Improved Ireland cruise past poor Italy
27/02/2021 | sport | rugbyunion | 536
Ireland run in six tries to claim a much-needed first win of this year's Six Nations in a one-sided contest against a poor Italy
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27/02/2021 16:31:25 4 1
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Did the ref get a new whistle?
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27/02/2021 16:40:54 5 2
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How many perfectly good tries did he and the tmo disallow ( wrongly).
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27/02/2021 16:32:41 24 5
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There’s something not right in Italian rugby. Around 2008 to 2013 they were starting to look like a good squad but since then they have got worse and worse.
I don’t know if it’s poor administration, low grassroots set up, bad coaching or something else
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27/02/2021 16:36:44 14 3
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One promising thing is they have got a very young team that if Franco Smith does the right thing then they could become a decent team
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27/02/2021 16:37:55 2 2
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Agreed. The clubs had a flash of promise around the same time, too, but the numbers probably just aren't providing the depth to compete with ever-improving nations. It wasn't that long ago that they notched the wins against Ireland & France, however. So it can be done. But the trajectory is clear. They are not good enough.
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27/02/2021 18:04:19 1 5
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Almost no one cares in Italy. Niche sport with few fans, no grassroots and absent from schools. I have family in Italy and I know they have never watched a game ever.
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Daz
27/02/2021 16:33:49 3 7
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Please kick Italy out! They are an embarrassment. Add Japan.
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27/02/2021 16:35:17 3 7
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What is the point of Italy!!!
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27/02/2021 16:40:57 3 3
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Yes, too far off the required level nowadays. Georgia et al. are unlikely to fare any better.

To make up the numbers in the six nations, how about asking all those ex-pat players in Europe to make up an annual Southern hemisphere invitational fifteen (twenty-three)? oh, hang on...

Let's just go back to the five nations.
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27/02/2021 16:35:53 8 9
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Ireland are a poor side who lack Wales's luck
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28/02/2021 13:01:05 2 0
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They are either a good side or they had loads of luck today!!!! 6 times to be precise, should have been at least 7 if the ref and TMO hadn't been so poor!
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28/02/2021 17:39:32 0 0
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I think you are right. I don't think Ireland showed much in the way of enterprise.
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27/02/2021 16:36:18 6 4
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Time for Italy to go unfortunately...
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27/02/2021 16:32:41 24 5
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There’s something not right in Italian rugby. Around 2008 to 2013 they were starting to look like a good squad but since then they have got worse and worse.
I don’t know if it’s poor administration, low grassroots set up, bad coaching or something else
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27/02/2021 16:36:44 14 3
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One promising thing is they have got a very young team that if Franco Smith does the right thing then they could become a decent team
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27/02/2021 16:37:41 14 6
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Another shock defeat for Italy, nobody saw that coming.
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27/02/2021 16:32:41 24 5
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There’s something not right in Italian rugby. Around 2008 to 2013 they were starting to look like a good squad but since then they have got worse and worse.
I don’t know if it’s poor administration, low grassroots set up, bad coaching or something else
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27/02/2021 16:37:55 2 2
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Agreed. The clubs had a flash of promise around the same time, too, but the numbers probably just aren't providing the depth to compete with ever-improving nations. It wasn't that long ago that they notched the wins against Ireland & France, however. So it can be done. But the trajectory is clear. They are not good enough.
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27/02/2021 17:50:01 1 1
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The wins against Ireland and France were in 2013.

9 seasons ago.
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27/02/2021 16:38:53 7 2
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Italy do show moments of promise but they just make too many errors. It's so frustrating to watch them. I really hope Franco Smith can do something more with them as they definitely have potential.
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27/02/2021 16:42:20 8 5
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They've had potential for 20 years - it's not enough.
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27/02/2021 16:48:48 2 1
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They have to play at the absolute limit to even have a slight chance of competing, and that inevitably leads to mistakes, and overstepping the mark at the ruck etc which gives away penalties.
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27/02/2021 17:02:26 2 1
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One win since the 2014 season. That's one win in the last 38 matches. Just how long are they going to have 'potential' for
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27/02/2021 16:39:20 7 2
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Bottom team should be relegated and a second tier team promoted. Italy have had their chance.
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27/02/2021 16:31:25 4 1
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Did the ref get a new whistle?
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27/02/2021 16:40:54 5 2
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How many perfectly good tries did he and the tmo disallow ( wrongly).
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27/02/2021 16:54:57 1 3
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Only the first one was wrongly disallowed in my opinion. (Henderson's)
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27/02/2021 16:35:17 3 7
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What is the point of Italy!!!
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27/02/2021 16:40:57 3 3
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Yes, too far off the required level nowadays. Georgia et al. are unlikely to fare any better.

To make up the numbers in the six nations, how about asking all those ex-pat players in Europe to make up an annual Southern hemisphere invitational fifteen (twenty-three)? oh, hang on...

