Covid vaccines cut risk of serious illness by 80% in over-80s
01/03/2021 | news | health | 2,804
The UK will soon be in a "very different world", government scientists promise after the success of the jabs.
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01/03/2021 18:15:44 26 5
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Good Stuff
You will have to have an EU approved vaccine and confirmation of it in the green passport app before you even get on the plane to any of the EU countries. How is it a good stuff? Ah, yes . Holidays in Scarborough can be a good stuff, too .
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01/03/2021 18:15:48 11 26
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If this is the case why are we still in lockdown?
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01/03/2021 18:18:59 15 3
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Because not all the vulnerable adults have been vaccinated yet. Needs 3 weeks-ish longer.
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01/03/2021 18:20:21 5 3
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Because there are a lot of people still being admitted to hospital who have not had the vaccine yet.
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01/03/2021 18:16:10 34 25
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So it appears that the various vaccines are much better than had previously been suggested.

So this new information needs to be feed into the various models and used to allow the country to open up again far quicker than is currently being allowed.

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01/03/2021 18:17:30 16 37
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Model ? More like a random number generator !
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01/03/2021 18:16:46 153 27
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Good news, now we can stop worrying about the consequences of a rise in infections on opening up as increasing numbers are vaccinated.

Infections may well rise again, but when they do these vaccine effects will take the severity away, and if needed we can re-administer them in future to handle mutations.

It’s time we start facing up to our enemies, not cowering from them.
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GH
01/03/2021 18:18:49 53 14
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And facing up to the real cause(s) of this pandemic.
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01/03/2021 18:25:18 16 14
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Agree but the data also shows that infections are not necessarily going to rise even when we ease restrictions now because of the reduction in the number of cases after the first dose.
This will already be reducing cases substantially and we only had 5,455 today.
To still wait several weeks before even reducing restrictions on outdoors, which has very little impact anyway, is over the top.
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01/03/2021 20:20:44 2 5
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yes chihanaa they want us dead or walking imbeciles
01/03/2021 22:38:17 5 3
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If enough people get vaccinated the virus will no longer be able to find a new host and must necessarily die out,
And that is why EVERYONE should get a jab,
After that it does not matter whether the vaccine prevents transmission.
Remember Smallpox?
It does not exist except in vials kept in secure locations such as places like Porton Down because enough people got the vaccine to wipe it out.
01/03/2021 23:22:53 1 4
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Cowering.....lol. Grow up
02/03/2021 00:05:59 0 0
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Until we get a vaccine resistant mutation.
Unfortunately.
01/03/2021 23:57:55 0 1
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Say that again in 10 weeks time & I might agree with you.

Right now, it's nonsense.
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01/03/2021 18:16:53 481 30
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Fantastic news. Cases falling, proven vaccine efficacy...Is that light at the end of the tunnel?
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01/03/2021 18:21:03 99 347
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There is always a new variant to be vary of and to scare.
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01/03/2021 18:45:45 3 94
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Fantastic news. Cases falling, proven vaccine efficacy...Is that light at the end of the tunnel?

Yes - and NO...
That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
We are running through the tunnel on a single track.

Best is check BEFORE you... (whatever you do)
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01/03/2021 18:57:59 17 109
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Not 'proven vaccine efficacy' at all. The figures suggest this may be the case but may also coincide with the natural mass immunity which has been developing rapidly since November 2020.
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01/03/2021 19:25:19 25 4
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this "be scared of the new variant" story is wearing thin. I suggest one new scare story every two weeks, one a day has the opposite effect and makes it less scary. Use the Alien movie format, the less you see of the monster the more scary it is.
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01/03/2021 19:29:44 10 32
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No. Cases are falling because the whole country has been in lockdown.
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01/03/2021 20:13:59 0 12
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it is long term issues. the virus is mutating. who can say our immune systems may not without long term testing? i have had jab, i felt obliged to. not to protect me. to be able to visit sons abroad.
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01/03/2021 20:18:33 0 11
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No light,only darkness. The future is a first, smashing your head into a wall, forever.
After the courageous Liz MacKean exposed Jimmy Saville, the BBC did everything to destroy her reputation, and ban her further investigations. She was found dead in August 2017. Wonder why Saville got away with his crimes? They killed off Jill Dando too, her murder still unresolved. The BBC is an enabler of pedophilia, and a propaganda machine for this 'vaccine'. The BBC should not be trusted. Removed
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01/03/2021 20:25:21 14 1
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Where to start.

Efficacy has been proven in multiple peer review studies.

It's not the flu. Flu deaths are most likely lower due to social distancing and the fact that many of the most vulnerable have already sadly died in the excess deaths this year.

I'll choose to remain positive rather than wallow in misery, it makes for a more enjoyable life.
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01/03/2021 20:34:21 3 9
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nothing to do with vaccine everything to do with the WHO changing what you can call a covid death jan 14th
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01/03/2021 18:17:11 68 47
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Let's get going then. No restrictions. Vaccine effective for those who want it. Let's just make this all a bad memory. Open up.
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01/03/2021 18:21:58 34 39
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And allow anyone to die of Covid? How dare you! Even thinking a thought such as that should be considered treason.

Or; yep 100% agree you.
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01/03/2021 18:24:49 18 4
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Totally agree. Let’s just give it a couple of months before fully letting go to let everyone get vaccinated if they want to. Then after that if we go!
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01/03/2021 19:24:10 1 3
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Effective for how long
01/03/2021 23:58:56 2 0
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Why do people believe the vaccine is about immunity ? It is not. The challenge is to reduce the level of infection and transmission in the population as these are the factors that govern restrictions. A significant pool of virus in the population will increase the probability of new variants which may be more malignant. At the moment we still have a significnt pool of potential infections.
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01/03/2021 18:17:17 170 10
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Excellent news.
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01/03/2021 18:22:53 364 185
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credit to the government!
thank goodness we are not in the E.U.
Smelly English tory nationalists out in force. Removed
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01/03/2021 18:16:10 34 25
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So it appears that the various vaccines are much better than had previously been suggested.

So this new information needs to be feed into the various models and used to allow the country to open up again far quicker than is currently being allowed.

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01/03/2021 18:17:30 16 37
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Model ? More like a random number generator !
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01/03/2021 18:18:02 186 18
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If France & Germany etc don't admit they were wrong about the AZ vaccine and start using the stockpiles they have, then please send them over here, we'll gladly use them.
Ironic though isn't it, how the EU unilaterally decided to impose a border in Ireland for a few hours & kicked up an almighty fuss over not having enough AZ vaccines, and then decided they didn't want to use them.
Good news btw!
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01/03/2021 18:21:02 21 136
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:25:08 3 35
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:42:22 19 5
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The way the EU is acting I'm minded to think 'Great, more for us!'
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01/03/2021 18:57:04 2 35
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check the death columns,germany can afford to wait and pick and choose a better option
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01/03/2021 19:17:27 2 18
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Maybe their studies show different data to the UK and are taking a safety first approach. Time will tell whose right Too early to judge but no doubt EU scientists wrong according to you.
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01/03/2021 19:58:54 3 6
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let it lie please - EU have admitted a mistake made on a Friday afternoon rush for which the commission later apologised - stop banging your Brexit drum - it doesn't justify voting for Brexit anyway nor will it take away the damage
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02/03/2021 18:46:06 0 0
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You forgot to mention Canada- its not available for 65 year old´s either....so I am not sure if its about EU being salty. People rather get the BIONTECH/Pfizer or Moderna if given the choice and apparently they "were" given the choice in Germany. If I were given the choice I would also choose the more effective vaccine, but if I have no choice I would take the AZ.
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01/03/2021 18:18:13 102 11
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Outstanding news. Let’s hope out there some country will next time be a bit better in alerting us to the next one which we all hope never happens, but probably will one day.
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01/03/2021 18:54:00 106 5
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Yes. I think that may happen, one of the reasons Japan/Korea have done well this time is that they were hit hard by SARS so didn't have the "it won't happen here" mindset that Europe/America did. Now we know it *can* happen here.
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01/03/2021 20:23:28 5 11
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UK govt had plenty of warning but failed in its duty. Singing Happy Birthday twice turned out not to be preventative. In March 2020 this government was criminally irresponsible, despite being warned by what was clearly evident in neighbouring countries. Herd immunity was absolutely part of the strategy less than 12 months ago.
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01/03/2021 18:18:15 6 6
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I'm definitely having the vaccine. Wills and kate said its safe. ????
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01/03/2021 18:33:41 0 15
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And the Queen! Don't forget her. Apparently it hardly hurt at all.

Well it wouldn't love, because you didn't have it did you?
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01/03/2021 18:18:44 32 3
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Brilliant. I just hope these stories start to resonate and show evidence to people who need to hear it. A gateway back to life if people continue to take it up.
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01/03/2021 18:18:46 11 9
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This is excellent news. We just need to keep calm and hold it together. Please don't break the lockdown rules. Keep calm and... well, keep calm.
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01/03/2021 18:16:46 153 27
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Good news, now we can stop worrying about the consequences of a rise in infections on opening up as increasing numbers are vaccinated.

Infections may well rise again, but when they do these vaccine effects will take the severity away, and if needed we can re-administer them in future to handle mutations.

It’s time we start facing up to our enemies, not cowering from them.
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GH
01/03/2021 18:18:49 53 14
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And facing up to the real cause(s) of this pandemic.
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01/03/2021 18:58:18 15 9
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Yes has anybody else noticed how China's two biggest geopolitical dilemmas have solved themselves with the virus - namely Donald Trump and Hong Kong?

