New Sawgrass rule thwarts DeChambeau
10/03/2021 | sport | golf | 395
The PGA Tour introduces an internal out-of-bounds at Sawgrass to ensure Bryson DeChambeau does not take an unusual route to the 18th green at this week's Players Championship.
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10/03/2021 13:23:08 3 1
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He sounds like a thoughtful politic guy. Not saying the obvious that the stands are there to stop him. Talk about kicking the can down the road.
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10/03/2021 13:28:26 4 1
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Nice to have 6 hours of coverage today before the tourney even begins. Outside of yesterday’s coverage.

If he takes that shot on then I don’t see the benefit of having to hit across water to pins that would be tucked close to the water. But you can’t have someone smashing it into crowds intentionally
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10/03/2021 13:32:17 3 0
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Doesn't look too far. He should go directly at the green.
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10/03/2021 14:06:00 2 0
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It looks to me like a classic case of risk and reward. You can gain a lot by hitting a long tee shot, but the further you try to hit it, the greater the risk presented by the water. Should make for some fun if it is still close at the end of the last round.
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10/03/2021 13:35:36 67 0
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why not include an OHV map to highlight the point
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10/03/2021 15:44:50 40 17
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Come on this is the BBC ..they dont do sport (especially live, unless its womens sport) to please the people.. they bobit only to line the pockets of the presenters and hangers on ..
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10/03/2021 20:36:38 1 0
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ive just google mapped the holes and yes it possible lol. Dont fancy the 2nd shot though.
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10/03/2021 13:36:18 3 3
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Bryson has certainly stirred the pot,I think it’s great and exciting, if Rory can get his short iron play working, Bryson will be in his wake at Sawgrass!
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10/03/2021 13:38:35 10 3
bbc
Based on the last two years its not likely!
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10/03/2021 13:44:46 2 4
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Doubt that very much.... He is finished and been on the slide for two years now.
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10/03/2021 14:53:45 1 2
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I fear Rory refuses to face reality ... he needs a caddie... a real caddie ... at the moment he has his mate carrying his clubs....
If Harry got fired tomorrow ... no top player would want him as their caddie ....
Come on Rory ... get a caddie who help you when things aren’t going well ,save a couple of shots .. anyone can caddie when you’re playing well.. but when it’s not ???
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10/03/2021 13:37:30 21 12
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Why waste a HYS on this nothing story?
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10/03/2021 14:03:51 16 11
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This the BBC website, it's full of nothing stories nowadays
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10/03/2021 14:11:52 7 4
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Who's forcing you to comment on this?

Call the police if someone is holding you hostage.
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10/03/2021 15:50:11 0 3
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Bryson is the future of golf. So alot of articles will be about him.
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10/03/2021 16:26:09 2 6
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And yet you felt the need to comment. Narcissistic much?
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10/03/2021 13:37:49 5 4
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Spoilsports.
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10/03/2021 13:36:18 3 3
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Bryson has certainly stirred the pot,I think it’s great and exciting, if Rory can get his short iron play working, Bryson will be in his wake at Sawgrass!
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10/03/2021 13:38:35 10 3
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Based on the last two years its not likely!
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10/03/2021 13:49:56 4 0
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Based on the last two years absolutely: last year there wasn't a tournament, the year before Rory won!
See borey said he needs a spark a couple of days ago, now he states the best years are ahead, the guy is slightly deluded. There will be another bottle job come Sunday, same old same old with this guy.... Removed
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10/03/2021 13:53:58 1 3
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totally agree - talks a great story. 55
Same old drivel from boring bod Removed
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10/03/2021 13:36:18 3 3
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Bryson has certainly stirred the pot,I think it’s great and exciting, if Rory can get his short iron play working, Bryson will be in his wake at Sawgrass!
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10/03/2021 13:44:46 2 4
bbc
Doubt that very much.... He is finished and been on the slide for two years now.
Boring bod, same post for the 100th time Removed
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10/03/2021 13:46:23 6 0
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Courses do have internal OOB, more often the case to prevent a sneaky shortcut.; but if hosting a pro tournament then the OOB does not apply. i have not heard any plausible explanation.
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10/03/2021 14:02:48 15 0
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"Spectator safety" is of course a gigantic cop-out. Why not be honest and state the obvious that golf is meant to be played within the spirit of the game i.e using the fairways and greens provided for each hole.
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10/03/2021 13:46:48 36 3
bbc
To be fair hitting deliberately onto another hole does sound like cheating. If it was over the water and onto the green then obviously no problems.
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10/03/2021 13:54:43 14 2
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To be fair I smash it down the wrong fairway (that you can see people on) to take OOB out of play. Gives me a nightmare of a shot in mind you but I’d prefer making bogey that than 3 off the tee.

