UK exports to European Union drop 40% in January
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Official figures show a sharp drop in trade in goods with the EU as the Brexit transition period ended.
We also negotiated the rules, agreed to them and signed them into law...
Blame the EU all you want but the Tories are just as much to blame
Blame the EU all you want but the Tories are just as much to blame
Tory playbook #1 - It's always someone else's fault.........
why should they, we told them to get lost.
If a mate decides to leave my watsap group then he can get lost too..
we reap what we sow.. going well isnt it
If a mate decides to leave my watsap group then he can get lost too..
we reap what we sow.. going well isnt it
Why would they do that?
Do you also think the government should let (e.g.) China flood our markets with free imports and risk putting UK firms out of business?
Wake up and smell the coffee. The EU is a market (one of the biggest in the world) and we voted not to be a part of it.
You reap what you sow.
Do you also think the government should let (e.g.) China flood our markets with free imports and risk putting UK firms out of business?
Wake up and smell the coffee. The EU is a market (one of the biggest in the world) and we voted not to be a part of it.
You reap what you sow.
....let us what? Use the club facilities. That's not usual when you leave a club and we have done so, just as you insisted in spite of being informed that this would happen...
Not surprising in a lockdown and the recent global container shipping problems. The economy contracted by 2.9% in January; a much better performance than the 5% expected.
The pound has surged since January. Makes our exports look expensive. An unfortunate side effect of having a strong currency. Switzerland has a similar problem.
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Love it !!
Exports down by £5.3 billion, imports down by £8.9 billion.
Result means U.K. is £3.6 billion better off.
Result means U.K. is £3.6 billion better off.
Gove should be behind bars, along with Johnson.
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Heathrow Business Update for February (which, of course, the BBC ignore):
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
Everyone has had more than enough of Gove; after damaging education the idiot should have been permanently removed. It reflects the sad state of tory party that he has'nt been.
If you look on the PMs twitter account, there are absolutely zero references to Brexit & its impact. Once Covid is under control he will only have a few populist policies to smokescreen the failure that is Brexit. When will this country wake up to one of the greatest political swindles we have ever experienced? The PM & his cronies are ripping the country off!
BSUB
Your apparent deep lack of intelligence and capability to analyse trade flows and temporary barriers to them is rather worrying. Why not study international trade a little before publishing tabloid soundbites.
Your apparent deep lack of intelligence and capability to analyse trade flows and temporary barriers to them is rather worrying. Why not study international trade a little before publishing tabloid soundbites.
Oh those poor remainers. They think that one month in a lockdown with most hauliers preferring to avoid the first month is a sign of total Armageddon. Never mind, have your moment in the sun....ah but wait you won’t because most of Europe won’t be safe this year
‘The ONS said the sharp fall in trade was "likely the result of temporary factors".’
No surprise then?
In a transitional period these things happen.
Let’s not jump the gun and start all the doom and gloom predictions
as proved before they often do not materialise
No surprise then?
In a transitional period these things happen.
Let’s not jump the gun and start all the doom and gloom predictions
as proved before they often do not materialise
Right. But so far Brexit has only made things worse, not better. Doesn't that mean that so far it's failed?
The transitional period ended December 31st 2020, this report is on figures post that date.
If you lost your job because of Brexit, you wouldn't be thinking things like "teething problems".
The £ has gone up since making British exports more expensive and you have to pay the additional customs charges which are being ladelled on by the delivery companies with lots of mimimum charges etc.
"likely the result of temporary factors"
"likely". What's this? A Brexiteer quoting a speculative word? An opinion?
For four years we had Brexiteer dismissing any article that contained words such as "could" "may" "might" "likely". You demanded "facts not speculation".
Well here are the facts from the report. Exports down 40.7%. Economy down 2.9%.
Speculating why, is not necessary. Agree?
"likely". What's this? A Brexiteer quoting a speculative word? An opinion?
For four years we had Brexiteer dismissing any article that contained words such as "could" "may" "might" "likely". You demanded "facts not speculation".
Well here are the facts from the report. Exports down 40.7%. Economy down 2.9%.
Speculating why, is not necessary. Agree?
You'll believe anything won't you - the transitional period was supposed to make things easier and they will get even tougher when it ends.
I automatically downvote any post containing "doom and gloom", "grow a pair", "drain the swamp", "snowflakes" or similar clichés.
Ask the fishermen who voted for Brexit - and now they are completely stuffed . There fault - not mine and I have no reason to contribute to there survival.
WOW WOW WOW
The UK exports to EU the largest market down 40%.
40% !!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet when brexiteers wake up this morning and would shove their heads again under pillows and scream - this is project fear
The UK exports to EU the largest market down 40%.
40% !!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet when brexiteers wake up this morning and would shove their heads again under pillows and scream - this is project fear
"UK exports to European Union drop 40% in January"
Yet another Brexit dividend.
Its all going really well.
And tomorrow the sun will rise in the west.
Yet another Brexit dividend.
Its all going really well.
And tomorrow the sun will rise in the west.
Export drop to the EU fell 40.8%
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
And incase people accuse me of lies, here is the ONS report on this: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021
Did you forget that there is a global pandemic and businesses closed all over the world?
Brexiters think we still have a strong manufacturing industry lol
My god man, we are talking abut the first month without a deal, during a pandemic.
Get a grip.
Get a grip.
I agree. Let's all get with the programme and make the best of where we are now, rather than going on about "if only we had not left the EU". We had a democratic vote and I voted remain, but am keen to move ahead with the majority decision and help make it work.
It's not so black and white. There were a number of issues within the containerised shipping industry (covid, port congestion, lack of trucks, lack of containers) which severely impacted UK exports to ROW, this from October through to January. Exports should and would have been much stronger.
You appear to write these BBC EU sycophant articles then immediately comment on them!
If you look at the Trade both import and export EU-UK and also Intra EU they are down similar amounts. There is a very clear Covid impact in these Figures. In regards to isolating the Brexit impact this will become clearer later in the year once the Covid impact hopefully will have gone. ROW well no new deals of any note have been done. US, India, China, RCEP, any updates ?
Easy, lock-downs, and the most lock-down places on the planet are in Europe. Wait until the lock-down states feel the full effects of lock-down. There is a reason the pound is hammering the Euro at present and has done for weeks. I love the way the larger value drop in EU exports to the UK isn't given equal billing with the UK's figures.
Calm down we've only just left, put your stats on here in a years time when hopefully the new system will have bedded in. Also coronavirus is still having a huge impact, container shortage, port backlogs, workers on furlough etc.
