Budget 2021: Four things missing from Rishi Sunak
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Where was the help for the environment, social care, renters, and to cover the future costs of Covid?
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Diana Moon Glampers
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It's shocking that long overdue adult social care reform has been kicked into the long grass yet again - this year of all years. The government must get a handle on this.
Hopefully it will. But there is a lot to 'get a handle on' at the moment.
Were you a Covid Cultist demanding lock-down? IF so then every time you look in a mirror think about why no reform. You destroyed an economy and young lives with lock-downs as we & the rest of Europe are discovering.
The test and trace system will have cost 37 billion by the end of this annual budget
The total amount of cuts to health and social care by the end of this year: 30 Billion
So they’ve cut the NHS and handed the money to a company run by a tory MP who is married to another tory…. Can any of the Tory sycophants defend this?
The total amount of cuts to health and social care by the end of this year: 30 Billion
So they’ve cut the NHS and handed the money to a company run by a tory MP who is married to another tory…. Can any of the Tory sycophants defend this?
Who says that it has been locked into the long grass. I would rather HMG took a considered approach to a thorny (& very expensive) problem than a knee jerk reaction. Let's get over the immediate crisis & see what happens once everyone is jabbed.
"And so I am announcing now on the steps of Downing Street that we will fix the crisis in social care once and for all with a clear plan we have prepared. To give every older person the dignity and security they deserve. That is the work that begins immediately behind that black door". Boris Johnson, 24 July 2019.
"Clear plan", apparently. Already prepared. But not implemented.
"Clear plan", apparently. Already prepared. But not implemented.
You're right, this is the real elephant in the room made more apparent by the c19 pandemic. Remains to be seen whether this government will try a cross party solution to solve it once and for all or once again duck the issue and kick it into the next parliament. IMO they need to ring fence a dedicated tax for it as per other countries; Issue is treasury won't agree to it. It tie's their hands.
But Boris told us twice, firstly on being made party leader and after being elected PM that he had a plan to fix social care.
Can we now start to say with a very high dregree of certainty that he lied to his party and the electorate - there was never a plan?
Can we now start to say with a very high dregree of certainty that he lied to his party and the electorate - there was never a plan?
The two big shortfalls are Care in the community particularly joined up thinking around mental health and care post hospital. The rental trap is huge and so many are unable to get on the housing ladder. Young people have no hope at this time because they are trapped in rental costs. Offering a 95% mortgage is of little value is one cant save the 5% deposit. We are in danger of losing a generation
I thought it was a pretty decent budget. But yes, we need house prices to fall and BTL to become an unattractive investment model.
The minute the Covid Cult opted for lock-down was when we condemned a couple of Generations to save the very old and very ill, people that Pfizer pointed out died anyway which is why their vaccine didn't kill 33 Norwegians.
Offering government guarantees for private mortgages is nothing more than corporate socialism.
Yet again the Tories are socialising corporate losses for companies.
The ordinary people who default on the mortgages will go bankrupt, but the companies will suffer no loses for reckless lending. It is asking for another banking crisis, no risks to the banks, the bailout is guaranteed.
Yet again the Tories are socialising corporate losses for companies.
The ordinary people who default on the mortgages will go bankrupt, but the companies will suffer no loses for reckless lending. It is asking for another banking crisis, no risks to the banks, the bailout is guaranteed.
Blame those who had more children than their replacement value-2 children!
Budget 2021: Four things missing from Rishi Sunak
Budget 2021: Four things that were in the budget
Tax rises
Massive public debt
Rising unemployment
And a pack of lies spun to look positive and optimistic.
Budget 2021: Four things that were in the budget
Tax rises
Massive public debt
Rising unemployment
And a pack of lies spun to look positive and optimistic.
Massive poll lead for the Conservatives this morning. So not many voters agree with you.
Would you have preferred a budget from a Socialist Corbyn/McDonnell government?
One wonders why us patriotic pensioners will deserve an inflation plus triple lock pay rise when nurses will not. There are more pensioners than NHS staff.
NHS staff are some of the best paid medical staff in the world. And they conveniently forget their incredibly generous pensions and their annual incremental pay rises when they are bleating.
You mean the NHS are mercenaries not saints? They only do it for the money? Who'd have guessed
Inflation will be well north of 3% by September ,when they set the pension rises.
When did the BBC become part of the official opposition?
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
Shooting the messenger is such a tedious and boring way of deflecting from a point. It's pretty much all you righties do nowadays.
The BBC is run by a Tory and show the corrupt, lying government in the best light that they can. Despite having a PM who's main pass time is rubbing a balloon on his hair and lobbing bungs to his chums.
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The BBC is the most sycophantic TV outlet around, it like the rest of the right wing press skims over most of the government failures.
Indeed independent analysis has shown that the BBC shows significant bias towards the Tories, not against them.
But I suppose it serves it's purpose for Tory apologists to pretend otherwise as it prevents some from realising the bias is actually pro-Tory.
Indeed independent analysis has shown that the BBC shows significant bias towards the Tories, not against them.
But I suppose it serves it's purpose for Tory apologists to pretend otherwise as it prevents some from realising the bias is actually pro-Tory.
No extra money for the NHS, Social Care, Education, these are all political choices.
Apparently though we can afford £37bn for failed Track and Trace, tax breaks for people to stick £20k p.a. into ISA's, no changes to CGT or IHT and increased spending on defence to bomb people. Not to mention triple lock for some benefits (biggest element) but not for all........
Apparently though we can afford £37bn for failed Track and Trace, tax breaks for people to stick £20k p.a. into ISA's, no changes to CGT or IHT and increased spending on defence to bomb people. Not to mention triple lock for some benefits (biggest element) but not for all........
