Brexit: Lord Frost accuses EU of 'ill will' over UK exit
08/03/2021 | news | politics | 3,948
Lord Frost says the EU has "significantly undermined" post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland.
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08/03/2021 10:11:50 115 45
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The UK walked out on the EU, lied about the EU, insulted the EU, made new legally binding agreements with the EU and then broke them - and now they want to be treated equally ? They should be grateful the EU wouldn't stoop that low.
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 49 74
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Who put up an Irish border for about an hour without telling the Irish Government, who weaponised a vaccine because of their incompetence, who lied about the AZ vaccine out of spite now can't get their EU citizens to accept it, yet still won't fulfill orders from Australia? The EU. Despicable organisation supported by despicable people.
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08/03/2021 10:57:20 5 19
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Is this like their actions over the vaccine. But its not just the UK they are mistreating they have done the same with Australia with the vaccine. All to cover up their incompetence
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08/03/2021 11:35:25 2 9
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So did EU.
08/03/2021 16:07:54 1 2
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The EU tried to shaft us, suspended the NI Protocol unilaterally, and then blamed us. The only way to deal with them is to be ruthless. They are run by an unelected Commission and have no morality, especially now that are panicking over their vaccine disaster.
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08/03/2021 10:11:51 14 31
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I agree whole heartedly with Lord Frost. They are doing everything they can to disrupt the UK's economy. They are a fine example themselves of how not to operate.
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08/03/2021 10:23:58 14 5
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The U.K. doesn’t need any help to disrupt its economy, it doing a fine job on its own.
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08/03/2021 10:55:05 0 4
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Their vaccine debacle is now a disaster and has had global consequences

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/europe-vaccine-missteps-alarm-stock-050024055.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australia-hits-back-eu-stops-030100669.html

Now they are refusing to ratify the deal, we should simply say 'OK' no-deal then kick out their trawlers from UK waters for a start. The EU are NOT our friends.
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08/03/2021 10:12:56 109 35
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This is all going down just as us Remainers said it would. Project Here. You won, suck it up, get over it, end of...
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08/03/2021 10:29:10 43 92
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All this shows is how the EU are buried in their own bureaucracy to the extent they are happy for one of their own members and their neighbour to suffer shortages of food etc. for no good reason. These issue will be resolved but the underlying self serving nature of the EU Commission will never go away. The EU is a busted flush and is slowly falling apart, they can't even vaccinate their people
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08/03/2021 10:30:00 7 28
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The EU is the one weaponising vaccines as they did PPE last spring, they are refusing to rafity the deal, they broke the NI protocol and caused the Irish issue.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
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08/03/2021 10:42:10 19 2
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Brexiters “Don’t like it up ‘em!” Dad’s Army style?
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08/03/2021 10:47:57 18 0
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Johnson building a bunker to hide from what is inevitably coming.
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08/03/2021 11:03:19 2 17
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Remoaners never wanted the covid vaccine
08/03/2021 16:05:29 0 4
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You Remainders predicted economic disaster from the day of the vote in 2016. It has not happened, but you are still complaining. You will have to get over it when Brexit allows this country, the one you hate so much, to prosper.
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MVS
08/03/2021 10:13:16 5 20
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Its an ill wind that blows nothing but ill will and its coming from the continent.
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08/03/2021 10:24:37 5 0
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Which continent?
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08/03/2021 10:25:56 2 1
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It’s also coming from inside the UK

The about half of us who are appalled by the racism of the other half have not gone away and we are no less angry

Anything the EU or anyone else does to harm England and Wales is aces with us
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08/03/2021 10:13:59 318 107
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So Frost is blaming the EU for a deal that he brokered? Is the EU at fault for our Government nor being given time to scrutinise the deal? I recall the ERG and Boris lauding it as being a brilliant deal for the UK. Please explain why it's the EU's fault that frost agreed to this. Who elected frost?
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08/03/2021 10:26:41 126 188
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The UK's plan A was to accept the report of the EU's own expert, Lars Karlson, and an electronic border be installed between NI and ROI.

The EU rejected the report of their own expert and insisted on the NI protocol, any problems from here are down to this decision.
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08/03/2021 11:01:26 9 67
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EU is bankrupt no one wants their polluting cars
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08/03/2021 11:07:08 43 5
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How could anyone have predicted this mess? Oh wait...
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08/03/2021 11:09:36 15 3
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Applause! Almost precisely what I rushed to post before saw your comment,,,so will uptick you as more likely to get seen,,,And !%!!!! This is a mob not even vaguely up to the job, but always up to no good!!
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08/03/2021 11:30:31 2 11
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Clearly you have no understanding of the protocol and its requirements. Read up before typing about something you dont understand.
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08/03/2021 11:43:53 18 3
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Spot on. The Tories negotiated it with the EU, agreed the deal, forced it through parliament and now realise it was a foolish idea and are trying to break international law to fix it. In fact they've already unilaterally changed the deal which is illegal and at the same time the tory supporters were attacking the EU for threatening to do the same thing.

We are a laughingstock of a country now
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08/03/2021 11:46:49 1 9
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"So Frost is blaming the EU for a deal that he brokered?"

Except he isn't!
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08/03/2021 11:52:42 6 0
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Sadly this was always what they were going to do - blame somebody else. And there are - and no doubt will continue to be - people who lap it up.
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08/03/2021 12:15:52 0 6
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No he's not, do not read or understand anything ?
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08/03/2021 12:39:09 9 1
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Oh it's better than that - Frost is an unelected bureaucrat. Honestly, it's comedy gold you couldn't write this stuff.
Who elected Frost eh. Then who elected crooked Barnier who couldn't keep his trap shut and his trousers zippered. Removed
08/03/2021 15:35:02 0 4
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The same people who elected Barnier and the EU Commission?
08/03/2021 21:59:26 0 0
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It takes two to tango, two to agree and two to war.

Should have been "walk..."

It only takes one to "walk..."

EAT YOUR OWN INDEBTEDNESS.
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08/03/2021 10:14:13 347 111
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So the unelected beaurocrat negotiates a particularly bad deal then gets a new job post Brexit to put right the holes in his earlier (pre Brexit) poor deal and then blames the EU for something he negotiated (or am I missing something)
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MVS
08/03/2021 10:16:07 186 36
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"Unelected bureaucrat..." Love it!
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08/03/2021 10:31:54 70 8
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I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Johnson assured us we have a "fantastic" deal, and what about his personal or professional history would give you any reason to doubt his word or integrity? When has he ever put his personal progression about the needs of anyone else?
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08/03/2021 10:44:48 45 2
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That would be the deal Johnson told us was fantastic and we will prosper mightily as a result
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08/03/2021 11:01:44 3 31
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Remonaers move on
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08/03/2021 11:31:04 1 9
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Another one that has zero understanding the protocol...incredible bigotry.
08/03/2021 12:40:43 1 7
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i think you will find not one person is elected on eu top table
08/03/2021 14:42:23 1 0
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Yes, the bit about the unelected beaurocrat negotiating with OTHER unelected beaurocrats??? Or were you trying for irony???
08/03/2021 15:07:17 0 4
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Yes ... a whole ghastly shed of second rate failed politico technocrats in the totally unaccountable EU Commission? On balance Lord Frost is the Least Worst bureaucrat. Further, how anyone can defend the Commission at even compared to the Nasty Party government we have beggars belief.
08/03/2021 15:12:18 4 0
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He actually failed to get a deal- Boris (lord help us) had to ride to his rescue.
08/03/2021 15:32:59 0 9
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What you have missed is that the EU tried to shaft us during the trade negotiations and then tried to suspend the NI Protocol unilaterally. They want to harm us and the only way to deal with them is to be hard as nails.
Why are there so many EU-lovers on the BBC?
08/03/2021 16:06:13 5 0
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No - not a thing.

The only ones creating "ill will" are bozo and his bunch of clowns breaking the agreement they signed up to a couple of months ago. Now using their usual trick of trying to blame someone else for their law breaking.
08/03/2021 16:21:37 1 0
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Spot on.
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08/03/2021 10:14:18 114 18
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Unelected bureaucrat blames EU for UK breaking their agreement.