Let's just go back to the five nations.
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27/02/2021 16:41:07 14 5
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A decent but totally expected result. Ireland can't really crow too much though as Italy have regressed so much over the last 5 or 6 years it's getting beyond embarrassing. Feel sorry for the team and their fans.
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28/02/2021 13:03:02 2 0
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The Ireland fans aren't crowing, they're just happy with the win!
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28/02/2021 14:39:37 0 0
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Nobody 'Crowing' in Ireland. Happy to get a win with an improved attacking display but, we are very well aware of the quality of the opponents. Murrayfield will be a major step up.
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27/02/2021 16:41:52 61 7
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Sam Warburton's assessment of this Italy team a fortnight ago was 100% spot on, nobody expects them after 21 years of taking on Europe's best International sides to be challenging for the title, but by now they should atleast be able to put out a team that can provide a reasonable challenge. After 30 defeats on the bounce, their contribution to this competition is now becoming an annual farce.
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27/02/2021 18:01:24 23 14
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Why should they be competitive? They are, the actual Italians on the team, from a country where rugby is a niche sport that the vast majority of the population have never watched a game - and the game is not played in the schools.

It's like England's handball team - rubbish because it's niche.
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You
27/02/2021 18:23:48 6 9
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In contrast, England, a country that has more registered rugby players than anywhere else on the planet shouldn't be serial losers in the world cup.
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27/02/2021 18:46:46 6 5
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England are useless too. Should be replaced with Romania.
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27/02/2021 19:06:27 4 3
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England lost to Wales again. Kickem out.
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27/02/2021 21:03:02 0 3
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He also proposed a meaningless playoff match with the winner ( probably Italy ) taking Italy's place in the 6 Nations. Italy's problem is just the size of the playing pool and that they only have 2 club sides. No point replacing Italy with Georgia so it would be preferable to have a 5 Nations again rather than a C'ship decided by who can run up the highest score v Italy / Georgia.
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ljs
27/02/2021 16:41:55 8 4
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Is it time to consider promotion of Georgia or Russia ??
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27/02/2021 17:00:29 11 7
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No, just get rid of Italy and go back to the 5 nations.
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27/02/2021 18:56:05 2 1
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Spain much better than Russia. Also they gave Georgia a good game last year.
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SV
27/02/2021 16:42:01 22 6
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30 straight losses for Italy, enough is enough, we need to see Georgia involved. Either expand to a 7N with promotion and relegation to the rest of Europe or play a two-legged playoff in the autumn for the 6th place in the 6N.

At the very least, we need to see Italy play Georgia once again, the last match was in November 2018 in Florence and Italy won 27-18. Time for Italy to go to Tblisi?
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27/02/2021 18:05:37 18 13
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Georgia are weaker than Italy. Someone would stick 70 plus points on them.

What needs to be done is called the Five Nations.
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27/02/2021 19:36:46 2 1
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I’m in favour of the autumn playoff to decide the right to 6 nations. It would add spice maybe to add the lowest placed gone nation team into the equation ( but they cant be relegated. Make autumn exciting .
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28/02/2021 13:34:01 0 2
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Adding Georgia will not help, they are worse than Italy. Two things need to happen. IRB needs to invest in all countries to develop the game so Italy and others have a chance to compete. And based on yesterday's farcical officiating in both games, there needs to be a root a branch review of refereeing standards and something done to improve the consistency and balance in officiating
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28/02/2021 18:11:28 0 0
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Georgia are no better
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28/02/2021 19:06:22 1 0
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I think something along the lines of last years Autumn cup should be considered. I have no idea how it could work as, obviously, the big money is in seeing the big NH teams take on the big SH teams. Maybe a schedule that gives 'emerging' nations a competition with the top 2 being included in the Autumn internationals. Imagine how good Fiji could be if they played together more often ??
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27/02/2021 16:42:11 11 5
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Italy dont add much to the 6 Nations....
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27/02/2021 16:38:53 7 2
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Italy do show moments of promise but they just make too many errors. It's so frustrating to watch them. I really hope Franco Smith can do something more with them as they definitely have potential.
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27/02/2021 16:42:20 8 5
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They've had potential for 20 years - it's not enough.
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SV
27/02/2021 16:43:38 10 2
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Also, really hope Uruguay become Americas 1 as I think after beating Fiji in Japan they also have the potential to beat Italy in France 2023 thus forcing Italy to qualify for the RWC in 2027 - this would force World Rugby's hand as Italy would have to, at last, play the other European nations regularly.

Will be very interesting to see how Uruguay fare against Italy this autumn also.
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27/02/2021 20:07:43 1 3
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With all due credit to Uruguay, their win had more to do with Fiji only having a 4 day turnaround after a physically & mentally draining game against Australia than it did to Uruguay’s play.

Italy have close to zero chance of beating either NZ or Fra, therefore their main focus will be to ensure 3rd place & auto qualification for 2027.