You are posting in the wrong HYS, though to be fair, the BBC hasn't opened up one on the EU's refusing to export vaccines to Oz, though they bought them. Well at least when I posted this no HYS. I can understand why, the EU is getting hammered on Euronews and they are usually even more Europhilic than the BBC.
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A tax break to put £20k into an ISA? I've already paid 40% tax on that income, so why should I pay tax on it again?
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
Amazon pay their taxes under the UK tax law. The Tories want a low tax low regulation economy. The lack of change in the budget just reinforces this.
USA said no. Also there is no incentive for the UK to tax them as they will pass the cost to the consumer. Don't worry about Amazon worry about Rees moggs et al.
Delusional nonsense.
Read more widely - there is an active debate going on between all Western countries on a consistant tax regime for on-line sales - all countries (except the USA) have the same problem. Even the USA is considering breaking-up Amazon and other massive monopolies.
Amazon and Luxembourg - but the EU doesn't believe it is a tax-haven.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
That was not a shortfall.
I think that was entirely intentional.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/new-chancellor-rishi-sunak-challenged-over-hedge-fund-past
I think that was entirely intentional.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/new-chancellor-rishi-sunak-challenged-over-hedge-fund-past
Amazon has been going for 25+ years, no Chancellor has done anything.
Agree entirely however it would be very foolish of us to take unilateral action. All countries need to agree the way forward and change in tax regimes that is the problem.
You do realise that any tax on Amazon would mean higher costs for the consumer
Don't forgot that they treat there employees poorly and if they didn't, they would be uneconomical and bankrupt.
Why do we support an industry that should of gone out of business years ago
Why do we support an industry that should of gone out of business years ago
Amazon are just one example tax loop holes, the richest family in Scotland is alleged to have 4.32billion in off-shore accounts and the entire alcohol industry £ trillions. Meanwhile Diageo are about to cash in on free hydrogen energy, paid in part by UK taxpayer!
Plain wrong. To target Amazon. Vast numbers sell on line now. Many cheaper. I have had items I was looking for be offered for less from a German shop, another time from some Eastern European retailer. UK retail in shops have been ripping us off for generations while we had no other options. They want those greedy bad days back. Well they can forget it!
Silent on the impacts of Barrier Brexit - the world's first 'lose-lose' FTA.
Brexit is done. we will never rejoin the EU. Put your energy into backing Britain, if you live here and are British.
Brexit is excellent and the EU is currently showing all the world why the UK is the place to do business NOT the EU. Vaccine exports anyone? Not in the EU, they weaponised vaccines upsetting US, Canada, Japan & now Oz. Good work Ursula. Europeans won't accept the AZ vaccine thanks to EU lies about it. What a debacle, lucky we are out, & now the EU are delaying the deal! Fox was right!
Oh I don't know that it is lose-lose...
The EU gained £1.6T per year of financial services business on 1/1/21 with all the jobs, and taxes that generates. They have also seen trade move away from UK ports to bypass the blocks on reaching the EU and into EU ports, along with thousands of jobs that have relocated from the UK into the EU, so a definite win for the EU, just the UK that keeps losing.
The EU gained £1.6T per year of financial services business on 1/1/21 with all the jobs, and taxes that generates. They have also seen trade move away from UK ports to bypass the blocks on reaching the EU and into EU ports, along with thousands of jobs that have relocated from the UK into the EU, so a definite win for the EU, just the UK that keeps losing.
And oh yes, the EU is looking like it is going to disintegrate soon. It might go back to being a sensible trading arrangement then, rather than an out of control political monstrosity.
Unending Remaoner whinges. The Brexit vote was nearly five yers ago.
Surely the 'Truth' was missing from the budget, despite Rishi's claims of being honest.
When the IFS, The Resolution Foundation and the head of the Treasury's own independent forecasting body are questioning whether it's possible to deliver what Sunak says, you know he's fibbing.
Free-market think tanks and the Centre for Policy Studies are also attacking him.
Not such a good budget after all.
When the IFS, The Resolution Foundation and the head of the Treasury's own independent forecasting body are questioning whether it's possible to deliver what Sunak says, you know he's fibbing.
Free-market think tanks and the Centre for Policy Studies are also attacking him.
Not such a good budget after all.
80 seat majority. And looking to increase that at the next GE. You are in a small minority. Post as many times as you like online, but the truth is at the ballot box.
Anti-Conservatives always claim to be more honest then everybody else, just as Remainers always claim to be more intelligent than Brexit voters.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
Guess who works for Amazon
Better than the EU, Amazon and Luxembourg though Kitty.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
Indeed, and Amazon are likely to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of changes announced in the budget. Meanwhile the NHS are getting an effective pay cut to pay for those give aways to the foreign tax dodging corporations.
If we increased fuel duty and road tax for vans Amazon would have to pay a bit more to their subbies.
Amazon, Uber, Deliveroo, Just Eat and similar are all margin hoovers - sucking gross profit from their 'partner' suppliers. We have a desperate need to increase our tax take so we must find a way to keep gross profit in the country. When you add the falling road fuel duty as electrification increases they must find an alternative way to tax deliveries. An online delivery tax has to come soon.
Four things missing:
Increased VAT
Decreased benefits
Stopping furlough
Increased fuel tax
Increased VAT
Decreased benefits
Stopping furlough
Increased fuel tax
Yes. In these so say green times it is bizarre that fuel duty has been frozen for a decade. Most would understand tuppence a litre on petrol and thruppence on diesel.
A five year election cycle means short term thinking (or long term promises they know they're unlikely to have to keep).
It will never change unless decision making is handed to cross party teams, or experts (doctors running the NHS, teachers running schools) etc.
It will never change unless decision making is handed to cross party teams, or experts (doctors running the NHS, teachers running schools) etc.
