Covid vaccinations: No reason to stop using AstraZeneca jab, says WHO
12/03/2021 | news | world | 1,416
The body reassures states after some halted their rollouts over unproven fears the jab causes clots.
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12/03/2021 15:03:25 166 22
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If offered take it and save lives and overloading the NHS.
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12/03/2021 18:04:24 69 9
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Who the hell is down voting your comment? World is full of idiots!
12/03/2021 19:52:34 0 0
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Looks like your post has been hit by the bots
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12/03/2021 15:04:03 11 18
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WHO are always the beacon of truth obviously.

NOT.
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12/03/2021 15:04:40 39 5
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More vaccines for the countries that derive rational decisions based on scientific facts, not social media gossip.
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12/03/2021 15:07:10 43 3
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Looks like Macron’s tactic of reducing demand has worked. Not quite how he was hoping though.
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12/03/2021 15:04:44 234 26
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It's an absolutely amazing coincidence that the blood clots only seem to happen in the the European countries, even though they use it the least.
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12/03/2021 15:13:17 183 22
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Exactly, its a smokescreen to cover up their failings.
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12/03/2021 15:41:58 14 1
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Just to be clear, are you saying that these blood clots did not happen at all? Or that they happen (at a similar extremely low rate) everywhere, but have not been explicitly connected with Covid vaccination, and thus have not been reported in the media?

The latter seems more likely to me. I would imagine that every country is monitoring *very* closely the health of those receiving the vaccines.
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12/03/2021 16:14:14 12 6
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Always read between the lines, it's what they aren't saying. Why not a single negative is said about moderna and pfiser. Check out Pfisers track record of court cases.
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12/03/2021 15:06:05 148 20
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Personally I think the WHO have done a terrible job over COVID, the EU states simply need to look at the UK vaccine program for evidence of issues. Live data is better than blind panic and politics.
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12/03/2021 15:15:26 27 122
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And what level of expertise do you have in order to make that judgement? None at all would appear to be the answer.
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12/03/2021 15:51:57 20 1
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Yet in this case, the WHO have pointedly stated that as far as they are concerned there is no problem with the AZ vaccine. Did you mean the EU medical authority? But they have also stated (it's in the article) that there is no problem. This was a -- to my mind misguided -- decision by individual countries.
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12/03/2021 15:56:27 4 1
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I fully agree that EU (in fact all) states should be looking closely at UK data (and also data from other countries with well-advanced Covid vaccination programs, such as Israel). This would require, however, that the UK, Israel, etc., are releasing detailed up-to-date data on post-vaccination health issues. I hope we (they) are, but don't know for sure.
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12/03/2021 17:44:28 3 17
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The UK has seen many more deaths per population so the vaccine was more urgently required. The EU didn't have eat out to kill
12/03/2021 22:43:54 2 2
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You been the E/U, States have done a terrible job?? YES THEY USUALLY DO!! JUST LOOK AT THE FACT THEY HAVE NOT BALANCED THEIR BOOKS FOR YEARS??? Then Britain is the ONLY COUNTRY TO ALWAYS PAY IN FULL??NOW THESE E/U lot are being difficult, over Brexit?? fine just do not buy anything from them,, That will make them sit up???
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12/03/2021 15:06:20 33 20
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Shame that the WHO destroyed all their credibility for the sake of Chinese money. No one will listen to them anymore.
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12/03/2021 15:14:31 15 18
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By no-one you mean yourself. Make that clear.
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12/03/2021 15:20:59 9 9
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Hey Nick,

Just a thought: try having an original idea for yourself.

You might think it makes you more worldly to regurgitate gibberish spewed out by the Mail but that only impresses your mates down at 'Spoons. You have made the mistake of posting on a website, which grown-ups populate....
12/03/2021 20:58:45 2 0
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Because an organization receives money it doesn't destroy the credibility. USA (Trump) set the standard for lies and decided to defund WHO. If every country supported organisations it would be difficult to cry foul, but they don't. At least the UK is a major donor to WHO.
12/03/2021 23:14:31 1 2
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thats why the ex president of the U.S.A. Told them get lost but the obummers mate?? is just as bad as obummer was/or worse
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12/03/2021 15:06:24 107 8
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Another day, another scare story.
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jon
12/03/2021 15:52:54 79 2
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Yep. People have died in New York and Miami after receiving the Pfizer Vaccine but it may not necessarily be the cause.
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12/03/2021 15:06:33 89 8
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It would seem a lower proportion of those given the AZ shot have developed thromboses than those who haven't received it - does the vaccine offer protection?
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12/03/2021 15:48:01 15 14
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I have just re-read the article, and it most certainly doesn't say that. What is your source for that claim? Or did you simply misunderstand the The European Medicines Agency statement that the incidence was "no higher" in those receiving the AZ vaccination (not lower!) than in the general population?
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12/03/2021 19:59:00 0 4
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It cures cancer too.
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12/03/2021 15:04:40 39 5
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More vaccines for the countries that derive rational decisions based on scientific facts, not social media gossip.
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12/03/2021 15:07:10 43 3
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Looks like Macron’s tactic of reducing demand has worked. Not quite how he was hoping though.
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12/03/2021 17:14:49 6 0
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Macron may not survive this, my neighbours are very angry with him indeed. He made Brexit related remarks about Covid and vaccines and should have known better. His PM is not much better. French know lies when they hear them, and in France they are currently deafening.
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12/03/2021 15:07:20 6 4
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I bet more people die from heart attacks when they see their credit card bills.
Let's ban those.
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12/03/2021 15:11:47 3 3
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What's your point? One's credit card bill is one's own fault and nobody else's!
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12/03/2021 15:07:32 419 40
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A lot of European countries have this weird anti-British complex about the AstraZeneca vaccine and seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it.

Blood clots are unfortunately fairly common, out of 3 million receiving a vaccine, if 30 subsequently develop a blood clot within 1-2 weeks, this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine.
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12/03/2021 15:11:10 106 294
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You seem to forget. At the start of the vaccination program our own idiots celebrated (that's right, CELEBRATED) the death of some 20+ elderly people in Norway who died soon after the vaccine.

So it's not anti-British; it's just idiots, which are unfortunately abundant everywhere...
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12/03/2021 15:12:13 29 26
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But the EU is great supposedly.
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12/03/2021 15:18:57 37 24
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Somewhat like dying within 28 days of testing positive for COVID-19
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12/03/2021 15:20:15 81 15
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Its very simple EU messed up on ordering vaccine, so any chance they have to delay or suggest its not working, allows more time to get vaccine and they can say delay is due to acting cautiously or being safe. Its simply a cover. In a short while they will say all is OK we can start using again...
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12/03/2021 15:33:49 28 84
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A lot of European countries were very skeptical about how fast this was approved in the UK , add to this, BoJos track record on the truth, and his policy of doing anything to please ....well, I think you can easily see the thinking, in less impulsive regimes...
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12/03/2021 15:57:24 22 30
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Get over yourself

It's not anti British and the Astrazeneca is not 100% British

Are they anti USA or anti Sweden
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12/03/2021 16:11:16 0 2
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Only one or more of the leading scientists
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12/03/2021 16:11:52 18 6
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You also could say that we are obsessed with the EU’s opinion on the AZ vaccine. Thailand, Norway, and Iceland just suspended its use as well. South Africa stopped using AZ due to its low efficiency against their dominant strain and the FDA has not even approved it yet. But for some reason all we talk about is the Europeans badmouthing ‘our’ vaccine.
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12/03/2021 16:19:55 12 3
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In general on the continent they are far more anti vax, Italy has ongoing big issues with measles outbreaks. There were scientist in France on TV suggesting the vaccine be tested in Africa first. If they want a higher take up they will need to do some public education. The Pfizer vaccine is popular as it was proven in Israel. Germany approved AZ in Over 65`s once they had data (from UK).
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12/03/2021 17:07:15 4 1
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it's odd. AZ is a Swedish-British company... Sweden is in the EU.
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12/03/2021 17:18:40 1 13
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Nothing to do with being anti British - European countries don't care about Britain since you decided to go your way. First doubt on AZ vaccine has been cast by German medicine regulator. These are the experts. Maybe they made the mistake you British nationalistic MUG
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12/03/2021 17:19:46 0 0
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It's nothing to do with Pfizer
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12/03/2021 17:29:34 2 9
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Your UK is so unbelievable busy with keeping it's national proud up that it has none to zero respect for people who think different . There's never been a anti British mentality in the EU or Scotland . It's the other way around .. I'm now waiting for scotland and others to do the same as the brittish did to the EU ..
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12/03/2021 17:37:41 0 5
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What happens if you have already suffered a Pulmonary Embolism in the past tho, like I have.

