Scotland play South Africa in first game
26/02/2021 | sport | rugbyunion | 288
Scotland will play defending champions South Africa in their first match of the 2023 Rugby World Cup in France.
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
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Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 13:04:37 11 6
bbc
Very disappointing

France and Scotland only teams playing exciting rugby

Coming from an England fan
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26/02/2021 13:10:36 1 2
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All the NH teams have failed to get out their group at least once, but the problem is caused by World Rugby seeding groups over 3 years before the event.
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26/02/2021 13:10:48 4 10
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Let's hope Scotland not awarded 28-0 win. That would be a travesty.
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26/02/2021 13:58:16 0 2
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I'm glad it's off. A Scottish victory would've been hollow.

Though I wonder if potentially the date it's played is one where fans are allowed back into stadiums and if that's the case, whether it should be allowed, since all other 6N games haven't had a crowd.
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26/02/2021 15:02:52 2 2
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It is unfortunate that Scotland are playing the Boks instead of England!
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27/02/2021 12:35:03 1 1
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Pseudo Ref
This game was on until the last minute, so don't spout you were right, because you said it would have been cancelled from the start which was incorrect and the rest of us said that unless there is continuous positive tests it would be on.
Like it was until Thursday evening
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26/02/2021 13:02:05 3 7
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The Welsh will be favourites
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26/02/2021 13:11:15 6 2
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You have got in quite early for the most asinine comment in this HYS.
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26/02/2021 13:03:38 0 10
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South Africa will win the World Cup again.
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26/02/2021 13:10:37 2 1
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I see you have a crystal ball. What will be the lottery numbers this weekend. Should be easy seeing as you can tell the future in 2 and a half years time.
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26/02/2021 14:03:39 1 1
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Ah clever, see what you did; not mentioned which year.
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
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Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 13:04:37 11 6
bbc
Very disappointing

France and Scotland only teams playing exciting rugby

Coming from an England fan
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26/02/2021 13:06:30 2 3
bbc
Yeah, ruins super Saturday, but I guess we get to see Dupont in action, which is always good.
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26/02/2021 13:05:48 1 1
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Just 2 & half years to go till these games. Wow ??
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26/02/2021 13:04:37 11 6
bbc
Very disappointing

France and Scotland only teams playing exciting rugby

Coming from an England fan
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26/02/2021 13:06:30 2 3
bbc
Yeah, ruins super Saturday, but I guess we get to see Dupont in action, which is always good.
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26/02/2021 13:07:37 21 1
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I've never understood why the Rugby Union World Cup does their draw and fixtures so far in advance. Every other sport seems to manage just fine with a six-month preparation.

Anyone know?
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26/02/2021 13:14:10 7 4
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It's supposed to allow the organisers to better prepare. Depending on who's playing where could potentially require some fairly hefty infrastructure arrangements.

For example if France were playing England in a New Zealand world cup, having that in somewhere like Invercargill could potentially overload the local amenities.

Load of nonsense if you ask me.
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26/02/2021 14:55:34 0 2
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With Lions tours in between RWCs , potentially, impacting the seedings, pretty much the only time a non-impacted seeding can be done is the year before a lions tour.

As far as the general logistics are concerned, in most countries the availability of rugby grounds with sufficient infrastructure is very limited, requiring a longer lead time.

Don’t see a downside to more time to prepare.
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26/02/2021 13:07:55 4 21
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Easy game for Scotland apparently. I mean according to their fans they thrashed England recently and again according to their fans England bottled it against SA in RWC final.
Jesus

U r deluded
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26/02/2021 14:38:23 2 1
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Boring!!
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26/02/2021 13:08:28 12 4
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Considering it’s in 2 and a half years time it’s beyond stupid people here are talking about winners and favourites.
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26/02/2021 17:07:52 3 1
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Except it will be the same old winners/favourites as it is every World Cup.
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26/02/2021 13:09:44 2 1
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As always, NZ be strong favourites and this time France. NZ France opening match be something!
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
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Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 13:10:36 1 2
bbc
All the NH teams have failed to get out their group at least once, but the problem is caused by World Rugby seeding groups over 3 years before the event.
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26/02/2021 13:21:16 4 1
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Actually France have always made it our of their group.
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26/02/2021 13:03:38 0 10
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South Africa will win the World Cup again.
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26/02/2021 13:10:37 2 1
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I see you have a crystal ball. What will be the lottery numbers this weekend. Should be easy seeing as you can tell the future in 2 and a half years time.
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26/02/2021 13:10:39 26 2
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First off, weird the BBC gives us a HYS on games not happening for 2 years, but nothing for games happening tomorrow.

Secondly there's some weird things in these schedules. Looking at England they play with a 6 day turn around against America 2, after playing Japan on the 17 Sept, but then have 2 weeks off until they play Oceania 1. Wales have a similar gap in them, Ireland also have a 2 week gap
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26/02/2021 13:13:15 0 18
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Not weird, it’s the biggest thing in the sport of rugby. Club rugby don’t really come anywhere near.
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26/02/2021 13:15:07 1 5
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Not really. Groups have 5 teams so one weekend teams will have a week off.
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
bbc
Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 13:10:48 4 10
bbc
Let's hope Scotland not awarded 28-0 win. That would be a travesty.
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26/02/2021 13:22:51 0 2
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I'm guessing that would have to be in the tournament rules prior to the start of the competition.

You could argue that this is different to last year's situation, I suppose, given that last year it was governments cancelling the matches rather than unions. But then really that's more of an argument for the match to go ahead, rather than be forfeited.
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26/02/2021 13:02:05 3 7
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The Welsh will be favourites
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26/02/2021 13:11:15 6 2
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You have got in quite early for the most asinine comment in this HYS.
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26/02/2021 13:10:39 26 2
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First off, weird the BBC gives us a HYS on games not happening for 2 years, but nothing for games happening tomorrow.

