Is F1 poised for a Mercedes-Red Bull battle?
14/03/2021 | sport | f1 | 420
Chief F1 writer Andrew Benson assesses three days of testing in Bahrain - and what it could tell us about the forthcoming season.
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14/03/2021 20:25:56 8 6
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Same thing each year. Mercedes not showing their full power
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14/03/2021 20:26:38 142 9
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Happens every pre season, Ferrari are really mixing it with the mercs this year, first race the mercs smash everyone. How many times have we heard that over the past 6 years
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14/03/2021 21:31:49 94 159
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The slightest mistake from Lewis and the F1 pundits and journalists endlessly repeat it and disgustingly the happiest to see Hamilton spin are BRITISH pundits and journalists. When it counts Lewis gets it together and shows his brilliance much to the despair of BRITISH pundits and journalists.

They are a disgrace to themselves, the sport and the UK.
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15/03/2021 09:03:42 6 0
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I don't remember a time when testing wasn't entirely misleading. The last time I recall a really dominant car in testing that proved to be dominant come the start of the season was Brawn and they had no sponsors so most suspected were running underweight.
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15/03/2021 12:38:46 0 0
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6.
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14/03/2021 20:41:55 2 0
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Since most of the aero packages will change , new tyres understood and parts refined. The times are fairly meaningless . Also with new regs just round the corner,the upgrades will come early before the focus moves on. Testing ,it's just that .
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14/03/2021 20:42:10 21 2
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Short answer.. No.
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15/03/2021 13:44:14 8 0
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Long Answer NNNNOOOOOOOOO
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CJR
14/03/2021 20:50:21 17 4
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Nope Mercedes are sandbagging once again, no one knows the trim, fuel loads, set up in these tests, no doubt Mercedes were just fine tuning.
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14/03/2021 20:50:40 8 9
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Yaaaaaaaaaawn.

No bigging up testing times changes the fact that Mercedes started developing their car half a season earlier than the rest (due to them having wrapped up the championship after about 10 races), have the fastest car by a mile and are sandbagging in testing.

They do this EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. They'll cruise again until the engine rules change. You've wasted an article and a HYS.
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14/03/2021 20:53:49 9 2
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A lot of effort to log in and post to tell us you don't care- thanks for your insight
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rob
14/03/2021 21:00:27 4 1
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You clearly give enough of one to have gone onto this article...
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14/03/2021 20:53:49 9 2
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A lot of effort to log in and post to tell us you don't care- thanks for your insight
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14/03/2021 20:53:53 2 2
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For some reason I hope the midfield of 2020 will be at the top this year.
Lets spice things up!
One thing is sure, everyone could be sandbagging right now.
Looking forward to the first race of the season.
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14/03/2021 20:55:12 1 2
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Mercedes had a difficult testing yes, but I still expect them to win the championship although red bull have clearly got a better car so it could be close.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:14:53 1 0
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its just testing, if Red Bull have better car in the season, they will win with Max WDC and teams WC thanks to Perez joining. But highly unlikely RB has better car for the season as there is no major rule change.
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14/03/2021 20:55:35 3 1
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What made 2020 season so exciting, new winners and new podiums, was the change to the calendar/venue order, so more if that please and less expensive aero, tyre management, or weird penalty decisions Please F1.
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14/03/2021 20:55:49 5 1
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If there is a God, yes. RIP Murray.
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14/03/2021 20:55:57 2 1
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'F1 testing: Could 2021 see Red Bull challenge Mercedes?'

Benson: specialist subject......'the bleeding obvious'

(with thanks to Basil Fawlty)
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14/03/2021 20:57:08 19 2
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This happens every year... most aggregiously in 2019 when several well respected pundits even went as far as suggesting Merc were midfield pace and then they obliterated everyone.
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14/03/2021 22:34:26 24 1
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The media have to drum up interest to get people to watch and keep them in a job
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rob
14/03/2021 21:00:27 4 1
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You clearly give enough of one to have gone onto this article...
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14/03/2021 21:02:05 2 1
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Hopefully Aston can sort themselves out before the season starts, would be good to see Seb doing well after the BS Ferrari put him through last season.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:12:28 2 1
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Highly unlikely, Sad to see how Seb is going to end his career, unless next year by some crazy swaps he ends up in a Merc.
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14/03/2021 21:03:19 4 6
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Here we go again, another year and the clueless Hamilton hating F1 media once again repeat the same mistakes they've been making year on year.

The slightest mishap from Lewis and they instantly start celebrating his demise, endlessly repeating he had a spin and counting their chickens way too early yet again.

I just wonder when they will tire of embarrassing themselves.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:11:29 1 0
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I think here its more of trying to hype up if other teams can challenge, but we all know the end result.
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14/03/2021 21:19:27 1 2
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lets hope he hasn't injured his knee
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14/03/2021 21:03:57 27 3
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Mercedes will cruise to another Championship this year, no matter how many articles try and hype up a title race.
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15/03/2021 13:21:12 8 3
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Mercedes is very good but boring, I really hope Ferrari or Honda will take them down...
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15/03/2021 15:04:36 1 0
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You’re right. And it is why I wont bother paying any money towards a sports channel designed to show me that.
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14/03/2021 21:04:35 129 3
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Wouldn't it be nice if it were 3 or 4 teams in the mix- instead we are supposed to be excited by the fact there 'might' be a challenge from one team.
When you read the new car press releases from teams such as Williams whos ambition was to 'move closer to the mid field' and Alpha Tauri whos ambition was to 'cement their place at the head of the midfield'-you know there's a competition issue in F1
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14/03/2021 21:44:11 118 82
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Honestly, you read the comments and articles and you would be forgiven for not realising we have the best driver in history embarking on an attempt to achieve the biggest ever feat in motorsporting history.

