Ministers frustrated with PM's 'mistakes' ahead of Covid second wave
15/03/2021 | news | politics | 5,852
Senior figures tell the BBC Boris Johnson should have been tougher in the autumn to prevent more deaths.
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If you are the PM in this type of situation you cannot win!
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15/03/2021 17:48:22 18 16
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I could give you hundreds of reasons but the biggest one is Johnson is responsible for the worst death rate in Europe and the fifth worst in the world - wake up to reality, you backed a loser!
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15/03/2021 17:42:44 2 5
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I know, how about an inane "hindsight" comment ?

I never tire of those.
15/03/2021 21:17:29 3 0
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You can if you listen and think. Johnson is an inveterate narcissist. He, like all of them, doesn't give a toss.
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15/03/2021 17:40:59 297 64
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Denial has become the default response from the Johnson Kakistocracy .... asymptotic to the truth.
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15/03/2021 17:50:51 36 50
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I don't think you know that word...
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15/03/2021 17:55:31 4 4
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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15/03/2021 17:57:09 19 3
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ONE event totally undermined the people of this country's unified approach in the effort and fight against this virus.
Dominic Cummings, and Boris' ludicrous defence of...
You're an idiot. As evidenced by your monicker. Removed
15/03/2021 19:16:24 5 0
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Thank you for 'kakistocracy', it's now part of my political lexicon.
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15/03/2021 17:41:08 854 124
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Cometh the hour, cometh the cover up.
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15/03/2021 17:45:30 114 631
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Why has the UK, with the most stringent of LD's ended up with almost the worst death rate.
Last March we literally shut people into often crowded living quarters, when many would have already been infected, and did the same in January.
Given that most transmissions happen in the home, could it be as simple as that.
It would explain why countries & states that didn't LD, have done better.
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I remember a TV report from a New York hospital and a Dr. saying that all the patients admitted after LD, came from the tenements and questioning the wisdom of what they'd done, and that they’d seen no key workers at all
Ironic when they're the ones who are supposed to be taking all the risks
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2020/05/07/most-new-covid-19-patients-in-ny-not-working-older-survey/
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15/03/2021 17:58:08 48 16
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Bojo never has taken things seriously. He has no conscience about the damage he’s done.
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15/03/2021 18:11:29 12 4
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Cometh the idiots on HYS
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15/03/2021 17:41:09 8 8
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No 5hit sherlock.
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15/03/2021 17:41:14 321 69
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Yet another Boris Blunder.
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15/03/2021 17:44:33 128 299
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Yep, wish we where like the EU ,, Mr and Mrs No jabs...Lol
15/03/2021 19:09:19 10 3
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But that vacvine decision was a game changer for UK ??
15/03/2021 19:12:18 8 9
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Is there any point in having comments when the pattern of posts clearly indicate a politically prejudiced sourcepoint ?
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15/03/2021 17:41:20 1219 74
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Pity ministers were not so ready to speak up a year ago. Just sounds like they are trying to distance themselves from Johnson now.
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15/03/2021 17:51:07 897 237
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Hasn't Boris spent his entire life in a state of denial?
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15/03/2021 17:55:51 17 166
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Haha, Boris is the chosen one by most of the nation, the few keep on whinging.
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15/03/2021 18:06:20 151 15
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12 mths today we arrived back in UK from Australia and could not believe how lax it was at Heathrow. At Singapore there were ir cameras, everyone wore masks.
At Lhr, we were crowded on to the shuttle, no distancing.
Then at security they were more interested in our Duty Free that the possibility of us bringing Covid into the UK.
Patel and Shapps you were hopeless then and not much has altered
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15/03/2021 18:06:31 107 7
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Too true. Also why are they speaking “off the record”? If their concerns were/are genuine then ‘own’ them. What are you scared of?
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15/03/2021 18:22:53 11 2
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Sure that’s true, but at that time there was a Gang of Four circumventing the proper process of government. The voices of those who were on the fringes weren’t heard with any chance of having any significant effect.
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15/03/2021 18:24:42 6 0
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I think it is probable some did.
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15/03/2021 18:25:07 19 2
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Just amazed it has taken over 12 months of bundling for them to come to this realisation.

Mind boggles how long it will take his loyal yet deluded followers (as he would put it) will realise? I supposed assuming the ostrich persona is always an option for them.

"Bit of a pickle Mr Mannwearing, "but we totally believe in you!" said Coporal Jones.
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15/03/2021 18:31:47 0 0
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Do you blame them.
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15/03/2021 18:35:35 9 3
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PM eq denial + Lies
15/03/2021 18:18:41 0 0
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Who wouldn't ?
15/03/2021 18:54:02 14 1
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Ministers couldn't speak up a year ago, because Johnson went on holiday for a fortnight ignoring the pandemic! A fact being airbrushed from history.
15/03/2021 18:57:23 4 1
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Complete nonsense.
They didn't speak out a year ago because they are talking now with the benefit of hindsight.
15/03/2021 18:52:20 0 1
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you are not being very fair; at least they had the courage to speak anonymously....morons
15/03/2021 19:17:25 6 0
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They're not speaking up now! It's "off the record" - no names. No responsibilty.
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15/03/2021 19:20:04 1 1
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27/04/20
“Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the Conservative backbench 1922 committee, said there was a limit to how long people would tolerate restrictions.
"If there is a question over whether something is necessary or not, I think we should err on the side of openness and trying to make sure that more people can get on with their lives and more people can get on with getting back to their jobs."
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15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
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highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
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15/03/2021 17:43:33 505 308
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Are you sure that every country is measuring deaths in the same way?
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15/03/2021 17:46:09 82 27
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That prize may go to the Countries quickest to refuse a perfectly good vaccine
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15/03/2021 17:47:13 84 34
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No it won't as deaths are arising in europe. Also everyone counts deaths differently. After all countries have started to live almost normal then we can compare.also us the public have spread the virus. Also this time last year the WHO and PHE were telling us that wasn't spread from person to person..even though I'm labour I not blaming the government
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15/03/2021 17:47:57 33 15
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Give it one more month and review.
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15/03/2021 17:50:00 35 25
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries

Sort by density and look at England's position.

This is no surprise.

Boris is still clueless but this is no surprise.
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15/03/2021 17:52:37 55 42
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I don't think the excuse that different countries measure covid death rates differently is valid. The excess death numbers above long term averages still show the UK in a very pool light..
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15/03/2021 17:53:41 16 15
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I doubt it.
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15/03/2021 17:54:27 48 13
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You need to look at excess deaths rather than deaths recorded as COVID deaths.
If you look at case fatality rates you could conclude that our NHS is useless compared to other countries. I don’t believe that to be the case and it shows what conclusions you can arrive at when data is record differently by each country.
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15/03/2021 17:55:20 28 3
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We are one of the fattest, most unhealthy nations in the world. We eat badly, don't exercise enough, smoke, drink and work long hours. None of these things will help with respiratory illnesses.
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15/03/2021 18:05:30 9 11
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Nonsense. Actually, more people died in 2003, and every year in British history before that, as a percentage of the population than died in 2020. Due you remember 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 ? Do you remember it was so terrible with so many people dying ?
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15/03/2021 18:16:12 5 2
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If you look at the deaths per million population you’re quite wrong, but that doesn’t suit your agenda does it!
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15/03/2021 18:17:27 2 2
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You mean the World?
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15/03/2021 18:18:58 10 3
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The deaths number is a red herring. You'll find very few 80+ year old with underlying health conditions in Africa because they all died well before they made it to that age.

The fact that we have had a high level of deaths in the UK is credit to the work of the NHS in treating people and raising the life expectancy. The countries with the best public health have the most deaths per cap.
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15/03/2021 18:20:38 7 1
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The UK doesn't have the highest death toll in Europe per capita at the moment (likely to not even be in the top 10 in a couple of weeks time with Montenegro, Hungary, Italy, Bulgaria, Macedonia and Slovakia all on track to overtake) and may not even have the highest overall death toll in the end despite testing a lot more than other country.
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15/03/2021 18:32:15 2 0
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I would give it a month or two as, sadly, a number of major EU countries are projected to go sailing past our total.
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15/03/2021 18:34:12 1 2
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Agreed, but he is following the course of our previous leaders:
May - Brexit
Cameron - Libya
Brown - Northern Rock
Blair - Afganistan and Iraq
Major - Bosnia
Thatcher - Selling off Public Housing stock
Callaghan - Winter of Discontent
Wilson - Norther Ireland
Heath - Miners' Strikes
Douglas-Hume - Generally Ignorant
MacMillan - Moral Decay of the Establishment
Eden - Suez

Bring Back Churchill!!!
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15/03/2021 18:41:44 3 0
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Highest obesity too
15/03/2021 18:46:32 0 0
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His legacy will have many low spots to it. Death rate, lack of . The list moral fibre, defence of incompetence and bullying. The list if complete would use more than the 400 characters allowed here.
15/03/2021 18:49:40 0 1
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And the NHS'
15/03/2021 18:31:15 2 0
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Boris chose a cabinet lacking in mental horse power. Great for running a Boy Scout Troop. Not so good running the country. Where are the big hitters? We need to survive this lightweight cabinet, covid and a colapsing economy. Our country is fighting on three fronts. Where do we go from here?
15/03/2021 18:54:15 0 0
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When every country records their deaths in the same way then you can compare. Until then you can't make comparisons
15/03/2021 18:58:00 0 1
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Wrong
Dan
15/03/2021 19:00:05 1 0
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Highest exaggerated Covid-19 death toll you must mean?
2020 had less deaths than non covid 2018.
15/03/2021 19:12:47 1 2
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Nearly the highest (per 100k population) in the World according to the WHO.
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15/03/2021 17:41:37 22 23
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Hindsight eh?
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No , common sense.
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15/03/2021 17:44:36 4 3
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No - following the best science.
It’s all well documented and was known at the time ... is there any reason you also ignored theses public-domain facts?
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15/03/2021 17:44:36 6 4
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Not hindsight, foresight. And had plenty of opportunity to see what other Govts were doing-effectively. Shows Johnsons lack of strength of chracter. Nanny no longer around to tell him what to do. A moral vacuum called Boris
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15/03/2021 17:42:57 1 1
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"Hindsight" comments are the perfect way of avoiding all scrutiny and difficult questions. It must be wonderful living in such a simple world......
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15/03/2021 17:42:06 10 14
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Former this, unnamed that.

