Age not job prioritised in second phase of Covid jab rollout
26/02/2021 | news | health | 3,392
Over-40s will be first in line from mid-April after the top nine priority groups receive one dose.
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26/02/2021 12:09:38 7 8
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I think this was the only way possible to do it, though they could have considered doing the youngest next as the largest spreader when the really at risk groups have been completed.
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26/02/2021 12:14:46 8 7
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But even after vaccination there is no evidence that it will stop you spreading the virus.
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26/02/2021 12:17:41 3 2
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They may be the largest spreaders, but they are even less at risk personally. Presumably those who have the relevant data are in a better position than you to judge the evidence and weigh all aspects, including the point you make which I am sure they will have considered..
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spread the love
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26/02/2021 12:12:03 5 1
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Why are you commenting on it then?
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26/02/2021 12:12:42 5 1
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Because it affects tens of millions of us?
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26/02/2021 12:15:04 4 0
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Because it's an exciting event.
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26/02/2021 12:21:43 1 0
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Come on, we all know that regulars on HYS are renowned world experts on everything and so it's vital to hear their views on this to see if the "so called" experts quoted in the article are correct ;)
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26/02/2021 12:23:39 1 0
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To create a squabble between demographics as to who should have the vaccine first. To make a vaccine a 'must have' and not a 'might have' to increase uptake. Something like the hoarding of loo roll at the start of the pandemic.
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First :-)
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26/02/2021 12:36:43 6 0
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That went well.
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26/02/2021 12:10:15 700 22
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A sensible approach. Vaccinate those most at risk first.
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26/02/2021 12:11:28 344 29
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Exactly, average age of a person on a ventilator at one point was 58. once the over 40's are all done (i.e. both vaccines) then i think its time for normality, or at least movement towards it
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26/02/2021 12:22:44 34 0
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Absolutely

Getting data and evidence on who does what profession will severely delay the program
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26/02/2021 12:26:40 8 25
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I think that the police have a valid case. You can't arrest from a social distance. Statistically some of the officers who have died from covid will have caught it while doing their duty and officers are regularly and increasingly being spat at. If 10,00, spread over the whole UK, were vaccinated each day they'd all be done in less that two weeks and that keeps them on the streets protecting us.
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26/02/2021 12:28:51 2 1
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Haven't we already done that?
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26/02/2021 12:38:03 9 4
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I agree except we should vaccinate politicians last. That might incentivise them to put the health of people above the interests of their rich mates.
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26/02/2021 12:44:06 3 6
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What the article is saying though is that all over 40s will be treated the same, so those most at risk are not getting it first
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26/02/2021 12:46:05 3 4
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Previously we have been told the only at risk groups were the elderly and those with health conditions. I suspect logistically it is far easier to go the age route, rather than identifying specific vocational groups and that is the sole reason for the choice.

Scientifically it would be more logical to vaccinate those vocational groups most likely to come into daily contact with CV19 carriers.
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26/02/2021 12:58:31 0 0
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Or a threat like complacent kids.
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26/02/2021 13:01:43 0 2
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hopefully the vaccinate all the school pupils
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26/02/2021 13:12:02 3 1
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Those most a risk remaining now are those front line staff who are forced to work in crowds of people.
26/02/2021 13:26:47 0 0
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Does the vaccine make you immune to the government and media propaganda? If so, sign me up!
26/02/2021 14:07:41 0 7
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Agreed

Teachers and supermarket workers should be top of the list

They are obviously are far greater risk than anyone just working at home
26/02/2021 14:23:32 1 2
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It would be nice if my wife who is 60 and asthmatic would get the call up but she hasn't and through social media knows of a few people that we healthy and in there 50s have been vaccinated, is it a case of whinging to your doctors all the time means you get it quicker
26/02/2021 14:26:20 0 2
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Obviously not the EU as they don't believe the vaccines work BUT they want to ban the UK receiving them. Merkel/Macron = FOURTH REICH! V for Victory over the Evil EC/EU!
26/02/2021 14:23:56 1 2
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We have. People in their 40s aren't at risk.
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26/02/2021 12:10:15 700 22
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A sensible approach. Vaccinate those most at risk first.
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26/02/2021 12:11:28 344 29
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Exactly, average age of a person on a ventilator at one point was 58. once the over 40's are all done (i.e. both vaccines) then i think its time for normality, or at least movement towards it
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26/02/2021 12:16:02 16 19
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What about those with a BMI over 30? …seems they are most at risk even though no one likes to say it out loud
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26/02/2021 12:21:56 9 14
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That is true for overall society. But don't forget that each case in an individual person. A 30yr old needing 3 months off work due to covid/long covid still matters. Personally I'd rather they prioritise doing all the 'high risk' people twice before moving down the list
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26/02/2021 13:08:14 2 2
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Let me guess, you're over 40
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26/02/2021 13:20:42 3 0
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Which is exactly what the plan is hence the lockdown release schedule
26/02/2021 14:18:20 0 1
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Normality?so people for example 41 has finished?you are ridiculous
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26/02/2021 12:11:35 3 0
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26/02/2021 12:11:52 176 4
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I'm sure there will be criticism about the teachers, however you cannot pick and choose when to 'follow the science'
Remember that any teachers who are in the 'At risk' groupings will already have moved up the line and be eligible for a vaccine.
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26/02/2021 12:15:52 189 10
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Teachers are statistically (like the police) no more at risk than the rest of us...leave it to the Independent JCVI which has done a spot on job so far....how typically British would it be to derail the one thing which has run hitherto extremely well !!
26/02/2021 13:20:04 6 3
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The science says schools classes should be halved, all kids should wear masks and there should be investment in proper ventilation. Do all that as America and Germany are doing and teachers could safely wait their turn.
26/02/2021 14:44:39 1 2
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The Government has spent a year picking and choosing which science to follow.
26/02/2021 17:37:20 1 0
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Is that what the government's doing. I suppose science is responsible for horrific death total but tory spin seems to be working well.
27/02/2021 10:58:38 0 0
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By the time we have worked out which professions are actually at greater risk than others we would have vaccinated all over 30s anyway. Each profession has their advocate and will compete with each other to persuade the government of their case. That's why we have the JCVI - independent of government.
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26/02/2021 12:12:03 5 1
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Why are you commenting on it then?
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26/02/2021 12:12:04 114 10
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Everyone jabbed is one less victim of covid keep up the good work
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26/02/2021 13:05:36 8 87
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You'll never prove that though.
26/02/2021 13:27:23 4 12
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But you're all victims of the government agenda. Well done
26/02/2021 13:30:04 4 1
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It's not as simple as that.
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26/02/2021 12:12:08 6 21
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Interesting, i would think people in the front line who are under 50 like:- teachers, supermarket workers, cust facing public transport staff and police/firemen should be given priority over all under 40's as a group.

They are after all more at risk of catching any virus let alone Covid.
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26/02/2021 12:14:52 0 0
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well think again cause we're in the front line and we're over 50
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26/02/2021 12:14:59 6 3
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Interesting that you assume that you know more about the risks than those who actually have data.
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26/02/2021 12:16:30 9 0
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Actually the facts and data say otherwise. Hence the decision by scientists who have ALL the info at their fingertips to not prioritize based on occupation.
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26/02/2021 12:27:15 3 0
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If everyone is a priority, no one is.
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26/02/2021 12:12:10 40 7
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I've just been jabbed (Nottingham in a relatively poor area). Very efficient, about ten nurses giving the vaccine and as it was Pfizer had a sit down in the rest area for 15 minutes with about 20 others. I didn't see a single BAME patient
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26/02/2021 12:13:37 11 46
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They were probably at work.
26/02/2021 15:00:22 2 4
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For which there could be a dozen reasons, so what is your point?
26/02/2021 15:06:00 1 1
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What is a bame?
26/02/2021 15:30:38 0 6
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The BAME aren't sheep that's why
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26/02/2021 12:12:18 16 17
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To be consistent, the title should be:

"Despite Brexit, Over-40s next in line to get a Covid vaccine"
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26/02/2021 12:19:24 2 0
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In that case everyone should be thanking the Over 40s.
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26/02/2021 12:12:24 25 33
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Unless there is a good medical reason, the vaccination should be compulsary and it should be accompanied by a vaccination certificate.
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26/02/2021 12:16:52 19 4
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Do you have any idea how this would open the door in terms of Government taking controls and decisions out an individuals hand? You can't simply make vaccines compulsory any more than you can make exercise or healthy eating compulsory. Very dangerous precedent being suggested here.
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26/02/2021 12:17:08 2 4
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That will not happen in Bojo's "we brits love our freedom" world.
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26/02/2021 12:23:46 5 6
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Never compulsory. What if 5 years down the line millions start to develop some strange reaction to these vaccines and start dying? All of our medical staff are in the group vaccinated and first to be affected! What then? You don't mass medicate everyone, you need a population that aren't vaccinated as a safety net. Humans mess with nature and nature will bite us back.
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26/02/2021 12:24:43 7 3
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No vaccine should be compulsory. I am not an anti-vaxxer, vaccines have saved many lives, but they have never been compulsory in this country as far as I'm aware. People should have a choice as to what they have put into their bodies.
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26/02/2021 13:15:52 3 0
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Compulsory vaccinations would be at the start of a slippery slope. With regards to certification, my wife has received her first jab this week and was given a card which details which vaccine, batch number and date, I believe everybody gets these. This should satisfy that need and act as proof if required.
26/02/2021 13:48:22 2 1
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Nice idea - Adolf
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26/02/2021 12:12:34 13 9
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"Mild" asthmatics are still being left behind despite being at increased risk of Long Covid and other complications...
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26/02/2021 12:12:42 5 1
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Because it affects tens of millions of us?
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26/02/2021 12:12:47 239 16
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Good, this is the most sensible, logical and quickest way to do it.
Cue moaning from teachers.
However, how can you justify a 25yo teacher receiving a vaccine before a 49yo supermarket worker.
Data and science says age is the most important factor, above occupation, so let's do it that way.
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26/02/2021 12:18:20 23 184
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How about teachers and supermarkets workers first? Before those just at home. It’s the risk fo them spreading as much as the risk to them
26/02/2021 13:57:34 4 2
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And being Male. Sure if it was females at greater risk they would get invited 1st fir vaccine in each age group. Around twice as many males have covid serious
26/02/2021 15:21:09 6 1
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I'm not moaning. I'm a teacher. This is by far the most obvious and sensible way to do it. Teaching unions moan about practically everything, even as a teacher its tiresome, it also gives us a bad reputation. They actually decided that a portion of my membership money would go to a "political fund" a few years back unless I opted out. I was not impressed.
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26/02/2021 12:10:24 393 28
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Please change the headline. It is going to sow confusion. It seems to suggest that Over40s are being called up now when this is not the case.
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26/02/2021 12:17:27 36 5
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I agree - I logged in specifically to check this after seeing the headline on teletext. I'm over 50 and worried that my useless GP will forget to invite me for vaccination...
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26/02/2021 12:26:24 14 26
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You are completely right on that - despite some smart Alec making a rude comment to you - it does suggest that- I'm 55 and haven't even got a date yet! This is Government propaganda trying to make themselves look like they are doing better than they actually are! But it must be working because 'just say no to drugs' wasn't confused because he isn't an idiot! hmmmmm....
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26/02/2021 12:30:08 8 18
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It actually uses the word 'next.' What do you not understand by the word 'next'?
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26/02/2021 12:42:48 8 0
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Many in their 50s still waiting to be asked for their first vaccination so 40s and under will be waiting for a while yet.
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26/02/2021 12:42:49 4 9
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Really? I'm 44 and in the last half hour have just received my invite (which I've booked). As have others I know in the same age bracket received theirs today.
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26/02/2021 12:44:59 4 1
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Indeed. I'm over 55 and still waiting, though it should be around March/April when my turn comes.
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26/02/2021 12:35:07 8 1
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Typical BBC clickbait - worse than the News of the World used to be....
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26/02/2021 12:38:49 1 10
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Behave yaself lol it clearly says over 40s NEXT AFTER CURRENT REGIME ffs
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26/02/2021 12:50:26 8 2
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What do you expect from the BBC. . . . no better than a fleet street red top nowadays
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26/02/2021 12:56:21 4 5
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But over 40s are about to be called up 'next' Very soon in some places. I turned 50 last month and received my first dose last week.
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26/02/2021 13:01:59 0 4
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Nice to see they have a British Chines professor advising now
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26/02/2021 13:06:03 3 0
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The Headline has now been changed.
26/02/2021 13:17:05 7 2
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Absolutely, they haven't started on the over 60s yet.

It's a deliberately misleading headline to make it seem the vaccination programme is going even better than it really is.
26/02/2021 13:55:40 0 1
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Ha Ha Ha the BBC have a realistic Headline..... LOL
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The BBC use click bait and its clearly worked again.
26/02/2021 17:37:49 0 2
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Yes they are being called up. My brother last week - 46, fit as a fiddle. Myself, 48, fit as a fiddle - had it today.
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26/02/2021 12:13:10 249 33
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Well we may not have a World beating Test and Trace but we definitely have a European beating vaccination programme!
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26/02/2021 12:15:35 122 285
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And death rate...and economic hit.

Woohoo
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26/02/2021 12:21:08 31 44
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We do - but do you Brexiteers have to keep hanging on to the only anti-EU story left. How about this one: leaving the EU will have a -6% effect on our economy; getting a trade deal with the USA will have a +0.18% effect.

Covid won't be a big threat forever but the the stupid Brexit effect will!
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26/02/2021 12:29:00 12 31
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Pathetic comment - par for the right.
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26/02/2021 12:43:16 17 23
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Yeah! Let’s spout nationalist drivel and conveniently ignore the fact that we have a gov whose incompetence has added around 40,000 to UK deaths. Those lovely humane Brexiters are maintaining their hypocritical gutter standards.
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26/02/2021 12:45:24 5 11
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But we do have a World beating T&T.
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26/02/2021 13:04:01 3 6
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World beating economic disaster, but don't worry we'll guess what results the education system produced, and we'll print some more money.
26/02/2021 14:19:45 3 1
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Yes you do, for now. I am happy for you because I have precious family and friends in England. Anyone who gets a vaccine is a plus for the World. As an English person living in France (I would not change) I have to look at this as a game that has played for 10 minutes and until 90 minutes + extra time is played there is no result! Stay safe.
26/02/2021 14:21:57 3 0
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Test and trace working well it's the people on the end of the phone that refuse to use it
26/02/2021 15:08:49 1 1
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Please however remember that - if any of us want to safely go on holiday to any other country in Europe soon - that we need the other European countries to speed up their vaccination programs.
26/02/2021 15:33:30 2 3
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We're also very much getting a world beating dictatorship government as well
Highest number of deaths of any EU nation

4th highest number of deaths per population of any nation on earth

Worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

But if you were dumb enough to vote for Brexit Joe then you are probably dumb enough to think that this is a success for the UK
26/02/2021 16:18:29 2 2
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The EU are showing what a complete shambles they are. Slow moving, dithering and flat out incompetent leadership.

#betteroffout.
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26/02/2021 16:56:48 0 1
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Just a shame we needed one to get us out of the mess we're in!
26/02/2021 17:35:14 0 1
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Figures wouldn't look as good if the Govt had followed manufacturers recommendations. Half of 18mill doesn't make the same headlines.
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26/02/2021 12:13:10 4 24
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Why is this government not balancing risk with everyone in lockdown?

Give the most vulnerable the most effective vaccine and the least vulnerable the least effective vaccine ....

That is why the EU and others are not giving the AZN vaccine to over 65s ... I would think.
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26/02/2021 12:16:18 11 1
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A recent study showed the AZ vaccine to be more effective at preventing serious illness than the Pfizer vaccine. There was not a lot in it mind, both above 90%
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26/02/2021 12:22:10 1 0
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Try to keep up.

The EU have already had to backtrack on their false claims that the Astra Zeneca vaccine is not effective to the over 65's but to their own detriment, the damage has already been done.

Macron should be removed from his post for spreading false information and now causing absolute chaos with the EU vaccine programme.
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26/02/2021 12:26:01 2 0
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Effectiveness is not yet established but they are all pretty good. The anti-AZ non-news was down to not being tested on over 65s but in pracice it is proving to be very effectivein that group. Even macron said he'd have it!
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26/02/2021 12:27:38 3 0
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You assume an unrealistic degree of sense behind the E.U. decision. There is insufficient difference between the vaccines to consider one better than another.
26/02/2021 13:34:49 0 1
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Maybe because the whole thing is a farce and you're falling for it?
26/02/2021 15:34:27 0 3
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Because the risk is miniscule. It's flu but with a new name
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26/02/2021 12:13:14 20 0
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Sounds fair enough to me.
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26/02/2021 12:13:16 4 14
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What happened to the over 50s?

I'm 55 next week and not been called up for my 1st yet! Or are 50+ not getting it? ??
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26/02/2021 12:15:27 2 7
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same here, 55 couple weeks ago, not heard anything.
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26/02/2021 12:17:19 2 0
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Read the article, by the end of April.
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26/02/2021 12:21:18 4 0
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By mid April. They started on 65-69 plus those with underlying health condition only last week. Give it chance. The roll out is very fast, not supersonic!
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26/02/2021 12:24:35 1 0
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You will be at the end of Phase 1 as detailed in the artivle above!
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26/02/2021 12:23:35 1 0
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50+ will be getting it, as detailed in the breakdown table from Feb to mid April. The JVCI have basically broken down the last rollout which initially said all remaining adults so this now will be in 3 stages, sensible decision to work through the ages of all remaining adults. Being in the 40+ bracket, I won't get mine until the current group have all finished but it's nice to know when :)
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26/02/2021 12:56:20 2 0
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It depends on your postcode as to how fast it is being rolled out. I’m 60 and had mine this week. I was very impressed with the efficiency at our local vaccination centre. If the supply holds up, you will be very soon.
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26/02/2021 12:13:26 12 7
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Surely 2nd Vaccine for those genuinely at risk would be wiser...
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26/02/2021 12:17:39 5 0
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they have started having them now
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26/02/2021 12:19:56 2 0
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That is being done at the same time, hence the numbers receiving their second vaccine has increased in recent days
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26/02/2021 12:26:08 2 1
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2nd vaccines will follow the already established 12 week roll out so I do not see your point.
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26/02/2021 12:13:28 10 22
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Question is why discrimination amongst various groups of Frontline workers? Teachers have kept your kids at school and are essential to get the economy going, while the Police have been enforcing the lockdown so that we can all come out of this mess created by the government. Yet we do not recognise their risks and their sacrifice! Long live GB!
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The government hate both.
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26/02/2021 12:21:45 6 0
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Because the science shows they are no more at risk than the general population.
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26/02/2021 12:25:31 3 0
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Those making this decision have the relevant data on which to base it showing real risk factors rather than presumed risk.
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26/02/2021 12:27:43 0 4
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I haven't seen a single police officer on foot, enforcing lockdown - only speeding about in patrol cars. If they had enforced lockdown last spring/summer then perhaps we could have been allowed our freedom quicker. For example, if officers had patrolled the city centre, ensuring shops and restaurants were Covid secure then perhaps those places could have remained open.
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26/02/2021 12:52:04 0 2
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What about the bus drivers the shop worker delivery drivers, people making vaccines scientists, manufacturers of ppe, and many others who have worked through this they should be first to
26/02/2021 13:30:12 1 0
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Why do some always have to look for 'offence' or 'discrimination' when none has been implied or carried out. I sometimes wonder if folk like yourself get offended by your own shadow. If it helps, and to join your club, I am offended that you get offended by everything.
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26/02/2021 12:12:10 40 7
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I've just been jabbed (Nottingham in a relatively poor area). Very efficient, about ten nurses giving the vaccine and as it was Pfizer had a sit down in the rest area for 15 minutes with about 20 others. I didn't see a single BAME patient
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26/02/2021 12:13:37 11 46
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They were probably at work.
26/02/2021 16:11:22 4 0
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Unlikely. What is more likely is the fierce and unjustifiable resistance of BAME people to have the vaccination.
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26/02/2021 12:13:47 7 3
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where we are the over-50's haven't even been started or got appts
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26/02/2021 12:16:19 11 0
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The target date is the end of April, in my calculation that is 2 months to go.
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26/02/2021 12:16:44 4 0
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Not entirely true, some over 50’s where I am have had or have been contacted to have their vaccine. The aim is that all us over 50’s will be sorted by end June, Have patience.
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26/02/2021 12:19:25 2 0
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They're in the plan already. This is talking about when the first 9 categories have been done.
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26/02/2021 12:19:38 4 0
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Over 50's will be done before mid April. Thats 6 weeks away. They are just completing the over 65's. Give it chance!
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26/02/2021 12:31:40 0 1
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I'm glad I'm not the only one asking that question!
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26/02/2021 12:13:48 276 25
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Sensible choice. I don't think I've actually heard any teachers or key workers saying they deserve the vaccine above others. Just more false reporting
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26/02/2021 12:16:53 197 16
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Some unions have.
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26/02/2021 12:33:06 4 45
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No one has ever, ever said teachers ‘deserve’ it - but it’s logical that they get PRIORITY. How many of the smug !?&£@ spouting against this have to mingle with 500 kids each day?! Logistics excuses are rubbish- schools could be visited by mobile units.
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26/02/2021 12:36:43 9 3
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It’s not false reporting. Look at the comments from Ken Marsh in the article.
Just as another example, this petition is at nearly 13k signatures: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/567308