Still don’t see the logic in BDC playing from there either. Like he said in the article but the BBC are just going down the click bait route.
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10/03/2021 14:25:02 1 1
bbc
Well you'd better make that comment about all pro golfers then. There are several holes at well known venues where players have historically hit onto other fairways to get a better position.
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10/03/2021 14:36:09 3 0
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It's in place at our course. OOB for the members but at the annual Pro-Am it's removed to allow the pros to smash it onto the next fairway for a better line into the green
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10/03/2021 18:57:48 1 1
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It was fine when Eldrick done it!
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10/03/2021 20:52:43 2 2
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I don't blame him for looking at the option . after all Seve deliberately drove into the temporary car Park at Lytham to avail an easier second shot as he was given relief , and went on to lift the claret jug .
ps I was on the side of the 18th Green that day .
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11/03/2021 16:08:10 0 0
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How is it cheating? It's just taking advantage of a badly designed course! There's a few holes at my track where you can play onto another fairway
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10/03/2021 13:47:49 12 2
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BDCs ability to hit huge distances might finally make the R&A changes the rules and reduce the distance the ball travels.
Whilst it was entertaining to watch him drive over the lake last week, it made a nonsense of a par 5.
Perhaps he could have kept schtum about the 18th this week. Might have been fun to watch.
Did he eagle the hole every time? Nope. And did he win Augusta by 10 shots? Nope. So stop whinging. Removed
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10/03/2021 13:55:35 6 1
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Did he eagle the hole every time? Nope. And did he win Augusta by 10 shots? Nope. Go figure.
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10/03/2021 13:38:35 10 3
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Based on the last two years its not likely!
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10/03/2021 13:49:56 4 0
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Based on the last two years absolutely: last year there wasn't a tournament, the year before Rory won!
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10/03/2021 13:47:49 12 2
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BDCs ability to hit huge distances might finally make the R&A changes the rules and reduce the distance the ball travels.
Whilst it was entertaining to watch him drive over the lake last week, it made a nonsense of a par 5.
Perhaps he could have kept schtum about the 18th this week. Might have been fun to watch.
Did he eagle the hole every time? Nope. And did he win Augusta by 10 shots? Nope. So stop whinging. Removed
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10/03/2021 13:55:41 0 5
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What’s that billy huh?? What??
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10/03/2021 13:52:28 4 3
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Spoilsports
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10/03/2021 13:55:30 8 0
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Just realised I posted an identical tweet to Leslie Thornton. I’m away to lie down.
See borey said he needs a spark a couple of days ago, now he states the best years are ahead, the guy is slightly deluded. There will be another bottle job come Sunday, same old same old with this guy.... Removed
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10/03/2021 13:53:58 1 3
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totally agree - talks a great story. 55
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10/03/2021 14:20:03 4 1
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I'm sure both of you have achieved so much more than Rory has over the years. I mean he's a disgraceful 11th in the world these days! Stop being so bitter towards somebody you don't even know
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10/03/2021 13:46:48 36 3
bbc
To be fair hitting deliberately onto another hole does sound like cheating. If it was over the water and onto the green then obviously no problems.
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10/03/2021 13:54:43 14 2
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To be fair I smash it down the wrong fairway (that you can see people on) to take OOB out of play. Gives me a nightmare of a shot in mind you but I’d prefer making bogey that than 3 off the tee.

Still don’t see the logic in BDC playing from there either. Like he said in the article but the BBC are just going down the click bait route.
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10/03/2021 14:03:06 3 0
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'The BBC are just going down the click bait route . . '

And doing it successfully it seems ??
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10/03/2021 15:45:38 1 1
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I've played the course in video games and can just about see the logic if you're hitting it as far as Bryson. You can afford to find the rough if you can get it past the tree Shiota mentions, which is at about 305.

Green is shallow attacking from that angle, but I think Bryson trusts his distance control more than his line.
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10/03/2021 13:52:28 4 3
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Spoilsports
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10/03/2021 13:55:30 8 0
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Just realised I posted an identical tweet to Leslie Thornton. I’m away to lie down.
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10/03/2021 15:04:28 1 1
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I don't blame you after reaching such dizzying heights.
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10/03/2021 13:47:49 12 2
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BDCs ability to hit huge distances might finally make the R&A changes the rules and reduce the distance the ball travels.
Whilst it was entertaining to watch him drive over the lake last week, it made a nonsense of a par 5.
Perhaps he could have kept schtum about the 18th this week. Might have been fun to watch.
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10/03/2021 13:55:35 6 1
bbc
Did he eagle the hole every time? Nope. And did he win Augusta by 10 shots? Nope. Go figure.
Did he eagle the hole every time? Nope. And did he win Augusta by 10 shots? Nope. So stop whinging. Removed
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10/03/2021 13:55:41 0 5
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What’s that billy huh?? What??
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10/03/2021 13:58:06 10 16
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everything about this guy irks. always looking to shift any little thing to his advantage, like some kind of street operator, i can't stand him and look forward to his john daly type fade from attention. gimmicks don't last.
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10/03/2021 14:23:13 10 4
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All successful sports people throughout history have sought to find any advantage they can. Your comment is ridiculous.
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10/03/2021 14:25:31 4 4
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Surely "looking to shift any little thing to his advantage" is just the sign of a great competitor and done by the top pros in all sports? He is simply maximising all of the tools at his disposable to be the best at what he does within the rules of the game.

The usual petty, jealous hate from knackersacks who hit it 175 yards dowhill/downwind on a good day.
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10/03/2021 14:29:49 3 3
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What a load of rubbish. Like him or loath him he's something different and fact Sawgrass have brought in a rule just for him suggests they think he's gonna be around a while. If someone is an outrageous putter (through lots of practice, like DeChambeau) will they make the hole smaller?
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10/03/2021 14:01:46 1 1
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Important issues need to be discussed...
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10/03/2021 15:22:15 1 0
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Well go on then.
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10/03/2021 13:46:23 6 0
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Courses do have internal OOB, more often the case to prevent a sneaky shortcut.; but if hosting a pro tournament then the OOB does not apply. i have not heard any plausible explanation.
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10/03/2021 14:02:48 15 0
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"Spectator safety" is of course a gigantic cop-out. Why not be honest and state the obvious that golf is meant to be played within the spirit of the game i.e using the fairways and greens provided for each hole.
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10/03/2021 14:26:07 1 3
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Except that idea is violated at quite a few courses - several of them being links courses in the UK.
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10/03/2021 13:54:43 14 2
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To be fair I smash it down the wrong fairway (that you can see people on) to take OOB out of play. Gives me a nightmare of a shot in mind you but I’d prefer making bogey that than 3 off the tee.