What government?
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08/03/2021 10:26:18 120 29
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Who needs a competent government when you can use the standard approach to foreign relations that worked for centuries:

"You there! Out of the way. We're British, don't you know."
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08/03/2021 11:32:06 1 13
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Assume you refer to EU unelected bureaucrats.
08/03/2021 15:48:09 0 11
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Unelected EU Commission tries to shaft UK, suspends NI Protocol, and blames UK.
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gjb
08/03/2021 10:15:01 125 29
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If you leave the club, don’t expect to get the benefits that the members do. After all Boris said it would be an oven ready easy deal, maybe he forgot that the other side has to agree to the deal as well.
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08/03/2021 10:18:26 44 12
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Which they haven't done yet - deferred ratification. So, in essence the WA stands and the trade deal for the moment rests on goodwi.. um ....
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08/03/2021 11:02:50 7 1
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There is no benefits only for the rich for cheap labour
08/03/2021 15:17:34 0 5
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The term "Oven ready deal" was only ever used by the government in reference to the withdrawal agreement, not the trade deal.
08/03/2021 15:46:46 1 7
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The EU is a club that still expects you to pay the subscription after you have left. Your simplistic analogy does not hold.
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08/03/2021 10:15:51 8 21
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The Eu has failed in several area Refugees, Emissions (Both Germany), Vaccine approval (Brussels). Brexit was seen as a punishment exercise to stop others leaving, unfortunately both sides have acted like children and now Northern Ireland and Ireland will suffer the consequences. The EU have to realise they are not gods and the UK have to remember the violence that once marred parts of Ireland
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 4 1
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What on earth are you going on about?
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08/03/2021 10:14:13 347 111
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So the unelected beaurocrat negotiates a particularly bad deal then gets a new job post Brexit to put right the holes in his earlier (pre Brexit) poor deal and then blames the EU for something he negotiated (or am I missing something)
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MVS
08/03/2021 10:16:07 186 36
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"Unelected bureaucrat..." Love it!
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08/03/2021 10:41:23 15 67
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Yes, but I thought he was referring to the unelected EU Commission that has already welshed on the agreement regarding vaccines - unilaterally.
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MVS
08/03/2021 10:44:29 9 36
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The fact that my comment above has got 22 upticks and only 1 down suggests that the vast majority of people on these HYS streams (ardent EU philes for whom the unelected bureaucrats can do no wrong) are so attune to seeing things from their perspective they cannot even recognise subtle sarcasm.
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08/03/2021 11:00:19 2 21
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Hes talking about the eu commission their all unelected you do know that dont you
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08/03/2021 11:00:39 2 17
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Then you ought to pop over to Italy, they have an unelected PM, Mr Draghi, who has just stuffed Australia in the EU's vaccine war - not a smart move for Italy or the EU.

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/europe-vaccine-missteps-alarm-stock-050024055.html
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08/03/2021 11:32:44 2 11
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Yes, useless Von der Leyen is an unelected bureaucrat.
08/03/2021 12:47:41 13 1
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When did you vote for Frost?
08/03/2021 15:34:06 0 6
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The European Commission are unelected bureurocrats....do you love that as well?
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08/03/2021 10:16:51 10 21
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The UK welcomes competition.

The EU stifles competition.

Pretty apparent to the rest of the world.
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08/03/2021 10:18:57 12 5
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And yet when the EU "competes" with the UK, the UK cries foul and complains it is not being treated fairly.
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08/03/2021 10:19:10 4 1
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Have YOU asked the rest of the world? How, when and where?
Oh you didn’t, so it’s just ????
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08/03/2021 10:17:10 133 39
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This wouldn’t have been an issue but the U.K. decided to leave and create all the problems for itself.
Many more to come.
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08/03/2021 10:36:22 2 25
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Staying in was an even bigger problem! I'd rather what we have than what we had & the direction the EU wants to go. That said, I firmly believe the EU will implode within the next 5 years. Signs are there already. First the eastern Europeans, then the Greeks, Portuguese, Italians etc.
08/03/2021 15:51:16 0 11
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I know, how frustrating that all those 17.4 million stupid people voted to leave. If only everyone was as wise as you, we could have been subject to EU laws and still be paying them billions each year, for decades to come.
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08/03/2021 10:17:48 147 23
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Brexit Minister, the unelected bureaucrat Lord Frost, negotiated and agreed this deal. It is a bit rich of him to blame the EU when HIS deal turns out to be a turkey.

That said. Maybe the problem originates with his boss. It is now clear Frost's main instruction was to deliver a slogan, "Get Brexit Done" rather than deliver a well thought out, sustainable trade deal that benefits all of the UK
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08/03/2021 10:41:55 43 85
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ROFL who in the EU has been elected? Even Italy's PM, Draghi, put in by the EU had a hand in the Vaccine war stopping exports to Australia (what had the to do with the EU's incompetence over vaccine procurement?) & now Italy's reputation is stained.

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/europe-vaccine-missteps-alarm-stock-050024055.html
08/03/2021 15:41:35 1 7
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Our elected Prime Ministers had to deal with the unelected Michel Barnier as the representative of the unelected EU Commission.
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08/03/2021 10:17:48 5 24
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Eu playing games and also still sore at uk for leaving... I agree with the government approach to NI protocol.

Eu is just trying to damage relationships and business between England and NI and also create tension in the Republic with the Nationalists
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08/03/2021 10:26:13 4 1
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The EU is a highly bureaucratic organisation.... it does everything by the book. It applies the agreement to the letter, where our gov makes it up as it goes along. The architects of Leave criticised the EU as being bureaucratic and slow to respond because of it. They wanted us to be "nimble". I don't see why the gov are surprised at how the EU are applying the rules of the agreement.
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08/03/2021 11:37:21 1 0
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You have evidence to proves your assertions?
No?
Thought not.
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08/03/2021 10:17:58 218 46
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So, the unelected architect of the original crappy deal seeks to displace blame on the EU.

Quelle surprise!
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08/03/2021 10:38:45 138 30
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Yep, disinformation and distortion of facts are the berxit's most valuable tools.
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08/03/2021 10:51:35 1 18
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LOL - head in sand or up you own a*** - even the Guardian admits to the real reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
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08/03/2021 11:32:21 0 22
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Do some reading of the protocol and oh yes just look at how the EU enacted article 16 with no warning....something the protocol mandates. Zero understanding of facts and just bigoted about brexit
08/03/2021 15:37:01 0 5
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So a BBC Remainer tries to say that the monstrous and bullying EU have behaved ethically throughout.....quelle surprise!
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08/03/2021 10:18:12 74 14
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There are two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Nevertheless Lord Frosts approach is that of a bull in a China shop. If you want to get a deal with someone nothing to be gained by needlessy pissing them off. We made a deal, signed off on it, vast majority of MP's approved it so why all of a sudden are issues arising all EU's fault. Lord Frost negotiated deal.
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08/03/2021 10:50:37 25 57
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The truth is firmly on the UK's side, the EU started a low level trade war on Jan 1st, it exploded into a full scale war with the EU weaponising vaccines when Bild reported the 1st German to have the vaccine got it in England & said the EU vaccine project was a great advert for Brexit. Ursula then went Ape s*** & everything else followed. She even managed to make the EU vaccine debacle worse!
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08/03/2021 10:56:41 6 0
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Lord Frosts
One of him is bad enough.
08/03/2021 16:09:11 0 2
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If you are dealing with a ruthless organisation, headed by an unelected Commission, you have to stand up for yourself.
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08/03/2021 10:18:17 94 21
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I had thought that being out of the EU couldn't happen fast enough. "Get Brexit done." Even an extension was explicitly denied. Why the unilateral action now and blame the EU for it? You signed up, the EU delivered and now it's time to stick to it. Because the fact is, UK is now a third country and will be treated as such and not a EU member which benefits from the single market. This is the truth
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08/03/2021 10:39:28 17 60
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LOL it is called 'a response' - and that to the EU's unilateral declaration of a vaccine war & trashing of the NI protocol for something nowt to do with the UK

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australia-hits-back-eu-stops-030100669.html

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/europe-vaccine-missteps-alarm-stock-050024055.html
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08/03/2021 11:04:34 0 11
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EU is bankrupt
08/03/2021 16:03:09 0 5
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When a Remoaner says 'this is the truth', you know they are talking complaining rubbish.
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08/03/2021 10:15:01 125 29
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If you leave the club, don’t expect to get the benefits that the members do. After all Boris said it would be an oven ready easy deal, maybe he forgot that the other side has to agree to the deal as well.
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08/03/2021 10:18:26 44 12
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Which they haven't done yet - deferred ratification. So, in essence the WA stands and the trade deal for the moment rests on goodwi.. um ....
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08/03/2021 10:23:15 3 26
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EU trade war, we should walk away now, not only has the UK seen what the EU is like, so have the US, Canada, Japan & Australia all of whom have had issues with the EU's weaponising vaccines. They did the same with PPE last spring, France & Germany even stopped it going to Italy! We are better off with no deal, we need no border in Ireland we have an FTA with the Irish. EU will put one up
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 20 1
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Er, no.