It’s an emotive subject. When people are being placed at risk all the time by their occupation, they will want protection. (For what it’s worth, I nonetheless agree with the Government’s strategy.)
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26/02/2021 12:59:04 0 13
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Really isn't anything sensible about ANY government covid policies.
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26/02/2021 13:06:46 15 0
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Just their unions trying to score political points.
26/02/2021 13:22:43 3 0
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I personally know some teachers who have, maybe they’re a minority though
26/02/2021 13:34:38 4 0
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I spoke to a teacher last week who believes they should be prioritised above others. The unions have a lot to answer for
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26/02/2021 12:13:55 329 16
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Another properly considered decision by this committee, and well done to the government for listening to them and not to the myriad self-interested groups who think that they should be treated better than others.
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Most teachers are between 40 and 65 and they not the workers most at risk
26/02/2021 15:10:53 1 1
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best comment ever.
26/02/2021 16:18:22 11 2
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The teaching unions, not teachers, and Police Federation can't actually produce any evidence that they are more at risk than anyone else in their year groups. the JCVI can produce evidence to support their view that by age is still the best way for everyone.
26/02/2021 17:33:07 2 0
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Nobody more self interested than this government. Still you won't have noticed.
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26/02/2021 12:14:02 9 15
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It seems crazy that they're sending kids back without vaccinating teachers.

Especially when home based, telesales staff (of various ages...most 20's) at my former employer have all had the vaccine purely because its a pharma distributor!
169
26/02/2021 12:23:55 2 0
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Whilst I understand that it may seem crazy to you, fortunately the decision is made by those who have the relevant data to consider.
29
26/02/2021 12:14:08 105 20
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While I have some sympathy for police officers who often can't work in a covid-secure way, this is the only logical approach - but presume this HYS is just here for the teaching unions to have a moan?
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26/02/2021 12:33:24 43 9
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I agree. The police are worried they are spreading it to the vulnerable. The teachers are worried they are vulnerable. Talk to a teacher and they say it’s been harder working from home. Really? I’d argue it’s harder continuing working going into peoples houses who are confirmed to have it then next call going to an old persons house. They’re always the worst affected.
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kh
26/02/2021 13:06:52 0 1
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Some police have been vaccinated in my area.
26/02/2021 13:21:43 0 2
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How Covid secure is a classroom? An epidemiologist Dr Gurdasani made clear that the Scottish precautions are seriously inadequate.
RPH
26/02/2021 14:00:06 5 1
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Thaks for writing 'teaching unions' not 'teachers'. There is a world of difference.....
me
26/02/2021 16:58:30 0 2
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When teachers return to work, they will not be working i anything even approaching a covid secure way!
30
26/02/2021 12:14:08 3 10
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Given that that tens of thousands of 18-21 year olds will be moving around the country and between the UK nations in September, it makes sense to ensure they've had a second jab before university term starts. If they are last it will be a logistical nightmare getting them their second jab in a completely different location.
155
26/02/2021 12:22:50 1 0
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Whilst I see your point, I am sure the NHS Will be able to cope.
26/02/2021 13:50:59 1 0
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How many students do you know who have died because of (not with) Covid-19? Because I can tell you only 388 people under the age of 60 have died within 28 days of having a positive PCR test
31
26/02/2021 12:14:11 3 6
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Not much information on second vaccines. The 12 week promise approaches in April.
262
26/02/2021 12:29:29 1 0
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As of yesterday 26/02/21 700.718 have had there second jab
310
26/02/2021 12:26:46 1 0
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When you book your first jab you also book your second one. The government doesn't need to update on when second jabs are happening because they already are.
32
26/02/2021 12:14:18 8 8
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I think the point being however, is that if a school has a lot of staff off then it will have to close - the vaccine for teachers will help keep the schools open, which is what we all want.
110
26/02/2021 12:20:30 6 0
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Except it won’t - it’ll stop people with it going into hospital. Won’t stop them having to isolate etc.
829
26/02/2021 13:04:53 1 0
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Nope, mass testing of school staff is going to be in place so if they do catch it after vaccination they will still have to self isolate for 10 days, as we still don’t know the effect on transmission if you have been vaccinated but then later test positive.
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26/02/2021 12:14:24 498 34
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Regardless of your political persuasions, this is a phenomenal achievement for the United Kingdom. Well done to everyone who has organised this to happen. Never seen ever before, and hopefully never again. But just goes to show what an amazing country we live it. The Government & NHS has done us all proud - look around the world, there's very few places in this same fast lane - UK We Love You!
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26/02/2021 12:24:44 170 131
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All thanks to Matt's team.
184
26/02/2021 12:25:24 32 68
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This is a joke.. Right?
224
26/02/2021 12:27:19 59 22
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Well the NHS has done us proud - thankfully Matt left it to them instead of asking Dido or his next door but one neighbour to get involved.
227
26/02/2021 12:27:32 51 63
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NHS Has done a good job.

As for the Gov? Are you serios? One of the worst death rates in world, worst hit economy in G7. They've done well with vaccine but have took risks in doing so.
242
26/02/2021 12:28:21 46 52
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The NHS has done us proud, not the government. We have one of the highest death rates per capita in the world. It will be a shameful blight on this country’s record for the rest of history. I know you’re trying to be upbeat but don’t get clouded vision about government performance.
293
26/02/2021 12:30:48 38 3
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I not sure, but are the army sorting out a lot. Big thank you to them as well.
WELL SAID mate
307
26/02/2021 12:31:38 29 59
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NHS excellent government 130000 deaths world beating
391
26/02/2021 12:35:40 25 33
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Yup, great.... and I’m sure the people spouting this line were equally vocal at the deadly serial incompetence that delivered one of the highest death rates in the world... yes?? Thought not.
417
26/02/2021 12:36:37 28 28
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To those thumbs downing, why don't you go forth and multiply somewhere else?
544
26/02/2021 12:44:25 16 26
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The NHS and volunteers have done an awesome job, however i can think of 110,000 reasons why Johnson, his government and those profiteering from his corrupt acts need to be in the dock.
552
26/02/2021 12:45:04 15 20
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The NHS and local healthcare staff have done very well. Not sure how much it is due to the government though.
635
26/02/2021 12:49:56 23 3
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Spot on. The government has got a lot wrong but the vaccination roll out has been spectacular so far. It has been a monumental effort and collaboration between so many public and private sector areas to achieve and as a government they should take some credit. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate this is clearly a bitter waste of space or doesn’t understand what is involved logistically.
757
26/02/2021 12:53:18 6 3
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Very well said Dizzyflower! I couldn't have put it better myself!!
886
26/02/2021 13:03:40 3 8
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Well the countries that have zero covid have done amazing ..China New Zealand
26/02/2021 15:26:33 2 4
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World beating death rate!
26/02/2021 15:58:46 3 3
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Thanks Nhs for coping with Bojos ineptitude,leaves me with my head in my hands when people view 120000 plus dead a success story and before you start we are in the top 10 country's in the world for death rate theres no excusing him and his government.
26/02/2021 16:28:14 2 2
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Could not agree more. And it is all the more shocking that while Covid is in the news & headlines, our national health services are being undermined more and more. Even to the extent that a US health insurance corporation has bought up a bunch of London GP practices.
26/02/2021 16:55:31 4 4
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122,000 dead. Perhaps not so well done after all.
dai
26/02/2021 17:06:18 2 4
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Lets not forget the deaths the Government's incompetence has caused when they acted too late too often. Johnson putting his liberty mates before health. Its a good ting re the vaccine, but keep it in perceptive
,
26/02/2021 17:20:51 3 4
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Another comment based on facts. Govt done us proud. You are joking. No wonder the UK is falling apart. By the way who is responsible for bad decisions and 120,000 deaths. Really don't know why I answer such politically biased comments.
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26/02/2021 12:14:36 434 76
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Do the teaching unions ever give it a rest?
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26/02/2021 12:16:07 358 67
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No!! They are always moaning.
63
26/02/2021 12:16:45 4 10
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Try being more fragile!
90
26/02/2021 12:18:59 32 27
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approaching 12 months of rest for some of them.
130
26/02/2021 12:21:33 33 17
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No!! They are always moaning
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26/02/2021 12:20:31 37 15
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No. Never, ever. It’s kind of like where we were with the miners and Scargill etc at the end of the 70’s/early 80’s but with teaching unions instead. The miners unions held us to ransom by threatening to freeze us all and the teachers unions do similar threats but with the education of the nation’s children. What we desperately need is a modern day Iron Lady. Sadly, no hope whatsoever for that.
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26/02/2021 12:46:28 2 1
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No all 9 of them.
26/02/2021 13:29:40 1 1
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Only in Scotland and Wales it seems. Perhaps this has something to do with who is in Government ?
xlr
26/02/2021 14:25:37 10 8
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Do gammons ever give it a rest with their completely wrong stereotypes about teachers and unions?
26/02/2021 14:26:10 10 7
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What do you expect from a leftie union. Long story short, unions don't want to work, while being paid handsomely not to work.
26/02/2021 15:50:58 1 4
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If they did, they wouldn't be doing their job.