Very EU, forget democracy let the experts decide - look what that 'expert' Prof Ferguson has done - ironic he has predicted Armageddon thanks to a virus twice before and demanded lock-downs twice before. Now we have the data it seems even this virus was a con - how can you have more covid deaths than excess deaths while having the NHS closed for a year? Or is the NHS lethal?
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Not cross party teams; subject experts.
When my car breaks down I don't call a democratic vote on which service to do and which parts to replace. I call an engineer and only instruct him "make the car work again".
When my car breaks down I don't call a democratic vote on which service to do and which parts to replace. I call an engineer and only instruct him "make the car work again".
I agree. UK political decision-making became short-term in the 70's when governments might only last a few months. We have independent pay review bodies for public sector workers already.
how can anybody sensibly think the NHS should be run by doctors or schools run by teachers?! Most of the very real problems in the public sector are directly because they are run by non professionals. Doctors should be seeing patients and teachers teaching. Proffesional managers should listen and understand before giving frontline workers the tools they need.
Totally agree. So many decisions are now out with the term of a parliament in terms of its benefits that not government will do anything other than tinker. EG NHS, roads, railways, defence, environment. These are all long term projects 10 to 20 years so no one is going to really get hold of it. The structure of government is no longer fit for purpose in this modern world.
And criminals running prisons also inmates running asylums I suppose.
You are right. Our politics is too partisan for long term solutions. Each side wants to undermine the other.
The realisation that we cannot subsidise everyone and everything appears very slow to dawn.
If any Politician says they are being honest you really have to worry
Really.
How many elections have the Evil Tories won recently?
The English public can't get enough of their dishonesty.
How many elections have the Evil Tories won recently?
The English public can't get enough of their dishonesty.
Rishi Sunak missed a huge opportunity to have a Government Investment Bond similar to the Bonds we had in the previous World Wars. This would generate huge money to invest in jobs particularly in manufacturing and housing so we can address the huge housing problems we have. We need to refocus our economy as we are so reliant on services. We have a highly skilled work force so use and invest in it
What do people want more money and high taxes
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A good balanced budget, even it means I will pay more tax. What we don’t need is Labour demanding pubic sector pay rises when millions in the private sector have lost jobs and businesses are destroyed. I would gladly swap for a safe public sector job with a tidy safe pension!
Crack on then Richard nowt stopping you, hope you get the PPE you need so you're not putting your life on the line
one word to this gov - disgrace
Isn’t the biggest issue that our nhs staff are getting naff all
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
I wouldn’t mind if it were performance related by chasing those tax evaders hiding OUR money in offshore accounts.
It is worth remembering WE create the environment where THEY are able to make money which is for society at large??
It is worth remembering WE create the environment where THEY are able to make money which is for society at large??
What about their automatic incremental rises, you know, the ones they try and keep quiet about to make out they are hard done by.
The test and trace system will have cost 37 billion by the end of this annual budget
The total amount of cuts to health and social care by the end of this year: 30 Billion
So they’ve cut the NHS and handed the money to a company run by a tory MP who is married to another tory….
The total amount of cuts to health and social care by the end of this year: 30 Billion
So they’ve cut the NHS and handed the money to a company run by a tory MP who is married to another tory….
Freedom. You are wrong. HMRC has had six years of pay freezes since 2011. The increases are to the pay bill, not pay rates.
Since abolishing increments in 2012 staff have been unable to move from tge minimum to the maximum of pay scales.
For instance one Executive Officer could be paid £28,000 and another £24,000 .
So the former now gets 1% and the latter 10% to help address the disparity.
Since abolishing increments in 2012 staff have been unable to move from tge minimum to the maximum of pay scales.
For instance one Executive Officer could be paid £28,000 and another £24,000 .
So the former now gets 1% and the latter 10% to help address the disparity.
Nurses deserve an above-inflation increase - I think many of us support that claim.
However, the The Royal College of Nursing is proposing to strike over the issue. That is a very bad move and would lose a lot of the support that the public currently have for nurses.
However, the The Royal College of Nursing is proposing to strike over the issue. That is a very bad move and would lose a lot of the support that the public currently have for nurses.
NHS staff just voted for a nice increase 2 years ago!
I'd rather see lower paid delivery drivers get an increase.
They've kept working, allowing us to stay at home more, and without the aid of PPE.
I'd rather see lower paid delivery drivers get an increase.
They've kept working, allowing us to stay at home more, and without the aid of PPE.
The whole deal is worth 13% over 3 years, most of it is to fix problems caused by the last 10 years of pay cuts and pay progression stagnation. People should be paid the rate for the job, not languish for years on a progression system.
But isn't it typical of the Tory Bots to start the red herring and to pit pleb v pleb to shift the blame from the Tories onto other workers?!
But isn't it typical of the Tory Bots to start the red herring and to pit pleb v pleb to shift the blame from the Tories onto other workers?!
1% is the inflation component on top of which there will be individual performance, grade changes and promotion rises. So overall many in the NHS/public sector get substantially more. In comparison private sector does not pay inflation related rises, only performance or promotion related rises so not across the board. I hate the way news publishes this stuff - lack clarity.
He's not wrong, they are following the UK law, but its that law that is the problem and is something the tories aren't trying to rectify. which was a view re-inforced by this budget.
Ok no where else to say this... but wouldn’t it be “nice” to be able to give nhs workers a bigger increase than the 1%, but there is so much less money going into the tax system. There are many others workers who have worked through this pandemic and in their own way have continued to pay taxes, add to the economy, support people working from home etc. They aren’t getting a pay increase! Fair?
No money
Have it to Hmrc staff
Have it to Hmrc staff
A good balanced budget, even it means I will pay more tax. What we don’t need is Labour demanding pubic sector pay rises when millions in the private sector have lost jobs and businesses are destroyed. I would gladly swap for a safe public sector job with a tidy safe pension!