Still don’t see the logic in BDC playing from there either. Like he said in the article but the BBC are just going down the click bait route.
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10/03/2021 14:03:06 3 0
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'The BBC are just going down the click bait route . . '

And doing it successfully it seems ??
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10/03/2021 14:03:22 6 7
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The PGA Tour said the decision was made for the "safety" of spectators.

What spectators are those then?
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10/03/2021 14:07:12 12 1
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20% of normal capacity allowed at a Sawgrass this week. So circa 8,000 spectators in attendance each day.
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10/03/2021 14:07:24 4 3
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There were spectators last week and will for this week, keep up, stay with me...
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10/03/2021 14:16:45 0 6
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mini covid wave on the way, but they are americans of course, y'all
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10/03/2021 14:35:14 1 0
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Dont comment on things you doubt know about.
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10/03/2021 13:37:30 21 12
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Why waste a HYS on this nothing story?
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10/03/2021 14:03:51 16 11
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This the BBC website, it's full of nothing stories nowadays
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10/03/2021 16:08:00 0 2
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Agreed its pointless but try asking for one on the Royal family and no chance
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10/03/2021 13:32:17 3 0
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Doesn't look too far. He should go directly at the green.
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10/03/2021 14:06:00 2 0
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It looks to me like a classic case of risk and reward. You can gain a lot by hitting a long tee shot, but the further you try to hit it, the greater the risk presented by the water. Should make for some fun if it is still close at the end of the last round.
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10/03/2021 14:06:50 4 17
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nothing to do with spectators but bdc
Its his own fault he's doing something different and exciting
But the plus 4s brigade cannot stand it
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10/03/2021 14:16:51 10 2
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Of course it’s to do with safety, of spectators and also players on the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 14:03:22 6 7
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The PGA Tour said the decision was made for the "safety" of spectators.

What spectators are those then?
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10/03/2021 14:07:12 12 1
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20% of normal capacity allowed at a Sawgrass this week. So circa 8,000 spectators in attendance each day.
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10/03/2021 14:03:22 6 7
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The PGA Tour said the decision was made for the "safety" of spectators.

What spectators are those then?
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10/03/2021 14:07:24 4 3
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There were spectators last week and will for this week, keep up, stay with me...
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vwg
10/03/2021 14:08:09 17 1
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I do this all the time when playing golf....unintentionally of course!
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10/03/2021 14:11:12 12 5
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Considering how much sport there is on the BBC these days should they even employ so many sports journalists?
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10/03/2021 14:11:48 33 7
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How about a general rule that you are not allowed to aim intentionally for a fairway of any hole other than the one you re playing?
Surely, the aim of golf (and course designers) is for people to play the course as intended not picking and choosing which holes to play
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10/03/2021 15:47:40 11 0
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Don't play golf (enjoy watching it though and wish I did play). Have to admit I thought that would have already been a rule and seems like slightly cheating if you do it on purpose. Happy to be told otherwise by actual players...
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10/03/2021 16:08:19 1 1
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At St. Andrews players often play to the centre of the course and off 'wrong' fairways.
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10/03/2021 17:34:04 3 0
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And who is going to be the judge and jury of whether the player did or didn't aim intentionally for the wrong fairway? VAR? Get real!
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10/03/2021 17:48:08 2 0
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Disagree. If it is not OOB you can use it. Also, how do you prove intention, a pro could aim straight and just hit a big pull/hook, as could I (though not intentionally :-) ). I'm not really bothered but some golfers consider internal OOBs as an anathema.
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10/03/2021 19:49:39 2 0
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In fact early Scottish courses were just some appropriate terrain with teeing grounds as the starting points and greens with holes as the target. How you negotiated the terrain between them was up to you, part of the strategy of golf. Weather, skill level, imagination all came into play. As is often said, no pictures on the scorecard. Internal out of bounds should be on safety grounds only.
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10/03/2021 13:37:30 21 12
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Why waste a HYS on this nothing story?
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10/03/2021 14:11:52 7 4
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Who's forcing you to comment on this?

Call the police if someone is holding you hostage.
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10/03/2021 14:51:19 6 3
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The BBC don't like us commenting on certain matters

e.g. Meghan & Harry
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10/03/2021 15:24:13 2 5
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Wow - must have taken your brain cell a while to think that one up!
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10/03/2021 17:30:33 3 1
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Nobody, it's called choice!!
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10/03/2021 14:15:58 68 1
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I mean, most of my second shots are from the wrong fairway, but i wouldn't say doing it on purpose is in the spirit of the sport. Maybe a nice middle ground is to make the rough practically unplayable, since bomb and hack is now a legitimate way of winning too. Punish the wayward shots more harshly.
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10/03/2021 18:16:45 4 15
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Why can't they simply introduce more random out of season drugs testing in golf rather than having to come up with nonsense like this?
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11/03/2021 10:57:57 1 0
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Exactly. Often the rough at these courses are like fairways at non championship courses. If the rough was savage it would reward shorter more accurate players. That’s really simple solution
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10/03/2021 14:03:22 6 7
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The PGA Tour said the decision was made for the "safety" of spectators.