Secondly there's some weird things in these schedules. Looking at England they play with a 6 day turn around against America 2, after playing Japan on the 17 Sept, but then have 2 weeks off until they play Oceania 1. Wales have a similar gap in them, Ireland also have a 2 week gap
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26/02/2021 13:13:15 0 18
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Not weird, it’s the biggest thing in the sport of rugby. Club rugby don’t really come anywhere near.
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26/02/2021 13:17:59 9 1
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I was referring to the Six Nations games that are happening tomorrow. Arguably the biggest international rugby tournament happening this year.

England v Wales is normally worth a comment, certainly discussion to be had around Jones' team selection, plus there's a little bit of chat to be had around the France v Scotland postponement
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26/02/2021 14:08:55 0 3
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I love club rugby but in terms of general popularity and coverage the World Cup beats it hands down and it’s no use pretending otherwise. That’s why the World Cup fixtures getting press and tomorrow’s club games are not.
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26/02/2021 13:07:37 21 1
bbc
I've never understood why the Rugby Union World Cup does their draw and fixtures so far in advance. Every other sport seems to manage just fine with a six-month preparation.

Anyone know?
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26/02/2021 13:14:10 7 4
bbc
It's supposed to allow the organisers to better prepare. Depending on who's playing where could potentially require some fairly hefty infrastructure arrangements.

For example if France were playing England in a New Zealand world cup, having that in somewhere like Invercargill could potentially overload the local amenities.

Load of nonsense if you ask me.
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26/02/2021 15:12:29 0 1
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Especially when Ireland were denied a World Cup because of infrastructure concerns.
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26/02/2021 13:10:39 26 2
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First off, weird the BBC gives us a HYS on games not happening for 2 years, but nothing for games happening tomorrow.

Secondly there's some weird things in these schedules. Looking at England they play with a 6 day turn around against America 2, after playing Japan on the 17 Sept, but then have 2 weeks off until they play Oceania 1. Wales have a similar gap in them, Ireland also have a 2 week gap
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26/02/2021 13:15:07 1 5
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Not really. Groups have 5 teams so one weekend teams will have a week off.
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26/02/2021 13:29:02 3 1
bbc
They had 5 teams in a group in the last world cup as well, no side had as long as 2 weeks off, same in 2015, 2011, 2007 or 2003.

So the last 5 world cups all with 5 teams to a group, have never had a side have a 2 week gap between games. So yep, bit weird.
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26/02/2021 13:16:58 34 6
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What other sport draws its team for the World Cup 2 years before it starts? It's actually so ridiculous and unfair..
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26/02/2021 13:58:29 10 12
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"unfair"??? Shirley it is the same for everybody? A bit variant from the norm maybe, but I fail to see how giving all the sides the same, huge chance to organise is "ridiculous".
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26/02/2021 13:13:15 0 18
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Not weird, it’s the biggest thing in the sport of rugby. Club rugby don’t really come anywhere near.
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26/02/2021 13:17:59 9 1
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I was referring to the Six Nations games that are happening tomorrow. Arguably the biggest international rugby tournament happening this year.

England v Wales is normally worth a comment, certainly discussion to be had around Jones' team selection, plus there's a little bit of chat to be had around the France v Scotland postponement
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26/02/2021 13:23:31 5 2
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My first post was about this and got removed as off topic!
Guess we can only discuss Scotland v SA in RWC...
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26/02/2021 16:04:48 2 2
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I'm glad there is no HYS on that - the bitching and moaning and sniping is depressing as a rugby fan for over 40 years - it's getting more like football between fans every day - I've noticed there's been a lot less HYS recently and that's a good thing to me.
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26/02/2021 13:07:55 4 21
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Easy game for Scotland apparently. I mean according to their fans they thrashed England recently and again according to their fans England bottled it against SA in RWC final.
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Jesus

U r deluded
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26/02/2021 13:10:36 1 2
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All the NH teams have failed to get out their group at least once, but the problem is caused by World Rugby seeding groups over 3 years before the event.
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26/02/2021 13:21:16 4 1
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Actually France have always made it our of their group.
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26/02/2021 13:10:48 4 10
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Let's hope Scotland not awarded 28-0 win. That would be a travesty.
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26/02/2021 13:22:51 0 2
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I'm guessing that would have to be in the tournament rules prior to the start of the competition.

You could argue that this is different to last year's situation, I suppose, given that last year it was governments cancelling the matches rather than unions. But then really that's more of an argument for the match to go ahead, rather than be forfeited.
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26/02/2021 13:17:59 9 1
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I was referring to the Six Nations games that are happening tomorrow. Arguably the biggest international rugby tournament happening this year.

England v Wales is normally worth a comment, certainly discussion to be had around Jones' team selection, plus there's a little bit of chat to be had around the France v Scotland postponement
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26/02/2021 13:23:31 5 2
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My first post was about this and got removed as off topic!
Guess we can only discuss Scotland v SA in RWC...
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26/02/2021 13:15:07 1 5
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Not really. Groups have 5 teams so one weekend teams will have a week off.
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26/02/2021 13:29:02 3 1
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They had 5 teams in a group in the last world cup as well, no side had as long as 2 weeks off, same in 2015, 2011, 2007 or 2003.