Uruguay have little chance of qualifying ahead of USA
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27/02/2021 16:43:54 13 12
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I do not support getting rid of Italy. I say invite Canada, the USA, Georgia, Romania, Russia and South Africa in and expand the tournament, to two conferences of 6, with the winners of each conference playing each other at the end of each season. Expand rugby, do not destroy it in Italy. Italy is a great nation.
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27/02/2021 16:59:38 5 6
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I agree and I like your idea, but I think it would work better as 2 divisions with promotion and relegation of one team each season. That would give everyone something to play for. I would keep it in Europe, so Div 2 might start off being Georgia, Romania, Netherlands, Russia, Spain & Portugal.
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27/02/2021 16:59:49 2 2
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Nonsense suggestion. The big games, the great traditional rivalries would be watered down as the home nations would play each other a lot less.
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27/02/2021 17:24:16 2 1
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I think Rugby is too fringe a sport in most of those places for them ever to be competitve. Even in Italy its popularity is pretty minimal outside Veneto and the north east and being in the 6 nations hasn't made it massively more popular. There is no point in having a tournament where the ome nations and France play fewer games against each other just to have more games against whipping boys.
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27/02/2021 22:04:17 0 0
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In the eastern hemisphere N Z , OZ and S A could include Fiji, Samoa ,Tonga and Japan all of whom are more capable of playing tier 1 rugby than Italy if we really want to expand the game.
As for your conferences, instead of having just Italy getting tanked every year there will be 5 others suffering the same fate. South Africa already play with the big boys
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gg
27/02/2021 16:44:01 5 7
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A predictable win for Ireland but so boring to watch and still making school boy errrors, that wee scrumhalf who came on needs to quicken up his passing.
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27/02/2021 17:46:11 4 1
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Boring? Better than Englands match. Wee scrumhalf? Do you mean the one who moves twice as fast as Youngs, or are you trying to be ironic?
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28/02/2021 18:23:31 0 0
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Bless him he only looked about 12
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27/02/2021 16:45:11 16 4
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Add another league, georgia, Spain, Romanian etc. Relegate the bottom club in 6 nations and promote the top in the 2nd division. 2nd tier clubs would really benefit from this competition.
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27/02/2021 17:56:44 14 1
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The league you want already exists - the European Nations Cup. There's a full league structure of divisions 2, 3, 4 below the 6N.

The only reason nobody hears about it is the "closed shop" attitude of the 6N.

Can you imagine English football in which the winner of the Championship is told "sorry you can never win promotion to PL"? It would be called a farce - yet this is what R.U. actually does!
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27/02/2021 16:46:09 15 8
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That was pitiful. It was like watching a middleweight boxer beat up a flyweight.
How long can these unedifying non contests be allowed to continue?

Running up a score against Italy is one thing, but Ireland will struggle to score tries against good defences.
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27/02/2021 17:47:40 5 3
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Remind me - what was the England-Italy score?
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28/02/2021 17:50:55 0 0
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I think you're right, they're still mainly barging away.
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27/02/2021 16:46:57 0 12
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At least this result will keep Andy O'Farrell in his job for another week. The Irish want to get rid of him. Veiled racism from an Irish ex-player saying he showed no direction. As you'd expect.
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27/02/2021 17:09:10 4 4
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Veiled racism? Don't be ridiculous. O'Farrell and his coaching team have been poor to date. Not to mention, O'Farrell is an Irish name. (obviously)
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27/02/2021 17:24:43 4 1
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“The Irish” want to get rid of him. What? The irfu? The press? The Irish public? What are you actually trying to say? Wrong either way, they want the team to start playing with more cohesion and today was a small step in the right direction.

Stop stirring. You’re not very good at it
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27/02/2021 17:51:18 3 2
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How could it be racism against somebody of Irish origin?!
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27/02/2021 17:59:23 3 1
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Grow up and find another forum for your immature poison.
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27/02/2021 16:38:53 7 2
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Italy do show moments of promise but they just make too many errors. It's so frustrating to watch them. I really hope Franco Smith can do something more with them as they definitely have potential.
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27/02/2021 16:48:48 2 1
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They have to play at the absolute limit to even have a slight chance of competing, and that inevitably leads to mistakes, and overstepping the mark at the ruck etc which gives away penalties.
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27/02/2021 16:51:47 7 2
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thats as bad as ive seen italy for a while.
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27/02/2021 21:26:48 2 2
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Since two weeks ago v England where poor officiating gave England at least 14 points and also denied Italy between 3 and 14?
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27/02/2021 16:40:54 5 2
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How many perfectly good tries did he and the tmo disallow ( wrongly).
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27/02/2021 16:54:57 1 3
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Only the first one was wrongly disallowed in my opinion. (Henderson's)
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27/02/2021 16:55:11 5 2
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The Italian Rugby system doesn't produce enough competitive players. No head coach can do anything about that; it's a grass roots problem.

