Air passenger duty: Review planned to cut tax on domestic flights
10/03/2021 | news | politics | 165
Boris Johnson says he wants to see air passenger duties on UK flights fall to help neglected areas.
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10/03/2021 10:38:56 13 12
bbc
There's always money for vanity projects which will never happen like a bridge between Scotland and NI.

There's always money for projects which harm the environment.

That's why there's never enough money for a decent pay rise for NHS workers who have risked their lives for all of us this last year.
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10/03/2021 10:46:02 7 7
bbc
I've made a similar point and expect it to get downvoted too. Expecting Tory voters to take responsibility for their vote? A fool's errand. A tax cut is just another way of handing out money to companies that already pay obscene bonuses to people who don't deserve it while the ordinary worker in this country suffers. Undeniable fact.
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10/03/2021 10:40:26 2 9
bbc
Yes it will help get things moving again
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10/03/2021 13:14:50 0 1
bbc
Ice packs moving south.
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10/03/2021 10:42:18 11 10
bbc
All these lovely tax cuts that go straight into the pockets of the Tory's rich mates while the health care heroes of this country have to put up with a 1% pay increase which is technically a pay cut. I'd love for a Tory voter to explain to me how they think the Tories are "in touch" with the working person when this is how they treat us while filling the pockets of the rich...
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10/03/2021 11:04:42 4 2
bbc
I don't think it's due to the Tories being great why people voted for them. Its because the opposition was so utterly woeful and out of touch that it's more of "best of the bad bunch". Whatever side they are on, they seem to be self serving...
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10/03/2021 10:42:22 4 7
bbc
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
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10/03/2021 11:10:33 1 2
bbc
So if the flight causes less emissions that the alternative you still want to ban all flights?

Surely the idea is to use the least emissions?
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10/03/2021 11:23:58 0 1
bbc
We will have hydrogen and electric planes within 15 years - as long as short sighted turnip eaters don't destroy the aero industry and infrastructure before that comes about.
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10/03/2021 10:43:02 12 10
bbc
"The PM has also committed £20m for rail and road links and a review of a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland"

And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.

I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
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10/03/2021 11:09:09 8 6
bbc
Just because you dont understand the potential doesnt mean that a practical possibilities dont exist.

Personally, I would prefer to see the link from Wales as SNP will sabotage ever step of the process.
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10/03/2021 10:43:04 9 5
bbc
Connections across the UK (and this includes broadband) are key.

Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.

Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.

Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.

Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
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10/03/2021 12:34:36 3 4
bbc
Manchester is most definitely not a world class e-commerce centre
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MVS
10/03/2021 10:43:58 10 8
bbc
I look forward (without much confidence) to a balanced debate on here between those who see the need to facilitate the ease of transport around and between our countries, those who think that we should all remain at home and live on a vegetarian diet, and those who don't have any real views but will simply pour on here to call Mr. Johnson a liar-again! Because they have been programmed to do that.
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10/03/2021 11:06:27 4 5
bbc
There are some who do look at the total emissions of the journey.
Seems as if Boris does, yet a certain segment of the environmentalist will not use common sense because it is Boris who is in favour.
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10/03/2021 10:44:19 9 9
bbc
So building back better was all an illusion.

Once again the environment, and climate change in particular, is pushed down the priority list for short term gain. Flights need to be more expensive, not less, to allow more sustainable methods of travel to compete.
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10/03/2021 10:44:27 6 6
bbc
Flights of fancy nothing Johnson promises ever turns to reality.
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10/03/2021 10:38:56 13 12
bbc
There's always money for vanity projects which will never happen like a bridge between Scotland and NI.

There's always money for projects which harm the environment.

That's why there's never enough money for a decent pay rise for NHS workers who have risked their lives for all of us this last year.
10
10/03/2021 10:46:02 7 7
bbc
I've made a similar point and expect it to get downvoted too. Expecting Tory voters to take responsibility for their vote? A fool's errand. A tax cut is just another way of handing out money to companies that already pay obscene bonuses to people who don't deserve it while the ordinary worker in this country suffers. Undeniable fact.
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10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
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10/03/2021 11:18:54 10 3
bbc
Don't disagree but issues of national importance should be the responsibility of central government. The devolved and regional administrations should deal with issues best handled locally e.g. facilitating home working, universal broadband, mobile phone network etc.
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10/03/2021 11:22:10 1 1
bbc
I think it's still a good stop gap to keep the industry from suffering in the meantime, then it'll either recover international travel or assist the managed decline.

Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
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10/03/2021 11:22:40 1 3
bbc
I'd rather walk from Land's End to John O'Groats than fly, it's the fear of going through an airport that puts me off flying and I can be there quicker than the time it takes to get through to airside, never mind my destination.
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10/03/2021 11:25:39 2 2
bbc
So for many WFH is not possible, I'm just waiting for the GDPR issues to kick off. Which when they do 4% fines will panic businesses to bring people back into the office.