The INS report also stated the following which you also choose not to include in your post:
Trade has not been typical in recent months and, because of the practical challenges and temporary factors outlined in Section 3, we would encourage users to apply caution when making short-term comparisons of trade movements.
I would recommend that you take their advice.
Trade has not been typical in recent months and, because of the practical challenges and temporary factors outlined in Section 3, we would encourage users to apply caution when making short-term comparisons of trade movements.
I would recommend that you take their advice.
Did you expect our exports to non-EU countries to double in one month? Trade growth will take time, but it will happen.
One month's figures skewed by stockpiling. The article also said "the ONS said that other data suggested that trade levels began to recover towards the end of the month."
You also fail to account for imports from the EU falling by 28.8%.
The BBC are not reporting the RoW figure as this is a positive, not a negative. We trade more with RoW than we do with EU, especially trade in goods.
You also fail to account for imports from the EU falling by 28.8%.
The BBC are not reporting the RoW figure as this is a positive, not a negative. We trade more with RoW than we do with EU, especially trade in goods.
Heathrow Business Update for February (which, of course, the BBC ignore):
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
You are trying to base Brexit on figures in the middle of a Global lockdown when everyone has stockpiled so are bound to need less.
Wait a few months for things to sort themselves out and then judge the impact.
The whole Brexit debate is farcical - vast majority of Brexiteers voted for Societal reasons (immigration, Eastern EU worker taking jobs etc) where as remainers think only of trade.
Wait a few months for things to sort themselves out and then judge the impact.
The whole Brexit debate is farcical - vast majority of Brexiteers voted for Societal reasons (immigration, Eastern EU worker taking jobs etc) where as remainers think only of trade.
Ummm, we are in the middle of a Global Pandemic, or have you been asleep for the last 12 months.
You do realise this is only week 11? Many trade deals could not be completed until after we were out of the transitional period. Surely you must accept that we need to give it a bit of time?
Divide and rule, it's the BBC way!
If by "Brexit bashing" you mean "reporting on the (woefully predictable) consequences of Brexit", then... yes?
Yes, its called "reality". Hard to face when you know you are one of those responsible for this mess I know.
Here we go.
Every month the independent ONS releases economic data, and the BBC report it here. If the data is negative, every month we get the same response from the Tory/Brexiteer faction who are too fragile to cope with any bad news.
Cue the "shoot the messenger" comments.....
Every month the independent ONS releases economic data, and the BBC report it here. If the data is negative, every month we get the same response from the Tory/Brexiteer faction who are too fragile to cope with any bad news.
Cue the "shoot the messenger" comments.....
Hopefully it means there's an uptick in consumers buying British. Nows the type for British businesses to step up and fill these areas to take advantage of the benefits of Brexit.
This is a drop in EXPORTS. Less people in other countries buying British, mainly because it's now an administrative nightmare to do so
People would rather buy Chinese goods made by forced labour and exported round the world at great environmental cost than pay twice the price for a British-made equivalent which lasts no longer and performs no better. Even if the British product exists, which it usually won't because manufacturers' shareholders will demand offshoring to increase their profits.
In your opinion what are the top 3 benefits of Brexit to British businesses?
Is that 40.7% from December, January last year? 40.7% from when?
It clearly states January 2021.
Did you read the article? Even a nice graph showing it.
Did you read the article? Even a nice graph showing it.
“40.7% from when?”
From end of December 2020 to
end of January 2021
The bar chart shows it
The reason for the drop is not customs friction or stockpiling
It is that EU customers no longer want UK goods because without the CU they could be any dangerous unregulated rubbish from anywhere
From end of December 2020 to
end of January 2021
The bar chart shows it
The reason for the drop is not customs friction or stockpiling
It is that EU customers no longer want UK goods because without the CU they could be any dangerous unregulated rubbish from anywhere
The ONS said January's fall was a "notable hit", albeit smaller than some had expected.
So the fall was lower than expected then.
Maybe that should be the headline.
So the fall was lower than expected then.
Maybe that should be the headline.
But, according to Brexiters, there would only be positives. So you should be comparing with what was promised, not what the "losing" side said.
Why? Report the figures as they are, most of us are grown up enough to not need the "but it could be worse" caveat to make ourselves feel better about the mess we've gotten ourselves into
This sort of thing was predicted in the run-up to the referendum, but dismissed as 'Project Fear'
No, societal collapse, national bankruptcy, fire and brimstone were all predicted in the run-up to the referendum, and now you will take anything you can get and say "see, we told you so"
It's ok though because the brexiteers all knew what they were voting for....
hardly "Economic Armageddon", though
WOW, that Project Fear was good.
I guess it predicted WWIII and Alien Invasion.
Didn't know the bitter remainers could also predict a world pandemic that resulted in the closure of the border that coincided with the final Brexit act.
WOW - you remoaners DO have a crystal ball.
shame all the other predictions were total B/S
(drop in £, drop in FTSE, House Prices ... all shown to be opposite)
I guess it predicted WWIII and Alien Invasion.
Didn't know the bitter remainers could also predict a world pandemic that resulted in the closure of the border that coincided with the final Brexit act.
WOW - you remoaners DO have a crystal ball.
shame all the other predictions were total B/S
(drop in £, drop in FTSE, House Prices ... all shown to be opposite)
Idiot, Europe has been locked down for almost a year, the UN says the economic consequences globally of lock-down will lead to 150M deaths, the virus has killed 2.5M so far AND you think this is Brexit related? Explain why the pound has been hammering the Euro for weeks if so.
it is project fear...it was dismissed by Remoaners that having no British made vaccine was project fear
Actually, if you look at the stats for Lockdown 1 in Mar-May 2020, you see a very similar drop between the UK and EU exports.
Therefore, while a proportion of the drop may be related to Brexit, the majority is likely to be related to the Lockdown.
However, dont let the facts stand in your way.
Therefore, while a proportion of the drop may be related to Brexit, the majority is likely to be related to the Lockdown.
However, dont let the facts stand in your way.
The Brexit problems will either be sorted out or we will find new markets. In any event, there is no going back. The EU have become adversaries. There is no point being a Remainer, the issue is settled.
‘The ONS said the sharp fall in trade was "likely the result of temporary factors".’
No surprise then?
In a transitional period these things happen.
Let’s not jump the gun and start all the doom and gloom predictions
as proved before they often do not materialise
No surprise then?
In a transitional period these things happen.
