BP staff set to work from home two days a week
08/03/2021 | news | business | 1,063
The oil giant told staff last month that the new model will start for office-based staff this summer.
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08/03/2021 15:02:56 8 8
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Only 2? I'm sure the staff will be disappointed
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08/03/2021 15:06:04 11 4
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That is the average - the company has announced that some staff can work 5 days a week (if they choose to) or then can come in more infrequently - could be once a week if that.
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08/03/2021 15:15:59 4 1
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I recommend reading past the headline, then commenting.
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08/03/2021 15:04:06 97 16
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one the genie is out of the bottle there is no going back with working from home

the future for some is very bright
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08/03/2021 16:46:50 20 32
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Yes for power companies, who will be rubbing their hands with glee at the fuel-inefficient working methods which are about to become common. Which sector is Shell in again?

They'll save money from closing offices, AND make money from the increase in domestic power consumption. Win-win for Shell then.
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08/03/2021 15:04:19 442 28
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I'm looking forward to hybrid working. Not having to commute 5 days a week will be very nice, but equally, not being stuck at home all day every day (after a year of it), and seeing work colleagues, will be a very nice change!
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08/03/2021 15:07:01 99 21
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Well said!
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08/03/2021 15:11:02 15 6
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Snap!
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08/03/2021 15:17:19 12 3
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Exactly how I plan to do it, and I have even bought a hybrid car.

All I have to do now is to persuade the boss to decorate my office room and stop turning it into a storage area, which has happened since I started WFH last March.
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08/03/2021 15:36:20 16 0
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"One day I shall have retired, and all this will seem like a bad dream."
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08/03/2021 15:37:25 32 6
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Several of those thumbs down must have come from the board of Goldman Sachs
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08/03/2021 15:38:49 21 1
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It amazes me that more firms are not starting to release statements on their plans. I am sure those firms that release their policies quickly and show that they are flexible places to work who care about their staff will attract the best people and the most diverse range of talent
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08/03/2021 15:39:13 22 6
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Same here

Work from home wherever we can is here to stay . It will never go away

Covid split the world into pre covid Era and post covid Era just like WW2
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08/03/2021 15:42:00 32 6
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Going to office sometimes also will develop the sense of "Our company, Our team" . 100% working from home is detaching that sense of "Ours"..

I am all for hybrid mode of working wherever possible
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08/03/2021 15:58:04 25 3
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Unfortunlately for anyone using the rail network 3 days in the office means a season ticket is required. Wonder if the flexible tickets will actually materialise..
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08/03/2021 15:58:22 21 4
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As a critical worker who has been in work from the start of the first lockdown and having read testaments from people home working, I can say I have massively appreciated seeing colleagues. Though it's been at a distance and in PPE, there is still that valuable interaction.
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08/03/2021 16:13:02 14 17
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How lovely for you. Meanwhile the shop workers, front of house staff, restaurant and bar staff, NHS workers etc have no choice but to commute in all weathers. And don't forget to claim your £60 tax relief for sitting at home while they pay for petrol, parking, bus fares...
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08/03/2021 16:17:36 3 3
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you are much easier to fire when you do not go into work so its an obvious choice for big companies
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08/03/2021 16:27:46 3 1
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Agreed, it has to be a mix going forward, the novelty of working from home all the time wore off quite quickly but there's no way 100% of the week in the office can be justified now, it's simply not necessary. I'd be happy with a 3/2 split either way.
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08/03/2021 16:52:44 4 2
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I agree, not being stuck at home all day every day will be amazing! However, I will get that while continuing 100% home working after lockdown ends, I will just leave the house to see people I want to spend time with instead of to work. And because I am not exhausted from spending all my social energy on colleagues, I will enjoy time with friends and family more. For me, it's win-win!
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08/03/2021 17:00:54 3 0
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Post of the week....and it's only Monday!
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08/03/2021 17:01:50 2 0
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I wonder how it will work out financially for train commuters. A season ticket is not such a great option with this model, potentially making the commuting actually more expensive overall.
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08/03/2021 18:12:20 1 2
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Agreed! The benefits have shown people can be trusted to work from home plus the benefits of team working --- now known as collaboration.
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08/03/2021 18:24:26 1 1
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Some of my work will be improved by being there, but for the rest being at home makes it easier to concentrate & less physically demanding: so I shall be looking to extend from the 1 day a week at home I did pre-pandemic to maybe 2 days at home. Depends on the timetable (uni lecturer).
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08/03/2021 18:56:11 2 0
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Same here. I am actually hoping to move house once I have my long-term work hours confirmed (i.e. post-lockdown) so I can be closer to my family (in a cheaper part of the country, so can upgrade from a tiny flat). I wouldn't mind having an occasional long commute to attend important meetings and what not. I really don't want to full-time office work again.
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08/03/2021 19:01:50 0 0
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I go in Tuesday and Friday and while Monday is the cosy WFH crawl into the week, on Tuesday it feels like a good time to head into office.

For those that struggle at home all the time, it is a real saviour for them.

Even just meeting acquaintances at work like the porter is enough to transform your perspective on covid life for a few days.
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08/03/2021 20:10:47 2 3
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Surely income tax needs to rise on those working from home to compensate for the lake of benefit to the economy from commuting, lunch/coffee, commercial premises, cleaning staff etc.

A 5% WFH surcharge seems sensible.
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08/03/2021 15:05:05 4 15
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So I have to fill my car up then drive to their house to pay?!!!
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08/03/2021 15:21:36 1 0
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Your humour appears to be lost sadly.
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08/03/2021 15:55:36 1 0
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Humour wasn't lost on me.. Just not very funny sorry ????
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08/03/2021 15:05:17 4 9
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people are getting some work life balance back and some desperately needed travel £ + time savings .. no more extortionate Annual Travel Rail passes (season tickets)-
This is only the start CPI Inflation fraud also has to go now. BT and Vodafone Price rise matching formulas CPI + 3.9% = 4.5% next month.. Council Tax 5% (Not in CPI) etc so its time for the people to bring the Govt down a peg or 2
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08/03/2021 15:10:10 6 0
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Could you translate this please and explain how its relevant to the story
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08/03/2021 15:14:45 0 0
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The CPI and RPI fraud has been a key plank of successive Governments - very few question it.
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08/03/2021 15:02:56 8 8
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Only 2? I'm sure the staff will be disappointed
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08/03/2021 15:06:04 11 4
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That is the average - the company has announced that some staff can work 5 days a week (if they choose to) or then can come in more infrequently - could be once a week if that.
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08/03/2021 15:06:18 8 9
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BP staff told to go into office 3 days a week.

....Alternate headline
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08/03/2021 15:07:48 11 2
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That isn't true - they have said it depends on their role and what they are comfortable with - this article doesn't make that clear
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08/03/2021 15:10:20 1 0
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I guess companies still have to have some presence in offices, which I imagine will be invaluable for trainees and new starters & the like.

