Coronavirus spread slowed by vaccines, study suggests
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There was a 75% reduction in staff at Addenbrooke's Hospital testing positive after a vaccination.
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Shall we all just take a moment to bask in the knowledge that Shamima is never, never, never, never, never going to step foot back in the UK with her poisonous ideology and history behind her.
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But her kids might - after they’ve been radicalised in the camp. I think it would make sense to help them escape the poisonous ideology that may bring bloodshed to our shores in the future.
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Normally when 15 year old children are groomed and manipulated into doing something that's bad for them we treat them as victims and go after the groomers. What's the difference here? That Britain, alledgedly a global player, 6th biggest economy in the world, with an army that claims to be world class can't even clean this mess up itself, but seeks to foist the problem on Bangladesh, is pathetic.
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Read the researcher's words: "The vaccine doesn't completely prevent infection and so handwashing, mask-wearing, social distancing, regular testing are as important as they ever are."
Because you still get sick - do read the wider issues and data.
"Control". i.e. the Government is frightened of losing it.
Which is interesting, since they have managed to frighten an awful lot of the UK population.
Which is interesting, since they have managed to frighten an awful lot of the UK population.
We aren't opening faster because they're all obsessed with lockdowns and if you try to dispute it you get attacked by all the lockdown sycophants on here.
1 in 5 Local Authority areas seeing rises in cases this week. To echo JVT, don’t wreck this now. Let’s keep to the rules and come out of this as a nation soon.
It doesn't matter what anyone does, this lockdown will never end. Feel free to stick to the rules if you want but it'll do no good.
Kent variant still working its way through places well away from London which are belatedly seeing a wave of that variant.
1 in 5 people in this country live the lockdown so much that they don't want it to end. Even when deaths drop to low low numbers they'll still be clamouring for restrictions to be extended to keep their beloved 'pandemic' alive.
Good to see the UK parliament and government acting for the people unlike one of the devolved administrations. I bet the Scots wished that Westminster was running the vaccine program north of the border, after what Salmond has been saying about the SNP.
I live in Scotland - the programme is as efficient as that in England. Please do try to keep focused on actual results, rather than political sideshows blown up by the media. By the way, I have never voted SNP.
There are two sides to every story. The SNP are more than the FMs, and Scotland is generally well pleased with the running of the country, especially with the SNP's handling of the pandemic and vaccine rollout.
Scottish Health service, Scottish Parliament, Scottish government, and Scottish people are managing fine.
On target vaccination wise :-
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
To combat the mortalities per 100,000 population to date :-
Wales 168.1
Scotland 130.2
N.I 108.3
England 191.8
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
On target vaccination wise :-
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
To combat the mortalities per 100,000 population to date :-
Wales 168.1
Scotland 130.2
N.I 108.3
England 191.8
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Good point well made.
To be fair, while the vaccines are known to prevent serious illness from Covid, it wasn't by any means a foregone conclusion that they would reduce transmission rates. This is very good news.
True, but it is easy to be the sarcastic. This vaccine is a large achievement.
The faster we ALL get vaccinated, while remaining socially distanced, the faster the new normal can come to pass. So, behave, you lot! :-)
Anything which gets us closer to the end of these ridiculous, anxiety driven, environmentally disastrous face masks the better.
Not new normal but just back to pre COVID normality. This might scare the meek and mild but for the majority of the nation and thankfully this present government pre COVID
normality is what is expected on June 21st if things continue on the present positive route.
normality is what is expected on June 21st if things continue on the present positive route.
A little sacrifice on our part will go along way, It is something that we all can do, And to the credit of the four administrations in the United Kingdom vaccine rollout is a phenomenal success, It literally is a couple of months before we are back to normal stick with my fellow citizens
And you will get the complete opposite of normal in any humane sense! There's wishful thinking and then there is sheer mindlessness... but such is the nature of inversion and media support for your delusion, you'll just apply the word "mindlessness" void of context in your own subjective way. Because why not? Forget context to the pro-new normal brigade, anything to get back down the pub asap haha
New normal is as unacceptable as New Speak.
Agreed. Not yet peer reviewed so some caution needed, but on the face of it yet more evidence that refusing the vaccine is irresponsible and selfish
Nothing to do with the BS PCR test then?