This news alarmed me this AM. I will be holding out on any of these new vaccines untilore data comes in.
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12/03/2021 17:59:35 2 0
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"this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine."

So where is the qualification that the INJECTION or VACCINE is primary cause of blood clot (that leads to fatality)?

Totally blown up out of all proportion ably assisted by mass communication, hype of the media and corresponding idiots.
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12/03/2021 18:47:24 0 0
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Any ways to avoid it happening in general? Exercise? Diet? Take Ibprufen/Aspirin?
12/03/2021 20:29:06 1 0
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Yes, the sad fact is Europeans have a distaste for British deliverance, even though they should know better.
12/03/2021 20:41:07 0 1
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"weird anti-British complex … seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it"

It's not weird, it's just repurposing Nigel's & cronies' anti-EU push & all the anti-EU lies he & Quitter press published over more than 40 years.

You want Nigel to have a legacy, right? Beyond BoJo's latching on & ramping up, I mean.
13/03/2021 01:45:26 0 0
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A lot of Britons have this weird idea that other countries even see the AstraZeneca vaccine as British.
AZ is an EU company with its headquarters in Stockholm and two-thirds of its manufacturing done in other EU countries.
13/03/2021 22:05:28 0 0
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Maybe so but it's about the timing surely?
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12/03/2021 15:07:59 2 22
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As Stalin rightly point out 1 death is a tragedy and a million deaths is a statistic

In the same way the deaths of 0.17% of the population of the UK (and really the attempt to prevent the same happening again) has affectively ruined and in some cases will destroys the lives of the remaining 99.66%

Jesus may leave the 99 sheep to find the 1

Boris left 283 knowing they and he might all die
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12/03/2021 15:10:16 10 1
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You lost me by quoting Stalin as well as your inability to understand the difference between effectively and the made up word you used
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12/03/2021 15:53:10 1 0
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Nurse! He's escaped his room again and off his meds!
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12/03/2021 15:08:30 81 5
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I believe that the blood clot rate is pretty much the same level as people who have not had the vaccine. It might simply be a coincidence that the person had had the vaccine. It's still a very low incidence.
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12/03/2021 15:43:00 88 18
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Project fear by EU.
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12/03/2021 15:59:44 4 3
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It might be due to the beans on toast they had for lunch as well.
In other news the EU has claimed that fish sales correlate to shoe size. There’s a team set up to investigate. Not true, before anyone bites. But just as likely as some of these wild scare stories.
12/03/2021 19:42:37 4 0
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Lots of clots not having the vaccine.
12/03/2021 19:50:10 4 0
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No, it's actually LOWER than the blood clot rate for people who haven't had the vaccine; '...On Friday, AstraZeneca said the recorded number of blood clots in vaccinated people was "significantly lower... than would be expected among the general population".'
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12/03/2021 15:07:10 438 28
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Having mine tomorrow morning - absolutely no hesitation.
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12/03/2021 15:15:04 80 22
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Lucky you! I still have to wait!
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12/03/2021 15:19:35 34 5
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My wife is on Sunday, I am next Thursday.
Bring it on.
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12/03/2021 15:33:28 18 3
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Me too
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12/03/2021 15:45:14 12 102
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Do a search for this on the internet and you will understand :

We must halt all ongoing Covid-19 mass vaccination campaigns as a temporary health benefit to the most vulnerable groups does not justify a public health disaster of international concern.
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12/03/2021 15:51:35 16 76
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I don't fault you for having complete trust in big pharma companies rushing through untested vaccines, but remember if there are problems weeks, months, years down the line, there will be no compensation
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12/03/2021 15:53:18 40 2
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My mum has had both at 97,no trouble at all..,,
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12/03/2021 15:53:20 36 4
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gave me a headache and a heavy arm next day, but no tentacles growing out my forehead...
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12/03/2021 16:22:58 25 2
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I had my AZ vaccine last night in York by members of the Armed Forces. No problems and superbly organised.
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12/03/2021 16:27:29 3 32
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I"m from the netherlands and the EU will limit my movements after refusing this mark of the beast vaccine ..
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Bob
12/03/2021 16:28:58 19 3
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Had my OAZ 7 days ago. Mother and step-father had theirs weeks ago. Wife, father, Auntie and step-mother had the PzBioN weeks ago. No problems whatsoever. I don't know anyone who has had a problem.
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12/03/2021 16:53:14 13 1
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Husband has his AZ jab on Monday. Mine was on Tuesday. Only mild side effects. Slight redness at vaccination site. Husband was tired for a while and I had aching in the shoulders & hands for a few hours the day after the jab. No thing since. So relived to have had it.
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12/03/2021 17:05:13 7 0
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I had my AZ jab n a very famous monk was having his too, live on television..
Astrazeneca has been very busy with experiments ..It has found a negative effect on older people .. If you are older than 50 then it's better to wait .. This virus is mutating fast and your own resistance against new mutations will be much less after two months .. Removed
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12/03/2021 17:33:38 3 1
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Me too
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12/03/2021 17:43:14 7 0
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Excellent. I have mine on Sunday which is a couple of weeks earlier than I expected. AZ as well which is a double bonus
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12/03/2021 18:46:35 3 0
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Had mine 22 days ago, I'm still standing and no any side effects. Certainly none I noticed, the older you get the more likely you are to suffer from this that and the other. Well to be honest less of "the other" with advancing years.
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12/03/2021 15:09:14 54 8
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Part of this is countries following medical practices & procedures, I.e. going on side of caution, however, there is an equal measure of politics and several EU countries simply not wanting to acknowledge our success (for once!)..
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12/03/2021 15:12:49 21 4
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Caution is one thing such as if a person has a history of severe immune reactions ... but the risk of severe illness or death from Covid is a far greater risk.

Some in the medical profession are not very good at their jobs but still earn a lot of money ...
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12/03/2021 15:17:36 6 1
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I'm not sure this is cautious though.
Of course, not offering any vaccine is cautious with respect to the risks it may pose (which seem to be small for the coronavirus vaccines), but it comes at a cost of not getting the protection from coronavirus.
Based on the likelihoods, this may look more reckless than cautious
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12/03/2021 15:42:36 1 2
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At least they will be happy when we come last in the Eurovision Song Contest
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12/03/2021 16:54:48 2 0
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Why so paranoid about the EU, Should they say well done to the UK for having a leading vaccine roll out ? Do we say to the EU well done for giving your members the highest living standards in the world ? EMA have approved the vaccine it is up to individual countries to do what they like with it.
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12/03/2021 15:09:24 2 25
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In the next few years the NHS will be hit by a tidal wave of heart problems
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12/03/2021 15:12:27 3 9
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given that you're a Quitter I'll treat any prediction you make with the contempt it deserves.
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12/03/2021 15:11:26 2 1
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Stop being unhealthy then.
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12/03/2021 15:13:06 4 2
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Quite possibly - but it'll be down to damage caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, cardiac and pulmonary effects have been widely reported.
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12/03/2021 15:14:38 1 1
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And you no doubt will be disappointed if not.
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12/03/2021 15:09:43 106 7
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I had a headache, shivers and felt like I had a mild case of the flu after the AZ jab ... I also had a cramp in my leg and I have lost some belly fat ... but that might be because I am exercising more and eating less ... but you never know it might be the vaccine.
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I got chills, they’re multiplying
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12/03/2021 17:02:34 3 0
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I had aching in my shoulders and hands for a few hours after my jab. Nothing else.
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12/03/2021 17:28:52 1 0
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I had the AZ on Monday felt ok until next day started feeling slightly sick with a vague flu ache. Left me during next day then the jab hurt for a couple of hours the sickness feeling came back yesterday but as faded.
I was told that you can get a bit of this at the vac centre I have also been exercising I would not worry
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12/03/2021 17:46:58 4 0
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My Doctor advised me to have the AZ jab because the side effects are likely to be less.
12/03/2021 19:41:29 0 0
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And......?
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12/03/2021 15:09:48 4 3
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When I got my jab I was asked if I have history of blood clots and if I am on anti-coagulants. I don't and I'm not. I received the Astra-Zeneca vaccine. It's a question I have never been asked when receiving other jabs.
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12/03/2021 15:10:13 3 0
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Quelle surprise.
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12/03/2021 15:07:59 2 22
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As Stalin rightly point out 1 death is a tragedy and a million deaths is a statistic

