Palace dent West Brom survival hopes
13/03/2021 | sport | football | 482
Luka Milivojevic’s first-half penalty earns Crystal Palace all three points against West Brom, whose survival hopes take a further hit.
A good win for Palace against a Baggies side that cannot hit the target.
The only reason any team would want Big Fat Sam as manager looks like it is coming to the end and it us time to retire him.
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13/03/2021 16:58:32 1 2
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A good win my chuff.
Fat Sam won’t loose any sleep with result he’ll drown his sorrows with a double cheeseburger an fries !!?? Removed
I cannot believe that Palace will still be in Prem next season. Like Covid. Horribly painful. No one should have to go through it again. Removed
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13/03/2021 17:12:45 0 0
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Don’t watch then. There’s a definition of ++++++ity. Keep on doing the same thing the same way expecting a different outcome.
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13/03/2021 17:19:40 0 0
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Ahh, bless - dry your eyes mate...
I mean no offence and I respect Zaha's opinions but had a player of any other colour refused to take the knee and said what Zaha said what would have been the likely outcome? I wonder if our teachers are following all these. Removed
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13/03/2021 17:26:16 67 4
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You are spot on. Identity politics is always wrong and should not be permitted.
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13/03/2021 17:35:35 24 4
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Well done, Wilf. NO POTITICS IN FOOTBALL.
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13/03/2021 17:37:37 44 6
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I agree with Zaha that nobody in football should now be taking the knee, it has run its course. If football wants to do its own anti racism (against discrimination against all races) then do it.
Nobody should feel pressured into doing something that they do not want to do and in this modern climate, pressure is on anyone in the public eye to pretend to be WOKE or ese face cancel culture.
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13/03/2021 17:42:55 3 5
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I guess it depends on why they said they were refusing.
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Roy
13/03/2021 17:43:22 7 8
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Your missing his point and I'm with him on this stand tall I'm over 50 all this raceits shit as to stop I'd say it's no better then the 80ts makes me sick we are all human
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13/03/2021 18:55:31 14 1
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Zaha made the one point worth making. These gestures are meaningless. And it's best a player who's supposed to be a beneficiary makes the statement.
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13/03/2021 21:46:26 4 1
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Absolutely spot on. No mention from the media of the rugby players almost across the board not taking a knee. But they're more educated so their allowed to make their own choice
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14/03/2021 08:37:31 2 0
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They would be vilified, of course. So they have little choice but to go along with it.
Respect to Wilf Zaha for taking the stand prior to kick off.
Sam Allardyce turned up today with one objective that was to score the first goal. When that did not happen there was no plan B. Crystal Palace happy just happy to keep West Brom at arms length. If West Brom had of scored for once Roy had plenty fire power on the bench to hit back.. Palace 99% safe for another Premier League season.
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13/03/2021 20:55:00 4 4
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Isnt everyteams objective to score the first goal?
Nice to see Zaha acting like an adult, shame about the rest. Removed
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13/03/2021 21:43:12 12 0
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Zaha has up to now been taking the knee and was in favour of that. He's simply said that it has lost its power and is taking a different approach in tacking racism. He also respects those who wish to keep taking the knee. It's simply different approaches to the same end, not whether you're adult or not.
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13/03/2021 18:11:21 29 3
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Yes spot on Karma, he's a great lad wilf what a outstanding servant he's been for the PALACE.
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13/03/2021 17:41:07 102 23
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I agree with Zaha as people are being put under pressure to conform to the far lefts over the top WOKE policies. Anyone in the public eye who dares to question it s demonised and this has to be wrong.
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Might have to stop using the BBC full stop. I'm not impressed by the biased reporting, the constant politicisation of the sport, and now, absolutely disgracefully, trying to dig out and shame Zaha. We are not interested in your agendas BBC. This is football and you need a clearout in your ranks, because the once great institution you were, is long gone. Removed
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13/03/2021 18:33:38 26 3
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Well said...
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13/03/2021 21:46:06 1 5
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Use your own full stop rather than the BBC's if you wish.
The BBC is right to highlight Zaha's stand against racism. The BBC aren't shaming him, quite the opposite, they are supporting him in highlighting the issues. And it's done a good job of keeping tackling racism in the spotlight.
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13/03/2021 18:19:08 15 5
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Leave Wilf Zaha alone.

Let him decide what he wants to do.

