Coronavirus levels 'burning quite hot' in some of UK
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Infection rates are declining overall, but some regions are seeing a rise in cases.
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19 in Grampian today. A huge region with a population of over 500k. But then we'll still keep hiding behind the curtains and completely kill the economy.
Come out of lockdown and next week that 19 will be 40, then 80, then 160 and by Easter 1000's. Also that 19 is the number reported and you can easily triple it or more for actual cases and 19 new cases in a day 2 weeks of infectivity - 266 active cases at absolute minimum.
Only 19 new reported cases in a day is a good thing - but we are still not out of the woods.
Only 19 new reported cases in a day is a good thing - but we are still not out of the woods.
We need to keep up the rollout of the vaccine, that's where the real cut in transmission will come from. Great work by the NHS in this regard, shows what happens when you trust public services to do the job.
Or get someone from Private Equity to head up the strategy roll-out
While the NHS is doing an outstanding job, the makers of vaccines, syringes, vials and the materials suppliers and logistical support are not public services. Take any of these cards out of the pyramid and it all comes down.
This isn't all down to the NHS. In fact they have only played a small part in the roll out. The biggest part is the thousands of volunteers who we owe our thanks to..
All ive heard is "protect the NHS" but isnt the NHS there to protect us. The NHS needs major reform to make it fit for this century not the 1960's where it current sits at.
All ive heard is "protect the NHS" but isnt the NHS there to protect us. The NHS needs major reform to make it fit for this century not the 1960's where it current sits at.
Greta work by the NHS is giving the vaccine, not so great in getting it organised. Once again the Gov had to bring in the Army to make sure the programme could work at speed. I wouldn’t trust many in senior positions in our ‘marvellous’ public services to organise a drinks party in a brewery.
Continue the vaccine rollout ... brilliant! I bet the Govt never thought of that little gem of strategic wisdom.
Let those who WANT the vaccine have the vaccine, respect EVERYONE'S RIGHT to decide their OWN health choices. No to mandatory or coerced vaccination. No to vaccine passports of any name or nature.
Amazing what public service can do when you chuck limitless amounts of money at it and it doesn't have to manage it's resources. If only it could go on like thus forever. This must be what imaginary life under a labour government must be like.
Its been a partnership from the start and no single sector is more valuable than the other. Public, Private and Civil sectors have all helped equally to active this. Shows what can be done if you identify the required skills and let them do it.
Would not have achieved it without the logistics planning of the Army.
Why are they always forgotten?
Why are they always forgotten?
Not if you believe some of the “expert” opinions on HYS. Split between the science deniers and attention seekers, they’ll come out with some unsupported nonsense.
Great to hear
Hopefully we'll be able to return to some form of normality.
It appears that Lockdowns do work.
Keep safe all
Hopefully we'll be able to return to some form of normality.
It appears that Lockdowns do work.
Keep safe all
Or that endemic seasonal respiratory viruses go away as winter ends.
Why "some form of normality" rather than complete normality? After vaccination, covid-19 is likely to be unexceptional compared to other endemic respiratory viruses.
I can understand arguments about the timetable, but not the idea we have to permanently reorder our lives around (what will be) one mild disease out of many
I can understand arguments about the timetable, but not the idea we have to permanently reorder our lives around (what will be) one mild disease out of many
NHS own data show infections were falling before lockdown.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/api/v1/data?filters=areaType=overview&structure=%7B%22areaType%22:%22areaType%22,%22areaName%22:%22areaName%22,%22areaCode%22:%22areaCode%22,%22date%22:%22date%22,%22newCasesBySpecimenDate%22:%22newCasesBySpecimenDate%22,%22cumCasesBySpecimenDate%22:%22cumCasesBySpecimenDate%22%7D&format=csv
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/api/v1/data?filters=areaType=overview&structure=%7B%22areaType%22:%22areaType%22,%22areaName%22:%22areaName%22,%22areaCode%22:%22areaCode%22,%22date%22:%22date%22,%22newCasesBySpecimenDate%22:%22newCasesBySpecimenDate%22,%22cumCasesBySpecimenDate%22:%22cumCasesBySpecimenDate%22%7D&format=csv
History shows lockdowns never work, all they do is create delay. What has worked is the roll out of the vaccine.
Lockdowns work, but, the key question is whether the vaccination programme is working. If it isn't we will go into another lockdown in the not too distant future. It would be good to see solid evidence that the vaccination programme is working.
Agreed, but we must keep the lockdowns for a while yet, it will be worth it.
Apart from in all the areas that the report clearly indicates and the doctors and politicians are clearly saying it doesn’t or did you skip the awkward bits where it said reductions have flatlined and worse reversed because infections are rising again..?
No they don't worst affected countries had some of the hardest lock-downs.
We've been told we'll be normal by June, then August, then November then Christmas then February half term then spring now summer. I want to believe but have little hope. As for lockdowns if you plot out a typical flu season covid in winter has followed the exact same curve and given its a fundamentally seasonal virus that's not surprising. Maybe lockdown 3 did less than you think
Since the government have (correctly) ruled out pursuing a zero covid strategy, surely alert levels one and two need to be changed.
This is a very good point.
Just to note, that if there are 420000+ people currently with covid, and the R rate is 0.6-0.9, that means somewhere between quarter and half a million more people are going to be infected in the near future. This is a lot better than we have seen for some time, but I still don't fancy those odds, and we should not be rushing to relax.
Yes your correct, much better to pursue a strategy that has killed over 120,000 than a strategy that has proven to kill less than 1,000 and does less damage to the economy. Clever strategy!
There is actually a chance we could eradicate this thing like we did smallpox. Nobody can say for sure yet but SARS 1 (a similar bug) is now history. Would need a world wide vaccination campaign but could be 50 billion well spent if the alternative is annual boosters, poor countries ravaged etc.
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Tee hee. Some people actually believe this.
Pretty distasteful of Ms Sturgeon to turn it into a contest!
How about “Visit Scotland it’s better than average” ready for when tourism restarts?
No we haven't. Sturgeon massaged the figures. Until the second wave we didn't even count the deaths in our care homes. And they accounted for 50% of fatalities. We're near enough on a par per capita with the RoUK.
Do yourself a favour and stop talking rubbish.
Do yourself a favour and stop talking rubbish.
Yes, I’ve heard the Edinburgh AstraZeneca vaccine is hugely effective
And if Scotland weren't part of the Union their record on vaccines and also a way out of this would be?
Oh wait ; they would of had zero cases because Sturgeon would have been doing the counting.
BBC are a disgrace for giving her airtime
Oh wait ; they would of had zero cases because Sturgeon would have been doing the counting.
