Covid: UK vaccination surge expected in coming days
15/03/2021 | news | health | 3,382
All over 50s could be vaccinated ahead of schedule, thanks to good supplies, say experts.
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Baffled by the EU countries stopping vaccinations. A small number compared with the number who are going to die as a consequence.

This is starting to look political.
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15/03/2021 17:01:52 184 1190
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EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. Yes, you're right, your post is indeed looking political.
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15/03/2021 17:14:35 52 154
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
Maybe they've just watch 'I Am Legend'.

Handcock watched 'Contagion' and said he learnt something after all.
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15/03/2021 17:26:30 66 4
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40-odd cases of blood clots in 17 million vaccinated? It's ridiculous that countries are putting their citizens at risk of Covid when the odds are so infinitesimally low.
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15/03/2021 17:26:43 60 7
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More embarrassment of their incompetent vaccine roll-out?
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15/03/2021 17:27:12 7 70
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Because the AZ producers are so slow in completing the contractually agreed supply for the EU, it’s not that much of a difference. Look at world supplies; globally the Pfizer jab is more numerous than AZ & they’re using that until they get assurance about the AZ one. ??
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15/03/2021 17:29:11 60 5
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I agree, but honestly struggle to care what they do at this point. Our Vaccine rollout has been a huge success, if they want to be petty and self defeating that is their prerogative. Having said that, it is ultimately peoples lives they are politicising.
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15/03/2021 17:29:38 10 65
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this is genuinely hilarious. you think mark rutte, angela merkel, emmanuel macron and mario draghi woke up this morning and were like.... LOL lets really grind those Brits gears and suspend use of the vaccine? your point doesn't even begin to make sense
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15/03/2021 17:33:32 24 11
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Oh dear... The usual lot who believe that everything is a football match...

And they're full of anti-European hysteria...

And they never read the article, or they'd had read that the responsible EU agency actually advises the SOVEREIGN members that it is safe.

As for myself, I trust AZ and I'm looking forward to having it. Not because it's "our own" but because the evidence says so.
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15/03/2021 17:35:54 18 26
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THE E.U. IS STOPPING NOTHING. IT IS INDIVIDUAL MEMBER STATES IN THE EU AND A COUPLE OUTSIDE WHO ARE PAUSING THE VACCINE. IS THIS TOO COMPLICATED??
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15/03/2021 17:38:24 25 6
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Starting to look . Its been like this from the beginning . Thank god we left or we would be waiting years for our vaccines
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15/03/2021 17:39:02 10 1
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everything is political
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15/03/2021 17:40:48 21 3
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Agreed. They should be able to say fairly clearly whether the number of blood clots from the recently vaccinated exceeds the level normally expected in the people vaccinated (I'm assuming data on blood clots is granular enough). If it does, they should be able to say with what confidence level is is deemed to be higher. The lack of this is what points to politics (or poor controls).
2%. that's 2% of those who take the vax have had serious side effects according to yellow card and VAERS. 0.054% get serious problems from the virus. Do you see the problem here? Removed
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15/03/2021 17:53:51 9 19
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Some countries that happen to be in the EU have temporarily suspended using the AZ vaccine. The EU hasn't. You leavers seem obsessed with dreaming up anything to bash the EU. Desist please.
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15/03/2021 17:55:58 1 3
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No ship Sherlock
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15/03/2021 18:01:15 15 1
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There must be data comparing blood clots in Pfizer and AZ vaccinations. All I can find suggests that they are more or less the same and at an expected level. Why are these countries not suspending the Pfizer vaccine as well as the AZ?
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15/03/2021 18:05:10 10 1
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Each EU country is a sovereign state. The EU & WHO can only give advice regarding health maters. Presently both the EU & WHO are recommending to continue the vaccine use.
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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15/03/2021 17:00:53 14 10
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Don't hold your breath...
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15/03/2021 17:01:57 20 4
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When everyone is vaccinated....
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15/03/2021 17:02:38 11 5
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I think grow up is the immediate response!!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:03:59 14 3
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I hope we don’t, there is no medical or scientific reason to do so. These countries are ignoring both the WHO and their own medical regulator, the EMA, on this issue.

Not sure what the point in the EMA is really, seems countries will just ignore them regardless of their findings.
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15/03/2021 17:05:33 14 3
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The UK won't halt them as there is no reason to.
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15/03/2021 17:02:21 13 4
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Not going to happen. - Dr Michael Head, Senior Research Fellow: "The data we have suggests that numbers of adverse events related to blood clots are the same (and possibly, in fact lower) in vaccinated groups compared to unvaccinated populations,"

European lunacy. God help them.
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Boris is still shaking hands....
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Not gonna happen...
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15/03/2021 17:00:25 620 35
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While the rest of Europe tries to find a reason to explain their terrible vaccination strategy by halting AZ vaccinations, and now having that as an excuse. We continue to roll on. When you destroy the public confidence in a vaccination to win political points then don't be surprised if no one wants it. I have no doubts that if there is an issue the proper regulatory bodies would step in.
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15/03/2021 17:06:04 93 418
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You really think they would screw over themselves just to score political points?
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15/03/2021 18:28:11 1 7
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Aye right, Who would step in? Bill and Belinda ? Wear 3 masks Tony fauchi? boris and nicolas governments? Remember just a 2 week lockdown and we can all live happily ever after. That was 52 weeks ago. You are living in the new normal. it will change eventually, much worse to come.. Dont Know why I even read the propaganda comments the beeb computer puts on here.. Please ban me. Please
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15/03/2021 18:12:02 1 8
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You shouldn't judge others by your own appalling standards. Just because you are bitter and vindictive, you shouldn't assume that others are too. The EU is not a person.
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15/03/2021 17:00:25 780 76
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:07:45 691 54
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Got my invite this morning, happy days!

Quite some achievement to have vaccinated so many people in such a short space of time. I hear nothing but positive reports about how it's all being rolled out, without fuss or incident.

Well done to all concerned, and the UK government.
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15/03/2021 17:08:31 29 22
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The Brexit nut-jobs are out in force today. The UK vaccine rollout is proving a tremendous success... but this article is about the UK. There are plenty of articles on the EU elsewhere.
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15/03/2021 17:09:36 22 16
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Macron says: "We are therefore suspending its use until tomorrow [Tuesday] afternoon." Not sure that constitutes a ban?
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15/03/2021 17:12:06 107 10
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Bizarrely they are blocking exports of a vaccine they now won’t use themselves. Yes they accuse the UK of vaccine nationalism ?

They really do just keep digging it seems.
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15/03/2021 17:14:24 22 45
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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15/03/2021 17:28:42 16 2
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Bang on
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15/03/2021 17:36:19 40 2
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They’ve already done so in Germany where Merkel has been battered in polls. Karma!
15/03/2021 19:11:34 1 0
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Don't worry, we already have.
15/03/2021 20:10:01 2 4
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Sure!!! This is why Indonesia, Thailand and the Democratic Republic of Congo have stopped using it.

Because the three of them are in the EU... and we hate the EU.. therefore it's all the EU's fault.

And if they're not in the EU they are vassal states of the EU because I say so....
15/03/2021 20:26:16 2 0
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They will see through it, The empirical evidence coming out of the UK is so overwhelmingly positive. Sad their leaders can’t see it.
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15/03/2021 20:39:13 2 5
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Posting lies, must be a brexiter.

The EU is not banning the vaccine. The EU says it's best to keep on using it.

Some governments are halting use, they are not he EU.
15/03/2021 20:48:33 1 0
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They have stock, only used just over 50% of what they have,
16/03/2021 01:54:49 0 3
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Check your facts.
EU haven't banned the AZ vaccine.
In fact it recommended continuing its use.
12 countries (not all in Europe) have recommended temporary halt pending investigation by their national health authorities.
Sovereignty in play.
If you can't find factual evidence to attack the EU with, it's better to say nothing.
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15/03/2021 17:00:41 261 23
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Good news, now the EU don’t seem to want the Oxford vaccine perhaps we can get the whole country done by end of May.

Let’s hope our government don’t have a knee jerk reacontion like some others.
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15/03/2021 19:21:35 19 2
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Get the get the whole county vaccinated a.s.a.p.

Then give it to poorer commonwealth counties, not the EU.
15/03/2021 20:53:24 0 2
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Try going on holiday...
15/03/2021 23:44:06 1 0
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It’s not good news! How can it possibly be good news for us! If the eu are not vaccinated then more mutations could be created which will impact us. Unless you want to live in isolation for a few more years with no foreign travel.
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15/03/2021 17:00:43 14 19
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Excellent news and just to confirm nothing here to do with being outside of the EU although the Cultists I'm sure will try and say otherwise........
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15/03/2021 17:08:28 7 5
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Wrong. We would have had to be part of the EU vaccine scheme, which has been a disaster
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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15/03/2021 17:00:53 14 10
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Don't hold your breath...
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15/03/2021 17:00:53 348 17
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Great news.

I'm in the 40s to 50s group and keen to get my first shot asap.
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15/03/2021 17:06:51 55 363
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I'm genuinely curious, do you think you are at significant risk from covid?
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15/03/2021 17:07:44 52 5
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I'm in my 50s & have got an appointment for Thursday. I'm sure you won't have to wait long.
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15/03/2021 17:09:09 58 5
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Yes, while the EU grind their program to a complete holt we should accelerate ours, let’s get all adults done by the end of May, should be more doses available now, no point in AZ shipping more to the EU to sit on shelves going to waste.
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15/03/2021 17:04:22 5 22
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????
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15/03/2021 17:44:23 8 3
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Good for you. Won't be long now.
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15/03/2021 17:54:01 3 3
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Just go on the NHS website and put in your NHS number and DOB ...lots of people are not turning up so they may have slots ...you have nothing to lose . Or just turn up at one of the big London hospitals at the end of the day.
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15/03/2021 18:22:56 7 2
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58 years old. I had Covid last August (positive test, not self-diagnosed), lost my sense of smell for ten days and felt tired, though not terribly so, for a week. Had my first jab last Thursday: arm painful for 36 hours and felt rough Thursday night into Friday. Probably a bit of a worse experience overall with the jab than the virus but neither bad.
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15/03/2021 16:58:54 1171 109
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Baffled by the EU countries stopping vaccinations. A small number compared with the number who are going to die as a consequence.