The biggest reason by far why this country is such a mess is decades of the democractic voice of the working class has been ignored and even suppressed.

The unions have giving it far too much rest for far too long, we need action and we need it now.
26/02/2021 16:37:39 5 5
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I am going to ask my daughter if she would like to start a children's union so her and her classmates can start moaning about teaching unions. Nobody from a teaching union ever seems to actually talk about whats best for children.
26/02/2021 17:09:09 2 2
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I'm sure many diligent teachers do not agree with the Unions and their left wing agenda in the slightest . Teaching Unions would only be happy if all their members got a pay rise and didn't have to work at all. Kind of defeats the point of having teachers.....
26/02/2021 17:59:47 2 1
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Yes they do

After 3:30 every week day and weekends
26/02/2021 23:22:49 0 0
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No, because the teaching union leaderships are primarily motivated by (leftwing) politics, rather than the interests of their members and the children they teach.
27/02/2021 21:24:52 0 0
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No, because they are not capable of reading the room.
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26/02/2021 12:14:38 6 7
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On a selfish front I'm very happy as I just missed the original top ten groups.
Gutted for my daughter who's a teacher though. Hopefully the supply will increase enabling everyone to have the option of taking it sooner rather than later.
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26/02/2021 12:14:39 8 20
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If teachers are not considered priority it somewhat contradicts "the science" which said schools were not safe and should be closed.
But there again "the science" also couldn't quite make up it's mind about masks for six months and also regards 2 people on a windy golf course as a risk to the nation's health.
59
26/02/2021 12:16:29 14 4
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The science has always said schools are safe. That message has never changed
1
26/02/2021 12:09:38 7 8
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I think this was the only way possible to do it, though they could have considered doing the youngest next as the largest spreader when the really at risk groups have been completed.
37
26/02/2021 12:14:46 8 7
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But even after vaccination there is no evidence that it will stop you spreading the virus.
280
26/02/2021 12:30:26 5 4
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This is not true.
26/02/2021 13:25:29 1 1
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Shah... you're talking sense. The sheep don't like sense
26/02/2021 14:36:55 4 1
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But there is a lot of evidence that you will be less likely to be ill, and much less likely to spread the virus.
Mr
26/02/2021 16:49:38 0 0
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When the young people have it, they will be too ill to spread anything based on my daughters horrendous experience
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26/02/2021 12:13:28 10 22
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Question is why discrimination amongst various groups of Frontline workers? Teachers have kept your kids at school and are essential to get the economy going, while the Police have been enforcing the lockdown so that we can all come out of this mess created by the government. Yet we do not recognise their risks and their sacrifice! Long live GB!
38
26/02/2021 12:14:51 4 11
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The government hate both.
10
26/02/2021 12:12:08 6 21
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Interesting, i would think people in the front line who are under 50 like:- teachers, supermarket workers, cust facing public transport staff and police/firemen should be given priority over all under 40's as a group.

They are after all more at risk of catching any virus let alone Covid.
39
26/02/2021 12:14:52 0 0
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well think again cause we're in the front line and we're over 50
40
26/02/2021 12:14:57 10 3
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The statistics on proportion of age group vaccinated is amazing - this places the anti-vaccination movement to a less than minority interest group.

I think that once >60% of the overall population is vaccinated, COVID is dead. So once we get to 40M vaccines (it is the end of February now and so no more than 3 months time) - the deaths and hospitalisations will amount to double digit figures.
298
26/02/2021 12:31:06 2 0
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The herd immunity percentage is (I believe) related to what is needed to keep the effective R number below 1 with no restrictions. R was naturally 3.5 or something which meant about 70% herd immunity needed to never rise above 1 on average. With the new variant bumping that up to 4.0 or so it means a bit more so maybe 75% coverage needed?
360
26/02/2021 12:33:43 0 0
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"Dead." I wish you were right but not sure of your qualification, so I'll wait to get it from a known expert before I relax my guard.
524
26/02/2021 12:43:25 1 1
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An additional point - by ONS estimates at least 20m people have had the infection. Amidst hundreds of millions of cases worldwide there is little evidence of repeat infection.

We're being terrorised now by the idea of a new variant, which does not yet exist, for which there are no historical precedents, that is going to evade both treatment and millions of years evolution of immune responses.
668
26/02/2021 12:52:37 1 0
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Covid won't be dead. Once the world gets on top of it it will just be around us more like flu has been.. flaring up at times, always mutating. We just keep vaccinating those that need it, live with it and accept more people will die of it. And it's not me saying this (well it is in this post, obviously), it's the scientists
26/02/2021 13:16:37 1 0
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Covide is not going anywhere it will be a seasonal thing
10
26/02/2021 12:12:08 6 21
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Interesting, i would think people in the front line who are under 50 like:- teachers, supermarket workers, cust facing public transport staff and police/firemen should be given priority over all under 40's as a group.

They are after all more at risk of catching any virus let alone Covid.
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26/02/2021 12:14:59 6 3
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Interesting that you assume that you know more about the risks than those who actually have data.
42
26/02/2021 12:15:02 18 7
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A dozen comments and no anti-vax idiots or conspiracy theorists. Incoming in 1,2,3...
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26/02/2021 12:32:13 2 1
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Check out the white wizard further down - though they seem a bit thin on the ground today...
834
26/02/2021 13:05:29 4 0
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Remember, it works the other way round too. If mainstream media stated tomorrow that blue masks work better than red masks, half the population will be donning blue masks on the weekend without questioning it, chiding those without as 'science-deniers' and 'conspiracy theorists'. Keep an open mind.
976
26/02/2021 13:12:11 2 0
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their comments get removed ...no freedom of speech by the Beeb
26/02/2021 13:53:13 1 1
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I’ve had vaccines before. But I’m not stupid enough to have an experimental MRNA vaccine that has been rattled through clinical trials at Warp-speed. It’s ironic that the people forcing the jab on other people are indeed themselves the idiots, blissfully unaware of how vaccines work and how long the take to develop safely.
Why are we having a HYS on this? Removed
43
26/02/2021 12:15:04 4 0
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Because it's an exciting event.
44
26/02/2021 12:15:20 1681 87
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As a teacher i fully support this, teaching unions don't speak for a lot of teachers over this. Doing vaccinations by different groups will just have people squabbling which group is more important, if we went by that route it would see the roll out slow right down as vulnerable people made to wait just so a healthy teacher or policeman can get the jab, this is the way.
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26/02/2021 12:18:15 687 42
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A sensible comment at last!!
158
26/02/2021 12:23:09 87 3
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This is the way
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rob
26/02/2021 12:21:53 51 185
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I'm also a teacher - I'm in my late 50's with a heart condition and am expected to go back to school before being vaccinated - I disagree with you.
221
26/02/2021 12:27:16 132 10
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To be fair....I don't think most people judge our hard working teachers based on the rantings of the NUT.
241
26/02/2021 12:28:17 88 14
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Yes , no reason for teachers or police or any other group to be prioritised...glad you agree.
258
26/02/2021 12:29:00 55 7
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Well said
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26/02/2021 12:30:42 189 12
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I too am a teacher and fully agree with you. For once, I fully support what the government is doing and they seem to be doing it well. I feel that the unions have been a bit hysterical throughout the whole COVID crisis to be honest.
317
26/02/2021 12:32:04 82 7
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We need more normal sensible teachers speaking out to counter the media chasing for a quote only the bad elements and unions as more sensational and 'news worthy'.
332
26/02/2021 12:32:30 25 4
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This is the way. If more teachers refused to take off their helmets then there wouldn't be a problem.
358
26/02/2021 12:33:41 19 3
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Well said.....
523
26/02/2021 12:43:22 36 0
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I agree. If we had the technical ability to pull out people with what I would call 'multi-touch' jobs (blue-light etc) then that would be the clever way to go. However sometimes it is just faster to keep it simple and 'hammer though it'. Keeping in mind here, the planning is for the population not the individual. We seam to be doing pretty well with the vaccinations, lets not over complicate it.
527
26/02/2021 12:43:36 49 0
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Well said.

I see one of the the Teaching Unions has said the Government needs to make a policy decision on this i.e. override the advice. The same people who have regularly attacked the Government for not following their advisers advice in the past.
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26/02/2021 12:44:14 6 60
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I suspect you're not a teacher and that this is just our daily dose of Tory HYS conditioning.

Previously we have been told the only at risk groups were the elderly and those with health conditions. I suspect logistically it is far easier to go the age route, rather than identifying specific vocational groups and that is the sole reason for the choice.
543
26/02/2021 12:44:19 33 0
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Pistol, I agree with your comment 100%. It's not that I think teachers shouldn't be vaccinated quickly, it's just a question of getting it rolled out as soon and as efficiently as possible.

Any 'complications' are just going to slow down the rollout, which so far has been impressively efficient (credit to all involved for that!) Arguments about who 'needs' it most will just slow things down.
547
26/02/2021 12:44:49 28 0
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Good stance - we will all be done within months anyway. The squabble is over a week here and there.
595
26/02/2021 12:47:12 4 42
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Personally I think teachers should be a priority so kids can go back to school and there are no arguments against it. Although schools have always been a cesspool of disease. My work colleague was always catching the flu from his son and bringing it into the office. As much as I haven't liked this lock down, it's nice not to have caught any viruses for a change. Also vaccines will never be 100%.
623
26/02/2021 12:49:04 1 1
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Spoken like a true Mandalorian. . . .
678
26/02/2021 12:53:34 7 22
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I see the logic in what you are saying, however our children are being blamed for spreading the virus and have subsequently had their education disrupted for a year and will do for years to come. Therefore would it not be sensible to offer teachers and schoolworkers the vaccine if they want to take it now? i would gladly give up my place in line for this to happen.
683
26/02/2021 12:53:58 15 3
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Respect for speakign out for the silent majority.
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26/02/2021 12:54:43 6 27
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Who will look out for teachers interests more...the Unions or Boris and his pals?...mmm let me think
813
26/02/2021 13:03:15 12 1
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Every life is important. No life is more important than any other. Extending the phase 1 approach of prioritising based on risk of hospitalisation and of dying is the only objective approach.