So the last 5 world cups all with 5 teams to a group, have never had a side have a 2 week gap between games. So yep, bit weird.
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26/02/2021 14:28:09 2 1
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It’s a byproduct of extending the tournament out by a week to guarantee we don’t have a repeat of teams (like Fiji) getting a 4 day turnaround that results in shock results ( Uruguay beating Fiji ). All credit to Uruguay for that game but for player welfare and results not being influenced by lack of recovery time the extra week is a big benefit to all involved.
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26/02/2021 13:32:02 9 2
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What a joke from the organisers. Draw 3 years in advance and fixtures 2 and a half years in advance.
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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26/02/2021 13:33:23 1 5
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Will France have eradicated Covid by then?
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26/02/2021 13:34:24 15 3
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Whoever can manage to get the fewest Red Cards will win.
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26/02/2021 19:16:20 2 11
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And the conspiracy at the top of world rugby will ensure that larger penalties are dealt out to the smaller nations, e.g., the O'Mahony/Fagerson cases
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26/02/2021 13:41:55 5 8
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You have to remember World Rugby is a JOKE just lookout what they have done or not done enough of in the game!
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26/02/2021 13:32:02 9 2
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What a joke from the organisers. Draw 3 years in advance and fixtures 2 and a half years in advance.
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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26/02/2021 14:05:42 8 4
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Crystal ball time again is it Steve d? Could you give me the winning lottery for tomorrow please! So how do you know wales won't make the final or win it! Or is this you trolling as usual under the pretence of being a rugby fan
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26/02/2021 14:14:50 5 1
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Most people here predicted Wales were wooden spoon candidates in this 6N, and they could win the Triple Crown tomorrow. So, who knows what will happen 2 1/2 years down the line.
I see you have started. Give us all a rest your becoming a bore. Removed
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26/02/2021 14:38:34 3 3
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unnecessary Steve...most of the time you post sensible comments...this is just antagonistic and somewhat troll like....you are better than that
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26/02/2021 17:22:48 3 1
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The master Soothsayer.
Who knows what will happen in 2.5 years ? If you do can you let us in on the lottery results.
I see l have had few posts removed after having the temerity to criticise your posts hmm.
Tomorrow England will start favourites but l think it will be close. In the backs Wales have an edge. If Wales get parity up front we can win.
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26/02/2021 13:46:17 13 1
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Let's hope the Pacific nations teams get the support needed leading up to and during the world cup in order for them to field the strongest possible teams.
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26/02/2021 13:52:30 8 3
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Unlike a lot of comments I like this and can now plan for the 2023 World Cup far in advance. The difference in draws/ranking isn't going to make a difference to the tournament. As demonstrated last World Cup, England beat the best team to get to the final, only to lose to the 2nd best team!
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26/02/2021 15:24:18 6 5
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I suppose the difference is you will be one of the fans heading over and enjoying some of the matches, the people moaning are more likely to be keyboard warriors who wouldn't know what the inside of a rugby stadium looked like.
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
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Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 13:58:16 0 2
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I'm glad it's off. A Scottish victory would've been hollow.

Though I wonder if potentially the date it's played is one where fans are allowed back into stadiums and if that's the case, whether it should be allowed, since all other 6N games haven't had a crowd.
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26/02/2021 14:08:10 0 9
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Scotland will be awarded a 0-0 win
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26/02/2021 13:16:58 34 6
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What other sport draws its team for the World Cup 2 years before it starts? It's actually so ridiculous and unfair..
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26/02/2021 13:58:29 10 12
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"unfair"??? Shirley it is the same for everybody? A bit variant from the norm maybe, but I fail to see how giving all the sides the same, huge chance to organise is "ridiculous".
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26/02/2021 14:01:28 11 1
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Don't call me Shirley...
are you stupid or just ignorant. have you ever heard of rankings, which change over time, and how the timing of the draw then influences the rankings. Removed
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26/02/2021 13:59:47 1 1
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Och well that's our WC dream over!
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26/02/2021 13:58:29 10 12
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"unfair"??? Shirley it is the same for everybody? A bit variant from the norm maybe, but I fail to see how giving all the sides the same, huge chance to organise is "ridiculous".
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26/02/2021 14:01:28 11 1
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Don't call me Shirley...
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26/02/2021 14:02:59 8 7
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France Vs All Blacks opening game and final game......................
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26/02/2021 14:32:11 0 2
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I think you may well be right.
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26/02/2021 14:58:15 0 1
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Not a bad shout.
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26/02/2021 19:18:17 0 2
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The whole schedule is structured to give that the best possible chance.
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26/02/2021 13:03:38 0 10
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South Africa will win the World Cup again.
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26/02/2021 14:03:39 1 1
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Ah clever, see what you did; not mentioned which year.
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26/02/2021 14:03:51 8 3
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The day before Wales v England in Cardiff, all I've been thinking about this week is the schedule for a competition just two years away.
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26/02/2021 14:57:43 1 3
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2 and a half year away, but the journos need to get their expense scams planned early. It's the only reason they keep bigging up the out-of-date amateur dinosaur of the lions tour that used to have some relevance before the Southern lot started to turn up here every Autumn for the extra cash.
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26/02/2021 21:27:23 1 1
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Yep, total bull. I’d rather talk about that Wyndbag AWJ and his drama queen behaviour!
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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26/02/2021 14:05:42 8 4
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Crystal ball time again is it Steve d? Could you give me the winning lottery for tomorrow please! So how do you know wales won't make the final or win it! Or is this you trolling as usual under the pretence of being a rugby fan
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26/02/2021 14:30:49 2 4
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He deserves it, had way too many pops at England.
As for tomorrow, I fear a Welsh win.
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26/02/2021 17:27:55 2 1
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Careful Blue l have just had 2 posts removed for daring to criticise a certain poster.
It could well be a cracker tomorrow, if we get some ball we can do real damage.
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26/02/2021 13:58:16 0 2
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I'm glad it's off. A Scottish victory would've been hollow.

