UK car production slumps by a quarter in January
26/02/2021 | news | business | 291
The UK produced 27% fewer cars than a year ago, the worst January figure for over a decade.
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26/02/2021 10:21:25 47 12
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"The number of cars built in the UK fell by 27% last month, the worst January figure for over a decade, as coronavirus shutdowns and post-Brexit border friction hampered production."

Absolutely no mention of supply chain issues caused by global shipping problems, and production suspended at British car plants due to a world shortage of parts like semi-conductors.
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26/02/2021 11:00:47 18 12
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The world shortage of parts is a direct result of Covid - so it was mentioned....
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27/02/2021 13:53:51 0 1
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Car sales are up at least 33% in China, they also very much up in other adjacent Asian countries. Waiting times for delivery of new cars is horrendous in China at the moment, part of the issue of world shortage you maybe have missed is there is a shortage of ships globally. Plus sea freight has increased its costs to UK 10 fold. GB is considered a problem destination this impact on sales
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26/02/2021 10:21:52 60 5
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Hopefully, lockdown may have given people a time re-think new car purchase mostly on finance. This is obviously a bad news for car manufacturers however getting into debt for something which is going to be rarely used is important consideration for many people.
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NP
26/02/2021 11:44:33 36 1
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Not just that, but average car drove 5k less this year, hence that missing mileages will reduce demand for new cars and financial slum as well.

I hope people grow up a bit understand "new plate syndrome" is not helpful for nation or themselves.
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26/02/2021 11:49:05 10 1
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A lot of people have been trapped into rolling over their PCP contracts, because they can't afford the final payment on the last contract car, so have to accept another one. Trapped in a ponzi scheme!
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26/02/2021 15:25:30 7 0
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People happy to spend £300+ per month on a car that they will likely spend on average less than 5% of their day in. Yet when it comes to a bed, something that we spend more like 25-30% of our day in...
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26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
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I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
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26/02/2021 10:37:46 8 31
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Because our Treasury will squeeze you with duty.
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Bob
26/02/2021 10:43:11 18 0
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You don't have to.

And that's what most people do, too.

That's why the amount of cars registered, in a good year, represents a figure that is less than 10% of the amount of licence holders.
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26/02/2021 10:57:00 20 0
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Absolutely sound thinking...
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NP
26/02/2021 11:37:23 13 0
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Absolutely, right thing to do.
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26/02/2021 11:47:33 13 6
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The day of people being impressed with what car you drive is rapidly fading. Most people are more interested in economy than horse power and fancy badges now. And most fancy cars are rubbish and unreliable anyway!
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26/02/2021 12:07:04 6 2
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I cannot think what cars are exactly the same now as they were 10 years ago!? Depends what you want from a car. You obviously do very few miles, so dont really care that much. Plenty do 40k in 2 years and want modern tech.
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26/02/2021 12:07:57 6 0
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There should be some cracking deals on new motors. Make the dealers wince!
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Gio
26/02/2021 14:53:31 0 12
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Has anyone told you to buy a new car, if not, then why are you posting this nonsense?
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26/02/2021 19:08:51 0 1
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Because they haven't got a USB port ! lol
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26/02/2021 19:18:35 3 0
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Who would normally buy all these cars? Oh - No-one of course! They are all in some form of credit line. It all reminds me of when I am on a busy escalator - I can't help but imagine someone at the end falling over rather than dispersing! What carnage - Capitalism has so reached a plateaux now, that the dispersing of product off the "escalator" is becoming a very complicated credit line!!
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26/02/2021 19:45:05 1 1
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"why would I go out and buy a brand new car"

Well if it's an environmental issues everyone would say you shouldn't.

If it's a Brexit issue, people will say you should to support British industry.

The same question will have more than one answer depending on why it's asked
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26/02/2021 22:09:40 3 1
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Because the neighbours will think you are poor.
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26/02/2021 22:12:28 0 1
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Some companies sold more cars across Europe last year than they did in 2019. Unfortunately for Britain it was not the Japanese and Indian cars built in Britain. It was those pesky EU car manufacturers.
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27/02/2021 10:26:39 2 1
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I have two cars, neither built in Britain. The newest is a mere seven years old and has done 30,000 miles, But the second is an amazing Volvo S80, eighteen years old with still the original battery. A luxury diesel saloon car without a catalitic converter or the dreaded DPF. Over 50 mpg? There is one example that has done 740,000 and I can believe it. Why change for something newer??
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27/02/2021 13:59:44 1 0
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Two reasons... newer vehicles are cleaner from CO2 and NOX perspective plus have more safety features as standard. Trouble is the stricter emissions legislation is making newer cars more expensive which puts people off upgrading and keeps older more polluting vehicles on the road for longer...
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27/02/2021 17:18:41 0 0
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My 20 year old car does exactly what is needed of it. It is by some distance more economic to run than most new models averaging over 70 miles to a gallon. There is nothing essential missing from it. The cult of the new car has to end. Millions of nearly new are redundant on forecourts.
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27/02/2021 18:30:53 0 1
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You don’t need two cars
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26/02/2021 10:23:50 54 10
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Fear not, because in 2030, the Government thinks everyone will be able to afford a nice new electric one for £40k+ (on average).

So - problem solved !
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26/02/2021 10:56:30 51 9
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Even if you can afford an electric car you wont be able to charge it fast enough. The infrastructure is not and will not be there for it in time...
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26/02/2021 15:04:11 14 2
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Except that there’ll be loads of people, me included, looking for a low mileage petrol or diesel to last another 10 years and save thousands.
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VoR
26/02/2021 16:03:34 5 0
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There are electric cars on sale for a tenth of that now. Not the most stylish, but they'd probably work for those just using cars for short commutes, trips to the local shops etc.
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26/02/2021 17:01:58 1 0
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By the time those electric vehicles will become mainstream the price will drop sharply in line with what petrol or diesel cars cost these days.
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26/02/2021 20:24:36 3 2
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and what's even funnier is people buyijng electric cars think they will save the planet, when the overall pollution over the life of the car is only 20% less than a petrol one.
Not to mention the massive amounts of rare earth metals used in batteries, mostly produced by China or mines it controls...
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26/02/2021 10:27:59 11 1
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The trade industry body suggested that the ongoing impact of the coronavirus crisis, extended factory shutdowns, global supply chain problems, and friction in the new post-Brexit trading arrangements, had all contributed to the fall.

Exports accounted for more than eight in 10 of all cars made last month.