As for rail travel, 1 hr flight to a client vs 10 hrs on train or car?
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10/03/2021 11:59:00 2 4
bbc
Spot on, instead he opts to make air fare cheaper by cutting tax which will impact the environment negatively if rates of flying increase. This is a shocking approach given what we now know about climate change
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10/03/2021 12:58:00 1 1
bbc
So why are the environmentalists so opposed to HS2 then? The Greens will never be happy.
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10/03/2021 16:16:51 0 1
bbc
Rubbish there are lots of internal flights that link remote communties. Fibre broadband and reliable rail will not help me get across the Irish sea to see my children in NI, or workers who have no choice but to travel by plane as their job does not require a computer, such as engineers.
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10/03/2021 10:45:16 6 6
bbc
The pm ‘Pledges support’ operative word being ‘Pledges’ how many of these has he ‘pledged’ over the years only to renege or u turn?.
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10/03/2021 10:55:55 4 7
bbc
The only thing that must be cut is flights, they are destroying our planet. Aircraft must stay grounded perminantly
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10/03/2021 11:03:53 1 3
bbc
You seem to fail that if the flight creates less emissions than the alternatives then it is **green** option. But at a guess from your comments is that you dont understand the total impact is the important issue, not just concentrating on a single issue that you dislike.
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10/03/2021 11:20:13 2 2
bbc
We must all live in caves, wear barbed wire underpants and self flagilate for ever to satisfy the green lobby.
They are like religious extremists and will end up destroying civilisation.
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10/03/2021 10:56:59 6 6
bbc
So "green" is not the way forward ...

It's back to the same old true blue Tory money comes first ideology.
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10/03/2021 10:58:53 3 7
bbc
Another unjustified tax which needs abolishing.
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10/03/2021 11:00:15 12 3
bbc
Reducing APD on domestic flights while at the same time increasing it on foreign travel seems a sensible compromise, but then I don't think APD is a major factor as to whether people fly or not.
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10/03/2021 11:00:41 6 7
bbc
The eco-zealots will cry foul as they fail to understand the basics.

If the flight creates less emissions than the alternative transport then it is the most green.
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10/03/2021 11:06:06 5 5
bbc
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.

The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.

You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
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10/03/2021 11:00:47 4 6
bbc
A sensible idea
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10/03/2021 10:55:55 4 7
bbc
The only thing that must be cut is flights, they are destroying our planet. Aircraft must stay grounded perminantly
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10/03/2021 11:03:53 1 3
bbc
You seem to fail that if the flight creates less emissions than the alternatives then it is **green** option. But at a guess from your comments is that you dont understand the total impact is the important issue, not just concentrating on a single issue that you dislike.
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10/03/2021 11:06:26 1 1
bbc
We'll all be travelling in electric cars, buses & trains a long time before we fly in electric planes.
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10/03/2021 11:00:41 6 7
bbc
The eco-zealots will cry foul as they fail to understand the basics.

If the flight creates less emissions than the alternative transport then it is the most green.
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10/03/2021 11:06:06 5 5
bbc
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.

The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.

You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
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10/03/2021 11:15:20 2 3
bbc
"..greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place,.."

The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.

And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
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10/03/2021 11:17:31 2 3
bbc
Si you suggest we carry on as if locked down for the rest of our lives? That our children and grandchildren don't travel at all?
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10/03/2021 11:06:10 11 6
bbc
Head of Logan Air gave a quite eloquent explanation of this proposal on Ian King live. He said it was about the Derry to Glasgow, Manchester to Belfast , Aberdeen to Shetland, Newcastle to Newquay routes remaining viable which are vital to UK domestic business. Reducing on vital internal routes & increasing on international routes seems to be correct balance environmentally.
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10/03/2021 11:03:53 1 3
bbc
You seem to fail that if the flight creates less emissions than the alternatives then it is **green** option. But at a guess from your comments is that you dont understand the total impact is the important issue, not just concentrating on a single issue that you dislike.
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10/03/2021 11:06:26 1 1
bbc
We'll all be travelling in electric cars, buses & trains a long time before we fly in electric planes.
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10/03/2021 11:17:19 1 1
bbc
Perhaps not. Smaller electric planes are already being tested. Electric cars for the masses is at least a decade away.

So do we dismantle all airports because the electric plane is available now?
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MVS
10/03/2021 10:43:58 10 8
bbc
I look forward (without much confidence) to a balanced debate on here between those who see the need to facilitate the ease of transport around and between our countries, those who think that we should all remain at home and live on a vegetarian diet, and those who don't have any real views but will simply pour on here to call Mr. Johnson a liar-again! Because they have been programmed to do that.
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10/03/2021 11:06:27 4 5
bbc
There are some who do look at the total emissions of the journey.
Seems as if Boris does, yet a certain segment of the environmentalist will not use common sense because it is Boris who is in favour.
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10/03/2021 10:43:02 12 10
bbc
"The PM has also committed £20m for rail and road links and a review of a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland"

And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.