Nothing to see here but click bait.
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If the press hate you, you're doing something right......
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Hindsight eh?
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No , common sense.
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15/03/2021 17:45:05 4 3
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Sadly in short supply with this government! Eat out to help out, anybody?
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15/03/2021 17:42:32 294 72
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Hardly surprising this Government acts as it does. For them profits always are of greater importance than the lives of ordinary people !
idiot Removed
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15/03/2021 17:55:58 10 16
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You surely aren't daft enough to believe what you have just written. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest you are just trolling.
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15/03/2021 18:06:08 5 16
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So ordinary people don't profit from a healthy and vibrant economy - dopy thinking!!!
15/03/2021 20:34:38 2 6
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And your evidence is? Not the smears peddled by the guardian and the liebour party. Give us one single shred of evidence? 400 billion was spent protecting our vulnerable. And because they will not feed the scroungers in society with more money you people bleat away
15/03/2021 20:40:53 4 2
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Boris was just doing as he was told by his hero across the Atlantic. Raab backing it all the way. Hancock dithered all the way through so far.
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15/03/2021 17:42:33 10 25
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Ah yes the amazingly convenient Retrospectogram rolls out for the latest Group of experts.... yawn
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15/03/2021 17:46:59 7 4
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So YOU don’t like experts or exports ... Brexit in a nutshell.
It would have meant all the toffs at Cheltenham Races missing out. One couldn't do that, could one? Removed
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15/03/2021 17:44:34 0 1
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Bloody hell no! They must have their days out away from the riff raff
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15/03/2021 17:43:28 4 13
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If only Mrs Thatcher was handling this crisis.... heaven knows where we would be now!!

Mrs Thatcher or Johnson... there’s a question to ponder!!
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15/03/2021 17:45:31 10 7
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Mad Maggie was even worse
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15/03/2021 17:47:26 0 2
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Just another dig at a human being doing his very best. In these unprecedented times try not to make a dig just be thankful for what the government as done. This is a time not for judging a party not to your liking.
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15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
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highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
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Are you sure that every country is measuring deaths in the same way?
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15/03/2021 17:52:48 77 70
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"Are you sure that every country is measuring deaths in the same way?"

So 125,000 deaths is OK because we're measuring it "differently"?

Get a grip. We do have one of the highest death rates in the world, and nit picking about counting mechanisms won't change that.
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15/03/2021 17:54:56 44 38
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Very true. If you had covid 14 days ago and survived but died of something else.. Cause of death covid. Highly doubt this is the case in any other country.
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On all counts UK faired appallingly
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15/03/2021 17:55:45 15 11
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They aren't, but if you look at the measures of excess deaths country by country which are comparible, the UK still comes out very badly.
Correct

Belgium (nation with highest death toll per capita) counts every single death where covid is mentioned on the death cert

The uk only counts deaths within 28 days of a positive test

If the UK counted as Belgium dies then our official toll would be almost 150,000
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15/03/2021 17:58:21 6 1
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Tanzania, for starters, gave up counting in the early days!
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15/03/2021 18:06:02 2 4
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Like “people not breathing”?
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15/03/2021 18:12:40 4 12
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Do you keep a ready supply supply of straws suitable for clutching?
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15/03/2021 18:18:35 4 1
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We, the UK, probably have the greater percentage of cretins ignoring the rules!
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15/03/2021 18:28:28 2 1
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No they are not
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15/03/2021 18:32:48 2 3
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At last someone else is asking the question I have been asking, thank you.
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15/03/2021 18:34:44 0 0
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No. Italy has just revised its number to >100,000.
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15/03/2021 18:39:05 0 1
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the ones we should be comparing our society to, are
15/03/2021 19:02:24 0 0
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Agree, the eventual reports that come out will no doubt show that we have probably recorded every death within 28 days of someone who died in an accident as having died of covid? My family have experienced a elderly relative dying within 28 days of a positive test, but she had been already not eating due to dementia before contracting Covid and not showing any signs of Covid.
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15/03/2021 17:43:35 22 15
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Are they ready for the next one at Easter? They should be, schools back without vaccine programme complete, what could possibly go wrong? And yet they still think it's a good idea to open pubs soon?? clueless
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15/03/2021 18:01:59 4 4
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Agreed. The writing is on the wall. A kid mixes with 30 kids from different families at school, comes home and gives the virus to its parents who then share it with their colleagues at work. The over sixties have been innoculated; kids and their parents generally have not.
15/03/2021 18:58:48 2 1
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Pubs are safer than Supermarkets, checked in at door, no mask, no entry, compare that to overcrowded supermarkets and their unwillingness to enforce the use of face masks, makes them a far more dangerous place to visit.
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15/03/2021 17:43:37 11 44
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Ancient history move on..Bloody moaners.
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15/03/2021 17:46:26 16 6
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More died today of covid than 160 countries recorded EVER, yet you sneer move on. Disgrace
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15/03/2021 17:46:27 4 3
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It’s not ancient history to the loved ones of those who died because of mistakes made by the government
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125,000 can't move on.
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LOL - berxit is still a dumb tory scam.
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15/03/2021 17:53:15 3 2
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“Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” - Winston Churchill.
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15/03/2021 17:56:44 4 3
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No. Incompetents have no right to power. I'll keep on moaning until the bumbling buffoon has gone.
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15/03/2021 17:43:38 74 21
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Boris should have cancelled Christmas completely. It ws obvious at the time. All the "scientists", "academics", the BBC, Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, the Libdems, the SNP, the Welsh Government and the other mainstream media organisations, would all have supported him 100%.
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Except the general public who said they were going to do Christmas anyway.
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Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition? If that were 2 words it would be an oxymoron.
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Get Dominic on the blower, Boris. He'll know what to do.
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15/03/2021 17:49:57 1 2
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Peashooters are out these days !
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15/03/2021 17:43:58 785 236
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Eat out was a crazy idea but what do you expect from the clown Boris
Your 'clown' is trancing Labour in all the polls!

Do you have a UK vote??
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15/03/2021 17:54:07 37 21
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You didn't have to eat out. People could have used judgement deeper than thier wallets.
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15/03/2021 17:54:31 30 28
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That did not cause any cases the cases only started riding when people came back from holidays aboard. Back Feb 20 schools and parents were still sending their children skiing to Italy where thrre were cases . Also it was over here in Dec.19 .
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15/03/2021 18:07:27 18 27
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Nonsence post it was done to help by all means blame the PM if you have the evidence to back it up, my experience was establishments handled it appropriately. No doubt a lot on here would have left hospitality to carry on as normal for so many have been in denial throughout the pandemic
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15/03/2021 18:08:38 15 6
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Although the Eat Out scheme has been to shown to have made NO impact on the virus progression.
Just like my dentist, the restaurant I worked in was very good at cleaning and probably safer than most businesses.
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Ann
15/03/2021 18:11:45 10 1
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Did other countries which saw a second wave during winter also run the scheme ???
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15/03/2021 18:22:36 11 6
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Eat out to help out could not have made any significant difference. The R rate was below 1 all through August and only went above 1 in September, after eat out to help out was over.
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15/03/2021 18:23:26 3 2
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Maybe so but can you see the british public having willingly agreed to lockdown over the summer when numbers were falling. We all want out now and will have to accept a third wave later......
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15/03/2021 18:44:41 3 0
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To be fair to Johnson, Eat Out was Sunak's idea...and BJ , seeing an opportunity for pretty slogans and photo ops went along with it.
15/03/2021 19:17:32 2 0
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Eat Out to Peg Out.
15/03/2021 19:20:26 1 0
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Or the gready people out every meal
15/03/2021 19:20:16 0 0
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I think people who own food selling establishments probs have a different opinion.
He was u set pressure from the catering industry - as he is now.

He buckled - and caused death
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Big Hugs and Kisses
15/03/2021 19:52:44 0 1
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You didn’t have to eat out, it wasn’t compulsory!
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Should have just gone with herd immunity from the start.
Also very convenient that we've had 0 flu this year.
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We've had zero flu because of lockdown.

Brains?
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15/03/2021 17:56:52 1 2
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Absolutely - after all it is largely older people and those who are not well who have died. Why not 200,000 or 300,000, maybe half a million dying at home or in the street because of overwhelmed hospitals. Sounds like a plan. Why care about others? And no flu, was that a conspiracy then? 'They' just invented that in the past? Reduced flu down to lockdown maybe? Bit boring that.
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Nope.
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lessons learned hopefully don't listen to vested interests pushing for early lockdown release to raise revenue
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Yet another Boris Blunder.
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Yep, wish we where like the EU ,, Mr and Mrs No jabs...Lol
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Go get a clot
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The sort of leader you deserve judging from that comment
Are those 3 flies buzzing around all that shite your talking Removed
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15/03/2021 19:18:03 27 5
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One, unreported aspect of the EU's responce to vaccines, is that though the overall roll out is slow, by taking the step of EU wide programme rather then leaving it to individual countries (as usual), is that smaller poorer countries, that wouldn't have accessed the vaccine are getting some. Not bad.
15/03/2021 19:38:10 3 0
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Sometimes it takes one to know one.
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NEWSFLASH!!!!!......... we're not in the EU..........and nobody here has suggested that , so why bring up the comparison? I can let it go why can't you?
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It's were.
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Hahahahahaha
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Is that what it’s come dow to ? A verbal spat and competition with the eu ?
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AZ is a global company with UK/Sweden leadership, but somehow it is now the 'British' vaccine. If any country has concerns about the safety of the AZ vaccine, then surely that's up to them. But nationalistic Brits are making this about Brexit and any concerns are taken as a swipe against British Greatness. Seems UK is telling EU27 what to do - something they didn't like themselves as I remember.
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16/03/2021 16:00:09 0 0
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As opposed to Mr and Mrs No Jobs, not funny............?
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Hindsight eh?
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15/03/2021 17:44:36 4 3
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No - following the best science.
It’s all well documented and was known at the time ... is there any reason you also ignored theses public-domain facts?
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15/03/2021 17:41:37 22 23
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Hindsight eh?
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15/03/2021 17:44:36 6 4
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Not hindsight, foresight. And had plenty of opportunity to see what other Govts were doing-effectively. Shows Johnsons lack of strength of chracter. Nanny no longer around to tell him what to do. A moral vacuum called Boris
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15/03/2021 17:44:42 9 10
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Chaos reigns supreme, none of the Westminster bubble seem to be capable of understanding anything real, they have strict orders to adhere to no matter what etc, etc.
Look at the policing fiasco, Kate the Duchess of Cambridge was their, allegedly unseen also unguarded??
15/03/2021 20:04:27 2 2
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Are you referring to the illegal gathering on Saturday?
And Kate was "their"?
How was this the fault of the Police? It was illegal, nothing less.
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Johnson is doing a good job ,once again on here Lab,Lib dems have nothing to moan about so now trying covid ,go and see if you can get a jab abroad ,you wont and you know it .
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125,000 dead .
Good job?
Worst recession.
Good job?
I hate to to think what a bad job is.
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15/03/2021 17:48:44 3 3
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World beating track and trace? A snip at a mere £37 billion - or more than £500 per person in the country. And let's not forget our world beating fatalities.
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Whatever your smoking stop
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A good job? Where? When? Ahh, do you mean the paper round he had as a kid?
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Am I missing something?

