Letter demands action over 'UK nature in freefall'
01/03/2021 | news | science | 476
Wildlife experts urge the prime minister to step up action on the loss of species in the UK.
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01/03/2021 10:51:53 7 5
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Another lobbying letter that will end up in the shredder. Lets hope it is recycled.
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01/03/2021 10:54:41 70 12
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First thing is to review HS2 then how housing need is calculated, to0 much green belt being built on in the name of building affordable homes which are only a very small percentage of the overall homes being built. Developers are making a fortune out of destroying the environment #neednotgreed
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01/03/2021 11:31:05 17 14
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Perhaps we should reduce house prices, they are far too high, too much invested in houses not factories. Put a cap on house prices and mortgage mulitples. 2x salary for mortgage and 20quid a sq yd for house prices. Dont update, dont upgrade, dont inflation lock it.
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01/03/2021 12:56:15 14 7
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Correct. England; the planet(!); has an overpopulation problem - & has since the 60's when there were 'only' 3(+) billion of that parasitic verminous species H.Sapiens.Sapiens infecting it!
Strange how 'we' eradicate any other species 'we' don't want; & specifically when it reaches 'plague' proportions; but not ourselves!
Death, & not birth, management has been the major problem for 100 years.
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01/03/2021 13:51:23 8 9
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Review HS2.......again? Is this the same as holding referenda until you get the result you want? Plain silly.
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01/03/2021 15:21:08 6 2
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Unfortunately the greed of Councils and property developers overrides everything. Councils are selling off land to developers who then change the specification that they originally submitted. We have to start at the very top before anything will be done. I live in a borough where the Council gives retrospective planning permission in more cases than legal permission. We have to act now.
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01/03/2021 22:55:23 2 1
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It is not about green belt. Those in power of all parties are in it for planning permission, on green fields. They make millions overnight for nothing. If you thing buy to let is a scam, development is riddled with ‘corruption' top to bottom. Hence the constant easing of getting permission. Green issues are of zero interest to the core point of political parties. Mates and planning gain rule.
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02/03/2021 08:36:01 2 1
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"in the name of building affordable homes"... What is an affordable home? It's just words builders say while still asking for top end prices for their flat pack houses.
Affordable homes should be priced at the lower end of the pay grade for the local area but since these "affordable homes" are built on the green belt they just add another £200k-£300k on top. If "Executive" in the name add £500k
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02/03/2021 18:46:06 0 0
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You reckon a six lane motorway laden with cars is better than a railway then? Cos that's what you'll get. Go to Europe and try some high speed trains - you'll be impressed. In the UK, cars do the journey more quickly.
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 10:57:34 40 30
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Very well said. Cats aren't meant to be here so anything they kill is a complete waste!
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01/03/2021 10:58:47 23 22
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The ancient Egyptians had exactly the right idea what to do with people who thought ill of cats.
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01/03/2021 11:16:31 21 4
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Quite right. But historical persecution and more critically destruction of UK natural forest cover over thousands of years by man, has restricted wild cats to the remotest highland regions.
Forests must be restored, then we can reintroduce their larger cousins, lynx.
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01/03/2021 11:51:30 20 16
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Lets ask the experts, eh? The RSPB state:
"There is NO clear scientific evidence that (cats are) causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds."
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01/03/2021 11:53:03 11 8
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Nearly 365,000,000 small mammals and birds killed in the UK by cats annually? Come off it! There is nowhere near that number in the first place!
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01/03/2021 12:38:52 7 7
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The biggest threat to the native wildcat is interbreeding with feral and domestic cats. However wildcats live in the highlands of Scotland so no point writing to Boris as it is a devolved responsibility so one for Nicola - but no doubt when it becomes extinct it will be down to Westminster just like everything else bad that happens north of the border.
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01/03/2021 12:44:11 8 4
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Absolutely. The harm cats do is huge. A bell on the collar would at least give birds & small mammals a chance, & should be a legal requirement
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01/03/2021 12:45:04 0 1
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Unfortunately I suspect that figure is just 'my' Tom on his own. :-/
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01/03/2021 12:50:18 2 5
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Wildcats not native then ?
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01/03/2021 13:01:13 6 12
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I understood exactly what you meant, but for some reason there are loads who are too stupid to read and digest words and sentences.

You've upset a bunch of sociopathic cat owners, who are inflamed by your disrespect it seems. These people have cats as pets because they are their kindred spirits, psychopaths basically.

Yes I said it, if you're a cat owner, chances are you're also a sociopath
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01/03/2021 13:09:45 4 1
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theres more cats than foxes
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01/03/2021 13:59:02 1 1
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And as for the deer population explosion....
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01/03/2021 14:15:35 7 6
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They kill mice. And the birds they catch are almost aways the commonest species, and the old, injured, or sick ones. Cats DO belong here, it's just that we've destroyed all the habitat belonging to the wild cats. And the martens, stoats, weasels and snakes which would otherwise be pedating on small birds and mammals. You also need to bear in mind that other birds kill birds and mice etc.
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Eva
01/03/2021 15:43:04 7 1
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The biggest threat to wildlife is us.
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01/03/2021 20:06:29 4 3
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However many animals cats are estimated to kill still does not come any where near how many humans have wiped out.
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BD
01/03/2021 21:19:06 3 2
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Perhaps add humans and their trendy, sanitised gardens to your list (so far just domestic cats) of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country.
But hey, blame it all on the cats - nothing to do with so many gardens being sterilised for human habitation. Chop natural plants, add pesticides/herbicides, decking, artificial lawn, night lights/heaters, sterile focal plants, outdoor speakers ...
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02/03/2021 12:00:29 0 1
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The worst animal on this planet is the Human that assumes the planet was created especially for them. Surprising how everything else can continue to exist without humans, yet humans cannot without them!
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01/03/2021 10:56:19 12 12
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The wildcat might be close to extinction but perhaps this might have something to do with the domestic cat population explosion and domestic cats do love to kill wild animals for fun.
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01/03/2021 11:00:55 10 10
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Domestic cats should be kept inside, like hamsters.
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01/03/2021 11:11:24 4 1
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Domestic cats are a serious threat re hybridisation, but not physically. Wild cats are bigger, would see off most domestic moggies.
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01/03/2021 11:55:24 7 3
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The EXPERTS at the RSPB state: "Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds"
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 10:57:34 40 30
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Very well said. Cats aren't meant to be here so anything they kill is a complete waste!
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01/03/2021 11:03:37 20 20
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'Cats aren't meant to be here...'

Wow - God seems to be commenting on HYS now!
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01/03/2021 12:06:50 6 8
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please explain why 'cats aren't meant to be here' - they weren't dreamed up in some Chinese genetics lab you know
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01/03/2021 10:52:44 50 6
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I recommend that people join any local wildlife organisation, and perhaps some national ones too, such as RSPB (essential that one, the only wildlife charity in the UK with the clout to take on government departments and big developers), Butterfly Conservation and Plantlife. We have all benefited from nature during the lock downs, time to put something back.
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01/03/2021 11:54:00 39 2
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And another top tip. Plant native hedges if you can. Avoid laurel, it is so bad for nature!
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01/03/2021 12:10:32 4 19
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But NOT RSPCA, they are now primarily a left-wing political pressure group who just happen to deal with the odd animal or 2 along the way
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01/03/2021 13:29:15 5 4
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But the RSPB won't speak out against the domestic cat, supposed to be a bird protection organisation.
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Atm
02/03/2021 08:32:34 0 3
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The RSPB recieve millions of pounds each year from the government and other public bodies yet it many cases it is then spent by them without any increase in the numbers of the species it was meant to help. There should be targets set before the money is given to them and if they are not met the money should be returned and given to an organisation that will achieve the targets
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01/03/2021 10:54:33 7 6
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Another step on the path to humanity destroying the ecosystem on which it depends, it is particularly sad that the UK seems to be leading the way!
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01/03/2021 11:08:28 6 4
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UK actually does very well on conservation. We are doing very well on the emissions front, we have a wonderful network of nature reserves. We are out of the awful CAP so can tailor farm payments towards biodiversity. We have the wonderful RSPB and other organisations.
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01/03/2021 11:12:35 3 4
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Actually we are one of the leaders in fashioning a greener planet for all.
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01/03/2021 10:56:08 28 9
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The Conservative need to learn how to CONSERVE, it would seem.
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01/03/2021 11:10:08 32 6
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Conservation is not a left right issue.
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01/03/2021 13:06:51 6 5
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I think you misunderstand the phonetics of this

It is not conserv-ative
It is con-serv-ative

The Con part of this needs to be more emphasised, so you say it like CON-serv-ative

Basically, stuff that has the letters CON in the word, is a clue
like eCONomy, CONditioned, CONservative
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 10:58:47 23 22
bbc
The ancient Egyptians had exactly the right idea what to do with people who thought ill of cats.
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01/03/2021 10:56:19 12 12
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The wildcat might be close to extinction but perhaps this might have something to do with the domestic cat population explosion and domestic cats do love to kill wild animals for fun.
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01/03/2021 11:00:55 10 10
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Domestic cats should be kept inside, like hamsters.
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01/03/2021 11:14:38 7 9
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One of the reasons some people prefer cats is that they are not kept in a cage or indoors like a prisoner.