Health & social care workers were not prioritised for their own sakes, but to reduce the risk of passing the virus on to vulnerable people they are caring for, some of whom can't have the vaccine.
821
26/02/2021 13:04:10 6 0
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I have to agree. I am also a teacher but the speed of roll out is critical in this case.
869
26/02/2021 13:01:22 2 17
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they need to do the full covid vaccine roll out in all schools
878
26/02/2021 13:07:43 8 3
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Also my sister and her husband are both teachers, middle-aged, 50 years old. Her husband caught COVID, but recovered at home with no problems. She never keen caught it despite living with him. Had they been vaccinated - it would have taken a dose away from an older person much more at risk. Risk is ages squared - it ramps up rapidly with age.
45
26/02/2021 12:15:21 62 1
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Logistically this is the best way to do it
All staff in front line services who are most at risk will then be protected.
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26/02/2021 12:24:10 17 58
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I have to disagree with the comment all front line staff are protected. The police wanted vaccinated as priority due to potentially being super spreaders. They go into old people’s homes with little to no protection sometimes due to circumstances. But hey ho, it’s their job right? They’re not in the NHS, right? Who cares, Right? I do agree this is the simplest way to do it though.
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26/02/2021 12:13:16 4 14
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What happened to the over 50s?

I'm 55 next week and not been called up for my 1st yet! Or are 50+ not getting it? ??
46
26/02/2021 12:15:27 2 7
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same here, 55 couple weeks ago, not heard anything.
197
26/02/2021 12:25:42 1 0
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In our area they are well started on the 65-69 group, you (and I) will have to wait a little yet.
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Joe
26/02/2021 12:13:10 249 33
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Well we may not have a World beating Test and Trace but we definitely have a European beating vaccination programme!
47
26/02/2021 12:15:35 122 285
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And death rate...and economic hit.

Woohoo
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Joe
26/02/2021 12:17:07 27 20
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Awww is someone huffing that your platform to attention seek for the past 11 months is going away?
361
26/02/2021 12:33:44 25 6
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If you research you will read many credible reports (including from medical staff and people working in the Coroner's Office) that the UK are over estimating the number of deaths from Covid. Right at the beginning of the pandemic I was told that Covid had been put on a death certificate to avoid a post mortum.

Having a positive test does not imply that someone died from Covid.
26/02/2021 13:18:44 5 5
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This is now officialy a populist country, discussions are not based on rational thought, rather they are now based on an individuals personal agenda. Don't be offended by any downvotes, people's thinking has been altered by politicians and newspapers for years to think this way.
26/02/2021 13:40:16 4 2
bbc
Bame %, obesity %, age demographics, openness of economy, etc - yet your sole focus is on policy impacts of which you have no way of proving causation.
26/02/2021 14:24:00 4 2
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You should do a bit of research before you comment and criticise using the words 'death rate'. Several reasons amongst which is the totally inaccurate most of Europe records it's deaths. And thanks to our efficient vaccination programme our economy will be recovering much sooner than EU
26/02/2021 14:25:32 3 1
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Too early for this type of comparison as its not over yet.
26/02/2021 15:32:30 1 3
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People disagreeing with fact. Gotta love it
26/02/2021 15:34:41 2 2
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5 European states have higher death rates.
15 have higher infection rates.

Both are overall from the beginning.

The past month has seen the UK move down both lists by a significant margin for recent infections & deaths.
26/02/2021 17:35:48 0 0
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Wasting your breath with blinkered UK.
26/02/2021 21:46:37 0 0
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Our death rate is partly a function of our over reliance on the service sector and too many obese and unhealthy people, which is nothing to do with 'disadvantage' or lack of money, it's linked to poor attitude and not taking responsibility but its all too easy to say throw money at it rather than tackle the root cause.
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26/02/2021 12:11:52 176 4
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I'm sure there will be criticism about the teachers, however you cannot pick and choose when to 'follow the science'
Remember that any teachers who are in the 'At risk' groupings will already have moved up the line and be eligible for a vaccine.
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26/02/2021 12:15:52 189 10
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Teachers are statistically (like the police) no more at risk than the rest of us...leave it to the Independent JCVI which has done a spot on job so far....how typically British would it be to derail the one thing which has run hitherto extremely well !!
Jim
26/02/2021 13:50:25 3 1
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The risk is based on the impact of what happens if they catch Covid when it should also be considering the likelihood of catching Covid in the first place. For Teachers and Police and anyone unable to work from home and public facing that likelihood of catching Covid must be significantly higher.
26/02/2021 17:38:57 2 0
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Teaching thousands of kids and police not at risk is a stupid comment. I would retire from both and leave it to the know alls such as you.
26/02/2021 19:14:08 1 0
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The reason that teachers are no more at risk currently is that the data is based on the period when most pupils weren't at school. Bit of common sense needed I think
49
26/02/2021 12:15:53 9 0
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Over 50's are more at risk as once you get past 50, even being healthy, you are then more at risk of developing other things like heart disease, diabetes etc and you can't deal with stress as well as you did when younger.
50
26/02/2021 12:15:55 416 6
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I can see the argument for prioritising certain occupations like the police and teachers. But should a fit 25 year old teacher be vaccinated sooner than a 49 year shop assistant for example?
Trying to work out a simple priority list would be horrendously complicated.
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26/02/2021 12:20:27 129 202
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Why do the police need priority? They're not frontline health workers and they certainly aren't educators.

They have as little social interaction as possible so I don't know why they would need priority over say someone in a manufacturing or construction job who can't work from home.
465
26/02/2021 12:39:39 6 44
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What’s ‘horrendously comlicated’ about spotting which workers mix with 1000 kids every day??
642
26/02/2021 12:43:44 11 8
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It's not about the risk of dying to those occupations, it's about business as normal. Teachers all sick or isolating means kids at home, which has a knock on effect to all parents. I'm sure you can work out why a lack of police is a bad idea. You can't do front line policing from your own sofa
26/02/2021 13:34:07 0 9
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Fit 25 year olds should never be vaccinated. Why compromise a fully working healthy immune system. Madness.
26/02/2021 14:40:02 2 0
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Exactly!!!
Apart from front line care workers. You can argue any profession should be next. What about the power station worker who keeps the lights on? What about the bus/train driver that drives people to work? What about the delivery driver who delivers the goods to the shop? It's a complex minefield which would take months of arguing over keep it simple and quick by age.
26/02/2021 15:49:23 2 0
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Someone young or fit should not be vaccinated
26/02/2021 17:23:29 0 0
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And what about a 49 year old teacher or policeman.
51
26/02/2021 12:15:56 7 1
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I'm brian and so is my wife!!!!! Sound familiar :)
139
26/02/2021 12:22:03 1 0
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Always look on the bright side of life.
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26/02/2021 12:11:28 344 29
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Exactly, average age of a person on a ventilator at one point was 58. once the over 40's are all done (i.e. both vaccines) then i think its time for normality, or at least movement towards it
52
26/02/2021 12:16:02 16 19
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What about those with a BMI over 30? …seems they are most at risk even though no one likes to say it out loud
83
26/02/2021 12:18:09 55 34
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Self inflicted, they could lose weight if they wanted.
156
26/02/2021 12:23:02 28 9
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They can eat less and go out running .... in lockdown.
53
26/02/2021 12:16:03 140 8
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BBC please make this headline clearer - this is the NEXT group AFTER 50+ - some people on here are concerned as they are in that group but not yet called, but they will definitely get done first.
111
26/02/2021 12:20:33 99 6
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The headline is very misleading!
157
26/02/2021 12:23:05 2 11
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More fool them for not reading the article probably, then.
163
26/02/2021 12:23:32 4 8
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Learn to read
530
26/02/2021 12:43:47 6 0
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Many in their 50s still waiting to be asked for their first vaccination so 40s and under will be waiting for a while yet.
646
26/02/2021 12:50:29 0 4
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Well, i think you just need to read the whole article and not just the headline! And next in line means just that not that this group are being vaccinated now!
26/02/2021 14:25:03 0 0
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get those 60 plus peeps done asap please !!!
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26/02/2021 12:14:36 434 76
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Do the teaching unions ever give it a rest?
54
26/02/2021 12:16:07 358 67
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No!! They are always moaning.
406
26/02/2021 12:36:10 7 0
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Like the press
26/02/2021 14:25:34 2 0
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put them on the naughty step
26/02/2021 14:42:52 9 2
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You have to love the internet.

Gives people a voice who would never have previously got a platform beyond the post office queue, and they use it most fervently to moan about political and industrial organisations 'moaning'.
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26/02/2021 12:16:10 32 18
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I'm in my 40s. I work from home, very fit and healthy and mix very little with others even in normal times. I would be happy for those in high priority jobs where they have to interact with other people to go ahead of me. It doesnt seem right that I could be prioritised over a 25 year old supermarket worker who is meeting people all day
82
26/02/2021 12:18:02 23 5
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nonesense. think on, im a 53 soon to be 54 retail manager and am on the front line every day all through covid and couldn't fight covid like a 20 something can,.
93
26/02/2021 12:19:11 13 2
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Fortunately the decision is made by those who have the relevant data to consider rather than purely on sentiment.
101
26/02/2021 12:19:44 10 1
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I sort of agree, I am 50's but would be happy for front line workers to be ahead of me. That being said the scientists suggest that the current approach is the correct route so happy to follow the guidelines
122
26/02/2021 12:21:10 9 0
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And how would the NHS know they were a supermarket worker?
127
26/02/2021 12:21:29 3 0
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Me too but I have children at school, and work with the public so a young fit teacher would get vaccinated before me when the kids will mostly likely bring covid home.
144
26/02/2021 12:22:21 6 1
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And they will get it by the end of July. Making it complicated just slows it down for everyone and increases the chance of someone getting missed
472
26/02/2021 12:40:41 1 0
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I understand the sentiment but in purely practical terms how could any administritive system cope with that and move at the pace currently being achieved.
934
26/02/2021 13:07:33 1 0
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true but eventually they will vaccinate all including students in schools
19
26/02/2021 12:13:10 4 24
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Why is this government not balancing risk with everyone in lockdown?