What did you expect? He's a Tory and if you think this is bad, wait until he's Prime Minister.
When he is Prime Minister, with an even bigger majority than Boris, and other parties become irrelevant.
What I expect from Tories is fiscal competence, and an absence of class warfare, and this is what we have got.
4 things that were missing from the budget:
1. Honesty
2. Probity
3. Fiscal competence
4. Respect for nurses, doctors and the people who have worked to keep the UK together.
1. Honesty
2. Probity
3. Fiscal competence
4. Respect for nurses, doctors and the people who have worked to keep the UK together.
Rishi Sunak will be your Prime Minister one day. I hope you enjoy serving under him. :-)
I can think of a few things that are missing from your comment, but I will mention just one - truth.
When did the BBC become part of the official opposition?
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
Social care.
Social care funding.
social care provision.
Closing tax loopholes.
Social care funding.
social care provision.
Closing tax loopholes.
Closing tax loopholes......?
You would struggle to find a Tory not offshoring or using “Trust funds “ to avoid tax.
Including of course our new hero of the hour ..step forward Rishi Sunak.
Trust funds exist to launder money or avoid tax.
There’s nothing quite as sad as watching taxpayers vote for tax dodgers to look after their money.
You would struggle to find a Tory not offshoring or using “Trust funds “ to avoid tax.
Including of course our new hero of the hour ..step forward Rishi Sunak.
Trust funds exist to launder money or avoid tax.
There’s nothing quite as sad as watching taxpayers vote for tax dodgers to look after their money.
A five year election cycle means short term thinking (or long term promises they know they're unlikely to have to keep).
It will never change unless decision making is handed to cross party teams, or experts (doctors running the NHS, teachers running schools) etc.
It will never change unless decision making is handed to cross party teams, or experts (doctors running the NHS, teachers running schools) etc.
Very EU, forget democracy let the experts decide - look what that 'expert' Prof Ferguson has done - ironic he has predicted Armageddon thanks to a virus twice before and demanded lock-downs twice before. Now we have the data it seems even this virus was a con - how can you have more covid deaths than excess deaths while having the NHS closed for a year? Or is the NHS lethal?
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Looks like you read Pravda too much and just spout lies and rubbish at will
Also, not a single 'flu death this winter, according to PHE? Remarkable. And also totally unbelievable when the annual average is 5,000. How dumb do they think we are?
The current approach means decisions are populist, and designed to keep the current party in power, favourably targeting those mostly likely to re-elect them.
It's the current short termism I view as most harmful.
It's the current short termism I view as most harmful.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
Sadly after 40 plus years of grade inflation and almost mandatory uni admissions we don't have a highly skilled workforce just one that has a load of meaningless and unreal qualifications.
meaningless and unreal qualifications. with those they could become the next PM
And probably the only reason Labour get any votes at all. There are too many ill informed and lacking in life experience students nowl When people join the real world and take on responsibilities, they vote Conservative. :-)
But they're all Marxists/Commies according to the DM...........
Oh and a fifth thing. No mention of all the extra spending needed to cover up brexit.
When he negotiated and signed his deal did he intend to renege on it or did he just not understand what his brexit it meant?
When he negotiated and signed his deal did he intend to renege on it or did he just not understand what his brexit it meant?
It's shocking that long overdue adult social care reform has been kicked into the long grass yet again - this year of all years. The government must get a handle on this.
Yes Mr Sunak said it was best dealt with "cross party agreement". The Labour Party confirmed there had been no contact on the subject. So the current Tories aren't even interested in starting the conversation that might bring some solutions to the table.
I won't hold my breath.
I won't hold my breath.
Yeh like the flat boris and his misses live in £30.000 public money and a top up from the COVID contract pals
The two big shortfalls are Care in the community particularly joined up thinking around mental health and care post hospital. The rental trap is huge and so many are unable to get on the housing ladder. Young people have no hope at this time because they are trapped in rental costs. Offering a 95% mortgage is of little value is one cant save the 5% deposit. We are in danger of losing a generation
It seems to me that BTL is there because interest rates are virtually nil, so that pension savings as income, are very low. If interest rates were something like 12%, which they have been in the past, BTL would not be so attractive, but mortgages would be very expensive. Swings and roundabouts.
Well they’re your party of choice.
Share some of that grown up wisdom that you are so blessed with, with them why don’t you.
Well of course they don’t really know/ care who you are.
You are one single vote ,just like the rest of us.
Unfortunately for me ...you lot , Trump enthusiasts , Johnson apologists are in the ascendancy.
Decent politicians have been buried beneath the tidal wave of populism.
Share some of that grown up wisdom that you are so blessed with, with them why don’t you.
Well of course they don’t really know/ care who you are.
You are one single vote ,just like the rest of us.
Unfortunately for me ...you lot , Trump enthusiasts , Johnson apologists are in the ascendancy.
Decent politicians have been buried beneath the tidal wave of populism.
Silent on the impacts of Barrier Brexit - the world's first 'lose-lose' FTA.
They said we'd never leave. Brexiteers are a bit nervous about it since Bojo's deal is falling apart.
We will, you'll just not be around to see it, tick tock
Unfunny tory clown.
What does that actually mean, we actually have virtually no Manufacturing Base, what are we to back? Services Coffee and Cakes Financial Gamblers in the City like Sunak, methinks we are on the steady track to a third world Economy, many of my Conservative friends are going to France to live. Like Lord Lawson and Boris's father.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
An entirely predictable comment from a deluded spouter of nonsense
Really !
Amongst G20 this is not the Case
Which is why so many emigrate to Australia and Canada and USA
Amongst G20 this is not the Case
Which is why so many emigrate to Australia and Canada and USA
Seem to have heard that their incredibly generous pensions have need drastically reduced, and many did not get increments during during austerity.