How convenient.
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01/03/2021 20:41:39 3 2
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Meaning what, exactly?
fos
01/03/2021 21:21:56 3 2
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A virus
01/03/2021 21:31:15 7 2
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By that you mean the WHO's farcical "investigation " in Wuhan?
01/03/2021 23:38:26 0 0
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and what would that be inept governments people not doing the rite thing, or just plain stupidity where people dont follow health directives and isolate when unwell.
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01/03/2021 18:15:48 11 26
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If this is the case why are we still in lockdown?
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01/03/2021 18:18:59 15 3
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Because not all the vulnerable adults have been vaccinated yet. Needs 3 weeks-ish longer.
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01/03/2021 18:19:04 133 16
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Great news - the more people get vaccinated - the safer for everyone and the sooner we can get out of lockdown.So please - get down to your vaccination centre and take the jab.
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01/03/2021 18:32:33 25 235
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Nope. Not now, not ever
01/03/2021 21:00:03 0 8
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No thanks.
01/03/2021 22:28:34 0 3
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If you're vulnerable
02/03/2021 06:49:41 0 0
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not unless school ages and the world is all vaccinated
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01/03/2021 18:19:19 48 6
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The holy land is getting nearer to some sort of normal and is fast approaching.

Counting down the days until I can get back out on the golf course. Would imagine and hope others are similarly excited about whatever it is pushes their buttons.
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01/03/2021 18:42:10 3 3
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Deus vult
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01/03/2021 20:27:15 0 7
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a holyland that treats a certian population worse than hindu untouchables???????????
I like masturbation and online gaming so er... yeah looking forward to the end of lockdown Removed
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01/03/2021 18:16:06 22 1
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excellent news.well done.
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01/03/2021 18:16:43 4 1
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Well done to all involved.
We are not worthy!
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01/03/2021 19:09:48 1 2
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I am
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01/03/2021 19:10:12 0 1
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and so is my wife
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01/03/2021 18:16:57 6 6
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Poorly written article - no specific mention of AZ vaccine effect on illness or death, yet quote from Van Tam on how great it is!
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01/03/2021 19:17:34 8 1
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Who let you out the lunatic asylum?
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01/03/2021 18:17:20 4 12
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So what you are saying is you still have a 20% chance of serious illness?

That's it, lock the country down forever. I can't possibly be expected to be treated like an adult that has some sense of my own risk profile and appetite.
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01/03/2021 18:33:49 1 2
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If that was the case you would be better off not having it.
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01/03/2021 18:19:30 3 14
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dont worry we will still be in lockdown in june with virtually no cases, hiding behind the threat of the future.
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01/03/2021 18:32:52 1 2
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Don't you do capital letters?
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01/03/2021 18:19:40 50 20
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Outrageous that relentlessly hostile anx institutionally biased BBC cut away from govt briefing smacks of censorship as can't handle good news!!
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01/03/2021 18:34:46 21 32
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I wouldn’t disagree it was naughty to cut away from the briefing regardless of it being good or not so good news to come. That said Iam getting sick of the smug looking and ignorant Hancock who is a clown , so from that perspective to cut away was a result
01/03/2021 21:06:52 1 2
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agree entirely...
01/03/2021 21:29:04 1 2
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Biased? I'll informed? Grow up !
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01/03/2021 18:15:48 11 26
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If this is the case why are we still in lockdown?
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01/03/2021 18:20:21 5 3
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Because there are a lot of people still being admitted to hospital who have not had the vaccine yet.
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01/03/2021 18:33:07 2 5
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Well hospital admissions are actually now we’ll below 1,000 and the figure for the UK on 27th February (which won’t be on the dashboard for a couple of days) was only 754, compared to a peak of 4,576 so that’s not really the case.
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01/03/2021 18:20:28 460 41
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A remarkable achievement, by the scientists and companies. On another note the UK has certainly showed the way forward.
Yes a remarkable achievement. The propaganda is working a treat Removed
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01/03/2021 19:08:54 6 54
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Really gorging on that propaganda aren't we.
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01/03/2021 19:11:33 6 39
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Great news. Now let's get rid of all the border restrictions and get the economy restarted asap.
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01/03/2021 19:12:02 6 69
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Why. Other countries have carried out studies and some not using the Oxford/astra zenica. Are they all wrong and UK right. Look at a broad base of facts not just one
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01/03/2021 20:03:07 20 2
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And by the Gov, who invested hugely in vaccines development, refused the EU scheme, pre-ordered early, & insisted that Oxford partner with a UK based pharma company ??
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01/03/2021 20:17:40 6 22
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"On another note the UK has certainly showed the way forward"

No. The vaccines are a multinational endeavour and the virus is no respecter of nationality . As nearly 120000 UK citizens who have died from C19 to date sadly demonstrate.
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01/03/2021 20:35:54 29 3
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Shhhhhh, we arent allowed to be proud of our country for being world leading, someone will bring colonialism, Little Englander or Brexit into it.
01/03/2021 21:32:33 5 1
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Yes. Where were the French?
Quite frankly, who cares?
01/03/2021 22:03:54 1 6
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Without wishing to detract from the excellent scientific achievements, you might wish to temper your comment against the sad statistical fact that the UK have the highest death toll in the world, as a per capita percentage of the population.
01/03/2021 22:08:32 0 7
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Completely agree, the only downside to all this is the tory government.
01/03/2021 23:17:14 0 3
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Shown who? 100,000 dead?
01/03/2021 23:39:41 0 2
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Compared to Israel (93% vaccinated) or UAE (60% vaccinated)?
Look, we've done OK but not well enough for an outpouring of jingoistic pride.
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01/03/2021 18:20:43 11 15
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Right, can we now please start opening up society again, and ditch this zero covid nonsense.. thanks :)
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01/03/2021 18:20:44 13 9
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Two buns in a cake shop.
"Great news about the effectiveness of the vaccine" says the Eccles cake.
"I'm not sure about it yet" says Doughnut.
"What?" says Eccles.
"Well", said Doughnut, "a French Tart told me it was Quasi effective..."
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01/03/2021 18:18:02 186 18
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If France & Germany etc don't admit they were wrong about the AZ vaccine and start using the stockpiles they have, then please send them over here, we'll gladly use them.
Ironic though isn't it, how the EU unilaterally decided to impose a border in Ireland for a few hours & kicked up an almighty fuss over not having enough AZ vaccines, and then decided they didn't want to use them.
Good news btw!
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01/03/2021 18:21:02 21 136
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:24:01 35 2
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Huh?

Many EU nations aren't using the AZ vaccine for over 65s because they thought it wasn't effective. This article/study was on exactly that age group. It is showing to be very effective.
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01/03/2021 19:08:59 6 2
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Because he's 80. My golfing mate got his on time - he used to work on the Alvis track. Conspiracy drivel.
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01/03/2021 19:29:51 11 2
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Stanley Johnson was anti Brexit and had applied for French citizenship, how does that for with your analogy?

People only like to mention Stanley when it suits their purpose!
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01/03/2021 19:24:08 1 7
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Becuase the UK only has 800,00 doses and although they are being spread out they can;t mix the vaccines so those who get the Pfizer vaccine are more like to get the second sooner.
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01/03/2021 19:39:28 2 3
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Here we go..... is that the best you can say? lol
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01/03/2021 19:58:20 3 1
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We got the Pfizer not by choice, it was what we were given.
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01/03/2021 20:00:22 2 1
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My god-daughter got the Pfizer vax, with 2nd dose 3 weeks after the first. Your point is?
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01/03/2021 18:21:03 403 62
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Media companies in a frenzy of 1 ONE unknown Brazil variant of virus and desperate for a headline story. Absolutely shameful and unfortunately will panic and upset people.
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01/03/2021 18:27:42 308 49
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absolutely agree. They are looking for a cloud rather than focusing on the positives. The media are in many ways responsible for Lockdown with their swivel eyed headlines
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01/03/2021 19:13:31 32 6
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Too true. Cases and deaths plummeting... hooray...but they want to ask about 1 test which incidentally was over 2 weeks ago. For all we know this person obeyed the rules and quarantined. And you'd think if they hadn't, then other cases would have emerged.. and they haven't. If a case does emerge they'll know where to go and surge test.
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01/03/2021 19:18:27 6 28
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And what about timing of this data today. Think about it Distraction perhaps.
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01/03/2021 19:36:53 0 27
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The safety and future well-being of this country all hinges on that single individual, who by now is probably slumped over the bar of his local pub, or as we like to call it these, ground zero. We are all doomed.
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01/03/2021 19:50:17 23 5
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Yep, pathetic, but it works unfortunately as it's much easier to scare people into reading articles than anything else. Especially with the usual wording of how the variant 'might', 'could' or 'may' do this or that. Even if the article goes onto then calm fears they have already got what they wanted. We will be seeing this more often now as vaccines work and they have less to grab attention with.
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01/03/2021 20:17:41 0 4
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ah brazil not nuts, simply hair loss from curly wurly zone.
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01/03/2021 20:21:51 4 3
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..so you have not heard of the New York variant
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01/03/2021 20:22:44 3 7
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government briefs the media, more behaviour scientists making sure we dont all come out of our homes for the next couple of months. perhaps a necessary evil but going to be hard to cork that genie back up..
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01/03/2021 20:35:21 4 5
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Well, the Kent variant would have started with one undetected case. It is now the prevalent strain in the UK.
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01/03/2021 20:38:36 0 7
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Blame the government. All the info is being fed by them.
01/03/2021 21:14:48 0 1
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Let’s hope you are right.
01/03/2021 21:29:24 2 1
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The virus has not been isolated yet has a Portuguese accent.
01/03/2021 21:45:12 1 7
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Sure!y what you should be focussed on is the ineptitude of the government allowing this carrier to just disappear into the country.
01/03/2021 22:15:58 3 1
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Doom merchant's the media.
If we could abolish the non stop drivel of negativity we'd be a much happier nation and mental health would improve 10 fold.
01/03/2021 22:19:45 2 6
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the original virus started with one case, it's all it takes.
01/03/2021 23:03:18 2 1
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The media are just devastated at all the positive news recently!
01/03/2021 23:17:58 0 3
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Reporting the news.........does not mean desperate.
02/03/2021 00:26:52 1 1
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I disagree. Covid only needed ONE human to cross to from its' animal host to start all this. Also, the danger and worry created by one person not filling in a registration card MUST be publicised and recognised for the reckless act it is. Countries with populations which have obeyed the rules have progressed much better than us - our stars are shameful.
02/03/2021 05:27:40 0 0
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the problem is that this Covid arrived here as a one patient, which remained unknown. and loot where that got us. The Brazil variant can be treated as a new pandemic, the vaccines can be as useful as water to the original covid. so if that ONE unknown Brazil variant take the same trajectory as the first Covid case arriving in UK, we are in for another lockdown
02/03/2021 06:41:38 0 0
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Flight came from Paris
Amy
02/03/2021 12:28:13 0 0
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One becomes Two.
Two becomes Four.
Four becomes Eight.
Eight become Sixteen.