People may be worried about losing their job come the end of Furlough. Not rocket science.
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26/02/2021 12:10:06 7 16
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Perhaps everyone likes the car they've already got.
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26/02/2021 12:55:41 1 1
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Do you think people at the export destinations aren't similarly concerned about their imminent economic futures?
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26/02/2021 10:28:15 0 3
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Let’s hope the EU won’t object to the UK taxpayer subsidising a large battery company by raising tariffs. If they do it’s looking grim.
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26/02/2021 10:31:25 3 0
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Switching to hydrogen might be the only way out of this mess.
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26/02/2021 10:28:15 0 3
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Let’s hope the EU won’t object to the UK taxpayer subsidising a large battery company by raising tariffs. If they do it’s looking grim.
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26/02/2021 10:31:25 3 0
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Switching to hydrogen might be the only way out of this mess.
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26/02/2021 11:40:40 0 1
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Yes there is plenty of oil and gas to make it from, if we are not using it as fuel.
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26/02/2021 10:33:14 2 8
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ask nissan to buy it... with a massive grant from UK Gov .....
WE KNOW WHO OUR FRIENDS ARE ...
Buy British made....
It could be made into Nissan Hydrogen cars base.. to back clean cars both ways..
IM BUYING STUFF From UK Hands and Friends only ...
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26/02/2021 10:37:39 7 3
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'IM BUYING STUFF From UK Hands and Friends only ...'

Like the PC or mobile device you posted that drivel on? Inevitably made in China, using components shipped from all over the shop?

Give your head a wobble.
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26/02/2021 12:13:43 0 0
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Wow I looked into this it is extremely hard. My Caburys chocolate was made in Poland my Pataks curry paste was made in Poland. The weekly shopping basket is not possible to get 100% British. I did stop buying supermarket meat and moved to a local butcher. When to comes to consumer electronics all made in Europe or far east.
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PS
26/02/2021 10:35:58 2 5
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Tell me something I did not anticipate. Another none newsworthy headline. Yawn!
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26/02/2021 12:10:54 0 16
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Perhaps everyone who needs a car has one already
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26/02/2021 10:33:14 2 8
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ask nissan to buy it... with a massive grant from UK Gov .....
WE KNOW WHO OUR FRIENDS ARE ...
Buy British made....
It could be made into Nissan Hydrogen cars base.. to back clean cars both ways..
IM BUYING STUFF From UK Hands and Friends only ...
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26/02/2021 10:37:39 7 3
bbc
'IM BUYING STUFF From UK Hands and Friends only ...'

Like the PC or mobile device you posted that drivel on? Inevitably made in China, using components shipped from all over the shop?

Give your head a wobble.
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26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
bbc
I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
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26/02/2021 10:37:46 8 31
bbc
Because our Treasury will squeeze you with duty.
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26/02/2021 10:59:21 12 2
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Just offload one as you probably wont need it moving forwards anyway... There are 23 cars in my street and only 3 get used every day for work.. Neighbours are already thinking of ditching a lot of there 2nd and 3rd cars now...
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26/02/2021 10:39:09 7 6
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Headline should have read "UK car production heading in the right direction in January". Every time car manufacture and/or use goes down, is good news.
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26/02/2021 10:53:52 2 2
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Agreed...
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26/02/2021 10:39:22 45 4
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Fewer cars is good for the planet, no?
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26/02/2021 10:53:31 14 10
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Totally agree - Need to divert more investment to create jobs for a greener economy - Now is the time and it is long overdue... If there is anything positive about the pandemic its focusing our attention on the way forward for a low carbon strong economy. Now we need to scrap HS2 and quickly as it will not be used and wont offer any commercial benefit either...
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26/02/2021 11:50:47 3 0
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You're right, however a newer car replacing an old polluting car is better for the environment.
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27/02/2021 23:45:10 0 0
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The government's electric car policy is totally irrelevant for the planet, but it has already cost 10000 jobs with more to come. The only thing that will save the planet is fewer people and this government along with all others plus every 'religion' fails to acknowledge that fact nor do anything about it. Until global population is addressed sadly the climate battle will never be won!
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26/02/2021 10:40:32 11 13
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Good luck on jump-starting the car industry, Quitlings. Half of us are doing three weeks to the gallon at the moment, and I don't see this changing soon. The 'new normal' is going to mean much less driving. If you're a Sunderland dwelling Brexit type? You backed the wrong horse, just like the fishermen down in Cornwall did. Fooled by Farrago and his chums. Bet you feel silly now :)
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26/02/2021 10:50:31 6 0
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I agree with everything stated. Businesses are conducting surveys to see if after restrictions are lifted employees would be happy to return to the Office. Every survey that I have been made aware of would suggest not and this is due to both cost and convenience. This means an awful lot of cars that will not be required moving forwards as well as Offices too... Big changes a foot moving forward...
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26/02/2021 11:53:17 1 0
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I'm stealing the "three weeks to the gallon" line. Brexit isn't the reason for home working though is it?
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26/02/2021 11:58:37 0 0
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Yet you ignore the data that shows Germany, with its far larger automotive production, is similarly 24% down?
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26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
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I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
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Bob
26/02/2021 10:43:11 18 0
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You don't have to.

And that's what most people do, too.

That's why the amount of cars registered, in a good year, represents a figure that is less than 10% of the amount of licence holders.
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26/02/2021 10:43:31 1 0
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Not a surprise. If it is why do people believe it is?
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26/02/2021 11:10:12 2 1
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Nobody does.

The % figure is the point for people interested and capable of analysis.
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26/02/2021 10:47:31 5 6
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what about Vauxhall Luton. Make sure both are secured UK Govt ... pivot to Japanese Friends and Grants if necessary .... and dont just do Battery ... do Hydrogen vehic's.

The new parent might be more Brit friendsly with the US Chrysler aspect but this is by no means assured.
The brands to boycott is they hurt UK workers are
FIAT
CHRYSLER
JEEP
PEUGEOT
CITROEN
ALFA ROMEO
I bought many in the past.
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26/02/2021 12:04:31 2 0
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Vauxhall will be gone from the UK French Gov have a stake in the parent company Stellantis . It is also HQ`ed in Amsterdam. Anyway i am not aware of one good car Vauxhall make now. Last time I drove one it was terrible.
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26/02/2021 10:47:49 9 9
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Global car production is in a slump because of Covid.

There is however ONE way for the UK to address this.

Simply buy more cars produced in the UK than elsewhere.

Imagine how much a boost the economy would get if everyone swapped their Audi/Merc/BMW for a Jaguar/Land Rover/Nissan.

