Covid: Thousands sign petition against vaccine passports
26/02/2021 | news | politics | 2,407
More than 200,000 people are urging the government not to introduce documents offering proof of vaccination.
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26/02/2021 10:23:46 259 87
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See the human rights groups are at it again, the only exception should be on medical grounds. No vac no access “Simple”
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26/02/2021 10:46:24 56 117
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What a lovely society you propose

Why havent you been saying this for years with all other vaccinations, why are you just piping up now, 77th?
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26/02/2021 11:12:56 15 24
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I want all you Vax zombies to keep well away from me and my family. It is you lot who are a danger. So get back under your bed and isolate forever.
Have you seen what happened in Gibraltar?! You fool! And also, are you happy to be vaccinated with dead fetal cells? Do you have any morals left?! Removed
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Ding ding we have another nazi here. Yellow stars next? Removed
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26/02/2021 14:09:20 1 5
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You seem to have a problem with human rights as you sneer at the people who think they should have some
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26/02/2021 14:26:43 2 5
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bit of a one sided argument here think the Nazi tried this approach in 1930s and 40s.
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ben
26/02/2021 16:08:03 3 0
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It's not so much the human rights groups as the personal liberties lobby - you know them, they're the ones who think their beliefs are more important than everyone else's.
26/02/2021 16:38:06 2 2
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The human right to be protected from those who refuse the vaccine.
27/02/2021 09:00:40 0 0
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You say "human rights" as if it's something to be shunned.
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26/02/2021 10:24:52 365 81
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What about the rights of the rest of society who have to come into contact with the unvaccinated? Do they count?
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:32:03 17 39
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Surely if you’re vulnerable or worried about COVID, you’ll have a jab and be protected; therefore you won’t need to worry if you come into contact with the ‘unvaccinated’.
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OwO
26/02/2021 11:00:29 4 10
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They aren't opposed to getting vaccinated, just to the passports.
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26/02/2021 11:15:07 9 15
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Does vaccination reduce transmission? The jury is still out on that, but the pro-vaxxers have already decided the truth of the matter.
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26/02/2021 11:27:53 1 11
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Cominus, if the vaccine works and it gives you sufficient protection, which they say they do, then what have you got to fear from an unvaccinated individual?

And I will have the vaccine when it eventually gets down to me.
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26/02/2021 12:41:10 1 5
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surely science needs to offer some proof that a virus can transmit between two people before considering that?
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26/02/2021 12:50:55 2 8
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If you are vaccinated - aren't you protected enough not to worry about whether others are or aren't?

Unless of course you really have no faith in the vaccines.
Our rights are not to live in a dictatorship like nazi germany where we have to present papers. Were you this paranoid about people having flu jabs? I think not. Go to N Korea if you enjoy totalitarianism, we won't miss you. Removed
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26/02/2021 13:52:44 0 3
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What about the rights of non smokers? What about the rights of people that don't drive yet get killed walking down the road?
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26/02/2021 14:18:08 0 0
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What's to worry about you been vaccinated
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26/02/2021 14:23:40 0 1
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So what do you intend to ask everyone you ever meet first to provide proof they have been vaxed. if you have had it why are you worrying about others?
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26/02/2021 10:25:37 101 11
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A petition urging the government not to introduce vaccine passports could be debated by MPs after it gained more than 200,000 signatures.

The online petition says the passports could be "used to restrict the rights of people who have refused a Covid-19 vaccine".

Proof of vaccination could allow people to travel or attend large events.

What is to stop airlines and other countries adopting this?
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26/02/2021 10:43:35 163 46
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I really hope they do. I hope all private companies restrict access for those maniac anti-vaxxers
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26/02/2021 12:29:56 5 5
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200,000 selfish (apart from medically exempt) individuals who do not trust the NHS - yet they are paying for the NHS via NI Contributions !!
26/02/2021 16:32:53 0 0
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I don't want to travel on an airline that allows non-vaccinated people on it!
26/02/2021 16:49:11 0 0
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Some countries will insist on them.
27/02/2021 15:51:13 0 0
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Look at how disproportionate the numbers are, circa 125.000 One Hundred and Twenty Five Thousand people have died and a good majority of the deaths couldn't have been avoided due to comorbidity health issues unfortunately, consequently, the Government are Insisting 65 Million People will have to be Vaccinated, How mental is that...?
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26/02/2021 10:27:28 15 44
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Vaccine pasports / co-erced vaccination have been the hidden agenda since day 1

To put something such as this in an election manifesto would be electoral suicide, but to push it through under the guise of a pandemic is what the aim was

Vaccine pasports are the thin end of a globalist wedge that must be resisted at all cost
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26/02/2021 10:29:18 20 6
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Get back under your foil hat.
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26/02/2021 10:34:57 4 5
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absolutely spot on!
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26/02/2021 10:35:55 4 3
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And pasports are unnecessary because the deep state can collect all the information they beed from the chip that Bill Gates has had inserted in every jab.

Now, where did I put my tinfoil hat?
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26/02/2021 10:27:59 79 29
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Passports would allow something to take place before it otherwise would.

In other words, the vaccination programme is going to reduce everyone's individual risk to COVID, but until uptake is high enough some events will still carry a higher risk.

The use of passports reduces that risk level such that they can take place.

So either you have the passport and hold events, or you don't - and don't.
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26/02/2021 11:58:18 41 34
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It's amazing how people willingly give away their freedom, then shout at others that don't wish to.
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26/02/2021 20:32:55 0 0
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You are Hitler and I am claiming my prize
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26/02/2021 10:28:14 190 18
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I don't see how you can stop any country / airline / venue making their own determination on whether they will require proof of vaccination and, if I chose not to then I have to accept those rules. Also, if as a vaccinated person I know a particularly country/airline etc does not require this of its visitors/customers, I may chose not to go there or use those services for my own protections.
You HAVE to accept arbitrary rules, dreamt up by arbitrary spivs, which may be in breach of national law? I don't think so. Grow a pair mate. Removed
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26/02/2021 12:02:20 18 0
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Exactly!
Not being govt mandated wont stop it happening.
Independent businesses have the right to make their own rules.
One of my local pubs wont allow baseball caps/tracksuit bottoms. You accept that or go somewhere else. This will be the same.
No one kicks up a fuss about having yellow fever, typhoid, tetanus, cholera, dengue fever, Japanese Encephalitis jabs for travel, why is this different??
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26/02/2021 12:24:05 8 2
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Totally agree. Civil liberties gone mad. It is going to happen whatever people say because many countries will insist upon proof of vaccination. I don't want to travel with people who haven't been vaccinated.
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26/02/2021 14:37:20 1 1
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UK can't stop other countries. But UK can and does stop airlines / venues making their own determination, it's called anti-discrimination law.
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SJ
26/02/2021 14:40:22 0 0
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Exactly. It's not government business, except in relation to international travel.
26/02/2021 15:47:35 1 0
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Surely that depends on your age and health; if brought in tomorrow, I won't be aloud into such venues, I'm not in the correct age bracket, so is this not being ageist against younger individuals?! Additionally, so can't have the vaccine due to other health conditions; do you stop them attending an event because of their individual circumstances? Its a very dangerous precedent to make!!
26/02/2021 16:02:28 0 0
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Can you travel now, no, then how can you possibly not see that it is possible to stop people traveling? You know what a passport is right? You know you cant normally travel without one? Jeeeeeeeez.
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26/02/2021 10:28:41 621 134
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Not having a vaccination is a choice.

If you make that choice accept the consequences and don't whinge about your human rights.
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26/02/2021 10:47:17 81 153
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Well, for some, who have certain medical conditions, don't have the same choice as you or I.
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OwO
26/02/2021 10:55:07 60 18
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"Not wanting the vaccine" and "not wanting vaccine passports" are two entirely different issues.
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26/02/2021 10:56:48 36 38
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It's not much of a 'choice' if you loose access to all work. I'd agree for care workers and front line medical workers, etc and when it makes sense, but we can't leave it down to company directors to dictate our bodies for god's sake. As someone who WILL have the vaccines when offered, we still need legal protections to protect all parties, including those who won't/can't
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26/02/2021 11:13:08 91 20
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You have to remember that Covidiots retain the right to infect other people. They also retain the right to encourage new variants of covid and thereby render the vaccine potentially useless. Remember we live in the age of the moron and as such government policy is determined by the cretins.
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26/02/2021 11:26:40 72 6
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A vaccination certificate can confirm that you have had the vaccine or that you are medically exempt. It is only those choosing not to be vaccinated that will be impacted. If airlines decide they need certificates before travel, then those who choose not to be vaccinated will not be able to travel. Simple as that. We cannot have GP's issuing these as they need to focus on treating patients.
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26/02/2021 11:28:32 53 1
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Spot on, plus its not just our government considering it. I mean you can't complain of another country demanding you have one before you enter, they already do this with some other diseases.
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26/02/2021 12:07:06 1 3
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A domestic one will not work because a) there will be so many legal challenges to it that it will never get implemented, b) our social framework is such that it will be impossible for the police/venues to enforce it, c) if the vaccine rollout continues to plan then we will have reached herd immunity before the system is ready. An international one will be needed by other countries.
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26/02/2021 12:40:31 2 10
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So what if the consequences were that if you had the vaccination then you would be excluded from everything? If you cannot comprehend that human rights are there to transcend consequences, I would worry for your ability to make simple decisions around your own health.
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26/02/2021 12:50:32 10 20
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The thing is, if the purpose of lockdown is to protect the vulnerable. If the vulnerable have been vaccinated and are therefore no longer vulnerable, then who exactly are you protecting?