If literally everyone worked from home, all of the time, properly training new, inexperienced staff and school leavers would be nigh on impossible?
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08/03/2021 15:11:07 0 2
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Flock of starlings stops keen ornithologists car.
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08/03/2021 15:06:23 247 24
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The lost time and money just commuting as well as the environmental impact of travelling is finally in the spotlight. I do think we need to be careful not to go too far the other way and end up with an isolated workforce but the 9-5 in a central office is no more. Thankfully.
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08/03/2021 15:33:26 120 11
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The other issue is training/mentoring. As the teachers are pointing out, face to face teaching is much better than remote learning.
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08/03/2021 15:34:52 17 1
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Hybridity and flexibility is key - that should be the main conversation here. With available technology, there is plenty of scope for agile working environments and there are lots of benefits that come with that e.g. diversification, inclusivity, flexibility for family needs etc and therefore ultimately a wider range of talent and opportunity.
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08/03/2021 15:36:53 39 0
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Pros and cons of both. Although I have worked from home for years & it works for me, I know people who currently hate being forced to.
A big issue is the UK housing stock wasn't really built with this in mind. So many people do not have a spare room/space to dedicate to using as a full time office. To do it long term, you need a dedicated space that at the end of day you can step away from
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08/03/2021 15:58:52 3 2
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For those who commute by train I doubt there will be a cost saving from only travelling three days a week. Paying for three peak returns probably works out around the same as an annual season ticket.
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08/03/2021 16:44:06 3 8
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If you don't like commuting get a job that's closer to your home
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08/03/2021 20:39:58 0 0
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Only the public sector work 9-5, the rest of us really work and put in up to 40hrs a week!
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08/03/2021 15:06:41 156 12
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Good on BP. Flexible working will not lead to the death of cities but it will have a huge impact on reducing city centre affordability issues, improving work-life balance, increasing opportunities for women and stop me wasting time and money on commuting!
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08/03/2021 17:19:23 58 3
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I'd go further - many city centres are already dead at weekends and evenings. We now have an opportunity to repurpose redundant office (and retail) space for housing, bringing city centres back to life and supporting new businesses to serve the new residents.
Unfortunately, the big housebuilders own huge greenfield land banks, and will fight to maintain their value.
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08/03/2021 18:50:49 0 0
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if men and women shared the load equally there would be no need.
08/03/2021 21:18:55 0 0
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Also don’t forget if say 20% of staff WFH then business can reduce office space and save money, as well as improving quality of life for employees
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08/03/2021 15:04:19 442 28
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I'm looking forward to hybrid working. Not having to commute 5 days a week will be very nice, but equally, not being stuck at home all day every day (after a year of it), and seeing work colleagues, will be a very nice change!
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08/03/2021 15:07:01 99 21
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Well said!
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08/03/2021 16:04:13 14 8
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Hope everyone will be handing back the pro rata amount of their London weighting allowance. I am so happy that it is not possible for me to work at home. Social interaction at work is such a big part of life.
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08/03/2021 15:07:17 19 10
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We need real progress. A 30 or 32 hour ,four day week.
Not just saving on office space..
A 40% fall in demand for commercial office space will feed through to land values and house prices over the next five or six years.
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08/03/2021 15:09:58 20 0
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Yes please, work takes up a shocking amount of our lives as it is. I’d like some of my life back, please.
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08/03/2021 15:12:16 3 0
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You make a valid point - add to this the loss of high street shopping centres and large premises and many pension funds will struggle to provide decent returns for all of us as they are (in some cases) heavily invested in these two areas.
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08/03/2021 15:12:49 6 1
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Agreed - if I was a commercial landlord, I'd be worrying right now. Commercial landlords go bust, inner city offices bought by residential landlords/property developers and converted to affordable housing - or at least relatively so.

Covid may have, accidentally, corrected one of the major imbalances in Western cities - the housing shortages.
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08/03/2021 15:07:23 5 3
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My com[any has already switched to two days in the office only, when we get back to what passes for normality.
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08/03/2021 15:07:30 228 50
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So HS2 is even more pointless now as there will be even less people commuting into London (which was one of the key drivers of HS2, to free up space on the existing West Coast main line for more commuters).....
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08/03/2021 15:09:59 107 62
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fewer
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08/03/2021 15:12:28 19 0
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The overprovision of office space in London will become apparent over time - and the perceived need to have an office there will reduce.

Being able to work from home means that one does not require to live within commuting distance of an office either.
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08/03/2021 15:14:55 24 8
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But HS2 has always been about creating jobs for the construction industry rather than anything else. You can employ a huge number of people building a white elephant!
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08/03/2021 15:22:24 9 16
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We are moving away from private vehicles, like it or not electric cars are no panacea , so we will need more HS2 type projects along with local rail and trams to go inter city. What stinks about HS2 are the personal fortunes being made out it, which we would get even if it was a labour project.
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08/03/2021 15:30:30 9 3
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Not that I'm a fan of HS2 but isn't a lot of the benefit around freight transport? I assume the need is still there for that. Saying that, fewer people commuting may free up some capacity for freight anyway.
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08/03/2021 18:30:02 3 1
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HS2 is about making it easier to move up and down the country - this will be more relevant with fewer/less planes running around. I don't think anyone understands how it will contribute to a new way of life in 20 or 50 years' time - but rapid ground transport, a flexible work/life balance and tackling climate change will all be part of the New Republic of England.
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08/03/2021 18:39:29 1 1
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Fast rail travel is paramount to getting rid of cars.
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08/03/2021 18:50:01 2 0
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Hs2 is as much about frieght and tourism than it is about commuting. Who commutes from Yorkshire to London anyway?
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08/03/2021 20:07:40 0 1
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HS2 adds capacity to three lines - WCML, MML and ECML - it's in the business case it's a shame virtually no-one seems to have read it. That capacity can be used by freight as well as passengers. So still not a waste.
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08/03/2021 15:06:18 8 9
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BP staff told to go into office 3 days a week.

....Alternate headline
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08/03/2021 15:07:48 11 2
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That isn't true - they have said it depends on their role and what they are comfortable with - this article doesn't make that clear
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08/03/2021 15:08:34 2 13
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That's our petrol station screwed then, unless you only need petrol Mon-Weds
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08/03/2021 15:10:54 7 0
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"BP has told office-based staff"
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08/03/2021 16:00:09 1 0
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It can be delivered through your letter box by courier.....
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08/03/2021 15:08:35 113 12
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HMRC is doing exactly the same thing; allowing its staff to work from home for a minimum of 2-3 days per week or more, in some areas. It's in their new contracts. The idea that workers are going to come back in their droves is simply not going to happen.
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08/03/2021 15:10:19 35 1
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HMRC offices are 7:10. Seven desks per ten staff.
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08/03/2021 15:09:53 11 10
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That is probably why the service from HMRC is so poor !
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08/03/2021 15:12:10 2 6
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Do they think China will be doing the same thing?!
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08/03/2021 15:34:23 13 5
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Not sure HMRC is much of a role model. It took me most of a morning to get through to them when I needed to chase up something. Even BT can do better than that - unless someone knows different?
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08/03/2021 15:46:46 2 5
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You mean, they're actually starting to be a bit professional...? Wow, that's a change for them. Well done.
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08/03/2021 16:07:57 10 5
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The HMRC have been incredibly poor during the past year. If more companies start operating like them, then there's going to be a lot of companies going bust.
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08/03/2021 18:13:00 0 0
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Oh yes it is
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08/03/2021 15:08:44 26 5
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It's a start - and, I expect, driven by the finance side of the business once management saw that the office based work still got done without needing everyone to be present in an expensive to rent and run set of office buildings....