This is starting to look political.
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15/03/2021 17:01:52 184 1190
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EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. Yes, you're right, your post is indeed looking political.
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15/03/2021 17:03:10 126 15
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Erm...they're in the EU.
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15/03/2021 17:09:14 150 26
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Seeing your comments, in the past, we all know which side you're on!!
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EU countries ARE stopping vaccinations, you need to get your facts right, and it is political
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Yes , they are !
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15/03/2021 17:25:38 81 12
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Denial, not just a river in Egypt
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15/03/2021 17:27:50 73 15
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Another remoaner who can't have anything said against the Eu. They are miles behind and making crass decisions, politically motivated. Grow up.
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15/03/2021 17:28:12 47 3
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And then baffle yourself even more.....they stop exports of AZ. So we are not using them and neither is anyone else.
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15/03/2021 17:30:57 42 6
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Some of the countries which have suspended/stopped vaccinations are EU members. Hence "EU countries"
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15/03/2021 17:32:53 24 9
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Yes they are.
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15/03/2021 17:16:52 24 10
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Give up mate ,you lost.
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15/03/2021 17:37:08 20 11
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yes they are. EU seem to be doing everything to try and make the UK look bad. Funny how there have been no reports of blood clots due to vaccination in the UK
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15/03/2021 17:39:08 17 9
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Usual EU behaviour deniers here
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15/03/2021 17:55:41 11 8
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Come on Chris. I am also a strong remainer but a significant part of the AZ bashing is political. It was similar (but less deadly) politics that gave fuel to the brexiteers before we lost the vote.
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15/03/2021 18:01:42 8 6
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You need to read the news, Chris
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15/03/2021 18:12:04 8 1
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So, less people with clots in the 17m that have had the vaccine than would be expected in the normal population. So what science are they using? Do you think their actions will promote people in their countries having ANY vaccine? If not a political decision, what would you call it?

They will see more cases, more mutations and eventually more deaths for no reason.
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15/03/2021 16:59:47 8 39
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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When everyone is vaccinated....
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Why does everyone need to be vaccinated. Just the vulnerable no?
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15/03/2021 17:02:10 535 27
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It's incredible that the EU are pausing Vaccines. It's bad new for us and the world. People may be looking at the EU car crash and laughing but it will have more consequences. More infection, more death and more mutations slowing the global recovery down.
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15/03/2021 17:06:14 431 14
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It’s up to the EU if they want to stay in lockdown for another 12 months, more worried about the effect it will have on the vaccine roll out to the rest of the world. The Oxford jab is really the best for a lot of countries due to its less onerous storage requirements, it’s also much less expensive.
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15/03/2021 17:14:55 13 55
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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15/03/2021 17:50:55 7 1
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Well then thats a lot more for us .
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15/03/2021 18:10:01 33 0
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A case of the EU cutting off its nose to spite its face. But sadly it is its people's nose.
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15/03/2021 18:17:53 18 0
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But on the other hand, provided they don't hoard it and don't use it, it can be supplied to more non EU countries more quickly.
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15/03/2021 18:46:25 1 1
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Never mind that it means no European holidays.

Come on Von der Leyen sort it out!
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15/03/2021 20:40:22 1 2
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The EU is doing no such thing.

Learn about facts, stop posting lies.
16/03/2021 14:03:14 1 0
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To be on topic... the NHS has done a fantastic job!

Just think what would have happened if it had been properly funded over the last 11 years and Exercise Cygnus acted upon by the penny-pinching Tories.

They preferred to give all sorts of billion £ NHS contracts to their Tory mates instead though. PPE supply and test and trace was a disgraceful farce.
16/03/2021 18:27:58 0 0
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It will certainly impact the EU, there is also likely to be a huge knock-on effect for those wanting to travel their. Just because people in the UK are vaccinated does not mean that it will be okay to travel. EU countries cannot afford to do anything the increases their infection rate.
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15/03/2021 17:02:37 188 15
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Full steam ahead the good ship UK.
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UK, don't get your hopes up
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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I think grow up is the immediate response!!!!!
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Looking forward to having my first jab in the coming months.

Congratulations to everyone involved in the rollout.
15/03/2021 20:57:15 5 109
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Saw it was AZ walked out....
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15/03/2021 17:03:46 237 9
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I suspect the risk of death or serious illness from vaccination is statistically far lower than the risk from Covid. The EU nations suspending the use of the AZ vaccine are into their 3rd wave of infection are creating an enormous issue for themselves.
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There are about 3,000 blood clots per month in the UK without the vaccine so some of them are going to coincide with people having the vaccine, that's all that's happening here. The risk of doing nothing is far greater than the risk of being vaccinated.
15/03/2021 21:15:04 10 0
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The vaccine is 10000x less likely to hospitalise you than covid.
And we will all be exposed to covid when we open up
15/03/2021 21:53:43 8 7
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I'm a big remainer, but feel EU is letting itself down by playing politics. Still think Boris is an utter fool.
15/03/2021 22:57:10 1 3
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It's the type of clotting event and the ages of people affected that's the concern. The regulators would have done the same wherever the vaccine came from.
16/03/2021 12:28:56 0 0
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Has there been any count of blood clots with users of the Pfizer vaccine for comparison?
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15/03/2021 17:03:50 179 10
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Great news. I had my 1st vaccination this morning. Very well organised from booking to going to the vac centre. Fantastic job all round. 2nd jab booked for June 1st
Any less rusty yet? Removed
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15/03/2021 18:12:05 27 2
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This organisational triumph is the best thing to hit the UK since the Oyster card and thumbs up to all the NHS staff and volunteers keeping us all safe at the centers
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15/03/2021 18:32:59 23 3
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Well done, but watch out - the EU has cancelled the vaccine after realising that you're 100% certain to die within the next 100 years of you having the vaccine.
15/03/2021 21:34:59 11 0
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Same here, superbly organised, hardly felt the needle go in, sat for the recommended 15 minutes before driving ... and found myself humming 'The Teddy Bears' Picnic'! Problem is that it's not listed as a known side effect, should I 'yellow card' report it?
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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15/03/2021 17:03:59 14 3
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I hope we don’t, there is no medical or scientific reason to do so. These countries are ignoring both the WHO and their own medical regulator, the EMA, on this issue.

Not sure what the point in the EMA is really, seems countries will just ignore them regardless of their findings.
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Notice the subdued reporting of this issue by the BBC?

What a contrast to a year ago, when BBC reporters kept telling us how good the German system is.

Not to mention the silent treatment the BBC has given to the EU vaccination fiasco.

Or, indeed, the lack of BBC positive comment on our lucky escape from the European Medicines Agency.
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Seriously, were you actually expecting the BBC to run an anti EU story or even a pro UK one ?

You're on the wrong site.
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15/03/2021 17:09:27 13 8
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Who on earth gives a down tick on this!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:54:42 2 19
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"the lack of BBC positive comment on our lucky escape from the European Medicines Agency."

Mark, Brexit has nothing to do with this. Everything the UK has done could also have been done if we were still in the EU.

So I give credit to the Gov't re the vaccine rollout. And criticise the EU's poor handling.

But can't we agree it's irrelevant to Brexit?
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15/03/2021 18:20:37 9 0
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Thats their idea of being unbiased which they had 4 years to perfect . You would think that after the money Macron has deprived them of via EU subscriptions they would be mad.
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15/03/2021 18:32:10 16 0
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I am still waiting for the BBC to report on the EU ventilator procurement. They kicked up a huge fuss when the UK didn't join, but no mention of how long it took for the scheme to actually source any.
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UK is taking a very pragmatic approach to vaccination & not being distracted by dubious claims in relation to blood clots which are lower than would be expected in the non-vaccinated population and according to those that know there's no biological reason why the vaccine should cause them. The EU on the other hand are needlessly risking thousands of lives for what seems like political envy
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15/03/2021 17:30:15 225 18
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UK will never be free or safe from Covid19 and its mutations arriving on this island from EU and elsewhere, until the entire world has been vaccinated, or, travel to and from the UK is entirely stopped - which is never going to happen.
Thus, it is bad news for us in the UK, if the EU and the rest of the world does not rapidly accelerate its vaccination program.
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15/03/2021 17:30:44 14 5
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Its not the EU taking a risk its the medical regulators of various countries both in & outside of the EU

the EMA has said the AZ jab is safe

please get your facts right
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15/03/2021 20:45:50 5 0
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Never mind. When we have finished our vaccination roll-out and when EU have decided the AZ is OK to use, we can send them all our excess production to help them out.
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I am 50, got my NHS text on Friday saying I could book and had my jab Saturday. Didn't expect it that quick. Well done all involved.
Shame some countries are now playing politics with peoples lives.
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15/03/2021 17:14:47 34 409
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Could the real reason why there are so many more vaccines available in the UK, be that most European countries have now suspended the rollout of the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine on grounds of both safety and effectiveness?
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15/03/2021 18:46:25 7 1
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Nice to see a balanced contribution.
15/03/2021 19:22:26 0 0
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Lucky you !! Im 50 too, so hopefully my invite will be here soon too. Keep checking website to see when its says can book from age 50.
15/03/2021 20:04:03 2 1
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You are so lucky you are presumably living in England. In Wales 64 year olds are still waiting for the vaccinations for cohort 7 to start.
16/03/2021 09:39:23 0 0
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You’re lucky, my area is still only vaccinating over 65s with underlying health issues from shielding list. I’m 54 and have had no contact at all, and not expecting it anytime soon. It’s quite the lottery.
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And your comment isn't political?
16/03/2021 11:44:27 0 0
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So the EU wants to play politics and risk people's lives in Europe, just goes to prove the EU is run by a bunch of sociopaths, all they are doing is speeding up the disintegration of the EU.
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The EU is behaving inexplicably. Whatever their reasons, surely it means another three months of lost economic output. Glad they think they can afford it. Based on the election results in Germany and Macron's weak position, perhaps they should realise that they are standing in a burning building while fussing about which exit they use.
or in a boat which is leaking one end, but they are in the end above the water refusing to help bail the water out. Removed
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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Politics is transient..