It doesn't add up, it's just an excuse for an attack on our personal freedoms.

"Here, take this new drug with no long term studies in exchange for your personal freedom". This is the stuff of Nazis.
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26/02/2021 12:57:42 3 10
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I’d rather not have the jab through choice. Potential long term side effects still can’t be ascertained as there were no longitudinal studies allowing more than a few months. I may be forced into it but I’ll wait as long as possible for the Sheeple to get jabbed.
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26/02/2021 13:01:12 6 7
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Are people who either can't be, or chose not to be, vaccinated not 'human' then in your opinion? Round them up? (only to protect everyone else, of course) Concentrate them in one place (only for their own safety, of course). Until a final solution can be found (one that benefits everybody, of course).... The most popular comment too - truly frightening.
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26/02/2021 13:19:18 10 4
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Couldn't agree more. I would suspect the vast majority of people in this country support vaccine passports.
Of course those who can't have the vaccine for medical reasons should be given exemption (or be given a vaccine passport) but for those extremely selfish individuals who choose not to have the vaccine and in doing so risk other peoples lives, tough luck live with the consequences.
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26/02/2021 13:47:35 2 2
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Not a choice if these vaccination passports are rolled out before every single person has the opportunity to be given the vaccine. It would be hugely unfair to younger generations to be prevented from travelling because they are at the back of the queue through no fault of their own. Once everyone is OFFERED a jab, then yes it makes sense.
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26/02/2021 13:51:45 3 1
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Not having a car is my choice...but I could still get killed by one. That's life.
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26/02/2021 13:58:19 3 1
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Absolutely right!! Either have the vaccine or choose not too - and put up with any restrictions this might put on you. Why should those that have had the vaccine have to worry that there might be people around them (say in a pub or music festival) who haven't?
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26/02/2021 14:13:12 3 0
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What if, as with the Pfizer and Moderna 'vaccines', they don't confer immunity or stop transmissibility, but only reduce symptoms . This could mean pro vaxxers in receipt of one of these vaccines (like the whole of Israel), could still get COVID but display no symptoms, thus becoming asymptomatic super spreaders.
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26/02/2021 14:17:29 0 0
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Wish you would make the choice to be quite
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26/02/2021 14:25:20 3 1
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I had the vaccination this morning, but feel no need whatsoever for a piece of paper to 'prove' that I did, thank you very much.

If anyone has a genuine need to know I am perfectly capable of telling them, but for most people it is none of their business.

Oh, and where's the link to the petition, BBC?
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26/02/2021 14:28:12 3 5
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It's my human right not to have any vaccination if I choose not to. Would you prefer the govt. to mandate all expectant mothers have the thalidomide vaccination? I am all for vaccination, I've had the Pfizer one, but that is my choice. If I choose not to, I shouldn't be barred from travelling where I like or prevented from accessing services. Britain is supposed to be a free country.
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26/02/2021 10:27:28 15 44
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Vaccine pasports / co-erced vaccination have been the hidden agenda since day 1

To put something such as this in an election manifesto would be electoral suicide, but to push it through under the guise of a pandemic is what the aim was

Vaccine pasports are the thin end of a globalist wedge that must be resisted at all cost
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26/02/2021 10:29:18 20 6
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Get back under your foil hat.
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26/02/2021 10:41:40 2 4
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perhaps remove your blinkers and rose-tinted glasses?
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26/02/2021 11:12:21 1 0
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I thought that the vaccine was designed to improve 5G phone reception. Or am I 'confused of Norwich'?
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26/02/2021 10:24:52 365 81
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What about the rights of the rest of society who have to come into contact with the unvaccinated? Do they count?
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:36:44 80 22
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No because you don't understand how herd immunity works.
The unvaccinated could be hosts for a mutation of covid that the vaccines don't work for. Then we're back at square one.
Thanks anti vaccinatiors
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26/02/2021 10:36:46 52 8
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How about:
a) the vaccine doesn't offer 100% protection (although it's pretty good)
b) some people can't have the vaccine (though no fault or choice of their own)
c) vaccines reduce the spread, the more spread, the more variants
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26/02/2021 10:39:01 47 20
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I believe it's 85% effective (as confirmed by scientific investigation which may not matter to you). You have no right to put me in danger if I am one of the unfortunate 15%.
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26/02/2021 10:39:54 38 6
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No vaccine is 100% effective, if you are vaccinated you can still catch covid. Please get some facts right before talking nonsense.
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26/02/2021 10:44:59 42 10
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The more people in society who take the vaccine the more the the virus will spread will be controlled and less people needing hospital care, allowing the NHS to return to caring for non-Covid patients. Whose who chose not to get vaccinate are putting their own selfish beliefs before the wider good of society.
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26/02/2021 10:45:30 23 5
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Do you wear a seat belt?
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26/02/2021 10:47:11 16 5
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The vaccines currently available here are at best 95% effective so not all who have the vaccine are protected. There are also those who cannot for medical reasons have the vaccine so your point is invalid.
Those who choose not to have the vaccine have every right to do so but that does not mean the can choose not to accept the consequences.
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26/02/2021 11:10:47 1 13
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Good comment.
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26/02/2021 11:19:18 22 2
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"If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent". There will be those that *can't* have the vaccine. They need to be protected from the selfish who *won't* have the vaccine. Your right to not have it has to be balanced against their right to not live in fear of you exercising your rights.
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26/02/2021 11:36:38 1 9
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Finally some common sense!
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26/02/2021 11:36:40 5 0
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Ah yes because those are literally the only trains of thought.... don't be an eejit. plus the vaccine is best at cutting down the symptoms and isn't 100% effective and as such you shouldnt treat it as so
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26/02/2021 12:01:04 7 1
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Yeah? Well good luck in the future then, when a host of shops, establishments and travel companies deny you access to their services because you chose not to carry a little card around with you.
I've had the vaccine. I trust the data and the experts when they say the two doses provides 90% protection and 99% protection against serious symptoms. To me, that means I'm safe.
Safety means a return to normal life. Normal life means not showing papers to get into the pub. Normal life means not giving a toss if the person next to me in the pub has chosen not to be vaccinated.
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26/02/2021 13:19:04 3 0
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Possibly going to another country whose vaccine program is not as advanced as ours where you may infect someone could be a consideration?
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26/02/2021 13:26:28 6 0
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What a stupid Comment, don't get vaccinated, just whinge about your civil rights, you are one of life's "professional victims", and to protect your right to infect society with any variant or mutation of Covid that should come along , you have the morals of a sociopath
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26/02/2021 13:35:05 5 0
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1. No vaccine provides 100% protection.

2. Those without vaccinations are much more likely to be a breeding ground for new mutations of the virus. Some will be more benign, but sooner or later there will be a mutation that ignores the vaccine and becomes a more efficient killer (or just putting more in ICUs). Increasing the number vaccinated reduces the possibilities for mutations to evolve.
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26/02/2021 13:41:01 3 0
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How stupid.You forget the NHS will be harmed, many others won't be able to get treatments. The vaccine is 90% plus effective and not 100%. Get a jab or be isolated.
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26/02/2021 13:42:49 4 0
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It's more a case of the unvaccinated being a risk to those who can't be vaccinated, the vulnerable, being carriers who may then be spreaders, be a burden on the NHS etc. WHICH DOES AFFECT THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT QUITE SO SELFISH.
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26/02/2021 13:59:19 5 0
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Utter codswallop.
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26/02/2021 14:11:32 1 0
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The vaccine does work but until coverage is 100% not having it puts people at risk.
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26/02/2021 14:18:12 0 0
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Vaccination does not off 100% protection....it nearly does but not quite.
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26/02/2021 14:39:37 1 0
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I suggest you watch the youtube clip "Vaccines: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)" - WANRING contain adult material. You will then understand why we should all be vaccinated - I know this has nothing to do with passports.
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26/02/2021 14:40:40 3 0
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This is something akin to the no-smoking debate in pubs many years ago. The smokers lobby complained bitterly about their freedom, without a care in the world for the non-smokers who inhaled their by-product and went home with smoke smelling clothing. The anti-vaxxers are of the same selfish ilk and if passports were required then tough, you cannot travel, go into a pub or restaurant, suck it up!
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26/02/2021 10:27:28 15 44
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Vaccine pasports / co-erced vaccination have been the hidden agenda since day 1

To put something such as this in an election manifesto would be electoral suicide, but to push it through under the guise of a pandemic is what the aim was

Vaccine pasports are the thin end of a globalist wedge that must be resisted at all cost
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26/02/2021 10:30:23 17 11
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I can see other countries, airlines, travel insurance companies and various institutions in the UK insisting on some proof of vaccination, so I think it will a necessity, whether compulsory or voluntary.
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26/02/2021 10:30:26 30 16
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This is no big deal.
The Govt can issue official verifiable vaccination certification (in whatever form) and after that it's up to everyone else, business, venue etc. whether to admit only vaccinated people or let in everyone.