Kinda like how England don't produce enough technically skilled players in football. All boils down to the grass roots.
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27/02/2021 16:43:54 13 12
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I do not support getting rid of Italy. I say invite Canada, the USA, Georgia, Romania, Russia and South Africa in and expand the tournament, to two conferences of 6, with the winners of each conference playing each other at the end of each season. Expand rugby, do not destroy it in Italy. Italy is a great nation.
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27/02/2021 16:59:38 5 6
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I agree and I like your idea, but I think it would work better as 2 divisions with promotion and relegation of one team each season. That would give everyone something to play for. I would keep it in Europe, so Div 2 might start off being Georgia, Romania, Netherlands, Russia, Spain & Portugal.
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28/02/2021 00:40:02 0 0
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Already exists with 4 more tiers of international rugby (see Rugby Europe). The only thing missing is promotion/relegation between the 6 Nations and the top tier (which Georgia have won for about the last 15 years running!)
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27/02/2021 16:43:54 13 12
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I do not support getting rid of Italy. I say invite Canada, the USA, Georgia, Romania, Russia and South Africa in and expand the tournament, to two conferences of 6, with the winners of each conference playing each other at the end of each season. Expand rugby, do not destroy it in Italy. Italy is a great nation.
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27/02/2021 16:59:49 2 2
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Nonsense suggestion. The big games, the great traditional rivalries would be watered down as the home nations would play each other a lot less.
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ljs
27/02/2021 16:41:55 8 4
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Is it time to consider promotion of Georgia or Russia ??
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27/02/2021 17:00:29 11 7
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No, just get rid of Italy and go back to the 5 nations.
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27/02/2021 18:29:53 3 2
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Expand the game.....that is a ridiculous attitude. Absolutely ridiculous.
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27/02/2021 17:00:30 4 4
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Its about time they dropped Italy and played Home and Away make it more interesting. These Italian games are only played so they can get the points system up ??
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27/02/2021 17:05:55 4 3
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Also to do with money.
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27/02/2021 17:02:06 6 2
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Shocking officiating at this level, a couple of tries chalked off for absolutely nothing.
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27/02/2021 17:21:23 8 7
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Try watching the joker officiating the Wales England game
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27/02/2021 17:02:22 1 6
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A few divisions of 4 (northern hemisphere nations playing home and away) would likely mean fewer one-sided games and improvement in the lower sides
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27/02/2021 16:38:53 7 2
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Italy do show moments of promise but they just make too many errors. It's so frustrating to watch them. I really hope Franco Smith can do something more with them as they definitely have potential.
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27/02/2021 17:02:26 2 1
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One win since the 2014 season. That's one win in the last 38 matches. Just how long are they going to have 'potential' for
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27/02/2021 17:05:14 25 14
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Sorry - but time for Italy to go.
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27/02/2021 23:31:15 3 0
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Ah come on ! Missed tackles is their downfall. A proper defensive coach would make them far more competitive. Okay! Georgia should be given a play off option against the last team. Who else is there?
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28/02/2021 18:15:46 0 0
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They sre stake holders cannot just discard them
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27/02/2021 17:00:30 4 4
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Its about time they dropped Italy and played Home and Away make it more interesting. These Italian games are only played so they can get the points system up ??
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27/02/2021 17:05:55 4 3
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Also to do with money.
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27/02/2021 16:46:57 0 12
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At least this result will keep Andy O'Farrell in his job for another week. The Irish want to get rid of him. Veiled racism from an Irish ex-player saying he showed no direction. As you'd expect.
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27/02/2021 17:09:10 4 4
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Veiled racism? Don't be ridiculous. O'Farrell and his coaching team have been poor to date. Not to mention, O'Farrell is an Irish name. (obviously)
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27/02/2021 17:11:36 7 8
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Italy are always the whipping boys in this tournament, needs to be reduced to the five nations!
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27/02/2021 17:17:02 7 5
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That kid who came on at scrum half for Ireland is clearly Michael flatley’s lovecbild. Flatley lived in cork for years. Bit of explaining for casey’s mammy to do.
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27/02/2021 19:05:03 2 2
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Casey is from Limerick
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27/02/2021 17:17:09 1 9
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Ireland lucky to get the win, like to see them play 15.
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27/02/2021 17:19:56 4 2
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Yeah, Italy’s discipline is very poor.

As for the win, comfortable won and o oh got to keep about half of their scores
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27/02/2021 17:17:27 13 3
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For fixture convenience it should be the 6N but Italy should have to qualify against the likes of Georgia

The competition and the occasional win will be good for them. Surely even they are not enjoying the current situation knowing with almost 100% certainty that they will lose every game
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27/02/2021 18:08:06 8 10
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Georgia are even worse. You can't make a nation where the sport is on the fringe into a competitive one.