The one thing we can be sure of is that the continental nations may change political allegiance internally, but they will always remain part of the EU organisation.

And follow the rules they all agreed it should have.

Except we no longer get any input into that.

If you're not worried about that then you should be.
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15/03/2021 17:19:20 3 14
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German election results will mean nothing , they were just regional elections , the coalition will remain in place as per the last 40yrs in germany fear not , Germany will survive easily
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The EU are responding to damage within days of having a jab. Let me ask you something. Do you think that having a covid test and dying 28 days later means you died of the virus? If so, or it might be is your answer then it's a decent bet that the vax is the cause of these deaths and other problems.

If your answer is no, then you agree that only 4500 people have died of covid. Vax not needed.
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15/03/2021 17:31:55 36 1
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It also means thousands more deaths. Weird decision, let's kill a few more thousand while we investigate one death in Denmark.
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So glad we left . This time next year the EU could be a very scary place
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15/03/2021 18:30:08 12 1
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Macron's approval rating has, somewhat inexplicably, risen steadily over the past month - perhaps because he is making fewer announcements in the media
15/03/2021 19:18:10 16 0
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The French are unable to accept that Britain got it right and Germany are never wrong, but I bet that they do not send the vacine to Africa or other countries who are desperate for supplies !
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Not like plague Britain then, should be proud exporting variants cause that the only thing we're good at.
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Yes lost economic out put, but more worryingly lost lives.
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Good news, now the EU don’t seem to want the Oxford vaccine perhaps we can get the whole country done by end of May.

Let’s hope our government don’t have a knee jerk reacontion like some others.
They will still ban exports of the AZ vaccine though Removed
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15/03/2021 17:28:26 18 1
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I think AZ have been shifting EU supply from internal production within the EU due to their issues with production. No point in it sitting on shelves bathing dust, AZ can send it our way.
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15/03/2021 16:59:47 8 39
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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15/03/2021 17:05:33 14 3
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The UK won't halt them as there is no reason to.
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amb
15/03/2021 17:05:48 11 4
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Great news, now can I have my life back
850
15/03/2021 18:25:21 3 1
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I’m guessing that the down voters don’t have a life to go back to.
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DC
15/03/2021 17:00:25 620 35
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While the rest of Europe tries to find a reason to explain their terrible vaccination strategy by halting AZ vaccinations, and now having that as an excuse. We continue to roll on. When you destroy the public confidence in a vaccination to win political points then don't be surprised if no one wants it. I have no doubts that if there is an issue the proper regulatory bodies would step in.
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15/03/2021 17:06:04 93 418
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You really think they would screw over themselves just to score political points?
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DC
15/03/2021 17:09:22 109 6
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we are talking about politicians here right?
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15/03/2021 17:10:21 121 6
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In a heartbeat ...
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Ads
15/03/2021 17:12:31 99 5
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Show me a political power throughout History that hasn't?!
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15/03/2021 17:17:40 67 5
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Yes
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15/03/2021 17:19:18 58 6
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No, they tried to screw us to gain political points, but that backfired horribly and now none of their public wants the AZ vaccine.
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15/03/2021 17:25:36 35 4
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Yes
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kev
15/03/2021 17:29:21 19 1
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Yes, they want an excuse for their failure. They can now further blame the company for their failure
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15/03/2021 17:29:55 11 1
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Yes
322
15/03/2021 17:31:57 22 2
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Yes. The EU have a long history of cutting off their nose to spite the face.
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15/03/2021 17:37:22 14 2
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They have form for it?
392
15/03/2021 17:38:07 10 2
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Mais oui! Jawohl!
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15/03/2021 17:38:29 11 1
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yes
458
15/03/2021 17:44:12 21 4
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Yes . You obviously know little about EU politics . The people are irrelevant to the Eurocrats and their political battles . Ursula the evil and Merkel have caused all of this but hey lets blame the UK ...now all they are talking about is the UK variant ...the one that originated in Europe and is now all over Europe because we are the only ones with the skill to detect it
528
15/03/2021 17:51:19 7 1
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YES
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km
15/03/2021 17:58:38 8 1
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Well Labour do it all the time!!!
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15/03/2021 18:00:39 5 1
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yes
748
15/03/2021 18:13:41 4 0
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Yes
766
15/03/2021 18:15:37 4 0
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Yes
770
15/03/2021 18:15:45 13 1
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They already did it - invoking Irish hard border, leaders saying AZ ineffective etc etc
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15/03/2021 18:16:13 6 0
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Yes
776
15/03/2021 18:16:31 10 0
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Yes. They would screw over their own people, as they have done to our people since EEC became the EU.
922
15/03/2021 18:36:33 3 0
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Definitely!
974
15/03/2021 18:45:35 5 0
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Well yes I do.
15/03/2021 18:58:33 9 2
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They're playing the game. They don't actually have enough AZ vaccine so nobody is missing out in the meantime. They're

A) claiming the reason they haven't rolled out is because they're cautious rather than because they didn't buy earlier,
B) attempting to use bad press to try and 'encourage' AZ to release more to the EU

Hope that helps
15/03/2021 19:00:24 3 0
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Yep
15/03/2021 19:07:17 3 0
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Yes.
15/03/2021 19:11:37 3 0
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Yes.......
15/03/2021 19:11:46 3 0
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Yes - you bet
15/03/2021 19:13:56 3 0
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That would be a YES!
15/03/2021 19:37:23 1 0
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It’s more about defending their poor record to their own electorate. ‘We messed up on the vaccine orders’ or ‘we can’t vaccinate you yet as it may not be safe’. When they see our numbers falling here, for infections, hospitalisation and deaths, and theirs continue to rise, don’t you think the people will start asking questions?
15/03/2021 19:57:58 1 0
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Oh yes!
15/03/2021 20:13:11 1 0
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Yes!
Jim
15/03/2021 20:33:06 1 0
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Absolutely. Twice. And then again. With more in reserve. Political points - why are there 500k of Australian paid for doses locked down in Italy where those doses are not permitted for use? There are politics now all over this vaccination process as political institutions embrace success and side pass failure.
15/03/2021 20:43:15 1 0
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Yep
15/03/2021 20:45:47 1 1
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Yes, the evidence is there. Pfizer/Norway deaths - AZ attacked for no delivery (Pfizer wasn't & it didn't deliver either) No mention of Pfizer as Ursula started a vaccine war with UK (we aren't Astrazeneca), Germany slate AZ for the very group Pfizer's was investigated for killing, then has to retract as lies are pointed out, no sooner German retraction, Ursula, EU and Macro wade in.
15/03/2021 20:43:54 1 0
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Yes
15/03/2021 21:04:44 1 0
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Yep.
15/03/2021 21:14:05 1 0
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Yes.
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15/03/2021 17:06:12 27 7
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All those sheeple who are booking holidays to EU hotspots without thinking things through may see this as a good thing,

However they will need to be prepared for Quarantine when they return if the Covid Rates don't drop dramatically across Europe, and at the moment they show no signs of a significant decline
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15/03/2021 17:07:47 7 9
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Why is that necessary if the same travellers are vaccinated?
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15/03/2021 17:02:10 535 27
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It's incredible that the EU are pausing Vaccines. It's bad new for us and the world. People may be looking at the EU car crash and laughing but it will have more consequences. More infection, more death and more mutations slowing the global recovery down.
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15/03/2021 17:06:14 431 14
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It’s up to the EU if they want to stay in lockdown for another 12 months, more worried about the effect it will have on the vaccine roll out to the rest of the world. The Oxford jab is really the best for a lot of countries due to its less onerous storage requirements, it’s also much less expensive.
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15/03/2021 17:14:36 31 4
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In a nutshell, that's often the problem - "It's up to the EU"

And 50% of the population across all the member states, realise that isn't an attractive position to be in.
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15/03/2021 17:52:07 22 2
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Was listening to a doctor from India today on Hard Talk . They will provide the rest of the world if necessary as they will soon be able to produce billions
15/03/2021 20:14:14 0 5
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And you still believe that the UK will be 'back to normal' by 21st June and forever afterwards? I hope you are right but I will take your tenner at 100/1 that vaccine passports for home and abroad are on the way, more tiered lockdowns next winter and facemask/social distancing rules in hospitality forever unless public stand up against it.
15/03/2021 20:48:25 5 1
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According to Euronews, UP until the EU attacked the AZ vaccine, the EU members wanted it in preference to Pfizer, the problem was, the EU (Germany?) chose the (German) Pfizer vaccine so presumably needed to persuade everyone AZ wasn't as good as Pfizer. They now reap what they sowed!
15/03/2021 22:27:00 1 1
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Don't forget our lockdown "experts" SAGE
16/03/2021 10:11:43 0 0
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The problem is that if the EU and others don't speed up their vaccination programme it is likely to allow a more serious mutation to develop and render the UK vaccinations useless.
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15/03/2021 17:00:53 348 17
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Great news.