Next!
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26/02/2021 10:31:45 11 18
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The vaccine doesn't stop transmission, so what is the point of a vaccine passport when it is meaningless. The vaccines were designed to prevent serious illness and death, not stop transmission. Vaccinated people will still be spreading, so this passport idea is a bizarre. Only good for Big Pharma bank balances, not public health.
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26/02/2021 10:33:24 12 4
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It almost certainly does have an effect on transmission. Final data is still being worked on.
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26/02/2021 10:37:33 2 0
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Lol
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26/02/2021 10:31:54 21 16
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Needing proof of vaccine to travel internationally is understandable, but unlikely to become mandatory this year, because no-one will be able to agree how to implement an acceptable system.
Needing proof in order to go about one's ordinary day-to-day life in the UK is both Orwellian and impractical.
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26/02/2021 10:44:14 5 8
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Yes like having a driving licence to drive a car etc., or having to buy a train ticket to travel by train, equally Orwellian and impractical
/sarc
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26/02/2021 10:32:38 36 16
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And so it begins again, the vociferous minority manipulating behind the scenes. The majority of the country has no objections to a "passport/ID" card. The benefits to this far outweigh the negative.

If proof were needed put it to the country in a vote and quieten those that speak the loudest but are the few.
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26/02/2021 10:37:06 5 17
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What information will it be 'mandatory' to include on these cards? Who will put the data on them, and who will have access to that data.
Because they will not be pieces of paper, they will very smart electronic cards, and probably replicated as smartphone apps.
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26/02/2021 10:31:45 11 18
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The vaccine doesn't stop transmission, so what is the point of a vaccine passport when it is meaningless. The vaccines were designed to prevent serious illness and death, not stop transmission. Vaccinated people will still be spreading, so this passport idea is a bizarre. Only good for Big Pharma bank balances, not public health.
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26/02/2021 10:33:24 12 4
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It almost certainly does have an effect on transmission. Final data is still being worked on.
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26/02/2021 10:34:14 14 12
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How do we start a petition calling for the introduction of Vaccine Passports for the greater good of us ALL. Something to counter these bleeding heart real ale drinking sandal wearing namby pamby liberals.
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26/02/2021 10:38:34 1 4
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I heard that most of the deniers are nutter clown bots
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26/02/2021 10:50:55 3 2
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I agree with your first sentence.

You destroy your credibility with your second sentence.
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26/02/2021 10:34:48 196 58
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This is absolutely disgraceful. Vaccines aren't something only provided for the privileged. They are available, FOR FREE, to every citizen. You have to actively choose not to have it or refuse it. By doing so you actively endanger others. If you refuse it, you should have your rights restricted more than those who don't.
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26/02/2021 10:41:46 124 35
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Not quite. By refusing the vaccine you are actively deliberately choosing to restrict your own freedom of movement.
Your free choice, you live with it.
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26/02/2021 10:46:49 3 15
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or be unable to take the vaccine, as some sick people cannot take the vaccine.

if it happens it will eventually got to the courts and be classed as discriminatory
the final part would be the passports could be used for track nope I don't mean to see if you mingled in an outbreak area, it would become a digital map tracking you, you were in the pub, your phone now says you are driving, blue lights
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26/02/2021 10:42:57 11 7
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I Agree with Lord Bagg entirely, no one can make you have a jab but we need to know who has not had a jab for whateverr reason so we can make an informed decision as to how we react to such people. I wouldnt fly on a plane with someone who hasnt been injected with the vaccine for instance.
26/02/2021 15:17:47 2 4
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So enforced medication - what's next....
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26/02/2021 16:02:46 1 4
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lol find me somewhere, anywhere, in the annals of science that concludes conclusively that viruses can transmit from one person to another. It is called a theory for a reason.
26/02/2021 16:35:11 0 0
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So if you refuse the flu jab?
26/02/2021 17:18:02 2 0
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People are signing a petition against the passport scheme, not having the vaccine. I will have no objections to taking the vaccine but an extremely dubious about having to be on some database somewhere to be allowed visit any establishment and to live a normal life. I'd carry a card, but that's it.
27/02/2021 10:32:53 0 0
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If you are vaccinated then you are 90% immune so what are you worried about?
27/02/2021 14:05:09 0 0
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If you have it you should be quarantined for life - for being unable to think for yourself.
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26/02/2021 10:27:28 15 44
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Vaccine pasports / co-erced vaccination have been the hidden agenda since day 1

To put something such as this in an election manifesto would be electoral suicide, but to push it through under the guise of a pandemic is what the aim was

Vaccine pasports are the thin end of a globalist wedge that must be resisted at all cost
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26/02/2021 10:34:57 4 5
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absolutely spot on!
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26/02/2021 10:35:50 36 11
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I'd be more than happy to have such a document.
If introduced, there would need to be provisions to allow for those who genuinely cannot receive a vaccination on medical grounds. With most of us receiving a vaccination that helps protect those who cannot be given one too.
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26/02/2021 11:42:57 2 6
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And pay for it?
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26/02/2021 20:44:14 0 0
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and for those that don't want to receive it on the basis that it is evil.
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26/02/2021 10:27:28 15 44
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Vaccine pasports / co-erced vaccination have been the hidden agenda since day 1

To put something such as this in an election manifesto would be electoral suicide, but to push it through under the guise of a pandemic is what the aim was

Vaccine pasports are the thin end of a globalist wedge that must be resisted at all cost
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26/02/2021 10:35:55 4 3
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And pasports are unnecessary because the deep state can collect all the information they beed from the chip that Bill Gates has had inserted in every jab.

Now, where did I put my tinfoil hat?
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Have you noticed that if you oppose taking a vaccine you are an nutter anti-vaxxer spreading lies and fake news ?

Unless you are BAME of course, then your concerns are completely understandable and the government will treat you with kid gloves. But not if you are white.
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Thousands sign petition against vaccine passports

They need to get a life
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26/02/2021 10:46:29 39 68
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ands you need to stop being abusive in your tone towards others with views different to your own.
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26/02/2021 14:22:10 0 1
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If they are lucky and don't get the virus.

Take care
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:36:44 80 22
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No because you don't understand how herd immunity works.
The unvaccinated could be hosts for a mutation of covid that the vaccines don't work for. Then we're back at square one.
Thanks anti vaccinatiors
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Don't try explaining, he might self combust!
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:36:46 52 8
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How about:
a) the vaccine doesn't offer 100% protection (although it's pretty good)
b) some people can't have the vaccine (though no fault or choice of their own)
c) vaccines reduce the spread, the more spread, the more variants
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26/02/2021 10:36:48 126 37
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Someone should open up a petition for vaccine passports....
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26/02/2021 10:40:40 64 19
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Couldnt agree more.
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Agree
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26/02/2021 19:04:41 0 0
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Agreed - it’s the usual minority with a chip on their shoulder who think the world owes them a favour and full of their own self importance. If they don’t like what’s happening in Britain - break the travel rules and eff off.
27/02/2021 09:02:38 0 0
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Do it then.
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26/02/2021 10:32:38 36 16
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And so it begins again, the vociferous minority manipulating behind the scenes. The majority of the country has no objections to a "passport/ID" card. The benefits to this far outweigh the negative.

If proof were needed put it to the country in a vote and quieten those that speak the loudest but are the few.
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26/02/2021 10:37:06 5 17
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What information will it be 'mandatory' to include on these cards? Who will put the data on them, and who will have access to that data.
Because they will not be pieces of paper, they will very smart electronic cards, and probably replicated as smartphone apps.
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If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
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26/02/2021 11:54:03 2 0
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Agreed, it needs regulating but so do most things in our life for us to live safely.
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26/02/2021 12:20:07 1 1
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Great the more data the better. The only ones against data are criminals
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26/02/2021 10:37:21 249 42
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So what - the headline should be "Covid: Millions don't sign petition against vaccine passports".
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26/02/2021 10:59:01 90 16
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Exactly
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26/02/2021 11:19:33 11 3
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Spot on!!
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26/02/2021 14:42:51 5 9
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No it shouldn't. What else, "billions didn't die in house fire in Rochdale"?

News is supposed to report the outliers
26/02/2021 16:06:09 2 0
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It's true what you say about the number that haven't signed the petition, but in fairness, it's a system to allow smaller groups to have their point of view heard and debated. It doesn't mean anything unless they can persuade enough MP's to back them and do something about it. Even then, there are probably more MP's that think the way of the people that didn't sign the petition.
27/02/2021 13:40:32 1 0
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Replying to the Leeds Utd. supporter in the above thread.

You seem not to understand the whole purpose of the vaccination programme is to stop the spread and, more importantly, the further mutations of CV19.

If there is a significant number of people who do not get vaccinated & the virus continues to spread, it is likely the mutations will undermine the whole vaccination programme.
27/02/2021 13:56:16 0 0
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Yes. 3,746 signed it. Laughable.
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26/02/2021 10:31:45 11 18
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The vaccine doesn't stop transmission, so what is the point of a vaccine passport when it is meaningless. The vaccines were designed to prevent serious illness and death, not stop transmission. Vaccinated people will still be spreading, so this passport idea is a bizarre. Only good for Big Pharma bank balances, not public health.
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26/02/2021 10:37:33 2 0
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Lol
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26/02/2021 10:37:42 15 14
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If these vaccine objectors are so selfish that they can’t consider the harm they could do to others in society then they are abrogating their right to be part of that society. Liberty say people who don’t want the jab are being shut out of society but they are rejecting it and shutting themselves off from the rest of this society. The vaccinated have a right to protection from these naysayers.
26/02/2021 15:50:18 1 0
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But if you've been vaccinated you don't need protection from those that haven't. Do you ? Or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the vaccines ?
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26/02/2021 10:37:58 9 13
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We have a vital principle of being allowed to refuse medical treatment in this country. The vaccine passport endangers this in my view. This is dangerous wherever you stand on the issue of vaccines. Who would vote for mandatory medication? The insane?
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26/02/2021 10:40:08 11 3
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They have the right to refuse the vaccine, nobody is taking that away, it just comes with consequences.
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26/02/2021 10:42:59 4 2
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It is a matter of choice, you could choose to be vaccinated and fly with anyone or choose to decline the vaccination and be restricted to Plague Airways.

