Air passenger duty: Review planned to cut tax on domestic flights
10/03/2021
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Boris Johnson says he wants to see air passenger duties on UK flights fall to help neglected areas.
I've made a similar point and expect it to get downvoted too. Expecting Tory voters to take responsibility for their vote? A fool's errand. A tax cut is just another way of handing out money to companies that already pay obscene bonuses to people who don't deserve it while the ordinary worker in this country suffers. Undeniable fact.
All these lovely tax cuts that go straight into the pockets of the Tory's rich mates while the health care heroes of this country have to put up with a 1% pay increase which is technically a pay cut. I'd love for a Tory voter to explain to me how they think the Tories are "in touch" with the working person when this is how they treat us while filling the pockets of the rich...
I don't think it's due to the Tories being great why people voted for them. Its because the opposition was so utterly woeful and out of touch that it's more of "best of the bad bunch". Whatever side they are on, they seem to be self serving...
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
So if the flight causes less emissions that the alternative you still want to ban all flights?
Surely the idea is to use the least emissions?
Surely the idea is to use the least emissions?
"The PM has also committed £20m for rail and road links and a review of a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland"
And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.
I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.
I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
Connections across the UK (and this includes broadband) are key.
Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.
Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.
Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.
Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.
Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.
Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.
Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
Manchester is most definitely not a world class e-commerce centre
I look forward (without much confidence) to a balanced debate on here between those who see the need to facilitate the ease of transport around and between our countries, those who think that we should all remain at home and live on a vegetarian diet, and those who don't have any real views but will simply pour on here to call Mr. Johnson a liar-again! Because they have been programmed to do that.
So building back better was all an illusion.
Once again the environment, and climate change in particular, is pushed down the priority list for short term gain. Flights need to be more expensive, not less, to allow more sustainable methods of travel to compete.
Once again the environment, and climate change in particular, is pushed down the priority list for short term gain. Flights need to be more expensive, not less, to allow more sustainable methods of travel to compete.
There's always money for vanity projects which will never happen like a bridge between Scotland and NI.
There's always money for projects which harm the environment.
That's why there's never enough money for a decent pay rise for NHS workers who have risked their lives for all of us this last year.
There's always money for projects which harm the environment.
That's why there's never enough money for a decent pay rise for NHS workers who have risked their lives for all of us this last year.
I've made a similar point and expect it to get downvoted too. Expecting Tory voters to take responsibility for their vote? A fool's errand. A tax cut is just another way of handing out money to companies that already pay obscene bonuses to people who don't deserve it while the ordinary worker in this country suffers. Undeniable fact.
The focus should be on things like more affordable and reliable rail travel and improving national fibre broadband rather than on domestic air travel, especially now with remote working potential and green credentials needed.
Don't disagree but issues of national importance should be the responsibility of central government. The devolved and regional administrations should deal with issues best handled locally e.g. facilitating home working, universal broadband, mobile phone network etc.
I think it's still a good stop gap to keep the industry from suffering in the meantime, then it'll either recover international travel or assist the managed decline.
Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
I'd rather walk from Land's End to John O'Groats than fly, it's the fear of going through an airport that puts me off flying and I can be there quicker than the time it takes to get through to airside, never mind my destination.
So for many WFH is not possible, I'm just waiting for the GDPR issues to kick off. Which when they do 4% fines will panic businesses to bring people back into the office.
As for rail travel, 1 hr flight to a client vs 10 hrs on train or car?
As for rail travel, 1 hr flight to a client vs 10 hrs on train or car?
Spot on, instead he opts to make air fare cheaper by cutting tax which will impact the environment negatively if rates of flying increase. This is a shocking approach given what we now know about climate change
So why are the environmentalists so opposed to HS2 then? The Greens will never be happy.
Rubbish there are lots of internal flights that link remote communties. Fibre broadband and reliable rail will not help me get across the Irish sea to see my children in NI, or workers who have no choice but to travel by plane as their job does not require a computer, such as engineers.
The pm ‘Pledges support’ operative word being ‘Pledges’ how many of these has he ‘pledged’ over the years only to renege or u turn?.
The only thing that must be cut is flights, they are destroying our planet. Aircraft must stay grounded perminantly
You seem to fail that if the flight creates less emissions than the alternatives then it is **green** option. But at a guess from your comments is that you dont understand the total impact is the important issue, not just concentrating on a single issue that you dislike.
So "green" is not the way forward ...
It's back to the same old true blue Tory money comes first ideology.
It's back to the same old true blue Tory money comes first ideology.