I'm in the 40s to 50s group and keen to get my first shot asap.
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15/03/2021 17:06:51 55 363
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I'm genuinely curious, do you think you are at significant risk from covid?
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15/03/2021 17:15:22 89 7
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2 members of my family were hospitalised with it.
Both of them in that age group.
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15/03/2021 17:15:25 165 6
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As a fit person of 43 I'm also keen to get mine asap. I don't feel 'at significant risk', but there is still a risk and the more people vaccinated, the less chance of spreading it and mutations.
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15/03/2021 17:18:13 184 6
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I'm in my 40s. I'm not worried about me, I'm worried about the people I love who are vulnerable. That's why I'll take it.
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15/03/2021 17:23:08 117 5
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The risk of death is incredibly low
Risk of hospitalisation is higher, but still quite low
Then there is the risk of serious illness/loss of taste/long covid
While the risks form the vaccine are significantly closer to zero. I don't see why anyone wouldn't take it when offered.
Also if take up is low and infections are allowed to spread, then there may be further restrictions I'd rather avoid.
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15/03/2021 17:29:58 97 7
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(a) Even if the poster didn't think they were at significant risk, they could be - why take that chance?
(b) It has been proven that being vaccinated reduces transmission, so getting vaccinated is helpful to society in general, which thankfully many people still think is a good thing.
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15/03/2021 17:30:40 29 3
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It doesn't matter whether their risk of catching Covid is significant or not. They could still catch it and die. The point of the vaccine is that it lowers that fatality risk in everybody. Most people are sensible enough to realise that.
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15/03/2021 17:32:21 35 2
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It's not about the individual. Where have you been for the past year?
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15/03/2021 17:43:08 14 30
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I don’t know a single person who has had covid, but I have 2 friends with cancer, one has died, the other moved to a terminal diagnosis during this overly panicked pandemic, both of whom had treatment delayed as the NHS was covid obsessed.
There is much worse out there than covid.
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15/03/2021 17:44:57 8 2
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Anyone can be, you just do not know for sure
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15/03/2021 17:52:48 14 1
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If you have an underlying health condition as I do then the answer is yes. I am 49.
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15/03/2021 18:02:30 11 2
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Maybe, maybe not, but people from all ages groups are getting it, and some even dying from it, so do you want to take that chance? Although it mostly effects older people, there are no guarantees for younger people, especially if they have underlying conditions they're not aware off. And of course we're all getting older and becoming more susceptible to it.
995
15/03/2021 18:22:16 1 2
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It’s about not spreading not if you arecatbrisk
15/03/2021 18:51:01 12 3
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OK so a healthy 40 to 50 year old is not high risk but plenty in this age group have ended up in hospital, some have died and many have long covid - and of course may have unwittingly passed it on to someone more vulnerable. Do you know nothing?
me
15/03/2021 18:52:27 3 1
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I wouldn’t say I think I’m at great risk of COVID but then I had my first jab a few weeks ago and rarely mix or go out and never without my mask
15/03/2021 19:06:07 4 2
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Unfortunately, there are younger people in the news getting seriously ill with Covid, and I've noticed they're all very overweight. Since so many young people are obese, then of course they are at risk, even in their 20s and 30s.
ceb
15/03/2021 19:23:57 8 1
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Long COVID doesn’t sound like a barrel of laughs, it’s not all about deaths. Also being ill is rubbish even if you fully recover. So why not take the jab?
15/03/2021 19:27:49 7 1
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I think i would be ok, but if you gave me a gun and told me you think its not loaded, I still dont think I'd put it to my head and pull the trigger. A vaccine is an added piece of security, that massively reduces any risk of Covid.
15/03/2021 19:29:44 7 0
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I'm in my 40s. I'm more concerned about the potential of scarring to lungs if I were to have a case that required hospital treatment. My father lives with the consequences of lung scarring. It's a pain in the *rs* to say the least. I also want to minimise the chance I pass it on to him even though he has been vaccinated.
tim
15/03/2021 19:40:28 4 2
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10% chance of hospitalisation. 1 in 50 chance of being put into an induced coma with serious long term side effects.

Chances of dying are vanishingly small. Like a car accident. So same reason I avoid car accidents and wear a seat belt.
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15/03/2021 17:07:13 75 9
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Let the EU do its damnedest !

We'll plough ahead and see what they come up with next?
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15/03/2021 17:01:45 706 21
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25 million doses given, if there was a serious problem it would be apparent by now.
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15/03/2021 17:18:06 32 494
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Still you should put your pride aside and investigate it as other do. While awaiting you can use other inoculations. I know it is your baby but you should look at it. Simple as that.
over 400k serious side effects which amounts to about 2%, thats more damage than is caused by the virus. Are you one of the governments agents, or just daft? Removed
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15/03/2021 17:19:58 10 86
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50k+ adverse drug reactions to AZ in UK alone up to 28th Feb (even going by govt. figures), nothing to see here, keep moving...
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15/03/2021 17:20:35 11 86
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Do you really believe this government could be relied upon to be transparent with sharing any data about what is/isn't known in that?
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15/03/2021 17:36:58 7 33
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One answer we can't have yet is how effect any of the vaccines will be in the long run.

It's important we keep going until we're where NZ, Taiwan etc. got (without vaccines).
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15/03/2021 17:25:36 15 89
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"if there was a serious problem it would be apparent by now"

Well no

That's the trouble

There is no way to know what its effect will be over time, except waiting

No experiment no matter how clever can compress time

So all other medicines are trialled for years before approval

In the case of CV19, there was justification for rushing

But it's a gamble

I hope AZ and MHRA did not rush too much
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15/03/2021 17:44:39 11 1
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Exactly
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15/03/2021 18:24:50 13 1
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The rate of cases of blood clots amongst people who have had the AZ virus is marginally lower than it is amongst the general public, so the decision to suspend the programme looks odd.

Wonder how long before we hear countries in the EU using this as an excuse for their poor progress in rolling out the vaccine.
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15/03/2021 18:25:18 4 20
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I'm sure that people said that about thalidomide once. I am a supporter of science but this has all been rushed through very quickly, and the only 100%immunities the jabs give is for the manufacturer against prosecution
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15/03/2021 18:13:13 3 20
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Hypocrisy in extremis currently raging on here. All the Covid-Fascists who have been demanding that we all have a moral duty to get vaxxed in order to save lives, all lives are sacred, a single Covid death is one too many, are now saying a few vax-related deaths are perfectly acceptable, so we should still get vaxxed! I'm not risking my life for the likes you and your sort.
35k injuries reported on the yellow card last week. The media don’t report it Removed
15/03/2021 20:10:23 2 0
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My wife and I had ours .absolutely no problems whatsoever
15/03/2021 20:49:45 0 2
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Not if they're not telling you...
15/03/2021 21:13:10 2 0
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Has anyone asked how many blood clot issues have arisen in Pfizer recipients?

If it's about the normal number pre-covid then why is AZ being targeted?

If its less than usual maybe I'll keep taking Pfizer when I'm getting old and at risk from blood clots.
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16/03/2021 02:00:21 0 1
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Thalidomide was on the market for 4 years before it was admitted that it caused phocomelia in babies.
I hope there is no serious side effect here but caution with all new drugs is fully justified.
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15/03/2021 16:59:47 8 39
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How long until the UK halt vaccinations?
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15/03/2021 17:02:21 13 4
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Not going to happen. - Dr Michael Head, Senior Research Fellow: "The data we have suggests that numbers of adverse events related to blood clots are the same (and possibly, in fact lower) in vaccinated groups compared to unvaccinated populations,"

European lunacy. God help them.
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15/03/2021 17:01:52 184 1190
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EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. Yes, you're right, your post is indeed looking political.
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15/03/2021 17:03:10 126 15
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Erm...they're in the EU.
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15/03/2021 17:58:56 7 7
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But the majority of EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. You do understand that, don't you, or are you just taking an opportunity to spread more quitling lies?
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All good. But never forget this bent gov could have and should have prevented 10's of thousands of deaths to the most vulnerable in our society. This is what will hang on this gov forever. Removed
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15/03/2021 17:12:43 0 1
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Wake up!!!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:10:29 0 1
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Sad person. Your hate will destroy you
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15/03/2021 17:00:53 348 17
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Great news.

I'm in the 40s to 50s group and keen to get my first shot asap.
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15/03/2021 17:07:44 52 5
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I'm in my 50s & have got an appointment for Thursday. I'm sure you won't have to wait long.
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15/03/2021 17:07:45 21 9
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just saying
Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
as well so do not see the profit making vaccine being halted
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15/03/2021 17:11:45 30 2
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In the UK around 2,000 people die every day so it's likely that some of these will die after they got the vaccine, it doesn't mean the vaccine caused them to die.
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NJD
15/03/2021 17:14:23 4 1
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Quite probably terminally Ill elderly folk who would have passed away irrespective of vaccines stop the scaremongering please!
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15/03/2021 17:11:18 3 1
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Nail on the head. This is what this is all about. Nasty EU politik
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15/03/2021 17:24:18 1 2
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Could we have a little more background on their medical status prior to receive the vaccine? How did they die? Were any killed in car crashes or knocked down by a bus. Inform your comments please, unless you're a Daily Mail journalist that is.
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15/03/2021 17:35:13 1 1
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"Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine"

Wrong,Wrong, Wrong, I think maybe 2 died. Post your evidence if you have any or did someone tell you that on Mugbook.
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15/03/2021 17:00:25 780 76
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:07:45 691 54
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Got my invite this morning, happy days!

Quite some achievement to have vaccinated so many people in such a short space of time. I hear nothing but positive reports about how it's all being rolled out, without fuss or incident.

Well done to all concerned, and the UK government.
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15/03/2021 17:25:29 48 2
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I got mine last week when the surgery rang me up to go straightaway as they had a spare vaccination. Apparently some old dear had refused her jab because a friend had told her the AZ vaccination wasn’t very good.
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15/03/2021 17:33:16 40 3
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It's fine, had mine 10 days ago and only a sore arm for day or so Enjoy; you'll feel exhilarated !
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15/03/2021 17:39:56 8 3
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It is quite amazing and I was very very impressed
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15/03/2021 17:52:49 5 34
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UK government have not rolled out this vaccine, this is being done by the NHS, associated services and volunteers. The only credit this lot deserve is the purchasing of the vaccine before other nations.
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15/03/2021 17:54:51 2 27
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It's a shame they aren't one shot deals like the Johnson and Johnson jab, otherwise we'd be even closer to where we need to be. As for credit, I think the developers and NHS should take all the credit, government have just filled in the paper work and followed advice, they took a gamble on vaccines with huge sums of money, its a shame we have to rely on vaccines to save us unlike in OZ and NZ
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15/03/2021 18:12:46 10 1
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Yes, agreed. Had my AZ jab #1 yesterday. Fast & efficient
784
15/03/2021 18:17:45 10 1
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Had mine end of last week. No fuss, all well organised, simple and quick. Great job done by all the organisers and medical staff.
15/03/2021 19:09:43 1 5
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Why did you bother with all the patronizing stuff & just come out with praising the government?
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15/03/2021 20:21:47 6 1
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And it seems we have a bonus of 10 million more AZ doses this week, probably because the EU doesn't want it..
Oh happy days indeed.
15/03/2021 20:49:16 0 5
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You can have mine cause I ain't having it....worst of a good bunch
15/03/2021 20:52:12 0 7
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I was treated like a dog and lied to at my vaccination appointment yesterday.

