'India mirror Kohli in their dominance'
07/03/2021 | sport | cricket | 672
Virat Kohli's personality is driving India towards World Test Championship glory - and their 'final frontier' in England, writes Suresh Menon.
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07/03/2021 09:00:28 14 5
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It won’t though, because their spinners won’t be anywhere near as effective and their batsmen can’t play the swinging ball. Our only worry is our batsmen, but surely they can’t as bad in hime conditions.
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07/03/2021 09:27:18 10 2
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True, however I’m not sure how good our batsmen really are against quality pace bowlers. India seem to have a better group of fast bowlers this time round that could rival ours. We actually lost a couple of wickets to pace in this last test on a pitch that you wouldn’t say offered a lot to pace bowlers. It will definitely come down to which sides batting unit can adapt better. Look forward to it!
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Glad you said 'swinging ball' and didn't come up with the lazy 'Greentops' rubbish that a lot of people spout on here.
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07/03/2021 11:11:46 1 0
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That depends upon how much match practice they are allowed before the big games. Confidence goes a long way these days.
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07/03/2021 13:44:28 4 0
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Even though India won 3-1, England fans can point to specific moments in the 3rd and 4th tests where they were very close only for Pant, Ash, Axar and Sundar to seize those important moments. That is exactly what happened to India in England. Scoreline read 4-1 but except Lords, there were moments in every match that were seized by crucial contributions with the bat(not even ball)by Curran/Woakes.
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Tom
07/03/2021 14:54:54 2 0
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From what I remember - Last tour to England, the top 6 fabled English bat were back in the hut without troubling the scorer too much and were saved blushes due to Sam Curran on couple of occasions. hmmm hmmm :)
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They’ve struggled for years now but who knows
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07/03/2021 09:04:53 7 3
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First of All well done India on the Series win.

Yes Kohli is one of a kind and a strong character too of which you saw playing to the Crowd and Media too at times.

As many say he is Brand and would India be mad to release him of his Captaincy.

On another note did not take long for the Media to sharpen the knives and stick into England and how sad.

Cricket is the Winner .
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07/03/2021 10:38:25 5 0
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To be fair, Duncan, a lot of English fans will be disappointed, and understandably so, about the way England caved in after a great performance in the first test. I wish I could be more positive, but I think we could all reasonably forsee the way things were going after defeat in the Second Test.
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07/03/2021 09:05:59 10 5
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Congratulations India - team full of talent, youth and experience blend is perfect and Kohli brings amazing energy and belief. Must be a fantastic side to keep KL Rahul out.
England problems remain in top 3, Dan Lawrence and Jack Leach should now join the backbone of the side along with Anderson, Broad, Stokes and Root plenty of other positions to play for.
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Plus Woakes
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07/03/2021 13:33:51 1 0
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Question marks over Broad and Stokes as players and Root as captain.
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07/03/2021 09:07:46 5 4
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Cricket is a game of individual performances built on skill, adapting to conditions and confidence. Whoever thought of applying a rotation policy for a touring side got it very very wrong. The winning side in Sri Lanka should not have been changed.
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07/03/2021 10:36:57 2 0
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International cricket is clearly, mentally very testing and may be unique in the way it examines players psyche. Add in the challenges of life “in a bubble” and, to me at least, I can see very good reasons for the rotation policy. Having spent much time abroad due to work, I can empathise with the players who cannot unwind in familiar environment of home with their family. 24/7 at work anyone?
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07/03/2021 09:08:02 12 1
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He leads an exciting and energetic group of players. Depth of batting and bowling is impressive, while Pant has improved markedly over the last six months. The real test will come later this year in England. Only then, can this team’s greatness be judged.
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07/03/2021 09:12:25 7 0
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Real Test is to keep winning and being at the Top and adapting to what ever is thrown at them .

It was proves in Australia and maybe the 1st Test loss was the wake up call.

Now Kohli life has changed in personal ways too of being a father will have a varied out look.

India team have many talented players and it's how they are utilised in the Team.
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You mean defeating the current England team 3-1 doesn't require greatness?

Okay, I think that says it.
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Which team?
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07/03/2021 09:11:04 7 17
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What a spineless effort by England, wouldn’t have happened if Eoin Morgan was at the helm, root out! No backbone, rubbish outfit!
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07/03/2021 09:38:13 10 0
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Yeah, replace a red ball specialist with a white ball one. For a red ball match. Makes a lot of sense.
Have you thought of applying for a post with the ECB?
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07/03/2021 09:51:52 7 0
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So you want a player who cannot play short pitched bowling and has a test average of 30 and a first class average of 33 to not only play test cricket but to also lead the team lol
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07/03/2021 09:11:06 125 45
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Most neutrals will be rooting for NZ to win the Test Championship. A country of 4.8 million verses 1.3 billion. Hopefully, pitch and weather conditions will enable a five day Test for spectators to enjoy rather than be short-changed with a two or three day result. They should have played best of three of course and ICC need to take Test cricket more seriously but don't hold your breath.
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07/03/2021 09:29:15 55 11
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I think NZ will edge it. It should be best of 3 without a doubt.
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07/03/2021 09:41:27 11 5
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Agree with you neutrals will probably support NZ but it will be the atmosphere at the ground that matters most where the Indians, given their raucous support, will buy up all the tickets and it will be like a home game for them
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07/03/2021 11:01:39 16 17
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You are right, 99% neutrals will be supporting to NZ.

I do want to say there is little value in mentioning India's 1.3bn population, as 90% of that population will be living in severe poverty therefore have zero chance of effecting cricket numbers. Of the remaining 10%, probably about 1% have a genuine chance of ever making it professionally due priorities.
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07/03/2021 11:05:28 12 6
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That population whinge is so petty, smells almost Oz.

Never mind, England could have been in the final if they had taken test cricket a little bit seriously. Rather than putting all their eggs in the one 20-20 basket. Remember, in the past, Boycott-Gower-Gooch-Gatting.

Gone are theose days, alas!
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07/03/2021 11:17:38 15 3
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Perhaps England and Aus fans would prefer NZ to make themselves feel better about having been spanked by India??
If they are 'neutrals' they would not be cheering for any but a good contest. Read your own bias - does not make sense.
Only reason NZ will be supported by non kiwis and Indians will have to be prejudice. After all this Indian team are talented hard working blokes not cheaters or brats. So why on earth would any so called 'neutrals' not expect a fair contest and support a contest than a team?
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07/03/2021 12:01:27 4 2
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Most neutrals will also be hoping for Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Fiji, Samoa to win the Rugby World Cup. All have comparable populations to NZ, with England denied by bad decisions and over hyped by the Media.
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07/03/2021 12:29:23 3 0
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Test Championship a complete waste of time in the current format, especially during the last Covid affected 12 months.
Best two Test teams in the final, yes. Just look at the rankings.
But one match, in England, to decide it - ridiculous.
Make the final home & away for the benefit of the supporters (when allowed) or just give an annual prize to the team top of the rankings each year ... ?
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07/03/2021 12:39:13 1 0
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Every neutral - it's Man United versus Accrington Stanley
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07/03/2021 13:06:30 2 7
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Yes. A proper test pitch. Not the junk that India served up! I reckon my bedroom carpet is a better test pitch than theirs!
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07/03/2021 13:08:28 7 4
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England fan who's seen his team thrashed by India, claims most people won't support India. Hmmm... where could that opinion be coming from? :-)
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07/03/2021 13:36:34 3 0
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it's 11 v 11 on the field. Sure India has more resources available as a whole but NZ are an established Cricket nation and will also have played 2 test matches v Eng before the final even happens.