What spectators are those then?
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10/03/2021 14:16:45 0 6
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mini covid wave on the way, but they are americans of course, y'all
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10/03/2021 14:06:50 4 17
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nothing to do with spectators but bdc
Its his own fault he's doing something different and exciting
But the plus 4s brigade cannot stand it
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10/03/2021 14:16:51 10 2
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Of course it’s to do with safety, of spectators and also players on the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 14:22:08 0 6
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No it isn't. I have a close relative involved in this decision - I was told it was BDC related.
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10/03/2021 14:36:08 0 4
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no it is not
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10/03/2021 13:53:58 1 3
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totally agree - talks a great story. 55
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10/03/2021 14:20:03 4 1
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I'm sure both of you have achieved so much more than Rory has over the years. I mean he's a disgraceful 11th in the world these days! Stop being so bitter towards somebody you don't even know
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10/03/2021 16:43:03 1 2
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It's a sign of how good Rory is that coming 10th at Bay Hill is seen as failure.
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10/03/2021 13:44:46 2 4
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Doubt that very much.... He is finished and been on the slide for two years now.
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Boring bod, same post for the 100th time Removed
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10/03/2021 14:16:51 10 2
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Of course it’s to do with safety, of spectators and also players on the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 14:22:08 0 6
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No it isn't. I have a close relative involved in this decision - I was told it was BDC related.
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10/03/2021 14:32:01 6 0
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There is a safety element to the decision though....players or spectators wouldn't be expecting balls to come from that direction, accident waiting to happen.....if a junior can do, pretty sure most of the field can too.
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10/03/2021 14:32:22 6 0
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Ok Billy Liar.
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10/03/2021 15:10:37 2 1
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Evidence please. Let’s have some names to back up your statement.
See borey said he needs a spark a couple of days ago, now he states the best years are ahead, the guy is slightly deluded. There will be another bottle job come Sunday, same old same old with this guy.... Removed
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Same old drivel from boring bod Removed
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10/03/2021 13:58:06 10 16
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everything about this guy irks. always looking to shift any little thing to his advantage, like some kind of street operator, i can't stand him and look forward to his john daly type fade from attention. gimmicks don't last.
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10/03/2021 14:23:13 10 4
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All successful sports people throughout history have sought to find any advantage they can. Your comment is ridiculous.
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10/03/2021 13:46:48 36 3
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To be fair hitting deliberately onto another hole does sound like cheating. If it was over the water and onto the green then obviously no problems.
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10/03/2021 14:25:02 1 1
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Well you'd better make that comment about all pro golfers then. There are several holes at well known venues where players have historically hit onto other fairways to get a better position.
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10/03/2021 14:44:30 4 1
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The very home of golf, The Old Course, being a prime example
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10/03/2021 14:25:24 3 10
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Was it Mark Twain who said golf spoils a good walk.
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10/03/2021 14:34:10 13 2
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So why are you reading and commenting on a golf article? Just chasing clicks? Why not flick over to Meghan's articles?
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10/03/2021 14:34:15 2 0
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That is the view of many people who couldn't get the hang of golf.
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10/03/2021 14:34:28 2 0
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Yawn
Don’t know, you seem to be in another century, have you met him? Removed
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10/03/2021 13:58:06 10 16
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everything about this guy irks. always looking to shift any little thing to his advantage, like some kind of street operator, i can't stand him and look forward to his john daly type fade from attention. gimmicks don't last.
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10/03/2021 14:25:31 4 4
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Surely "looking to shift any little thing to his advantage" is just the sign of a great competitor and done by the top pros in all sports? He is simply maximising all of the tools at his disposable to be the best at what he does within the rules of the game.

The usual petty, jealous hate from knackersacks who hit it 175 yards dowhill/downwind on a good day.
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10/03/2021 14:02:48 15 0
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"Spectator safety" is of course a gigantic cop-out. Why not be honest and state the obvious that golf is meant to be played within the spirit of the game i.e using the fairways and greens provided for each hole.
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10/03/2021 14:26:07 1 3
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Except that idea is violated at quite a few courses - several of them being links courses in the UK.
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10/03/2021 13:58:06 10 16
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everything about this guy irks. always looking to shift any little thing to his advantage, like some kind of street operator, i can't stand him and look forward to his john daly type fade from attention. gimmicks don't last.
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10/03/2021 14:29:49 3 3
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What a load of rubbish. Like him or loath him he's something different and fact Sawgrass have brought in a rule just for him suggests they think he's gonna be around a while. If someone is an outrageous putter (through lots of practice, like DeChambeau) will they make the hole smaller?
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10/03/2021 14:35:02 0 3
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Didn't they do that already with Adam Scott??
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10/03/2021 14:30:35 6 1
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Just make everything beyond the spectator rope out of bounds. Or make the rough punitive. I
A drive thirty yards off line should only result in a par following Seve style recovery shots.
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10/03/2021 14:41:01 1 0
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it would encourage spectators to kick the ball back in play. Agree with the OOB though - it can only be played if it rebounds from an already declared immovable object.
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10/03/2021 15:38:14 1 0
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The thing with punitive rough is that it's not actually the best defence against Bryson and his boomstick, especially when it's lining narrow fairways.