Some of us prefer our animals to be free like we are.

I could never keep a locked up animal.

Each to their own.
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OwO
01/03/2021 11:16:59 5 8
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Why would you abuse an animal like that? Disgusting.
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01/03/2021 10:57:34 40 30
bbc
Very well said. Cats aren't meant to be here so anything they kill is a complete waste!
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01/03/2021 11:03:37 20 20
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'Cats aren't meant to be here...'

Wow - God seems to be commenting on HYS now!
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01/03/2021 11:12:30 25 16
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They aren't an indigenous species so they upset the balance of the UK eco system. Your sarcastic reply shows a lack of understanding of nature!
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01/03/2021 11:09:53 4 6
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I see Countryfile used the phrase naturalisation, couple weeks back. Are the afraid to use “rewilding”, which is the same thing?
Because that’s whats required for all National Parks, all of upland UK.

UK livestock farming must be reduced, releasing more land for “naturalisation” ( rewilding), restoring UK forest cover and natural ecosystems. LAND AND SEA.

DRACONIAN MEASURES REQUIRED
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01/03/2021 11:22:53 9 1
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At one point complaining we cant feed ourselves and then complaining we should do away with farms and livestock, make up your minds! We can have livestock with forests and hedges - pigs for example are happy in a forest as are deer, both are edible. We see reports today of people throwing milk away, but then we import second rate foreign cheese? Madness, total madness.
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01/03/2021 11:24:05 2 1
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And if you stop farmers from producing food, do you think people will eat the wildlife instead.
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01/03/2021 11:10:35 94 2
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The amount of litter accumulated in my local park since last March is disgusting. Just take your rubbish home
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01/03/2021 11:27:57 86 2
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Agreed. But that isn't a biodiversity issue. It is a pig ignorant issue! With apologies to pigs for the terminology.
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01/03/2021 12:35:43 15 1
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Agreed. Also in the hedgerows and on the verges in the country side. It breaks my heart to see so many recyclable items discarded, such a waste of precious resources.
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01/03/2021 12:56:06 4 3
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Yes take it home, put it in the recycling, only for the dumb council to outsource to some muppet show for them to then export it to another country. Obviously that brainfart is coming to an end, as countries are banning imports of other countries waste.

I suggest all these morons we have in gov, play a game of Sim City.
They'd learn more useful stuff than from their political "science" degree
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01/03/2021 13:09:07 10 2
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they should tax food business for litter
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01/03/2021 10:56:19 12 12
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The wildcat might be close to extinction but perhaps this might have something to do with the domestic cat population explosion and domestic cats do love to kill wild animals for fun.
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01/03/2021 11:11:24 4 1
bbc
Domestic cats are a serious threat re hybridisation, but not physically. Wild cats are bigger, would see off most domestic moggies.
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01/03/2021 10:54:33 7 6
bbc
Another step on the path to humanity destroying the ecosystem on which it depends, it is particularly sad that the UK seems to be leading the way!
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01/03/2021 11:08:28 6 4
bbc
UK actually does very well on conservation. We are doing very well on the emissions front, we have a wonderful network of nature reserves. We are out of the awful CAP so can tailor farm payments towards biodiversity. We have the wonderful RSPB and other organisations.
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MX
01/03/2021 11:20:52 4 3
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The UK is all about "Talk" the talk alot about protections and do very little. Its always words like 'Worlds best', 'World leader' and really its just buzz words to throw off the dumb.
Example. Bottom trawling in a "protected marine" enviromnent. Have you ever heard the like.
Target furture emissions. Lets open a coal mine...
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Em
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Domestic cats are a big problem in the UK. I came here from Australia where all cats have to be neutered, microchipped and kept on the owner’s property. Councils will set traps and destroy stray cats. It`s also OK to poison the vermin. I asked for cat poison in a local hardware shop, I`ll never forget the look I got! Removed
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01/03/2021 11:16:55 0 2
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Disgusting.
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01/03/2021 11:03:37 20 20
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'Cats aren't meant to be here...'

Wow - God seems to be commenting on HYS now!
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01/03/2021 11:12:30 25 16
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They aren't an indigenous species so they upset the balance of the UK eco system. Your sarcastic reply shows a lack of understanding of nature!
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01/03/2021 11:16:03 12 17
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So we can get rid of all creatures in the UK that are not indigenous? Racist/species-ist!
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01/03/2021 12:59:01 13 2
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What are you talking about? Wildcats have been in the UK since the ice age, probably before humans. We are the non-indigenous species.... perhaps we should all move to Africa?
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BD
01/03/2021 21:21:45 1 2
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I suspect a very large majority of current, 'trendy' human gardens and gardening practices upset the balance of the UK ecosystem far, far more.
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01/03/2021 10:54:33 7 6
bbc
Another step on the path to humanity destroying the ecosystem on which it depends, it is particularly sad that the UK seems to be leading the way!
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01/03/2021 11:12:35 3 4
bbc
Actually we are one of the leaders in fashioning a greener planet for all.
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01/03/2021 10:56:08 28 9
bbc
The Conservative need to learn how to CONSERVE, it would seem.
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01/03/2021 11:10:08 32 6
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Conservation is not a left right issue.
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01/03/2021 11:46:31 6 7
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Everything's a political issue for the left...
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01/03/2021 11:13:56 39 4
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For me our polluted rivers is a priority. An example, a study by the University of Sussex found that 98% of freshwater samples contained fipronil and 66% contained Imidacloprid (a neonicotinoid) they concluded these came from flea treatments from our pets, imagine the fuss if it was a farmer responsible, wildlife charities would be all over it. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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01/03/2021 11:19:24 18 11
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Rewilding must be prioritised fo all major river catchments, particularly in the west and north, livestock and poultry farming severely restricted.

Pay farmers to reduce or remove livestock to restore natural ecosystems.
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Rob
01/03/2021 12:39:46 8 1
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Don’t forget all the dog mess in plastic bags hung on the trees
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01/03/2021 14:33:16 1 3
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The Water companies providing waste water treatment have a hard job to do.

They have to treat everything that goes down the sewers and that includes the washings from pet baths.

If pesticides end up in the rivers, pet owners should be more responsible in disposing of waste.

That's on top of a waste water infrastructure largely designed over a century ago.
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01/03/2021 16:31:32 4 1
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True but the bulk of River pollution is due to farmland runoff causing eutrophication (as does sewage overflow) so farmers are still very guilty and rarely prosecuted.
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01/03/2021 11:00:55 10 10
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Domestic cats should be kept inside, like hamsters.
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01/03/2021 11:14:38 7 9
bbc
One of the reasons some people prefer cats is that they are not kept in a cage or indoors like a prisoner.

Some of us prefer our animals to be free like we are.

I could never keep a locked up animal.

Each to their own.
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01/03/2021 11:31:28 5 5
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Domestic cats are introduced carnivorous predators. If you want one it should be controlled. Better yet, use your money to support WILDLIFE both here and abroad. Then you won't need to lock up any animals. We should actually not have any exotic animals as pets.
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01/03/2021 11:12:30 25 16
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They aren't an indigenous species so they upset the balance of the UK eco system. Your sarcastic reply shows a lack of understanding of nature!
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01/03/2021 11:16:03 12 17
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So we can get rid of all creatures in the UK that are not indigenous? Racist/species-ist!
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01/03/2021 11:24:00 22 2
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Ones that cause an environmental issue we should. Are you a big fan of Colorado beetle, grey squirrels, Japanese Knotweed etc? The list is endless to be honest. NZ has the same issue with possums killing their national emblem so theirs a bounty paid for killing them. Australia has cane toads. Need I go on?
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01/03/2021 14:53:58 0 2
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I would.not mourn the loss of grey squirrels, or mink; squirrels, btw, are quite tasty.
We have already gotten rid of coypu, but they were fairly low-hanging fruit.
Doubt if we would get rid if cats, hhough, and keeping a cat in all the timeSooner you than me.
But would you also get rid of predatory
birds, stoats, weasels?
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 11:16:31 21 4
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Quite right. But historical persecution and more critically destruction of UK natural forest cover over thousands of years by man, has restricted wild cats to the remotest highland regions.
Forests must be restored, then we can reintroduce their larger cousins, lynx.
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01/03/2021 13:47:07 2 3
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Hopefully one of your precious large cats will attack you! Guess why they've died out!
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01/03/2021 14:55:11 3 1
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Also a few wolves, bears, etc.
Farmers may have a few words to say on that.
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01/03/2021 16:21:57 3 3
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Historical persecution of cats -> profusion of rats -> Black Death.