Give the most vulnerable the most effective vaccine and the least vulnerable the least effective vaccine ....

That is why the EU and others are not giving the AZN vaccine to over 65s ... I would think.
56
26/02/2021 12:16:18 11 1
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A recent study showed the AZ vaccine to be more effective at preventing serious illness than the Pfizer vaccine. There was not a lot in it mind, both above 90%
84
26/02/2021 12:18:15 1 1
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Citation .... not Tory Johnson bluster ...thanks.
25
26/02/2021 12:13:47 7 3
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where we are the over-50's haven't even been started or got appts
57
26/02/2021 12:16:19 11 0
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The target date is the end of April, in my calculation that is 2 months to go.
58
26/02/2021 12:16:26 686 57
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The teaching union angry / disappointed etc. I cannot remember the last time that lot took a more reasoned approach and realise that as stated, age is the major factor. To slow the whole thing down to protect a 25 year old teacher ahead of a 55 year old car mechanic is nuts.

.
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26/02/2021 12:23:35 123 716
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Your comment is unfair to teachers. They, along with other key workers are putting themselves at risk for others and the greater good.

A lot of politics at play here.
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26/02/2021 12:24:01 22 64
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If your 55 you will have been offered a jab before we even get to this demographic which is under 50 so your example is misleading rather than reasoned.

The issue is I think not so much about age below 50 but exposure, teachers in particular are in close contact with children who may not be good at social distancing and schools as we may see in March a hub of further transmission.

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26/02/2021 12:33:59 19 88
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How many car mechanics mix with 1000 kids each day?
719
26/02/2021 12:56:20 28 9
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The teaching unions have been a disgrace during this pandemic. All kids should be in school and should have always been in school.
The unions seem to be creating or looking for problems for the sake of it.
Kids would never get back if we listened to their rhetoric.
And I usually support unions!!
763
26/02/2021 12:58:46 5 8
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As a teacher I do agree that age should be the factor. I think though that the poster misunderstands why there was a call for earlier vaccination of teachers. the idea as I understand it was to reduce teacher absence due to covid and hence avoid more disruption to - ie not really driven by the health interests of teachers.
884
26/02/2021 13:02:54 0 0
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They should quickly vaccinate all age groups
896
26/02/2021 13:08:41 5 6
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I think very few mechanics have caught Covid-19 from a car. What may be important is the number and frequency of social interactions. I'm neither a statistician nor an epidemiologist, and so can't say anything definite about the risk posed to teachers, to children, or to society as a whole. I can accept that returning all children to school may be risky.
26/02/2021 13:19:01 1 2
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Previously we have been told the only at risk groups were the elderly and those with health conditions. I suspect logistically it is far easier to go the age route, rather than identifying specific vocational groups and that is the sole reason for the choice.

Scientifically it would be more logical to vaccinate those vocational groups most likely to come into daily contact with CV19 carriers.
26/02/2021 13:59:03 2 2
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Once again HYS is nothing but a rampant cesspit of the uneducated and uninformed getting on their high horse to bash teachers, just as their Tory overlords command them.

The push to get teachers vaccinated was to help reduce the chance of absence from school/school closure.

But hey, feel free to continue to rant about how they want schools to stay closed despite literal evidence to the contrary.
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26/02/2021 12:14:39 8 20
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If teachers are not considered priority it somewhat contradicts "the science" which said schools were not safe and should be closed.
But there again "the science" also couldn't quite make up it's mind about masks for six months and also regards 2 people on a windy golf course as a risk to the nation's health.
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26/02/2021 12:16:29 14 4
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The science has always said schools are safe. That message has never changed
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rob
26/02/2021 12:22:56 1 1
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the message has never changed - but it's never been true
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26/02/2021 12:12:08 6 21
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Interesting, i would think people in the front line who are under 50 like:- teachers, supermarket workers, cust facing public transport staff and police/firemen should be given priority over all under 40's as a group.

They are after all more at risk of catching any virus let alone Covid.
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26/02/2021 12:16:30 9 0
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Actually the facts and data say otherwise. Hence the decision by scientists who have ALL the info at their fingertips to not prioritize based on occupation.
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26/02/2021 12:10:24 393 28
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Please change the headline. It is going to sow confusion. It seems to suggest that Over40s are being called up now when this is not the case.
Only to idiots Removed
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26/02/2021 12:25:52 21 15
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Over-40s next in line to get a Covid vaccine - bit unclear is it ?
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Rob
26/02/2021 12:26:38 8 2
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Having a bad day?
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26/02/2021 12:27:43 9 17
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Love this comment. I'm so relieved. There appears to be someone other than me in this world that can't tolerate idiots. When did people lose the ability to use their brains?
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26/02/2021 12:28:44 9 1
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Not at all. At best it's a 'nothing' headline. The real story is about denying the repeated petitions from different groups to get priority. Someone didn't have the guts to word that into a headline.
288
26/02/2021 12:30:42 7 6
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My colleague is a prime example of this. He did try quoting the Daily mail at me as if it was gospel though. I despair
407
26/02/2021 12:36:11 7 2
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Currently doing over 64’s. What else would “next” mean to most people then.
25
26/02/2021 12:13:47 7 3
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where we are the over-50's haven't even been started or got appts
62
26/02/2021 12:16:44 4 0
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Not entirely true, some over 50’s where I am have had or have been contacted to have their vaccine. The aim is that all us over 50’s will be sorted by end June, Have patience.
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26/02/2021 12:14:36 434 76
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Do the teaching unions ever give it a rest?
63
26/02/2021 12:16:45 4 10
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Try being more fragile!
13
26/02/2021 12:12:24 25 33
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Unless there is a good medical reason, the vaccination should be compulsary and it should be accompanied by a vaccination certificate.
64
26/02/2021 12:16:52 19 4
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Do you have any idea how this would open the door in terms of Government taking controls and decisions out an individuals hand? You can't simply make vaccines compulsory any more than you can make exercise or healthy eating compulsory. Very dangerous precedent being suggested here.
100
26/02/2021 12:19:43 4 5
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But we make seatbelt wearing mandatory. We make not drinking and driving mandatory. Allowing selfish individuals to harm others solely because they can’t be bothered to get vaccinated is not acceptable.
26/02/2021 15:02:59 1 0
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Motor insurance is compulsory.
65
26/02/2021 12:17:05 22 6
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Common sense and a science led approach, not one that wows voters, such as the foolish labour stance
47
26/02/2021 12:15:35 122 285
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And death rate...and economic hit.

Woohoo
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Joe
26/02/2021 12:17:07 27 20
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Awww is someone huffing that your platform to attention seek for the past 11 months is going away?
13
26/02/2021 12:12:24 25 33
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Unless there is a good medical reason, the vaccination should be compulsary and it should be accompanied by a vaccination certificate.
67
26/02/2021 12:17:08 2 4
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That will not happen in Bojo's "we brits love our freedom" world.
26/02/2021 13:51:10 1 1
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And nor should it happen.
68
26/02/2021 12:17:09 7 4
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Schools and primary kids 'are' safe. its on news today that open windows are better than masks. ventilation needed mind you its a bit cold today but fresh air gets rid of germs circulating in air
26/02/2021 13:21:29 0 0
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Excellent, so we'll just freeze the kids to death.
26/02/2021 13:45:33 0 0
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Not according to the scientists. Primary school pupils have very high rates of Covid. The refusal to invest in proper ventilation, have all pupils wear masks and fully socially distance will see the r rate go up and more deaths, just when things are getting better.
69
26/02/2021 12:17:11 13 4
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Do your bit. Get the jab. Wait a while, then lets make a giant leap forward as a nation....Well said ma'am!
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26/02/2021 12:17:15 93 18
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The sensible approach to getting the vaccine rolled out....

Just a pity there will inevitably be less take-up as we get to the lower age groups....

Something that could potentially save yours & others lives.....& people can't be bothered to go & get it.....

The heart sighs at such brain-dead selfishness. If you can have it & you have no medical reason not to... Then have it!
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aw
26/02/2021 12:20:23 28 22
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"ust a pity there will inevitably be less take-up as we get to the lower age groups...."

Do you have any evidence of this or is it simply uniformed rhetoric?
447
26/02/2021 12:38:19 3 10
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Why should a fit healthy person need a vaccine,if you have had it then what danger are they to you.
502
26/02/2021 12:42:21 12 3
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You are berating young people for them selfishly not having the vacine in the future you imagined in your head. Hmmm. Talk about living in a bubble.
590
26/02/2021 12:46:43 8 6
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I don't blame the younger people for not taking it in the same numbers as the old. It's a virus with a 99%+ survival rate and the young rarely know they've had it as their symptoms are so mild. And before you bang on about it's to protect others, the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it or passing it on - just reduces the symptoms.
687
26/02/2021 12:54:10 2 9
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What about religious reasons ?
If your vicar said it was't a good idea, as an example.
26/02/2021 13:52:11 5 3
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Wow, you are a disgusting bigot of a human being.
Anyone else you want to discriminate against, with your twisted and warped prejudices?
26/02/2021 13:53:34 10 3
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I’m sick to the back teeth of young people getting blamed for everything during this pandemic.

We’re the ones who’ve saved your lives, held your wife’s hand as she died, delivered your shopping, volunteered at vaccine centres, educated your grandchildren, designed your vaccine, kept the country going.