The EU Parliament's ratification of the trade deal is contingent on the successful implementation of the WA.

Spaffer agreed to give the EU a border down the Irish Sea and also promised to have the requisite infrastructure in place and working in order to get the WA. Thus far he has failed.
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08/03/2021 10:18:32 182 39
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Sounds like Frosty is throwing his toys out of the pram and trying to blame the EU because this deal is turning out so bad for UK businesses. Should of allowed more time for the deal to be scrutinised then. The Eton buffoon said it was a “oven ready”deal - therefore these problems must have been sorted out. Unless Bozo was lying.
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08/03/2021 10:31:37 80 140
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The EU are the ones who refuse to ratify the agreement and started a trade and vaccine war, but nice attempt at deflection

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
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08/03/2021 10:33:24 30 3
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The irony is, Frost is an unelected beaurocrat. ??
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08/03/2021 10:34:48 11 40
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The EU is not our friend, it is dysfunctional and particularly unpleasant when it doesn't get its own way, not it wishes to punish the UK (as do you) for voting to leave. The UK, like the Aussies, Canada,Japan & US are suffering because EU screwed up their vaccine project.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australia-hits-back-eu-stops-030100669.html
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08/03/2021 11:02:15 13 3
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Eton toffs
08/03/2021 15:39:44 0 3
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Well done, you managed to get most of the Remoaner cliches in your post, although you did forget 'sunlit uplands" . Of course if you are a blinkered BBC EU-lover, they are a very fair and ethical organisation. You think they wish us well and anything that goes wrong is our fault.
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08/03/2021 10:18:35 9 17
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Very British, very understated & very polite. The EU on Jan 1st, as many businesses point out, started a guerrilla trade war with us, one sided so far. Their unbelievable stupidity trashing the NI Protocol over an EU/Astrazeneca spat stirred up NI, the EU then walked away & left the UK to pick up the pieces. They've not ratified the deal, walk away & fight back. They are not friends
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08/03/2021 10:21:23 9 3
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Ill-informed hyperbole ... Kwitters ever the victim and blind to the harm their decisions now heap on the UK.
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08/03/2021 10:22:00 5 0
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No, they are not friends - they are competitors. That's our fault for leaving.
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08/03/2021 10:29:10 4 0
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Yes a "Guerrilla war"...
Their weapons? All the things that we were told would come into affect from the first of January. But were hand waved because we absolutely had to have that "oven ready deal" agreed so our PM could save face...

Yes the EU were gits over the Vaccine, but they didnt go through with it did they?
As for picking up the pieces? We broke it, The NI situation is of OUR making.
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08/03/2021 10:30:32 3 1
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You may see it that way, but the Rest of the World doesn't.

The EU immediately backtracked and apologised for it's error, when will our Regime admit it's mistakes over the crappy WA it came up with and can't implement.

Who do you think Biden is going to blame for the threat to the peace process and further destabilisation of his aim to rebuild the Western Alliance?
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08/03/2021 10:16:51 10 21
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The UK welcomes competition.

The EU stifles competition.

Pretty apparent to the rest of the world.
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08/03/2021 10:18:57 12 5
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And yet when the EU "competes" with the UK, the UK cries foul and complains it is not being treated fairly.
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08/03/2021 10:53:08 0 3
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The EU can't compete, that is what this is all about, the EU v Brexit Britain on vaccines. Only a month or so out and the German press telling Ursula that her vaccine project compared to UK's was an excellent advert for Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
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08/03/2021 10:16:51 10 21
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The UK welcomes competition.

The EU stifles competition.

Pretty apparent to the rest of the world.
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08/03/2021 10:19:10 4 1
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Have YOU asked the rest of the world? How, when and where?
Oh you didn’t, so it’s just ????
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08/03/2021 10:24:56 0 5
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Yes. Just ask Australia and everyone else that lives outside of Brussels.
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08/03/2021 10:19:20 214 35
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This from the self-same Frost who, back in 2016, admitted any deal would NEVER be as good as what we had as a member of the EU.
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08/03/2021 10:47:53 64 154
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But then all the other deals we are churning out far exceed the EU one - it is failing, can't get a vaccine sorted, starts a vaccine war with everyone, and horrifies international investors who think 'why invest in them'. Try and grow up stop being a 'Little European' - look to the RoW as the UK is doing. Some in the EU do, the 1,500 firms applying to trade in London for a start.
08/03/2021 17:18:29 1 0
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As did Johnson, prior to the sound of opportunity knocking.
08/03/2021 22:02:07 0 0
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A golden cage is still a prison.
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08/03/2021 10:19:21 14 1
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We have left, we are a third country, we need to get on with it.
And I am saying that as someone who voted leave.
It is a bad deal for the UK but it is what we are stuck with for now.
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08/03/2021 10:28:57 10 6
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No, we need to rejoin, if only EFTA.
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08/03/2021 10:32:55 4 3
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Yep, until we rejoin.
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08/03/2021 10:19:24 24 3
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Did anyone bother reading the agreement that they signed?
You can't "wing it" on international policy, even if they think they can get away with it domestically.
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08/03/2021 10:21:00 7 2
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I don't think either read it ... application of Article 16 and all that.
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08/03/2021 10:30:52 1 4
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The europeans haven't yet, the translator hasn't finished
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08/03/2021 10:45:15 0 7
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Ursuala's 45 minute NI Border & vaccine war caused this. She stirred up NI, without warning anyone it seems, including the Irish whose border she closed! She trashed the NI protocol, EU now refuses to raftify the deal. Try asking the Aussies

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australia-hits-back-eu-stops-030100669.html

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/europe-vaccine-missteps-alarm-stock-050024055.html
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08/03/2021 10:20:09 101 10
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'Get Brexit done' they said. Now it seems we have an unelected bureaucrat trying to undo it. It seems the whole of the UK has been 'done' by Brexit.
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08/03/2021 11:57:32 43 6
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Done like 'kippers (pardon the pun).

The majority of those motivated by whatever they were promised by the Leave campaign are likely to be disappointed as post-Brexit reality unfolds.

Those who "won" are those who can continue to avoid being identified as owners or beneficiaries of taxable entities - and the population as a whole will pay for it.
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08/03/2021 12:29:25 11 0
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Yes, a new 3 word slogan beckons: “Done by Brexit”
08/03/2021 15:58:43 1 8
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The unelected Michel Barnier and the rest of the unelected EU Commission are calling the shots. They want to damage us. Brexit will greatly benefit the UK. We have 62 new trade deals we could not have signed in the EU.
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08/03/2021 10:20:22 7 1
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Will the EU bother to even ratify the trade deal if they don't feel they can trust the UK government? May well turn into a "No deal" now.
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08/03/2021 11:16:29 1 0
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"May well turn into "no deal" now." Which was their was their cunning plan all along. Looking incompetent is part of a screen for that.
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08/03/2021 10:20:54 14 5
bbc
Not sure what the point of this is, beyond playing to the deluded domestic Brexit faithful.

Beyond the UK, everyone will see through it, particularly in Washington, where Biden will clearly see who is both threatening the NI peace process and his ambition to rebuild the Western Alliance in the face of Russian/Chinese threats.

Again, it is Putin who benefits.
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08/03/2021 10:22:39 4 14
bbc
The EU are the ones who are imposing borders. Clearly.
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08/03/2021 10:23:19 2 0
bbc
Frost works for PUTIN?
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08/03/2021 10:19:24 24 3
bbc
Did anyone bother reading the agreement that they signed?
You can't "wing it" on international policy, even if they think they can get away with it domestically.
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08/03/2021 10:21:00 7 2
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I don't think either read it ... application of Article 16 and all that.
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08/03/2021 10:18:35 9 17
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Very British, very understated & very polite. The EU on Jan 1st, as many businesses point out, started a guerrilla trade war with us, one sided so far. Their unbelievable stupidity trashing the NI Protocol over an EU/Astrazeneca spat stirred up NI, the EU then walked away & left the UK to pick up the pieces. They've not ratified the deal, walk away & fight back. They are not friends
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08/03/2021 10:21:23 9 3
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Ill-informed hyperbole ... Kwitters ever the victim and blind to the harm their decisions now heap on the UK.
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08/03/2021 10:21:52 4 11
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Peace and the GFA must come first by there being no borders or restrictions between the UK and Ireland.