p.s. anybody even thinks of hurting my cats....
Domestic cats are a big problem in the UK. I came here from Australia where all cats have to be neutered, microchipped and kept on the owner’s property. Councils will set traps and destroy stray cats. It`s also OK to poison the vermin. I asked for cat poison in a local hardware shop, I`ll never forget the look I got! Removed
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01/03/2021 11:16:55 0 2
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Disgusting.
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01/03/2021 11:00:55 10 10
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Domestic cats should be kept inside, like hamsters.
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OwO
01/03/2021 11:16:59 5 8
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Why would you abuse an animal like that? Disgusting.
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01/03/2021 11:52:38 2 5
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How is keeping an animal under proper control abuse? Allowing it to wander the streets and risk being attacked or run over is far worse don't you think? Oh wait, cars are the pet for lazy people who can't be bothered with the work of pet ownership.
I have no doubt you would cry abuse if you saw a dog or rabbit turfed out the door every day, but it's fine for your cat? Go think about that.
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01/03/2021 11:18:18 30 14
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If Tory donors can't make any money out of it then the Tories aren't bothered. They can and do make lots of money out of tearing it all up though, see HS2.
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02/03/2021 14:26:55 0 2
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A ridiculous comment!
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01/03/2021 11:13:56 39 4
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For me our polluted rivers is a priority. An example, a study by the University of Sussex found that 98% of freshwater samples contained fipronil and 66% contained Imidacloprid (a neonicotinoid) they concluded these came from flea treatments from our pets, imagine the fuss if it was a farmer responsible, wildlife charities would be all over it. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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01/03/2021 11:19:24 18 11
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Rewilding must be prioritised fo all major river catchments, particularly in the west and north, livestock and poultry farming severely restricted.

Pay farmers to reduce or remove livestock to restore natural ecosystems.
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01/03/2021 11:21:13 4 4
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Now we have escaped from the dreadful CAP system this can be realised.
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01/03/2021 11:30:59 6 1
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I'd partially agree with you, unfortunately the true sense of rewilding will not work in the UK as there is not enough space and fencing would have to be part of the solution to keep out large herbivores, look at the mess Oostvaardersplassen got themselves in. "Light" intervention will always be needed unfortunately, look at Knepp. Reduced grazing pressure would be a good start though.
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01/03/2021 13:16:39 4 3
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Agree, our uplands have been overgrazed for far too long, harming not just biodiversity but everyone who lives downstream.
But I don't think government will continue paying farmers to remove livestock for long, when simply stopping paying them would achieve the same result in most cases. After all, we don't pay miners not to mine coal.
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01/03/2021 13:49:48 7 2
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How about rewilding London and the south east? Might get rid of a lot of idiots (providing the wild animals eat them)
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01/03/2021 14:03:33 4 3
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Natural ecosystem? Love to see you explain to a lion the need for vegetarianism. Last time I looked i had both molars and incisors and.......I like meat. So there.
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Em
01/03/2021 11:19:27 22 13
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Domestic cats are a big problem in the UK. I came here from Australia where all cats have to be neutered, microchipped and kept on the owner’s property. Councils will set traps and destroy stray cats.
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01/03/2021 11:22:22 15 10
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Quite right too. Trouble is cats kill birds and mammals in their own gardens. Make sure bird feeders etc. are wisely placed
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01/03/2021 11:53:46 9 7
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Who says they are a big problem? You? Your qualifications, please? The experts at the RSPB state:
"There is no clear scientific evidence that (cats are) causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds"
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01/03/2021 12:39:00 2 7
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i love kitties
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01/03/2021 13:14:44 6 5
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Careful Em, you're gonna upset all of the sociopathic cat owners lol
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02/03/2021 12:28:14 0 1
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Your comments are a contradiction in terms...
How can all cats be neutered, as that would ended the cat population?
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01/03/2021 11:08:28 6 4
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UK actually does very well on conservation. We are doing very well on the emissions front, we have a wonderful network of nature reserves. We are out of the awful CAP so can tailor farm payments towards biodiversity. We have the wonderful RSPB and other organisations.
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MX
01/03/2021 11:20:52 4 3
bbc
The UK is all about "Talk" the talk alot about protections and do very little. Its always words like 'Worlds best', 'World leader' and really its just buzz words to throw off the dumb.
Example. Bottom trawling in a "protected marine" enviromnent. Have you ever heard the like.
Target furture emissions. Lets open a coal mine...
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01/03/2021 12:50:16 2 1
bbc
Tell us what you do to help nature and reduce your environmental footprint.

Bet you don't do anything at all!

It is all of our problem, don;t wait for others to lead.
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Em
01/03/2021 11:19:27 22 13
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Domestic cats are a big problem in the UK. I came here from Australia where all cats have to be neutered, microchipped and kept on the owner’s property. Councils will set traps and destroy stray cats.
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01/03/2021 11:22:22 15 10
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Quite right too. Trouble is cats kill birds and mammals in their own gardens. Make sure bird feeders etc. are wisely placed
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01/03/2021 11:09:53 4 6
bbc
I see Countryfile used the phrase naturalisation, couple weeks back. Are the afraid to use “rewilding”, which is the same thing?
Because that’s whats required for all National Parks, all of upland UK.

UK livestock farming must be reduced, releasing more land for “naturalisation” ( rewilding), restoring UK forest cover and natural ecosystems. LAND AND SEA.

DRACONIAN MEASURES REQUIRED
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01/03/2021 11:22:53 9 1
bbc
At one point complaining we cant feed ourselves and then complaining we should do away with farms and livestock, make up your minds! We can have livestock with forests and hedges - pigs for example are happy in a forest as are deer, both are edible. We see reports today of people throwing milk away, but then we import second rate foreign cheese? Madness, total madness.
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01/03/2021 11:16:03 12 17
bbc
So we can get rid of all creatures in the UK that are not indigenous? Racist/species-ist!
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01/03/2021 11:24:00 22 2
bbc
Ones that cause an environmental issue we should. Are you a big fan of Colorado beetle, grey squirrels, Japanese Knotweed etc? The list is endless to be honest. NZ has the same issue with possums killing their national emblem so theirs a bounty paid for killing them. Australia has cane toads. Need I go on?
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01/03/2021 11:09:53 4 6
bbc
I see Countryfile used the phrase naturalisation, couple weeks back. Are the afraid to use “rewilding”, which is the same thing?
Because that’s whats required for all National Parks, all of upland UK.

UK livestock farming must be reduced, releasing more land for “naturalisation” ( rewilding), restoring UK forest cover and natural ecosystems. LAND AND SEA.

DRACONIAN MEASURES REQUIRED
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01/03/2021 11:24:05 2 1
bbc
And if you stop farmers from producing food, do you think people will eat the wildlife instead.
64
01/03/2021 11:45:43 1 1
bbc
They already do: often see poachers out hunting the deer that have returned to our locality. Police too busy answering the phone & doing paperwork since the SNP did away with support staff, so no response as it's not a priority call, unlike someone doing 33 in a 30...
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01/03/2021 11:24:11 33 3
bbc
Most of the UK environmental laws are unenforceable according to police (e.g. Wildlife & Countryside Act). The laws need to be changed or the way policing works must be changed
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01/03/2021 11:40:54 20 1
bbc
The problem with that is you'd then get Mr Angry ranting about how the Police should be tackling proper criminals.
194
01/03/2021 13:38:48 3 1
bbc
Most UK laws are unenforceable! Hence why fraud is out of control and people have given up using indicators when they drive! Much as I dislike the SNP, they are starting to clamp down on grouse moors a bit. But is that just hot air as well?
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01/03/2021 14:42:07 1 1
bbc
We shouldn't need laws like this. It's unfortunate that we do and they will never be able to fully enforce it, but how is it so difficult for humanity to understand not to just leave your rubbish everywhere
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Rob
01/03/2021 16:22:09 0 1
bbc
The laws we need most urgently are ones that apply to governments and big corporations as they have the most impact, and generally do the most damage.

So as a previous post says, do join organisations, lobby politicians - but do it constructively!
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01/03/2021 11:19:24 18 11
bbc
Rewilding must be prioritised fo all major river catchments, particularly in the west and north, livestock and poultry farming severely restricted.