Not needing to commute so often is better for the wellbeing of the individual, their bank balance and the environment.
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08/03/2021 19:52:00 1 0
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Offset against paying for their own superfast broadband, heating and lighting and furniture costs........
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08/03/2021 15:08:49 37 11
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This mandate that workers should go into the office 3 days a week isn’t much more flexible than going in for 5 days, is it?

WFH should be a conversation topic between employee and manager. Let the individual worker hash it out themselves. There will be those who love WFH and those who don’t, so let’s try to stay away from blanket mandates please.
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08/03/2021 15:12:38 10 1
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bp staff are not being asked to go in 3 days per week. It is estimated that a number of staff will work from home two days a week but that will depend on what the employee is comfortable with. Some staff may choose to be in 5 days a week some staff may only come in once a week.
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08/03/2021 15:13:19 0 2
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But you don't understand, we need blanket mandates because I need to enforce my personal lifestyle preferences on others.
Otherwise it's "selfish"
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08/03/2021 15:14:19 3 0
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Agreed - WFH is only one element to flexible working. A flexible approach should encompass using the office and remote environments to their full potential and achieving a balance with that.
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08/03/2021 15:48:17 1 0
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depends on who chooses which 2 days are WFH
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08/03/2021 15:09:02 5 20
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This is the beginning of a very slippery slope.
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08/03/2021 15:09:05 86 20
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Mediocre lower middle management will be bricking it. The offices will be a sea of brown-nosers only.
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08/03/2021 16:18:29 30 14
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Not everyone can or wants to work from home. But nice to see you have a balanced opinion.
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08/03/2021 16:27:48 6 0
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Sad but true, this will definitely tip the balance in the sycophants favour. I read a comment earlier about wfh arrangements benefiting women, however, i can help but think that keeping them out the office will also ultimately limit their opportunities also.

Theres a lot to be said for face to face working and a lot can be read from the nuances of body language and face to face meeting
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rl
08/03/2021 15:09:16 7 4
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Sounds a good split / mix to me.
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08/03/2021 15:09:42 73 13
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If anything, the Pandemic has shown that working from home is a viable alternative to the office, I expect more companies to follow in the footsteps of BP, it makes sense, a lot of sense.
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08/03/2021 15:09:46 11 6
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Seems sensible - more WFH should be encouraged as long as people can actually do their work, with the right IT support and WiFi strength etc.
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08/03/2021 15:23:25 3 1
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wifi is a funtion of your geographic location, i.e. not the same service everywhere. Having said that there needs to be a change in how people use IT, Many web based applications are often badly designed and generate copious amounts of overhead to the real data needed.
Performance measures need to change to monitoring outcomes not how long one sits in front of a screen
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08/03/2021 15:07:17 19 10
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We need real progress. A 30 or 32 hour ,four day week.
Not just saving on office space..
A 40% fall in demand for commercial office space will feed through to land values and house prices over the next five or six years.
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08/03/2021 15:09:58 20 0
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Yes please, work takes up a shocking amount of our lives as it is. I’d like some of my life back, please.
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08/03/2021 15:07:30 228 50
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So HS2 is even more pointless now as there will be even less people commuting into London (which was one of the key drivers of HS2, to free up space on the existing West Coast main line for more commuters).....
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08/03/2021 15:09:59 107 62
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fewer
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08/03/2021 15:18:22 29 24
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So the sum total of your useful contribution is a grammar police job....

What did you do for entertainment before the interweb?
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08/03/2021 15:31:47 11 4
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at least you agree HS2 is still pointles
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SAM
08/03/2021 16:03:21 5 4
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semantics!
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08/03/2021 16:12:07 3 2
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That train has already departed.
We all know what was meant, time to move on.
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08/03/2021 16:42:43 3 0
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It's a pity your pedantry didn't also extend to pointing out the long ellipsis at the end of the statement. I've had to deduct points I'm afraid.
Removed
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08/03/2021 17:47:08 2 2
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STOP !!! You are not at school, this is not a lesson, everyone is not being marked.
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08/03/2021 18:11:26 0 0
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Pedunt....sorry pedant
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08/03/2021 15:05:17 4 9
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people are getting some work life balance back and some desperately needed travel £ + time savings .. no more extortionate Annual Travel Rail passes (season tickets)-
This is only the start CPI Inflation fraud also has to go now. BT and Vodafone Price rise matching formulas CPI + 3.9% = 4.5% next month.. Council Tax 5% (Not in CPI) etc so its time for the people to bring the Govt down a peg or 2
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08/03/2021 15:10:10 6 0
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Could you translate this please and explain how its relevant to the story
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08/03/2021 15:45:32 0 1
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people are getting some cost savings and time bsack from WORKING FROM HOME ..can you read ?
The second aspect thay the vast majority of people do not realise is that their bills are still going up 5% next month so the job is not complete on UK Work Life balance. The UK CPI Inflation is called low balling. The attack on standards of living has to be reversed and home working is one aspect of this.
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08/03/2021 15:08:35 113 12
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HMRC is doing exactly the same thing; allowing its staff to work from home for a minimum of 2-3 days per week or more, in some areas. It's in their new contracts. The idea that workers are going to come back in their droves is simply not going to happen.
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08/03/2021 15:10:19 35 1
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HMRC offices are 7:10. Seven desks per ten staff.
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08/03/2021 15:06:18 8 9
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BP staff told to go into office 3 days a week.

....Alternate headline
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08/03/2021 15:10:20 1 0
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I guess companies still have to have some presence in offices, which I imagine will be invaluable for trainees and new starters & the like.

If literally everyone worked from home, all of the time, properly training new, inexperienced staff and school leavers would be nigh on impossible?
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08/03/2021 15:15:59 1 0
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That is very true - it is fine for established members of staff but for new joiners (especially staff like new Grads) getting face to face time with colleagues is very important so allowances need to be made for that. In a total wfh environment that would be tricky
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08/03/2021 15:29:37 1 0
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Yes it a good idea and surely this will be on a rota system, except for new starters and trainees who will be in 5 days a week so they will get to meet other members of staff and watch and learn how people do things differently to achieve the same result, so they can learn and choose from others which suits them best.
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08/03/2021 15:08:34 2 13
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That's our petrol station screwed then, unless you only need petrol Mon-Weds
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08/03/2021 15:10:54 7 0
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"BP has told office-based staff"
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08/03/2021 15:16:57 0 1
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Call me cynical, but I think that might be a joke you've missed...
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meh
08/03/2021 15:10:57 53 12
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Unfortunately for me the sector i work in has a similar mindset to what Goldman Sachs and Barclays in Finance want to do.

That is going back to the office 5 days a week when this blows over.

Cant help but think its time for me to move into a different sector.

Wont be too hard working in IT but taking a pay cut wont be fun if i do value wfh!
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08/03/2021 15:13:27 31 1
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Maybe try bp?
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x1
08/03/2021 15:26:40 7 1
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Market economics will move the dial in favour of the more efficient way of working. When you have companies bidding for work and one can undercut the other due to smaller overheads them most efficient will grow, whilst others wither.

Same rules as shopping, first it was local, then town centre, then out of town, now warehouse delivery.