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And other countries have a right to refuse you entry if you have not been vaccinated in order to protect their population. Not sure about your argument but, you are correct, it is your choice. The passport gives people ease of travel; your choice. Such passports have been available for other diseases for decades.
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26/02/2021 10:34:14 14 12
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How do we start a petition calling for the introduction of Vaccine Passports for the greater good of us ALL. Something to counter these bleeding heart real ale drinking sandal wearing namby pamby liberals.
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26/02/2021 10:38:34 1 4
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I heard that most of the deniers are nutter clown bots
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26/02/2021 10:38:53 64 26
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Have these people nothing else to do with their time?

Instead they should be doing something productive.
No doubt all flat earth anti-vaxxers
26/02/2021 15:54:35 4 11
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have you ever considered doing the stand up circuit? you're a very funny person
26/02/2021 16:22:31 0 1
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I am also an flat earth anti-vaxxer - dont try and vaccinate the flat earth, you will no doubt fall off the edge looking for a vein and wish you had believed me as you spiral down to whatever lies beneath (probably nothing but lost biros and lose change).
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26/02/2021 10:40:43 1 1
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Right-handers of course! Lefties are discriminated against. It is time the BBC had a quota for recruiting lefties!
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26/02/2021 10:42:10 0 0
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"Does anybody know why jam jars are twisted anti clockwise to open"

If you hold the lid you can twist the jar clockwise to open.
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26/02/2021 10:43:08 0 0
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Most people are right handed.
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26/02/2021 10:47:58 0 0
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A common solution sometimes emerges when there are different ways of doing things.
But not always - such as which side of the road we drive on and whether electric switches should be up or down when on.
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26/02/2021 10:41:40 1 1
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Discrimination against left handed people as far as I can see!
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:39:01 47 20
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I believe it's 85% effective (as confirmed by scientific investigation which may not matter to you). You have no right to put me in danger if I am one of the unfortunate 15%.
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26/02/2021 10:44:49 21 41
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Sorry but by the same logic you have no right to make me take a vaccine that I dont want to
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:39:54 38 6
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No vaccine is 100% effective, if you are vaccinated you can still catch covid. Please get some facts right before talking nonsense.
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26/02/2021 10:37:58 9 13
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We have a vital principle of being allowed to refuse medical treatment in this country. The vaccine passport endangers this in my view. This is dangerous wherever you stand on the issue of vaccines. Who would vote for mandatory medication? The insane?
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26/02/2021 10:40:08 11 3
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They have the right to refuse the vaccine, nobody is taking that away, it just comes with consequences.
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26/02/2021 10:40:43 1 1
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Right-handers of course! Lefties are discriminated against. It is time the BBC had a quota for recruiting lefties!
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26/02/2021 10:42:30 0 0
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Great stuff MVS! - Happy Friday
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26/02/2021 10:41:13 381 55
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When I arrived in Greece last Summer I was chosen @ random to have a swab taken. What would have happened if I refused, prison, returned on the next plane to the UK? Did that breach my human rights? No because it was for the common good. If you choose not to be vaccinated there will be consequences. It is not all about you, this is a PUBLIC health issue not an individual one.
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26/02/2021 11:26:38 126 16
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For that reason a petition has been started for people to sign for those who are for vaccine passports
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26/02/2021 12:04:07 24 14
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Indeed. I'll go even further: no jab, no job. And that applies to my current staff as well as to future employees. The Lord protects but He does expect us to do our part.
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26/02/2021 12:10:36 7 5
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But testing is still a way forward. Some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. Also The UK authorities may refuse to give passports. A certificate, like the one for Yellow Fever might be more acceptable.
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26/02/2021 12:52:12 8 27
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And taking a vaccine with no medium or long term safety data is not also health issue?

Better results have been proven to be achievable through safe repurposed drugs like Ivermectin.
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26/02/2021 12:58:17 14 3
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Swab, non invasive, temporary discomfort, non interactive with your biology
Vaccine, semi perm, interacts with your biology.
Not comparable
I will get the jab.
Bigger problem is when the Govt put millions into a half baked app that doesnt work, get someone with track record of failure to oversee, pay your mates millions to help then go "no scrutiny, waffle waffle, baff, hmmm, pandemic you know..."
Then why don't you leave an live in N Korea if you like totalitarianism so much? You know else said it was for the common good to have papers and yellow stars on you? The Nazi's. Moron. Removed
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26/02/2021 14:29:28 1 0
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Having a test is entirely different to being forced to have a vaccination or being banned from travel or accessing services.
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26/02/2021 14:34:16 2 3
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So is Obesity, Heart Disease and many other illneses don't see anyone running round dealing with those issues hat cost money and lives. You have been drawn into the mass hysteria.
26/02/2021 21:15:29 0 0
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Aquaintance was constantly tailed by police in China, hanging around outside his house, letting him know they were watching.

Why not have that here? Police pop into your house each week and have a look around, make sure nothing dodgy going on. Imagine the cut in crime - no weapons stashed, domestic violence detected, lives saved.

All common good but liberties destroyed, end doesnt justify means.
26/02/2021 21:26:05 2 1
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Precisely not everything is against your human rights just because you don’t want to do it. The self entitled generation ??
27/02/2021 12:35:04 2 0
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Exactly, you have the freedom to not be vaccinated but companies and others have the freedom to not serve you or to let you in as a result of your choices.

Freedom isn’t a one way street
27/02/2021 13:52:48 0 1
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You mean a massive hoax.
27/02/2021 23:14:00 0 0
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If your vaccination does what it promises you need not worry about the unvaccinated as you will be protected. If you still need to worry, then what is the purpose of this experimental gene therapy dressed up as vaccination?
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26/02/2021 10:41:15 2 2
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For international travel the vaccination information could be held electronically on our existing passport’s record. Should be quite achievable.

For internal UK use it’s no so easy - a secure photocard would be necessary to avoid using someone else’s ID. Rather a pricey solution for such a short-term need.
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26/02/2021 10:29:18 20 6
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Get back under your foil hat.
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26/02/2021 10:41:40 2 4
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perhaps remove your blinkers and rose-tinted glasses?
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26/02/2021 10:41:45 73 24
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Why should people have a right to chose* to put others at risk? (*exemptions obviously for those who medically can't have one)
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26/02/2021 13:10:51 19 35
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Because we live in a free and libertarian society, banning everything that posed a danger to others would result in life being impossible, its the balance that is being argued here, and also a 100% lack of trust in the Tory govt to do anything but line their own pockets and pursue and increasingly right wing agenda, their track record is horrific, one of the worst death rates in developed world
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26/02/2021 14:26:05 2 1
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It's called free will would like to be you off here but cant
26/02/2021 17:32:49 3 0
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Because they want to be selfish and refuse to consider others. Of course it will be those who can't have the vaccine for medical reasons who will suffer the most.
is anyone being put at risk? Find me anything in the annals of science that proves viruses can be transmitted human to human. Why should people have a right to tell people they have to be part of the largest medical experiment in recorded history? Pepper, you are a massive fascist. Removed
27/02/2021 15:56:13 0 0
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Look at how disproportionate the numbers are, circa 125.000 One Hundred and Twenty Five Thousand people have died and a good majority of the deaths couldn't have been avoided due to comorbidity health issues unfortunately, consequently, the Government are Insisting 65 Million People will have to be Vaccinated, How mental is that...?
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26/02/2021 10:24:42 68 7
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Surely those wanting to travel abroad will have to have evidence of vaccination. Simple solution.... make them available to those who choose to have one.
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26/02/2021 14:17:49 24 6
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The worry if this is that anti vaccine people allow the virus to mutate and hence endanger the vaccine itself that we have had in our millions. Is that correct, no. Why should I or my family be exposed to danger line this. I have my rights too.
26/02/2021 17:45:49 0 0
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I think nobody is forcing someone to accept a certificate, but people who do not want one do not want anybody else to have one either !
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26/02/2021 10:34:48 196 58
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This is absolutely disgraceful. Vaccines aren't something only provided for the privileged. They are available, FOR FREE, to every citizen. You have to actively choose not to have it or refuse it. By doing so you actively endanger others. If you refuse it, you should have your rights restricted more than those who don't.
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26/02/2021 10:41:46 124 35
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Not quite. By refusing the vaccine you are actively deliberately choosing to restrict your own freedom of movement.
Your free choice, you live with it.
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26/02/2021 13:49:10 3 8
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So we either accept an experimental vaccine in which we don't know the long term side effects OR we lose some of our freedoms? This is a slippery slope towards an authoritarian society. We don't even know if the vaccine will stop transmission!
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26/02/2021 16:04:43 1 3
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not at all. by telling people they can't go somewhere if they don't have a vaccine you are restricting someones freedoms on the basis of propaganda around a disease that is yet to be isolated or even proven to exist, based upon your own petty fears. Have you ever heard of the Nazis?
26/02/2021 16:42:07 0 1
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And you are putting others at risk, those who can't have it.
26/02/2021 20:50:36 0 0
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"Your free choice, you live with it."