None of us will ever see another human let alone British man achieve what Lewis is on the brink of achieving but all you see from the media & trolls are prayers that someone else will stop it.
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15/03/2021 00:05:07 0 2
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or perhaps an ambition issue...
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15/03/2021 04:03:33 12 0
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I would certainly like to see more teams in with a realistic chance of winning F1 races - that is the reason why I find Motor GP races more entertaining.
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15/03/2021 10:04:48 1 0
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Well there are substantial regulation changes coming in 2022 so it's only sensible for the likes of Haas and Williams to focus on that. Plus for the first time the teams are operating under a cost cap and CFD restrictions this year which should close up the field.

Yes the lack of competition at the front is bad for the sport but some good steps have been taken to address it.
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15/03/2021 10:12:55 0 1
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Quite frankly the teams with ambitions to lead the mid-field are the embarrassment. They should have the ambitions to fight for the Championship even if technically it won't happen. If their focus is for mediocracy they are in the wrong job.
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15/03/2021 10:39:30 0 2
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It beggars belief that people still think its about how fast the car is . The driver is the one that keeps it on the track, and LH is by the far the best at this at the moment, MV is certainly a great contender and DR at Mclaren may prove interesting. At the end of the day a bad driver slows down the car, as SV has the last 2 seasons at Scuda. Testing is needed but no barometer for the season end
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Tim
15/03/2021 15:59:55 0 0
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Clearly there is a competition issue in F1, and it is a bit worse than when McLaren, Williams and Ferrari all dominated, but not for quite as long as Merc. 2010 is the only season I can remember with 3 or 4 teams vying for the title, though.

Williams got 0 points in 2020, and Alpha Tauri are a junior team. There was no golden age of F1 where teams like these might win the title.
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14/03/2021 21:06:35 3 1
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Mercedes sandbagging? It was only on the last day of testing in 2019 they raised the rear and the car handled better and as for smashing everyone from race one... I remember Seb's Ferrari winning 3 out of the first 6 races in 2017 and then 2018 it was 4 races before a Mercedes won a race.
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dan
14/03/2021 21:08:14 72 11
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Blimey people are naive.

Yep I'm sureeeee they'll be a close battle between Red Bull and Mercedes this year, just like there was in 2019 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And in 2018 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And 2017... and 2016.

It will be the same old boring story and the same outcome, Lewis is the GOAT and I'm a fan, but I WISH they'd given George the other seat
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14/03/2021 21:36:08 16 9
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But 2017 and 2018 was very close between Ferrari and Mercedes in pace.
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14/03/2021 21:42:13 2 0
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Agreed. At least McLaren had the two fastest drivers at the time Senna and Prost in their two cars. And Williams always tried to as well. This is more like later McLaren where Coultard was good at some tracks like Monaco and Silverstone, but never going to beat Hakinen over a season.
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15/03/2021 09:44:17 3 4
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It was far to dangerous to give Russel the other seat as it would have exposed the GOAT as nothing more than the man in the "right place at the right time".
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15/03/2021 11:26:36 2 5
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It hasn't been difficult for him to dominate in this era. Anyone in his car would as well.
Still couldn't lace the boots of Schumacher or Senna in their prime
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14/03/2021 21:09:49 35 6
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I find it very amusing that this article states "Only a fool takes times from testing as serious indications of actual competitiveness."

May I refer Andrew Benson to his and the rest of the F1 medias post testing headlines for the pass few years. The word irony does not quite capture it.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:10:24 20 3
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There was no major rule change, just like last few year come race weekend, Mercs will easily have the fastest, and Bottas cant touch Lewis in same car. Unless Honda has suddenly found a miracle formula with little change they are allowed, it will be LH 8th WDC.
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Well done sir Lewis .
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14/03/2021 21:03:19 4 6
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Here we go again, another year and the clueless Hamilton hating F1 media once again repeat the same mistakes they've been making year on year.

The slightest mishap from Lewis and they instantly start celebrating his demise, endlessly repeating he had a spin and counting their chickens way too early yet again.

I just wonder when they will tire of embarrassing themselves.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:11:29 1 0
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I think here its more of trying to hype up if other teams can challenge, but we all know the end result.
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14/03/2021 21:11:58 4 2
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No
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14/03/2021 21:02:05 2 1
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Hopefully Aston can sort themselves out before the season starts, would be good to see Seb doing well after the BS Ferrari put him through last season.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:12:28 2 1
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Highly unlikely, Sad to see how Seb is going to end his career, unless next year by some crazy swaps he ends up in a Merc.
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14/03/2021 21:20:19 0 0
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He should have taken their offer in 2017 rather than put his faith in Ferrari. Certainly would have given Lewis more to think about than Bottas has these past couple seasons.
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14/03/2021 21:12:32 13 6
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Another non-event article trying to hype up what is becoming one of the most boring and predictable sporting events every year.
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14/03/2021 20:55:12 1 2
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Mercedes had a difficult testing yes, but I still expect them to win the championship although red bull have clearly got a better car so it could be close.
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LS
14/03/2021 21:14:53 1 0
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its just testing, if Red Bull have better car in the season, they will win with Max WDC and teams WC thanks to Perez joining. But highly unlikely RB has better car for the season as there is no major rule change.
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14/03/2021 21:15:27 49 10
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Crickey, why try and big up something that won't happen?Even a semblance of competition would be a massive step forward for F1.No chance of that though. Rules the same,cars the same,results the same.Same old story Andrew -wake us all up when something interesting happens.
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14/03/2021 21:18:14 34 32
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yep...that just about sums up F1...boring, predictable and unentertaining.
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14/03/2021 21:15:30 5 3
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They don't know what they're talking about... yet again

For the last few years Ferrari have been "hiding their pace" - looks like it's Red Bull's turn
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14/03/2021 21:16:15 88 7
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Mercedes dominance has been so strong for seven years that the media have to exegarate any potential challenge to that dominance, no matter how small, just to have something to talk about.

We've seen and heard it all before, yet year after year has been a mind numbing Mercedes cake walk.

I fully expect Mercedes to walk it this year once again.
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14/03/2021 21:34:30 56 18
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Possibly, but have you forgotten that 2017 and 2018 they weren't dominant? Ferrari were similar in 17 and faster in 18.
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15/03/2021 08:33:07 0 2
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I think they could give the trophy in advance to Mercedes as reward for their past achievements and being so far ahead of anyone else
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15/03/2021 12:25:54 1 1
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Mercedes will probably be at the front again.