In the same way the deaths of 0.17% of the population of the UK (and really the attempt to prevent the same happening again) has affectively ruined and in some cases will destroys the lives of the remaining 99.66%

Jesus may leave the 99 sheep to find the 1

Boris left 283 knowing they and he might all die
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12/03/2021 15:10:16 10 1
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You lost me by quoting Stalin as well as your inability to understand the difference between effectively and the made up word you used
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12/03/2021 15:10:33 35 1
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Really? 30 cases out of 5 million?
Couldnt possibly be te way the jabs are administered or the target audience which has been the eldest. Where is the BBC reporting here - what are the statistics for other injections? Is this statistically significant? WHO thinks not.
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12/03/2021 15:57:29 15 0
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Yes, I would like to see some statistics on the other vaccines .. and on UK cases.
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12/03/2021 15:10:39 6 0
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The question is always causal or coincidence as with any new treatment, including vaccines. The number of health authorities who have approved AZ tends to point to a series of coincidences and although we may have problems with the politics of WHO I'm totally prepared to believe them on this subject. Shame it's cast doubt on the rollout in those countries, didn't need any delays.
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12/03/2021 15:10:43 25 2
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Let them all crack on with their ridiculous excuses not to vaccinate their own people, and when countries like ours are finished with lock down for good and are prospering again, they can explain why they are allowing more people to die and businesses to go under
13/03/2021 23:19:34 0 0
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Unfortunately everywhere has to get the pandemic under control. Unilateral ending of lockdown does not guarantee prosperity, we need to be able to interact with the wider world.
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12/03/2021 15:10:48 18 3
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Plenty of blood clots in the EU.
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12/03/2021 15:10:54 5 1
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I had the Astra Zeneca jab last night. All I had to do was to sit down for 15 minutes before I was allowed to leave.

Visited my mother in her care home for the first time this morning. So far I've had no ill effects from it, just need to take it easy fir a bit.
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12/03/2021 15:13:05 3 5
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You had to sit down, I just walked out, why did you need to sit down?
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12/03/2021 15:30:04 5 0
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The protection builds up slowly. After only a day or two, it won't be giving you - or anyone you visit - any effective protection at all yet.
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A lot of European countries have this weird anti-British complex about the AstraZeneca vaccine and seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it.

Blood clots are unfortunately fairly common, out of 3 million receiving a vaccine, if 30 subsequently develop a blood clot within 1-2 weeks, this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine.
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You seem to forget. At the start of the vaccination program our own idiots celebrated (that's right, CELEBRATED) the death of some 20+ elderly people in Norway who died soon after the vaccine.

So it's not anti-British; it's just idiots, which are unfortunately abundant everywhere...
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12/03/2021 16:47:33 18 6
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No, the EU is bitter and embarrassed that the country that had just left their little club had the temerity to get their act together and order vaccines earlier than them.
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12/03/2021 17:06:02 4 0
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What? you just made that up. You are mis-named.
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12/03/2021 17:52:55 1 0
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So it's not anti-British; it's just idiots, which are unfortunately abundant everywhere...

Yeah they are just clots.
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12/03/2021 18:13:07 3 0
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I don't remember any celbration, but useful to remember it was the Pfizer vaccine with 25 deaths and a much smaller number of total vaccinations. We have 2 deaths one after 10 days and the EU is back on its soapbox. I don't recall the same over the 25?
12/03/2021 19:52:15 0 2
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Amazing number of down votes for the truth of it.
12/03/2021 20:08:50 2 1
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NO we didn't celebrate - we pointed out how Norway & Pfizer 'disproved' how the vaccine was to blame, how that applies equally as well to Covid AND how convenient that shortly AFTER that the EU, Germany and France attacked Astrazeneca AND the AZ vaccine. - Try lying a bit more blatantly next time. You remind me of the EU.
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12/03/2021 15:11:31 391 31
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Isn't it strange that any issues with Astra Zeneca vaccine are highlighted yet any with Pfizer or Moderna are swept under the carpet. Is it anti British sentiment or is it business talk? Remember AZ is being sold cheaper and at cost, the others are being sold for profit!
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12/03/2021 15:18:23 39 235
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AND, yet, they managed to trouser over ONE BILLION in profits?
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12/03/2021 15:31:26 22 14
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How do you know issues with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are being swept under the carpet?
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12/03/2021 15:36:01 9 61
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@" Is it anti British sentiment"

The Oxford trials were a little rough around the edges. Justifiable at the time, during a pandemic.

But they were a little wrong footed when Moderna and Pfizer both beat Oxford/AZ to stage 3 results, without similar roughness around the edges.

And the results also showed better efficacy for Pf &Moderna.

So Pfizer and Moderna have earned better respect.
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12/03/2021 15:40:03 19 4
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BBC: And two people who were given the Pfizer vaccine had allergic reactions.
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12/03/2021 15:57:16 4 6
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Your paranoia holds no bounds
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12/03/2021 17:37:04 2 1
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Why is it strange AZ is by far the most used vaccine in the UK the others are tiny in comparison. Main thing is they are all safe and I will take what ever is offered as soon as it is offered.
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12/03/2021 17:37:32 0 1
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That might be the UK media highlighting certain issues.
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12/03/2021 18:20:08 1 0
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The AstraZeneca vaccine trials were badly planned, which has caused much confusion and worry. More seriously, the FDA has refused to authorize the vaccine in the US without a re-run of the vaccine trials. Such caution might be laudable except that people around the world are dying for lack of a vaccine and the attitude of the FDA merely reinforces unfounded fears about this useful vaccine.
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12/03/2021 15:07:20 6 4
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I bet more people die from heart attacks when they see their credit card bills.
Let's ban those.
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12/03/2021 15:11:47 3 3
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What's your point? One's credit card bill is one's own fault and nobody else's!
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12/03/2021 15:44:27 1 0
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Lost: One sense of humour, if found please return to user 'The Truth'
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I had a headache, shivers and felt like I had a mild case of the flu after the AZ jab ... I also had a cramp in my leg and I have lost some belly fat ... but that might be because I am exercising more and eating less ... but you never know it might be the vaccine.
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I got chills, they’re multiplying
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12/03/2021 15:25:39 23 0
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are you losing control ?
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and I’m losing control
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??
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12/03/2021 18:21:51 5 0
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Downvotes .... Really
12/03/2021 19:53:40 0 0
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Time to grease up.....
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12/03/2021 15:11:53 6 16
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A year since the PM told us all to wash our hands and keep socially distant and keep social contact to a minimum.

A journalist then asked: 'Will you be seeing your mother on Mother's Day Prime Minsiter?'

'Of course!' he replied

The competence to lead the Govt through a pandemic was clear to see very early on. If only he'd attended the COBRA meetings in the weeks before...
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12/03/2021 15:15:05 5 1
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Shame the journalist didn't ask if we should all lose some weight as its a major risk of serious complications with Covid ... BJ would also have answered ... 'of course'.