It is your free choice to support vaccine passports, but you live with the consequence that you'll be turned into a human pincushion for any experimental vax the gov deems fit. Every sniffle in future, big pharma will lobby gov to add their latest jab/booster to the list.

The same short-sighted supporters called this conspiracy theory last year.
27/02/2021 17:04:56 0 0
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If that is the case then those choosing not to have the vaccine have not right to complain.
27/02/2021 23:31:10 0 0
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wrong logic
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26/02/2021 10:30:24 6 5
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If more than half the population sign the petition I'd go along with it.
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26/02/2021 10:48:10 3 0
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Can't you make your own mind up?
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26/02/2021 10:24:52 365 81
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What about the rights of the rest of society who have to come into contact with the unvaccinated? Do they count?
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26/02/2021 10:32:03 17 39
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Surely if you’re vulnerable or worried about COVID, you’ll have a jab and be protected; therefore you won’t need to worry if you come into contact with the ‘unvaccinated’.
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26/02/2021 10:44:53 18 2
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That's incorrect. No vaccine offers 100% protection.
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26/02/2021 10:41:54 6 17
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The fourth Reich is coming in this country, too...
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26/02/2021 10:42:10 0 0
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"Does anybody know why jam jars are twisted anti clockwise to open"

If you hold the lid you can twist the jar clockwise to open.
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26/02/2021 10:42:30 60 27
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100000 signatures in 2 days since there was a suggestion of the need for passports - Have the antivaxxers colluded with the so-called civil rights anti ID card barmpots and been busy. . If the vaccination / passports protects others then they are necessary. The choice is yours but the rest have a right to protection. There will be still be two issues - here and abroad
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26/02/2021 20:34:53 4 11
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they don't protect anyone. You have been tricked into thinking you need protection by the terrorist organisations that are the UK gov, the NHS, and the WHO. Time to wake up Doccox.
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26/02/2021 10:40:43 1 1
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Right-handers of course! Lefties are discriminated against. It is time the BBC had a quota for recruiting lefties!
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26/02/2021 10:42:30 0 0
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Great stuff MVS! - Happy Friday
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26/02/2021 10:37:58 9 13
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We have a vital principle of being allowed to refuse medical treatment in this country. The vaccine passport endangers this in my view. This is dangerous wherever you stand on the issue of vaccines. Who would vote for mandatory medication? The insane?
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26/02/2021 10:42:59 4 2
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It is a matter of choice, you could choose to be vaccinated and fly with anyone or choose to decline the vaccination and be restricted to Plague Airways.

Does anybody know why jam jars are twisted anti clockwise to open; And who get to decide this sort of thing? Removed
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26/02/2021 10:43:08 0 0
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Most people are right handed.
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26/02/2021 10:44:09 0 0
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Well that puts the cat amongst the pigeons
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26/02/2021 10:37:58 9 13
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We have a vital principle of being allowed to refuse medical treatment in this country. The vaccine passport endangers this in my view. This is dangerous wherever you stand on the issue of vaccines. Who would vote for mandatory medication? The insane?
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26/02/2021 10:43:11 5 2
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And other countries have a right to refuse you entry if you have not been vaccinated in order to protect their population. Not sure about your argument but, you are correct, it is your choice. The passport gives people ease of travel; your choice. Such passports have been available for other diseases for decades.
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26/02/2021 10:43:35 65 11
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If people don't have the vaccine they simply cannot travel out of the UK. This is not restricting freedoms. Its simply protecting the health of people in other countries. It should be the same for all nations. Its up to the individual to decide. Being someone who has already had the vaccine I am keen to protect myself, family and anyone else I may come into contact with in the UK or overseas!
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26/02/2021 11:20:56 20 5
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The issue is the use of a passport for domestic activities. Clearly our government can't control what other countries chose to do and there is precedent for international travel (yellow fever etc). There isn't any precedent for domestic use.
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26/02/2021 11:24:46 5 1
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They're talking about banning people from supermarkets. That's restricting freedoms. Don't think they won't do it, they've banned us all from seeing friends and family for most of the last year now.
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26/02/2021 13:21:48 7 2
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What if I’m returning home as a dual national which I plan to do. Leave nanny state UK. There’s no requirement to have vaccination in my destination country, but still you’ll force me to have an unproven vaccine that actually means very little given the strains and the fact you can still pass it to others.
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26/02/2021 20:38:44 0 0
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lol you are Hitler and I claim my prize.
26/02/2021 21:04:52 0 0
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Am travelling home to Switzerland, where there are 7 deaths daily, with less than 4% of the population vaccinated. How about if the UK would pay the elderly a proper pension, so they could stay in their houses, rather than having to go out to work, sharing flats or staying in lousy old people homes where they get infected by the thousand? It's all distraction tactics...typical.
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26/02/2021 10:25:37 101 11
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A petition urging the government not to introduce vaccine passports could be debated by MPs after it gained more than 200,000 signatures.

The online petition says the passports could be "used to restrict the rights of people who have refused a Covid-19 vaccine".

Proof of vaccination could allow people to travel or attend large events.

What is to stop airlines and other countries adopting this?
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I really hope they do. I hope all private companies restrict access for those maniac anti-vaxxers
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26/02/2021 11:26:07 15 8
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If a person refuses a vaccine supplied by the NHS against any disease, then the NHS should refuse free of charge treatment to that person for that disease.
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26/02/2021 11:40:33 11 17
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You have no right to decide what others do with their bodies! Who do you think you are?! People are being harmed by this vaccines, see Gibraltar as a perfect example. Be careful what you're saying. As if you're pushing this onto people and something will go wrong, then you could be liable! I'd be quiet if I was you!
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26/02/2021 14:24:08 3 0
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Not every one is anti vaxxers so get your facts right before you spout the rubbish from your mouth
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26/02/2021 10:43:08 0 0
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Most people are right handed.
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26/02/2021 10:44:09 0 0
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Well that puts the cat amongst the pigeons
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26/02/2021 10:44:11 166 15
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If you have ever visited a south east asia then you need to have a malaria jab, whats the difference? Countries or airlines are not asking for your full medical history just if you have had a covid jab. If they was asking for more info than just the covid jab then i understand peoples concerns but this isnt the case
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26/02/2021 11:02:39 59 17
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I think the concern is they don't want them to be a domestic thing. I have had the jab and I don't want to show that I've had it to just go to the pub, just doesn't sit right with me. With international travel vaccine certifactes already exist so I don't see any issue there really.
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26/02/2021 11:08:33 9 10
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The difference is the malaria jab took 10 yrs + to be signed off. COVID 19 jab took 10 months. If too are in a rush that’s fine, but don’t insist others should rush with you.
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26/02/2021 11:21:50 10 4
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You don't need a malaria jab to visit SE Asia. And having a covid jab doesn't mean you can't spread covid.
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26/02/2021 13:39:28 2 0
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Not strictly true re. malaria, but yellow fever for instance often has a jab cert you need to enter some african countries.

And quite right too - I got a yellow fever the hard way from Zambia, which is generally considered low risk. It is downright hideous, though I at least I didn't go yellow!
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26/02/2021 13:41:30 5 8
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The main difference is that the malaria jab has been proven to be safe long term. The Pfizer & Moderna jabs are the very first mRNA vaccines to be distributed to the human population. The AstraZeneca jab is based upon a genetically modified version of a chimpanzee adenovirus. We simply don't know the long term safety of the mRNA vaccines or the long term effectiveness of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
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26/02/2021 13:52:51 5 10
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the difference is that the malaria jab is for your protection. And the covid vaccine is a medical experiment for a virus that hasn't been isolated and coincidentally shares its symptoms with a number of other illnesses, all of which have seemingly disappeared this year.
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26/02/2021 14:21:10 0 0
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I had a jab when we went to Belize. 3 weeks in they told us to stop taking our tablets as we had been given the wrong jab
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26/02/2021 14:26:55 0 1
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They are welcome to ask, and I am perfectly able to tell them.
26/02/2021 15:16:01 6 0
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what a load of bull... ive been to 3 countries there and there is no legal requirement for malaria jab or even be checked for it
26/02/2021 16:44:27 1 0
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You cannot be vaccinated against malaria - no such vaccine exists. Tablets are taken depending on the area visited endemic with the malaria infected mosquitos.
26/02/2021 17:06:22 0 0
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"If you have ever visited a south east asia then you need to have a malaria jab, whats the difference?"

There's no such thing as a malaria jab and having travelled and lived extensively in Asia, I can tell you that there are no checks to see if you have taken prophylactics.

African countries often want to see your yellow fever card.