When everyone's in the thick stuff, Bryson wins by hitting wedges out of it when others use mid-irons. It's how he won at Winged Foot and we saw it to an extent at Bay Hill too.
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10/03/2021 17:29:37 0 1
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What a stupid idea - have you ever played golf????
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10/03/2021 14:22:08 0 6
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No it isn't. I have a close relative involved in this decision - I was told it was BDC related.
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10/03/2021 14:32:01 6 0
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There is a safety element to the decision though....players or spectators wouldn't be expecting balls to come from that direction, accident waiting to happen.....if a junior can do, pretty sure most of the field can too.
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10/03/2021 14:37:04 1 7
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its all to do with bdc, the plus 4 brigade are out in force
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10/03/2021 14:22:08 0 6
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No it isn't. I have a close relative involved in this decision - I was told it was BDC related.
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10/03/2021 14:32:22 6 0
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Ok Billy Liar.
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10/03/2021 14:34:04 1 14
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An internal OOB is where golf dies. Spectator safety? Why don’t they just ban all fans. Oh wait a minute...
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10/03/2021 14:25:24 3 10
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Was it Mark Twain who said golf spoils a good walk.
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10/03/2021 14:34:10 13 2
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So why are you reading and commenting on a golf article? Just chasing clicks? Why not flick over to Meghan's articles?
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10/03/2021 15:06:05 3 3
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JimmyB - I am now too old and too infirm to play golf but I still take an inactive interest in all manner of sports. Don't be so narrow minded. Do you only read and comment on the sports that you take part in? Or are you a true hypocrite ?
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10/03/2021 14:25:24 3 10
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Was it Mark Twain who said golf spoils a good walk.
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10/03/2021 14:34:15 2 0
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That is the view of many people who couldn't get the hang of golf.
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10/03/2021 14:25:24 3 10
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Was it Mark Twain who said golf spoils a good walk.
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10/03/2021 14:34:28 2 0
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Yawn
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10/03/2021 14:29:49 3 3
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What a load of rubbish. Like him or loath him he's something different and fact Sawgrass have brought in a rule just for him suggests they think he's gonna be around a while. If someone is an outrageous putter (through lots of practice, like DeChambeau) will they make the hole smaller?
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10/03/2021 14:35:02 0 3
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Didn't they do that already with Adam Scott??
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10/03/2021 14:03:22 6 7
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The PGA Tour said the decision was made for the "safety" of spectators.

What spectators are those then?
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10/03/2021 14:35:14 1 0
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Dont comment on things you doubt know about.
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10/03/2021 14:16:51 10 2
bbc
Of course it’s to do with safety, of spectators and also players on the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 14:36:08 0 4
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no it is not
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10/03/2021 13:46:48 36 3
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To be fair hitting deliberately onto another hole does sound like cheating. If it was over the water and onto the green then obviously no problems.
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10/03/2021 14:36:09 3 0
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It's in place at our course. OOB for the members but at the annual Pro-Am it's removed to allow the pros to smash it onto the next fairway for a better line into the green
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10/03/2021 14:32:01 6 0
bbc
There is a safety element to the decision though....players or spectators wouldn't be expecting balls to come from that direction, accident waiting to happen.....if a junior can do, pretty sure most of the field can too.
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10/03/2021 14:37:04 1 7
bbc
its all to do with bdc, the plus 4 brigade are out in force
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10/03/2021 14:40:52 3 0
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Whether it is or isn't about BDC is irrelevant, it's a decision based on safety, sure it might prevent people gaining an advantage, but safety comes first.
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10/03/2021 14:37:04 1 7
bbc
its all to do with bdc, the plus 4 brigade are out in force
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10/03/2021 14:40:52 3 0
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Whether it is or isn't about BDC is irrelevant, it's a decision based on safety, sure it might prevent people gaining an advantage, but safety comes first.
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10/03/2021 15:14:57 0 5
bbc
nothing to do with safety just bdc
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10/03/2021 15:21:32 1 5
bbc
I think the 'safety' argument is rubbish. When playing golf I am far safer when I know someone is hitting towards me rather than a vague shout of 'fore' from God-knows-where. The folks on the 9th would be aware that BDC is hitting towards them and be prepared. As for, 'it's not what the designers intended', well, there is a thing called 'course management' and this is what this is.
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10/03/2021 14:30:35 6 1
bbc
Just make everything beyond the spectator rope out of bounds. Or make the rough punitive. I
A drive thirty yards off line should only result in a par following Seve style recovery shots.
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10/03/2021 14:41:01 1 0
bbc
it would encourage spectators to kick the ball back in play. Agree with the OOB though - it can only be played if it rebounds from an already declared immovable object.
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10/03/2021 14:25:02 1 1
bbc
Well you'd better make that comment about all pro golfers then. There are several holes at well known venues where players have historically hit onto other fairways to get a better position.
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10/03/2021 14:44:30 4 1
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The very home of golf, The Old Course, being a prime example
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10/03/2021 17:36:50 3 0
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St Andrew’s shares some fairways and they’re about a million miles wide. Really, really poor example.
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10/03/2021 14:45:35 3 3
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I like the guy - he thinks differently from the crowd. Doesn’t help his perception by some of his comments, but he certainly isn’t boring and conventional
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10/03/2021 15:54:30 1 1
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I agree he's neither boring nor conventional, but there doesn't seem to be much to like about him either, with his overblown ego and the ridiculous time he takes over many of his shots.
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10/03/2021 14:48:43 10 2
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Nobody talks about the effect BDC had on McIlroy on 6 on Sunday , 2 balls in the water and maybe the macho element that Rory has encouraged to bite off more than he could chew , twice
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10/03/2021 14:53:00 11 7
bbc
He has lost his bottle, does not take Bryson to have an effect on him... the best years are well and truly behind him not ahead....
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DDC
10/03/2021 15:04:22 3 2
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Rory has never been the same golfer since he dropped Titleist clubs.
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10/03/2021 15:53:43 2 5
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It was great comedy. That will always be good in my book.
Been a while since I have seen anybody, pro or amateur, playing FIVE off the tee.
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gg
10/03/2021 18:21:26 2 0
bbc
It was worth it just to see his approach to a couple of feet from 240y for a double and shot of the tournament ????
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10/03/2021 14:11:52 7 4
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Who's forcing you to comment on this?

