmental protestor, practice what you preach. Equally ironic as Emma Thompson & friends jetting thousands of miles pumping out CO2 to protest about CO2.
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16/03/2021 13:17:48 7 2
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And Mogg, feckless the pair of them..........
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16/03/2021 13:36:27 5 0
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"How many does Bojo have?"

No-one knows.
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16/03/2021 13:37:23 2 0
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Struggling, can you give us multiple choice options.

Does the first to guess get a PPE contract?
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16/03/2021 14:10:01 4 0
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Someone recently shared a image with me of various UK PMs showing how many children they all have. Johnson was the only one to have "that we know of" after his total.
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16/03/2021 12:34:47 66 19
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LOL To be completely expected - look at the muddle they're in about a coal mine in Cumbria - "yes we want profits, but we've got to pay lip service about the green guff we talked to keep the ecowarriors happy"
Promise made during the Brexit lying sessions to the public were exactly that, lies!
The Tories just want to be able to spout meaningless slogans whilst raking in the profits from their lies
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16/03/2021 14:15:33 31 6
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Completely agree. The made promises to get power, then broke those promises when they didn't suit them any more. Instead, they use their power and our money to line the pockets of their rich, tax-dodging friends while breaking the law to do it. Reprehensible, but so many will still jump to their defense instead of admit to being wrong
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16/03/2021 15:13:19 1 3
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They were going to mine for coking coal. Not for power, but to make reliable steel that the UK society relies on. Of course if the facts are too difficult for you to understand, just ask and we will help.
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16/03/2021 12:36:14 18 15
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Greens: try and get elected instead of blocking the traffic and throwing your toys out of the pram!
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16/03/2021 12:43:53 16 9
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If the 'greens' weren't all barking mad, e.g. calling for all men to be curfewed after 6PM, and were genuinely interested in environmental issues, e.g. slowing population increase and immigration to the UK, rather than encouraging it, then I'd vote for them.

Weird, isn't it? 'Green' in name only, politically raving loonies.
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16/03/2021 12:39:08 105 26
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No it’s was a Blue Brexit, a Brexit designed to support the Tory party
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16/03/2021 13:24:35 37 11
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Black and blue Brexit you mean.
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a flag sh**gers Brexit you mean
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16/03/2021 16:35:03 8 2
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As shown by the new and very expensive press briefing room, which appears to be very blue!!
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16/03/2021 12:50:08 3 3
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I'd love to see your educational credentials as you seem to want cast doubt on everybody else's.
I can cope with losing a bit here and winning a bit there. Parhaps you can inform us morons which bit we've won with?
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16/03/2021 12:32:23 9 14
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Thanks BBC for making the salty remainers happily unhappy
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16/03/2021 12:36:14 18 15
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Greens: try and get elected instead of blocking the traffic and throwing your toys out of the pram!
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16/03/2021 12:43:53 16 9
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If the 'greens' weren't all barking mad, e.g. calling for all men to be curfewed after 6PM, and were genuinely interested in environmental issues, e.g. slowing population increase and immigration to the UK, rather than encouraging it, then I'd vote for them.

Weird, isn't it? 'Green' in name only, politically raving loonies.
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16/03/2021 13:10:12 5 3
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The thin veneer of their environmental arguments quickly show that its a extreme left wing dogma that they peddle.

We are 3 months into Brexit & because they havent collapsed Capitalism & the West they are complaining????
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16/03/2021 12:28:07 51 11
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Since when do we believe promises made by the government?
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16/03/2021 12:44:22 55 20
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Not when it is the Tories
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16/03/2021 12:52:34 9 8
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You believe the 'promises' of the likes of Corbyn?!
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16/03/2021 14:19:22 3 2
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Or LibDem.
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16/03/2021 12:45:35 39 16
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The Tories open their mouths and nothing but lies and nonsense come out...SHOCK HORROR!
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16/03/2021 12:46:11 23 8
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It didn't , it won't
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16/03/2021 12:18:46 87 18
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Ah well, that was sort of predictable. Apart from that, UK is mulling to allow GE-modified crops to be legalized in the UK. US Monsanto domination of the UK agricultural market, here we come...
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16/03/2021 12:46:53 31 86
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Who wants a "green" Brexit anyway? People still need to make a living, drive to work, go on holiday.

Just look at their policies in Scotland (and the bloke leading them), enough to send a shiver down anyone's spine.
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16/03/2021 14:13:14 21 5
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I didn't want Brexit, no matter what the colour. In German local election in the south-west, Green party has received most votes with over 30% and will be in a coalition govt (not the first time; I'm from there originally). Green isn't bad, but it has to be green and realistic. How come Farage gets so much media time? Do you ever hear of Green, LibDems these days? FPTP voting is a con...
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17/03/2021 06:07:55 2 1
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Like all Brexiteers, short sighted and jam today. Let the kids pick the bill up. You can tell you voted Brexit you have nothing to offer for the future.
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17/03/2021 10:57:52 0 0
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Enjoy life whilst you can! its going to get worse.
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16/03/2021 12:47:20 51 22
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Did any of the promised brexit 'work out?'
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16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
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Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
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16/03/2021 12:33:29 30 10
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"fewer"

How many does Bojo have?
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16/03/2021 12:48:54 6 7
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Why is relevant how many sprogs Bozo the Clown has? I mean it's not as if he's actually 'green' is it? ... Yes, yes, I know he SAID he was, but did anyone actually believe him? I know I didn't, and I voted for him, I mean anyone who believes someone who wants to build on every scrap of green space in England is interested in the environment is a fool. Why did I vote for him? Corbyn, why else?
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16/03/2021 12:50:08 3 3
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I'd love to see your educational credentials as you seem to want cast doubt on everybody else's.
I can cope with losing a bit here and winning a bit there. Parhaps you can inform us morons which bit we've won with?
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16/03/2021 12:50:33 19 17
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May surprise some but the Greens, Lib Dems and others with a Green Agenda were on the losing side in the referendum.
Britain voted for an economic and independent Brexit not a green brexit.
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16/03/2021 12:57:00 11 13
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You already had independence.