Let’s not jump the gun and start all the doom and gloom predictions
as proved before they often do not materialise
Success or failure is an end result, not a status so your question doesn't make sense. Are vaccines failed because they don't provide protection the day after a jab but suddenly succeed 3 weeks later?
We knew there would be a period of adjustment for business that export and import, declaring it failed less than 3 months in while they are getting used to the new system isn't helping anybody
We knew there would be a period of adjustment for business that export and import, declaring it failed less than 3 months in while they are getting used to the new system isn't helping anybody
Except for the vaccination scheme? Which is kind of a big deal at the moment, the biggest of deals really.
40 odd years of membership and less than 3 months since the transitional period ended. There was always going to be short term issues / pain but the theory is for longer term gain. Only time will tell which side of the leave / stay argument was correct and no amount of moaning at this stage is going to change that.
yeah Brexit made it worse for EU and their lack of Covid vaccine
It also shows that it has succeeded as the EU is scared that we will succeed and that others might follow - hence their bureaucratic frenzy
Aren't you the always bleating on about Covid and lock-down? Are you such an idiot that you think lock-down and curfews (in Europe) don't have an economic effect? Here, IF you can read more than a paragraph (you couldn't when it came to Liam Fox and the Guardian article) try this for some reality.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
Do you think it can be judged after a few weeks? We have a lot of new trade deals which will bear fruit, but not overnight. Many of the EU problems will be solved.
This is like going backwards towards the complete isolation.
It's funny that after 45 years sharing a project with our neighbours we don't keep ANY friend in the neighbourhood and even some housemates are planning to move.
We blame all you.
This is weird!
It's funny that after 45 years sharing a project with our neighbours we don't keep ANY friend in the neighbourhood and even some housemates are planning to move.
We blame all you.
This is weird!
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It is not brilliant. It is childish.
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Early days yet.
Teething problems and companies / hauliers etc getting used to new systems plus not to mention a world pandemic.
Yes not a good start but this is the way it is for now.
Teething problems and companies / hauliers etc getting used to new systems plus not to mention a world pandemic.
Yes not a good start but this is the way it is for now.
No, these are not solely teething problems. These are permanent states of affairs. Whilst thigs will get better, there will not be frictionless trade, no matter what the Brexiters promised. They lied about that.
See you have swallowed the "teething issues" line by the Tories! Cheese exporters now charged £180 for every shipment to EU where average order is £30. If you were a French cheese lover, would you (a) spend £30 on Roquefort or (b) spend £30 + £180 shipping cost on British blue cheese? I'll wait...
Compared to the porkies Johnson, Cummings and their chums peddled to the gullible about the Brexit deal, the anti vax weirdos seem like upfront honest people.
We need a Museum of Brexit. Exhibits should include the red bus with the lie on the side. And the fishing boats that sailed up the Thames, now probably sitting idle. Also the so-called "Project Fear" government leaflet, every bullet point of which has been proved true. Plus the racist "Breaking Point" poster, the gun Jo Cox was killed with, and a looped tape of Farage saying "no shots were fired."
Here we go again! Leavers are gullible weirdos, Remainers are morally superior, better educated, and wiser. They keep telling us this on the BBC discussions, so it must be true.
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Heathrow Business Update for February (which, of course, the BBC ignore):
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
Actually, have you noticed that the anti-vaxxers are often also Brexiteers (something to do with 'freedom' or their understanding of the word). Strangely, Rees-Mogg also thinks they're "nutters" - the only thing I agree with him on - although he was no doubt happy for their votes in the referendum and GE.
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion!
If anyone is surprise by this then they have been asleep for the last year. The EU were never going to make Brexit easy, stupid import/export (include VAT) rules created on both sides have increased prices to a point of being not viable to do business. The Tories were not up to the negotiation job, but give it time as both side will get hurt and need to rethink in the future.
The EU was always clear that Brexit was a lose, lose situation. Brexit supporters denied that. Until they open their eyes and admit that being a 3rd country causes huge problems, none on these issues can be solved.
Here's an idea. Exports were boosted in December by the fact the exporters wanted to get everything out before the Brexit deadline, leaving less to export in January, thereby making the December figures look better than they should and the January worse than they should.
With regards to import duties, there are very few import duties on either side and as for VAT, it is paid at it comes across the border, then reclaimed by the importer, nett effect, zero, just the same as before. The added cost comes from the organising the paperwork, which on small quantities, percentage wise is large, however on bulk importing is small.
If importers and exporters are organised, which more and more are, then the effect on the consumer should be minimal. We manage it with other countries outside the EU, so why should this be any different?
No new rules created by the EU. All their rules were already there for 3rd countries. Only change was we voted to be a 3rd country.
These rules are NOT new rules. They have been in place for years. The UK helped draft most of them and because of them the UK got benefits associated with membership. Leave the club= no benefits.
both sides will not get hurt only UK will get hurt business will relocate to Europe or be content in UK making less money
"The EU were never going to make Brexit easy, stupid import/export (include VAT) rules created on both sides have increased prices to a point of being not viable to do business."
Inadvertently, or not, you make it sound like there are new rules put in because of Brexit rather than they're the existing rules for non-EU members.
Brexiters voted in favour of working under those rules...
Inadvertently, or not, you make it sound like there are new rules put in because of Brexit rather than they're the existing rules for non-EU members.
Brexiters voted in favour of working under those rules...
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion!
the friendly EU at it's true colours. UK has been on downhill since we joined. the pandemic has caused an economic crash. now, all hell has broken out. at least, we are in front regards the covid jab. EU,??????. the new blame game.
But how long will that take.,....Rees-Mogg said in forty years we'll be ahead of the game......forty years I'll be 98 not much good to me then is it Moggsie
This is terrible. Project fear is now project reality. When will we stop punching ourselves in the face?
We knew what we were voting for..
You are just a remoaner..
Sunny uplands...
Etc etc blahblahblah
You are just a remoaner..
Sunny uplands...
Etc etc blahblahblah
The remainers are like the man who did not want to go on the cruise, the boat sinks, water coming into the lifeboat but refuses to bail out water as none of this was his doing.
No.
When we target the right.
Remoaners tried to make project fear a reality by trying to prevent the vaccine being made in UK
Because the Brits have turned into a very angry and arrogant and greedy nation that has become like a lost toddler in a supermarket.
Can't see it changing but Feb figures will give us a better factual idea of whether this is a real long term issue, or just the disastrous implementation which took a while to settle. I suspect it is more long term but we dont know yet.