The EU just don't get it.

People's lives are more important than Brussels politics.
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08/03/2021 10:26:33 6 3
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Maybe the Brexiteers should have thought about that before voting for a process that everyone knew would inevitably lead to borders.
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08/03/2021 10:34:57 0 1
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Not if you sit in Brussels.
The ONLY important thing is to protect the Single Market from nasty outsiders.
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08/03/2021 10:18:35 9 17
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Very British, very understated & very polite. The EU on Jan 1st, as many businesses point out, started a guerrilla trade war with us, one sided so far. Their unbelievable stupidity trashing the NI Protocol over an EU/Astrazeneca spat stirred up NI, the EU then walked away & left the UK to pick up the pieces. They've not ratified the deal, walk away & fight back. They are not friends
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08/03/2021 10:22:00 5 0
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No, they are not friends - they are competitors. That's our fault for leaving.
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08/03/2021 10:22:15 3 7
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There are 2 sides to every deal and if one decides to interpret it differently it is down to bad contractual wording. It is what the 2 sides envisaged as acceptable at the time that it is agreed and things can and do change. We disagreed with the EU when we were in it, and its good to see people fighting for our interests now we are out, elected or not. Put the UK interest 1st.
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08/03/2021 10:22:23 4 5
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When will Brexiteers understand?

The Europeans will only be our friends when we are paying them, sharing our fishing waters is clearly not enough.

We should resume payments and accept their laws, then friendship can resume
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08/03/2021 10:29:40 2 1
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What you suggest isn't friendship..
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08/03/2021 10:33:51 2 2
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Please do not confuse EU with Europeans they are totally different. We in UK are and will continue to be Europeans but thankfully are no longer members of EU.
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08/03/2021 10:39:42 2 2
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I don’t want to be friends with Europe the lies about the vaccine from Merkel and Macron sum them up.
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08/03/2021 10:22:35 15 1
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Frost was chosen to wreak further damage to bozo's "oven ready deal." It's looking like the 1% will get their WTO brexit after all. Frost will shoulder the blame, bozo resigns to "spend more time with his family." Gove or Sunak get the PM gig.
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08/03/2021 10:20:54 14 5
bbc
Not sure what the point of this is, beyond playing to the deluded domestic Brexit faithful.

Beyond the UK, everyone will see through it, particularly in Washington, where Biden will clearly see who is both threatening the NI peace process and his ambition to rebuild the Western Alliance in the face of Russian/Chinese threats.

Again, it is Putin who benefits.
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08/03/2021 10:22:39 4 14
bbc
The EU are the ones who are imposing borders. Clearly.
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08/03/2021 10:30:47 3 1
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Please do explain clearly and concisely how.
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08/03/2021 10:31:03 5 1
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The borders HAVE to be imposed, that was the problem all along! Why can't you quitlings see it?
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08/03/2021 10:38:41 6 0
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Johnson surrendered the Irish Sea border to the EU, all so he could fulfil his own political objective of securing the WA before the General Election, and thus tell gullible voters he was 'getting 'Brexit done'!
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08/03/2021 11:17:04 6 0
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No. The EU is rightly looking to control what is now an EU-UK border.

Didn't Boris say that the point of Brexit was to be able to control our borders? So why complain when the EU seeks to control its borders?
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08/03/2021 10:22:50 12 4
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What kind to total Idiot lets the EU catch 85% of fish in UK Water and does not ask for reciprocal landing rights for the UK Miserable 15%

and before you start the EU is now fishing in a third countries waters .

Frost you are a total incompetent fool just like your puppet master Boris the DIM
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08/03/2021 10:29:52 9 1
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What are you squealing about?! You knew what you voted for! You were warned, but you called it 'Project Fear' and went ahead and voted anyway. You got exactly what you knew you voted for, you won, get over it!
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08/03/2021 10:32:19 4 0
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You quitlings will never be forgiven. You will go down in history as unpatriotic, undemocratic traitors who destroyed the UK. Well done.
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08/03/2021 10:18:26 44 12
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Which they haven't done yet - deferred ratification. So, in essence the WA stands and the trade deal for the moment rests on goodwi.. um ....
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08/03/2021 10:23:15 3 26
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EU trade war, we should walk away now, not only has the UK seen what the EU is like, so have the US, Canada, Japan & Australia all of whom have had issues with the EU's weaponising vaccines. They did the same with PPE last spring, France & Germany even stopped it going to Italy! We are better off with no deal, we need no border in Ireland we have an FTA with the Irish. EU will put one up
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08/03/2021 10:23:35 25 1
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The elephant in the room is that Boris's Irish Sea border creates the same unsolvable problems irrespective of whether the implementation is delayed.
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08/03/2021 10:23:48 105 16
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When it comes to NI and Brexit, it was an after thought.

The UK has shown scant regard for NI and the Tories have played the DUP to suit their own agenda quite brilliantly.

Lord Frost is a liar and like many of his Brexit ilk cannot be trusted.
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08/03/2021 11:25:13 32 57
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The EU have also shown very clearly that *they* cannot be trusted when it comes to NI either, their being quite happy to throw Ireland under a bus with a mere wave of the hand in petulant anger. Section 16 ring any bells, hmmm?

The UK govt quite rightly gets plenty of stick about Brexit, but the way some of you lot talk, you'd think the EU were flawless saints.

Well, they're clearly not.
525
08/03/2021 11:32:34 12 1
bbc
The Tory Government had to be propped up by DUP MPs to achieve a majority - all it cost was credibility, the DUP not to actually represent the nation they represent (NI voted strongly to Remain), and a £1B bung.

The naive were led by the unscrupulous into the unknown, without benefit of a map or (moral) compass. We'll see, in time, how far into the wilderness they take us all.
08/03/2021 15:56:30 1 6
bbc
The EU want to harm us and those of the BBC Remoaner ilk cannot be trusted.
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08/03/2021 10:23:56 117 36
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Brexit is a disaster of greedy right wingers’ making and has cost us a fortune and our reputation as a decent country. And this bloke tries to blame the EU.
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08/03/2021 10:37:58 23 60
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How much did you lose ?
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08/03/2021 11:03:37 4 26
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Brexit has been great for Britain. cue the vaccine roll out
08/03/2021 16:02:03 2 9
bbc
Brexit will re-make our reputation as an independent democratic country with a global voice. The EU have tried to shaft us all the way through.
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08/03/2021 10:11:51 14 31
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I agree whole heartedly with Lord Frost. They are doing everything they can to disrupt the UK's economy. They are a fine example themselves of how not to operate.
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08/03/2021 10:23:58 14 5
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The U.K. doesn’t need any help to disrupt its economy, it doing a fine job on its own.
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08/03/2021 10:24:07 72 15
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Both sides agreed the arrangement as part of the Brexit withdrawal deal

What the UK - government and populace - doesn't understand is that it is now a 3rd party country, and as such now has to follow the rules, the writing of which it had a part in, that apply to 3rd party countries. Nothing to do with "ill will" or "revenge", the childish epithets being hurled by our infantile government.
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08/03/2021 10:37:33 17 45
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What rules do we have to follow ? Perhaps they will be happy when we ban bottled water because of chemical contents . Then there is the issue on lies told about the cars from Mercedes .
08/03/2021 16:11:42 1 7
bbc
What remainders don't understand is the their beloved EU is a massive and incompetent monstrosity headed by an unelected Commission. Their behaviour is both bullying and infantile.
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08/03/2021 10:24:11 15 4
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20 years of the UK right wing press insulting the EU,20 years of Farage & UKIP insulting the EU,Johnson called the EU a concentration camp and this useless unelected negotiator accuses the EU of "ill will".
He agreed the deal with the EU,but the UK hasn't put the necessary border checks in place despite knowing for a year that they'd have to be there,whose fault is that?
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08/03/2021 10:34:42 2 10
bbc
We have every right to make a comments about the EU . What about the EU ‘s handling of vaccination? Brilliant weren’t they . I can just imagine your comment if it had been the UK acting like the EU .
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08/03/2021 10:13:16 5 20
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Its an ill wind that blows nothing but ill will and its coming from the continent.
45
08/03/2021 10:24:37 5 0
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Which continent?
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08/03/2021 10:47:20 1 0
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North America?
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08/03/2021 10:19:10 4 1
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Have YOU asked the rest of the world? How, when and where?
Oh you didn’t, so it’s just ????
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08/03/2021 10:24:56 0 5
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Yes. Just ask Australia and everyone else that lives outside of Brussels.
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08/03/2021 10:28:19 3 1
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So YOU had asked everyone on the planet except those living in Brussels??????????
Remind me when you asked me personally and the BILLIONS of others, the languages you used and the wording!??
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08/03/2021 10:29:19 3 1
bbc
Why are "Leave" obsessed with Australia?