I went on to explain to them at the venue why I couldn't take the Zeneca vaccine but they closed me down and literally laughed at me on the way out.

I made a formal complaint to my GP, asking too for the Pfizer vaccine. I offered to pay for it.

As a retired RGN, I'm wary of potentially poor responses to vaccinations.
15/03/2021 22:22:00 0 3
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UK government. By which you mean international science and the NHS?
15/03/2021 22:53:46 0 4
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.... And yet we're still not allowed to leave the country, go to the cinema, go to the pub. With basically noone dying aside from those who were one foot in the grave anyway, what exactly is the point? Let's all get vaccinated, so we can... Continue being locked up in our homes. Pointless.

And before you say it, yes I will be getting jabbed when it eventually is my turn.
15/03/2021 23:32:37 0 2
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And the UK as a nation. Do not give the Tories any credit whatsoever because they have made monumental errors in failing to deal with this pandemic.
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15/03/2021 17:06:12 27 7
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All those sheeple who are booking holidays to EU hotspots without thinking things through may see this as a good thing,

However they will need to be prepared for Quarantine when they return if the Covid Rates don't drop dramatically across Europe, and at the moment they show no signs of a significant decline
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15/03/2021 17:07:47 7 9
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Why is that necessary if the same travellers are vaccinated?
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15/03/2021 17:13:09 9 1
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Because none of the vaccines will completely stop the risk of one catching covid or passing it on!
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15/03/2021 17:26:00 0 2
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Thanks for seeing through the FD argument......We seem to be disregarding the point and effect of vaccination. Doh!
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15/03/2021 18:15:37 2 0
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Your lack of understanding of how a vaccination programme works is most worrying.
15/03/2021 19:13:55 1 0
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@fish and chips, because the vaccine only limits the severity of the virus, it doesn't eliminate it or reduce the likelihood of spread.
What needs to be done to get this message across?
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15/03/2021 17:07:59 15 2
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Good to hear, the positives far outweigh the negatives and shall save lives and also less of long term effects of covid. All vaccines carry a risk and we have to remember that. I can understand concern by other countries and note they are delaying using the vaccine rather than abandoning it. Time will tell if their decisions were justified.
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15/03/2021 17:03:46 237 9
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I suspect the risk of death or serious illness from vaccination is statistically far lower than the risk from Covid. The EU nations suspending the use of the AZ vaccine are into their 3rd wave of infection are creating an enormous issue for themselves.
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15/03/2021 17:08:02 352 7
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There are about 3,000 blood clots per month in the UK without the vaccine so some of them are going to coincide with people having the vaccine, that's all that's happening here. The risk of doing nothing is far greater than the risk of being vaccinated.
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15/03/2021 17:29:07 23 1
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Given Thrombosisuk.org quote a figure of c.57 deaths from blood clots per 100,000 admissions to hospital I agree you would appear to be better off getting vaccinated, with a risk of .25 cases (not deaths) of blood clots per 100,000 vaccinated, than ending up in hospital through Covid.
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Ray
15/03/2021 18:22:58 14 0
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The normal rate is 120 per 1 Million per month - that equates for the 54 Million UK adults to 6,480 cases per month. On this basis the vaccine actually prevents blood clots.
15/03/2021 20:54:10 2 6
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As long as your not one having the clots...
16/03/2021 07:48:05 1 0
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Well said. Also, there is the small possibility that people might also be sickening for the disease when they have the vaccine and don't know it, which makes things more complicated.
16/03/2021 07:50:13 4 0
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And those that have clotted due to the vaccine have any died ? or were they treated for their clots and back home now

Member of my family takes medication to fight clots due to a long term problem and they have had the AZ two months ago with no problems
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15/03/2021 17:08:14 206 9
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How shortsighted of the EU nations to suspend their vaccination programmes, due to an infinitesimally small number of issues, which will likely occur regardless of being vaccinated or not. Many people will now die needlessly because of this - doubtless within a week or so they will be complaining about something else. Can’t see many holidays to Europe happening this year somehow.
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15/03/2021 17:14:01 39 174
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
677
15/03/2021 18:06:23 4 1
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Yes but dont forget they will ALL die from the British Covid ( that originated in Spain )
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15/03/2021 18:24:36 2 0
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No , but we can probably go to USA,
15/03/2021 22:17:17 0 1
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Norway is not in the EU nor is Thailand! Countries have the right to choose whatever course of action they wish to take.
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Bob
15/03/2021 17:08:24 17 5
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My heart stopped when I saw this figure. Turns out it was just a blood clot.

In other news my jab went well.
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15/03/2021 17:04:54 360 18
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The EU is behaving inexplicably. Whatever their reasons, surely it means another three months of lost economic output. Glad they think they can afford it. Based on the election results in Germany and Macron's weak position, perhaps they should realise that they are standing in a burning building while fussing about which exit they use.
or in a boat which is leaking one end, but they are in the end above the water refusing to help bail the water out. Removed
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:08:31 29 22
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The Brexit nut-jobs are out in force today. The UK vaccine rollout is proving a tremendous success... but this article is about the UK. There are plenty of articles on the EU elsewhere.
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15/03/2021 17:02:37 188 15
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Full steam ahead the good ship UK.
The captain of that ship is a corrupt serial liar Removed
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When everyone is vaccinated....
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15/03/2021 17:08:46 3 19
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Why does everyone need to be vaccinated. Just the vulnerable no?
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15/03/2021 17:16:18 3 4
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?? A lot of dislikes for a perfectly logical question
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15/03/2021 17:25:35 7 3
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no telling who is vulnerable. Risks are lower in younger groups but non zero.
I am an EU citizen of Poland and Danmark so I will wait for my inoculation as I obey my authorities. I always look up to Scandies. Embassy has sent me an email to wait. Removed
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15/03/2021 17:11:24 2 1
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Good luck with that!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:21:38 0 1
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Are the Scandies taller than you ?
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15/03/2021 17:09:01 173 9
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Remarkable and if Europe have doubts about AZ. Send it over here.
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15/03/2021 17:32:24 33 58
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Send what over here?
The latest vaccine-immune coronavirus mutation?
Because that is what will happen, of EU, Brazil, South Africa, the rest of the world don't get on with vaccinating their populations.
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Send what over here?
The latest, vax resistant mutation?
That WILL happen!
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Notice the subdued reporting of this issue by the BBC?

What a contrast to a year ago, when BBC reporters kept telling us how good the German system is.

Not to mention the silent treatment the BBC has given to the EU vaccination fiasco.

Or, indeed, the lack of BBC positive comment on our lucky escape from the European Medicines Agency.
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Seriously, were you actually expecting the BBC to run an anti EU story or even a pro UK one ?

You're on the wrong site.
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Great news.

I'm in the 40s to 50s group and keen to get my first shot asap.
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15/03/2021 17:09:09 58 5
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Yes, while the EU grind their program to a complete holt we should accelerate ours, let’s get all adults done by the end of May, should be more doses available now, no point in AZ shipping more to the EU to sit on shelves going to waste.
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15/03/2021 17:01:52 184 1190
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EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. Yes, you're right, your post is indeed looking political.
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Seeing your comments, in the past, we all know which side you're on!!
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15/03/2021 17:25:29 24 9
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You clearly haven’t read the initial post and the response, then you make an assumption on your failing to do so.
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You think there are sides?! Baffling
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15/03/2021 17:59:23 1 3
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Right back at you, Little Boy Billy.
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You really think they would screw over themselves just to score political points?
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15/03/2021 17:09:22 109 6
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we are talking about politicians here right?
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15/03/2021 17:12:56 9 100
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I'm aware that there is a general dislike of polticians. But logically, what benefit would they get from halting the vaccine just for the sake of it?

All they are doing is screwing over their own political hopes.

Chances are, there are some side effects from the vaccine. And they're just waiting to see more studies to determine how wide spread these effects are.

Pretty sensible to me.
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Notice the subdued reporting of this issue by the BBC?

What a contrast to a year ago, when BBC reporters kept telling us how good the German system is.

Not to mention the silent treatment the BBC has given to the EU vaccination fiasco.

Or, indeed, the lack of BBC positive comment on our lucky escape from the European Medicines Agency.
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15/03/2021 17:09:27 13 8
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Who on earth gives a down tick on this!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:40:28 3 20
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Me, for one.
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15/03/2021 17:09:27 889 53
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Alleged incidents of blood clots is 0.007 per 1000 , whereas women’s pill gives severe potentially fatal reaction in 0.6 per 1000 , Eu decisions still seemed based on politics rather than science
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15/03/2021 17:18:22 68 524
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What politics?
Neither AZ nor the UK are making any profit out of their vaccine.
So what would the EU motivation be?
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15/03/2021 17:34:56 48 65
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Oh dear... The usual lot who believe that everything is a football match...

And they're full of anti-European hysteria...

And they never read the article, or they'd had read that the responsible EU agency actually advises the SOVEREIGN members that it is safe.

As for myself, I trust AZ and I'm looking forward to having it. Not because it's "our own" but because the evidence says so.
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15/03/2021 18:15:15 4 0
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They don't want to fuel the anti-vax crowd who aren't big on science and facts
15/03/2021 19:15:25 6 0
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about the same chance as a healthy person under 60 dying... but lets not talk about 'those' stats since they dont fit into the hysteria model.
15/03/2021 19:19:59 0 2
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And your point is?
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15/03/2021 19:28:32 1 0
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Dum answer
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15/03/2021 17:00:25 780 76
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:09:36 22 16
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Macron says: "We are therefore suspending its use until tomorrow [Tuesday] afternoon." Not sure that constitutes a ban?
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15/03/2021 18:22:11 4 1
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Spain 2 weeks.
Then macron is making his plans public tomorrow, suspicion of vaccine ban + more confinement
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15/03/2021 17:04:54 360 18
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The EU is behaving inexplicably. Whatever their reasons, surely it means another three months of lost economic output. Glad they think they can afford it. Based on the election results in Germany and Macron's weak position, perhaps they should realise that they are standing in a burning building while fussing about which exit they use.
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15/03/2021 17:09:44 3 52
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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15/03/2021 17:28:56 32 2
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Stop repeating your repetitive diatribe
15/03/2021 21:06:27 9 1
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LOL they are 'Sovereign' now because the EU stuffed up the whole system, AND even worse, the EU states wanted AZ's vaccine, but EU favoured Pfizer. In the vaccine war Pfizer gets away with everything & Ursula, Merkel, Macron, EU all trash the AZ vaccine so now no one wants it! Why Merkel's party got a kicking over the weekend.
16/03/2021 07:35:42 1 0
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Is your CTR Key or V Key stuck
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15/03/2021 17:04:54 360 18
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The EU is behaving inexplicably. Whatever their reasons, surely it means another three months of lost economic output. Glad they think they can afford it. Based on the election results in Germany and Macron's weak position, perhaps they should realise that they are standing in a burning building while fussing about which exit they use.
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15/03/2021 17:09:46 4 35
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Politics is transient..