Try stop going to the supermarket - it's probably where you'll catch it
Can someone please enlighten me as to why I should feel forced to inject a foreign substance into my body, when I've already had corona virus (which barely affected me) and I'm in an age group and risk category than makes me MASSIVELY unlikely to have any complications? By all means, get vaccinated, if you're in a danger group. I'm not anti vax. However don't force me to have it!
Great news unless people take this as the green light to do as they please. Although that’s not stopped a minority anyway..
Good news. Infections are low; 19 million people have a high level of protection. Time to start lifting the restrictions starting with schools in March, hospitality and shops in April and all borders by May.
We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
There will always be people.doing as they like in this spoilt society.
The success of the vaccine rollout has almost nothing to do with Boris and is just about the only bright point in an otherwise woeful display of government dithering and incompetence throughout the entire pandemic
But they will be very thankful for the scientists and the NHS, regardless what they think of the politicians.
Boris Johnson has absolutely nothing to do with the vaccine success. Our money funded the research. Our scientific community and regulators worked overtime on it. The NHS and an absolute army of volunteers are executing delivery. This is not organised centrally by Tories as there’s no profit to be gleaned.
Thankfully they got the F out of the way and let the experts run it. Ergo, success.
Thankfully they got the F out of the way and let the experts run it. Ergo, success.
1 in 5 Local Authority areas seeing rises in cases this week. To echo JVT, don’t wreck this now. Let’s keep to the rules and come out of this as a nation soon.
You sound positively delusional are you suffering from some kind paranoia
Lets see what happens over the next 3-6 months. As long as we get no new vaccine resistant mutations spreading...so I'm afraid travelling to countries with interesting new variants is off the cards.
and you have empirical proof?
We could do without morons like you thanks.
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Unadulterated nonsense.
I've yet to hear ONE rational reason from your ilk to back up your claims.
I've yet to hear ONE rational reason from your ilk to back up your claims.
Not following the rules kills someone down the line. We all need to follow the rules until everyone is vaccinated. Once we know what transmission is then we will know if we can drop mitigations.
Pure bovine scatology. Can we have a look [laugh] at the statistics and science that your theory is based upon?
Ridiculous isnt it. Fit and healthy people are scared of this bug its absolutely mental
Oh dear, another conspiracy theorist.
Go on then; what benefits do the government gain from applying restrictions which have a negative effect on the economy?
Answer: None
It's nonsense.
Go on then; what benefits do the government gain from applying restrictions which have a negative effect on the economy?
Answer: None
It's nonsense.
Great news. My profession has been decimated by the lack of work and I cant wait to get back to but even I don't want to through another lockdown so lets take our time and do it properly.
Open up too quickly, against the science and the data, and the irreversible steps to reopening will be reversed and Lockdown 4 will be imposed. The quickest way to reopen society and get back to near normal is for everyone to follow the rules and get vaccinated as soon as they are able. We are not yet at the point where another huge spike in cases is no longer a serious risk.
Great news that a pub chain has said that ALL staff have to have a vaccination to keep their jobs.
I must’ve missed that one. Which pub chain? Thank goodness for the EHCR
Cant believe a pub chain is waiting till August so its 18 years get the jab.
That would, of course, be illegal unless the government make a fundamental change to the law on medical confidentiality.
Under current regulations and Caldicott principles employers cannot demand to see employees medical records.
Under current regulations and Caldicott principles employers cannot demand to see employees medical records.
And how will the vaccine stop them catching or spreading coronavirus, that's the big question.
And given that AstraZeneca has much reduced effect against the South African variety it may be a good while yet before anything approaching 'normality' returns.
And given that AstraZeneca has much reduced effect against the South African variety it may be a good while yet before anything approaching 'normality' returns.
Illegal discrimination under current law
The lockdown lovers will be very worried about this, but don't worry, they'll find another reason to keep it going.
Not to be tolerated. People have allergies. People are pregnant. People are trying to be pregnant. They are told by government (see their website) not to be vaccinated and then threatened with the sack and now exclusion from public places for it as well as being harangued on television by halfwitted journalists. These attitudes are a national disgrace.
200,000 and counting for signatures in the 'Do not rollout Covid-19 vaccine passports' petition on the Gov website. Seems like a lot of people disagree with you.