I think many places in the world have good trade relationships with the EU, from my experience.
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08/03/2021 10:24:58 21 4
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So when the UK breaks the law, we try to avoid the issue and brush it under the carpet. But when someone accuses the EU of ill-will, well that's another matter and one that needs for ardent Brexiter fist shaking.

You have to appreciate the humor behind the double standards and hypocrisy - if we can't keep to laws, why should the EU show any good will?
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08/03/2021 10:30:56 3 13
bbc
As the EU openly state they don't trust the UK and the UK openly does not trust the EU, maybe we should just tear up Protocol (which has not even been ratified by EU yet) and say "OK chaps" it's No Deal and if EU wants border it's up to you.
Pity those in Ireland (North & South) if it gets to that.
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08/03/2021 10:25:09 115 13
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Last year we had the chance the extend the transition period if needed. The fact we’re trying to extend this grace period for Irish Sea checks now, after the transition period ended, implies either the decision not to extend it when we could was wrong, and/or preparation for this eventuality in the previous 4+ years was woeful.
08/03/2021 15:51:53 10 37
bbc
The EU is woeful. Better out than in.
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08/03/2021 10:15:51 8 21
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The Eu has failed in several area Refugees, Emissions (Both Germany), Vaccine approval (Brussels). Brexit was seen as a punishment exercise to stop others leaving, unfortunately both sides have acted like children and now Northern Ireland and Ireland will suffer the consequences. The EU have to realise they are not gods and the UK have to remember the violence that once marred parts of Ireland
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 4 1
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What on earth are you going on about?
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08/03/2021 10:11:50 115 45
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The UK walked out on the EU, lied about the EU, insulted the EU, made new legally binding agreements with the EU and then broke them - and now they want to be treated equally ? They should be grateful the EU wouldn't stoop that low.
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 49 74
bbc
Who put up an Irish border for about an hour without telling the Irish Government, who weaponised a vaccine because of their incompetence, who lied about the AZ vaccine out of spite now can't get their EU citizens to accept it, yet still won't fulfill orders from Australia? The EU. Despicable organisation supported by despicable people.
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08/03/2021 10:28:28 31 7
bbc
Stop lying. They did NOT put up a border. They took as decision that would have put up a border if implemented, realised their mistake within a matter of hours and revoked the decision
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08/03/2021 10:54:37 15 7
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Didn't AZ fail to honour their contract to the EU, so the EU tried to force their hand? The UK insisted that vaccines produced in the UK stayed in the UK.... then the AZ were about to ship vaccines to Australia, but the EU insisted that AZ honour the EU contract 1st... vaccines produced in the EU stay in the EU? Conflict with the EU could have been avoided if we hadn't left. Where's the benefit?
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08/03/2021 11:36:01 4 12
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Thank goodness we are not in anymore.
08/03/2021 13:42:16 1 0
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I'd take them over you any day.
08/03/2021 15:48:11 1 0
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Well we know where we stand - eh quitling.
08/03/2021 15:53:15 1 4
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Completely agree with you. EU is a bad boy and which is worse it is a big bad boy. My strong impression is that for several centuries before this one British Empire tried very successfully to avoid the situation to find itself alone against a big bad boy.
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08/03/2021 10:18:26 44 12
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Which they haven't done yet - deferred ratification. So, in essence the WA stands and the trade deal for the moment rests on goodwi.. um ....
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 20 1
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Er, no.

The EU Parliament's ratification of the trade deal is contingent on the successful implementation of the WA.

Spaffer agreed to give the EU a border down the Irish Sea and also promised to have the requisite infrastructure in place and working in order to get the WA. Thus far he has failed.
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08/03/2021 10:31:22 8 2
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Eaxctly what I meant - the provisions of the WA stands and the rests hangs on "goodwi..." pending compliance
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08/03/2021 10:25:38 8 0
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Oh well, at least everyone involved is acting like mature grown ups.

Of course extending the grace period is not unreasonable in order to iron out any problems, but why have they just done it without consulting the other party involved? Also why was this grace period only originally set for such a small period, surely if this had been properly planned out first they wouldn't need to extend?
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08/03/2021 10:25:39 5 10
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NI is part of UK not Eu.
If NI shops want food on supermarket shelves then uk provides it simple as that.

Should have invoked article 16 to protect uk interests, whereas Eu invoked article 16 as a punishment directed exclusively at uk for Eu incompetence with vaccine acquisition and rollout
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08/03/2021 10:35:48 6 1
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"whereas Eu invoked article 16 as a punishment"

Wasn't it because AZ weren't honouring their contract?

It's funny because the Leavers said Brexit wouldn't result in conflict between us and the EU, dismissing it as hyperbole and project fear....
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08/03/2021 10:26:10 18 3
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Oh look it is a "unelected" bureaucrat.
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08/03/2021 10:46:52 7 0
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Who got into Cabinet by throwing a wobbly "wahhh! I should have that job Bowis, not Gove! "
And Boris, as is traditional, buckles to his 'friend and ally'
#Cronyism'R'Us
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08/03/2021 10:17:48 5 24
bbc
Eu playing games and also still sore at uk for leaving... I agree with the government approach to NI protocol.

Eu is just trying to damage relationships and business between England and NI and also create tension in the Republic with the Nationalists
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08/03/2021 10:26:13 4 1
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The EU is a highly bureaucratic organisation.... it does everything by the book. It applies the agreement to the letter, where our gov makes it up as it goes along. The architects of Leave criticised the EU as being bureaucratic and slow to respond because of it. They wanted us to be "nimble". I don't see why the gov are surprised at how the EU are applying the rules of the agreement.
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08/03/2021 10:14:18 114 18
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Unelected bureaucrat blames EU for UK breaking their agreement.

What government?
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08/03/2021 10:26:18 120 29
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Who needs a competent government when you can use the standard approach to foreign relations that worked for centuries:

"You there! Out of the way. We're British, don't you know."
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08/03/2021 11:24:26 2 20
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Do you not mean Germany because that was the last major power to invade other countries for self gain
08/03/2021 13:40:02 13 1
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It wasn't too long ago that many Brexiteers on this HYS wanted to solve the NI issue by declaring war on Ireland and thinking that all the violence will be in the South of Ireland and not the North. They are absolutely no knowledge of the situation what so ever.

Brexiteers were always dangerous to the well being of our society, but now they are being a real intolerable threat.
08/03/2021 15:49:09 0 8
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What you need is some history lessons.
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08/03/2021 10:26:22 155 26
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We have Taken Back Control for over a year now, so everything that is happening in UK is 100% our reponsibility. This includes NI Protocol, Trade Deal etc. We can no longer blame EU for our woes. We have Taken Back Control. Brexiteers won, we are out, Brexiteers run our Government. They are responsible for the good and the bad they deliver. Do Brexiteers realise that we are now outside EU ???
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08/03/2021 10:30:08 81 5
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It’s the proverbial moment the “barking dog catches the car” innit?
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08/03/2021 11:04:14 1 17
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yeah Vaccine was Britains responsibility. done amazing
08/03/2021 15:44:27 0 8
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Do Remoaners realise that Brexit will greatly benefit this country, and that their beloved EU wish to damage us?
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08/03/2021 10:21:52 4 11
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Peace and the GFA must come first by there being no borders or restrictions between the UK and Ireland.

The EU just don't get it.

People's lives are more important than Brussels politics.
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08/03/2021 10:26:33 6 3
bbc
Maybe the Brexiteers should have thought about that before voting for a process that everyone knew would inevitably lead to borders.
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08/03/2021 10:20:54 14 5
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Not sure what the point of this is, beyond playing to the deluded domestic Brexit faithful.