should be similar conditions to what the Newzealanders are use to (they did beat England in 2019 and i think drew in England) so i don't see how population numbers are relevant here?
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07/03/2021 14:53:59 0 0
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After an easy victory over a diabolical English side, NZ will be a much tougher test. India still have what it takes to win it though.
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07/03/2021 15:08:34 1 2
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Absolutely correct.the way the Kiwis behaved after losing the world cup was exemplary.in contrast the constant and noises from the ridiculous indian close fielders really is pointless and must distract the mind from concentrating.i know everyone does it but india are world champions in that already.
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07/03/2021 15:16:29 5 0
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Why would 'neutrals' support NZ if they are neutrals? Are they not supposed to enjoy the game and may the best on the day win?
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07/03/2021 17:06:51 2 0
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Going by the predictions of Michael Vaughan, Kevin Pieterson it doesn't look like fans of England cricket are good at predictions.
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I'd hazard a guess that the pitch won't be one prepared specifically to suit India's spinners.
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07/03/2021 09:11:56 22 5
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The attitude towards cricket & the attitude of cricketers both have changed. India has been lucky to get 3 great captains in a row & are now a force similar to the great Australian side of the 2000s. IPL has brought money, exposure & confidence to these players who aren’t afraid of taking on the world. Pant’s reverse sweep of Anderson is, but an example of that.
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07/03/2021 10:37:36 21 5
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sorry mate you cant compare that aussie team to this indian one yet . this indian one has to win every where in the world on numerous occasions and 3 or 4 world cups on the trott to compare with that great aussie one.
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07/03/2021 12:29:37 4 0
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Pant was simply amazing 1 cheeky chappy!! Even made Jimmy smile ??
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07/03/2021 12:52:30 5 0
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Yeah, let's not get carried away. India are a good side, but not comparable yet. & "innings of the series", and "shot of the decade" (in 2021)? Nothing wrong with a bit of hyperbole, but cricket has fine margins. Pant had an "umpires call" go his way and the reverse sweep looked, to be edged over the top of slips. So, great fun and huge talent, but I'll wait & see how the next 10 years go.
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07/03/2021 09:08:02 12 1
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He leads an exciting and energetic group of players. Depth of batting and bowling is impressive, while Pant has improved markedly over the last six months. The real test will come later this year in England. Only then, can this team’s greatness be judged.
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07/03/2021 09:12:25 7 0
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Real Test is to keep winning and being at the Top and adapting to what ever is thrown at them .

It was proves in Australia and maybe the 1st Test loss was the wake up call.

Now Kohli life has changed in personal ways too of being a father will have a varied out look.

India team have many talented players and it's how they are utilised in the Team.
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08/03/2021 00:39:57 0 0
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The squad you mean considering their success in Australia
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07/03/2021 09:12:46 24 4
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Looking forward to seeing how Kohli leads his charges on England’s green and pleasant pitches this summer - if they win fair enough, but alas I predict more of the same pattern of home advantage dominating test series outcomes.
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07/03/2021 10:59:00 8 15
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you mean lawns!
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07/03/2021 11:06:03 7 1
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Remember that we usually give the opposition a chance by having warm-up games and practice matches against the counties. It is only England who don't need such games abroad and then wonder why it all goes wrong.
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07/03/2021 11:08:07 5 4
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Batting tracks that Wimbledon would be proud of manicuring!
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07/03/2021 12:05:12 3 10
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England v India this summer will be akin to watching Sheffield Utd trying to go toe to toe with Man City. Prepare whatever pitch you like. 5-0 India.
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07/03/2021 09:21:07 2 8
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England preparing total green tops when India visit could prove to be counterproductive. Actually might help the visiting Indians this time.
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07/03/2021 09:33:02 2 1
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Bumrah will be delighted. Not to mention Sharma.
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07/03/2021 13:59:51 0 0
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Completely agree. Eng should prepare batting tracks with some help for the seamers. Eng can field lots of seam all rounders. Because it is Eng, Ind will be forced to use more fast bowlers (who cannot bat) and fewer of the spin all rounders(one of Ash/Jaddu/Sundar) and that is where the balance changes. Eng’s problem in Ind with only Mo as the genuine spin allrounder will be Ind’s problem in Eng.
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07/03/2021 09:00:28 14 5
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It won’t though, because their spinners won’t be anywhere near as effective and their batsmen can’t play the swinging ball. Our only worry is our batsmen, but surely they can’t as bad in hime conditions.
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07/03/2021 09:27:18 10 2
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True, however I’m not sure how good our batsmen really are against quality pace bowlers. India seem to have a better group of fast bowlers this time round that could rival ours. We actually lost a couple of wickets to pace in this last test on a pitch that you wouldn’t say offered a lot to pace bowlers. It will definitely come down to which sides batting unit can adapt better. Look forward to it!
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07/03/2021 10:27:17 2 0
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India's seamers didn't match England's last time they came here; but it will be interesting to see how someone like Siraj gets on in conditions that should help him. England need to put faith in Wood, S Curran and Stone this summer.
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07/03/2021 10:30:43 4 2
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apart from siraj the indian attack is the same as last time , when they were thrashed 4-1
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07/03/2021 11:26:57 0 0
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Anderson and Stokes both took wickets in the 4th. Test
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Fact is their top 6 or so averages are better than England’s
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07/03/2021 09:27:54 14 1
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The 3 senior batters all failed for India. Yet Ashwin, Axar, Sundar and Pant were all great in the last 3 matches. Axar and Sundar have had dream starts.

Not so sure India will be so good in England if Kohli, Pujara and Rahane fail again.

But Ashwin is still excellent outside India and Axar has his best figures when playing for Durham.

Looking forward to a good series.
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07/03/2021 10:40:21 7 0
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if you look back to last tour india only played one spinner most matches even ashwin was dropped during the tour
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07/03/2021 14:09:21 3 0
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Ashwin's strike rate and bowling average are not great outside the sub-continent, with the exception of the Caribbean.
He has struggled in England, Australia and South Africa and never managed a 5 wicket haul in any of those 3 countries (or NZ, but only 1 test there).
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I think Rohit performed well did he not?
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07/03/2021 09:11:06 125 45
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Most neutrals will be rooting for NZ to win the Test Championship. A country of 4.8 million verses 1.3 billion. Hopefully, pitch and weather conditions will enable a five day Test for spectators to enjoy rather than be short-changed with a two or three day result. They should have played best of three of course and ICC need to take Test cricket more seriously but don't hold your breath.
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07/03/2021 09:29:15 55 11
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I think NZ will edge it. It should be best of 3 without a doubt.
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07/03/2021 09:30:21 8 1
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I’m looking forward to the series this summer. India have been battered in their previous 3 tours here but look to have a much better pace bowling unit this time round. It’s whether their batting can click as a unit and put some big runs on the board. Last time out they lost 2 tests chasing quite modest totals. The opener Gill looks suspect against the moving ball.
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07/03/2021 10:41:24 4 1
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same attack as last time apart from siraj who prob wont be first choice
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07/03/2021 14:28:33 0 0
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Battered? The margin of defeats in two tests were only 30 & 60 runs
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07/03/2021 14:58:38 0 0
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The modest total that England put up was due to their lower middle order, else the series scoreline would have been different ;)
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07/03/2021 15:19:52 0 0
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battered? did you watch the same set of tests we all watched last time around? 4-1 yes but two of those tests difference was Sam Curran's innings..maybe you need to revisit what happened properly...
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07/03/2021 09:31:21 122 13
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I have no issue at all with Kohli, he led his team well and all this not walking rubbish, I think he was just stunned.
Plus he was very sporting in 1st Test - which England won remember - helping Root with cramp and congratulating him on 200.
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Compared to Warner, Smith and company he is an angel.
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07/03/2021 09:42:17 12 6
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Steve. An educated cricket man.
He got bowled and there was a delay before it hit the wicket. Brilliant ball which lost its pace after beating the bat and hence he wanted to check. Well spotted.
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07/03/2021 09:48:49 13 29
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He is a moody little girl when things go against him and tries everything to get his own way. His behaviour in New Zealand was a disgrace and getting a good hiding might have had something to do with that. The New Zealanders will have noted that and he won't get away with throwing a hissy fit as he won't be in his own backyard. Would love to see the Kiwi's beat India and think they will.
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07/03/2021 10:47:11 21 7
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Kohli is combative, not unsporting.
Nothing wrong with that - all winners are combative to some degree.
It is those who are criticizing him here who are unsporting.