But is not such a good headline ... PM says we all need to slim down
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12/03/2021 15:18:58 3 0
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And this has what to do with the AZ vaccine?
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12/03/2021 15:12:07 278 25
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Funny how places where vaccine numbers are really low, manage to find 'reasons' to stop using a vaccine. 23mil vaccinated 11mil of those with AZ in UK and no problems. EU are again making a smokescreen to cover their shortcomings.
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12/03/2021 15:47:18 135 9
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As a single dose the Oxford/AZ vaccine is the most effective. A Public Health England (PHE) report on vaccine effectiveness: "Protection against symptomatic Covid, four weeks after the first dose, ranged between 57 and 61 percent for one dose of Pfizer and between 60 and 73 percent for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine."
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12/03/2021 16:28:23 12 6
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Pot, kettle, etc. Our vaccine rollout is indeed superb. However, our government has had plenty of failings of its own, and has set up plenty of smokescreens to cover them.
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12/03/2021 17:25:16 2 8
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The EU medicines regulator says no such thing. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56357760

Individual countries, such as Denmark have suspended it but so has Norway, which is not, and never has been an EU member.

So you post looks more like Brexiteers are again making a smokescreen to cover their shortcomings.
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12/03/2021 15:09:24 2 25
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In the next few years the NHS will be hit by a tidal wave of heart problems
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12/03/2021 15:12:27 3 9
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given that you're a Quitter I'll treat any prediction you make with the contempt it deserves.
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12/03/2021 15:12:30 5 3
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Everything in live is a risk, even staying in your home, accidents of which result in a significant number of visits to A&E. It's time we stepped back and got a proper perspective on what we have done and are now doing. Humans are not meant to live in isolation; we are sociable creatures. If we continue like this mental health issues are going to be off the scale!
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12/03/2021 15:15:17 2 0
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Correction in 'life'
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12/03/2021 15:11:10 34 7
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How many blot clots have occurred in the 23 million people who've had the shot in the UK? I suspect no more than statistically average.

The EU would claim the AstraZeneca vaccine is fatal to pedestrians if someone had the jab and then got run over by a bus.
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12/03/2021 15:15:22 13 0
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Seeing as I had the AZ jab last night. Ask me in a couple of weeks time.
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Wn
12/03/2021 15:28:35 6 1
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Why the BBC keep on bashing the AZ vaccine. Pfizer has the same amount of people dying/ having a reaction to it as the AZ jab. I have of 2 family members who live in Rep Ire that had Pfizer jab and both came down with severe reactions. 1 was hospitalised for 3 days. All vaccines will have side effects, there being noticed more as millions of people are having them compared to a seasonal flu jab.
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PJ
12/03/2021 15:45:29 1 1
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Definitely due to the jab if it happened within 28 days ...
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12/03/2021 17:06:05 0 0
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EMA claim it is safe they are very clear in their statement. EU has no say in countries vaccine roll out. Don`t you recall the EU crying over lack of AZ supply ? They clearly believe in it. You point is flawed beyond belief. and smacks of sour grapes.
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12/03/2021 15:09:24 2 25
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In the next few years the NHS will be hit by a tidal wave of heart problems
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12/03/2021 15:11:26 2 1
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Stop being unhealthy then.
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12/03/2021 15:12:47 295 17
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22 people out of 3 million old people vaccinated have had serious blood clots during the last couple of months. What is the probability in this time frame of any of these 3 million having a blood clot? How many thrombotic strokes, pulmonary embolisms or heart attacks would be normal? 22 seems very low indeed

Thousands WILL now die needlessly of Covid whilst governments err on the side of caution
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12/03/2021 15:29:19 51 39
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The rest will have been counted as Covid Deaths.
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12/03/2021 15:31:55 14 6
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Should say "Thousands WILL now die needlessly of Covid whilst EU governments display anti British sentiment".

Let's hope the people in those countries hold those governments responsible for their actions.
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12/03/2021 15:53:52 11 3
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Plus 11 million in the UK have had the AZ vaccine.
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12/03/2021 16:15:18 16 1
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Spot on.... Plus the WHO even started that the actual number of thrombosis incidence in the vaccinated group is LOWER than would be expected!
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12/03/2021 16:28:22 16 1
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You are right, of course not.

People die anyway all the time, some will die after the jab, some after eating ice cream, some after listening to Shania Twain. (other artists are available.)

Proximity is NOT causation.

Listen to the Tim Harford statistics piece on the BBC.

Our major failing? - Education about Maths and the meaning of Risk.

So many people think "safe" is a unique state.
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12/03/2021 16:52:46 12 2
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With those sort of numbers the vaccine may actually be helping to prevent blood clots.
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12/03/2021 17:16:45 9 3
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same as covid deaths the uk are open about deaths but in 28 day period ,so in time deaths from covid will be reduced in data, still deaths to high , but europe still putting deaths down to organ failure even though organ failure caused by covid , especially germany where my son lives his neighbour died of organ failure in hoispital on a ventalator for coivd
749
12/03/2021 17:58:07 3 0
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I read there are over, on average, 400 deaths per day in the UK due to heart and circulatory causes.
12/03/2021 20:49:40 0 1
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"Thousands WILL now die needlessly of Covid whilst governments err on the side of caution"

Remember when thousands died needlessly last year while BoJo was making a complete shambles of the UK 'response'?

RoW will look askance at anything coming out of UK for the rest of this century. Wouldn't you, with covid shambles following so quickly on top of Brexit fiasco?
12/03/2021 21:03:07 0 0
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It's 31 cases of blod clot in Norway out of 127,400 Astra doses administered. And to the nationalists on here, nobody gives a shit where the vaccines come from. You think far to highly of yourselves.
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13/03/2021 22:08:13 0 0
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You are probably right but the timing is worrying. It's not unusual for older people to get blood clots but it's of concern that they got them immediately after the vaccine. I had my first one OK but am now a bit worried.
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12/03/2021 15:09:14 54 8
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Part of this is countries following medical practices & procedures, I.e. going on side of caution, however, there is an equal measure of politics and several EU countries simply not wanting to acknowledge our success (for once!)..
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12/03/2021 15:12:49 21 4
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Caution is one thing such as if a person has a history of severe immune reactions ... but the risk of severe illness or death from Covid is a far greater risk.

Some in the medical profession are not very good at their jobs but still earn a lot of money ...
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12/03/2021 15:36:05 3 5
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The risk of severe illness or death from Covid is a very low risk to the vast majority of people the CMO told us that last March .
12/03/2021 23:09:02 0 2
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YES THATS TRUE!! JUST LOOK AT THE G/Ps,, ducking and diving ,,but mostly delivering rubbish,, for fat pay??
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12/03/2021 15:12:56 274 15
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Well this means the EU can give up all their AstraZeneca doses to the developing countries who will happily accept them.
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12/03/2021 15:15:12 160 19
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I bet they will keep them in a warehouse till they expire
They have been. So far the EU has donated over 25 million doses.the uk on the other hand........
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12/03/2021 16:37:46 6 2
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Load of stupid anti EU comments due to Norway (non EU member pausing AZ use) Denmark a country that will complete 2 jab roll out before the UK. and Bulgaria a small member state pausing it`s use. The EMA say`s it is fine for use in over 18`s. South Africa will not use it they think it is less effective against the SA variant currently the data is not conclusive or ready. no SA bashing ?
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12/03/2021 17:06:24 6 1
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Will they B------s
583
12/03/2021 17:07:05 6 0
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So would French citizens, frankly, it's almost impossible to make an appointment for vaccination, as so few doses are in stock.
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12/03/2021 17:38:06 11 0
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Problem is, we need Europe (and the rest of the world) to get vaccinated, too... Both to prevent too many new variants emerging and to allow us to start traveling again. So EU's vaccine inefficiency & silly political spinning actually makes it harder to end the pandemic and is already costing lives.
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12/03/2021 18:27:27 7 0
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They do seem awfully keen to get their hands on something that doesn't work, hasn't been tested properly, is "quasi-ineffective" and they don't have sufficient data for. They probably just need more time to setup some committees to regulate it is all.
12/03/2021 21:04:32 0 0
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Or Australia who actually bought and paid for them, but who can't have them as Draghi the unelected (not even an MP) PM of Italy got the EU to agree he could ban export of vaccines. Nice people the EU, especially given they have so trashed the AZ vaccine many in Europe refuse it and they now have stockpiles!
13/03/2021 01:48:47 0 0
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Not an EU decision.
This is a temporary halt (pending investigation) imposed by three countries.
P2
13/03/2021 07:42:47 0 0
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Sadly if you tried that there would instantly be a Twitter campaign to stop using the third world as guinea pigs!
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12/03/2021 15:10:54 5 1
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I had the Astra Zeneca jab last night. All I had to do was to sit down for 15 minutes before I was allowed to leave.