I'm in favour of vaccine passports, as long as those who choose not to be vaccinated are free to discriminate to their heart's content against those who've had the vaccine. If then. It goes something like this: "You'd like a haircut sir? Do you have a vaccine passport? You do? Well, get lost."
Even Boris knows they would be an expensive disaster (except for lawyers).
How long after a jab are you immune?
One jab or two?
How long do you stay immune?
Do different vaccines give longer immunity?
What about those not vaccinated until August?
When immunity expires, how will you get a passport renewed?
What about children/teenagers?
What about the 1-in-3 that vaccines don't work on?
How long after a jab are you immune?
One jab or two?
How long do you stay immune?
Do different vaccines give longer immunity?
What about those not vaccinated until August?
When immunity expires, how will you get a passport renewed?
What about children/teenagers?
What about the 1-in-3 that vaccines don't work on?
Totally meaningless, no indication at all that you're not infected or spreading disease.
It won't be the UK that state we need vaccination passports, it will be the countries we want to enter who knew ght demand them, the same as some countries won't accept you without. Yellow fever vaccination certificate
1 in 5 Local Authority areas seeing rises in cases this week. To echo JVT, don’t wreck this now. Let’s keep to the rules and come out of this as a nation soon.
But it goes if you follow the lockdown AND get vaccinated.
Where I live in Kent we had a number of 40/100k in September last year.
The Kent variant came along and we went to 1100/100k
Now we are at 60/100k and falling fast.
Lockdown + vaccination works.
Where I live in Kent we had a number of 40/100k in September last year.
The Kent variant came along and we went to 1100/100k
Now we are at 60/100k and falling fast.
Lockdown + vaccination works.
The B117 variant is dominant almost everywhere in the UK now. Let's hope that the South African ( B.1.351) variant can't out compete it. Although the SA variant is in the county that I live in now...great :-)
Normally when 15 year old children are groomed and manipulated into doing something that's bad for them we treat them as victims and go after the groomers. What's the difference here? That Britain, alledgedly a global player, 6th biggest economy in the world, with an army that claims to be world class can't even clean this mess up itself, but seeks to foist the problem on Bangladesh, is pathetic.
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Not only are 53 million face masks being throw away EACH day in the UK alone.
There is something particularly unsettling having the MP’s sitting in Parliament, the centre of debate, discussion and democracy within this country wearing these things.
There is something particularly unsettling having the MP’s sitting in Parliament, the centre of debate, discussion and democracy within this country wearing these things.
Blimey, not living up to your moniker!
Masks are not ridiculous (much misused word). They are driven by science and most human activity has a negative environmental impact (such as zoonoses).
Get a grip and stop being contrary.
Masks are not ridiculous (much misused word). They are driven by science and most human activity has a negative environmental impact (such as zoonoses).
Get a grip and stop being contrary.
Poor Snowflake, doesn't like wearing that nasty mask, diddums. Mummy will help you I'm sure.
How can something that protects both the wearer and everyone else, even to a limited extent be ridiculous? Would you rather that infections and deaths were higher? Sure. everyone would rather not have to wear them, but it is a small inconvenience compared to the alternative.
They're driven by scientific knowledge, not anxiety & in what manner are they "environmentally disastrous"?
Utter nonsense.
Utter nonsense.
Mixed message there mate!
To get rid of restrictions and mitigations a high proportion of the population needs to be vaccinated, how much will depend on transmission and the govt. aren't confirming that figure yet.
Honestly, what is the problem with face masks. Yes they are inconvenient, yes I would prefer not to wear one. But of all the things we are being asked to do to reduce the spread of this virus, this is one that costs the economy NOTHING, causes ZERO job losses and has little to no effect on individuals lives. Get over it for gods sake.
Of course it has, or his government, it's the team put in place to make the early procurement f everything form backing the vaccine research, the buying of needles etc combined with the subsequent logistics from the army and NHS - it's a combination of everything
If Corbyn was PM he's have given all our doses of vaccine to 3rd world countries, as it's proven he hates the UK.
So tell me who placed theses orders for all the vaccines, who put a large amount of money into researching theses vaccines, you may not like Boris but credit to all involved and that includes Boris and the Government so just stop Boris bashing it is really boring.