BBC are a disgrace for giving her airtime
Lucky you are not in the EU you still be waiting for a vaccine. :-)
It's a pity they don't manage their politics, education and economy better. Have the SNP imploded yet?
How sad to attempt political point scoring at this time. Contain yourself!
Coupled with the rapid vaccination that the UK is going through and dropping infection rates it looks like there's some light at the end of the tunnel.
I'll get flamed for the this comment but am past caring. Yes, loads of light for the well off, comfortable chattering classes, who have broadly eulogised lockdown and the restrictions. Not quite as much light for the rest of us on moderate incomes, who as always will bear the brunt of the looming economic downturn. History will ask was it worth it? Time will tell.
Jackanory ... coming up to the start of the new tax year more like. But what's the point in trying to tell The sun, Mail and Express readers
Only to find it's another train coming the other way.
Do not end lockdown until everyone has had their second dose.
Do not end lockdown until everyone has had their second dose.
Stop making this headlines! It's just asking for Covidiots to relax and ignore the rules
We can have data on this , so how about more data on the Oxford vaccine. It may persuade more of us to have it ,and much better than message from the rich and famous. That always assumes the data that has not been released is positive !!
You obviously haven't been reading the news, the data was released last week, after a single dose the Pfizer vaccine gives about 85% immunity and the AZ vaccine above 90%. Both create very strong antibody responses and for the AZ vaccine it is particularly strong in the elderly. Clearly they don't have very much data for the young yet as few are vaccinated other than carers.
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
It looks like our early vaccination rollout coupled with falling infection rates is a way out of this mess.
Great decision to start the vaccination earlier and avoid the troubles that the E.U has
suffered
Great decision to start the vaccination earlier and avoid the troubles that the E.U has
suffered
Yet the eu27 don't have any more troubles than uk has
Rates are coming down, restrictions in place, schools are open, more people have had full vaccination (2 doses), people wear masks, Brits aren't welcome, no issues with imports and exports
Not sure why what is & isn't happening in eu27 is your concern.
Haven't you learnt blame deflection doesn't work even for small minded little englanders
Rates are coming down, restrictions in place, schools are open, more people have had full vaccination (2 doses), people wear masks, Brits aren't welcome, no issues with imports and exports
Not sure why what is & isn't happening in eu27 is your concern.
Haven't you learnt blame deflection doesn't work even for small minded little englanders
Your downvotes are not from people living in the eu there from sad woke rejoiners still be happy that their still bitter and in denial sad lot makes my day flipmode
If you believe that our quick vaccination scheme is the result of good Govt policy
Then you must also believe that many of the 125,000 deaths the UK has suffered in the last 11 months are the result of poor Govt decion making and failed policies
To think otherwise is childish cherry picking
Then you must also believe that many of the 125,000 deaths the UK has suffered in the last 11 months are the result of poor Govt decion making and failed policies
To think otherwise is childish cherry picking
Do not compare you miserable island with any European country, you will never measure up in any way
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That all depends on how strong the evidence was at the time. Otherwise you could argue that playing Russian roulette was a great decision because you didn't put a bullet in your head. If the evidence was there, it was a great decision. Otherwise it was a lucky decision. Indications are that the evidence was there.
Well said, our government flexing its new found independence and adapting to the situation has made us a show case to the world for brilliance and I’m sure this is just the start of a build back better for the uk ,
Post Brexit, post covid Britain is going to be a huge success.
Post Brexit, post covid Britain is going to be a huge success.
Stop making this headlines! It's just asking for Covidiots to relax and ignore the rules
My comment is in jest - shouldn't be hiding the truth, it would just be such a shame, when we are doing so well, for things to relax and slip and slow this success
The ONS should be asking people whether they have been vaccinated so that we get a better understanding of the effectiveness (or not) of the vaccines....
How convenient that the "endemic sessional virus" spiked after a relaxation during late December but just so happened to start dropping in the winter months that were just as cold afterwards.
Viruses don't go around in winter because they have time off during the holidays, they spread due to factors such as temperature and humidity, which the following months were very similar to.
Viruses don't go around in winter because they have time off during the holidays, they spread due to factors such as temperature and humidity, which the following months were very similar to.
Yo seem to have forgotten that Covid 19 arrived and spread really fast AFTER WINTER ENDED last year.......................
but don't let that stop you trying to pretend it is nothing to do with the lockdown.
but don't let that stop you trying to pretend it is nothing to do with the lockdown.
I'm guessing you were asleep for most of 2020 then.
Tell that to South America & South Africa, as their infection graphs closely match those of northern hemisphere countries.
So in this case, it's not true.
So in this case, it's not true.
But stupidity remains.
Yes, that as well ... too many studies showing lockdowns are of minimal use. Vaccine obviously helps. Winter ending certainly probably helps.
If you look at the figures for flu deaths you will see because of lockdown and people not mixing and going to work etc they are down massively this winter so staying home is helping.
Considering the FACT that Covid-19 IS NOT SEASONAL and is with us ALL YEAR ROUND then that kind shows you need to educate yourself on the subject before commenting on it...
We need to keep up the rollout of the vaccine, that's where the real cut in transmission will come from. Great work by the NHS in this regard, shows what happens when you trust public services to do the job.
Lets hope the downward trend continues as people are vaccinated and the country is opened up.
Why are people down voting this hope? What's wrong with them?
As announced in 5 o'clock briefing, case rates flatlining in many areas, but actually going up in 1 in 5 local authority areas.
Chart not shown here for weekly change scaled I think -20 to +20%.
My own LA one of the bad ones.
Clear to anyone, many not complying, groups out and about, kids playing, parents mixing, teens socialising, no SD, no masks etc
Chart not shown here for weekly change scaled I think -20 to +20%.
My own LA one of the bad ones.
Clear to anyone, many not complying, groups out and about, kids playing, parents mixing, teens socialising, no SD, no masks etc
Excellent news again, but lets keep it real. It's still a potentially deadly virus and there's still more than enough of it around for cases to go through the roof if we get complacent. The rules are working, and the vaccination programme is on track: lets keep it that way until the cases are low enough and enough people are vaccinated that when we do come out of restrictions, it'll be for good.
If the vaccine is working and several million of those who were identified as at risk have been done, the cases may go up but as long as hospitalizations don't go up dramatically we're ok.
I think there are many people now, who recognize the misalignment between what they are being told by the Gov't & media is true, and what their own logic and observations tell them is true.
The only reason many are still compliant in the Lockdown experiment is through the incessant generation of fear, and the millions of workers still on furlough.
The only reason many are still compliant in the Lockdown experiment is through the incessant generation of fear, and the millions of workers still on furlough.