GDP + Skilled Jobs + More money in local economies.

It is not rocket science.
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26/02/2021 10:57:27 6 0
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Would be happy to buy a British built car but Jaguar doesn't make a 5 door saloon ...
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26/02/2021 11:59:17 0 0
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JLR build a lot of cars in Slovakia, BMW build the Mini in the UK
Anyway COO is very hard to define it is not always the country of final assembly.
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26/02/2021 10:40:32 11 13
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Good luck on jump-starting the car industry, Quitlings. Half of us are doing three weeks to the gallon at the moment, and I don't see this changing soon. The 'new normal' is going to mean much less driving. If you're a Sunderland dwelling Brexit type? You backed the wrong horse, just like the fishermen down in Cornwall did. Fooled by Farrago and his chums. Bet you feel silly now :)
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26/02/2021 10:50:31 6 0
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I agree with everything stated. Businesses are conducting surveys to see if after restrictions are lifted employees would be happy to return to the Office. Every survey that I have been made aware of would suggest not and this is due to both cost and convenience. This means an awful lot of cars that will not be required moving forwards as well as Offices too... Big changes a foot moving forward...
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26/02/2021 11:39:33 1 0
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Cars will still be required just not replaced as often.
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26/02/2021 10:39:22 45 4
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Fewer cars is good for the planet, no?
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26/02/2021 10:53:31 14 10
bbc
Totally agree - Need to divert more investment to create jobs for a greener economy - Now is the time and it is long overdue... If there is anything positive about the pandemic its focusing our attention on the way forward for a low carbon strong economy. Now we need to scrap HS2 and quickly as it will not be used and wont offer any commercial benefit either...
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26/02/2021 16:57:01 3 1
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You need to do some serious research about both CO2 and green economy...just take a look at how effective it is in California and Texas, with rolling blackouts...
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26/02/2021 10:39:09 7 6
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Headline should have read "UK car production heading in the right direction in January". Every time car manufacture and/or use goes down, is good news.
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26/02/2021 10:53:52 2 2
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Agreed...
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26/02/2021 10:54:21 9 10
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Back to the days of Mrs Thatcher... industry ruined and mass unemployment.
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26/02/2021 10:55:34 18 9
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I think you'll find that was down to the unions striking every 5 minutes.
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26/02/2021 11:11:49 4 2
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How many of these industries did Labour reopen?
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26/02/2021 11:41:49 4 1
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I think you'll find she got this country thriving again after Labour had messed things up as usual.
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26/02/2021 10:54:21 9 10
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Back to the days of Mrs Thatcher... industry ruined and mass unemployment.
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26/02/2021 10:55:34 18 9
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I think you'll find that was down to the unions striking every 5 minutes.
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26/02/2021 11:02:57 6 1
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Certainly didn't help - along with deliberately churning out sub standard products with faults built in, such as rattles in new cars etc.

The unions then were too powerful but it was that very power that set the collision course with the Thatcher government.

Unfortunately, over the intervening 40 years the pendulum has swung too far the other way.
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MVS
26/02/2021 11:46:40 2 1
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Indeed James. But we no longer expect historical accuracy from most who post on here.
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26/02/2021 10:23:50 54 10
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Fear not, because in 2030, the Government thinks everyone will be able to afford a nice new electric one for £40k+ (on average).

So - problem solved !
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26/02/2021 10:56:30 51 9
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Even if you can afford an electric car you wont be able to charge it fast enough. The infrastructure is not and will not be there for it in time...
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26/02/2021 11:41:26 7 7
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And if you can its battery will burst into flames.
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26/02/2021 15:06:17 5 5
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True, it just in charging points either, the electricity grid wouldn’t be able to cope. How much new “green energy” is being installed? I don’t know but doubt it will match the forecasted demand if most folks went electric.
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VoR
26/02/2021 16:05:57 9 0
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Not really true. Most can be charged enough at home with a bit of kit, and have enough range to cover normal use. It's only for the long haul trips that the infrastructure becomes inadequate. And if electric ownership picked up enough (because it covers normal use) then the infrastructure probably will too.

Downside is that as petrol sales fall, we'll get taxed more on the electricity.
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26/02/2021 18:25:51 3 1
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erm... 32amp wire from fuse box? 7kw only but overnight it would do for most daily commutes. Agree 40k for a car is bonkers though.
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26/02/2021 18:53:47 3 1
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Don’t you have electricity at your house?!! A normal socket is just fine. Plugs in just like your iPhone and charges whilst you sleep.
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26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
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I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
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26/02/2021 10:57:00 20 0
bbc
Absolutely sound thinking...
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26/02/2021 10:47:49 9 9
bbc
Global car production is in a slump because of Covid.

There is however ONE way for the UK to address this.

Simply buy more cars produced in the UK than elsewhere.

Imagine how much a boost the economy would get if everyone swapped their Audi/Merc/BMW for a Jaguar/Land Rover/Nissan.

GDP + Skilled Jobs + More money in local economies.

It is not rocket science.
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26/02/2021 10:57:27 6 0
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Would be happy to buy a British built car but Jaguar doesn't make a 5 door saloon ...
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26/02/2021 11:38:23 2 1
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And Nissan offer the juke looks disgusting.
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26/02/2021 11:54:39 0 0
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5 door saloon ? do you mean 5 door hatch ? The have a nice electric one but it is pricey
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26/02/2021 10:37:46 8 31
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Because our Treasury will squeeze you with duty.
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26/02/2021 10:59:21 12 2
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Just offload one as you probably wont need it moving forwards anyway... There are 23 cars in my street and only 3 get used every day for work.. Neighbours are already thinking of ditching a lot of there 2nd and 3rd cars now...
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26/02/2021 10:21:25 47 12
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"The number of cars built in the UK fell by 27% last month, the worst January figure for over a decade, as coronavirus shutdowns and post-Brexit border friction hampered production."

Absolutely no mention of supply chain issues caused by global shipping problems, and production suspended at British car plants due to a world shortage of parts like semi-conductors.
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26/02/2021 11:00:47 18 12
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The world shortage of parts is a direct result of Covid - so it was mentioned....
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26/02/2021 12:59:12 2 2
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Can you get any more tenuous??
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27/02/2021 15:20:51 0 0
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The world shortage of Chips is also due to a drought in Taiwan, it has caused chip production to drop - not something that appears to have come to the BBC's attention.
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26/02/2021 10:55:34 18 9
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I think you'll find that was down to the unions striking every 5 minutes.
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26/02/2021 11:02:57 6 1
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Certainly didn't help - along with deliberately churning out sub standard products with faults built in, such as rattles in new cars etc.