Get the problem?
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01/03/2021 18:16:53 481 30
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Fantastic news. Cases falling, proven vaccine efficacy...Is that light at the end of the tunnel?
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01/03/2021 18:21:03 99 347
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There is always a new variant to be vary of and to scare.
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01/03/2021 18:35:01 79 6
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Do new strains of flu scare you? As a bad flu strain can kill thousands (even with a vaccine)
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01/03/2021 18:37:32 65 9
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The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.

We have a vaccine.
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01/03/2021 18:44:13 42 12
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Why not seal yourself in an airtight container then.
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01/03/2021 18:45:57 31 6
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"Always look on the bright side of life, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum".. bet that's not in your repertoire :)
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01/03/2021 18:55:04 61 6
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The people thinking it is a hoax are actually the ones living in fear of reality....
Only way the governments of the world can scare people into submission. The great reset is coming all hail Klaus Schwab. Removed
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01/03/2021 19:42:24 6 8
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Scared of your own shadow....
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DP
01/03/2021 19:42:35 8 2
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As there is with every germ or anything in nature....it happens all the time. Driving a car or walking down the road is not 100% safe yet we carry on anyway
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01/03/2021 19:46:28 6 5
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Like the kent one or south African that are never mentioned lately ????....
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01/03/2021 20:19:00 3 1
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Maybe you are the new variant
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01/03/2021 20:41:27 2 1
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Never felt scared so dont understand your comment
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01/03/2021 18:21:15 16 13
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If in 4 weeks time deaths have been reduced by 35% each week, deaths from COVID will be at rates no higher than our annual flu deaths (not comparing flu and COVID). As we are also coming into Spring at that point people have windows open and are outside more...

Why is it then going to be another 10+ weeks before we are allowed to live normal lives? We shouldn't be aiming for COVID zero!
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01/03/2021 18:25:53 19 7
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You would be the first to complain if we came out of lockdown and the rates started going up causing another lockdown. We have to come out slowly and get it right this time
02/03/2021 02:43:20 0 0
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We shouldn't be aiming for COVID zero!

We're not...

...we're aiming to minimise deaths infections & the possibility of more dangerous mutations.
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01/03/2021 18:21:16 160 97
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WELL DONE H.M. Government!
thank god we were not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:23:17 37 234
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Nothing to do with the EU. And by the way the EU ha fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it.
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01/03/2021 19:26:32 2 16
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Why don't you think EU aren't vaccinating their people. Time will tell whether the UK one jab policy is the right one. EU doing it differently, two jabs quickly whose to say they are wrong.
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01/03/2021 20:13:27 0 10
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Greate news on the vaccine development and efficacy,

however. as for "well done HM Government", have you forgotten the incompentence, dithering, PPE scandals and anti-science measures that got us in deep poo and had us stuck there without a plan?

Governance and strategy haven't saved the day here, it's the lab-geeks.

Lets have it right.
01/03/2021 21:12:11 0 3
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More like thank God we have amazing scientists and the NHS to deliver vaccines. Lucky combo for the current government, who have done little to support either until last year.
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01/03/2021 21:21:31 0 6
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Well done nhs, thank goodness the goverment didnt put it out to their mates. Wish we were in th EU vaccintion has nothing to do with membership
01/03/2021 21:43:14 0 1
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Well done the NHS.
You sir are a fu*£ing idiot!! Removed
01/03/2021 22:18:50 1 3
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Nothing to do with Hancock, Johnson and the Government. They got everything wrong for 11 months hence well over 100,000 deaths. The vaccination success is down to the underfunded NHS which doesn't even report to Hancock and the Government
01/03/2021 22:20:45 0 3
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Good point as those clowns would've made sure we would be last.
Perfect timing departing that organisation ??
01/03/2021 23:24:34 0 0
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Well done Boris - only 110,000 dead!
02/03/2021 00:17:43 0 2
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How about Australia?
EU has vaccinated 10 times the number (per capita).
Way ahead of Russia, Canada, India and China too.
Twice as many 2nd doses as UK.
Just saying.
02/03/2021 00:40:16 0 0
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UK govt has killed and infected more pro rata than any other European country, still, the big numbers make for a more dramatic result . Wish I was on the Med....
02/03/2021 00:57:47 0 0
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Parts of the UK are still in the EU
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01/03/2021 18:21:26 9 11
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If you're an EU bureaucrat or a German then the vaccine is not effective...
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01/03/2021 18:42:35 0 7
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In a couple of years you'll see...
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01/03/2021 18:21:30 104 7
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Some positive news. Not sure there’s anything else to say really though I’m sure someone will find something new to complain about.
HIV positive

Just ask the Aussies
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I'd like to know more about over 80s with underlying conditions and the efficacy of the vaccines....both of them.
02/03/2021 08:48:44 0 1
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Fancy complaining about people finding things to complain about.
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01/03/2021 18:17:11 68 47
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Let's get going then. No restrictions. Vaccine effective for those who want it. Let's just make this all a bad memory. Open up.
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01/03/2021 18:21:58 34 39
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And allow anyone to die of Covid? How dare you! Even thinking a thought such as that should be considered treason.

Or; yep 100% agree you.
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01/03/2021 18:37:34 8 5
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How did world survive Spanish fly without jab passports or even jab?
18 millions died then. Almost 18 times more than now and yet world had half the population.
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01/03/2021 19:26:42 6 2
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Calm down. People die all the time of all kinds if diseases. Agree Covid was a huge threat. Now it us a medium threat. Soon to become a normal threat. It will, and nothing will, be zero threat
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01/03/2021 18:22:18 10 5
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Not good news cbbc has just announced that tinkly winky has tested positive for the blue Peter variant,

“ here’s one variant we propagated earlier...
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01/03/2021 18:54:41 1 1
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????????
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01/03/2021 18:22:23 182 41
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Matt , JVT ...can we please have a campaign to educate braindead people in supermarkets.

Every time I go there is nearly always someone behind me in the queue getting far too close , it winds me up no end .....Can you please tell them to keep their effing distance !
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01/03/2021 18:55:43 19 39
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So stop going out so often. It'll happen less.
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01/03/2021 20:22:06 6 7
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and you cannot becoz? fight ur own battles.
01/03/2021 20:46:51 8 8
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A polite request from your good-self would be more than sufficient. Does it actually happen 'every time' you go shopping or is that a teeny exaggeration? The fact that you followed that with 'nearly always' suggests not. A personal energy of love and joy is a much better place than fear, respectfully I suggest you give it a try.
01/03/2021 21:08:26 13 3
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Yes please! Find it ‘amusing’ that while out walking everybody moves out of each other’s way (by an absolute minimum of 2 metres), yet if you see the same people in a shop they get as close as they possibly can. Why?
01/03/2021 21:45:01 12 5
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My solution in supermarket queues is to have my trolley behind me.. very effective barrier.. and I am then in complete control of the gap in front of me.
01/03/2021 21:45:56 12 14
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A few do it on purpose, the rest still don't understand. We've known for over 4 years now that 52% of the population are thick.
01/03/2021 21:50:28 0 3
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Weido
01/03/2021 23:05:09 1 3
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You can also stop leaving in fear and act like free person
01/03/2021 23:58:08 0 0
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Use a shopping trolley and keep it behind you at the till. Works every time!!!
02/03/2021 06:47:12 0 0
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just wear ffp3 mask
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Joke!!!??????
Let's make it logical - government should state following " if you aren't vaccinate yourself, you would pay for NHS from your pocket"

But!!! They know that covid is simple flu and not as it blowing up in the news
They forcing people to vaccinate themselves Against their wishings as a result , above option isn't exist !!!
Covid it's just a flu - don't kill yourself with vaccine
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01/03/2021 18:29:57 1 1
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Does Daddy know you are using the internet?
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01/03/2021 18:34:26 1 1
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tosh --- so please show me the evidence as to where all these vaccine deaths are. Hmmmm I feel I will be waiting a while....oh and just to confirm I am uninterested in the minor side effect just figures on Vaccine deaths please....
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01/03/2021 18:22:32 473 89
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Had my az jab today?? v pleased! For the anti vax mob please just get it, you really think a govt this inept is capable of putting a microchip into a vaccine? They are barely capable of putting a cold coffee in the microwave never mind a microchip anywhere!!
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01/03/2021 18:26:37 320 32
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Congratulations Scozzie ...I’m 55 so hopefully I will get mine soon .

A message to all ...If you offered it , take it , it’s a no brainier.
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01/03/2021 18:32:51 31 152
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Really that’s what you think most people who don’t want this jab are worried about. Maybe it’s putting untested chemicals into themselves with no idea what the long term effects are going to be is what worries most of us. You crack on son, I’ll take my chance without it. By the way I have been tested, negative result, no symptoms, why do I need a vaccine
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01/03/2021 18:36:28 48 3
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How on earth could you get a microchip though a syringe needle? My dog has a chip and I can feel it in his neck
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01/03/2021 18:42:20 60 5
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Exactly! - When said anti vaxer carries a mobile phone around with a much more sophisticated GPS in it!
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01/03/2021 18:45:25 40 30
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So that'll be the same inept government you're referring to, which has organised and facilitated the vaccine delivery programme with amazing efficiency, overcoming logistical challenges never before faced by any previous government, which made it possible for you to have your jab today?

Or do you think your vaccine today just appeared miraculously out of thin air at your vaccine centre?
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01/03/2021 18:50:48 41 4
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Great news! I had my Pfizer the other day, but would happily have accepted AZ. The best news out of this story is that *both* vaccines are really useful.
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01/03/2021 19:03:28 46 1
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I heard the micro chip in the vaccine protects you from 5G radiation.. so I'm definitely getting the jab
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01/03/2021 19:19:41 4 30
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So inept you got vacitated. What a hypocrite.
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01/03/2021 19:21:13 11 42
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It's not about micro chips, or 5g masts, or lizard people living in the palace.