Profitability will be the bottom line as always.
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08/03/2021 15:54:17 9 1
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Companies who re-adopt / force this return to industrial revolution era working practices on 21st century 'knowledge economy' workers will find themselves struggling to recruit and retain the talent they need to adapt and grow in our changing world. They will bring about their own demise and become obsolete.
I for one will never again work for an organisation that forces a 5 day a week commute.
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08/03/2021 15:57:19 3 0
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One wonders what their property portfolios are like?
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08/03/2021 17:09:23 0 2
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GS isn't a typical company. They pay enough to tell people how to work and still have hoardes of people they want queueing at the door for a shot.

Most companies are not GS. They'll be overtaken by competitors who are more agile and responsive. Even Barclays is no GS (low end of finance pay) and I think they'll have to back down from 5-days-a-week eventually.
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08/03/2021 18:14:13 0 0
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Maybe try working
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08/03/2021 18:28:06 0 0
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I work for a environmental non-profit with the same view as Goldman Sachs.
It's quite strange.
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08/03/2021 19:02:49 0 0
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Maybe - but those offering better conditions may attract those people away from the dinosaur companies forcing the dinosaurs to evolve.
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08/03/2021 15:04:19 442 28
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I'm looking forward to hybrid working. Not having to commute 5 days a week will be very nice, but equally, not being stuck at home all day every day (after a year of it), and seeing work colleagues, will be a very nice change!
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08/03/2021 15:11:02 15 6
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Snap!
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08/03/2021 15:06:18 8 9
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BP staff told to go into office 3 days a week.

....Alternate headline
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08/03/2021 15:11:07 0 2
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Flock of starlings stops keen ornithologists car.
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Ian
08/03/2021 15:11:49 345 48
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? We've proved we can be productive at home
? We cut down on pollution and burning of fossil fuels
? We cut down on traffic congestion and public transport over-crowding
? We get a better work-life balance with improved mental health

Only the crustiest of dinosaurs would object to home working post Covid ?????

OK, it's not possible for everyone all the time.

But, for some of the time, it is.
Unfortunately Ian! Boris and his team will be passing brown envelopes to company directors to get people into the office! I work for one of top companies in the Uk. Already had Company director preferring us workers in the office. When the time comes but he will work from home in Sunny Ascot! I would love to work from home permanently! ?? Removed
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08/03/2021 15:19:08 14 58
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We have

> Proved we are not competitive with much of the world.
> Proved we have accumulated a mountainous pile of debt.
> Proved we have one of the highest death rates from Covid, per 100,000 of the population, anywhere in the world.
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08/03/2021 15:23:00 24 6
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We have yet to understand how to not overuse emojis ??
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08/03/2021 15:30:33 16 18
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Agree with most of what you say, however the down side of WFH will be increased lighting and heating costs at home so not a 100% environmental saving.
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08/03/2021 16:00:43 19 14
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Sorry Ian but there's no evidence we can or have been [more] productive working from home. Although I might be a dinosaur compared with you I daresay there are people who do prefer working in the office rather than being isolated at home. Office conversations help people develop.
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08/03/2021 16:06:38 13 5
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Working from home is not an option for those producing tangible products or involved in their supply.
We are now heating thousands of individual workspaces rather than shared spaces.
The infrastructure is still needed regardless.
Work life balance includes the home being a haven away from the pressures of work.

It is not a simple debate. There is much nuance that has yet to be examined.
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08/03/2021 17:02:21 2 1
bbc
Agree Ian but my experience running a business three months parts for a generator , government bodies asleep Network Rail , Land Registry , legal professionals asleep if folks are working at home then they need to pull their fingers out in future
541
08/03/2021 17:16:42 1 3
bbc
Heating one big office in winter is much more environemtally friendly than all staff heating their individual homes. Carbon impact is quite complex, depends on how far each employee lives from work, their commuting method and how they heat their home. Someone did try and work out the tipping point (ie how many miles away from the offcie you need to live for wfh to have a reduced footprint).
600
08/03/2021 17:40:44 1 1
bbc
Generalising much?
636
08/03/2021 17:50:57 1 1
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My mental health suffers when at home, even there 1 day a week. I agree people should have the autonomy, but sadly this is not a choice, this is just large companies putting the burden of work space on the employee. Giving employees the choice to work from home is one thing, forcing them to is another.
656
08/03/2021 17:54:56 1 0
bbc
I work for a company based in the north. They are the crustiest of dinosaurs and all of the local office based staff are being forced to return asap.
I agree, it's a great idea, but there are still some luddites out there.
681
08/03/2021 18:01:59 1 2
bbc
Call me a dinosaur all you like but my dining room table is exactly that, a dining room table not a desk, so no, I will not be working at home again anytime soon.
688
08/03/2021 18:00:00 0 2
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This is not about our welfare, this is part of the overlord's plan and you should not be so quick to accept it.
713
08/03/2021 18:09:52 2 2
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There speaks a man without children and a large house
726
08/03/2021 18:19:01 1 1
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Depends what kind of business. My staff are no where near as productive at home and communication is much worse. They will no doubt be wanting to work from home 2 days a week, but they need to be in the office and will be.
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08/03/2021 15:12:12 14 4
bbc
The big winner is the environment. Less commuting, less demand for cars, less demand for city centre shops so less deliveries, so back to better for the environment. We may even see the rise in asthma start to level out and less colds and flu because people are mixing less. We may even have a winter where there is no pressure on the NHS.
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08/03/2021 15:14:32 9 2
bbc
More heating of homes is not good.
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08/03/2021 16:38:23 4 1
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Its also good for your local economy - admittedly, I'm spending less money (another benefit for me) but what I do spend is in my local area.
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08/03/2021 15:07:17 19 10
bbc
We need real progress. A 30 or 32 hour ,four day week.
Not just saving on office space..
A 40% fall in demand for commercial office space will feed through to land values and house prices over the next five or six years.
35
08/03/2021 15:12:16 3 0
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You make a valid point - add to this the loss of high street shopping centres and large premises and many pension funds will struggle to provide decent returns for all of us as they are (in some cases) heavily invested in these two areas.
217
08/03/2021 15:46:08 1 0
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I was going to say the same. Pension funds are going to take a hit somewhere.
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08/03/2021 15:12:27 13 4
bbc
It's the way the world is going , what gets me is wi-fi/ broadband as been around for a while now, so why does it take a global pandemic to realise.. Actually I can work from home.. ??
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08/03/2021 15:07:30 228 50
bbc
So HS2 is even more pointless now as there will be even less people commuting into London (which was one of the key drivers of HS2, to free up space on the existing West Coast main line for more commuters).....
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08/03/2021 15:12:28 19 0
bbc
The overprovision of office space in London will become apparent over time - and the perceived need to have an office there will reduce.

Being able to work from home means that one does not require to live within commuting distance of an office either.
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08/03/2021 15:08:49 37 11
bbc
This mandate that workers should go into the office 3 days a week isn’t much more flexible than going in for 5 days, is it?