The unions then were too powerful but it was that very power that set the collision course with the Thatcher government.

Unfortunately, over the intervening 40 years the pendulum has swung too far the other way.
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26/02/2021 11:03:24 59 9
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Shouldn’t it be ‘worldwide car production slumps’?

We are not the only place in the world seeing the economic affects of covid.
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26/02/2021 11:09:21 22 37
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But we are mainly interested in the UK for which these figures are available.

2020 global drop was 20% so UK seems worse affected.
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27/02/2021 13:44:31 0 0
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The waiting times for delivery of new cars in China has been getting much longer. Perhaps an article that addresses the drop in quality of British made cars would be more relevant? There is very little demand for British cars in Europe there thought of being a problem Brexit(?)
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26/02/2021 10:54:21 9 10
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Back to the days of Mrs Thatcher... industry ruined and mass unemployment.
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26/02/2021 11:11:49 4 2
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How many of these industries did Labour reopen?
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26/02/2021 10:55:52 3 8
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UK Car production? All the UK does is assemble cars for foreign companies. Not a problem for me if they cut production.
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26/02/2021 11:53:20 4 1
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What about a problem for the workers at the plant or the corp tax paid by the manufacturers in the UK?
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26/02/2021 10:57:37 3 12
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Most people do not need to own a private car. Such ownership is incredibly bad for both the local environment and the planet.

I view every drop in car manufacture and sales as a really good thing.
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26/02/2021 11:31:36 1 3
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Most journey's are so pitifully short I wish people would/could walk or cycle more to make these.
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26/02/2021 11:05:23 21 9
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Massive slump in sales world wide....which is good. It will hurt the UK much less than say Japan, Korea, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and the USA
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27/02/2021 13:29:25 4 0
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Why is that good?
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26/02/2021 11:18:35 16 4
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Perhaps the most positive consequence of the pandemic is that our planet can breathe the cleanest air in decades

The second most positive consequence has been to free up the police, ambulance service, A&E Departments & the Courts of alcohol related violence/injury cases in every city/town centre practically every night of the week
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26/02/2021 11:03:24 59 9
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Shouldn’t it be ‘worldwide car production slumps’?

We are not the only place in the world seeing the economic affects of covid.
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26/02/2021 11:09:21 22 37
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But we are mainly interested in the UK for which these figures are available.

2020 global drop was 20% so UK seems worse affected.
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26/02/2021 16:19:28 3 1
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"2020 global drop was 20% so UK seems worse affected."

Or better placed to adapt and absorb global shifts in user habits. Both arguments are valid
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27/02/2021 15:17:59 0 0
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We make smarter cars, chip production (see Taiwan's drought & effect on chip producers) is a big issue currently
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26/02/2021 11:09:44 23 2
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Hmmm a comparison from last year to pre-lockdown vs this year in full lockdown.......invaluable.

So - if we get back to normal production levels (and I accept that's a big if due to non-covid factors) - we can look forward to the blazing headline in 12 months that:

"UK car production jumps 37% in January"

....seeing as delivering 118k cars next Jan vs 86k this year would be a 37% jump.
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26/02/2021 11:52:11 41 26
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Not from the Beeb you wouldn't - it's become a wing of the Guardian and anything that indicates British success is to be ignored or talked down.
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26/02/2021 18:40:23 2 2
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"Normal" production levels??

You need to read up on Patrick Minford's plan for the UK's future. You remember him - the guy who said Brexit would be sunshine and roses? He also said that it would mean the end of UK manufacturing.

So given that both pro and anti-Brexit economists all agree that Brexit means the end of the car industry here - why on earth do you believe the opposite?
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26/02/2021 10:43:31 1 0
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Not a surprise. If it is why do people believe it is?
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26/02/2021 11:10:12 2 1
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Nobody does.

The % figure is the point for people interested and capable of analysis.
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26/02/2021 11:11:00 7 11
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UK slump is far worse than the global average of 20%.
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26/02/2021 11:20:12 26 23
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yet again the bbc try to put this partially on the doorstep of brexit they are so biased they even want to ignore the fact it is happening all around the world as that would show their brexit lies for what they are biased lies
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26/02/2021 11:43:02 16 11
bbc
It says "as coronavirus shutdowns and post-Brexit border friction hampered production".....so they are clearly saying that Covid is an issue as well, even giving it top billing.
Perhaps your comment is because you don't want to accept that your vote to leave is causing all sorts of problems (which you were warned about), people will lose their jobs, but you'd rather not accept your responsibility
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26/02/2021 11:48:26 8 3
bbc
You've got the BBC mixed up with the leave campaign it seems. Have a read of the Mail, Express or Telegraph if you want bias lies. For those lucky enough to have a good education, it's very clear the BBC is mainly impartial.
110
26/02/2021 13:32:32 3 0
bbc
It may be all around the world, but we're told we're world leaders - a cut above the rest.
41
26/02/2021 11:30:14 0 4
bbc
and will continue to get worse as we are making old style internal combustion engine cars rather than compelling EV`s like Tesla is doing. Plus all these car makers are saddled with dealerships, slimy sales guys and a business model of you coming back each year for a rip off service plus parts. Blockbusters, Kodak, Nokia moment fast approaching....
33
26/02/2021 10:57:37 3 12
bbc
Most people do not need to own a private car. Such ownership is incredibly bad for both the local environment and the planet.