I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
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10/03/2021 11:09:09 8 6
bbc
Just because you dont understand the potential doesnt mean that a practical possibilities dont exist.

Personally, I would prefer to see the link from Wales as SNP will sabotage ever step of the process.
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10/03/2021 12:32:22 4 1
bbc
I come from the south west of Scotland and the bridge will never happen, it's a ridiculous suggestion. No-one wants to be joined to NI for a start.
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10/03/2021 11:09:47 3 4
bbc
Reducing APD on domestic flights seems a good idea to me as part of a plan to get the country moving again. But it should only be a temporary reduction.

The problem is that temporary measures tend to become permanent very easily. Remember income tax? It was introduced as a temporary measure to raise funds for the Napoleonic Wars!
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10/03/2021 11:10:23 11 10
bbc
If Bozo says it, it must be a lie! Politicians in the UK seem to be unaccountable to anybody.
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10/03/2021 15:41:12 1 1
bbc
Unlike the clowns at Holyrood?
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10/03/2021 11:10:28 3 3
bbc
This is actually about the shareholders wanting their usual vast sums of money, or at least a way back to the vast sums of money.
Is the APD an EU invention to cut CO2 gases or an internal UK one thought up by the greenie academics and the uncivil service louts.
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10/03/2021 10:42:22 4 7
bbc
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
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10/03/2021 11:10:33 1 2
bbc
So if the flight causes less emissions that the alternative you still want to ban all flights?

Surely the idea is to use the least emissions?
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10/03/2021 11:11:16 15 10
bbc
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
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10/03/2021 11:21:14 11 7
bbc
Hopefully at some stage voters will see the obvious issues with Drakeford & co.

I have certainly avoided South Wales due to the congestion that is only get worse.
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10/03/2021 11:50:14 2 2
bbc
Alternative means of transport to relieve traffic caused by people who've arrived by car?? Is he nuts? What, are these cars just going to suddenly disappear and everyone and their cargo are just going to magically transfer to a train?

Bonkers.
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10/03/2021 10:42:18 11 10
bbc
All these lovely tax cuts that go straight into the pockets of the Tory's rich mates while the health care heroes of this country have to put up with a 1% pay increase which is technically a pay cut. I'd love for a Tory voter to explain to me how they think the Tories are "in touch" with the working person when this is how they treat us while filling the pockets of the rich...
30
10/03/2021 11:04:42 4 2
bbc
I don't think it's due to the Tories being great why people voted for them. Its because the opposition was so utterly woeful and out of touch that it's more of "best of the bad bunch". Whatever side they are on, they seem to be self serving...
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10/03/2021 11:13:42 33 13
bbc
Boris Johnson has set a world beating target of a 68% reduction in annual carbon emissions by 2030.

Is he going to advertise that on the side of of a plane?
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10/03/2021 13:22:31 6 11
bbc
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.

The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.

We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
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10/03/2021 13:58:42 1 3
bbc
Please let’s Not have another £900k paint job for his jet!
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10/03/2021 11:15:06 13 12
bbc
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.

Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
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10/03/2021 11:18:54 10 8
bbc
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.

Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.

Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
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10/03/2021 11:25:17 2 4
bbc
What exactly are they all smoking
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10/03/2021 11:06:06 5 5
bbc
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.

The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.

You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
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10/03/2021 11:15:20 2 3
bbc
"..greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place,.."

The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.

And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
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10/03/2021 13:48:29 1 1
bbc
I'm not sure how APD affects our need to import. It's there to discourage unnecessary "passenger" flights. Set at correct level it will do it's job, thus avoiding the need for me, or anyone else to make those decisions. That's why it was brought in, that's why it needs to be ramped up, not down.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
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10/03/2021 11:06:26 1 1
bbc
We'll all be travelling in electric cars, buses & trains a long time before we fly in electric planes.
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10/03/2021 11:17:19 1 1
bbc
Perhaps not. Smaller electric planes are already being tested. Electric cars for the masses is at least a decade away.

So do we dismantle all airports because the electric plane is available now?
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10/03/2021 11:06:06 5 5
bbc
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.

The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.

You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
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10/03/2021 11:17:31 2 3
bbc
Si you suggest we carry on as if locked down for the rest of our lives? That our children and grandchildren don't travel at all?
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10/03/2021 13:52:53 1 1
bbc
No I didn't say that, I said they need to be discouraged from unnecessary travel, and that's what the APD is intended to do.
Sadly your grandchildren won't have a world to live in if we don't give up some of the luxuries our "most comfortable of all generations" have taken for granted. Travel, given it's high impact & often trivial nature is probably top of the list.
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10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
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10/03/2021 11:18:54 10 3
bbc
Don't disagree but issues of national importance should be the responsibility of central government. The devolved and regional administrations should deal with issues best handled locally e.g. facilitating home working, universal broadband, mobile phone network etc.
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10/03/2021 11:15:06 13 12
bbc
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.

Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
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10/03/2021 11:18:54 10 8
bbc
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.

Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.

Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
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10/03/2021 11:26:09 3 5
bbc
Aahhh Yes the revenue for the same grasping paws as usual in the vien of "Much wants more"
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10/03/2021 10:55:55 4 7
bbc
The only thing that must be cut is flights, they are destroying our planet. Aircraft must stay grounded perminantly
38
10/03/2021 11:20:13 2 2
bbc
We must all live in caves, wear barbed wire underpants and self flagilate for ever to satisfy the green lobby.
They are like religious extremists and will end up destroying civilisation.
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10/03/2021 11:20:33 8 7
bbc
This will upset Greta.
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10/03/2021 11:11:16 15 10
bbc
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
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10/03/2021 11:21:14 11 7
bbc
Hopefully at some stage voters will see the obvious issues with Drakeford & co.

I have certainly avoided South Wales due to the congestion that is only get worse.
11
10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
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10/03/2021 11:22:10 1 1
bbc
I think it's still a good stop gap to keep the industry from suffering in the meantime, then it'll either recover international travel or assist the managed decline.

Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
11
10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
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10/03/2021 11:22:40 1 3
bbc
I'd rather walk from Land's End to John O'Groats than fly, it's the fear of going through an airport that puts me off flying and I can be there quicker than the time it takes to get through to airside, never mind my destination.
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10/03/2021 11:23:06 8 7
bbc
Bozo the popularist's popularist
There is no bandwagon he won't jump on
The UK 's hole in the roof is £2400bn and he wants to hand out freebies to his mates
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10/03/2021 10:42:22 4 7
bbc
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
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10/03/2021 11:23:58 0 1
bbc
We will have hydrogen and electric planes within 15 years - as long as short sighted turnip eaters don't destroy the aero industry and infrastructure before that comes about.
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10/03/2021 11:24:32 2 4
bbc
Funnily enough all of our illustrious politico's come from the same public school pot followed by Oxbridge!!
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10/03/2021 11:15:06 13 12
bbc
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.

Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
46
10/03/2021 11:25:17 2 4
bbc
What exactly are they all smoking
11
10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
47
10/03/2021 11:25:39 2 2
bbc
So for many WFH is not possible, I'm just waiting for the GDPR issues to kick off. Which when they do 4% fines will panic businesses to bring people back into the office.

As for rail travel, 1 hr flight to a client vs 10 hrs on train or car?
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10/03/2021 11:18:54 10 8
bbc
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.

Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.

Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
48
10/03/2021 11:26:09 3 5
bbc
Aahhh Yes the revenue for the same grasping paws as usual in the vien of "Much wants more"
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10/03/2021 11:37:54 2 4
bbc
Don't know about you but I, like most, don't travel around the country much because it's a very expensive thing to do. Unlike in a lot of other countries where a train ticket will be a tenner and a hotel will be £20, here it's 5x that at minimum.
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10/03/2021 11:27:21 38 4
bbc
We need a rail system as efficient as Japan's, and prices that allow you to freely get around the country without it costing you 1 to 3 day's wages to do so.

When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.

We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
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10/03/2021 13:03:10 10 7
bbc
It's what HS2 is for!
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10/03/2021 15:02:39 3 2
bbc
The cost of rail travel is the ridiculous tax on the fuel (compared to airline fuel).

If rail and air travel were taxed the same, no-one would fly between London and Scotland.
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10/03/2021 11:33:57 7 6
bbc
Boris' plan for a green revolution to power us out of the Pandemic.

Step one: cut aviation tax?
Step two dont lie infront of Bulldozer...
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10/03/2021 11:26:09 3 5
bbc
Aahhh Yes the revenue for the same grasping paws as usual in the vien of "Much wants more"
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10/03/2021 11:37:54 2 4
bbc
Don't know about you but I, like most, don't travel around the country much because it's a very expensive thing to do. Unlike in a lot of other countries where a train ticket will be a tenner and a hotel will be £20, here it's 5x that at minimum.
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10/03/2021 11:41:13 7 7
bbc
Wasn't part of HS2 (and faster rail networks generally) to reduce the need for domestic air traffic. Not only is this inconsistent, it shows the disregard for the environment this government has.