You ended up with a worse economy.

You didn't get a green Brexit whether you wanted one or not.

Apart from that...
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16/03/2021 15:31:25 2 0
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Perhaps they were, but collectively, they got 55% of the votes.
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16/03/2021 12:50:56 3 6
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the outcome for the tories was a 180 seat majority and boris johnson made prime minister,thats what brexit was all about it wasnt the benefits of leaving that have came around it was the deal that the tories say is a great deal and will protect our farmers and fishermen,it wont do that only being a member would help these people and non members dont get any benefits unless it suits europe/
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16/03/2021 12:57:30 10 6
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Being a member of the EU would not help our vaccine-manufacturing pharmaceutical companies, nor any of our citizens who benefit from our vaccination programme.
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16/03/2021 12:51:25 17 12
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Not 3 months since Brexit and Harrabin is already complaining.
In years to come will we see offshore wind farms as environmentally damaging? How do birds and fish adapt to them?
How many heavily polluted Chinese goods does Harrabin use? Phones, laptops, batteries even bicycle? What locally sourced goods, rather than cheaper imported, with higherCO2 footprint?
Greens: do as we say not as we do.
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16/03/2021 12:59:41 17 7
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Bit like Justin Rowlands flying to the Antarctic research base to do a small article. He could have asked one of the 100+ people down there to seen a photo & do a couple of Zoom interviews. But no the BBC so called environmentalist are blind to their own actions.
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16/03/2021 13:16:33 3 2
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"What locally sourced goods, rather than cheaper imported, with higherCO2 footprint?"

How do you know it has a higher CO2 footprint just because it is local? It depends on the energy mix and the mode of transport of every component in the supply chain.
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16/03/2021 12:52:27 51 21
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ANOTHER Brexit lie?

I honestly cannot keep up. When we will learn that 'going it alone' effectively means Tory government corruption and financial theft, whilst aspiring to meet the very lowest standards for individual gain. Going it alone was never a mandate that was going to work for little England and we now all just suffer the massive slide in standards.
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16/03/2021 12:55:09 28 53
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Do you really want to rejoin that fiasco that is the EU??
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16/03/2021 12:44:22 55 20
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Not when it is the Tories
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16/03/2021 12:52:34 9 8
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You believe the 'promises' of the likes of Corbyn?!
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16/03/2021 13:08:05 5 9
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Yes I believed the promise that he would destroy the economy because the gains the human race have made due to capitalism are totally ignored by the likes of Corbyn. To paraphrase Winston Churchill "Capitalism is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

Most, not all, of the the XR & eco-zealots arguments are leftwing under the thin veneer or "environmentalism"
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16/03/2021 12:28:17 13 14
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I didn't vote for a green,or any other coloured Brexit,just Brexit,& I never heard of any greenie helping us win it either.
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16/03/2021 12:53:26 10 0
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The greens were against Brexit.
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16/03/2021 13:12:56 1 3
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If it was up the the Greens Britain would look like the old Kowloon walled city!
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16/03/2021 12:54:40 11 7
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From Dec 2019 Tory promises, I cannot see any green, promises happening, time and time again the electorates are sucked by jam tomorrow with the Tories. They cannot run the economy, its go worse, and that was before covid. They sling mud at all other political groups. I would not trust this lot with anything.
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16/03/2021 12:52:27 51 21
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ANOTHER Brexit lie?

I honestly cannot keep up. When we will learn that 'going it alone' effectively means Tory government corruption and financial theft, whilst aspiring to meet the very lowest standards for individual gain. Going it alone was never a mandate that was going to work for little England and we now all just suffer the massive slide in standards.
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16/03/2021 12:55:09 28 53
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Do you really want to rejoin that fiasco that is the EU??
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16/03/2021 13:00:11 18 10
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Why is it a fiasco? Don't tell me, is it something to do with safety concerns over the vaccine which the UK hasn't exported?
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16/03/2021 13:22:17 25 7
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Yes please. ASAP
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16/03/2021 15:35:26 2 16
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Absolutely not - apart from the odd holiday.
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16/03/2021 18:02:54 5 2
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Please explain.
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16/03/2021 18:30:55 1 11
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Don;t worry Alison, the Eu will not last much longer, there will be nothing left to join. Unless of course they rewind to a simple trade agreement.
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17/03/2021 07:41:35 5 0
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Yes. much less of a fiasco than giving Jobnson " control".
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16/03/2021 12:33:29 30 10
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"fewer"

How many does Bojo have?
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16/03/2021 12:56:44 5 5
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However Bojo isn't a full time and lifelong environmental protestor, practice what you preach. Equally ironic as Emma Thompson & friends jetting thousands of miles pumping out CO2 to protest about CO2.
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16/03/2021 13:02:53 10 3
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"practise".

Bojo jetted off to Afghanistan as Foreign Secretary to avoid voting against the Heathrow runway expansion - the one where he was going to lie in front of the bulldozers.
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16/03/2021 12:56:44 27 8
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A government with cloth ears and dollar eyes. Lockdown has highlighted the need for green space and easy access to nature. Economic development at the price of mental health and wellbeing - as usual.
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16/03/2021 12:50:33 19 17
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May surprise some but the Greens, Lib Dems and others with a Green Agenda were on the losing side in the referendum.
Britain voted for an economic and independent Brexit not a green brexit.
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16/03/2021 12:57:00 11 13
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You already had independence.