You can keep punching yourself in the face, we don’t mind
All the benefits of Brexit were stated as being long term. There was never any doubt that there would be 'a few bumps in the road', and Brexiters (inc Gove) were open on that.
Problems have been exacerbated due to the deal being last-minute, and port delays due to Covid will also have been a factor.
Problems have been exacerbated due to the deal being last-minute, and port delays due to Covid will also have been a factor.
What happened to that so-called Yorkshire grit?!!
We can't, it's done now. And when we crawl back to ask to be let in again we certainly won't get the kind of deal we used to have.
We are only copying what they are doing in Brussels though.
Well done for using the most boring Remoaner cliche you could find, 'project reality'. Yawn.
The problems will be solved or we will grow our non-EU trade. The EU are trying to harm us, but BBC Remaoners still support them.
The problems will be solved or we will grow our non-EU trade. The EU are trying to harm us, but BBC Remaoners still support them.
Erm, when did you predict Europe would lock-down for over a year and destroy the economy? I remember Nissan closing Sunderland claim, but Covid and lock-down, nope can't say I remember that.
PS EU exports to UK down by £8.9Bn - so are you saying Brexit hurts them more than it hurts us? (Must do, pound is hammering the Euro, has done almost since Jan 1st - seems the markets favour Brexit Britain)
PS EU exports to UK down by £8.9Bn - so are you saying Brexit hurts them more than it hurts us? (Must do, pound is hammering the Euro, has done almost since Jan 1st - seems the markets favour Brexit Britain)
Heathrow Business Update for February (which, of course, the BBC ignore):
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
When we realise that the pain does come from our face and it's our hands doing it.
Yep , Never it is !
Yep , Never it is !
So why is the £Stirling flying high against the Euro!? Why would the EU want to see the UK economy flying..? It's obvious now that they cannot afford to see us doing 'better than them'!? They will, obfiscate, delay, hold back our trucks, create paperwork and do anything to try and make things look worse for us!
Maybe we should also point out that we have cut imports by more than exports thus as a country are better off! Of course you pro EU folk are never going to be happy if the UK is getting better.
Eeeee yorkshire dagger, a bit blunt that comment lad. If you want to take one months data at face value then perhaps you should punch yourself in the face
Who's are you playing for, as the ONS report, states:
The total trade deficit for January 2021, excluding non-monetary gold and other precious metals, narrowed by £3.7 billion to £1.9 billion; imports decreased by £9.2 billion (17.6%) and exports decreased by £5.5 billion (11.8%).
Have you a financial interest, in the sale of EU produce to the UK, that you want to declare?
The total trade deficit for January 2021, excluding non-monetary gold and other precious metals, narrowed by £3.7 billion to £1.9 billion; imports decreased by £9.2 billion (17.6%) and exports decreased by £5.5 billion (11.8%).
Have you a financial interest, in the sale of EU produce to the UK, that you want to declare?
When we stop voting for the so-called Conservative Party
No clear assumption can be made from one months worth of data as well as lockdowns and a global pandemic it is pretty hard to make any clear assumption to what the decline in imports and exports was down to.
Export drop to the EU fell 40.8%
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
And incase people accuse me of lies, here is the ONS report on this: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021
I'l accuse you of lies actually. You and the BBC are reporting *monthly drops*., which month came before January? Is there any holiday in December that causes an increase in demand for goods? Do you think there may have been some kind of rush to get things exported before the deadline?
People downvoting facts. This is why democracy is a bad idea.
When GDP grew, banks, multinationals, and their CEOs stuck profits in tax havens and property, enriched by Central Bank money printing keeping the wider system afloat and causing environmental damage.
When GDP shrinks, the taxpayer bails out their resultant losses and then must pay it back; this cycle is repeated.
A brand new more sustainable system all round needs debating and implementing.
When GDP shrinks, the taxpayer bails out their resultant losses and then must pay it back; this cycle is repeated.
A brand new more sustainable system all round needs debating and implementing.
And so thank god the British public voted to leave the EU's anti-offshoring money laws which was the only reason the Tories wanted Brexit in the first place. Our rich people can now get richer.
Trouble is no political party will do it so we remain a country controlled by billionaires
I think that's what Mr Corbyn was saying when the newspapers, the Tories, some of his own party and others told him to get stuffed.
Oooh can we have the figure for imports please? Pleasey please Auntie?
Export drop to the EU fell 40.8%
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
Export increase to the rest of the world increased 1.7%
You can try and blame the EU for the fall in exports to the EU, but how do you explain that pitiful increase to the ROW? I thought Brexit was to allow for our trade to boom outside the EU? And why isn't the BBC reporting this ROW figure?
Not everywhere. You know we are one of the more cautious countries, to assume everywhere is acting the same way as us is disingenuous.
These people have a laser like focus on doing down the UK at every opportunity.
The EU shills have one task only. So no, of course they have a blinkered view.
Are they really? Those countries who handled COVID far better have stolen a march on us.
Haven't heard the 'project fear' bleat recently, we knew what we voted for was to tank our economy and make everyone worse off...
Haven't noticed any difference apart from cheaper groceries.
No one voted to leave the EU to be better off economically. I think the UK might be better off in the long term, but only because the end goal of the EU is completely unpalatable to most people on the continent i.e. a pseudo-democratic superstate that is run for the benefit of a few member states and those "in power" in the remainder.
Worse off? Have you had any elderly family or friends who have already had the vaccine? Surely ‘Brexiteers’ and ‘Remoaners’ would agree being alive is fairly high up on the agenda..
yeah Covid left the EU very wealthy and demanding export of the vaccine from UK
The Remoaner bleats are still being heard. We voted for freedom and prosperity, and that is what will happen.
Including those in EU countries who cannot now enjoy UK products
Probably because you've gone nuts having been under house arrest for close on a year. Odd how that affects economies, even Europe has noticed,
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
Heathrow Business Update for February (which, of course, the BBC ignore):
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
"Limits on passenger flights, which normally carry freight, mean cargo volumes remain nearly 30% down on an annual basis"
Everything to do with Covid and shutting the Country down!!!
If anyone is surprise by this then they have been asleep for the last year. The EU were never going to make Brexit easy, stupid import/export (include VAT) rules created on both sides have increased prices to a point of being not viable to do business. The Tories were not up to the negotiation job, but give it time as both side will get hurt and need to rethink in the future.