WFH should be a conversation topic between employee and manager. Let the individual worker hash it out themselves. There will be those who love WFH and those who don’t, so let’s try to stay away from blanket mandates please.
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08/03/2021 15:12:38 10 1
bbc
bp staff are not being asked to go in 3 days per week. It is estimated that a number of staff will work from home two days a week but that will depend on what the employee is comfortable with. Some staff may choose to be in 5 days a week some staff may only come in once a week.
11
08/03/2021 15:07:17 19 10
bbc
We need real progress. A 30 or 32 hour ,four day week.
Not just saving on office space..
A 40% fall in demand for commercial office space will feed through to land values and house prices over the next five or six years.
39
08/03/2021 15:12:49 6 1
bbc
Agreed - if I was a commercial landlord, I'd be worrying right now. Commercial landlords go bust, inner city offices bought by residential landlords/property developers and converted to affordable housing - or at least relatively so.

Covid may have, accidentally, corrected one of the major imbalances in Western cities - the housing shortages.
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08/03/2021 15:08:49 37 11
bbc
This mandate that workers should go into the office 3 days a week isn’t much more flexible than going in for 5 days, is it?

WFH should be a conversation topic between employee and manager. Let the individual worker hash it out themselves. There will be those who love WFH and those who don’t, so let’s try to stay away from blanket mandates please.
40
08/03/2021 15:13:19 0 2
bbc
But you don't understand, we need blanket mandates because I need to enforce my personal lifestyle preferences on others.
Otherwise it's "selfish"
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meh
08/03/2021 15:10:57 53 12
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Unfortunately for me the sector i work in has a similar mindset to what Goldman Sachs and Barclays in Finance want to do.

That is going back to the office 5 days a week when this blows over.

Cant help but think its time for me to move into a different sector.

Wont be too hard working in IT but taking a pay cut wont be fun if i do value wfh!
41
08/03/2021 15:13:27 31 1
bbc
Maybe try bp?
151
08/03/2021 15:34:40 6 2
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have you tried to fit an oil rig in the back garden? had to lose the hot tub, tennis court and the stables - but managed it.
42
08/03/2021 15:05:09 28 15
bbc
The more people can work from home the better. Lower business costs, better for the environment, no time wasted commuting - what's not to like?
397
08/03/2021 16:34:25 23 9
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Noisy neighbours doing diy when you’re trying to work, no separation between home and work life, no physical interaction with others, less spending on cars, transport, clothes, lunches out etc. which could lead to many more ending up out of work (to name but a few). Be careful what you wish for as the old saying goes ??
43
08/03/2021 15:05:12 3 4
bbc
Hardly revolutionary. Due to over crowding in offices BP encouraged remote working in the naughties when cheap home internet became widely available.
44
08/03/2021 15:13:56 5 3
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working from home is something I used to do before I retired some seven years ago. The company organisation was such that going into my designated workplace was largely pointless as there were no appropriate people to collaborate with face to face there. I used to spend a lot of time working on client sites where collaboration was centered around a new project team.
230
08/03/2021 15:49:29 2 3
bbc
???? So you wasn't really office staff then, you just want to tell people how important you thought you was ?????? go back to sleep.
45
08/03/2021 15:14:03 5 7
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People who reject working from (bosses in banks) don't know what they are talking about. Working from home part of the time is the new 'normal'. i've worked in many offices over years and many of them are horrible, toxic places. it is to be welcomed and covid is accelerating Digitalisation whether they like it or don't. i welcome it.
386
08/03/2021 16:30:57 0 0
bbc
Good for you but you for only speak for yourself. This will not work for everyone.
18
08/03/2021 15:08:49 37 11
bbc
This mandate that workers should go into the office 3 days a week isn’t much more flexible than going in for 5 days, is it?

WFH should be a conversation topic between employee and manager. Let the individual worker hash it out themselves. There will be those who love WFH and those who don’t, so let’s try to stay away from blanket mandates please.
46
08/03/2021 15:14:19 3 0
bbc
Agreed - WFH is only one element to flexible working. A flexible approach should encompass using the office and remote environments to their full potential and achieving a balance with that.
34
08/03/2021 15:12:12 14 4
bbc
The big winner is the environment. Less commuting, less demand for cars, less demand for city centre shops so less deliveries, so back to better for the environment. We may even see the rise in asthma start to level out and less colds and flu because people are mixing less. We may even have a winter where there is no pressure on the NHS.
47
08/03/2021 15:14:32 9 2
bbc
More heating of homes is not good.
100
08/03/2021 15:26:40 4 4
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More than offset by less cars on the road and less office space....
346
08/03/2021 16:20:57 5 2
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Put a jumper or cardigan on!
806
08/03/2021 18:51:33 1 0
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Compared to grossly inefficient heating and cooling of large office buildings?
48
08/03/2021 15:14:37 4 14
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I have no intention of returning to our office as they have a policy that you have to wear a mask sat at your desk for 8 hours. I've never worn a mask yet so no way will I be doing that. I'll continue to reap the benefits of WFH.
93
08/03/2021 15:25:42 5 0
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People like you are one of the reasons the rest of us are still stuck at home.
49
08/03/2021 15:14:43 9 5
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For so many people there would be a lot of benefits from a split office/home working life - Reduction in commuting costs & traffic/pollution, more time with the family, a few more moments in bed, being able to cook fresh lunches at home, better splitting parental responsibilities (like getting kids to school).

I hope this trend takes - could help improve a lot of issue (although not solve much)
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08/03/2021 15:07:30 228 50
bbc
So HS2 is even more pointless now as there will be even less people commuting into London (which was one of the key drivers of HS2, to free up space on the existing West Coast main line for more commuters).....
50
08/03/2021 15:14:55 24 8
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But HS2 has always been about creating jobs for the construction industry rather than anything else. You can employ a huge number of people building a white elephant!
264
08/03/2021 15:58:08 10 2
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Agreed but you could equally employ them building something we need. Hospitals for instance.
51
08/03/2021 15:15:20 31 3
bbc
Hybrid working should become the norm, if the company can support the employee. There is no downside, less pollution, less commuting for no reason, the way that people have taken to Zoom meetings has broken the model.
97
08/03/2021 15:26:22 7 2
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and the employee can support the employer and remain productive. See so many people WFH on fridays and being invisible. this is not all one way.
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SAM
08/03/2021 16:07:26 0 1
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True, just look at the Queen.
52
08/03/2021 15:15:24 144 12
bbc
I've managed to WFH for the last year so I have no idea why I would need to travel for 1 hour to sit in a noisy office to take part in a zoom meeting with people from other parts of the world?!
262
08/03/2021 15:57:59 65 7
bbc
Ditto - Already been told now don't bother with using the office if just on review calls all day with other regions, use the office for proper face to face / collaboration working and do WFH flexibly to best suit the company and employee..It will be the old guard with huge building liabilities that will be the only ones calling for everyone back in...
489
08/03/2021 17:05:01 2 11
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Not everyone is as solitary and antisocial as you , some of us like getting out the house and enjoy being with colleagues for a chat. Plus knowledge sharing is a lot easier face to face.
601
08/03/2021 17:41:35 0 1
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Bet your boss does.
858
08/03/2021 19:07:36 1 0
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It's the commute more than anything for me. I wouldn't mind office working so much if I could afford to live close to the office, but I can't, so like most people I live in the commuter belt of a city and it takes forever to travel in and out. Not a good use of time (or money).
53
08/03/2021 15:15:24 9 9
bbc
Wow - this is news

I wondering how many office workers will get a "back to the office right now" call

I suspect it will be very limited

No more overtime for the railway drivers - oh well - I think they should be grateful to have jobs - it could have all be done by AI for at least 20 years

247
08/03/2021 15:53:42 0 0
bbc
Well you read the article and commented on it my friend.
54
08/03/2021 15:15:47 10 5
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we will see less winter viruses and flu as people are mixing less. Offices can suffer from 'sick building syndrome'. horrible antiquated air-conditioning systems, recycling air, some working in fluorescent tube lit basements (horrid on the eyes) and not healthy at all. we know of an office thayt was a call centre and had to be fumigated due to nits or bed bugs or something in the carpet! yuk.
55
08/03/2021 15:15:56 6 4
bbc
More housing from office space, outstanding. The working week should be staggered across the workforce so that a smaller human footprint is achieved, thereby freeing up the aforementioned space.
1
08/03/2021 15:02:56 8 8
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Only 2? I'm sure the staff will be disappointed
56
08/03/2021 15:15:59 4 1
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I recommend reading past the headline, then commenting.
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08/03/2021 15:10:20 1 0
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I guess companies still have to have some presence in offices, which I imagine will be invaluable for trainees and new starters & the like.