Though I wonder if potentially the date it's played is one where fans are allowed back into stadiums and if that's the case, whether it should be allowed, since all other 6N games haven't had a crowd.
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26/02/2021 14:08:10 0 9
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Scotland will be awarded a 0-0 win
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26/02/2021 14:15:40 5 1
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28-0 win if France broke Covid rules!
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26/02/2021 13:13:15 0 18
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Not weird, it’s the biggest thing in the sport of rugby. Club rugby don’t really come anywhere near.
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26/02/2021 14:08:55 0 3
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I love club rugby but in terms of general popularity and coverage the World Cup beats it hands down and it’s no use pretending otherwise. That’s why the World Cup fixtures getting press and tomorrow’s club games are not.
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26/02/2021 14:13:02 1 8
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When's the footy on?
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26/02/2021 14:17:54 5 2
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All the time!
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26/02/2021 14:52:59 2 1
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Who cares?
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26/02/2021 14:14:09 2 4
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England warm balls to get ranked minnows Japan
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26/02/2021 14:16:38 7 2
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Would that be the Japan that knocked Scotland out?
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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26/02/2021 14:14:50 5 1
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Most people here predicted Wales were wooden spoon candidates in this 6N, and they could win the Triple Crown tomorrow. So, who knows what will happen 2 1/2 years down the line.
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26/02/2021 14:08:10 0 9
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Scotland will be awarded a 0-0 win
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26/02/2021 14:15:40 5 1
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28-0 win if France broke Covid rules!
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26/02/2021 14:18:30 0 1
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That is not in the tournament regs
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26/02/2021 14:14:09 2 4
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England warm balls to get ranked minnows Japan
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26/02/2021 14:16:38 7 2
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Would that be the Japan that knocked Scotland out?
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26/02/2021 14:17:34 47 2
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I just wish that once the groups have played we then have a Bowl competition for the 3rd & 4th placed teams and a Plate competition for the 5th placed teams. This would give the smaller nations a reason for turning up beyond getting spanked by the tier one nations. It is also common practise in rugby cup competitions.
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26/02/2021 14:41:58 4 2
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Nice idea in principal but economics wouldn’t stack up for tournament organizers, the boards of smaller nations or players involved.
With small crowds & minimal TV revenue it would be a substantial cost impacting both tournament organizers &/or the already poverty ridden T2 unions.

Many players from “minnows” are amateurs , expecting them to go without pay an extra 3 weeks is unrealistic.
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26/02/2021 14:43:04 0 3
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Still can’t find it!
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26/02/2021 14:43:35 3 2
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I think that is an excellent idea
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26/02/2021 16:30:50 0 5
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Generally there are 9 rugby teams playing to get through for 8 quarter finals places (I guess you could expand it to 10 with Japan now). Which would leave 1-2 "big" sides left for the bowl. I don't think there's much doubt that in 2019 Scotland or Argentina would have won the bowl, in 2015 England would have walked it, and it would be more of an embarrassment for them to have had to play in it.
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26/02/2021 18:45:28 2 1
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Could be done by having double headers. ie, a bowl QF before each main QF. Winners of this could perhaps be guaranteed a spot at the next tournament alongwith the quarterfinalists?
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26/02/2021 14:17:40 3 4
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The game tomorrow afternoon should be a humdinger. Wales have their best side so far, and probably have the edge in the backs where they have some real quality. England have a bit to prove and even their best may not be good enough this time. Keeping 15 players on the pitch, which neither of Wales' previous opponents could do, will of course help
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26/02/2021 14:23:09 7 1
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can see Wales beating us, do not think Wales are great but as you say thier backs are full of running and well ours are simply not. Youngs slow passes to Ford who passes to Farrell who passes to slade who is not that quick who has Daly who has lost a yard of pace who passes to Watson who is well out of form. Or we go back to kicking the ball away. Just painful. Farrell and Youngs needto bedropped.
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26/02/2021 14:13:02 1 8
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When's the footy on?
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26/02/2021 14:17:54 5 2
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All the time!
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26/02/2021 14:43:22 0 2
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It must be somewhere!
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26/02/2021 14:18:09 4 2
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Glad to see some common sense to extend the tournament so it’s a minimum of 6 days between games & expand squads to 33. Both measures are a huge help to player welfare and increase the fairness of the tournament.
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26/02/2021 14:33:04 0 3
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The problem is that for 6n they can lean on the precedent that past fixtures have been rearranged
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26/02/2021 16:51:32 0 1
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Problem is you then get huge gaps in between games, some sides have 2 weeks off in the group stages. You can say good for player welfare, but there will be complaints from sides in the quarter finals about who got their 2 week rest just before their final game, and who has had to play on the trot...
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26/02/2021 14:15:40 5 1
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28-0 win if France broke Covid rules!
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26/02/2021 14:18:30 0 1
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That is not in the tournament regs
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26/02/2021 14:23:43 3 2
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Was reported this morning!
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26/02/2021 14:17:40 3 4
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The game tomorrow afternoon should be a humdinger. Wales have their best side so far, and probably have the edge in the backs where they have some real quality. England have a bit to prove and even their best may not be good enough this time. Keeping 15 players on the pitch, which neither of Wales' previous opponents could do, will of course help
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26/02/2021 14:23:09 7 1
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can see Wales beating us, do not think Wales are great but as you say thier backs are full of running and well ours are simply not. Youngs slow passes to Ford who passes to Farrell who passes to slade who is not that quick who has Daly who has lost a yard of pace who passes to Watson who is well out of form. Or we go back to kicking the ball away. Just painful. Farrell and Youngs needto bedropped.
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26/02/2021 14:47:08 0 1
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Sorry, "Youngs passes...." did I miss it?
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26/02/2021 14:48:57 2 1
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I agree in part but not about Watson being out of form. I assume you missed Italy game!
Youngs, Daley, Billy, Farrell all need replacing - for now.
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26/02/2021 14:18:30 0 1
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That is not in the tournament regs
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26/02/2021 14:23:43 3 2
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Was reported this morning!
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26/02/2021 14:46:52 0 3
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The word used was could not will
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26/02/2021 14:25:34 3 8
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I see the France v Scotland game has been called off tomorrow. Teams should really decide if they are in or out. If they cant field a team they forfeit the game.
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26/02/2021 14:31:52 5 3
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It"s not about the ability to field a team. It down to the Covid risk!!!
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26/02/2021 14:26:34 8 8
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England fan here. I would bet on Wales winning. Our backs are lost for ideas and are lacking in form. We should have used this as a platform for the next rwc. Jones statement this team has gone as far as it can. So what does he do, play the same tired players who have always fallen at the final hurdle. My question why the clique of Youngs, Ford, Farrell is allowed? It's obvious England has issues
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26/02/2021 14:37:38 1 2
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Maybe but England might just decide to play 10 man rugby. Stick it up the jumper - all becomes a wrestling match
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26/02/2021 14:38:36 0 2
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Correct. Youngs at 9? Daley 15? Billy 8?
Same old same old. I have always said it's all about winning but really this is getting too much. I think Wales are favourites tomorrow but I of course want England to win but if they do will it be yet more papering over cracks? Where is the young blood?
Just listened to Rugby podcast with Dawson, Jones etc and they saying exactly same thing.
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26/02/2021 16:03:18 2 3
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Jones's selection of Martin on the bench is the last straw for me.
That is nothing more than a headline grabbing "look at me" selection. It makes no sense and EJ knows it. I wish the lad well, but he should be nowhere near an England cap.
EJ's ignoring of Simmonds, Dombrant and Ewers is ridiculous.
Daly, Farrell, Youngs.Why?
I'll still be roaring for England but it's time, imo, for EJ to go.
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26/02/2021 13:29:02 3 1
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They had 5 teams in a group in the last world cup as well, no side had as long as 2 weeks off, same in 2015, 2011, 2007 or 2003.