The one thing we can be sure of is that the continental nations may change political allegiance internally, but they will always remain part of the EU organisation.

And follow the rules they all agreed it should have.

Except we no longer get any input into that.

If you're not worried about that then you should be.
15/03/2021 21:09:09 7 0
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Why? Their vaccine debacle is now a disaster, they even chipped in to Covax after the UK led the way & have tried by pledging more (in Germany' case) to undo the damage to their global reputation for starting a vaccine war. Merkel's party got hammered for it over the weekend. The EU has only a trade war to try & beat the UK, & that ain't working too well either!
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15/03/2021 17:10:11 4 9
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So far it doesn't seem that the blood clot issue is anything to worry about.
Personally I'm more concerned about the long term impact of our current strategy.
inevitably the virus will mutate, like flu, and I dare say science will try and keep up, but what if one year they can't. There won't be any herd immunity in the population if we insist on vaccinating all ages.
Or am I missing something?
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15/03/2021 17:14:27 1 2
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It's likely this will become a regular seasonal event like the flu in which case the most vulnerable/elderly are likely to get a booster jab. If you are under 50 statistically you don't have much to worry about whichever way you look at it.
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15/03/2021 17:20:20 2 1
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My wife was part of the novavax trial. She starts again in two weeks on the tweaked version to combat the Kent and SA variants.
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15/03/2021 17:20:36 1 1
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The current strategy also doesn't emphasise or promote healthy life choices enough compared with the enormous benefit of doing so. If everybody dropped processed food and started yoga when the pandemic hit, by now they would have a lot less to worry about. I wouldn't want this to be mandated but surely some of the government propaganda budget could be spent on promoting a healthy lifestyle?
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15/03/2021 17:20:45 0 2
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What is the normal incidence of DVT in a population over 65 ? If it is statistically significantly raised following vaccination, then there may be a problem. Look at the stats and make a rational judgement, not just what a half educated journalist writes to fill space.
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15/03/2021 17:24:00 0 1
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The vaccination effectively 'is' herd immunity - the vaccine mimics the virus so the body learns to fight it off and if it comes into contact with covid it has already built a template/strategy for how to fight it off that it can use immediately... mutations to the virus that rendered-ineffective learned immunity from vaccines, would also render-ineffective learned immunity from covid.
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15/03/2021 17:39:11 0 1
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Coronaviruses don't mutate at anything like the rate of flu viruses because they have a proofreading mechanism. The other coronaviruses in circulation are very mild and infect infants who become immune without serious health problems. Best case is that will happen with Covid.
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15/03/2021 17:03:55 2 28
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Germany don't get much wrong!

For that reason..... I'm oot!
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15/03/2021 17:13:37 3 3
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Germany have got plenty wrong. Know your history.
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15/03/2021 17:13:58 0 1
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No but when they do.............. they really screw up.
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15/03/2021 17:15:30 0 1
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Some other big hitters taking the precaution too, Ireland, Iceland, Austria, Holland and Norway...
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15/03/2021 17:15:33 0 1
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yes interesting that Germany has seemingly messed this up, they are usually on the ball regarding health of the nation, all seems very odd, but like others well have the jab, the more that do , the more will have it , its the sheep effect,, but like you say , Germany getting it so wrong, very odd
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15/03/2021 17:17:02 0 1
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Says alot about you, that crass statement!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:17:16 0 1
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They've got this wrong in a big way as time will bear out.
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15/03/2021 17:17:33 0 1
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Yes they do
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15/03/2021 17:18:46 0 1
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Germany get plenty of things wrong but it’s your choice
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15/03/2021 17:16:34 0 1
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Apart from the whole vaccination roll out, and procurement of their OWN vaccine. Complete incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:17:11 0 1
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They got their immigration policy wrong.
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Great news.

I'm in the 40s to 50s group and keen to get my first shot asap.
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15/03/2021 17:04:22 5 22
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????
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15/03/2021 17:05:07 77 13
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EU politics at worst using peoples lives.
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15/03/2021 17:13:50 12 71
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I suggest you look at the UK number of deaths.
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15/03/2021 17:38:45 1 14
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politics? yeah i can imagine macron, merkel, rutte and draghi went on facetime last night after a few drinks and LOL decided to suspend use of the AZ vaccine themselves for a big laugh to "get back" at Britain for... absolutely nothing. Come on, your point doesn't make sense at all
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You really think they would screw over themselves just to score political points?
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15/03/2021 17:10:21 121 6
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In a heartbeat ...
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15/03/2021 17:10:22 62 2
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The rollout seems to be going well which is good news as we need to get these restrictions lifted asap. The problem of not having a significant number of people vaccinated is becoming apparent in the rest of Europe.
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Given that the Oxford/AZ phase3 clinical trial is due to officially finish in Sept 2021, and normally the data collected from such trials are then analyzed for years afterwards before being able to be declared sfae for use or not, I will definately not be joining in this experiment. As a healthy 39yr old, I'd much rather take my chance with the real virus, as I have a 99.96% chance of survival!
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Well said.
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15/03/2021 17:13:47 4 3
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Yeah, and spread it to someone less healthy than you. Selfish and disgusting behaviour like this is what kills people.
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15/03/2021 17:14:27 1 1
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Your chances of survival are actually even greater as a healthy 39 Yr old. 99.96% or whatever it may be is the average throughout the population.
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15/03/2021 17:15:08 2 2
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Your choice. But keep away from people as you might be a carrier. Also. I hope you don't catch covid it's not nice. I have had it but luckily for me not bad. Just because you say your healthy does not mean you can't get a bad dose.
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15/03/2021 17:15:16 1 1
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I just had the AZ vaccine. For 48 hours, I felt like I'd been 15 rounds with Mike Tyson. If that's what the vaccine does to the immune system, imagine how bad the actual virus could be.

You are the one experimenting.
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15/03/2021 17:15:20 1 1
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Be sure to take into account the risks and benefits beyond merely surviving. You're unlikely to die from the virus, but you could still end up being stuck in hospital for weeks...
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15/03/2021 17:16:40 1 1
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All the vaccine does is expose you to something that looks like covid to encourage your body to produce antibodies, it is NOT a drug and you are at far greater risk than you say as you could end up being debilitated with Long Covid.
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15/03/2021 17:16:41 2 2
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In the meantime on behalf of those you risk infecting thanks a bunch.
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15/03/2021 17:16:47 2 3
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It's not about you Will you utter pratt! If you don't take it, you're likely to get it eventually and then infect someone who can't have the jab due to underlying health reasons!! Just take it you twonk!
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And the trials are usually years apart waiting for finding
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15/03/2021 17:17:51 2 2
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I have joined in the experiment and no ill-effects. Quite happy to "take the risk". Think you've watched "I am Legend" too many times. Good luck with the real virus!
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15/03/2021 17:18:06 0 1
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All the countries not wanting the Astra zenica jab please send them to a country that does. You wait for the EU to try and make Pzior deliver to them before the UK. Good job we are not part of this anymore.
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15/03/2021 17:18:19 1 2
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More fool you then. Good luck with any planned foreign travel in the future.
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15/03/2021 17:18:29 0 2
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It's the not so healthy you come into contact with who don't have your 99.96% chance of survival. Someone else's grandad maybe, or your parents, a kid with immunodeficiency...? You good with that?
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15/03/2021 18:24:18 1 0
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To all you commenting about me being selfish by not wanting to have the experimental 'vaccine' - you do all realise that the 'vaccine' has not been proven to stop transmission? Or infection? That the trials were not designed to measure this? All you have done is experiment upon yourself, and have the same chance as me (unvaccinated) of contracting covid, and also passing it on. Well done you!
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15/03/2021 17:01:52 184 1190
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EU countries are not stopping vaccinations. Yes, you're right, your post is indeed looking political.
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15/03/2021 18:06:30 3 4
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Enlighten yourself. There are other vaccines.
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15/03/2021 17:10:51 0 10
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Do we have to have it as soon as we're called. Can we roll up at some time in the future?
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15/03/2021 17:13:20 2 1
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Why do you want to do that?
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15/03/2021 17:15:05 0 1
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you can if you want to but why would you wait and risk getting VERY ill or possibly dying with Covid
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15/03/2021 17:16:23 1 1
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I’d take it when your called as you could end up at the back of the queue.
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15/03/2021 17:20:51 1 1
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Yes you can get it any time you want