If literally everyone worked from home, all of the time, properly training new, inexperienced staff and school leavers would be nigh on impossible?
57
08/03/2021 15:15:59 1 0
bbc
That is very true - it is fine for established members of staff but for new joiners (especially staff like new Grads) getting face to face time with colleagues is very important so allowances need to be made for that. In a total wfh environment that would be tricky
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08/03/2021 15:08:35 113 12
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HMRC is doing exactly the same thing; allowing its staff to work from home for a minimum of 2-3 days per week or more, in some areas. It's in their new contracts. The idea that workers are going to come back in their droves is simply not going to happen.
58
08/03/2021 15:09:53 11 10
bbc
That is probably why the service from HMRC is so poor !
59
08/03/2021 15:16:46 8 6
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office keyboards are dirtier than some toilet seats, just shows you and people eat at their desks. technology at home is the way forward, it'll only ge tmore sophisticated from now on, the more practice we have at doing it. Also, we can use 'stand-up desks and work and think better standing up instead of beinq stuffed into unhealthy cubicles
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Tom
08/03/2021 15:16:53 45 12
bbc
So still three days of pointless commuting for office workers?

Why aren't we just posing the question to the staff and asking their preference. Some people are more than happy working from home full time and others will want to be in the office more. Providing it doesn't vastly sway in one direction, it will improve employee moral and overall be better for the enviroment.
344
08/03/2021 16:20:39 14 3
bbc
'Why aren't we just posing the question to the staff and asking their preference?'

Whilst getting their opinion is a good thing to do, the choice lies with the employer. The business needs have to come first.
29
08/03/2021 15:10:54 7 0
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"BP has told office-based staff"
61
08/03/2021 15:16:57 0 1
bbc
Call me cynical, but I think that might be a joke you've missed...
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08/03/2021 15:04:19 442 28
bbc
I'm looking forward to hybrid working. Not having to commute 5 days a week will be very nice, but equally, not being stuck at home all day every day (after a year of it), and seeing work colleagues, will be a very nice change!
62
08/03/2021 15:17:19 12 3
bbc
Exactly how I plan to do it, and I have even bought a hybrid car.

All I have to do now is to persuade the boss to decorate my office room and stop turning it into a storage area, which has happened since I started WFH last March.
63
08/03/2021 15:17:26 10 6
bbc
And so it starts the new working way and mass redundancy as less office space is needed and the facilities needed for that !!,.
I.E If at work 3 days and all staff alternate you only need 3 floors not 5 floors . SAVE SAVE SAVE ON RENT CATERING AND LOTS MORE!!!
87
08/03/2021 15:24:02 0 0
bbc
True - these new working practices will impact a lot of service companies (especially in cities) that cater for people being in the office. There is a possible risk that there becomes a segregation between those lucky souls who can wfh and those who can't or loose their job due to people not spending time on the office
105
08/03/2021 15:19:55 3 0
bbc
So businesses should spend money that they don't need to in your world?
64
08/03/2021 15:18:17 8 3
bbc
This is great but needs to be a fluid arrangement. Sometimes meeting face to face is essential, so companies shouldn't be prescriptive about WFH and office time. It is hugely role dependent and there are many other factors that come in to play. But if both employee and employer can make it work for them, great.
25
08/03/2021 15:09:59 107 62
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fewer
65
08/03/2021 15:18:22 29 24
bbc
So the sum total of your useful contribution is a grammar police job....

What did you do for entertainment before the interweb?
117
08/03/2021 15:29:27 6 1
bbc
Game of Thrones. Clearly.
699
08/03/2021 18:11:57 0 0
bbc
Internet
928
08/03/2021 19:52:31 0 0
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Lighten up, that was funny!
Nothing else worth reading here, it's all just ranting by folks who will never be swayed by the opposing point of view, so might as well extract a laugh or two.
66
08/03/2021 15:18:28 82 8
bbc
Seems sensible. WFH has changed many peoples lives for the better, but it’s not for everyone, particularly those in the early stages of careers or in certain job roles. Flexibility seems to tick most boxes whatever your viewpoint and should make for better working environments at home and in the office.
74
08/03/2021 15:20:49 48 5
bbc
Totally agree - I've had some recent grads working with me and we have had to take extra steps to try and make them feel welcome as we can't meet them face to face. It would be difficult for some staff to totally work from home
67
08/03/2021 15:10:37 27 14
bbc
No requirement for 3rd Runways or HS2 then ?!
75
08/03/2021 15:20:57 38 4
bbc
You really think the 3rd runway is for commuters?
16
08/03/2021 15:08:35 113 12
bbc
HMRC is doing exactly the same thing; allowing its staff to work from home for a minimum of 2-3 days per week or more, in some areas. It's in their new contracts. The idea that workers are going to come back in their droves is simply not going to happen.
68
08/03/2021 15:12:10 2 6
bbc
Do they think China will be doing the same thing?!
159
08/03/2021 15:35:32 4 2
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If we are going to be dragged to the bottom by trying to compete with their sweat shops then we are all lost.
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Tom
08/03/2021 15:19:36 8 9
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Is it just me struggling to see why this is deserving of front page news?
125
08/03/2021 15:30:06 1 0
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Because long term changes in working locations & commuting will have a significant impact on the whole country, even those who don't WFH. Will affect strategic policy decisions about transport infrastructure requirements, the nature of urban environment and even climate change targets. Decisions by FTSE100 companies on matters like this are a bellwether for rest of business world. Hence: News.
382
08/03/2021 16:29:42 0 0
bbc
It has to be better than the wingefest the press have jumped on.
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08/03/2021 15:20:15 9 4
bbc
Yep, the same relaxation is coming our way, and we are a multi-national company. 2 days gives flexibility while recognising that the tech industry relies heavily on knowledge share and collaborative working. The office environment still has much to offer.

Companies will not instantly move to WFH, as some people may expect. It will be an evolution, not a revolution.
107
08/03/2021 15:27:24 2 0
bbc
We've also been told we will only be going back on a flexible basis. Sounds great to me.
71
08/03/2021 15:20:31 166 14
bbc
For many people, the flexibility of being able to work from home, will be a deal-breaker with regard to applying for a job. Forward-thinking companies will adapt to this 'new normal', where possible.
337
08/03/2021 16:18:11 39 12
bbc
True, but I think the weight of power with employment will lie with the employers over the next few years.