A cold is a potentially deadly virus, and depressingly it seems obvious now that half the country would advocate a lockdown for that if PHE and ONS decided they were going to count the number of people who died 'with' a cold and got every media organisation to announce it every day
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Thankfully we left the E.U. in time to get a decent vaccination rolled out
but more people are dead here, im not sure thats a complete victory....
Yet we bought the vaccines while still following EU rules. Any country could have done the same
Don't let facts get in the way of your hate though
Thick as mince
Don't let facts get in the way of your hate though
Thick as mince
Let's just get on with it. No restrictions. Those at risk are no longer at risk of death.
Get on with what exactly? Life is full of restrictions, both to protect you and others you share your living space with. If you don't want restrictions, just stay in your home and let the sensible majority get on with making the best of a difficult situation.
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Sounds a lot like a remoaner when you replace Scotland for EU Sturgeon for Nigel. LoL see you in May pal
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Better than making it to the sunlit uplands
Sun is out, the birds are singing and over 1 million Brits being vaccinated against Covid every week. Things are looking up, there light at the end of the long tunnel and we hopefully return to some sort of normality in the summer.
Happy days ahead folks.
Happy days ahead folks.
The God of Grumpiness is online! He voted this down!
2 million + Brits each week!
Not only the birds that are out. The sunshine has brought out the millions this afternoon, vaccinated or not because they have had enough and are responding to the latest data. Can't be bothered about the rules any more.
Happy days ahead. If your liveliehood hasn't already been sacrificed.
Hope you can still afford netflix
I'm pretty sure this will reemerge and although virtually no one can die by then - they'll be another knee-jerk lockdown
I'm pretty sure this will reemerge and although virtually no one can die by then - they'll be another knee-jerk lockdown
"Brit" is an awful term. You should write a column for The Sun.
And then we have the fall,
Autumn.
Autumn.
over 1 million Brits being vaccinated against Covid every week.
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With 68 Million people in UK that is {double up 60 million} at least 120 weeks for everyone to get both parts of the vaccination.
I am certainly NOT knocking the success - just say that most people do not realise how big the task is.
Good job that Covid-19 is not so serious as once feared.
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With 68 Million people in UK that is {double up 60 million} at least 120 weeks for everyone to get both parts of the vaccination.
I am certainly NOT knocking the success - just say that most people do not realise how big the task is.
Good job that Covid-19 is not so serious as once feared.
I'm sorry. Which tunnel was that again ???
Some of us might be too exhausted and unfit to discern the light; and time moves relentlessly on, so there is never ‘a return to...’, only a new normal.
My happy days started last weekend
"Light at the end of the tunnel" mate we're already there, 20 million people vaccinated and hospitalisations down 94% when vaccinated - this endless delayed satisfaction needs to end, we've made it.
Think of the people who have died,not your shelves
Think of the dead,you tory nasty person
I still don't understand why the official stats say 421k people have the virus in the UK, yet the ZOE app, which tracks 4.5 million real people in real time, estimate it is 151k?
ZOE only predicts those with Symptomatic Covid, it does not include those who are infected but have no symptoms. The ONS random testing will pick up and count those without symptoms
The ONS survey data is a week out of date, the ZOE app is real time.
Well done us.
Us being the British public.
Sick of being told by angry people that we are all "Covidiots".
We have all made massive sacrifices, and are now seeing an improvement in our situation.
Us being the British public.
Sick of being told by angry people that we are all "Covidiots".
We have all made massive sacrifices, and are now seeing an improvement in our situation.
If you have stayed at home and made massive sacrifices like the majority of us have... then maybe the term 'covidiot' was never aimed at you?
"Covidiot" is used to describe people who are wilfully ignoring rules and guidance, without any care for anyone other than themselves. If you're doing your bit, it's not directed at you, so stop taking offence where none has been given.
The majority have made sacrifices and stayed at home. The covidiots are the entitled minority who ignore or stretch the rules, prolonging lock down for the rest of us.
They call us Covidiots, and we call them Covidiots also. So confusing.
Or just maybe tougher rules backed by law and sanctions finally drove home the message
The "covidiots" are the extremists on both sides. Those who flout the rules and then come out with garbage to try and justify it, and those who take the rules to a ridiculous illogical extreme, such as yelling at someone for not wearing a mask whilst driving in their car alone.
A Covidiot is someone that breaks the rules:
. 'Claims' to be exempt to prevent wearing face masks in shops
. Goes to house parties with others
. Drives 100 miles to a beach
. Doesn't do social distancing
. 'Claims' to be exempt to prevent wearing face masks in shops
. Goes to house parties with others
. Drives 100 miles to a beach
. Doesn't do social distancing
For me one of the saddest things about the whole pandemic was that Tory govt spin blamed the tiny minority who broke the rules instead of accepting blame for their many mistakes and constant dither, and that so many British people were so quick & happy to believe this
They seem to believe anything the "saviour of Christmas" tells them to
They seem to believe anything the "saviour of Christmas" tells them to
Some still like to argue that if restrictions are lifted before 2035 the world will come to an end.
The true "covidiots" are the middle class twits who went flying on holidays anytime from 1 Feb 2020 onwards.
Not working class lads playing footie in the park or having a BBQ as seems to be the accusation in the media.
Ironically it's the same middle class twits who went flying and spread the virus around the globe who seem to be the ones calling others covidiots.
Total lack of self awareness.
Not working class lads playing footie in the park or having a BBQ as seems to be the accusation in the media.
Ironically it's the same middle class twits who went flying and spread the virus around the globe who seem to be the ones calling others covidiots.
Total lack of self awareness.
What a charade this all is. Average age of a covid death 82 years old. Why are governments doing this?!
Agreed. But time to stop making sacrifices is now. If you can read the data, it's obvious that there's no reason to be in lockdown a moment longer, unless you're a lockdown enthusiast. And btw..anyone who uses the term 'covidiot' unironically is either retired and happy living in a hermetically sealed vault, or 'easily led'.
(U19265807 obviously a brexit voter.) Yes, well done! The British public have single handedly, with their unique blitz spirit, defeated Covid19. Dame Vera Lynn would be so proud.
The majority of the BP have made huge sacrifices, and our figures are improving: but we are still seeing thousands of infected people, every day, so our resolve to follow the guidelines and be careful must not waiver. We want schools to open, and stay open, and restrictions to start easing, so we have to stop the spread. Otherwise neither will.
I agree but there are a significant minority who continue to make the situation worse by not doing what they were supposed to. Add to that the (if you believe HYS) significant numbers who are refusing to be vaccinated then this could be a long haul. We have to get hospitalisation numbers down and for that as many as possible need to be vaccinated. As HRH said, "it is everyone's responsibility".
I should hope so.
We are all in lock down - it would be a poor show if infection rates where still increasing while we are having next to no contact with people.