I view every drop in car manufacture and sales as a really good thing.
42
26/02/2021 11:31:36 1 3
bbc
Most journey's are so pitifully short I wish people would/could walk or cycle more to make these.
45
26/02/2021 11:37:02 1 0
bbc
I wish my commute was short enough to walk and cycle.
43
26/02/2021 11:32:45 6 4
bbc
Only the over-paid can afford new cars especially the electric ones.
62
26/02/2021 11:50:06 2 3
bbc
Tesla M3 starts at 40K. Same at BMW 3 series, A4 or Merc C Class. plus taking into account cheap as chips fuel, no fixed servicing and fast and fun! Little bit of "mans maths" and very affordable. Plus imagine what will happen when Tesla brings out the $25K EV..... Game over
63
26/02/2021 11:50:26 3 0
bbc
You mean "the successful" right?
44
26/02/2021 11:36:30 10 10
bbc
The outlook is pretty bleak for the industry. Foreign makers see that their biggest market is in the European Union.
Brexit will strangle our home-based industry.
Our Leave chums were warned but they didn’t listen.
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26/02/2021 11:44:19 4 2
bbc
Biggest market is in China, but they are making clones of European cars cheaper. UK Market was biggest one in Europe.
42
26/02/2021 11:31:36 1 3
bbc
Most journey's are so pitifully short I wish people would/could walk or cycle more to make these.
45
26/02/2021 11:37:02 1 0
bbc
I wish my commute was short enough to walk and cycle.
60
26/02/2021 11:49:31 1 0
bbc
My commute dropped to 20 paces from the Kitchen to the study. Mileage has dropped from around 12k a year To 1.7k from Feb 2020 to Feb 2021. I bet most of that was the fortnightly runs just to keep the battery charged and get things up to temperature. No new car needed for me not for a long while.
3
26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
bbc
I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
46
NP
26/02/2021 11:37:23 13 0
bbc
Absolutely, right thing to do.
26
26/02/2021 10:57:27 6 0
bbc
Would be happy to buy a British built car but Jaguar doesn't make a 5 door saloon ...
47
26/02/2021 11:38:23 2 1
bbc
And Nissan offer the juke looks disgusting.
19
26/02/2021 10:50:31 6 0
bbc
I agree with everything stated. Businesses are conducting surveys to see if after restrictions are lifted employees would be happy to return to the Office. Every survey that I have been made aware of would suggest not and this is due to both cost and convenience. This means an awful lot of cars that will not be required moving forwards as well as Offices too... Big changes a foot moving forward...
48
26/02/2021 11:39:33 1 0
bbc
Cars will still be required just not replaced as often.
7
26/02/2021 10:31:25 3 0
bbc
Switching to hydrogen might be the only way out of this mess.
49
26/02/2021 11:40:40 0 1
bbc
Yes there is plenty of oil and gas to make it from, if we are not using it as fuel.
24
26/02/2021 10:56:30 51 9
bbc
Even if you can afford an electric car you wont be able to charge it fast enough. The infrastructure is not and will not be there for it in time...
50
26/02/2021 11:41:26 7 7
bbc
And if you can its battery will burst into flames.
22
26/02/2021 10:54:21 9 10
bbc
Back to the days of Mrs Thatcher... industry ruined and mass unemployment.
51
26/02/2021 11:41:49 4 1
bbc
I think you'll find she got this country thriving again after Labour had messed things up as usual.
40
26/02/2021 11:20:12 26 23
bbc
yet again the bbc try to put this partially on the doorstep of brexit they are so biased they even want to ignore the fact it is happening all around the world as that would show their brexit lies for what they are biased lies
52
26/02/2021 11:43:02 16 11
bbc
It says "as coronavirus shutdowns and post-Brexit border friction hampered production".....so they are clearly saying that Covid is an issue as well, even giving it top billing.
Perhaps your comment is because you don't want to accept that your vote to leave is causing all sorts of problems (which you were warned about), people will lose their jobs, but you'd rather not accept your responsibility
53
MVS
26/02/2021 11:43:45 50 9
bbc
It would be a useful piece of good journalism to provide some comparative analysis with figures from other car manufacturing countries around the World.

Context is all part of balance and impartiality!
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26/02/2021 12:36:19 21 3
bbc
that would mean more complete information though
44
26/02/2021 11:36:30 10 10
bbc
The outlook is pretty bleak for the industry. Foreign makers see that their biggest market is in the European Union.
Brexit will strangle our home-based industry.
Our Leave chums were warned but they didn’t listen.
54
26/02/2021 11:44:19 4 2
bbc
Biggest market is in China, but they are making clones of European cars cheaper. UK Market was biggest one in Europe.
2
26/02/2021 10:21:52 60 5
bbc
Hopefully, lockdown may have given people a time re-think new car purchase mostly on finance. This is obviously a bad news for car manufacturers however getting into debt for something which is going to be rarely used is important consideration for many people.
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NP
26/02/2021 11:44:33 36 1
bbc
Not just that, but average car drove 5k less this year, hence that missing mileages will reduce demand for new cars and financial slum as well.

I hope people grow up a bit understand "new plate syndrome" is not helpful for nation or themselves.
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VoR
26/02/2021 16:02:36 7 0
bbc
It's probably not just a temporary effect either. My business has found that having everyone work from home didn't impair productivity, and is happy for some people to work from home some of the time, and others all of the time. In my case, that means my household doesn't need 2 cars any more. I will no longer be buying the new car I had intended to, even though I am still selling my old car.
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26/02/2021 11:46:38 43 5
bbc
Cars registrations fall 2020

UK - 29% - www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55551315

EU - 24% - www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/business-daily/20210119-new-car-sales-plummet-by-24-across-the-european-union-in-2020

"Figures from the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association show a 24 percent plunge last year, with bigger drops in Spain, Italy and France."