Seriously after the difference in EU and U.K. vaccine programme... a positive Brexit story straight off the bat must be difficult reading for you. Unless of course it’s saved the lives of loved ones. Maybe move with the times, get off your armchair, go for a walk and stop the negativity, you’ll feel better for it
Yawn
Yes, lose for the UK and lose for EU members but not EU bureaucrats
No we weren't, exactly why we said "No Deal" the EU were never going to negotiate in Good Faith - in fact had you a greater attention span you may have got past Liam Foxe's first paragraph to the one which said "EU politics is the only thing that will stop what should be the easiest trade deal in history.' Do keep up Bore.
The EU made it clear from the start that they wanted to punish us for Brexit, and this they are still trying to do. Remainers need to open their eyes and admit that the EU is a hostile entity which wants to damage the UK.
Ie until Brexiteers realise they have "won" nothing.
Who makes the Rules' & Who takes the Rules'.!? That's the ONLY Thing that counts! Everthing else is 'Bluster' and Spin!
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion! Thats not lose lose, thats clawing back a little towards where we should be - balanced trade.
Only because that's what the EU want it to be. They're cutting their nose off to spite their face
Not really a surprise, given the pandemic and being in a lockdown, it would be interesting to see if Exports to the EU where impacted during the first lockdown a year ago.
That way we would know if it was down to Brexit, or Lockdowns, or a combination of both.
Interesting that while UK exports to the EU fell, so did EU Exports to the UK, by a larger value.
That way we would know if it was down to Brexit, or Lockdowns, or a combination of both.
Interesting that while UK exports to the EU fell, so did EU Exports to the UK, by a larger value.
Agree but you won't find how much the EU exports to the UK fell on this website
Yes, the stats are meaningless until full lockdown restrictions have ended.
but if UK goods are more expensive and cause all sorts of bureaucratic headaches for importers, we can't expect our exports to improve significantly. Importers will just seek alternatives.
but if UK goods are more expensive and cause all sorts of bureaucratic headaches for importers, we can't expect our exports to improve significantly. Importers will just seek alternatives.
Yes, so we get less of what we need but at higher cost due to import duties and administration costs.
Has Biden just signed a 1.3 Trillion aid package for the US due to Brexit or Covid?
Any one with any common sense knows that this is mainly due to Brexit. Problem is this country has a 52% majority of people with no common sense atall.
Linked above : https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021
But for those unsure this clearly shows that trade with EU is significantly lower than it was during the first lockdown
Linked above : https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021
But for those unsure this clearly shows that trade with EU is significantly lower than it was during the first lockdown
The article has a graph which covers the period from Jan 2019 to Jan 2021.
Incredible - drops in both are bad for us and we are still in the transitional period - things will only get worse - take the blinkers off.
Well well well it seems they didnt need us more after all.hahahahaha
"Exports of goods from the UK into the EU fell by £5.3bn in January 2021, while imports fell by £8.9bn."
So we had less of their stuff than they had of ours.
So we had less of their stuff than they had of ours.
I can hear them crying about shellfish and vaccines from here.
Relative to when? Last year? Times are not normal, and lockdowns will have had enormous effect.
YEs EU exports have gone up in January. Only ours went down
Those sunlit uplands and the associated unicorns seem to be getting ever more blurry........
Have you been vaccinated?
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They are called foreign summer holidays and they are likely to be blurry for EU nationals this year
You forgot to include 'oven-ready deal' in your collection of misquoted Remoaner cliches.
Try specsavers, and reading up on Covid Lock-downs and Europe. You might learn something and give up this Brexit fixation you have.
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Its been 3 months you fool!
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Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion!
"But the ONS said firms were reporting that trade was getting easier."
Teething problems.
Teething problems.
Quite a success for Mr Blobby who will no doubt blame COVID. Etonian Mr Blobby does not care about business....(f.....business....) but we all feel so much better for having sovereignty. Wow! The man is a shambles.
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COVID and the royal family: great for masking the Brexit catastrophe.
Bring back JC - he would have made BJ look like superman
If only we had voted for Corbyn, we would have had a tremendously successful government, wouldn't we?
No s*** Sherlock, Covid lock-down has no effect on the economies? Wow! Then given the EU's exports into the UK are down even more than our exports to them, it really is true Brexit is hurting them more than it hurts us?
Not at all a surprise - Brexit is turning into the complete disaster many people predicted. We are now an isolated 'third party' country with a deep recession on the horizon.
Only the BBC think it is a complete disaster, because they lose their EU funding.
Ah yes. Part of the, promised, Brexit dividend? Most concerning is he drop in medicines and pharmaceutical products.
Did not say solely teething problems, those are your words.
Far too early yet to see what the ultimate outcome will beyond said yourself things will get better, how better is to a great extent up To the British public and what they buy. That is the only thing the average man in the street can do.
Will trade be as good with the EU, no , even the most hardened leave voter must realise that.
Far too early yet to see what the ultimate outcome will beyond said yourself things will get better, how better is to a great extent up To the British public and what they buy. That is the only thing the average man in the street can do.
Will trade be as good with the EU, no , even the most hardened leave voter must realise that.
Why are posters trying to make political capital out of figures that are influenced by very many factors that have no relevance to Brexit? It seems they are waiting, poised over their keyboards, to cut and paste prepared text at any opportunity. Get a life!
Ironic seeing you posted this within an hour of the story being posted!
Oh come on, Brexit is a major factor. Not the only but will show more, wait and see....
Tell that to the UK fishing industry that's been cut off from their biggest pre- brexit market.
Not really a surprise especially since most of the EU and U.K. have been shut down
So compare with figures from the previous lockdown.
Exports from Germany to China rose by 3% last quarter
If anyone is surprise by this then they have been asleep for the last year. The EU were never going to make Brexit easy, stupid import/export (include VAT) rules created on both sides have increased prices to a point of being not viable to do business. The Tories were not up to the negotiation job, but give it time as both side will get hurt and need to rethink in the future.
Probably some sort of PFI scheme that costs the country a fortune!
I'm not a Labour supporter, but they said exactly what they would have done. Negotiate the best deal possible and put it on the table so everybody can see what Brexit would look like. Then a second referendum, Brexit (that everybody can see exactly what it is) or stay in the EU. The only way that people could honestly say that they knew what they were voting for, Leave and Remain alike.
Probably gone into the negotiations with a view to get the best deal for all parties and treated the counterparts like adults not swinging their d*cks around like a bunch of hormonal adolescents. Typical Tory exceptionalism.