We are all in lock down - it would be a poor show if infection rates where still increasing while we are having next to no contact with people.
"next to no contact with people"?
The reason it's drugging on and on is that this is simply not true!
The reason it's drugging on and on is that this is simply not true!
In some areas rates are increasing. Which implies a lot of contact so going on there. I'm guessing some is in communities where key workers bring it back to crowded households, but some will be concentrations of covidiots.
actually in many instances they were, studies increasingly show lock-downs are not the answer, the hardest lock-downs appear to produce the worst infection rates.
There are some very dangerous variants evolving in usa.if UK is not hotel quarantine ALL the countries arriving in UK.the vaccines may well be useless in a while!It is far too early to be complacent, UK has never learnt the lesson.
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
I'm afraid you're wrong. The only one who's motivate by hate, whim, and a craving to "win" is you.
Normal people understand that not everything is a football match with a cup for the team that scores the most vaccinations, or the fewest deaths, or the quickest response, or...
I for one I'm happy that I will have the vaccine sooner rather than later.
Normal people understand that not everything is a football match with a cup for the team that scores the most vaccinations, or the fewest deaths, or the quickest response, or...
I for one I'm happy that I will have the vaccine sooner rather than later.
Why the obsession with what others are doing especially the eu
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Oops I forget about your inferiority complex, weaknesses, fear, jealousy, league table low mentality, and of course your pathetic childish blame deflection Removed
O Yes brexit
Where we spent Billions to gain .......
More unelected law makers than elected law makers in the UK parliament! So much for democracy.
Save the Fishing industry - that now cant sell most of its fish
No change at all to migration
£350 million a week to the NHS?
But yes - OK we might have done a better job with the vaccine - but this would have still been a devolved issue any way.
Where we spent Billions to gain .......
More unelected law makers than elected law makers in the UK parliament! So much for democracy.
Save the Fishing industry - that now cant sell most of its fish
No change at all to migration
£350 million a week to the NHS?
But yes - OK we might have done a better job with the vaccine - but this would have still been a devolved issue any way.
Perhaps they disagreed with you - is it not allowed to have a view now, without being called a "moaner"?
Perhaps they disagreed because they don't see it as some sort of competition?
Perhaps they disagreed because they don't see it as some sort of competition?
'You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner'
125k dead (2nd worst death rate on planet). Most damaged major economy on planet. Twitmode strikes again.
125k dead (2nd worst death rate on planet). Most damaged major economy on planet. Twitmode strikes again.
Well, your comment seems to ignore how we lost more people on the way to this point. It also seems to imply that the vaccine success (where we have done better) would not have been possible without Brexit, when in fact every vaccine related decision we made could have been made as an EU member. That's probably why people react. Not because they are moaners.
They can’t stand to see the UK do well at anything. They are desperate for the UK to collapse so they can say “I told you so” with a smug look on their faces. They think they are intellectually and morally superior in very way.
Yet the eu27 don't have any more troubles than uk has
Rates are coming down, restrictions in place, schools are open, more people have had full vaccination (2 doses), people wear masks, Brits aren't welcome, no issues with imports and exports
Not sure why what is & isn't happening in eu27 is your concern.
Haven't you learnt blame deflection doesn't work even for small minded little englanders
Rates are coming down, restrictions in place, schools are open, more people have had full vaccination (2 doses), people wear masks, Brits aren't welcome, no issues with imports and exports
Not sure why what is & isn't happening in eu27 is your concern.
Haven't you learnt blame deflection doesn't work even for small minded little englanders
Have you taken a look at what is happening in Poland / Czech Republic / Ukraine ? Belgium / France, etc...?
Italy has vaccinated (with 2 jabs) more people than the UK, but, on every other count the EU vaccination programme is way behind the UK.
It is of concern because no one is safe until everyone is vaccinated.
Italy has vaccinated (with 2 jabs) more people than the UK, but, on every other count the EU vaccination programme is way behind the UK.
It is of concern because no one is safe until everyone is vaccinated.
Stats as of today:
# per 100 vaccinated: UK = 28.57; EU = 6.70.
Your claim on EU vax numbers is disingenuous at best and lies at worst.
I've no beef with the EU and I hope they get on track with vaccination; the whole world needs to be vaccinated before things can truly go back to some sort of normal, but please don't post BS to try to defend EU's monumental fail in their vaccination strategy.
# per 100 vaccinated: UK = 28.57; EU = 6.70.
Your claim on EU vax numbers is disingenuous at best and lies at worst.
I've no beef with the EU and I hope they get on track with vaccination; the whole world needs to be vaccinated before things can truly go back to some sort of normal, but please don't post BS to try to defend EU's monumental fail in their vaccination strategy.
look at Spike 3 in many EU states.
Hmmm the latest 7 day ave for cases in France is more than double that of the uk. Latest vaccination data shows uk vac more than eu put together and if you strip out the 7% for Germany the eu figures are abysmal. Yiu are right other countries performance shd be of no issue but equally neither dhd the meaningless deaths and fall in GDP figures be trotted out.
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Got to love a remoaner. My god, still harping on, get over it blossom
If any Remainers out there are still wondering why they lost, this is why
and maybe you should check your facts. having been in france working with a german, there are lots of issues in both countries. plus, massive back pedal on astrazenica . France, in comparison, has the biggest number of chin wearers. no organisation at airports or on their national carrier, unlike BA and heathrow. Sorry, but the sun does not shine out of the EU's posterior.
Doesitmatter.
More a case of Mind over Matter.
I don't Mind and You don't Matter.
More a case of Mind over Matter.
I don't Mind and You don't Matter.
"Yet the eu27 don't have any more troubles than uk has"
Not according to Euronews, you might like to try reading it, and that despite it being so EU biased it makes you look like a UK supporting Brexiteer!
Not according to Euronews, you might like to try reading it, and that despite it being so EU biased it makes you look like a UK supporting Brexiteer!
Case rates in France are going up. They’re considering another lockdown. Not anticipating opening borders until late summer. Our government have made a pigs ear of most of it but it’s not sunny uplands in the EU either. An
19 in Grampian today. A huge region with a population of over 500k. But then we'll still keep hiding behind the curtains and completely kill the economy.
Come out of lockdown and next week that 19 will be 40, then 80, then 160 and by Easter 1000's. Also that 19 is the number reported and you can easily triple it or more for actual cases and 19 new cases in a day 2 weeks of infectivity - 266 active cases at absolute minimum.
Only 19 new reported cases in a day is a good thing - but we are still not out of the woods.
Only 19 new reported cases in a day is a good thing - but we are still not out of the woods.
You have to forgive them, so many cannot cope with even basic maths, but still portray themselves as armchair epidemiologists who know far more than the medics.