The correct replacement team would be S Africa.
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27/02/2021 17:18:32 12 4
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absolute joke that Italy are playing at this level; we need 2 tiers... 5 Nations + Italy, Spain, Romania, Georgia and Russia in "European Championship" below. Promotion and relegation in strictly defined situations, and criterias met.
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27/02/2021 17:20:45 15 9
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Where do to think the blazers prefer going for weekend? Italy or Romania?
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27/02/2021 18:06:41 1 4
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Would be even worse than the current situation. Rugby is hardly known in most of those countries. It's a fringe sport.
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27/02/2021 22:51:02 1 0
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What would the strictly defined situations be? Far better to have a promotion/relegation play-off between winners of ERC and 6N wooden spoon.
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27/02/2021 23:47:08 1 0
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Already exists with promotion/relegation, look at www.rugbyeurope.eu. There is less difference in level between sides there. Portugal came up from the third European tier last time and came third in the Championship. Germany got relegated and were thrashed at home by the Netherlands in the third tier. Netherlands now play Belgium for promotion.
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27/02/2021 17:17:09 1 9
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Ireland lucky to get the win, like to see them play 15.
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27/02/2021 17:19:56 4 2
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Yeah, Italy’s discipline is very poor.

As for the win, comfortable won and o oh got to keep about half of their scores
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27/02/2021 17:18:32 12 4
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absolute joke that Italy are playing at this level; we need 2 tiers... 5 Nations + Italy, Spain, Romania, Georgia and Russia in "European Championship" below. Promotion and relegation in strictly defined situations, and criterias met.
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27/02/2021 17:20:45 15 9
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Where do to think the blazers prefer going for weekend? Italy or Romania?
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27/02/2021 18:08:53 0 1
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Sadly... you are correct.
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27/02/2021 17:02:06 6 2
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Shocking officiating at this level, a couple of tries chalked off for absolutely nothing.
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27/02/2021 17:21:23 8 7
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Try watching the joker officiating the Wales England game
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27/02/2021 17:22:53 3 7
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Italy are a joke. I'm sorry but 30 losses in a row? Georgia would be a better team and would make games out of it.
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27/02/2021 17:28:58 1 2
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Italy is a nice jolly for a weekend though, so you will never persuade the blazers to change.
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:26:46 5 3
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No one really care about your insular pettiness.
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27/02/2021 17:28:07 3 2
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Boring hatred. Give it a rest.
This is sport moron keep your bigotry to yourself Troll. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:30:07 3 2
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small minded bigot
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27/02/2021 17:37:35 3 1
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The "Tri-colour" happens to be Ireland's national flag!
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27/02/2021 18:11:14 0 1
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You think the orange part of the tricolour is meant to be anti-unionist?
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27/02/2021 16:43:54 13 12
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I do not support getting rid of Italy. I say invite Canada, the USA, Georgia, Romania, Russia and South Africa in and expand the tournament, to two conferences of 6, with the winners of each conference playing each other at the end of each season. Expand rugby, do not destroy it in Italy. Italy is a great nation.
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27/02/2021 17:24:16 2 1
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I think Rugby is too fringe a sport in most of those places for them ever to be competitve. Even in Italy its popularity is pretty minimal outside Veneto and the north east and being in the 6 nations hasn't made it massively more popular. There is no point in having a tournament where the ome nations and France play fewer games against each other just to have more games against whipping boys.
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28/02/2021 00:41:58 0 0
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Not true. Take a look at the attendances Georgia get at home for big rugby matches
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27/02/2021 16:46:57 0 12
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At least this result will keep Andy O'Farrell in his job for another week. The Irish want to get rid of him. Veiled racism from an Irish ex-player saying he showed no direction. As you'd expect.
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27/02/2021 17:24:43 4 1
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“The Irish” want to get rid of him. What? The irfu? The press? The Irish public? What are you actually trying to say? Wrong either way, they want the team to start playing with more cohesion and today was a small step in the right direction.

Stop stirring. You’re not very good at it
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27/02/2021 17:24:48 0 6
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Farrell out
RO'G in
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27/02/2021 17:45:22 0 2
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Rog is nowhere near ready. Cullen would be a stronger shout, and I wouldn’t put him into that role
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27/02/2021 17:49:43 3 1
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Give Farrell a chance. The games we lost we could have won. Had Burns last minute penalty against Wales landed 5m in front of the corner flag, we would likely have scored and won. We played more than an hour with 14. Had Lowe not brushed the touchline and scored against France, we could won that game. And remember how many players we were missing.
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27/02/2021 18:07:47 2 4
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RO'G is Irish and not qualified for England. And he doesn't play any more. Didn't you know?
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27/02/2021 18:10:16 2 2
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Stuart Lancaster is the strongest candidate for me, farrell is not at international coach material.
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:26:46 5 3
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No one really care about your insular pettiness.
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27/02/2021 17:31:20 1 3
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Calling out bigotry/xenophobia/racism is pettiness????