He seems an engaging personality - frequently smiling.
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07/03/2021 13:16:03 10 2
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I couldn't stop laughing when Moeen bowled him and left him in an instant state of shock. :-)
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07/03/2021 17:21:22 6 0
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I think Kohli gets a far worse press than he deserves. In all the press conferences and interviews I've seen, he's been straightforward, intelligent, engaged and shown a complete absence of the abrasive ego that some people attribute to him.
He can be combative on the pitch - but international sport is supposed to be the best, right?
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07/03/2021 09:21:07 2 8
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England preparing total green tops when India visit could prove to be counterproductive. Actually might help the visiting Indians this time.
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07/03/2021 09:33:02 2 1
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Bumrah will be delighted. Not to mention Sharma.
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 1 0
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Need pitches with zero spin - not a millimetre
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07/03/2021 10:38:35 2 0
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didnt help last time did it 4-1
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07/03/2021 09:31:21 122 13
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I have no issue at all with Kohli, he led his team well and all this not walking rubbish, I think he was just stunned.
Plus he was very sporting in 1st Test - which England won remember - helping Root with cramp and congratulating him on 200.
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Compared to Warner, Smith and company he is an angel.
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07/03/2021 12:32:43 1 2
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Agreed.
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Compared to Warner and Smith, Jack the Ripper was a naughty schoolboy
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07/03/2021 09:35:38 8 3
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It will be a fascinating one off with NZ. I think Williamson and co will shade it with their new ball attack and depth of batting. And frankly because they manage their approach to all 3 versions of the game so much better than England.
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 10 3
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Aren't New Zealand 6th in the T20 rankings and 3rd in ODIs?

Not being disrespectful but that's not the greatest of returns for a team that manages "their approach" better.
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07/03/2021 10:47:48 2 0
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whats nz v india got to do with the england test team ? england are odi world champions remember so they must manage that ok yeah ! have won the t20 and been in another final so not to bad at that either, kiwis not been in t20 final yet so your remark is a bit strange
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07/03/2021 09:36:48 3 4
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Oh no, another 2000 HYS posts about the pitch
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07/03/2021 09:36:53 32 2
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If India are to win, their senior batsmen need to score runs. They got away with it in this series.

I do think, however, the return series is going to be the battle of the bowlers. Both teams have great pace attacks.
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07/03/2021 12:29:50 6 0
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Bear in mind the tests are played from Aug onwards which may mean drier pitches (if a good summer in Jun/Ju), and also bring the spinners into play. That's it for English batsmen then to go tipsy without consuming beers:-)
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07/03/2021 13:37:54 4 0
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England will be hurting after this, and I'm absolutely sure they want to make up for this when India come here in the Summer. Should be a great series
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07/03/2021 17:16:36 1 1
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Indian bowlers are underrated. Their batsmen need to be more consistent. India middle order particularly has been iffy off late. A good start has eluded them in England as well. If they can sort out their woes they have every chance of emerging victorious.
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07/03/2021 09:11:04 7 17
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What a spineless effort by England, wouldn’t have happened if Eoin Morgan was at the helm, root out! No backbone, rubbish outfit!
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07/03/2021 09:38:13 10 0
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Yeah, replace a red ball specialist with a white ball one. For a red ball match. Makes a lot of sense.
Have you thought of applying for a post with the ECB?
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07/03/2021 09:39:00 9 9
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People on here seem to think India have it 'In the bag' already. Their poor record in England would suggest otherwise and facing Boult, Southee, Wagner and Jamieson will not be easy. Also, stop with the lazy 'Greentops' talk, it's dull and a cliche. Pitches in the U.K are brown like elsewhere and most of the movement is through the air. Help off the pitch is inevitable with it being damp anyway.
Stop talking rubbish. Not one poster has said that India have it in the bag. Removed
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07/03/2021 11:34:46 0 2
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Green top denial alert!
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07/03/2021 09:11:06 125 45
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Most neutrals will be rooting for NZ to win the Test Championship. A country of 4.8 million verses 1.3 billion. Hopefully, pitch and weather conditions will enable a five day Test for spectators to enjoy rather than be short-changed with a two or three day result. They should have played best of three of course and ICC need to take Test cricket more seriously but don't hold your breath.
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07/03/2021 09:41:27 11 5
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Agree with you neutrals will probably support NZ but it will be the atmosphere at the ground that matters most where the Indians, given their raucous support, will buy up all the tickets and it will be like a home game for them
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07/03/2021 10:34:11 11 7
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it was in the world cup but the kiwis still won
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07/03/2021 10:59:13 9 3
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home game in terms of crowd support but away game in terms of conditions, pitch, weather and the seam. i am a neutralist but after the gabba win I do root for Ind. But I will be also very happy if Nz wins. it sucks to twice lost in the world cup finals, and kane deserves some happiness and glory. the whole NZ team does. on the other hand not a big fan of kohli (as a cricketer he is good)
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07/03/2021 13:08:53 5 3
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You mean the incredibly rude Indian fans who choose not to acknowledge good play by the opposition? They are as bad as the obnoxious abusive bogan Aussie fans. At least most other test nations fans are there for the cricket and will applaud a boundary or a wicket whoever makes it.
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07/03/2021 09:00:28 14 5
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It won’t though, because their spinners won’t be anywhere near as effective and their batsmen can’t play the swinging ball. Our only worry is our batsmen, but surely they can’t as bad in hime conditions.
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Glad you said 'swinging ball' and didn't come up with the lazy 'Greentops' rubbish that a lot of people spout on here.
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07/03/2021 09:33:02 2 1
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Bumrah will be delighted. Not to mention Sharma.
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 1 0
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Need pitches with zero spin - not a millimetre
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07/03/2021 09:35:38 8 3
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It will be a fascinating one off with NZ. I think Williamson and co will shade it with their new ball attack and depth of batting. And frankly because they manage their approach to all 3 versions of the game so much better than England.
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 10 3
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Aren't New Zealand 6th in the T20 rankings and 3rd in ODIs?

Not being disrespectful but that's not the greatest of returns for a team that manages "their approach" better.
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07/03/2021 09:44:09 1 1
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And there was me thinking we were talking about Test cricket on here.
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3rd is pretty good. T20 is a lottery.
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I have no issue at all with Kohli, he led his team well and all this not walking rubbish, I think he was just stunned.
Plus he was very sporting in 1st Test - which England won remember - helping Root with cramp and congratulating him on 200.
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07/03/2021 09:42:17 12 6
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Steve. An educated cricket man.
He got bowled and there was a delay before it hit the wicket. Brilliant ball which lost its pace after beating the bat and hence he wanted to check. Well spotted.
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07/03/2021 10:43:11 6 8
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lol you would defend him if he committed murder
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 10 3
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Aren't New Zealand 6th in the T20 rankings and 3rd in ODIs?