The first steps back to some sort of normality are finally been taken. This virus has caused massive pain and suffering to all sorts of people for many sorts of issues both health and livelihood. We are not going to see the back of the virus, we are going to have to learn to live with that but lets hope this is the last lockdown we have to live through.
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
I'm afraid you're wrong. The only one who's motivate by hate, whim, and a craving to "win" is you.
Normal people understand that not everything is a football match with a cup for the team that scores the most vaccinations, or the fewest deaths, or the quickest response, or...
I for one I'm happy that I will have the vaccine sooner rather than later.
Normal people understand that not everything is a football match with a cup for the team that scores the most vaccinations, or the fewest deaths, or the quickest response, or...
I for one I'm happy that I will have the vaccine sooner rather than later.
And yet you and your fellow remoaners would be emitting your usual high pitched whine if the EU had vaccinated more than the UK. 'Oh another failure from Brexit Britain, look at how well the lovely EU are doing, aren't they great!' Pathetic
Remoaners aren't normal.
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Stop making this headlines! It's just asking for Covidiots to relax and ignore the rules
Have you been in the parks and seen all the people mingling? Lockdown doesn't stop the vur is, it's a complete nonsense. The vaccines and the climate are causing the reduction. Lockdown is just killing people unnecessarily.
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
Scotland has managed this crisis better than the union’s average
Only because national lockdown came weeks after locking down the 3 most populous regions.
That may have happened on your planet, but, here on Earth in the UK cases started falling as a direct result of lockdown. What remains to be seen is whether the vaccination programme is having an positive impact on the figures...
Pardon!
lockdown started at the beginning of January. Reported cases did not start to fall till around the 17th -18th. the exact peak is hard to find as testing was not able to keep up with demand. Given most of the worst hit areas had been put in a tier 3 or 4 lockdown before the end of the year that looks about right for an about 2 weeks lag
lockdown started at the beginning of January. Reported cases did not start to fall till around the 17th -18th. the exact peak is hard to find as testing was not able to keep up with demand. Given most of the worst hit areas had been put in a tier 3 or 4 lockdown before the end of the year that looks about right for an about 2 weeks lag
Try learning some basic statistics. 7 day moving averages have been in GCSE Maths since the early 1990s. Then you can avoid making wrongful claims and currently fooling 53/172 voters.
lockdown started on 4th, cases started falling around the 9th.
Are you suggesting they implemented lockdown when they knew cases were about to fall? Or was it just coincidence?
Why the same pattern in april 2020 and november 2020 with cases falling soon after lockdown implemented?
Are you suggesting they implemented lockdown when they knew cases were about to fall? Or was it just coincidence?
Why the same pattern in april 2020 and november 2020 with cases falling soon after lockdown implemented?
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
O Yes brexit
Where we spent Billions to gain .......
More unelected law makers than elected law makers in the UK parliament! So much for democracy.
Save the Fishing industry - that now cant sell most of its fish
No change at all to migration
£350 million a week to the NHS?
But yes - OK we might have done a better job with the vaccine - but this would have still been a devolved issue any way.
Where we spent Billions to gain .......
More unelected law makers than elected law makers in the UK parliament! So much for democracy.
Save the Fishing industry - that now cant sell most of its fish
No change at all to migration
£350 million a week to the NHS?
But yes - OK we might have done a better job with the vaccine - but this would have still been a devolved issue any way.
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
Sun is out, the birds are singing and over 1 million Brits being vaccinated against Covid every week. Things are looking up, there light at the end of the long tunnel and we hopefully return to some sort of normality in the summer.
Happy days ahead folks.
Happy days ahead folks.
Bitter remoaners.
They hate any good news, as it knocks down their "we are doomed" entrenched position.
They would prefer lots more to die and for us to be in lockdown than any chance of a positive outlook for this country - and gov. success.
They are very twisted and bitter people.
Still, we just ignore them, anyway.
They hate any good news, as it knocks down their "we are doomed" entrenched position.
They would prefer lots more to die and for us to be in lockdown than any chance of a positive outlook for this country - and gov. success.
They are very twisted and bitter people.
Still, we just ignore them, anyway.
I have. I always do with such happy clappy, give me a like comments. It's like.....like mania on this posting board. No one says anything controversial, no food for thoughts, everything has to be on the same note, same tune, one standard. BBC posting board is becoming like facebook one. Birds, Sun....and how am I supposed to like this comment?
That light at the end of the tunnel people keep talking about is actually a train of destruction, steaming headlong for us all thanks to Bojo and chums poor management of things and their headless chicken Brexit non-oven readyness!
No we're thinking of the fellow citizens of our country the 123,000 murdered by Boris
We will remember this not the tory lies Removed
We will remember this not the tory lies Removed
LISTEN, OFFICIAL. from the W.H.O. It is now an EPIDEMIC
After reading some comments on here you cannot help but think
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
We aren't ahead, our death-toll is hugely higher, and only made better progress because were in worse shape. It's sad the government have taken all the glory for the vaccine, because a) everything else has been a disaster, and they needed something successful to grab onto, b) all the hard work was due to NHS.
It's not frustrating. It's just irrelevant. Some countries are behind us. Some are ahead. We have a half vaccination strategy. Others don't.
Your country will never be ahead of any EU country,you are behind times in every respect
My god, we get it: you voted for Brexit, you think the sun shines out of Boris' back catalogue, and you could bear the thought of a HYS going by without reminding everyone of those facts! Well done, mission accomplished. Next time, though, why not just come out and say so, rather than act all coy, pretending to be neutral? It's beneath you, and it wastes everybody's time.
Why has nobody died of flu this year? Answer - they have been logged as covid deaths along with almost every other death. What a deceitful charade...
Sometimes?!
Why "some form of normality" rather than complete normality? After vaccination, covid-19 is likely to be unexceptional compared to other endemic respiratory viruses.
I can understand arguments about the timetable, but not the idea we have to permanently reorder our lives around (what will be) one mild disease out of many
I can understand arguments about the timetable, but not the idea we have to permanently reorder our lives around (what will be) one mild disease out of many
I think covidiots are great - need a bit of pushback or we will be in lockdown forever. I applaud all the footballers getting haircuts, the gov advisors testing their eyes, the house parties. Brilliant!
Funnily enough, sage have now stated that no cases could be attributed to the large number of people who attended the beaches last year.
The term 'covidiot' is only used by dreary people with a very limited imagination. Probably the same people who like to refer to 'Micro$oft'.
I’m on my way to Barnard Castle. Cause me eyes are giving me hassle.
It was aimed at vast numbers of people by Covid Cultists who wanted everyone locked down, even the young, immune & healthy.