The Enish can't even sing Swing Low without being hauled over the coals of Liberal ire.
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:28:07 3 2
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Boring hatred. Give it a rest.
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27/02/2021 17:28:18 2 2
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Italy not quite good enough
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27/02/2021 17:29:47 1 1
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Gosh!
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27/02/2021 17:22:53 3 7
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Italy are a joke. I'm sorry but 30 losses in a row? Georgia would be a better team and would make games out of it.
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27/02/2021 17:28:58 1 2
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Italy is a nice jolly for a weekend though, so you will never persuade the blazers to change.
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
This is sport moron keep your bigotry to yourself Troll. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:29:11 5 3
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Arriverderci. How can Italy be getting anything out of these pummellings? Surely they would benefit from dropping out. Like in the footy, we now have the likes of Gibraltar and Andorra playing equally rubbish teams more often, but they might actually learn something and pick up the odd win, as opposed to getting pasted EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. Unfortunately, this is where Italy are now.
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27/02/2021 17:28:18 2 2
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Italy not quite good enough
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27/02/2021 17:29:47 1 1
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Gosh!
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:30:07 3 2
bbc
small minded bigot
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dog
27/02/2021 17:30:56 2 3
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Conratulations Ireland. Just watching England v Wales and France.
Ireland - not even a country , shouldn’t be allowed in the 6 nations. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:34:25 8 2
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What on earth are you talking about? ??
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27/02/2021 17:36:29 6 2
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You are aware that England, Scotland and Wales are not countries aren’t you?

The irony of a post illustrating nothing but uneducated ignorance of someone’s own identity ??
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27/02/2021 17:36:51 6 1
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Sick. Twisted. Sad. Go away.
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Someone has been bouncing you on your head Muppet Removed
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27/02/2021 17:57:10 0 1
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If you want to quibble, Rugby Ireland is 1 1/4 countries. England is 1/4 country.
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27/02/2021 17:26:46 5 3
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No one really care about your insular pettiness.
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27/02/2021 17:31:20 1 3
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Calling out bigotry/xenophobia/racism is pettiness????

The Enish can't even sing Swing Low without being hauled over the coals of Liberal ire.
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27/02/2021 17:33:03 5 2
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Italy is world-renowned for many things. Fine wine, great food, fantastic sports cars, fashion, beautiful women. Unfortunately, playing rugby isn't one of them ??
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27/02/2021 17:47:41 4 1
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They always give it a go.
They've been improving in recent years.
Bikes, yes, but i wouldn't have one of their cars near me.
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28/02/2021 12:56:49 0 0
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I live in Italy and the area I live in has very little interest in any sport, cycling is popular but most of my neighbours are not interested, some of the farmers look like they are physically strong enough to play but they aren't tall enough to play the modern forward game, I am only 5'10" but feel like a giant sometimes
Ireland - not even a country , shouldn’t be allowed in the 6 nations. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:34:25 8 2
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What on earth are you talking about? ??
There is no such country. This team comes from Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. No 32 country exists. Sorted ?? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:45:40 0 3
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It's not the six countries or the six states.
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27/02/2021 17:48:16 4 1
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He's a troll, he's got form for this.
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27/02/2021 17:36:11 3 6
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There’s no one better than Italy. Georgia are on a par. We should go back to a 5N and give the players a bit more of a welfare break
Ireland - not even a country , shouldn’t be allowed in the 6 nations. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:36:29 6 2
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You are aware that England, Scotland and Wales are not countries aren’t you?

The irony of a post illustrating nothing but uneducated ignorance of someone’s own identity ??
Ireland - not even a country , shouldn’t be allowed in the 6 nations. Removed
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27/02/2021 17:36:51 6 1
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Sick. Twisted. Sad. Go away.
Irish games always spoilt by the flying of the sectarian (anti unionist) tricolour and the playing of the Republican Soldiers song. Thankfully no Fields of Anthenry due to lack of fans which is anti British. Why is this on the BBC site anyway? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:37:35 3 1
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The "Tri-colour" happens to be Ireland's national flag!
Ireland - not even a country , shouldn’t be allowed in the 6 nations. Removed
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dog
bbc
Removed
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27/02/2021 17:34:25 8 2
bbc
What on earth are you talking about? ??
There is no such country. This team comes from Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. No 32 country exists. Sorted ?? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:40:53 4 1
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Ignoramus. Go away
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27/02/2021 17:48:39 3 1
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So, basically, the IRFU predates the split of the Republic and the North, and was created when Ireland was a single country. ... Instead of dissolving the IRFU and creating two new rugby unions, they just kept it the way it was. Sorted ??
The EU aren't checking goods crossing the Irish 'border' ?? Removed
There is no such country. This team comes from Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. No 32 country exists. Sorted ?? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:40:53 4 1
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Ignoramus. Go away
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27/02/2021 17:40:54 21 18
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Well played Ireland, good to see them finally start clicking. At least this game is legitimate. England Wales is a ridiculous with this ref. Wales have not only been given 14 points, but it is tantamount to cheating??
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27/02/2021 17:43:15 14 15
bbc
Yep disgraceful decision. Adams try farcical, ref told Farrell speak to players then blew for time on! And how did Zammit not knock on. Ridiculous.
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27/02/2021 17:47:28 3 4
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It amazes me how many people post with knowing so little. I'm sure England have never had bad calls go their way before...oh wait!
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27/02/2021 18:55:18 1 1
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Stop moaning about the ref. Its not rugby
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27/02/2021 19:48:26 4 2
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Well the england players would know all about cheating....
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27/02/2021 17:40:54 21 18
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Well played Ireland, good to see them finally start clicking. At least this game is legitimate. England Wales is a ridiculous with this ref. Wales have not only been given 14 points, but it is tantamount to cheating??
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27/02/2021 17:43:15 14 15
bbc
Yep disgraceful decision. Adams try farcical, ref told Farrell speak to players then blew for time on! And how did Zammit not knock on. Ridiculous.
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27/02/2021 18:05:10 7 7
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If you bothered to listen, the ref explained carefully to Farrell that he had given time for him to speak and let him know when he restarted. If Farrell concentrated on playing and not also try to practice his refereeing, he and England would benefit.
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27/02/2021 19:18:10 0 2
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Guscott saying that according to letter of law not a knock on. That he played the ball with his hand, in direction of opponent’s posts, is not in doubt. If it’s play on, because it accidentally hit part of him, before hitting the turf, a whole can of worms is opened. EXAMPLE: player jumps to catch, hits hands going forwards & bounces off chest to turf. Knock on every time...but now apparently not.
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27/02/2021 17:43:59 1 3
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I'm not sure what is going on in Wales but no one is. Anything could happen and will.