Shameful reporting
Whoever votes down this is simply mindless and epitomises what’s wrong with football, reporting and much more - you are a sad sad W?? Removed
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Well done Roy, well done Palace and well done to Zaha for sticking to his beliefs and how to show them. Removed
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13/03/2021 22:02:45 2 10
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He's completely missed the point, but he is a football, after all.
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13/03/2021 17:20:14 21 11
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What exactly is the point of West Brom?
Not a lot. There fans are silly speaking people that reside in a dump. Removed
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13/03/2021 21:51:39 2 0
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Big Sam and the board deserve everything that comes their way, but what exactly have the fans done to deserve that kind of statement?
Not the best of matches and well done Zaha for having a mind of his own. Removed
I agree with Zaha. It's all getting rather tedious now. Shaking hands. The Knee. Next the players will be performing a pre-match dance around the Maypole. Removed
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13/03/2021 19:42:21 5 12
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You clearly missed why he stood up. He stood because ignorent people were still being racist and by standing it would make people talk about it again. He didnt do it because it was tedious, its because idiots missed the point of why it was done. Ring any bells with you?
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13/03/2021 19:46:31 2 5
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Maypole? That outdated symbol of pagan imperialist Little Englander white privilege?
I should think not!
Zaha opts not to take the knee. At last someone, & it surprises me who, has some common sense. Well done Zaha & Palace. Good news for West Brom is that they probably won't be playing Birmingham City in the Championship next year Removed
Well done Wilf. It takes a huge amount of courage to do what he did and risk the public wrath of all those 'woke' (misnomer) people. The point he is making is that the knee has become meaningless and more truly effective measures need to be taken to stop the racism. Removed
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13/03/2021 20:21:46 12 1
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Completely agree. And it was a very coherent statement by way of explanation. A great example.
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13/03/2021 20:31:54 0 2
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and whilst stamping out this horrible racism we could also stamp out the vile abuse players give to officials during games.
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13/03/2021 22:04:21 0 4
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No, the courage was to take the knee in the first place.
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13/03/2021 23:11:11 3 0
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The reason taking the knee started in the first place was nothing to do with stopping racism in football, people seem to have forgotten that.

They shifted the goalposts to try and make it mean that after all the hysteria about Floyd was over.
Massive congratulations to Wilf Zaha for his stand against the ridiculous nonsense that is BLM. Great work Wilf Removed
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13/03/2021 22:05:23 3 6
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Great to hear the NF point of view.
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13/03/2021 22:48:41 2 3
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Blimey, talk about missing the point.
I stand with Wilf on this... Removed
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13/03/2021 22:05:58 1 2
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Great courage... Where are you standing?
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13/03/2021 18:35:09 6 28
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Be interesting what the PL do here. It’s an agreed directive to go down on one knee, agreed by the players, and in theory therefore PL should be fining or suspending Zaha.
This is the thing, in the UK we still have freedom of speech and freedom of choice, the thought police do not or should not give any directives, if they want to make a stand then Back Mesut Ozil, instead of throwing him to the Wolves for profit. Removed
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13/03/2021 20:47:58 3 9
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Who are these mysterious “thought Police”?

To which organised and unified group are “they” that you refer, who threw Ozil to the Wolves?

Do you shout at wind?
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13/03/2021 21:57:52 0 2
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Ozil didn't transfer to Wolves.
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13/03/2021 17:49:03 7 15
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You say nobody should be pressured into anything, but then that nobody should be taking the knee (which is completely at odds with what Zaha said FYI).

Individual players should do what they like, including standing or taking the knee if they wish to. Anyone who's more outraged by the knee-taking than the racial abuse dished out each week lately on social media needs to take a look at themselves.
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Well done Zaha. I bet MOTD and Sky don't give you any credit though and continue to comment upon the token taking of the knee Removed
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13/03/2021 21:29:13 7 3
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That's why I cancelled SKY and never watch BEEBS. I refuse to pay for agenda-driven entertainment.
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13/03/2021 23:50:53 2 1
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Fair play to Lineker and MOTD. They got it spot on on covering it and stating Zaha's case. Well done.
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13/03/2021 17:49:03 7 15
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You say nobody should be pressured into anything, but then that nobody should be taking the knee (which is completely at odds with what Zaha said FYI).

Individual players should do what they like, including standing or taking the knee if they wish to. Anyone who's more outraged by the knee-taking than the racial abuse dished out each week lately on social media needs to take a look at themselves.
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Might have to stop using the BBC full stop. I'm not impressed by the biased reporting, the constant politicisation of the sport, and now, absolutely disgracefully, trying to dig out and shame Zaha. We are not interested in your agendas BBC. This is football and you need a clearout in your ranks, because the once great institution you were, is long gone. Removed
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Fat Sam is screwed, have checked their fixture every single one they will lose to they gonna get shafted right till the very end hahahahahaj Removed
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13/03/2021 20:43:15 4 5
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Just the use of the phrase “snowflake” shows a complete lack of individual or original thought, so well done there.

How you think your response is relevant to my previous comment is also beyond me.
I agree with the other poster, racism comes from all colours not just whites. BLM are a Marxist violent political group that want to defund police. WE dont as we like law and order so we do not support them. If football wants to do its own thing against racism from all races then great. Removed
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13/03/2021 21:48:43 3 6
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Racism not limited to colour, but certain groups suffer more than others; no?

BML Marxist? They want eq. respect for people of colour & those repressed. They cross political divide, not exclusively socialist, QED are not Marxist.

Defund Police: reduced money & redirect to community progs. As US approx. ex. 25 cops per 100k than UK, seems doable.