Why doesn't the Beeb release their names?

We all know about Sir Hindsight but let's have the others!
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15/03/2021 17:49:12 6 3
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Is that the Sir knighted by the Tories? And Boris is Corporal No Idea. I guess Boris will shortly become Lord Johnson of Barnard Castle as Cummings becomes Lord No Council Tax of Durham?
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15/03/2021 17:52:37 1 2
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Exactly. We also have Mr. It Cannot Happen Here, Mr. Lets Ignore people flighing in from all parts, Mr Wack-a-mole, Mr. World Beating Track and Trace, Mr. Head In The Sand, Mr Twickenham, Mr. I'm Feeling A Little Perculiar, Mr. Herd Immunity, Mr. Dom the Driving Instructor, Mr. We're Not Closing Schools, Mr. £4million of useless PPE, Mr. Jobs For The Boys, Mr. Care Homes for the infected.
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15/03/2021 17:56:32 0 1
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it is funny how people can say things with out naming names.....remind you of anyone ?
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15/03/2021 17:44:45 450 102
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the Tory govt only listens to money, donations via back door, cash for polices or titles.
NHS worth £3.50p because of scuttle Johnson not listening to the scientists he gave the NHS extra work.
An Idiot in charge of the country
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15/03/2021 17:58:52 400 57
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ONE event totally undermined the people of this country's unified approach in the effort and fight against this virus.
Dominic Cummings, and Boris' ludicrous defence of...
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15/03/2021 18:13:20 2 16
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What a stupid account name
An idiot writing mumbo jumbo. Removed
15/03/2021 18:51:06 5 4
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Please do not insult idiots, he his worse than that.
15/03/2021 20:19:35 1 2
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Wrong, he's made mistakes, then he is human, esp. considering how this emergency has developed with the variants. My view 7 out of 10 Boris.
15/03/2021 20:29:29 3 4
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And your evidence is? The fabrication of the guardian? The average nurses pay is 34k they have had on average a 12% pay rise. Hundreds of thousands of doctors and nurses sat on their backsides during the pandemic. Never seeing a covid patient. People with cancer and other illnesses abandoned by them out of self preservation. You lefties put them up on a pedestal when most of them did ZIP
15/03/2021 20:38:18 1 0
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This is someone who said that £300,000 was small money. Or something along those lines. But Nurses and doctors should be so grateful. This is not just the price Boris puts on the value of the NHS its also the price he puts on our lives as well.
Or a deluded idiot posting on here?? Removed
15/03/2021 21:18:59 0 0
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Tory? Erm capita anyone? Quantative easing.....?
15/03/2021 21:32:18 1 0
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And idiots who voted him in.
15/03/2021 21:50:58 0 0
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1% = £500M every single year, I agree they deserve more but once the pandemic is over we still need to be able to pay for it. Plus if the Nurses get more all the others who worked so hard will also demand a pay rise - Teachers / Police / Fire fighters etc.. without taking it from somewhere else when we are already running a deficit so the more we give in pay rises the less people we can employ!
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15/03/2021 17:44:52 118 44
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Come one, we only elected him to get us through Brexit. He's barely equipped to do that, never mind navigate us through a worldwide pandemic.
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We ?
15/03/2021 18:45:22 14 0
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Who's we , certainly not me
15/03/2021 18:51:29 10 0
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Thanks idiots.
15/03/2021 19:16:22 6 0
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And he has made a mess of that, rushed his " deal" and is now trying to ignore bits of it which he signed as an international agreement
15/03/2021 19:22:59 3 1
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We have not even begun to see the impact of Brexit yet so he has not managed to navigate through that.
15/03/2021 19:47:31 3 1
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It's called the "Perfect Storm", Brexit and Covid, goodby Britain.
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15/03/2021 17:42:10 19 18
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No , common sense.
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15/03/2021 17:45:05 4 3
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Sadly in short supply with this government! Eat out to help out, anybody?
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15/03/2021 17:45:07 674 115
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Bluster bluster bumble bumble lie lie. Sound like anyone we know?
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The toff Starmer.
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Blair??
15/03/2021 18:49:34 8 1
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Britain Trump. "They call him Britain Trump over there."
15/03/2021 18:52:25 3 13
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Keir Starmer.
15/03/2021 19:00:07 1 0
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phwah, dither, but, blah bal, no one I kow
15/03/2021 19:10:40 2 10
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Starmer!
15/03/2021 19:27:06 1 9
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Yep. Starmer, Corbyn, Abbot, McDonnell.... To name but a few...
15/03/2021 20:18:44 0 3
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Yep Starmer and Corbyn sound just like that
15/03/2021 20:28:41 0 0
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Yes! his photo is on my dart board.
15/03/2021 21:23:50 0 0
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Yes, you.
16/03/2021 06:46:01 0 0
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Corbyn ?
16/03/2021 08:42:45 0 0
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The Eton schoolboy, Johnson??
16/03/2021 09:15:22 0 0
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Yes hindsight Starmer!
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15/03/2021 17:45:28 622 112
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You can sum up Johnson’s leadership by the word denial. Why have responsibility and a plan when you can trigger the usual with a slogan? A disgrace to the office
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Denial of a proper pay rise for those who saved his life.
Meanwhile, Dominic gets a 40% pay rise.
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15/03/2021 18:04:28 26 5
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Indeed. Still, at least Carrie got the baby shower, eh? And Dido got Cheltenham.
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15/03/2021 18:07:51 5 52
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This cold virus was endemic by the autumn and since it posed no threat to more than 99% of the population, lockdowns were a stupid idea anyway.
Targeted shielding of those most vulnerable was the sensible option, whilst allowing collective immunity to build up in the rest of society.
15/03/2021 18:45:43 17 6
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PM equals Lies and denial . Its a Tory constant
15/03/2021 18:52:41 5 4
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but people still think he is doing a wonderful job.
15/03/2021 19:15:36 0 0
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did you mean "office" or "orifice"?
15/03/2021 20:45:42 1 0
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Still got all that taxpayers money to distribute to his mates
15/03/2021 21:04:30 1 0
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Try 'Theft'.
15/03/2021 21:26:31 0 0
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A massive prat.
15/03/2021 22:29:55 2 0
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Might have been handy if he'd bothered to attend the first five Cobra meetings. Who knows he might have had some inclination as to the gravity of COVID and the disaster that lay ahead. An absolute disgrace.
Pjt
16/03/2021 17:19:54 0 0
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I think LIAR is more appropriate
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15/03/2021 17:41:08 854 124
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Cometh the hour, cometh the cover up.
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15/03/2021 17:45:30 114 631
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Why has the UK, with the most stringent of LD's ended up with almost the worst death rate.
Last March we literally shut people into often crowded living quarters, when many would have already been infected, and did the same in January.
Given that most transmissions happen in the home, could it be as simple as that.
It would explain why countries & states that didn't LD, have done better.
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no. next?
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15/03/2021 17:55:47 43 6
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Like Australia and new Zealand you mean??????!!!!!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:56:25 45 47
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Because Covid is a notifiable disease all deaths with a positive covid test are counted as a covid death, irrespective of what actually killed the patient.
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15/03/2021 17:57:53 14 11
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who have done better?
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15/03/2021 17:58:16 36 9
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It hasnt, belgium and the Czech republic have higher death rates. The uk has the highest number of deaths which.is not.the death rate.

The uk death rate is 184, belgium is.anout 194, czech republic is about 190.
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15/03/2021 18:04:16 36 3
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Do you live in a bubble? What makes you think the UK had the most stringent lockdown? Look at France, Spain, Italy, New Zealand, Australia.
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15/03/2021 18:17:48 3 0
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Really? Which countries would they be?
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15/03/2021 18:20:50 12 1
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What planet are you on,
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15/03/2021 18:22:55 9 4
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9 out of 10 deaths globally are obese - we are one of the most obese nations on the planet - hence the death rate!
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15/03/2021 18:22:56 13 3
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No we simply allowed people to travel all over the world come back without restrictions no track & trace but the worst aspect was that we allowed employers to decide what was essential work.It was workers coming back into the home that brought the virus with them. Those workers that brought the virus home were the poorest paid that's why COVID killed the poorest people
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15/03/2021 18:23:24 14 4
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"Why has the UK, with the most stringent of LD's ended up with almost the worst death rate."

Stringent?

Incoherent scattergun responses designed around the skittish enthusiasms of swivel eyed Tory Boys.

The main intention was to enrich insiders - i.e. £35 billion and more directed away from the pros who could have made a difference

Stop listening to whiny uninformed mediocrities like L. Fox
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BOF
15/03/2021 18:25:33 9 6
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Cases increasing exponentially, then lockdown and cases quickly start to fall on 3 occasions thus far (April, November and January) which suggests that you are wrong does it not?
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15/03/2021 18:26:32 8 4
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Worst death rate in Europe explained....