Pay farmers to reduce or remove livestock to restore natural ecosystems.
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01/03/2021 11:21:13 4 4
bbc
Now we have escaped from the dreadful CAP system this can be realised.
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01/03/2021 11:29:28 10 1
bbc
I recommend the book 'Wilding' by Isabella Tree for anyone interested. Gives a more rounded view and an example of how they have done things at the Knepp Estate.
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01/03/2021 11:29:53 4 2
bbc
Retrieve the plastic crap from the canal. Change the law on fly-tipping to target the drinks company. Return the bottles to drinks company and charge them the full costs of retrieval/storage/return plus a fine. QED
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01/03/2021 11:30:03 30 4
bbc
I can only speak of the area where I live, but the rivers are much less polluted than in my youth
Otters and fish have returned to the local streams.
Air is much cleaner, more variety in birdlife. Red kites and Buzzards are re-establishing themselves.
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01/03/2021 11:32:53 18 3
bbc
Yes, the UK is doing relatively well when it comes to conservation. But we must not rest on our laurels (don't plant laurel by the way, it is a nasty, non native, poisonous to all wildlife, sometimes invasive thing). there is much still to do.
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01/03/2021 11:34:09 0 10
bbc
So what you are saying is totally unrepresentative of the UK situation as determined by people who are expert in the subject.
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01/03/2021 11:35:30 3 2
bbc
It’s a start, but measures now need to be far more intensive.
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01/03/2021 12:21:44 4 3
bbc
"Red kites and Buzzards are re-establishing themselves." Until shot or poisoned by some gamekeepers
198
01/03/2021 13:48:35 6 3
bbc
My area was doing OK, until the EU demanded that the orchards be ripped up, so as not to offer competition to EU fruit farmers, and instead we ended up with miles of corn and linseed. But now those areas are diminishing to make way for high density housing. Wildlife doesn't stand a chance, our population needs to fall.
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01/03/2021 14:38:50 2 1
bbc
Pollution has shifted to the streets, highways and anywhere else people can drop their litter.

There has been an irreversible change in attitude to littering.

Tidy vehicles and tidy pockets count for more than the civic and natural environment.
275
01/03/2021 15:08:39 2 1
bbc
Agreed. In my youth, it was said you could not drown in the River Taff. you would be poisoned first.
Now salmon, eels, grayling, burbot, and many other species in the river.
340
01/03/2021 17:21:32 0 1
bbc
How much litter is there ?
27
01/03/2021 11:19:24 18 11
bbc
Rewilding must be prioritised fo all major river catchments, particularly in the west and north, livestock and poultry farming severely restricted.

Pay farmers to reduce or remove livestock to restore natural ecosystems.
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01/03/2021 11:30:59 6 1
bbc
I'd partially agree with you, unfortunately the true sense of rewilding will not work in the UK as there is not enough space and fencing would have to be part of the solution to keep out large herbivores, look at the mess Oostvaardersplassen got themselves in. "Light" intervention will always be needed unfortunately, look at Knepp. Reduced grazing pressure would be a good start though.
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01/03/2021 12:09:09 8 5
bbc
not a Vegan too are you by any chance? The 'livestock' are there for a reason, farmers don't breed them for fun
2
01/03/2021 10:54:41 70 12
bbc
First thing is to review HS2 then how housing need is calculated, to0 much green belt being built on in the name of building affordable homes which are only a very small percentage of the overall homes being built. Developers are making a fortune out of destroying the environment #neednotgreed
40
01/03/2021 11:31:05 17 14
bbc
Perhaps we should reduce house prices, they are far too high, too much invested in houses not factories. Put a cap on house prices and mortgage mulitples. 2x salary for mortgage and 20quid a sq yd for house prices. Dont update, dont upgrade, dont inflation lock it.
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01/03/2021 11:43:06 10 1
bbc
I agree we need to change things. We need a new model for housing and other building projects. Only build it if we really need it or if there's a positive environmental impact. I'm no anti capitalist but we need capitalism with a green conscience.
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01/03/2021 11:52:48 8 5
bbc
Housing prices was my first concern when I saw this too. I absolutely want wildlife to survive and thrive but we have a housing crisis that can't be ignored. I suspect most of the people beating the nature drum aren't living in HMOs or pokey studios/flats at extortionate prices

There needs to be greater control over the housing stock to ensure underutilised capacity isn't being wasted
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01/03/2021 12:07:59 15 2
bbc
I can remember when you couldn't get a mortgage for more than 3x annual salary. Makes today's market seem exactly what it is - utterly ludicrously overpriced
208
01/03/2021 13:56:51 0 1
bbc
Love the idea, just don't know who would want to build? I'm afraid H L Mencken was right.
458
02/03/2021 14:43:34 0 0
bbc
That requires a government-run economy - not too many votes in authoritarian Marxism these days
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01/03/2021 11:14:38 7 9
bbc
One of the reasons some people prefer cats is that they are not kept in a cage or indoors like a prisoner.

Some of us prefer our animals to be free like we are.

I could never keep a locked up animal.

Each to their own.
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01/03/2021 11:31:28 5 5
bbc
Domestic cats are introduced carnivorous predators. If you want one it should be controlled. Better yet, use your money to support WILDLIFE both here and abroad. Then you won't need to lock up any animals. We should actually not have any exotic animals as pets.
13
01/03/2021 11:10:35 94 2
bbc
The amount of litter accumulated in my local park since last March is disgusting. Just take your rubbish home
42
01/03/2021 11:27:57 86 2
bbc
Agreed. But that isn't a biodiversity issue. It is a pig ignorant issue! With apologies to pigs for the terminology.
43
01/03/2021 11:32:13 12 5
bbc
How about using 'prisoners' for litter picking and discarded rubbish collection..
52
01/03/2021 11:38:43 14 2
bbc
You can't say things like that: those who chose criminality have all the rights these days. Community service is meant for jobs like that but everyone's too terrified of being sued if one broke a fingernail on the job.
57
01/03/2021 11:41:40 1 3
bbc
I thought the idea was to keep dangerous criminals away from communities, not force them into them!
58
01/03/2021 11:42:10 2 1
bbc
You actually need to educate people not to drop litter in the first place and councils need to improve waste collection, so rubbish doesn't blow away. Stayed in France a few years back, their waste recyling, in the street, is stored underground until the council come to remove it, very little rubbish blown away.
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Rob
01/03/2021 12:45:22 1 2
bbc
Send them round here where I live it’s one big rubbish dump
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01/03/2021 13:17:02 0 2
bbc
cgee, if this is your solution, I got a better one

Stop having kids, please
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01/03/2021 11:32:31 6 11
bbc
From our friends at the RSPB:
Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
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01/03/2021 11:39:48 5 7
bbc
I have heard this before, ANY breeding bird killed by cats is one less to increase the population of that species, nationally maybe but locally I think there could be an impact. Lets face it the RSPB would say that as many of their supporters are cat owners, maybe cynical but if something else was killing that number of birds, I would expect a lot of more noise from them.
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01/03/2021 11:38:17 3 3
bbc
In an urban setting, that is correct. But the RSPB also point out that if you live near sensitive environments cats should not be allowed to wander. They are known to be a problem on heathland in the south. They also kill reptiles, amphibians and small mammals.
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01/03/2021 11:55:32 2 4
bbc
Of course a charity that depends on donations from a lot of cat owners won't say your failure to properly care for and control your animal is causing a problem: the money would quickly go elsewhere.
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01/03/2021 12:17:52 3 1
bbc
Sparrowhawks take more birds in my garden than the three local cats combined. I don't think its cats that at are causing massive declines in skylarks or turtle doves for example - best to concentrate on the real problems causing wildlife loss than the popularist views of those who really have no understanding of wildlife and the environment
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sw
01/03/2021 12:24:42 3 1
bbc
One very clear killer of wildlife is transport. People drive too fast, so they cannot slow down to avoid mowing creatures down in their path. Once spring has properly started there will be carnage on the roads again. Especially young animals that are not so traffic savvy.
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01/03/2021 11:30:03 30 4
bbc
I can only speak of the area where I live, but the rivers are much less polluted than in my youth
Otters and fish have returned to the local streams.
Air is much cleaner, more variety in birdlife. Red kites and Buzzards are re-establishing themselves.
45
01/03/2021 11:32:53 18 3
bbc
Yes, the UK is doing relatively well when it comes to conservation. But we must not rest on our laurels (don't plant laurel by the way, it is a nasty, non native, poisonous to all wildlife, sometimes invasive thing). there is much still to do.
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01/03/2021 15:13:50 0 2
bbc
If you are speaking of spotted laurel, aucuba japonica, or cherry laurel, prunus laurocerasus, neither of which are true laurels, yes.
Bay laurel Laurus nobilis, seeds are food and leaves are food for us.for birds, and
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01/03/2021 15:22:59 1 1
bbc
Agree its a problem plant, roots go a long way.
46
01/03/2021 11:33:42 123 7
bbc
If each of us actually cleaned up the paths and roadside verges in the area we live in, we would not only have more pride in our community, but we would also contribute something of real value. Writing endless letters to tell others they must do something, while doing nothing ourselves to assist, is so "yesterday ( Useless). Part of the solution exists right in front of everyone - our own hands
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01/03/2021 11:51:36 32 61
bbc
Something for all the jobless layabouts to do!
144
01/03/2021 12:45:56 27 2
bbc
The sad part is that for every person who wants to do this, there's another ten slack jawed phone zombies who in the parlance our times "don't give a toss".
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01/03/2021 13:14:00 11 2
bbc
Agreed.