Reducing APD on domestic flights while at the same time increasing it on foreign travel seems a sensible compromise, but then I don't think APD is a major factor as to whether people fly or not.
The eco-zealots will cry foul as they fail to understand the basics.
If the flight creates less emissions than the alternative transport then it is the most green.
If the flight creates less emissions than the alternative transport then it is the most green.
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
We'll all be travelling in electric cars, buses & trains a long time before we fly in electric planes.
"..greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place,.."
The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.
And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.
And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
Head of Logan Air gave a quite eloquent explanation of this proposal on Ian King live. He said it was about the Derry to Glasgow, Manchester to Belfast , Aberdeen to Shetland, Newcastle to Newquay routes remaining viable which are vital to UK domestic business. Reducing on vital internal routes & increasing on international routes seems to be correct balance environmentally.
You seem to fail that if the flight creates less emissions than the alternatives then it is **green** option. But at a guess from your comments is that you dont understand the total impact is the important issue, not just concentrating on a single issue that you dislike.
I look forward (without much confidence) to a balanced debate on here between those who see the need to facilitate the ease of transport around and between our countries, those who think that we should all remain at home and live on a vegetarian diet, and those who don't have any real views but will simply pour on here to call Mr. Johnson a liar-again! Because they have been programmed to do that.
"The PM has also committed £20m for rail and road links and a review of a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland"
And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.
I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
And where was his proposed route before? Oh yes - right over the trench where we dumped a load of WW2 munitions that may go off.
I wonder where the money will come from after the £bns on the failed test & trace, the £bns on the unwanted HS2 and his £ms for office renovations.
I come from the south west of Scotland and the bridge will never happen, it's a ridiculous suggestion. No-one wants to be joined to NI for a start.
Reducing APD on domestic flights seems a good idea to me as part of a plan to get the country moving again. But it should only be a temporary reduction.
The problem is that temporary measures tend to become permanent very easily. Remember income tax? It was introduced as a temporary measure to raise funds for the Napoleonic Wars!
The problem is that temporary measures tend to become permanent very easily. Remember income tax? It was introduced as a temporary measure to raise funds for the Napoleonic Wars!
If Bozo says it, it must be a lie! Politicians in the UK seem to be unaccountable to anybody.
This is actually about the shareholders wanting their usual vast sums of money, or at least a way back to the vast sums of money.
Is the APD an EU invention to cut CO2 gases or an internal UK one thought up by the greenie academics and the uncivil service louts.
Is the APD an EU invention to cut CO2 gases or an internal UK one thought up by the greenie academics and the uncivil service louts.
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
Hopefully at some stage voters will see the obvious issues with Drakeford & co.
I have certainly avoided South Wales due to the congestion that is only get worse.
I have certainly avoided South Wales due to the congestion that is only get worse.
All these lovely tax cuts that go straight into the pockets of the Tory's rich mates while the health care heroes of this country have to put up with a 1% pay increase which is technically a pay cut. I'd love for a Tory voter to explain to me how they think the Tories are "in touch" with the working person when this is how they treat us while filling the pockets of the rich...
Boris Johnson has set a world beating target of a 68% reduction in annual carbon emissions by 2030.
Is he going to advertise that on the side of of a plane?
Is he going to advertise that on the side of of a plane?
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
I'm not sure how APD affects our need to import. It's there to discourage unnecessary "passenger" flights. Set at correct level it will do it's job, thus avoiding the need for me, or anyone else to make those decisions. That's why it was brought in, that's why it needs to be ramped up, not down.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
We'll all be travelling in electric cars, buses & trains a long time before we fly in electric planes.
Not if the consequence is to encourage unnecessary flights.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
The greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place, and unfortunately that is answer for most of our travel.
You are only seeing the basics that you want to see.
No I didn't say that, I said they need to be discouraged from unnecessary travel, and that's what the APD is intended to do.
Sadly your grandchildren won't have a world to live in if we don't give up some of the luxuries our "most comfortable of all generations" have taken for granted. Travel, given it's high impact & often trivial nature is probably top of the list.
Sadly your grandchildren won't have a world to live in if we don't give up some of the luxuries our "most comfortable of all generations" have taken for granted. Travel, given it's high impact & often trivial nature is probably top of the list.
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
I think it's still a good stop gap to keep the industry from suffering in the meantime, then it'll either recover international travel or assist the managed decline.
Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
Trains need to be a hell of a lot cheaper too but there is also a really big capacity and quality of service issue here that needs dealing with. HS2 will barely scrape the service, we're still running on near 200 year old lines.