People would rather buy Chinese goods made by forced labour and exported round the world at great environmental cost than pay twice the price for a British-made equivalent which lasts no longer and performs no better. Even if the British product exists, which it usually won't because manufacturers' shareholders will demand offshoring to increase their profits.
The promised brexit results passed off as a covid effect
Well later this year we will start to see the project fear truth
Well later this year we will start to see the project fear truth
We are already seeing it, imports/exports are practically back to normal.
No dramas necessary.
No dramas necessary.
Project Fear:
House prices fall 20%
£ crash
Immediate austerity budget greater than 2008
FTSE crash
World War 3
Bigger hit than Covid to economy
Food and medicine (vaccine!!!) shortages
Still waiting: !!!
Project reality
A few niche suppliers are replaced by local ones and our trade balance improved by £3,5bn in January
House prices fall 20%
£ crash
Immediate austerity budget greater than 2008
FTSE crash
World War 3
Bigger hit than Covid to economy
Food and medicine (vaccine!!!) shortages
Still waiting: !!!
Project reality
A few niche suppliers are replaced by local ones and our trade balance improved by £3,5bn in January
EU and UK both lost, there are unfortunately no winners here...
Totally right. no winners.
But thw UK has lost 10-0 and the EU lost 1-0.
EU trade with the UK was aprox 4% of the EU GDP.
UK trade with the EU was approx 75% of the UK GDP.
But thw UK has lost 10-0 and the EU lost 1-0.
EU trade with the UK was aprox 4% of the EU GDP.
UK trade with the EU was approx 75% of the UK GDP.
But, according to Brexiters, there would only be positives. So you should be comparing with what was promised, not what the "losing" side said.
Or perhaps he refuses to buy in to the populist tactic of believing all is well when it is in fact not. Reminds one of a certain dictator who sat in his bunker pretending the war was still winnable, moving little pins about on his map which represented nothing more than fantasy battalions and refusing to acknowledge the truth, because like all populists he had parted company with it long ago.
Other countries are contemplating leaving the EU too, so the the EU are making making it as difficult as possible for us, to put others off from doing the same. Prams and toys.
absolute rubbish
you'll find they are not,and btw theres a waiting list to join.Are you really that thick.
Unfortunately many of the countries that would like to leave are unable to do so due to the current state of their finances and the fact their political system will never give them that option.
“the EU are making making it as difficult as possible for us”
Well obviously
They have no choice
Everyone has always known that including leavers
The EU must and will make sure the UK is devastated and humiliated for decades, in full view of the world
Good
Well obviously
They have no choice
Everyone has always known that including leavers
The EU must and will make sure the UK is devastated and humiliated for decades, in full view of the world
Good
No they weren't. You'll make anything up if you think it'll polish the brexit turd.
40% reduction in exports is rather bad news for those people whose jobs depend on those exports. To dismiss this news as "anything" is rather understating the problem. But if you're happy, then that's fine, carry on wavng your little flag. After all, you knew what you were voting for.
Could you just dig out the forecasts of fire & brimstone for us? And national bankruptcy? Who exactly predicted these? Ah... just more pointless words.
Thanks for your valued contribution to the conversation...??
Thanks for your valued contribution to the conversation...??
Largest national debt in history, record loss in international trade, tax increases on the way together with pay freeze and reduction in funding for public services. Going well isnt it......?
Economic change doesn't happen instantly, impacts of change take a while to build. And build they will.
No exact same benefits, no we are not leaving the SM, no £350m a week for the NHS
Still we are getting blue passports, made in Poland by a French company
Will you ever admit that you were lied to, and like 17m other gullibles were done up like a kipper
Still we are getting blue passports, made in Poland by a French company
Will you ever admit that you were lied to, and like 17m other gullibles were done up like a kipper
Do you live in the UK Dan ? Well help it !!
Is that what it is going to take for Brexiteers to smell the coffee? That's the best you can muster as the economy collapses and Tory lies and corruption escalates? Really?
Still smarting over my small business having to deal with the new import VAT.....but do you care????? You haven't got any clue whatsoever.
Continue to stick your head in the sand if you like. The rest of the country is looking to see how we can stop a serious erosion in our standard of living...
We have been in lockdown since the transition so let's see what happens once everything re-opens.
"There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside." David Davis - 10 October 2016
I didn't predict any of those but as somebody who exported stuff into the EU before we even joined I did warn that leaving the EU would cause a blizzard of exporting and importing paper and electronic documentation. It has happened. Example: 27.5 euros on costs and an item costing less than £30. Totally uneconomical to buy stuff in the UK now and ship to the EU.
A click bait article for the usual pro-anti EU brigade. Don't fall for it.
Rather looks like you have, hook line and Brexit wilderness.
Yep, the multi account holding EU shills. So obvious.
BUY BRITISH to support the UK economy.
BUY BRITISH to support the UK economy.
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Why are posters trying to make political capital out of figures that are influenced by very many factors that have no relevance to Brexit? It seems they are waiting, poised over their keyboards, to cut and paste prepared text at any opportunity. Get a life!
Oooh can we have the figure for imports please? Pleasey please Auntie?
Why are posters trying to make political capital out of figures that are influenced by very many factors that have no relevance to Brexit? It seems they are waiting, poised over their keyboards, to cut and paste prepared text at any opportunity. Get a life!
We are in a transition period and we are in the middle of a pandemic where everything us closed so imports an exports will be down. Let's get through this pandemic and transition period and then see where we are when things start to open up
But, according to Brexiters, there would only be positives. So you should be comparing with what was promised, not what the "losing" side said.
These people are EU shills. They would be in breach of contract if they 'got over it'!
ROFL erm, Europe is closed for business, has been for nigh on a year - I bet on Covid HYS's you are claiming Government incompetence is the cause of Armageddon.
Oh and patronising millions of people just because they didn't vote the way YOU wanted makes you so much better (?)
Businesses and livelihoods going to the wall. Never mind, can always eat sovereignty for breakfast
It's tasty tasty very very tasty
It's very tasty
It's very tasty
Or all of those oysters that EU citizens will be foregoing
Yes , complete apocalypse. Buildings are collapsing around me. Society is disintegrating. Wasn't the world supposed to come to an end five years ago after the referendum?
It's covid lock-down you numpty, I've been telling you this for months, the EU is going to suffer worse, it has already cost Italy a Government.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
Do keep up at the back.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
Do keep up at the back.
Businesses and livelihoods going to the wall that has nothing to do with Brexit. It's called lockdown.
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion!
But but but wait a minute,there is a solution for UK exporters,do as the brexit govt said and just move to the EU if you want to grow your exports.Seems logical.