1. Doctors adding Covid to Death Certificates without definitive facts..... circa 30-40,000

2. U.K. is the FAT & UnFit capital of Europe

3. U.K. is most anti-rule nation in Europe, people refused to follow rules & still aren’t.

4. Many lives were lost in early stages as NHS & world still learning how to treat patients.
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15/03/2021 18:34:07 2 2
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"Why has the UK, with the most stringent of LD's ended up with almost the worst death rate."

It hasn't. You cannot compare countries. They record differently and almost certainly inaccurately. For example Italy has recently admitted to >100,000 deaths.
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15/03/2021 18:40:36 2 5
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yes, we had LD's but the people of the uk refused to adhere to these strict rules. Hence the virus spreading. Take the sad death of Sarah Everard, people more interested in protesting in large numbers than worrying about the virus. Selfish comes to mind
15/03/2021 18:55:06 4 1
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Our lockdown s weren’t as stringent as some EU countries. Where you had to have a gov piece of paper to be able to go out to shop. They are also going though a second wave. Some even have curfews between 8pm and 8 in the morning. Can you imagine how we brits would have reacted to their stricken rules.
15/03/2021 18:57:19 2 2
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I guess a lot of people just ignored LD??? Might just be one reason.
15/03/2021 19:09:50 4 1
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because there is

More obesity,

We are a Global Hub - more International through travel than pretty much any other country - 180 million including 600,000 Chinese.

Because we have at least double the population density of other European nations and about 10 x the USA

Bad management of Covid with care homes

Open borders

Slow lockdowns

No planning - it was supposed to happen in the noughties
15/03/2021 19:15:31 3 1
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2 things. 1) people didn't take LD seriously enough. 2)neither did Boris and co. Too late implementing LD, too eager and too early lifting it. Longer LD 1 would probably have eliminated the need for LD2 or LD3 and given contact tracing a much better chance.
lak
15/03/2021 19:45:57 0 0
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Where do you reckon they’d go to after work or after a night out, if there wasn’t a lockdown? Back home, you genius.
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15/03/2021 17:43:28 4 13
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If only Mrs Thatcher was handling this crisis.... heaven knows where we would be now!!

Mrs Thatcher or Johnson... there’s a question to ponder!!
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15/03/2021 17:45:31 10 7
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Mad Maggie was even worse
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Lol
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Just because you like Furlough hand outs courtesy of the BoE printing press
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15/03/2021 17:45:34 460 60
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When Boris started talking about opening up for four days over Xmas, I couldn't believe it. Seemed utter madness.

We were too slow going into the first lock down, too slow going in to the second, and then he talked about effectively forgetting the whole thing over Xmas?

Thank goodness he finally saw sense at the last minute, albeit after half the population had spent money preparing for it!
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Madness it may have been, however it did get the newspaper headline "Boris saves Christmas". That was all that mattered.
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15/03/2021 18:04:08 3 18
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Thanks for the advice, oh Lord of All he Surveys and Font of All Knowledge!
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15/03/2021 18:04:42 6 19
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So lock downs are the answer eh! Far too simplistic. You seem to have a one dimensional view of everything. Thought about Population density, why different states in US did different things but got the same result, impact of climate - no thought not?
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15/03/2021 18:11:01 6 28
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We were too slow in locking up the SAGE lunatics. They are still out and about, trying to destroy our country.
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15/03/2021 18:13:50 5 11
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Another stupid account name
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15/03/2021 18:34:11 17 12
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Seems to be totally missing from the commentary so far - common sense - nobody HAD to Eat Out To Get Infected - nobody HAD to meet up for Christmas, and give Granny Covid.

The public had the information.
The public had the choice.
Yet once again they made the wrong decision, and now want to blame everyone but themselves.
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15/03/2021 18:37:05 2 2
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I think you need to look at the governments own data before making sweeping statements which have no foundation in fact.
15/03/2021 18:17:22 11 13
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And of course you are the expert!!
No one was forced to travel to family dinners etc, on your own head be it, just dont start blaming Boris for the spread, look closer to home.
15/03/2021 19:03:39 13 3
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It may have been but being very heavily pushed by the media. The Government was totally stuffed of what to do a Christmas. Also, even if they had not relaxed restrictions plenty in the population have already proved how stupid they are and would have just ignored it. Then what? The Police can't cope and if they had taken on the rule breakers would have been hung out in the wind.
15/03/2021 19:38:02 0 3
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Luv BORIS, just Luv Boris. It is all he wants. He is the most pathetic PM we have had. It Luv Boris, Oh Caligula from ancient Rome is the same.
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15/03/2021 20:08:46 1 2
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Too slow going into the second lockdown?!
I couldn’t disagree more. The problem was we went into lockdown far too quickly the second time. It would have been better to not have the second lockdown at all but just gradually increase restrictions as we went into winter, not have a 4 week lockdown and then open up in winter when respiratory viruses thrive.
15/03/2021 20:26:37 1 5
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So tell us all when did you get the evidence about the new variant and how infectious it was? He got the information on the Thursday and shut the country down on Friday. People were telling everyone that they were getting together with family, whether there was restrictions or not. And the ONS states are clear there was NO spike over Christmas. Another leftie distorting facts as usual
15/03/2021 20:35:13 2 0
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It took the opposition weeks to get the message over at PMQ. Each time he accused Starmer of trying to hold the economy back. Then when we all had some plans Boris did an emergency stop.
Rob
15/03/2021 20:48:02 3 0
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Doesn’t matter when open up viruses are here to stay
15/03/2021 20:48:32 2 1
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The deaths and the infection rates in the UK 23 March were lower than France, Spain and Italy when they locked down on the 9 March. It's not an excuse it's a fact which is never mentioned
15/03/2021 21:07:44 1 1
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I was similarly aghast as well as x thousand could attend a football match!!!
15/03/2021 21:29:45 0 0
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Only after he had killed many people.
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15/03/2021 17:45:41 459 92
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Had Bojo attended the first five Cobra meetings (24th Jan-19th Febr) he may have been better informed, instead he preferred his weekends away and shaking hands with everybody. I cannot understand how NHS England never considered the possibility that a virus may spread out of control (like SARS, Bird Flu. Noravirus) and never considered having a national plan of action??????????????????
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Don't get carried away, mate with those '?'s' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15/03/2021 17:48:18 34 7
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The NHS did but the Tories ditched it in 2010!
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15/03/2021 17:51:51 15 5
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Cummings was attending the Cobra meetings (while not on excursions to Barnard Castle) so he could brief Boris. Should we blame Cummings or the person who appointed him?
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15/03/2021 18:01:18 31 8
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I am willing to give Boris the benefit of the doubt for the first wave, it was a terrible new situation but the fact that the second wave which was worse than the first is unforgivable. And what is coming out about tory contracts with their mates is criminal.
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15/03/2021 18:04:18 15 2
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Search for SARS-CoV reports made in 2009. The scientific community were warning it could and would happen again. And guess what they were right. But with so many things to worry about (lack of funds and a government hell bent on austerity) what chance would a public health service have at planning, let alone budgetting, for a pandemic - even one predicted ELEVEN years before it happened.
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15/03/2021 18:29:43 5 16
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Bull shine..... even the head of the NHS didn’t attend the early meetings..... it was too early to know how big it was & meeting minutes indicate expectation to be as big as SARS.
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15/03/2021 18:31:46 1 9
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They obviously never had the benefit of your bad knowledge and experience on all matters pandemic.
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15/03/2021 18:34:45 8 0
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The Public Health system being hollowed out by austerity certainly didn’t help.
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15/03/2021 18:35:19 5 0
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Is this the NHS that was starved of funds, lost 10,000 beds, 40,000 nurses 5,000 doctors and had the Pandemic Action Group disbanded in 2018 by any chance?
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15/03/2021 18:42:09 3 2
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The NHS is not to blame.
15/03/2021 19:09:05 4 0
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I think you'll find, on a deeper search that they had, but that May or Johnson hed shut the team down to save money - Johnson certainly sacked the team planning for a pandemic response, again to save money. I suspect thats why he picked a cabinet of non entities, he could slash and burn, they being entirely brholding, would remain silent. Thus Priapic Bunter wins, donchta know, golly, etc
15/03/2021 19:19:57 0 0
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The risk of pandemic flu is in the UK risk register, and the London Resilience Forum risk register. One would have thought something would have been learnt from the 'table top' exercises that resulted from that. The LRF state it will be controlled by 'Normal Measures' whatever that means. Bearing in mind the 1918 flu killed 50 million worldwide that seems rather bland.
15/03/2021 19:56:32 1 0
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There used to be something called the Health Protection Agency which had such things in the remit. The HPA was disbanded some years ago and not replaced as far as I know. Why?
15/03/2021 20:23:31 0 3
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Rubbish. Your evidence is what exactly? It was made clear that these meetings were attended by the ministers in charge of the subject that was being discussed. His attendance WAS NOT NEEDED. Name one labour prime minister that attended every single cobra meeting? Cobra meetings take place all the time with only the people necessary being there. Your just a leftie opportunist distorting facts
15/03/2021 21:00:29 0 0
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There already was a plan of action, produced by the WHO during decades of study and consultation with experts around the globe. Tweaked and honed over the years and it was there, ready for implementation when a global pandemic finally struck last year. This plan specifically EXCLUDED the use of lockdowns...and what did everybody do?...........ignored it, panicked and opted for lockdowns...!!!
15/03/2021 21:05:07 0 0
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Actually they did. But decided not to spend the money - David Cameron he was warned
15/03/2021 22:02:04 0 0
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Would that be the bird flu the Neil Ferguson said would kill 200 million worldwide? It killed 282 between 2003 and 2009 and yet the government still hang on his every doom laden prophecy.
15/03/2021 22:15:21 0 0
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Government undertook plans were for an empedimic not a pandemic. The actions needed for a pandemic highlighted including serious supply chain disruptions - medical equipment and PPE.

https://www.gov.uk/government/emergency-preparation-reponse-and-recovery

Government used a risk based approach. Registered but did not progress actions due to other priorities. Updated plan last year due to covid!
16/03/2021 03:37:47 0 0
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'The report on Exercise Cygnus, the simulation of a fictitious influenza pandemic, warned that “the UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies, and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors.”' (2016). Binned by the scumbags.
16/03/2021 08:47:49 0 0
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We did consider having a national plan of action, about 3-4 years before Coronavirus hit, we got a bunch of the top virologists, epidemiologist and public health experts together, came up with a plan and submitted it to the government (you know the 'we are fed up of experts' gang) and they said, 'Nah too expensive'. So we ignored it.
16/03/2021 09:12:24 0 0
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Oh please.... he does have cabinet ministers going to it dummy. No one took interest until north Italy got it bad. PM does not go to every cobra meeting, he has staff to attend for him and report bk
16/03/2021 10:04:39 0 0
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Exercise Cygnus mean anything to you?
16/03/2021 11:14:30 0 0
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Boris does not read anything, his brief is in his trousers
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15/03/2021 17:45:49 31 21
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Some good and some very bad decisions made.