I watch English news, Chinese news, French news,is not it enough?Not only the English variant, south African variant, Brazil variant evolve,other countries can also have new variants, do you believe so?
Exactly, facts not rumours!
Excellent work. We are quickly getting to the point where sage ordered Johnson to do a circuit break (which he ignored leading to 70,000 extra deaths and a 2 month lockdown!).
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Wales did a fire break. It didn’t work. Why? Lockdowns don’t work.
Hey Jude, don’t make sad..
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
Or that endemic seasonal respiratory viruses go away as winter ends.
How convenient that the "endemic sessional virus" spiked after a relaxation during late December but just so happened to start dropping in the winter months that were just as cold afterwards.
Viruses don't go around in winter because they have time off during the holidays, they spread due to factors such as temperature and humidity, which the following months were very similar to.
Viruses don't go around in winter because they have time off during the holidays, they spread due to factors such as temperature and humidity, which the following months were very similar to.
March and April 2020 were dry and warm - that is when the virus arrived and spread fast.
Rather disproves your theory.
Rather disproves your theory.
It's not just cold, the virus hates very hot and very cold conditions. In the UK we have very wet, cool conditions, worse in the midlands and north. Just look at how quickly the south and London figures went down while further north they remain high. Weather is key, but even in a small country like ours there are big variations. Hence our poor placing in the covid league table.
It appears that my comment stating that we're doing better than the E.U is upsetting the regular moaners on here.
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
You'd think they'd be happy that the UK's approach is proving to be a winner
But i guess it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
No doubt they've still had their vaccination though :o)
Except that neither of your two claims are true. Why do deniers twist public data so much?
"125k dead (2nd worst death rate on planet). Most damaged major economy on planet.125k dead (2nd worst death rate on planet). Most damaged major economy on planet. Twitmode strikes again."
Neither of those things are true, though. It's not difficult to check, when you have an interweb to look stuff up.
Probably best to avoid calling people names like twit when your 'facts' are wrong, eh?
Neither of those things are true, though. It's not difficult to check, when you have an interweb to look stuff up.
Probably best to avoid calling people names like twit when your 'facts' are wrong, eh?
I'll get flamed for the this comment but am past caring. Yes, loads of light for the well off, comfortable chattering classes, who have broadly eulogised lockdown and the restrictions. Not quite as much light for the rest of us on moderate incomes, who as always will bear the brunt of the looming economic downturn. History will ask was it worth it? Time will tell.
Clearly no one you care about has died then...... lucky you.
This! I’ve lost most of my business for 2020 & 2021 with very little future bookings (I’m in the tourism industry). I am having to sell my house to keep my head above water. I have 3 young children and the effect this has had on my 6 year old is huge - he doesn’t want to move schools etc. Vaccine roll out has been good.... the rest of the handling has been poor.
'Get flamed'. Not at all. Better to keep a head on your shoulders than the hysterical, eulogizing nonsense crawling around Johnson and Hancock.
yes only time will tell but understand you comment but would say this virus has hurt us all and mmmoney isnt everything of you've sufferred loses in this pandemic
The economic downturn is not down to the virus. It's down to the appalling mishandling of the situation by Boris, starting with his 6-week absence after the Brexit celebrations and his numerous fluffs, faffs, errors and u-turns ever since.
But he will blame the (not) unprecedented virus rather than the compounding factor - the "fantastic" (imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality) deal.
But he will blame the (not) unprecedented virus rather than the compounding factor - the "fantastic" (imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality) deal.
I don’t think you’ll get flamed, but this is a disappointing comment. Most people have suffered through Covid, well over 100,000 people have died and the Government have provided unprecedented levels of support and have stated they will continue to do so. Life isn’t always a bowl of cherries and we’ll get through this. Not without some pain, but it’s called life.
Time will tell is true. Have been a lot of gov errors through the whole of this which will no doubt be properly looked at. At least there is some progress now, even if painfully cautious.
I think it's a fair comment re the less well off being harder hit, whether in lockdown or post lockdown. However, I think that would have been even more true in the absence of lockdowns.
There will indeed be a very high price to pay for this, and for a very long time. And I'm guessing the lockdown brigade will be among the first to complain.
I'm not going to flame you, but what do you think the result of the Government carrying on as if there were no pandemic?
Many millions would have been scared, employers would have ended up allowing us to work from home rather than face levels of absenteeism that were unmanageable.
People would have stayed away from pubs, restaurants and tourist spots with no financial support to those businesses
Many millions would have been scared, employers would have ended up allowing us to work from home rather than face levels of absenteeism that were unmanageable.
People would have stayed away from pubs, restaurants and tourist spots with no financial support to those businesses
If you're not happy with your life or income then YOU do something about it. Im sick and tired of the moaners on here
who want the government or others to fund their lifestyles. Ive been redundant several times, re-trained and moved house to improve myself and my life. If people want "comfortable" lifestyles then you have to work much harder for that.
who want the government or others to fund their lifestyles. Ive been redundant several times, re-trained and moved house to improve myself and my life. If people want "comfortable" lifestyles then you have to work much harder for that.
Was what worth it - a temporary increase in unemployment compared to how many more dead - 300,000? 400,000? More?
And then have an even greater economic hit as sickness & other illnesses run rampant due to the NHS collapsing.
Sheesh...
And then have an even greater economic hit as sickness & other illnesses run rampant due to the NHS collapsing.
Sheesh...
The young people, but as they do not vote as much as the elderly, they are not a key to government power, so don't amtter, thus shafting them to benefit old people is a sound strategy.
history will deem the cure worse than the disease
How about in the remaining few weeks of lockdown we all lose a few pounds and start getting back into shape. The next step of the journey will be challenging but I’m up for it.
Get on with what exactly? Life is full of restrictions, both to protect you and others you share your living space with. If you don't want restrictions, just stay in your home and let the sensible majority get on with making the best of a difficult situation.
no covidiot is used by the self righteous against anybody who disagrees with their view , who love to lecture everybody else on social responsibility
Lots of the ever angry Remoaners on here annoyed with the great progress of the UK.
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Perhaps you missed every disaster after disaster over the last year, and the mountain of dead bodies?
125k dead, 2nd worst rate in the world. Worst economic performance of all major economies during crisis. Great progress? Are you poorly?
What great progress? So far Brexit has only made things worse.
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Remember the vaccine isn't for the Covid- Covid is for the vaccine..
I voted brexit but recent events have turned my very much into a rejoiner. A total mismanagement of the COVID crisis has led to 125k dead in UK (by far worst in Europe). And untold damagee to the economy thanks to brexit (worst major ecomomy performace in 2020). I'm so sorry everyone.
Well I voted remain but having seen how the EU tried to bully us I'm pleased we left.