So the last 5 world cups all with 5 teams to a group, have never had a side have a 2 week gap between games. So yep, bit weird.
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26/02/2021 14:28:09 2 1
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It’s a byproduct of extending the tournament out by a week to guarantee we don’t have a repeat of teams (like Fiji) getting a 4 day turnaround that results in shock results ( Uruguay beating Fiji ). All credit to Uruguay for that game but for player welfare and results not being influenced by lack of recovery time the extra week is a big benefit to all involved.
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26/02/2021 14:05:42 8 4
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Crystal ball time again is it Steve d? Could you give me the winning lottery for tomorrow please! So how do you know wales won't make the final or win it! Or is this you trolling as usual under the pretence of being a rugby fan
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26/02/2021 14:30:49 2 4
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He deserves it, had way too many pops at England.
As for tomorrow, I fear a Welsh win.
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26/02/2021 14:25:34 3 8
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I see the France v Scotland game has been called off tomorrow. Teams should really decide if they are in or out. If they cant field a team they forfeit the game.
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26/02/2021 14:31:52 5 3
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It"s not about the ability to field a team. It down to the Covid risk!!!
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26/02/2021 14:44:33 0 1
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No, called off Sunday.
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26/02/2021 16:46:40 1 1
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Indeed, it's more about the chance of spreading it to Scotland, who would then have to isolate and possibly spread it to Ireland, who could then possibly spread it to England.

The message on Wednesday was "OK France have had an outbreak but have the spread under control" then had another player announce on Thursday so it looks like it wasn't.
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26/02/2021 17:39:56 1 2
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Fine. If you refuse to send a team out, you forfeit the game.
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26/02/2021 14:02:59 8 7
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France Vs All Blacks opening game and final game......................
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26/02/2021 14:32:11 0 2
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I think you may well be right.
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26/02/2021 17:06:56 0 1
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When the draw was done for Japan nobody was predicting an England v SA final.
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26/02/2021 14:18:09 4 2
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Glad to see some common sense to extend the tournament so it’s a minimum of 6 days between games & expand squads to 33. Both measures are a huge help to player welfare and increase the fairness of the tournament.
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26/02/2021 14:33:04 0 3
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The problem is that for 6n they can lean on the precedent that past fixtures have been rearranged
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26/02/2021 15:04:08 1 1
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??
Are you talking about the 2023 rugby World Cup or something else ?