I don't think Ferrari had the faster car in any of the past 7 years but they have been close and as someone pointed with some rule bending or even breaking. Can you imagine if they won a championship then accused of breaking the rules. It would be much harder to be swept under the rug...
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14/03/2021 21:15:27 49 10
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Crickey, why try and big up something that won't happen?Even a semblance of competition would be a massive step forward for F1.No chance of that though. Rules the same,cars the same,results the same.Same old story Andrew -wake us all up when something interesting happens.
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14/03/2021 21:18:14 34 32
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yep...that just about sums up F1...boring, predictable and unentertaining.
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14/03/2021 23:50:05 10 0
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Feel free to leave any time.
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15/03/2021 08:36:50 2 0
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Better than watching men in shorts.
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14/03/2021 21:18:49 9 2
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Despite the usual garbage being written it must be said that Bahrain is not a representative track & we wont know the true pecking order till about race 4. Any analysis you see now is just mindless and meaningless speculation.

Merc were doing so well last year that they stopped development of the 2020 car and started work on the 2021 car very early so I think they're keeping their powder dry.
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14/03/2021 21:19:18 11 10
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Anything to stop Benson drooling over his love child LH is a welcome thing.............
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14/03/2021 21:03:19 4 6
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Here we go again, another year and the clueless Hamilton hating F1 media once again repeat the same mistakes they've been making year on year.

The slightest mishap from Lewis and they instantly start celebrating his demise, endlessly repeating he had a spin and counting their chickens way too early yet again.

I just wonder when they will tire of embarrassing themselves.
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14/03/2021 21:19:27 1 2
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lets hope he hasn't injured his knee
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14/03/2021 21:36:07 4 0
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@derailed I see the closet racist paid trolls have been mobilised.
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14/03/2021 21:19:41 20 4
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Deluded article, Mercedes to win constructors with 5 to spare and Lewis to get the WDC with 3 to go, be realistic Benson
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14/03/2021 21:20:11 6 3
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I can understand why people will be sceptical about anyone challenging Mercedes this year given the last BUT eventually Mercedes will get it wrong and whilst the changes to the floor and diffuser seem small how you carry out those changes can make a big difference . You also can't sandbag your long run run pace and RBR significantly for them were quicker than Mercedes .
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14/03/2021 21:26:45 3 2
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At last, another person willing to wait and see what happens. Neither Mercedes nor Lewis have a "God-given right" to the constructors or guaranteed 8th title. That has to be earned - and I've never understood fans of other teams blaming Mercedes for winning - look at the team/driver you support to up their game.
It could actually be a Red Bull year this year - and I'm a Lewis/Mercedes follower.
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14/03/2021 21:12:28 2 1
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Highly unlikely, Sad to see how Seb is going to end his career, unless next year by some crazy swaps he ends up in a Merc.
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14/03/2021 21:20:19 0 0
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He should have taken their offer in 2017 rather than put his faith in Ferrari. Certainly would have given Lewis more to think about than Bottas has these past couple seasons.
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14/03/2021 21:24:32 3 1
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Should be as close and exciting as last year
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14/03/2021 21:31:32 2 1
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If so they can hand the trophy over now.

The sporting years biggest non-event on the calendar
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14/03/2021 21:25:28 15 0
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Headline

After a truncated pre-season testing programme, cut in half by the pandemic, there is one tantalising question.

Is Formula 1 finalised poised for that longed-for straight fight between Mercedes and Red Bull, Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen?

Answer

In a word "No"

Having said that I don't know what 'finalised' means in this context...
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15/03/2021 09:12:13 0 0
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It says 'finally poised'; you misread it (or it's been edited to make sense!).
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14/03/2021 21:20:11 6 3
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I can understand why people will be sceptical about anyone challenging Mercedes this year given the last BUT eventually Mercedes will get it wrong and whilst the changes to the floor and diffuser seem small how you carry out those changes can make a big difference . You also can't sandbag your long run run pace and RBR significantly for them were quicker than Mercedes .
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14/03/2021 21:26:45 3 2
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At last, another person willing to wait and see what happens. Neither Mercedes nor Lewis have a "God-given right" to the constructors or guaranteed 8th title. That has to be earned - and I've never understood fans of other teams blaming Mercedes for winning - look at the team/driver you support to up their game.
It could actually be a Red Bull year this year - and I'm a Lewis/Mercedes follower.
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14/03/2021 21:27:32 4 8
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Red Bull and Verstappen dominating would be insufferable, so let's hope not.
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14/03/2021 21:28:34 1 1
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For sure Mercedes sandbag in testing (high fuel loads etc) but that car is so skittish just as the Red Bull was last year at this stage. They will resolve this but how fast?
Red Bull Honda are on it. This is the first time RBR has hit the ground running. Max will win the title this year. McLaren et al will cannibalize Mercedes’ points scoring opportunities in the first quarter of the season.
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14/03/2021 21:34:44 3 11
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Let me clarify, I think the title is in Max’s hands and I think he’s ready.
And, Lewis is great but he is not the GOAT. Would anyone place Nico or Jenson in the mix as GOAT? Well, they beat Lewis in the same car. My heart would always say Senna, but my head says Schumy. Frankly I am indifferent on the debate.
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14/03/2021 21:28:37 46 2
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We have this same article every year .... and then Merc run away with it anyway!
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14/03/2021 21:31:42 13 14
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Well last two years they did. However 2017 and 2018 they were up against a similar paced Ferrari. Maybe we're up for a 17/18 season which would be great.
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14/03/2021 23:19:00 9 4
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Have i lived a different 2017-2019 to some of you on here? I seem to remember Ferrari being extremely quick and competitive but throwing countless points away with driver errors, team mate collisions and silly strategy calls Aswell as cheating in 2019 thus messing up their 2020 car and any chance at a title charge. Not Mercedes fault they have their heads in the game and the best driver.
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14/03/2021 21:29:29 24 4
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Cars are too wide, too long, and there's not enough wheel to wheel action. Regarding this years "battle"...another LH championship unless Merc forget to put 4 wheels on his car. Roll on 2022!
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15/03/2021 15:57:39 3 2
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The Merc is that far ahead that my nan would still win with 3 wheels on it
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14/03/2021 21:30:26 20 0
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Not just the fact there's unlikely to be any real season long challenge from another team, the bookies don't even think there will be much of a challenge within Mercedes themselves........on Friday Bottas was 9/1 to be WC. Hamilton was 2/5 ON. Those odds tell a lot about the lack of competitiveness in F1
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15/03/2021 15:56:37 4 0
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Bookies dont tend to have many offdays either ... Leicester winning the EPL, Button's DWC or Greece winning the euros ... cant think of many more in last 2o yrs
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14/03/2021 21:31:28 8 9
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Clearly Mercedes have the quickest car by miles. Every year the go testing with full tanks, hard tyres, engine mode at minimum setting and everyone thinks other teams are closing the gap. Big surprise when worst driver in history of F1 Bottas goes fastest on Friday/Saturday than LH poodles round to pole. 2021 will be another yawn.
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14/03/2021 23:47:50 0 0
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Try and do some research, the mercedes wasn’t the fastest car at three g ps last year. Even if you want it to be true
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15/03/2021 00:09:08 0 0
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If it's going to be so boring, maybe you could not bother commenting on it this year?
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14/03/2021 21:24:32 3 1
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Should be as close and exciting as last year
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14/03/2021 21:31:32 2 1
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If so they can hand the trophy over now.