If the responsibility of failure rests at the feet of Boris then so does the responsibility of success. You can’t pick and choose. I couldn’t care less about the bloke and think in general this has been handled woefully but you should be fair here - look at other countries vaccine rollouts for evidence
It has everything to do with Boris & the government, as it's a part of the government (the NHS is is a part of & charged with carrying out government instructions).
Sun is shining, daffs are in bloom and infection rates are falling. Spring is here at last. Be happy, but stay careful.
By summer, a considerable number will have been vaccinated and with luck businesses will have re-opened.
...............and HYSers will still be hiding indoors / carping.
................by Autumn we'll be sunning ourselves on distant shores.
What's not to like??
...............and HYSers will still be hiding indoors / carping.
................by Autumn we'll be sunning ourselves on distant shores.
What's not to like??
HYSers love the lockdown too much. It's really comfortable behind that sofa!
Well, Autumn is followed by Winter
and we know what happens to 'flu every winter (even with vaccinations).
and we know what happens to 'flu every winter (even with vaccinations).
Time to continue the roll out, keep watching those numbers tumble and open up as and when we hit those magic targets.
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
Great news that a pub chain has said that ALL staff have to have a vaccination to keep their jobs.
The vaccinated are so scared to come into contact with the unvaccinated. Vaccinate to protect yourself. I don't wear shoes to protect your feet.
You don't understand the point of vaccination do you? Prat.
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Why should vaccinated people be scared of those that aren't?
You're a bit mixed up here!
You're a bit mixed up here!
But you need to get vaccinated to protect those who can't be. Unless you're very selfish.
What a crass & nonsensical statement.
Your "comparison" is also truly ridiculous & of the nonsensical kind so often spouted by conspiracy theory believing anti vaxxers.
Your "comparison" is also truly ridiculous & of the nonsensical kind so often spouted by conspiracy theory believing anti vaxxers.
Really?
I've looked & the government must be hiding the more than 120,000 people killed by a bus over the past year.
Ah, I get it: they all had positive Covid tests, so were classed as dying with Covid... ??
I've looked & the government must be hiding the more than 120,000 people killed by a bus over the past year.
Ah, I get it: they all had positive Covid tests, so were classed as dying with Covid... ??
Time to continue the roll out, keep watching those numbers tumble and open up as and when we hit those magic targets.
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
This is fabulous news. The vaccination programme is the ONLY way out of this hideous infection/deaths/lockdown cycle we’ve been stuck in for the last 12 months. Everybody wants to get back to some semblance of normality in their lives, so get vaccinated as soon as it’s offered to you..for yourself, your family and society as a whole!
The Pfizer vaccine is the most effective one isn't it?
But take whichever one you are offered.
But take whichever one you are offered.
I think he does. The main reason anyone has a vaccination is to stop themselves becoming ill. Once you've had it, you shouldn't be too worried if you're near someone with the illness.
The lockdown lovers will be very worried about this, but don't worry, they'll find another reason to keep it going.
It's not a joke though, I'm being serious.
We aren't opening faster because they're all obsessed with lockdowns and if you try to dispute it you get attacked by all the lockdown sycophants on here.
Does any one believe that flu cases are zero, zilch, nada. A medical miracle, where have they gone? The more enlightened would know the answer.
They aren't zero! But the majority of those who would die of influenza are already shielding, and are therefore less likely to catch it! Is it really that hard to comprehend?!
Social distancing etc has had other benefits by suppressing all sorts of viruses and infections.
Those vulnerable to flu and are likely to be hospitalised for it are much likely to be the same population that has been shielding. Also people with flu symptoms are more likely to stay at home now rather than playing martyrs and infecting their coworkers. I normally get about 3 colds a year working in open plan office. Worked from home since March and had not a single cold - strange eh?
Deaths due to flu (20,000 in an average year) are being recorded as Covid.
Covid deaths are recorded are those “with a positive covid test within 28 days” so get hit by a bus and you’ll be recorded as a covid death.
Many with a NEGATIVE test are recorded as Covid deaths: read Belle Mooneys report on her father who had 3 negative test, yet was still recorded as a covid death.
Covid deaths are recorded are those “with a positive covid test within 28 days” so get hit by a bus and you’ll be recorded as a covid death.
Many with a NEGATIVE test are recorded as Covid deaths: read Belle Mooneys report on her father who had 3 negative test, yet was still recorded as a covid death.