Please just stop blaming us for everything! We’re good people mostly I promise.
71
26/02/2021 12:17:16 5 5
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I agree - I am 57 this year and have not yet been invited but they are now saying the over 40s will soon be invited. Am I missing something or is this just government hype
102
26/02/2021 12:19:53 1 0
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Contact your GP if I was you
106
26/02/2021 12:20:14 1 0
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they're not saying over 40's will be invited before over 50's
113
26/02/2021 12:20:43 1 0
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No, just stating that 40s will be done after 50s.
229
26/02/2021 12:27:37 0 0
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They haven't got to the 60-64 group yet, wait a few more weeks
251
26/02/2021 12:24:18 0 0
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It says 40s will be invited once this current group has been done....which it also states is mid April. You've got minimum 6 weeks yet before they even start on the 40s.
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26/02/2021 12:13:16 4 14
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What happened to the over 50s?

I'm 55 next week and not been called up for my 1st yet! Or are 50+ not getting it? ??
72
26/02/2021 12:17:19 2 0
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Read the article, by the end of April.
73
26/02/2021 12:17:24 332 9
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Can you imagine the pain of trying to sort out and prioritise people that think they need the jab. Doing it by age is the quickest and easiest way.
450
26/02/2021 12:38:27 43 345
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How many other workers mix with 1000 kids every day?? How hard is that to work out??!
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M12
26/02/2021 12:47:52 30 0
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Agreed. There is also the complication of how your doctors surgery knows what your occupation is to call you forward!
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kh
26/02/2021 13:00:31 12 0
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all baffling nonsense, hopefully we still have enough smart teachers who realise.
890
26/02/2021 13:04:23 1 19
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They should vaccinate kids for Covid
26/02/2021 13:37:35 2 0
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We need the vaccine roll out to keep, accelerating protecting those most vulnerable first. Any other method including sorting by jobs is going to complicate matters, and slow down the vaccine programme, which would leave vulnerable people more likley to be hospitalised and even die to be left w/o the vaccine whilst a teacher, policeman, or whoever in their 20s and 30s get the jab first. Wrong!
26/02/2021 13:49:40 5 0
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Yep if you say teachers then you need to include janitors, dinner ladies, cleaners, teaching assistants etc, then makes sense to do their partners, families first. You just go down a wormhole. Keep by age, we are getting there so quick by mid Apr should be all over 50's then all adults by end Jul.
26/02/2021 14:18:46 1 0
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Yes but that's far too sensible for the "me first and s*d the rest brigade
26/02/2021 16:02:47 3 0
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There is a group of sick and twisted people on here, seeming hell bent on complicating and slowing down the vaccination process, I'm loving the fact that even on the "Liberal woke" bbc website, the Vast majority are calling them out.
74
26/02/2021 12:17:25 26 3
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should vaccination of medical/health care workers be mandatory?

will un-immunised individuals continue to pose a risk to the wider population?
128
26/02/2021 12:21:31 6 18
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No,
no...
915
26/02/2021 13:06:39 1 0
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ermm vaccine doest stop transmission
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26/02/2021 12:10:24 393 28
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Please change the headline. It is going to sow confusion. It seems to suggest that Over40s are being called up now when this is not the case.
75
26/02/2021 12:17:27 36 5
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I agree - I logged in specifically to check this after seeing the headline on teletext. I'm over 50 and worried that my useless GP will forget to invite me for vaccination...
26/02/2021 13:27:27 1 0
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So useless you stay with him! Pathetic rhetoric
26/02/2021 14:31:30 2 0
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They won't forget!
26/02/2021 14:40:27 2 1
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use initiative and call them?! That's been on the news for ages.....if your group is being vaccinated and you haven't been contacted...contact them instead of sitting at home moaning
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26/02/2021 12:13:26 12 7
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Surely 2nd Vaccine for those genuinely at risk would be wiser...
76
26/02/2021 12:17:39 5 0
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they have started having them now
342
26/02/2021 12:32:56 1 3
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At a rate that is slower than would be possible if not giving 1st doses to younger healthy people like me...
77
26/02/2021 12:17:41 9 5
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I am lucky enough to WFH and so am low risk in my age category. Couldn’t everyone’s jab invitation have a “happy to wait another 2 weeks” option so that lower risk people like me could help more at risk people to get their jabs first?
98
26/02/2021 12:19:35 8 1
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No, because it adds an adminstrative burden which would inevitably slow things down.
114
26/02/2021 12:20:47 2 0
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You can book a later date when you make your appointment...
135
26/02/2021 12:21:45 0 1
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Great comment.
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26/02/2021 12:09:38 7 8
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I think this was the only way possible to do it, though they could have considered doing the youngest next as the largest spreader when the really at risk groups have been completed.
78
26/02/2021 12:17:41 3 2
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They may be the largest spreaders, but they are even less at risk personally. Presumably those who have the relevant data are in a better position than you to judge the evidence and weigh all aspects, including the point you make which I am sure they will have considered..
79
26/02/2021 12:17:47 2 9
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Asthma sufferers who may be able now to control their symptoms in ordinary life, but are still more vulnerable to becoming seriously ill or dying with COVID-19 ought to be prioritized before a blanket “over-40s”!
97
26/02/2021 12:19:32 1 1
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Prioritised.
153
26/02/2021 12:22:43 0 1
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Yeh, tell you what, let's pause the program them spend six months arguing over the details of exactly who should get it next.

Alternatively, lets just get as many jabs done as fast as we can. The aim is to vaccinate everyone anyway, it's only a matter of when not if.

So lets not push out the 'when' even further arguing over who should come next.
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26/02/2021 12:17:54 7 5
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All adults to be vaccinated by 31st July (hopefully), but June 21st is being targetted as the date for a return to normal life? Shouldn't it be the other way round?
91
26/02/2021 12:19:05 2 2
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No.
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OwO
26/02/2021 12:20:43 0 0
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To those in their 20s and below, the risk is below 0.1%. This has entirely been about protecting the vulnerable, who will all have been by then.
151
26/02/2021 12:22:38 0 0
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Sorry but it would be normal life. Get back to more normal will be the case
185
26/02/2021 12:25:28 0 0
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No
81
26/02/2021 12:17:56 678 15
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The plan is to vaccinate everyone, so it would be madness to get held up arguing over minutiae

Start from the top (age) and work down as fast as possible - just get on with it.
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26/02/2021 12:23:19 451 208
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Yep - that is what the government is doing - just like Brexit!!

And thanks to Brexit - you in teh UK are not in the mess we are in here in France, the +75 year olds just cannot get an appointment as there is no vaccine!!!!!
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kh
26/02/2021 12:58:00 3 26
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Rushing the initial plan, without an open discussion, is how we got here.

"as fast as possible" and "just get on with it"

This moral panic attitude really is responsible for the current disaster.
26/02/2021 13:44:44 1 22
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Not for me thanks, I’m young and have already had sars-cov-2. I’ll take my chances catching it again vs an experimental MRNA vaccine rattled through clinical trials at warp speed
26/02/2021 14:41:26 2 0
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Absolutely, and who’s to say the police should be treated more urgently than firemen, lolly pop persons, shop workers or any other profession that comes into contact with the public. You could argue that police face the public quite rarely in terms of minutes per day.
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26/02/2021 12:16:10 32 18
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I'm in my 40s. I work from home, very fit and healthy and mix very little with others even in normal times. I would be happy for those in high priority jobs where they have to interact with other people to go ahead of me. It doesnt seem right that I could be prioritised over a 25 year old supermarket worker who is meeting people all day
82
26/02/2021 12:18:02 23 5
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nonesense. think on, im a 53 soon to be 54 retail manager and am on the front line every day all through covid and couldn't fight covid like a 20 something can,.
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26/02/2021 12:25:55 5 3
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You haven't read it properly have you? I was saying that those on front line SHOUlD go ahead of those who aren't. So yes you should go ahead of someone in their 20s as you are frontline.
319
26/02/2021 12:32:10 2 1
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depends whether you have kept yourself healthy
52
26/02/2021 12:16:02 16 19
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What about those with a BMI over 30? …seems they are most at risk even though no one likes to say it out loud
83
26/02/2021 12:18:09 55 34
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Self inflicted, they could lose weight if they wanted.
252
26/02/2021 12:25:05 11 26
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Didn't take me very long to scroll down and find a comment that made me feel like smashing things up - congratulations!
408
26/02/2021 12:36:11 9 3
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Actually that is wildly inaccurate. I'm guessing you're a lightweight to make such a sweeping ill-informed statement.