If it is a COVID card, not an app, I would not object.
26/02/2021 17:17:43 0 0
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I've never heard o a malaria jab - ar you sure about this one? Are you not confusing with yellow fever ??
26/02/2021 17:53:40 0 0
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you do not have to have a malaria jab there isn't one. it is a course of pills. most areas are malaria free. I have travelled to Laos, Thailand and Vietnam many times. The only country that required malaria pills was Myanmar
26/02/2021 18:29:25 0 0
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No you don’t need a malaria jab to visit south east Asia. Which countries you on about ?
27/02/2021 15:49:16 0 0
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the whole LD and Anti SD and Mask wearing is totally bizarre and has split our once tolerant society,
27/02/2021 20:49:05 0 0
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What a ridiculous comparison using a malaria jab as an example. Just shows the limit of some intelligence. And have you looked at the horrendous numbers of deaths and adverse reactions across the world from the jab. No... didn't think so.
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26/02/2021 10:44:12 6 13
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The level of ignorance on here is staggering. I would suggest people do some research before regurgitating right wing nonsense. Either that or move to China, where their hardline views would fit right in with a one party state system. The vaccinr doesn't stop transmission. So a vaccine passport proves nothing and is worthless. Wake up !!
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26/02/2021 10:45:06 8 4
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The vaccine has been proven to reduce transmission. Nobody ever said it would stop it. It's about risk management.
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MVS
26/02/2021 10:31:54 21 16
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Needing proof of vaccine to travel internationally is understandable, but unlikely to become mandatory this year, because no-one will be able to agree how to implement an acceptable system.
Needing proof in order to go about one's ordinary day-to-day life in the UK is both Orwellian and impractical.
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26/02/2021 10:44:14 5 8
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Yes like having a driving licence to drive a car etc., or having to buy a train ticket to travel by train, equally Orwellian and impractical
/sarc
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MVS
26/02/2021 10:50:26 3 1
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If you think those things are in any way analogous then you have probably already succumbed to the retraining available in Room 101
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26/02/2021 14:18:31 0 0
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Should the unvaccinated be barred from going to Tescos for food?
Or visiting their GP?
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26/02/2021 10:44:14 3 5
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Human rights must be at the heart of any decision - the right of choice being prime. Passporting if restricted to travel is understandable but the liability to otherwise discriminate must be resisted. It is not solely personal choice or religion or culture that determines whether to vaccinate, some on medical grounds. Dangerous precedent if extended beyond travel.
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26/02/2021 10:48:40 3 1
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Why? You have a right to refuse a vaccine. I have a right not to be infected by you. If you want to drive you have to have a driving licence. If you choose not to get a licence, you don't drive.
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26/02/2021 10:44:17 2 0
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Most people don't care what happens next. We all need life to return to normal.
If people don't want a vaccine, that is their business. The vaccine is not immunisation, it reduces the risk of severe symptoms, just like normal influenza vaccine. Wait until next winter and then see what happens. The pro-lockdowners and anti-vaxxers can all join in screaming at each other during another outbreak,
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26/02/2021 10:44:35 98 19
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How about a petition for those in favour?
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jon
26/02/2021 12:39:46 26 5
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Would be the majority, given the vaccine take up. But I’m not sure we need proof domestically e.g. to go to the pub or theatre. It may be required for employment. If I was placing my mother ion a care home I’d want to ensure all the staff had been vaccinated. Those who don’t get the jab may find they can’t take flights or book holidays abroad or face similar restrictions.
26/02/2021 17:24:55 0 0
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just signed it
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26/02/2021 10:44:39 152 32
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So far 17 million say yes, 200,000 say no. No real contest.
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26/02/2021 11:40:01 49 61
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Ever dreamt of living in 1930s Germany Parker?

I'm having the vaccine so it's not just an antivaxxer argument, this is about the legal establishment of a medical record accessible by any public body in any country. Once you have that on this scale you're stuffed.

And if that doesn't persuade the inevitable plucked from the sky charge for the pleasure might!
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26/02/2021 12:11:13 0 0
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Details please
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26/02/2021 12:27:57 3 5
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non-consent, is not consent
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26/02/2021 13:26:50 2 11
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Where are you getting 17 Million, the vaccine vials half of which ended in the bin, many of those who were forced or in sick bays elderly going no where they did not vote for this !
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26/02/2021 14:22:38 1 1
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Where you get your figures from a lot more than that haven't had their jabs
26/02/2021 16:32:35 5 2
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What a load of tosh. I'll probably have the jab when my age group is reached to protect others. But needing to prove I'd had it to go to a pub or sports event is something different. It is a persons individual right, the vac either works and you have nothing to worry about or it doesn't and a passport is worthless.
27/02/2021 10:37:43 0 0
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Hahaha! You made your choice. You are immune. Leave the rest of us alone.
27/02/2021 23:31:41 0 0
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just shows the level of brainwash, not who is right.
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26/02/2021 10:44:41 10 12
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I really cannot believe the majority of these comments. The population have their civil rights curtailed for just short of a year and seem to think it should become the norm. The government will be delighted if they read these, they will think that they can introduce any legislation and the people will slavishly obey!
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26/02/2021 11:13:06 2 0
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Over 122,000 people have died so far as a result of this virus. Does this mean nothing to you?

I find your selfishness hard to comprehend.

Our society has made huge sacrifices in order to minimise the deaths and misery of this wretched virus, and all you can do is whine. Grow up!
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26/02/2021 10:39:01 47 20
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I believe it's 85% effective (as confirmed by scientific investigation which may not matter to you). You have no right to put me in danger if I am one of the unfortunate 15%.
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26/02/2021 10:44:49 21 41
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Sorry but by the same logic you have no right to make me take a vaccine that I dont want to
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26/02/2021 10:50:51 17 3
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Your choice, accept the consequences. This isn't any different from other diseases which require vaccination certificates when travelling i.e. polio, yellow fever, etc.
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26/02/2021 11:00:23 21 4
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Nobody is saying you have to have the vaccine, just that you will need to accept the consequences of your choice.
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26/02/2021 11:22:44 30 5
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No one is forcing you to have the vaccine. But if you choose to not play your part in society by refusing it (as is your right), then society needs to act to protect itself from you (as is our collective right). It's completely your choice: isolate yourself from society or not as you wish.
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26/02/2021 13:37:31 4 0
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Of course you can not have a vaccine if you don't want to - provided what we want to do without the additional risk to which we would be exposed by you or other people who choose not to be vaccinated being present. So "don't have the vaccine but stay out of my home/pub/workplace etc."
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26/02/2021 10:32:03 17 39
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Surely if you’re vulnerable or worried about COVID, you’ll have a jab and be protected; therefore you won’t need to worry if you come into contact with the ‘unvaccinated’.
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26/02/2021 10:44:53 18 2
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That's incorrect. No vaccine offers 100% protection.
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26/02/2021 13:45:50 2 0
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Indeed - but there are consequences to your choice. Those consequences at the moment can affect me with no consequence to you. If the consequence to you is you don't get access to certain things without a passport, that gives you some 'skin in the game' when you'd otherwise be free to affect my life with no consequence to yourself.
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:44:59 42 10
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The more people in society who take the vaccine the more the the virus will spread will be controlled and less people needing hospital care, allowing the NHS to return to caring for non-Covid patients. Whose who chose not to get vaccinate are putting their own selfish beliefs before the wider good of society.
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26/02/2021 10:44:12 6 13
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The level of ignorance on here is staggering. I would suggest people do some research before regurgitating right wing nonsense. Either that or move to China, where their hardline views would fit right in with a one party state system. The vaccinr doesn't stop transmission. So a vaccine passport proves nothing and is worthless. Wake up !!
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26/02/2021 10:45:06 8 4
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The vaccine has been proven to reduce transmission. Nobody ever said it would stop it. It's about risk management.
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26/02/2021 11:07:10 0 2
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'Proven' by who? The Pharma that made it? Even the Gov say it doesn't reduce transmission. Where do you get this tosh from?
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26/02/2021 10:29:41 140 281
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If you have been vaccinated why worry about those who havent

Its either
a) you dont believe the vaccine works
b) you like to tell others to do what you want

Im guessing in your case its b
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26/02/2021 10:45:30 23 5
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Do you wear a seat belt?
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26/02/2021 10:47:40 10 26
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Yes, it protects me not you
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26/02/2021 10:45:36 5 5
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As a Human Rights Lawyer, does anyone know Keir Starmer's view on this (oh, and I'd like to know what he thinks about Shamima Begam too!).
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26/02/2021 10:56:18 2 1
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you'll never get any opinion on anything from Captain Hindsight
Oh no, not anther pointless petition to keep the twatterati busy.

Millions signed one for a peoples' vote on Brexit. How did that go?
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MH
26/02/2021 10:45:54 8 4
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We have many rules for participating in society at many levels -pay your taxes, maintain personal hygiene, behave decently towards other people.
Vaccine passports are just another one of those rules. If you want to go to the pub/get on a plane during covid -get the vaccine. Simple. Your choice (unless of course you haven't been offered - perhaps they should be brought in after everyone is offered
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26/02/2021 10:50:43 7 7
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None of what you list are 'rules of society' since when did you have to show your tax return to enter a pub or supermarket. What absolute utter tosh.
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26/02/2021 10:36:11 24 8
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ID cards, mandatory in some other EU countries, MMR jab is also basically mandatory in some other countries. Vaccine passport will be mandatory in other countries. Yet mention any of the above and you get left wing agitators and the human rights people, who aren't concerned about the majority.
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26/02/2021 11:03:31 11 0
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Agreed. You cannot travel to many tropical countries without a yellow fever vaccine certificate. This protects only you, not the general population.
Why shouldn't the same apply to Covid vaccine which shows protection of the individual and the general public.
There are very few cases of yellow fever among travellers, and many don't know the symptoms are like Ebola
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26/02/2021 10:23:46 259 87
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See the human rights groups are at it again, the only exception should be on medical grounds. No vac no access “Simple”
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26/02/2021 10:46:24 56 117
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What a lovely society you propose