A longer-term solution is to simplify our lifestyles so that we create less waste in the first place. This can be fulfilling and fun. There can be joy in enough:

https://joyinenough.org/
.
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01/03/2021 13:08:44 17 7
bbc
the new generation just throw takeaway packaging on the pavements
196
01/03/2021 13:44:58 9 8
bbc
Tried that for a while 15 years ago - quickly became dispirited - punish litterers with transportation to Scotland - sends a strong message - soon stop.
223
01/03/2021 14:09:07 18 4
bbc
I pick litter twice a week. On my 200m stretch of main road I will pick up 300 cigarette butts per session (here are 3 bins). Cigarette butts reduce plant mass by 40% and harmful to wildlife.

But if you mention this to a smoker tossing one they're always indignant. I once got punched in the face by a smoker after I pointed out that he flicked his cigarette butt in a bush.

Smokers are the worst
228
01/03/2021 14:20:25 5 3
bbc
I agree with you 100%. Sadly most people think it's soemeone elses problem, but are the first to complain about it. I take a sack on all my woodland walks and pick up any litter I see if it will fit in the sack... If you see it pick it up. Even if it's a short walk it's not difficult to do. It's one thing to be offended, it's another to take action.
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01/03/2021 15:04:39 2 3
bbc
In terms of litter, it’s not the 1% who drop litter you are going to change but it’s probably easier to encourage at least some of the 98% who do nothing about it to maybe get involved and pick some litter up now and then
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01/03/2021 15:38:05 1 2
bbc
There is too much mass distribution of food. It all needs plastic packaging to keep it fresh for extended periods. The mismanagement of this packaging in waste handling in the UK is terrible. The amount of polythene stuck in trees makes my heart sink. The country is a dump.
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SPM
01/03/2021 15:44:33 1 2
bbc
I completely agree. It is so frustrating constantly seeing piles of rubbish everywhere but as a family we do a regular litter pick at a community centre in our town, the children enjoy it (using the litter picker) and it really does make you feel better. Lots of people passing by comment (positively!) and I like to think that perhaps it may encourage others to do the same.
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BD
01/03/2021 20:55:55 0 1
bbc
I do agree, but ... rather than "Part of the solution exists right in front of everyone - our own hands", should we not concentrate on educating/encouraging those in the community that mess the paths and roadside verges not to do so?
428
02/03/2021 11:01:59 1 1
bbc
Picking up rubbish is worthy but completely misses the point about loss of species which is down to habitat loss, industrial agriculture and relaxed building regulations.
38
01/03/2021 11:30:03 30 4
bbc
I can only speak of the area where I live, but the rivers are much less polluted than in my youth
Otters and fish have returned to the local streams.
Air is much cleaner, more variety in birdlife. Red kites and Buzzards are re-establishing themselves.
47
01/03/2021 11:34:09 0 10
bbc
So what you are saying is totally unrepresentative of the UK situation as determined by people who are expert in the subject.
38
01/03/2021 11:30:03 30 4
bbc
I can only speak of the area where I live, but the rivers are much less polluted than in my youth
Otters and fish have returned to the local streams.
Air is much cleaner, more variety in birdlife. Red kites and Buzzards are re-establishing themselves.
48
01/03/2021 11:35:30 3 2
bbc
It’s a start, but measures now need to be far more intensive.
49
01/03/2021 11:35:55 2 4
bbc
can you imagine a day in the future where bottled water is actually better for you than tap water. this could happen in 25 years time if we do not get a grip
54
01/03/2021 11:40:15 2 4
bbc
My tap water is already undrinkable until filtered. The Powers That Be don't seem to care.
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MVP
01/03/2021 11:37:02 10 12
bbc
Our prime minister has recently approved a coal fired power station against the will of most environmentalists.

He does not seem to consider that the environment is of any importance.
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01/03/2021 11:42:59 11 2
bbc
I haven't seen a coal fired power station approved. Government still looking to phase out by 2025...are you on about the steel coking mine?
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01/03/2021 11:39:58 5 2
bbc
That coal mine is for specialist steel production. We would import coal for it from somewhere else. The UK has strict environmental rules, so it is better that we produce the coal here. Also reduces its transport footprint.
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01/03/2021 11:47:06 5 2
bbc
He didn't approve it, the local council did. Within govt policies.
While we import coal for steel making as coal free steel making is a little way off, with a greater environmental impact, sourcing it at home is in line with reducing emissions and not passing the emissions on to other countries.
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sw
01/03/2021 11:59:59 1 1
bbc
HS2, more road building, house building the PM has given the OK. Bad for the environment. The amount of empty houses is equivalent to a city the size of Oxford.
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01/03/2021 14:54:31 0 1
bbc
You do know what MVP stands for, right?

Not with that comment sir.
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01/03/2021 11:38:40 19 2
bbc
The environment has never been high up on any Governments agenda. Until it is seen as the important issue that it is then there will not be any importance placed on protecting the environment, either at the species level or that of climate change. Education is the key, the population need to realise how important the world that we live on is. Once it is gone then that's it, game over!!
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sw
01/03/2021 11:55:39 30 2
bbc
On a more local UK level, once lockdown has relaxed a bit, there will be an explosion of people visiting the countryside, who understandably want to get out from their homes. However many people will not know how to behave there in relation to dogs off leads attacking farm animals and wildlife. Littering etc. People need advice on the media to tell them what to do.
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01/03/2021 13:07:55 1 1
bbc
"I like money"
- Frito
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01/03/2021 11:32:13 12 5
bbc
How about using 'prisoners' for litter picking and discarded rubbish collection..
52
01/03/2021 11:38:43 14 2
bbc
You can't say things like that: those who chose criminality have all the rights these days. Community service is meant for jobs like that but everyone's too terrified of being sued if one broke a fingernail on the job.
44
01/03/2021 11:32:31 6 11
bbc
From our friends at the RSPB:
Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
53
01/03/2021 11:39:48 5 7
bbc
I have heard this before, ANY breeding bird killed by cats is one less to increase the population of that species, nationally maybe but locally I think there could be an impact. Lets face it the RSPB would say that as many of their supporters are cat owners, maybe cynical but if something else was killing that number of birds, I would expect a lot of more noise from them.
49
01/03/2021 11:35:55 2 4
bbc
can you imagine a day in the future where bottled water is actually better for you than tap water. this could happen in 25 years time if we do not get a grip
54
01/03/2021 11:40:15 2 4
bbc
My tap water is already undrinkable until filtered. The Powers That Be don't seem to care.
84
01/03/2021 11:58:34 3 2
bbc
Yeah, right. Mains tap water that is really unsafe wouldn't be coming to your house. Maybe it's not expensive enough and doesn't come in a trendy bottle? Try the water in a really unsafe country and see how that tastes.
455
02/03/2021 14:39:43 0 0
bbc
Why?
44
01/03/2021 11:32:31 6 11
bbc
From our friends at the RSPB:
Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
55
01/03/2021 11:38:17 3 3
bbc
In an urban setting, that is correct. But the RSPB also point out that if you live near sensitive environments cats should not be allowed to wander. They are known to be a problem on heathland in the south. They also kill reptiles, amphibians and small mammals.
34
01/03/2021 11:24:11 33 3
bbc
Most of the UK environmental laws are unenforceable according to police (e.g. Wildlife & Countryside Act). The laws need to be changed or the way policing works must be changed
56
01/03/2021 11:40:54 20 1
bbc
The problem with that is you'd then get Mr Angry ranting about how the Police should be tackling proper criminals.
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01/03/2021 12:58:31 7 1
bbc
Give greater powers, & less legal obstruction, to Environmental bodies
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02/03/2021 09:35:01 0 1
bbc
But they are proper criminals - deceit, fraud, trespass?
43
01/03/2021 11:32:13 12 5
bbc
How about using 'prisoners' for litter picking and discarded rubbish collection..
57
01/03/2021 11:41:40 1 3
bbc
I thought the idea was to keep dangerous criminals away from communities, not force them into them!
43
01/03/2021 11:32:13 12 5
bbc
How about using 'prisoners' for litter picking and discarded rubbish collection..
58
01/03/2021 11:42:10 2 1
bbc
You actually need to educate people not to drop litter in the first place and councils need to improve waste collection, so rubbish doesn't blow away. Stayed in France a few years back, their waste recyling, in the street, is stored underground until the council come to remove it, very little rubbish blown away.
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MVP
01/03/2021 11:37:02 10 12
bbc
Our prime minister has recently approved a coal fired power station against the will of most environmentalists.