The Government should have played safe, taking a more cautious approach and not trusting expert advice 100%. Experts make mistakes like the rest of us so just err on the safe side.

Locking down earlier for the same duration would have saved 10,000s lives.
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15/03/2021 17:48:57 19 6
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But he sacked the first batch of scientists, had you forgotten ?
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15/03/2021 17:49:45 2 3
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...Are you saying that the govt shouldn't have followed expert advice? And therefore implying that they /did/ follow expert advice? 'Cos then I think we've been living in different places... This govt is allergic to sensible advice! Famously 'sick of experts'!
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15/03/2021 17:54:08 1 8
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I really don't see how you can claim that locking down earlier would have saved 10's of thousands of lives. Hindsight is wonderful & some of our less eminent (read nutty) historians will write a whole load of what if papers in the future. If you are prepared to accept much higher taxes that would have come after a longer shutdown then fine but a few extra deaths is not a good reason for that.
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15/03/2021 18:16:43 0 2
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Experts... what qualifies them as experts? They keep claiming that they had never heard of this virus until it was standing in their kitchen.
16/03/2021 05:45:34 0 0
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Care to share your proof of this simplistic assertion and perceived benefits thereof ?.Sounds like random numbers picked out of mid air .
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15/03/2021 17:45:57 517 61
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We still have Tory MPs demanding opening up again with no reference to the evidence that shows they were wrong before. This is not about being wise after the event - it was clear at the time.
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15/03/2021 18:06:55 379 71
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King John, Ethelred, Henry VI, Lord North, they must all be so glad Johnson came along. All now breathing that posthumous sigh of relief that they are no longer in the running for worst leadership these Isles have ever seen.
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15/03/2021 18:15:22 7 37
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Despite the overwhelming evidence that lockdowns don't suppress cold viruses, a lot of people were brainwashed into believing they were the only solution. A sad indictment of our duped society.
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15/03/2021 18:25:00 9 18
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The article says they asked 20 “leading politicians”. Didn’t even say what group they were a member of. Could have been 20 dodgy Labour MP’s for all we know... it’s not a great article...
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15/03/2021 18:25:37 3 3
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and if we are opening up it should be safest firstthat would put outdoor activities first and schools last
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15/03/2021 18:39:37 10 1
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So when would you open up? Never? We have the vaccines so let's get back to normal ASAP.
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15/03/2021 18:40:29 7 7
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So where is the evidence, I see post after post on here supporting lockdowns but have yet to see any of you post any scientific evidence to support them; why can’t you do that?
15/03/2021 18:58:01 8 1
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Just shows how stupid a lot of the Tory MPs are. Thank heavens most of them are just back benchers.
15/03/2021 19:29:16 6 0
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Worst PM of the 20th century was AJ Balfour, useless and unprincipled nephew of Lord Salisbury (Robert Cecil) hence the expression "Bob's your Uncle."
15/03/2021 20:19:51 0 1
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The floodgates (schools) are open. A few more taps won't make any difference to the infection rate but would help a lot of people
15/03/2021 21:27:26 0 0
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Its about making excuses, when you at the trough.
15/03/2021 21:59:00 3 2
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Absolutely none of the 'modelling' (guesswork) has been right so it isn't surprising that MPs are challenging the government. If any private company was as hopeless as Imperial College they would have gone bust - and yet some people still listen to them - the real covidiots!
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15/03/2021 17:43:58 785 236
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Eat out was a crazy idea but what do you expect from the clown Boris
Your 'clown' is trancing Labour in all the polls!

Do you have a UK vote??
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Oh you clever tory ??
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And BJ is trouncing the UK economy with Brexit
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just shows how gullible the general electorate are, to believe the lies and mistruths from this serial liar
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Shows how bad labour is !
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We are believing polls this week then?
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15/03/2021 18:07:02 26 4
bbc
Do you think only people with UK votes have freedom of speech? What;s the next step, Hong Kong, Myanmar?
447
15/03/2021 18:12:50 5 7
bbc
Come the election we'll see. Another two months of Boris blundering will see him well down the polls.
628
15/03/2021 18:24:04 3 1
bbc
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
In works in.your head, so it must be right
787
15/03/2021 18:33:54 1 0
bbc
Yes
866
15/03/2021 18:38:11 4 2
bbc
I would vote for a cat rather than any of this so called Government who I am proud not to have voted for. I have never voted Labour but I have never been more likely to than now. Political parties are not football teams, you can change your mind.
15/03/2021 18:19:29 1 0
bbc
Lovely - such concern.
15/03/2021 18:48:20 4 1
bbc
"They call him Britain Trump". Very apt.
15/03/2021 18:58:35 1 0
bbc
Here is a poll. see how many Ya's and Na's Bo jo's got
15/03/2021 18:59:08 0 0
bbc
Sadly that says more about Labour than it does about Boris . . .
15/03/2021 18:59:05 1 0
bbc
who are labour?
15/03/2021 19:07:05 1 1
bbc
wait and see if he makes next election needs to earn more money than job pays for his lifestyle covid contracts will help
JD
15/03/2021 19:03:57 2 0
bbc
What has poll ratings got to do with death rates? His bad decisions have cost lives, surely that is more important!
15/03/2021 19:05:05 0 0
bbc
Maybe trouncing Labour in Scotland where I live but not the SNP. Lets face it a dead parrot could trounce Labour these days.
15/03/2021 19:13:01 0 0
bbc
Trancing Labour?
Is this some kind of rave music, or maybe snake charming?
15/03/2021 19:18:43 1 0
bbc
Clown should apply to people who vote for him. Vaccine bounce won't last forever.
15/03/2021 19:47:38 0 0
bbc
That's neither here nor there for the purpose of the OP's comment. EOTHO had nothing to do with Labour. I would love to see Keir Starmer in a trance though.
15/03/2021 19:40:08 0 0
bbc
And don't you worry for the future when the clown presides over 125000 plus avoidable deaths and a multi-billion pound fiasco
15/03/2021 19:52:00 0 0
bbc
trancing???
15/03/2021 19:55:31 1 0
bbc
Just shows how sad the British electorate is at the moment. Vote for a jolly buffoon then still back him when he cocks everything up.
7
15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
bbc
highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
42
15/03/2021 17:46:09 82 27
bbc
That prize may go to the Countries quickest to refuse a perfectly good vaccine
18
15/03/2021 17:43:37 11 44
bbc
Ancient history move on..Bloody moaners.
43
15/03/2021 17:46:26 16 6
bbc
More died today of covid than 160 countries recorded EVER, yet you sneer move on. Disgrace
15/03/2021 22:04:02 1 1
bbc
Died with. Not of. Huge difference.
18
15/03/2021 17:43:37 11 44
bbc
Ancient history move on..Bloody moaners.
44
15/03/2021 17:46:27 4 3
bbc
It’s not ancient history to the loved ones of those who died because of mistakes made by the government
45
Lee
15/03/2021 17:46:30 18 14
bbc
The tough decisions made at the time weren't perfect?
Gosh
55
15/03/2021 17:47:53 21 5
bbc
That was understandable. Repeating those mistakes over and again was not.
62
15/03/2021 17:48:05 0 3
bbc
Tough my -
293
15/03/2021 17:47:55 1 1
bbc
Stop making excuses for gross incompetence! As he obviously cannot do the job, he needs to be gone!
46
15/03/2021 17:46:32 1197 252
bbc
Johnson is out of his depth, sadly he is surrounded by people also out of their depth
189
15/03/2021 17:56:25 867 110
bbc
by design since he sacked anyone that might challenge his decisions (or leadership) leaving nothing but low grade yes men and women. so naturally they are at least as out of their depth as he is.
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LH
15/03/2021 18:01:23 25 64
bbc
... and an 'Opposition' and 'Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition' clearly out of their depth!!
332
15/03/2021 18:05:42 28 67
bbc
Do you know what. Everyone on the planet are out of their depth. This pandemic is unprecedented in 100 years....
467
15/03/2021 18:13:51 59 9
bbc
Out of his depth in a puddle.
499
15/03/2021 18:16:07 54 7
bbc
Luv me says Boris, or I will sack you! So what have we got a Cabinet of Boris lovers!
515
15/03/2021 18:17:11 2 4
bbc
Go to it Pauly boy you sort em out fella.
564
15/03/2021 18:20:22 44 5
bbc
Let's face it Bojo the clown would be out of his depth in a very shallow puddle.
765
15/03/2021 18:32:30 17 3
bbc
Yup, they are all drowning and dragging us down with them.
948
15/03/2021 18:41:49 25 8
bbc
Yep. But come the next General Election people will vote him back in because A) they believe the lies and half-truths in the foreign and non-dom billionaire-owned media, and B) because he's that "lovable buffoon who makes us laugh" even though he's effectively bankrupted the UK.
15/03/2021 18:48:48 3 7
bbc
Unfortunately, the opposition is also out of their depth.
15/03/2021 18:51:27 0 8
bbc
I think it is fair to say everyone was out of their depth including the experts. I have watched enough interviews to know there was never one expert opinion at any point - they varied hugely. What is probably true, is that other countries with less 'expertise' took a more cautionary, less fatalistic approach in general, and because vaccines arrived relatively soon, this has worked better for them.
15/03/2021 18:55:50 0 5
bbc
Ask SammyValenteno he seems to know ..... could you do better????? I think not
15/03/2021 18:47:07 3 0
bbc
You mean the entire House of Commons?
15/03/2021 18:54:10 3 1
bbc
they have to stay in shallow waters otherwise their penises shrink and their wig float away
15/03/2021 19:05:32 8 0
bbc
That’s because they were chosen because they were willing to have their advisors vetted by, and reporting to, Cummings. Anyone with even a modicum of competence would have refused to be controlled by someone who was unelected.
15/03/2021 19:11:16 1 15
bbc
He did a better job of Brexit that May did...
GOM
15/03/2021 19:23:18 2 5
bbc
In this pandemic, ALL politicians are out of their depth.
15/03/2021 19:15:12 1 8
bbc
Including all the opposition parties who,like the media,are brilliant with hindsight.
15/03/2021 19:31:13 0 5
bbc
If you can do better, stand up and be counted. If not, better to stay silent than prove yourself to be less than he is.
15/03/2021 19:56:23 0 2
bbc
The sad thing is so is the opposition.
15/03/2021 20:26:41 6 1
bbc
In a world where your promotion prospects are linked more to your golf handicap than your technical ability or competence, what can you expect !
15/03/2021 20:52:45 0 7
bbc
Just think of what a disaster we avoided. Corbyn, Abott and all the clueless lefties would have had us tied to the failed EU PPE, Ventilator and vaccination purchasing schemes. They would have had us in an absolute disaster. We really dodged a bullet
pcw
15/03/2021 20:55:21 0 4
bbc
Could you have done better?
15/03/2021 21:19:21 2 0
bbc
Lets hope he can't swim, then.
15/03/2021 21:32:31 3 0
bbc
He winged it from day one. 125k deaths went badly wrong, vaccine gamble gone pretty well. It is all a game for the clown.
TC
15/03/2021 23:30:34 0 0
bbc
Johnson's choice of advisors was appalling: Imperial College computer technicians, and a bunch of third rate 'scientists' each of narrow specialism and collectively incapable of understanding the epidemic, its context, or consequences of recommendations they made to the even greater simpletons in Cabinet. No evidence of credible public health medicine presence.
15/03/2021 23:40:59 2 0
bbc
He is a complete charlatan with a sycophantic government with not a single scientist in their ranks who knew anything about viruses or pandemics. Kids in a kindergarten would have had more knowledge than this bunch. Outcome 130k deaths and a £450B loss which the taxpayer will have to pay for. The population should think seriously about who they vote for in future.
47
bbc
BBC. prove it. Thought not, what a tedious bunch you are. But keep going, keep digging commercialisation is comming. Removed
13
15/03/2021 17:42:33 10 25
bbc
Ah yes the amazingly convenient Retrospectogram rolls out for the latest Group of experts.... yawn
48
15/03/2021 17:46:59 7 4
bbc
So YOU don’t like experts or exports ... Brexit in a nutshell.
49
15/03/2021 17:47:08 18 25
bbc
Thank you Boris for all you have done, especially for taking us out of the EU. How many would have been waiting for vaccine if we were still in that bureaucratic nightmare??
88
15/03/2021 17:50:03 4 3
bbc
The question is how many would still be alive if Johnson acted earlier - more than 50,000.
124
15/03/2021 17:52:17 1 3
bbc
NONE - UK vaccination was and is in no where thanks to Brexit - why do YOU feel the need to LIE?
161
15/03/2021 17:54:55 1 3
bbc
You're thanking him for multiple mistakes, try and tell that to the thousands of people who have lost loved ones because of his dithering, defective PPE, useless contact tracing at the start, not closing borders, not giving the NHS £350,000 every week now we are out of the EU, defective ventilators, white elephant nightingale hospitals. Can't believe you are taken in by his constant, endless lies!
7
15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
bbc
highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
50
15/03/2021 17:47:13 84 34
bbc
No it won't as deaths are arising in europe. Also everyone counts deaths differently. After all countries have started to live almost normal then we can compare.also us the public have spread the virus. Also this time last year the WHO and PHE were telling us that wasn't spread from person to person..even though I'm labour I not blaming the government
15/03/2021 18:45:39 1 1
bbc
"Social media users are sharing a video with a caption that claims the World Health Organization (WHO) has said social distancing is not needed as COVID-19 cannot transmit from person to person. This is false." [Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-who-transmission-idUSKBN2492YC]