Why havent you been saying this for years with all other vaccinations, why are you just piping up now, 77th?
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26/02/2021 10:52:53 24 17
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In my 50s dear, The difference is the ease of spread that this virus has shown. Your society would watch people die, what a lovely person you are!!!!!!!!
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26/02/2021 11:27:00 17 11
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A lot have been saying it for years, eg no MMR vaccine, no access to state schools. Hopefully COVID will bring this topic to a sensible conclusion as the anti-vaxers have been able to inflict their nutty beliefs on us, to the detriment of others, for far too long.
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26/02/2021 12:46:51 6 1
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I have certificates for vaccines I had as a child. These diseases are no longer a threat so they are no longer needed. Covid-19 is a world wide threat. It is your choice whether you have the vaccine or not. If for having the vaccine injures you it affects the countries you would be able to visit. If you choose not to have the vaccine you also choose the restrictions that come with that decision
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26/02/2021 13:25:14 1 0
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Defo 77
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26/02/2021 14:00:11 2 0
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Other than medical reasons why would anyone not want something that saves lives - theirs or otherwise?? It’s same people who have refused to distance and keep to rules that have cost more lives in this pandemic and if they choose not to have vaccine now then fine but don’t call it discrimination when they aren’t allowed same access as others because it will be Only their fault
26/02/2021 15:42:51 3 0
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And how do you thing Smallpox was eradicated? By a very successful vaccination program, it was just accepted that it was the best thing to do.
Look at the issues we now have with Measles because vaccination rates have fallen significantly.
The trouble with society now is everyone believes they have rights and entitlement but have no concept of responsibility.
26/02/2021 16:03:45 3 0
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Could it possibly be because COVID has killed over 100k people in this country over the past year? Maybe you missed that...
26/02/2021 17:10:19 1 0
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If we go abroad and need jabs, we get jabs. Only the selfish wouldnt. And those refusing the jab are selfish. The only people who can't see have there heads stuffed up there own poo chutes on top of there high towers made of pure self rightiousness. Sooo, pull your head out, wash your hair and climb down and get the jab.
26/02/2021 17:32:09 0 0
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Perhaps we SHOULD say it for other vaccines
26/02/2021 17:39:34 1 0
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A lot of people have been saying this for years - for example tuberculosis can return if enough people refuse to be vaccinated for it - or polio -or smallpox or any of these diseases - which haven't gone away - but most people take the vaccines so they remain suppressed.
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27/02/2021 15:49:31 0 0
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Look at how disproportionate the numbers are, circa 125.000 One Hundred and Twenty Five Thousand people have died and a good majority of the deaths couldn't have been avoided due to comorbidity health issues unfortunately, consequently, the Government are Insisting 65 Million People will have to be Vaccinated, How mental is that...?
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26/02/2021 10:46:26 7 0
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ECHR will be kept busy unless a global view is taken to restrict to travel only ..... and that is hugely doubtful.
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26/02/2021 10:36:30 72 47
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Thousands sign petition against vaccine passports

They need to get a life
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26/02/2021 10:46:29 39 68
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ands you need to stop being abusive in your tone towards others with views different to your own.
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26/02/2021 10:56:20 15 12
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Oh dear, i wouldn't say the comment is abusive.
Just because YOU'RE offended it doesn't make YOU right
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26/02/2021 11:29:21 12 11
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I don't see any abuse there. I see antivaxxers as potentially spreading death.
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26/02/2021 14:09:21 1 4
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And you need to have grammar lessons
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26/02/2021 14:23:28 2 1
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This is a public health matter, let's not forget that.
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26/02/2021 14:30:10 1 1
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Lol that’s not abusive dummy
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26/02/2021 10:46:37 12 5
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If you decide not to be vaccinated that is your choice. But as always with choices come consequences. If airlines, Insurance companies, bars and shops decide to demand proof, then those are the consequences.
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26/02/2021 10:46:48 34 9
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The antivaxers and the lunatic left are at it again. Pure and simple having the vaccination is a choice and if one doesn't have it then so be it. But such reckless action could have serious health consequences that one has to live with. But whatever you do don't shove your radical anti vaccine agenda down our throats.
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26/02/2021 11:50:10 8 11
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It's not just an antivaxxer issue. Based on your wanton desire for a vaccine ID, what argument do you have for your entire medical record not be made available to any organisation or individual that makes it a requirement? Should we add mental health issues to your version of utopia?

And I'm having the vaccine.
BC
26/02/2021 20:43:41 0 0
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its not radical, its just following the science mate
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26/02/2021 10:34:48 196 58
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This is absolutely disgraceful. Vaccines aren't something only provided for the privileged. They are available, FOR FREE, to every citizen. You have to actively choose not to have it or refuse it. By doing so you actively endanger others. If you refuse it, you should have your rights restricted more than those who don't.
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26/02/2021 10:46:49 3 15
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or be unable to take the vaccine, as some sick people cannot take the vaccine.

if it happens it will eventually got to the courts and be classed as discriminatory
the final part would be the passports could be used for track nope I don't mean to see if you mingled in an outbreak area, it would become a digital map tracking you, you were in the pub, your phone now says you are driving, blue lights
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26/02/2021 10:46:59 50 23
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The Queen spot on, think of other people for the first time in your selfish irresponsible little lives
BC
26/02/2021 20:43:12 2 0
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so everyone must get an unproven, vaccine and take part in a medical experiment so that you can feel safe? Stanley you are the single most selfish breathing thing. Come back to humanity please!
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26/02/2021 10:28:41 621 134
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Not having a vaccination is a choice.

If you make that choice accept the consequences and don't whinge about your human rights.
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26/02/2021 10:47:17 81 153
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Well, for some, who have certain medical conditions, don't have the same choice as you or I.
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26/02/2021 11:09:15 63 19
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What medical condition prevents you from getting vaccinated? How many need to be afflicted before you can justify inconveniencing everyone else?
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26/02/2021 11:16:37 54 5
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For those who have a relevant medical condition, can alway apply to their GP / Consultant for a letter stating that in their case, they don't recommend any vaccination. That should be applicable to the UK. As for foreign countries, we have no jurisdiction there.
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26/02/2021 11:32:14 24 1
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Be sensible for people like you there will be an exception.
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26/02/2021 11:48:00 17 0
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yes, medical conditions are problematic.

if one has a condition and can't take a Yellow Fever vaccination jab, then countries like Bolivia, Kenya, Nigeria, etc might not allow you to come in through their borders.

similarly, if one can't get a Covid Jab because of a medical conditions, sadly the governments of many countries might not allow people to come into their countries.
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26/02/2021 12:09:55 7 1
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You'll get an exemption certificate.
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26/02/2021 12:28:45 13 4
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If you have a condition that prevents having it then a passport could say that - fair enough. Unless there is a medical reason I am happy for the passports if it allows me the freedom I would like to have. Sadly too many people are just too lazy to go and get this vaccination. That being the case then take away some of their rights is my answer.
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26/02/2021 12:28:58 17 2
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Can't and won't are different things though. People refusing the vaccine due to ignorance / stupidity need to understand there may be negative consequences (over and above the increased likelihood of death from the virus).
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26/02/2021 12:50:43 5 2
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Fair point well made, and for those there should be exemptions and reasonable adjustments if they havevalid and recorded health conditions, not the made up nonsense used by the anti mask/ covid deniers etc who make us reasons to not wear mask.
If you refuse a vaccine, then accept the restrictions of that decision. don't cry like a child sent to his / her room.
#thatslife
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26/02/2021 12:48:46 5 1
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well they don't travel abroad then!
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26/02/2021 13:10:17 5 0
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This applies to many medical conditions. Many people can't drive because of a condition or, have to travel abroad without insurance because the insurance companies see them as too high a risk. The only option for them would be compulsory testing before travelling.
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26/02/2021 13:14:29 0 0
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Do you mean that they need to be careful about not travelling?
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26/02/2021 13:16:41 3 0
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I don’t know what those conditions may be but you could mark the vaccine passport as ‘medically exempt’.
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26/02/2021 13:27:15 0 1
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This could ultimately leave us with a choice - discriminate directly against those who CHOOSE not to or discriminate indirectly against those who cannot and are thus forced to shield in perpetuity.