Research a phrase(s) before blithely repeating.
Lets hope that Zaha's refusal to "Take the knee" is the start of the end of this ridiculous ritual & we can just get back to playing football & not politics or racial awareness. I for one am sick of it. BTW that is NOT meant as a racial slur nor am I a racist, but there are better ways to deal with the issue. PLease let fottbal be just that football & not a window for other issues. Removed
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13/03/2021 22:21:01 2 5
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But football is that great tribal activity for a Saturday afternoon where you get to shout abuse for 90 minutes, and a perfect window to educate that part of society that still needs educating. Or would you rather we just left it at 22 grown men chasing a ball around?
The highlight for me was Zaha not taking the knee, well done. Removed
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14/03/2021 10:39:30 0 0
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How sad .
So if some of the players are standing against racism and others are kneeling against racism, what are the players who aren't particularly bothered about racism supposed to do? Removed
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13/03/2021 22:30:49 4 1
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Players are feeling ‘pressured’ into doing it now, which is why I applaud Zara’s stance, and Sir Les Ferdinand said exactly the same months ago.

Time to stop.
You hit the deck a bit too much for my liking, Zaha, but we’ll done for what you did today refusing to take the knee.

I totally applaud you and agree, okay when it started but it’s lost it’s effect now and is starting to look a bit silly.
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13/03/2021 23:53:21 5 1
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In a few weeks the players will all be 'standing up to racism' instead of 'taking the knee'. Zaha was simply swapping one gesture for another, otherwise he would have carried on with his warm-up.
Well done Wilf, guess what BBC people are allowed different views its called Democracy ! Removed
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14/03/2021 10:33:49 0 0
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Democracy? Where the 1% own the means of living. Everything in and on the planet. They own the mass media and educational institutions. That tells us 24 /365 /7 . We live in a democracy. Why have a brain if you don’t use it? We don’t live in a democracy. We live in a dictatorship.
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Zaha's 'standing up to racism' is better as there is no association with BLM but it remains a token gesture. The average football fan does not need the PL to tell him/her that racism is wrong. The action needs to be on the social media sites, not the football field. Removed
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14/03/2021 00:04:36 4 0
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I agree with the last sentence 100% but I admire Zaha for not taking the knee because it implies that he doesn't believe that takng the knee makes any difference and sees the issue as being bigger than assuming a posture.
Well Done Wilf.... literally for taking a stand.

We all got the message after a month of taking the knee. It's an outrage that politicians have not yet acted !

Taking the knee may now be doing more harm than good... especially as some players are also performing the Black Power clenched fist too !

Zaha has given an undeserving FA a way out now.

Has there been a black ref since Uriah Rennie ???
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Zaha's 'standing up to racism' is better as there is no association with BLM but it remains a token gesture. The average football fan does not need the PL to tell him/her that racism is wrong. The action needs to be on the social media sites, not the football field. Removed
Well Done Wilf.... literally for taking a stand.

We all got the message after a month of taking the knee. It's an outrage that politicians have not yet acted !

Taking the knee may now be doing more harm than good... especially as some players are also performing the Black Power clenched fist too !

Zaha has given an undeserving FA a way out now.

Has there been a black ref since Uriah Rennie ???
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14/03/2021 08:27:10 1 0
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Probably not. Have you been to the local park to hear the dog’s abuse refs get (when you could @ctually go)? Why anyone does it is beyond me.
Every nutter and racist bigot seems to be there.
Well played Zaha for standing up for what you believe in and acknowledging the gesture nonsense of taking a knee. Fundamental change requires action, not lip service. Removed
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13/03/2021 22:02:45 2 10
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He's completely missed the point, but he is a football, after all.
It was past your bedtime when you posted. Tell someone to tuck you in earlier, and ask them what racism is. Removed
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13/03/2021 22:21:01 2 5
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But football is that great tribal activity for a Saturday afternoon where you get to shout abuse for 90 minutes, and a perfect window to educate that part of society that still needs educating. Or would you rather we just left it at 22 grown men chasing a ball around?
Nobody needs educating towards Marxist Woke politics, everybody has a right to their own opinions, like respecting the Police for keeping the vulnerable safe and risking their lives. The thought police will never win Removed
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Fool
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13/03/2021 21:19:38 4 2
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Zaha's stand is to make the 'woke' fight against racism more prominent, so you seem to have completely missed the point of his action.
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Racism not limited to colour, but certain groups suffer more than others; no?

BML Marxist? They want eq. respect for people of colour & those repressed. They cross political divide, not exclusively socialist, QED are not Marxist.

Defund Police: reduced money & redirect to community progs. As US approx. ex. 25 cops per 100k than UK, seems doable.

Research a phrase(s) before blithely repeating.
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13/03/2021 21:57:52 0 2
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Ozil didn't transfer to Wolves.
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Zaha deserves praise for not taking the knee and releasing his reasons why he did not take it, I wonder if taking the knee has actually exasperated the problem therefore it is time to stop doing it. Removed
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Ozil didn't transfer to Wolves.
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