Bozo the popularist's popularist
There is no bandwagon he won't jump on
The UK 's hole in the roof is £2400bn and he wants to hand out freebies to his mates
There is no bandwagon he won't jump on
The UK 's hole in the roof is £2400bn and he wants to hand out freebies to his mates
We should not be encouraging flying. Quite the reverse in fact. We need to make flying VERY expensive to reduce pollution reduce climate change.
The country is drowning in public debt and Bozo the Clown wants to cut taxes...just after Sunak said he was going to raise taxes.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
Whacko government from a bunch of complete idiots.
No, it will encourage routes to open up and create revenue where there was none previously.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
Right now it's cheaper to get a flight from the UK to Spain/Tenerife/Italy/Greece than it is to travel WITHIN the UK.
Other countries subsidise internal travel and this doesn't even go as far as that, but it's a good start. We should be able to get around the UK as freely as possible.
We need a rail system as efficient as Japan's, and prices that allow you to freely get around the country without it costing you 1 to 3 day's wages to do so.
When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.
We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.
We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
Wasn't part of HS2 (and faster rail networks generally) to reduce the need for domestic air traffic. Not only is this inconsistent, it shows the disregard for the environment this government has.
Shame on you Boris Johnson. May our, and your, children forgive us.
Shame on you Boris Johnson. May our, and your, children forgive us.
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
I support the proposals to cut emissions but we still need a transport system to move people & goods. I have never seen the point of APD as it does not restrict flying nor is the money raised go directly to support transport infrastructure. These loony (can I say that BBC) enviro campaigners want to return us to staying local & become props in a modern day version of the Haywain.
Is "pledge to review" just a lengthy and expensive way of saying no.
It is ridiculous that the devolved administrations have the final say on infrastructure that is of national importance. Drakeford has ditched the M4 Relief Scheme at Newport in the belief that alternative means of transport will solve the crippling congestion problem at the Newport Tunnels. It only takes prolonged closure of the M4 for structural safety reasons for S. wales to be crippled.
The cost to our environment and air quality is not paid by passengers or air travel co's - in fact its ignored. I accept we cannot yet, legally lie in front of aircraft to prevent them flying but at least each passenger should be handed an "Eco Vandal" cards says "Card bearer is certified Eco Vandal and deserves to have plastic micro particles pumped through their front door letter box"
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
"and faster rail networks generally".
Britain is a small country. Trains are perfect for travel, if we invested in the infrastructure. It's quicker too for most longer journeys. The point stands and this is a clear divergence in policy.
Britain is a small country. Trains are perfect for travel, if we invested in the infrastructure. It's quicker too for most longer journeys. The point stands and this is a clear divergence in policy.
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
It doesn't seem consistent with tackling climate change. At a time when I can board a train at Euston and be in Manchester in two hours, Glasgow in little over four hours by electric power it seems silly to encourage more air travel. For the same journey by air, you have to travel out to Heathrow, get there an hour or so before your flight and then travel into the city at the other end. Madness.
We are a compact country . There should be very little need to fly within it. Better rail without paying a £1bn a mile is the answer
How do I get a train from Newcastle (UK) to Antrim (UK)? If I could, I would!
I have done London to Edinburgh by car, train and jet. All cost roughly the same, about £200 return (it was back when I had a petrol car) but there are pros & cons. Train: I can switch off, work, enjoy the scenery, sleep. Car: I can set off when I like, visit Newcastle on the way, no need for taxis or buses on arrival. Plane: I'm there in a couple of hours (inc check in).
Its about choice.
Its about choice.
Connections across the UK (and this includes broadband) are key.
Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.
Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.
Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.
Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
Decentralisation away from London needs to happen.
Manchester is already a world e-commerce centre.
Cambridge & Oxford world education centres.
Belfast, Cardiff, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Southampton all need to carve their own world class niches.
Crazy suggestion that contradicts the requirement in law to be zero carbon by 2050
Absolutely, enough is enough we need governments to start listening to Greta and putting the environment as the number one issue, or we’re going to end up wiping out ourselves and all other significant species, if not all life.
And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
True, but we need a coal mine
Steel is 2% carbon
You don't have to use carbon to reduce the ore, but you can't make an iron-carbon alloy without carbon
Steel is 2% carbon
You don't have to use carbon to reduce the ore, but you can't make an iron-carbon alloy without carbon
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
He didn't mention riding a bike. You imagined that, and came to your own conclusions. Bless.
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
Can i have a tax rebate on return journeys i make in my car please?
Air duty needs to increase and increase several times over.
But who cares about carbons, we must protect the airlines for going bust....