Beyond the UK, everyone will see through it, particularly in Washington, where Biden will clearly see who is both threatening the NI peace process and his ambition to rebuild the Western Alliance in the face of Russian/Chinese threats.

Again, it is Putin who benefits.
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08/03/2021 10:23:19 2 0
bbc
Frost works for PUTIN?
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08/03/2021 10:23:41 18 3
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Apparently Johnson had a 'great deal' for the UK but it looks like it only works if we ignore the requirements Brexit has placed on the UK's trade with the EU and follow the terms we had pre-Brexit. In other words, Brexit only works if we don't do Brexit!!.
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08/03/2021 10:27:51 2 6
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Isn't that BRINO
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08/03/2021 10:13:59 318 107
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So Frost is blaming the EU for a deal that he brokered? Is the EU at fault for our Government nor being given time to scrutinise the deal? I recall the ERG and Boris lauding it as being a brilliant deal for the UK. Please explain why it's the EU's fault that frost agreed to this. Who elected frost?
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08/03/2021 10:26:41 126 188
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The UK's plan A was to accept the report of the EU's own expert, Lars Karlson, and an electronic border be installed between NI and ROI.

The EU rejected the report of their own expert and insisted on the NI protocol, any problems from here are down to this decision.
Sorry, but I'm sure you then meant to say: ", and then Borris & Co signed the deal and Parliament passed it".

This mess is entirely of the UK's making - don't blame the EU for the fat one's inability to read a document before he signs it!
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08/03/2021 10:43:44 70 17
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Sorry, but I'm sure you then meant to say: ", and then Borris & Co signed the deal and Parliament passed it".

This mess is entirely of the UK's making - don't blame the EU for the our esteemed and highly intelligent PM's inability to read a document before he signs it!
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08/03/2021 10:46:40 64 9
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Ah, that old chestnut.

The 'technology' was untested and no-one could provide a reliable estimate of cost and how long it would take to build and install.

Even Spaffer gave up on that one.
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08/03/2021 10:54:34 46 4
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Plan to accept a solution that doesn't exist. Sounds about right...
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08/03/2021 11:09:44 9 2
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I remember they said the technology to do this was 10-20 years away. Didn't they want a swam of drones permanently airborne or something?!
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08/03/2021 11:53:16 16 0
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There is no possibility of an Electronic Border, because it will not work, the Technology has not been found, also now the Border is smack down the Irish Sea.

Johnson owns this Brexit Crap, we are being stuffed left right and centre for his incompetence and stupidity, it takes me 76 Forms to send One Lamb to the EU , it was 5 when we were members, in one fell swoop Brexit has killed my Farm.
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08/03/2021 12:22:07 5 0
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ANY border whether people and goods were manhandled or photographed was against the spirit and the letter of the GFA.
Just because there aren't any hair-***** customs officers and strip searches at the border doesn't mean it isn't a border.
Or are you saying a speed trap isn't a speed trap?

And anyway - Leavers no like experts, if I recall.
What's changed?
08/03/2021 14:41:16 2 0
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So the UK can just sign anything without any intention of keeping to its words.
08/03/2021 16:15:32 1 0
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The decision to implement the NI protocol was part of a negotiated settlement. That is, both sides agreed it, thus both sides own the agreement.
08/03/2021 17:02:37 3 0
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Any infrastructure; even camera's for an electronic border, goes against the Good Friday Agreement. It is not a solution.
08/03/2021 18:09:13 1 0
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"The UK's plan A was to accept the report of the EU's own expert, Lars Karlson, and an electronic border be installed between NI and ROI."

Which relied on untried and untested systems, that don't yet exist anywhere in the world...

...and wouldn't stop any smuggler who decides to rent a van!
BOF
08/03/2021 18:25:57 1 0
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I am quite surprised that a Scandinavian expert would recommend a virtual border. I recall watching a program on the border between Norway and Sweden and how annoying bureaucratic and time consuming it was for lorry drivers to get over the border. Surely, if it were simple they could have a virtual border there. Norway is in the single market for most purposes.
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08/03/2021 10:26:48 11 5
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Frost could not negotiate a round of drinks in a pub

waving the white flag is all he has proven fit for

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08/03/2021 10:26:51 2 6
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Threaten them with Unification and auto Arlene in the EU Parliament
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08/03/2021 10:39:55 2 0
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I think they will push for Unification at some point, because it is one less problem for them and more consumers in the Single Market
If there was a vote, how do you think it would go?
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08/03/2021 10:23:41 18 3
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Apparently Johnson had a 'great deal' for the UK but it looks like it only works if we ignore the requirements Brexit has placed on the UK's trade with the EU and follow the terms we had pre-Brexit. In other words, Brexit only works if we don't do Brexit!!.
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08/03/2021 10:27:51 2 6
bbc
Isn't that BRINO
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08/03/2021 10:32:25 5 3
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No, because we don't get any of the other benefits.... just trade that suits business and the financial markets and we'll be lucky if any of it filters down to the majority of us. We still lose all the personal rights we once had.
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08/03/2021 10:43:55 7 0
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Well no, because we would have access to the Single Market with BRINO
“Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market.” (Hannan, Leave, before the vote)
"Only a madman would leave the Single Market" (Patterson, Leave, before the vote)
Which makes Leave voters 'mad nobodies' really
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08/03/2021 10:28:15 8 11
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On the bright side, the UK is not on the hook for the 100's of billions being handed out to southern Europe.
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08/03/2021 10:38:09 6 0
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Cameron negotiated that we would not be liable for any Eurozone bailout
Do keep up
08/03/2021 14:10:54 0 0
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What’s a billion and what do you do with it?
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08/03/2021 10:24:56 0 5
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Yes. Just ask Australia and everyone else that lives outside of Brussels.
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08/03/2021 10:28:19 3 1
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So YOU had asked everyone on the planet except those living in Brussels??????????
Remind me when you asked me personally and the BILLIONS of others, the languages you used and the wording!??
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 49 74
bbc
Who put up an Irish border for about an hour without telling the Irish Government, who weaponised a vaccine because of their incompetence, who lied about the AZ vaccine out of spite now can't get their EU citizens to accept it, yet still won't fulfill orders from Australia? The EU. Despicable organisation supported by despicable people.
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08/03/2021 10:28:28 31 7
bbc
Stop lying. They did NOT put up a border. They took as decision that would have put up a border if implemented, realised their mistake within a matter of hours and revoked the decision
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08/03/2021 10:19:21 14 1
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We have left, we are a third country, we need to get on with it.
And I am saying that as someone who voted leave.
It is a bad deal for the UK but it is what we are stuck with for now.
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08/03/2021 10:28:57 10 6
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No, we need to rejoin, if only EFTA.
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08/03/2021 12:31:24 0 0
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Have no choice at the moment, just have to get on with it. Did not say be happy with it or agree with it.
For those that want to change the situation, first call is your MP and their opposite numbers to see their stance on the future and then vote accordingly.
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MVS
08/03/2021 10:13:16 5 20
bbc
Its an ill wind that blows nothing but ill will and its coming from the continent.
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08/03/2021 10:25:56 2 1
bbc
It’s also coming from inside the UK

The about half of us who are appalled by the racism of the other half have not gone away and we are no less angry

Anything the EU or anyone else does to harm England and Wales is aces with us
08/03/2021 13:18:27 0 0
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What racism do you refer to bigmowlay? Racism of course should be condemned, if fact any such bigotry should be. So why do you show such bigotry against anyone who voted to leave the EU? Why do you think it is OK to throw unfounded allegations at 17.4m folk? Why do you think wanting to leave a political organisation is racism? Would someone be racist if they don't like Labour or the Tories?
71
08/03/2021 10:27:36 5 15
bbc
The deal the uk has was the only deal the eu were offering.
It was this or no deal.
The eu still have not ratified the deal officially.

So is this deal perfect , no.
Is it a good deal, no.
Is it better than no deal. Yes.

Signed the deal.
Get out
Go thro diplomacy then trigger art 16.
Over next 5 years take eu fishing quotas down as much and as quickly as possible.
All legal.
It takes time.
96
08/03/2021 10:32:44 5 1
bbc
"The deal the uk has was the only deal the eu were offering.
It was this or no deal."