On the other hand pensioners have longer holidays, more property and cannot be made redundant.
One foolish argument deserves another.
Where do you stand on the triple lock?
On the other hand pensioners have longer holidays, more property and cannot be made redundant.
One foolish argument deserves another.
Where do you stand on the triple lock?
Absolute rubbish. I'm amazed you have a forelock left to tug.
Budget 2021: Four things missing from Rishi Sunak
Budget 2021: Four things that were in the budget
Tax rises
Massive public debt
Rising unemployment
And a pack of lies spun to look positive and optimistic.
Budget 2021: Four things that were in the budget
Tax rises
Massive public debt
Rising unemployment
And a pack of lies spun to look positive and optimistic.
Only England gives the Evil Tories a majority.
And then the Evil Tories deliver misery to them again and again.
Go figure.
I blame the Super Rich owned Right Wing Hate Press daily promoting right wing tripe myself.
Then again for hundreds of years England though aristocratic rule by a few lords and grinding poverty for their many serfs was "normal life".
And then the Evil Tories deliver misery to them again and again.
Go figure.
I blame the Super Rich owned Right Wing Hate Press daily promoting right wing tripe myself.
Then again for hundreds of years England though aristocratic rule by a few lords and grinding poverty for their many serfs was "normal life".
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Given the main demographic that the BBC appeals to there will be utter disbelief that the Conservatives remain so much more popular than Labour.
That’s because there are a lot of selfish greedy herberts about who couldn’t give a flying duck at a ring donut about their fellow men and women, and you fit the bill perfectly.
Surely the 'Truth' was missing from the budget, despite Rishi's claims of being honest.
When the IFS, The Resolution Foundation and the head of the Treasury's own independent forecasting body are questioning whether it's possible to deliver what Sunak says, you know he's fibbing.
Free-market think tanks and the Centre for Policy Studies are also attacking him.
Not such a good budget after all.
When the IFS, The Resolution Foundation and the head of the Treasury's own independent forecasting body are questioning whether it's possible to deliver what Sunak says, you know he's fibbing.
Free-market think tanks and the Centre for Policy Studies are also attacking him.
Not such a good budget after all.
Basing your attack on me on an assumption.
You couldn't be more wrong.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Unfortunately the First Past the Post voting system in the UK means that many people's votes don't count for much. The huge Tory majority in 2019 came from just 43.6% of the vote.
I have just received a letter from my local council about a 1.5% rent increase from 5 April. I would imagine this is the same for so many people. What difference does a 1% pay rise make for NHS staff?
Ok no where else to say this... but wouldn’t it be “nice” to be able to give nhs workers a bigger increase than the 1%, but there is so much less money going into the tax system. There are many others workers who have worked through this pandemic and in their own way have continued to pay taxes, add to the economy, support people working from home etc. They aren’t getting a pay increase! Fair?
When did the BBC become part of the official opposition?
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
Silent on the impacts of Barrier Brexit - the world's first 'lose-lose' FTA.
Brexit is excellent and the EU is currently showing all the world why the UK is the place to do business NOT the EU. Vaccine exports anyone? Not in the EU, they weaponised vaccines upsetting US, Canada, Japan & now Oz. Good work Ursula. Europeans won't accept the AZ vaccine thanks to EU lies about it. What a debacle, lucky we are out, & now the EU are delaying the deal! Fox was right!
And I need a new fence for my garden..... still, can't have everything.....
You can have a fence though.
Hence my fence was destroyed during a fencing duel with a fence whose defence was offensive.
As expected the Tories asked to clap and eat out to spread it about but now they gave zilch to the NHS workers who have worked tirelessly through this pandemic. But ask Boris's mates how they are doing. All still the same with the UK. Divide the country and offer excuses. Makes British people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Until the house bubble bursts again
Tories doing okay politically though. 13% poll lead over Labour, and rising further:
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/04/voting-intention-con-45-lab-32-3-4-mar?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=voting_intention
To be fair, this is a fantastic performance under the circumstances. Unequivocal vindication.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/04/voting-intention-con-45-lab-32-3-4-mar?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=voting_intention
To be fair, this is a fantastic performance under the circumstances. Unequivocal vindication.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
Amazon and Luxembourg - but the EU doesn't believe it is a tax-haven.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
Typical bbc always on the side of spending away taxes like they live on. Now running these areas wanting ever more money.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
The BBC is run by a Tory, so stop blaming them for trying to make the clown party look nearly sane, but nearly impossible given how dreadful the clueless, sleazy greedy Tory party are. It's an incredibly difficult job with out more Tory whinging
No, you are dead wrong. NHS staff are very poorly paid!
Civil Service Admin Assistants had to be given a 7% rise to avoid being below minimum wage regulations.
Better than the EU, Amazon and Luxembourg though Kitty.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/17/why-doesn-t-the-eu-consider-luxembourg-a-tax-haven
I have just received a letter from my local council about a 1.5% rent increase from 5 April. I would imagine this is the same for so many people. What difference does a 1% pay rise make for NHS staff?
So serve them a plate of faeces and tell them to eat up and be grateful as they could be getting nothing? Brother, you are a Tory's wet dream.
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Surely it’s 5 things the Chancellor omitted. How many billions is Brexit costing us? Or is that hidden in the billions elsewhere?
That's easy. Sunak said Covid cost £297 billion in 20/21 but the small print shows borrowing increased by £483 billion. Last year he expected to borrow £35 billion and we took £6 billion of student loans on, so the difference of £155 billion is the Brexit cost.
Remoaners never cease.
Silent on the impacts of Barrier Brexit - the world's first 'lose-lose' FTA.
Oh I don't know that it is lose-lose...