You ended up with a worse economy.

You didn't get a green Brexit whether you wanted one or not.

Apart from that...
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16/03/2021 12:57:26 20 18
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Yet another mega-hyped article from BBC & RogeHarrorbin ( BA in English ??) the non-science so called science & environmental analysist.

3 months is not long, plus we have a pandemic to worry about.

Climate Change is a problem, but not the **threat** that BBC, Zealots & XR make it out to be.

Even the IPCC with CIMP6 is still forecasting less than 1m sealevel rise being the most probable outcome
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16/03/2021 15:12:59 7 9
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The BBC is run by the Tory's, go figure.
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16/03/2021 16:24:36 1 0
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A rise of 1m in the sea level will wipe out most of East Anglia, the Fenland and Lincolnshire - the areas producing a large percentage of our food. Nothing to worry about there then!!
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17/03/2021 01:26:37 1 0
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And thats good? That means some places will be inundated at high tides for example
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16/03/2021 12:50:56 3 6
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the outcome for the tories was a 180 seat majority and boris johnson made prime minister,thats what brexit was all about it wasnt the benefits of leaving that have came around it was the deal that the tories say is a great deal and will protect our farmers and fishermen,it wont do that only being a member would help these people and non members dont get any benefits unless it suits europe/
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16/03/2021 12:57:30 10 6
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Being a member of the EU would not help our vaccine-manufacturing pharmaceutical companies, nor any of our citizens who benefit from our vaccination programme.
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16/03/2021 13:19:28 2 0
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Why? Our vaccine companies developed and produced all of those vaccine doses while still in the EU, probably with the help of an international team of scientists. We are now less attractive for scientists to work here, so our pool of talent may diminish due to Brexit. Several EU staff have already left my dept in the university where I work and not been replaced due to cuts.
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16/03/2021 12:47:20 51 22
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Did any of the promised brexit 'work out?'
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16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
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Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
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16/03/2021 13:16:23 39 3
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Oh Alison where do we start with this. The vaccine procurement and NHS rollout has been a huge success but we wouldn't have had to participate in a joint EU procurement programme, see Hungary and Sputnik as an example.

This is going to come as a shock but the Daily Mail sometimes gets things a bit wrong with their propaganda.........
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16/03/2021 13:18:22 27 4
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How is our vaccination programme a 'brexit success'? Please explain why you think it is.

As for your second comment, my sister lives in the ROI and had her vaccine - AstraZeneca btw - over three weeks ago.
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16/03/2021 13:23:38 37 3
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Our vaccine procurement happened under EU emergency rules. The other EU members could have done the same but probably chose not to as a mark of solidarity and unified voice, not because EU rules compelled them. One could argue their poor choice was due to Brexit, but it was not due to EU rules. Our vaccine roll out is a UK biotech and NHS success, not a Brexit success.
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16/03/2021 13:26:14 32 3
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The vaccination programme would have happened anyway, Nothing to do with Brexit.
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16/03/2021 14:15:02 26 3
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No. UK could have done the same in the EU.
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16/03/2021 16:10:52 13 2
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Never saw Covid Vaccines written on that red bus? But there was something about £350 million per week for the NHS. Nurses still didn't get a pay rise. But we are buying more nukes. Feel safer now?
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Can anyone clearly state what the UK has been able to do following Brexit which it could not have done if we were still in the EU? As far as I'm aware the answer is nothing we've done is prohibited - so Brexit is irrelevant to the vaccine issue.

I am happy to credit the Gov't and criticise the EU central approach.

But a few facts on the vaccine/Brexit relationship would improve the debate.
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16/03/2021 19:45:58 3 1
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AZ will be sued by the EU. Then the shabby truth will come out and the UK won't look so good.
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17/03/2021 07:39:13 4 0
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nothing to do with brexit.
We were still in brino when the vaccine was approved.
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17/03/2021 11:39:16 0 0
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That’s not a brexit success. It’s a success of the pan European AZ, and the NHS.
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16/03/2021 12:59:39 2 3
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Too early to tell what effect brexit will have. I've decided there are so many people who think the world owes them something for nothing we are all done for anyway. Will social disorder (war/insurrection/revolution/terrorism etc) redress population inbalance to sustainable levels or will global ecosystem collapse cause the social effect 1st? Brexit as such will make no difference.
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16/03/2021 13:11:57 4 2
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"Brexit as such will make no difference"

you say that but in the 1st 3 months we already see the growing conflict with the EU. USA's America 1st policies created trade wars and conflict and so will our increasing UK 1st policy. It is happening the world over. The world needs more international cooperation not competition. Brexit is a backwards step for us, Europe and the world.
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16/03/2021 12:51:25 17 12
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Not 3 months since Brexit and Harrabin is already complaining.
In years to come will we see offshore wind farms as environmentally damaging? How do birds and fish adapt to them?
How many heavily polluted Chinese goods does Harrabin use? Phones, laptops, batteries even bicycle? What locally sourced goods, rather than cheaper imported, with higherCO2 footprint?
Greens: do as we say not as we do.
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16/03/2021 12:59:41 17 7
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Bit like Justin Rowlands flying to the Antarctic research base to do a small article. He could have asked one of the 100+ people down there to seen a photo & do a couple of Zoom interviews. But no the BBC so called environmentalist are blind to their own actions.
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16/03/2021 13:34:44 1 1
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agreed ........ or just ask the hundreds of experts on here !
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Do you really want to rejoin that fiasco that is the EU??
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16/03/2021 13:00:11 18 10
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Why is it a fiasco? Don't tell me, is it something to do with safety concerns over the vaccine which the UK hasn't exported?
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16/03/2021 13:00:14 42 26
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Transition period only ended in January - possibly a little early to make any firm conclusions about long term environmental impact (unless of course you've made your mind up in advance based on other political considerations & prejudices)
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16/03/2021 13:27:32 34 15
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Not at all, thought the fishermen were a good guage of what we can expect. Methinks your narrative is greatly prejudiced by the b*******t we've been fed..............?
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16/03/2021 16:28:48 7 3
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Well before the end of the transition period Spaffer and Co refused to write in the current standards as a minimum threshold - they had promised not to dilute standards.