I think you'll find a lot already have - notably the financial sector! Not sure where that leaves us by way of lost revenues (public finance!)?
Why not, 1,500 EU companies have applied to the FCA to open and trade in the City of London, we ought to send a couple of branch offices back, given we got Nissan and Unilever as well.
I read in a recent report (not on the BBC of course) that
£1.3 Trillion - TRILLION ! worth of 'assets' have so far been moved to the EU since the Brexit vote.
£1.3 Trillion - TRILLION ! worth of 'assets' have so far been moved to the EU since the Brexit vote.
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion! Ford, Opel , LR and many others moved well before brexit was even considered.
Why are posters trying to make political capital out of figures that are influenced by very many factors that have no relevance to Brexit? It seems they are waiting, poised over their keyboards, to cut and paste prepared text at any opportunity. Get a life!
Dropped 29% compared to what?
December 2020? January 2020?
If it was December 2020, then that's a big drop on a month. If January 2020, then that is comparing pre and post pandemic.
We need to know BBC.
Come on BBC, a big clickbait 29% headline, without saying compared to what. BBC journalism really has gone downhill.
December 2020? January 2020?
If it was December 2020, then that's a big drop on a month. If January 2020, then that is comparing pre and post pandemic.
We need to know BBC.
Come on BBC, a big clickbait 29% headline, without saying compared to what. BBC journalism really has gone downhill.
It's a monthly drop they are reporting. As you say, given the context of the previous month this is hardly surprising.
It's compared to December 2020. If you go to the ONS site (link in the top comment) it says January 2021 versus December 2020.
Did you not read the article?
They have a pretty picture drawn with blue and red crayons.
Do you have a problem with that?
Do you have a problem with that?
Look at the graph.
There are multiple issues here including covid, stalled semiconductor production in China, pre-Brexit stockpiling, Brexit itself, and reliance on low-cost E.European hauliers incapable of handling the paperwork.
My mate who runs a British international transport company has never been busier with export traffic to the EU, and is taking on 10 more top-spec trucks and drivers.
There are multiple issues here including covid, stalled semiconductor production in China, pre-Brexit stockpiling, Brexit itself, and reliance on low-cost E.European hauliers incapable of handling the paperwork.
My mate who runs a British international transport company has never been busier with export traffic to the EU, and is taking on 10 more top-spec trucks and drivers.
Thankfully the graph is there so you can see for yourself that it was BOTH! It was a drop year on year, and month on month.
BBC is run by liberal voting remainers who love nothing more than sensationalist journalism which is always economical with the truth.
Did you check the ons? BBC trumpeting the fall in imports are failing to notice that we improved our trading position with the EU and reduced trade deficit by a billion! BBC as usual continuing its anti brexit campaign, nothing new, terrible half arsed reporting from arts students as per usual
amen. the first port of call for economic measures. licence fee,??????
The stark fact is that our economy is going to be smaller due to Brexit. Now who would believe we would want that.? Brexit was unnecessary and the UK loses out.
So Brexit and Covid caused a delay or two until things settled down.
Who'd have thunk'd it?
Who'd have thunk'd it?
And lying EU have behaved disgracefully these past few months, don't forget
Things were supposed to get much better - sunlit uplands and all that. Now all you can say is it's not Armageddon. Not much of a slogan for a red bus.
A 40% drop in exports, if maintained, certainly will lead to economic armageddon. Delusional.
No, more like the long slow and painful demise of countless small to medium businesses.
I'm not surprised that exports to the EU fell. Our company has had a nightmare shipping goods there. Strangely though, ONLY to the EU. No problems with other countries, even to the US, Australia, Iceland etc. Just the EU.
That's because they are bitter and childish.
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That would be because we have traded with those countries for years on the same rules.
The problem with the new rules for trading with the EU is that nobody (not even HMRC or The Department for International Trade know what they are, that is because they were not defined in the dumb agreement the government signed.
The problem with the new rules for trading with the EU is that nobody (not even HMRC or The Department for International Trade know what they are, that is because they were not defined in the dumb agreement the government signed.
We are not a member of the EU its their choice what they allow in. The government should have done a better deal, so blame the government.
If we joined the single market, that would help you.
If we joined the single market, that would help you.
Would that be because only our trading rules with the EU were changed. That what our Government decided they wanted were awful for businesses, especially those offering services not even included in the deal.
That is because there was no changes to other areas. Nothing changed as far as EU rules were concerned either we just chose to opt out of the club. Leave the club and you face the same restrictions as other non-members.
Unbelievable blinkered viewpoint.
That's because WE decided to leave the EU and change our trading relationship with them - OUR decision. ALSO we didn't change the rules between us and other countries, so exports to them WON'T change!
That's because WE decided to leave the EU and change our trading relationship with them - OUR decision. ALSO we didn't change the rules between us and other countries, so exports to them WON'T change!
The Eu is doomed to fail now. Most countries just ignore EU rules, and don't get punished. So what is the point of it?
The shipping companies are ladelling it on with sundry minimum charges and the like even adding more VAT than the national rates stipulate.
Because they want to punish us, thats the ever so fair democratic EU... Bullies, yes, and people still want to be a member of that vile club...
This country voted to leave the EU. Our Government negotiated an 'oven-ready deal'. A deal which it is now unilaterally trying to change because of its ineptitude and in the process trashing this Country's reputation for legal and moral propriety. The USA doesn't have a larger deal with the EU because of its food standards and Australia has been negotiating for five years, a deal we had. Great!
Same Here for us it is not just the E.U being difficult it is the unclear rules and regulations that individual countries are interpreting differently
Maybe you didn't complete all the extra paperwork. That would be your fault. Obviously you wanted to leave and there is no way that you would ever accept that it has been a total failure. No, it's the EU's fault. It couldn't the the UK's fault could it. Faultless to the core. Wot.
That is what leavers voted for.
Probably due to the rules Johnson signed up to
I'm sure the Daily Express will find someway of blaming the EU.
or the guardian the uk
Seriously? It sure isn't difficult to see, given the EU's petulance, pettiness and vindictiveness since January. The EU is crumbling and the bitter little cabal is taking it all out on the UK.
Why blame anyone, Covid lock-down is the cause, I've been telling you that for close on a year - but no, typical remoaners, desperately bend facts to fit their latest project fear. Don't hear much about Nissan leaving the UK now they opted to leave the EU instead. IF you want the market view on Brexit , pound has been hammering the Euro for weeks.