It's about what's come before....
It's about misinformation.
It's about non transparency
It's about not trusting the world's political platform.

And it's about freedom. Freedom of choice.
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01/03/2021 19:40:53 6 30
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Well done, there's a good citizen. Here, have some freedom.

Oh wait, there's another variant that's more deadly, better stay locked in your home for another month. Sorry
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01/03/2021 19:41:31 11 17
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Glad you are pleased. Remember it is Boris' crowd which has made it possible. Very fashionable to knock Boris. He had the forsight to order plenty of vaccines for us and get the NHS and Army ready to administer it. Well done to him.
Thankfully we are out of EU as you would still be waiting and waiting to hear when you would be vaccinated. Take your blinkers off please.
I am not a Tory by the way.
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01/03/2021 20:15:34 15 4
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screw the anti vaxers, i want my jab, the more idiots who dont take it the quicker ill get mine
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01/03/2021 20:16:54 12 2
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Any talk of microchips by conspiracy theorist shows complete ignorance of the fundamental of electronics not alone the science of vaccination. They are just gullible people who have been watching too many Hollywood movies written by people with no technical or scientific knowledge.
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01/03/2021 20:18:35 0 7
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You are confusing Boris with a much higher authority.. And I don't mean the one on a cloud
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01/03/2021 20:36:20 3 1
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But they are capable of getting a vaccination programme to be proud of
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01/03/2021 20:40:48 3 3
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The vaccines certainly have promising effects against developing more serious complications, but there is only one parameter, long term side effects, which unfortunately hasn't been tested nor will be known until time passes. Fit and healthy adults may, unsurprisingly, be hesitant until these are known, this is also the main hesitancy issue around medical professionals worldwide NOT antivax mumbo.
01/03/2021 21:43:32 3 1
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Besides, why would we need two microchips?!
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01/03/2021 18:17:17 170 10
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Excellent news.
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01/03/2021 18:22:53 364 185
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credit to the government!
thank goodness we are not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:27:43 31 85
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Nothing to do with the EU
By the way the EU has fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:28:43 39 66
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UK deaths per 100,000 180. Worse than Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Spain ... etc etc. Even worse than US. But you be proud if you want to.
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01/03/2021 18:33:15 47 48
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Nothing to do with the government, thats why its been successful ;)
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01/03/2021 18:47:58 34 2
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Credit to the people who volunteered to trial the vaccines
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01/03/2021 18:58:55 2 7
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Let's be hopeful we'll vaccinate all those fish.
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01/03/2021 19:04:23 2 14
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Sorry, what actual difference to your life does it make?my parents have both been vaccinated. Both still under the poxy lockdown rules. Still nothing open aside from supermarkets. Still can't go on holiday. Still locked up in their own home. Frantically wave your flag around all you want. Vaccinated or not, if we're still going to be locked down for months, what's the point.
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01/03/2021 19:15:12 1 21
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Rubbish. As usual anti EU comment. By the way EU using modern now what about UK. Note also this is UK data, other countries have conducted studies and come up with different data. Why would that be. No doubt anti UK in your eyes.
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01/03/2021 20:01:29 2 12
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Err its the one thing the government hasn't been responsible for - its the NHS, existing public health system and volunteers been left to run it. If it was the government some incompetent toff or Tory party doner would have been in charge and messed it up!
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01/03/2021 20:19:05 0 2
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....as it has a much better survival rate.
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01/03/2021 20:36:40 0 3
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Please explain what I say to my French distributor who has had taxes slapped on my U.K. manufactured goods. Just forgot, not your problem.
01/03/2021 21:51:14 0 3
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Yes, because there are so many good news stories when you scroll down the Brexit page aren't there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/uk_leaves_the_eu
For what? They've killed over 120000 people and scammed and stolen money at every corner and are in the process of selling of the NHS and as for your stupid Brexit, show me the benefits of being out of the EU Removed
01/03/2021 22:26:32 0 4
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credit to the scientists and the "UNDERPAID NHS", stuff all to do with buff head Boris and his chums.
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01/03/2021 18:23:01 24 8
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Credit where credit is due. The British have beat the world and the EU with their vaccine and led the way. This is what can be done when you own your industry and stop selling it off to foreign predators.

Astrazenica should be protected and never allowed to fall into foreign ownership.
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01/03/2021 18:40:06 8 3
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It already is part owned by "foreigners" I dont know why you feel thats a problem?
AstraZeneca plc is a British-Swedish multinational with a HQ in Cambridge, and Pfizer Inc. is an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation HQ New York.
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01/03/2021 19:17:31 0 4
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No. That's simply what the .gov tell the beeb to report.

Remember, there is no freedom of press in this country. Everything you get told (not just the virus data) is fabricated.
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01/03/2021 18:21:16 160 97
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WELL DONE H.M. Government!
thank god we were not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:23:17 37 234
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Nothing to do with the EU. And by the way the EU ha fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it.
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01/03/2021 18:30:47 35 7
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Little consolation to those in the EU waiting for their first vaccine.
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01/03/2021 18:32:27 36 7
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lol. not by percentage of population which is their preferred metric with good reason. Macron may agree with you though, Its hard to know with him as it depends what percentage of votes he will win or lose.
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01/03/2021 18:42:17 58 10
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The EU is trailing way behind the UK in % of population given first dose, uk30%, eu8%, google it. Glad we've removed the bureaucratic shackles
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01/03/2021 18:39:21 50 5
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LOL. It is quite literally and specfically because of the EU. Oh and our technique of delaying the second BOOSTER dose has proven to be correct which is WHY we are only just about to start with the second jabs. Choose your words carefully as we begin the second dose regimen...the evidence shows us moving faster than any EU nation and we will overtake in fully vacccinated people soon too.
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01/03/2021 18:41:22 65 12
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UK is 4th in the world for percentage given first dose. EU is 33rd. But of course you know that and just want to have a rant because your bunch of champagne socialists didn't get anywhere near winning the election. Not helped of course by Macron and Merkel acting like spoilt children after the wonderful Brexit.
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01/03/2021 18:51:20 52 3
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Britain has opted for the single jab policy.
So obviously the EU has more fully vaccinated people.

Spain,France,Italy (the 3 countries with populations close to ours) have all vaccinated less than 5 million people.

Britain has single vaccinated over 20 million people,with 700k receiving 2.

Who do you think will fully vaccinate the entire population first ?
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01/03/2021 19:10:49 24 2
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EU average jab is 7%.
Assuming that's 2 doses, multiply by 2 to give what EU could have vaccinated single dose = 14%.
Uk is at 30% plus and that's part double jabbed.
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01/03/2021 19:14:09 10 3
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Mostly Italian senior military officers and politicians jumping the queue.
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01/03/2021 19:17:21 9 1
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I which reality is that a good thing? NEWSFLASH : 1% of a million is larger than 100% of 10. ANOTHER NEWSFLASH : The double vaccination isn't actually planned. It's a consequence of not having enough vaccines to do the two doses within the optimum time period, for a much larger proportion of the population. Which is what the UK is doing. Get someone to explain it to you. ROFL
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01/03/2021 19:27:35 2 12
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Don't tell the UK nationalist bunch that. Or that EU following recommended two jab policy
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01/03/2021 19:27:54 10 3
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Every week or so LoveUK comes out with the same tired claim that the EU is doing better.mrs

Every week countless people quite rightly demonstrate in 20 different ways that the EU is lagging woefully behind.

Normal folk might go look it up. But theres no telling some people, so maybe it's intentional misinformation.
01/03/2021 20:58:14 4 1
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In terms of % of population? You are talking horse manure .
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01/03/2021 21:12:33 4 1
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What planet are you on?
01/03/2021 21:26:47 7 1
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You need to Google ! Telegraph selective misinformation !
Latest results show 1 AZ jab is 80% effective & delaying 2nd to 90 days is even more effective..
I am pro EU..but they've got this badly wrong & U turns now..
Which countries are reducing infections, hospitalisations & deaths
How ?..why..?
01/03/2021 22:39:23 0 2
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Who cares ???we're not in the eu anymore..
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01/03/2021 18:23:18 6 1
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Some encouraging signs if you follow the graphs at coronavirus.data.gov.uk.

Graphs (cases, hospitalisations) which were looking like a standard exponential decay pattern - i.e. beginning to level off a bit, seem to be taking a more sharp downward turn. Hints of a new effect coming into play.

Pretty much at the point you'd expect, too, given the time lag between vaccinations and immunity.
01/03/2021 23:57:17 0 2
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Have a look at those charts and explain why no-one died of Covid between June and September last year and then come back and talk about vaccines and immunity.
So who's actually dying of it then? And if its mainly people who refuse the vaccine then tough 5hit Removed
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01/03/2021 19:15:04 4 3
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No it's not mainly those who refuse the vax... you'll find it's simply those who 'need' the vax. The overs.. the disabled (60% off total death stats), and the vunrable, ie underlying health problems.

And please don't forget to remember that those who contract the virus, those within the 'vulnerable' catogary, still have a 95% survivability outcome.

Only a 5% chance off death in the most unwell
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01/03/2021 18:19:42 5 5
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Are the number of hospitalizations not going down because we are in lockdown though?!Hopefully this has been considered in the analysis.
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01/03/2021 18:25:51 7 1
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Partly - but take a look at the data, you'll see a curve that was flattening out begin to take a steeper gradient. Both cases and hospitalisations.

It's consistent with a new, extra reducing effect. Give it another week or two and it will likely be even more pronounced.
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01/03/2021 18:26:06 0 1
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We have been in lockdown for over two months so the comparisons will be over that period
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01/03/2021 18:26:21 1 1
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It's probably a little column A, little column B. But I will trust the numbers and the scientists doing their job.
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01/03/2021 18:29:08 0 1
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Think they'll have thought of that!
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01/03/2021 18:34:43 2 1
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Every week or so I've downloaded the NHS spreadsheet of the total deaths and make a graph of the percentage of all deaths for age 80 or over.

It consistently averaged at around 55% for a long while, but now it's tending around values like 46% or less. Signs of the first vaccinated group attaining immunity.