The only reason not to enshrine these standards in law was so that they could lower them when they thought the gullibles had forgotten the promises.
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16/03/2021 17:10:14 2 3
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But the policy was decoded years ago, wasn't it? Green Brexit? Coal mines, more tanks, atomic weapons, HS2, more cars proposed. Nothing to do with the transition period is it.
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16/03/2021 19:44:51 3 2
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The referendum was nearly five years ago.
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16/03/2021 13:00:33 8 6
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When Tories talk about a smaller state it sounds great less interference with your day to day lives - what they really mean is a power vacuum that gets filled up by the wealthy, deregulation take take take.

we will have a green brexit means we will keep you out of off our land.
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16/03/2021 13:23:25 2 3
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There smaller state is just that, England, minus the other three, when they go there own way..............?
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16/03/2021 13:01:11 10 4
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Our match fit oven ready nuclear weapons have the lowest carbon footprint of any country and are world beating....says Boris
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16/03/2021 13:02:34 54 28
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3 months isn't long enough to determine any effect of brexit
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16/03/2021 13:04:47 46 21
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Mogg said it would take 50 years. Not sure what your point is.
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16/03/2021 15:18:43 11 3
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So, according to you, how long will it take to see if Britain has regained anything resembling sovereignty?

And please, do not come up with hypocritical doublespeak in which sovereignty means one thing in relation to the EU and something completely different in relation to everyone else, like Japan or the WTO or the USA or NATO or the Geneva Convention. Same meaning for everyone.
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16/03/2021 17:02:37 3 3
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We are talking about policy, policy that was apparently decuded years ago, so why hasn't it been delivered?
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16/03/2021 17:16:41 5 3
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"what we have seen so far suggests a legacy of weakening many of the policies, regulations and legislation.”"
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SJ
16/03/2021 19:43:51 3 2
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Four and a half years of planning, but no post Brexit environment plan.
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16/03/2021 23:03:13 2 0
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And what is your estimate then? How long will it take to se effects of BREXIT? A year? Five years? Lifetime?
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17/03/2021 00:52:53 2 1
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The effects have been visible for almoat 5 years.
The last 3 monthe bave tended to confirm Project Reality.
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16/03/2021 12:56:44 5 5
bbc
However Bojo isn't a full time and lifelong environmental protestor, practice what you preach. Equally ironic as Emma Thompson & friends jetting thousands of miles pumping out CO2 to protest about CO2.
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16/03/2021 13:02:53 10 3
bbc
"practise".

Bojo jetted off to Afghanistan as Foreign Secretary to avoid voting against the Heathrow runway expansion - the one where he was going to lie in front of the bulldozers.
44
16/03/2021 13:02:34 54 28
bbc
3 months isn't long enough to determine any effect of brexit
46
16/03/2021 13:04:47 46 21
bbc
Mogg said it would take 50 years. Not sure what your point is.
51
16/03/2021 13:09:07 8 22
bbc
yet again another complete misrepresentation of the original quote ... you must belong to the European school of misdirection and falsehoods
60
16/03/2021 13:12:25 18 2
bbc
It'll still be the 19th century for the parallel world the haunted pencil lives in then.........
457
17/03/2021 08:56:53 1 0
bbc
I wouldn't believe anything Jacob Real Smug said. If he told me it was raining I'd check for myself.
A thoroughly contemptible individual.
47
16/03/2021 13:04:50 8 6
bbc
Well who would have guessed that Gove and co would be economical with the truth.
48
16/03/2021 13:07:33 13 11
bbc
No really! Got other more immediate threats on their minds perhaps. Besides, environmental groups, by their nature, are bias and do not take the whole picture into account. Governments have to.
74
Pip
16/03/2021 13:19:48 2 5
bbc
I'm surprised this bunch of 'Cronyists' can even spell environmental, let alone know what it means...........?
82
16/03/2021 13:22:46 2 3
bbc
Taxpayers subsidise most of these green ambulance chasers who are wholly infiltrated by frustrated Marxists who want to destroy modern capitalism.
205
16/03/2021 15:52:03 2 0
bbc
So....concern about maintaining the planetary systems our civilisation depends on is 'not taking the whole picture into account'? Just how big a 'whole picture' are you thinking about?
Getting-re-elected-in-5-years-type of 'whole picture'?
404
17/03/2021 01:22:24 1 0
bbc
But you assume the gov is not biased? You are sadly deluded. I believe the PM made a comment the other day along the lines of "The Tory party wont stand for it" that is also bias
28
16/03/2021 12:52:34 9 8
bbc
You believe the 'promises' of the likes of Corbyn?!
49
16/03/2021 13:08:05 5 9
bbc
Yes I believed the promise that he would destroy the economy because the gains the human race have made due to capitalism are totally ignored by the likes of Corbyn. To paraphrase Winston Churchill "Capitalism is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

Most, not all, of the the XR & eco-zealots arguments are leftwing under the thin veneer or "environmentalism"
109
16/03/2021 13:34:40 10 2
bbc
Churchill said democracy is the worst form of government etc. He would be appalled at the lies and deceit perpetrated by this Tory Government.
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16/03/2021 14:21:12 2 2
bbc
???????????????