I'd guess that puts them about on par with UK
159
26/02/2021 17:30:35 11 4
bbc
i am sure a 24% drop in Europe is alot more cars then the 29% in the UK!
192
26/02/2021 20:23:44 2 0
bbc
There's a 20% difference between 24% and 29%.
23
26/02/2021 10:55:34 18 9
bbc
I think you'll find that was down to the unions striking every 5 minutes.
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MVS
26/02/2021 11:46:40 2 1
bbc
Indeed James. But we no longer expect historical accuracy from most who post on here.
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26/02/2021 11:47:19 8 3
bbc
who in there right mind is going to buy a fossil fuel car.
the government is bringing a clean air tax in the whole of the uk in 2023.
there is no infrastructure for eclectic cars, power cuts unless the main sub cables are upgraded.
what will replace the vehicle excise tax, double car tax, fuel on petrol diesel and oil plus vat .
loss in car production tax related £700 billion over 3 years
40
26/02/2021 11:20:12 26 23
bbc
yet again the bbc try to put this partially on the doorstep of brexit they are so biased they even want to ignore the fact it is happening all around the world as that would show their brexit lies for what they are biased lies
59
26/02/2021 11:48:26 8 3
bbc
You've got the BBC mixed up with the leave campaign it seems. Have a read of the Mail, Express or Telegraph if you want bias lies. For those lucky enough to have a good education, it's very clear the BBC is mainly impartial.
45
26/02/2021 11:37:02 1 0
bbc
I wish my commute was short enough to walk and cycle.
60
26/02/2021 11:49:31 1 0
bbc
My commute dropped to 20 paces from the Kitchen to the study. Mileage has dropped from around 12k a year To 1.7k from Feb 2020 to Feb 2021. I bet most of that was the fortnightly runs just to keep the battery charged and get things up to temperature. No new car needed for me not for a long while.
61
26/02/2021 11:49:47 22 2
bbc
What I want to know is why does a Tesla Model 3 costs $30,000 in China and £50,000 in the UK?
68
26/02/2021 11:52:42 4 1
bbc
40K. Have a look at teslas website....
87
26/02/2021 12:12:29 5 3
bbc
Who are these people want to pay £40-50,000 for a Tesla in fact any EV in that price range, anyone who pays that for an EV is doing it for prestige as how do they know it's Green Energy they're using to charge with. Now a car in this price rage makes sence: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
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27/02/2021 20:52:56 0 0
bbc
Because people might just be fool enough to pay it.
43
26/02/2021 11:32:45 6 4
bbc
Only the over-paid can afford new cars especially the electric ones.
62
26/02/2021 11:50:06 2 3
bbc
Tesla M3 starts at 40K. Same at BMW 3 series, A4 or Merc C Class. plus taking into account cheap as chips fuel, no fixed servicing and fast and fun! Little bit of "mans maths" and very affordable. Plus imagine what will happen when Tesla brings out the $25K EV..... Game over
43
26/02/2021 11:32:45 6 4
bbc
Only the over-paid can afford new cars especially the electric ones.
63
26/02/2021 11:50:26 3 0
bbc
You mean "the successful" right?
13
26/02/2021 10:39:22 45 4
bbc
Fewer cars is good for the planet, no?
64
26/02/2021 11:50:47 3 0
bbc
You're right, however a newer car replacing an old polluting car is better for the environment.
119
26/02/2021 14:12:06 5 1
bbc
not necessarily overall when you factor in the environmental cost to make the new car, especially all those nasty battery chemical mining operations! Definitely better for the localised environment though.
65
26/02/2021 11:50:58 10 2
bbc
Businesses are not buying cars. Individuals are waiting.
Electric cars are nowhere near a finished product. Charge controllers are still being developed to cope with new chargers.
The charging infrastructure is still patchy and can be expensive.
There is no universal way of accessing chargers. Cash gets petrol. Charges need membership of that group to use their chargers.
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vk
26/02/2021 15:31:59 8 2
bbc
My electric car is certainly a finished product! The universal way to charge is a normal plug, you might've seen them in your house as that's where most EVs get charged. You can get a fancy wall plug, it's like wiring an electric shower and any electrician can do it.

Public charging is a very confusing mess.
66
26/02/2021 11:52:09 8 4
bbc
Why does a lockdown brit need a car, what for?

lol
128
26/02/2021 15:05:25 6 0
bbc
To go to work for those of us that can't work from home !!
37
26/02/2021 11:09:44 23 2
bbc
Hmmm a comparison from last year to pre-lockdown vs this year in full lockdown.......invaluable.

So - if we get back to normal production levels (and I accept that's a big if due to non-covid factors) - we can look forward to the blazing headline in 12 months that:

"UK car production jumps 37% in January"

....seeing as delivering 118k cars next Jan vs 86k this year would be a 37% jump.
67
26/02/2021 11:52:11 41 26
bbc
Not from the Beeb you wouldn't - it's become a wing of the Guardian and anything that indicates British success is to be ignored or talked down.
61
26/02/2021 11:49:47 22 2
bbc
What I want to know is why does a Tesla Model 3 costs $30,000 in China and £50,000 in the UK?
68
26/02/2021 11:52:42 4 1
bbc
40K. Have a look at teslas website....
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Gaz
26/02/2021 19:50:59 0 5
bbc
Tesla equals shit build.
3
26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
bbc
I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
69
26/02/2021 11:47:33 13 6
bbc
The day of people being impressed with what car you drive is rapidly fading. Most people are more interested in economy than horse power and fancy badges now. And most fancy cars are rubbish and unreliable anyway!
2
26/02/2021 10:21:52 60 5
bbc
Hopefully, lockdown may have given people a time re-think new car purchase mostly on finance. This is obviously a bad news for car manufacturers however getting into debt for something which is going to be rarely used is important consideration for many people.
70
26/02/2021 11:49:05 10 1
bbc
A lot of people have been trapped into rolling over their PCP contracts, because they can't afford the final payment on the last contract car, so have to accept another one. Trapped in a ponzi scheme!
117
26/02/2021 14:05:22 10 0
bbc
True, but if you're struggling then the sensible choice is to lose the "gotta have shiny & new" blinkers, let the car go back, and go buy older with a small (non-PCP loan) or savings. Otherwise like you say, you're trapped. I keep my cars for 10 years or so, always buy nearly new rather than new, and use the 10 years to save up for the next one to pay in cash.
14
26/02/2021 10:40:32 11 13
bbc
Good luck on jump-starting the car industry, Quitlings. Half of us are doing three weeks to the gallon at the moment, and I don't see this changing soon. The 'new normal' is going to mean much less driving. If you're a Sunderland dwelling Brexit type? You backed the wrong horse, just like the fishermen down in Cornwall did. Fooled by Farrago and his chums. Bet you feel silly now :)
71
26/02/2021 11:53:17 1 0
bbc
I'm stealing the "three weeks to the gallon" line. Brexit isn't the reason for home working though is it?
32
26/02/2021 10:55:52 3 8
bbc
UK Car production? All the UK does is assemble cars for foreign companies. Not a problem for me if they cut production.
72
26/02/2021 11:53:20 4 1
bbc
What about a problem for the workers at the plant or the corp tax paid by the manufacturers in the UK?
136
26/02/2021 15:37:36 0 0
bbc
UK assemblers of foreign cars won't pay any corporation tax, all the profit will go to the foreign parent via "management" charges. The workers will just have to get another job.....just like the coal miners did.
26
26/02/2021 10:57:27 6 0
bbc
Would be happy to buy a British built car but Jaguar doesn't make a 5 door saloon ...
73
26/02/2021 11:54:39 0 0
bbc
5 door saloon ? do you mean 5 door hatch ? The have a nice electric one but it is pricey
74
26/02/2021 11:57:17 12 2
bbc
Offer a great scrappage scheme - for old cars,
Reduce the million pound production of TV ads and Tv advertising divert the money to customers - like free Insurance and breakdown.
196
26/02/2021 20:29:03 2 0
bbc
Reducing the cost of the car in the first place would be a better offer.
14
26/02/2021 10:40:32 11 13
bbc
Good luck on jump-starting the car industry, Quitlings. Half of us are doing three weeks to the gallon at the moment, and I don't see this changing soon. The 'new normal' is going to mean much less driving. If you're a Sunderland dwelling Brexit type? You backed the wrong horse, just like the fishermen down in Cornwall did. Fooled by Farrago and his chums. Bet you feel silly now :)
75
26/02/2021 11:58:37 0 0
bbc
Yet you ignore the data that shows Germany, with its far larger automotive production, is similarly 24% down?
18
26/02/2021 10:47:49 9 9
bbc
Global car production is in a slump because of Covid.