Air duty needs to increase and increase several times over.
But who cares about carbons, we must protect the airlines for going bust....
Johnson doesn't seem to realise that the covid epidemic is the worst economic crisis since the Second World War. Sensible governments would raise taxes but since 2010 all they have done is cut expenditure, and let UK debt increase. Since 2010 corporation tax is 11% down and the top rate of tax is 5% down.
I respect your right to care. But can you respect my right not to? I like my 4x4, my travels abroad. I look forward to going on HS2. That is my right. Deal with it.
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
Do you have the right to negatively affect other people's lives?
When your neighbour puts their music on loud at 3am do you just think "I respect their right", or does your right to peace and quiet suddenly take priority?
The point is, the rights you're wanting to maintain have external costs. Someone somewhere will die as a result of the air quality or climate change implication of your rights.
When your neighbour puts their music on loud at 3am do you just think "I respect their right", or does your right to peace and quiet suddenly take priority?
The point is, the rights you're wanting to maintain have external costs. Someone somewhere will die as a result of the air quality or climate change implication of your rights.
You could argue that until recently you had the right to smack children. Or smoke in public buildings. Or build a house out of asbestos. Or drive without a seat belt.
But we then get the benefit of more data and our opinions change in line with the facts that are available. And the things that we once thought of as rights then appear to be the preserve of the willfully ignorant.
But we then get the benefit of more data and our opinions change in line with the facts that are available. And the things that we once thought of as rights then appear to be the preserve of the willfully ignorant.
I take it the BBC, particularly Mr Harrabin, will not be sending journalists to the next climate conference by air then.
Or Flying Bruno Toniloi between LA and London every week? I fly to Los Angeles every week, staying there from Sunday to Wednesday while I’m filming the television series Dancing with the Stars. Then I’m back here in London the rest of the week to do Strictly Come Dancing. The eight-hour time difference is brutal, but you learn to manage it. I grin and bear it to do the two shows that I love.
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
The UK is bigger than Birmingham and London. Edinburgh, Derry, Belfast, Liverpool etc
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
The fact that Ireland slashed international rates to become a satellite hub proves that individual action by countries costs consumers but does not affect the growth in air traffic. Families are dispersed and need quick, convenient and affordable connections to stay in touch. Give an alternative solution
Here is another idea. You ride your bike and leave the rest of us alone. I like my 4X$. I like to tavel at high speed. I like my holidays. If u dont fine but stop pestering us
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
We need a rail system as efficient as Japan's, and prices that allow you to freely get around the country without it costing you 1 to 3 day's wages to do so.
When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.
We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
When you can fly to Greece and back for less than it costs to get between London and Manchester, you know there's a problem.
We may have modernised the trains and signalling, but we're still essentially using near 200 year old rail routes.
We need to make air travel more expensive, not cheaper.
I thought Attenborough said the planet was on its deathbed.
I thought Attenborough said the planet was on its deathbed.
I respect your right to care. But can you respect my right not to? I like my 4x4, my travels abroad. I look forward to going on HS2. That is my right. Deal with it.
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Or Flying Bruno Toniloi between LA and London every week? I fly to Los Angeles every week, staying there from Sunday to Wednesday while I’m filming the television series Dancing with the Stars. Then I’m back here in London the rest of the week to do Strictly Come Dancing. The eight-hour time difference is brutal, but you learn to manage it. I grin and bear it to do the two shows that I love.
Does this mean we can all fly to Newquay at Easter? Yay!
Absolutely, enough is enough we need governments to start listening to Greta and putting the environment as the number one issue, or we’re going to end up wiping out ourselves and all other significant species, if not all life.
And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
And a bridge across the Irish Sea is potentially devastating to protected marine species including the magnificent Basking Shark.
I dispair at the priorities of our government. Yes better transport infrastructure is great but not at the expense of turning Earths atmosphere to that of Venus.
We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.
It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.
It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
I think you've said it better than I did.
But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
The bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland sounds like one of Boris's grand projects (remember Boris Island airport?) that makes him look like a visionary leader, when all it creates is a few proposal documents and some consultancy fees, before being quietly dropped in 5 years' time.
The duplicitous Gov stikes again............. We are going to be environmentally friendly!!!1 Just ignore the coal mine & encouraging more domestic flights.........
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
Here is an idea, why not scrap HS2 & instead spend the money on improving existing rail links across the entire country so domestic flights are not required?
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
I agree entirely until the last sentence.
The Green Party unfortunately appears to be the party for disaffected labour people. It's now more radical left than the Labour party. So it can't represent many of the people who want fast action on green issues, but are more conservative on other issues.