Democracy, not capitalism.
50
16/03/2021 13:08:19 6 5
bbc
So in 2017, then Environment Sec Michael Gove promised: “Leaving the EU gives a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reform agriculture & fisheries." Adding it would allow the UK to reshape the way it cares for its land, its rivers & its seas. “In short,” Mr Gove pledged, “it means a Green Brexit.”

Sorry, but did anyone truly believe Gove? He's 2nd only to Boris when it comes to barefaced lying!??
46
16/03/2021 13:04:47 46 21
bbc
Mogg said it would take 50 years. Not sure what your point is.
51
16/03/2021 13:09:07 8 22
bbc
yet again another complete misrepresentation of the original quote ... you must belong to the European school of misdirection and falsehoods
157
16/03/2021 14:28:11 2 5
bbc
That bee is firmly lodged in there somewhere. Most people on these HYS now just humour poor old Strawhat.
52
16/03/2021 13:09:18 9 5
bbc
The Tories talk a good game on being Green but little to ever back it up.

Cameron said this was going to be the Greenest ever government then pulled the funding for Carbon Capture and Storage after lots of money had been spent in 2015.

It's back again now but lots of the experts in the field have moved on and knowledge lost, oh well, only money innit.......
57
16/03/2021 13:11:31 13 5
bbc
The Tories promise the moon on a stick, sadly the reality is, they can't even deliver the stick!

Most usless Govt ever!??
69
16/03/2021 13:16:36 1 1
bbc
Still believe carbon capture is a lie and con. Pumping it underground is not real capture or storage. If they can convert the captured carbon into diamonds and bury them, I will accept it is truth and real. Anything less is a con game to carry on as usual by vested fossil fuel operators.
53
16/03/2021 13:09:32 6 5
bbc
it was never going to happen, what ever Bo Jo said at the time, it was all hollow promises. You will not get real green policies, ones that actually work unless you have a green party in Government.
55
16/03/2021 13:11:09 4 4
bbc
Great idea ... if only their one MP could be contacted as she seems to be on a flight to the USA again.
62
16/03/2021 13:12:53 2 1
bbc
True, the Tories just lie & enough of the electorate buy it! ??
15
16/03/2021 12:43:53 16 9
bbc
If the 'greens' weren't all barking mad, e.g. calling for all men to be curfewed after 6PM, and were genuinely interested in environmental issues, e.g. slowing population increase and immigration to the UK, rather than encouraging it, then I'd vote for them.

Weird, isn't it? 'Green' in name only, politically raving loonies.
54
16/03/2021 13:10:12 5 3
bbc
The thin veneer of their environmental arguments quickly show that its a extreme left wing dogma that they peddle.

We are 3 months into Brexit & because they havent collapsed Capitalism & the West they are complaining????
53
16/03/2021 13:09:32 6 5
bbc
it was never going to happen, what ever Bo Jo said at the time, it was all hollow promises. You will not get real green policies, ones that actually work unless you have a green party in Government.
55
16/03/2021 13:11:09 4 4
bbc
Great idea ... if only their one MP could be contacted as she seems to be on a flight to the USA again.
56
16/03/2021 13:11:10 7 8
bbc
Of course it did not and will not.

Government is already passing laws to enable ‘Frankenstein' gene edited plants and animals loose into ore environment. This is their ides of environment, how to pollute it and get rich in the bits their mates can't sell off at development prices and become millionaires overnight for doing not a thing. Taxes are spent on keeping house prices high so £ gushes up.
52
16/03/2021 13:09:18 9 5
bbc
The Tories talk a good game on being Green but little to ever back it up.

Cameron said this was going to be the Greenest ever government then pulled the funding for Carbon Capture and Storage after lots of money had been spent in 2015.

It's back again now but lots of the experts in the field have moved on and knowledge lost, oh well, only money innit.......
57
16/03/2021 13:11:31 13 5
bbc
The Tories promise the moon on a stick, sadly the reality is, they can't even deliver the stick!

Most usless Govt ever!??
58
16/03/2021 13:11:47 6 7
bbc
I suppose the fact that we still live in houses not caves, have food to eat, still have the ability to drive cars if not the freedom means in the eyes of these groups it has been a failure.
38
16/03/2021 12:59:39 2 3
bbc
Too early to tell what effect brexit will have. I've decided there are so many people who think the world owes them something for nothing we are all done for anyway. Will social disorder (war/insurrection/revolution/terrorism etc) redress population inbalance to sustainable levels or will global ecosystem collapse cause the social effect 1st? Brexit as such will make no difference.
59
16/03/2021 13:11:57 4 2
bbc
"Brexit as such will make no difference"

you say that but in the 1st 3 months we already see the growing conflict with the EU. USA's America 1st policies created trade wars and conflict and so will our increasing UK 1st policy. It is happening the world over. The world needs more international cooperation not competition. Brexit is a backwards step for us, Europe and the world.
46
16/03/2021 13:04:47 46 21
bbc
Mogg said it would take 50 years. Not sure what your point is.
60
16/03/2021 13:12:25 18 2
bbc
It'll still be the 19th century for the parallel world the haunted pencil lives in then.........
61
16/03/2021 13:12:41 48 12
bbc
Do some people still actually believe what Politicians say? Especially one as slimy as Gove!
64
16/03/2021 13:13:48 38 10
bbc
Sadly it seems that many people are still that gullible!??
106
16/03/2021 13:33:32 10 3
bbc
52% believed the nonsense politicians say - thats why we are in this mess !
53
16/03/2021 13:09:32 6 5
bbc
it was never going to happen, what ever Bo Jo said at the time, it was all hollow promises. You will not get real green policies, ones that actually work unless you have a green party in Government.
62
16/03/2021 13:12:53 2 1
bbc
True, the Tories just lie & enough of the electorate buy it! ??
63
16/03/2021 13:00:59 9 12
bbc
Nothing like being impatient is there!