I have never seen a game like it at that level.

Attack and you score.
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27/02/2021 17:46:56 5 3
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Wales clearly have pics of the refs in compromising situations. Every game so far ...
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27/02/2021 17:44:28 0 6
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Time to say arrivederci Roma. We're leaving on that midnight train to Georgia.
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27/02/2021 17:44:31 36 8
bbc
The refs in both games should never be allowed another six nations game imo.
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27/02/2021 17:45:33 8 9
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Yep, dreadful. Farcical.
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27/02/2021 18:11:30 1 1
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It's been awful refereeing!
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27/02/2021 19:08:30 0 2
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You’re right. Refs don’t cheat, but once in a generation you see a performance of startling ineptitude.
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27/02/2021 21:53:42 2 1
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England and Ireland both have a lot of bad luck with French referrees. Reminds me of Steve Walsh "alledgedly" working for Rugby Australia back in the 90s.
Mind you, does help the French union disrupt their Northern Hemisphere opponents.
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27/02/2021 22:14:52 2 0
bbc
I would add the TMOs
Absolutely farcical... brown envelopes pay off like Ferrari... Removed
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28/02/2021 13:13:25 6 3
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First Wales try:
I just checked. Ref gave OF 20 seconds to have a word. Enough time to run the length of the pitch and back again. He correctly stopped the clock so that the 20 seconds did not take from the game.

England incorrectly took this as a refreshment break when the penalty was still live.

Ref was right.
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28/02/2021 18:09:17 0 0
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Brace especially...3 matches he's been the official of and got them all wrong...
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28/02/2021 22:07:08 0 0
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Ref incorrectly disallowed a try for Henderson which is a big mistake but other than that, he was excellent. He actually applied a strict application of the offside law. I am delighted that he will referee the England/Ireland game because I believe that Ireland has a very good chance to win with a referee who strictly applies the rules, particularly offside.
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27/02/2021 17:24:48 0 6
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Farrell out
RO'G in
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27/02/2021 17:45:22 0 2
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Rog is nowhere near ready. Cullen would be a stronger shout, and I wouldn’t put him into that role
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27/02/2021 17:44:31 36 8
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The refs in both games should never be allowed another six nations game imo.
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27/02/2021 17:45:33 8 9
bbc
Yep, dreadful. Farcical.
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27/02/2021 18:53:45 8 1
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Not only that but the video referee the inscrutable Mons Poite did it again. When are they going to pay him off. I think he gets a game before the end of the tournament e shouldn't be allowed near a pitch. He's terrible. As for Gauzere as an ex referee I've found him reasonable, but in the first half today he had a total mare
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27/02/2021 17:34:25 8 2
bbc
What on earth are you talking about? ??
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27/02/2021 17:45:40 0 3
bbc
It's not the six countries or the six states.
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Someone has been bouncing you on your head Muppet Removed
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gg
27/02/2021 16:44:01 5 7
bbc
A predictable win for Ireland but so boring to watch and still making school boy errrors, that wee scrumhalf who came on needs to quicken up his passing.
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27/02/2021 17:46:11 4 1
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Boring? Better than Englands match. Wee scrumhalf? Do you mean the one who moves twice as fast as Youngs, or are you trying to be ironic?
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27/02/2021 18:26:41 0 3
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You got to see the bigger picture, Ireland need pace and smartness to expand their game.
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27/02/2021 17:46:38 4 3
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Meanwhile - only one try in the first half of England Wales
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27/02/2021 17:51:50 3 1
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There were 9 in the earlier game!
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27/02/2021 17:43:59 1 3
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I'm not sure what is going on in Wales but no one is. Anything could happen and will.

I have never seen a game like it at that level.