Provided it is not withdrawn on safety grounds first
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15/03/2021 17:10:52 49 2
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I'm pleased with the quick and efficient rollout, and the "risks" taken by the UK government. Although I'm low risk myself, too many people are directly and indirectly affected by Covid, also the young and healthy. A situation like in January with overrun hospitals, isn't good for anyone. We should all try to prevent this ever happening again, and vaccines play a very big part in this.
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15/03/2021 17:15:18 7 16
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And how will you "prevent this happening again" ? It will happen again, but with a different virus. Response time to this virus and immunisation has been phenomenal.
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15/03/2021 17:32:44 0 2
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Of course. Let's just get them thoroughly tested first, eh? I'm not risking my life. Statistically I'm more likely to die as a consequence of taking the vaccine than of the 'Rona.
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15/03/2021 17:10:52 51 3
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Hope they can accelerate vaccination because it looks like people are giving up on lockdown measures no matter what anybody says about it
15/03/2021 19:46:19 16 3
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Yes they are, gathering in public when it is NOT safe to do so.
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15/03/2021 17:10:55 178 6
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My husband suffered a blood clot in November and was treated. I'm glad it was then and not after he had his vaccination, as we would never have known if it was caused by the vaccine or not.
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15/03/2021 17:14:10 192 9
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Your comment just goes to show how silly the EU are being, if vaccinations were being done last November he would have still had the clot, that's the point, the vaccine isn't causing clots, it's purely co-incidental,
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15/03/2021 17:17:20 22 4
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You would know if you look at the evidence and don’t start following EU unfounded news.
AZ vaccine is formulated using same method as for flu vacs which is proven and perfectly safe.
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15/03/2021 17:44:49 17 0
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Hope he's fully recovered.
15/03/2021 18:51:02 10 0
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Glad he's better. Unfortunately, so very common.
15/03/2021 18:35:44 0 10
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it will probably put down to covid anyway im afraid in the uk
15/03/2021 21:32:29 1 5
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And your point is?
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Totally absurd that EU stops vaccinating. 40 cases in 30,000,000 is minuscule and not a problem. Maybe they don’t like the fact that WE developed it.
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15/03/2021 17:13:01 9 107
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Grow up.
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15/03/2021 17:14:24 2 1
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I'd wager a bet that's fsirlyt similar to the usual ammount of cars of them

A quick Google says approx 100k People a year in the USA die from them
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15/03/2021 17:15:26 4 9
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I doubt you did anything to develop it.
FYI AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.
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15/03/2021 17:19:07 7 10
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Apart from the fact that AZ is partly a Swedish company, and the guy at the head of the Oxford team developing the vaccine is French, you clearly have just shown your ignorance with your comment.
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15/03/2021 17:19:08 4 19
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20% of all covid deaths this year in Norway were down to the vaccine
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15/03/2021 17:31:05 2 9
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Hypocrisy! We can't have anyone dying of Covid, but you want us all to risk our lives by taking an untested vaccine! Lunacy! If there was the slightest concern about any other medicine, its use would be halted immediately pending further tests...
15/03/2021 21:27:22 1 0
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Maybe & the fact that Bild & French News outlets cited the EU vaccine debacle as an excellent advert for Brexit. The other issue is Pfizer is German so they say, & is sold for Profit it was also the EU's favoured vaccine. Until the EU started slating AZ, member states wanted AZ, cheaper (not for profit) easier to handle, proven technology. Go figure, as the Yanks might say
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15/03/2021 22:33:09 0 0
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When you say "we", what exactly was your role?
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Excellent progress, hats off!
Strange the EU is suspending the AZ when they should be ramping it up. V sad as it will cost lives.
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15/03/2021 17:31:36 34 139
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Its not 'the EU' its the medical regulators of various countries both in & out of the EU
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I am an EU citizen of Poland and Danmark so I will wait for my inoculation as I obey my authorities. I always look up to Scandies. Embassy has sent me an email to wait. Removed
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15/03/2021 17:11:24 2 1
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Good luck with that!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:11:25 399 20
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Extra supplies? Is that because nobody in Europe is using it anymore?!

I honestly don't understand their mentality.

AZ aren't giving us enough vaccines, we blame the UK
AZ vaccine doesn't work on older people, we won't use it
Oh, it does work. Ok we'll use it again
AZ aren't giving us enough vaccines. UK's fault again
Oh, zero evidence of increased risk of blood clots. Let's stop using it again
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15/03/2021 17:13:27 189 24
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Sore losers.
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15/03/2021 17:15:20 19 1
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think you forgot:
"AZ vaccine doesn't work on older people, we won't use it - and we won't let it be exported to Australia either"

we need to get the whole world vaccinated - hopefully these are teething pains, and not the sign of things to come!
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15/03/2021 17:27:45 2 1
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Political non compliance nor acceptance of UK correctness.
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15/03/2021 17:14:47 15 2
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Nasty EU politik
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15/03/2021 17:34:01 15 1
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And in the meantime lets not ship any to Australia...
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15/03/2021 17:29:13 3 19
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Zero evidence, yet, and yet people are dying. If there was the slightest concern about any other medicine, its use would be halted immediately pending further tests...
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15/03/2021 18:22:49 13 0
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France you can understand. Their vaccine attempt was a total failure!!
They must be REALLY embarrassed- virtually everyone else's works!!!!
15/03/2021 20:52:58 1 15
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You can have my crap AZ
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15/03/2021 17:10:32 7 29
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Given that the Oxford/AZ phase3 clinical trial is due to officially finish in Sept 2021, and normally the data collected from such trials are then analyzed for years afterwards before being able to be declared sfae for use or not, I will definately not be joining in this experiment. As a healthy 39yr old, I'd much rather take my chance with the real virus, as I have a 99.96% chance of survival!
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15/03/2021 17:11:44 6 12
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Well said.
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15/03/2021 17:07:45 21 9
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just saying
Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
as well so do not see the profit making vaccine being halted
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15/03/2021 17:11:45 30 2
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In the UK around 2,000 people die every day so it's likely that some of these will die after they got the vaccine, it doesn't mean the vaccine caused them to die.
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15/03/2021 17:14:58 0 5
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so you disagree with EU halting using AV oxford vaccine
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15/03/2021 17:12:05 5 13
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Mrs Thatcher would have had this sorted out by now
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15/03/2021 17:15:01 4 4
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There’s no such thing as society = no chance of spread? Or would she just have made the virus unemployed?
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15/03/2021 17:16:58 0 2
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What?

EU countries playing politics??
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15/03/2021 17:17:03 2 2
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Aye right, she would have blamed Arthur Scargill and hired someone to close down the pharmaceutical industry long before they had a chance to develop a vaccine. The reason why we are reliant on foreign factories producing the stuff is because she wanted the UK to be a service economy, she wouldn't have been as disasterous now as she was vindictive then.
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15/03/2021 17:25:22 1 3
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Mrs Thatcher wouldn’t need to worry. It seems that we have at last got it sorted in the UK.

But this success of 2021 has to be contrasted with the massive blunders made in 2020, especially waiting until after Christmas before acting on the Kent variant surge.
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:12:06 107 10
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Bizarrely they are blocking exports of a vaccine they now won’t use themselves. Yes they accuse the UK of vaccine nationalism ?

They really do just keep digging it seems.
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This might get lots of thumbs down, but when you look at the UK's vaccination response and progress, thank God the EU is now in our rear view mirror
OMG the UK have just halted the AZ rollout due to an number of unexplained broken toenails among the ballet dancing fraternity.???? Removed
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We just can't have anyone dying from the effects of Covid, but it's perfectly fine to kill a few with a vaccine for it. If ever there was a case of warped thinking...
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15/03/2021 17:12:31 62 3
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Well done UK. I only hope that other European countries come to their senses soon about AstraZeneca.
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15/03/2021 17:27:01 2 51
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Come to their senses? Do you have access to information about the deaths caused by blood clotting following vaccination that no one else has?
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15/03/2021 17:06:04 93 418
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You really think they would screw over themselves just to score political points?
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15/03/2021 17:12:31 99 5
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Show me a political power throughout History that hasn't?!
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15/03/2021 17:12:38 24 4
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Covid19 CAUSES blood clots! Maybe all these people already had Covid19!!

Keep calm and carry on.
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15/03/2021 17:24:15 6 2
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There would be no reason for a blood clot to form so long as the injection was carried out properly.

The vaccine is NOT a live virus so should not interact with body just because a person has already had covid-19.
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All good. But never forget this bent gov could have and should have prevented 10's of thousands of deaths to the most vulnerable in our society. This is what will hang on this gov forever. Removed
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15/03/2021 17:12:43 0 1
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Wake up!!!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:03:50 179 10
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Great news. I had my 1st vaccination this morning. Very well organised from booking to going to the vac centre. Fantastic job all round. 2nd jab booked for June 1st
Any less rusty yet? Removed
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15/03/2021 17:09:22 109 6
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we are talking about politicians here right?
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15/03/2021 17:12:56 9 100
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I'm aware that there is a general dislike of polticians. But logically, what benefit would they get from halting the vaccine just for the sake of it?

All they are doing is screwing over their own political hopes.

Chances are, there are some side effects from the vaccine. And they're just waiting to see more studies to determine how wide spread these effects are.

Pretty sensible to me.
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15/03/2021 17:17:39 99 5
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They are covering their backsides to hide their incompetence behind a false shield of "problems with the AZ vaccine.
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15/03/2021 17:20:27 47 3
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There are none so blind as those who will not see
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15/03/2021 17:26:25 5 4
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Pretty stupid to everybody else
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15/03/2021 17:27:28 23 4
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The Pfizer jab is showing slightly more cases of blood clots but they’re happy to use that. Strange
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15/03/2021 17:36:05 26 4
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Major benefit to the Germans, the BioNTech part of the (more expensive) Pfizer vaccine is a German company so using Pfizer instead of Astra Zeneca is a boost to their economy.
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15/03/2021 17:47:14 22 3
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And, in the meantime, infections/deaths will continue to rise and countries which have suspended AstraZeneca will have to lockdown, damaging economies in the process.

Right from the start leaders of EU nations cast doubt on the Oxford vaccine. In doing so they ensured that their citizens no longer have confidence in it. Friends in France (over 70) still waiting for a 1st dose of Pfizer.
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15/03/2021 18:26:57 11 1
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But they've done that already; their health regulator has reviewed all the evidence and, along with the WHO, found it to actually be less of a risk than most standard vaccines.