The Green Party unfortunately appears to be the party for disaffected labour people. It's now more radical left than the Labour party. So it can't represent many of the people who want fast action on green issues, but are more conservative on other issues.
Except Boris is not a climate change denier
Because the Green Party rarely focuses on green issues. They sit well to the left of Labour. Id' vote for them if they focused on green issues only.
In Scotland, perhaps it is because the Green Party is just an offshoot of the SNP and props up their incompetence?
Blaming air travel for all environmental issues is an easy hit but is just part of the issue. It should not beyond human ability to have climate neutral air travel and it is an industry that should be supported to evolve.
Blaming air travel for all environmental issues is an easy hit but is just part of the issue. It should not beyond human ability to have climate neutral air travel and it is an industry that should be supported to evolve.
More folk would vote Green if we had a proportional system of representation.
I think people don't vote for the Green Party as they have socialist left/wing agenda that is bigger than their green agenda.
It is very unfortunate.
They should be in the middle between left and right.
It is very unfortunate.
They should be in the middle between left and right.
Because they'd bankrupt the country in ten minutes and have everyone living in the middle ages ... is that reason enough ?
We are a compact country . There should be very little need to fly within it. Better rail without paying a £1bn a mile is the answer
yep the people are responding because they live near a mainline that goes to a relative place they want to get to in a relatively short time, not remote communities or across the Irish sea!
I dispair at the priorities of our government. Yes better transport infrastructure is great but not at the expense of turning Earths atmosphere to that of Venus.
We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.
It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
We need urgent action now from everyone, including politicians.
It shouldn’t have to come down to 13 yr old girls to force action on climate change, it should be our political leaders, and if they don’t, we must dispose of them.
Trains are much greener than planes. Trouble is, they should never have been privatised. Train fairs are plainly an insult. It is cheaper to fly from Exeter to London than to use trains.
I am all for the private sector.... when it makes sense.......
I am all for the private sector.... when it makes sense.......
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The Green Party have realised over the years what the driving forces are behind our determination to damage the planet so it is hardly surprising that they are moving away from libertarian capitalism.
I think you've said it better than I did.
But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
But you can see from the volume of downvotes how little people want to change their comfortable lives, the size of the challenge, and that the majority still just don't get it.
with rights comes responsibility.... You can have your 4x4 but dont be surprised when you are taxed accordingly to pay for the damage its causing.....
I doubt it.
The manufacture of a 4x4 alone immediately puts it at a huge disadvantage to a modest sized car, and unless it's electric or hydrogen fueled, with the electricity or hydrogen coming from 100% renewable, then someone is just making that up or glossing over the complexity of carbon.
The manufacture of a 4x4 alone immediately puts it at a huge disadvantage to a modest sized car, and unless it's electric or hydrogen fueled, with the electricity or hydrogen coming from 100% renewable, then someone is just making that up or glossing over the complexity of carbon.
I also like my holidays & with WfH don't need to travel much. Domestic air travel in a country as small as the UK is insane!
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
Once you factor in having to get to & arrive early at the airport the train works out about the same amount of time. & that's before they improve the train lines (which they could do if they were not spending obscene amounts of money on the White elephant that is HS2).
Traveled to and around Scotland a lot actually. From London and the midlands
"..greenest form of travel is the travel that doesn't take place,.."
The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.
And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
The UK is not self sufficient in food or energy or medicine. This is because the UK population should be about 1/3 of the size. Something that gets ignored.
And how do **you** decide what is a necessary journey?
I'm not sure how APD affects our need to import. It's there to discourage unnecessary "passenger" flights. Set at correct level it will do it's job, thus avoiding the need for me, or anyone else to make those decisions. That's why it was brought in, that's why it needs to be ramped up, not down.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
Your answer is classic deflection, we need medicines, therefore let people fly to play golf for a day.
The bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland sounds like one of Boris's grand projects (remember Boris Island airport?) that makes him look like a visionary leader, when all it creates is a few proposal documents and some consultancy fees, before being quietly dropped in 5 years' time.
As much as I blame politicians who continue to ignore the extreme peril we are in over climate change, I also despair at a large chunk of the U.K. voting public who clearly seem to agree with Boris’s climate change denying perspective.
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
The people putting these politicians in power seem to have scant regard for our children’s futures.
We have a Green Party - why on earth is noone voting for them?
In words? Or in actions?
There's always money for projects which harm the environment.
That's why there's never enough money for a decent pay rise for NHS workers who have risked their lives for all of us this last year.