Visited my mother in her care home for the first time this morning. So far I've had no ill effects from it, just need to take it easy fir a bit.
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12/03/2021 15:13:05 3 5
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You had to sit down, I just walked out, why did you need to sit down?
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12/03/2021 15:16:25 6 0
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I was driving mate. That's why
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12/03/2021 15:24:33 9 0
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We ask people to sit if they feel a bit faint as some do after an injection of anything ( they may get a bit anxious you see) and not to drive for 15 mins for the same reason. But they are free to leave immediately.
AZ patients don’t need to remain. Pfizer only remain for 15 mins because of the early concerns of some who had an anaphylaxis. I’ve vaccinated hundreds of people all of them were ok
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12/03/2021 18:23:49 0 0
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Me too
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12/03/2021 15:09:24 2 25
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In the next few years the NHS will be hit by a tidal wave of heart problems
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12/03/2021 15:13:06 4 2
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Quite possibly - but it'll be down to damage caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, cardiac and pulmonary effects have been widely reported.
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12/03/2021 15:13:07 90 6
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Many nations are using every excuse not to use this AZ vaccine. Too many political actions rather than humanitarian.
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12/03/2021 15:15:33 72 6
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Their loss not ours ... no reason to worry from out side.
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12/03/2021 17:04:21 4 0
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Then why are they blocking its distribution to other countries?
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12/03/2021 17:37:08 14 0
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My surgery phoned me yesterday asking me to go straightaway as they had a spare slot. I got there and had the jab and found out that a woman had gone in for her jab and when she found out it was the AZ she walked out saying that she’d ‘heard’ that the AZ vaccine was not very good. I’d just like to thank her for letting me take her place.
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12/03/2021 15:04:44 234 26
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It's an absolutely amazing coincidence that the blood clots only seem to happen in the the European countries, even though they use it the least.
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12/03/2021 15:13:17 183 22
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Exactly, its a smokescreen to cover up their failings.
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12/03/2021 19:37:07 0 5
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Yep - politicians! It's like Johnson using Covid to cover up the disaster called Brexit.
13/03/2021 22:10:14 0 0
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Are you saying they are lying then?
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12/03/2021 15:14:26 6 2
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I had the AZ vaccine about 3 weeks ago now. Went to my GP yesterday after feeling unwell and was immediately diagnosed with Ligma.
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12/03/2021 15:17:55 0 0
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Ligma? Nuts!
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12/03/2021 15:18:59 0 0
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Terrible illness, especially for Fortnite fans. :)
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12/03/2021 15:06:20 33 20
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Shame that the WHO destroyed all their credibility for the sake of Chinese money. No one will listen to them anymore.
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12/03/2021 15:14:31 15 18
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By no-one you mean yourself. Make that clear.
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12/03/2021 15:45:28 4 6
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The same WHO who clearly stated that the virus wouldn't jump from animals to humans - if they had got it right this could have been contained in China and saved millions of lives!
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12/03/2021 15:09:24 2 25
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In the next few years the NHS will be hit by a tidal wave of heart problems
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12/03/2021 15:14:38 1 1
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And you no doubt will be disappointed if not.
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12/03/2021 15:07:32 419 40
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A lot of European countries have this weird anti-British complex about the AstraZeneca vaccine and seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it.

Blood clots are unfortunately fairly common, out of 3 million receiving a vaccine, if 30 subsequently develop a blood clot within 1-2 weeks, this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine.
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12/03/2021 15:12:13 29 26
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But the EU is great supposedly.
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12/03/2021 16:09:41 11 2
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The EU is great at improving the living standards for is members. Is was not set up for and is not fit for public procurement projects I understand it wanted to give the smaller member state a chance of getting some vaccine but is has badly gone wrong.
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12/03/2021 15:06:20 33 20
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Shame that the WHO destroyed all their credibility for the sake of Chinese money. No one will listen to them anymore.
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12/03/2021 15:07:10 438 28
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Having mine tomorrow morning - absolutely no hesitation.
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12/03/2021 15:15:04 80 22
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Lucky you! I still have to wait!
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12/03/2021 15:11:53 6 16
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A year since the PM told us all to wash our hands and keep socially distant and keep social contact to a minimum.

A journalist then asked: 'Will you be seeing your mother on Mother's Day Prime Minsiter?'

'Of course!' he replied

The competence to lead the Govt through a pandemic was clear to see very early on. If only he'd attended the COBRA meetings in the weeks before...
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12/03/2021 15:15:05 5 1
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Shame the journalist didn't ask if we should all lose some weight as its a major risk of serious complications with Covid ... BJ would also have answered ... 'of course'.

But is not such a good headline ... PM says we all need to slim down
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12/03/2021 15:12:56 274 15
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Well this means the EU can give up all their AstraZeneca doses to the developing countries who will happily accept them.
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12/03/2021 15:15:12 160 19
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I bet they will keep them in a warehouse till they expire
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12/03/2021 15:42:01 17 3
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An EU Vaccine mountain - sounds about right!
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12/03/2021 15:54:24 11 2
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The first EU vaccine mountain.
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12/03/2021 19:26:43 2 0
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Like wine and milk lakes, surrounded by butter mountains.
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12/03/2021 15:12:30 5 3
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Everything in live is a risk, even staying in your home, accidents of which result in a significant number of visits to A&E. It's time we stepped back and got a proper perspective on what we have done and are now doing. Humans are not meant to live in isolation; we are sociable creatures. If we continue like this mental health issues are going to be off the scale!
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12/03/2021 15:15:17 2 0
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Correction in 'life'
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12/03/2021 15:11:10 34 7
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How many blot clots have occurred in the 23 million people who've had the shot in the UK? I suspect no more than statistically average.

The EU would claim the AstraZeneca vaccine is fatal to pedestrians if someone had the jab and then got run over by a bus.
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12/03/2021 15:15:22 13 0
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Seeing as I had the AZ jab last night. Ask me in a couple of weeks time.
12/03/2021 19:58:42 2 0
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Keep clear of the buses... take a taxi or drive yourself :)
12/03/2021 20:50:28 0 0
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You may have to wait months, years or decades according to some.
12/03/2021 23:18:38 0 0
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I had 1 a few days back!! nothing obvious ,so thanks!!
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12/03/2021 15:06:05 148 20
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Personally I think the WHO have done a terrible job over COVID, the EU states simply need to look at the UK vaccine program for evidence of issues. Live data is better than blind panic and politics.
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12/03/2021 15:15:26 27 122
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And what level of expertise do you have in order to make that judgement? None at all would appear to be the answer.
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12/03/2021 15:29:45 39 2
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Try re-reading Lenny's wording, he's given an opinion that's all

He doesn't proclaim to be any kind of expert so maybe you should dial down the insults
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12/03/2021 15:33:33 18 0
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How would you know ?
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12/03/2021 17:00:22 10 0
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You don’t need to be Einstein to look at the real time data from the U.K. vaccination programme.
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12/03/2021 17:45:49 11 0
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A very helpful constructive reply...NOT. If you have the necessary level of expertise to show lenny_123 why his opinion is wrong, why not simply and politely explain to him. In my personal experience, sneering at people is an incredibly ineffective way of changing someone's opinion.
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12/03/2021 15:13:07 90 6
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Many nations are using every excuse not to use this AZ vaccine. Too many political actions rather than humanitarian.
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12/03/2021 15:15:33 72 6
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Their loss not ours ... no reason to worry from out side.
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12/03/2021 18:04:42 0 8
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It's a matter of national proud and national intrest to represent the uk to the rest of the world as a super state after brexit . Vaccination is a political race .It's about science for others and how effective a vaccination can be The first new mutations spreading it faster did really come from the UK Why acting as if that's ok becourse it's from the uk ? Really .. Please stop the blame game ..
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12/03/2021 18:26:26 0 11
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You say that now, but nobody knows of the medium to long term effects.