The sporting years biggest non-event on the calendar
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14/03/2021 21:45:08 0 0
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Watch the grass grow then.
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Bal
14/03/2021 21:28:37 46 2
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We have this same article every year .... and then Merc run away with it anyway!
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14/03/2021 21:31:42 13 14
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Well last two years they did. However 2017 and 2018 they were up against a similar paced Ferrari. Maybe we're up for a 17/18 season which would be great.
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14/03/2021 21:54:43 7 4
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Another one trying to re-write history.
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15/03/2021 11:51:53 1 0
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Ferrari may have had a faster car at points, but the Mercedes was more reliable, had better race strategies and their cars were more predictable on the limit. You can't win when your team messes up the strategy or your car is parked by the side of the road.

Mercedes have always had the best overall package in the hybrid era without taking drivers into comparison.
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14/03/2021 20:26:38 142 9
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Happens every pre season, Ferrari are really mixing it with the mercs this year, first race the mercs smash everyone. How many times have we heard that over the past 6 years
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14/03/2021 21:31:49 94 159
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The slightest mistake from Lewis and the F1 pundits and journalists endlessly repeat it and disgustingly the happiest to see Hamilton spin are BRITISH pundits and journalists. When it counts Lewis gets it together and shows his brilliance much to the despair of BRITISH pundits and journalists.

They are a disgrace to themselves, the sport and the UK.
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14/03/2021 22:48:20 56 0
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The journalist went to great pains in this article to highlight that the car was at fault and not Lewis. Andrew Benson generally angers the anti-Lewis commenters with his pro-Hamilton standpoint.

In fact I'd struggle to find anything you said from any reporting I've watched or read... perhaps you shouldn't read the tabloids if you want balanced journalism?
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14/03/2021 22:51:12 26 3
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Are they supposed to just ignore it then?
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14/03/2021 23:16:50 4 41
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Fantastically put!
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15/03/2021 04:45:42 20 19
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In fairness it's now exclusive to British press or "fans". The worst and hardest thing is knowing where dislike for a personality ends and racism begins. Because there's been far far FAR worse characters in F1 than Hamilton, but I can't remember a less popular driver. 2+2... I'm white and I see through it.
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15/03/2021 07:17:45 8 5
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I think what you're forgetting is that a lot of F1 fans who don't follow Lewis or Mercedes want to see someone else win the WDC / Constructors. Claims of sandbagging in the comments will be Red Bull / Ferrari fans hopeful Mercedes slipped up badly or FIA rule changes really hit Merc hard.
Personally, I want Mercedes solve the problems rather than have fake rules to block whoever does best in 2021.
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15/03/2021 08:02:36 16 3
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What utter rubbish
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15/03/2021 08:41:47 11 2
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What a cynical little person you are. You must be thd life & soul of any party you attend.
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15/03/2021 09:41:53 4 6
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How is that after Russel's one off showing? Hamilton is the champion of being in the right place at the right time nothing more.
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15/03/2021 12:59:51 0 4
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Hamilton is Bensons love child, I dont know what he will do when Hamilton retires from F1 ( Ha chief F1 writer my back side, from an organization that steals money from the public to watch there repeated programs )
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AI
15/03/2021 14:16:35 1 1
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Well said the racists on here and in the British media is disgusting
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15/03/2021 15:04:47 1 1
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Calm down, the article isn't saying that Lewis is a terrible driver, just that he spun (fact) and that it's uncharacteristic (fact).
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15/03/2021 18:09:01 0 1
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What's him being British got to do with it? Hamilton's perfectly fine, but he doesn't get me edge-of-my-seat-excited in the way Verstappen on a roll in the wet, or Russell's Merc race does. Just because I am British doesn't mean I have to wave the Hamilton flag; I support F1 drivers because something intangible they do excites and interests me, not because of where they were born.
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15/03/2021 21:57:23 0 0
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Yeah, it must be really difficult making it count when you've been in consistently the fastest car for your entire career. Even at McLaren they had a car which could win races. I appreciate you have to have the talent to claim that seat, and he does have talent. But bald Lewis Hamilton would drop England in a heart beat and become American.
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14/03/2021 21:34:17 38 6
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EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. ITS THE SAME STORY. WHEN WILL U EVER LEARN???
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14/03/2021 22:08:57 5 7
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Even in single-spec Formula 2 - someone eventually dominates a season, so what do you suggest? Ban Mercedes from competing? Ban Lewis from driving?
I see that the majority here from the comments hate to see Mercedes/Lewis winning but what exactly do you want in place? I see grumbling but no suggestions for an alternative.
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14/03/2021 21:16:15 88 7
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Mercedes dominance has been so strong for seven years that the media have to exegarate any potential challenge to that dominance, no matter how small, just to have something to talk about.