The EU gained £1.6T per year of financial services business on 1/1/21 with all the jobs, and taxes that generates. They have also seen trade move away from UK ports to bypass the blocks on reaching the EU and into EU ports, along with thousands of jobs that have relocated from the UK into the EU, so a definite win for the EU, just the UK that keeps losing.
The EU gained £1.6T per year of financial services business on 1/1/21 with all the jobs, and taxes that generates. They have also seen trade move away from UK ports to bypass the blocks on reaching the EU and into EU ports, along with thousands of jobs that have relocated from the UK into the EU, so a definite win for the EU, just the UK that keeps losing.
80 seat majority. And looking to increase that at the next GE. You are in a small minority. Post as many times as you like online, but the truth is at the ballot box.
Massive pol lead for the Conservatives this morning. Rishi has done an excellent job. Labour only have one decent politician, their leader, who gets more Tory Lite every day.
And I need a new fence for my garden..... still, can't have everything.....
No extra money for the NHS, Social Care, Education, these are all political choices.
Apparently though we can afford £37bn for failed Track and Trace, tax breaks for people to stick £20k p.a. into ISA's, no changes to CGT or IHT and increased spending on defence to bomb people. Not to mention triple lock for some benefits (biggest element) but not for all........
Apparently though we can afford £37bn for failed Track and Trace, tax breaks for people to stick £20k p.a. into ISA's, no changes to CGT or IHT and increased spending on defence to bomb people. Not to mention triple lock for some benefits (biggest element) but not for all........
You are posting in the wrong HYS, though to be fair, the BBC hasn't opened up one on the EU's refusing to export vaccines to Oz, though they bought them. Well at least when I posted this no HYS. I can understand why, the EU is getting hammered on Euronews and they are usually even more Europhilic than the BBC.
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Politico is quite amusing too at the moment. Another broadly pro EU publication that is highlighting all the divisions and bickering in the EU.
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I don't think their funding is exhausted yet.
“So last year...please move on”
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So you think it only takes a year to come to terms with Brexit? Even JRM would disagree with you there.
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So you think it only takes a year to come to terms with Brexit? Even JRM would disagree with you there.
"So last year...please move on"
Brexit supporters spent 50 years not moving on!
And now that they got their way, they get narked every time one of the many downsides gets pointed out.
Brexit supporters spent 50 years not moving on!
And now that they got their way, they get narked every time one of the many downsides gets pointed out.
Oh I don't think so.
last year, and next and the year after...
Just wait for things to really kick off in/over NI ...
Johnson and Co either did not read the small print of the deal they signed or did not have a clue what they were actually signing off...
... or did not understand the politics of the province
Hope the troubles are confined to NI (bless them) and do not come to England again
Just wait for things to really kick off in/over NI ...
Johnson and Co either did not read the small print of the deal they signed or did not have a clue what they were actually signing off...
... or did not understand the politics of the province
Hope the troubles are confined to NI (bless them) and do not come to England again
Ok no where else to say this... but wouldn’t it be “nice” to be able to give nhs workers a bigger increase than the 1%, but there is so much less money going into the tax system. There are many others workers who have worked through this pandemic and in their own way have continued to pay taxes, add to the economy, support people working from home etc. They aren’t getting a pay increase! Fair?
These are the same people who chose that occupation and care each for people with flu etc. Also how many within the nhs are the real front hero’s in the red zone areas caring, cleaning, supplying etc...plenty in nhs jumping on title of nhs employed who have contributed less than normal as clinics shut etc. But asking for more cash! Harsh but true many not redeployed to help out!
Massive poll lead for the Conservatives this morning. So not many voters agree with you.
Only England gives the Evil Tories a majority.
And then the Evil Tories deliver misery to them again and again.
Go figure.
I blame the Super Rich owned Right Wing Hate Press daily promoting right wing tripe myself.
Then again for hundreds of years England though aristocratic rule by a few lords and grinding poverty for their many serfs was "normal life".
And then the Evil Tories deliver misery to them again and again.
Go figure.
I blame the Super Rich owned Right Wing Hate Press daily promoting right wing tripe myself.
Then again for hundreds of years England though aristocratic rule by a few lords and grinding poverty for their many serfs was "normal life".
Most voters seem to prefer 'evil' Tories to pointless Labour.
Typo in above post. Its should have read "England thought"
Then again...was England really thinking?
Then again...was England really thinking?
And there we have it... If in doubt, blame the right wing press (or the stupidity/gullibility of the voters, which amounts to the same thing)
Anything to avoid difficult question of how Labour can appeal to voters outside their core metropolitan, middle class & university town constituencies.
Lesson from the referendum; sneering at the voters may help you feel better but it never wins you votes.
Anything to avoid difficult question of how Labour can appeal to voters outside their core metropolitan, middle class & university town constituencies.
Lesson from the referendum; sneering at the voters may help you feel better but it never wins you votes.
Typical bbc always on the side of spending away taxes like they live on. Now running these areas wanting ever more money.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
Populist politicians = a politician doing what the voters want them to.
More rubbish from a Toryboy. He is looked on as a future leader, how very sad for us. But ityno surprise when you look at the small gene pool provided by Brexiteers
Isn’t the biggest issue that our nhs staff are getting naff all
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
There is no incentive related pay at Hmrc
The monies have to come form somewhere to fund everything.
As usual the handful of government haters on here throwing out the same tired old
soundbites, completely oblivious to the fact that the Left are disliked by the vast majority and the Tories will be in power for a long time.
As usual the handful of government haters on here throwing out the same tired old
soundbites, completely oblivious to the fact that the Left are disliked by the vast majority and the Tories will be in power for a long time.
That's all well and good, but how about discussing the points made by the article instead of whining about other posters?