Remember thalidomide
12/03/2021 20:58:32 1 0
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Sadly, it's their citizens who are loosing out, which is why people are concerned. They have an insufficient supply of vaccines as it is, yet they're suspending the use of one of them on dubious evidence. There was a lower, not higher incidence of clots than average. So how could the vaccine have caused them?
12/03/2021 23:03:57 0 1
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The main problem!! these peopleWILL NOT! be vaccinated ,,, Then our dozy lot will be going on how!! getting the cov,, and bringing it back?? WORSE THEY WILL BE COMING HERE AND THOSE WHO REFUSED/ OR OTHER WILL BE GETTING IT!! After we have tried to stop it,,, nurses.carers etc who have not had the jab!! SHOULD BE TOLD NO JAB NO JOB,, BECAUSE THE ARE POSSIBLE CARRIERS,, SPREADING IT??
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12/03/2021 15:15:35 10 4
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Man ran over after taking the vaccine. Stop the vaccine now! Even governments are falling over to believe none scientific nonsense.
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12/03/2021 15:38:00 8 0
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The WHO added that more than 268 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines had been administered worldwide and no cases of deaths caused by the jab had been found to date. Enough said!
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12/03/2021 15:49:06 0 1
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That will go down as a Covid death now then!
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12/03/2021 15:14:03 188 20
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I can't help think that the EU are almost trying to trip up the Oxford vaccine just because it was developed by us. Every time there is an EU country flagging up that the vaccine is not working, the WHO and rest of the world just get on with vaccinations.

The EU are having a second spike whilst we calmly get on with vaccination and numbers coming down.
But AstraZeneca are a EU company from Sweden
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12/03/2021 16:05:01 19 1
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Norway is not in the EU
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12/03/2021 16:33:19 17 0
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In fact the EU medical authority explicitly said that there was no problem with the virus as far as they are concerned. It's in the article. This was not "the EU" - it was a misguided action by individual countries.
12/03/2021 19:47:11 1 0
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Germany on spike 3.
12/03/2021 21:08:41 0 0
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British Bullexcrement?
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12/03/2021 15:10:48 18 3
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Plenty of blood clots in the EU.
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Many slam the UK on the other article about Brexit trade.

The fact is that the EU are now actively looking to block and tarnish UK trade.

The best thing the UK can do is to support its own manufacturers, buy British where possible and to focus on innovation and creating the best products.

Truth and hard work will prevail in the end.
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12/03/2021 15:18:38 168 20
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Well said??
But AstraZeneca is Swedish

Dont you understand that?
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Jon
12/03/2021 15:26:07 14 5
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Yep ??
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Pip
12/03/2021 15:38:08 16 25
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More Brexit Bull****t from never neverland...........?
Oddly many people who voted for Brexit also pollute HYS making weak excuses for the fact that the UK has both the highest Covid death toll per capita of any major nation on earth as well as the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

We certainly do live in odd times!!!
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12/03/2021 16:05:00 3 8
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"...and creating the best products. Truth and hard work will prevail in the end."

Until the salesmen get involved.
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12/03/2021 16:47:57 3 5
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The EU are not looking to block trade they wanted duty free access to the UK and got it. The EU did not want the UK to leave due to the harm it would do to trade. Trade pays all bills more of it the better. the EU budget is based on it.
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12/03/2021 17:14:46 2 6
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Truth is manufacturing left this country many years ago we have not been able to feed ourselves for at least 150 years or so. The truth is we have committed a massive case of self harm that will probably take 20 years at best to resolve
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12/03/2021 18:26:26 5 0
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The "deal" does have a exit/suspend clause something like "consequences of Brexit materially increase the costs of it performing its obligations under this Agreement and/or reduces its income under this Agreement and/or otherwise adversely affects the benefit it derives from this Agreement" giving the EU 45 days notice (works both ways). Just go WTO and exit the deal if it is deemed unworkable!
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12/03/2021 18:54:42 5 0
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The EU are interfering in 1922 border agreed by Irish Free state and British Government,they with Varadkhar have tried to stimy British Exports and slow everything down between Ulster and UK. Let them Foxtrot Oscar or face International courts,they threaten Countries in eU27
977
12/03/2021 19:33:51 1 2
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Lovely sentiments - totally out of step with reality and hopeless in the face of this dishonest, populist government who couldn't manage a pee up in a beer factory even if they wanted to and claim to have 'got something done' which is turning into the predicted disaster. As the man himself said: "F**k Business! Our vaccination prog. is being managed by competent people DESPITE Johnson and Co.
12/03/2021 19:50:39 0 0
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Agreed
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12/03/2021 15:15:39 1 0
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Why is Denmark's graft not shown, which tends to show the same peak and drop off?
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12/03/2021 15:21:43 2 0
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You know of bribery in Denmark?
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12/03/2021 15:23:21 0 0
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I hadn't realised that the Danes were so corrupt.
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12/03/2021 15:16:03 3 4
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It's all about money.
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Ian
12/03/2021 15:16:19 228 27
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We ?? AstraZeneca ??
We ?? Pfizer ??
We ?? Moderna ??
We ?? Johnson & Johnson ??

Vaccines are a product of science, which know no national boundaries, only love for humankind.

?? Science is helping us move forward into a new, brighter future ??
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12/03/2021 15:21:26 31 61
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SCIENCE does NOT operate in a VACUUM - he who pays the piper calls the tune!
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12/03/2021 15:27:28 10 2
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What about Sputnik V ??

The most effective and cheapest of them all?
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12/03/2021 15:43:32 2 10
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and Johnson.
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12/03/2021 16:34:39 5 19
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That's why human trials are normally held for 10+ years to eliminate adverse side effects. Science is not flawless. Reserve your declaration of love for a few years. You can hope in tge mean time. God bless
Tom
12/03/2021 19:54:24 1 2
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That's like a line from 1984 appropriately enough.
13/03/2021 03:57:25 0 0
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We ?? Novavax ??

The latest Novavax results are better than for any of the other vaccines, and their vaccine has been trialled against the Kent and South African variants. The UK has ordered 60 million doses, which will be manufactured in Billingham, Teesside.
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12/03/2021 15:16:24 80 9
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The politicians who claim that the AZ vaccine is unsafe are just politicking. The sad thing is that they are politicking with their people's lives! Shame on them.
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12/03/2021 18:29:22 3 31
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Where's your evidence to prove this? You're obviously a better scientist than some of those in the EU so I'd like to see your research please.
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12/03/2021 15:13:05 3 5
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You had to sit down, I just walked out, why did you need to sit down?
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12/03/2021 15:16:25 6 0
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I was driving mate. That's why
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12/03/2021 15:11:53 6 16
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A year since the PM told us all to wash our hands and keep socially distant and keep social contact to a minimum.

A journalist then asked: 'Will you be seeing your mother on Mother's Day Prime Minsiter?'