So, reluctantly, I am forced to the view that for those who can choose, the offer should be a programme, not a menu.
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26/02/2021 13:37:15 1 1
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Ok, so that's a shame, but it doesn't change the situation for the vast majority of the rest of the country. We shouldn't all be penalised because of your specific situation.
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26/02/2021 14:09:22 0 1
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Yes you are correct but on the other hand these people could be given exemption passports. Why should people who take the vaccine e penalised by not having the right to a vaccine passport, which we probably will need for foreign travel in any event.
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26/02/2021 14:09:57 3 0
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Contact your MP and demand that any system introduced allows this to be placed upon your electronic vaccination record. The validity to be exempt on medical grounds will not valid just because you say so. It will be authorised by qualified medical practitioner(s)
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26/02/2021 14:12:08 1 0
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Sorry, do not understand your argument. The passport is to 'proove' you have had the jabs. I have a certain medical condition -T1DM- but it is still my choice wether to have the jab or not. If say I was allergic to the jab then I would expect that there will be an appropriate certificate to cover that, but it will still be up to venues to admit or not.
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26/02/2021 14:39:07 1 0
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That old chestnut goes without saying. Of course there should be a medical expemption...but thats only a small number in comparison.
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26/02/2021 14:35:59 1 0
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ipsa, no right thinking person would ever castigate anyone who was unable to take the vaccine for health reasona, it is those who are unwilling for no real reasons other than sheer stupidity that this post is aimed at. I am fortunate that my health allows me to have the vaccine, which I have done today but I have seen stickers on lamposts imploring people not to have the jab, pasted by lunatics!!
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26/02/2021 10:47:28 7 8
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The vaccine either stops you getting the virus altogether or it just reduces severity of the symptoms, which is it?
Either way, as long as you are vaccinated what difference does it make if you are standing next to a person who has been vaccinated or not?
If it stops you getting it, you’re protected, and if it doesn’t it’s irrelevant whether the person you are standing next to is vaccinated or not
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26/02/2021 10:49:45 4 2
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You don't get it, The more unvaccinated people the greater chance of a new strain that may beat our current vaccine.
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26/02/2021 10:53:04 4 0
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No vaccine is 100% effective. Its all about reducing risk, not eliminating it.
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26/02/2021 10:55:48 3 1
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Totally missing the point
Vaccinated = less likely to pass on the virus, much less likely to be burden on society's health system, bottom line safer.
So would you rather stand next to someone who was vaccinated or someone who wasn't?
Personally I totally support the concept of a Vaccination Passport to enable travel, work, etc. Those that choose not to have the vaccination - their choice.
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26/02/2021 11:11:46 3 1
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It's not that binary. Some who have the vaccine will be fully protected some will still have symptoms but less severe. A small percentage will get no protection from the vaccine.
There are also those who cannot have the vaccine for medical reasons.
You have the right not to get the vaccine, you do not have the right to be exempt from the consequences of your choice.
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26/02/2021 11:17:03 0 1
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And what about the people who would have the vaccine to protect themselves but for a medical reason cannot, don't they have the right to know they are safe to stand next to someone ?
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26/02/2021 10:47:34 8 4
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If you want to travel abroad, I would think the issue regarding a " Vaccination Passport ", would rely upon the laws of the Country you are travelling to.....???
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26/02/2021 10:57:16 6 0
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Spot on.

If a foreign country puts the UK on a travel ban list, then you cannot fly there. If a foreign country insists on you having a clean covid test less than 48 hours before flying there, then you cannot fly there without said test result.

The UK is currently operating the above and could add a vaccine passport to the rules to protect the UK and its citizens from further variants.
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26/02/2021 10:45:30 23 5
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Do you wear a seat belt?
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26/02/2021 10:47:40 10 26
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Yes, it protects me not you
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26/02/2021 11:05:54 17 3
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No it means some poor police officer or fire brigade or ambulance worker doesn't have to come and scrape you off the road.
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26/02/2021 12:04:47 10 1
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Wearing a seatbelt is also to protect the other people in your car. In the event of a crash anyone not wearing a seat belt will be thrown forwards, sometimes from the rear seat forwards and out of the windscreen. There are loads of incidences where unsecured rear seat passengers have killed people wearing seat belts in the front.
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26/02/2021 13:18:50 4 2
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So, it’s only about “you” then?
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26/02/2021 14:24:00 1 0
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Ok, do you wear a mask?
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Bee
26/02/2021 14:32:36 1 0
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If you're not the only person in the car it also protects others as you are less likely to become a missile within the car in the event of an accident.
Does anybody know why jam jars are twisted anti clockwise to open; And who get to decide this sort of thing? Removed
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26/02/2021 10:47:58 0 0
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A common solution sometimes emerges when there are different ways of doing things.
But not always - such as which side of the road we drive on and whether electric switches should be up or down when on.
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26/02/2021 10:30:24 6 5
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If more than half the population sign the petition I'd go along with it.
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26/02/2021 10:48:10 3 0
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Can't you make your own mind up?
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26/02/2021 10:48:32 8 6
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Yet another way of creating further division and animosity in our society.
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26/02/2021 11:06:14 4 1
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Those that choose not to have the vaccine are essentially sticking two fingers up to the rest of society, not caring about anyone else but themselves and going around as if Covid 19 doesn't exist infecting others.

Science tells us Covid 19 exists, and it also tells us the vaccines are safe. Which bits of science are these people selecting?
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26/02/2021 10:44:14 3 5
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Human rights must be at the heart of any decision - the right of choice being prime. Passporting if restricted to travel is understandable but the liability to otherwise discriminate must be resisted. It is not solely personal choice or religion or culture that determines whether to vaccinate, some on medical grounds. Dangerous precedent if extended beyond travel.
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26/02/2021 10:48:40 3 1
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Why? You have a right to refuse a vaccine. I have a right not to be infected by you. If you want to drive you have to have a driving licence. If you choose not to get a licence, you don't drive.
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26/02/2021 10:57:06 3 2
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You have a vaccine to protect by choice so why impose that on others. Why not legislate on the other numerous possible infections?

You don't say about those that for medical reasons, do not have a choice. Segregation? Restricted movement? Happy with that?
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26/02/2021 10:36:48 126 37
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Someone should open up a petition for vaccine passports....
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26/02/2021 10:40:40 64 19
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Couldnt agree more.
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26/02/2021 14:14:27 2 2
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Me too.
Does anybody know why jam jars are twisted anti clockwise to open; And who get to decide this sort of thing? Removed
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26/02/2021 10:41:40 1 1
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Discrimination against left handed people as far as I can see!
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26/02/2021 10:34:48 196 58
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This is absolutely disgraceful. Vaccines aren't something only provided for the privileged. They are available, FOR FREE, to every citizen. You have to actively choose not to have it or refuse it. By doing so you actively endanger others. If you refuse it, you should have your rights restricted more than those who don't.
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26/02/2021 10:42:57 11 7
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I Agree with Lord Bagg entirely, no one can make you have a jab but we need to know who has not had a jab for whateverr reason so we can make an informed decision as to how we react to such people. I wouldnt fly on a plane with someone who hasnt been injected with the vaccine for instance.
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26/02/2021 11:39:08 7 6
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So why didn't you care before now, about other people's vaccinations? Guarantee you've flown alongside plenty of people who haven't been vaccinated for a plethora of viruses.
27/02/2021 10:33:43 0 0
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Well you are 90% protected so what are you worried about. Something else?
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MVS
26/02/2021 10:37:06 5 17
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What information will it be 'mandatory' to include on these cards? Who will put the data on them, and who will have access to that data.
Because they will not be pieces of paper, they will very smart electronic cards, and probably replicated as smartphone apps.
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26/02/2021 10:43:44 7 4
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If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
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MVS
26/02/2021 10:53:50 4 4
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That's what Winston Smith thought!
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26/02/2021 11:54:57 1 0
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This is true but it still needs regulating.
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26/02/2021 10:49:37 1 1
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we need to do something on this issue. i know people feel their civil liberties are curtailed and they are far to often but we have to look after ourselves. lets hope in the near future that we can once again be able to go about our business and lets not forget all those who sadly are no longer with us.
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26/02/2021 10:49:43 6 10
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Narcissistic people believe they should be able to do what they want, no matter how it affects others.

Narcissistic people have less empathy.

Narcissistic people have a hard time believing anyone knows better than they do.

Not surprising the that 50% of Brexit Party supporters intend not to have a vaccine. ??
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26/02/2021 10:52:33 5 1
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And as usual, every single HYS leads back to Brexit or the Third Reich...no matter what the original subject....
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26/02/2021 10:59:15 2 1
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You'll probably find that the ones complaining against reality and facts are still the remainers.
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26/02/2021 10:47:28 7 8
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The vaccine either stops you getting the virus altogether or it just reduces severity of the symptoms, which is it?
Either way, as long as you are vaccinated what difference does it make if you are standing next to a person who has been vaccinated or not?
If it stops you getting it, you’re protected, and if it doesn’t it’s irrelevant whether the person you are standing next to is vaccinated or not
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26/02/2021 10:49:45 4 2
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You don't get it, The more unvaccinated people the greater chance of a new strain that may beat our current vaccine.
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26/02/2021 10:50:09 7 5
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I've just had my vaccine this morning, I'm fine with vaccine passports, if people want to choose to not have it thats fine, but when they go to a concert or other event, let them instead have to sit and have a lateral flow test every time before they get access to the venue, in the end its for other peoples safety, not their own, they can make an informed decision on whats most convenient.
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26/02/2021 10:50:15 6 3
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The way I see it we have competing rights issues here. Yes, it should be your choice not to have the vaccine. But it is also true that people should have the right to travel/enter venues/everything else and have a reasonable guarantee that it is safe to do so.

It's a judgement call, plain and simple. I would hope they go with the one that is in the interests of the majority.
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26/02/2021 10:44:14 5 8
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Yes like having a driving licence to drive a car etc., or having to buy a train ticket to travel by train, equally Orwellian and impractical
/sarc
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MVS
26/02/2021 10:50:26 3 1
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If you think those things are in any way analogous then you have probably already succumbed to the retraining available in Room 101
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MH
26/02/2021 10:45:54 8 4
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We have many rules for participating in society at many levels -pay your taxes, maintain personal hygiene, behave decently towards other people.
Vaccine passports are just another one of those rules. If you want to go to the pub/get on a plane during covid -get the vaccine. Simple. Your choice (unless of course you haven't been offered - perhaps they should be brought in after everyone is offered
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26/02/2021 10:50:43 7 7
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None of what you list are 'rules of society' since when did you have to show your tax return to enter a pub or supermarket. What absolute utter tosh.
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26/02/2021 10:58:20 3 1
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He never said to get into the pub lol, he said to participate in society, not tosh at all but fact...
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26/02/2021 10:44:49 21 41
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Sorry but by the same logic you have no right to make me take a vaccine that I dont want to
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26/02/2021 10:50:51 17 3
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Your choice, accept the consequences. This isn't any different from other diseases which require vaccination certificates when travelling i.e. polio, yellow fever, etc.