Shame on you Boris Johnson. May our, and your, children forgive us.
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10/03/2021 11:58:40 2 6
bbc
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc

The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
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10/03/2021 11:41:28 10 6
bbc
I support the proposals to cut emissions but we still need a transport system to move people & goods. I have never seen the point of APD as it does not restrict flying nor is the money raised go directly to support transport infrastructure. These loony (can I say that BBC) enviro campaigners want to return us to staying local & become props in a modern day version of the Haywain.
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10/03/2021 11:44:19 7 2
bbc
Is "pledge to review" just a lengthy and expensive way of saying no.
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10/03/2021 11:11:16 15 10
bbc
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
55
10/03/2021 11:50:14 2 2
bbc
Alternative means of transport to relieve traffic caused by people who've arrived by car?? Is he nuts? What, are these cars just going to suddenly disappear and everyone and their cargo are just going to magically transfer to a train?

Bonkers.
56
10/03/2021 11:53:27 4 5
bbc
The cost to our environment and air quality is not paid by passengers or air travel co's - in fact its ignored. I accept we cannot yet, legally lie in front of aircraft to prevent them flying but at least each passenger should be handed an "Eco Vandal" cards says "Card bearer is certified Eco Vandal and deserves to have plastic micro particles pumped through their front door letter box"
52
10/03/2021 11:41:13 7 7
bbc
Wasn't part of HS2 (and faster rail networks generally) to reduce the need for domestic air traffic. Not only is this inconsistent, it shows the disregard for the environment this government has.

Shame on you Boris Johnson. May our, and your, children forgive us.
57
10/03/2021 11:58:40 2 6
bbc
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc

The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
59
10/03/2021 12:04:37 2 1
bbc
"and faster rail networks generally".

Britain is a small country. Trains are perfect for travel, if we invested in the infrastructure. It's quicker too for most longer journeys. The point stands and this is a clear divergence in policy.
74
10/03/2021 13:02:21 0 1
bbc
HS2 will carry trains originating from Edinburgh, Glasgow and Liverpool. Derry and Belfast will be dependant on what Boris does about a bridge between Scotland and Ireland!
11
10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
58
10/03/2021 11:59:00 2 4
bbc
Spot on, instead he opts to make air fare cheaper by cutting tax which will impact the environment negatively if rates of flying increase. This is a shocking approach given what we now know about climate change
57
10/03/2021 11:58:40 2 6
bbc
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc

The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
59
10/03/2021 12:04:37 2 1
bbc
"and faster rail networks generally".

Britain is a small country. Trains are perfect for travel, if we invested in the infrastructure. It's quicker too for most longer journeys. The point stands and this is a clear divergence in policy.
60
10/03/2021 12:10:27 7 4
bbc
It doesn't seem consistent with tackling climate change. At a time when I can board a train at Euston and be in Manchester in two hours, Glasgow in little over four hours by electric power it seems silly to encourage more air travel. For the same journey by air, you have to travel out to Heathrow, get there an hour or so before your flight and then travel into the city at the other end. Madness.
61
10/03/2021 12:26:57 36 7
bbc
We are a compact country . There should be very little need to fly within it. Better rail without paying a £1bn a mile is the answer
91
10/03/2021 13:26:25 9 5
bbc
How do I get a train from Newcastle (UK) to Antrim (UK)? If I could, I would!
157
11/03/2021 00:14:07 0 0
bbc
I have done London to Edinburgh by car, train and jet. All cost roughly the same, about £200 return (it was back when I had a petrol car) but there are pros & cons. Train: I can switch off, work, enjoy the scenery, sleep. Car: I can set off when I like, visit Newcastle on the way, no need for taxis or buses on arrival. Plane: I'm there in a couple of hours (inc check in).

Its about choice.
24
10/03/2021 11:09:09 8 6
bbc
Just because you dont understand the potential doesnt mean that a practical possibilities dont exist.

Personally, I would prefer to see the link from Wales as SNP will sabotage ever step of the process.
62
10/03/2021 12:32:22 4 1
bbc
I come from the south west of Scotland and the bridge will never happen, it's a ridiculous suggestion. No-one wants to be joined to NI for a start.
63
JC
10/03/2021 12:32:50 2 2
bbc
I'm all for a better connected UK and believe we should be investing in the infrastructure and the technology to allow us to travel as freely and as environmentally friendly as possible.
6
10/03/2021 10:43:04 9 5
bbc
Connections across the UK (and this includes broadband) are key.

Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.

Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.

Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.

Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
64
10/03/2021 12:34:36 3 4
bbc
Manchester is most definitely not a world class e-commerce centre
65
10/03/2021 12:42:45 13 8
bbc
Crazy suggestion that contradicts the requirement in law to be zero carbon by 2050
82
10/03/2021 13:09:05 0 8
bbc
Absolutely, enough is enough we need governments to start listening to Greta and putting the environment as the number one issue, or we’re going to end up wiping out ourselves and all other significant species, if not all life.