Call the police if someone is holding you hostage.
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10/03/2021 14:51:19 6 3
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The BBC don't like us commenting on certain matters

e.g. Meghan & Harry
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10/03/2021 14:48:43 10 2
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Nobody talks about the effect BDC had on McIlroy on 6 on Sunday , 2 balls in the water and maybe the macho element that Rory has encouraged to bite off more than he could chew , twice
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10/03/2021 14:53:00 11 7
bbc
He has lost his bottle, does not take Bryson to have an effect on him... the best years are well and truly behind him not ahead....
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10/03/2021 17:31:54 1 2
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Complete choker. 55
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10/03/2021 13:36:18 3 3
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Bryson has certainly stirred the pot,I think it’s great and exciting, if Rory can get his short iron play working, Bryson will be in his wake at Sawgrass!
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10/03/2021 14:53:45 1 2
bbc
I fear Rory refuses to face reality ... he needs a caddie... a real caddie ... at the moment he has his mate carrying his clubs....
If Harry got fired tomorrow ... no top player would want him as their caddie ....
Come on Rory ... get a caddie who help you when things aren’t going well ,save a couple of shots .. anyone can caddie when you’re playing well.. but when it’s not ???
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10/03/2021 14:59:43 2 9
bbc
any pro golfer not sporting a beard gets a 2 shot reward before hitting a ball.
super furry golfers should get their own tour-suffering from beard fatigue
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10/03/2021 15:18:21 6 1
bbc
Can't grow a proper beard, eh? Stick with it, keep trimming it, or find a style that doesn't highlight the patchy bits where yours doesn't really grow.
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10/03/2021 15:25:31 1 1
bbc
And the Ladies tour equivalent 2 shot reward would be.....?
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10/03/2021 14:48:43 10 2
bbc
Nobody talks about the effect BDC had on McIlroy on 6 on Sunday , 2 balls in the water and maybe the macho element that Rory has encouraged to bite off more than he could chew , twice
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DDC
10/03/2021 15:04:22 3 2
bbc
Rory has never been the same golfer since he dropped Titleist clubs.
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10/03/2021 13:55:30 8 0
bbc
Just realised I posted an identical tweet to Leslie Thornton. I’m away to lie down.
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10/03/2021 15:04:28 1 1
bbc
I don't blame you after reaching such dizzying heights.
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10/03/2021 14:34:10 13 2
bbc
So why are you reading and commenting on a golf article? Just chasing clicks? Why not flick over to Meghan's articles?
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10/03/2021 15:06:05 3 3
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JimmyB - I am now too old and too infirm to play golf but I still take an inactive interest in all manner of sports. Don't be so narrow minded. Do you only read and comment on the sports that you take part in? Or are you a true hypocrite ?
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10/03/2021 15:28:06 0 3
bbc
Eddie you are a very narrow minded individual and clearly have no idea of what sports I take part in. The OP clearly was trying to provoke an item that he had no idea and interest in. A bit like you?
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10/03/2021 15:07:13 12 1
bbc
As amateurs we cannot always play the hole as intended but for professionals to play a hole via another is rather ridiculous even though this maybe entertaining to watch!
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10/03/2021 14:22:08 0 6
bbc
No it isn't. I have a close relative involved in this decision - I was told it was BDC related.
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10/03/2021 15:10:37 2 1
bbc
Evidence please. Let’s have some names to back up your statement.
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10/03/2021 15:13:42 40 3
bbc
Judging by the amount of time BDC takes over an 18" putt: marking, cleaning ball, strolling round the hole, picking up ball, studying green contour booklet, replacing ball and finally putting, this latest bit of nonsense will turn a five hour round into a six hour round unless Sawgrass can arrange for a fairly large ferry to take him, his caddie and his ego from the 18th tee to the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 15:20:45 15 1
bbc
brilliant! add to the list DJ caddy prancing about the green adding to the time to take the shot.
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10/03/2021 16:09:29 4 0
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Get rid of green books.
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Ian
10/03/2021 16:24:10 5 0
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The simple way to solve these issues is for the 2 tours to agree a time rule for each shot and apply it.

Punishment should be a penalty shots for 1st offence, 2 for 2and and increasing over the season rather than round or comp. Just imagine Spieth receiving a 16 shot penalty by the we get to the Masters.

Tours scared of upsetting stars so rarely issue punishment.
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10/03/2021 16:24:30 3 3
bbc
The slowest player I have ever seen on the greens is Tiger Woods.