If you can't be bothered to check your facts why on earth should I take any notice of what you say?
51
15/03/2021 17:47:15 343 95
bbc
Johnson has and continues to totally destroy Britain and yet the sheeple continue to support the Tory Party. You couldn't make it up as no one would believe you.
101
15/03/2021 17:50:44 31 98
bbc
I wasn't aware there was a general election in the last 18 months.
15/03/2021 18:47:12 12 10
bbc
Because the alternatives at the last general election were SO much better.... yeah right ??
15/03/2021 18:31:10 13 28
bbc
Let's all vote for either Starma, Fianne Abbot with her grasp of maths would make a great Chancellor!
Then we can nationalise everything and go back to the days of strikes every day, power cuts etc.
Is that really what you want? Remember the huge debt they left the UK in after they were voted out?
And who the hell are the 48?
15/03/2021 19:02:37 0 3
bbc
Can you not just castigate Johnson without using the non-word?
15/03/2021 21:04:30 4 0
bbc
Hmm given your user name it seems obvious what your motives are with this statement.

Don’t think calling the other 52% sheeple is going to win them over do you ?

You do realise this is why Labour did so badly in the last general election don’t you, calling large parts of the electorate stupid does not really convince them to vote for you.
TC
16/03/2021 00:03:59 0 0
bbc
No extant party merits support. Better for like-minded decent people to make common cause over an interim set of social and economic principles and seek out intelligent, mature, well educated, and honest people to stand as independents. Oust career politicians and dynastic politicians (e.g. Kinnock and Blair offspring). Core economic plank: disavowal of neo-liberalism.
16/03/2021 21:34:25 0 0
bbc
You should have gone to spec savers - Guaranteed you have never done a hard days work in your life
52
15/03/2021 17:47:37 149 15
bbc
betrayal is in ithe air again, pollitical manouvering and backstabbing.....not the ides of March is it by any chance?
111
15/03/2021 17:51:11 69 15
bbc
Love it. Still some of the day left for Caesar Boris!
463
15/03/2021 18:13:41 9 0
bbc
Today is the Ides of March, isn't it? Well, here's hoping. Though who would we get instead, from the talented Tory party. Somehow, talk of backstabbing made me thing of Gove.
TC
16/03/2021 00:18:00 0 0
bbc
Why do you think ministers with no direct brief for health have been trotted out to make statements on behalf of government? It may appear to support collective Cabinet responsibility. More likely, it is Johnson's attempt to dilute blame. Politicians of his sort have an eye on history. Historians yet to be born should not be taken as fools. Johnson et al bear culpability through deep ignorance.
16/03/2021 05:01:36 0 0
bbc
No , probably not .
53
15/03/2021 17:47:43 211 60
bbc
What are lives when there's personal profit at stake ?

tory UK 2021.
136
15/03/2021 17:52:51 96 68
bbc
totally agree ....look at the EU countries stopping the use of the Astra Zeneca against WHO advice whilst their death tally is rising daily
28
15/03/2021 17:44:42 15 34
bbc
Johnson is doing a good job ,once again on here Lab,Lib dems have nothing to moan about so now trying covid ,go and see if you can get a jab abroad ,you wont and you know it .
54
15/03/2021 17:47:53 10 8
bbc
125,000 dead .
Good job?
Worst recession.
Good job?
I hate to to think what a bad job is.
15/03/2021 20:08:30 0 1
bbc
All countries are suffering, that's what Pandemics do.
Did you somehow think we would be thriving?
Try reading up on economics.
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Lee
15/03/2021 17:46:30 18 14
bbc
The tough decisions made at the time weren't perfect?
Gosh
55
15/03/2021 17:47:53 21 5
bbc
That was understandable. Repeating those mistakes over and again was not.
56
15/03/2021 17:47:53 5 7
bbc
It's great how no-one has to prove the restrictions have made any difference
15/03/2021 22:07:39 0 0
bbc
The U.K. infection rate exactly mirrors countries that haven’t had a lockdown. But it’s ‘too big to fail’. Or as Joseph Goebbels called it ‘big lie’. you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
7
15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
bbc
highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
57
15/03/2021 17:47:57 33 15
bbc
Give it one more month and review.
58
15/03/2021 17:48:01 16 19
bbc
Jeremy Corbyn would have been a better PM. The nation would have been inoculated and country nationalised by now. Unfortunately we have to put up with this inept , feckless, self serving man and his Tory ilk.
99
15/03/2021 17:50:38 3 5
bbc
You are joking, aren't you?
115
15/03/2021 17:51:19 0 3
bbc
Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
116
15/03/2021 17:51:21 2 1
bbc
Not sure about Corbyn, but anything better than this bunch of incompetents. They are very good at lining Tory pockets, it seems though
320
15/03/2021 17:49:46 0 2
bbc
Lol. Good one. It is important to maintain a sense of humour in such times as these.
15/03/2021 20:49:32 0 0
bbc
Comedy gold. Funniest comment I’ve read on here in ages.
59
15/03/2021 17:48:01 2 4
bbc
I would be really interested in the 2020 UK death level compared to the level of deaths on a 5 year average - that would be the most accurate number of extra deaths due to Covid. Who knows whether the delay in tackling the second wave cost extra deaths? The only thing that will stop significant extra deaths is the full rollout of the vaccines.
60
15/03/2021 17:48:02 11 9
bbc
Is this the same government that badgered Boris and the health secretary to ease restrictions quickly after every lockdown? Bunch of hypocrites.
100
15/03/2021 17:50:41 2 4
bbc
Not the same people...
455
15/03/2021 18:13:15 1 1
bbc
every lockdown... this is the second so there has been one previous. At the end of the day, Bojo is the captain of the ship. Maybe if he had an ounce of intelligence instead of relying on soundbites and media freindly jestures which are later found to be misguided or false.
38
15/03/2021 17:45:41 459 92
bbc
Had Bojo attended the first five Cobra meetings (24th Jan-19th Febr) he may have been better informed, instead he preferred his weekends away and shaking hands with everybody. I cannot understand how NHS England never considered the possibility that a virus may spread out of control (like SARS, Bird Flu. Noravirus) and never considered having a national plan of action??????????????????
61
15/03/2021 17:48:02 114 122
bbc
Don't get carried away, mate with those '?'s' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
188
15/03/2021 17:56:19 0 7
bbc
great comeback lol XD
15/03/2021 19:07:09 5 0
bbc
01st March 2020: Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom says that the virus is likely to “spread a bit more” in the UK.