I know it's hard for some to grasp but restrictions put in place to reduce Covid transmission are even more effective against a less infectious virus - flu.
Nor have there been NO cases, as the most recent flu survey shows:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/964754/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w8.pdf
Flu vaccine uptake has been higher
Nor have there been NO cases, as the most recent flu survey shows:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/964754/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w8.pdf
Flu vaccine uptake has been higher
Any chance of some knighthoods for some scientists we have never heard of please (and maybe throw in a pay rise as well... and some for the doctors, nurses and healthcare pro's as well).
I have never been a fan of the honours system but surely this is the people we need to thank and this seems like a good vehicle to me.
I have never been a fan of the honours system but surely this is the people we need to thank and this seems like a good vehicle to me.
Sir Matt Hancock and pay rises all round for the cabinet - I think that's the way governments tend to do these things.
There is no Empire.
Agreed. It is about time the honours went to the true heroes in the country and not to petty politicians like Ms McIavelli.
Time to continue the roll out, keep watching those numbers tumble and open up as and when we hit those magic targets.
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
Let’s extend furlough and really see this off
Great news that a pub chain has said that ALL staff have to have a vaccination to keep their jobs.
The ECHR can't do a thing.
Thankfully.
Thankfully.
1 in 5 Local Authority areas seeing rises in cases this week. To echo JVT, don’t wreck this now. Let’s keep to the rules and come out of this as a nation soon.
1) Well speaking for me, I can't wait for it to end. I want to be able to visit my family and friends again. As an at risk person, I have been isolating for a year and it isn't much fun. That is exactly the reason that I don't want people spreading the SA variant, or developing/spreading new variants which could bypass the vaccines. I don't want to be in lockdown for the next year or two.
2) If we can keep the B117 variant, and not get any new ones which can bypass the vaccines, once most people have been vaccinated we can move to the new normal. I am looking forward to being able to return to the pub for the odd beer and the occasional holiday. But I don't want to throw all of that away by spreading a new vaccine busting variant. I don't like this game of Snakes and Ladders.
That's daft. Have you ever talked to anyone who is forced to shield.
Another made up "fact".
It's completely untrue & any rational person knows this.
It's completely untrue & any rational person knows this.
You don't understand the point of vaccination do you? Prat.
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You don't understand the point of vaccination do you? Prat.
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No...it helps all of society by creating herd immunity. The more vaccinated, the more the virus is suppressed and the quicker life returns to normal (however that will look)
You're certainly NOT a medical doctor, spouting such arrant nonsense.
Mass vaccination is intended to give a degree of protection to the whole population.
Mass vaccination is intended to give a degree of protection to the whole population.
Great news unless people take this as the green light to do as they please. Although that’s not stopped a minority anyway..
Good news. Infections are low; 19 million people have a high level of protection. Time to start lifting the restrictions starting with schools in March, hospitality and shops in April and all borders by May.
We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
true. Every year there are flu deaths. will the ' not one covid death is acceptable' snowflakes now have the mantra ' not one flu death is acceptable'.
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Not the right thing to do... you sound like a 5 year old looking forward to Christmas.
Open up too quickly, against the science and the data, and the irreversible steps to reopening will be reversed and Lockdown 4 will be imposed. The quickest way to reopen society and get back to near normal is for everyone to follow the rules and get vaccinated as soon as they are able. We are not yet at the point where another huge spike in cases is no longer a serious risk.
Then you don't understand why people wanted a lockdown.
If we can all go out without covid cases growing exponentially, without hospitals getting overwhelmed and without people needlessly dying then there is no further purpose for a lockdown.
Nobody wants it to last indefinitely and nobody thinks that we have to wait for it to go away completely
If we can all go out without covid cases growing exponentially, without hospitals getting overwhelmed and without people needlessly dying then there is no further purpose for a lockdown.
Nobody wants it to last indefinitely and nobody thinks that we have to wait for it to go away completely
Vaccinations should be made compulsory to everyone few peoples think they can get away by vaccines others so selfish
If you have to sign to consent people to give you a so called vaccine, surely this alone should ring alarm bells... This vaccine is rushed and people around the world are dying from this so called vaccine.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.
That will never happen. And should not ever happen. And I’m not even anti-vaccine. Just pro-freedom.