He does not seem to consider that the environment is of any importance.
59
01/03/2021 11:42:59 11 2
bbc
I haven't seen a coal fired power station approved. Government still looking to phase out by 2025...are you on about the steel coking mine?
40
01/03/2021 11:31:05 17 14
bbc
Perhaps we should reduce house prices, they are far too high, too much invested in houses not factories. Put a cap on house prices and mortgage mulitples. 2x salary for mortgage and 20quid a sq yd for house prices. Dont update, dont upgrade, dont inflation lock it.
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01/03/2021 11:43:06 10 1
bbc
I agree we need to change things. We need a new model for housing and other building projects. Only build it if we really need it or if there's a positive environmental impact. I'm no anti capitalist but we need capitalism with a green conscience.
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01/03/2021 14:45:07 5 4
bbc
We don't even build enough for our needs now: what we are gertting are matchboxes built on handkerchief sized plots for £200k.
What we really need is a much greater quantity of social housing.
Most youngsters will never afford to buy a house,, bad enough paying inflated rents to private landlords.
The forced sale of council houses at ridiculously low prices, and on HA houses now, is a disaster.
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01/03/2021 18:57:14 0 3
bbc
Capitalism with a green conscience. Isn't that a oxymoron.
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01/03/2021 11:43:14 27 5
bbc
How long before we realise that the badger cull is interfering with the process of natural selection in badgers? Culling does not accurately replicate or mimic a natural apex predator. It targets those members of a clan who would otherwise perish last. It interferes with adaptations to the modern, shifting environment. It creates isolated groups and we all know where that leads. Vis dormice.
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01/03/2021 11:58:34 28 9
bbc
Badger culling and the BTB scandal is yet another disgusting byproduct a UK landscape dominated by livestock farming.
LOSS OF HABITAT DRIVEN BY FARMING DOMINATION DRIVEN BY HUMAN OVERPOPULATION.
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01/03/2021 13:12:06 5 1
bbc
Somewhat related in a way, some time back there was a push to cull the deer population under the banner of "good conservation" AND grass roots movement

Turns out it was none of these, it was the motor insurance industry lobbying for deers to be culled, only after trying and failing at sueing land owners, one of them being The National Trust.

We all love science, sure, but boy can it be subverted
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MVP
01/03/2021 11:37:02 10 12
bbc
Our prime minister has recently approved a coal fired power station against the will of most environmentalists.

He does not seem to consider that the environment is of any importance.
62
01/03/2021 11:39:58 5 2
bbc
That coal mine is for specialist steel production. We would import coal for it from somewhere else. The UK has strict environmental rules, so it is better that we produce the coal here. Also reduces its transport footprint.
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01/03/2021 11:45:34 2 3
bbc
Where are the bottle banks, the car registration on the fast food outlets. I have heard these are coming? but when
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Bob
01/03/2021 12:09:56 6 1
bbc
I'm assuming by 'car reg on fast food outlets' you mean to catch people dumping the rubbish?

I have a friend working at a McDonald's and this already happens. They can look it up from the receipt and you get a nice letter sent.
33
01/03/2021 11:24:05 2 1
bbc
And if you stop farmers from producing food, do you think people will eat the wildlife instead.
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01/03/2021 11:45:43 1 1
bbc
They already do: often see poachers out hunting the deer that have returned to our locality. Police too busy answering the phone & doing paperwork since the SNP did away with support staff, so no response as it's not a priority call, unlike someone doing 33 in a 30...
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01/03/2021 11:10:08 32 6
bbc
Conservation is not a left right issue.
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01/03/2021 11:46:31 6 7
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Everything's a political issue for the left...
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01/03/2021 13:01:44 8 5
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Said the right-winger, politicising. Not very bright, are you?
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MVP
01/03/2021 11:37:02 10 12
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Our prime minister has recently approved a coal fired power station against the will of most environmentalists.

He does not seem to consider that the environment is of any importance.
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01/03/2021 11:47:06 5 2
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He didn't approve it, the local council did. Within govt policies.
While we import coal for steel making as coal free steel making is a little way off, with a greater environmental impact, sourcing it at home is in line with reducing emissions and not passing the emissions on to other countries.
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01/03/2021 11:47:24 3 4
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More draconian measures required. All cats to be neutered and chipped. Recent study shows that wild bird hunting drops by 50% when cats are fed more nutritious cat food than the cheapo Big Brands. Make litterers eat their dropped/left litter, and/or fine them £500 per item, including non-bio plastic dog poo bags. Sea bed trawling to be banned, immediately. Ban toxic pesticides, immediately.
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01/03/2021 15:05:41 3 1
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Fully agree on the cat food. My Bengal has caught three birds in 8 years, two of which were saved:) All of these occasions were my fault for as she did not receive food at the correct time (pet owner teething issues... my bad... I do feel bad).

I always make sure her bowl has food and one meal a day is proper meat (probably sharing my dinner!) not cat food.
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01/03/2021 11:49:26 15 3
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There is one overriding element driving environmental destruction around the globe. The choking mass of the human population. Unless education and contraception puts a rapid brake on this we will very soon have consumed every resource and suffocated the life out of the planet.
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01/03/2021 15:15:48 9 1
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Support charities - like Plan International - that campaign to keep girls in school in the developing world, and ban child marriage. It is THE most cost-effective population control solution.
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 11:51:30 20 16
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Lets ask the experts, eh? The RSPB state:
"There is NO clear scientific evidence that (cats are) causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds."
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01/03/2021 11:53:02 15 3
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That quote is taken out of context, it is for urban settings. The RSPB also state that cats should not be allowed to roam outside if you live near an environmentally sensitive area.
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02/03/2021 12:02:56 0 1
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Well said!
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01/03/2021 11:33:42 123 7
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If each of us actually cleaned up the paths and roadside verges in the area we live in, we would not only have more pride in our community, but we would also contribute something of real value. Writing endless letters to tell others they must do something, while doing nothing ourselves to assist, is so "yesterday ( Useless). Part of the solution exists right in front of everyone - our own hands
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01/03/2021 11:51:36 32 61
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Something for all the jobless layabouts to do!
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01/03/2021 12:04:00 30 5
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Have you not got hands? Why always look for someone else to do what you yourself were (initially at least... :-))perfectly well equipped to do. Passing the task on, typifies the attitude that always considers the environment to be someone else's problem.
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01/03/2021 12:41:27 16 11
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I object to your offensive remark!
Long term unemployed; on health grounds due to others incompetence; I am a local 'Street Champion' clearing up the filth you, your children, & grandchildren degrade MY(!) environment with! Sir David Attenborough champions the amount of plastic in the World - it is the Boomers & their descendants that have:
are(!); putting it there. Grrr!
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01/03/2021 14:36:50 3 4
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Or those on furlough; earn the money you get.
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01/03/2021 16:21:29 4 3
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No doubt you think of dropping litter as some sort of job creation scheme. Prat.
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01/03/2021 16:26:18 1 2
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Get on with it you lazy slob.
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02/03/2021 19:44:02 0 0
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Pensioners?
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01/03/2021 11:51:49 7 3
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We really do have to let Nature balance herself but with such a large population of demanding humans what can we do? Educate about rubbish. Grow native plants if you have any space for a plant pot. Get rid of all pesticide and weedkiller as weeds are wild plants and are actually protected. Reduce vehicle usage by using trains. Quit shooting wildlife as they keep ticks/pests down.
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OwO
01/03/2021 11:16:59 5 8
bbc
Why would you abuse an animal like that? Disgusting.
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01/03/2021 11:52:38 2 5
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How is keeping an animal under proper control abuse? Allowing it to wander the streets and risk being attacked or run over is far worse don't you think? Oh wait, cars are the pet for lazy people who can't be bothered with the work of pet ownership.
I have no doubt you would cry abuse if you saw a dog or rabbit turfed out the door every day, but it's fine for your cat? Go think about that.
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01/03/2021 11:31:05 17 14
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Perhaps we should reduce house prices, they are far too high, too much invested in houses not factories. Put a cap on house prices and mortgage mulitples. 2x salary for mortgage and 20quid a sq yd for house prices. Dont update, dont upgrade, dont inflation lock it.
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01/03/2021 11:52:48 8 5
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Housing prices was my first concern when I saw this too. I absolutely want wildlife to survive and thrive but we have a housing crisis that can't be ignored. I suspect most of the people beating the nature drum aren't living in HMOs or pokey studios/flats at extortionate prices