03rd March 2020: Johnson tells country we are “very, very well-prepared”
-Scientists advise Government to advise public not to shake hands.
-“I’m shaking hands continuously”… Boris Johnson
15/03/2021 20:32:34 1 0
bbc
Help we have a ? and ! pandemic just starting. Hope its not contagious!
15/03/2021 21:31:37 0 0
bbc
Why not!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
16/03/2021 11:15:06 0 0
bbc
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!
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Lee
15/03/2021 17:46:30 18 14
bbc
The tough decisions made at the time weren't perfect?
Gosh
62
15/03/2021 17:48:05 0 3
bbc
Tough my -
38
15/03/2021 17:45:41 459 92
bbc
Had Bojo attended the first five Cobra meetings (24th Jan-19th Febr) he may have been better informed, instead he preferred his weekends away and shaking hands with everybody. I cannot understand how NHS England never considered the possibility that a virus may spread out of control (like SARS, Bird Flu. Noravirus) and never considered having a national plan of action??????????????????
63
15/03/2021 17:48:18 34 7
bbc
The NHS did but the Tories ditched it in 2010!
1
15/03/2021 17:40:17 30 50
bbc
If you are the PM in this type of situation you cannot win!
64
15/03/2021 17:48:22 18 16
bbc
I could give you hundreds of reasons but the biggest one is Johnson is responsible for the worst death rate in Europe and the fifth worst in the world - wake up to reality, you backed a loser!
16/03/2021 08:49:00 0 1
bbc
Coz country is full of fatties and people think rules apply to someone else. Derrr
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Ann
15/03/2021 17:48:30 166 19
bbc
This report doesn’t make sense if the minister’s are not named . Who said this ?? Why are they hiding if they think that they are right.
89
15/03/2021 17:50:05 206 14
bbc
Because they are too cowardly to face their party constituency members
184
15/03/2021 17:55:58 7 15
bbc
its because the news made it up.
280
15/03/2021 18:03:04 13 3
bbc
Because regardless of whether they're right or not, they would be fired from their ministerial position.
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LH
15/03/2021 18:05:16 5 7
bbc
Exactly!!!
15/03/2021 19:24:51 1 1
bbc
Because bozo will sack them if they don't worship the ground he stands on, and they the endless gravy train they all live off will stop . . . insecure doesn't even begin to cover it . . .
15/03/2021 20:09:13 2 4
bbc
It was yet another BBC anti-government hatchet job. “Off the record” means not for public consumption, which is not the same thing as “unattributed “. Reminds me of a certain recent royal “interview”, where wild, unattributed and unevidenced claims are presented as “facts” by the BBC.
15/03/2021 20:39:12 3 6
bbc
Because it is as usual the remoaners who have done everything they could to undermine boris at every turn. Just like this news report. Its only intent has been to try to undermine the government. Talk about left wing bias at the BBC shocking really
15/03/2021 20:45:28 1 0
bbc
Ministers because they are breaking the rule of collective responsibility, others because they don’t want to lose their jobs.
66
15/03/2021 17:48:32 9 21
bbc
Here comes the Shudder Brigade. Shudder done this , shudder done that. Easiest job in the world.
91
15/03/2021 17:50:10 6 2
bbc
Except that the warnings were given at the time ... but ignored ??
405
15/03/2021 18:10:49 2 0
bbc
He wanted it... if he can't stand the heat. Clearly, none of them knew what they were doing...
No. Handling overall has been catastrophic. Judgement appalling.

Hindsight irrelevant.
36
15/03/2021 17:45:31 10 7
bbc
Mad Maggie was even worse
67
15/03/2021 17:48:34 0 2
bbc
Lol
28
15/03/2021 17:44:42 15 34
bbc
Johnson is doing a good job ,once again on here Lab,Lib dems have nothing to moan about so now trying covid ,go and see if you can get a jab abroad ,you wont and you know it .
68
15/03/2021 17:48:44 3 3
bbc
World beating track and trace? A snip at a mere £37 billion - or more than £500 per person in the country. And let's not forget our world beating fatalities.
22
15/03/2021 17:44:15 4 32
bbc
Should have just gone with herd immunity from the start.
Also very convenient that we've had 0 flu this year.
69
15/03/2021 17:48:54 8 5
bbc
We've had zero flu because of lockdown.

Brains?
114
15/03/2021 17:51:18 4 3
bbc
So 0 flu due to lockdown but not 0 Covid ? Do you have a brain ?
15/03/2021 19:55:48 0 2
bbc
What did you expect from someone who suggested Herd immunity?
39
15/03/2021 17:45:49 31 21
bbc
Some good and some very bad decisions made.

The Government should have played safe, taking a more cautious approach and not trusting expert advice 100%. Experts make mistakes like the rest of us so just err on the safe side.

Locking down earlier for the same duration would have saved 10,000s lives.
70
15/03/2021 17:48:57 19 6
bbc
But he sacked the first batch of scientists, had you forgotten ?
225
15/03/2021 17:58:58 0 1
bbc
The Guardian well known for its Tory supporting views.
29
15/03/2021 17:44:43 22 21
bbc
Am I missing something?

Why doesn't the Beeb release their names?

We all know about Sir Hindsight but let's have the others!
72
15/03/2021 17:49:12 6 3
bbc
Is that the Sir knighted by the Tories? And Boris is Corporal No Idea. I guess Boris will shortly become Lord Johnson of Barnard Castle as Cummings becomes Lord No Council Tax of Durham?
73
15/03/2021 17:49:13 6 17
bbc
Hardly surprising that the BBC has come out against the goverment. It has been anti government for the past 12 monrths and showing its left wing attitude. Hindsight is a marvellous thing . The Government has done a good job in the circumstances and whatever the colour of the Party they all would have made mistakes
33
15/03/2021 17:45:07 674 115
bbc
Bluster bluster bumble bumble lie lie. Sound like anyone we know?
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15/03/2021 17:49:24 226 611
bbc
The toff Starmer.
222
15/03/2021 17:58:54 103 9
bbc
hmm human rights lawyer vs cheating, sacked hack - pretty clear who the bumbling liar is.
472
15/03/2021 18:14:25 59 8
bbc
Do you have any vacant rooms in cloud cuckoo land?
523
15/03/2021 18:17:31 91 9
bbc
Please explain how you can class him as a toff. Working- class lad made good by his own efforts.
684
15/03/2021 18:26:55 63 8
bbc
The working class self made man Starmer, can you say that about Boris, no, but we could say a lot worse.??
722
15/03/2021 18:29:40 8 47
bbc
Yes!
940
15/03/2021 18:41:19 74 10
bbc
Are you insane? Starmer isn’t a toff! Johnson is the biggest toff of them all. Educate yourself.
15/03/2021 18:19:56 23 5
bbc
He worries you ? LOL
15/03/2021 19:16:00 19 1
bbc
Johnson - father was a millionaire
Starmer - father was a toolmaker
15/03/2021 19:20:19 13 1
bbc
Toff. What a laugh. He did not have a privileged background
15/03/2021 20:29:49 4 1
bbc
Err, Starmer isn't running the country. At least some one has moved on from Corbyn as an excuse.
Oh dear I see the lefties are out in force tonight so balanced views occurring. Removed
15/03/2021 20:44:15 0 1
bbc
How dare you say that to our next prime minister
15/03/2021 20:47:04 3 0
bbc
What do you know about decency? By worshipping a proven liar who hides in fridges to avoid scrutiny you wouldn't understand if it hit you in the face.
15/03/2021 21:04:07 0 0
bbc
Oooh you class-warrior you.
15/03/2021 21:13:59 1 0
bbc
Toff? You mean Boris the clown. It is people like you that need to grow up.
15/03/2021 21:18:23 1 0
bbc
The toff that went to a state school? Whose dad worked in a factory?
You do know that it was Boris Johnson that attended Eton College, where all the real toffs go don't you?
15/03/2021 21:24:47 0 1
bbc
The idiot, Starmer, who can't make a decision. Sitting on the fence is his forté
Removed
15/03/2021 22:02:04 1 0
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Starmer is not a toff - look him up.
15/03/2021 22:14:43 0 0
bbc
Both of them
15/03/2021 22:18:58 1 0
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Starmers dad was a tool maker and his mum was a nurse.Hardly a toff.
16/03/2021 00:50:57 1 0
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Starmer wasn't in charge. Johnson was. What's to argue about?
16/03/2021 08:07:57 1 0
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Ah, deflection. The last resort of the truly desperate
16/03/2021 09:19:03 0 0
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No the R. Sole. Johnson.
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15/03/2021 17:49:25 6 9
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Watch out for the third wave after Clapham!
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15/03/2021 18:09:31 5 1
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That will probably spread amongst the police force, all of whom were stood shoulder to shoulder with their sticks at the ready. How come they only arrested four if they claim so many were breaking the restrictions? Now they want even more power but still no right of appeal.
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15/03/2021 17:49:27 7 3
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The majority of 650 MPs voted to introduce legislation that would de curtail civil liberty; I never agreed with any of it but to say the government has the powers on a plate and still managed to cock it up is astounding.
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15/03/2021 17:42:32 294 72
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Hardly surprising this Government acts as it does. For them profits always are of greater importance than the lives of ordinary people !
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idiot Removed
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15/03/2021 17:57:56 5 2
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I appreciate your reasoned argument.
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15/03/2021 18:01:44 6 3
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Given that we've a higher death rate than Germany and have budgeted 1000 times as much as them for test, track and trace it would seem pretty clear that he's not the idiot.
State funded, Left wing broadcaster produces yet another picture of head-in-hands PM under pressure. Do me a favour. Removed
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15/03/2021 17:55:14 2 2
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Not state funded. Not left-wing. So your post is simply fake news.
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15/03/2021 18:07:15 0 0
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Your Government controls this broadcaster. Why do you think so many opposing views are deleted from these boards?
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15/03/2021 17:44:52 118 44
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Come one, we only elected him to get us through Brexit. He's barely equipped to do that, never mind navigate us through a worldwide pandemic.
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15/03/2021 17:49:33 106 11
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We ?
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15/03/2021 18:30:06 16 1
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I didn't and never would vote for someone who only looks after himself and lies to the rest.
15/03/2021 18:47:36 6 0
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Yep the population gets the government it deserves/elects.
15/03/2021 19:17:01 0 6
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I d red for him to do much more and he is delivering all his prom ises despite C ovid.
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15/03/2021 17:49:37 61 19
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This isn't hindsight, it was painfully obvious from the start. From shaking everybodies hands(& getting it), denying masks had any impact, eat out to help out & schools are safe, we've been playing catch up & still aren't quite on top of it. That's how we got the highest covid deaths in Europe. Now refusing a decent pay rise or bonus for exhausted & traumatised NHS workers who've lost collegues.
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15/03/2021 17:52:07 27 45
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Belgium, home of the EU, has the highest death rate in Europe, far higher than the UK's. Get your facts right.
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15/03/2021 17:43:37 11 44
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Ancient history move on..Bloody moaners.
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15/03/2021 17:49:41 5 4
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125,000 can't move on.
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15/03/2021 17:45:49 31 21
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Some good and some very bad decisions made.