What Planet are you on? Governments and banks simply print money. Tax and interest rates are tools to restrain inflation.
Sunak clearly does not want to restrain inflation.
Sunak clearly does not want to restrain inflation.
As usual Tory fantasists pushing Tory fantasies.
The really funny thing in this case is that the argument they are pushing is exactly the opposite of the one they pushed in 2010 blaming Labour for the cost of bailing out banks...
The Tories have cut down forests of money trees, and seem to intend to cut down many more to fund handouts to Tory cronies...
The really funny thing in this case is that the argument they are pushing is exactly the opposite of the one they pushed in 2010 blaming Labour for the cost of bailing out banks...
The Tories have cut down forests of money trees, and seem to intend to cut down many more to fund handouts to Tory cronies...
The two big shortfalls are Care in the community particularly joined up thinking around mental health and care post hospital. The rental trap is huge and so many are unable to get on the housing ladder. Young people have no hope at this time because they are trapped in rental costs. Offering a 95% mortgage is of little value is one cant save the 5% deposit. We are in danger of losing a generation
Massive poll lead for the Conservatives this morning. So not many voters agree with you.
Rishi Sunak missed out VAT, that during the Brexit debate the two major players, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson promised to scrap VAT on energy bills. They have broken their promise . Red wall left behind voters, deceived again.
https://www.dyballassociates.co.uk/no-plans-to-lower-vat-on-energy-bills-despite-brexit-promises-says-treasury
https://www.dyballassociates.co.uk/no-plans-to-lower-vat-on-energy-bills-despite-brexit-promises-says-treasury
NHS staff are some of the best paid medical staff in the world. And they conveniently forget their incredibly generous pensions and their annual incremental pay rises when they are bleating.
Not many emigrate to the USA because they'd have to retrain for that. Australia they go for the weather and lifestyle. Could you tell me why so many medical staff from the EU and other parts of the world come here to work? Could it be that they earn far more here?
Silent on the impacts of Barrier Brexit - the world's first 'lose-lose' FTA.
Prediction of the EU's imminent demise #300,954.
one word to this gov - disgrace
Who'da thunk it?
A Tanzanian Hindu and former Goldman Sachs banker from Winchester school, married to a billionaires daughter, becoming Prime Minister.
And they say there is no social mobility.
A Tanzanian Hindu and former Goldman Sachs banker from Winchester school, married to a billionaires daughter, becoming Prime Minister.
And they say there is no social mobility.
Unless a person works for the government then they wouldn't be "serving under the PM".
Although it's a very interesting glimpse into your mindset that you think us ordinary folk "serve" under our politicians. It's the mindset of the servile. No wonder you support the Tories, it must come naturally.
Although it's a very interesting glimpse into your mindset that you think us ordinary folk "serve" under our politicians. It's the mindset of the servile. No wonder you support the Tories, it must come naturally.
Best joke all day - like saying Christmas belongs to Santa Claus
You really need to stop being so immature! It's quite pathetic!
You seriously misunderstand Britain, politics and the Tory party if you think that will happen.
Methinks you are a bit of a troll trying to wind folk up with your talk of a Tory one-party state. Run along now, the adults want to have a chat about serious things.
Got a tattoo of him I bet, somewhere that Boris is... think about it.
Rishi Sunak missed a huge opportunity to have a Government Investment Bond similar to the Bonds we had in the previous World Wars. This would generate huge money to invest in jobs particularly in manufacturing and housing so we can address the huge housing problems we have. We need to refocus our economy as we are so reliant on services. We have a highly skilled work force so use and invest in it
Isn’t the biggest issue that our nhs staff are getting naff all
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
How come Hmrc staff getting 3% backdated to June 2020 and then 5% from June 2021 and 5% from June 2022 - in excess of 13% over 3 years and not a single mention anywhere
Increments ceased a while ago
“What about their automatic incremental rises, you know, the ones they try and keep quiet about to make out they are hard done by.”
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How many times does it have to be explained that promotions in the public sector don’t get the full pay rise immediately. It is split into incremental steps.
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How many times does it have to be explained that promotions in the public sector don’t get the full pay rise immediately. It is split into incremental steps.
oh yawn the same anti-tory rants regurgitated over and over.
one wonders how remoaners reconcile their complaints with the fact that voters keep voting for the tories.
capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system and no matter how you try, you can't alter that fact.
one wonders how remoaners reconcile their complaints with the fact that voters keep voting for the tories.
capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system and no matter how you try, you can't alter that fact.
But the Tories must be opposed at every twist and turn. They are funded by the 1% entirely to serve their greedy interests.
To give the NHS a 3% pay rise would cost £775 million. But the party who just borrowed £700 billion says they can't afford it.
No. They continue their dogmatic attack on public services.
To give the NHS a 3% pay rise would cost £775 million. But the party who just borrowed £700 billion says they can't afford it.
No. They continue their dogmatic attack on public services.
They might have a lot of user accounts. But they only have one vote. Actually probably not even that, because so many young people are not registered to vote to save on council tax etc.
Typical bbc always on the side of spending away taxes like they live on. Now running these areas wanting ever more money.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
Let’s be clear and not emotional.
Public sector are exceptionally well paid and pensioned and do not 'deserve' a penny more, certainly not in the dire economic straights we are now in. If you want to pay them more donate your own excessive money to them directly.
Rubbish.
So in the private sector if you do really well or have a really difficult year you sometimes get a one off bonus. How about this for the NHS?. A one off payment of 10% this year in recognition of the tough times with Covid. A 10% bonus would be a relatively small impact on the coffers and not tie us all in to ongoing tax rises in future years.
It's shocking that long overdue adult social care reform has been kicked into the long grass yet again - this year of all years. The government must get a handle on this.