Brexit has literally only just happened in political terms... and I don't know if these folks have noticed but there's a bit of another crisis that's drawing attention at the moment.

The more wailing and sobbing these environmentalist types do, the more they just turn themselves off to regular people.
70
16/03/2021 13:17:39 6 3
bbc
Very poor deflection from the Govt today! Doesn't feel as if their hearts are really in it!??
79
16/03/2021 13:21:38 4 1
bbc
lol, the excuses you Brexiters give are as useless as you arguments for Brexit.
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16/03/2021 13:27:06 0 2
bbc
Don’t forget the EU’s toy throwing regarding AZ. If we were a member of that ‘club’ it would have been different. No doubt ordered to share and then wait our turn.
I suggest you show such zeal in ensuring the welfare of your citizens EU instead.
61
16/03/2021 13:12:41 48 12
bbc
Do some people still actually believe what Politicians say? Especially one as slimy as Gove!
64
16/03/2021 13:13:48 38 10
bbc
Sadly it seems that many people are still that gullible!??
100
16/03/2021 13:28:33 4 1
bbc
For many, dislike of furriners overcomes their distrust of unpleasant politicians
399
17/03/2021 00:54:35 2 0
bbc
getting to be less than 43% now though
65
16/03/2021 13:14:56 18 5
bbc
Well CAP has gone so that is a good thing.
284
16/03/2021 17:57:53 5 1
bbc
Depends what happens next.

They seem to intend to continue paying farmers who stop farming, remove "greening" rules on crop diversity & permanent grassland (but keep paying for them) & end penalties for rule breaches or over-claiming. The new plan includes a list of 20 different schemes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-farming-changes-to-farming-in-england
37
16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
bbc
Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
66
16/03/2021 13:16:23 39 3
bbc
Oh Alison where do we start with this. The vaccine procurement and NHS rollout has been a huge success but we wouldn't have had to participate in a joint EU procurement programme, see Hungary and Sputnik as an example.

This is going to come as a shock but the Daily Mail sometimes gets things a bit wrong with their propaganda.........
154
16/03/2021 14:25:18 7 18
bbc
Signatories to the EU vaccine procurement program only went solo after the EU wasted months dabbling in supply chains they didn't understand. The EU then just cut them all loose to fend for themselves and rounded on our success as a deflection, they are still doing it. Expect the EU and member countries to reverse the AZ halt any time it suits their agenda. German public are already grumbling.
67
16/03/2021 13:16:26 17 9
bbc
The picture at the top involves some pigs and a trough, where have we seen this before. That one at the front is after a government contract, you can see it in his eyes.
257
16/03/2021 17:21:31 6 6
bbc
The biggest troughs of all are in Strasbourg and Brussels. They are not accountable to anyone, not only the snouts in there, but both front trotters too.
26
16/03/2021 12:51:25 17 12
bbc
Not 3 months since Brexit and Harrabin is already complaining.
In years to come will we see offshore wind farms as environmentally damaging? How do birds and fish adapt to them?
How many heavily polluted Chinese goods does Harrabin use? Phones, laptops, batteries even bicycle? What locally sourced goods, rather than cheaper imported, with higherCO2 footprint?
Greens: do as we say not as we do.
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16/03/2021 13:16:33 3 2
bbc
"What locally sourced goods, rather than cheaper imported, with higherCO2 footprint?"

How do you know it has a higher CO2 footprint just because it is local? It depends on the energy mix and the mode of transport of every component in the supply chain.
403
17/03/2021 01:11:06 0 0
bbc
I believe Winston was referring to chinese imports having a higher carbon footprint not local goods
52
16/03/2021 13:09:18 9 5
bbc
The Tories talk a good game on being Green but little to ever back it up.

Cameron said this was going to be the Greenest ever government then pulled the funding for Carbon Capture and Storage after lots of money had been spent in 2015.

It's back again now but lots of the experts in the field have moved on and knowledge lost, oh well, only money innit.......
69
16/03/2021 13:16:36 1 1
bbc
Still believe carbon capture is a lie and con. Pumping it underground is not real capture or storage. If they can convert the captured carbon into diamonds and bury them, I will accept it is truth and real. Anything less is a con game to carry on as usual by vested fossil fuel operators.
76
16/03/2021 13:20:30 2 1
bbc
Well it is capture and provided it stays there it is storage but apart from that yeah. It's been proven to be technically viable just about the economics now
63
16/03/2021 13:00:59 9 12
bbc
Nothing like being impatient is there!

Brexit has literally only just happened in political terms... and I don't know if these folks have noticed but there's a bit of another crisis that's drawing attention at the moment.

The more wailing and sobbing these environmentalist types do, the more they just turn themselves off to regular people.
70
16/03/2021 13:17:39 6 3
bbc
Very poor deflection from the Govt today! Doesn't feel as if their hearts are really in it!??
9
16/03/2021 12:33:29 30 10
bbc
"fewer"

How many does Bojo have?
71
16/03/2021 13:17:48 7 2
bbc
And Mogg, feckless the pair of them..........
37
16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
bbc
Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
72
16/03/2021 13:18:22 27 4
bbc
How is our vaccination programme a 'brexit success'? Please explain why you think it is.