There is however ONE way for the UK to address this.

Simply buy more cars produced in the UK than elsewhere.

Imagine how much a boost the economy would get if everyone swapped their Audi/Merc/BMW for a Jaguar/Land Rover/Nissan.

GDP + Skilled Jobs + More money in local economies.

It is not rocket science.
76
26/02/2021 11:59:17 0 0
bbc
JLR build a lot of cars in Slovakia, BMW build the Mini in the UK
Anyway COO is very hard to define it is not always the country of final assembly.
17
26/02/2021 10:47:31 5 6
bbc
what about Vauxhall Luton. Make sure both are secured UK Govt ... pivot to Japanese Friends and Grants if necessary .... and dont just do Battery ... do Hydrogen vehic's.

The new parent might be more Brit friendsly with the US Chrysler aspect but this is by no means assured.
The brands to boycott is they hurt UK workers are
FIAT
CHRYSLER
JEEP
PEUGEOT
CITROEN
ALFA ROMEO
I bought many in the past.
77
26/02/2021 12:04:31 2 0
bbc
Vauxhall will be gone from the UK French Gov have a stake in the parent company Stellantis . It is also HQ`ed in Amsterdam. Anyway i am not aware of one good car Vauxhall make now. Last time I drove one it was terrible.
78
26/02/2021 12:05:36 3 1
bbc
So, faced with changing my BMW diesel soon. Electric no good as either too expensive, too rubbish or too compromised on charging/range. Buy another diesel but uncertainty what Govt will do re taxation & long term value issues. Only solution is keep indefinitely or lease on short term deal can quickly get away from.
95
26/02/2021 12:27:16 2 1
bbc
Check Tesla out. Same price as a BMW plus has working indicators!
100
26/02/2021 12:35:55 0 1
bbc
"John The Wise One" Well John for price of your average BMW you could have 4 of these EV's (see link below) they maybe don't go far but you could maybe park them on your route and drive to each one, leave on charge and change cars problem solved??
"Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
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NRB
26/02/2021 12:06:41 6 9
bbc
Given the Brexit shambles not really a surprise - looks like the Brexiteers need to be brought into a court of law at some point as the economic damage to the UK is going to be eye watering at the same time we are dealing with a pandemic
3
26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
bbc
I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
80
26/02/2021 12:07:04 6 2
bbc
I cannot think what cars are exactly the same now as they were 10 years ago!? Depends what you want from a car. You obviously do very few miles, so dont really care that much. Plenty do 40k in 2 years and want modern tech.
96
26/02/2021 12:25:19 14 0
bbc
Perhaps the poster drives Morgans!
3
26/02/2021 10:22:22 115 5
bbc
I've two cars, both 10 years old, both with less than 40k miles on them. And the current versions of those two cars look exactly the same as they did 10 years ago.

They are both paid for, so why would I go out and buy a brand new car when there's nothing at all wrong with either of them ?
81
26/02/2021 12:07:57 6 0
bbc
There should be some cracking deals on new motors. Make the dealers wince!
82
26/02/2021 12:08:46 1 0
bbc
it is my belief that most car makers all have a set price and that is why they are now too high.
92
26/02/2021 12:24:12 1 3
bbc
What about a car in this price rage: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
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MVS
26/02/2021 12:09:53 3 5
bbc
Meanwhile relaxing state subsidy rules, protectionism, strategic insourcing of parts for key industries are all being debated as ways the EU can further is protectionist policies.

Isn't this the organisation that claims to be so in love with the whole idea of open global trading rules and who were so concerned about the UK being made to play on its so-called level playing field?
5
26/02/2021 10:27:59 11 1
bbc
The trade industry body suggested that the ongoing impact of the coronavirus crisis, extended factory shutdowns, global supply chain problems, and friction in the new post-Brexit trading arrangements, had all contributed to the fall.

Exports accounted for more than eight in 10 of all cars made last month.

People may be worried about losing their job come the end of Furlough. Not rocket science.
84
26/02/2021 12:10:06 7 16
bbc
Perhaps everyone likes the car they've already got.
9
PS
26/02/2021 10:35:58 2 5
bbc
Tell me something I did not anticipate. Another none newsworthy headline. Yawn!
85
26/02/2021 12:10:54 0 16
bbc
Perhaps everyone who needs a car has one already
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26/02/2021 12:11:24 4 4
bbc
It's the 17th month of a decline in output

I suspect this has nothing to do with actual Brexit deal admin - which was a shambles lets be clear

And more to do with the real long term economics that the UK is just too expensive a place (like all of Western Europe) to make commodity products