There needs to be greater control over the housing stock to ensure underutilised capacity isn't being wasted
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01/03/2021 11:53:03 21 4
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The main cause of the decline of the natural habitat and climate change acceleration has to be largely attributed to the size of the human population. Until we mange the numbers of humans living on Earth then we are on track to loose the nautral world around us. We rely on the same natural environment for so much for our own survival that we can't afford to ignore its destruction, that's reality!
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01/03/2021 12:17:49 6 6
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It is human population but its not in the west, not the native Europeans anyway as we are in freefall. What brought about the end of civilizations was either celestial objects or volcanoes, if a big volcano goes off millions will die of starvation, 535AD 4 years without a summer that triggered the great migration period, imagine no summers for 4 years in the northern hemisphere for food production
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01/03/2021 15:26:10 2 2
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At 72, I remember when we did actually rely on the environment; my family, in the 50's, relied on rabbits. the occasional pheasant, anx a few pheasant ( a non-native species) and possibly a few trout for our sustenance.
Now a fishing licence cost hundreds of pounds a year, and you have to put the fish back, pheasants are " protected" by gamekeepers, and rabbits are " cute".
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01/03/2021 10:56:04 68 34
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I found it interesting that you have a wildcat as your picture here. Problem is that the profusion of domestic cats is one of our greatest problems for wildlife in this country. They kill nearly a million small birds and mammals EVERY DAY and yet are allowed to roam free. This doesn't take account of the invertebrates they kill. Cats need to be contained inside or at least neutered and collared.
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01/03/2021 11:53:03 11 8
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Nearly 365,000,000 small mammals and birds killed in the UK by cats annually? Come off it! There is nowhere near that number in the first place!
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01/03/2021 11:59:46 4 2
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Where did you get that figure from? The OP said "nearly a million", which is probably about right. That's nearly a million that won't breed and provide food for the natural food chain.
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01/03/2021 19:43:47 0 1
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182.5 Million. Brush up on your Math.
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Em
01/03/2021 11:19:27 22 13
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Domestic cats are a big problem in the UK. I came here from Australia where all cats have to be neutered, microchipped and kept on the owner’s property. Councils will set traps and destroy stray cats.
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01/03/2021 11:53:46 9 7
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Who says they are a big problem? You? Your qualifications, please? The experts at the RSPB state:
"There is no clear scientific evidence that (cats are) causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds"
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01/03/2021 12:38:00 6 4
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No Scientific evidence but "the most recent figures of how many creatures are killed by cats are from the Mammal Society. They estimate that cats in the UK catch up to 100 million prey items over spring and summer, of which 27 million are birds".

that has to have some impact right ?
We have to be a bit sensible and understand that our pets DO effect the ecology
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02/03/2021 12:29:13 0 1
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Their own ignorance to the facts said so...
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01/03/2021 11:55:05 0 5
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Why is it the wildlife you don't want, Seagulls, Pigeons, Grey Squirrels, Rats and Crayfish are thriving yet the wildlife we do want is in decline...Darwin and those quickest to adapt theory?
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sw
01/03/2021 12:16:07 1 2
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Most UK Gull species are on the (red) or endangered list.
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01/03/2021 10:56:19 12 12
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The wildcat might be close to extinction but perhaps this might have something to do with the domestic cat population explosion and domestic cats do love to kill wild animals for fun.
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01/03/2021 11:55:24 7 3
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The EXPERTS at the RSPB state: "Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds"
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01/03/2021 12:10:39 2 3
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01/03/2021 11:32:31 6 11
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From our friends at the RSPB:
Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
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01/03/2021 11:55:32 2 4
bbc
Of course a charity that depends on donations from a lot of cat owners won't say your failure to properly care for and control your animal is causing a problem: the money would quickly go elsewhere.
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01/03/2021 11:38:40 19 2
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The environment has never been high up on any Governments agenda. Until it is seen as the important issue that it is then there will not be any importance placed on protecting the environment, either at the species level or that of climate change. Education is the key, the population need to realise how important the world that we live on is. Once it is gone then that's it, game over!!
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sw
01/03/2021 11:55:39 30 2
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On a more local UK level, once lockdown has relaxed a bit, there will be an explosion of people visiting the countryside, who understandably want to get out from their homes. However many people will not know how to behave there in relation to dogs off leads attacking farm animals and wildlife. Littering etc. People need advice on the media to tell them what to do.
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Rob
01/03/2021 12:42:41 4 1
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You can give lots of advice to people but they just don’t care
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01/03/2021 12:50:39 7 1
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Unfortunately the mess left behind on Dorset beaches last year is the biggest clue yet that huge numbers of people do not care about the environment one slightest bit. Education and better parenting would help. Every can or other recyclable item discarded in the environment is a waste of a precious resource.
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01/03/2021 13:40:27 4 1
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In the old days we used to get 'public information films' including things like the countryside code. OK maybe people took notice, maybe they didn't but the effort was there to get the message across.
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01/03/2021 15:05:59 2 1
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Not much cahenge
I work in a few nature reserves; we have signs instructing dog walkers to keep gheir dogs on leads. particularly in the bird breeding season.
Most do not comply; many of the staff are reluctant to intervene in fear of bad publitity or abuse.
As a volunteer, I am not bothered, I will ask people to obey the rules. In response, so.d have lulled down or defaced signs.
No hope.
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01/03/2021 11:51:30 20 16
bbc
Lets ask the experts, eh? The RSPB state:
"There is NO clear scientific evidence that (cats are) causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds."
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01/03/2021 11:53:02 15 3
bbc
That quote is taken out of context, it is for urban settings. The RSPB also state that cats should not be allowed to roam outside if you live near an environmentally sensitive area.
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01/03/2021 10:52:44 50 6
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I recommend that people join any local wildlife organisation, and perhaps some national ones too, such as RSPB (essential that one, the only wildlife charity in the UK with the clout to take on government departments and big developers), Butterfly Conservation and Plantlife. We have all benefited from nature during the lock downs, time to put something back.
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01/03/2021 11:54:00 39 2
bbc
And another top tip. Plant native hedges if you can. Avoid laurel, it is so bad for nature!
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01/03/2021 13:57:45 3 2
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Not for sparrows as I can attest.
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Eva
01/03/2021 15:33:24 0 1
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Except for Portaguese laurel.
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01/03/2021 11:57:05 5 3
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The human race will not be happy until everything is dead!!! That is our species legacy to the planet Earth. We can then slap ourselves on the back, "Good job done" Let's hope we never reach another lovely planet like Earth.
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01/03/2021 12:40:28 1 1
bbc
An Alien invasion at this point would be a blessing for Earth
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01/03/2021 13:22:47 2 1
bbc
I would say we, but in recent decades I've not really felt part of this species, so I will just say they

They really are a disgusting species, their offspring are like mini-me's, smaller versions of the stupid that came before, only for the cycle of stupidity to repeat

When I was 4, I asked my dad "what is money?"
He said "its what makes the world go around"

Obviously, I thought he was nuts
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01/03/2021 11:40:15 2 4
bbc
My tap water is already undrinkable until filtered. The Powers That Be don't seem to care.
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01/03/2021 11:58:34 3 2
bbc
Yeah, right. Mains tap water that is really unsafe wouldn't be coming to your house. Maybe it's not expensive enough and doesn't come in a trendy bottle? Try the water in a really unsafe country and see how that tastes.
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01/03/2021 11:43:14 27 5
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How long before we realise that the badger cull is interfering with the process of natural selection in badgers? Culling does not accurately replicate or mimic a natural apex predator. It targets those members of a clan who would otherwise perish last. It interferes with adaptations to the modern, shifting environment. It creates isolated groups and we all know where that leads. Vis dormice.
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01/03/2021 11:58:34 28 9
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Badger culling and the BTB scandal is yet another disgusting byproduct a UK landscape dominated by livestock farming.
LOSS OF HABITAT DRIVEN BY FARMING DOMINATION DRIVEN BY HUMAN OVERPOPULATION.
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01/03/2021 12:16:48 9 5
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About two years ago a study by vets proved badger culls achieve little or nothing in controlling tb. In some circumstances they can make matters worse. Later that year a study commissioned by the government reached the same conclusion. The despicable Gove said they would respond later in the year. He has, by licencing more areas for culling, no doubt after pressure from the dinosaurs of the NFU.
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01/03/2021 13:05:00 5 1
bbc
Except less and less land each year is being used in farming.