Can't use the same technique for much longer, because the 60-70 group should drop soon.
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01/03/2021 18:38:41 1 2
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My thoughts exactly. As an 80 year old, like others, I 've been self isolating for a year now - must have some effect on the figures surely.
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01/03/2021 18:21:02 21 136
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:24:01 35 2
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Huh?

Many EU nations aren't using the AZ vaccine for over 65s because they thought it wasn't effective. This article/study was on exactly that age group. It is showing to be very effective.
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01/03/2021 18:42:01 5 37
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No one mentioned the vaccines efficacy. There was not enough data for +65 year olds. Quite simple for us in Europe to understand. Sadly reported in much of UK media incorrectly.
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01/03/2021 18:24:08 238 30
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Get the jab everyone.
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01/03/2021 18:29:33 53 442
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No thanks
01/03/2021 23:01:47 0 2
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Yeah .....no thanks
01/03/2021 23:04:09 0 2
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Thanks, but no thanks, I don’t have a contract with the Pharma Cartel. No obligation to consume their products!
01/03/2021 23:13:06 0 1
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and you are?
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01/03/2021 18:23:50 21 4
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Great news but if holidays are still uncertain why do we allow people from high risk countries in, it doesn’t make any sense.
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01/03/2021 18:30:44 9 3
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They allow them in but charge then £1,750 and 10 days in a hotel for the pleasure. It should be all travellers, but just the 33 high risk ones are fine. That £1,750 will put a LOT of folks off from travelling.
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01/03/2021 18:17:11 68 47
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Let's get going then. No restrictions. Vaccine effective for those who want it. Let's just make this all a bad memory. Open up.
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01/03/2021 18:24:49 18 4
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Totally agree. Let’s just give it a couple of months before fully letting go to let everyone get vaccinated if they want to. Then after that if we go!
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01/03/2021 18:34:14 15 8
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The thing is, and I’m not being awkward here, but when is going to be the right time? The govt. have backed themselves in to a corner with the help of the media. The country in general has been made to feel petrified about a virus that seriously effects about 1% of people. You’ve only got to look at the comments on here to see people won’t accept an “open up” order.
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01/03/2021 18:18:02 186 18
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If France & Germany etc don't admit they were wrong about the AZ vaccine and start using the stockpiles they have, then please send them over here, we'll gladly use them.
Ironic though isn't it, how the EU unilaterally decided to impose a border in Ireland for a few hours & kicked up an almighty fuss over not having enough AZ vaccines, and then decided they didn't want to use them.
Good news btw!
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01/03/2021 18:25:08 3 35
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:27:48 47 3
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You just repeated yourself. If it didn't make sense the first time, repetition certainly isn't going to clarify things.
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01/03/2021 18:41:24 29 1
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My mum also had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. She was lucky to be one of the first to be vaccinated in December and had her second in the first week of January. Your point is?
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01/03/2021 18:43:12 28 2
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Probably because he was invited for them and took up the offer. I don't see your point.
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01/03/2021 19:50:40 2 1
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I bet ex President Blair has hab two jabs already.
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01/03/2021 19:51:02 0 1
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What does 2 on time?
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01/03/2021 18:25:14 163 74
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38% of the adult population in the UK have now had at least one dose giving them over 80% protection

Meanwhile in the EU infections are rising, hardly anyone has been vaccinated and more lockdowns & curfews (& no doubt riots too) are imminent

But that won't stop Comrade Remoaner posting their 'whataboutery'
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01/03/2021 18:47:35 50 179
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Anti-Vaxers, such a dirty word. How about 'People who have freedom of choice, not my choice, but a choice never the less'

Sounds a bit less medieval doesn't it?

Though I bet if you had been alive back in the dark ages, you'd be the same person chasing down woman in the street, screaming "Burn the Witch" just because someone didn't get to church on time.
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01/03/2021 19:27:14 17 21
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The article has nothing to do with the EU, yet here you are complaining that "Remainers" are the ones adhering to "Whataboutism"...

You are ridiculous.
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01/03/2021 19:30:53 15 14
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Your anti EU facts are totally wrong Spain for example not hit anywhere as bad as UK in recent months. Why because their lock down methods were more effective and well timed. Oh and Spanish kids have been in full time school since last September. Criticise that.
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01/03/2021 20:40:18 2 1
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Doesn’t help my EU exports though. U.K. manufacturing RIP.
01/03/2021 21:50:06 2 1
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Infections are rising in parts of the UK too. It's not a Brexit issue, it's a stupidity issue...ah yes, on second thoughts there IS a link then!
01/03/2021 23:24:01 1 1
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You little Englanders are so funny. Tin foil not working?
02/03/2021 00:37:25 0 0
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Ho hum. We British have the attention span of a gnat and Parliament knows it. Our Covid stats are the worst . Parliament and the pub has killed more and infected more pro rata than anywhere else in Europe.
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01/03/2021 18:16:46 153 27
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Good news, now we can stop worrying about the consequences of a rise in infections on opening up as increasing numbers are vaccinated.

Infections may well rise again, but when they do these vaccine effects will take the severity away, and if needed we can re-administer them in future to handle mutations.

It’s time we start facing up to our enemies, not cowering from them.
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01/03/2021 18:25:18 16 14
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Agree but the data also shows that infections are not necessarily going to rise even when we ease restrictions now because of the reduction in the number of cases after the first dose.
This will already be reducing cases substantially and we only had 5,455 today.
To still wait several weeks before even reducing restrictions on outdoors, which has very little impact anyway, is over the top.
Shuts up the Anti-Vaxers. thank the lord. Appreciate there may be a few minor side effects but listening to these clowns you would have expected truck loads of vaccine deaths which has not materialized. hoorah to the scientific community - Removed
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01/03/2021 18:34:01 77 9
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And why do you listen to them?
What is so apealing in some rubbish speaches? If the world ignored idiots they would disapear faster.
Once media ans social networks give them a platform they just keep coming with junk.
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01/03/2021 18:40:45 9 18
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The only anti-vaxx talk I've heard is from people complaining about anti-vaxxers.

The boomers and oldies love the vaccine.
Have you ever looked at the damage vaccines do to some people, probably not, the government knows best, just like they did with the Iraq war, sell the people a problem and we can do whatever we like even if it's based on lies, Removed
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Jeez. You and your upvoters have really swallowed the popular view.
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01/03/2021 19:13:37 4 27
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"Anti-vaxer" is a term used by "anti-thinkers".
It is absurd to claim anything at this very early stage of development of the pioneering types of vaccines used in the UK. Adenovirus vaccines like the AZ one may yet preclude use of similar vaccine technology for future illnesses. Vaccines offering only 60-80% protection may lead to vaccine resistant mutations.
"Thank the lord"? Personally, I'm going to thank the Magic Unicorn of Doom as there's just as much evidence for his/her existence. Removed
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01/03/2021 19:37:31 1 3
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No it doesn't. Is that what you want? To shut people up?
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01/03/2021 19:40:18 0 4
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In Germany, the country that has been at the forefront of the race for a vaccine with biotech company BioNTech half of surveyed nurses did not want to be vaccinated, along with a quarter of doctors.

https://www.ft.com/content/c576e15f-e5b1-4369-a5f0-073b4466036f

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01/03/2021 20:04:57 3 1
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Perhaps there is an up side to the anti-vaxers continuing to delude themselves. Since only some will have natural immunity, Natural Selection will reduce their numbers as they die from Covid, lose fertility, etc.. In the longer term, this will benefit the UK gene pool (which already lacks the diversity seen on the Continent and elsewhere).

+1 to Darwin!
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01/03/2021 20:00:44 0 2
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Few minor side effects? 403 UK vaccine deaths to 19-2-21 from Astra Zeneca and Pfizer 'vaccines'. That is more than a truck load.
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01/03/2021 20:06:15 3 1
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The anti-vaxers have a problem with vaccinations only if it is THEY who are vaccinated. However, they are more that happy for the rest of us to get the vaccine and save them in the process. I guess they are pretty happy for the indirect immunity they will receive.
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01/03/2021 20:14:45 0 1
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The vaccines certainly have promising effects against developing more serious complications, but there is only one parameter, long term side effects, which unfortunately hasn't been tested nor will be known until time passes. Fit and healthy adults may, unsurprisingly, be hesitant until these are known, this is also the main hesitancy issue around medical professionals worldwide NOT antivax mumbo.
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01/03/2021 20:25:31 1 1
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and thank god for brexit that we didn't get sucked in to their disastrous vaccine programe like all the others did.
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01/03/2021 18:19:42 5 5
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Are the number of hospitalizations not going down because we are in lockdown though?!Hopefully this has been considered in the analysis.
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01/03/2021 18:25:51 7 1
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Partly - but take a look at the data, you'll see a curve that was flattening out begin to take a steeper gradient. Both cases and hospitalisations.

It's consistent with a new, extra reducing effect. Give it another week or two and it will likely be even more pronounced.
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01/03/2021 18:37:48 2 1
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Yes and also rates are going down faster in groups which have been vaccinated.
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01/03/2021 18:53:55 1 2
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Data? LMAO!

Just like the Beeb tell the whole non-biaesd truth in thier news reports.

Just like the US is a peaceful, people loving, anti-corruption, anti-war country.

Just like the weather woman tells you it's going to be sunny and dry tomorrow.

It's all nonsense.
0 transparency.
0 Trust.
02/03/2021 03:05:23 0 0
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Indeed.
Lots of people are claiming it's the vaccine, rather than lockdown which began to reduce infections from mid January, despite the vaccination programme only hitting its stride a week later.
NOW we're seeing the vaccine continue the fall brought about by lockdown, just at the point the latter was losing its effect(thanks to idiots ignoring the restrictions "as everyone's vaccinated...")
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01/03/2021 18:21:15 16 13
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If in 4 weeks time deaths have been reduced by 35% each week, deaths from COVID will be at rates no higher than our annual flu deaths (not comparing flu and COVID). As we are also coming into Spring at that point people have windows open and are outside more...