We've seen and heard it all before, yet year after year has been a mind numbing Mercedes cake walk.

I fully expect Mercedes to walk it this year once again.
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14/03/2021 21:34:30 56 18
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Possibly, but have you forgotten that 2017 and 2018 they weren't dominant? Ferrari were similar in 17 and faster in 18.
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14/03/2021 21:51:50 13 23
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2017
Mercedes GP wins - 12
Ferrari GP wins - 5

2018
Mercedes GP wins - 11
Ferrari GP wins - 6

I must not have the same rose tinted specs as you.
167
15/03/2021 07:28:43 15 3
bbc
You’re right, everyone forgets that Ferrari basically gave it away those two years
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15/03/2021 08:40:58 2 2
bbc
2018 was certainly Ferrari’s best chance of the turbo hybrid era. They had a solid package that was able to match and even edge Mercedes at certain circuits but the overall strength of their car was very much overhyped by the UK media. On balance, Mercedes had the stronger package across the season.
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15/03/2021 08:41:34 2 3
bbc
Additionally, people often point to Ferrari’s errors that year without taking into account that naturally errors are more commonplace when you are having to push harder to make up for a performance deficit.
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15/03/2021 09:02:56 7 1
bbc
Lol - 'Ferrari faster'

Through breaking the regulations which were (somehow) swept under the carpet (and suddenly nowhere)....
332
15/03/2021 15:01:03 1 1
bbc
Ferrari should be allowed to boost their engines because otherwise they can’t compete.
400
15/03/2021 19:23:35 0 0
bbc
Merc were sandbagging
412
15/03/2021 21:42:17 0 0
bbc
Yes, by cheating and bending the rules!!
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14/03/2021 21:34:32 44 15
bbc
For Christ's sake, I know the BBC couldn't be bothered to screen the Grand Prix anymore but for the licence fee could you have at least employed the services of an editor before publishing this? It's an embarrassment.
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15/03/2021 11:19:41 15 3
bbc
It's not a matter of the BBC not being bothered, they were massively outbid by Sky - who have hoovered up exclusive coverage in many other countries - and if they had tried to match the bid, they would have been eviscerated by a large section of the population for spending so much of the ever diminishing license fee on what remains a fairly niche sport.
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14/03/2021 21:28:34 1 1
bbc
For sure Mercedes sandbag in testing (high fuel loads etc) but that car is so skittish just as the Red Bull was last year at this stage. They will resolve this but how fast?
Red Bull Honda are on it. This is the first time RBR has hit the ground running. Max will win the title this year. McLaren et al will cannibalize Mercedes’ points scoring opportunities in the first quarter of the season.
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14/03/2021 21:34:44 3 11
bbc
Let me clarify, I think the title is in Max’s hands and I think he’s ready.
And, Lewis is great but he is not the GOAT. Would anyone place Nico or Jenson in the mix as GOAT? Well, they beat Lewis in the same car. My heart would always say Senna, but my head says Schumy. Frankly I am indifferent on the debate.
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14/03/2021 21:57:56 2 1
bbc
Dreaming.
No doubt about Max` ability...over the season RB won`t have the all round package to mount a serious challenge.
Hammy will be GOAT....8X DWC this season.
You talk about Senna, yes he was great....but got beaten by his team-mate.
36
14/03/2021 21:19:27 1 2
bbc
lets hope he hasn't injured his knee
56
14/03/2021 21:36:07 4 0
bbc
@derailed I see the closet racist paid trolls have been mobilised.
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dan
14/03/2021 21:08:14 72 11
bbc
Blimey people are naive.

Yep I'm sureeeee they'll be a close battle between Red Bull and Mercedes this year, just like there was in 2019 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And in 2018 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And 2017... and 2016.

It will be the same old boring story and the same outcome, Lewis is the GOAT and I'm a fan, but I WISH they'd given George the other seat
57
14/03/2021 21:36:08 16 9
bbc
But 2017 and 2018 was very close between Ferrari and Mercedes in pace.
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14/03/2021 21:36:35 7 2
bbc
I understand there is an element of ‘sandbagging’ during testing, but this time felt very different. A relatively low number of laps, no shakedown, and a car that didn’t seem to stick to the surface unless it was on the absolute softest compound.

Whereas Red Bull looked to be purring like a kitten.

The whole field looks to have shaken up and I can’t wait for the start
59
14/03/2021 21:38:02 3 1
bbc
From what I've seen the award for biggest tool on the grid certainly goes to Marzipan.

Does testing truly reflect what all the cars will bring to the first race? Who knows, but if it does it will be interesting.

Seeing Perez outclass (maybe not 100% of the time) the now green Merc was excellent!
21
dan
14/03/2021 21:08:14 72 11
bbc
Blimey people are naive.

Yep I'm sureeeee they'll be a close battle between Red Bull and Mercedes this year, just like there was in 2019 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And in 2018 when Mercedes pre season testing was poor. And 2017... and 2016.

It will be the same old boring story and the same outcome, Lewis is the GOAT and I'm a fan, but I WISH they'd given George the other seat
60
14/03/2021 21:42:13 2 0
bbc
Agreed. At least McLaren had the two fastest drivers at the time Senna and Prost in their two cars. And Williams always tried to as well. This is more like later McLaren where Coultard was good at some tracks like Monaco and Silverstone, but never going to beat Hakinen over a season.
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14/03/2021 21:04:35 129 3
bbc
Wouldn't it be nice if it were 3 or 4 teams in the mix- instead we are supposed to be excited by the fact there 'might' be a challenge from one team.
When you read the new car press releases from teams such as Williams whos ambition was to 'move closer to the mid field' and Alpha Tauri whos ambition was to 'cement their place at the head of the midfield'-you know there's a competition issue in F1
61
14/03/2021 21:44:11 118 82
bbc
Honestly, you read the comments and articles and you would be forgiven for not realising we have the best driver in history embarking on an attempt to achieve the biggest ever feat in motorsporting history.