How can you say this
Everybody collates their figures differently We are up front
We are the hub for Europe and the world, it really was hard to call Europe not taking the Oxford jab up and the French and German governments scaring the hell out of their Citizens is in my opinion pre mediated murder
Eu have had long enough to address the problems
Eu is all about pride and Egos
Everybody collates their figures differently We are up front
We are the hub for Europe and the world, it really was hard to call Europe not taking the Oxford jab up and the French and German governments scaring the hell out of their Citizens is in my opinion pre mediated murder
Eu have had long enough to address the problems
Eu is all about pride and Egos
If we hadn't had Brexit we'd be lucky to have a million vaccinated by now let alone 17m. Good riddance to the EU. A con since 1975.
In what way do you think our covid response would have differed if were still in the EU, apart from having fewer people vaccinated.
Odd that, because in all your previous posts you have hated brexit.
Brexit voters were misled and didn't know what they were voting for in 2016 when the UK Government didn't fully know until Christmas eve 2020. Glad you've been able to see the wood from all the trees
I've read a lot of tripe on these pages over time, along with plenty of flagrant untruths. But your post tops the charts on both counts. Undiluted effluent.
The hospital numbers now seem to be the only cause for concern...
Are the patients in hospital with Covid... or are they in hospitals and have Covid? (ie they were admitted for another reason)
Are the patients in hospital with Covid... or are they in hospitals and have Covid? (ie they were admitted for another reason)
The recent kent variant it was suggested in a horizon programme possibly originated in a patient who was in hospital for over a 100 days suffering with covid. I hope everyone wants hospitals to be freed from caring for covid patients.
The statistics don't support this type of covid denial, numerically struggling people don't seem to get this. If the chance of being in hospital with covid is 1/1000 and the chance of being in hospital from some other complaint is 1/1000 then the chance of being in hospital with both conditions is 1/1,000,000
The first steps back to some sort of normality are finally been taken. This virus has caused massive pain and suffering to all sorts of people for many sorts of issues both health and livelihood. We are not going to see the back of the virus, we are going to have to learn to live with that but lets hope this is the last lockdown we have to live through.
Agreed. Massive overe action to a virus with an 0.6% mortality rate, over 82.
Can you please post us your medical and epidemiological qualifications, once you have printed them from the University of Meme? Cheers.
Clearly. Government must be paying people to say otherwise. I'm joking of course. There would be no reason for them to be so deceptive.
Unless of course you died or have been left seriously ill from covid ?
How do work that out? How many have dies from the virus? How many have died from the response. Get real......
No response would have meant around half a million deaths and a lot of people with long term covid. A firm response (like New Zealand) = almost no deaths at (maybe) no greater expense.
Our response was a bungled compromise achieving the worst of both worlds. Boris was late to the party three times (March, September, December). At least we did well on vaccines ...
Our response was a bungled compromise achieving the worst of both worlds. Boris was late to the party three times (March, September, December). At least we did well on vaccines ...
Most definitely, the health impacts of increased deprivation are massive and well studied. The economic impacts of lockdowns alone will cause far more years of life lost then covid would have. Not to mention all that debt meaning we can't invest in green initiatives like we should, which will cause thousands of times more deaths over the coming decades than covid would.
I'm glad that the UK is ahead with vaccinations. Hopefully that means we'll fare better when the next devasting wave sweeps over Europe. This virus ain't done yet, not by miles.
It has nothing to do with hygiene, and everything to do with close proximity for a sustained period of time.
Great news, almost as good as the Begum woman not being allowed back !!
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I voted brexit but recent events have turned my very much into a rejoiner. A total mismanagement of the COVID crisis has led to 125k dead in UK (by far worst in Europe). And untold damagee to the economy thanks to brexit (worst major ecomomy performace in 2020). I'm so sorry everyone.
So that A and E departments can be full of drunks again instead of ill people
Ah, the great British public. You have your life back, what do you want to do?
"Get bladdered!"
"Get bladdered!"
Merkel has already announced they are preparing for the expected third wave despite still being in the second wave. While the majority of the population remains unvaccinated there will be a series of smaller and smaller waves - that's how viruses progress.
Excellent work. We are quickly getting to the point where sage ordered Johnson to do a circuit break (which he ignored leading to 70,000 extra deaths and a 2 month lockdown!).
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
No the worst country for obeying the rules. Who thinks its ok to mix. Also to rush out of London when they knew they were going into lockdown so spreading virus . Who is to say if anybody else had been in charge we would had been any better off ,. The key workers have had too work though this but are heart broken at people being stupid , all key workers deserve praise. Stay safe and get the jab
After reading some comments on here you cannot help but think
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
We aren't ahead, our death-toll is hugely higher, and only made better progress because were in worse shape. It's sad the government have taken all the glory for the vaccine, because a) everything else has been a disaster, and they needed something successful to grab onto, b) all the hard work was due to NHS.
The NHS didn't create or manufacture the vaccine. The government gambled on the success of the AstraZeneca vaccine by paying in advance and manufacture started before it was approved. (It would have been thrown away if it had failed.) Gambling is not normally to be recommended, but in this case it was the right thing to do.
I think you will find that it was the government that invested heavily in the hundreds of millions of vaccines shots that were pre-ordered....
Government damned if they do damned if they don’t but... they can’t be blamed for many things that have contributed to Heath deaths... population density,high level of obesity and diabetes
to name three... equally vaccine and furlough programme have been very good...
to name three... equally vaccine and furlough programme have been very good...
OK Dr Mark G what would you have done seeing as you know all about it.
Included in the death toll are people who died of other causes such as heart disease, terminal cancer, stroke and trauma who happen to have a positive test within 28 days of death. Also those who died in nursing homes where covid was attributed but not confirmed. And in a number of cases to forgo a postmortem.
Yes lots of people died, but exact numbers are lost.
Yes lots of people died, but exact numbers are lost.
'..on a road to recovery...ahead of most countries within the EU'. MarkG: throws toys out of pram 'no we're not, i hate you, it's all Brexits fault'
Begs the question that if our NHS is so wonderful why did so many patients die? You can not blame anyone else as patients died in the hands of clinicians and nurses.
Do you not realize that our death toll is not hugely higher when you consider that out of Europe, there is no other international hub that compares with London. This virus was swirling around here way before we thought we had to panic ! And like most of Europe we were not prepared
Yes we are in this position because of the NHS and our scientists in spite of the inept Government.
Not all the hard work was done by the NHS, there was a lot of work done quietly and efficiently in the background by lots of other agencies most notably the military. Lets not forget this as we move forward
The overall deaths number is a red herring. You'll find very few 80+ year old with underlying health conditions in Africa because they all died well before they made it to that age.