You do also realise that just about every rugby player has a BMI well over 30, don't you?
427
26/02/2021 12:37:29 5 5
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If their life being at risk isn't even enough to motivate them to lose weight, then maybe they do actually have a genuine mental illness.
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123
26/02/2021 12:44:05 8 1
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not all people who are overweight can easily lose weight, also its not always self inflicted, but your right lets cull people
649
26/02/2021 12:50:59 13 3
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You do realise that some of us with over 30 BMI have thyroid issues, which makes it virtually impossible to that. I cycle over 30 miles a day and consume less that 2100 calories, but still have a BMI over 30.! Don't catorgrise all people in the same bracket.
26/02/2021 14:22:12 4 2
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1) I lived in a house share for a while (>1 yr and all men), the one with the lowest BMI ate fare more than the one with the highest BMI, he also drank considerably more, as some of the others. Yet the one who had the healthiest diet was the one with the high BMI, which he'd struggled with since early childhood, despite having slim siblings. It isn't all cut and dried.
26/02/2021 14:22:38 3 2
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2) Another friend, committed to vegetarianism and health food since 16 is overweight despite to touching alcohol and eating a relatively low carb diet. Just as people don't all have the same intelligence, they also don't all have the same gastrointestinal system. My father and mother ate the same diet, one overweight and the other slim.
26/02/2021 14:24:18 1 1
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3) If you don't believe me, look at the latest research in the area in gut bacteria. I could say similar things about those without post graduate degrees. Anyone can get one if they try, it's really easy. I can tell you that it's much easier that losing 30 kg in weight.
26/02/2021 14:31:42 3 0
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Yeah...there's the milk of human kindness I've been looking for
56
26/02/2021 12:16:18 11 1
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A recent study showed the AZ vaccine to be more effective at preventing serious illness than the Pfizer vaccine. There was not a lot in it mind, both above 90%
84
26/02/2021 12:18:15 1 1
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Citation .... not Tory Johnson bluster ...thanks.
44
26/02/2021 12:15:20 1681 87
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As a teacher i fully support this, teaching unions don't speak for a lot of teachers over this. Doing vaccinations by different groups will just have people squabbling which group is more important, if we went by that route it would see the roll out slow right down as vulnerable people made to wait just so a healthy teacher or policeman can get the jab, this is the way.
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26/02/2021 12:18:15 687 42
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A sensible comment at last!!
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26/02/2021 12:28:54 86 24
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Agreed. Unfortunately those down voting the comment fall into the 'possess no common sense whatsoever' category.
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26/02/2021 12:12:47 239 16
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Good, this is the most sensible, logical and quickest way to do it.
Cue moaning from teachers.
However, how can you justify a 25yo teacher receiving a vaccine before a 49yo supermarket worker.
Data and science says age is the most important factor, above occupation, so let's do it that way.
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Si
26/02/2021 12:18:20 23 184
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How about teachers and supermarkets workers first? Before those just at home. It’s the risk fo them spreading as much as the risk to them
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26/02/2021 12:24:35 21 5
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No, just no.
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26/02/2021 12:32:15 27 1
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How does the NHS know that someone is a teacher or a supermarket worker? They have calculated, it would slow the process down to determine who does what. Just do it by age group and get the job done.
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26/02/2021 12:37:01 44 1
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How about teachers, super market workers, coffee shop workers, bus drivers, train conductors, boiler repair men I mean where do you draw the line exactly. What about someone in the school office ? what about someone in the super market loading bay ? unworkable complexity. Which is the point
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26/02/2021 12:56:45 3 18
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Quite agree. This argument teachers and supermarket workers are not high risk. Really? How many people are they in close contact with on a daily basis in comparison to the average person?
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26/02/2021 12:59:47 18 0
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We would spend weeks deciding who works in a shop (is part time enough?). Do it by age and that way we reach max protection in the quickest time.
26/02/2021 13:21:15 16 0
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Teachers, supermarket workers, utility workers, police, mechanics, doctors etc. By the time we categorise and prioritise everyone, it will be December
26/02/2021 13:29:55 13 0
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I feel a Monty Python sketch coming on.

Teachers
Teachers and Police
Teachers and Police and Shop workers
Teachers and Police and Shop workers and........
Rob
26/02/2021 13:39:14 7 2
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What about fruit and vegetable pickers sewage workers transport workers abattoir workers people who actually keep the country running
26/02/2021 14:12:35 4 1
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Your argument is not supported by the evidence. We need to stop the greatest harm of this infection which drives the plan
26/02/2021 14:35:07 6 1
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Just stupid, how do the authorities identify that a person is a teacher or supermarket worker and give them priority. Age is the biggest risk factor and vaccinations should be given on that basis as the health records will include a persons age not their occupation
26/02/2021 16:54:01 1 0
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How do you know those "just at home" don't have underlying medical conditions, or are carers for elderly relatives. Why are those who are "just at home" less important?
26/02/2021 16:58:35 0 0
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"How about teachers and supermarkets workers first?"

OK, and what about innumerable other groups in a similar position?
26/02/2021 17:45:09 0 0
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What about the NHS? The Armed Forces (who are doing tests and vaccinations) Furloughed airline workers with medical experience who have volunteered to give injections.... Ambulance drivers....
They are all person facing jobs possibly treating people with covid,and who aren't currently the priority either.
The present method of working from the most to least susceptible is the sensible way!
26/02/2021 20:18:46 0 0
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How about you just accept the decision has been made and the answer is NO
27/02/2021 07:23:52 0 0
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I think that after all over 50s have been vaccinated then, yes, teachers, supermarket staff (who have been long-suffering in all this), front line police officers and front line firefighters should be offered vaccinations next; but ONLY if this dies not slow down our currently rapid vaccination programme.
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26/02/2021 12:18:33 34 1
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Science beats politics every time.
me
26/02/2021 17:13:42 6 2
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Not when politicians pick and choose which bits of the science to follow!!
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26/02/2021 12:18:35 29 0
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If you talk about key-workers then how about the families of healthcare workers? They've been as at risk as the healthcare workers themselves throughout this.

But I think by age has to be the fairest way. Otherwise there will be so much jostling for a place at the front of the queue.
26/02/2021 14:50:28 6 1
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I'm health care worker and had my first jab in Jan. This is my primary concern as i'm being put at risk of catching Covid. My wife is a stay at home mum and in an at risk group but she's not eligible yet for the vaccine. I stay awake at night scared i'll bring covid home. I know age is the quick way but doesn't stop me being worried about ending up a single dad.
27/02/2021 11:56:52 0 0
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it really is pathetic to see grown adults behaving like this, what has happened people?, just grow a pair and wait your turn!
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26/02/2021 12:18:37 2 3
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At the start of the pandemic I had a letter from the NHS telling me I'm high risk and that I should shield.

To date I've not been offered a vaccine.

Looking at the daily doses administered, numbers are reducing day by day.

Is it all working as it should be?
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26/02/2021 12:20:19 1 1
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I would contact your GP
26/02/2021 13:20:18 0 0
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Go to https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/

Available if..
you are aged 64 or over
you have previously received a letter saying you are at high risk from coronavirus (clinically extremely vulnerable)
you are an eligible frontline health worker
you are an eligible frontline social care worker
you are eligible for Carer's Allowance
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26/02/2021 12:14:36 434 76
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Do the teaching unions ever give it a rest?
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26/02/2021 12:18:59 32 27
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approaching 12 months of rest for some of them.
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26/02/2021 12:21:01 21 13
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Teachers have worked through all this. Schools have not been closed, but have been open the children of key workers.
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26/02/2021 12:17:54 7 5
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All adults to be vaccinated by 31st July (hopefully), but June 21st is being targetted as the date for a return to normal life? Shouldn't it be the other way round?
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26/02/2021 12:19:05 2 2
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No.
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26/02/2021 12:20:19 0 0
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Because?
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26/02/2021 12:19:06 54 7
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im a 53 year old retail manager and no a fit 20 something teacher should not be over me. not being selfish but once you get past 50 even those who look after themselves, you get ill quicker
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26/02/2021 12:22:38 6 37
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It's not just about the risk to the teacher, though - it's about the logistics of what happens to the class if the teacher catches it, constantly in and out of self-isolation, with the knock-on effect to the kids' families.
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26/02/2021 12:25:55 3 12
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Yet we look after thousands of households worth of kids and if we go off sick with it the whole bubble closes and kids go back home. Teachers of any age should be above retail staff if schools return in full. If not good luck with the winter lockdown 2021 that will come.
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26/02/2021 13:12:09 1 0
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But that's not what the article is about. The article is debating whether those aged 40-49 should be prioritised over those aged 18-39 who are police officers or teachers.
26/02/2021 13:34:20 2 0
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But at least your customers have to wear masks. Primary school children don't!
27/02/2021 01:32:35 0 0
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I hear what you're saying. But teacher', or rather their unions, are not asking vaccinated before the aged 50 and over priority groups. They're just asking to get their jab before 30 and 40 somethings.
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26/02/2021 12:16:10 32 18
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I'm in my 40s. I work from home, very fit and healthy and mix very little with others even in normal times. I would be happy for those in high priority jobs where they have to interact with other people to go ahead of me. It doesnt seem right that I could be prioritised over a 25 year old supermarket worker who is meeting people all day
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26/02/2021 12:19:11 13 2
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Fortunately the decision is made by those who have the relevant data to consider rather than purely on sentiment.
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26/02/2021 12:12:18 16 17
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To be consistent, the title should be:

"Despite Brexit, Over-40s next in line to get a Covid vaccine"
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26/02/2021 12:19:24 2 0
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In that case everyone should be thanking the Over 40s.
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26/02/2021 12:13:47 7 3
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where we are the over-50's haven't even been started or got appts
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26/02/2021 12:19:25 2 0
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They're in the plan already. This is talking about when the first 9 categories have been done.
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26/02/2021 12:19:27 40 0
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If teachers are over 40 or any age and vulnerable they will be prioritised, there is no need for any occupations to jump the queue.
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26/02/2021 12:21:14 18 0
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apart from front-line health-care workers who are treating infected people
26/02/2021 14:49:54 0 0
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I’m 57 asthmatic snd a full time teacher. No vaccine yet and unlikely before mid April. Will be back in the classroom from next week.
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26/02/2021 12:17:47 2 9
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Asthma sufferers who may be able now to control their symptoms in ordinary life, but are still more vulnerable to becoming seriously ill or dying with COVID-19 ought to be prioritized before a blanket “over-40s”!
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26/02/2021 12:19:32 1 1
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Prioritised.
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26/02/2021 12:17:41 9 5
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I am lucky enough to WFH and so am low risk in my age category. Couldn’t everyone’s jab invitation have a “happy to wait another 2 weeks” option so that lower risk people like me could help more at risk people to get their jabs first?
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26/02/2021 12:19:35 8 1
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No, because it adds an adminstrative burden which would inevitably slow things down.
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26/02/2021 12:13:47 7 3
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where we are the over-50's haven't even been started or got appts
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26/02/2021 12:19:38 4 0
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Over 50's will be done before mid April. Thats 6 weeks away. They are just completing the over 65's. Give it chance!
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26/02/2021 12:16:52 19 4
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Do you have any idea how this would open the door in terms of Government taking controls and decisions out an individuals hand? You can't simply make vaccines compulsory any more than you can make exercise or healthy eating compulsory. Very dangerous precedent being suggested here.
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26/02/2021 12:19:43 4 5
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But we make seatbelt wearing mandatory. We make not drinking and driving mandatory. Allowing selfish individuals to harm others solely because they can’t be bothered to get vaccinated is not acceptable.