Why is it then going to be another 10+ weeks before we are allowed to live normal lives? We shouldn't be aiming for COVID zero!
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01/03/2021 18:25:53 19 7
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You would be the first to complain if we came out of lockdown and the rates started going up causing another lockdown. We have to come out slowly and get it right this time
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01/03/2021 18:41:30 1 2
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We are not in lockdown now because we came out of another lockdown too early. We are only in lockdown because they want to wait until a certain number are vaccinated before easing restrictions.
Nor did easing restrictions from the first lockdown lead to any subsequent lockdown. All across Europe cases rose in Autumn despite being very low in the summer.
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01/03/2021 18:45:59 1 4
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What is your logic (real data) reason for going slowly? People over 65 are 90% of the people going to hospital, which is the reason for lockdown. They are now mostly immune, therefore no need for any lockdown.
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01/03/2021 19:57:10 0 2
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No I wouldn't. I am a numbers person. I believe that lockdowns work when they are needed.

They are no longer needed as is shown by the data.

In 4 weeks, 12 million more people will have had their 1st dose, millions will have had their 2nd.

What I am not saying is to heck with the rules currently in place. But a faster exit plan can happen.
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01/03/2021 18:25:59 6 15
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Great short term results, what about long term effects, just wondering ???????
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01/03/2021 18:27:49 6 2
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I'm also wondering what next weeks lotery numbers are.
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01/03/2021 18:28:03 2 1
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If we are all vaccinated and and it causes issues with a few thousand over the next x number of years, that is better than a few hundred thousand dying every year.
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01/03/2021 18:33:16 2 2
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The long- term effects are clear: anti-vaxers will not be able to travel and will have to continue to isolate. The people who have been vaccinated will live long and prosper!
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01/03/2021 18:42:20 0 1
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Long term sided-effects? You'll need to wait a long time for those...
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01/03/2021 18:19:42 5 5
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Are the number of hospitalizations not going down because we are in lockdown though?!Hopefully this has been considered in the analysis.
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01/03/2021 18:26:06 0 1
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We have been in lockdown for over two months so the comparisons will be over that period
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01/03/2021 18:19:42 5 5
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Are the number of hospitalizations not going down because we are in lockdown though?!Hopefully this has been considered in the analysis.
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01/03/2021 18:26:21 1 1
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It's probably a little column A, little column B. But I will trust the numbers and the scientists doing their job.
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01/03/2021 18:22:32 473 89
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Had my az jab today?? v pleased! For the anti vax mob please just get it, you really think a govt this inept is capable of putting a microchip into a vaccine? They are barely capable of putting a cold coffee in the microwave never mind a microchip anywhere!!
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01/03/2021 18:26:37 320 32
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Congratulations Scozzie ...I’m 55 so hopefully I will get mine soon .

A message to all ...If you offered it , take it , it’s a no brainier.
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01/03/2021 18:54:50 1 25
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If you have no brain that is....
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01/03/2021 19:26:07 1 16
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Oh really? Have they told you how long it lasts?
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01/03/2021 19:41:20 2 44
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It's definitely a no brained. You take the vaccine if you have no brain
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01/03/2021 20:29:03 12 5
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Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers have no brain.
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01/03/2021 20:41:10 0 12
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Have you read what you will be taking it's unlicensed (emergency use only) with trials still onging. I think I'll wait before accepting anything. And before you say anything, get it from the horses mouth. The FDA fact sheet link for the Pfizer C19 vaccine :- https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download
01/03/2021 21:37:24 0 3
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as in, if you have it, you have no brain?
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01/03/2021 18:27:17 330 15
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Surely this is better news than we could have dreamed of even 6 months ago. The aim of the vaccination was to cut hospitalisation and deaths, anything else is a bonus. We will never stop people from getting mild illnesses and as long as the vaccine prevents people getting ill or dying, bring it on and get it in the arms of people.
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01/03/2021 18:33:13 16 355
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No
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01/03/2021 18:52:01 6 96
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You can have mine. I won't be taking it under any circumstances
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01/03/2021 19:20:10 6 47
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Has anyone told you how long immunity lasts. No. And no-one seems to be asking the question.
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more time to make tik tok videos
01/03/2021 22:45:54 1 1
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95% agree
02/03/2021 06:43:37 0 0
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Covid is still high regardless
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01/03/2021 18:21:03 403 62
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Media companies in a frenzy of 1 ONE unknown Brazil variant of virus and desperate for a headline story. Absolutely shameful and unfortunately will panic and upset people.
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01/03/2021 18:27:42 308 49
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absolutely agree. They are looking for a cloud rather than focusing on the positives. The media are in many ways responsible for Lockdown with their swivel eyed headlines
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01/03/2021 19:19:05 1 27
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They only report the news and Govt spin of course
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01/03/2021 20:15:26 4 19
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Nope, that's definitely the Tories responsible.
01/03/2021 21:39:08 5 1
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1000% agree. Nicky Campbell on 5 Live breakfast show is a disgrace (as well as being a living breathing Alan Partridge tribute act)
01/03/2021 22:22:49 0 3
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same media got this lazy incompetent government of it's backside originally and forced it to act.
01/03/2021 23:18:24 0 4
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Ah yes blame the media, not the 100,000 dead.....duh
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01/03/2021 18:22:53 364 185
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credit to the government!
thank goodness we are not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:27:43 31 85
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Nothing to do with the EU
By the way the EU has fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:39:02 34 9
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My father-in-law has also had both his doses, and both were Pfizer. Please feel free to pour your vitriol on him as well. The rest of your post is just garbage.
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01/03/2021 18:49:55 23 15
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UK vacation rate 30%
EU VACATION RATE 4.6%

Far more people protected just as well are out of the EU.
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01/03/2021 20:12:54 7 1
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And the study shows a single dose gives 80% protection against serious illness, so they could have protected twice as many people.
How many will die waiting for their first jab so that others could have their protection bumped up from 80% to 95%?
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01/03/2021 20:21:23 4 2
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You are deluded man. The EU has failed abysmally. It has so it claims 460 Million in total but LOOK at France's pitiful numbers? The EU will kill some of its own citizens because of its arrogance, Hubris and worst of all, disinformation campaigns wages by Merkel and Macron over our AZO vaccine for over 65s that some elders Remoaners in the UK will have believed. So utterly sad all round.
01/03/2021 21:44:24 3 1
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If that's what you think you should try living here in Spain. I know plenty of people 80+ who haven't even had a letter yet which means they're at least 2 weeks away from a 1st vaccine. The EU has totally messed up and people here are well and truly peed off when they see how well its going in UK and that's not just the expats it's the Spanish too!
01/03/2021 22:30:25 2 1
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More Remoaner nonsense.
The advice from both Pfizer & AZ is now to leave 10-12 weeks between first & second doses to achieve maximum protection, so if the EU is ignoring the advice of the developers, it demonstrates they're even MORE out of touch & behind the curve than when they screwed up ordering vaccines.
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01/03/2021 18:27:46 8 8
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It is compulsory to complete the 2021 census, yet not compulsory to have a Covid vaccination. Both are essential and both should be compulsory!
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01/03/2021 18:32:49 2 1
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No and no.
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01/03/2021 18:35:59 3 2
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How is it there in North Korea?
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01/03/2021 18:25:08 3 35
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:27:48 47 3
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You just repeated yourself. If it didn't make sense the first time, repetition certainly isn't going to clarify things.
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01/03/2021 18:25:59 6 15
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Great short term results, what about long term effects, just wondering ???????
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01/03/2021 18:27:49 6 2
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I'm also wondering what next weeks lotery numbers are.
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01/03/2021 18:25:59 6 15
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Great short term results, what about long term effects, just wondering ???????
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01/03/2021 18:28:03 2 1
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If we are all vaccinated and and it causes issues with a few thousand over the next x number of years, that is better than a few hundred thousand dying every year.
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01/03/2021 18:40:57 1 1
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Why?

Would you be saying the same in x number of years if it's YOUR kids or grandkids that suffer due to 'effects' down the line? Not saying it'd happen. But no one can say that it won't.

But if the worst case was to happen. And it happened to your kin. I'm pretty damn sure your whole family will be sat there, palms open wide, demanding compensation from x parties involved.

Wolves and Sheep
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Did you hear that Macron? Removed
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01/03/2021 18:29:34 2 5
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:22:53 364 185
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credit to the government!
thank goodness we are not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:28:43 39 66
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UK deaths per 100,000 180. Worse than Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Spain ... etc etc. Even worse than US. But you be proud if you want to.
Sorry "peoples poet". I was answering "Hex" who wanted to turn this into a justification for xenophobia. Removed
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01/03/2021 20:23:41 3 1
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Wait until the final count numpty. Also we have one of the most densely packed diverse so BAME heavy population in Europe and the added sadness of the Kent variant. Further if you are going to trade meaningless per capita stats at this stage, look at Belgium
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01/03/2021 18:27:46 8 8
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It is compulsory to complete the 2021 census, yet not compulsory to have a Covid vaccination. Both are essential and both should be compulsory!
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OK nazi Removed
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01/03/2021 18:29:02 3 12
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It makes you wonder why, if the age groups at most risk were over 70 years of age, why the trials to prove its efficacy were carried out on younger groups.

Perhaps our scientists are not as smart as some would have us believe?

It gave bodies like the EU the opportunity to rubbish the Astra vaccination.
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01/03/2021 18:33:03 4 1
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The trials were carried out on all age groups including over 70's but obviously there are a lot more people under 70 than there are over.
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01/03/2021 18:34:54 3 1
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The obvious answer is that there were fewer of this age group to experiment on. You cannot ignore the fragility of this group and it is childish to do so. The EU's ignorance is their fault not ours. Stop finding any and every excuse to bash the UK for goodness sakes.
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01/03/2021 18:36:09 1 1
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The scientists are clever - the trials were done on volunteers, if more of the older population volunteered then they would have had the statistics.
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01/03/2021 19:13:26 0 1
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If you look in the Oxford publications, you'll see there were a significant number of over-65s in the trials.
Trouble was that they were "sensible" and didn't go out and about and didn't go to places where they might catch the virus - the idea in trials is that people in the control group catch it vs those vaccinated don't given equal exposure..
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01/03/2021 18:19:42 5 5
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Are the number of hospitalizations not going down because we are in lockdown though?!Hopefully this has been considered in the analysis.
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HL
01/03/2021 18:29:08 0 1
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Think they'll have thought of that!
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01/03/2021 18:29:18 4 21
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Imagine where we would be if Mrs Thatcher was in charge....