That man looks at the putt from every single angle within a 360 degree circle.

Absolutely painful.
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10/03/2021 14:40:52 3 0
bbc
Whether it is or isn't about BDC is irrelevant, it's a decision based on safety, sure it might prevent people gaining an advantage, but safety comes first.
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10/03/2021 15:14:57 0 5
bbc
nothing to do with safety just bdc
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10/03/2021 15:21:39 4 0
bbc
Safety is a valid concern, as is pace of play. Player has to wait until the other fairway is clear before hitting, and will then be holding players up on the other hole while playing from the wrong fairway.
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10/03/2021 14:59:43 2 9
bbc
any pro golfer not sporting a beard gets a 2 shot reward before hitting a ball.
super furry golfers should get their own tour-suffering from beard fatigue
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10/03/2021 15:18:21 6 1
bbc
Can't grow a proper beard, eh? Stick with it, keep trimming it, or find a style that doesn't highlight the patchy bits where yours doesn't really grow.
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10/03/2021 14:25:24 3 10
bbc
Was it Mark Twain who said golf spoils a good walk.
Don’t know, you seem to be in another century, have you met him? Removed
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10/03/2021 15:13:42 40 3
bbc
Judging by the amount of time BDC takes over an 18" putt: marking, cleaning ball, strolling round the hole, picking up ball, studying green contour booklet, replacing ball and finally putting, this latest bit of nonsense will turn a five hour round into a six hour round unless Sawgrass can arrange for a fairly large ferry to take him, his caddie and his ego from the 18th tee to the 9th fairway.
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10/03/2021 15:20:45 15 1
bbc
brilliant! add to the list DJ caddy prancing about the green adding to the time to take the shot.
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10/03/2021 15:25:11 5 0
bbc
... and Spieth having a long natter about what shot "we" are going to hit
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11/03/2021 13:03:15 0 0
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to be fair to DJ and his caddy; they are as fast as it gets on the tour from tee to green & also, putting requires more precision than any other shot in the game.
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10/03/2021 14:40:52 3 0
bbc
Whether it is or isn't about BDC is irrelevant, it's a decision based on safety, sure it might prevent people gaining an advantage, but safety comes first.
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10/03/2021 15:21:32 1 5
bbc
I think the 'safety' argument is rubbish. When playing golf I am far safer when I know someone is hitting towards me rather than a vague shout of 'fore' from God-knows-where. The folks on the 9th would be aware that BDC is hitting towards them and be prepared. As for, 'it's not what the designers intended', well, there is a thing called 'course management' and this is what this is.
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10/03/2021 15:14:57 0 5
bbc
nothing to do with safety just bdc
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10/03/2021 15:21:39 4 0
bbc
Safety is a valid concern, as is pace of play. Player has to wait until the other fairway is clear before hitting, and will then be holding players up on the other hole while playing from the wrong fairway.
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10/03/2021 15:23:37 0 0
bbc
all about bdc i think
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10/03/2021 14:01:46 1 1
bbc
Important issues need to be discussed...
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10/03/2021 15:22:15 1 0
bbc
Well go on then.
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10/03/2021 15:22:27 20 0
bbc
they do it at St Andrews all the time
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10/03/2021 16:26:31 7 0
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Yes you’re right. Best line in to14th green on the Old is from fifth fairway
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10/03/2021 15:21:39 4 0
bbc
Safety is a valid concern, as is pace of play. Player has to wait until the other fairway is clear before hitting, and will then be holding players up on the other hole while playing from the wrong fairway.
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10/03/2021 15:23:37 0 0
bbc
all about bdc i think
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10/03/2021 14:11:52 7 4
bbc
Who's forcing you to comment on this?

Call the police if someone is holding you hostage.
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10/03/2021 15:24:13 2 5
bbc
Wow - must have taken your brain cell a while to think that one up!
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10/03/2021 15:49:28 1 3
bbc
Didn't realise you were the guru of comedy.

You're not the guru of neurology, though.
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10/03/2021 16:53:07 0 5
bbc
That's one more than you seem to have used - if you aren't interested, why not find something else to do?
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10/03/2021 15:24:19 13 1
bbc
then start time penalties
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10/03/2021 15:26:16 15 0
bbc
The penalties exist, but the PGA tour is very weak when it comes to implementing them
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10/03/2021 15:20:45 15 1
bbc
brilliant! add to the list DJ caddy prancing about the green adding to the time to take the shot.
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10/03/2021 15:25:11 5 0
bbc
... and Spieth having a long natter about what shot "we" are going to hit
That’s the point of your caddie and “we”, unlike borey his caddie has not got a clue so pointless there, good for carrying your bag, spieth hugely successful and lots more to come in majors, the guy has great bottle. Removed
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10/03/2021 19:45:20 3 3
bbc
At least he has a caddie to talk to on such things, unlike your boy borey who uses his pal as a caddie... no wonder he is on the slide.
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10/03/2021 14:59:43 2 9
bbc
any pro golfer not sporting a beard gets a 2 shot reward before hitting a ball.
super furry golfers should get their own tour-suffering from beard fatigue
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10/03/2021 15:25:31 1 1
bbc
And the Ladies tour equivalent 2 shot reward would be.....?
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10/03/2021 15:24:19 13 1
bbc
then start time penalties
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10/03/2021 15:26:16 15 0
bbc
The penalties exist, but the PGA tour is very weak when it comes to implementing them
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10/03/2021 16:32:00 2 0
bbc
Those responsible for enforcing the rules nowadays spend more time analysing reasons why they should not be enforced and possible excuses as to how the rule was broken, than actually imposing the appropriate penalty. When will they realize that this is introducing unnecessary "grey areas" and eroding the integrity of the game?
Simple answer, - break a rule, pay the penalty, no "Whys", no excuses!
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10/03/2021 15:06:05 3 3
bbc
JimmyB - I am now too old and too infirm to play golf but I still take an inactive interest in all manner of sports. Don't be so narrow minded. Do you only read and comment on the sports that you take part in? Or are you a true hypocrite ?
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10/03/2021 15:28:06 0 3
bbc
Eddie you are a very narrow minded individual and clearly have no idea of what sports I take part in. The OP clearly was trying to provoke an item that he had no idea and interest in. A bit like you?
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10/03/2021 15:28:33 6 6
bbc
The only thing thwarting Brian deShampoo is Brian deShampoo. If he tried learning to play golf instead of posturing and assuming, based on nothing, that he is some sort of superstar, the world would be a better place.
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10/03/2021 14:30:35 6 1
bbc
Just make everything beyond the spectator rope out of bounds. Or make the rough punitive. I
A drive thirty yards off line should only result in a par following Seve style recovery shots.
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10/03/2021 15:38:14 1 0
bbc
The thing with punitive rough is that it's not actually the best defence against Bryson and his boomstick, especially when it's lining narrow fairways.