It was the deal Boris renegotiated, it was Boris that wanted regulatory divergence in GB and therefore creating an Irish Sea border.
128
08/03/2021 10:37:21 1 0
bbc
"The deal the uk has was the only deal the eu were offering."

So how come Boris says he "negotiated it"?
Why send Frostie, Unelected-Bureaucrat-now-in-Cabinet, to make "decisions on our behalf" at all?
Whatever happened to "We hold all the cards"?
"They need us more than we need them"?
You lot are as bad as the unions in the 1970s
Actually you WERE the unions the 1970s
No wonder it's a mess
3
08/03/2021 10:12:56 109 35
bbc
This is all going down just as us Remainers said it would. Project Here. You won, suck it up, get over it, end of...
72
08/03/2021 10:29:10 43 92
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All this shows is how the EU are buried in their own bureaucracy to the extent they are happy for one of their own members and their neighbour to suffer shortages of food etc. for no good reason. These issue will be resolved but the underlying self serving nature of the EU Commission will never go away. The EU is a busted flush and is slowly falling apart, they can't even vaccinate their people
168
08/03/2021 10:42:25 28 1
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No shortages in the Republic. They've already opened new ferry links directly with the EU.

See the UK govts attempts to allow EU foods into the UK without border checks just to keep the supplies coming in. So, full containers coming in with no checks. Empty containers going out to avoid checks.

We are a third country that we made the rules for. Stop whinging. It's what you wanted.
471
08/03/2021 11:25:57 21 2
bbc
'The EU is a busted flush and is slowly falling apart, they can't even vaccinate their people'

You are aware that the EU is comprised of 27 independent, sovereign countries, aren't you?
08/03/2021 13:17:57 15 0
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Ireland has already been working to bypass the UK. It is quicker and much cheaper for them to go directly to France by sea rather then messing around with checks in NI ports and then more checks at Dover/Calais. Despite what you claim, Ireland is fine.

Also the only ones mentioning that the "EU is falling apart" is that of the Brexiteers. Same nonsensical message for 40 years. "Any day now!"
08/03/2021 13:49:50 13 0
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Leavers tell us that they knew what they voted for. You got what you wanted, so man up and accept it.
08/03/2021 15:45:17 0 1
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Have been listening to such kind of comments for substantial number of years. The cruel truth is that now EU is a formation which tries hard to achieve higher level of consolidation and UK put itself in a very good position to be used from EU federalist as an enemy trying to undermine EU. The so called vaccine war can be regarded as well as a materialisation of the idea that EU has united fists.
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08/03/2021 10:18:35 9 17
bbc
Very British, very understated & very polite. The EU on Jan 1st, as many businesses point out, started a guerrilla trade war with us, one sided so far. Their unbelievable stupidity trashing the NI Protocol over an EU/Astrazeneca spat stirred up NI, the EU then walked away & left the UK to pick up the pieces. They've not ratified the deal, walk away & fight back. They are not friends
73
08/03/2021 10:29:10 4 0
bbc
Yes a "Guerrilla war"...
Their weapons? All the things that we were told would come into affect from the first of January. But were hand waved because we absolutely had to have that "oven ready deal" agreed so our PM could save face...

Yes the EU were gits over the Vaccine, but they didnt go through with it did they?
As for picking up the pieces? We broke it, The NI situation is of OUR making.
74
08/03/2021 10:29:18 10 1
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It's like listening to a teenager having a tantrum
46
08/03/2021 10:24:56 0 5
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Yes. Just ask Australia and everyone else that lives outside of Brussels.
75
08/03/2021 10:29:19 3 1
bbc
Why are "Leave" obsessed with Australia?

I think many places in the world have good trade relationships with the EU, from my experience.
76
08/03/2021 10:29:22 0 1
bbc
Political shennannigans, mins is bigger than yours schoolboy politics, both sides making capital by agreeing to disagree for mutual benefit, no wonder everyone is smiling when the go into further discussions.
All things can be resolved but you need a willingness on both sisdes to achieve an outcome, something which appears to be missing, change the negotiators.
97
08/03/2021 10:32:48 7 0
bbc
We there’s not disputing the fact that we, the Uk, have the biggest dicks in charge.
77
08/03/2021 10:29:36 25 4
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Its ill-will to threaten to break international law as Frosts fat liar controller wanted to do last year. Frost is just another bully diplomat hired to be 'tough'. Funny how as soon as anything goes awry with Brexit, the billionaire run tabloids scream its the EU fault.
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08/03/2021 10:22:23 4 5
bbc
When will Brexiteers understand?

The Europeans will only be our friends when we are paying them, sharing our fishing waters is clearly not enough.

We should resume payments and accept their laws, then friendship can resume
78
08/03/2021 10:29:40 2 1
bbc
What you suggest isn't friendship..
3
08/03/2021 10:12:56 109 35
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This is all going down just as us Remainers said it would. Project Here. You won, suck it up, get over it, end of...
79
08/03/2021 10:30:00 7 28
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The EU is the one weaponising vaccines as they did PPE last spring, they are refusing to rafity the deal, they broke the NI protocol and caused the Irish issue.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
57
08/03/2021 10:26:22 155 26
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We have Taken Back Control for over a year now, so everything that is happening in UK is 100% our reponsibility. This includes NI Protocol, Trade Deal etc. We can no longer blame EU for our woes. We have Taken Back Control. Brexiteers won, we are out, Brexiteers run our Government. They are responsible for the good and the bad they deliver. Do Brexiteers realise that we are now outside EU ???
80
08/03/2021 10:30:08 81 5
bbc
It’s the proverbial moment the “barking dog catches the car” innit?
184
08/03/2021 10:44:25 13 1
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Haha, used to live rural and every day passed a farm where a ferocious German Shepherd would run off the drive in a frenzy of snarling at my car. One morning he ran out onto the road. I stopped 50 feet away. He stopped. I started reversing very slowly. He turned tail and fled.
08/03/2021 15:45:14 0 5
bbc
Eh? Sounds like a proverbial moment of Remoaner rubbish.
81
08/03/2021 10:30:23 21 3
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well77

"I agree whole heartedly with Lord Frost. They are doing everything they can to disrupt the UK's economy."

How? The EU has not changed or violated any of the rules in the agreement so far. The disruptions and problems are simply the effects of our bad Brexit deal, why do you blame the EU for that? They didn't want us to leave, we CHOSE to leave. Blame yourself!
82
08/03/2021 10:30:27 13 2
bbc
The Evil Tories lied to the EU about the NI arrangements and are now going back on their word.

As usual.

That is why the EU is taking legal action.

I think the EU should simply retaliate via the Dover Calais border.

Punish the people who vote for the English Tory liars not their NI pawns.

It is the only way they will listen.
83
08/03/2021 10:30:29 39 4
bbc
I'm old enough to remember when Boris lied "There will be no border down the Irish Sea - over my dead body".

He clearly U-turned when faced with the reality of his undeliverable Brexit promises.
08/03/2021 19:09:13 1 2
bbc
You know that we were trapped with May's Brino deal and by a dismal Parliament intent on overturning the Referendum vote. But you prefer to distort reality.
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08/03/2021 10:18:35 9 17
bbc
Very British, very understated & very polite. The EU on Jan 1st, as many businesses point out, started a guerrilla trade war with us, one sided so far. Their unbelievable stupidity trashing the NI Protocol over an EU/Astrazeneca spat stirred up NI, the EU then walked away & left the UK to pick up the pieces. They've not ratified the deal, walk away & fight back. They are not friends
84
08/03/2021 10:30:32 3 1
bbc
You may see it that way, but the Rest of the World doesn't.

The EU immediately backtracked and apologised for it's error, when will our Regime admit it's mistakes over the crappy WA it came up with and can't implement.

Who do you think Biden is going to blame for the threat to the peace process and further destabilisation of his aim to rebuild the Western Alliance?
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08/03/2021 10:17:10 133 39
bbc
This wouldn’t have been an issue but the U.K. decided to leave and create all the problems for itself.
Many more to come.
08/03/2021 13:49:07 9 1
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The real blunder was you trying to link a 2 month article that shows the EU actually being responsible for and understanding their actions. Though it is obvious you linked it hoping for the opposite effect. It is also old news and in the past.