All dead probably.
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01/03/2021 18:35:08 2 7
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Yeah well at least everyone north of Birningham. She was bad to the bone,
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01/03/2021 18:36:00 2 2
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There would have been no lockdown and she would have made people pay for the vaccine.
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01/03/2021 18:42:27 2 2
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Buried in a coal mine.
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01/03/2021 19:04:31 1 1
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Thatcher............constantly slated by the press and left wing, but won three General Elections, two by a landslide. She polarised opinion, but most of the Uk was consistently of her opinion.
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01/03/2021 18:24:08 238 30
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Get the jab everyone.
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01/03/2021 18:29:33 53 442
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No thanks
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01/03/2021 18:39:50 88 15
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Hope you adopt the same attitude if you ever get the virus..... no treatment!!!
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01/03/2021 18:41:17 6 3
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Nah you’re alright thanks!
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01/03/2021 18:48:16 57 9
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Fine please go to back of the queue for beds when you get I’ll.
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01/03/2021 18:53:01 28 8
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Luckily vaccine refusers are now an extreme minority. So much so that the BBC will probably start to like you now.
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nps
01/03/2021 19:09:38 21 6
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If not don’t come out stay indoors forever
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01/03/2021 19:22:29 10 3
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Your choice,hope you dont suffer too much
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dog
01/03/2021 19:57:09 10 3
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Dont whinge if you cop it.
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01/03/2021 20:17:11 15 4
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See you in the pub then - NOT; see you on holiday then - Not. Without a vaccine passport you're going nowhere - LOL
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01/03/2021 20:25:41 13 4
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Selfish person
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KR
01/03/2021 20:31:57 3 6
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Fair play. Uptake of the vaccine is optional and people should have the right to choose as to whether or not they want it. They shouldn't be criticised for not wanting it either as it would be their own personal choice.
Just go away and die Removed
GOM
01/03/2021 20:54:25 7 4
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brian, given you say "No thanks" to being injected with vaccine, do you also intend to say "No thanks" to being injected with the treatment Remdesivir if you catch the virus?
fos
01/03/2021 21:21:37 1 2
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We know were you are when you touch a computer or phone connected to the bbc website we can control you (Bill)
01/03/2021 21:58:43 7 1
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Aanother one who knows better than doctors and scientists.
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01/03/2021 22:11:17 6 2
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Hopefully the government will introduce vaccination passports for pubs, clubs, restaurants, theatres, sporting events & other venues where social mixing occurs.
It'll certainly bring about a significant increase the average intelligence quota of those present...
01/03/2021 22:50:55 2 1
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Your teeth must be in a terrible state if you are so scared of needles.
02/03/2021 00:14:48 0 0
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Yes look at the mortality 18-30s?
02/03/2021 00:07:38 0 0
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Don’t worry - if Covid doesn’t finish you off, natural selection will
02/03/2021 00:16:37 0 0
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everyone except you then
Did you hear that Macron? Removed
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01/03/2021 18:29:34 2 5
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Only for people above 65.
Wonder why Stanley johnson got the Pfizer and the 2 does on time. Not one. Think about it.
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01/03/2021 18:29:57 12 4
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Is it me or does Matt Hancock approach every conference like a middle manager job interview where everything is an "important question" and he always tries just a bit too hard to please everyone.

As for JVT he should be knighted or maybe make a statue to replace the ones being knocked down.
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01/03/2021 18:32:38 2 3
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Yes JVT. He said it was like a free kick when the whistle is blown, but then the whistle goes again before the ball hits the net, but the goal is given, only for VAR to rule it out and then back in and then out again.
Joke!!!??????
Let's make it logical - government should state following " if you aren't vaccinate yourself, you would pay for NHS from your pocket"

But!!! They know that covid is simple flu and not as it blowing up in the news
They forcing people to vaccinate themselves Against their wishings as a result , above option isn't exist !!!
Covid it's just a flu - don't kill yourself with vaccine
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01/03/2021 18:29:57 1 1
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Does Daddy know you are using the internet?
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01/03/2021 18:30:39 7 6
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It all depends on the covidiots that were out at the weekend as to how and when we come out of the lock down the vaccine is going great but the covidiots could slow Comming out of the lockdown
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01/03/2021 18:41:52 2 5
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Perhaps you could learn to write properly before you go around calling people idiots.
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01/03/2021 18:47:14 0 2
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Why? If you believe that the vaccine works what’s the problem?
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01/03/2021 18:22:23 182 41
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Matt , JVT ...can we please have a campaign to educate braindead people in supermarkets.

Every time I go there is nearly always someone behind me in the queue getting far too close , it winds me up no end .....Can you please tell them to keep their effing distance !
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Tell them yourself if you're that worried. If you won't do that, then shut up Removed
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01/03/2021 19:20:26 13 4
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Which is all we ask from the likes of bwian, shut up!!
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01/03/2021 19:55:55 4 1
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Sad Brian
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KS
01/03/2021 18:23:50 21 4
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Great news but if holidays are still uncertain why do we allow people from high risk countries in, it doesn’t make any sense.
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01/03/2021 18:30:44 9 3
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They allow them in but charge then £1,750 and 10 days in a hotel for the pleasure. It should be all travellers, but just the 33 high risk ones are fine. That £1,750 will put a LOT of folks off from travelling.
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01/03/2021 18:23:17 37 234
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Nothing to do with the EU. And by the way the EU ha fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it.
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01/03/2021 18:30:47 35 7
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Little consolation to those in the EU waiting for their first vaccine.
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01/03/2021 18:31:12 257 40
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Taxi for ..anti Vaxers and COVID deniers
and Remainers! Removed
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01/03/2021 18:45:33 35 10
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How about 'Tax' for them - make them pay if they need the NHS for covid due to their stupidity. Don't count them in cases or death numbers either.
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01/03/2021 20:07:28 0 1
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Taxi for 77 Brigade.
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01/03/2021 20:21:37 0 2
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You should become a politician with ideas like that
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01/03/2021 22:23:07 1 4
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I don’t think the 99.9% v the 0.1% who sadly have succumb with tested positive for and smaller percentage sadly passed directly from are anti vaxers, just more in tune with the figures which shout what the WHO, CMO and science stick by and still do. This is a Minor Viris to the majority of the population. The facts have been around capacity not the severity of the Virus. And lay at the Gov feet.,
01/03/2021 23:01:00 1 4
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Oh you poor brainwashed soul
We needed a vaccine passport system from the start.
Anyone presenting themself to A&E with their pulse ox falling through the floor after refusing a vaccine should pay full whack for their treatment or go home.
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01/03/2021 18:20:28 460 41
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A remarkable achievement, by the scientists and companies. On another note the UK has certainly showed the way forward.
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Yes a remarkable achievement. The propaganda is working a treat Removed
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01/03/2021 18:53:07 27 5
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As opposed to Brian's version of reality.
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01/03/2021 18:55:56 66 6
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I know. Curse those scientists and their research. Let's just listen to numpties on YouTube instead
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01/03/2021 18:58:16 39 9
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Oh dear, sour grapes from an anti-vaxxer, or are you Brian from Berlin?
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01/03/2021 19:12:47 8 52
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That's why this PR conference was called today. Distraction tactics again.
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01/03/2021 20:00:19 8 1
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reminds me of a Monty Python film - "the loaf of brian"

and someone is a sandwich short
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01/03/2021 20:06:50 17 1
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Whatever .... tough luck buster; loads of people are having the vaccine and all the anti-vaxxers are fighting a losing battle. Can't wait to have mine.
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01/03/2021 18:31:59 48 8
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one question for anti-vaxxers, Are they grateful to their parents for making sure they received their Polio/measles/mumps/ etc...vaccinations to protect them....when they did??
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01/03/2021 18:46:28 18 54
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Question for you, do we live in a free society or a dictatorship where people are forced to do things against their will and if you have your vaccine why do you care whether someone else does?
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01/03/2021 20:39:54 3 4
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you mean chemicals tested for a decade before approval? as i travelled for work i had yellow fever, typhoid and others. not anti. sceptical of testing protocols.
01/03/2021 21:07:41 3 5
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This jargon of "anti vaxers" is insidious.
It is inciting hate, as are many of the the posts on here.
What happened to this country's tolerance?
Stop the hate now.
PJ
01/03/2021 21:41:53 1 3
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Er, those had been fully tested with many years of long term safety data?
01/03/2021 21:49:12 2 9
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All those vaccines had years of efficacy and testing based on using partial active agents of the viruses. These vaccines are brand new and use RNA alterations and have had very limited testing (months on limited, mostly healthy individuals). Vax if you want to but I am happy to wait, and if I die because of my uncertainty then so be it.
02/03/2021 01:01:51 0 2
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Have you ever looked at the damage vaccines do to some people, probably not, the government knows best, just like they did with the Iraq war, sell the people a problem and we can do whatever we like even if it's based on lies,
02/03/2021 01:02:21 1 0
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Polio/Measles/etc. were real concerns.
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01/03/2021 18:23:17 37 234
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Nothing to do with the EU. And by the way the EU ha fully vaccinated much more than the UK. Google it.
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01/03/2021 18:32:27 36 7
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lol. not by percentage of population which is their preferred metric with good reason. Macron may agree with you though, Its hard to know with him as it depends what percentage of votes he will win or lose.
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01/03/2021 18:19:04 133 16
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Great news - the more people get vaccinated - the safer for everyone and the sooner we can get out of lockdown.So please - get down to your vaccination centre and take the jab.
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01/03/2021 18:32:33 25 235
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Nope. Not now, not ever
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01/03/2021 18:53:39 63 5
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Oh brian, give it a rest! We've got the message, you can get back to your cave now.
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01/03/2021 19:32:45 33 4
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Yes. now and forever
Repetitive prat! Removed
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01/03/2021 19:38:36 25 2
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Good. Get mine sooner the more who say no.
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01/03/2021 19:39:46 15 2
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Any particular reason why not?
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01/03/2021 19:56:37 24 3
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Sad, sad Brian
Your constant posting the same garbage shows you as an utter moron. Removed
So get used to no holidays no pub no shopping and possibly no job you anti gas tosser! Removed
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01/03/2021 20:26:51 22 1
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Clearly his parents didn't know how to spell 'brain'!
fwe
01/03/2021 20:48:50 12 1
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See you in intensive care.
01/03/2021 21:01:44 13 1
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Oh Brian I also know a Guy like you who believes in David Ike.
01/03/2021 21:04:16 20 1
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Ok Brian
Your freedom of choice..but please do not think that gives you the right to infect others or to receive medical help..
Are you trying to undermine the NHS & health of other citizens?
If you have evidence jabs are unsafe state them so experts can check & prevent a disaster..
If it's just your personal opinion you've said your piece several times..& you should go back into your closet.
GOM
01/03/2021 21:07:13 16 1
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brian, given you say "Nope. Not now, not ever" to being injected with a vaccine, do you also intend to say "Nope. Not now, not ever" to being injected with the treatment Remdesivir if you catch the virus?
01/03/2021 21:57:57 13 1
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You are brain dead
01/03/2021 22:10:18 9 1
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I bet you don’t eat your greens either!
01/03/2021 22:35:32 5 1
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If you catch covid then you should have to pay for any treatment you need privately and not use the nhs.
02/03/2021 01:17:58 1 0
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pillock!
02/03/2021 01:24:07 1 0
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brian nobody cares if you want to stay stupid, then do so.. now go away like a good wee boy...
02/03/2021 10:33:13 0 0
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Are you trolling or just a tw...at just need some attention bless...
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01/03/2021 18:29:57 12 4
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Is it me or does Matt Hancock approach every conference like a middle manager job interview where everything is an "important question" and he always tries just a bit too hard to please everyone.