I don’t think you’ve understood my post is referring to the 2023 rugby World Cup being extended and nothing to do with the 6N.
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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I see you have started. Give us all a rest your becoming a bore. Removed
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26/02/2021 14:45:51 0 4
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If you actually read comments with your blinkers off you'll see I favour Wales for tomorrow.
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26/02/2021 14:30:49 2 4
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He deserves it, had way too many pops at England.
As for tomorrow, I fear a Welsh win.
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Of course you never have a pop at Wales do you hypocrite Removed
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26/02/2021 14:26:34 8 8
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England fan here. I would bet on Wales winning. Our backs are lost for ideas and are lacking in form. We should have used this as a platform for the next rwc. Jones statement this team has gone as far as it can. So what does he do, play the same tired players who have always fallen at the final hurdle. My question why the clique of Youngs, Ford, Farrell is allowed? It's obvious England has issues
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26/02/2021 14:37:38 1 2
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Maybe but England might just decide to play 10 man rugby. Stick it up the jumper - all becomes a wrestling match
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26/02/2021 15:25:27 2 2
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I agree. 6 forwards on England's bench. Don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work out their game plan. Grunt grunt grunt..kick.
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26/02/2021 16:51:32 1 1
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What like they did against the All Blacks,18 months ago.
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26/02/2021 22:16:03 0 1
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No change then! I cannot believe a brilliant innovative coach like EJ will not adapt. he he he.
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26/02/2021 14:38:06 11 1
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Hope Beaumont and his gang share the money out with huge emphasis promoting the so called little nations who have had to live on scraps. A fully funded functional rugby structure in nations like Russia, Germany, Brazil, Chile, Samoa, Zimbabwe, Mexico would only be good for the game. Way too much of the cream goes to the same old, same old !
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26/02/2021 14:46:48 1 2
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All for developing the game in other countries but you have to start by building participation at an amateur level.
Not sure what a fully funded rugby structure looks like but not sure that's affordable in the current environment
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26/02/2021 15:55:25 2 1
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Agree with what you are saying, but that's World Rugby as an organisation summed up. If you are not a 6N team or Rugby championship side then you are like second class citizens. Thats why I believe in promotion/relegation in six nations, it would force Italy to improve and make teams like Russia, Spain and Portugal take the sport more seriously if there was a chance of playing at the highest level
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27/02/2021 11:35:50 0 1
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Considering that even the richest unions are hemorrhaging money at the moment, now may not be the time to invest in long term development projects.

You can't build a house without strong foundations and if the tier 1/2 unions start going bankrupt, or having to cut funding to their grass roots games, then that's only going to be bad for the sport.

And there is real danger of that happening.
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26/02/2021 13:07:55 4 21
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Easy game for Scotland apparently. I mean according to their fans they thrashed England recently and again according to their fans England bottled it against SA in RWC final.
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26/02/2021 14:38:23 2 1
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Boring!!
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26/02/2021 15:01:04 1 2
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I don't think Scotland are boring at all, I think thy are playing more exciting rugby than England are at the moment.

Or were you referring to something else?
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26/02/2021 14:38:33 5 7
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Will it be 3 from 3? Which England player will get red carded so Wales so can win?
Farrell finally?
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26/02/2021 14:45:07 7 4
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Could be, or maybe Liam Williams gets another one?
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26/02/2021 15:02:51 3 2
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I'm going for two reds each.
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26/02/2021 15:11:09 1 5
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Shame Genge isn’t starting, he’d be my target for a red, easy to wind up and nowhere near as good a player as he thinks he is
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26/02/2021 16:48:50 1 2
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Any one of them really. They're all Red Cards in the making - on stand-by and ready to go. It just comes so naturally to them these days.
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26/02/2021 13:43:42 11 14
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You'll be fine, Wales won't get to final let alone actually win it.
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26/02/2021 14:38:34 3 3
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unnecessary Steve...most of the time you post sensible comments...this is just antagonistic and somewhat troll like....you are better than that
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26/02/2021 14:43:00 3 11
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Yep guilty as charged but can't stand the double standards. Everyone knows the dreadful trolling against Eng ALL the time but if one of us has the temerity to answer back all hell breaks loose.
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26/02/2021 14:26:34 8 8
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England fan here. I would bet on Wales winning. Our backs are lost for ideas and are lacking in form. We should have used this as a platform for the next rwc. Jones statement this team has gone as far as it can. So what does he do, play the same tired players who have always fallen at the final hurdle. My question why the clique of Youngs, Ford, Farrell is allowed? It's obvious England has issues
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26/02/2021 14:38:36 0 2
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Correct. Youngs at 9? Daley 15? Billy 8?
Same old same old. I have always said it's all about winning but really this is getting too much. I think Wales are favourites tomorrow but I of course want England to win but if they do will it be yet more papering over cracks? Where is the young blood?
Just listened to Rugby podcast with Dawson, Jones etc and they saying exactly same thing.
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26/02/2021 14:17:34 47 2
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I just wish that once the groups have played we then have a Bowl competition for the 3rd & 4th placed teams and a Plate competition for the 5th placed teams. This would give the smaller nations a reason for turning up beyond getting spanked by the tier one nations. It is also common practise in rugby cup competitions.
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26/02/2021 14:41:58 4 2
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Nice idea in principal but economics wouldn’t stack up for tournament organizers, the boards of smaller nations or players involved.
With small crowds & minimal TV revenue it would be a substantial cost impacting both tournament organizers &/or the already poverty ridden T2 unions.