When everyone's in the thick stuff, Bryson wins by hitting wedges out of it when others use mid-irons. It's how he won at Winged Foot and we saw it to an extent at Bay Hill too.
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10/03/2021 16:28:25 1 0
bbc
That wasn't punitive rough. I'm talking about Heather and gorse. Carnoustie style rough.
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RSO
10/03/2021 13:35:36 67 0
bbc
why not include an OHV map to highlight the point
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10/03/2021 15:44:50 40 17
bbc
Come on this is the BBC ..they dont do sport (especially live, unless its womens sport) to please the people.. they bobit only to line the pockets of the presenters and hangers on ..
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10/03/2021 15:59:04 10 16
bbc
And yet here you are, reading and commenting.
And here you are touting the same old rubbish about BBC reports on women's sport only. Your insecurity is tangible. Removed
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10/03/2021 15:44:54 1 0
bbc
Rules are there to keep you on the straight and narrow, that's life !!
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10/03/2021 13:54:43 14 2
bbc
To be fair I smash it down the wrong fairway (that you can see people on) to take OOB out of play. Gives me a nightmare of a shot in mind you but I’d prefer making bogey that than 3 off the tee.

Still don’t see the logic in BDC playing from there either. Like he said in the article but the BBC are just going down the click bait route.
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10/03/2021 15:45:38 1 1
bbc
I've played the course in video games and can just about see the logic if you're hitting it as far as Bryson. You can afford to find the rough if you can get it past the tree Shiota mentions, which is at about 305.

Green is shallow attacking from that angle, but I think Bryson trusts his distance control more than his line.
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10/03/2021 15:47:18 0 3
bbc
This guy is so good they have to change rules to rein him in.

He's ruffling feathers with his advanced methods of building his golf game. Great to see.
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10/03/2021 14:11:48 33 7
bbc
How about a general rule that you are not allowed to aim intentionally for a fairway of any hole other than the one you re playing?
Surely, the aim of golf (and course designers) is for people to play the course as intended not picking and choosing which holes to play
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10/03/2021 15:47:40 11 0
bbc
Don't play golf (enjoy watching it though and wish I did play). Have to admit I thought that would have already been a rule and seems like slightly cheating if you do it on purpose. Happy to be told otherwise by actual players...
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10/03/2021 15:24:13 2 5
bbc
Wow - must have taken your brain cell a while to think that one up!
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10/03/2021 15:49:28 1 3
bbc
Didn't realise you were the guru of comedy.

You're not the guru of neurology, though.
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10/03/2021 16:24:02 4 1
bbc
The sad things is that I wasn't trying to be funny. The HYS link idea was designed to tackle the big topics of the day and get the public talking and listening to other points of view. It costs tax payers money to run it and, in my view, a discussion about the PGA creating an OOB area to protect against a big hitter is a waste. Worthy of a news article no doubt, but not a HYS.
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10/03/2021 13:37:30 21 12
bbc
Why waste a HYS on this nothing story?
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10/03/2021 15:50:11 0 3
bbc
Bryson is the future of golf. So alot of articles will be about him.
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10/03/2021 15:52:06 12 8
bbc
Anybody know if the 4 time major winner from Northern Ireland has found that spark we have read about in 2 different articles yet?

DeChambeau has already said many times that the powers that be can change what they want within the game of golf. All he demands is that the powers that be let him know what the rules are and he will play the game accordingly.

He's a breath of fresh air to our game
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gg
10/03/2021 19:29:06 1 3
bbc
Good to read TW giving RM some stick about his last round, legends having some banter.
When the crowds come back we will see a better RM.
I would be more concerned about your boy Victoria as he has won nothing of interest in his professional career and with the crowds drifting slowly back it won't get any easier.
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11/03/2021 12:21:28 1 0
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wow - what an original comment from you Maksi to have a pop at RM. Why don't you change the tune occasionally? I'm no particular fan of him one way or the other (except when the RC is on) but your diatribe is bordering on obsession.