Livestock farming in the UK is at the lowest proportion of land use in 400 years.

Instead we are destroying virgin land in other countries to feed the UK.
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01/03/2021 11:53:03 11 8
bbc
Nearly 365,000,000 small mammals and birds killed in the UK by cats annually? Come off it! There is nowhere near that number in the first place!
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01/03/2021 11:59:46 4 2
bbc
Where did you get that figure from? The OP said "nearly a million", which is probably about right. That's nearly a million that won't breed and provide food for the natural food chain.
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01/03/2021 14:57:51 0 1
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Actually, they would already have provided food for the chain; many cats are feral.
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MVP
01/03/2021 11:37:02 10 12
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Our prime minister has recently approved a coal fired power station against the will of most environmentalists.

He does not seem to consider that the environment is of any importance.
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sw
01/03/2021 11:59:59 1 1
bbc
HS2, more road building, house building the PM has given the OK. Bad for the environment. The amount of empty houses is equivalent to a city the size of Oxford.
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01/03/2021 12:01:13 4 2
bbc
That photo of the Dee Esturay is a tad disingenuous - the biggest apparent 'emitter' there is in fact power station cooling towers so most of what you can see is just steam
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01/03/2021 12:05:11 2 1
bbc
There aren't any power stations on Dee Estuary except one Biopower one.
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01/03/2021 11:51:36 32 61
bbc
Something for all the jobless layabouts to do!
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01/03/2021 12:04:00 30 5
bbc
Have you not got hands? Why always look for someone else to do what you yourself were (initially at least... :-))perfectly well equipped to do. Passing the task on, typifies the attitude that always considers the environment to be someone else's problem.
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01/03/2021 12:53:18 10 10
bbc
I haven't got time....I have about 30 to an hour minutes time in the evening after its dark, even at weekends. I eat my lunch at my desk and occasionally catch up on news while doing so. If I didn't spend so much time working, I'd probably be unemployed in 6 months. The rest is childcare. I expect many others are in the same position....I don't clear up others' waste but nor do I create it.
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01/03/2021 15:16:33 1 1
bbc
I know what you mean and partially agree, but I get fed up of cleaning up after people (neighbours) who don't mind living in waste.
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01/03/2021 12:05:26 2 5
bbc
Wherever, whenever you can rewild your own land.
So many move out to the country, clueless about the natural world.
Let’s start a small holding on a few acres they say, we’ll seek advice from the local farmers, ( the very same many of whom have partaken in the historical destruction of UK habitats and native wildlife ).

So they set up their messy few acres.

BUY LAND TO REWILD. DONT BE A SHEEP
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01/03/2021 12:08:00 2 2
bbc
Simplistic idea that individuals can do this.

Need more NT, WWT, Woodland Trust etc. organisation and funding.
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01/03/2021 10:57:34 40 30
bbc
Very well said. Cats aren't meant to be here so anything they kill is a complete waste!
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01/03/2021 12:06:50 6 8
bbc
please explain why 'cats aren't meant to be here' - they weren't dreamed up in some Chinese genetics lab you know
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01/03/2021 12:28:44 6 4
bbc
Domestic cats are NOT native to the UK. As far as species-ist... lets get real and accept that non indigenous organisms should not be in the UK.
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01/03/2021 12:32:39 5 4
bbc
They aren't an indigenous species so they upset the balance of the UK eco system. The animals and birds they slaughter each year won't breed and provide food for the natural, indigenous food chain.
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01/03/2021 12:49:16 5 5
bbc
Domestic cats are not indigenous - just like grey squirrels. Wild Cats, as pictured, are the native British species, just as Red Squirrels are. And just as the Greys have driven out the Reds, so domestic cats have driven out our native wild cat.
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01/03/2021 12:07:58 3 3
bbc
Instead of us building turbines in the North Sea, why dont we rent some land off the Aussies and build some turbines and with that energy run desalination plants for water to grow all our food and then we can just give our fields back to nature. We are hypocrites for having a go at people burning down the Amazon, look from Google Earth at the UK and there is barely any trees here...
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01/03/2021 12:23:55 2 3
bbc
because the power loss in the transmission lines over 12.000 miles would be more than the amount of electricity that actually reached us, solar panels in the Sahara would be a better option,(though not much)
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01/03/2021 11:31:05 17 14
bbc
Perhaps we should reduce house prices, they are far too high, too much invested in houses not factories. Put a cap on house prices and mortgage mulitples. 2x salary for mortgage and 20quid a sq yd for house prices. Dont update, dont upgrade, dont inflation lock it.
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01/03/2021 12:07:59 15 2
bbc
I can remember when you couldn't get a mortgage for more than 3x annual salary. Makes today's market seem exactly what it is - utterly ludicrously overpriced
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01/03/2021 12:52:15 12 1
bbc
Buy to let mortgages are also driving this problem .... it all stems from the collapse of the interest rates in the last recession which politicians refused to correct in the intervening years, leaving us stuck with decades of low rates.

So:
(a) people can only make money in housing
(b) they can afford to get mortgages because the repayments are low.

I know a couple who have now got 6 houses!
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01/03/2021 12:03:48 7 3
bbc
It's hard to buy anything not in plastic, annoying to unwrap to just then throw away.

Drinks used to come in glass bottles refundable, gone backwards. !
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01/03/2021 14:43:13 4 1
bbc
But the pollution in producing a glass bottle is equivalent of a thousand plastic bottles.
Plastic bottles are not the problem but the numpties who do not recycle them.
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01/03/2021 12:01:13 4 2
bbc
That photo of the Dee Esturay is a tad disingenuous - the biggest apparent 'emitter' there is in fact power station cooling towers so most of what you can see is just steam
95
01/03/2021 12:05:11 2 1
bbc
There aren't any power stations on Dee Estuary except one Biopower one.
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01/03/2021 12:05:26 2 5
bbc
Wherever, whenever you can rewild your own land.
So many move out to the country, clueless about the natural world.
Let’s start a small holding on a few acres they say, we’ll seek advice from the local farmers, ( the very same many of whom have partaken in the historical destruction of UK habitats and native wildlife ).

So they set up their messy few acres.

BUY LAND TO REWILD. DONT BE A SHEEP
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01/03/2021 12:08:00 2 2
bbc
Simplistic idea that individuals can do this.

Need more NT, WWT, Woodland Trust etc. organisation and funding.
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01/03/2021 12:09:05 2 3
bbc
Sign of the times, kill everything that does not produce a profit.
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01/03/2021 11:30:59 6 1
bbc
I'd partially agree with you, unfortunately the true sense of rewilding will not work in the UK as there is not enough space and fencing would have to be part of the solution to keep out large herbivores, look at the mess Oostvaardersplassen got themselves in. "Light" intervention will always be needed unfortunately, look at Knepp. Reduced grazing pressure would be a good start though.
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01/03/2021 12:09:09 8 5
bbc
not a Vegan too are you by any chance? The 'livestock' are there for a reason, farmers don't breed them for fun
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01/03/2021 12:28:52 10 2
bbc
Definitely not a vegan about as far removed as you can get, I am one of those horrible people that are willing and does kill and prepare their own meat for consumption and very much on the farmers side, I know how hard it is for hill farmers to make a profit, no one else would put the hours in they do for the money they get, my side is one of balance
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01/03/2021 11:45:34 2 3
bbc
Where are the bottle banks, the car registration on the fast food outlets. I have heard these are coming? but when
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Bob
01/03/2021 12:09:56 6 1
bbc
I'm assuming by 'car reg on fast food outlets' you mean to catch people dumping the rubbish?

I have a friend working at a McDonald's and this already happens. They can look it up from the receipt and you get a nice letter sent.
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01/03/2021 10:52:44 50 6
bbc
I recommend that people join any local wildlife organisation, and perhaps some national ones too, such as RSPB (essential that one, the only wildlife charity in the UK with the clout to take on government departments and big developers), Butterfly Conservation and Plantlife. We have all benefited from nature during the lock downs, time to put something back.
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01/03/2021 12:10:32 4 19
bbc
But NOT RSPCA, they are now primarily a left-wing political pressure group who just happen to deal with the odd animal or 2 along the way
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01/03/2021 12:51:59 10 2
bbc
RSPCA are not a conservation organisation! They have been hammered for some of their activities over the last decade, but have recently declared that they will cut out the legal nonsense and go back to looking after and re homing domestic animals.
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01/03/2021 16:26:28 5 3
bbc
Your name is a misnomer. If it's left wing to be opposed to animal cruelty then I'm happy and proud to be left wing.