And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
83
10/03/2021 13:10:08 0 2
bbc
You don't still think this Government pays heed to the law do you?
66
10/03/2021 12:45:28 7 6
bbc
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........

Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
67
10/03/2021 12:47:57 4 12
bbc
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
79
10/03/2021 13:06:09 1 1
bbc
True, but we need a coal mine

Steel is 2% carbon

You don't have to use carbon to reduce the ore, but you can't make an iron-carbon alloy without carbon
87
10/03/2021 13:17:47 1 2
bbc
So you think spending 10 hours on a usually filthy, late, over-priced train to go from Newcastle to Exeter is a good idea then?
66
10/03/2021 12:45:28 7 6
bbc
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........

Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
67
10/03/2021 12:47:57 4 12
bbc
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
73
10/03/2021 13:01:50 2 2
bbc
He didn't mention riding a bike. You imagined that, and came to your own conclusions. Bless.
75
10/03/2021 13:02:43 2 2
bbc
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!

Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
68
10/03/2021 12:48:46 3 4
bbc
Can i have a tax rebate on return journeys i make in my car please?
Air duty needs to increase and increase several times over.
But who cares about carbons, we must protect the airlines for going bust....
69
10/03/2021 12:49:37 2 4
bbc
Johnson doesn't seem to realise that the covid epidemic is the worst economic crisis since the Second World War. Sensible governments would raise taxes but since 2010 all they have done is cut expenditure, and let UK debt increase. Since 2010 corporation tax is 11% down and the top rate of tax is 5% down.
70
10/03/2021 12:55:54 6 8
bbc
I respect your right to care. But can you respect my right not to? I like my 4x4, my travels abroad. I look forward to going on HS2. That is my right. Deal with it.
78
10/03/2021 13:04:16 5 2
bbc
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
109
10/03/2021 14:04:08 1 1
bbc
Do you have the right to negatively affect other people's lives?
When your neighbour puts their music on loud at 3am do you just think "I respect their right", or does your right to peace and quiet suddenly take priority?
The point is, the rights you're wanting to maintain have external costs. Someone somewhere will die as a result of the air quality or climate change implication of your rights.
114
10/03/2021 14:43:12 2 1
bbc
You could argue that until recently you had the right to smack children. Or smoke in public buildings. Or build a house out of asbestos. Or drive without a seat belt.

But we then get the benefit of more data and our opinions change in line with the facts that are available. And the things that we once thought of as rights then appear to be the preserve of the willfully ignorant.
71
10/03/2021 12:57:03 1 4
bbc
I take it the BBC, particularly Mr Harrabin, will not be sending journalists to the next climate conference by air then.
80
10/03/2021 13:08:10 1 2
bbc
Or Flying Bruno Toniloi between LA and London every week? I fly to Los Angeles every week, staying there from Sunday to Wednesday while I’m filming the television series Dancing with the Stars. Then I’m back here in London the rest of the week to do Strictly Come Dancing. The eight-hour time difference is brutal, but you learn to manage it. I grin and bear it to do the two shows that I love.
11
10/03/2021 10:48:55 47 9
bbc
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
72
10/03/2021 12:58:00 1 1
bbc
So why are the environmentalists so opposed to HS2 then? The Greens will never be happy.
67
10/03/2021 12:47:57 4 12
bbc
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
73
10/03/2021 13:01:50 2 2
bbc
He didn't mention riding a bike. You imagined that, and came to your own conclusions. Bless.
57
10/03/2021 11:58:40 2 6
bbc
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc

The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
74
10/03/2021 13:02:21 0 1
bbc
HS2 will carry trains originating from Edinburgh, Glasgow and Liverpool. Derry and Belfast will be dependant on what Boris does about a bridge between Scotland and Ireland!
67
10/03/2021 12:47:57 4 12
bbc
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
75
10/03/2021 13:02:43 2 2
bbc
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!

Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
97
10/03/2021 13:42:22 0 2
bbc
Have you tried getting from London to Aberdeen or Inverness? I hazard a guess not.
49
10/03/2021 11:27:21 38 4
bbc
We need a rail system as efficient as Japan's, and prices that allow you to freely get around the country without it costing you 1 to 3 day's wages to do so.

When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.

We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
76
10/03/2021 13:03:10 10 7
bbc
It's what HS2 is for!
105
10/03/2021 13:57:34 2 1
bbc
??. Total waste of £ that won’t result in cheap fares, so won’t get used.
113
10/03/2021 14:40:38 1 1
bbc
Nonsense HS2 is a vanity project that will wreck the environment and be an expensive way to travel so will only benefit the much better off
77
10/03/2021 13:04:08 3 6
bbc
We need to make air travel more expensive, not cheaper.
I thought Attenborough said the planet was on its deathbed.
70
10/03/2021 12:55:54 6 8
bbc
I respect your right to care. But can you respect my right not to? I like my 4x4, my travels abroad. I look forward to going on HS2. That is my right. Deal with it.
78
10/03/2021 13:04:16 5 2
bbc
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
89
10/03/2021 13:20:58 1 1
bbc
What if it's an all electric 4x4 ?
96
10/03/2021 13:41:19 0 1
bbc
My brand new Volvo 4x4 contributes less to pollution and climate change than pretty much any other car, so I should be paying less road tax by your argument..
66
10/03/2021 12:45:28 7 6
bbc
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........

Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
79
10/03/2021 13:06:09 1 1
bbc
True, but we need a coal mine

Steel is 2% carbon

You don't have to use carbon to reduce the ore, but you can't make an iron-carbon alloy without carbon
71
10/03/2021 12:57:03 1 4
bbc
I take it the BBC, particularly Mr Harrabin, will not be sending journalists to the next climate conference by air then.
80
10/03/2021 13:08:10 1 2
bbc
Or Flying Bruno Toniloi between LA and London every week? I fly to Los Angeles every week, staying there from Sunday to Wednesday while I’m filming the television series Dancing with the Stars. Then I’m back here in London the rest of the week to do Strictly Come Dancing. The eight-hour time difference is brutal, but you learn to manage it. I grin and bear it to do the two shows that I love.
81
10/03/2021 13:08:59 2 1
bbc
Does this mean we can all fly to Newquay at Easter? Yay!
65
10/03/2021 12:42:45 13 8
bbc
Crazy suggestion that contradicts the requirement in law to be zero carbon by 2050
82
10/03/2021 13:09:05 0 8
bbc
Absolutely, enough is enough we need governments to start listening to Greta and putting the environment as the number one issue, or we’re going to end up wiping out ourselves and all other significant species, if not all life.

And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
65
10/03/2021 12:42:45 13 8
bbc
Crazy suggestion that contradicts the requirement in law to be zero carbon by 2050
83
10/03/2021 13:10:08 0 2
bbc
You don't still think this Government pays heed to the law do you?
84
10/03/2021 13:14:18 4 6
bbc
I dispair at the priorities of our government. Yes better transport infrastructure is great but not at the expense of turning Earths atmosphere to that of Venus.

We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.

It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
92
10/03/2021 13:32:17 0 2
bbc
I think you've said it better than I did.

But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
2
10/03/2021 10:40:26 2 9
bbc
Yes it will help get things moving again
85
10/03/2021 13:14:50 0 1
bbc
Ice packs moving south.
86
10/03/2021 13:15:09 5 4
bbc
The bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland sounds like one of Boris's grand projects (remember Boris Island airport?) that makes him look like a visionary leader, when all it creates is a few proposal documents and some consultancy fees, before being quietly dropped in 5 years' time.
99
10/03/2021 13:50:18 0 2
bbc
Never will be a bridge sea bed too deep to build the bridge support towers.
His plan B is to dig a tunnel.
66
10/03/2021 12:45:28 7 6
bbc
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........

Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
87
10/03/2021 13:17:47 1 2
bbc
So you think spending 10 hours on a usually filthy, late, over-priced train to go from Newcastle to Exeter is a good idea then?
88
10/03/2021 13:20:23 1 6
bbc
Cut and fit a piece of carpet around the feet and pretend the entire house is fitted with carpet - this is how the Tory government is currently running the country.
78
10/03/2021 13:04:16 5 2
bbc
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
89
10/03/2021 13:20:58 1 1
bbc
What if it's an all electric 4x4 ?
31
10/03/2021 11:13:42 33 13
bbc
Boris Johnson has set a world beating target of a 68% reduction in annual carbon emissions by 2030.

Is he going to advertise that on the side of of a plane?
90
10/03/2021 13:22:31 6 11
bbc
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.

The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.

We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
94
10/03/2021 13:39:25 9 2
bbc
I agree entirely until the last sentence.

The Green Party unfortunately appears to be the party for disaffected labour people. It's now more radical left than the Labour party. So it can't represent many of the people who want fast action on green issues, but are more conservative on other issues.
100
10/03/2021 13:51:55 3 1
bbc
Except Boris is not a climate change denier
118
10/03/2021 14:58:15 5 2
bbc
Because the Green Party rarely focuses on green issues. They sit well to the left of Labour. Id' vote for them if they focused on green issues only.
126
10/03/2021 15:55:12 1 3
bbc
In Scotland, perhaps it is because the Green Party is just an offshoot of the SNP and props up their incompetence?
Blaming air travel for all environmental issues is an easy hit but is just part of the issue. It should not beyond human ability to have climate neutral air travel and it is an industry that should be supported to evolve.
129
10/03/2021 16:15:30 1 2
bbc
More folk would vote Green if we had a proportional system of representation.
144
10/03/2021 17:52:39 2 2
bbc
I think people don't vote for the Green Party as they have socialist left/wing agenda that is bigger than their green agenda.
It is very unfortunate.
They should be in the middle between left and right.
153
10/03/2021 18:50:17 0 1
bbc
Because they'd bankrupt the country in ten minutes and have everyone living in the middle ages ... is that reason enough ?
61
10/03/2021 12:26:57 36 7
bbc
We are a compact country . There should be very little need to fly within it. Better rail without paying a £1bn a mile is the answer
91
10/03/2021 13:26:25 9 5
bbc
How do I get a train from Newcastle (UK) to Antrim (UK)? If I could, I would!
131
10/03/2021 16:18:40 3 2
bbc
yep the people are responding because they live near a mainline that goes to a relative place they want to get to in a relatively short time, not remote communities or across the Irish sea!
135
10/03/2021 16:56:56 3 3
bbc
After the Brexit shambles Antrim is in a foreign country.
158
11/03/2021 00:55:36 0 0
bbc
If Boris gets his tunnel dug you might be able to.