Driving has not been a pleasure for 20 years and the young are shunning it

Live in cities - get the bus
61
26/02/2021 11:49:47 22 2
bbc
What I want to know is why does a Tesla Model 3 costs $30,000 in China and £50,000 in the UK?
87
26/02/2021 12:12:29 5 3
bbc
Who are these people want to pay £40-50,000 for a Tesla in fact any EV in that price range, anyone who pays that for an EV is doing it for prestige as how do they know it's Green Energy they're using to charge with. Now a car in this price rage makes sence: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
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vk
26/02/2021 15:34:51 4 1
bbc
The same people who've always bought cars in that price range for the past few decades, there will always be a market for all price ranges.
194
26/02/2021 20:26:42 0 0
bbc
Chalk & Chesse come to mind.
8
26/02/2021 10:33:14 2 8
bbc
ask nissan to buy it... with a massive grant from UK Gov .....
WE KNOW WHO OUR FRIENDS ARE ...
Buy British made....
It could be made into Nissan Hydrogen cars base.. to back clean cars both ways..
IM BUYING STUFF From UK Hands and Friends only ...
88
26/02/2021 12:13:43 0 0
bbc
Wow I looked into this it is extremely hard. My Caburys chocolate was made in Poland my Pataks curry paste was made in Poland. The weekly shopping basket is not possible to get 100% British. I did stop buying supermarket meat and moved to a local butcher. When to comes to consumer electronics all made in Europe or far east.
89
26/02/2021 12:18:10 5 1
bbc
"which car do you buy". The government sets a target in near future to ban all diesel/petrol - fair enough, but this causes second thoughts now; it's too early to buy electric for anything other than around town/city driving for which they work really well. But the infrastructure isn't there today to charge and for long distance currently they just don't work - I've tried - 5 hrs for 3 hr journey.
90
26/02/2021 12:19:34 3 3
bbc
Manufacturers and buyers dithering whether to manufacture or buy, wonder why, £40-50,000 for a Tesla in fact any EV in that price range, anyone who pays that for an EV is doing it for prestige as how do they know it's Green Energy they're using to charge with. Now a car in this price rage makes sence: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
91
26/02/2021 12:21:59 5 1
bbc
I reckon theres a potentially huge market for a basic car for around £6k.....I'd certainly give that some serious thought.
93
26/02/2021 12:26:08 2 0
bbc
100% green energy. With Octopus. Great company.
90
26/02/2021 12:19:34 3 3
bbc
Manufacturers and buyers dithering whether to manufacture or buy, wonder why, £40-50,000 for a Tesla in fact any EV in that price range, anyone who pays that for an EV is doing it for prestige as how do they know it's Green Energy they're using to charge with. Now a car in this price rage makes sence: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
91
26/02/2021 12:21:59 5 1
bbc
I reckon theres a potentially huge market for a basic car for around £6k.....I'd certainly give that some serious thought.
203
26/02/2021 20:54:02 0 0
bbc
Try a 5 year old Ford Fiesta ????.... I do like a good Ford. Or look for a non turbocharged Toyota petrol non hybrid- change oil and filter regularly and if you’ve bought a good one will last ages
82
26/02/2021 12:08:46 1 0
bbc
it is my belief that most car makers all have a set price and that is why they are now too high.
92
26/02/2021 12:24:12 1 3
bbc
What about a car in this price rage: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
145
26/02/2021 16:36:33 0 0
bbc
We want British build cars, not Chinese. Why do you want to make the CCP richer? One day they'll swamp the Earth.
236
27/02/2021 09:24:36 0 0
bbc
and by the time it gets to Britain it will be £12000 Remember how European countries such as IKEA an BMW referred to GB as Treasure Island China are going to do the same
90
26/02/2021 12:19:34 3 3
bbc
Manufacturers and buyers dithering whether to manufacture or buy, wonder why, £40-50,000 for a Tesla in fact any EV in that price range, anyone who pays that for an EV is doing it for prestige as how do they know it's Green Energy they're using to charge with. Now a car in this price rage makes sence: "Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
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26/02/2021 12:26:08 2 0
bbc
100% green energy. With Octopus. Great company.
231
27/02/2021 08:49:20 0 0
bbc
I’ve gone over to them, not because of green energy as that’s a joke claim, migrated to them because anyone better than SSE
232
27/02/2021 08:53:26 0 0
bbc
Buy the simplest petrol car something you can repair with a spanner and hammer, do most thing like change break pads yourself, so you can keep on the road for as long as you want, really means buying something made over 30 years ago, don’t buy fuel injected computer controlled, anything built in last 20 years too complicated to repair in the shed, if you have the land build an inspection pit.
94
26/02/2021 12:26:28 3 5
bbc
Come on BBC, give us some perspective. How fewer cars were manufactured in other countries??? People are not buying cars anywhere in numbers while they await the mysteries of a post Covid economy...
98
26/02/2021 12:34:23 2 4
bbc
Exactly - hardly a news item that has any significance - an 8 year old could have come up with this. Of course people are not buying a car at the moment - we can't and are not allowed to travel unnecessarily - and other cities like Bath and Birmingham (many more to follow) are introducing the Congestion Charge - or for those using Park and Rides' will face higher fares.
78
26/02/2021 12:05:36 3 1
bbc
So, faced with changing my BMW diesel soon. Electric no good as either too expensive, too rubbish or too compromised on charging/range. Buy another diesel but uncertainty what Govt will do re taxation & long term value issues. Only solution is keep indefinitely or lease on short term deal can quickly get away from.
95
26/02/2021 12:27:16 2 1
bbc
Check Tesla out. Same price as a BMW plus has working indicators!
80
26/02/2021 12:07:04 6 2
bbc
I cannot think what cars are exactly the same now as they were 10 years ago!? Depends what you want from a car. You obviously do very few miles, so dont really care that much. Plenty do 40k in 2 years and want modern tech.
96
26/02/2021 12:25:19 14 0
bbc
Perhaps the poster drives Morgans!
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27/02/2021 16:50:58 0 0
bbc
Morgan's are both a good investment as they tend to appreciate in value if well maintained, and great fun to drive. Mine is a 1980 model and still going!
97
26/02/2021 12:32:06 3 4
bbc
I guess pubs had their worse january too in recorded history ! Give us some real news like how you you want to charge the over 75s a TV license & then show them stuff they saw in their 20's or issue headline news like this that car production was down in January. Yawn !!!
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26/02/2021 12:36:08 2 4
bbc
Exactly - a non appropriate newsy item. As you state, many other industries have/are suffering - lets read more about that?
94
26/02/2021 12:26:28 3 5
bbc
Come on BBC, give us some perspective. How fewer cars were manufactured in other countries??? People are not buying cars anywhere in numbers while they await the mysteries of a post Covid economy...
98
26/02/2021 12:34:23 2 4
bbc
Exactly - hardly a news item that has any significance - an 8 year old could have come up with this. Of course people are not buying a car at the moment - we can't and are not allowed to travel unnecessarily - and other cities like Bath and Birmingham (many more to follow) are introducing the Congestion Charge - or for those using Park and Rides' will face higher fares.
99
26/02/2021 12:34:48 6 3
bbc
some people who have an interest in the environment might consider this is good news.
78
26/02/2021 12:05:36 3 1
bbc
So, faced with changing my BMW diesel soon. Electric no good as either too expensive, too rubbish or too compromised on charging/range. Buy another diesel but uncertainty what Govt will do re taxation & long term value issues. Only solution is keep indefinitely or lease on short term deal can quickly get away from.
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26/02/2021 12:35:55 0 1
bbc
"John The Wise One" Well John for price of your average BMW you could have 4 of these EV's (see link below) they maybe don't go far but you could maybe park them on your route and drive to each one, leave on charge and change cars problem solved??
"Chinese £3,200 budget electric car takes on Tesla"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802