Attack and you score.
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27/02/2021 17:46:56 5 3
bbc
Wales clearly have pics of the refs in compromising situations. Every game so far ...
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27/02/2021 17:47:15 1 4
bbc
If Italy finish bottom of combined 2 season six nations after everybody has played each other home and away they should have to enter a 2 legged playoffs with top tier 2 European nation (probably Georgia) winners goes into six nations for next two seasons loser into tier 2 six nations ……we lost a tier 1 nation in Romania during the 80’s partly because they weren’t “promoted 2more regular games!
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27/02/2021 17:40:54 21 18
bbc
Well played Ireland, good to see them finally start clicking. At least this game is legitimate. England Wales is a ridiculous with this ref. Wales have not only been given 14 points, but it is tantamount to cheating??
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27/02/2021 17:47:28 3 4
bbc
It amazes me how many people post with knowing so little. I'm sure England have never had bad calls go their way before...oh wait!
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27/02/2021 16:46:09 15 8
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That was pitiful. It was like watching a middleweight boxer beat up a flyweight.
How long can these unedifying non contests be allowed to continue?

Running up a score against Italy is one thing, but Ireland will struggle to score tries against good defences.
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27/02/2021 17:47:40 5 3
bbc
Remind me - what was the England-Italy score?
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27/02/2021 18:28:19 2 1
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England beat Italy 41-18
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27/02/2021 17:33:03 5 2
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Italy is world-renowned for many things. Fine wine, great food, fantastic sports cars, fashion, beautiful women. Unfortunately, playing rugby isn't one of them ??
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27/02/2021 17:47:41 4 1
bbc
They always give it a go.
They've been improving in recent years.
Bikes, yes, but i wouldn't have one of their cars near me.
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27/02/2021 17:52:53 2 1
bbc
I wouldn't say no to a Ferrari or Lamborghini though
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27/02/2021 17:34:25 8 2
bbc
What on earth are you talking about? ??
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27/02/2021 17:48:16 4 1
bbc
He's a troll, he's got form for this.
There is no such country. This team comes from Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. No 32 country exists. Sorted ?? Removed
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27/02/2021 17:48:39 3 1
bbc
So, basically, the IRFU predates the split of the Republic and the North, and was created when Ireland was a single country. ... Instead of dissolving the IRFU and creating two new rugby unions, they just kept it the way it was. Sorted ??
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27/02/2021 17:24:48 0 6
bbc
Farrell out
RO'G in
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27/02/2021 17:49:43 3 1
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Give Farrell a chance. The games we lost we could have won. Had Burns last minute penalty against Wales landed 5m in front of the corner flag, we would likely have scored and won. We played more than an hour with 14. Had Lowe not brushed the touchline and scored against France, we could won that game. And remember how many players we were missing.
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27/02/2021 17:55:27 2 2
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You’re right: just some Munster eejit wanting rog on the hot seat
There is no such country. This team comes from Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. No 32 country exists. Sorted ?? Removed
The EU aren't checking goods crossing the Irish 'border' ?? Removed
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27/02/2021 16:37:55 2 2
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Agreed. The clubs had a flash of promise around the same time, too, but the numbers probably just aren't providing the depth to compete with ever-improving nations. It wasn't that long ago that they notched the wins against Ireland & France, however. So it can be done. But the trajectory is clear. They are not good enough.
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27/02/2021 17:50:01 1 1
bbc
The wins against Ireland and France were in 2013.

9 seasons ago.
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27/02/2021 16:46:57 0 12
bbc
At least this result will keep Andy O'Farrell in his job for another week. The Irish want to get rid of him. Veiled racism from an Irish ex-player saying he showed no direction. As you'd expect.
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27/02/2021 17:51:18 3 2
bbc
How could it be racism against somebody of Irish origin?!
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27/02/2021 17:46:38 4 3
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Meanwhile - only one try in the first half of England Wales
96
27/02/2021 17:51:50 3 1
bbc
There were 9 in the earlier game!
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27/02/2021 17:52:24 1 3
bbc
....Or why not have the Yanks in place of the Italians?

That'll show em where to stick their superb owl.
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27/02/2021 17:58:46 1 2
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Would that be an eagle, barn or tawney owl? ??
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27/02/2021 17:47:41 4 1
bbc
They always give it a go.
They've been improving in recent years.
Bikes, yes, but i wouldn't have one of their cars near me.
98
27/02/2021 17:52:53 2 1
bbc
I wouldn't say no to a Ferrari or Lamborghini though
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27/02/2021 17:56:29 2 3
bbc
Nor would i but i wouldn't keep it??
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27/02/2021 17:49:43 3 1
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Give Farrell a chance. The games we lost we could have won. Had Burns last minute penalty against Wales landed 5m in front of the corner flag, we would likely have scored and won. We played more than an hour with 14. Had Lowe not brushed the touchline and scored against France, we could won that game. And remember how many players we were missing.
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27/02/2021 17:55:27 2 2
bbc
You’re right: just some Munster eejit wanting rog on the hot seat
98
27/02/2021 17:52:53 2 1
bbc
I wouldn't say no to a Ferrari or Lamborghini though
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27/02/2021 17:56:29 2 3
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Nor would i but i wouldn't keep it??