'Of course!' he replied

The competence to lead the Govt through a pandemic was clear to see very early on. If only he'd attended the COBRA meetings in the weeks before...
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12/03/2021 15:16:01 2 9
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A quick perusal of the AstraZeneca rap sheet at the US Supreme Court might make you think twice!
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12/03/2021 15:09:14 54 8
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Part of this is countries following medical practices & procedures, I.e. going on side of caution, however, there is an equal measure of politics and several EU countries simply not wanting to acknowledge our success (for once!)..
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12/03/2021 15:17:36 6 1
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I'm not sure this is cautious though.
Of course, not offering any vaccine is cautious with respect to the risks it may pose (which seem to be small for the coronavirus vaccines), but it comes at a cost of not getting the protection from coronavirus.
Based on the likelihoods, this may look more reckless than cautious
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12/03/2021 15:14:26 6 2
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I had the AZ vaccine about 3 weeks ago now. Went to my GP yesterday after feeling unwell and was immediately diagnosed with Ligma.
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Ligma? Nuts!
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I can't believe that this post has been left so long unmoderated. There's truly no rhyme or reason as to what grinds their gears eh?
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12/03/2021 15:18:21 3 1
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Can you see what's coming yet BBC? Everything you do is being watched :D
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12/03/2021 15:21:52 2 2
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Sorry to break the bad news, but nobody gives a damn ssit what you do. Contrary to your conviction for the opposite, the universe doesn't spin around you.
Many slam the UK on the other article about Brexit trade.

The fact is that the EU are now actively looking to block and tarnish UK trade.

The best thing the UK can do is to support its own manufacturers, buy British where possible and to focus on innovation and creating the best products.

Truth and hard work will prevail in the end.
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Well said??
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Well said!
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12/03/2021 15:07:32 419 40
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A lot of European countries have this weird anti-British complex about the AstraZeneca vaccine and seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it.

Blood clots are unfortunately fairly common, out of 3 million receiving a vaccine, if 30 subsequently develop a blood clot within 1-2 weeks, this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine.
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12/03/2021 15:18:57 37 24
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Somewhat like dying within 28 days of testing positive for COVID-19
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A year since the PM told us all to wash our hands and keep socially distant and keep social contact to a minimum.

A journalist then asked: 'Will you be seeing your mother on Mother's Day Prime Minsiter?'

'Of course!' he replied

The competence to lead the Govt through a pandemic was clear to see very early on. If only he'd attended the COBRA meetings in the weeks before...
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And this has what to do with the AZ vaccine?
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I had the AZ vaccine about 3 weeks ago now. Went to my GP yesterday after feeling unwell and was immediately diagnosed with Ligma.
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Terrible illness, especially for Fortnite fans. :)
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12/03/2021 15:19:14 71 1
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The WHO won't get fooled again.
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12/03/2021 15:35:21 34 1
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But they sure a mean Pinball
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They can also see for miles and miles.
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12/03/2021 15:53:38 7 0
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Didn't they die before they got old?
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12/03/2021 19:24:28 3 0
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I really wanna know...WHO are you? Who? Who? Who? Who?
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12/03/2021 19:25:51 1 1
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They're probably too busy looking at Pictures of Lilly ?????????
12/03/2021 19:54:23 2 0
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Not in my generation
12/03/2021 22:11:05 0 0
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My Generation says "Let's See Action"
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12/03/2021 15:07:10 438 28
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Having mine tomorrow morning - absolutely no hesitation.
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My wife is on Sunday, I am next Thursday.
Bring it on.
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12/03/2021 15:34:32 20 5
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Good luck to you and thanks for queuing / waiting in line
It's the best day you'll have had for many a month
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12/03/2021 15:11:31 391 31
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Isn't it strange that any issues with Astra Zeneca vaccine are highlighted yet any with Pfizer or Moderna are swept under the carpet. Is it anti British sentiment or is it business talk? Remember AZ is being sold cheaper and at cost, the others are being sold for profit!
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AND, yet, they managed to trouser over ONE BILLION in profits?
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How dare they ... obviously in your world everyone should work free of charge and profit is a dirty word.

Have you mentioned to your boss that you'll work for nothing ?
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12/03/2021 15:31:49 67 1
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They do sell many other products, where they can make their large profits.
Give credit where its due.
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12/03/2021 15:36:35 43 1
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AZ do make other very successful drugs that benefit the UK and add to our gdp.
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12/03/2021 15:28:41 24 1
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Worth 100 billion at least for what it can do.
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12/03/2021 15:52:59 35 3
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Have you any idea of the financial risks these days, it costs close to £1bn to successfully bring a drug to market and close to a similar loss should you experience a late stage failure ? It's a high risk business.
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Not from the vaccine they haven’t so your comment is outrageous and wrong.
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liar
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12/03/2021 16:03:39 24 0
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When you understand how they work you wILL understand why. I had the pleasure to work on 3 of their facilities (building them). The work they do is mind boggling and the scientists absolutely amazing. Years of dedication into research to cure what we once thought incurable. That £1Bn allows them to invest more into better facilities and people so these cures are possible. Yours is a poor comment
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12/03/2021 16:11:50 7 0
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Excellence costs. Personally I'm quite content that Pharmaceutical companies make profits if they can do what they've achieved with the Covid-19 vaccine.

Presumably you'd nationalise these industries?
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It is called capitalism fella
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12/03/2021 16:23:27 10 0
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They do sell thousands of other products, or did you think they just appeared last year?
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12/03/2021 16:29:46 5 0
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FYI, Astra Zeneca do make other products!
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12/03/2021 16:57:08 6 0
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The AZ vaccine is being sold not for profit during the pandemic at £3 a shot. They do produce other medications and as a private company they are supposed to make a profit.
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12/03/2021 17:14:04 3 0
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Apart from the vaccine is being sold at cost price, i.e. NO profit.
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12/03/2021 17:14:46 2 1
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Yet they claim it’s been done at cost price. Imagine how much the other companies must be making!
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12/03/2021 17:53:58 3 0
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I was going to ask if you realised that AZ are a drug manufacturer but you probably think that they were just set up to make this particular vaccine.
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12/03/2021 18:16:29 2 0
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If you're talking AZ it is a huge drug company not just making covid vaccine. Unless you're a communist country profits are allowed and provide for r&d as well as pension funds money.
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A lot of European countries have this weird anti-British complex about the AstraZeneca vaccine and seem suspiciously keen to spread fake news about it.

Blood clots are unfortunately fairly common, out of 3 million receiving a vaccine, if 30 subsequently develop a blood clot within 1-2 weeks, this is no more than would be expected in 3 million people who had not received the vaccine.
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Its very simple EU messed up on ordering vaccine, so any chance they have to delay or suggest its not working, allows more time to get vaccine and they can say delay is due to acting cautiously or being safe. Its simply a cover. In a short while they will say all is OK we can start using again...
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Make-believe.
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12/03/2021 16:54:08 20 0
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V. true. I'm in France, vaccination is a shambles. In our town only 80 vacs per day, ridiculous. In NE FR they may have to lockdown as health service in worse state than NHS was last March. FR says AZ is fine, FR has to, they are short of doses and if they stop AZ the population will revolt. Rest of EU not much better. UK is doing fine now, why knock it?
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12/03/2021 15:20:55 19 2
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The risk of a blood clot being caused by the AZ vaccine is miniscule - even compared to the relatively small risk of dying from covid.
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12/03/2021 15:28:18 2 1
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Try to look at the bigger picture .. There are new upgraded insights about covid . These mutations in the UK did come out of nothing .
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Shame that the WHO destroyed all their credibility for the sake of Chinese money. No one will listen to them anymore.
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12/03/2021 15:20:59 9 9
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Hey Nick,

Just a thought: try having an original idea for yourself.