Not being disrespectful but that's not the greatest of returns for a team that manages "their approach" better.
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And there was me thinking we were talking about Test cricket on here.
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07/03/2021 09:45:02 5 17
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So much rubbish about the pitches and about Kohli. England cannot bat to save their lives and havent been able to bat for about 5 years now. When a starting 11 has only 1 player with an average above the 30's then you know your batting team is no good. England bowlers have worked wonders over the years just to keep us in games. I would kill to have a player like Kohli in the England team.
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07/03/2021 10:32:53 3 2
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Any team would. He's the standout player of this generation and, despite a bad run, he will probably go on to set the bar for multi-format batsman for years to come. I understand he rubs people the wrong way but you can only admire his talent and dedication.
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07/03/2021 10:52:46 3 1
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could have sworn crawley scored a double ton last summer ! also if england cant bat how come they beat sri lanka , w i , and pakistan and s africa before this series ?
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07/03/2021 09:39:00 9 9
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People on here seem to think India have it 'In the bag' already. Their poor record in England would suggest otherwise and facing Boult, Southee, Wagner and Jamieson will not be easy. Also, stop with the lazy 'Greentops' talk, it's dull and a cliche. Pitches in the U.K are brown like elsewhere and most of the movement is through the air. Help off the pitch is inevitable with it being damp anyway.
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Stop talking rubbish. Not one poster has said that India have it in the bag. Removed
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I have no issue at all with Kohli, he led his team well and all this not walking rubbish, I think he was just stunned.
Plus he was very sporting in 1st Test - which England won remember - helping Root with cramp and congratulating him on 200.
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07/03/2021 09:48:49 13 29
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He is a moody little girl when things go against him and tries everything to get his own way. His behaviour in New Zealand was a disgrace and getting a good hiding might have had something to do with that. The New Zealanders will have noted that and he won't get away with throwing a hissy fit as he won't be in his own backyard. Would love to see the Kiwi's beat India and think they will.
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07/03/2021 10:50:33 8 17
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I too get the impression that Kohli is a bit of a spoiled brat. He reminds me of a certain Donald Trump, (although I admit he probably has more talent in his little finger than that nincompoop) in that his demanding persona and undoubtedly powerful position leads him to tantrums if he doesn’t get his way. My mother would simply have told him “you are not too big to go over my knee my boy”
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07/03/2021 13:18:25 8 3
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He does behave like a stroppy little girl sometimes. I know Root will sometimes have a chat with the umpires, but never without good cause. Smith seems to have gone a bit quiet and be concentrating on his game, which is a worry for other sides! But Kane Williamson is irreproachable, an example to all sports players the world over.
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07/03/2021 15:34:00 8 1
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What moody behaviour in NZ? I recall seeing pictures of him sitting on the ground at the edge of the boundary having a long friendly chat with Kane Williamson [along with Pant I think] on India's tour of NZ around a year back. Anyway just because he is not one to hide his emotions & wears his heart on his sleeve, he is wrongly perceived by some but he gets on very well with most of his rivals.
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Nope
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At least he has not told the opposition that he will 'make them grovel' like England captains of the past (just before they got blackwashed 5-0)
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07/03/2021 09:50:02 45 1
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I recon New Zealand will have edge only because they have smartly arranged a test series against England in the first week on June 2021. They would play 2 test against England before the finals on June 18, 2021. Having said that, this Indian bunch is full of talent and they have the potential to win. Hopefully, we get to have a 5 day game rather than 2-3 days.
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07/03/2021 10:14:39 16 1
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I think Kyle Jamieson will surprise a lot of people over here...
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07/03/2021 10:36:02 4 2
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What if nz lose to eng comprehensively how will their morale fare facing India conquerors of India
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07/03/2021 11:03:48 4 0
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Let us hope that weather does not intervene and that CRICKET is the winner
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07/03/2021 11:42:09 4 2
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Unless we get an unusually dry early Summer, the English pitches won’t turn mid June. So it tips it NZ way a bit. Hope we get 5 days of cricket- not the rubbish we have seen in India, where England were poor and the wickets not built to last 5 days. India and NZ are both good test sides- good luck to them
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07/03/2021 23:59:08 2 1
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England won't be playing so should go beyond 2-3 days ??
Stop talking rubbish. Not one poster has said that India have it in the bag. Removed
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07/03/2021 09:51:19 1 0
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It'll be an exciting summer for Indian fans, plenty of meaningful cricket to be played. They have to look at the openers as that is a weakness perhaps go with Rohit and Mayank Agarwal. Take Shubman Gill for experience and as backup. Washington Sundar has to bat, hes too good not to he showed that in Aus and at home. He should bat at 7 or 8 although he is a phenomenal number 8. Lots to look towards
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07/03/2021 10:01:32 0 4
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Trigger issue on Gill. 5 minute job to sort.
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07/03/2021 09:11:04 7 17
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What a spineless effort by England, wouldn’t have happened if Eoin Morgan was at the helm, root out! No backbone, rubbish outfit!
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07/03/2021 09:51:52 7 0
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So you want a player who cannot play short pitched bowling and has a test average of 30 and a first class average of 33 to not only play test cricket but to also lead the team lol
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07/03/2021 09:55:05 9 8
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The difference when the Indian team come here will be marked on 2 clear fronts. Their batsman will be exponentially better at playing on seaming tracks than we are on turners. And their pace bowlers are exponentially better than our spinners. They may still not win, or they may, but they are clearly a better side than England.
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07/03/2021 10:13:48 4 3
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It's more to do with mental fortitude, something England seem to lack these days (Zak Crawley, it's no good talking the talk if you can't walk the walk).
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07/03/2021 10:17:20 0 0
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It is a tough call. England conditions are challenging and the bowlers are far more menacing in home conditions. I hope practise a lot on seaming pitches before we head off to England.
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07/03/2021 10:21:27 2 0
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The writer is right. Let us be honest. We have been poor when playing in England for decades. We may be better playing spin but facing seamers has to be addressed. I agree that series should be called our final frontier along with South Africa - India has NEVER won a series in SA.
The WTC "final" should be considered a distraction, agreed.
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07/03/2021 12:36:39 0 0
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India are definitely better team than us on all fronts, but you do have to remember that most of test cricket against the top teams is played on pitches suiting seamers so that is partly why India are better suited to it (England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand). England are not the only ones bad at playing spin, hence the fact India haven't lost a series at home since 2012.
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07/03/2021 09:42:09 10 3
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Aren't New Zealand 6th in the T20 rankings and 3rd in ODIs?

Not being disrespectful but that's not the greatest of returns for a team that manages "their approach" better.
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07/03/2021 09:56:43 3 0
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3rd is pretty good. T20 is a lottery.
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07/03/2021 10:01:21 33 7
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The great WG Kohli has been on a pair a couple of times this series. Just saying!
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07/03/2021 10:36:56 67 21
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Quite right too. We might have been totally outplayed in the final 3 tests but watching Kohli stand there arrogantly thinking about reviewing being clean bowled was my favourite moment ??
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07/03/2021 11:48:37 3 1
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The best are always berated - only saying.

Root, Smith and Kohli are the best - no question (they have bad days a they’ll have a few more but they’ll end they’re careers at the top).
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Let's not pry into his private affairs.
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07/03/2021 09:51:19 1 0
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It'll be an exciting summer for Indian fans, plenty of meaningful cricket to be played. They have to look at the openers as that is a weakness perhaps go with Rohit and Mayank Agarwal. Take Shubman Gill for experience and as backup. Washington Sundar has to bat, hes too good not to he showed that in Aus and at home. He should bat at 7 or 8 although he is a phenomenal number 8. Lots to look towards
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07/03/2021 10:01:32 0 4
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Trigger issue on Gill. 5 minute job to sort.
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07/03/2021 10:02:32 51 4
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Indian bowling attack is as good as any other top test playing nations. Seaming challenge doesn't just apply to Indians but also to English. The team who handles the seam well is gonna be the winner. England being a home team are favorites but no one can write off this Indian team. Hopefully, we will get to see a great cricket.
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07/03/2021 10:22:08 19 7
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India rotate their seamers really intelligently: pound for pound, they do not make the same impact as Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins, but by using them on a well-co-ordinated hit-and-run basis, they are always kept fresh and firing. Just look at their stats!!
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that is the most sensible post i have seen you post cricket fan ,well done
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07/03/2021 11:54:25 3 2
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Anderson will be swinging that ball on green pitches, through dim light in largely overcast conditions. As long as he stays fit, he is the match winner - most other factors are irrelevant.
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07/03/2021 10:03:43 5 5
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My Money is on Black Caps to win against India in World Test Final in English conditions
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07/03/2021 10:33:39 0 4
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Kiwi lost to aussies 3-0 and we beat aussies 2-1, apart from that they beat Windies, Pakistan and us. But India is vastly improved team in foreign conditions now, India will be might strong, we got most bases covered
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07/03/2021 10:35:00 0 1
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Ooooh, dont know.....yes, NZ may have be marginally ahead, but then they have to contest Indian batsmen numbers 6/7/8/
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07/03/2021 10:04:26 21 12
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Congratulations to the ICC working groups who have deliberated and reflected over several years to develop a structure that handled all of the financial, logistical, and political constraints of which they have far greater knowledge than any of us on these comments pages. They have been able to deal with the Covid pandemic and get the tournament on time to a final with worthy finalists.
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07/03/2021 10:13:45 4 12
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Good to see your posts PB. Top poster.
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08/03/2021 22:13:49 0 0
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Agreed, now if they could just scrap the hundred distraction. 20-20 works as it is, don't need a fourth format.
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07/03/2021 10:06:18 2 6
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India have it all to do, that’s the thing about winning, to be able to remain at the top you need new challenges and targets.