With ~0.75 million more on the dole since the start of the pandemic, would you really turn down a job if it was work onsite if you needed it?
666
08/03/2021 17:56:21 2 0
bbc
This flexibility has been with many large companies for over a decade already. This is not flexibility. This is a requirement. How can you not see this is a backward step? Unless you never worked in offices to know that most decent companies have allowed this for ages.
737
08/03/2021 18:22:37 1 6
bbc
Working from home is another namby pamby, right on trendy thing young people will want to do to avoid a hard days work. Get them down the mines 14 hours a day, then they'd be happy to ponce about in an office for only 7.
854
08/03/2021 19:05:36 4 0
bbc
It definitely is a deal breaker with me now. My organisation ended up recruiting two remote workers (pre-pandemic) simply because they were struggling to recruit locally. I relocated for this job, but I don't think I'll ever want to relocate again (it'd have to be my dream job). I've already made it quite clear that I don't want to go full-time back in the office.
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08/03/2021 15:20:40 7 15
bbc
So I assume you're all quite happy to see your wages reduced to account for the money you won't be spending on ridiculous commutes you shouldn't have chosen to do in the first place and all the peripheral costs you didn't need to spend (£4 coffees, £6 sandwiches etc)?
The wages saved and reduced rents for office space should see profits of your companies soar!
92
08/03/2021 15:25:33 1 1
bbc
Prepare for a pay cut
651
08/03/2021 17:54:10 0 0
bbc
That's a bit of a silly argument, why would firms cut wages if they are going to save money on office space / rent? Most firms don't pay for your commuting or lunch, those costs come out of your salary. So this looks like savings on both sides which sound like win / win.
73
08/03/2021 15:20:46 9 7
bbc
just like the spinning jenny was replaced by the power loom and the super loom during th eIndustrial REvolution, now we have the Covid Revolution and commuting is 'so yesteryear', it will be replaced by working from home on a sophisticated machine.
66
08/03/2021 15:18:28 82 8
bbc
Seems sensible. WFH has changed many peoples lives for the better, but it’s not for everyone, particularly those in the early stages of careers or in certain job roles. Flexibility seems to tick most boxes whatever your viewpoint and should make for better working environments at home and in the office.
74
08/03/2021 15:20:49 48 5
bbc
Totally agree - I've had some recent grads working with me and we have had to take extra steps to try and make them feel welcome as we can't meet them face to face. It would be difficult for some staff to totally work from home
372
08/03/2021 16:28:05 5 1
bbc
And it’s unhealthy to permanently blur home & work life into one. Some companies and industries will be absolutely fine but it’s definitely not for everyone.
67
08/03/2021 15:10:37 27 14
bbc
No requirement for 3rd Runways or HS2 then ?!
75
08/03/2021 15:20:57 38 4
bbc
You really think the 3rd runway is for commuters?
123
08/03/2021 15:23:37 3 8
bbc
Scheduled flights = Business flights = Business Commuters !!
184
08/03/2021 15:38:51 3 4
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If you thought about it you might conclude that the same technology will reduce the need for so much business travel.
970
08/03/2021 20:22:43 0 0
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People haven't heard of air freight
76
08/03/2021 15:21:27 37 7
bbc
I bet theres a grab for Monday and Friday WFH.
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01
08/03/2021 15:25:51 39 2
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I chose Wednesday as it splits the week up nicely.
641
08/03/2021 17:52:39 0 0
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Alternate weeks might work well.
865
08/03/2021 19:11:33 0 0
bbc
Also know as the Tuesday, Wednesday And Thursday's.
5
08/03/2021 15:05:17 4 9
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people are getting some work life balance back and some desperately needed travel £ + time savings .. no more extortionate Annual Travel Rail passes (season tickets)-
This is only the start CPI Inflation fraud also has to go now. BT and Vodafone Price rise matching formulas CPI + 3.9% = 4.5% next month.. Council Tax 5% (Not in CPI) etc so its time for the people to bring the Govt down a peg or 2
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08/03/2021 15:14:45 0 0
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The CPI and RPI fraud has been a key plank of successive Governments - very few question it.
Removed
4
08/03/2021 15:05:05 4 15
bbc
So I have to fill my car up then drive to their house to pay?!!!
79
08/03/2021 15:21:36 1 0
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Your humour appears to be lost sadly.
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08/03/2021 15:22:15 6 9
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can't believe we never thought about or embraced this wfh before. but now their hands are forced. we have polluted Earth so much with smelly cars that the air will be much cleaner if we stay home to work.
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08/03/2021 15:33:14 0 0
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Sorry, but private transport is only responsible for a small proportion of pollution.
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08/03/2021 15:07:30 228 50
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So HS2 is even more pointless now as there will be even less people commuting into London (which was one of the key drivers of HS2, to free up space on the existing West Coast main line for more commuters).....
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08/03/2021 15:22:24 9 16
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We are moving away from private vehicles, like it or not electric cars are no panacea , so we will need more HS2 type projects along with local rail and trams to go inter city. What stinks about HS2 are the personal fortunes being made out it, which we would get even if it was a labour project.
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GW
08/03/2021 18:10:47 0 0
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Cars fill up treasury with money looks like they will elsewhere fresh air perhaps!
715
08/03/2021 18:15:31 2 2
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Plain wrong driverless cars will replace all horrid public transport. Door to door. Can't be beaten by point to point dull slow Victorian rail tech.
HS2 is a scam always was from day one with the speed lie. Then altered to the capacity lie. Capacity that now is not going to be needed either!
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08/03/2021 19:15:58 1 1
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What stinks is the old stock needs updating much more urgently, before breaking the bank on another vanity project that will be so overpriced no one will use it regularly anyway..
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08/03/2021 20:08:36 0 1
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We still need freight and HS2 adds freight capacity
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08/03/2021 15:22:28 2 10
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what about all those office romances that wont happen ,,, alot of people meet their partners at work and form successful marriages, also no more office scandals, gossip, affairs, and what about the office parties ?
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08/03/2021 15:23:16 1 3
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wfm is a 'win' 'win'.
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08/03/2021 15:09:46 11 6
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Seems sensible - more WFH should be encouraged as long as people can actually do their work, with the right IT support and WiFi strength etc.
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08/03/2021 15:23:25 3 1
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wifi is a funtion of your geographic location, i.e. not the same service everywhere. Having said that there needs to be a change in how people use IT, Many web based applications are often badly designed and generate copious amounts of overhead to the real data needed.
Performance measures need to change to monitoring outcomes not how long one sits in front of a screen
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Ian
08/03/2021 15:11:49 345 48
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? We've proved we can be productive at home
? We cut down on pollution and burning of fossil fuels
? We cut down on traffic congestion and public transport over-crowding
? We get a better work-life balance with improved mental health

Only the crustiest of dinosaurs would object to home working post Covid ?????

OK, it's not possible for everyone all the time.