As for your second comment, my sister lives in the ROI and had her vaccine - AstraZeneca btw - over three weeks ago.
36
16/03/2021 12:57:30 10 6
bbc
Being a member of the EU would not help our vaccine-manufacturing pharmaceutical companies, nor any of our citizens who benefit from our vaccination programme.
73
16/03/2021 13:19:28 2 0
bbc
Why? Our vaccine companies developed and produced all of those vaccine doses while still in the EU, probably with the help of an international team of scientists. We are now less attractive for scientists to work here, so our pool of talent may diminish due to Brexit. Several EU staff have already left my dept in the university where I work and not been replaced due to cuts.
113
16/03/2021 13:35:04 0 1
bbc
Cuts will affect everybody. That’s not due to leaving the EU but the pandemic we are still hoping to emerge from.
48
16/03/2021 13:07:33 13 11
bbc
No really! Got other more immediate threats on their minds perhaps. Besides, environmental groups, by their nature, are bias and do not take the whole picture into account. Governments have to.
74
Pip
16/03/2021 13:19:48 2 5
bbc
I'm surprised this bunch of 'Cronyists' can even spell environmental, let alone know what it means...........?
75
16/03/2021 13:20:22 0 3
bbc
No but it appears every other self-marginalised Brexit has.
69
16/03/2021 13:16:36 1 1
bbc
Still believe carbon capture is a lie and con. Pumping it underground is not real capture or storage. If they can convert the captured carbon into diamonds and bury them, I will accept it is truth and real. Anything less is a con game to carry on as usual by vested fossil fuel operators.
76
16/03/2021 13:20:30 2 1
bbc
Well it is capture and provided it stays there it is storage but apart from that yeah. It's been proven to be technically viable just about the economics now
197
16/03/2021 15:42:53 1 1
bbc
It is like saying we stored the carbon in a paper bag. Any fool can say it is stored. Then oh whoops it leaked out a century later. So not taken out of the circle. Con men money before principles.
77
16/03/2021 13:21:22 3 3
bbc
Well of course the Green Brexit didn't happen, why do you think you left the EU?
78
16/03/2021 13:21:26 1 2
bbc
Summed up quite easily more bull and bluster.
63
16/03/2021 13:00:59 9 12
bbc
Nothing like being impatient is there!

Brexit has literally only just happened in political terms... and I don't know if these folks have noticed but there's a bit of another crisis that's drawing attention at the moment.

The more wailing and sobbing these environmentalist types do, the more they just turn themselves off to regular people.
79
16/03/2021 13:21:38 4 1
bbc
lol, the excuses you Brexiters give are as useless as you arguments for Brexit.
80
16/03/2021 13:21:58 4 4
bbc
We don't have a green Brexit but we do have green behind the ears Brexiteers.
31
16/03/2021 12:55:09 28 53
bbc
Do you really want to rejoin that fiasco that is the EU??
81
16/03/2021 13:22:17 25 7
bbc
Yes please. ASAP
48
16/03/2021 13:07:33 13 11
bbc
No really! Got other more immediate threats on their minds perhaps. Besides, environmental groups, by their nature, are bias and do not take the whole picture into account. Governments have to.
82
16/03/2021 13:22:46 2 3
bbc
Taxpayers subsidise most of these green ambulance chasers who are wholly infiltrated by frustrated Marxists who want to destroy modern capitalism.
119
16/03/2021 13:41:45 1 1
bbc
When their last bastion of hope through Corbyn crumbled they scattered off to infiltrate every fringe movement against Gov.
83
16/03/2021 13:22:47 9 4
bbc
Anyone who ever thought a hard right-wing Berxit prompted by a desire for the powerful to manage our society without constraint would have any positive green effect must be even more stupid than the average Berxit voter
42
16/03/2021 13:00:33 8 6
bbc
When Tories talk about a smaller state it sounds great less interference with your day to day lives - what they really mean is a power vacuum that gets filled up by the wealthy, deregulation take take take.

we will have a green brexit means we will keep you out of off our land.
84
Pip
16/03/2021 13:23:25 2 3
bbc
There smaller state is just that, England, minus the other three, when they go there own way..............?
37
16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
bbc
Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
85
16/03/2021 13:23:38 37 3
bbc
Our vaccine procurement happened under EU emergency rules. The other EU members could have done the same but probably chose not to as a mark of solidarity and unified voice, not because EU rules compelled them. One could argue their poor choice was due to Brexit, but it was not due to EU rules. Our vaccine roll out is a UK biotech and NHS success, not a Brexit success.
155
16/03/2021 14:26:45 3 25
bbc
If we were still in the EU do you think we would have independent control over manufacture and supply chain? No EU country currently does.
86
16/03/2021 13:23:41 2 7
bbc
What was so enviromental about sending diesel boats out to trawl fish to kill and throw back over quota back into the sea
Build vast new concrete and steel buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg
Have trucks move unhindered 1000s of miles with food.
Now all the fish can be landed and farmers can grow more quality food for an eager, grateful and local clientele
92
16/03/2021 13:27:13 4 2
bbc
You mean all that fish that cannot be exported to the EU? Anyone thinking our share of the EU waste is anything like as bad as our domestic UK waste lives in cloud cuckoo land
98
16/03/2021 13:28:15 3 1
bbc
Translation: 'Yes we lied about Brexit, but never mind - look over there at that squirrel instead!'
372
16/03/2021 22:21:03 0 0
bbc
So will there be no quotas at all. Take as many fish as possible.
Removed
12
16/03/2021 12:39:08 105 26
bbc
No it’s was a Blue Brexit, a Brexit designed to support the Tory party
88
16/03/2021 13:24:35 37 11
bbc
Black and blue Brexit you mean.
37
16/03/2021 12:59:34 36 59
bbc
Er ... have a look at our vaccination programme. Isn't that a Brexit success? I'm glad I'm not waiting on the EU for a vaccine!
89
16/03/2021 13:26:14 32 3
bbc
The vaccination programme would have happened anyway, Nothing to do with Brexit.
90
16/03/2021 13:26:32 16 7
bbc
It comes as quite a shock to learn that the assurances given by Brexiter politicians are turning out to be - how can I say this politely - 'over-optimistic', isn't it?