India will turn their attention to the WTC and English tour, both are opportunities to write themselves into the history books. The majority of England will support NZ but India won’t mind, a siege mentality is just as good as as an under dog tag!

Still sipping the?? ????
Most people will be supporting NZ because they are mostly white and the poor Raj masters lost to the chai wallahs?

It seems in sport that Brown Lives Don't Matter and its not fair play for all.
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07/03/2021 14:32:51 0 0
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India have a big diaspora in the UK and they will flood the ground. The conditions may differ but atmosphere will feel like they are playing in India
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England's weather being unpredictable, what happens if it rains in June? Will they be joint winners?
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07/03/2021 10:13:29 22 1
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Tent on the outfield; a bake-off
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07/03/2021 10:09:54 9 3
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England's weather being unpredictable, what happens if it rains in June? Will they be joint winners?
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07/03/2021 10:13:29 22 1
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Tent on the outfield; a bake-off
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07/03/2021 10:17:18 3 0
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Bhaji V Kiwi fruit
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07/03/2021 10:32:17 1 0
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Love it!
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07/03/2021 11:38:18 2 0
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Samosas versus Pasties! Bring it on ????
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????
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07/03/2021 15:02:23 1 0
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Better still a dance off or a sing off :)
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07/03/2021 10:04:26 21 12
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Congratulations to the ICC working groups who have deliberated and reflected over several years to develop a structure that handled all of the financial, logistical, and political constraints of which they have far greater knowledge than any of us on these comments pages. They have been able to deal with the Covid pandemic and get the tournament on time to a final with worthy finalists.
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Good to see your posts PB. Top poster.
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OBN in the post
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The difference when the Indian team come here will be marked on 2 clear fronts. Their batsman will be exponentially better at playing on seaming tracks than we are on turners. And their pace bowlers are exponentially better than our spinners. They may still not win, or they may, but they are clearly a better side than England.
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07/03/2021 10:13:48 4 3
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It's more to do with mental fortitude, something England seem to lack these days (Zak Crawley, it's no good talking the talk if you can't walk the walk).
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07/03/2021 09:50:02 45 1
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I recon New Zealand will have edge only because they have smartly arranged a test series against England in the first week on June 2021. They would play 2 test against England before the finals on June 18, 2021. Having said that, this Indian bunch is full of talent and they have the potential to win. Hopefully, we get to have a 5 day game rather than 2-3 days.
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07/03/2021 10:14:39 16 1
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I think Kyle Jamieson will surprise a lot of people over here...
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07/03/2021 11:22:20 2 0
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he is a top player.... in a way (if you get what I am saying) he is the NZ fast bowling version of Axar Patel from Jan 2020
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07/03/2021 13:09:40 2 0
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His singing is amazing
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07/03/2021 13:23:30 4 1
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Could damage some fingers! Where do NZ keep finding these world class players!
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07/03/2021 10:15:15 21 4
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Lords in June, can't wait! With spectators too ??
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07/03/2021 11:53:19 3 1
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Being moved to Southampton
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Lords is a micky mouse venue, the ground is not even level !!
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Ladies in June, can't wait! With spectators too ??
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07/03/2021 10:13:29 22 1
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Tent on the outfield; a bake-off
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Bhaji V Kiwi fruit
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07/03/2021 15:02:55 1 0
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Mango Vs Kiwi fruit :)
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The difference when the Indian team come here will be marked on 2 clear fronts. Their batsman will be exponentially better at playing on seaming tracks than we are on turners. And their pace bowlers are exponentially better than our spinners. They may still not win, or they may, but they are clearly a better side than England.
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07/03/2021 10:17:20 0 0
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It is a tough call. England conditions are challenging and the bowlers are far more menacing in home conditions. I hope practise a lot on seaming pitches before we head off to England.
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07/03/2021 10:17:22 1 1
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Looking forward to seeing two good teams play in the summer. Is it too much to hope it will be televised on terrestrial tv rather than on pay per view?
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07/03/2021 10:18:40 12 7
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Congratulations to India, a thoroughly intelligent and professional performance throughout the series. After a great performance in the first test, England rather predictably capitulated. Their rotation policy was a mess: what had Woakes done that necessitated him to be 'rested'???
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07/03/2021 10:21:13 3 6
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India played a much better game in Australia and in India but test cricket's credibility is continually undermined by a lack of objectivity in the fairness of the pitch. A start would be to allow the visiting side to chose to bat first but a more robust long term solution needs to be found.
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07/03/2021 10:56:04 1 0
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England batted first in 3 of the tests. I really don't think that would have made any difference. England batsmen just need to value their wicket more and dig in when needed. When we're on top we have batsmen who score at a rapid rate. Unfortunately these same batsmen don't seem able to hang on very long and form partnerships. All very well scoring at 4 an over if you're all out for 205
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The difference when the Indian team come here will be marked on 2 clear fronts. Their batsman will be exponentially better at playing on seaming tracks than we are on turners. And their pace bowlers are exponentially better than our spinners. They may still not win, or they may, but they are clearly a better side than England.
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07/03/2021 10:21:27 2 0
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The writer is right. Let us be honest. We have been poor when playing in England for decades. We may be better playing spin but facing seamers has to be addressed. I agree that series should be called our final frontier along with South Africa - India has NEVER won a series in SA.
The WTC "final" should be considered a distraction, agreed.
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07/03/2021 18:09:01 1 0
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if india toured sa now they would win im sure of that
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07/03/2021 10:02:32 51 4
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Indian bowling attack is as good as any other top test playing nations. Seaming challenge doesn't just apply to Indians but also to English. The team who handles the seam well is gonna be the winner. England being a home team are favorites but no one can write off this Indian team. Hopefully, we will get to see a great cricket.
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07/03/2021 10:22:08 19 7
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India rotate their seamers really intelligently: pound for pound, they do not make the same impact as Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins, but by using them on a well-co-ordinated hit-and-run basis, they are always kept fresh and firing. Just look at their stats!!
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07/03/2021 11:05:57 4 2
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bumrahs stats get helped because he never bowls in india, just saying. poor ishant has to do the hard yards in inia so no wander his avg is a lot higher
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07/03/2021 23:28:02 1 0
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Good assessment!

Why Indian pacers are more effective despite being not as lethal is that - India can bowl a spinner even with a new(er) ball without much giving away any pressure. That means, what Indian pacers lack with the new ball, make up for semi-old and old ball.

Indian bowlers just keep chipping away as against other teams which give up if they don't make good incision with the new ball.
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Well said!

Why Indian pacers are more effective despite being not as lethal is that - India can bowl a spinner even with a new(er) ball without giving away any pressure. That means, what Indian pacers lack with the new ball, make up for with the semi-old and old ball.