It’s weird isn’t it? It’s almost like there has been some sort of major shift in society that has stopped the flu from spreading as much this winter. As you say I’m sure someone will enlighten us.
so covid has actually saved the lives of those who would have been flu victims. good old covid.
By summer, a considerable number will have been vaccinated and with luck businesses will have re-opened.
...............and HYSers will still be hiding indoors / carping.
................by Autumn we'll be sunning ourselves on distant shores.
What's not to like??
...............and HYSers will still be hiding indoors / carping.
................by Autumn we'll be sunning ourselves on distant shores.
What's not to like??
It’s not about loving the lockdown. Just accepting that it’s needed and is working. Grow up
Only in what passes for the minds of those who believe lockdown doesn't work.
Kent variant still working its way through places well away from London which are belatedly seeing a wave of that variant.
Kent variant was rising very significantly in South Yorkshire throughout January. It would have been a massive problem if we hadn’t had the lockdown.
I'm sorry to pee on this parade but infections are falling in line with a fall in testing hahaha... the more you test the more infections... the less you test the fewer infections... simple mathematics.
And in other totally unexpected news, the sun rose this morning.
What a lovely blue sky day it was.
The sun does not rise, the earth orbits the sun, happy to help you out.
"The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new"
- Samuel Beckett
- Samuel Beckett
I don't go by dates, I go by the data. It's in our hands to save lives until everyone is vaccinated
Great!, the decline in Covid is due to a combination of vaccine and herd immunity. Remember the high uptake of Flu jabs resulting in zero deaths? = Vax + immunity. The high number of infections without a Covid vaccine through October - January meant that a high number of people developed natural antibodies, these, combined with the vaccine program has dramatically reduced new infections.
They'll need to hire people with electric cattle prods to go around and force them to leave the house, even if it means prising the fingers from the door frame.
A bit like that guy who went around working class towns with a big stick, knocking people's bedroom windows to tell them it was time to go down t'mill.
A bit like that guy who went around working class towns with a big stick, knocking people's bedroom windows to tell them it was time to go down t'mill.
Only in your mind.
The vast majority can't wait to be vaccinated & back to something close to normal life.
The vast majority can't wait to be vaccinated & back to something close to normal life.
I understand perfectly well but have had one sided debated with those planning to get vaccinated that think non vaccinated individuals should be separated from society......you vaccinate to protect yourself. It should be of no concern who you come into contact with after you have protected yourself. They never answer politely or with any logical reasoning.
Let me guess; you're one of the selfish types who will refuse the vaccine, not caring if in doing so, you become infected & quite possibly infect someone vulnerable who CAN'T have the vaccine.
Exceedingly antisocial.
Exceedingly antisocial.
Great news that a pub chain has said that ALL staff have to have a vaccination to keep their jobs.
Oh no, please spare a thought for the tin pot dictators of the uk who will now be struggling to think of yet more excuses to continue the incarceration for the crimes we have not committed and hang on to the power they've enjoyed.
It's never ending, they will just dial up cycles for PCR testing, and we are back into lock down. This is the reason Hancock wants more testing.
What complete & utter, hysterical & hyperbolic nonsense.
Go on: Explain to everyone how relatively minor restrictions on social mixing have benefited the elected government...
Oh, you can't. ??
Go on: Explain to everyone how relatively minor restrictions on social mixing have benefited the elected government...
Oh, you can't. ??
Of course it has, or his government, it's the team put in place to make the early procurement f everything form backing the vaccine research, the buying of needles etc combined with the subsequent logistics from the army and NHS - it's a combination of everything
The latter is a politically motivated lie
We might be in for a shock later this year due to low immunity to the other endemic viruses
Great news that a pub chain has said that ALL staff have to have a vaccination to keep their jobs.
Nonsense.
They can request relevant information & can also make relevant stipulations too & under certain situations, could actually be held responsible if one of their staff spread their infection to customers.
They can request relevant information & can also make relevant stipulations too & under certain situations, could actually be held responsible if one of their staff spread their infection to customers.
Obviously it is.
I understand perfectly well but have had one sided debated with those planning to get vaccinated that think non vaccinated individuals should be separated from society......you vaccinate to protect yourself. It should be of no concern who you come into contact with after you have protected yourself. They never answer politely or with any logical reasoning.
Exactly. Read his post again and you'll see it says that vaccinated are scared to come into contact with those unvaccinated.