Currently you probably need a train to Manchester or Liverpool then train to Holyhead for the ferry to Belfast and bus/train to Antrim.

HS3 should be Edinburgh to Belfast? (and built in 3 years, not 30!)
84
10/03/2021 13:14:18 4 6
bbc
I dispair at the priorities of our government. Yes better transport infrastructure is great but not at the expense of turning Earths atmosphere to that of Venus.

We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.

It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
92
10/03/2021 13:32:17 0 2
bbc
I think you've said it better than I did.

But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
95
10/03/2021 13:39:30 1 1
bbc
If we are going to punish aviation as the “big bad business” we had better stop construction, shipping, motor vehicles, electricity generation, farming and countless other activities that contribute more to climate change than aviation....
93
10/03/2021 13:36:50 1 2
bbc
Trains are much greener than planes. Trouble is, they should never have been privatised. Train fairs are plainly an insult. It is cheaper to fly from Exeter to London than to use trains.

I am all for the private sector.... when it makes sense.......
90
10/03/2021 13:22:31 6 11
bbc
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.

The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.

We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
94
10/03/2021 13:39:25 9 2
bbc
I agree entirely until the last sentence.

The Green Party unfortunately appears to be the party for disaffected labour people. It's now more radical left than the Labour party. So it can't represent many of the people who want fast action on green issues, but are more conservative on other issues.
132
10/03/2021 16:19:22 2 2
bbc
The Green Party have realised over the years what the driving forces are behind our determination to damage the planet so it is hardly surprising that they are moving away from libertarian capitalism.
92
10/03/2021 13:32:17 0 2
bbc
I think you've said it better than I did.

But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
95
10/03/2021 13:39:30 1 1
bbc
If we are going to punish aviation as the “big bad business” we had better stop construction, shipping, motor vehicles, electricity generation, farming and countless other activities that contribute more to climate change than aviation....
78
10/03/2021 13:04:16 5 2
bbc
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
96
10/03/2021 13:41:19 0 1
bbc
My brand new Volvo 4x4 contributes less to pollution and climate change than pretty much any other car, so I should be paying less road tax by your argument..
104
10/03/2021 13:57:32 1 1
bbc
I doubt it.
The manufacture of a 4x4 alone immediately puts it at a huge disadvantage to a modest sized car, and unless it's electric or hydrogen fueled, with the electricity or hydrogen coming from 100% renewable, then someone is just making that up or glossing over the complexity of carbon.
75
10/03/2021 13:02:43 2 2
bbc
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!

Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
97
10/03/2021 13:42:22 0 2
bbc
Have you tried getting from London to Aberdeen or Inverness? I hazard a guess not.
155
10/03/2021 20:06:38 0 0
bbc
Traveled to and around Scotland a lot actually. From London and the midlands
33
10/03/2021 11:15:20 2 3
bbc
"..greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place,.."

The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.

And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
98
10/03/2021 13:48:29 1 1
bbc
I'm not sure how APD affects our need to import. It's there to discourage unnecessary "passenger" flights. Set at correct level it will do it's job, thus avoiding the need for me, or anyone else to make those decisions. That's why it was brought in, that's why it needs to be ramped up, not down.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
86
10/03/2021 13:15:09 5 4
bbc
The bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland sounds like one of Boris's grand projects (remember Boris Island airport?) that makes him look like a visionary leader, when all it creates is a few proposal documents and some consultancy fees, before being quietly dropped in 5 years' time.
99
10/03/2021 13:50:18 0 2
bbc
Never will be a bridge sea bed too deep to build the bridge support towers.
His plan B is to dig a tunnel.
90
10/03/2021 13:22:31 6 11
bbc
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.

The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.

We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
100
10/03/2021 13:51:55 3 1
bbc
Except Boris is not a climate change denier
147
10/03/2021 18:29:57 0 1
bbc
In words? Or in actions?