Indian bowlers just keep chipping away as against other teams which give up if they don't make good incision with the new ball.
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07/03/2021 09:27:18 10 2
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True, however I’m not sure how good our batsmen really are against quality pace bowlers. India seem to have a better group of fast bowlers this time round that could rival ours. We actually lost a couple of wickets to pace in this last test on a pitch that you wouldn’t say offered a lot to pace bowlers. It will definitely come down to which sides batting unit can adapt better. Look forward to it!
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07/03/2021 10:27:17 2 0
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India's seamers didn't match England's last time they came here; but it will be interesting to see how someone like Siraj gets on in conditions that should help him. England need to put faith in Wood, S Curran and Stone this summer.
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07/03/2021 11:28:27 0 0
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Plus Woakes if Root permits it
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07/03/2021 11:50:26 1 0
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Agreed however I think they have better seamers this time round than last time. I think the only one touring from last time will be Ishant, the others may not have played in England before. Will be interesting for sure. We need to get Archer right. i may be wrong but he looked a little disinterested at times and his pace was inconsistent but that could just be due to the type of surface
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07/03/2021 10:29:24 2 2
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A one - off test in random conditions to determine the world champions is just crazy.
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07/03/2021 10:57:42 0 0
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Depends how it goes but agreed. 3 would be best.
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07/03/2021 10:29:36 4 3
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Just wait till the ball is hooping around in the summer and Woakes is back in the team!
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07/03/2021 12:23:26 1 0
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It's be nice, but Woakes has got the selectors to get past first!
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07/03/2021 10:29:53 5 3
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Selection and coaching especially batting coach need to be evaluated by England. Well done India quality side in every department on their home patch. How they fair elsewhere is yet to be seen.
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07/03/2021 10:53:39 6 0
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They just won a test series in Australia..
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07/03/2021 10:56:56 3 0
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Paul. I think India are going to Australia. Oh, sorry. They've just beaten Aus 2-1 in Oz. Try and keep up.
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07/03/2021 09:27:18 10 2
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True, however I’m not sure how good our batsmen really are against quality pace bowlers. India seem to have a better group of fast bowlers this time round that could rival ours. We actually lost a couple of wickets to pace in this last test on a pitch that you wouldn’t say offered a lot to pace bowlers. It will definitely come down to which sides batting unit can adapt better. Look forward to it!
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07/03/2021 10:30:43 4 2
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apart from siraj the indian attack is the same as last time , when they were thrashed 4-1
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07/03/2021 10:53:05 4 2
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Bumrah has improved markedly since then.
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07/03/2021 10:31:02 2 12
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India are the most skilled, determined exciting Test team in the world at the moment.

I'll be cheering them on against New Zealand.

My patriotism in sports does not reach beyond the north east so ill be cheering India against England as well except if Mark Wood plays.
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07/03/2021 10:55:33 0 0
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The north west frontier
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07/03/2021 10:55:40 0 0
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Wood and Ollie Stone together?
Wow
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07/03/2021 10:13:29 22 1
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Tent on the outfield; a bake-off
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07/03/2021 10:32:17 1 0
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Love it!
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07/03/2021 09:45:02 5 17
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So much rubbish about the pitches and about Kohli. England cannot bat to save their lives and havent been able to bat for about 5 years now. When a starting 11 has only 1 player with an average above the 30's then you know your batting team is no good. England bowlers have worked wonders over the years just to keep us in games. I would kill to have a player like Kohli in the England team.
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07/03/2021 10:32:53 3 2
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Any team would. He's the standout player of this generation and, despite a bad run, he will probably go on to set the bar for multi-format batsman for years to come. I understand he rubs people the wrong way but you can only admire his talent and dedication.
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07/03/2021 10:33:01 8 11
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India have no chance against New Zealand in the "final". They won't be able to take their own pitch and umpire officials with them.
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07/03/2021 10:39:18 7 4
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You're the reason why the Aussies still call us Whingeing Poms
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07/03/2021 10:03:43 5 5
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My Money is on Black Caps to win against India in World Test Final in English conditions
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07/03/2021 10:33:39 0 4
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Kiwi lost to aussies 3-0 and we beat aussies 2-1, apart from that they beat Windies, Pakistan and us. But India is vastly improved team in foreign conditions now, India will be might strong, we got most bases covered
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07/03/2021 11:08:05 2 1
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them hammered you not long ago so how are you vastly improved in foreign conditions
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07/03/2021 13:11:45 0 0
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Apart from Gill India's top 5 are on the decline [at an alarming rate too] - Will do well to blood replacements for Pujara and Rahane before June
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07/03/2021 10:33:42 44 33
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At least English conditions allow for a fair contest between bat and ball. That India handled their own conditions better is unquestioned. England lack front line spinners and made daft selection mistakes. But the wickets were not fit for three day county cricket let alone tests. The shock of the first test defeat led India to prepare ridiculous wickets which they knew they could handle better.
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Is it still hurting? ??
England don't prepare green tops for its own benefit? Reality is test match cricket has inherent bias for all home teams. Its just a reality of geological conditions. India is a dry and hot country with sandy soil, you’d have thought they’d have figured that out after 200 years of illegal occupation in India. Now put your sour grapes away and acknowledge that the table doesn't lie. Removed
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07/03/2021 11:18:38 15 14
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"fair contest between bat and ball"? According to whom? When Broad takes a five-for nothing at Old Trafford is brilliant bowling but when Ashwin takes a 5 for little at Ahm the pitch is blamed. It's this sort of one-eyed logic and inherent arrogance that's led to the English never mastering spin. At least spinning pitches don't cause bodily harm unlike the greens in England.
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07/03/2021 11:24:55 11 0
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The home team prepared a wicket that suited them more.....well there's a shock!
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07/03/2021 13:00:23 2 0
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Aye, fair contest all right!

It takes competent batmen from one side and competent bowlers from the other to make it a fair contest.

Day 2 of the final test was fair contest. Indian batsmen versus English bowlers. The other way round ... oh dear!
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07/03/2021 13:11:50 10 3
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blah blah... everything English is better... blah blah yawn
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08/03/2021 17:33:27 0 0
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By your logic, if england had collapsed 36 AO, english fans would have cried the pitch was tricky, with this attitude, i see England players struggling even 50 yrs on
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07/03/2021 10:34:00 1 0
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I don’t think the comment about India not having their full team out and England paying there’s is quite right, buttler/Ali played one test for example, with bubbles it’s more of a squad game - the summer series in England- covid permitting, may allow both sides to be at full strength
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07/03/2021 09:41:27 11 5
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Agree with you neutrals will probably support NZ but it will be the atmosphere at the ground that matters most where the Indians, given their raucous support, will buy up all the tickets and it will be like a home game for them
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07/03/2021 10:34:11 11 7
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it was in the world cup but the kiwis still won
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07/03/2021 13:10:22 2 1
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That was a brilliant close match, as good a ODI as you will ever see. Unfortunately the rules worked out in favour of England. As an England supporter, NZ is my second favourite international cricket team, I would have been happy for either side to win.
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07/03/2021 15:15:48 0 0
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Look at the scorebook!!
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07/03/2021 10:34:50 1 0
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"World Test Championship" is the sort of thing sports administrators with too much power and not enough accountability dream up. (See also FIFA World Club Cup.)