None of us will ever see another human let alone British man achieve what Lewis is on the brink of achieving but all you see from the media & trolls are prayers that someone else will stop it.
70
14/03/2021 21:54:25 28 44
bbc
Could not care less, I shall be pleased and renew my F1 interest when Hammy has walked. The greatest? Debatable. Other great drivers won while not in the best car. Interesting? Hardly it’s now a Mercedes procession.
93
14/03/2021 22:33:03 6 1
bbc
I think a lot of drivers prefer to race for Monaco
96
14/03/2021 22:38:01 28 42
bbc
Anyone could have achieved the same as sHammy in that car. George Russell proved that, before he was knobbled.
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14/03/2021 23:31:56 31 31
bbc
I'm sure if you put verstappen, ricciardo, alonso, russell, leclerc or carlos sainz in a mercedes they would all be 7 time champions. Don't deny hamilton has had it easy with a teammate who's happy to be his sidekick
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15/03/2021 08:04:07 7 4
bbc
Hamilton has earned his place in the history books. There are many articles and comments in many languages to say that. This article is about cars testing pre-season, not any individual driver or team.

In any case, Hamilton constantly states that he is there for the challenge, so maybe this year he will get what he wishes for.
221
15/03/2021 09:13:21 3 1
bbc
Everybody would love to see a decent fight for the title. That hasn't happened since Nico Rosberg got his elbows out. Oddly the domination that the Merc has had for the last 7 years is exactly the dominance that Hamilton moaned repeatedly when Vettel/Red Bull did the same for 4 seasons. Suspect the view of Hamilton would be kinder if Merc employed teammates who would be allowed to challenge him.
264
15/03/2021 10:25:50 0 0
bbc
Because it’s boring. It doesn’t make watchable TV. It’s time for a change
280
15/03/2021 11:24:38 2 1
bbc
Hes the champion of the worst era in motorsport history. He has had no competition so forgive me for not gushing over him.
The sooner his dominance is over and forgotten about, the better for everyone.
362
15/03/2021 16:09:22 1 0
bbc
Because he is a racist tax avoiding person who should not be considered English, I am extremely patriotic yet despise him with a passion
396
15/03/2021 19:08:02 0 0
bbc
Wishing he retired last year rather than continue his self-righteous crusade whilst taking money from Russia, China, Azerbaijan, etc, etc.
399
15/03/2021 19:23:01 0 0
bbc
All about the merc, as russell proved last season.
49
14/03/2021 21:31:32 2 1
bbc
If so they can hand the trophy over now.

The sporting years biggest non-event on the calendar
62
14/03/2021 21:45:08 0 0
bbc
Watch the grass grow then.
63
14/03/2021 21:45:24 2 5
bbc
I suggested that Mercedes were 3 sec a lap faster than all the others in 2020 This was demonstrated to be the case after Hamilton got a penalty in one GP and had to put some effort in. Bottas doesn't count as he is slowest most rubbish driver ever. He tells us nothing and is not even a match for the slowest rookie.
135
15/03/2021 00:07:54 2 0
bbc
You're hardly even worth bothering for the comedy value as you keep using the same old jokes.
64
14/03/2021 21:46:58 1 4
bbc
Much closer championship coming soon. Not a two team battle either. Surprises in store for all the fans with total mix on the podiums. LH will welcome the coming fight after years of being alone at the front.
2021 will see Wolf step down, LH will not become champion but will get his 8th and last championship in 2022....in a Ferrari!
Fact or fiction....only time will tell.
65
14/03/2021 21:49:51 3 1
bbc
More clickbait, looking at the header.
In a word..."NO"....it won`t be Merc v Red Bull...it will be the Merc show with RB winning the odd race.
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14/03/2021 22:00:24 2 1
bbc
I disagree.

One of the main reasons Merc had it so easy last year was because Max had no backup in Albon and was always in a 2v1 battle. With Perez, that changes (hopefully) because he has the talent to be battling at the front
66
14/03/2021 21:50:09 7 1
bbc
Crystal Ball. Fiction. Testing has nothing to do with the coming season. It’s like comparing pre season friendlies in football with the actual season. There is no reason to believe as rules and cars not changed that much that it won’t be another Mercedes walkover.
53
14/03/2021 21:34:30 56 18
bbc
Possibly, but have you forgotten that 2017 and 2018 they weren't dominant? Ferrari were similar in 17 and faster in 18.
67
14/03/2021 21:51:50 13 23
bbc
2017
Mercedes GP wins - 12
Ferrari GP wins - 5

2018
Mercedes GP wins - 11
Ferrari GP wins - 6

I must not have the same rose tinted specs as you.
124
14/03/2021 23:49:44 21 2
bbc
Ah yes, results tell the entire story.
186
15/03/2021 08:11:00 15 1
bbc
such ignorance! Why do so many keep insisting the car driven by the most successful F1 driver must be the fastest when, very clearly, there were seasons Vettel had a faster car but threw away the chance to win?
271
15/03/2021 10:45:00 5 1
bbc
The drivers of the two vehicles are the reason the Mercs won more races than Ferrari in 2017 and 2018. If Hamilton had been driving for the Italians and Vettel for Mercedes, the wins would have been reversed. You should understand that. How many times did Vettel crash, or spin, or have a stinking qualifying. That's the reason the German no longer drives for Ferrari.
312
15/03/2021 13:34:42 1 3
bbc
lets be honest Ferrari only looked so close in 2018 because Bottas was awful in over half of races
371
15/03/2021 16:22:35 1 1
bbc
Keep crying. Unfortunately history exists and we can watch past races and what the majority of us see and understand is that in 2017 and 2018, Mercedes and Ferrari and very similar. Hamilton was the difference.
52
14/03/2021 21:34:17 38 6
bbc
EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. ITS THE SAME STORY. WHEN WILL U EVER LEARN???
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bbc
Removed
69
14/03/2021 21:54:10 5 8
bbc
The biggest surprise to me is why no one has snapped up Perez in the 10 years he has been available for a top drive. Oh and why is Bottas in any car? Surely even his manager/mentor Wolff must be embarrassed at him costing Mercedes £8M. Hardly exercising good judgement.
84
14/03/2021 22:10:38 3 0
bbc
Bottas has qualified on pole, and won races. Merc only need someone who can come second. Two top drivers in the same team causes problems.
105
14/03/2021 23:02:07 2 0
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Whereas your judgement has made you a keyboard warrior of little note and Toto the head of one of the most successful F1 race teams in history and a multi-millionaire to boot. But please enlighten us some more oh great one...
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14/03/2021 21:44:11 118 82
bbc
Honestly, you read the comments and articles and you would be forgiven for not realising we have the best driver in history embarking on an attempt to achieve the biggest ever feat in motorsporting history.