Many players from “minnows” are amateurs , expecting them to go without pay an extra 3 weeks is unrealistic.
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26/02/2021 14:47:29 3 1
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Bowl final could be Japan V Fiji and the Plate USA V Russia...
I think there would be a huge TV audience for that!
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26/02/2021 15:05:18 5 1
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Ask the players. I think they'd jump at the chance to represent their country as often as possible.
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26/02/2021 14:38:34 3 3
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unnecessary Steve...most of the time you post sensible comments...this is just antagonistic and somewhat troll like....you are better than that
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26/02/2021 14:43:00 3 11
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Yep guilty as charged but can't stand the double standards. Everyone knows the dreadful trolling against Eng ALL the time but if one of us has the temerity to answer back all hell breaks loose.
Trouble is your no better than the people you rail against Removed
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26/02/2021 14:17:34 47 2
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I just wish that once the groups have played we then have a Bowl competition for the 3rd & 4th placed teams and a Plate competition for the 5th placed teams. This would give the smaller nations a reason for turning up beyond getting spanked by the tier one nations. It is also common practise in rugby cup competitions.
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26/02/2021 14:43:04 0 3
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Still can’t find it!
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26/02/2021 14:17:54 5 2
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All the time!
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26/02/2021 14:43:22 0 2
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It must be somewhere!
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26/02/2021 14:17:34 47 2
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I just wish that once the groups have played we then have a Bowl competition for the 3rd & 4th placed teams and a Plate competition for the 5th placed teams. This would give the smaller nations a reason for turning up beyond getting spanked by the tier one nations. It is also common practise in rugby cup competitions.
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26/02/2021 14:43:35 3 2
bbc
I think that is an excellent idea
Of course you never have a pop at Wales do you hypocrite Removed
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26/02/2021 14:31:52 5 3
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It"s not about the ability to field a team. It down to the Covid risk!!!
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26/02/2021 14:44:33 0 1
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No, called off Sunday.
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26/02/2021 14:38:33 5 7
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Will it be 3 from 3? Which England player will get red carded so Wales so can win?
Farrell finally?
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26/02/2021 14:45:07 7 4
bbc
Could be, or maybe Liam Williams gets another one?
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26/02/2021 15:11:54 3 1
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Liam Williams deserved his red a few weeks ago, filthy cheap shot on SLH
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26/02/2021 16:53:50 0 1
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Yes, I also feel he's a red card in waiting. I thought he'd got that out of his system over the last couple of years but it seems to be back again.
I see you have started. Give us all a rest your becoming a bore. Removed
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26/02/2021 14:45:51 0 4
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If you actually read comments with your blinkers off you'll see I favour Wales for tomorrow.
Your a little bit of a hypocrite. You never fail to have a pop at Wales either ! Your not rebelling against the problem. Your part of it!! Removed
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26/02/2021 14:38:06 11 1
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Hope Beaumont and his gang share the money out with huge emphasis promoting the so called little nations who have had to live on scraps. A fully funded functional rugby structure in nations like Russia, Germany, Brazil, Chile, Samoa, Zimbabwe, Mexico would only be good for the game. Way too much of the cream goes to the same old, same old !
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26/02/2021 14:46:48 1 2
bbc
All for developing the game in other countries but you have to start by building participation at an amateur level.
Not sure what a fully funded rugby structure looks like but not sure that's affordable in the current environment
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26/02/2021 20:08:35 1 1
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Agreed that the amateur level should be encouraged, but facilities and the like need to either be constructed or maintained, so finance is still required to be given to developing nations.
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26/02/2021 14:23:43 3 2
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Was reported this morning!
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26/02/2021 14:46:52 0 3
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The word used was could not will
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26/02/2021 14:23:09 7 1
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can see Wales beating us, do not think Wales are great but as you say thier backs are full of running and well ours are simply not. Youngs slow passes to Ford who passes to Farrell who passes to slade who is not that quick who has Daly who has lost a yard of pace who passes to Watson who is well out of form. Or we go back to kicking the ball away. Just painful. Farrell and Youngs needto bedropped.
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26/02/2021 14:47:08 0 1
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Sorry, "Youngs passes...." did I miss it?
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26/02/2021 14:47:10 1 1
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The Old Toulouse Reverse Tour
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26/02/2021 14:41:58 4 2
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Nice idea in principal but economics wouldn’t stack up for tournament organizers, the boards of smaller nations or players involved.
With small crowds & minimal TV revenue it would be a substantial cost impacting both tournament organizers &/or the already poverty ridden T2 unions.

Many players from “minnows” are amateurs , expecting them to go without pay an extra 3 weeks is unrealistic.
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26/02/2021 14:47:29 3 1
bbc
Bowl final could be Japan V Fiji and the Plate USA V Russia...
I think there would be a huge TV audience for that!
It would also be nice if people could apologise for calling someone a racist when they have no evidence whatsoever, but I suppose the WOKE society that we are currently suffering from in U.K. think they can get away with it!!! Removed
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26/02/2021 14:23:09 7 1
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can see Wales beating us, do not think Wales are great but as you say thier backs are full of running and well ours are simply not. Youngs slow passes to Ford who passes to Farrell who passes to slade who is not that quick who has Daly who has lost a yard of pace who passes to Watson who is well out of form. Or we go back to kicking the ball away. Just painful. Farrell and Youngs needto bedropped.
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26/02/2021 14:48:57 2 1
bbc
I agree in part but not about Watson being out of form. I assume you missed Italy game!
Youngs, Daley, Billy, Farrell all need replacing - for now.
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26/02/2021 19:20:53 0 1
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@Steve D: I was going to say the same thing, Watson's looked sharp the last couple of games. It would be great to see LRZ, Adams, North, Watson and May get some ball and good runs during the game.
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26/02/2021 14:13:02 1 8
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When's the footy on?
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26/02/2021 14:52:59 2 1
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Who cares?
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26/02/2021 14:53:16 6 1
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That's going to be one hell of an opening match in Paris, it would not be surprising if that was also the final. Either way both the French and the Kiwis will be determined to win Pool A to probably avoid the Boks.
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26/02/2021 14:58:15 5 3
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Yep but will SA be the same team as 2019? NZ ALWAYS strong anytime, be it RWC or not. Others teams need to get their peaking bang on.
France definitely building very nicely, as are a couple other teams like Scotland but they don't have anything like depth of talent that NZ do.
France NZ final is distinct possibility but we all know so much change change before then.
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26/02/2021 13:07:37 21 1
bbc
I've never understood why the Rugby Union World Cup does their draw and fixtures so far in advance. Every other sport seems to manage just fine with a six-month preparation.