The way to have a Test World Cup would be to get the Top Six teams together for a whole summer to play each other in a league.
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07/03/2021 10:53:04 0 0
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Sounds very practical. Test matches in the snow.
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07/03/2021 10:56:59 0 0
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To be staged in multiple locations or perhaps India who could then work on home advantage. The whole event could be viewed as flawed and so not really worth pursuing. I think it better to reflect on the history between two nations with future series adding to that.
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07/03/2021 11:19:43 2 0
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Two-match series were ridiculous though. If you lost the first then you had no chance. Every series should have had the same format rather than just the same points total. That won't happen though - it would be too sensible and fair.
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07/03/2021 11:21:36 0 0
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Too much advantage to the home side. Better would be home and away matches over 6-9months, 'following the season.' E.g, all sides play SA at home in succession over 2-3 months beginning say in October with Aus first in line, Aus then go home to host each of the teams who were in SA in the same succession beginning with NZ who then become hosts and so on, finishing in the English summer
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07/03/2021 10:03:43 5 5
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My Money is on Black Caps to win against India in World Test Final in English conditions
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07/03/2021 10:35:00 0 1
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Ooooh, dont know.....yes, NZ may have be marginally ahead, but then they have to contest Indian batsmen numbers 6/7/8/
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07/03/2021 09:50:02 45 1
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I recon New Zealand will have edge only because they have smartly arranged a test series against England in the first week on June 2021. They would play 2 test against England before the finals on June 18, 2021. Having said that, this Indian bunch is full of talent and they have the potential to win. Hopefully, we get to have a 5 day game rather than 2-3 days.
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07/03/2021 10:36:02 4 2
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What if nz lose to eng comprehensively how will their morale fare facing India conquerors of India
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07/03/2021 10:01:21 33 7
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The great WG Kohli has been on a pair a couple of times this series. Just saying!
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07/03/2021 10:36:56 67 21
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Quite right too. We might have been totally outplayed in the final 3 tests but watching Kohli stand there arrogantly thinking about reviewing being clean bowled was my favourite moment ??
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07/03/2021 12:34:51 9 1
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Not a fan of Kohli the public man but I think he was simply bewildered, not trying for a review.
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07/03/2021 13:25:45 1 0
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I laughed out loud at that!
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08/03/2021 01:49:26 0 0
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More likely, wishful thinking on your part...
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08/03/2021 17:25:42 0 0
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I reckon it was good for england, else all 3 tests would have been over in 2 days each
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07/03/2021 09:07:46 5 4
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Cricket is a game of individual performances built on skill, adapting to conditions and confidence. Whoever thought of applying a rotation policy for a touring side got it very very wrong. The winning side in Sri Lanka should not have been changed.
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07/03/2021 10:36:57 2 0
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International cricket is clearly, mentally very testing and may be unique in the way it examines players psyche. Add in the challenges of life “in a bubble” and, to me at least, I can see very good reasons for the rotation policy. Having spent much time abroad due to work, I can empathise with the players who cannot unwind in familiar environment of home with their family. 24/7 at work anyone?
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07/03/2021 09:11:56 22 5
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The attitude towards cricket & the attitude of cricketers both have changed. India has been lucky to get 3 great captains in a row & are now a force similar to the great Australian side of the 2000s. IPL has brought money, exposure & confidence to these players who aren’t afraid of taking on the world. Pant’s reverse sweep of Anderson is, but an example of that.
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07/03/2021 10:37:36 21 5
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sorry mate you cant compare that aussie team to this indian one yet . this indian one has to win every where in the world on numerous occasions and 3 or 4 world cups on the trott to compare with that great aussie one.
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07/03/2021 11:11:15 7 2
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That great australian team never won in India in entire 90s and 2000s just one series they won that too under micheal Clarke I think not under Waugh or ponting
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07/03/2021 12:30:04 4 1
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Agree - that Aussie team were the best that I have seen
Dont discount the cheating that great aussie team must have done, they were not caught, they were claiming every bounce catch, intimidating umpires, so sandpaper or sugary touch wasnt something they would have missed to try, to become greats Removed
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07/03/2021 09:04:53 7 3
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First of All well done India on the Series win.

Yes Kohli is one of a kind and a strong character too of which you saw playing to the Crowd and Media too at times.

As many say he is Brand and would India be mad to release him of his Captaincy.

On another note did not take long for the Media to sharpen the knives and stick into England and how sad.

Cricket is the Winner .
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07/03/2021 10:38:25 5 0
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To be fair, Duncan, a lot of English fans will be disappointed, and understandably so, about the way England caved in after a great performance in the first test. I wish I could be more positive, but I think we could all reasonably forsee the way things were going after defeat in the Second Test.
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07/03/2021 11:28:40 3 0
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Morning Shieldgirl ...

Yes there be plenty feeling disappointed on what has happened.

Also the Cricketing ones will be aware of the ECB too on how it's tinkering and working it's ways within selection.

Hindsight is great if they knew what was what ...

We have to remember we playing India in India and how they prepare their Wickets and experience. Of which we did not plan the it well.
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07/03/2021 09:33:02 2 1
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Bumrah will be delighted. Not to mention Sharma.
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07/03/2021 10:38:35 2 0
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didnt help last time did it 4-1
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07/03/2021 10:33:01 8 11
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India have no chance against New Zealand in the "final". They won't be able to take their own pitch and umpire officials with them.
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07/03/2021 10:39:18 7 4
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You're the reason why the Aussies still call us Whingeing Poms
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07/03/2021 10:50:12 3 0
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The first test proves the wickets were ripped up even the Indians batsman struggled the only diff was the biased umpires helped them
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07/03/2021 10:53:49 4 1
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Seriously! When you see something wrong it needs to be called out. You cannot defend those pitches or the decisions which invariably went the way of the home side. India probably didn't need to do it but they did and for that reason they do not deserve their place in the final
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07/03/2021 18:17:56 0 0
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the aussies call every one some thing mate
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07/03/2021 10:40:14 1 2
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Burst Kohli / Ig—-ant.
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07/03/2021 09:27:54 14 1
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The 3 senior batters all failed for India. Yet Ashwin, Axar, Sundar and Pant were all great in the last 3 matches. Axar and Sundar have had dream starts.

Not so sure India will be so good in England if Kohli, Pujara and Rahane fail again.

But Ashwin is still excellent outside India and Axar has his best figures when playing for Durham.

Looking forward to a good series.
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07/03/2021 10:40:21 7 0
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if you look back to last tour india only played one spinner most matches even ashwin was dropped during the tour
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07/03/2021 09:30:21 8 1
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I’m looking forward to the series this summer. India have been battered in their previous 3 tours here but look to have a much better pace bowling unit this time round. It’s whether their batting can click as a unit and put some big runs on the board. Last time out they lost 2 tests chasing quite modest totals. The opener Gill looks suspect against the moving ball.
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07/03/2021 10:41:24 4 1
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same attack as last time apart from siraj who prob wont be first choice
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07/03/2021 16:33:52 0 0
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Fair enough. I guess the extra experience will help. They look better bowlers since last time out but only time will tell.
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07/03/2021 09:42:17 12 6
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Steve. An educated cricket man.
He got bowled and there was a delay before it hit the wicket. Brilliant ball which lost its pace after beating the bat and hence he wanted to check. Well spotted.
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07/03/2021 10:43:11 6 8
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lol you would defend him if he committed murder
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07/03/2021 10:44:38 2 2
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To those pundits and fans that have been whining on about how the pitch and conditions should be conducive to 5 day tests; Perhaps we should avoid Tests in a location where half the matches are disrupted and decided by rain.
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07/03/2021 12:22:30 1 0
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half the matches lol you really need to do some revision mate
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07/03/2021 10:45:40 23 8
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A good Indian side but far from a great test side, would have been spanked by a Clive Lloyd or Steve Waugh side.
Stop posting rubbish. Waugh's team lost in India and drew in Aus. Stop posting rubbish. Ask Clive Lloyd about the only team that stood up to WI. They still sing songs about Gavaskar. Removed
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07/03/2021 11:10:52 4 2
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Oh, it would have been spanked by a Boycott-Gower-Gooch-Gatting-Botham-Emburey-Willis team as well. But that is not who they were playing. They were playing a Root-Anderson-Stokes-and-numpties team that is all 20-20 and no test cricket material.
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07/03/2021 13:07:16 6 4
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Steve Waughs side lost in India.
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07/03/2021 13:13:33 4 1
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'would have been spanked by' - that's just not cricket :-)
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07/03/2021 14:52:41 3 1
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just random isnt it!! When Steve Waugh or Ponting's side were doing well..I remember comments about them being blown away by Clive Lloyds team.. there is no point comparing era's... maybe just maybe this Indian team just edges many teams as it stands.. so lets move on..
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07/03/2021 15:28:11 2 0
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May be but Steve Waugh's or Clive Lloyd's were not invincible even when they were at best - they did get beaten fair and square at times.
I don't think anyone claims this is the greatest team - right now could be or second to NZ based on the outcome in June. And it may change next year. Why fret?
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07/03/2021 23:44:46 0 0
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2000s' Indian team was only lacking in the pace department. 2000s' batting and today's bowling would have made India an invincible team in any era.

Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Luxman, Kirmani, Kapil, Bumrah, Shami, Kumble, Ashwin - could have won against any side of the past 50 years, from any part of the world.
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07/03/2021 09:31:21 122 13
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I have no issue at all with Kohli, he led his team well and all this not walking rubbish, I think he was just stunned.
Plus he was very sporting in 1st Test - which England won remember - helping Root with cramp and congratulating him on 200.
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dgj
07/03/2021 10:47:11 21 7
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Kohli is combative, not unsporting.
Nothing wrong with that - all winners are combative to some degree.
It is those who are criticizing him here who are unsporting.

He seems an engaging personality - frequently smiling.
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07/03/2021 09:35:38 8 3
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It will be a fascinating one off with NZ. I think Williamson and co will shade it with their new ball attack and depth of batting. And frankly because they manage their approach to all 3 versions of the game so much better than England.
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07/03/2021 10:47:48 2 0
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whats nz v india got to do with the england test team ? england are odi world champions remember so they must manage that ok yeah ! have won the t20 and been in another final so not to bad at that either, kiwis not been in t20 final yet so your remark is a bit strange
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07/03/2021 10:33:42 44 33
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At least English conditions allow for a fair contest between bat and ball. That India handled their own conditions better is unquestioned. England lack front line spinners and made daft selection mistakes. But the wickets were not fit for three day county cricket let alone tests. The shock of the first test defeat led India to prepare ridiculous wickets which they knew they could handle better.
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07/03/2021 10:48:49 31 34
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Is it still hurting? ??
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07/03/2021 11:14:35 13 5
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cant handle the truth ?
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07/03/2021 10:49:27 5 1
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Every Home Test Team uses their advantage of pitch prep and condition, that's nothing new. As England will when they play home Tests in the Summer against the likes of India. It's how the Away Team adapts or not if a Series actually becomes a contest...Quite simple to grasp...LOL
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07/03/2021 11:04:00 6 0
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As you say, there's conditions and pitch prep. In England, pitches are prepared as best they can be. Conditions (eg cloudy skies and general atmospherics) are there to be exploited. That is what gives England the upper hand when you have Anderson & Broad firing away and it isn't manufactured under instructions. When was the last time anyone saw a "green top". It's one of those many myths.
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07/03/2021 11:16:16 2 0
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We also give the visitors matches to prepare for the conditions thus evening up the odds. But then we are so good that we don't need such matches on tour.......
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07/03/2021 10:39:18 7 4
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You're the reason why the Aussies still call us Whingeing Poms
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07/03/2021 10:50:12 3 0
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The first test proves the wickets were ripped up even the Indians batsman struggled the only diff was the biased umpires helped them
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07/03/2021 10:57:34 1 3
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Time to stop whining and start winning .
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07/03/2021 09:48:49 13 29
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He is a moody little girl when things go against him and tries everything to get his own way. His behaviour in New Zealand was a disgrace and getting a good hiding might have had something to do with that. The New Zealanders will have noted that and he won't get away with throwing a hissy fit as he won't be in his own backyard. Would love to see the Kiwi's beat India and think they will.
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07/03/2021 10:50:33 8 17
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I too get the impression that Kohli is a bit of a spoiled brat. He reminds me of a certain Donald Trump, (although I admit he probably has more talent in his little finger than that nincompoop) in that his demanding persona and undoubtedly powerful position leads him to tantrums if he doesn’t get his way. My mother would simply have told him “you are not too big to go over my knee my boy”
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07/03/2021 11:38:32 9 9
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Modern India seems to approve of arrogant self-publicists who regard any criticism of them as "heretical" and "unpatriotic". Hence the almighty Modi ! Kohli is, however, simply reflective of the modern cricketer and is, to be fair, an ideal captain for his country.
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07/03/2021 11:38:53 22 3
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to compare Kohli with Donald trump is like comparing Mohammad Ali with Kim Kardashian. Kohli is just an expressive person who does stupid things sometimes similar to other fiery athletes. If you look at his one pitch behavior its 90/10 (90% likeable, 10% arrogant). But the 90% behavior is actually very good and good for our sport. He is overall a nice chap just a tad bit aggressive like Aussies
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07/03/2021 16:32:24 6 1
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well your mom aint playing cricket, although if she did she couldn't have done worse than England
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07/03/2021 10:50:47 1 0
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Yes, now is England's chance. They have never made secret of their preference for the shorter form of the game. As against test cricket.

The shorter the better. New British innovation 2-over game coming soon.
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07/03/2021 10:51:56 2 3
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Kohli will be brought back to earth wi a bump when his real face the ABs in the test champ final at lords

Southern, bolt and Jamieson will be too much for them Ona sealers wicket

Bring it on. 3m v 1.3b. Just shows how amazing the kiwis are at sport when cricket isn’t even their national game
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07/03/2021 11:03:14 0 0
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You won't be posting if you're wrong though. So you're irrelevant. Go and place a £200 bet on NZ and show us the betting slip. Hmm
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07/03/2021 10:45:40 23 8
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A good Indian side but far from a great test side, would have been spanked by a Clive Lloyd or Steve Waugh side.
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Stop posting rubbish. Waugh's team lost in India and drew in Aus. Stop posting rubbish. Ask Clive Lloyd about the only team that stood up to WI. They still sing songs about Gavaskar. Removed
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07/03/2021 10:52:28 4 4
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India are world class.England are a shambles put Strauss and Stewart in charge sack Giles Silverwood and Ed Smith
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07/03/2021 12:37:16 0 0
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Strauss yes; Stewart, for all his great courage and batting ability, never came across as having much nous at international level.
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07/03/2021 10:33:42 44 33
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At least English conditions allow for a fair contest between bat and ball. That India handled their own conditions better is unquestioned. England lack front line spinners and made daft selection mistakes. But the wickets were not fit for three day county cricket let alone tests. The shock of the first test defeat led India to prepare ridiculous wickets which they knew they could handle better.
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England don't prepare green tops for its own benefit? Reality is test match cricket has inherent bias for all home teams. Its just a reality of geological conditions. India is a dry and hot country with sandy soil, you’d have thought they’d have figured that out after 200 years of illegal occupation in India. Now put your sour grapes away and acknowledge that the table doesn't lie. Removed
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07/03/2021 09:45:02 5 17
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So much rubbish about the pitches and about Kohli. England cannot bat to save their lives and havent been able to bat for about 5 years now. When a starting 11 has only 1 player with an average above the 30's then you know your batting team is no good. England bowlers have worked wonders over the years just to keep us in games. I would kill to have a player like Kohli in the England team.
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07/03/2021 10:52:46 3 1
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could have sworn crawley scored a double ton last summer ! also if england cant bat how come they beat sri lanka , w i , and pakistan and s africa before this series ?
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07/03/2021 10:34:50 1 0
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"World Test Championship" is the sort of thing sports administrators with too much power and not enough accountability dream up. (See also FIFA World Club Cup.)

The way to have a Test World Cup would be to get the Top Six teams together for a whole summer to play each other in a league.
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07/03/2021 10:53:04 0 0
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Sounds very practical. Test matches in the snow.
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07/03/2021 10:30:43 4 2
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apart from siraj the indian attack is the same as last time , when they were thrashed 4-1
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dgj
07/03/2021 10:53:05 4 2
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Bumrah has improved markedly since then.
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07/03/2021 10:53:30 5 5
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The outcome of the tests proves you need neutral umpires simple
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07/03/2021 11:03:48 3 2
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Please look at the number of times umpire decisions were overturned by DRS, then make such bold statements.
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07/03/2021 11:32:56 1 1
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Agree, Ironically if it had been in England our umpires in there overwhelming desire not to appear biased would have favored the opposition.