A cynic might wonder if Brexit was based on a load of silly old lies with a good old bit of xenephobia thrown in for good measure.

And who could blame them?
243
16/03/2021 17:02:56 4 8
bbc
You have confused the word "cynic" with "loser".
63
16/03/2021 13:00:59 9 12
bbc
Nothing like being impatient is there!

Brexit has literally only just happened in political terms... and I don't know if these folks have noticed but there's a bit of another crisis that's drawing attention at the moment.

The more wailing and sobbing these environmentalist types do, the more they just turn themselves off to regular people.
91
16/03/2021 13:27:06 0 2
bbc
Don’t forget the EU’s toy throwing regarding AZ. If we were a member of that ‘club’ it would have been different. No doubt ordered to share and then wait our turn.
I suggest you show such zeal in ensuring the welfare of your citizens EU instead.
86
16/03/2021 13:23:41 2 7
bbc
What was so enviromental about sending diesel boats out to trawl fish to kill and throw back over quota back into the sea
Build vast new concrete and steel buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg
Have trucks move unhindered 1000s of miles with food.
Now all the fish can be landed and farmers can grow more quality food for an eager, grateful and local clientele
92
16/03/2021 13:27:13 4 2
bbc
You mean all that fish that cannot be exported to the EU? Anyone thinking our share of the EU waste is anything like as bad as our domestic UK waste lives in cloud cuckoo land
3
16/03/2021 12:23:34 66 10
bbc
Politicians promise something they were never going to deliver - shocker. This is the UK we have for the foreseeable future.
93
16/03/2021 13:06:28 23 50
bbc
What about the vaccines EU countries promise to their people but can;t deliver? All politicians make dodgy promises.
105
16/03/2021 13:31:52 11 5
bbc
Why would they deliver something that they consider unsafe? The UK hasn't exported any anyway.
138
16/03/2021 14:08:11 20 3
bbc
Who and when in the EU made promises about vaccines they couldn't deliver?

Have you just made up this scenario to have a dig at the EU (again)?
182
16/03/2021 15:23:19 7 2
bbc
Playground politics. We're doing better than them, we are better and superior.
276
16/03/2021 17:46:59 2 2
bbc
feeble - back to your pro-corrupt world.
94
16/03/2021 13:08:03 4 10
bbc
Some people will never be happy until we're all living in mud huts, sucking on moss for sustenance and weaving our own clothes... and invariably those people all choose to reside in the country's largest metropolis from whence they pontificate their pious points.

Nothing to see here.
95
16/03/2021 13:08:55 2 6
bbc
When we replace the useless and corrupt CAP system (currently under investigation for its links to organised crime) we will have a much better targeted subsidy regime, which will reward land owners for environmental projects, not just for the amount of acres they have.
108
16/03/2021 13:34:16 4 2
bbc
What? A 'revolutionary' new system that hands out free taxpayers money for nothing more than owning land and performing basic stewardship of it?!

Sounds suspiciously like the old SFP to me, but there was never really any chance of the Regime reforming that, was there?!
41
16/03/2021 13:00:14 42 26
bbc
Transition period only ended in January - possibly a little early to make any firm conclusions about long term environmental impact (unless of course you've made your mind up in advance based on other political considerations & prejudices)
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Pip
16/03/2021 13:27:32 34 15
bbc
Not at all, thought the fishermen were a good guage of what we can expect. Methinks your narrative is greatly prejudiced by the b*******t we've been fed..............?
146
16/03/2021 14:16:25 6 4
bbc
OK, so pls try to explain why you think it's *NOT* too early to make firm conclusions about the environmental impact of something that happened less than 3 months ago. And just for fun try to do it without resorting to insults or assumptions :-)

As for fishing, well if it does sound the death knell for our fishing fleet (which I doubt) then surely that's an environmental benefit?
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MVP
16/03/2021 13:28:05 4 2
bbc
It seems that a lot of ground was given by the UK government in their quest to "get Brexit done". At all costs it would seem and we are only now finding out about what they have actually done.
86
16/03/2021 13:23:41 2 7
bbc
What was so enviromental about sending diesel boats out to trawl fish to kill and throw back over quota back into the sea
Build vast new concrete and steel buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg
Have trucks move unhindered 1000s of miles with food.
Now all the fish can be landed and farmers can grow more quality food for an eager, grateful and local clientele
98
16/03/2021 13:28:15 3 1
bbc
Translation: 'Yes we lied about Brexit, but never mind - look over there at that squirrel instead!'
99
16/03/2021 13:28:25 7 4
bbc
how is increasing our nuclear warheads green? u no longer need these to destroy the world; just carry on polluting and chopping trees down! . What a waste of money. Idiot government this is! So much for turning the UK into a green power house economy. Boris is nothing but an out and out liar and they are playing with all our futures.
123
16/03/2021 13:47:02 3 1
bbc
Indeed.

Non-proliferation now looking an even more distant hope.

Just another pathetic example of the Regimes imperial 'great power' wet dream.

They also honestly believe the Asian Nations will roll-out the red carpet and re-open the colonial clubs!
64
16/03/2021 13:13:48 38 10
bbc
Sadly it seems that many people are still that gullible!??
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For many, dislike of furriners overcomes their distrust of unpleasant politicians