Anyone know?
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26/02/2021 14:55:34 0 2
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With Lions tours in between RWCs , potentially, impacting the seedings, pretty much the only time a non-impacted seeding can be done is the year before a lions tour.

As far as the general logistics are concerned, in most countries the availability of rugby grounds with sufficient infrastructure is very limited, requiring a longer lead time.

Don’t see a downside to more time to prepare.
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26/02/2021 14:47:29 3 1
bbc
Bowl final could be Japan V Fiji and the Plate USA V Russia...
I think there would be a huge TV audience for that!
It would also be nice if people could apologise for calling someone a racist when they have no evidence whatsoever, but I suppose the WOKE society that we are currently suffering from in U.K. think they can get away with it!!! Removed
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26/02/2021 14:03:51 8 3
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The day before Wales v England in Cardiff, all I've been thinking about this week is the schedule for a competition just two years away.
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26/02/2021 14:57:43 1 3
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2 and a half year away, but the journos need to get their expense scams planned early. It's the only reason they keep bigging up the out-of-date amateur dinosaur of the lions tour that used to have some relevance before the Southern lot started to turn up here every Autumn for the extra cash.
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26/02/2021 14:53:16 6 1
bbc
That's going to be one hell of an opening match in Paris, it would not be surprising if that was also the final. Either way both the French and the Kiwis will be determined to win Pool A to probably avoid the Boks.
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26/02/2021 14:58:15 5 3
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Yep but will SA be the same team as 2019? NZ ALWAYS strong anytime, be it RWC or not. Others teams need to get their peaking bang on.
France definitely building very nicely, as are a couple other teams like Scotland but they don't have anything like depth of talent that NZ do.
France NZ final is distinct possibility but we all know so much change change before then.
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26/02/2021 17:10:19 0 1
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If SA get to the final, the form says they will win. Every time theyre in the final they take the trophy home. Not even NZ can make that claim.
Consistency
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26/02/2021 14:02:59 8 7
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France Vs All Blacks opening game and final game......................
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26/02/2021 14:58:15 0 1
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Not a bad shout.
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26/02/2021 14:38:23 2 1
bbc
Boring!!
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26/02/2021 15:01:04 1 2
bbc
I don't think Scotland are boring at all, I think thy are playing more exciting rugby than England are at the moment.

Or were you referring to something else?
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26/02/2021 15:02:33 2 5
bbc
Wonder what the rules on contact will be by the time this comes around? Down to tag rugby by then?
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26/02/2021 15:09:06 1 5
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Red card for having socks rolled down.
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26/02/2021 15:09:44 3 2
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I haven’t got a problem with the flurry of cards in 6 nations or rugby premiership......

...the players have been told ‘head is red’..... it’s that simple, hit someone in the head and your off....

Nothing wrong with hard rugby, brutal collisions, just aim lower
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26/02/2021 19:40:37 0 2
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Should suit Daly then.
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26/02/2021 14:38:33 5 7
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Will it be 3 from 3? Which England player will get red carded so Wales so can win?
Farrell finally?
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26/02/2021 15:02:51 3 2
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I'm going for two reds each.
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26/02/2021 13:01:20 3 21
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Lets see if Scotland can get out of their group this time.

I see the Scotland vs France game is off, as i predicted, some serious humble pie from those who insisted i was wrong.
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26/02/2021 15:02:52 2 2
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It is unfortunate that Scotland are playing the Boks instead of England!
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26/02/2021 14:33:04 0 3
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The problem is that for 6n they can lean on the precedent that past fixtures have been rearranged
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26/02/2021 15:04:08 1 1
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??
Are you talking about the 2023 rugby World Cup or something else ?

I don’t think you’ve understood my post is referring to the 2023 rugby World Cup being extended and nothing to do with the 6N.
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26/02/2021 14:41:58 4 2
bbc
Nice idea in principal but economics wouldn’t stack up for tournament organizers, the boards of smaller nations or players involved.
With small crowds & minimal TV revenue it would be a substantial cost impacting both tournament organizers &/or the already poverty ridden T2 unions.

Many players from “minnows” are amateurs , expecting them to go without pay an extra 3 weeks is unrealistic.
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26/02/2021 15:05:18 5 1
bbc
Ask the players. I think they'd jump at the chance to represent their country as often as possible.
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26/02/2021 15:35:06 0 3
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If they’re paid for it , you could be correct.

However as it’s likely the tournament, home union or regular employers wouldn’t be able to afford it AND that players would have already made substantial sacrifices to achieve fitness levels needed to compete , the reality is few players will be willing or able to take the financial hit to play in what is, by definition a 2nd rate competition.
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26/02/2021 15:07:36 1 6
bbc
RWC is a 2 horse race between All Blacks and France...

...unless AB’s can find a decent front 5 then its France for me, too much power and now well organised....
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26/02/2021 17:08:13 4 2
bbc
Really? So SA - 3 times RWC winners - including being holders arent in with a shout? Er.......okaaaaaay!
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26/02/2021 17:58:39 0 1
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Still to be convinced by France, playing well atm but likely to implode at any minute, hope they do go well at the WC but cant see them making the final! Yes I know it's a long way off! And only time will tell!
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26/02/2021 15:02:33 2 5
bbc
Wonder what the rules on contact will be by the time this comes around? Down to tag rugby by then?
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26/02/2021 15:09:06 1 5
bbc
Red card for having socks rolled down.
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26/02/2021 20:00:22 1 1
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Aye, I can remember when you could give the lad on t'wrong side of ruck, a reet good shoeing, knock a props front teeth out in t'maul and still buy him a pint in t'bar after. You try telling kids of today, etc etc, ad nauseam