The fact that we have had a high level of deaths in the UK is credit to the work of the NHS in treating people and raising the life expectancy. The countries with the best public health have the most deaths per capita
The fact that we have had a high level of deaths in the UK is credit to the work of the NHS in treating people and raising the life expectancy. The countries with the best public health have the most deaths per capita
The NHS couldn’t manage a tea party let alone a mass vaccination roll out. This has been an incredible logistical collaboration between the Government, local government, private companies and the wider public sector. The Government DOES derive some credit for once.
Utter rubbish. I won’t entertain your egregiously inaccurate statements because it’s a waste of time.
Just wanted you to know the vast, vast majority of your fellow citizens think the EXACT opposite... so go on living in your gloom bubble while we all crack on.
Chin up, flower! x
Just wanted you to know the vast, vast majority of your fellow citizens think the EXACT opposite... so go on living in your gloom bubble while we all crack on.
Chin up, flower! x
NHS and the MOD responsible for vaccine distribution and doing a great job. unlike tory cronies running track and trace at vastly inflated prices
My German sister in law paints a totally different picture than what is peddled by the press that thinks Germany is almost perfect when it comes to the way they have handled Covid. So yes the Gov't have made mistakes but let's thank God those bundling idiots of the Labour Party aren't in power. Germany's figures are not what they seem and I suspect this will be the case with other countries.
it isn't hugely higher, and given the way we count deaths it is certainly greatly inflated. The fact that we have more covid deaths than excess deaths is a clue, unless of course the NHS is so useless that it can be closed for a year to anything but covid and no one dies!!
Down to government give credit where it’s due. Do u blame nhs for shortage of PPE ? And all the deaths or is it governments fault ? U can’t have it both ways. Egg
Hmmmmm. Outside of a pandemic the government is 100% to blame for the woes of the NHS but during has 0% to do with what has been done well. Nice one MarkG.
You total plank. We are highest populated country, hence high rate. Yes government handling could have been better, another factor. Rates are due to several factors, to view only one factor is lunacy. And if you look at vaccination, no denying we are way ahead of everyone else..... but you don't want to see that....
Excellent work. We are quickly getting to the point where sage ordered Johnson to do a circuit break (which he ignored leading to 70,000 extra deaths and a 2 month lockdown!).
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
The first steps back to some sort of normality are finally been taken. This virus has caused massive pain and suffering to all sorts of people for many sorts of issues both health and livelihood. We are not going to see the back of the virus, we are going to have to learn to live with that but lets hope this is the last lockdown we have to live through.
Ignore Flipmode, he is either a troll or mentaly unstable. Either way, best left to its own devices and not encouraged.
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His village is out looking for him
flipmode is one of your 65 usernames
You commented and then changed your name and commented against your own comment. Furlough boredom kicking in?
Great news, almost as good as the Begum woman not being allowed back !!
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Good news! What’s interesting is that the picture shows 2 people - presumably parent & child, both wearing masks - OUTSIDE, putting on ANTIBACTERIAL gel (for a VIRUS) good god, the BBC are complicit in the largest disinformation campaign ever levelled at our own people. I see ppl in the middle of open fields, on their own - with masks. There is no way back from this Munchausens type behaviour.
They're true ProjectFear OperationTerror devotees my friend and Dr's Doom & Gloom aka Whitty & Vallence are very proud of them
You can't be too careful you know ;)
When all this is over I hope some credible organisation undertakes a survey of all the misinformation that has permeated from government and the media.
When all this is over I hope some credible organisation undertakes a survey of all the misinformation that has permeated from government and the media.
The correct information is out there. There is an article on the BBC website saying that transmission outside is highly unlikely. But I would agree with the sentiments; I'd go as far as to say that the benefits of allowing unrestricted outdoor activity far outweigh the tiny risk of transmission and there has never been any justification for restricting people meeting outdoors.
There has certainly been an increase in photos of people wearing masks on BBC articles and live text coverage in recent weeks, including as you say many outdoors, where mask wearing has rightly never been recommended. This must have been a conscious editorial decision. Is this just virtue signalling?
To be fair, alcohol hand sanitiser is also effective on many (not all) viruses......it has proven effect on coronaviruses.
Have you been sniffing too many petrol fumes? How on earth can you determine from that picture that it is antibacterial gel? Are you psychic?
The gel does not KILL the virus as such. It weakens its lipid outer layer which leads to its rapid demise
After reading some comments on here you cannot help but think
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
HYS is strange place sometimes.
The UK is on a road to recovery and this seems to be frustrating some because
we're ahead of most countries with the European Union.
Covid doesn't care how you voted, neither should you when good news is published
We are 4th with 29 in 100 people having been given their first dose of vaccine. By comparison the EU is 31st with 6.75 in 100. One dose is very effective according to recent statistics.
(After 4 weeks the Pfizer-BioNTech jab lowered the risk of hospitalization by 85 per cent while the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab reduced it by 94 per cent.)
(After 4 weeks the Pfizer-BioNTech jab lowered the risk of hospitalization by 85 per cent while the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab reduced it by 94 per cent.)
We have a full vaccine strategy that really started in summer last year with large logistical and commercial commitments to ensure timely testing and supply.
Armchair bores base the half strategy thing on outdated views. The UK approach is now very much supported by the WHO after they finally did their own research and caught up.
Most countries are well behind the UK programme.
Crack on!
Armchair bores base the half strategy thing on outdated views. The UK approach is now very much supported by the WHO after they finally did their own research and caught up.
Most countries are well behind the UK programme.
Crack on!
So give us back our freedom which has been so spectacularly removed in the last year so that society can begin to operate normally. Lockdown gang living in your big houses getting deliveries time to be quiet and think about the millions stuck in flats with no job seeing nobody. LD gang now time to think about all of society not just yourselves. What will you do when you can’t moan about COVID!
Sorry to spoil your narrative, but this lockdown supporter lives in a small rented flat.
Lockdown is certainly easier to bear if you have a big house with a garden, but, I very much doubt that this would be enough to turn someone into a LD supporter. I think you will find that most people support LD because it is the right thing to do. By supporting LD, people are thinking of the safety of others as well as their own safety. Stay safe.
Dougal.. nice. Glad to see some people are still keeping a true perspective on Covid and real life. We could of avoiding much of this new normal if the public did not become Covid news junkies and believing in the Handcock Johnson lies. Yes lies!
Until it's YOU.
Excellent work. We are quickly getting to the point where sage ordered Johnson to do a circuit break (which he ignored leading to 70,000 extra deaths and a 2 month lockdown!).
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Now we need to push on, really get those numbers sub 100 per day and continue with the vaccines. It’s going to keep going the right way. Just a shame we have had no leadership throughout
Great news, almost as good as the Begum woman not being allowed back !!
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