Daily Express headline tomorrow - Massive increase in exports, thanks to BREXIT.!
Relative to when? Last year? Times are not normal, and lockdowns will have had enormous effect.
Let hope these are indeed “temporary factors “ otherwise those that pushed so hard and promised so much from Brexit should and will be held to account.
That's the problem, they just won't be held to account. They'll still be telling us the 'silk purse' is a roaring success.
So funny to watch all the Brexiteers....."it's just a blip.....it's to be expected...we calculated.....it's only temporary"......now reality sets in. The EU is the nearest trading partner, anywhere else will be expensive. The EU doesn't have to buy from the UK and now it's expensive and awkward....so trade will be less and the UK suffers. It will take 50 plus years to adjust UK if not more.
Pointless article
Trying to get any real trend on exports in the 1st month when confusion/learning curve on post Brexit export rules will be affecting the ability to trade & both UK & EU in part lockdowns utterly invalidates the data
I still believe that long term Brexit will be seen to be a mistake & important industries will suffer, but this is just stirring trouble for the sake of it
Trying to get any real trend on exports in the 1st month when confusion/learning curve on post Brexit export rules will be affecting the ability to trade & both UK & EU in part lockdowns utterly invalidates the data
I still believe that long term Brexit will be seen to be a mistake & important industries will suffer, but this is just stirring trouble for the sake of it
It's not true. It's just 'project fear' ... right? Brexiteers - when will you admit you have royally f*cked-up?
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You've got it wrong mate, people complain about the UK because they want it to improve, not because they hate it.
If I had a £ for every Brexiteer that criticised a UK industry because it was struggling due to cope I'd be rich.
This is terrible. Project fear is now project reality. When will we stop punching ourselves in the face?
Our case rests - no point whinging over trade/economic fallout when the chief Brexit argument was about some confusingly vague weird issue of 'sovereignty' - we are where we are .....!
Try asking Europe what sunny uplands they see at the moment. Riots across the continent against lock-downs and curfews, Governments in Italy and Netherlands collapsed, EU starting vaccine war so upsetting US, Canada, Japan and now Australia - Don't remember any ONE of those in any of the 57 varieties of Project Fear.
- Blame the EU
- Blame the COVID
- Deny the problem
- All the above
- Blame the COVID
- Deny the problem
- All the above
Haven't heard the 'project fear' bleat recently, we knew what we voted for was to tank our economy and make everyone worse off...
Clearly not livinhg in NI then! Cheaper groceries! They just want groceries!!!!
Head still buried in the Brexit sand?
Yea because the trade deal... if we didn't have one then yea we would be having issues
Here's a difference...exports to our biggest market are down 40%
So you're not the one doing the shopping in your family then............?
You live abroad then ?
Where?
Do you seriously expect us to believe that your grocery shopping costs have dropped?
Jog on!
Do you seriously expect us to believe that your grocery shopping costs have dropped?
Jog on!
I have noticed the lower, yes lower, prices in the supermarkets, especially on things like beef, pork and New Zealand wine.
Where are you living? Everything here has gone up.
Ha. thats funny, stop that tickles, seriously that's the most absurd thing I have read all year and I have read plenty of statements by Boris this year
Where are you shopping. My shopping bill has increased gradually since before Christmas.
Do you mean the inferior replacement products for wholesome EU ones that are now filling the gaps on supermarket shelves?
Where you getting your cheaper groceries from, France?
Guess it's not your supermarket that nearly ran out of key foods then.
That is a 100% lie the groceries are not cheaper. They are more expensive and there is not so much of them. FACT.
The same figures seem to apply in the EU with their exports to us, pandemic aside. Will the EU make the right decision and play like grown ups? Somehow I doubt it.
It's a bit of a blurred picture at the moment with these shutdowns in progress. I think we need to revisit this next year to get a more accurate picture.
Not really seeing any of this Brexit bounce we were told about though. The simplistic view that some Brexiteers had, we could sell here what we couldn't sell in the EU is looking more immature by the day. Trade doesn't work like that.
Not really seeing any of this Brexit bounce we were told about though. The simplistic view that some Brexiteers had, we could sell here what we couldn't sell in the EU is looking more immature by the day. Trade doesn't work like that.
THERE WILL BE NO DOWNSIDE TO BREXIT!!!
Can't export anything, can't import anything. Travelling is harder. Lost rights. Allso a bunch of losers could claim they've won something.
Can't export anything, can't import anything. Travelling is harder. Lost rights. Allso a bunch of losers could claim they've won something.
Funny how exports and imports from the rest of the world are running seamlessly as ever before (apart from Covid issues).
I am sure the EU petulance will evaporate slowly but surely.
I am sure the EU petulance will evaporate slowly but surely.
'a bunch of losers' - are you referring to the majority who won? I think you'll find the losers were the remoaners
Cant export or import anything? Completely false, just the sort of alarmist rubbish that Remoaners have been peddling since the day of the vote in 2016.
Cheer up, the EU are going to demand that you have a vaccine passport to travel freely, Malta and Cyprus have already said Vaccinated Brexit Brits are welcome. At the rate the EU is vaccinating compared to the UK, only Brexit Brits will be travelling across the Schengen area this summer ;-)
Ahh, but we took control of our borders (which now don't work properly).
And we claimed back sovereignty. So now we are free to break the treaties we just signed. And catch more fish, which we can't sell.
Plus we got hundreds of millions extra per week for the NHS. Which should help Boris pay his chums more, whilst stagnating pay for nurses.
And we claimed back sovereignty. So now we are free to break the treaties we just signed. And catch more fish, which we can't sell.
Plus we got hundreds of millions extra per week for the NHS. Which should help Boris pay his chums more, whilst stagnating pay for nurses.
Who is trying to travel at the moment?
Travelling is naff all to do with Brexit more to do with a deadly pandemic.
COVID..by any chance..!!?? The Losers lost in 2016..and they are still 'Losing'...along the the BBC and Labour Party!
We have cut our trade deficit with the EU by a billion. Thats GOOD, not good enough but a start. Travel issues are due to covid, the deal means there are no travel restrictions or visas imposed.
I think there there is a common denominator between these losers who claim they’ve won something and Donald Trump. They’ve both from the same stable!
well, aside of the pandemic, the restrictions, lack of normal spending due to closures, guess, the economy is ticking on nicely. folk where given a choice, majority wanted to leave. AMEN.
£5.3bn drop in exports one month. Quick let's make a month 15 weeks long so the £350m a week benefit can balance it out.