The Government should have played safe, taking a more cautious approach and not trusting expert advice 100%. Experts make mistakes like the rest of us so just err on the safe side.

Locking down earlier for the same duration would have saved 10,000s lives.
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15/03/2021 17:49:45 2 3
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...Are you saying that the govt shouldn't have followed expert advice? And therefore implying that they /did/ follow expert advice? 'Cos then I think we've been living in different places... This govt is allergic to sensible advice! Famously 'sick of experts'!
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15/03/2021 17:49:53 98 12
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Boris has spent his entire life in denial.
In his own fantasy land, of how he imagines the world to be, not how it actually is.
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15/03/2021 18:14:35 70 4
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Can't expect responsibility from people who lead consequence-free lives. I can't think of a worse person to be in a position of 'leadership'.
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15/03/2021 18:36:01 2 5
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Got the vaccination programme spot on though, didn't he?
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15/03/2021 17:41:08 854 124
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Cometh the hour, cometh the cover up.
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15/03/2021 17:49:56 9 51
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I remember a TV report from a New York hospital and a Dr. saying that all the patients admitted after LD, came from the tenements and questioning the wisdom of what they'd done, and that they’d seen no key workers at all
Ironic when they're the ones who are supposed to be taking all the risks
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2020/05/07/most-new-covid-19-patients-in-ny-not-working-older-survey/
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15/03/2021 17:43:43 6 12
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Get Dominic on the blower, Boris. He'll know what to do.
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15/03/2021 17:49:57 1 2
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Peashooters are out these days !
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15/03/2021 17:41:34 885 311
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highest death toll in europe will be johnsons legacy
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15/03/2021 17:50:00 35 25
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries

Sort by density and look at England's position.

This is no surprise.

Boris is still clueless but this is no surprise.
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15/03/2021 17:56:09 15 18
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Other than Britain is an Island, and should not be anywhere near 130,000 deaths. That is a shocking total. Government boasting about the vaccine programme, whilst brushing the number of deaths under the table.
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15/03/2021 17:50:03 95 9
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The problem is that he is stupid, and doesn't have an original thought in his body, he was merely parroting what his mate Dom was saying. The fact that you went to Eton and Oxford doesn't make you intelligent or truthful as he has proven many times.
15/03/2021 21:59:49 17 1
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He did a mickey mouse degree only open to ex public schoolboys as nowhere else does Classical Greek studies. Public schools love it as they can brag in their prospectus how many more pupils they got into Oxbridge. Once worked with an Oxford double first in classics, he was rather pompous and no genius. Johnson did not even get a first and the qualification is basically useless for the real world.
16/03/2021 05:03:35 0 0
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Which educational establishment are you a showcase for then ?
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15/03/2021 17:47:08 18 25
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Thank you Boris for all you have done, especially for taking us out of the EU. How many would have been waiting for vaccine if we were still in that bureaucratic nightmare??
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15/03/2021 17:50:03 4 3
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The question is how many would still be alive if Johnson acted earlier - more than 50,000.
15/03/2021 20:26:32 0 0
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I do love self proclaimed experts!!
Do you happen to have next weekends lottery numbers?
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Ann
15/03/2021 17:48:30 166 19
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This report doesn’t make sense if the minister’s are not named . Who said this ?? Why are they hiding if they think that they are right.
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15/03/2021 17:50:05 206 14
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Because they are too cowardly to face their party constituency members
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LH
15/03/2021 18:05:45 7 13
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Or, perhaps, they do NOT exist!!!
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15/03/2021 17:50:06 6 12
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Everyone’s an expert after the event. Let’s move forward, get everyone vaccinated and think about the freedoms to come. Would any other party have done better, I doubt it. Yes mistakes have been made but the vaccine roll out is moving at pace, it would not have been had we remained in the EU!
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15/03/2021 18:05:31 3 2
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Everyone was warning you, but your leaders and their 'experts' pretended that they knew better. Their day of reckoning isn't that far away.
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15/03/2021 17:48:32 9 21
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Here comes the Shudder Brigade. Shudder done this , shudder done that. Easiest job in the world.
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15/03/2021 17:50:10 6 2
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Except that the warnings were given at the time ... but ignored ??
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Ben
15/03/2021 17:50:14 25 7
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Fascinating how the government imposed some pretty lengthy and oppressive sacrifices our civil liberties yet still managed to help us achieve one of the highest death rates in the world. In other countries, it seems like strict restrictions (bad) = low death rate (good) OR lax restrictions (good) = high death rate (bad). We managed to achieve the bad bit of both!
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15/03/2021 18:41:49 3 0
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Timing is all.
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15/03/2021 17:50:22 3 4
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How can the EBC report this as 'news'. Only a buffoon or a liar will try to avoid the knowledge that Johnston's gung ho attitude has led to England being in the position of having the highest per capita death rate of all but a few states with tiny populations. You can blow your trumpets about saving the world with the Swedish vaccine which seems to be collecting a lot of worrying side effects
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15/03/2021 17:50:23 4 7
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The historian is a prophet looking backwards.
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15/03/2021 17:50:27 3 11
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dammed if he did, dammed if he didn't, overall he has done an excellent job, sure he's made mistakes along the way but so has just about every other leader or nation.
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15/03/2021 17:53:51 4 2
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Oh dear, have you not realised yet the lying clown will never change. He accepts no responsibility for anything despite saying he takes full responsibility.
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15/03/2021 17:55:31 0 2
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Since Johnson said he takes full responsibility for dealing with the pandemic he has admitted nothing when challenged, neither has any of his spineless brown noser Cabinet.
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15/03/2021 18:16:37 0 0
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Wrong he has performed the worst in Europe and 5th worst in the world purely by deaths alone.
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15/03/2021 17:50:27 3 9
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Every critic is correct with hindsight .Months of bleating about when we can get out of lockdown. Like asking Winston Churchill in 1942 when will the end of the war come? I suspect he would have given a very abrupt answer. We were in uncharted waters a year ago and we still are although there is a chink of light . Government between rock and hard place all the time
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15/03/2021 18:02:48 1 4
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It never occurred to you that an infectious disease had the potential to spread uncontrolled among the population despite the Black Death, The 1918 Influenza Pandemic, Small Pox, SAARs, Norovirus. What is clear is that your so-called experts didn't have a clue and were not therefore qualified to make the decisions that lead to so many thousands of deaths.
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15/03/2021 18:15:40 1 0
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They should have made better decisions then shouldn't they! They deserve every critisism coming to them, bunch of incompetent liers and you backed a loser!
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15/03/2021 17:50:31 2 6
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They are all unfit for purpose. Oh and you can add Sage with their totally ridiculous models to that list too. It took hundreds of years to defeat smallpox. Some of you seem to want lockdown for that long. We need to get out there.
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15/03/2021 17:50:34 265 70
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an utter disgrace, all those elderly sent back to care homes infected, if another country did that we would call it genocide, but never mind they all made a huge profit from this pandemic
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15/03/2021 17:52:32 128 175
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Martin, that decision was taken by the hospitals, not the government.
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15/03/2021 17:53:08 18 8
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This isn't publicised enough. Paid care homes to take basically seed patients that killed the rest.
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15/03/2021 17:54:08 26 46
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Kind of like the actual deliberate genocide committed by the labour party in Iraq. For which no one has been prosecuted.

Oh and Labour still consider Tony Blair one of the best leaders they ever had.
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15/03/2021 18:02:38 26 9
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That would be the hospitals who did that. They were asked to send back people who were healthy. You would think that they would have decided to test for Covid before making that decision but sadly not.
15/03/2021 18:45:15 5 2
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Agreed, but who put them in care homes in the first place. We are such a caring society, Not.
15/03/2021 19:06:10 0 0
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And if they had not there would have been equal numbers of other Covid victims piled in the morgue up because there was no room in the hospitals.
15/03/2021 19:14:43 0 0
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yes and you are right but at least their monies re passed to their kids, the RSPCA or the Government (same thing)
15/03/2021 19:36:20 0 4
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You do realise it was the NHS who sent them back not the government,clinical dicision.
15/03/2021 20:23:42 0 2
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Care homes had a ‘responsibility of care’ to their residents.
However they climbed over each other for the cash when they should have insisted on Covid tests for those being transferred.
Blame the care home owners..... nobody else.
15/03/2021 20:25:54 0 1
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Unfortunately, the testing at the time and even now is not good enough to stop people coming out of hospital unknowingly carrying covid .
And even then the elderly had to go somewhere.
15/03/2021 20:37:31 0 1
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Yes Nhs managers, Doctors and Nurses. Knowingly sent infected elderly people into care homes. Resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands. The government did not give instructions to managers, doctors and nurses to do this. They acted out of self preservat