None of us will ever see another human let alone British man achieve what Lewis is on the brink of achieving but all you see from the media & trolls are prayers that someone else will stop it.
70
14/03/2021 21:54:25 28 44
bbc
Could not care less, I shall be pleased and renew my F1 interest when Hammy has walked. The greatest? Debatable. Other great drivers won while not in the best car. Interesting? Hardly it’s now a Mercedes procession.
195
15/03/2021 08:31:19 2 1
bbc
And yet, here you are reading all about it, lol
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15/03/2021 08:32:40 1 3
bbc
Hammy is the best.

Fell free to debate it all you want in your own mind.
323
15/03/2021 14:04:28 0 0
bbc
What a charlie
50
14/03/2021 21:31:42 13 14
bbc
Well last two years they did. However 2017 and 2018 they were up against a similar paced Ferrari. Maybe we're up for a 17/18 season which would be great.
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14/03/2021 21:54:43 7 4
bbc
Another one trying to re-write history.
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14/03/2021 23:52:16 2 2
bbc
Lol. Believe what you want if it helps.
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15/03/2021 16:24:27 0 0
bbc
Did you not watch those years? Vettel was ahead in both seasons by the halfway point until he fluffed both of them up. Try and re write it if you like but there is video evidence - unfortunately for you kid.
55
14/03/2021 21:34:44 3 11
bbc
Let me clarify, I think the title is in Max’s hands and I think he’s ready.
And, Lewis is great but he is not the GOAT. Would anyone place Nico or Jenson in the mix as GOAT? Well, they beat Lewis in the same car. My heart would always say Senna, but my head says Schumy. Frankly I am indifferent on the debate.
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14/03/2021 21:57:56 2 1
bbc
Dreaming.
No doubt about Max` ability...over the season RB won`t have the all round package to mount a serious challenge.
Hammy will be GOAT....8X DWC this season.
You talk about Senna, yes he was great....but got beaten by his team-mate.
73
14/03/2021 22:00:13 4 0
bbc
The Mercedes powered McLaren might be the biggest surprise. Red Bull usually a disappointment when the season starts.
65
14/03/2021 21:49:51 3 1
bbc
More clickbait, looking at the header.
In a word..."NO"....it won`t be Merc v Red Bull...it will be the Merc show with RB winning the odd race.
74
14/03/2021 22:00:24 2 1
bbc
I disagree.

One of the main reasons Merc had it so easy last year was because Max had no backup in Albon and was always in a 2v1 battle. With Perez, that changes (hopefully) because he has the talent to be battling at the front
75
14/03/2021 22:00:47 52 3
bbc
Usual sandbagging from Mercedes. Expect usual formation during season
76
14/03/2021 22:01:14 7 0
bbc
No seems to have commented on the impact of the sand. A little sand will soon ruin an engine so teams are probably running with old disposable engines or high performance air filters to keep the sand out but will restrict the air in the engine so cars may be down on power.
77
ISD
14/03/2021 22:04:58 1 0
bbc
Really could do with a challenge to Merc and closer racing.
78
14/03/2021 22:05:17 5 8
bbc
Literally no one cares
79
14/03/2021 22:07:13 9 0
bbc
You do.

Your input is most welcome.
78
14/03/2021 22:05:17 5 8
bbc
Literally no one cares
79
14/03/2021 22:07:13 9 0
bbc
You do.

Your input is most welcome.
80
14/03/2021 22:08:04 15 2
bbc
Roll on 2022 already
52
14/03/2021 21:34:17 38 6
bbc
EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. ITS THE SAME STORY. WHEN WILL U EVER LEARN???
81
14/03/2021 22:08:57 5 7
bbc
Even in single-spec Formula 2 - someone eventually dominates a season, so what do you suggest? Ban Mercedes from competing? Ban Lewis from driving?
I see that the majority here from the comments hate to see Mercedes/Lewis winning but what exactly do you want in place? I see grumbling but no suggestions for an alternative.
94
14/03/2021 22:33:13 8 0
bbc
?? im talking about media hyping up ferrari and red bull every year during testing, not whatever ur on about
82
14/03/2021 22:10:23 3 0
bbc
Mercedes apparent testing struggles followed by dominant performance at the first race - NAME A GREATER DUO!
83
14/03/2021 22:10:27 5 5
bbc
It'll be another boring procession this year like it has been for the past twenty years. Same ol cars winning. Formula1 is so boring now. The highlight package of a race is what...10 seconds....if that...The Americans own F1 now and have they improved it? Is it a better spectacle? Is it more exciting? I answer with three "No".
86
14/03/2021 22:16:08 1 1
bbc
I hope Extreme E delivers on excitement.
88
14/03/2021 22:17:44 1 0
bbc
The best car racing on tv is the Goodwood Revival.
69
14/03/2021 21:54:10 5 8
bbc
The biggest surprise to me is why no one has snapped up Perez in the 10 years he has been available for a top drive. Oh and why is Bottas in any car? Surely even his manager/mentor Wolff must be embarrassed at him costing Mercedes £8M. Hardly exercising good judgement.
84
14/03/2021 22:10:38 3 0
bbc
Bottas has qualified on pole, and won races. Merc only need someone who can come second. Two top drivers in the same team causes problems.
85
14/03/2021 22:13:55 1 0
bbc
No way, it'll be more of the same. Mercedes are just too good, they do this every year in testing and then go on to dominate the whole season.
83
14/03/2021 22:10:27 5 5
bbc
It'll be another boring procession this year like it has been for the past twenty years. Same ol cars winning. Formula1 is so boring now. The highlight package of a race is what...10 seconds....if that...The Americans own F1 now and have they improved it? Is it a better spectacle? Is it more exciting? I answer with three "No".
86
14/03/2021 22:16:08 1 1
bbc
I hope Extreme E delivers on excitement.
87
14/03/2021 22:17:08 3 5
bbc
I remember everyone saying Ferrari had nearly a second advantage and first race usual Mercedes dominance