As for JVT he should be knighted or maybe make a statue to replace the ones being knocked down.
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01/03/2021 18:32:38 2 3
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Yes JVT. He said it was like a free kick when the whistle is blown, but then the whistle goes again before the ball hits the net, but the goal is given, only for VAR to rule it out and then back in and then out again.
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01/03/2021 18:32:41 4 1
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This is positive news, on the face of it. Hopefully the metrics (deaths, cases, hospitalisations) will continue on a downward trend and we get the country moving again. My kids have had enough of not seeing their friends and not going to school/playing football (and I miss seeing my friends and family). Depending on hysteria about variants, could be 4 months before restrictions are removed ????.
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01/03/2021 18:27:46 8 8
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It is compulsory to complete the 2021 census, yet not compulsory to have a Covid vaccination. Both are essential and both should be compulsory!
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01/03/2021 18:32:49 2 1
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No and no.
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01/03/2021 18:22:32 473 89
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Had my az jab today?? v pleased! For the anti vax mob please just get it, you really think a govt this inept is capable of putting a microchip into a vaccine? They are barely capable of putting a cold coffee in the microwave never mind a microchip anywhere!!
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01/03/2021 18:32:51 31 152
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Really that’s what you think most people who don’t want this jab are worried about. Maybe it’s putting untested chemicals into themselves with no idea what the long term effects are going to be is what worries most of us. You crack on son, I’ll take my chance without it. By the way I have been tested, negative result, no symptoms, why do I need a vaccine
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01/03/2021 18:53:16 74 15
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The vaccine has been tested and you need the vaccine to stop getting COVID, your post is amazing. Maybe its not COVID you need to be tested for.
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01/03/2021 19:07:39 33 7
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Untested chemicals? I used to drop all sorts of drugs on nights out at uni. Most of those were probably made in someones bathtub. Guess what? I didn't die or become infertile. The vaccines are child's play compared to the stuff I put in myself.
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01/03/2021 19:32:03 20 3
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Your type is indeed better off without. The fewer the better.
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01/03/2021 20:31:06 13 4
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Errr because it doesnt mean you wont contract it or pass it on . Not having it when offered is more than baffling.
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01/03/2021 20:36:08 11 1
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It is tested. I dont really see the logic in your comment.
01/03/2021 20:46:26 10 1
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Could you let us have a list of the 'untested chemicals' the vaccine contains?

In your own time...
01/03/2021 20:55:11 3 1
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Cos you might catch it tomorrow!
misinformed folk can be educated. Some folk are so stupid their only hope is evolution rather than education. Good luck!
01/03/2021 21:28:37 7 2
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Simple really, without it, you'll not be able to travel abroad and you'll be prevented from mixing in places with folk who have had the jab. Your choice obvious, but life will be more restrictive without
01/03/2021 21:37:26 9 1
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Oh I do love the ill informed. Theres no chemicals in the vaccine, otherwise it would be called a drug. I expect you will benefit by hiding behind all those that are vaccinated and will be shouting “ See I didn’t get Covid, so the vaccine was unnecessary “ but in reality you are a reserve for the virus to mutate and start a new pandemic and cause others to die because of your selfishness.
01/03/2021 21:43:56 5 1
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What utter nonsense.
The vaccines have been extensively tested.
Hopefully you won't cause anyone any harm by becoming infected & then infecting others, or aiding the mutation of the virus.
Extremely selfish.
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01/03/2021 18:19:30 3 14
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dont worry we will still be in lockdown in june with virtually no cases, hiding behind the threat of the future.
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01/03/2021 18:32:52 1 2
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Don't you do capital letters?
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01/03/2021 18:29:02 3 12
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It makes you wonder why, if the age groups at most risk were over 70 years of age, why the trials to prove its efficacy were carried out on younger groups.

Perhaps our scientists are not as smart as some would have us believe?

It gave bodies like the EU the opportunity to rubbish the Astra vaccination.
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01/03/2021 18:33:03 4 1
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The trials were carried out on all age groups including over 70's but obviously there are a lot more people under 70 than there are over.
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01/03/2021 18:20:21 5 3
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Because there are a lot of people still being admitted to hospital who have not had the vaccine yet.
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01/03/2021 18:33:07 2 5
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Well hospital admissions are actually now we’ll below 1,000 and the figure for the UK on 27th February (which won’t be on the dashboard for a couple of days) was only 754, compared to a peak of 4,576 so that’s not really the case.
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01/03/2021 18:31:12 257 40
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Taxi for ..anti Vaxers and COVID deniers
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and Remainers! Removed
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01/03/2021 19:22:16 17 39
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More appropriate to tax the Brexiteers to make up for the costs of Brexit.
Delusional to the end.
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01/03/2021 18:27:17 330 15
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Surely this is better news than we could have dreamed of even 6 months ago. The aim of the vaccination was to cut hospitalisation and deaths, anything else is a bonus. We will never stop people from getting mild illnesses and as long as the vaccine prevents people getting ill or dying, bring it on and get it in the arms of people.
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01/03/2021 18:33:13 16 355
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No
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01/03/2021 18:48:32 43 1
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Someone got out of the wrong side of the bed today ;-)
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dog
01/03/2021 20:02:19 18 7
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Momentum conspiracy to destroy the country. Still havent got over Brexit and landslide election.??????
01/03/2021 20:57:59 3 1
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I'd rather not if you don't mind.
01/03/2021 22:31:08 3 1
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Great reposte you muppet.
Ian
01/03/2021 23:17:16 0 1
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Mmmm, explain your simple “no”
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01/03/2021 18:22:53 364 185
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credit to the government!
thank goodness we are not in the E.U.
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01/03/2021 18:33:15 47 48
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Nothing to do with the government, thats why its been successful ;)
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01/03/2021 18:50:28 16 3
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Who ordered the vaccines?
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01/03/2021 20:04:43 9 2
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Err right, happened by accident did it. Can imagine you also believe Jeremy Corbyn would have done a better job, had he been in charge.
01/03/2021 22:33:10 1 2
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Typical leftist nonsense.
The whole project has been organised by the government, using it's executive arms, the NHS & army, along with specialist logistics companies, GPs(private contractors if you didn't know) & a host of volunteers(organised through the efforts of the vaccination minister...).
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01/03/2021 18:25:59 6 15
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Great short term results, what about long term effects, just wondering ???????
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01/03/2021 18:33:16 2 2
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The long- term effects are clear: anti-vaxers will not be able to travel and will have to continue to isolate. The people who have been vaccinated will live long and prosper!
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01/03/2021 18:38:29 0 1
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I’m sure it won’t be long before you can simply google up a vaccine cert unless they are produced with security devices embedded.
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01/03/2021 18:33:23 72 5
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Great news and thanks to the NHS teams the armed forces along with many volunteers who have made this a success thanks to must also go to Professor Sarah Gilbert and Professor Andrew Pollard's teams and the scientists Ugur Sahin and Ozlem Turec who developed the vaccines we are using.
02/03/2021 01:08:21 11 5
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And to the Govt for backing tham and getting the orders in when they did.
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01/03/2021 18:28:43 39 66
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UK deaths per 100,000 180. Worse than Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Spain ... etc etc. Even worse than US. But you be proud if you want to.
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Sorry "peoples poet". I was answering "Hex" who wanted to turn this into a justification for xenophobia. Removed
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01/03/2021 18:33:41 271 12
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Don't forget what they tell you at first jab - it takes 22 days to build up antibodies.
The first 4 groups , the 15 million, reach their 22 day point at the weekend at latest
The further 5 million since then will have anti bodies 2 weeks later.
Results so far are great and can only get better
Don't drop your guard while vaccine takes effect, continue to protect the unvaccinated younger people
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01/03/2021 18:43:54 62 362
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You mean the younger people that this Govt doesn’t care about and has thrown under the bus?
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01/03/2021 19:14:24 3 13
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Thanks for the advice. You should be a doctor.
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01/03/2021 20:21:46 13 7
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The younger ones are fine. Stop panicking ffs
01/03/2021 20:54:08 3 2
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It is not a switch. Antibodies start building up immediately after the jab.
01/03/2021 21:46:38 0 4
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No one told me that. There was no timescale mentioned. I was told to carry on as before.
01/03/2021 23:12:32 0 3
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and you are ------------------?
02/03/2021 06:44:09 0 0
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schools will vaccinate soon