Here is some more old news:
https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/01/ireland-to-bypass-post-brexit-britain-with-more-direct-sea-routes-to-europe
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08/03/2021 10:22:39 4 14
bbc
The EU are the ones who are imposing borders. Clearly.
86
08/03/2021 10:30:47 3 1
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Please do explain clearly and concisely how.
25
08/03/2021 10:19:24 24 3
bbc
Did anyone bother reading the agreement that they signed?
You can't "wing it" on international policy, even if they think they can get away with it domestically.
87
08/03/2021 10:30:52 1 4
bbc
The europeans haven't yet, the translator hasn't finished
47
08/03/2021 10:24:58 21 4
bbc
So when the UK breaks the law, we try to avoid the issue and brush it under the carpet. But when someone accuses the EU of ill-will, well that's another matter and one that needs for ardent Brexiter fist shaking.

You have to appreciate the humor behind the double standards and hypocrisy - if we can't keep to laws, why should the EU show any good will?
88
08/03/2021 10:30:56 3 13
bbc
As the EU openly state they don't trust the UK and the UK openly does not trust the EU, maybe we should just tear up Protocol (which has not even been ratified by EU yet) and say "OK chaps" it's No Deal and if EU wants border it's up to you.
Pity those in Ireland (North & South) if it gets to that.
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jon
08/03/2021 10:31:18 1 11
bbc
The EU needs to engage constructively within the Joint Committee in order to respect the GFA. The unilateral triggering of article 16 has destroyed trust.
124
08/03/2021 10:33:22 0 2
bbc
1912 parliament voted for the Irish Home Rule Bill it was never implemented elements of the Unionist folk obtained weapons from Germany and threatened to use them in defiance of the act parliament backed down
no change then
08/03/2021 14:12:10 0 0
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Wow, naive or what.
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08/03/2021 10:25:26 20 1
bbc
Er, no.

The EU Parliament's ratification of the trade deal is contingent on the successful implementation of the WA.

Spaffer agreed to give the EU a border down the Irish Sea and also promised to have the requisite infrastructure in place and working in order to get the WA. Thus far he has failed.
90
08/03/2021 10:31:22 8 2
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Eaxctly what I meant - the provisions of the WA stands and the rests hangs on "goodwi..." pending compliance
172
08/03/2021 10:43:36 15 1
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Not sure the 'goodwill' comes into it.

You sign a deal, you comply with it.
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08/03/2021 10:18:32 182 39
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Sounds like Frosty is throwing his toys out of the pram and trying to blame the EU because this deal is turning out so bad for UK businesses. Should of allowed more time for the deal to be scrutinised then. The Eton buffoon said it was a “oven ready”deal - therefore these problems must have been sorted out. Unless Bozo was lying.
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08/03/2021 10:31:37 80 140
bbc
The EU are the ones who refuse to ratify the agreement and started a trade and vaccine war, but nice attempt at deflection

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/eus-vaccine-blunder-reopens-brexit-battle-over-irish-border
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08/03/2021 10:35:24 44 7
bbc
The EU threatened to invoke Article 16, but never did. Check the facts. Bozo has got form breaking the law: Johnson's suspension of parliament unlawful, supreme court rules. ??
319
08/03/2021 11:02:04 9 32
bbc
The woke remainers are still angry weve left .. great start to the day that its guna ruin their day
945
08/03/2021 12:29:38 21 2
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You are the one trying to deflect the blame. Trying to link a 2 month old article, which doesn't even support your viewpoint (showing that you didn't read it!), to something that the EU never carried out after understanding the consequences of it... Completely different to what the UK is doing here, which is breaking a law abiding international agreement.

God, Brexiteers really are this thick!
08/03/2021 15:43:47 1 0
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LOL - quitter at it's 'best'.
08/03/2021 16:05:53 1 0
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Remember the bill the Govt tried to put through the commons, permanently breaking article 16 and international law. Frost has forgotten who started the ill-feeling, or more likely is just plain lying.
08/03/2021 17:21:02 0 0
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Curious imagination and still spitting feathers.
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08/03/2021 10:31:45 4 18
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He is absolutely correct. The EU are set on punishing us as much as possible. We need to play them at their own game. I have cancelled 2 new German cars and some Italian machinery. Have decided to buy British and keep the cash within the country/support British jobs. French wine & cheese is off our menu too.
114
08/03/2021 10:35:24 4 3
bbc
ha ha ha ha ha your another one that believes in a lying government !!
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bcl
08/03/2021 10:36:08 4 0
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Think we're punishing ourselves, and not sure why you bought German cars in the past if you suddenly want to support British jobs.
133
08/03/2021 10:38:00 4 0
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You -really- expect the EU to help us, after we told them where to go?

You aren't living up to your user name, are you...
148
08/03/2021 10:39:29 5 0
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"set on punishing us"
How utterly puerile and insecure are YOU?
All the EU is doing is working to the rules the Johnson signed up to.
Just because Kwitters rarely read the rules, and when they do they don't understand them ??
93
08/03/2021 10:31:50 16 3
bbc
Tories appear to want the spirit of the law followed but that is not how international law works
If the Tories wanted these loopholes they should of written them into the letter of the law
113
08/03/2021 10:35:24 0 5
bbc
What did the law state about planned use of Article 16 against a sovereign nation ?
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08/03/2021 10:14:13 347 111
bbc
So the unelected beaurocrat negotiates a particularly bad deal then gets a new job post Brexit to put right the holes in his earlier (pre Brexit) poor deal and then blames the EU for something he negotiated (or am I missing something)
94
08/03/2021 10:31:54 70 8
bbc
I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Johnson assured us we have a "fantastic" deal, and what about his personal or professional history would give you any reason to doubt his word or integrity? When has he ever put his personal progression about the needs of anyone else?
140
08/03/2021 10:37:28 36 1
bbc
You made me laugh
65
08/03/2021 10:27:51 2 6
bbc
Isn't that BRINO
95
08/03/2021 10:32:25 5 3
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No, because we don't get any of the other benefits.... just trade that suits business and the financial markets and we'll be lucky if any of it filters down to the majority of us. We still lose all the personal rights we once had.
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08/03/2021 10:27:36 5 15
bbc
The deal the uk has was the only deal the eu were offering.
It was this or no deal.
The eu still have not ratified the deal officially.

So is this deal perfect , no.
Is it a good deal, no.
Is it better than no deal. Yes.

Signed the deal.
Get out
Go thro diplomacy then trigger art 16.
Over next 5 years take eu fishing quotas down as much and as quickly as possible.
All legal.
It takes time.
96
08/03/2021 10:32:44 5 1
bbc
"The deal the uk has was the only deal the eu were offering.
It was this or no deal."

It was the deal Boris renegotiated, it was Boris that wanted regulatory divergence in GB and therefore creating an Irish Sea border.
76
08/03/2021 10:29:22 0 1
bbc
Political shennannigans, mins is bigger than yours schoolboy politics, both sides making capital by agreeing to disagree for mutual benefit, no wonder everyone is smiling when the go into further discussions.
All things can be resolved but you need a willingness on both sisdes to achieve an outcome, something which appears to be missing, change the negotiators.
97
08/03/2021 10:32:48 7 0
bbc
We there’s not disputing the fact that we, the Uk, have the biggest dicks in charge.
98
08/03/2021 10:32:50 2 10
bbc
NO Borders on the Island of Ireland they say? fully endorsed by the EU. Then they insist on a Border on the ports to protect their regime. All whilst the citizens of N.Ire suffer from shortages as to what they can purchase in the shops etc. Nothing. stopping them from halting what they don't want to contaminate on their own claimed part of the Island if they think its a threat
127
08/03/2021 10:37:14 9 2
bbc
When will Brexiteers finally understand that it is not the EU that have created a border. Voting to leave the EU and work to a different set of customs regulations created the border.

Brexiteers did this. Not the EU.
37
08/03/2021 10:22:50 12 4
bbc
What kind to total Idiot lets the EU catch 85% of fish in UK Water and does not ask for reciprocal landing rights for the UK Miserable 15%

and before you start the EU is now fishing in a third countries waters .

Frost you are a total incompetent fool just like your puppet master Boris the DIM
99
08/03/2021 10:29:52 9 1
bbc
What are you squealing about?! You knew what you voted for! You were warned, but you called it 'Project Fear' and went ahead and voted anyway. You got exactly what you knew you voted for, you won, get over it!
36
08/03/2021 10:22:39 4 14
bbc
The EU are the ones who are imposing borders. Clearly.
100
08/03/2021 10:31:03 5 1
bbc
The borders HAVE to be imposed, that was the problem all along! Why can't you quitlings see it?