But, for some of the time, it is.
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Unfortunately Ian! Boris and his team will be passing brown envelopes to company directors to get people into the office! I work for one of top companies in the Uk. Already had Company director preferring us workers in the office. When the time comes but he will work from home in Sunny Ascot! I would love to work from home permanently! ?? Removed
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08/03/2021 15:34:19 7 13
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over time company will find
a) it pays more or finds it harder to attract staff
b) gets work down more slowly than its competitors who provide at least some wfh
c) will call their boss Michael Scott.
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08/03/2021 15:36:44 11 4
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Your arguments are negated by cynicism and disinformation
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SAM
08/03/2021 16:02:10 15 8
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Unfortunately, it's all about control - the staid dinosaurs do not believe that people have the discipline or will-power to work from home and therefore in their minds their employees don't. They like to have someone in the office to crack the whip over!
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08/03/2021 16:35:44 1 2
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Considering just how many "brown envelopes" are apparently passed around, you'd have thought someone in the police would have noticed...
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08/03/2021 16:45:12 5 2
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"Boris and his team will be passing brown envelopes to company directors to get people into the office"

What on earth are you talking about?
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08/03/2021 18:15:24 0 1
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You need to get back to the office, the economy needs you back. Cafes, restaurants, pubs, retail all need you lazy bunch back in the office.
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08/03/2021 18:11:32 0 1
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Silly comment. People who work from home miss out of a lot of interaction and supervision. So bad luck it isn’t going to last
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08/03/2021 18:20:20 0 1
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When you are the boss you can do what you like; until then you are a cog. Take the paycheck and stop whinging or leave. Your call.
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08/03/2021 18:38:32 0 0
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How wrong you are.
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08/03/2021 18:48:31 0 0
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A large part of office working is efficiency.
It is factually more efficient to be at the office for jobs than at home.
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08/03/2021 18:59:33 0 0
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There will be a massive number of people looking for jobs that are 1 or the other and the market will be a job change fest next year
Thank god for an article where Meghan is not rammed down our throats Removed
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08/03/2021 15:27:01 1 0
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Don't worry in a few days time it will all be yesterdays news where they look for the next big scoop.
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08/03/2021 15:29:35 2 0
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According to "media" reports the public are upset and demanding answers.
Back in the real world I haven't spoken to anyone who gives a toss about the attention seeking pair's latest attempt to be relevant.
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08/03/2021 15:59:01 0 0
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You've spoilt it though by mentioning her.
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08/03/2021 15:17:26 10 6
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And so it starts the new working way and mass redundancy as less office space is needed and the facilities needed for that !!,.
I.E If at work 3 days and all staff alternate you only need 3 floors not 5 floors . SAVE SAVE SAVE ON RENT CATERING AND LOTS MORE!!!
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08/03/2021 15:24:02 0 0
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True - these new working practices will impact a lot of service companies (especially in cities) that cater for people being in the office. There is a possible risk that there becomes a segregation between those lucky souls who can wfh and those who can't or loose their job due to people not spending time on the office
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08/03/2021 15:24:38 5 0
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Absolutely makes sense to have more working if jobs can be done at home
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08/03/2021 15:36:23 0 1
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the clown would be more effective working from Mars...
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08/03/2021 15:18:12 1 11
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So long as these part timers dont expect any dis counts on season tickets for only using trains 3/5 days a week I dont care ! Im not subserdizing people to work in london ! I voted for my freedom !
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08/03/2021 15:29:09 2 0
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I'm sure if they are only in the office 2-3 days a week they will pay as they go. Means less money for the trains so you will pay as they will put up prices and cut services.
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08/03/2021 15:34:31 3 0
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I'm sure your spelling and grammar will free you from ever having to do office-based work...
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08/03/2021 17:58:53 0 0
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Those of us who've been working full time from home throughout this pandemic, paying our taxes, have probably been paying your benefits allowing you to sit at home trolling all day. But that's OK
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08/03/2021 15:25:30 4 6
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office scandals are for sad cases, also i wouldn't be bothered if i never attended another office party, i'd rather go party with people i actually chose to go with and 'liked' rather than putting on a false front! and office affairs are just that - tacky, and sad and its favouritism in action! No more of that = yippee!!! Can just get on with the actual reason we're there in first place - TO WORK
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08/03/2021 16:28:28 0 0
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Wow , I bet you are fun to know. People (most people)are socialable and part of learning to be social is to navigate difficult relationships and not just the easy ones. Thought about being a lighthouse keeper
?
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08/03/2021 15:25:30 2 6
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Work from home two days a week.....And in an office the other five!
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08/03/2021 15:27:46 4 0
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Did you just teleport in from Victorian London ?
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08/03/2021 15:20:40 7 15
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So I assume you're all quite happy to see your wages reduced to account for the money you won't be spending on ridiculous commutes you shouldn't have chosen to do in the first place and all the peripheral costs you didn't need to spend (£4 coffees, £6 sandwiches etc)?
The wages saved and reduced rents for office space should see profits of your companies soar!
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08/03/2021 15:25:33 1 1
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Prepare for a pay cut
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08/03/2021 15:37:34 0 0
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Absolutely
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08/03/2021 15:14:37 4 14
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I have no intention of returning to our office as they have a policy that you have to wear a mask sat at your desk for 8 hours. I've never worn a mask yet so no way will I be doing that. I'll continue to reap the benefits of WFH.
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08/03/2021 15:25:42 5 0
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People like you are one of the reasons the rest of us are still stuck at home.
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08/03/2021 15:26:07 3 0
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I'm sure the trusting businesses who also want to save money will see this as an option. Cuts costs not only for the employer but the employee.

Office time is required but not full time for everyone.

The businesses who don't trust their employees will insist all employees must be in the office full time.
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08/03/2021 15:26:10 5 3
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Definitely a win win for the majority of office workers, if my wife works full time from home I will no longer have to pretend I'm interested in what she did at work that day LOL
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08/03/2021 15:28:06 2 2
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Be very afraid of Artificial Intelligence.........a lot of these jobs will be kaput!
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08/03/2021 15:26:19 7 2
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I think its a step forward, and overall will be good for peoples overall health etc, my only concern is security, people have worryingly vulnerable devices at home, which could lead to some "undesirable" access but so long as the company properly trains its staff and accounts for it it should be easy to protect from that, just something that needs to be held in consideration
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08/03/2021 15:15:20 31 3
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Hybrid working should become the norm, if the company can support the employee. There is no downside, less pollution, less commuting for no reason, the way that people have taken to Zoom meetings has broken the model.
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08/03/2021 15:26:22 7 2
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and the employee can support the employer and remain productive. See so many people WFH on fridays and being invisible. this is not all one way.
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08/03/2021 15:26:24 4 4
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i know some who are near suicidal at the thought of continuing to work from home
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meh
08/03/2021 15:10:57 53 12
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Unfortunately for me the sector i work in has a similar mindset to what Goldman Sachs and Barclays in Finance want to do.

That is going back to the office 5 days a week when this blows over.

Cant help but think its time for me to move into a different sector.

Wont be too hard working in IT but taking a pay cut wont be fun if i do value wfh!
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x1
08/03/2021 15:26:40 7 1
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Market economics will move the dial in favour of the more efficient way of working. When you have companies bidding for work and one can undercut the other due to smaller overheads them most efficient will grow, whilst others wither.

Same rules as shopping, first it was local, then town centre, then out of town, now warehouse delivery.

Profitability will be the bottom line as always.
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08/03/2021 15:14:32 9 2
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More heating of homes is not good.
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08/03/2021 15:26:40 4 4
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More than offset by less cars on the road and less office space....