Absolutely! You have an inoculation to protect yourself, and that's it. This pressure of making you responsible for the safety of others is plain wrong.
Why give a logical response to someone spouting illogical, narcissistic nonsense, as it's plain you aren't interested in any reply which shows how ridiculous your position is.
And in other totally unexpected news, the sun rose this morning.
If the responsibility of failure rests at the feet of Boris then so does the responsibility of success. You can’t pick and choose. I couldn’t care less about the bloke and think in general this has been handled woefully but you should be fair here - look at other countries vaccine rollouts for evidence
We need to introduce vaccine passports for the age groups that's qualified. Then people in those groups who refuse to be vaccinated should have to live under lockdown conditions until they do.
If you have to sign to consent people to give you a so called vaccine, surely this alone should ring alarm bells... This vaccine is rushed and people around the world are dying from this so called vaccine.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.
Who is dying from the vaccines. Supporting evidence please.
Your post highlights the joy of living in a country like the UK; even idiots like you can have a say. Al you are doing is guessing and scaremongering.
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And to use up the testing equipment that his mates got big contracts and financial payments to produce.
Utter nonsense.
Give ONE rational reason why the government would wish to continue restrictions any longer than absolutely necessary.
You can't. ??
Give ONE rational reason why the government would wish to continue restrictions any longer than absolutely necessary.
You can't. ??
Excellent news, but, as JVT has just said, now isn't the time take the foot off and think its all over. And, again as he said a few weeks ago, there s also the very real worry that, as vaccines bite, the virus will come under pressure, and will mutate again in order to escape and continue to replicate. And the more people become complacent, the bigger chance there is of this happening.
Those vulnerable to flu and are likely to be hospitalised for it are much likely to be the same population that has been shielding. Also people with flu symptoms are more likely to stay at home now rather than playing martyrs and infecting their coworkers. I normally get about 3 colds a year working in open plan office. Worked from home since March and had not a single cold - strange eh?
THIS IS FACT...
A friend of mines dad is 89 years old. He had the so called vaccine two weeks ago. Yesterday he tested positive for COVID.
He went the whole year without getting it, then has the so called vaccine and now he is becoming ill. This is no vaccine.
A friend of mines dad is 89 years old. He had the so called vaccine two weeks ago. Yesterday he tested positive for COVID.
He went the whole year without getting it, then has the so called vaccine and now he is becoming ill. This is no vaccine.
Vaccine is not effective for at least two to three weeks after 1st jab.
It takes longer than two weeks to get any meaningful level of immunity. Did he go to a rave?
Hmm. Don't you need at least 3 weeks to get immunity plus vaccine doesn't give 100% immunity, 90% means that 10 out 100 people can still get it. Though let's not worry ourselves with so called facts!
I's sorry your father has tested positive, however it is not a 'so called vaccine' it is an actual real vaccine. It does however take the body two or three weeks to develop the antibodies required to protect the individual against the disease.
Look at ONS data, 400 died after taking vaccine. also 191,000 reactions :- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
And the other 18 million to have the vaccine and not get Covid?
A. It it takes 3 weeks or so to get to full 1st-dose strength.
B. It doesn't stop you getting covid and nobody has claimed it does. It reduces severity of symptoms and risk of hospitalisation/death
C. It's effectiveness is 80-90% or so depending which one he got.
I hope your dad's friend is ok
A. It it takes 3 weeks or so to get to full 1st-dose strength.
B. It doesn't stop you getting covid and nobody has claimed it does. It reduces severity of symptoms and risk of hospitalisation/death
C. It's effectiveness is 80-90% or so depending which one he got.
I hope your dad's friend is ok
When a post starts in capitals and then says it's fact then it's very suspect
Walter, what does anything have to do with Vietnam!?
It doesn't matter what anyone does, this lockdown will never end. Feel free to stick to the rules if you want but it'll do no good.
Er... Aye... Very good.
We need to introduce vaccine passports for the age groups that's qualified. Then people in those groups who refuse to be vaccinated should have to live under lockdown conditions until they do.
If you have to sign to consent people to give you a so called vaccine, surely this alone should ring alarm bells... This vaccine is rushed and people around the world are dying from this so called vaccine.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.
Feel free to take it, but make sure you at least take out life insurance first. As funeral costs for family members are not fair at all.