Hope red bull or one other teams do get in the mix
Yep to be convinced Hamilton is better than Max. Be good if cars more evenly matched as Bottas is not a rival to Hamilton just a no2
83
14/03/2021 22:10:27 5 5
bbc
It'll be another boring procession this year like it has been for the past twenty years. Same ol cars winning. Formula1 is so boring now. The highlight package of a race is what...10 seconds....if that...The Americans own F1 now and have they improved it? Is it a better spectacle? Is it more exciting? I answer with three "No".
88
14/03/2021 22:17:44 1 0
bbc
The best car racing on tv is the Goodwood Revival.
89
14/03/2021 22:19:42 1 1
bbc
As per usual, Mercedes will sort the rear stability in the next 2 weeks and then their superior engine will make the title another cake walk.
Merc didnt seem worried at all, probably introding a problem on purpose to make the cars looker closer in performance than normal.
90
14/03/2021 22:23:42 3 5
bbc
Want to enjoy F1? Just ignore the Mercedes cars, they are lightyears ahead of everything else and have become an irrelevance. Mercedes aside my prediction is Perez/Alonzo/Lando Norris. Max is great but will become more and more desperate and reckless as Perez scores more points and pulls away from him.
132
15/03/2021 00:03:20 2 0
bbc
My prediction is that you pretend all year that you don't have a problem with Hamilton's skin colour, just like you tried to do last year too. Lol. I wonder which annoys you more, SPOTY or the Knighthood.
91
14/03/2021 22:31:26 5 0
bbc
Mercedes will just turn up their engine a notch though not the customer engines so much
92
14/03/2021 22:31:41 0 0
bbc
No
61
14/03/2021 21:44:11 118 82
bbc
Honestly, you read the comments and articles and you would be forgiven for not realising we have the best driver in history embarking on an attempt to achieve the biggest ever feat in motorsporting history.

None of us will ever see another human let alone British man achieve what Lewis is on the brink of achieving but all you see from the media & trolls are prayers that someone else will stop it.
93
14/03/2021 22:33:03 6 1
bbc
I think a lot of drivers prefer to race for Monaco
81
14/03/2021 22:08:57 5 7
bbc
Even in single-spec Formula 2 - someone eventually dominates a season, so what do you suggest? Ban Mercedes from competing? Ban Lewis from driving?
I see that the majority here from the comments hate to see Mercedes/Lewis winning but what exactly do you want in place? I see grumbling but no suggestions for an alternative.
94
14/03/2021 22:33:13 8 0
bbc
?? im talking about media hyping up ferrari and red bull every year during testing, not whatever ur on about
14
14/03/2021 20:57:08 19 2
bbc
This happens every year... most aggregiously in 2019 when several well respected pundits even went as far as suggesting Merc were midfield pace and then they obliterated everyone.
95
14/03/2021 22:34:26 24 1
bbc
The media have to drum up interest to get people to watch and keep them in a job
341
15/03/2021 15:42:03 0 0
bbc
I don't understand why though, they don't have the rights so why not do the same as they did with motogp and WRC and forget it exists?!
352
15/03/2021 15:59:21 1 0
bbc
Exactly ... Benson has to justify his Jollies , even more so now that pensioners have to pay for a tv license
61
14/03/2021 21:44:11 118 82
bbc
Honestly, you read the comments and articles and you would be forgiven for not realising we have the best driver in history embarking on an attempt to achieve the biggest ever feat in motorsporting history.

None of us will ever see another human let alone British man achieve what Lewis is on the brink of achieving but all you see from the media & trolls are prayers that someone else will stop it.
96
14/03/2021 22:38:01 28 42
bbc
Anyone could have achieved the same as sHammy in that car. George Russell proved that, before he was knobbled.
163
15/03/2021 07:16:02 13 2
bbc
Its a shame Bottas couldn't.
199
15/03/2021 08:33:38 2 2
bbc
A one race wonder versus a multi-season legend?

Yeah, anyone could do what Hammy did *smh*
97
14/03/2021 22:39:08 0 0
bbc
The writer needs to get some new material
98
14/03/2021 22:40:28 0 3
bbc
When discussing drivers its always the most recent that figure highest LH, AS, FA, NL, AP, with the odd mention of Fangio, Stewart, Clark to make it seem like an all time selection. Mario Andretti surely the most versatile, won on dirt tracks, Indycar, Sports Cars and F1, yet never features. In 2021 LH is statistically 5th best driver despite having by far the fastest car.
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14/03/2021 23:32:54 2 0
bbc
How is LH statistically the 5th best? According to % races won he's 3rd best only behind Fangio and Ascari not bad going considering he's had far more races than them. Both these guys had far faster cars than their rivals too. He's beaten every teammate he has faced and won a race every season. Andretti is a good shout though. Graham Hill too for me as he's the only one with a triple crown
99
14/03/2021 22:40:31 2 2
bbc
This gets asked every year.

And come the first corner of the first race the season is all but over.

Recently been watching old F1, 1984 to 1987 in particular. Fantastic period. 1986 had 4 drivers still in the race for the championship at the final race of the season!

Can't see that happening these days, ever!
100
14/03/2021 22:43:11 1 0
bbc
Like 1934. 37 same as it ever was