This is the EU needing an excuse. If you rule out the AZ vaccine for a while, you can blame your vaccination programmes pathetic figures on "health concerns", " we're just being extra cautious" e.t.c. going forward.
15/03/2021 19:38:13 1 0
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And in the meantime 1000s more die of Covid.
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15/03/2021 17:10:58 94 15
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Totally absurd that EU stops vaccinating. 40 cases in 30,000,000 is minuscule and not a problem. Maybe they don’t like the fact that WE developed it.
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15/03/2021 17:13:01 9 107
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Grow up.
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15/03/2021 17:40:27 4 1
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An adult response?????????????
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15/03/2021 17:57:00 1 1
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Sadly I think there is some truth in it. There is no valid reason for their actions - the EU's own regulator has said this, and the WHO, and their citizens will die as a result.
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15/03/2021 18:21:15 1 0
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Wake up.
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15/03/2021 17:07:47 7 9
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Why is that necessary if the same travellers are vaccinated?
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15/03/2021 17:13:09 9 1
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Because none of the vaccines will completely stop the risk of one catching covid or passing it on!
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15/03/2021 17:13:18 1 12
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It is individual nations that have suspended the shot. The EU itself has suspended nothing. While it seems extraordinary, why would they do this to themselves, with all the consequent damage, if they did not have some serious concerns. If it were just France and Italy, I would sort of get it because snootiness is in their national characters, but Norway and Germany?? Do they have a point?
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15/03/2021 17:16:32 1 4
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Read the VAERS for the U.S, then read the yellow card reporting for U.K. they have a point and only our media and government are ignoring the 2% of people seriously harmed. Then again, whitless and co have all invested personally into the manufacturers and get kick backs.
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15/03/2021 17:19:33 2 1
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No no point going there, however if your a typical EUer then as all your previous post it’s not working chum, Indian/Oxford vaccine very good, been 17 million jabs and 30 have raised unidentifiable issues.

EU posters just can’t get to grips that EU in the eyes of UK citizens is something to steer clear of.

Well done Boris top bloke
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15/03/2021 17:10:51 0 10
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Do we have to have it as soon as we're called. Can we roll up at some time in the future?
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15/03/2021 17:13:20 2 1
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Why do you want to do that?
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15/03/2021 17:16:42 0 1
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That information is in the need-to-know file, mate.
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15/03/2021 17:11:25 399 20
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Extra supplies? Is that because nobody in Europe is using it anymore?!

I honestly don't understand their mentality.

AZ aren't giving us enough vaccines, we blame the UK
AZ vaccine doesn't work on older people, we won't use it
Oh, it does work. Ok we'll use it again
AZ aren't giving us enough vaccines. UK's fault again
Oh, zero evidence of increased risk of blood clots. Let's stop using it again
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15/03/2021 17:13:27 189 24
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Sore losers.
15/03/2021 20:47:28 5 0
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Same as it ever was.
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15/03/2021 17:03:55 2 28
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Germany don't get much wrong!

For that reason..... I'm oot!
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15/03/2021 17:13:37 3 3
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Germany have got plenty wrong. Know your history.
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15/03/2021 17:10:32 7 29
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Given that the Oxford/AZ phase3 clinical trial is due to officially finish in Sept 2021, and normally the data collected from such trials are then analyzed for years afterwards before being able to be declared sfae for use or not, I will definately not be joining in this experiment. As a healthy 39yr old, I'd much rather take my chance with the real virus, as I have a 99.96% chance of survival!
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15/03/2021 17:13:47 4 3
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Yeah, and spread it to someone less healthy than you. Selfish and disgusting behaviour like this is what kills people.
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15/03/2021 17:44:09 1 1
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I live alone. I'm primary care-giver for my 96yr old housebound grandmother. I take all precutions, as I am the one keeping her alive. For 5months last year, I was the only person she saw. Her health is my main concern. I'm just not experimenting on myself until more is known about this vaccine, and personally, I have a statistically fantastic chance of survival if I catch it. Cheers!
16/03/2021 19:05:18 0 0
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Waste of time selfish morons care not a jot for the rest of society
They won’t be shouting rubbish quite so loudly though if they give it a loved one or friend who then is seriously ill or sadly passes away
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15/03/2021 17:05:07 77 13
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EU politics at worst using peoples lives.
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15/03/2021 17:13:50 12 71
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I suggest you look at the UK number of deaths.
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15/03/2021 17:22:28 20 4
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I suggest your contry counts them properly
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15/03/2021 17:39:06 10 1
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Sadly it's not over yet. Vaccinations save lives and many European countries are not vaccinating quickly enough. When the final death tolls are counted, it maybe these countries will regret their government's tardiness. It's not over: we have to wait for the singing.
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15/03/2021 17:26:55 2 1
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yrs, they are coming down rapidly.
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15/03/2021 18:12:46 11 0
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I suggest you look at those deaths in a few months time
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15/03/2021 18:26:54 12 1
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We count differently. The only EU country that counts the same us Belgium, and they have had more. Despite that, Italy, Spain and France are fast catching us up unfortunately.
15/03/2021 21:34:45 3 0
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I suggest you look at the EU number of deaths, much larger than the UK ,but if you want to talk of mortality per capita, then the UK is now dropping down this list as other EU countries rise above us, 3 at the last count, and others not far behind.
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15/03/2021 17:03:55 2 28
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Germany don't get much wrong!

For that reason..... I'm oot!
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15/03/2021 17:13:58 0 1
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No but when they do.............. they really screw up.
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15/03/2021 17:13:59 4 4
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One could speculate that these episodes of blood clots may be more likely after the second shot and on certain groups with prior conditions or older age that were not studied extensively in phase 3 trials. This could explain why these episodes energed so far only in Europe and not UK. But only further study can tell
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15/03/2021 17:19:36 6 1
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One could speculate that these episodes of blood clots may be more likely after the second shot and on certain groups with prior conditions or older age

Speculation does not produce positive connective results.

Without evidence there is no proof.

At present there is no evidence that vaccination produces clots above the noise signature where blood clots are nominal in the population.

Relax.
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15/03/2021 17:28:45 2 1
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EU is nowhere near second shots! They're barely near first shots! If this blood clot issue was true UK with over 25 million vaccinations would be seeing high proportions of blood clots if only on simple % of total. And we would have known about it way back in January when the highest risk cohorts went through - we didn't and we haven't! Can you imagine the UK media if there was a blood clot surge
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15/03/2021 17:08:14 206 9
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How shortsighted of the EU nations to suspend their vaccination programmes, due to an infinitesimally small number of issues, which will likely occur regardless of being vaccinated or not. Many people will now die needlessly because of this - doubtless within a week or so they will be complaining about something else. Can’t see many holidays to Europe happening this year somehow.
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15/03/2021 17:14:01 39 174
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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15/03/2021 17:31:29 27 2
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Found out how to copy and paste, have you?
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15/03/2021 17:31:53 17 1
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GROUNDHOG DAY!
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15/03/2021 17:37:29 20 1
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How many more times did you post the exact same comment? I've read it 4 times so far already.
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15/03/2021 18:10:05 7 0
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Norway are not in the EU but have a very close relationship and pay them billions and follow a lot of their rules under the agreement...which I understand they are trying to change
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15/03/2021 18:33:16 11 0
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not you again! still copy and pasting?
15/03/2021 20:29:30 15 0
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No such thing as a European sovereign country inside the EU. EU laws, directives and regulations take precedence over laws of any member-state, therefore no EU member state can possibly be described as "sovereign." Get a dictionary, read and understand the meaning of "sovereign" before you cut-and-paste your nonsense again.
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15/03/2021 20:56:10 3 0
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Who mentioned Norway?
15/03/2021 21:21:05 7 1
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As i pointed out to your previous identical posts, the EU's Vaccine project was such a disaster that the EU 'Sovereign' states abandoned it, why Merkel, Maron, Ursula and the EU attacked the AZ vaccine - though the Germans retracted the original 'false news' when challenged on it.
16/03/2021 07:37:54 0 0
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How many times have you pasted your message above into this HYS? Exact same wording at least 6 times that I have seen so far.

You appear to have a problem.
16/03/2021 19:15:16 0 0
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Bore off
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15/03/2021 17:10:55 178 6
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My husband suffered a blood clot in November and was treated. I'm glad it was then and not after he had his vaccination, as we would never have known if it was caused by the vaccine or not.
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15/03/2021 17:14:10 192 9
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Your comment just goes to show how silly the EU are being, if vaccinations were being done last November he would have still had the clot, that's the point, the vaccine isn't causing clots, it's purely co-incidental,
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15/03/2021 17:07:45 21 9
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just saying
Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
as well so do not see the profit making vaccine being halted
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15/03/2021 17:14:23 4 1
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Quite probably terminally Ill elderly folk who would have passed away irrespective of vaccines stop the scaremongering please!
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15/03/2021 17:18:57 0 2
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wow i am pointing out the disgusting political stance of EU
the same argument you make could apply to the oxford vaccine
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15/03/2021 17:14:23 70 3
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Having my jab on Wednesday and looking forward to it. Recent news on concerns seem to be unproven and will impact people’s confidence. My view is, even if true (which hasn’t been proved) I would rather get a lower risk reaction to the vaccine than potential more severe reaction to the virus.
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15/03/2021 18:17:29 32 2
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You really really do not want to get that virus . Get it bad and its the closest you will come to death whilst being awake
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15/03/2021 17:00:25 780 76
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EU....banning Astra Zeneca because they can't get enough supply and are terrified that their respective populations will see through their incompetence.
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15/03/2021 17:14:24 22 45
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I think you mean various European sovereign countries rather than the EU.

Norway aren't in the EU btw, maybe challenge your own preconceptions from time to time.........
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15/03/2021 17:47:16 3 3
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Who said anything about Norway?
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15/03/2021 18:19:08 8 3
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Change the record mate because I think your needle is stuck.
15/03/2021 19:17:44 3 16
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Absolutely correct, by the number of down votes shows how many dim people we have in this country that don't even know who's in the EU but then xenophobic people couldn't careless there just all johnny foreigner to them.
15/03/2021 20:31:28 3 3
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No he doesn't , Draghi (former ECB boss , now unelected PM of Italy - an EU plant) asked the EU for permission to ban the export of AZ vaccine to Australia - facts, easily verified unless you only read the BBC - try Euronews, the BBC only reports on such stuff when they can't hide it any longer. EUrophiles R Us - is the BBC.
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15/03/2021 17:10:58 94 15
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Totally absurd that EU stops vaccinating. 40 cases in 30,000,000 is minuscule and not a problem. Maybe they don’t like the fact that WE developed it.
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15/03/2021 17:14:24 2 1
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I'd wager a bet that's fsirlyt similar to the usual ammount of cars of them

A quick Google says approx 100k People a year in the USA die from them
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15/03/2021 17:41:31 1 2
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In English?