You might think it makes you more worldly to regurgitate gibberish spewed out by the Mail but that only impresses your mates down at 'Spoons. You have made the mistake of posting on a website, which grown-ups populate....
12/03/2021 20:52:46 1 0
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Are you saying you're happy with how the WHO handled the start of the pandemic?
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Jon
12/03/2021 15:21:18 3 0
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I had the Pfizer vaccine. Apart from a bit of stiffness, I'm fine.
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I had a couple of really rough days with it, better than contracting Covid though.
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Sure it wasn't Viagra you were given?
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Lucky you
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12/03/2021 15:21:20 3 0
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Had mine 26 days ago
It's getting better every day but don't let love tear us apart
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12/03/2021 15:15:39 1 0
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Why is Denmark's graft not shown, which tends to show the same peak and drop off?
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12/03/2021 15:21:43 2 0
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You know of bribery in Denmark?
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12/03/2021 15:18:21 3 1
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Can you see what's coming yet BBC? Everything you do is being watched :D
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12/03/2021 15:21:52 2 2
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Sorry to break the bad news, but nobody gives a damn ssit what you do. Contrary to your conviction for the opposite, the universe doesn't spin around you.
Many slam the UK on the other article about Brexit trade.

The fact is that the EU are now actively looking to block and tarnish UK trade.

The best thing the UK can do is to support its own manufacturers, buy British where possible and to focus on innovation and creating the best products.

Truth and hard work will prevail in the end.
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12/03/2021 15:22:11 18 32
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But AstraZeneca is Swedish

Dont you understand that?
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12/03/2021 16:17:11 29 6
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Nonsense.
AstraZeneca was form from a merger between Astra (Sweden) and Zeneca (UK) and is headquartered in Cambridge, UK with shares traded on UK stock exchange. They have R&D in UK, Sweden and many other places.
Don’t YOU understand that?
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12/03/2021 16:45:07 16 0
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UK/Swedish - a merger of Astra (Swedish) and Zeneca (UK). HQ in London
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12/03/2021 18:19:28 8 1
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Joint UK/Swedish. Oxford is definitely UK.

Your point is?
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12/03/2021 19:20:45 5 0
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Anglo-Swedish, do you understand that ? Oxford is in England as well.
Get your facts right idiot.... % UK % Swedish Removed
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12/03/2021 15:22:40 4 1
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The corona vaccine developed in the Netherlands from the Janssen company in Leiden has received a positive opinion from the European Medicines Agency . But ... Do a search for this about vaccines : Geert-vanden-Bossche
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I can't help think that the EU are almost trying to trip up the Oxford vaccine just because it was developed by us. Every time there is an EU country flagging up that the vaccine is not working, the WHO and rest of the world just get on with vaccinations.

The EU are having a second spike whilst we calmly get on with vaccination and numbers coming down.
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But AstraZeneca are a EU company from Sweden
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12/03/2021 15:36:00 33 1
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And oxford is in England!
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12/03/2021 15:39:18 52 1
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Astrazeneca was the result of a merger between Astra of Sweden and Zeneca of the UK which was the spun out pharmaceutical, specialities and agrochemicals division of ICI in a 55% to 45% ratio in Zeneca's favour. The agrochemicals and specialities divisions were divested to leave it as a pure pharmaceuticals business.

Now you know.
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12/03/2021 15:50:15 24 0
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Based in the UK from the remnants of Fisons and ICI. Astra was a Swedish company, with Zeneca being the fusion of several British pharma companies.
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12/03/2021 16:14:46 28 0
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AstraZeneca plc is a British-Swedish company with it's headquarters in Cambridge England
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12/03/2021 16:19:30 19 5
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No it’s not.
AstraZeneca is a UK company, headquarters and shares both in UK.
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12/03/2021 16:21:18 24 1
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Nope. AZ are a *global* company whose HQs are in UK & Sweden.
I love how the FBPE brigade see the world only in terms of a binary division between UK and EU, as if everything beyond the boundaries of the Europe were 'Terra incognita'.
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12/03/2021 16:23:54 19 0
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No Anglo-Swedish and the vaccine was developed by Oxford University
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12/03/2021 16:47:51 4 1
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Keep going; you may even convince yourself it's totally Swedish
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12/03/2021 17:01:42 4 3
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They are predominantly Beitish with a tie up with a Swedish company. The EU are deliberately trying to scupper the AZ vaccine because of their argument over vaccine supplies.
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12/03/2021 17:45:17 0 2
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Vote it down and you don't have to believe it, LOL
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12/03/2021 17:49:19 7 2
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And Oxford University is in the UK... so what? Perception is what's important here. The AZ vax is perceived as British, therefore rubbishing it is an effective way to rubbish the Brits. Plus, a large part of the negative spin has been about how quickly the UK approved it for use compared to how slowly the EU did.
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AstraZeneca are a company formed from the merger of Swedish Astra and British Zeneca with its headquarters in the U.K. it has three main research centres in the U.K./Sweden/USA.
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12/03/2021 19:39:29 0 0
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Don't say that, you'll upset the xenophobic Brexiteers, especially if you tell them that Sweden is in the EU!
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Anglo Swedish HQ Cambridge and quoted on London exchange.
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Wrong
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Get your facts right before you make silly comments. UK / Swedish..... but hey why bother with the truth when you can snipe....
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No, it's a joint EU/British venture. You're right that it's not purely a British company, but neither is it a purely EU one.
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Why is Denmark's graft not shown, which tends to show the same peak and drop off?
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I hadn't realised that the Danes were so corrupt.
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Well this means the EU can give up all their AstraZeneca doses to the developing countries who will happily accept them.
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They have been. So far the EU has donated over 25 million doses.the uk on the other hand........
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12/03/2021 15:32:58 35 4
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"the UK on the other hand...."

... Is one of the leading countries in the world when it comes to percentage of its population vaccinated already

Maybe would ought to try recognising achievements rather than being pessimistic and self-righteous?
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12/03/2021 18:28:29 3 0
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lol. put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard.
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12/03/2021 19:32:41 1 0
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--------has already made major payments to WHO Covax funds and will donate vaccines not required by UK citizens.
Excess vaccines in the EU when their programme of vaccination is complete sometime next year will be available to those with the largest well filled brown envelopes of US$
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The UK paid money to build EU's vaccine plants (EU didn't) and the UK is largest contributor to Covax. Then what vaccine did the EU 'donate' - the Pfizer one of which France reckons they may have lost up to 30% because of the -70c storage requirement? 3rd world ain't going to be using up much Pfizer at 9 times price of AZ and 30%+ loss rate.
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Think of all the "thromboembolic events" that have been prevented by the reduction in international flying.
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12/03/2021 15:24:43 18 0
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Vaccine nationalism aside, hopefully all countries can speedily vaccinate their population.

Not only for public health, but our economic recovery depends on the world economy also recovering.
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Sorry, far too rational for HYS. You're supposed to hate foreigners, especially EU ones.
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Astra Zeneca must rue the day they agreed to supply their vaccine to the EU.
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Astra Zeneca should then honor the contract they signed with the EU. The EU signed this contract a day before the UK did yet the UK received all their promised orders whereas the EU did not. Therefore I understand why the EU are so angry as a result of this
Israel will answer the vaccine issue once and for all in about 8 weeks time

We can see from the results coming out of Brazil not only are they getting re infected
a second time but also a third and forth time now .

only time will tell now

the only thing for sure is if you don't have a vaccine you have a 0.5% chance of dying
same chance as taking the vaccine

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I got chills, they’re multiplying
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are you losing control ?
Many slam the UK on the other article about Brexit trade.

The fact is that the EU are now actively looking to block and tarnish UK trade.

The best thing the UK can do is to support its own manufacturers, buy British where possible and to focus on innovation and creating the best products.

Truth and hard work will prevail in the end.
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12/03/2021 15:26:07 14 5
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Yep ??
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Again,,,, political move from the EU,,, absolutely shameful, the mobs organization use any possible trick to make it difficult for the UK,,, typical mobs revenge style
Nothing wrong with AZ vaccine , they need a scapegoat to justify their absolute and evident incompetence
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We ?? AstraZeneca ??
We ?? Pfizer ??
We ?? Moderna ??
We ?? Johnson & Johnson ??

Vaccines are a product of science, which know no national boundaries, only love for humankind.

?? Science is helping us move forward into a new, brighter future ??
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SCIENCE does NOT operate in a VACUUM - he who pays the piper calls the tune!
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