No. A virus which has killed 123,000 of your fellow Britons did that. Do grow up with your silly anti-lockdown Bolsonaroesque drivel.
The failure to address the problem of social care funding goes back way before the Covid crisis. Every government says they are going to solve it, But then they realise every realistic solution will be very unpopular and result in huge negative press (remember the media hysteria about the "dementia tax"??) so they give up and bury it again.
Is Sunak after a job with space X?
When did the BBC become part of the official opposition?
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
The BBC should both criticise and support the govt, accordingly. It is all one way traffic. End the TV tax.
The BBC is the most sycophantic TV outlet around, it like the rest of the right wing press skims over most of the government failures.
Indeed independent analysis has shown that the BBC shows significant bias towards the Tories, not against them.
But I suppose it serves it's purpose for Tory apologists to pretend otherwise as it prevents some from realising the bias is actually pro-Tory.
Indeed independent analysis has shown that the BBC shows significant bias towards the Tories, not against them.
But I suppose it serves it's purpose for Tory apologists to pretend otherwise as it prevents some from realising the bias is actually pro-Tory.
Very EU, forget democracy let the experts decide - look what that 'expert' Prof Ferguson has done - ironic he has predicted Armageddon thanks to a virus twice before and demanded lock-downs twice before. Now we have the data it seems even this virus was a con - how can you have more covid deaths than excess deaths while having the NHS closed for a year? Or is the NHS lethal?
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But they're all Marxists/Commies according to the DM...........
Can we also give praise to the private sector workers who have soldiered on through Covid 19. People like utility company workers, delivery drivers, shop workers etc. If more things were privatised we wouldn't have to pay as much tax as we do. Also, I never heard stories of public sector workers in non-critical roles being furloughed, did you?
If more things were privatised we would just have to pay far more for those same things to private companies to fund the profits of the shareholders and the fat wages of the Tory fat cat directors.
We have seen with the privatised utilities and the likes that the actual cost of services has not gone down, they have gone up, and in many cases gone up massively.
We have seen with the privatised utilities and the likes that the actual cost of services has not gone down, they have gone up, and in many cases gone up massively.
The four things missing.
A- A permanent 30% reduction in business rates.
B- Reducing Employer's Nics to 9%.
C-An online sales turover tax of 1 to 2%.
D- Extension of Council Tax bands to band Z.
A- A permanent 30% reduction in business rates.
B- Reducing Employer's Nics to 9%.
C-An online sales turover tax of 1 to 2%.
D- Extension of Council Tax bands to band Z.
One of the biggest shortfalls was that the Chancellor did nothing to reign in the likes of Amazon which is now a monopoly in so many areas. They do not pay their fair share of tax and have worked so many loopholes with offshore funds etc. They should pay tax based on the revenue they earn within the UK. An online order in the UK should be classed as a UK transaction not Luxembourg.
That was not a shortfall.
I think that was entirely intentional.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/new-chancellor-rishi-sunak-challenged-over-hedge-fund-past
I think that was entirely intentional.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/new-chancellor-rishi-sunak-challenged-over-hedge-fund-past
NHS staff are miffed about a 1% pay rise and yet their union has £35million to spend on industrial action.
Maybe they should reduce their union deductions a percentage or two.
Maybe they should reduce their union deductions a percentage or two.
Oooh wonder how right wing you are
So that they can be more easily walked over by right wing types who hate the very idea of a health service being available for poor people as well as for the rich?...
Nah I think perhaps what they really need is to get a whole lot more militant, being decent and caring is seen as weakness by the Tories, it's time to get militant.
Nah I think perhaps what they really need is to get a whole lot more militant, being decent and caring is seen as weakness by the Tories, it's time to get militant.
So in the private sector if you do really well or have a really difficult year you sometimes get a one off bonus. How about this for the NHS?. A one off payment of 10% this year in recognition of the tough times with Covid. A 10% bonus would be a relatively small impact on the coffers and not tie us all in to ongoing tax rises in future years.
I thought it was a pretty decent budget. But yes, we need house prices to fall and BTL to become an unattractive investment model.
Interest rates are ridiculous. They encourage debt and punish the sensible.
NHS staff are some of the best paid medical staff in the world. And they conveniently forget their incredibly generous pensions and their annual incremental pay rises when they are bleating.
Seem to have heard that their incredibly generous pensions have need drastically reduced, and many did not get increments during during austerity.
On the other hand pensioners have longer holidays, more property and cannot be made redundant.
One foolish argument deserves another.
Where do you stand on the triple lock?
On the other hand pensioners have longer holidays, more property and cannot be made redundant.
One foolish argument deserves another.
Where do you stand on the triple lock?
I think if I worked in the NHS I would take the 1% and run
We won't be able to afford any NHS in 10 years let alone several hundred BLM reporting managers
Those lovely pension promises are going to get ripped up by a future government - if I were the IMF I'd be saying - "what were you thinking you've know this was unsustanable for the 30 years and you did nothing"
We won't be able to afford any NHS in 10 years let alone several hundred BLM reporting managers
Those lovely pension promises are going to get ripped up by a future government - if I were the IMF I'd be saying - "what were you thinking you've know this was unsustanable for the 30 years and you did nothing"
The UK spends far less on the NHS than other developed countries do on their equivalent health systems. & this is despite the Tories having done their best to break the system by breaking it up into trusts and introducing the internal market to add administrative overhead.
So if we can't afford that we will never afford the alternative.
So if we can't afford that we will never afford the alternative.
These are the same people who chose that occupation and care each for people with flu etc. Also how many within the nhs are the real front hero’s in the red zone areas caring, cleaning, supplying etc...plenty in nhs jumping on title of nhs employed who have contributed less than normal as clinics shut etc. But asking for more cash! Harsh but true many not redeployed to help out!